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Speaker 1: Question, Yes, is using someone's death to further a political

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Speaker 1: agenda any less gross than the people who are celebrating

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Speaker 1: someone's death. That's the question I want you to ponder.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a Casey show. I'm rob Casey's here.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a second, but first

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Speaker 1: before we do that, we want to kind of get

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Speaker 1: everybody up to date. There were so many moving parts

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Speaker 1: over the weekend stuff that was coming out, and just

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Speaker 1: in case you haven't been paying attention, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: get you kind of up to date on where we

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Speaker 1: are in regards to the capture of the alleged assassin

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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: We've kind of.

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Speaker 1: Learned about him and you know some of the interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, details that are that are really beginning to emerge.

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Speaker 2: M So you've got Tyler Robinson who's being reported that

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Speaker 2: he is not cooperating with the investigation. However, his roommate is.

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Speaker 1: So that is the alleged shooter. We will say his

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Speaker 1: name that one time. We will not say it again

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Speaker 1: the rest of our program today. We just wanted to

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Speaker 1: set up who we were talking about. So the allegations

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Speaker 1: a relationship with a transsexual or someone in the process

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Speaker 1: of transitions. You'll have to excuse me. I'm not as

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Speaker 1: familiar as I should be with the lingo and phraseology.

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Speaker 1: But this is a person who allegedly was in the

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Speaker 1: process of transitioning from a being a man to a woman,

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Speaker 1: or at least in their mind they believe they were

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Speaker 1: going from being a man to a woman. And these

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Speaker 1: two were allegedly involved in some sort of relationship. Now

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Speaker 1: what's not clear is did they just start out his

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Speaker 1: roommates and then it became a relationship or did they

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Speaker 1: And what is also beginning to emerge is that this

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Speaker 1: partner to the shooter is fully cooperating with the authorities,

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Speaker 1: which I think was the New York Post and the

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail. We're reporting that the partner became aware of

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Speaker 1: the shearer's involvement from the authorities and from that moment

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Speaker 1: forward has fully cooperated. So it does sort of raise

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Speaker 1: a bunch of interesting questions, which, look at all, it

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Speaker 1: will all come out eventually, But if the if the

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Speaker 1: partner wasn't on board with what was going on, did

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Speaker 1: this individual just act of their own volition and if

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Speaker 1: the partner, if indeed you believe the reports about the

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Speaker 1: full cooperation with authorities, and that the person was totally

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Speaker 1: surprised and very taken aback when they learned that the

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Speaker 1: shooter wasn't allegedly involved. What was this person doing it for?

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Speaker 1: What was it all about.

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Speaker 2: We're also learning that there were some conversations on social

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Speaker 2: media and are there more people involved with this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The reports coming as a discord is the app that

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Speaker 1: was allegedly used in which, according to again multiple outlets,

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Speaker 1: that the shooter once the once the pictures surfaced, the

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Speaker 1: shooter was in some sort of group chat and people

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Speaker 1: were saying, hey, that looks you know, jokingly right, never

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Speaker 1: thinking that it was actually him, that Hey, that person

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Speaker 1: really looks like you, and the and the alleged shooter

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Speaker 1: was actually playing along in the.

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Speaker 2: Same yeah, in the chat, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So very interesting because I think the prevailing wisdom is, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was assassinated because of especially when they found

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Speaker 1: out that this guy was allegedly in this relationship with

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Speaker 1: the transgender, that Hey was killed because of Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 1: views on transgenderism. But it doesn't sound like from what

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Speaker 1: from this this transgender individual or the person the process

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Speaker 1: of transitioning, that they they wanted this or were urging

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now the FBI director Cash Mattel is going

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Speaker 2: to face a congressional hearing some scrutiny over his handling

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Speaker 1: Well, and I guess my question would be, Okay, One,

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Speaker 1: the FBI had no role in securing the venue in

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Speaker 1: which Charlie Kirk was having this event, so we take

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Speaker 1: that out of the equation. But two, Yeah, he's going

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Speaker 1: to probably get some heat over basically insinuating they had

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: He was turned in by So it wasn't like the FBI,

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Speaker 1: you know, figured it out and surrounded the house and

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Speaker 1: you know, but it's so differ than the help the

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Speaker 1: Luigi guy, the guy the Luigia MANGIONI wasn't that his name? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: killed the Healthcare was a United Healthcare CEO. They found

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Speaker 1: him in a McDonald's somebody at the McDonald's turn. That's

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Speaker 1: usually how this wor you get a picture out there,

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Speaker 1: FBI center gets thousands of tips. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: involved in you know, full cooperation, and you know, in

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Speaker 1: the modern era it I think it would be very

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Speaker 1: hard unless you're a total professional assassin, hit man, whatever,

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Speaker 1: to just blend back, like almost like a Jackal type

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Speaker 1: on loosely on a real guy who was a highly

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Speaker 1: trained international assassin. Unless you're that type of person, how

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Speaker 1: long are you actually going to be able to hide? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the thing. The plan to get away or

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Speaker 1: So before we get to this question about if you're

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Speaker 1: using Charlie Kirk's death to further a political agenda, are

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Speaker 1: you as bad as the people that are celebrating the

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Speaker 1: death itself. You have some audio for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of goes along with the answer because

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Speaker 2: you asked that question, and ask it one more time.

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Speaker 1: If you are a person who is using Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 1: death the further a political agenda. Are you as bad

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Speaker 1: as the people are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.

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Speaker 2: I think Kirk's death it's really become a rallying cry

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Speaker 2: for election redistricting and also broader political hardening on the right.

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Speaker 1: So do do you have some audio that you want

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Speaker 1: to play before we get to this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is Stephen Miller and he's talking about

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Speaker 2: the last message that Charlie Kirk gave him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Steven Miller is a leading advisor to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He's the deputy chief of staff at the White House.

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Speaker 2: And he says, this is what Charlie told him.

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Speaker 3: And let me tell you something I'm not share with anybody,

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Speaker 3: But the last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me

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Speaker 3: before he joined his creator in heaven was he said

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Speaker 3: that we have to dismantle and take on the radical

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Speaker 3: left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That

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Speaker 3: was the last message that he sent me before that

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Speaker 3: assassin stole him from all of us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so why don't we let's take a break because

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Speaker 1: I want to read you what Jim Banks, senator from

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Speaker 1: this big event, and there's very few things that I

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Speaker 1: i know how they operate, and I've been aroun along

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Speaker 1: and there's like, there's very few things that I'm actually

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Speaker 1: taken aback by. But Jim Banks said something over the

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Speaker 1: weekend that I've found to be so ridiculously offensive, and

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Speaker 1: so it sparks the question, if you are using Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk's death the further political agenda, are you as bad

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Speaker 1: as the people who are celebrating it.