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Speaker 1: to hear it. And I understand that we right now

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Speaker 1: on a streaming standpoint, the engineers here are aware and

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Speaker 1: everyone is aware of some of the complications and hiccups

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Speaker 1: I apologize for it, but I appreciate everyone's understanding and

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Speaker 1: hopefully their patients in finding us in different avenues, whether

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Speaker 1: or one oh seven five thefan dot com. But again

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Speaker 1: those streaming issues do have a hiccup sometimes the old

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Speaker 1: radio itself probably still is the best way. Now. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: we are hoping to have this for you to hear

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Speaker 1: in their words soon, but it does appear I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to stoke a fire. I'm not trying to make

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Speaker 1: a mountain out of a molehill. But Shane Steiken began

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Speaker 1: today's comments by saying that Anthony Richardson, while the bone

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Speaker 1: is healed, is having a vision issue. Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: saying that he does not have any issue with his vision.

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Speaker 1: So is there a mixed signal? What did I say yesterday?

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I said yesterday and then I let

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Speaker 1: off today before we even knew this that it seems

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Speaker 1: as though sometimes the messaging is inconsistent. And we will

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Speaker 1: hopefully play for you both of those comments coming up

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Speaker 1: here shortly as soon as we processed through all of that.

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Speaker 1: But joining us now in the Java House, Peel and

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Speaker 1: poor guest line Java House dot com is the website

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Speaker 1: for amazingly smooth coffee, also the Wrangler Energy and the

478
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Speaker 1: Liquid Science hydration beverage. After your workouts peel and poor.

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Speaker 1: It is very simple. Add it to your water and

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Speaker 1: there's your beverage. Jake twenty five for twenty five percent

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Speaker 1: off for Java House. Tony East joining us now from

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Speaker 1: Forbes locked on Pacers amongst others, talking about the Pacers

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Speaker 1: who have New York Tonight, Tony. It's been kind of

484
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Speaker 1: this layoff period here for the Pacers and now back

485
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Speaker 1: in the mix. One of the things I find interesting

486
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Speaker 1: that we have talked about and yes, people look at

487
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Speaker 1: it and say, why are they talking about ten day

488
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Speaker 1: contracts or one year G League contracts, et cetera. But

489
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Speaker 1: it seems as though Rick Carlisle has been able to

490
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Speaker 1: kind of masterfully audition players for depth pieces while still

491
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Speaker 1: working it into a system that is allowing them to

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Speaker 1: be somewhat competitive with in games. Who is the latest

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Speaker 1: now that we're looking at as hmmm, are they giving

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Speaker 1: this an audition?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I would love to answer that, But I would

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Speaker 5: actually like to ask a favor of you, Jake, Can

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Speaker 5: you make the noise again that the coffee water interaction makes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for asking that. That's Java house and

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Speaker 1: when you put it in it's that instantly. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. It doesn't do this. It doesn't do this, tony. Okay,

501
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Speaker 1: a lot of times you get one that does this.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and then you think your cat's hYP perventially

503
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Speaker 1: and it takes forever. You don't need you just literally

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Speaker 1: could put it in there. It is.

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Speaker 5: I really enjoyed that on my lead in hearing you

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Speaker 5: make the exact interaction.

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Speaker 6: Joba houses lovely.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Yes, they signed. The Pacers signed Game

509
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Speaker 5: mcglothin this week to a ten day deal. Another hardship there,

510
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 5: sixth to one. I don't think i'd covered a single

511
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Speaker 5: hardship signing ever for the Pacers before the season, and

512
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Speaker 5: now they've done six in less than two months, which

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Speaker 5: you know, we can talk and we will talk about

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Speaker 5: how good the team is doing and what they are,

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Speaker 5: what they're not doing well, and why they're six and

516
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Speaker 5: twenty and things of that nature, and like there are

517
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Speaker 5: real answers to that, but then you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: they've been that level of injured all season right now

519
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Speaker 5: with Ben Shepherd aeron need Smith and Obi topping out.

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Speaker 5: Their biggest need is a forward and mcglofflin's been playing

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Speaker 5: pretty well for the Noblesville Boom. He many will remember

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Speaker 5: he played in the preseason for the Pacers, right so

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Speaker 5: he knows the system well. The Boom are pretty similar

524
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Speaker 5: in how they play. I'll be it with different players

525
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Speaker 5: than the Pacers, and this one's a little different to

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Speaker 5: me than there are other hardship signings they've done before.

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Speaker 5: When they signed like Garrison Man Matthews and Cody Martin

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Speaker 5: and Jeremi Robinson Merrell, those guys all played like immediately

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Speaker 5: they were in the rotation their very first games. I

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Speaker 5: don't think they need Gabe to be playing right away,

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Speaker 5: but if you have the resource, it does make sense

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Speaker 5: to add some depth like their foul trouble or an

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Speaker 5: injury away. If from meeting them forward now they get

534
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Speaker 5: to do their Boom call up and keep evaluating what

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Speaker 5: they need, because I think between Furfy and Walker, you know,

536
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Speaker 5: not showing a ton recently, and you know some of

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Speaker 5: these wings we're talking about what Ethon Thompson's been on

538
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Speaker 5: this two way like they're really looking at who's helping

539
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Speaker 5: them win now and who can help them win next

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Speaker 5: year on certain deals because they as much as this

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Speaker 5: season is about what it's about, it's us about figuring

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Speaker 5: out what's gonna make the next year Pacers with tyres

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Speaker 5: Helburn back as good as possible. So I think that's

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Speaker 5: part of the you know, in and outness of a

545
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Speaker 5: lot of these contracts is trying to figure out which

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Speaker 5: of these guys could be the best answer to that question, Tony.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the last two games, Okay, Tony East,

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Speaker 1: my guest, Joba House Peel and poor guest line Philly

549
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Speaker 1: and Washington. Now Philly's a little bit different because Joel

550
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Speaker 1: and beat somehow found this like fountain of youth and

551
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Speaker 1: he was the Joel and Beade of old. But in

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Speaker 1: terms of Washington, the lackluster, just effort of that. Every

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Speaker 1: team has games like that. But are we starting to

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Speaker 1: see finally the mental fatigue that can set in when

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Speaker 1: a team has everything they're going up against it.

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Speaker 2: This one has had.

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Speaker 6: But perhaps that's that's what happened. I mean that was

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Speaker 6: did you go to that game, Jake?

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Speaker 5: Were you there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was hideous.

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Speaker 1: I was not there, actually, one of I think that's

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Speaker 1: the only game I've not been to this ship. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the problem because I don't know if you know this,

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Speaker 1: not Tony, but typically when I walk into the arena,

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Speaker 1: you hear it instant energy.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was bizarre, and you're right that it happens every year,

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Speaker 5: Like I think you were at this game. Last year,

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Speaker 5: they had that Cup game against the Miami Heat where

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Speaker 5: Rick just benched the entire starting five in the third

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Speaker 5: quarter like that. Every year, every team has one or

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Speaker 5: two games where there's just no energy. That's not to

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Speaker 5: say it's like acceptable. It's never good every every single

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Speaker 5: time it happens, but it does happen, but it is,

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Speaker 5: you know, super concerning. When it happens against the Wizards

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Speaker 5: on your home floor.

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Speaker 2: Do you just get.

578
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Speaker 5: Completely embarrassed by the worst team in the NBA And

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Speaker 5: they all acknowledged post game like yeah, that we can't

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Speaker 5: have that, it can happen. Part of me wonders if

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Speaker 5: you know, they played bad in the first quarter, and

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Speaker 5: Carlisle noted that post game, even though they were winning

583
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Speaker 5: at that time, if they thought they didn't need you know,

584
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Speaker 5: like that's fine, you know we're playing a bad team.

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Speaker 5: We'll figure it out. And win and they I think

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Speaker 5: they got it's like seven in the third quarter or something,

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Speaker 5: but you know, with that level of effort, they had

588
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Speaker 5: no chance. They had no chance to win that game.

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Speaker 5: They never got good shot. They shot under forty percent

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Speaker 5: against the wars defense in the league and they lost.

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Speaker 5: And you do under and you know, there's that shot

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Speaker 5: of Siakam on the bench like, you know, looking like

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Speaker 5: what's happening, like shocked almost, like what kind of toll

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Speaker 5: losses can play? You know, no, no pro athlete likes losing,

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Speaker 5: especially when you've now lost at home to the Brooklyn

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Speaker 5: Nets and the Washington Wizards in the same season. They

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Speaker 5: have not beaten over five hundred team as of right now.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the Warriors get there eventually, but they haven't played

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Speaker 5: well this season at all, and eventually it does, you know,

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Speaker 5: wear on you, and it's it's gonna hit different. I

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Speaker 5: think for these players too, because it sucks, but they

602
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Speaker 5: know it's gonna end, right because they should. Even if

603
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: Aliburn's not as good, post Achilles be good next year, right,

604
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Speaker 5: So they know they have to take their lungs. But

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Speaker 5: that doesn't make it easier in the moment when you're

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Speaker 5: getting smoked at home by the worst team, and I

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Speaker 5: think they had a strong week of responsive practices to it.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, games like that just can't happen, right,

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Speaker 5: it was even in a season like this where losses

610
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Speaker 5: aren't as painful as there are in other seasons, Like

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Speaker 5: you get nothing from that when you lose to Philly

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Speaker 5: and you're winning in the fourth quarter and you show

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Speaker 5: some good defensive things against non NB players and your

614
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: role players are out having really great games, like that's good.

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Speaker 5: You learn something from that. Those guys get extra valuable

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Speaker 5: experience from playing well against a good team. When you

617
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Speaker 5: get completely punked against the Wizards in a nofor game,

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Speaker 5: sure the result might be fine to some fans, like

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Speaker 5: you get nothing from that as the Pacers like nothing,

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Speaker 5: so they just can't have games like that.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess Tony Tony East my guest the

622
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Speaker 1: mindset as so far he has been a pro. But

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Speaker 1: you do feel bad for Pascal Siakam just because he's

624
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Speaker 1: been the one stable player right into you know that

625
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: has not missed time, and yet he's got different guys

626
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Speaker 1: around him seemingly all the time. Have you seen any

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Speaker 1: indication at all that Sam is approaching being over it.

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Speaker 1: I mean over it as in, yeah, that's that's an

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Speaker 1: extreme that's an extreme case. I don't mean that would

630
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Speaker 1: be the case, but but where he is getting fatigued

631
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Speaker 1: by it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think you said that like early when

633
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Speaker 5: they were you know whatever, it was too and eight

634
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Speaker 5: or whatever, and they lost that tight game to the

635
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Speaker 5: Bucks at the Buzzer, and you know, he was answering

636
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: a lot of questions about like just how frustrating it

637
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Speaker 5: is that at that time they were at least playing okay,

638
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Speaker 5: but they.

639
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Speaker 2: Just couldn't win.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he talked about how much they wanted

641
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Speaker 5: to turn it around.

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Speaker 6: And you know how.

643
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Speaker 5: Frustrating was that they were having good stretches and then

644
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Speaker 5: they played awful on that road trip and for a

645
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 5: few games at home, and that's when I think you

646
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: saw the frustration, really said then for him, because I mean,

647
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: the Pacers record is so bad that they probably don't

648
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 5: deserve an All Star and the actors like that. But

649
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Speaker 5: if you just stack up Siakam stats to everybody in

650
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 5: the NBA, like he definitely deserves it, Like he's I

651
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: think only three or four guys are matching his per

652
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: game points rebounds, assists numbers, and you know, he's been

653
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: awesome for them, and like when he's on the floor

654
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: with the second unit, that group looks good, like they're

655
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: not rating when he's on the floor, it's pretty pretty acceptable,

656
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: even for a bad team. But then they lose and

657
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: it's very little to do with him.

658
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: He was not good against the Wizards, to.

659
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 5: Be clear, So I was wonderful, like he has always

660
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 5: had winning at his center, like since here, since winning

661
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: a title, Like he talked about part of why he,

662
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: you know, maybe was interested in coming here from Toronto

663
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: being that you know, Toronto wasn't winning as much anymore

664
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 5: and he missed that feeling. And he's a very simple guy.

665
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 6: And then you know, a bunch.

666
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: Of his teammates got paid a couple summers ago, and

667
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: he would he answered one question one time and talked

668
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: about how you know, if you win a lot, you'll

669
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: get paid. And you know, it's like it's always just

670
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 5: been who he is and what's a big part of

671
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 5: him in the NBA, and the pitchers are not doing

672
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: that right now, and you can see it on its

673
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 5: face during games, and you can hear it by what

674
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: he says postgame. But I think he also knows that

675
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: Tyre Salburn will be back next year, so he's kind

676
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 5: of the face of what I'm talking about. Of it's

677
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 5: it sucks like you guys thought they'd be better. They

678
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: know they're good players, but they're not winning at all.

679
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: But they know that, you know, brighter days are coming,

680
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: and so they kind of just have to take it,

681
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: which makes it way more difficult in the moment. Maybe

682
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 5: there'll be a point where they realize that it won't

683
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: be so bad. It's only one season, but you know,

684
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: one seasons a long time in the NBA, and at

685
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: six and.

686
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Twenty is not a fun stretch for anybody.

687
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Tony East again locked on Pacers Forbes. You hear him

688
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: on this radio show as well on the Java House

689
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: peeling Poor guest line Pacers next night at Gambridge Field House.

690
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: Tony appreciate it as always.

691
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: I hope they make a video of you doing that

692
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 5: for like an advert or it may be very well.

693
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Listen, I've never really even thought about the fact I

694
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: do it. It just it just naturally. I'm like a walking harmonica.

695
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: It's one of them.

696
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: When I go ahead, my.

697
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: Wife makes reilly noises like that.

698
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: I always say what was that? Can you repeat that?

699
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: And she says, one time deal. So I'm glad you

700
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 5: actually went through with it and repeated the whole exchange.

701
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: For me, a man of limited talents has to weigh

702
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: in and lean in on any talent that may be found, Tony.

703
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: So yes, we do.

704
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: All right, We'll be looking for the coverage to the

705
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: next game tonight. I appreciate it, you get it, okay

706
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: when we come back. It was sixty minutes that did

707
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: a feature a profile on Indiana University football, but for

708
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: the professional sports team in town, another news magazine show

709
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: of yesteryear. The title might be applicable twenty twenty because

710
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: that might be one of the areas of discussion and

711
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: debate internally for the Colts. I will explain what I'm

712
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: talking about next. You know, you don't. You don't look

713
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: for signs that there's an inconsistency, and you don't try

714
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: to create I promise you, promise you. And when I

715
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: say this, people probably are going to jump up and

716
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: down and offer for five thousand, two hundred and sixty

717
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: four examples to the counter. I get it, but I

718
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: promise you of this. I don't make storylines up I

719
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: don't create drama, and I think that there are people

720
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: that we cover or we talk about in sport that

721
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: doesn't do either. But for whatever reason, there are some

722
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: athletes that it just seems drama is constantly around them.

723
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Some of it they create, some of it gets unfairly tagged.

724
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: For example, Draymond Green. There are times where Draymond Green

725
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: is probably involved in a play that he had nothing

726
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: to do with any impropriety, but he gets whistled for it,

727
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: and then he goes bonkers, and then it just becomes

728
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: on and on and on. But it seems like when

729
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: you say, okay, if I had to pick one player

730
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: in an NBA game and there was a misunderstanding where

731
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: the player got upset and frustrated and no, you'd go, oh,

732
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: it had to be Draymond Green. And in the situation

733
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson, I don't think he's a bad guy

734
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: at all. I don't think the Colts think he's a

735
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: bad guy, but I think it's clear they don't trust him.

736
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: They don't trust him for whatever reason, either because they

737
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw early on, or because eventually

738
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: you're the reputation or the label or the thought process

739
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: about somebody becomes a reality, and early on Shane Steichen

740
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: was disappointed in And when you say the work ethic

741
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: of a guy, I don't mean that that means that

742
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: they were expecting him to like be Kobe Bryant and

743
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: be there at four point thirty in the morning every

744
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: day and leave at nine o'clock at night every day.

745
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: But I think Anthony Richardson thought, well, for work at

746
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: eight and I leave at five, and they're like, yeah,

747
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: but you're the quarterback. It needs to be seven to six,

748
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. I don't think anything

749
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: was ever. I don't think there were ever screaming matches

750
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: anything like that. I think the Colts just got to

751
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: a point where they were getting frustrated that things were

752
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: not becoming a clear vision of what they wanted for him.

753
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: And then clear vision becomes the latest drama, and yeah,

754
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: it feels like a drama, and maybe we're making more

755
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: out of it. I'm simply gonna do this. I'm going

756
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: to play for you, Shane Steichen today. I'm going to

757
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: play for you Anthony Richardson today. I'm then, at the

758
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: top of the hour, going to allow you, the Colts fans,

759
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: to tell me whether or not you believe there's something there.

760
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: And by something there, I mean it almost sounds like

761
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: the Colts are looking for reason to not put him

762
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: on the field. I don't know that, I listen. I

763
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: totally Again, I go back to if the Colts had

764
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: simply said, look, guys, he had a broken bone in

765
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: his eye socket. That's gonna take some time that we

766
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: cannot afford or risk him getting hit there again, even

767
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: if it's healed right now, Okay, cool, Everyone to a

768
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: man and woman in this town would be like, totally

769
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: understand the thought of a bone fracture of my eye socket. No, thanks, right,

770
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: totally understand. But instead you're getting these mixed signals. It's

771
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: about his conditioning. Reggie Wayne, you know, saying well, are

772
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: you know? Are you in the building like ice inferring, Look,

773
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I see what's going on in the building. Well, what's

774
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: going on in the building. Shane Steichen was asked earlier

775
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: about Anthony Richardson and whether or not he is going

776
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: to be able to play now that he is medically cleared.

777
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like you get the clearance from the

778
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 7: bone structure that was cleared obviously, but there was limitations

779
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: with that, you know, with the vision that's healing. So

780
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 7: he's working through that. Like I said, he's gonna have

781
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 7: to manage it. I get him out on the practice

782
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 7: field and go from there.

783
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: Okay. Anthony Richardson on where things stand.

784
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 8: I feel normal. You know, I'm able to see, able

785
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 8: to jive, walk around, I bump into anything. So that's

786
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 8: not really major limitations. You know, it's just a little

787
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 8: different because because of the impact that happened in my eye.

788
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 8: But you know, most of us really the same. You know,

789
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 8: I'm still able to move around the same and do

790
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 8: everything I needed to do, So that's not that bad.

791
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: It's not that bad. Edy Garrison with breaking news.

792
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: Mike Nysilek Front of the program, tweeting just about a

793
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: half hour or so ago that Indiana football offensive coordinator

794
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: Jake Mike Shanahan has agreed to a new three year

795
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: deal with the school. Per sources familiar with the situation,

796
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: IU has now locked yeah both of its coordinators to

797
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: new deals to keep them in the fold for next

798
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Speaker 2: year in Bloomington.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, sixty minutes talked about how Indiana, from

800
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: a football standpoint financially wanted to now make a bigger

801
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: pledge and commitment to Indiana football to make sure they

802
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: stay where they are obviously the number one seed. And

803
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: then as I talked about sixty minutes many years ago there,

804
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: I think it's still around though the show twenty twenty,

805
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: and is this now in the news magazine version from

806
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: the Colt standpoint of twenty twenty? Does anybody else notice?

807
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: And I'll play them both one more time? Does anybody

808
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: else notice anything? Here? We're gonna play Perry Mason together.

809
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna play give me your favorite detective of all

810
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: time together me.

811
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Sherlock.

812
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Holmes, Sherlock Holmes. We're gonna play Sherlock Holmes together, Mission Impossible,

813
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: James Bond, whatever it might be, all of it. We're

814
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna play those two clips. And I want you folks

815
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: to tell me if you think they're in fact is

816
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: an inconsistency of messaging here? Two nine ten seventy is

817
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: the telephone number on this day with this story between

818
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: Richardson and Stike in all kinds of stuff going on

819
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: here on a busy newsy Thursday. We'll get back into

820
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: the Stike and Richardson thing in just a second. I

821
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: wanted to send this along from the ex post Twitter.

822
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: This is from Ben Divine, who covers it appears the

823
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: Bears the Bears in the Chicago area. He sent a

824
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: post that says, here's how fast Indiana is moving. They

825
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: have already signed a bill allowing major sports complexes to

826
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: be built tax free in Northwest Indiana. So maybe I

827
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: was wrong, Maybe Indiana again that that becomes then And

828
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: this is like I said earlier, well above my pay grade,

829
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: of the un standing of how the logistics would work

830
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: of a team if it was would they have to

831
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: move all of their headquarters to Northwest Indiana if they

832
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: were to build a stadium here. Could they be headquartered

833
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: as a business entity in Chicago but play their games

834
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: in you know, Merrillville or Gary or whatever it might be.

835
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.

836
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: Isn't that like either of the New York teams? Do they?

837
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: I would have to look into.

838
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: This, well, different states obviously, with New York and New Jersey.

839
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, there is Eddie. Without

840
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: getting too far into the weeds here, I could be wrong.

841
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't live in that area, but I think that

842
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: when you talk about the lawmakers and certainly the politics

843
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: of Chicago versus the state government of Indiana, it is

844
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: probably more slippery than it is between New York and

845
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Now, I will say, if the Bears are

846
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: contemplating and getting this heavy into it, be forewarned that

847
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: the phrase why not Indiana is trademarked. Now, if the

848
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Bears would like to sell t shirts to alarm the

849
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: city of Chicago and its lawmakers that say why not Indiana,

850
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: then we could talk. I'm all about it. I'm all

851
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: about if the Bears want to do that. Also, Andrew

852
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: Luck was earlier on and I like this guy a lot,

853
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: did a little bit with him during the Super Bowl

854
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: when it was here. I'll be honest, I was not

855
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: totally aware that he was still doing a show. I

856
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: think it's an online show. But Andrew Luck was on

857
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: with Jim Rome today and said that the Colts did

858
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: They never called Andrew Luck, and not that that's a surprise,

859
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: and that's not a bad thing. But Jim Rome asked

860
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: him how many chances or how many times he had

861
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: to say no to the Colts, and he said zero.

862
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: But I amware, I need to be. I would have

863
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: politely declined had the Colts called, and I think probably

864
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard is aware of that. All right, let's get

865
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: back into this situation. Two three nine ten seventy is

866
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: the telephone number I'm going to play again. I almost

867
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: want to do this like unsolicited it unsolicit is the

868
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: wrong word. I'm sorry, without leading you, without bias. I

869
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: have my own thought. I think I've probably voiced that.

870
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: But but I want people to listen to this and

871
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: then tell me what you hear or don't hear. Okay.

872
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken asked earlier today about Anthony Richardson. Now that

873
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has been medically cleared to practice, and again

874
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: what we know. These are all just facts that I'm

875
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: pointing out. Shane Steiken had said that while the eye

876
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: was cleared for Anthony Richardson to return to practice, that

877
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was not in the physical conditioning just yet

878
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: and that they would need some time. That then was

879
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: the question was raised of what sort of physical conditioning

880
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: does a former top five pick that was taking snaps

881
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, you know, as recently as

882
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: a year ago, need to get into to equate to

883
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: a forty four year old that has not played in

884
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: five years after five weeks off, what condition was he?

885
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: And then six weeks ago Reggie Wayne, when someone brought

886
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: up that question mark on social media, replied with are

887
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: you at home or in the building, which would imply

888
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: to me that what Reggie Wayne is saying there without

889
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: realizing he's saying it is Look, you have no idea

890
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes with Anthony Richardson, to which raises

891
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: the question, well, what are the behind the scenes. So today,

892
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: when Shane Steichen was discussing the availability of players from

893
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football against the San Francisco forty nine ers, like,

894
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: for example, the fact that DeForest Buckner is back, the

895
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: fact that Bernard Rayman and Sauce Gardner are not practicing today,

896
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: he was then asked about Anthony Richardson and the difference

897
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: between being medically cleared to practice and playing.

898
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, like you get the clearance from the

899
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 7: bone structure that was cleared obviously, but there was limitations

900
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 7: with that, you know, with the vision that's healing. So

901
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 7: he's working through that. Like I said, he's gonna have

902
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 7: to manage it. I get him out on the practice

903
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 7: field and go from there.

904
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: So then here is Anthony Richardson when asked about those

905
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: comments from Shane Steikin.

906
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 8: I feel normal. You know, I'm able to see, able

907
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 8: to drive, walk around, I bump in to anything, So

908
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 8: that was not really major limitations. You know, It's just

909
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 8: a little different because because of the impact that happened

910
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 8: to my eye. But you know, most of us really

911
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 8: the same. You know, I'm still able to move around

912
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 8: the same and do everything I need to do, So

913
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 8: that's not that bad.

914
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Two three nine, ten seventy is the telephone number. Maybe

915
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: people are exhausted by it. Maybe I'm guilty of because

916
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: this is the case at times, Eddie. As you know,

917
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: I maybe I overthink things, maybe I overanalyze things or

918
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: overinterpret things.

919
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 8: But that's not that bad.

920
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, Eddie, What do you hear in that.

921
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: I hear Anthony trying to downplay it a little bit,

922
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: and I think Shane is being a little more truthful

923
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: about the situation, just because there's been so many injuries

924
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: on the history of Anthony Richardson that he's paranoid about this,

925
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, this lingering. You're like, hey, why isn't he

926
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: out there? Why is he out there?

927
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: This?

928
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: That and the other and he's saying, Yeah, it's guys,

929
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm fine, it's not that bad.

930
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: So do you think let me ask you this.

931
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: But it's also it's it's no shock to me that

932
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: these two aren't on the same page. Like you go

933
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: back to how the whole benching was handled last year

934
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson and the messaging between him and Chains

935
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: thinking totally different.

936
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Shane Steichen is being truthful and

937
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is being guarded because Anthony Richardson does not

938
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: want to affect or impact his stock, knowing that he

939
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: is on the cusp of perhaps from another team perhaps

940
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: signing him or getting the opportunity to play to still

941
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: get a second contract in the NFL.

942
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair point to bring up, Jake, because

943
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: if you think about it, if other teams are monitoring

944
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: the situation, because let's say you're the New Orleans Saints

945
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: and you are interested in potentially trading for Anthony Richardson

946
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: because you don't think Tyler Shuck is a franchise level

947
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: quarterback here and you want to bring on a guy

948
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: who is going to be in the final year of

949
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: his rickey contract. You know he may play with a

950
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: chip on his sh order like, hey, I got to,

951
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 2: you know, play well so I can secure a quote

952
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: unquote bag as the kids say. And you kind of

953
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: give Kellen Moore the head coach of the quarterback that

954
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: he wants if he is, you know, if he chooses

955
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson as the guy he wants to, you know,

956
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: potentially build around as the quarterback. You've got Anthony telling

957
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: all these other guys like, hey, look, yeah, I'm fine.

958
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: It's the other people that are holding me back. It's

959
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen and Chris Ballard and the training staff. Who

960
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: knows they're the reason why I'm not playing. It's not me.

961
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I can go out there and play Sunday

962
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: if needed.

963
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it certainly feels like that's kind of what

964
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: he's indirectly saying, right like I could. But the Richardson,

965
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: it's in Richardson's best interest to indicate that Richardson can play.

966
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: It's in Stikeen's best interest probably or the best interest

967
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: of the Colts to indicate that if he could play,

968
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: he would be out there because you want his value

969
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: to be high. But I am still I am simply

970
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: convinced Shane Steikin wants no part of that.

971
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: Me too, Me too, Shan.

972
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I am and I'm probably going to be off base here,

973
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: and I will gladly, gladly admit if and when I'm wrong.

974
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe that Anthony Richardson takes another meaningful starting

975
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: snap as an Indianapolis cult, even if it's next year

976
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones is re signed and Daniel Jones is

977
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: not available until late September. Even if Daniel Jones first

978
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: start as a cult next year, you have to make

979
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: the decision whether to go to the Covered Bridge Festival

980
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: or watch the Colts with Daniel Jones in his first

981
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: start the games that would precede that, the two to

982
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: three of them. Even if it's Riley, even if Anthony

983
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Richardson is available, I don't believe he starts. I think

984
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: it's Riley Leonard or I don't think it'd be Philip Rivers.

985
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: But I just.

986
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I that sounds to me like what we are seeing

987
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: is a guy that from a head coaching standpoint, and

988
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's personal. I don't.

989
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: You know.

990
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: It goes back to just quarterbacks need to have a

991
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: coach that believes in what they can do in tight situations,

992
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and coaches need quarterbacks that they are comfortable delivering to

993
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: them a message or a game plan or requesting of

994
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: them an execution of what they need done. And I

995
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: just think Shane Steichen is out on that. And I

996
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: think that Shane's you become we all. We all favor familiarity,

997
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: we do and anything. And the familiarity for Shane stike

998
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: In clearly is with Daniel Jones, which is ironic because

999
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: he had Richardson first, but not consistent Richardson again. Maybe

1000
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm misreading it, but that sounds to me like, in fact,

1001
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: a coach that's totally out. Eddie. Do you think the

1002
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Bears really could move to Indiana?

1003
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I wish I could give you

1004
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: a more direct answer or yes or no, but I've

1005
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: got no clue.

1006
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I would think that the Colts, and this is what

1007
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: will get interesting. The Colts are a heartbeat organization of

1008
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: this community from a civic pride standpoint, from a revenue standpoint,

1009
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: from a branding standpoint. And the Pacers interesting that the

1010
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: you know the Indiana Pacers yet? And part of this

1011
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: is just NFL versus NBA. I think you could make

1012
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: the argument that the Colts have a fan base that

1013
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: encompasses a larger percentage or portion of Indiana than do

1014
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: the Pacers, and a lot of that is just because

1015
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: of the nature of the NBA. You know, the the

1016
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: NBA is more of a stars league, and so if

1017
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: you're a kid living in Fort Wayne or Evansville or

1018
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: South Bend, your favorite team more likely it's less about

1019
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: who your favorite team is and who your favorite player

1020
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: is because the NBA markets individual stars. So you're what

1021
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: do we call it the Carmel pups games When the

1022
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors are here, or the Lakers are here,

1023
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: or Yannis is here or Women Miyama is here, I

1024
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: can tell you the ticket requests for those games go

1025
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: up exponentially because you have kids in Elwood and Terre

1026
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Hate and Fort Wayne and Muncie that they love those

1027
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: players and they want to see them play, and so

1028
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: they come to Gamebridge to see them play against the Pacers.

1029
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: And the NFL standpoint, it's more about like the team itself.

1030
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: But the Colts have become such an integral part of

1031
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: this city and the state that I would be curious

1032
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: to see whether or not the Colts would go to

1033
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: state lawmakers and say, look, I know that you just

1034
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: passed apparently or allegedly some sort of legislation that a

1035
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: stadium could be built tax free. Here. That seems to

1036
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: me to be that if that report is true, it

1037
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: surprises me, I'll be honest with you, but it wouldn't

1038
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: surprise me if eventually Carli orse Gordon or Dan Emerson,

1039
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: who's the legal representative of the Colts, went to the

1040
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: state understandably so and said, look, we need to discuss

1041
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: this because it would not be in the Colts' best interest.

1042
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: I think the Colts only in the last ten years

1043
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: or so, the Colts have made a very concerted effort,

1044
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: even though they are the Indianapolis Colts, to brand as

1045
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: a state team. They're playing this Monday night with the

1046
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: Indiana Knights uniforms. Yeah, maybe that parlays or plays off

1047
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: of the Tom Petty lyric, but the logo itself is

1048
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: the Colts Sea with the State of Indiana outline subtly

1049
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: and subliminally within it. And it's in their best interest

1050
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: to market and brand themselves, and they have done more

1051
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: in the last decade. It would seem between sponsoring the

1052
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: high school football state finals and traveling around with blue

1053
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: and doing such other things to get and in northern Indiana.

1054
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Though it is true also on the other side of

1055
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: that that you get north of Lafayette and you get

1056
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: into that weird region where you're in the central time zone.

1057
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: And then certainly you get into the region Gary Merrillville,

1058
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: East Chicago. Those shook the Bears are the team up there,

1059
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: no question, I get it. But having people sitting on

1060
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: their couch to watch the team versus having people like

1061
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: going out and buying even more merchandise of or whatever

1062
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: else the team, or having then the team from a

1063
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: national branding standpoint be associated with Indiana or two different things,

1064
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: because then you also get into, you know, honestly, things

1065
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: like for example, if a and I'm not going to

1066
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: say any names, but if a major branded beverage or

1067
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: a major branded athletic gear does marketing and merchandising within

1068
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: a certain state. You know how it is, You're driving

1069
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: to Florida, you stop at a rest stop somewhere in

1070
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: rural Georgia and you get yourself a soft drink and

1071
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: it's got the Falcons logo on the bottle, and it's

1072
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: the special commemorative, you know, collect all twenty five Falcon

1073
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: legend can whatever that the Falcon's got to cut of that,

1074
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: and they say, we're doing this all across the state

1075
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: of Georgia, And yes, they're Probably is some truth to

1076
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: the fact that the NFL, when they do those things

1077
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Speaker 1: now puts the Bears to an extent within the state

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01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: of Indiana. But it's still in the Cults' best interest

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: to make sure from all marketing and all attachment standpoint,

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: that the state of Indiana is ubiquitously as much as

1081
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: possible associated with the Colts and not another franchise. And

1082
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: so it would surprise me if the Colts are not

1083
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: currently and actively working on doing something to make sure

1084
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: that that is not going to happen. And I still

1085
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: maintain it's probably all for not Eddie. Today we were

1086
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: discussing you and I were strategizing right about it.

1087
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: We talk outside of the year to three.

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: It was mostly text and it was the discussion we

1089
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: had was do we need to have somebody on right

1090
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: now from Chicago to discuss this? And I said, let's

1091
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: not do it yet, because I think this is just

1092
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: this is literally it's like anything else, no matter where

1093
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: you work, no matter where you work, it's always nice

1094
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: for your employer to think that you have options when

1095
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: you're in a contract year, because you want to be

1096
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: able to say, you know, hey, I want my boss

1097
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: to think, like, you know what, We're gonna have to

1098
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: give this guy raised or else we might lose them

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01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: to across the street.

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01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: It's the word that resulting in the Cults picking up

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: a win jake that you're describing right now.

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: Leverage, Yes, leverage, and the Bears are trying to create leverage.

1103
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Do the Colts want the NFL television footprint in areas

1104
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: of northern Indiana where they're televised? Do they want that

1105
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now being a more legitimate discussion

1106
01:02:54,800 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: about shrinking the level of the regional broadcast where the

1107
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: Colts get penetration to your television. No, But the Bears

1108
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: want those that can come up with the money to

1109
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: build them a new stadium. They absolutely, without question and

1110
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: with one hundred percent certainty, want that market to go.

1111
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what would it mean. What would it mean

1112
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: to the city of Chicago, to the revenue of Chicago,

1113
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: to the sales tax of Chicago if now, all of

1114
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: a sudden the Bears are playing in a different state

1115
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: and a different state, where lawmakers in Chicago, already in

1116
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: different areas and in different discussions, have beef for lack

1117
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: of a better phrase, with the state of Indiana. Speaking

1118
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: of the state of Indiana, Tom Allen is down now

1119
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: in South Carolina with Clemson. He is the defensive coordinator

1120
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: there Clemson getting set for the Is it called the

1121
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: pen Stripe Bowl? The Yankee Bull? Is that what it is?

1122
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I think it's pen straight bull. They've got Penn State, right, Oh?

1123
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: Really? So if you're his former team.

1124
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 1: If you're Penn State and you're playing in that game,

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: don't you then call it the pin Stripe Bowl and

1126
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: you spell it pe n n str you have you right?

1127
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: I think that's right. It is his former team, so

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: Clemson and Penn State. And I'm sure when Tom Allen

1129
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: went there he thought the last thing that he expected

1130
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: was that he was going to be the defensive I mean,

1131
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, Clemson. Keep in mind,

1132
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: it was thought that Clemson was one that had an

1133
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: inside track on the number one seed in the College

1134
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: Football Playoff, But instead it is the Indiana Fighting Hoosiers

1135
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: and Tom Allen in getting ready for the pen Stripe Bowl.

1136
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: And I know that the guy's played this this morning,

1137
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: but there's something about it that caught my ear. Tom

1138
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: Allen was asked he was snapping, he was doing the

1139
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: fight song, and then he was asked about indian being

1140
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: the number one seed, and here's what he had to say,

1141
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: and listen to the very end.

1142
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 9: Just super happy for the players, math text, a bunch

1143
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 9: of them, the parents just so happy for him.

1144
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: A bunch of those guys are playing for him.

1145
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 9: You know, we got one as the Big Ten Player

1146
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 9: of the Year on the offensive line, and the kickers

1147
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 9: doing extremely well, receivers, a bunch of lignemen, dbs, you know,

1148
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 9: just one of their linebackers. Just really really happy for

1149
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 9: those guys, and just really happy that they've chosen.

1150
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: To invest in football.

1151
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 9: You know, that's something they know they needed to do,

1152
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 9: so that went out left and they had not done

1153
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 9: that in the past at the level that was necessary,

1154
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 9: and it's been awesome to see them recognize that and

1155
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 9: invest and be able to see them be rewarded for that.

1156
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: In his defense, he did say that he did say

1157
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: on the way out that Indiana needed to put better

1158
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: capital into the football program, and here they are number

1159
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: one seed overall. Christmas is upon us, and we've talked

1160
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: about women in sports. Good friend of the show, and

1161
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: he a we've been doing investigative work all day a

1162
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: little double seven within his ex post Twitter account. I'm

1163
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: talking about David Woods, former writer the Indianapolis Star, been

1164
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: covering a local athlete a lot lately. I want to

1165
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: ask him about that and about the book he's got

1166
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: out that is going to be perfect to end up

1167
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: under a tree near you. Soon. We'll explain next what

1168
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: Christmas time indeed is here. By the way, Matt Taylor,

1169
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: voice of the Colts, coming up to thirty today about

1170
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: an hour from now. We've been talking a lot about

1171
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: what's been going on with the Colts and for that matter,

1172
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, oddly enough, and I still I will

1173
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: until I hear otherwise. I'm still going to sit here

1174
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: and say there is I just would be stunned. It's

1175
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: a leverage played by the Bears. I don't think they're

1176
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: actually going to come to Indiana. There's also a story

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: I want to get to, while still unconfirmed, out of

1178
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina that is kind of a breaking news thing

1179
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: that happened right when we went on the air, But

1180
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: more information is coming about. But before we get to

1181
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: all of that, wanted to bring back onto the program

1182
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: one of the real good guys in Central Indiana, a

1183
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: guy that you read about and have for years in

1184
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: terms of covering track and field athletes notably and the

1185
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: Olympic Sports also is well aware of the accomplishment of

1186
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: women over time in Indianapolis and the state of Indiana

1187
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: and has a new book, Inspiring Women of Indiana Sports

1188
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: is the title of the book, and by that I

1189
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: mean not a book that is inspiring women, although it

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: does do that, but rather a book about women who

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: have been inspiring throughout their time in Indiana and in sports.

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: And David Woods, who is David Woods double seven on

1193
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: the ex post Twitter, joining me now on the Java

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01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line David, Happy holidays, How

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01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, did Jake? Thanks so much for having

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: me on.

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: Let's go back to And it's been a couple months

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Speaker 1: since the book came out. I know we talked to

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: you when it first came out, but this is, you know,

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: fabulous stuff because what you did when from you know,

1202
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: our conversation before is you just went back and thought

1203
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: to yourself, I got a lot of good stuff here

1204
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: that should all be put into basically one big album. Right,

1205
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: take me through just how this all came about the

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: Inspiring Women of Indiana Sports book.

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you usually do, Jake, you got it exactly.

1208
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1209
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: It occurred to me that because I had covered you know,

1210
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: Olympic sports and the Indiana fever for so long, I

1211
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: had over time quite this collection of uh of stories

1212
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: about about Indiana women's sports figures and and gosh, most

1213
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: of them are the backstories are pretty amazing. And I thought, gosh,

1214
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: I think I think this would be a neat book.

1215
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: And I UH and I passed it on to UH

1216
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: Indie Star Sports that are Nat Newell, and he passed

1217
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 3: it on to UH people that at Gannett, which has

1218
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 3: a relationship with Pediment Pediment Publishing, and uh lo and

1219
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: behold and somewhat to my surprise, UH, the book was

1220
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: published and and and uh and the editor Geene Myers

1221
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: did such a fabulous job of coming up with with

1222
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: photos and stuff. It's uh, it's an amazingly beautiful coffee

1223
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: table book. Of course, I was more concerned about the words,

1224
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 3: but the pictures make the whole thing just really exceeded

1225
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: my expectations enormously.

1226
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: David, when you go back, you know, if you think

1227
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: about it right now and obviously the evolution of women's

1228
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: sports in Central Indiana in particular, but just nationally, you know,

1229
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: it goes without saying we've had the cross through of

1230
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: those you know, elite female athletes like a you know,

1231
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: Florence Griffith Joiner that has had to compete in Indiana

1232
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: as a springboard of their career. But right now we

1233
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: are admist obviously with Caitlin Clark, you know, a huge

1234
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: surge in terms of interest of women's sports in the

1235
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: Indiana fever, when you've gone back and look and studied

1236
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: it and looked at the articles that you have, in

1237
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: the photos you have, is there any time that you

1238
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: would say was the golden era of women's sports in Indiana?

1239
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

1240
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I know it was certainly well, it

1241
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: was actually maybe not a golden moment but a silver

1242
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 3: moment when Bridget Sloan and Samantha Peschik were on the

1243
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight Olympic gymnastics team that won the silver,

1244
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: you know, kind of on foreign for soil against the

1245
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: gold witting China. That was remarkable because as I looked

1246
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 3: at the odds of making a women's gymnastics Olympic team,

1247
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: basically the odds are one in a million based on

1248
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: the number of girls who do gymnastics the United States

1249
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 3: and here Indiana had two girls on the team, and

1250
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: they weren't they didn't move here from elsewhere. They were

1251
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: from here, and they were at two different gyms. Even

1252
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: so you know that that was certainly remarkable. But I

1253
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: don't know if there's been specifically a Golden era. I mean,

1254
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: the Indian athletes have won a lot of medals at

1255
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen, twenty one, and twenty four Olympics, so

1256
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 3: you know we might be in that era now.

1257
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, David, it's it's when I have watched and

1258
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: followed along, when you know the different stories that you've covered.

1259
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: And again, the book, by the way, is Inspiring Women

1260
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: of Indiana Sports. It's available from Pediment Publishing that is

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: Pediment dot com, P E D I E N T

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: dot com, Pediment dot com. Also, if you are familiar

1263
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: with my Twitter account at Jake Query, I had just

1264
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: reposted David's yesterday mentioned of coming on the show that

1265
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: has links as well for the book fabulous and perfect,

1266
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: not only book people would enjoy, but for the holidays.

1267
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: It goes without saying, it'll be a great gift item, David.

1268
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: When you look at today and you know you talk

1269
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: about Samantha Passage, Bridget Sloan, one of those Olympians, and

1270
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about women here, but Cole Hawker's

1271
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: kept you plenty busy, right just in terms of the

1272
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: things that you cover. And I know that it is

1273
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: our job to stay objective when covering athletes, but I

1274
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: can also tell and appreciate the fact that you, in

1275
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: covering Cole hawk have had a great appreciation and respect,

1276
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of a pride to the fact that he's from Sinjol, Indiana.

1277
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: But I think more so you have been able to

1278
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: truly admire his career because of some of the different

1279
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: times that he has persevered, perhaps when others had written

1280
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: him off. And I can see in your writing that

1281
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: you are aware of that. What has it been like

1282
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: to follow his career.

1283
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, I told his agent a couple of years ago,

1284
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: actually even before the even before the Paris Olympics, so

1285
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: I thought he might end up becoming the most important

1286
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 3: sports figure you know, I ever reported on a regular basis,

1287
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: And I do think he is. Winning the Olympic fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred meters is an amazing achievement to do it, to

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Speaker 3: do so as an underdog, setting an Olympic record even

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Speaker 3: more so. And then when he won a world championship

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Speaker 3: at Tokyo in September at five thousand meters, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's one of only five men who have won global

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Speaker 3: titles at fifteen hundred and five thousand meters. And you know,

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 3: we're talking about basically the world's oldest sport, track and field.

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 3: So that's it has been interesting to follow his career.

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Speaker 3: Remember you're watching, you know, running at the cross country

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Speaker 3: semi state over at over at Shelbyville, or the state

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Speaker 3: or the state meet in Bloomington. So to do what

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Speaker 3: he's done is amazing and I and I think you

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Speaker 3: will go for ald record in the indoor two mile

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Speaker 3: February first at the Millrose Games in the New York Armory.

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Speaker 1: I thank you, will.

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Speaker 3: I think you'll aim for that.

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Speaker 1: David does your book, by the Way, Inspiring Women of

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: Indiana Sports. The author of it in the articles and

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01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: that are featured in the book is David Woods, who

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Speaker 1: joins me now on the Java House Peel and Poor

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: guest line. And I know that it is a collection

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: of different stories that you had covered in your time

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: here in covering sports in Central Indiana. Did you go

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Speaker 1: back also retroactively to before those that you covered that

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: may also have been featured or in photograph mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the book.

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Speaker 3: I didn't per se, but I but I did. I

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 3: did write about a couple of what I would consider,

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: you know, real uh, you know, real pioneers in the

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: sport that they weren't active at the time. But but

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: uh but as cheryld forg at a marathon world record,

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01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 3: she's out of North Central High School, and I wrote

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: about her and her daughter Shelaine Flanagan, who went on

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: to win an Olympic silver medal and win in New

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 3: York Marathon. And and the also the uh comone at

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01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 3: uh divert out of out of IU. Cynthia Potter, who

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: who has done people might recognize her name because she's

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Speaker 3: done commentary commentary on on every Olympics for oh gosh,

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01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, going back to the eighties. She's been the

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Speaker 3: uh the commentator and she still does it. So it's

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: not all from necessarily from from the time I've covered,

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: but that but that's but that's what I but that's

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Speaker 3: what I focused on, and I was and I was

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: glad to get as many as thirty one women covered.

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: You know, I could have included twice that many. So

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Speaker 3: the hard part was kind of making the cut. But

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Speaker 3: if it came down to inspirational story versus resume, I

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: tended to go with the inspirational story.

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Speaker 1: Love it inspiring women of Indiana Sports is the book.

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Speaker 1: Pediment dot com. That's p E d I M E

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Speaker 1: n T. Pediment dot com is the website where you

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: can see it. David Woods zero zero seven on the

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Speaker 1: X or Twitter, whichever way you'd like to refer to David,

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, Appreciate it as always, and again, congratulations on

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Speaker 1: the book. I know it's going to be something a

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01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of people enjoy and I appreciate your time today.

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much. Shake Happy holidays to you too.

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 3: Everybody at the station.

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: Very much appreciate it. David Woods joining us on the program.

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01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: The other thing that I wanted to get to several

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: people have sent this to me, and obviously at this

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: point it is one sadly and tragically where information is

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: still coming in. But what we do know is this

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: in North Carolina just before we went on today. As

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I believe this happened in the

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: ten o'clock hour. It became that the news was leaking

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01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: out just before we went on. But a private plane

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: that is by tail number owned by the aviation leaseing

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: corporation of Greg Biffle, the NASCAR former NASCAR star Greg Biffle,

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: crashed this morning at ten twenty and that Sesna C

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Speaker 1: five fifty, the tail number is tied to Greg Biffle.

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Speaker 1: Authorities in North Carolina and sadly, tragically, you know, disturbingly,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a very fiery plane crash, and

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: they have officials have said that it indeed does involve

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: multiple fatalities, and based on the imagery of it, one

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: would assume that the fatalities, unfortunately, would be anybody who

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: happened to be on board. The assumption or the connection

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: that one would make is that, in fact, because there

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: was initial link that Greg Biffle and his wife and

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: children would have been or were on said plane, it

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: has not yet been confirmed of that fact. But there

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: are multiple people that were close to Greg Biffle that

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: are offering their notes of hope and asking for the

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Speaker 1: prayers of Greg Biffle. So it would be irresponsible to

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Speaker 1: conclusively say that's who it is. Either way. You know,

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of I see a lot of

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: people and I understand it that are like, oh gosh,

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: you know, please don't let it be. These people are

1376
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: that people on a certain The bottom line is there

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: is a loss of life that alone is tragic. In

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: those situations, no one life is more more important or

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: more valuable than another. But Greg Biffel is someone who

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: his name has been linked to a lot of great deeds.

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: When North Carolina suffered the terrible flooding that they had

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: after natural disasters, I want to say that was a

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01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: year and a half, two years ago, whenever, that was

1384
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 1: the years all kind of go together. But he offered,

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: and he received a lot of praise, which is not

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: the reason that he did it. But he offered. He

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: had helicopters. He actually I recall now and I'm going

1388
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: off the top of my head here, but he owned

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,520
Speaker 1: a fleet either a helicopter or a fleet of helicopters

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: and began using them to get goods in and out

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: to help people out, to help get people out of

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01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: flooded areas, and in my limited time in being around

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: NASCAR and covering the Brickyard four hundred, both from a

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: television standpoint when it was at its absence apex to

1395
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 1: also being on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network broadcast

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: both in the pits and in turns. During the driving

1397
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: career of Greg Biffle, while I did not know him well,

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: I remember one of the early years of the Brickyard

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01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: when he had a sponsorship and a partnership with an

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01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: oil change corporation and was and did a big promotional

1401
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: thing where for all day long he provided I mean,

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01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he himself, but the company provided free

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: oil changes to anybody all day long and he was

1404
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: there and I interviewed him for that and he he

1405
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: was a really laid back in that I is. I mean,

1406
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: we don't know that I should speak of him posthumously,

1407
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,879
Speaker 1: but in that moment he was a super laid back interview,

1408
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: really fun guy and personable. And I remember that year

1409
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: in the race in the Brickyard he led several laps

1410
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: and was running up towards the front, And even though

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01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: it's not our job to do so, I remember kind

1412
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: of rooting for the guy because I'm like, man, he

1413
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: was just super cool. And you know, my good friend

1414
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: from high school and my then high school broadcast partner,

1415
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Adam Alexander, has worked with Greg Biffel and the NASCAR

1416
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: side of things, has always spoken very glowingly about him.

1417
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: So certainly the most important and best intended thoughts for

1418
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: whoever it was that was tragically on board that plane.

1419
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: And we will wait to find out more information, but

1420
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: that is a story that is developing as we speak here.

1421
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: There is news from the Colts Complex Matt Taylor going

1422
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: to join us coming up bottom of the two o'clock hour.

1423
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: But those that are in and those that are out

1424
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: in terms of practice is they now get set for

1425
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: in Indiana Knights game Monday night football against San Francisco.

1426
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: Will let you know who's in it as of right now,

1427
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: who's in and out next? So there are now and

1428
01:20:54,080 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm always cautious, and I don't mean that as because

1429
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: I know it's a different it is. We live in

1430
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: a different world in terms of news distribution, and there are,

1431
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: And so what I'm getting at is, I mean it

1432
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: as no disrespect to have hesitation when someone posts something

1433
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: on social media that you would assume would know and

1434
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: can confirm certain stories. But while there are people that

1435
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: have posted that, yes, in fact, confirming that Greg Biffel

1436
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: and his family were on the plane that has crashed,

1437
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: there is not an official from officials. When I say officials,

1438
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean like in TSB or those confirming who the

1439
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: victims were. But it would appear as though it would

1440
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:07,879
Speaker 1: appear as though Greg Biffle, his wife, and two children

1441
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: or at the very least one child, were on the

1442
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: plane that crashed in North Carolina, and officials there have

1443
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: said that it was fatalities and no survivors of the

1444
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: plane itself. So my guess would be that it will

1445
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: be And you know, in today's world, news does happen

1446
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: very quickly and get confirmed very quickly. Also, it can

1447
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: spread erroneously very quickly. That's why. And I apologize for

1448
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: being for walking around, you know, tiptoeing through it, but

1449
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: you do have to be careful in situations like that

1450
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: because sometimes you just never know when Sometimes when if

1451
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: there is an independent even though it looks like it

1452
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: is very credible someone close to Greg Biffle saying that

1453
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: Greg Biffle and his family were involved in a terrible

1454
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: plane crash in North Carolina, and again, the people that

1455
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: would be much closer to that situation can opine or

1456
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: spread or discuss. I guess I should say that the

1457
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: stories of goodwill about Greg Biffle well more than I

1458
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: only to say that as someone who is involved peripherally

1459
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: with the sport of auto racing and has been involved

1460
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: not intimately but pretty close to it within NASCAR on

1461
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: a number of occasions, I have never heard anything other

1462
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: than Greg Biffle being a really really good guy. And

1463
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: in my very limited experience, I've never heard anything other

1464
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: than Greg Biffle being a really really good guy. So

1465
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: that that is where things stand with that. As for

1466
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: the colts back on the practice field, and Bernard Ryman

1467
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: and Sauce Gardner are two that I was really interested in.

1468
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Eddie Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus. Finch was our boots

1469
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: on the ground over there, and he did shed some light,

1470
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: did he not on what he was able to see

1471
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: or learn from Shane Styke. And as to the availability

1472
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: of Sauce Gardner and Bernard Ryman.

1473
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: Those two will not practice at least today, but Shane

1474
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: Steiken said they are progressing well and.

1475
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 1: They do have an extra day obviously, right, So then

1476
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner is DeForest Buckner is back right on the

1477
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: practice field.

1478
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: I believe it was limited every day last week leading

1479
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: up to the Seattle game. So things are training in

1480
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 2: the right direction for to Forest Buckner to be playing

1481
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: against his former team.

1482
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's Philip Rivers is the starter,

1483
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: and Riley Leonard is back on the practice field and

1484
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: in that capacity, Shane Styken had said when it comes

1485
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers, like, look, Riley Leonard is good to go,

1486
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: he's cleared, but he has a great chance to learn.

1487
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: Essentially is where he went with that or how he

1488
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: said it. So Riley Leonard is the backup and Anthony

1489
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Richardson is kind of its own entity because what we

1490
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: know is that Anthony Richardson. Shane Steichen said that Anthony

1491
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Richardson was still having some limitation. I'll put it to

1492
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: you that way, limitation and with his vision. And Anthony

1493
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Richardson said, and someone pointed out to me, and it's

1494
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: a fair point, and it may well be the right point.

1495
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: But one of the things that was pointed out to

1496
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: me when we played the two clips of those two

1497
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: men earlier was, Hey, these are two people saying the

1498
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: exact same thing, just in different ways, in different wording.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's the case, and maybe I'm guilty of

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Speaker 1: jumping to something and determining prima surely that there's more

1501
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: there than is there. That is entirely possible. Now, Eddie,

1502
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: we played it earlier. Do you think, in fact there's

1503
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: more there than what's there. I will let you fester

1504
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 1: on that, and we'll let everybody else hear it, and

1505
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: we'll do it on the other side. Okay, several things

1506
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,480
Speaker 1: to get to here today on a very busy newsy Thursday.

1507
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: It's really funny about funny is the wrong word, I guess,

1508
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: but fascinating about doing this job, because there are days

1509
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: when you're in here and you just it's like you

1510
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: feel like you're treading water amidst like one of those

1511
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: wave pools. And then there's other days where it just

1512
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: there's just constant stuff going on. Sometimes, you know, not always.

1513
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's tragic, right, and situation of what appears to

1514
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: involve Greg Biffle at the very least. It involves a

1515
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: plane that he owns. One driver who apparently Greg Biffle's

1516
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: family was on the way to visit, has said that

1517
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: it was Greg Biffle and his family that was on board.

1518
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: But again, nothing is confirmed. But a plane crash in

1519
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina and fatalities involved in increased number now of

1520
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: statements that Greg Biffle is believed to have been on board,

1521
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: but that is still officially in an official capacity, unconfirmed

1522
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: at this point. Also, I don't know if anybody saw

1523
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: this before we get into Shane Steichen and the Colts News.

1524
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: It is not necessarily of local significance. But Will Wade

1525
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: is the head basketball coach at North Carolina State, and

1526
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: he you know, he's one that And I always get confused.

1527
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: I always get confused, like Morehead State, Murray State, McNeese State.

1528
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: I get those three confused. McNeice I believe is in Louisiana,

1529
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: and then Murray State and Morehead State. Murray is in Kentucky,

1530
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,799
Speaker 1: I believe, and Morehead State is Tennessee or vice versa.

1531
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 1: It's one of those two, right, But McNeice I believe

1532
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: is where Will Wade was right when he had the

1533
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: kid with the big jam box, wasn't that? Am I correct?

1534
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: I forget his name?

1535
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just transferred. By the way, did that kid

1536
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: back to that kid had transferred I believe.

1537
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Late Charles Louisiana Mciney State.

1538
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: And the jam box kid had gone, I believe with

1539
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: Will Wade to North Carolina State and then is now

1540
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: back at McNee State. But Will Wade was a guy

1541
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: that was at LSU has had a ton of success

1542
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint. There were allegations of impropriety at

1543
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: LSU that caused him to get terminated. He then went

1544
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: to McNeice, kind of revamped himself and is now at

1545
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: North Carolina State. Yesterday, and I'm paraphrasing. I mean, we

1546
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: could play the audio for you, but I'll just paraphrase it. Yesterday,

1547
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Will Wade, after a North Carolina State game and a loss,

1548
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: was asked about the performance of his team and was

1549
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: speaking about his disappointment in the team, and in doing so,

1550
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: he kind of made a snide comment along the lines

1551
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: of and almost damning the fact that they had a

1552
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: great grade point average and that they had a three

1553
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: point zero grade point average on the team and he's like, great,

1554
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: so what are we doing trying to raise kindergartners here

1555
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, I'm trying to win basketball games. And while

1556
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I understand in the moment coaches frustration et cetera, when

1557
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: you are within the umbrella and you are coaching for

1558
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: an entity, that still, no matter how flippantly people digest

1559
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: the term, when you are working and coaching underneath the

1560
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: umbrella of the National Collegiate Athletic Association the NCAA. And

1561
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 1: even though we now know with nil and quarterbacks getting

1562
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: three and a half million, and point guards you know,

1563
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: probably getting close to that, and et cetera. Even though

1564
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: we know this is in fact the G League for

1565
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: all intent and purposes, this is semi pro basketball. We

1566
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: all know that. But you are still underneath the umbrella,

1567
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:16,919
Speaker 1: at least for now, of the student athlete, the student athlete,

1568
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: not the employee athlete, the student athlete. And yes, it

1569
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: is now to the point where players are playing for

1570
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: a university because that university gets them the most money.

1571
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: And what Will Wade just did subconsciously was say the

1572
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 1: subconscious part consciously, and he said the quiet part out loud.

1573
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: And everyone has known it, but this is where we

1574
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: are now, and it's a whole new world of the wild,

1575
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: wild West. I mean, I'm old enough to remember. I'm

1576
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: old enough remember when there were question marks about having

1577
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: gambling lines in the back of the newspaper, because why

1578
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: did you have that when gambling was illegal everywhere? And

1579
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,879
Speaker 1: when it was you couldn't even whisper the possibility around

1580
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: a college athlete, let alone a pro athlete about gambling

1581
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: and whatever else can get them on record talking about

1582
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: it or anything like that, because there just could be

1583
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: no marriage between the two. And I'm old enough to remember.

1584
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying any of this is right. I'm not

1585
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: saying any of it was the better way by any stretch.

1586
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 1: But I remember when the thought of having teams professionally

1587
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas was unheard of, unheard of, and certainly

1588
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: you INLV when UNLV came here in the RCA Dome

1589
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one and they were beaten by Duke,

1590
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: and the point shaving photo or the alleged point shaving

1591
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: photo came out there shortly thereafter of their players in

1592
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: a hot tub with a gambling fixer. It was a

1593
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: FATA complea amongst people that there was going to be

1594
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: some sort of a bringdown of UNLV because that's why

1595
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have teams and lost wages, because gambling and

1596
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: sports have nothing, they should never be involved with one another.

1597
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: And now, obviously we'd like to tell you more about

1598
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: that on the fan Duel television app brought to you

1599
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: by DraftKings in the BET three six y five halftime show.

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01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 1: And that's all cool. I mean, I get it. People

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01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,759
Speaker 1: should in a free society and free country be allowed

1602
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: to exercise and do the things as they choose, so

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01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: long it's within their personal responsibility. I get it. But

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01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying along those same time frames was the

1605
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: discussion of student athletes and we can't have a college

1606
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: football playoff because it takes kids away from class for

1607
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: too long in playing games consecutively. Yet we have the

1608
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: CAAA Tournament, which wait for it, happens actually during semester,

1609
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: when the college football playoff happens during the semester breaks.

1610
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: But there was always this coded, you know, narrative that

1611
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: college basketball players and college football players were going to

1612
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: said schools for the education aspect of it, and they're

1613
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: getting free tuition and free books, and they're getting tutors

1614
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: and they're graduating. And yes, for the that is still

1615
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: true at a high number of schools, and absolutely there

1616
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: are thousands upon thousands of young players that thank goodness

1617
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: for that because that's getting them the opportunity to better

1618
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: their life via education without the financial restriction upon graduation

1619
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: that a lot of players have or a lot of

1620
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: people have, and it affords the opportunity for a lot

1621
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: of people that would otherwise not be able to do

1622
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: so to go to college and et cetera. And that's wonderful.

1623
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: And maybe we're talking about like the top one percent

1624
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: of athlete, but nonetheless, for a big time ACC coach

1625
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: to sit down and basically say, look, I'm supposed to

1626
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: be happy because my kids have good grades where they're

1627
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: not playing good basketball, it's ridiculous. They're not here for

1628
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: good grades, they're here as basketball players. That's basically what

1629
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: he said. And you know what, I don't even hate

1630
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: him for it because he said the long time quiet

1631
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: part really out loud with a megaphone, and then speaking

1632
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,560
Speaker 1: of the long time quiet part out loud without a megaphone.

1633
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 1: That takes us to the colts because I believe I

1634
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: believe what you see as a head coach, that's just

1635
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: over it, not in a personality way, just in a

1636
01:35:53,280 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 1: time to move on way. Anthony Richardson suffer an injury

1637
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately for Anthony Richardson that he had nothing to do with.

1638
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he was the one using the rubber

1639
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:12,520
Speaker 1: band for his muscle stretch, but he that was a

1640
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: horrible freak accident that left him with an orbital bone

1641
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: fracture in his eye, which is an awful thing to

1642
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: think about. And now that that bone has healed, and

1643
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: now that he's been cleared to return, that raised a

1644
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: question then of okay, does that mean he's going to

1645
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: be out on the field, And then Shane Steichen said, well, yeah,

1646
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: the eyes there, but there's also just the you know,

1647
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: we got to ramp up the physical activity to get

1648
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: him back into shape. And that's when Kevin Bowen said,

1649
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: or no, Joeli Ericson, excuse me. Joel Ericson asked the

1650
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: question of but wait a minute, you're saying that he

1651
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: is not meeting the standard because of the in and

1652
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: the time away on IR and he missed what four

1653
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: or five weeks, So for that reason, you are saying

1654
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: that he is not physically ready to be out on

1655
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: the field yet. The standard is forty four year old,

1656
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: slightly overweight guy that hasn't played in five years. So

1657
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: you're telling me a guy that is within five years

1658
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: removed of being a top five draft pick because of

1659
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: his physical attributes is now in a position where he's

1660
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: not able to live up to the standard of physical

1661
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: player that five years removed from throwing a pass in

1662
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think Shane Steichen in this case, I'm

1663
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: not going to say he needs media training. I like

1664
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: the guy. I like him a lot, but I think

1665
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 1: that he understandably is trying to be respectful of saying

1666
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: what he really wants to say. And we ran this

1667
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 1: through the Elixir yesterday. But when he was asked about

1668
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson today, listen to what Shane Stiken said in

1669
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: terms of Richardson having the eyebone healed but not being

1670
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: out for practice.

1671
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, like you get the clearance from the

1672
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,520
Speaker 7: bone structure, that was cleared obviously, but there was limitations

1673
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 7: with that, you know, with the vision that's healing. So

1674
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 7: he's working through that. Like I said, he's gonna have

1675
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 7: to manage it, I get him out on the practice

1676
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 7: field and.

1677
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: Go from there.

1678
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Okay, limitations with the vision that's healing here is Anthony Richardson.

1679
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, when asked about clarification on what it was

1680
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: that Shane Styken, had said, I feel normal.

1681
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 8: You know, I'm able to see, able to drive, walk around,

1682
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 8: I bum in to anything. So that was not really

1683
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 8: major limitations. You know, it's just a little different because

1684
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 8: of the impact that happened to my eye. But you know,

1685
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 8: most of its really the same. You know, I'm still

1686
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 8: able to move around the same and do everything I

1687
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 8: need to do, So that's not that bad.

1688
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, granted he did clarify with major limitations, implying that, yeah,

1689
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: there is some limitation, but if you can do everything normally,

1690
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: he can drive, you can do everything else. It sounded

1691
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: like it is a hesitation of being worried about getting

1692
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: hit in that area, and I totally understand that. But Eddie,

1693
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: you tell me, does this sound like two people saying

1694
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 1: the same thing but just saying it in different ways,

1695
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: or is this one guy that is basically just trying

1696
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: to essentially say, look, I don't want the guy to

1697
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: play I'm looking for any reason to play anyone other

1698
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: than him.

1699
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 2: Can it be both? Can it be both things? Can

1700
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 2: they both be saying the same thing, but the way

1701
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: that Shane Steikeen says it makes it appear in the

1702
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 2: way that you just said there. But at the same time,

1703
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is saying it in a different way that's

1704
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 2: much lighthearted in the aspect thinking, Hey, yeah, I'm fine,

1705
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 2: it's not that bad. As we talked about earlier. You know,

1706
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: he is one monitor after the season of a team

1707
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 2: that is in need of a quarterback that is kind

1708
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 2: of in a rebuilding phase, and hey, let's give this

1709
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 2: guy another opportunity. We know he's got all the traits.

1710
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 2: Can he work in our system with a fresh start?

1711
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1712
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 2: I mean that's so like. Could they both be right?

1713
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: Could they both be saying the same thing just in

1714
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 2: different tones?

1715
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I think so? I mean, I think I do think

1716
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: Shane Steyken, though, is out on him. I just I'm

1717
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: going to I'm going to stick by Eddie. The fact

1718
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: of I feel like the it seems to me like

1719
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken is ready to has just come to the

1720
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: conclusion that Anthony Richardson does not play another meaningful snap

1721
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 1: in Indy now meaningful and if you're Anthony Richardson, you

1722
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: want to make sure that no one. If you're Anthony Richardson,

1723
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: it's in your best interest to say, look, I'm healthy

1724
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: as as can be, because he probably has to know

1725
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: that he's also still in play for other teams to

1726
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 1: HP perhaps have an interest.

1727
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 2: In him because it looks, you know, based off depending

1728
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 2: on where you look at, the Colts just have to

1729
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: win two of these final three games, right, and if

1730
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: they lose against you know, San Francisco on Monday night,

1731
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 2: then is it Houston or Jacksonville? Likeause, I think it's Jacksonville.

1732
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 1: If you fall, it's San Francisco, Jacksonville, Houston.

1733
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you follow the Jacksonville then you're eliminated.

1734
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: So then you would just what go to Riley Leonard

1735
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 2: for that final game, like, hey, let's see what he's

1736
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: got full week of preparation as a starter. The only

1737
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 2: other time he entered you know, meaningful snaps was because

1738
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 2: you know, Daniel Jones exited early.

1739
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: Now the I think the best thing that was said

1740
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: out of Alexander, by the way, going to join us

1741
01:41:55,360 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: just two or three minutes from right now, This Greg

1742
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Biffel situation. In terms of the situation with Anthony Richardson

1743
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: and Shane Steikeen, this is such a fabulous point made

1744
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 1: on the ex post Twitter from DJ Scott. Shane Steikeen

1745
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: is the strict, serious dad who can only relate to

1746
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: the straight a oldest child and doesn't have a clue

1747
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: what to do with the wild, free spirit younger one.

1748
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: And yes, I do think it's personal. That is a

1749
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 1: perfect way putting it. Shane Steiken just connects to and

1750
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: relates to Daniel Jones and Shane Steiken, I think is

1751
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the same relatability and just can't kind

1752
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: of constantly he feels a frustration of the fact that

1753
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: he's not been able to completely get through if that

1754
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: makes sense to Anthony Richardson now in the Joba House

1755
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line Adam Alexander, of course, I

1756
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: think everybody knows. Longtime brotherlike friend of mine and NASCAR

1757
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: announcer NASCAR on the CW Prime Video as well, also

1758
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: has worked in a number of different capacities for organizations

1759
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: covering NASCAR and in that capacity working with alongside interviewing,

1760
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: et cetera. Greg Biffle now I want to be very clear.

1761
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: There are reports. Of course, what we know at this

1762
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: point is this a plane that is owned by Greg

1763
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Biffle's Aviation corporation crashed in North Carolina this morning and

1764
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: officials have said there were fatalities on board. While it

1765
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: is not officially confirmed that that was Greg Biffle and

1766
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: his family, there are those that are saying that that

1767
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: is the case. But Adam, working with NASCAR, wanted to

1768
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: get you on Adam, I appreciate it under what is

1769
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: obviously a still old developing story and one that we

1770
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know confirmation on. But is there anything that I

1771
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: did not mention there that in North Carolina you are

1772
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: hearing that I did not cover. No, I think you

1773
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: said it correctly.

1774
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 4: There are those that are you know, sending you know,

1775
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: condolences to Greg's family, and while that would certainly be

1776
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 4: what you want to do in these circumstances, there have

1777
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 4: been no official reports. There was a press conference I

1778
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 4: would say in the last ninety minutes a couple of

1779
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 4: hours something like that that walked through the details of

1780
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 4: you know, the planes took off from Statesville, it returned,

1781
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 4: you know, obviously there was some sort of an issue

1782
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 4: and then and then the plane crash occurred when they

1783
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,440
Speaker 4: were returning to the airport, and you said there were fatalities,

1784
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 4: but those names have not been officially released.

1785
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: Did they mention in it, Adam, And if you didn't hear,

1786
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's but to your recollection or understanding, did

1787
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: they mention the possibility that there would have been any

1788
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: survivors of said craft?

1789
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 4: They did not mention that. The number, the last number

1790
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 4: that I heard and read in the reports were that

1791
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: there were five fatalities, and so, you know, and I

1792
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 4: don't know how much you know, they covered that side

1793
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 4: of it in the you know, the press conference, but

1794
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 4: of course you know, anytime you know, plane takes off,

1795
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 4: there's a list of passengers in the manifold, and I

1796
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 4: don't know how that differentiates on those local on those

1797
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 4: private aircrafts in comparison to commercial aircraft. But I know

1798
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 4: that they have checks and balances that they go through

1799
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 4: as well, and so I'm sure there's a record of

1800
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 4: you know, how many people were on board and all

1801
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 4: of that, but I don't know how much of that

1802
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 4: has been released, and I'm not aware of all those

1803
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 4: exact details.

1804
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: Have you worked, Adam with Greg Biffel directly I have.

1805
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 4: You know, I worked at the first rate I ever

1806
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 4: did with MRN Radio in the fall of two thousand.

1807
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 4: That night, Gregg clinched his first Truck Series championship and

1808
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 4: that was kind of the beginning of him becoming one

1809
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 4: of NASCAR's great stars. And you know, the last time

1810
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 4: that I've visited with Greg was about a year ago

1811
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 4: at NASCAR's awards ceremony wrapping up the twenty twenty four season,

1812
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 4: and Greg was recognized with the Myers Brothers Award, which

1813
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 4: is given to someone who is a great contributor to

1814
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 4: their community from the NASCAR world, and it was given

1815
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: to Greg because Greg, you know, who has always been

1816
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 4: noted for his you know, aviation side of things. You know,

1817
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:49,759
Speaker 4: utilized his helicopter pilot's license to deliver food and goods

1818
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 4: and help those that were negatively impacted by Hurricane Halleen.

1819
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 4: And he didn't just jump in and help, he really

1820
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 4: led the movement. And so it was that night that

1821
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 4: you know, Greg was recognized for, you know, his heroic

1822
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 4: acts and his selfless acts through a very difficult time

1823
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 4: in the North Carolina Tennessee region. And that's probably the

1824
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 4: last time that Greg and I spent time together, but

1825
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 4: obviously I was around and followed his career when he

1826
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 4: was on track winning a truck title in c Sinity Championship,

1827
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 4: and then you know the years that he was competing

1828
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 4: at NASCAR's top level and winning races.

1829
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously you know one of those guys that

1830
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: Adam Greg Miville as a driver was one that and

1831
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: he did not win a Cup championship, right, But that's

1832
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: not to say that there weren't years that he was

1833
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 1: in contention and at heading down the home stretch of

1834
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: the seasons, right.

1835
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I think he had nineteen Cup victories, never

1836
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 4: won a championship at the top level, but knocked on

1837
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 4: the door, was in the hunt, certainly in the prime

1838
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 4: of his career, was considered one of the best drivers

1839
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 4: in NASCAR, was named, you know, one of the top

1840
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 4: seventy five drivers, has been a finalist for the Hall

1841
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 4: of Fame, and so yeah, very well respected in someone

1842
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 4: that has noted is one of the best to ever

1843
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 4: do it.

1844
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: Adam, to your knowledge, did Greg Biffle. This is inconsequential,

1845
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I realized I'm not, but I'm just strictly out of curiosity.

1846
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I know that he had a vast aviation background and

1847
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: interest as you mentioned, and was well noted for his

1848
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,799
Speaker 1: heroic efforts and helping out folks using his helicopters after

1849
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: that hurricane. Was he himself an airline pilot or an

1850
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: aircraft pilot?

1851
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't know that. I you know, I'm not positive

1852
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 4: on that side. I was reminded last year when he

1853
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 4: got so involved and taking his helicopter around and helping

1854
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 4: everyone after Hurricane Aleen. I was reminded, you know, about

1855
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 4: his fondness for aviation, and you know how much time

1856
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 4: you know he spent on that side. But I don't know,

1857
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 4: you know where he fit into that as far as

1858
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 4: all the license and he had when when it comes

1859
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 4: to the various aircrafts.

1860
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 1: So Greg Biffle again, it's safe to say, Adam, and

1861
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it in current state because we don't

1862
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 1: have any confirmation here, but Greg Biffle talented race car driver,

1863
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: personable guy from what I could know of him, pretty

1864
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: humble dude, right and just overall you know, a people first,

1865
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: humanitarian guy. Safe to say no doubt.

1866
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you know he was a true competitor and

1867
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 4: you can you know, you can go to YouTube and

1868
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 4: you can find clips to find out what a true

1869
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 4: competitor he was, but always handled his success with tremendous

1870
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 4: humility and grace. And as he had retired, even though

1871
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 4: he was no longer someone that you saw at the

1872
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 4: track week to week and the younger fans probably didn't

1873
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 4: realize what he had meant to the sport at one time,

1874
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 4: he continued to use the platform that he had created

1875
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 4: as a very successful race car driver to give and

1876
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 4: to help out others. So there's no no question he's

1877
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 4: a tremendous guy and and you know one that was

1878
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 4: always ready to give it back and help in any

1879
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 4: way possible.

1880
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Well, Adam, I appreciate you coming on in, you know

1881
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 1: literally like spontaneous moment when I reached out to you

1882
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,799
Speaker 1: about this. We'll hope for the best on the story

1883
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: itself and wait for confirmation as to what happened. The

1884
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,600
Speaker 1: reality is whether or not it was Greg Biffel. You know,

1885
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: there was a loss of life and you never want

1886
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 1: to see that in any situation or story, and certainly

1887
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: thoughts with those that were impacted by it. Adam short notice,

1888
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I realize appreciate it. Happy Holidays by all means, and

1889
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to your dad, the rest of your family

1890
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and everybody down there.

1891
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 6: Thank thank you.

1892
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Jake Adam Alexander joining me on the Java House Peel

1893
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 1: and Poor Guest line. All right, we'll take a break.

1894
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: The helium factor started to kick in there a little bit,

1895
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: and we'll reset the helium tank and then Matt Taylor,

1896
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: the Voice of the Colts, will join us and we'll

1897
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: do so on the other side. Yes, okay, so let's

1898
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: find out what's going on out at West fifty sixth.

1899
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,839
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor is is the voice of the Indianapolis Colts.

1900
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Joins us now on the Java House, Peel and Poor

1901
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: Guest line. Courtesy of Shelby Materials. Matt, let's get right

1902
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 1: to this. Bernard Ryman, Sauce Gardner. Those guys are not

1903
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: on the practice field today, but everything's kind of staggered

1904
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: today because it's a Monday night game. Is there still

1905
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: possibility that those guys could get out before we get

1906
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:22,520
Speaker 1: to the game with San Francisco.

1907
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So think of it like today is a Thursday,

1908
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 4: but in NFL terms, when you're playing on Monday, it's

1909
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 4: kind of like a Wednesday. It's like the first day

1910
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 4: of practice and guys getting on the field again following

1911
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 4: the last week's game against Seattle. So it's not all

1912
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 4: that uncommon for a guy, you know, to sit on

1913
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 4: Wednesday and then come back to practice on a normal

1914
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 4: Thursday or Friday, in this case, Friday Saturday leading into

1915
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 4: Monday night football. So you know, I don't think that

1916
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 4: the bells and whistles and alarms are going off just yet,

1917
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 4: but we'll see. We'll have more of a better indication

1918
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 4: tomorrow and those status because tomorrow, even though it's Friday,

1919
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 4: it's like a Thursday practice.

1920
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: And we at this point it appears clear Shane Sdeykeen,

1921
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 1: And you tell me if I'm paraphrasing or Shane Steykeen

1922
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: said it out right. Philip Rivers is starting Monday night,

1923
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: right he is?

1924
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 4: Yep, And I get the indication that Philip is probably

1925
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 4: going to be their guy the rest of the season.

1926
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Matt, the question I have there is this Seattle I

1927
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: thought personally, and listen, you know you're up there with

1928
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view of it all, So feel free

1929
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: to either fill in holes here or flat out tell

1930
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: me no, that's not really how it worked, but it

1931
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: seemed to me in that game against Seattle, did Seattle

1932
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: spent say the first quarter to quarter and a half

1933
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of feeling out exactly what the Colts offense was

1934
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: going to be under Philip Rivers, and then they adjusted

1935
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: what they needed to do to constantly spy on Jonathan

1936
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: Taylor and then just kind of keep Philip Rivers in

1937
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: check because they knew that he was limited in terms

1938
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 1: of the long field velocity. And my concern would be

1939
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 1: that San Francisco now has that blueprint and pushes all

1940
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: in on that. Is that fair?

1941
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what you saw throughout the course of

1942
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 4: that game was, I mean, Seattle's got a really good

1943
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 4: defensive line anyway, so they were still getting pressure and

1944
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 4: still kind of impacting the game with they're front four.

1945
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 4: But what you saw them do throughout the course of

1946
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 4: that game or kind of adjust to was they're not

1947
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:29,839
Speaker 4: going to blitz Philip Rivers.

1948
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 6: They're going to get after.

1949
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 4: Him with his front with their front four, but they're

1950
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 4: going to play really tight on the outside and make

1951
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 4: those throwing windows, you know, in the angles, pretty pretty

1952
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: sharp and hard to fit the football into. So that's

1953
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 4: kind of what happened is, you know, they would they

1954
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 4: were kind of foolish and and blitzing him early in

1955
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 4: the game, and then he would throw it to where

1956
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 4: the blitz was coming from. And that's how the Colts

1957
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 4: were getting some first downs and staying on schedule. And

1958
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 4: you know, that's the thing about you know that that

1959
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 4: game plan this week is you know, I know it

1960
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 4: wasn't aesthetically awesome to watch, but it almost worked considering

1961
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 4: how well the defense played.

1962
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:11,680
Speaker 6: And you go back and you.

1963
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 4: Kind of look at the box score or like the

1964
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 4: game notes, like the game book, if you will. I mean,

1965
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 4: the Colts said they had nine persons in that game

1966
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 4: prior to the last possession where they turn it over,

1967
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 4: and they only had the one play on the interception,

1968
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 4: but take that one out. They had nine drives for

1969
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 4: the game and they reached plus territory in six of them.

1970
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 4: And so that's how I think, you know the forty

1971
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 4: nine ers are going to play going forward, is you know,

1972
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 4: they're not going to probably send a lot of pressure

1973
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 4: on Philip Rivers, but they're going to play pretty tight

1974
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 4: on the outside and make it tough, you know, based

1975
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 4: on his skill set and his age at forty four

1976
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 4: and not being really mobile. They're going to be, you know,

1977
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:56,839
Speaker 4: they're going to I think, be pretty concentrated on shutting

1978
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 4: down the free releases on the outside from guy like

1979
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 4: Pierce and Pittman and take away the deep ball and

1980
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 4: again make those throwing angles pretty sharp for him to

1981
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 4: fit the ball into at a line of scrimmage.

1982
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: I was intrigued by and a little bit impressed by

1983
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Matt the use of a mir Abdullah out of the

1984
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 1: backfield and just kind of the incorporation of that wrinkle. Yeah,

1985
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: is that because here's a guy that finally they found

1986
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe some looks that they liked or was it more

1987
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: so Philip Rivers has always had that kind of an

1988
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: out of the backfield kind of guy, and it fit

1989
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: with what they wanted to do and was a comfort

1990
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: zone for Rivers, and therefore Abdullah was able to answer

1991
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: that bell. Yeah.

1992
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 4: I mean Darren Sproles, Niam Hines when he was here

1993
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 4: with Philip Rivers in twenty twenty, I mean, he loves

1994
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 4: throwing the backs out of the backfield and he knows

1995
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 4: exactly where those guys are going to be. And if

1996
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 4: you play with Philip Rivers as a running back, you

1997
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 4: got to be where you're supposed to be, because he

1998
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 4: knows where you're supposed to be, probably better than you do,

1999
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 4: and so you know, that's always a safety valve for him,

2000
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 4: especially with you know how the Seahawk were playing that game.

2001
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 4: Get the ball out quick, get it out on time,

2002
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 4: and let guys with better athleticism than Philip Rivers go

2003
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 4: out there and make plays and get yards after the catch.

2004
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 4: I mean that jerk router that that's sort of like

2005
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, hard angle route that that they ran with

2006
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 4: some mere Abdullah was really productive. They probably ran it

2007
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 4: three or four times and they hit it h for

2008
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 4: some big yards. And so that's what I think you're

2009
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 4: gonna see a lot of you know, check down to

2010
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 4: the tailor checkdowns over the middle to Abdullah. I love

2011
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 4: what they did on that quick screen on the first

2012
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 4: completion of the game. Uh, that wide receiver screen Pittman.

2013
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 4: I mean, these are all kind of like extensions of

2014
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 4: the running game where you know, if you hit them,

2015
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 4: that's that's good. And you know if they go for

2016
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 4: if they break for you know, big yards after the catch,

2017
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 4: your yards after contact, that's that's great. You take those,

2018
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 4: but those are those are you know, implemented to keep

2019
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 4: you on the field and set you up on you know,

2020
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 4: third and three, third and four.

2021
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

2022
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it goes without saying. Third long for

2023
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers is not a recipe for success, especially when

2024
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 4: you're you know, kind of stacked up in your own territory,

2025
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 4: which they were a couple of times at the.

2026
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 6: Beginning of that game.

2027
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 4: But you know, inevitably, they're going to have to be

2028
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 4: a little bit more you know, for whatever, for lack

2029
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 4: of a better term, they're gonna have to be more open.

2030
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to be they're gonna have to open

2031
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 4: the playbook and be a little bit more aggressive in

2032
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 4: their game plan. I mean, I think, you know, it

2033
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 4: sounds cliche, but there's always a way to win every game.

2034
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 4: And the way they approach that game in Seattle on

2035
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 4: the road against that defense with the crowd, I thought

2036
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: was the appropriate way to try to win that game.

2037
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 4: And again, the defense allowed you to stay in that game.

2038
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 4: But inevitably, you know, you're just shoot two hundred and

2039
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 4: fifteen yards of offense and just a hair over sixty

2040
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 4: of that comes in the second half and only four

2041
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 4: first downs past halftime. That's just not a winning formula.

2042
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 4: Everybody knows that. So we're going to see if Phil

2043
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers can implement more of the you know, the

2044
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 4: intermediate part of the passing game and get guys like

2045
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 4: Peterson Pittman a little bit more involved.

2046
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie. So we haven't gotten totally into

2047
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: helium tank category. But but it sounds like Matt's taking

2048
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 1: a couple of hits off the balloon of it, right,

2049
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: isn't that right? Okay, Matt, we working through some of

2050
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: the kings here with the move. Occasionally it will kind

2051
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: of speed up somebody's voice. So at the end and

2052
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a team player in this. We've gotten now,

2053
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 1: let's see, we've got Joela Ericson, We've got Don Fisher,

2054
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: now not Don Fisher, Stephanie White, Joela Ericson, Ralph Reef.

2055
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: We've had a couple of really good follow the yellowpic

2056
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: roads and we're gonna get one from you on the

2057
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: way out and then kind of judge you versus others

2058
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 1: to see how good a member you are of the

2059
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: Lollipop Guild.

2060
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 10: Okay, I said, like Alvin and the Chipmunks, Yeah, a

2061
01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 10: little bit like Theodore, a little.

2062
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Bit Can you tell me that you want a hula hoop?

2063
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: Can I just get you saying he'd like a hula

2064
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: hoop for Christmas? Yeah?

2065
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 4: Chriss, Chris, come on now, I can.

2066
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 6: Jive with you, all right.

2067
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: The laugh is strong as well. But while we have

2068
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: you before we go full helium here, what do we

2069
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: know about San Francisco and just maybe what Shane Stikeen

2070
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: has said in terms of the challenge they create or

2071
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: the areas that the Colts can exploit?

2072
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean defensively, you know, I think there's some

2073
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 4: remnants of the Gus Bradley approach and his methodology on defense.

2074
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you kind of look at them on the

2075
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 4: big picture on that side of the ball. I mean,

2076
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 4: first of all, they've just been ransacked with injury with

2077
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 4: Nick Bosa out, and then you've got the injury to

2078
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 4: Fred Warner. They're all Pro linebacker. Those guys are out

2079
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 4: for this season, and it's not really I mean, unless

2080
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 4: you live in the Bay Area and you're a die

2081
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 4: hard forty nine Ers fan, there's not a lot of

2082
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 4: household names left on that side of the football. But collectively,

2083
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, they're kind of middle of the pack defensively,

2084
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 4: you know, right in line with the Gus Bradley era

2085
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 4: here with the Colts. They give up a high completion percentage,

2086
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 4: right around sixty eight percent. So you know, they don't

2087
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 4: do a lot of things great they don't do They're

2088
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 4: not deficient in a ton of areas. But the one

2089
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 4: area that they really just don't get a whole lot

2090
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 4: of production from is their pass rush. They only have

2091
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 4: sixteen sacks as a team through the first fourteen games

2092
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 4: of the season. I think they only have three guys

2093
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 4: on the roster right now that have more than three

2094
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 4: sacks on the year. And then again, I think it

2095
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 4: probably goes without saying. On offense, the trio of Rock

2096
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 4: Perdy and Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle, I mean, those

2097
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 4: guys kind of drive the ship on that side of

2098
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 4: the ball. You know, wide receivers are involved, but not greatly.

2099
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 4: It's more so the Kittle and McCaffrey show.

2100
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 6: And then just kind of a little bit of a sidebar.

2101
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun with Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey

2102
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 4: on the same game field for the first time in

2103
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 4: their careers, right, It's gonna be the first time they

2104
02:00:57,240 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 4: actually play quote unquote against each other, even though you

2105
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 4: know both guys are on an offense. You get what

2106
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But these guys are both top three in

2107
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 4: scrimmage yards this year. They're each of them are over

2108
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:13,919
Speaker 4: two and fifty carries on the season, so heavy workload

2109
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 4: for their respective running backs in this game. And then

2110
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 4: with McCaffrey, as we know too, he's one of the

2111
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 4: best pass catching backs out of the backfield since he

2112
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 4: broke in the league in twenty seventeen. So you got

2113
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 4: to know where McCaffrey is, number twenty three, and then

2114
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 4: keep an eye out for George Kittle because those two

2115
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 4: guys are basically the stars of their show on offense.

2116
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Matt on the way out, and I'll give you

2117
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: your pick here. You can give me a line from Alvin.

2118
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 1: You can give me a we represent the Lollipop Guild,

2119
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 1: or you can give me a follow of the Yellow

2120
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 1: Brick Road. Which one would you like?

2121
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 4: Well, you said the other guys went went with with

2122
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 4: the Wizard of Oz, So give me Alvin, give me

2123
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 4: give me an alvinism.

2124
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 1: I guess you would just say that you want a

2125
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 1: hula hoop for Christmas?

2126
02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah?

2127
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, how about this you simply say, uh,

2128
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:08,480
Speaker 1: I just want too but you got there, you go

2129
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 1: and just in your normal voice. You don't need to

2130
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 1: albanize it. The ur elixer does it for you.

2131
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna piss off Dave Seville real quick and

2132
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 4: get everybody riled up here so me I want all.

2133
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Right, Matt enjoy of course, you know we got a

2134
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 1: Monday show to do as well, and then Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: It will be the Indiana Night's version of the Colts

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Speaker 1: uniforms and the San Francisco forty nine ers. Appreciate it, Matt,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 4: That was not on my bucket list today or my

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Speaker 4: beingo gitars.

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Speaker 2: I don't even.

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Speaker 6: A day in the life in this show.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: Holy smoke.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Eddie, Eddie, is I think on the floor now, Eddie,

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02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Eddy know what's going on? Eddie higher Eddie. Eddie has

2146
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 1: been working doing the Christmas Light Show and he's this

2147
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: is a new experience for him. Eddie was do you

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02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,879
Speaker 1: not have do you have the ralph free from yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 1: I don't hockey anywhere because we could compare. Now we're

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Speaker 1: accumulating the best of and Eddie, by the way, before

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Speaker 1: we get to the crossover with JMV next, brought to

2153
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Speaker 1: you by the good guys that Love Heating and Air.

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02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a contention, a little

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02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 1: bit of a bone to pick with Eddie Garrison. Well,

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Speaker 1: i'll explain it next. What you know, what's interesting, This

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Speaker 1: is actually three guys we just got singing live right

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Speaker 1: now on the phone line right.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Eddie. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: I have a bone to pick with you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: those that are listening on the app, I am told

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02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 1: that if you push play a second time that it

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Speaker 1: will reset itself and take care of the issues of

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Speaker 1: the streaming on the app if you hit play a

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Speaker 1: second time. And the good news is you might be

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Speaker 1: hearing me say that, like nine times, there's been no

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Speaker 1: mention by Eddie Garrison. Let me explain and give a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a background here before we get to

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Speaker 1: the crossover with JMV. Brought to you by Love Heating

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Speaker 1: and Air and lovedash HVAC dot Com. On my way

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Speaker 1: in today, I already had three missed calls from Eddie

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02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 1: from this morning. I thought he he didn't leave a

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Speaker 1: voicemail and he didn't text me, it must not be urgent.

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02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: Then he called and I answered, and you asked me

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02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 1: to stop and pick you up something on the way in,

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Speaker 1: which was not a big deal, right right, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to guess like seventy nine cents is what I paid.

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02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 1: You needed some cough drops, although I haven't heard you coughs,

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02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: so you must be doing okay.

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02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 2: I've been doing fine ya.

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Speaker 1: But I I faced the cough drops on top of

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02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 1: a gift that was left, and you now are in

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02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:12,320
Speaker 1: the same category as one Joel A. Erickson. And yet

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Speaker 1: there was no mention of it, no recognition of it,

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02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe you didn't get it. And then

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02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: I walked past your cubicle and lo and behold, I

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02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: see the gift sitting right there were acknowledging and representing that. Yes,

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02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 1: in fact, you saw claimed and picked up said gift,

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Speaker 1: what's on my desk and took it to your work area.

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Speaker 2: What's on my desk?

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Speaker 1: The fairy paid you a visit.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that they were on it.

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02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, the beer faery that stopped by mister Erickson's

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Speaker 1: house actually asked me when asking and confirming for Joel

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Speaker 1: Erickson's address if there was anybody else. Beer Fairy had

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Speaker 1: a surplus shipment, and I said, you know what, Eddie

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Speaker 1: Garrison could use a drop off from the beer ferry.

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Speaker 1: After I ran into the conson bureau of the beer

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Speaker 1: Faery and yet no mention of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jake, if it was dropped off in the studio

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Speaker 2: per guidelines, it was not supposed to be in here,

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02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 2: so there's a chance that somebody moved it from the

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Speaker 2: studio to my desk and I have not been to

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Speaker 2: my desk.

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Speaker 1: It is unopened.

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02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 2: Well are they bottled or are they canned?

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Speaker 1: Bottled?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Unopened?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: JMV is out on remote?

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Speaker 4: Do we have?

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Speaker 8: John?

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Speaker 1: John joins us as he is out and about jamb

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Speaker 1: we find you where today?

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Speaker 6: Do I sound good right now? Jake? Give me the

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Speaker 6: evaluation of my voice? Yeah? I sound good?

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Speaker 4: You do?

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Because it doesn't matter how you guys sound to me,

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02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 10: because it is not becoming. But as long as I

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Speaker 10: sound good to you guys, that's all that matters. Right,

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Speaker 10: And that's that matters.

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Speaker 6: You sound like.

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Speaker 4: Me.

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Speaker 10: Let me go ahead and do it. Check baby, check baby,

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Speaker 10: one two three. I'm gon to do my rump shaker

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Speaker 10: for you right here to make sure we're all.

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Speaker 6: Good to go. Do I sound good? Chess baby check

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02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 6: baby one, two three will be allowed good.

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Speaker 1: Zoom zoom zoom.

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Speaker 10: Right, I'm gonna that's a Rumpshaker Coaches Tavern, Downtown, Leslie

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Speaker 10: Bourbon Locks, lendizilte Key the shots, Jake.

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Speaker 6: We are doing week sixteen.

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Speaker 10: And I love what you brought up regarding Richardson Senior

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02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 10: and Shane Stike and not being on the page whatsoever.

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Speaker 10: If there's nothing more appropriate of the Colts over the years,

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Speaker 10: it's that.

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Speaker 1: I do today because John, and I'm the first to admit,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that I'm that I'm

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Speaker 1: reading that correctly.

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Speaker 10: I think that they I think that they want to

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Speaker 10: squash any any thought that he is going to participate

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Speaker 10: anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 6: I think that he wants to make sure that everybody

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Speaker 6: thinks he's not a big wooz.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 6: That's what That's it. I mean, I mean to put

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Speaker 6: it bluntly, that's what I think.

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Speaker 10: And in the process, you know, completely mishandled stuff per usual,

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Speaker 10: which really that's the only consistence thing this organization has

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Speaker 10: done for a while is mishandled nearly everything.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: There is very little question about that. Pacers next tonight

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Speaker 1: Coaches is the perfect spot to see John and of

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Speaker 1: course enjoyed the program before you head over for the

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Speaker 1: game tonight at Gambridge Field House and again seven thirty

2261
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Speaker 1: till nine thirty tonight. I'll be at night Owl's in

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02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:26,840
Speaker 1: Beach Grove as part of our event with Mick Ultra.

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Speaker 1: Would love to see you there as well, so you

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02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: can go see John. Then come down to Beach Grove watch.

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02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: The Game's gonna be awesome and J ANDV will get

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Speaker 1: things underway and kicked off for you coming up next

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Speaker 1: from Coaches. Coaches is like a home away from home.

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Speaker 1: John love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, brother, I love it. Tommy S and

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Speaker 6: I and Brent.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna fire things up and yeah, lead everybody down

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02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 10: to this Pacer game later on tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we will do that. We will send

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02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 1: it out to John shortly for that and he will

2275
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 1: carry you home Pacers nixt tonight. We will talk about

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02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 1: it tomorrow and we will do so promptly at noon.

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02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 1: My thanks again to Adam Alexander. In a tough situation

2278
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 1: in the developing story with Greg Biffle. Also to David

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02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 1: Woods for joining me on the program today, Tony East,

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02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor as well. Back with you at noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you for listening to the Quarrying Company