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Speaker 5: Welcome to Dear Future Wifey podcast, My Homebie Kreeb and

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Speaker 5: Sandy Virgo.

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Speaker 4: Was talking about positive positive.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So because he was going through a process, he couldn't.

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Speaker 4: What difference.

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Speaker 2: It's five years?

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Speaker 3: No, but we were He was twenty and I was

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Speaker 5: Age in your mind? Did you even have that in

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Speaker 3: So, just by people that I dated prior they were

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Speaker 3: He appeared to be very professional and older and mature,

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Speaker 2: So we were just friends for a whole year before.

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Speaker 5: Oh so yeah, yeah, like it was a long time.

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Speaker 4: For a year.

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Speaker 2: It was honestly me.

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Speaker 3: I was I remember googling older with like Gabriel Union

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Speaker 1: Was trying to find some trying to put together we're.

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Speaker 3: The best friends. Every every night. I just he was

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Speaker 1: Our age is just don't even matter flip.

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Speaker 2: Because now I'm his age.

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Speaker 1: He's right, Yeah, yeah, people people think. People think she's

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that she was older than you. That's

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Speaker 5: Were y'all dating other people?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I was?

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Speaker 5: And then how did you feel when you heard her

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Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, what that got to do

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, I understand you're going

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Speaker 6: through your dating phase. I understand I ain't nothing serious.

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Speaker 5: You know, look, yeah she wanted to say her name, but.

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Speaker 3: You know, she's like, but honestly, there was no We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was too young. He needed to go through life.

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Speaker 3: And I learned so much from him, honestly, even in

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Speaker 6: I think I kind of loved that she that she

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Speaker 1: No? Could you a little jealous?

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Speaker 4: You said you guys was catching feelings?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 3: For sure. I think there's it's just natural if you

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Speaker 3: I stud at that point. It wasn't until we got

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Speaker 1: A Christian.

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Speaker 4: Relationship with you?

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Speaker 1: What do you believe in? Karan? What was you believing

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Speaker 5: That you know, you will never out loud with your faith, right,

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Speaker 5: It's just kind of like what did you believe in

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Speaker 1: Right, No, I was, I was. I was a Christian.

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Speaker 6: I mean still am, but like right, it was crazy,

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Speaker 2: You didn't go to church, you didn't have the church.

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Speaker 6: It was more so like, uh more, I think it

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Speaker 1: It was. It wasn't like what are you actually believe in?

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Speaker 1: What is your faith? Belief? You know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: So you said a lust of situation.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, y'all friends with benefits? No, No, not.

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Speaker 3: Really, no, No, this was I think when we started

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Speaker 3: I know I liked him, I just didn't envision him

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Speaker 5: So you as you was focused on a husband during

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Speaker 5: that time in twenty five, you were like, I want

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Speaker 3: Because I was like about to get my master's degree.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it goes away.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just we just are our minds are just really

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Speaker 1: So you're talking marriage.

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Speaker 5: You were talking marriage at twenty one. I know you

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Speaker 1: On marriage at some point. For sure.

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Speaker 6: I was like, you don't want it to get married.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I want to get married by twenty five. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Twenty five, twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did anybody tell y'all y'all get married to young?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I was older, so no, Well I mean him, Ye

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Speaker 1: That's that's the thing too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of people think I'm older than what

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Speaker 5: So you're thirty two, at thirty one, thirty two, you're

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Speaker 4: You rushing this.

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Speaker 6: I was like, look, I need to move out. Like yeah, y'all, y'all,

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Speaker 6: this is taking too long that.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the funniest stories I ever heard. He

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Speaker 6: I packed up all my toys and my goat and

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Speaker 5: We'll stress you out at that age that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think I was just just older mom beyond my ears.

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Speaker 6: He was done. I was like, look, I love y'all,

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Speaker 6: but I gotta go. Yeah, hey, man, time what time

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Speaker 6: college starts? You know where you're going Korean college? I

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Speaker 4: Said, I'm tired of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So they so they were used to you always being

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Speaker 3: You know, all my friends loved him, and of course

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Speaker 3: of patient immigrants. Yeah, so I was home like my

449
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: parents always took care of me, even though I had

450
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: a lot on my dreams. I had my education, but

451
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 3: I was more sheltered than he was. He definitely had

452
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 3: more experience at being outside of the house and having

453
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 3: those things.

454
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 5: Really and so, but they welcomed him. They were just like, hey,

455
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 5: we put our blessings on this. Yes, yes, is there

456
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 5: any type of traditions that y'all have as Haitians when

457
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 5: you bring a person home to say that this person

458
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 5: is intentional to marry you.

459
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: So, so, my father had passed away already at that point,

460
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 3: so he never got to meet my dad. But my

461
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: mom just told her I have a boyfriend, and she

462
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 3: she was happy because again it was like, when am

463
00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 3: I going to have grandkids?

464
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: Where are you going to be rested?

465
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 5: As soon as you say yes, yes, yes, when I

466
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 5: have a grand baby, Like good, look, I just told

467
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 5: this my boyfriend. Can we start I'm trying to get

468
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 5: to see if we're gonna get married. Can we just

469
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 5: start there when you're gonna have grandkids? Do you feel pressure?

470
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 5: I know you said most women feel like they're going

471
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 5: to get married young or whatnot. Where we've seen the

472
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 5: trend where a lot of women don't. A lot of

473
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 5: women like, no, I'm focused on career at that age

474
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 5: at twenty five, Where were you focused on career or family?

475
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 3: On my career? And I just wanted to be in

476
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: a committed relationship. I had bad experiences prior to him,

477
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: and I just didn't want to be with somebody that

478
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: I knew wasn't going to be serious. I wanted whoever

479
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: I was going to meet around that time to be

480
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: the one.

481
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: What about you, ring, I didn't have bad experiences. I

482
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: was just I was just in the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

483
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: I was.

484
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 6: I was just I didn't have I think your relationships

485
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 6: were more serious than mine were. Yeah, so I think

486
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 6: that allowed you to feel like, Okay, I need to

487
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 6: be you know, committed to someone who who really understands

488
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,239
Speaker 6: what I have going on. On the flip side, I

489
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 6: think I was just dealing with stuff that I knew

490
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 6: that I didn't want to have, you know, and because

491
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 6: of that, I knew that if I came across the

492
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 6: right person, this is what I wanted. And because meeting Sandy,

493
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 6: I knew right out the bad that she was just

494
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 6: the one because everyone else didn't take it serious.

495
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 5: So I'm about to ask you, so, do you think

496
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 5: subconsciously you were comparing other girls that you were meeting

497
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 5: around that time to Sandy.

498
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 6: I think so. I think I think, uh, in a way,

499
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 6: I knew Sandy before I even met her.

500
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: Exactly who you said before you even met her? Yeah,

501
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 5: explain step heavy now.

502
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's kind of crazy.

503
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of crazy to think about it. Like

504
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 6: that's why I said streets because I don't mean streets like, oh,

505
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 6: I was like, I know, you know what I'm saying,

506
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 6: But like when I came, when I when I met

507
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 6: Sandy and I and I finally got to meet her.

508
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 6: It's like it was just a breath of fresh air,

509
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 6: and it just opened my eyes to what I knew

510
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 6: what I wanted and a wife, and what you knew.

511
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 4: You wanted a wife?

512
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, hearing that, I believe it. Yeah.

513
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: And again at the time, maybe we didn't have the

514
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: best words to say, but Karam was really big on

515
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: breaking generational curses. That's good, not repeating the same mistakes

516
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: that you know he saw he went and that's why

517
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: he wanted to leave at nine years old, because I

518
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: think he just knew that he could be the change

519
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 3: in his family.

520
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: And he really was and.

521
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: He still is. And I think that aligned with me

522
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 3: so perfectly. And it wasn't until we were maybe a

523
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: year and a half and I asked him that question.

524
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I know you believe in God,

525
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: I know.

526
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: You have a good heart, but like, what's your spiritual

527
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: life like? And we made a lot of changes, Like

528
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: I want to say, a year before our we got engaged,

529
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: and I knew he was the one for sure, for

530
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: sure because I started getting like I remember I met him.

531
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: We had a great relationship, fun, good guy, very ambitious,

532
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: but spiritually I was like I I grew up in

533
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: the church I grew up, you know, I wanted a

534
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: man that was gonna speaking tongues and pray and realnecessary

535
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: isn't exactly what I pictured.

536
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: And my family didn't kind of raised me.

537
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: Here you raising church or you wasn't.

538
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: Not not necesarily, not really but that's like my grandma.

539
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: But but the experience I had, like all of those

540
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: things like that was the first time he ever witnessed

541
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: things like that, So he just was so open to

542
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: growing his faith.

543
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: And once I saw that, yeah, it was like that.

544
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: That's good and kareem, how did you?

545
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: Oh?

546
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 6: No, go ahead, No, I was just gonna just add on,

547
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 6: like you know, even though my family wasn't so strong

548
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 6: on that and on their faith and all that good stuff.

549
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 6: I think sometimes faith finds you as opposed to you finding,

550
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 6: you know, the faith. And that's another big point of

551
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 6: why I think finding Sandy was something that was meant

552
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 6: for me in my life because even though it wasn't

553
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 6: something I had in my family growing up, she introduced

554
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 6: that to me. And it wasn't because I didn't believe

555
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 6: in God or nothing like that introduced to. It's just

556
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 6: I was just introduced to it more from her and

557
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 6: that opened my eyes more so.

558
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: So, how did you feel when you saw that for

559
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: the first time, people speaking in tongues and falling all

560
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: out in the spirit. Where you like these people doing

561
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: too much? They weirdo? Or were you like I need that?

562
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: Not? Yeah, not at all? Like it was. It was.

563
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 6: It was something that really opened my eyes and I

564
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: was like, man, this is absolutely beautiful good you know.

565
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: And whether or not it's people doing it for show

566
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 6: or people really feeling convicted by the spirit, right, that's

567
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 6: not up to me, you know, that's up to them

568
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 6: and how they feel, and they if they truly feel

569
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 6: the Holy Spirit, that's up to them. I absolutely loved it,

570
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: and I thought it was just a great thing.

571
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 5: What generational curse were you wanting to break or are

572
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: breaking that you saw growing up?

573
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: I think it was our outlook of one money.

574
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 6: That's why I went to school for accounting and wanted

575
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 6: to be a CPA, you know. I wanted to have

576
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 6: my own practice and do taxes and all that good stuff.

577
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 6: But God had other plans and said, you know what,

578
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 6: why don't you go ahead and be a wedding photographer

579
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 6: that come about? You know, So I was in This

580
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 6: is twenty fifteen. Now, I was just about finishing my

581
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: degree in accounting and a friend of mine asked me

582
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: to come and help him take pictures at a photo shoot.

583
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, cool, no problem.

584
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: And it was just so much fun I had. I

585
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 6: had a great time just taking pictures with him. But

586
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 6: that same year, that's when me and Sandy started to talk,

587
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 6: started to get talking, and we got acquainted and I

588
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 6: was a plus one at a wedding with her.

589
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: Whoever wedding wedding twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen never went.

590
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: To and I was so he brought your homeboy to

591
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: the wedding. Yeah, we were.

592
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: We were dating at that point.

593
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: We were on it's pretty much dating. We were we

594
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: at the.

595
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: What are we wet? We met twenty We met twenty thirteen.

596
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: In twenty fourteen was when we became fishing. We were

597
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: together at least a good year and and a half

598
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: at that point. This is the beginning of twenty fifteen.

599
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: To Weddnig gets real serious.

600
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: These were mutual friends.

601
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: So like, okay, y'all vote, yeah.

602
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: We both but this was his first time ever we

603
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: at a wedding ever, and I was very familiar. I

604
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: was a bridesmade one hundred times flower girl everything. So

605
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: we're sitting at the wedding. He's like, so, why, like,

606
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: you can't I think your parents went to the courthouse, right.

607
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: I just had a very small and my parents had

608
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: a big wedding back in nineteen eighty six, so I

609
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: knew I always wanted a big wedding, but he knew

610
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: nothing about wedding. So we're sitting at this Wedding's like, okay,

611
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: so what's next?

612
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: What they about to do?

613
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: Why is there so many things that next to the reception?

614
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: And how what does this cost?

615
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like this one might cost like ten

616
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: twelve thousand. He's like, what people spend that just to

617
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: say you my wife? I'm like, yeah, it's a thing.

618
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: So but when he got into capturing love stories, of course,

619
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: and then him self falling in love and seeing how

620
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: the wedding is more than just I love you or

621
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: it's a it's a public declaration of your love with

622
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: family and friends, he started to really like, oh no, this,

623
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: I want to do this.

624
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't about the money at all.

625
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 6: It's just just seeing the photographer shooting and the amount

626
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 6: of pressure that is on them for that wedding day

627
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 6: as well. I like to capture a full day. I

628
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, this is something I think I can do.

629
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: You know this is this is this.

630
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: Kind of to be creative, like everything be creative different,

631
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: like each wedding is a different thing. So it was

632
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: like it was fun for you.

633
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. So I started.

634
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 6: I went on this app called Thumbtack, you know about,

635
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 6: and then you get like different bookings and I think

636
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 6: my first wedding was two hundred bucks and they love

637
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 6: the pictures.

638
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so you want to bought

639
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: your camera, use your friends camera. I bought a camera, okay,

640
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: the same camera he had.

641
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: What camera?

642
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Was it? T THR eye?

643
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: You gotta start off with.

644
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: That, yeah, camera, But are you canon?

645
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Are you Well?

646
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: That's a Mark War over there, and then there's an

647
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: eos R over there. Yeah you know, yeah, I got

648
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: to have e F lenses. All of these are sitting

649
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 5: on those black magics and all that. So yeah, so

650
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: what do y'all team? What cannon about to say?

651
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Nikon too? You know?

652
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 6: So we kind of have a nikon thing going on

653
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: as well, so.

654
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: People are a little confused, you know.

655
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: But you know, so y'all would use both of them

656
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: at a wedding, I would, Yeah, you'll use a nikon

657
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: and a cannon to shoot photography, or you'll use one

658
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: on for video and then use the other one for photography.

659
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 6: I would use, you know, so for me, I would

660
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: use both for photography. But the team, the team mostly

661
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 6: used cannon and sony.

662
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always that sony and cannon battle. Yep, okay,

663
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: are we still equally? Keep talking?

664
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's how we got started.

665
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much in a photography space.

666
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: And you shot your first wedding, And what did you

667
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: feel about the work that you did at the first wedding?

668
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 6: Man time, I was like, you know, this must be

669
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 6: this is great, this.

670
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: His first picture here.

671
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 6: But then I look back from like now and I'm like, oh, man,

672
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: thank you for hiring me.

673
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

674
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: Well, it's only two hundred so the day that was

675
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: how many years ago?

676
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Ten years ago?

677
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: Ten years ago? So this is your ten year anniversary?

678
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Yes it is.

679
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: What month did you start?

680
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: October?

681
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: October? So October your ten.

682
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: Year anniversary October seventeen.

683
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: Wow, almost to the day of your wedding. Yeah, that

684
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: is crazy. Your wedding photography business jumped off almost a day,

685
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: three days apart from when y'all said y'all vows and

686
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: got married.

687
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: Yep, we are married in twenty eighteen, and you.

688
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: Started photography in what year? Twenty fIF So three years later,

689
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: three days later, three years and three days will always

690
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: be the whole thing.

691
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: And so when you what did you hear?

692
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 5: What did you think when he came back and told you, Hey,

693
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: you know I shot my first wedding. You knew about

694
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: him going there.

695
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: What did you think about it once he picked up

696
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: the camera? Because I witnessed like the whole thing. I

697
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: just thought photography was just going to be a hobby.

698
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: Accounting was the thing he had his mindset on and

699
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: break you know, had to learn about money, helping his

700
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: parents learn about money, everybody. That was his thing. So

701
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: I just thought photography was a hobby. And at the time,

702
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: I was doing modeling back in South Florida, so I

703
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: was doing like runway and photo shoots. So I would

704
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: just help him, like pose if you were to This

705
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: wasn't like weddings yet it was just like if you

706
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: need to pose a model or whatever. So I just

707
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: kind of gave him my insight. But once we got

708
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: into the wedding space, that's when we like, the both

709
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: of us working together, it just feit like a love.

710
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: It was like perfect. And I did I do take pictures,

711
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: but it was more so me posing people and just

712
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: being that third eye for him, and it was just seamless.

713
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, because one thing I hate doing is posing, and

714
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: one thing I hate doing. When I was photographers posing people, yeah,

715
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: i'd be like.

716
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: Y'all, that's our favorite thing to do.

717
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like post people.

718
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: No, I suck at that. Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna models and

719
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: stuff like that. I said, Rihanna, come come and help

720
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: pose people, yeah, because she's real good at that. Really,

721
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: y'all suck. I'd be like, I don't know, just standing there,

722
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't like the way you standing

723
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: to stand.

724
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: The other way a couple, yeah, the couples who it

725
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: just depends on.

726
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: It's hard.

727
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: It could be harder for certain people to pose, and

728
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: we just want we always ask them to just be

729
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: in there natural element and then we work around that.

730
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I actually love it.

731
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 6: I love I love directing couples and just kind of

732
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 6: getting a feel of them, just guiding them and helping

733
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: them pose.

734
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: I've seen you at work. That's one of the things

735
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: I said, this yoke is good. He's so dog gone good.

736
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: I was just sitting there like, yeah, stand right there,

737
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: that turn right there, yeah, yeah, right there, hold his

738
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: head like that right there, right there, right there, all

739
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: right cool. And I was like, he'd be so relaxed.

740
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: I'd be like, hey, stand up, I be stressing out

741
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: his personality, be like he would be sweating, come back

742
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 5: and be sweat or whatever.

743
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, everything could be on fire, and m is just like,

744
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: all right, let's use the flames.

745
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, just shoot through it. You know,

746
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: I love it.

747
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: Get that shot, Thank you money shot Brod vaccine holder.

748
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: It I was watching. I said, he's so calm as

749
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: a photographer. And I'm telling you, photography when you're shooting

750
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 5: the wedding. And then one of the things that I

751
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: respect a lot, as you were talking about in the

752
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 5: video that I was watching, was that, you know, sometimes

753
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 5: a photographer can be overbearing and just take up all

754
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 5: the shots and the videographers kind of shooting around the

755
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 5: photographer of you, Like, you know what I do is,

756
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 5: you know, I get my shots and I sit back

757
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: and tell people to post with a videographer and all

758
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 5: that stuff. And I was like, yeah, because I remember

759
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: when I used to shoot, uh, I used to shoot

760
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: more of the video side and uh, and doing that,

761
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 5: it was like, I feel like I'm just shooting a

762
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: b roll of the photographer and I was like I

763
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 5: can't stand that. I'm like, why you hogging up everything?

764
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 5: Can you stop and let me get some shots? And

765
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 5: then I'm getting kind of left over its you know

766
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Truthfully speaking, videography, especially when I started

767
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 5: out doing it was a afterthought like it was. It

768
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: was straight afterthought. It was like, hey, we got photography,

769
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, hey, why don't you get videography?

770
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: Like why do I need that? I said, don't you

771
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: want to hear what you.

772
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 4: Did on you?

773
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah?

774
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 5: I said, how are you getting this a photo? Don't

775
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: you want to hear this? Like I don't have no

776
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: money for that. I used to be like, what you

777
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 5: got five hundred dollars, I'll take it. I'm just gonna

778
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 5: do it. And I would just do it just so

779
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: I could build a portfolio to be like man just

780
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: and then they'd be like, oh my god, and I

781
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 5: can relive these moments over and over again. I was like, yeah,

782
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 5: but then I'm telling you back then, no one cared.

783
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 5: I remember I shot me and my friend Tony pettipherd

784
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: he's one of the groomsmen, and my wedding. He and

785
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: I started a video photography wedding called One Not Photography.

786
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: And I was sitting at the dinner table with Kurt Franklin,

787
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 5: that's a good friend of mine, and I was like, hey, listen,

788
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: his daughter was getting married Carrington, and I was like, hey,

789
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: did you book anybody do videographer? She was like, I

790
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: mean videography. She was like no, she said, do I

791
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: need videography? I said yes.

792
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: What happened?

793
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: She was naming all the people that were singing. She said,

794
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: we're gonna have Brian mcnight singing. We have Yolanda Adams,

795
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: we got Donnie McClerkin. She was naming all that, Chris Sette, Michelle.

796
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 5: She was naming these people and I said, are y'all

797
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 5: doing videos? She said no, just photographer. I said, no,

798
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: one's going to hear these people singing. She was like,

799
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 5: I don't have no budget for it. I said, man,

800
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: I'll do it for free. I will shoot your wedding

801
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: for free. That would be the biggest, like portfolio here

802
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: it is.

803
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: Man.

804
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 5: We went out there, but we had a full team people.

805
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: We were shooting that dog on thing.

806
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Man.

807
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: We were shooting like Craig Drone.

808
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Shots on the bad.

809
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: We were doing all kinds of stuff.

810
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: And the video that we dropped went viral with him

811
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: and his daughter Carrington doing this the first dance with

812
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: father and daughter. Dads went super viral, got like a

813
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: half a million views in like eight hours or whatnot.

814
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: And she was like, thank you for talking me into that.

815
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 5: And then for every major moment in their lives, their

816
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 5: first child, you know, first kid. I shot the first

817
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: birthday party and all that stuff. But what I love

818
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: about photographers is that you get a chance to be

819
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 5: embedded in the story of the of the client and.

820
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: It doesn't just become a client.

821
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Like I was telling my.

822
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: Fiance, I was like, well, you know, Riem, I mean

823
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: they just they just you know, the Virgo is gonna

824
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: be family now at this point, because you're going to

825
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: be in intimate spaces with us. You're going to be

826
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: in moments that is the beginning of our covenant and

827
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 5: share spaces where you capture it and what you capture

828
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: is going to allow us not only to relive that moment,

829
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: but for people that wasn't in these sacred spaces in

830
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 5: our groom suite or bridal suite. You're gonna be able

831
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: to capture these intimate moments where people get a chance

832
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 5: to look at and be you know what I'm saying,

833
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: those moments And that's why I said, I never take

834
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: that for granted, and I never take a photographer, especially

835
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: those with a skill set like yours, I never take

836
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 5: that for granted.

837
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: So thank you man.

838
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 6: That's man. That's such a great point, man, Because we're

839
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 6: there with y'all the entire day, right, we're only we're

840
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 6: one of the only people who are there with y'all

841
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: the entire day. So you getting ready sunning up to

842
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 6: sun down all that good stuff, and you keep saying

843
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 6: a reliving pug that in there real quick, you know,

844
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: because because reem actually stands for reliving each and every

845
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 6: moment broken and Sandy came up with it.

846
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, that's why you got to have a good wife.

847
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: But you know, he finds a wife, you know.

848
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: Favor from the Lord. Amen. So you came up with that?

849
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: What made you decide to make his name an acronymic?

850
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: He went so his he had several different business names,

851
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: first one being Irin Irin expressions I expressed, I don't

852
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: know all these types of things.

853
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to find my way.

854
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: People just started calling him Riem and no one called

855
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: you ring growing up. That was just something that came

856
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: up in college and all that stuff. So he was like,

857
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: I think I like rem And I was like, but

858
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: Riem got to mean something, like it has to mean

859
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: something and immediately and we work like that, Like a

860
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: lot of the ideas start like he starts it. I

861
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: come in, I put my little sprinkle on there, and

862
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: then it just it just takes off. It just takes off.

863
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: How do you feel when y'all first saw that? Though,

864
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: Like a lot of times, I always say that God

865
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: allowed me to re discover what marriage is, not just

866
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: husband and wife, but to be purpose partners.

867
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: And you see it.

868
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: In three D with you guys, because y'all could have

869
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 5: different careers doing whatever y'all do, but y'all are serving

870
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: purpose together.

871
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: How does it.

872
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: Feel on both of y'all's end, And I'm gonna start off

873
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 5: with Reem, is that you have your purpose partner, that

874
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 5: she says that you can have an idea and she'll

875
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: that seed, She'll take that seed and bring a whole baby.

876
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?

877
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: Man?

878
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't think this would have worked

879
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 6: if we didn't have that dynamic. I think she believed

880
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 6: in the vision I had for everything from the get go,

881
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 6: and if we didn't have that, I think I don't

882
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 6: know if this would have even worked.

883
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

884
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 6: Because so because she knew and saw the vision that

885
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 6: I had for me being a photographer, it just that

886
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 6: was all the confirmation I needed because when I when

887
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 6: I quit my job, I didn't even put in my

888
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 6: two weeks notice really, I just I just left.

889
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And she was like, oh, well, your wedding of

890
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: our wedding planet.

891
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And she was like, look, let's pray on it

892
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: and and if you're really serious about this, let's just

893
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: put in that work. And I was like, bet, and

894
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: that was it.

895
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: But she was like, oh, I say, just quit that quick.

896
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I told you, Yeah, he called me.

897
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: It was not even nine o'clock.

898
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: It was like it probably was like, ain't even in.

899
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: He was in the car and he was like, I can't.

900
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: I physically cannot get out of this.

901
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Car and I physically couldn't. He was.

902
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: He spent all the hours editing photos, the website everything anyways,

903
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: So I said, I said, you're not gonna embarrass me

904
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: with this wedding, like you're not, like if you gonna

905
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: quit your job, you need to go like you need

906
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: to go in. And I knew he had it in

907
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: him and it was the thing he needed because we

908
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: had a wedding, like we had a three hundred guest

909
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: wedding like that.

910
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: That was that was low key confirmation that I needed though.

911
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 6: I just needed some sort of confirmation When she said that, yeah,

912
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 6: I was like, if you can just confirm that I

913
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: can go and put this work in, really I'm out.

914
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: And then October two weeks before our wedding, like he

915
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: he it was like, oh that's my husband.

916
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh we're gonna get good like yeah, I mean

917
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I dropped. I dropped. We did.

918
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 6: We did like ten free shoots, like just free photo

919
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 6: shoots for different couples, just just to put the work out. Yeah,

920
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 6: get their website looking right, because people be like, oh,

921
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 6: you know, nobody's booking me, nobody's looking me. Well, nobody

922
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 6: can't see your work, right, nobody's gonna Why would I

923
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: come to your store if there's nothing on.

924
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: The shelves, Yeah, no clothes there.

925
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 6: So we just started put on a bunch of free

926
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: work and a lot of people gave us good feedback

927
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: and people just saw that we do weddings as well,

928
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 6: and it just it just came from it.

929
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: Well, I remember when we when we were about to

930
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: get that year, like we were engaged, playing on the wedding.

931
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: I made about sixty k remade about forty fifty K.

932
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: I was like, if we can get to one hundred k,

933
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: we're good. Like that's above anything we've ever seen. Absolutely,

934
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: our wedding alone was it was, it was, It was.

935
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: It was a lot.

936
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie it was a lot.

937
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: It was a lot.

938
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know she got a big family.

939
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, guys. He had fifteen of his family there, fifteen.

940
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: At one table.

941
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 6: I had one tabley'll he had two hund eighty five. Crazy,

942
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: I'm over here waving the people like.

943
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: You had a lot of college friends.

944
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: I have about maybe like one hundred.

945
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 4: But from here's my family.

946
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

947
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: Already say everybody, everything we did just so these people

948
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: can eat and drink and have a good time though,

949
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: I said, we can. We can. We can work hard

950
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: and create a life and be we can be debt free,

951
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: we can build generational wealth and we can inspire because

952
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: a lot of people they they booked us because we

953
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: were in love and we were shooting love and I

954
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: quit my job.

955
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: You did good?

956
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can quit, like this is this is

957
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: what we love to do.

958
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 5: So you quit how many months before? Three months?

959
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: I quit about six months months before April?

960
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: And I quit two weeks befo the right deposit.

961
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: We needed my money to keep like that was but

962
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: once once, yeah, so was.

963
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: You afraid to quit?

964
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

965
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: Why so?

966
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: I was the So I worked in HR. I got

967
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: my MBA in human resources, and when I got that

968
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: particular job, I moved up really quickly and I was

969
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: the only black woman in there. I had the highest degree,

970
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: and I saw myself possibly being a director one day.

971
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: And my boss at the time, she she really pushed me.

972
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: But it got to a point where I just I said,

973
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do this much longer.

974
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: You felt when he was in that call.

975
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I felt like it was a spiritual war

976
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: for sure.

977
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: And I think I think too A lot of people

978
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: at my job they because they knew, they started knowing

979
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: about what I was doing, and I think it kind

980
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: of caused something, I don't want to say, jealousy, but yeah, yeah, yeah,

981
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: I think I think they were like, yeah, because I

982
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: was I was a little Haitian girl, this little black girl.

983
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: They gave a chance and I was doing a great job.

984
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: But I think it kind of what what they loved

985
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: about me was what they didn't like about me at

986
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: the end. So I remember when I quit, my boss

987
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: was like, well, what are you going to do? And

988
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: I said, whatever I put my hands on, God would

989
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: bless you, said, I said what I said, I don't

990
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm going to do actually, because a lot

991
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: of people, I think at the time, just was like, oh,

992
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: your your your husband, you're soon to be husband, has

993
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: all of this, but what about you?

994
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: You know?

995
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: And I struggled with that even after I quit. I

996
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: love that we worked together, but at some point I

997
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: was like that it's it's really you. Because the name

998
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: is ram. It's not Sandy in it, but.

999
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 5: This is good right here, so even in it, because

1000
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 5: this is so freaking good, he already said that he

1001
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: couldn't do it without you. I don't know if that's

1002
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 5: hindsight being to at the beginning. Was he inviting you

1003
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: in these spaces because he allowed you to name the company?

1004
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1005
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 5: Way if he started off under one name at first

1006
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 5: and then they evolved to.

1007
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: Rheim, But.

1008
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 5: Why did you feel like that was his success and

1009
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: wouldn't be yours?

1010
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: Because there's this As much as women want to be

1011
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: taken care of and they have the picture perfect life,

1012
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: they have the husband who make six figures for the home,

1013
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: there's also another part side that a lot of women

1014
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: don't talk about that you get judged for it. Look

1015
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: you look like, oh, you're just a housewife, You're not

1016
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: doing anything. And I received a lot of that from

1017
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: maybe friendships and people that just knew me, and but

1018
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: majority of the people that did ed just solace on

1019
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: social media right or worked with us, They were like,

1020
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: we need Sandy there. It took it took years for

1021
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 3: people to say where's you, where's your wife? I'm not

1022
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: holding a camera, but I needed to be there.

1023
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: Why why? Why did why did they start connecting?

1024
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Because I I am a I love connection.

1025
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: I love to I would find myself maybe five minutes

1026
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: before the bride has to go down the aisle. She's

1027
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: by herself, no planner, no maid of honor, and I'm

1028
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: praying with her.

1029
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm.

1030
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: It became like I.

1031
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: Was like, oh God, this is not just waiting photography.

1032
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: This is this is a ministry. This is ministry, and

1033
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: people forget that. Yeah, and I just think.

1034
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: It was just the enemy, just whispering. And I had like,

1035
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: oh this, Yeah, remember.

1036
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: You you you were a whole degree.

1037
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you got this, you got that.

1038
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 3: You're not using that at all, and you're just yeah,

1039
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: you have a successful business, but it's not your business.

1040
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: But once I became one with this man, that is

1041
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: that is my business. That is our business. That is

1042
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: everything we built together.

1043
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: We did it. He reminds me every day.

1044
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: He won't say my he won't talk about our company

1045
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 3: without mentioning my name.

1046
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: So, yeah, why is that important?

1047
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1048
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 6: You hit it right on the money, Like people just

1049
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 6: look at the the face of the business type thing.

1050
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 6: They see my face and it's attached that you know,

1051
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 6: Reem is the guy who's doing all the work well

1052
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 6: all this stuff, But like, just because I'm doing the labor,

1053
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean she's not doing the work exactly, you

1054
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 6: know what I mean. She has been the brains behind

1055
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 6: this entire business. And what do people think when I'm

1056
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 6: going out here and shooting his weddings and posing these

1057
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 6: brides and giving all these feedback to them and all

1058
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 6: that good stuff. You know, where do they think that

1059
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 6: comes from? You know what I'm saying, It literally comes

1060
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 6: from her. Like as simple as how does her hair look?

1061
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 6: When I'm editing the photos, I'm like, yo.

1062
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: What is like? What is that? La? You know what

1063
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean?

1064
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: That's a lace?

1065
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: You have to make sure, like what's going on?

1066
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: Right? You know.

1067
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 6: I would go to a wedding and they're like, they're like,

1068
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 6: where's your wife. I'm like, oh man, she couldn't make it,

1069
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: And they're like what I'm like, but I'm here, Okay,

1070
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 6: Maybe all hurt and stuff, But it just goes to

1071
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 6: show how much she is a part of the business

1072
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 6: that I am. Just because her face not be attached

1073
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 6: to it as much as I am, She's every much

1074
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: as this business as I am. So yeah, I think

1075
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't really realize that.

1076
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: Did it take a while to get to that level

1077
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: as a couple or did it always start off like that,

1078
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: because like I said, you quit your job, pride and bears.

1079
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 5: That was that something that y'all had to learn to

1080
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 5: allow each other's strengths to shine?

1081
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: Or was it?

1082
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 5: Because a lot of times that's a whole maturation phase.

1083
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 5: Because sometimes with men be like, old on, I got this,

1084
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: this is what I do. I don't need you try

1085
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 5: and tell me how I do this, don't tell me

1086
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 5: how to do this. Is always like that.

1087
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: I can't explain why, because that's the number one question.

1088
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: A lot of women reach out to me, like how

1089
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: do you work with your husband?

1090
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: How do you make it work?

1091
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, we truly feel like this is our ministry.

1092
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: There's nothing else we could say about it. We can't

1093
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: have arguments about other stuff like that, have nothing. It's

1094
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: never about a wedding, never about work. We love traveling together.

1095
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: It's the only thing now we don't travel as much

1096
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: because we have our son and three heard three last week.

1097
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, he was almost a vergo's yeah, but yeah,

1098
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: so but we just it the thing, even if we

1099
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: were like kind of mad at each other because it's

1100
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: some petty little forgot whatever, we would get like we

1101
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: gotta leave at one pm, like well, I'm still doing makeup.

1102
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. Once we got get to the wedding,

1103
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: it's just like and he says something all the time

1104
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: and that whenever we go to a wedding and we

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00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: get especially the ceremony, it's like where we're doing.

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00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: I was about to ask a special moment seeing.

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Speaker 3: The family, seeing the couples come together, is I don't

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00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: I don't know another thing that I love more than

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00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: wedding photography.

1110
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: Never been went to your first wedding with your wife,

1111
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: and now that's all y'all do now?

1112
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: Is well?

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00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then like the pastor be talking, the couples

1114
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 6: be saying their vows and then just be looking at

1115
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 6: each other like, man, I should have said that when

1116
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 6: that was a good one. Yeah, putting it in my

1117
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 6: iPhone notes, I've been like, oh that's pretty good.

1118
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's it's it's crazy that we get

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Speaker 6: to shoot weddings because every single wedding that we shoot,

1121
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 6: we get to just learn something more seeing families come

1122
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 6: together seeing a couple say their vows, the pastors that

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00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 6: they have all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I just be taking notes.

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Speaker 4: How many way did you think y'all shot.

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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Total? Yeah? Definitely over a thousand, really, yeah, over a thousand.

1127
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: Oh no, definitely way more than that. This year.

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Speaker 1: That's just being modest.

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00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this year, we've had over.

1130
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: Probably eighty yeah, eighty, So y'all be shooting a couple

1131
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 5: of week then, yeah. Yeah, it's not just like y'all

1132
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: doing once a week in.

1133
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: The beginning when we after we got married, we were

1134
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: like on especially you know, kids like just me, like

1135
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: we sometimes three four weddings a week.

1136
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, and before people be like, oh, eighty, you know,

1137
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 6: just to give context, we have a team as well,

1138
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 6: so yeah, you know the team and us, it's about

1139
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 6: eighty for the year.

1140
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: So how did y'all first start branching out?

1141
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: Where are y'all from South Florida?

1142
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: South Florida?

1143
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: How did y'all how did your wedding business start taking

1144
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 5: off from just being in y'all's region to being I'll

1145
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 5: probably say worldwide because y'all shot international. Yeah, yeah, so

1146
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 5: how did that even? How did that happen?

1147
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Yeah.

1148
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 6: I mean it started with shooting for free of course,

1149
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 6: you know, doing the free shoots, getting all of our

1150
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 6: content out there. And then I think once you get

1151
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 6: kind of that one out of state wedding and you

1152
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 6: start posting it, pol just start being like location, Yeah,

1153
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 6: put the location and tag the you know, tag the

1154
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 6: venue and stuff. They must shoot out of state, right,

1155
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 6: I'm like, yep, why not.

1156
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: Even if we were traveling, we would damn a couple

1157
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: that we know this out there or and we say, hey,

1158
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: you guys want to shoot and then you just changed

1159
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: the locations tag up there.

1160
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1161
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: But social media.

1162
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 3: But during COVID, COVID is what changed.

1163
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Us really, Yeah for sure. So getting counseled.

1164
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: During that time, yes, that's when we had that was

1165
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: like our biggest blessing was COVID. So during COVID, I

1166
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: want to say, like the beginning when everything got shut down,

1167
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: I just I was never scared when it came to like,

1168
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: oh yeah, like the whole world shut down. Everybody can't

1169
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: pay their bills, everybody.

1170
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought about going back to work.

1171
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 5: Man, let me tell you something. I'm trying to figure

1172
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 5: everything in life to do. I started did future wife

1173
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 5: during COVID. Yeah, I was literally going to to do

1174
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 5: a podcast for some school districts and I was talking

1175
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 5: them into it.

1176
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 4: That's how I had all the equipment, and.

1177
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 5: So they were just like, well, we don't know if school,

1178
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: we don't know what's going on, so we don't know

1179
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 5: if we're gonna have to do the podcast.

1180
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: I said, I'm tired of as.

1181
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 5: Trying to chase everybody else to get them to convince

1182
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 5: them while podcasts necessary, I said, I would just be

1183
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 5: the proof of concept. I'm gonna go ahead and be

1184
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: my own calling card. I'm gonna produce a podcast and

1185
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 5: now I'm gonna show people this is how you do

1186
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: a podcast.

1187
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, that means I gotta.

1188
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 5: Record this stuff. I said, oh, I'll be telling everybody

1189
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 5: my business. Then I got I said, let me think

1190
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: about it. I said, I'm gonna tell everybody my business.

1191
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: How's that gonna go? I don't care. I need to

1192
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 5: get healed anyway. And that's why I started out doing it,

1193
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 5: and it just started. It just it just took off.

1194
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 5: But I was afraid. I did it because I wanted

1195
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 5: to show the clients I want to track how to

1196
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: do a podcast.

1197
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: Wow, and then I accidentally became successful.

1198
00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: Es yes, that's a that's a so and.

1199
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 5: So during COVID you said you was about to go

1200
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 5: back to get a job and then what about you?

1201
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 3: So about two weeks and two three weeks in like

1202
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: we're like, oh, everything's getting canceled. Literally everything got canceled,

1203
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: and Riem caught up on all his edits and we're like, oh,

1204
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: there's nothing to do.

1205
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: We're just looking at each other.

1206
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: And I said, DJ D Nice did his go live

1207
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: DJ and all that.

1208
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: So I was like, there's nothing like that we could do.

1209
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: I was like, there's nothing like photography thing we could do.

1210
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: And I'm notorious for if I'm on FaceTime with somebody,

1211
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: I will take their picture. There's like a little button

1212
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: on the iPhone that you could take a live photo.

1213
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: And I told Reem. He didn't know what I was

1214
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: talking about, thought I was crazy. And I said, can

1215
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: we take some pictures of our friends on FaceTime and

1216
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: edit these photos? And he was.

1217
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: Like, I showed them.

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: We called two friends, two couples, and we had a

1219
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: whole face We scream recorded the whole thing and we

1220
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: took pictures of them. Those pictures re edited them. He

1221
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: gave people line up. The pictures weren't good quality, but

1222
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: they were just it was just fun. He posted it

1223
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: and it took off.

1224
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: That what took off.

1225
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: It took off what people were saying.

1226
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: They were just like, what we're shooting the virtually and

1227
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: we were editing these photos and it got on a

1228
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: bunch of places. We got on Good Morning America.

1229
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Station opened up are you serious? He opened up the

1230
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: right word, so he question her. At first, I was like,

1231
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: looking at it, why why.

1232
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 2: This like where you could schedule?

1233
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: Like no, he was, And we got start booking people

1234
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: on Facebook. You know, we booked. We did over five

1235
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: hundred photo shops for free, and that's when we shot

1236
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: people in London, Paris, all over the US. And then

1237
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: people just found out and people were crying on these

1238
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 3: both past time shoots because all their stuff got canceled,

1239
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: maternity shotes got canceled. This was their first child wedding.

1240
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: We thought this was like, we thought it was funny.

1241
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: People were on there like thank you.

1242
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: We're like, wait, what what do we what did We created.

1243
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people.

1244
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: Just then when the world opened back up, they were like,

1245
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: we want you to be our photographer.

1246
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 4: Advertising for your behind.

1247
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: So we're shooting.

1248
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: We're shooting in Africa before we even got Africa.

1249
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you tell me.

1250
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 5: They would call y'all and y'all would do y'all would

1251
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: tell them the screen record record, so.

1252
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: They would place their camera somewhere. We'll tell them exactly

1253
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: where we had set up.

1254
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: We had constructions. You know, you must have Wi Fi.

1255
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: We can show you after for sure.

1256
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 5: And so y'all was doing that. But y'all was doing

1257
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 5: it for free, and people.

1258
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: Picture it was when when he was when we were

1259
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: in the in it, we were like, okay, that's why

1260
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 3: he had to shut down the website off it got

1261
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: people started booking. It was so many people were like

1262
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: and then it got on like shade room and you know,

1263
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: once that happens, people are like, yeah, so.

1264
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: But about five hundred people.

1265
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: People people donated. We were able to pay our rent

1266
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: for that month.

1267
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh good, yep.

1268
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: I hope somebody will give you a little offer.

1269
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: The d photo.

1270
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: It's a bad idea.

1271
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be there.

1272
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't do it. But that was that

1273
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: was what really made us, I guess more known, just

1274
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: a whole global, whole thing that we didn't even know

1275
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: about so.

1276
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 5: And then y'all got bookings from that. There was like, hey,

1277
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 5: I'm getting married, come here. Uh did y'all only just

1278
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 5: do weddings or where you'll doing like engagement shoots and

1279
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 5: so even back then people's booking y'all. Y'all do like

1280
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 5: maternity shoots and stuff like that. Y'all doing everything. So

1281
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 5: he was like, I'm taking the booking.

1282
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: Until now we do maternity and engagement shoots. We don't

1283
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: do like we'll do a family shoot of course, because

1284
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: we want to be a part of the journey.

1285
00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1286
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: So but don't newborn, we don't do.

1287
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: We know what we like? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

1288
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: And I don't want to like get I don't want

1289
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: to disappointed person because it's something I don't like to shoot,

1290
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

1291
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna shoot like I like doing that myself. Yeah,

1292
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: Because I was like this babysitters every like swallow them up. No,

1293
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 5: I'd be like this is so you know what I'm

1294
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 5: saying that I'm somebody and some people be good. They

1295
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: know how to pose it, set it up, put all

1296
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 5: that stuff up.

1297
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: I'll be like, this is not my calling.

1298
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

1299
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: I mean I did event photography, I did all that stuff,

1300
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 5: and it's like, it's just it's something about weddings.

1301
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: Wedding is my love.

1302
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 5: I remember when bride dot com name me one of

1303
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 5: the top podcast of the year, and I was like, wow.

1304
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: If this isn't a full circle experience, wishing.

1305
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: That my photography would hit bride u dot com And

1306
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 5: here it is my podcast did That's just just a

1307
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 5: regular Tuesday for Reim to be on bride dot com.

1308
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 4: But you know some.

1309
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 6: People, how you just be like hyping this. That's kind

1310
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 6: of crazy, you all this stuff, sitting.

1311
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: People back and see and everything talking.

1312
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: About He's so humble, the one that's always like I

1313
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: gotta like I got you.

1314
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: Better tell him respect bride, tell him.

1315
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: You've been on.

1316
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I love most about him. He

1317
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: still feels like there's more to learn, more to do.

1318
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: He's still like that I could have I could have

1319
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: shot this this way. So he uses it for the

1320
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: next wedding.

1321
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 5: See the example, how your brain work at a wedding. Yeah,

1322
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 5: when you say I could have liked stuff, she's saying.

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Speaker 6: I think after the wedding. So when I'm going through

1324
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 6: the pictures. They call it color, you know, and I'm

1325
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 6: just sorting through the pictures. I'm like, man, I could

1326
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 6: have I could have stood this way, I could have

1327
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 6: had a light here and all that good stuff, and

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 6: Sandy be like, you know, this is a nice picture,

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 6: right it Like I'm like, I know, but like I've

1330
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 6: been good, have done this, And I think that just

1331
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 6: shows that I never get complacent.

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: I never get comfortable with what I'm doing.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I don't want to I don't want

1334
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 6: to ever reach the point where I'm like, yeah, I

1335
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 6: did that.

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01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: Everything I do is good. I make no mistakes.

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I need you to tell me that this wasn't

1338
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 6: you could have done better. And it's not because you're

1339
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 6: coming for me, it's just because I want to do better.

1340
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: Do you ever feel like that said when you look

1341
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 5: at this stuff, you be like, yeah, that was pretty wet.

1342
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1343
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: I have to keep him, I have to like make

1344
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: him work hard.

1345
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's I've always been just amazed by his

1346
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: eye and how he like and I know I'm always

1347
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 3: there and I see like I'll see something and he

1348
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: really knows how to understand what I'm saying. But especially

1349
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: since I don't really work with him as much. So

1350
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: when when he comes back and shows me the gallery,

1351
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, I taught you, well you did good, grasshopper,

1352
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: change you with no, But it's just like it's always

1353
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: been in him. He's so creative. So I always say, like,

1354
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: you weren't meant to be in accounting in front of

1355
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: sitting in front of a computer. It was like that

1356
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 3: was not gonna you weren't going to two.

1357
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: Different minds different So were you creative before accounting or

1358
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 5: was you just just creativity just popped up one day?

1359
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 6: Great question. Yeah, I think I always love art. Yeah,

1360
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 6: I always used to draw and all that good stuff.

1361
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: But photography. I didn't think I was going to be

1362
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 6: a photographer at at all. Like I said nine years old,

1363
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 6: I didn't even know what I was gonna do when

1364
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 6: I was moving what you did know you wasn't doing.

1365
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna live there. I didn't know

1366
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: what I was about to do though, you know what

1367
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1368
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 6: But I always wanted to do like animation, like colorism,

1369
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 6: and I guess like cartoonism and all that stuff. But

1370
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 6: I didn't know I wanted to be a photographer at all.

1371
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 5: Drawing and stuff, and I would draw my pictures will

1372
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 5: always be around the school, but being the best artists

1373
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 5: in the school for whatever great level.

1374
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: So that's what I used to love. Uhhatogh.

1375
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's just I just I just But that's

1376
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: the reason why I can respect dreams work so much

1377
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 5: is because of the eye that I have. I look,

1378
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 5: I'll be like, God, he posted them right, he is

1379
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 5: right here. You got a little back, like you got

1380
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 5: a little catch light over there. You got to come

1381
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 5: shover coome my third just be intimidated about ye.

1382
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: People when they meet him, they're like, they're like, that's

1383
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 3: not who I thought you were at all. Like he's

1384
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: so welcome in and like he learns from our second shooters.

1385
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: He learns from everybody all the time.

1386
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes they think like, oh, I thought he was

1387
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 6: going to be like, you know, real hard, Yeah, like

1388
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 6: tough and and micro managing.

1389
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: A hard football coach running like this. Yeah, I'm like,

1390
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: do you.

1391
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I brought you, like you know,

1392
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: do you?

1393
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 5: But you're so calm that it looked like even if

1394
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: somebody was doing a bad job, you'd be like.

1395
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well you know that's true. That's a good point.

1396
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah'd be like, he's never gonna have me.

1397
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Back, right, You're never gonna call at crazy. Somebody text

1398
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: me was like he's never gonna hire me, and I

1399
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: was like, no, you did a great job. Look that's

1400
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: why they hit you up.

1401
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 5: You're like, well I couldn't tell because you wouldn't impress

1402
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: you and saying nothing.

1403
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 6: Right, I'm like, bro, if I ain't say nothing, you

1404
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 6: did great.

1405
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, that's my last let me find something else

1406
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: to do with my life.

1407
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let make such another career.

1408
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 5: But it's hilarious. And so what has what has been

1409
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 5: the most impactful. Let me ask you this that y'all

1410
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: have conversations around kids. Did y'all say that, hey, we

1411
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 5: want to have two kids, three kids, one kids, we're

1412
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: going to wait five years after marriage? Like what was

1413
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 5: that conversation around kids?

1414
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, so we wanted kids immediately after and we

1415
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: we tried for three and a half years, almost four years.

1416
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: So it was I think photography, wedding photography kept us busy.

1417
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: We were always on the road. It like kept our

1418
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 3: minds busy. But every time we would see our couples,

1419
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: they got married, they got engaged, they got married, they

1420
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: had kids and we would like the whole journey.

1421
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: We saw the whole journey.

1422
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: It just made us also want that even more and

1423
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: I think I put a lot of stress on myself

1424
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: for it. Dream was always positive, it's going to happen,

1425
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: It's going to happen. But yeah, we really wanted kids.

1426
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: So we went through We went through IVF to have

1427
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: our son, and we got pregnant naturally.

1428
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 5: During that process, we hear that I'd be like, a

1429
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 5: waste of money, You go do all this one minute,

1430
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 5: next thing, No, God said, I got it. You should

1431
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 5: have told me I could to say about ten thousand dollars.

1432
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: It was just like a I think we learn about

1433
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 3: God's timing a lot. I think that was one of

1434
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: the things in our marriage is like God is God

1435
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: a final hour for us, the final hour, our wedding,

1436
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: our baby, our house, the final minute. A miracle just comes.

1437
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: Through every time.

1438
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: But we want more kids.

1439
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: Do you feel did you feel the pressure of family

1440
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 5: and friends telling y'all, Because it's always like it's the

1441
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 5: when are you when you're gonna get married, when you're

1442
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 5: gonna have kids. It's like it's always pushing you to

1443
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 5: the next thing that you feel the pressure of friends

1444
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 5: and family, even as you said your mom the man

1445
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 5: you bring them home is like, hey, give me grand bak.

1446
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 5: You know, it's like it's that push. Did you feel

1447
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 5: pressure from your friends and family?

1448
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: Never? I never did. I never. I never cared about Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1449
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: maybe did.

1450
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: You I think just being a woman, Yeah, I think,

1451
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: especially there is an age difference, and I was getting

1452
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: closer to that thirty five and a lot. I have

1453
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: friends who don't have kids yet, not married yet, So

1454
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't think I got I felt pressure from them,

1455
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: but just by strangers. Oh, where are you guys gonna

1456
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: have kids? You've been married this long, no kids? When

1457
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: the kids are coming? And I'm like, you don't know know.

1458
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: Where people you don't where people going to be sensitive,

1459
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: sensitive to it.

1460
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: So I I.

1461
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 3: Love to tell people about our journey and I love

1462
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: to help women, especially if we want more kids and

1463
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: we're not gonna let sign stop us or anything like

1464
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: we know God will make that happen.

1465
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: So but pressure from friends and family, No.

1466
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: I know my mom really wanted kids, his mom, his

1467
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: parents too, but it happened.

1468
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: Your season is your season.

1469
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 6: Nobody can tell you when, when or when not you

1470
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 6: should have, you know, kids, get married, get a house,

1471
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 6: all that good stuff. It's all. Everybody has their own season,

1472
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 6: you know. So I never let that pressure.

1473
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: And I feel like the timing of it, like as

1474
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: much as we wanted kids, or I really wanted a child.

1475
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 4: We were business working hard man.

1476
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't the time. It wasn't the time.

1477
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: See, even in this interview, I wanted to tiptoe around

1478
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 5: even asking about kids. I was like, I think they

1479
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 5: have a kid, but I'm not sure because the way

1480
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 5: you frame a question can cause trauma. If I can

1481
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 5: say so when y'all having kids, but you already said

1482
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 5: that y'all have a three year old, just celebrated the birthday.

1483
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 5: So I was like, cool, I can talk about kids,

1484
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 5: but I don't want to. I want to frame it

1485
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 5: where it's like, so, what was the conversation around having kids?

1486
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 5: Instead of saying, so the kid is only three years old?

1487
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 5: What took y'all so long? Like all that is a

1488
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 5: trump You're like, look at me, took me a long

1489
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 5: and realize it's bad. So I'll wait, let you say something,

1490
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 5: and then ask you what conversations that y'all have around kids?

1491
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 5: Because it could be a situation where say that y'all

1492
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 5: don't have kids, say that you want kids and he

1493
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 5: don't because he's so focused on working. He's like, this

1494
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 5: is not the time. I'm give me to year nine,

1495
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna have kids? And you like, that's so insensitive

1496
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 5: as a man when you don't know, I got to

1497
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 5: go talk to mynocologists and they're gonna be like, hey,

1498
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 5: you know you you you you in that whole space

1499
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 5: of a geriatric childbirth.

1500
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: You know that, right, And he like, don't listen to them.

1501
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: God got you.

1502
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 5: And You're like, but I'm going to be the one

1503
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 5: caring it. And then I say something, you know, out

1504
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 5: of ignorance, I'll just say it like that, not knowing

1505
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 5: how to frame a question, like so when y'all gonna

1506
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 5: have kids? And then you look looking at him like when,

1507
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: and he looked like to let the dude give.

1508
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: Us an argument.

1509
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 5: Regular, Yeah, y'all leave the studio. She was like, see,

1510
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 5: I told you people keep asking. You don't have to

1511
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 5: deal with all that. That's the whole argument, Your whole

1512
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 5: experience on Dear Future Wivy podcast a whole negative thing.

1513
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 5: And I was just like I just asked the question's

1514
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 5: wrong with all you gotta do?

1515
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: So they read it.

1516
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 6: That's how you know couple's never talked about it. If

1517
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 6: you ask a question and then we both go.

1518
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: So when you know that a couple and prepared for it,

1519
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh that was bad.

1520
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 4: What everybody? Well, ignore that last question.

1521
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: You know it's good out of that album.

1522
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 4: But I love that. I hear so many women talking.

1523
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: About IVF because it's so and then you will hear

1524
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 5: certain people. I remember I had people on my podcast,

1525
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 5: uh and about three years ago, and this one lady,

1526
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 5: she was a virgin, said that she's gonna freeze her eggs.

1527
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 5: She's forty. She was forty two years old or forty something.

1528
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 5: And then people was like, that's not a guy.

1529
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be freezing your eggs.

1530
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: That's losing faith God.

1531
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 5: If he wanted you to have kids, you to have

1532
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 5: kids now and all this, and I'd be like, well,

1533
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 5: y'all quit saying this is foolish. It's like, why are

1534
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 5: you saying that. I believe that modern technology is around

1535
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 5: for what it is. If that's the journey, it don't

1536
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 5: stop God from still doing it. God don't say ooh

1537
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 5: you froze your eggs Now I can't get you pregnant

1538
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 5: normal naturally, I can't do it on the messed up.

1539
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 5: I can't do it because you went and did that.

1540
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 4: God, be like, until you.

1541
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Go through it, you just you can. Because I said

1542
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna do IVF. I prayed against it so much.

1543
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 3: I prayed against a sea section. I had a sea section.

1544
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: And I remember I didn't even want to google sea

1545
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 3: section because I didn't want to even put that in

1546
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: your spirit, in my spirit because then you're but I

1547
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: had to go through one.

1548
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: But when you know that you're going.

1549
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: To carry a child earthside, like there's nothing everything changing

1550
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't do to get to that child, you know.

1551
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: So I, as I get older, I realized, you don't

1552
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: know what people go through. Yes even recently. We just

1553
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: recently experienced a loss of pregnancy loss. And it was

1554
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: like when you called, when you called reim, that got

1555
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 3: me out of bed to know that God is still

1556
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: alive and well and all right, let's gonna do this,

1557
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 3: but like you don't.

1558
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 6: Know we're here now, You're good, You're good.

1559
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 3: This podcast before no, because like the month of September

1560
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: was probably the hardest month, one of the toughest months

1561
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: I've gone through in a long time. And I was questioning, God, why, why?

1562
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: Why?

1563
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: But I think two days later, like spoke to you

1564
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 3: and you invited us here, and I was like why why?

1565
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 6: Was that was the question you get back when we

1566
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 6: got off from a call and I told saying that

1567
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 6: was like, ma, you know you got to be out

1568
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 6: there future wifey podcast, Like I didn't.

1569
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1570
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: I had to have surgery and everything.

1571
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: And I was like why. I'm like, don't ask why

1572
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 1: there it is, That's.

1573
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 3: Just that's just how seeing the couples on there, they

1574
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: got right, And I'm like, there you go comparing yourself

1575
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 3: it is.

1576
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, that's just how God works. And I'm like, ah, man,

1577
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,879
Speaker 6: now she crying. I was getting me emotional. I'm like, ah,

1578
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 6: you know, I don't like you know, you know what

1579
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 6: I'm saying, accountant right numbers.

1580
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 3: But there's a there's a timing for everything. There's there's God.

1581
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 3: I just knew that there had to be a bigger

1582
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 3: purpose and there's a lesson in it. And we're just

1583
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: gonna keep moving forward. We're gonna keep doing what we

1584
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: have to do. And we know that something, something big

1585
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: is gonna happen.

1586
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 5: So that is why white thing God got y'all on

1587
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 5: here today.

1588
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1589
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: I just think. I just think the hard work and

1590
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: the prayers and and just keeping our head down and

1591
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: just doing with truly what we love brought us here.

1592
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 3: And I'll always question God on that. But at the

1593
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: same time, I'm like, I knew that. I knew that

1594
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: he could do this. I know he could do more.

1595
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 3: And my mom watches the show. I told her, she

1596
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: was just like, Okay, Sandy, God, you see, don't play

1597
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: with God. God is a god. And yeah, there has

1598
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: to be a reason why we're here. And we just

1599
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: thank you so much for the opportunity and we can't

1600
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: wait to capture your beautiful wedding.

1601
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 6: And man, I'm looking forward to that. People ask people ask,

1602
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 6: you know, what's the secret?

1603
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: Man?

1604
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 6: You know, how do you get to where you are?

1605
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 6: What's the secret? What's the secret? What's the secret?

1606
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, there really is no secret. Man. I

1607
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: really don't hope.

1608
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 6: I don't sound cliche, but you really just got to

1609
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 6: keep working hard. I just knew that this is what

1610
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 6: I wanted to do. I just wanted to shoot weddings

1611
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 6: and work really hard at it, and Sandy knows I'm

1612
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 6: obsessed with with what we do. And when we got

1613
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,959
Speaker 6: this opportunity, I was just like, it's just a product

1614
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 6: of continuous hard work. You know, I didn't know that

1615
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 6: this was going to happen today. I didn't know that

1616
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: at you know, Tember thirty, twenty twenty five. Then I'll

1617
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 6: be on their Future WIFEI podcasts. But it's just a

1618
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 6: product of hard work. But it sounds so cliche, and

1619
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 6: it sounds so and if.

1620
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: We make it look like, yeah, a lot behind closed

1621
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 3: doors that people don't see, it's so much.

1622
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: Just because they look easy doesn't mean it is.

1623
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: He spends many nights not even home. These weddings are

1624
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 3: long long. For some reason, he's been getting like seventeen

1625
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: hour wedding days, like there was some reason something going

1626
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: longer and longer, and another state, there's just a lot of.

1627
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 5: Got a wedding to shoot right after shoot my wedding

1628
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 5: on the twenty second and gott be are you laying

1629
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 5: on the twenty third?

1630
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I said, how you gonna do that? That's none

1631
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: of your businesses?

1632
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: No, No, he's not.

1633
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna do it.

1634
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: He's gonna do it. Yeah, and he never complains, like never,

1635
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 3: I need a little headache.

1636
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, see how sensitive.

1637
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 5: So like what I said, I was like, well, dang,

1638
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna make sure I end a little early,

1639
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 5: let them out because.

1640
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: My bro.

1641
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 4: I would tell you some gona be transparent. So this

1642
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 4: is I was doing.

1643
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna.

1644
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 5: Do the the the send off a little early, Gonna

1645
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 5: do a mock send off so I can let Rhim

1646
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 5: go back to the hotel and if he want to

1647
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 5: book a flight to leave earlier, he can catch a

1648
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 5: red eye. But we're gonna do it the sent that's

1649
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 5: very thoughtful. Off early, and we'll tell everybody go outside

1650
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 5: and then we'll do the send off.

1651
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: We actually drive around, drive back around.

1652
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 5: Then we'll finish up the night, but we'll let him

1653
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 5: be done at that point.

1654
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: Wow, that's how my brain worked.

1655
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: You don't got it? Said that.

1656
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 5: I was like, but that's my brain. That's just how

1657
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 5: my brain worked.

1658
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 4: So I do that. And I was like, okay, that's

1659
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 4: what we'll do.

1660
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: You know, how we look at it, how he got

1661
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 3: how is his wedding.

1662
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: The only day that free on a Saturday?

1663
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,480
Speaker 3: Like, how was that day free on a Saturday?

1664
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: So we look at it was meant to be. That's

1665
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: how we look at it.

1666
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 5: Let me tell you this, because me and my fiance

1667
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 5: talked about this. We said, we only want people that's

1668
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 5: rocking with us. Even then was that we talked to

1669
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 5: if we called the venue and they were booked that day,

1670
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 5: So it wasn't that that we found a being. He said,

1671
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 5: hold on, how is this the only Saturday we had

1672
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: free at this venue? And I was like, it's ours.

1673
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 5: I mean every time it's been we normally I'm talking

1674
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 5: about even the rehearsal dinner. They were like, let me

1675
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 5: see we got this like this abnormal that we free

1676
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 5: on that Saturday. And I was just like, and I

1677
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 5: told her that. She was like, well we're playing this week.

1678
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 5: Everybody keeps saying you normally need six months to a

1679
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 5: year plan. I said, it's no way on God's green earth,

1680
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 5: I want to think about a wedding for a whole year.

1681
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: I just don't have time.

1682
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, done and be done.

1683
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 5: I said no, no, no, no, And then and then

1684
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 5: even that I said, with y'all I said, I mean,

1685
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 5: if he ain't available, he just he just he just

1686
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 5: can't do it, you know what I'm saying. And I said, well,

1687
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 5: we're just gonna try to figure it out. Our wedding

1688
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 5: planner sent an email saying that hey, we're going to

1689
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 5: have We're going to have a meeting with she was

1690
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 5: going to have a meeting with you without me, And

1691
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 5: I said, hold on, that's the guy I was just

1692
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 5: showing my fiance yesterday on YouTube. And she was like, oh, well, wow,

1693
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 5: I'm glad you're already liking stuff. And then she said,

1694
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna be on that call. She said,

1695
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 5: you want to? I said, absolutely, I want to be

1696
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 5: on this call. I said, I want to be on

1697
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 5: this call. She said okay. She already had it planned

1698
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 5: and everything, already had a photographer that was going to

1699
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 5: shoot the wedding for me free of charge, and they like,

1700
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 5: I got you, I'm doing it.

1701
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1702
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 5: We did this big thing in twenty twenty twenty where

1703
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 5: I gifted three couples to get married free during the pandemic,

1704
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 5: and I just paid for it. And then I did

1705
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 5: I had this thing on social media where my friends

1706
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 5: we did a gofund me and we paid for these

1707
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 5: three couples to have a group wedding. And then God

1708
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 5: told me one day, he said, you know what, since

1709
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 5: you look out for everybody else, I'm gonna take care

1710
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 5: of you when it's time to get When you tied,

1711
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: you know your time to get married. And I said,

1712
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 5: whatever I said, because I got some. My taste is

1713
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 5: a little high. I like the best of the best.

1714
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 5: He said, you think you serving a god, you can't

1715
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 5: out give me. Yeah, but I don't want to be

1716
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 5: let down. So then when I literally saw rem, it

1717
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 5: wasn't even a thought to even reach out to him.

1718
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I was like, oh, he cost too much.

1719
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 5: Not doing that, That's exactly what I did, I said,

1720
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 5: not doing it. I didn't DM him, I didn't reach out,

1721
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: I didn't inquire. I didn't look at a website. I

1722
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 5: didn't do nothing. And our call was the first time

1723
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 5: I looked at the website. I said, now, work, look,

1724
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 5: we're the website. And I started looking at it because

1725
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about him. I looked at his stuff.

1726
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 5: I said, I got this other lady that she's gonna

1727
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 5: shoot it for free. I see her work. She does

1728
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 5: great work. So then I end up saying, well, you know,

1729
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 5: if I talked to Ring, I said, all right, you

1730
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 5: can shoot our engagement shoot and then I got ream

1731
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 5: shooting this wedding.

1732
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

1733
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 5: But that's how it happened. I literally God had to

1734
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 5: push my faith to the level of Ring to be

1735
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 5: able to say I wanted this and that's and I

1736
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 5: talked to him.

1737
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we opened that, do I said, Ren.

1738
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: When I say my fiance.

1739
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 5: Was so happy, she said, oh please please, She said

1740
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 5: he's available. I said, yeah, he available, Well, I said.

1741
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 5: She was so excited. But when I saw y'all videos,

1742
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, they top notch. I said this,

1743
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 5: and I was telling me, I was like, this is what

1744
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 5: I'm talking about photography. This is the type of photography

1745
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 5: that I could rest in, where I could sit back

1746
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: and be like you got me.

1747
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: I ain't got to be the question did you get

1748
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 1: your shot?

1749
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1750
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 5: Type photograph you can rest and put that in the

1751
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 5: photographer you can rest in. This is an endorsement for

1752
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: Ring photography. This is the type of photography you can

1753
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 5: rest at. It bring photographer to stand for rest and

1754
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 5: so not just reliving. This stands for rest yes, that's

1755
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 5: what it was. Because I sat back and I said,

1756
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 5: as a photographer, I will be very ain't the watch

1757
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 5: like why didn't they shoot that? Why don't they do that?

1758
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: Why? Why?

1759
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, and my brain to be

1760
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 5: thinking like that. And then when I saw him, I said, Oh,

1761
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: I can just be a groom. I can just sit

1762
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 5: back and be like, oh, he gonna capture. All I

1763
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 5: gotta do is stay in the moment and let him

1764
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 5: capture that moment. And then I said, oh, I'm in

1765
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 5: good hands.

1766
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Period.

1767
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: You don't know what God is on behind doors behind

1768
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: and we've been doing this ten years and it's.

1769
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna come back and answer the question about

1770
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 5: why God got y'all here. He got y'all here because

1771
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 5: it's twofold a to see a kingdom couple know how

1772
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 5: to do business together where they are able to respect

1773
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 5: and admire each other's strengths and weaknesses. The other part

1774
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 5: about how we got to the very end about IVV,

1775
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 5: if you understood how many women deal with that. My

1776
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 5: daughter just gave birth to my first grandchild in August

1777
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: August of fifteenth, and she struggled so much during her

1778
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 5: pregnancy she ended up having a dermoid cyst. The first

1779
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 5: year she was married, she had a drmoid cyst that

1780
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 5: took away her whole right ovary. And now here's my

1781
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 5: first time hearing a woman share the complexities and the

1782
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 5: pain of childbirth or the desire to have kids and

1783
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 5: trying to reconcile whether or not they are able to

1784
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 5: have kids. So I'm talking to my daughter and she's sharing, said, Dad,

1785
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what I would do if I could

1786
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 5: never have a kid. And I said, and I want

1787
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 5: the man explaining away and be like, well, listen, your

1788
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 5: value is greater just giving kids or whatever, and you

1789
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 5: don't have to wear And I sat down. I said,

1790
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 5: just don't try to solve it. Just listen to it.

1791
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 5: And I listened to her crow on that phone, and

1792
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 5: I shed tears and I cried, and then I began

1793
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 5: to war in prayer. I had two people that were

1794
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: going through that situation at the same time, and just

1795
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 5: on the transparent standpoint. Even my fiance was freezing her

1796
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 5: eggs around that time, and this before we were just

1797
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 5: friends at that time, and so she was freezing the eggs.

1798
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 5: My friend Brandon and Destiny, they just had another miscarriage,

1799
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 5: and my daughter had that DERMOI assist that took away

1800
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 5: her ovary, all in the same a month apart from

1801
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 5: each other, and I began to pray. I was alive

1802
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 5: one day on Instagram and I was in the parking lot.

1803
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 5: People probably don't even where I was in the parking

1804
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 5: lot of the hospital where my daughter was about to

1805
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 5: go get have surgery and cause at first they thought

1806
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 5: it was like a little little cist or something. And

1807
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 5: that thing was a five pound dermoid cyst that ate away.

1808
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 5: I don't even know what the dermoids cists was. I

1809
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 5: had to research it. It grows hair, it grows to me.

1810
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 4: It does all.

1811
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 5: I said, what in the world things it's eating off

1812
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 5: of you?

1813
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, my God, that's in my daughter.

1814
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: And so I sat in that parking lot and I

1815
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 5: began to war in the spirit. I began to pray

1816
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 5: about I said, I'm tired of the devil coming against

1817
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 5: the wounds of kingdom couples and trying to stop us

1818
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 5: from giving birth to destiny. And I began to pray

1819
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: and pray and pray and war in the spirit. And

1820
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 5: I went in there, and then the doctor told my daughter.

1821
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 5: He's like, hey, listen, if you really want to have kids,

1822
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 5: y'all better get at it, like right now.

1823
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't understand.

1824
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 5: We've been trying all the time, and so she said,

1825
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 5: all right, let's be intentional. Had a couple of miscarriages

1826
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 5: along the way up until last year, and then ended

1827
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 5: up sticking this time. And I was like, I was like,

1828
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too excited. I'm gonna sit back.

1829
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let her just go through her journey and

1830
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 5: she'll come on here and she'll share her full story.

1831
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 4: But August the fifteenth.

1832
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 5: Our child was due on September the fifteenth, and they said,

1833
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 5: we gotta go ahead and induce labor because you're at

1834
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 5: the cusp of pre and clamsia.

1835
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 4: Because her blood pressure was high.

1836
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 5: So they said, hey, we're gonna go induce labor, but

1837
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 5: we needed to get too closer to the fifteen whatever

1838
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 5: that week is. They said we needed to get two

1839
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 5: more days. And then that third day they were able

1840
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 5: to induce it because it was it was just she

1841
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 5: was dilating so solo, and then she started dilating that

1842
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 5: third day. Boom child was born on the fifteenth, healthy,

1843
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 5: that she didn't have to stay and the nick you

1844
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 5: at all just healthy came home. Claire Elizabeth, the whitest

1845
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 5: name she could find. Make sure she is employable when

1846
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,480
Speaker 5: she gets older. So Claire Elizabeth.

1847
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: So that's my grand baby.

1848
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 4: That's a test one.

1849
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: So that's why you Oh yeah, yeah, because I honestly so.

1850
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: After we had our son, we told God we would

1851
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: never ever complain about having a child again. We have

1852
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 3: the embryo that we were supposed to put back in

1853
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: it's been frozen for since twenty twenty one, and we

1854
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: know that he would do it naturally, and that's what happened.

1855
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: But I was so shocked. I spent two and a

1856
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: half months shocked that I was pregnant naturally out of nowhere,

1857
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 3: like we had just finished No, seriously, like I just

1858
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 3: could not believe it. And it wasn't until we saw

1859
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: several heartbeats we were good. I started to say, Okay, God,

1860
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: I guess you're gonna do this. I guess I'm a

1861
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: normal woman who can conceive naturally. And it got stripped

1862
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: from me and I questioned God a lot, and I

1863
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: was like, God, there has to be a bigger thing

1864
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: that you have for me because why would you let

1865
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: me see heartbeats and get excited? And I told you,

1866
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 3: I just want to know how it feels to accidentally

1867
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: get pregnant. A lot of women don't don't understand how

1868
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: how big of a blessing that is. Women are trying

1869
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: over and over and there's an attack on fruitfulness right now,

1870
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: there is there has to be this story is either

1871
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 3: women are not getting married not you know, they don't

1872
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: even know if they're going to see meet a man

1873
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 3: they're doing, single mother by choice, or married couples who

1874
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 3: are like when women and I got before we got married,

1875
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: we were we abstained for over a year. We didn't

1876
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: even kiss till the till the wedding. We spent over

1877
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 3: a year and a half not kissing because we're like

1878
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 3: we want to be obedient. Forgives for everything we did.

1879
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: And it was like I don't know if I felt

1880
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 3: like that was okay, God, you you.

1881
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 5: I own this. I mean I deserve this. Now I

1882
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 5: honored you in this, and this is this is the repayment.

1883
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 3: Like there's people that don't try, there's people that are

1884
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 3: on drugs that get pregnant. Like it was just so

1885
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 3: many things. I just say why, why me? I've been

1886
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: through infertility. Why would you take this from me right now?

1887
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie. I was in bed and

1888
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 3: Reim said, we're going on this podcast and I said, pushing.

1889
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: You gotta keep pushing, you gotta. Yeah, I don't think I.

1890
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 3: Was going to say this on this podcast today, but

1891
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: women like we need to take control of our fertility.

1892
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 3: And Ream said something good too, because we went to

1893
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 3: the doctor last week just so we can, you know,

1894
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 3: get back and he said, why are they only talking

1895
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 3: to you? Why why you can say this?

1896
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: We can get into that and get into it. He's

1897
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: like yeah, he.

1898
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 3: Was like, that is not just want them to say everything,

1899
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: like the whole I only got to go in and

1900
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: do one thing you have to do scraping up your uterus.

1901
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 3: Just all these tests.

1902
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 6: And then the guy they talked to them for ten seconds.

1903
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 6: We're just going to get a sperm sample and well

1904
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 6: just see.

1905
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: How it's going.

1906
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: My majority of miscarriagters is caused by the man.

1907
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it could be, but like, yeah, I know, no.

1908
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah.

1909
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 6: I think I think that's why a lot of couples

1910
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 6: get misinformed, because the focus is so much on the

1911
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 6: woman that the guy doesn't think he needs to put

1912
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 6: into work, put in the work for himself.

1913
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah so.

1914
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 6: Literally yeah, so like when they say so many things

1915
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 6: about the women, the women, the woman, the woman, but

1916
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: they have no they don't they don't talk to the guy.

1917
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 6: So the guy just thinks that he can just go

1918
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 6: about his regular day and it has nothing to do

1919
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 6: with him. But the sperm has every much to do

1920
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 6: with fertility as much the woman does. It's probably even

1921
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 6: more so. So when I heard that, all I kept

1922
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 6: thinking was like, man, she hasn't asked me any questions

1923
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 6: yet she has to ask the guy nothing, nothing, nothing

1924
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 6: like what are you eating? You know, what was your

1925
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 6: last sperm test? All that good stuff. It's it's very

1926
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 6: important that we get tested as well, and we do

1927
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 6: our part because if if our sperm isn't good and

1928
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 6: the sperm and egg meat it's not good for that

1929
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 6: defeat is in the DNA, and that's how a lot

1930
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 6: of miscarriages happened.

1931
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so I'm glad you actually gave voice to that,

1932
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 5: because again, you're absolutely right, and even the loss of

1933
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 5: a kid through a miscarriage or whatever it So I

1934
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I'm so sorry you had to go

1935
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 5: do that. And he just said over that to the woman.

1936
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 5: He's just over just like so sorry. He just didn't

1937
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 5: like he like he didn't feel nothing, Like he's not traumatized,

1938
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 5: Like he's not hurt, Like he's not afraid of trying

1939
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: again either.

1940
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I'm.

1941
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: Just when we got the oh there's no heartbeat, the

1942
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: look on his face and Reim holds it.

1943
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: All together because I had to be strong for her.

1944
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: But your face, I don't think we ever imagine that

1945
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 3: we could ever hear those words like you going like okay,

1946
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 3: we're going to see how big and you know it

1947
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 3: started looking it looked like started looking like a baby

1948
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 3: and no heartbeat, realm face like I had to ask

1949
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 3: him for several days, are you okay?

1950
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: Are you good?

1951
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Like I know this is me, but are you good?

1952
01:28:58,600 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 4: How did you feel? Realm in that moment?

1953
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1954
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 6: Man, uh, miserable, devastated. But it's like, as a man,

1955
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 6: you have to you have to feel strong.

1956
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because because what you're about to start doing

1957
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 5: is showing what we were taught you gotta be tough.

1958
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: See I felt see as a man, you're supposed to

1959
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: hold it yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's the point I

1960
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: was going to get to. You know, how did you feel? Right?

1961
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: I felt?

1962
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 6: I felt devastated, But society wants you as a man

1963
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 6: to hold it up and be strong. You get what

1964
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So no, I was. I was torn apart,

1965
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 6: you know, I was. I was devastated. I was miserable,

1966
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 6: and I wanted her to know that as well, that

1967
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 6: I'm very sad as well, and I don't want her

1968
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 6: to feel so like that I'm that I'm so strong

1969
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 6: and confident about this, that she that that that she

1970
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 6: doesn't think I'm hurting as well, because I think.

1971
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: That gives her level of comfort.

1972
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 6: So because I was so hurt, I think that gave

1973
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 6: her a sense of peace as well in some weird way.

1974
01:29:58,680 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? You know?

1975
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 4: So?

1976
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 5: So why why why do we say I have to

1977
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 5: be strong for her?

1978
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

1979
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know.

1980
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what narrative that's that's created, because like I.

1981
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 5: Say, I have a I have a family member to say,

1982
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 5: I'm married to somebody, their mother passed away.

1983
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 4: And we both experienced the loss. Now I gotta be strong?

1984
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 5: What what Does that mean I'm not supposed to grieve,

1985
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 5: I'm not supposed to cry, or I'm supposed to cry

1986
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 5: just a little bit?

1987
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Or am I supposed to wait three days before I cried?

1988
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 4: What does that?

1989
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great question.

1990
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 6: I mean, my mother passed away last year and sorry

1991
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 6: to hear that, King, thank you, thank And I think

1992
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 6: I think Sandy great me if I'm wrong, I was

1993
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 6: trying that was Yeah, that.

1994
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 3: Was probably the hardest thing in our marriage that we

1995
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: ever had to deal with, because.

1996
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: He is so strong.

1997
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's hard for people to really read what

1998
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 6: I'm going through. So I think she was trying to

1999
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 6: navigate the best way she can to be strong for me,

2000
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 6: because I've always been strong for her, So I can

2001
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 6: kind of tell that she was not trying to be like,

2002
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 6: you know, are you okay? Do you want to go

2003
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 6: out and eat? Like what's going on in your mind?

2004
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 6: And because I knew that I was accepting of it,

2005
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 6: and I was trying to just make sure that she

2006
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 6: was like.

2007
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm okay.

2008
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 4: How did you process that?

2009
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Man?

2010
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 6: Ago processing the death or be hinded? You never did

2011
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 6: you have a breakdown moment?

2012
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

2013
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 4: All the time. Okay, what she ever see it?

2014
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: No, never seen, never seen it. A lady, a lady.

2015
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: And I thank God for this woman on this on

2016
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 3: the plane met uh she said, you said.

2017
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 2: She was in her seventies.

2018
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Maybe she was the sixties seventies.

2019
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Flying back sign to Florida to watch her great her grandchildren.

2020
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 3: And she's having a conversation with and ream says he

2021
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 3: he's always just trying to take a little nap. It

2022
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: comes from wedding. The uber driver always talking to him.

2023
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Somebody on the plane. I was talking to him and

2024
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 3: this woman just was having a conversation and she went

2025
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: about talking about her kids. Got to her grandkids take

2026
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 3: the bus and she don't know why they take the bus.

2027
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 3: And she was like, you did you take the bus

2028
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 3: as a child, and Riheim said, no, my that was

2029
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 3: one thing my mother did not want us to do.

2030
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 3: And he broke down. Yeah, it's like it was like

2031
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 3: the smallest like my mom made sure I never took

2032
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:33,879
Speaker 3: the bus.

2033
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2034
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 6: When she when she was like when she said that,

2035
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 6: I was like, she was like, oh man, you better

2036
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 6: go home and kiss your mom right now. That's what

2037
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 6: you said verbatim. I'll never forget she said, you better

2038
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 6: go home and kiss your mom right now. I was like, ah,

2039
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 6: I can't. You got me, I can't right now?

2040
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it's like I said, it's the little things.

2041
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 6: Like I called my dad on his birthday and like

2042
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what you're doing today? And He'll go,

2043
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 6: you know, I'm cooking. I'm cooking omelet today. You know

2044
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,799
Speaker 6: me her favorite food was me and and her omelet.

2045
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 6: So I'm just making that for her right now. And

2046
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 6: I was like, ah, say, any take the phone.

2047
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna walk out right now.

2048
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 5: And yeah, King the King, why hasn't your wife saw

2049
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 5: that level of vulnerability for you to say it just

2050
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 5: broke down. The lady of the plane saw it. You'll

2051
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 5: walk off and take a walk. What is it? And

2052
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 5: what have you been taught? What do you feel you're

2053
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 5: using language that we've all been taught be strong for

2054
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 5: her and all that while she's going through what she

2055
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 5: goes through. You just went through the loss of the

2056
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 5: matriarch of your family, your mom. Why do you feel

2057
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 5: like she can't see that?

2058
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's nothing

2059
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 6: I've been taught. It's this kind of like you're like

2060
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 6: pre wired as a man to be tough for a woman,

2061
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 6: and if you show that level of vulnerability, I don't

2062
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 6: know what it is that that society has shaped us

2063
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 6: to be. It just makes us feel like we can't

2064
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 6: show that side of us, Like we can't. I always

2065
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 6: said that I'm never gonna cry on camera. That was

2066
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 6: always my thing, like, I'm never gonna show tears on camera.

2067
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 6: You think I'm gonna sit here and have a camera

2068
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 6: record me and I have tears falling down my eyes. Nah,

2069
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 6: I've got time for that, you know. But you're about

2070
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 6: to be a meaning here.

2071
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2072
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 6: The more I've grown and the more I realized, I'm like, no,

2073
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 6: it's okay, you know what I'm saying. So I've shared

2074
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 6: with Sandy multiple times that you know, I've broken.

2075
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: Down, and I think it's more than that. I think

2076
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: she's seen it now.

2077
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: Reem has a mister positivity thing that he's always had. Honestly,

2078
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: even his sister tells told him around the time that

2079
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 3: his mom was sick and was like, you're fake, you

2080
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 3: have you're too positive. Yeah, He's always been that way,

2081
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 3: and even with me, I'm always like I show and

2082
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 3: it's maybe because the way I was raised, I'm a woman,

2083
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm very emotional, and Reim is always there for me

2084
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: to kind of like, okay, you got this. But for himself,

2085
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 3: he has to be mister positive. He can't let things

2086
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 3: get in the way because he has a goal. And

2087
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: I think sometimes even if he has a moment where

2088
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 3: he's crying and all that stuff like it could it

2089
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 3: could affect him more. He has this goal to be

2090
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 3: strong for us, our son the business, because that was

2091
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 3: the first when his mom passed away, that was the

2092
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 3: first time he had to he couldn't attend a wedding

2093
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 3: like he had to.

2094
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: He had to. We sent our team and everything, but

2095
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 2: they wanted him.

2096
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 6: And you can give me any reason, I'm still gonna

2097
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 6: be like, yeah, I'm gonna make it happened.

2098
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 3: He went to a wedding immediately after the funeral. He

2099
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 3: got on a flight and but that was the same

2100
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 3: thing that made him so tough on himself because he

2101
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time not seeing it mom because

2102
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 3: he was always traveling and his Momkes never said she

2103
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 3: understood and that you know, she was his biggest fan.

2104
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: So I think even now he's like, I have to

2105
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 3: keep going for her, but the same thing that you

2106
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 3: kept going for you. You feel like dang I didn't

2107
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: get to see her. But he has this like just

2108
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 3: mister positive. Gotta like Kream didn't believe in depression when

2109
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 3: we met. He didn't believe in stress. He didn't believe stress. No,

2110
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 3: he didn't. He's like, I don't understand why you stressed?

2111
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: Don't you still gotta do it? Like I get like,

2112
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 3: I get it. Oh wow, doesn't show stress? He don't.

2113
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: You never you didn't believe?

2114
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought I thought stress was more of a choice,

2115
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 6: but like stress is something you actually feel.

2116
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: Stressed.

2117
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,520
Speaker 3: Stress you like he said, I think you're stressed?

2118
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: He did, He doesn't. He just didn't believe in it.

2119
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I was just like, how you don't believe in stress?

2120
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 3: It's a thing to do it.

2121
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: He goes, I have to do it right, here's coming.

2122
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 4: Stress everything stress.

2123
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Stress.

2124
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 3: I think the emotion goes hand in hand with him

2125
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 3: not feeling like something can stop him from if he

2126
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 3: gets too sad, too emotional, and he probably can't get

2127
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 3: the edits out. He can't talk to this client, he

2128
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 3: can't play with his son, he can't do what to

2129
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: make our relationship. So I think it's more than just

2130
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 3: being a man and being strong, like you literally do

2131
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 3: anything to mess up your focus on being positive.

2132
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 5: And so many men deal with that, And that's why

2133
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 5: I believe that that's why men died earlier than women,

2134
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 5: because yeah, you're carrying all of that weight, and they

2135
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 5: just don't have the place or don't feel like they

2136
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 5: have the grace to just be human. Well, I think

2137
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 5: the most powerful thing that Jesus did, even in the

2138
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 5: Garden of Yosemite, he showed fear.

2139
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 4: He said, Father, what have you forsaken me?

2140
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 5: And it said that he cried so hard that and

2141
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 5: he sweated so hard that blood was in his sweat

2142
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 5: and was in his tears. When you are that afraid

2143
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 5: where you're you're sweating and crying blood, it's a deep, deep.

2144
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,919
Speaker 4: Rooted fear and anguish.

2145
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 5: With men, we carry all of that and then we

2146
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 5: have heart attacks, have strokes, uh, and we pass away.

2147
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 5: This man is carrying the weight of his family. This

2148
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 5: man lost a child with you, this man lost his mother,

2149
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 5: and be like, yep, I still got to hold together.

2150
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: I gotta be strong for you.

2151
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 5: And it'll be like, no, you you can cry, It's okay,

2152
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 5: it's okay, because it's gonna come out. It's gonna come

2153
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 5: out on an airplane. It's gonna come out with the

2154
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 5: uper driver. You're gonna come out with your Daddy're gonna

2155
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 5: walk down the street and them sidewalk, have your tears

2156
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 5: trailing in front of you as you begin to cry

2157
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 5: that it's going to come out. And so that's what

2158
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 5: I want is for men to get the permission. I

2159
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 5: remember when I cried on the podcast one day and

2160
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 5: a lot of men DM is like, man, say man,

2161
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 5: that right.

2162
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: They touched me, bro.

2163
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 5: They said, I've never I remember one country reached out

2164
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 5: to me. I was in Jamaica. They said, the men

2165
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 5: in Jamaica never cry like you do. Not cry you Jamaica. Yeah,

2166
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 5: end of the episode, there is dang. That's why I.

2167
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Got you. Yea.

2168
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,799
Speaker 5: Their programmed to not be emotional like that.

2169
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 4: That's just how it is.

2170
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 5: And so they was telling me that I did my

2171
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 5: first retreat in Jamaica and they was like, uh, this

2172
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 5: one lady used to this girl. She would make the

2173
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 5: guys that she date watched the episodes because she was like,

2174
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 5: I want to show them that they can be softer,

2175
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 5: they can be this. But they're program to be providers.

2176
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 5: Take care of your family. Don't cry. I ain't nothing

2177
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Speaker 5: to cry about. Get yourself together and and wipe your eyes.

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Speaker 5: As matter of fact, we're real young, even in America,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of times they say boys, don't cry.

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01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 5: You can fall off the monkey bars, land on your head,

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01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 5: neck broke, and they want you cry. You suck it up.

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01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 5: Suck it up, like suck it up to either.

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Speaker 1: It's like that.

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Speaker 5: It's like, how are you programmed not to cry when

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01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 5: something hurts? It's just so it goes against all humanity.

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01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 5: And so we're training men not to be humans but

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01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 5: to be machines. And when you start operating as a machine,

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01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 5: then you don't give space for your humanity. And now

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01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 5: you're just one You're just a one emotion person. And

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Speaker 5: then that person can show you anger, but can't show

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01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: you hurt. You know, that person can show you optimism

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01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 5: and and hope.

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Speaker 1: Like Reem is. But he's like, I just lost my

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01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: child too, Like that's my child.

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01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 5: I had dreams and ambitions and goals for this kid,

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01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 5: and and I lost a kid and be like to

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Speaker 5: be strong for her, Be like, no, you experienced a

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01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 5: loss too, And so I want this episode to speak

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Speaker 5: to men, to let them know that you have emotions

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01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 5: for a reason. We still got tear ducks. You know,

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01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 5: they're there for a reason. They should work. I remember,

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01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 5: and I'll conclude on this my dad. I went to

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01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 5: my grandma's funeral years ago and I watched my dad.

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01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 5: I've never seen my dad cry day in his life.

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01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 5: And he got up there on that thing and he

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01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 5: got up there to go speak. Then she had a

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01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 5: tear or whatever. And I asked, my said, you don't

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01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 5: like your mama, but what happened?

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Speaker 1: How did you need not cry?

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01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 5: He was just like, I mean, I just just yeah,

2211
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 5: And I just said wow.

2212
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: And I sat there and I said, this is interesting.

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01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 5: And the one time I saw my dad cry was

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01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 5: a few years later when my sister half sister, that's

2215
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 5: what you want to call it, but my sister, through

2216
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 5: my daughter, through my dad in Houston. She was like,

2217
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 5: I always wanted to have Thanksgiving with our dad.

2218
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:57,759
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna make that happen.

2219
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 5: So I forced my daddy hurst them just getting this car,

2220
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna go here, and our family went down to

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01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 5: have Thanksgiving. He was afraid that she didn't like him.

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01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 5: Because he was not a part of of her life.

2223
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 5: And as soon as you opened the door, she grabbed

2224
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 5: me and hugged him. He broke down, crying and walked

2225
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 5: away and took that walk and its men are programmed

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01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 5: to go take that walk, walk away, walk away. And

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01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 5: then I asked him he came back. I said, why

2228
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 5: did you walk away? He said, I was just overcome emotions.

2229
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 5: I just didn't want to. I just I just had

2230
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 5: started crying. I had to walk away. Said why can't you.

2231
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: Just stay there and cry, Just just stand there, be

2232
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: held by her and cry.

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01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 4: He was just like, I don't know.

2234
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 3: We've made progress. He's a lot better to this day.

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01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 3: I asked him, are you okay? Kobe passed away? Because Kobe,

2236
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 3: I just I was like, she'd be like, you want

2237
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 3: to cry. I'm like, you know right now, but.

2238
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: If I do.

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01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 4: You look now, I'm about to cry. Six thirty years

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Speaker 4: I got to so.

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01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, good, like Kobe's not here, Like, yeah, Kobe's

2242
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 3: my favorite player, right, you know?

2243
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 6: Because when he died, I cried, you did yeah, by

2244
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 6: yourself with somebody who by myself?

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01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying?

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01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2247
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Like why he says he still asked you that. She said, yeah, yeah,

2248
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: so I knew like.

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01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 3: I would definitely say that is definitely one of the

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Speaker 3: things that have been one of the only challenges was

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01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 3: the passing of his mom and working through those emotions

2252
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,759
Speaker 3: with him, just him knowing I'm here, but also giving

2253
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 3: him the space. And I'm honestly very thankful for that

2254
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 3: woman that asked him that question on the plane.

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01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it broke something and he told.

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01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 3: Me about it, and it made him realize, like the

2257
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 3: little things like this is going to be a journey

2258
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 3: of grief journey. And I lost my dad thirteen years

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01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 3: ago and we spoke about it all. I talked to

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01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 3: him all the time about my dad, trying to just

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01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 3: so he can have a peace know a little bit

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01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: about my dad because my dad reminds me a lot

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01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 3: of him.

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01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: So or he reminds you a lot about your dad.

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01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 2: Here reminds me a lot about my dad.

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01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that kod Or?

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01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 5: How omniscient God is, how all knowing he is that

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01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 5: he'll say, hmm, here it is, and You'll look back

2269
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 5: and be like, Daddy, God you got me. My father

2270
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 5: got me, My heavenly father got me because he blessed

2271
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 5: me with a husband that can cover men sound like

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01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 5: they have similar characteristics and traits as my father.

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01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 1: And that's how awesome God is.

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Speaker 5: How can we support you where y'all social media handles

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Speaker 5: and as we conclude.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you can follow us at photos by

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Speaker 6: Rhem on Instagram, reemphotography dot com.

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01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,919
Speaker 1: It's our website and personal.

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01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 3: On social media's yes, my personal social My personal social

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Speaker 3: media is the Sandy.

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Speaker 1: Virgo and my personal is Kareem Virgo. And so I

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01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,759
Speaker 1: want y'all to DM them.

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01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 5: Definitely DM Sandy a lot of women that are going

2284
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 5: went through this journey of IVF for feeling the loss

2285
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 5: of a child, and let her know that you resonated

2286
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 5: with a story, show love. Follow those that are getting married,

2287
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 5: you have these monumentals occasions. Reach out to Ring Photography,

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Speaker 5: book them.

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Speaker 4: They are the best.

2290
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 5: Go look on YouTube, subscribe to the YouTube channel.

2291
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 4: It will blow your.

2292
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 5: Mind about how much detailed they put behind their work.

2293
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 5: And this first class I mean top notch photography, top

2294
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 5: notch videography, top notch storytelling. And y'all know I'm a

2295
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 5: storyteller and so I admire people who know how to

2296
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 5: capture storytelling be a photography or videography and ring photography.

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Is exactly that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you.

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01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: So much, thank you so much.

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01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 5: Listen, thank y'all for blessing Dear Future WIFEI podcast. I

2301
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 5: was expecting this only be an hour Rihanna, where we

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01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 5: are about two hours?

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01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2304
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 5: One, so we was chopping it up. So yeah, yeah,

2305
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 5: this was powerful. Anything I like to say folk.

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01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 3: Clue, No, we love what you're doing. Keep doing it.

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01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 3: We're so blessed. And to be sitting on the yellow couch. Yes,

2308
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 3: and you're going to keep touching so many people, so,

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01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 3: I mean you already have, but it's just it's just

2310
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 3: gonna keep going, especially with your wife.

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01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's gonna be my co host.

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01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, I cannot wait.

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01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: That like breaking news right now.

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01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:23,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I've been telling.

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01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I said that my Essence article when they

2316
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 5: did the story about my engagement. I said she's gonna

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01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 5: be my co that's amazing. January the first season eleven.

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01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and y'all and you're listen, I'm i gonna say

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01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 5: it to people. I let them know. The picture that

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01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 5: you'll probably take out the wedding will be the thumbnail.

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01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 4: That's on our on all our on our.

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01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 5: Banner, YouTube banner, and on the graphics for the thumbnails

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01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 5: for each episode or whatever.

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01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 1: So wow, that's crazy.

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01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, no pressure, no pressure at all, No pressure.

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01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,799
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, honestly, I'm just thankful that we're here.

2328
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 6: Like I said, I can't believe that this is happening.

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01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 6: And it just aligns perfectly with what we do, because

2330
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 6: what we do is capture love, right and you have

2331
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 6: to sit here and talk to different couples and learn

2332
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 6: about their love story. So I just feel like it's

2333
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 6: just a full circle moment.

2334
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 5: So that's what intentional God is. It is, absolutely y'all

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01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 5: give it up for the virgos.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, thank thanks so much.

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01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 5: Stay tuned to the end for a letter to my

2338
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 5: future wife.

2339
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Writing these love letters.

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01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 5: Ladarian thrust it suddenly into child protective services in twenty fifteen.

2341
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: My nephew, Black, a.

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01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 5: Boy the likelihood have been adopted outside of kinship, Slim

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01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 5: the nne rmione, sixteen years old, Black a boy with

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01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 5: five years in the fossil care system before I even

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01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 5: knew his name. The likelihood have ever been the doctor it? Yep,

2346
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 5: you guessed it. Slim to none while Ladarian and our

2347
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 5: MONI were trying to survive and barely thrive in an

2348
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 5: overpopulated and underfunded Falseter care system. I was living my

2349
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 5: own life, doing well professionally, having been a single father

2350
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 5: with a daughter who at that point was doing well

2351
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 5: in college. It was my time to live my life right.

2352
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 3: Wrong.

2353
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 5: I felt unsettled, tireless, agitated. There are just too many

2354
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 5: of our Black children stuck in ambiguity and in the

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01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 5: limbo of the Falseter care system. In twenty seventeen, I

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01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,959
Speaker 5: legally adopted my nephew Ladarian.

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01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty nineteen.

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01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 5: I had no ties to this other young king, but

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01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 5: I felt God instructed me to adopt them also in

2360
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 5: al Babe, starting over with parenting should have been enough. Right,

2361
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 5: Working with various foster care and adoption agencies to help

2362
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 5: bring awareness to the countless young Black kings and the

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01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 5: Falster care system should have decreased my agitation. Right joined

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01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 5: the board of the Rectors of Advantage of Adoption, an

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01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 5: organization that helps find permanent adoptive homes for children, and

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01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 5: Falter Care should have led to some type of resolve.

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01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 5: No, not at all. None of it felt like I

2369
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 5: had done enough. I now realized that every one of

2370
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 5: those experiences was land the fundamental foundation for my life's mission.

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Speaker 1: Kingdom Royale.

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01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 5: Kingdom Royal would be a luxury, state of the art

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01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 5: home for foster boys. Our first location will be in

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01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 5: the Dallas Fortwork Metroplex. We will utilize the whole person

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01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 5: approach that instills identity, empowers them to advocate for themselves,

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01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 5: and enlightens them regarding new perspectives and limitless options that

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01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 5: they thought were impossible. Though the young Kings will attend

2378
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 5: the local public schools that are in proximity to Kingdom Royal.

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01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 5: Our at home curriculum will broaden their worldview through participating

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01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 5: in the arts, attending various cultural events, learning about and

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01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 5: engaging and multifaceted the discussions about current events and even

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01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 5: relevant historical contexts, introducing them to gardening and landscaping, and

2383
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 5: even caring for our animals on our form and on

2384
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 5: site stables. We just launched our startup capital campaign with

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01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 5: the goal of raising two point eight million dollars. Now

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01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:18,440
Speaker 5: why two point eight million dollars?

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01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 5: In twenty seventeen, I created a web series in which

2389
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 5: I performed random acts of kindness for targeting the homeless community.

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01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 5: One of the most notable successes was that one of

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Speaker 5: the videos went.

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Speaker 1: Viral, garnering twenty eight million views.

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Speaker 5: However, one of my biggest regrets is that I didn't

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Speaker 5: raise a single dollar to help in implementing a more

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Speaker 5: sustainable plan for the homeless community. So throughout the years,

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Speaker 5: with much remorse, I reflect that I'm not maximizing that moment.

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Speaker 1: I knew if at that.

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Speaker 5: Time just ten percent of the viewers donated one dollar,

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Speaker 5: we would have raised at least two point eight million

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Speaker 5: dollars that could have really established long term support for

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Speaker 5: the homeless community, or at lead started a long term

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Speaker 5: initiative to do so. This is my do over, this

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Speaker 5: is our new beginning. Together, we can attack this at

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Speaker 5: the root by specifically helping our homeless Black boys who

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Speaker 5: are already disproportionately represented in the American fossil care system.

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Speaker 1: I'm the Terrysarwickfield.

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Speaker 5: I've been nominated for three regional Emmys documenting my work

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Speaker 5: with the homeless as well as my personal adoption journey.

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Speaker 5: Despite those accolades, the greatest award for me is truly

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Speaker 5: providing the infrastructure for a transformed life. Visit Kingdomroyal dot

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Speaker 5: donation today. This episode is phenomenal. I love how the

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Speaker 5: virgos you know went there talked about the complexities of childbirth,

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Speaker 5: their journey of faith, the moment of doubt. I love

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Speaker 5: their reem talked about how men aren't really taught or

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Speaker 5: feel like they have a safe space to share their fears, hurt, sorrows,

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Speaker 5: and we just need to unlearn some of those things. Well,

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Speaker 5: here's my favorite part of the podcast where I speak

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Speaker 5: to my future wife here, dear future wife, here, before

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Speaker 5: I ever meet the child we will raise, I already

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Speaker 5: bless the place where they will be formed.

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Speaker 1: Your womb.

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Speaker 4: I speak life over it now.

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Speaker 5: May it be a sanctuary of miracles, a sacred garden

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Speaker 5: where God plants the seeds of our love and brings

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Speaker 5: forth fruit.

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Speaker 4: And it's perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: I pray your womb will never know the sorrow of barrenness,

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Speaker 5: but only the joy of divine conception.

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Speaker 1: May it be covered by the same God.

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Speaker 5: Who opens Sarah, strengthened Hannahs, and bless Elizabeth. I believe

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Speaker 5: that when Heaven breathes on your womb legacy will be

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Speaker 5: birth children will who will carry our name, our prayers,

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Speaker 5: and our purpose into generations we will never see. And

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Speaker 5: if the Lord chooses that our legacy won't come through biology,

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Speaker 5: but through adoption or spiritual sons and daughters, then still

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Speaker 5: may your womb be blessed not only as a vessel

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Speaker 5: of life, but as a vessel of love. For motherhood

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Speaker 5: is not only in the bearing of children, but in

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Speaker 5: the nurturing of souls. So I honor your body as

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Speaker 5: holy ground, and I honor your womb as a covenant promise.

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Speaker 5: Together we will trust the Lord to bless it accordingly

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Speaker 5: to his will. For from you will flow more than children.

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Speaker 5: From you will flow nations, visions, and destiny through your

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Speaker 5: future Hovey. I hope you enjoyed this episode of the

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Speaker 5: Dear Future Wifey podcast. Remember be lit, live intentionally and transparently,

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Speaker 5: and don't stop loving. Make sure to subscribe to our

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