1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Well, what is leverage. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 2: Their leverage is to hurt the American people. Right, They're 3 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: willing to hurt air travelers, whether they're going to a funeral, 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: they're going to see family members. Pretty soon, we're going 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: to have kids coming home from college for Thanksgiving break. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: They're willing to endanger poor people who can't get food stamps. 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: They're willing to risk subsidies in regard to health insurance. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: They don't care who they hurt. They care about power. 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: By the way, we had an election a little less 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: than a year ago and Donald Trump crushed it. He 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: won the popular vote, he won the seven swing states. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Democrats lost, And so if you want to pass legislation, 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: you can introduce it, you can debate it, but government 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: shutdowns trying to garner a leverage. 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Is not the way that you do it. 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Debate it, vote on it, and then come back and 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: try to win elections. 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: But they lost. 19 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump won, and to now say that you are 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: going to hurt the American people, so Donald Trump has 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: to talk to you. 22 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: That's not the way you do business. It is the 23 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: way they do business. And I do remind people Sean 24 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Duffy that's the transportation Searry I do remind people that 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Barack Obama said I won, Okay, you won, so now 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Trump won. That's the way it is. And this is 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: why when it comes to the shutdown, I don't think 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: Republicans can relent. They should not relent. They are not 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: the ones who have to relent. But air traffic controllers 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: are not getting paid, and your flight is gonna get delayed. 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with You 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: find everything at tonycats dot com, live streaming YouTube dot com, 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: slash Tony Kats. So just look for me and then subscribe. 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Do that immediately and join the live stream. Air traffic 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: controllers not getting paid. Flight delays are happening. This is 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: going to continue. What no one has been able to 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: answer is, let's say Wednesday comes, two days from as 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: I speak to you right now, Wednesday comes and boom, 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Democrats declare victory. Don't ask why, right, what are they 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? They say, well, Trump beat us on this one. 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: We care more about American families than Donald Trump do, 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: and we'll try and trust him this time while we 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: pressure him to giving more Obamacare subsidies, which Trump is 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: going to do anyway. And then Democrats take credit for 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a thing. I'll call my shot on that. 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: And then they vote finally to open the government. So 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: let's say that's Wednesday. How soon before people get paid? 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's doesn't just kick right in, right, doesn't. 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. So we'll be another three, 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: four days, five days, six days before they get paid 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the snap benefits does it? How does that work? How 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: does that How quickly does that kick in? I'm just 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: curious to what that response time is because all of 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: this gearing up to Thanksgiving travel is bad stuff. My 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: mother's gonna get on a plane. Those who who may 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: remember her Diane. So Diane used to be a quasi 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: regular guest on the show, right, and then my mother 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: got sick and I was like, yeah, that was not 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen. My mother is much better now. But there's 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: just in it. Nothing ain't easy. Wait, No, ain't nothing easy. 61 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. My mother's good and 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: she's happy and life is good and all that jazz. 63 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: And so she wants to come up for Thanksgiving. I'm like, 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: come up for Thanksgiving? What are the odds that that 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: flight is gonna work out? Okay, my mother, your mother, 66 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: your grandmother, you're this, you're that, your uncle, your cousin, 67 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: your brother. What what flights do we think are gonna 68 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: work out? Okay, So, when the shutdown affects the government worker, 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: it's a thing. When the government shutdown affects people being 70 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: able to feed their kids, it's a real thing. When 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: the government shutdown affects you, it's a problem. That's I mean, 72 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I think I've gone through the proper stages of this, 73 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I do not know what the 74 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: lack of funding has meant. On Friday, eighty percent, just 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: about I should say eighty percent of air traffic controllers 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: were absent from the New York area facilities, which means 77 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: all of those connect in those hubs not working. You 78 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: had Austin bergshrim International Airport under a ground stop for 79 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: flights coming from Dallas Fort Worth due to staffing shortages. 80 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Those delays were over an hour. And if you have 81 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: any understanding of travel, like if you've ever been on 82 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: a plane before, one delay begets another delay, begets another delay, 83 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and down the line and it gets worse as the 84 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: day continues. Newark Airport being limited to as few as 85 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: twenty planes per hour. This was as of Sunday, the 86 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: average delay for arriving flights over three and a half hours. 87 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: I am just curious as to how soon these things 88 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: will kick back in and what happened. Don't we have 89 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to redo this for November twenty first? Isn't there another 90 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: government shutdown scheduled for November twenty first, which is to say, 91 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: another continuing resolution? That was the date I thought we 92 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: were looking at. By the way being reported from Federal 93 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: News Network, this coming out before the weekend. Agency is 94 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: telling more than seven hundred thousand federal employees that their 95 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: time away will be extended another thirty days. Commerce, Justice, Homeland, NASA, GSA, 96 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: which is the General Services Administration. They've sent out emails 97 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: saying that you are on furlough until November twenty ninth, 98 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: the day after Thanksgiving. Oh okay, I don't have the 99 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: heart to tell my mother that there's no way that 100 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: the plane's gonna work. No way the plane might work, 101 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: there's just gonna be no one to actually direct it. 102 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: Oh is she gonna be angry? 103 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 104 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: This is very personal. That is not going to be 105 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a fun conversation at all. There's a Part two conversation. 106 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: This is about how people feel about the economy. News 107 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: Nation had this story, and the story was about how 108 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Trump's approval rating is down. Why is it down because 109 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: people feel they're worse off financially now than they were 110 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. This was a poll from News 111 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Nation and Decision Desk Headquarters. Eleven hundred and fifty nine 112 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: people polled. Let's walk through it if a little bit. 113 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Thirty nine percent of the people eleven hundred and fifty 114 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: nine people were polled. Thirty nine percent said they felt 115 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: less economically secure a year over year. Just twenty six 116 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: percent said they felt better off. Thirty four percent said 117 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: neither better nor worse off. Now, I'm looking at the 118 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: full poll results here. Of who it is that they surveyed, 119 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: it was Americans. I don't know if they asked about 120 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: political affiliation. The margin of error is two point nine percent, 121 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: So if you know me from elections general elections, I 122 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: really dismissed polls that don't that have a higher than 123 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: three percent margin of error. MOE. I dismissed polls they 124 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have at least a thousand people in the poll. 125 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I move those two things to the side and I 126 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: don't you know. The conversation registered voters are likely voters 127 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: always comes into play. So if you take a look 128 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: at the strongly approved and strongly disapprove of President Trump, 129 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: you find that that number is basically fifty to forty 130 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: nine approved to disapprove, it's fifty to fifty. Okay, do 131 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: you approve of the way that Trump administration is handling 132 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: immigration policy? Well, this has forty seven percent approved, fifty 133 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: two percent disapprove, fifty two percent disapprove. No, they're not 134 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about immigration policy. They just don't like the fact 135 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: that immigration policy involves returning people to their country of origin. 136 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: They claim they want a safer border, but they don't 137 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: actually want to do the work that gets you a 138 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: safer border. There is a really interesting parallel to the 139 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: story in the conversation of redistricting. But on the economics. 140 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: When you take a look at this, thirty nine percent 141 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: feel less economically secure, but twenty six percent and thirty 142 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: four percent, twenty or six percent feel better off, thirty 143 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: four percent, no difference, So you still have sixty percent 144 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: saying that all is well. I believe that to be 145 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: the case. I also believe that if you don't recognize 146 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: the taris have had an effect, and the economy isn't dreamy. 147 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: That's silly. The economy isn't dreamy. It's okay to say. 148 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I would still argue that people feel better off with 149 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Trump in the White House because it creates more opportunity. 150 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Then it's certainly anything with Biden and that full on malaise. 151 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Same thing is true regarding Kamala Harris. But I'm not 152 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: surprised particularly by this. I don't think Americans are just 153 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: dancing all the way to the bank. What's interesting is 154 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: that the president's approval ratings forty one percent, Republicans approval 155 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: rating with likely voters is forty seven percent. How weird 156 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: because this is exactly the opposite of what took place 157 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: in the election in twenty twenty four where Trump and 158 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: you heard Sean Duffy talk about it. Trump won all 159 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: these swing states, that's correct, but the Senate candidates didn't Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, 160 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: all swing states. The Republican candidate for Senate lost in 161 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: all those states because the Trump brand was bigger than 162 00:11:53,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: the Republican brand. Now we're seeing a reverse. Interesting. Interesting. 163 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I think the president should be aware that people economically 164 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: are still not feeling everything is great. Gas prices are down, 165 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: no doubt. Egg prices are down, no doubt. Other prices 166 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: are still too dang high. And there is still what 167 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: it is we're spending because of tariffs. It's hard to 168 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: get President Trump to get a conversation going about, Hey, 169 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: I know there's concern. Here's what we're doing when the 170 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: tariff is the thing he loves the most, and he 171 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: thinks the tariff is responsible for all the good things 172 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: and all the good investment. If it was a tactic, 173 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: i'd agree with that. But does this poll Is this 174 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: an indicator of well, democrats are something to capitalize on. 175 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: They could, but they're Democrats. They're going to overplay their 176 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: hand and they're going to lose the position because they 177 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: can't just be normal. They want to go down this road. 178 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: They are desperate to go down this road of Trump 179 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: promised and leaving nothing is better. But it's not true 180 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: that nothing is better. Many things are better. But you'll 181 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: see Democrats gloam on to this, and you will see 182 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: them going in directions so nutty that you won't believe it, 183 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: because that's their history. I'm Tony Katz, And this is 184 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today