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Speaker 2: So let's oh boy, my name is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 2: A little feud bruin here, Governor Braun versus Senate pro

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Speaker 1: Before we get rolling. Let me just point out some

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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there, long before the president

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Speaker 1: senatepproach him. Rod Bray says, you know what, We're not

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Speaker 1: not gonna do it. We don't have the votes, We're

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Speaker 2: We're not going to redistrict. We're not even going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it correctly. We're going to discuss it. Screw it.

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Speaker 1: So then Governor Mike Brown, who had called for the

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I understand a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Made that perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I think if you're going to get

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Speaker 1: But that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Can I believe? Can I just dive you right here?

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Speaker 1: It's weak Republicans that cause our country such problems, and

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen if Democrats take the House. Here

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Speaker 2: Well what could have been done in Indiana differently a

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Speaker 1: Right, And this is where Rob and I differ because

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Speaker 1: Fight fire with fire, hit him with their own bricks.

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Speaker 1: I can vote for Christopher Hammer to get the seat

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Speaker 2: It's worth a shot at the very least. That is

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Speaker 2: such a great description. The legacy pick hasn't done that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a freeloader man. Wow. And then fast

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Speaker 1: forward to today. Uh, this is from social media from

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Speaker 1: Governor Mike bron quote. I just had a great call

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Speaker 1: I still expect the Senate to begin work on January fifth. Aka, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The Hammer and Nichel.

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Speaker 2: Show, November Hammer November Men's Health Month, and we got

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Speaker 2: the Hammer in Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, he is not. I'm going to reveal some

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Speaker 2: private medical information here. He's a woman, he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he transitioned.

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Speaker 1: Nigel Show pit a couple of decades since he's been

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Speaker 5: You should start mentioning other people's names.

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Speaker 2: Should I retweet have you seen the Epstein Survivors PSA

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Speaker 1: the seventies. So the coupone lady and I we go

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Speaker 1: out and get a little workout in. We're walking the track,

434
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Speaker 1: running the track, feeling pretty good.

435
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Speaker 2: You know.

436
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: We had some meetings, all right, fine, A lot of

437
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: stuff on the honey due list got done on Saturday. Cool,

438
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: silly me thought we'd be done for the weekend. Oh no, no, no, no,

439
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: colts had a bye on Sunday. Yeah, Sunday's a sabbath.

440
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Speaker 2: Still let me.

441
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: I knew I was in for a day when I

442
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Speaker 1: got up in the morning and I heard the phrase,

443
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Speaker 1: since the colts have a bye today. Oh no. And

444
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: then here comes a long list of bull crap that

445
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: Crystal has lined up.

446
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Like it was a.

447
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: Little cold, but we still did like a million things.

448
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: Scrubbing the toilet's, scrubbing the kitchen. And then just when

449
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: you think you're done, it's time to stage the Christmas decorations.

450
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Speaker 1: Not put them up, No, no, no, not put them up.

451
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, stage them so we can put them

452
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Speaker 1: up later.

453
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: So you're what does that mean? Stacking boxes in the

454
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Speaker 2: corner full of Christmas decorations.

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Speaker 1: Right going down to the basement where everything's organized, bringing

456
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Speaker 1: up trees, bringing up boxes, putting them in the appropriate rooms.

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00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Because at another time, down the road. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: More to do it all over again.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

461
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Speaker 1: I told Crystal, it's like when we're not on vacations together,

462
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Speaker 1: like in Florida, It's like I'm a Shawshank.

463
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Speaker 2: Weekends with her are like being a Shawshank's That's quite

464
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Speaker 2: a comparison.

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Speaker 1: Oh and.

466
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Speaker 2: He didn't survive the Sisters. The Sisters won this round.

467
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Speaker 1: Oh good god. I was yelling and cussing at the

468
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Speaker 1: NFL for having bye weeks at one point yesterday, I

469
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: was yelling at the NFL for having bye weeks. That's

470
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Speaker 1: how my weekend. Man, it's the Hammer and Nigel Show,

471
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: And I believe we've got some Michigan related legal.

472
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Stuff, legal stuff.

473
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: Crime punishment, judges, legal stuff, legal stuff.

474
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Speaker 2: I was in Michigan over the weekend. I was nowhere

475
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Speaker 2: near this place we were about to talk about. But

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Speaker 2: I will ask you this just real quick. You asked

477
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Speaker 2: me the most random question. Hey, were you anywhere near

478
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Speaker 2: cold Water, Michigan over the weekend. That's where a ponder Rose.

479
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Speaker 1: Is at.

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00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: Hambridd literally asked me with a straight face. He goes, Hey,

481
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Speaker 2: I know you were in Michigan over the weekend. Where

482
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Speaker 2: you near cold Water, and I go, I don't know

483
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Speaker 2: where that's at. He goes, there's a ponder Rose.

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Speaker 1: I can't st there's a ponder Rosa in cold Water, Michigan.

485
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Speaker 1: How do you know that?

486
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Speaker 2: Because aught about making a road trip there. Okay, is

487
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: that what you want from me? Because it's true, Hi,

488
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Speaker 2: we only got a couple of minutes. What happened in rome.

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Speaker 1: So in Romeo, Michigan, which I believe was on the

490
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Speaker 1: complete opposite side of the state.

491
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Speaker 2: It is from where I was at New Buffalo. It

492
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: is the police rated a massage parlor. Oh Now, what's

493
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: crazy is that the massage parlor in question had a

494
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Speaker 2: big sign up on the window that clearly said warning

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Speaker 2: no sexual.

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Speaker 1: That's it, warning no sexual. Sexual what No, that's it.

497
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Speaker 2: That's it.

498
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: But the police did find sexual going on inside the

499
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: UMI spa. They have made multiple arrests because of prostitution

500
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: taking place inside. What's the problem.

501
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Why in the world would the police have any suspicion

502
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Speaker 2: whatsoever when they passed by a massage parlor with a

503
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Speaker 2: giant sign that says warning no sexual.

504
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: And then you go inside you slide him at twenty sexual. Okay,

505
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: come on back.

506
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Speaker 2: I think sexy time would have been a better term.

507
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Or no sexual intercourse or you finished the sentence warning

508
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Speaker 1: no sexual Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nigel, so uh, I mean it just wasn't on the air.

510
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: Was it off the cuff?

511
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: Question?

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Speaker 2: So you were in Michigan over were you near cold Water?

513
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: And I go, Man, I don't know where cold water is?

514
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: I know, he goes, yeah, there's a there's a ponderosa

515
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: in cold Water. Just can't step. Is it still there? Yes,

516
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Speaker 2: it's still How do you know I've restarted where there's

517
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Speaker 2: Ponderosa's okay, there's one in southern Indiana that's still open.

518
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: It also says no sexy time at the pondosa in

519
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: cold Water, right.

520
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Speaker 1: Above the wings station warning no sexual It's the Hammer

521
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: and Nigel show Hammer and Nigel. These characters are weirdos.

522
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: I name, it's Nigel Jason Hammer right over there. Still

523
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: trying to process what happened in Whitestown a couple of

524
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago. A cleaning crew trying to get into a house.

525
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: It was the wrong house, and the homeowner was as

526
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: far as I know, you know, I'm speculating here, but

527
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: he was scared and I thought he was getting broken

528
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: into fired a bullet through the front door and killed

529
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Speaker 2: a member of this cleaning crew who had the wrong house.

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Speaker 1: Right. It was early in the morning, it was dark,

531
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: and it sounds like it's just a horrible accident here,

532
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: and it sounds like, yeah. The prosecutor in Boone County,

533
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Kent Eastwood, made an announcement earlier today that he has

534
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: filed one level two felony charge, a voluntary manslaughter against

535
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Kurt Anderson and the shooting death of Maria Florinda rios Per.

536
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Speaker 1: She was part of the cleaning crew that was trying

537
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Speaker 1: to get in the door. This took place in the

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00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: early morning hours on November fifth. Now, again, not a

539
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: big secret because he's talked about it. Guy Relford, Attorney

540
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: at law, host of The Gun Guy Show. He is

541
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Speaker 1: part of the legal team for this individual. He was

542
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: listening and taking in all of the information when this

543
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: announcement was made earlier. He will join us coming up

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Speaker 1: in about twenty five minutes from right now, right around

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Speaker 1: four thirty five. So Guy Relford, again, he can't comment

546
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Speaker 1: on everything because this is an active situation, but he

547
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: can comment on the charges and we'll try we'll ask

548
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: any questions that you may have, because this is a

549
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: case Nige that's getting national attention.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to work through this in my head, like

551
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Speaker 2: if it was early in the morning and I thought

552
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Speaker 2: somebody was trying to break in my house, but it

553
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: ended up being somebody that had the wrong address. Do

554
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 2: I pull out a gun and shoot? I don't know,

555
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Like I don't ever. I have no clue the circumstances

556
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: or whatever is surrounding this.

557
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: This incident man. Because the folks in the YouTube chat,

558
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: they got their opinions both sides of the aisle here, right,

559
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: Like the folks that are I'm going to assume and

560
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I could be wrong anti gun, tend to think this

561
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: is some unhinged person. Then you weren't being careful and

562
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: you weren't being safe. And then there's another side that

563
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: say the Castle Doctrine, as it's set in the state

564
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: of Indiana, that's it gives this individual the right to

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Speaker 1: do what he did. So it comes down to morality

566
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: versat the law, and that's for I guess judge in

567
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: the court system to figure out now. But we'll talk

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: to Guy Relford about that coming up here at four

569
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: thirty five. But the Boone County prosecutor has filed one

570
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: level two felony charge, a voluntary manslaughter against homeowner Kurt

571
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Anderson in the shooting death of that cleaning woman. Indiana

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Speaker 1: State Senator Tara Hate. Resident Greg Good said he was

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Speaker 1: the victim of a swatting incident on Sunday Nights. Now.

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Speaker 1: This came after Donald Trump had put out a scathing

575
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Speaker 1: truth social post that was shared all over social media,

576
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Speaker 1: naming Senator Good, along with State pro Tim rod Bray,

577
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: as the reasons why the redistrict plan the changing of

578
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: the congressional maps is not moving forward. So look, I

579
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: made it clear earlier, went on a pretty big rant.

580
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Nobody dislikes Senator Rod Ray, probably more than I do,

581
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. This, the whole redistrict thing,

582
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: is just the cherry on top of the Sunday here.

583
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I didn't like him before for a number of reasons.

584
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Senator Good one of the butt sniffers that usually goes

585
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: along with him. But man, come on, don't be threatening

586
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: the guy's house, don't be swatting, don't be ordering pizzas

587
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: to the houses. Assuming that went on, and this isn't

588
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: some sort of bit to make maga supporters look like lunatics.

589
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: Assuming that actually went on, Don't be a jag off.

590
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: Swatting is when you call the police and say, hey,

591
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: I heard about this thing going on with this other residence.

592
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: You better go check it out, right, And it just

593
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: puts everybody in danger and it wastes the time of

594
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: law enforcement too, right, And that's important.

595
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: But you see this a lot, and again that's something

596
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: the left does, something the political left does when they

597
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: don't like a Supreme Court justice nominee or something like that.

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00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: If that indeed happened, knock off the crap. Don't be

599
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: a jag off, which brings us to great moments in

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Speaker 1: jag off history. Did you guys hear this from Friday night?

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Speaker 1: This was a high school football game in Pittsburgh, one

602
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: of their playoff games. The Pittsburgh High School Football's big deal, right,

603
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: it's up there with like Texas and Florida, No kidding,

604
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: big deal. Listen to the way the referee talks to

605
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Speaker 1: the team captains of each team before the coin toss. Here, Hey,

606
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: Simon's gonna win, somebody's gonna lose.

607
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: Son's still gonna come up with the borrow. You have

608
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: any issues your problems for to come see you.

609
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 8: You see you up.

610
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: Let's make sure that he gets through this game without

611
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: being a jag off.

612
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Right, you got questions, you got issues, Come see us.

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Speaker 1: Let's make sure we get through this game without anybody

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00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: being a jag off. All right, can I hear it

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Speaker 1: one more time?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: Allison? I love this referee.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Simon's gonna win, somebody's gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still going to come up to the borrow here.

620
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: Any issues proms for come see you, issue us. Let's

621
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: make sure he gets through this game without being a

622
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: great moments and jag off history. Love that there's plenty

623
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Speaker 2: of those moments on this program.

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to rename the whole show the actually Nidge.

625
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: The's been a lot in the news cycle. But if

626
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Speaker 1: you need a reason to drink tonight. Okay, Happy eighty

627
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Speaker 1: first birthday to actor Danny DeVito.

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Speaker 2: No wow, eighty one eighty one.

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Speaker 1: So when I say Danny DeVito, what's the first thing

630
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: you think of, like the first role or.

631
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: Whatm the subway place? The commercials with him and Eli

632
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: Manning Fireside Jersey Mike Jersey. Mike's right, those are great commercials.

633
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: So his whole career, all the hit TV shows. I

634
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: know where you're going with this.

635
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: You came down to the jersey Mike's commercials. Okay, Taxi,

636
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: It's always Philadelphia. He was a hanguin for the Love

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: of God in a Batman movie Twins with Arnold schwins In.

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00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: Uh the was he in the one where Schwartzenegger was pregnant?

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: Was he in that one too? I don't know.

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00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: I can't remember. But he was in Get Shorty. Yeah,

642
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: Get Shorty was tremendous Romancing the Stone in that he

643
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: had a great side. He was a character actor and

644
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies ever l A Confidential Sid Hudgins.

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00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good movie. Good movie. Here's a little

646
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: montage of Danny DeVito. Tell me if you recognize any

647
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: of these roles.

648
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: Night right over here, somebody at me.

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00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: The cameo was Mini.

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Speaker 9: We gotta definitely write a song about how we do

651
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Speaker 9: not diddle kids.

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Speaker 1: I'm not diddle kids. It's no good diddling kids. There

653
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Speaker 1: is no quicker way for people to think that you

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Speaker 1: were than by writing a song about it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta write songs say I wouldn't do it with

656
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Speaker 2: anybody younger.

657
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Speaker 7: Than my daughter.

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Speaker 9: No little kids gotta be bigs, hold them away, fling

659
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Speaker 9: my daughter and something like that.

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Speaker 1: This dog runs out in front of my cat.

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Speaker 9: Either I hit the dog or swerve and hit the

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Speaker 9: cord bob, but it was parked there. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 9: you mean you had a choice of running over some

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Speaker 9: muddy and ram into a Cordoba price with Cordova with

665
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Speaker 9: Caribbean leather, and you made a conscious choice hit wearing

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Speaker 9: your values rega one of the.

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Speaker 1: Great degenerates of all time, Louis de Palma and taxixy okay,

668
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Speaker 1: upset that judge Judge Hurst decided to hit a car

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Speaker 1: and not a dog.

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Speaker 2: Throw Mama from the train.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a big one.

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Speaker 1: He's funny and everything he's in man like. I didn't

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Speaker 1: really get into the Penguin role because he wasn't funny.

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Speaker 2: I never got into Sunny in Philadelphia probably never. I've

676
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Speaker 2: seen one episode.

677
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Speaker 4: I get I've seen all seasons.

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Speaker 1: If you like the Larry David style of humor, sure,

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Speaker 1: I think you would enjoy that.

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Speaker 2: I think you eighty one Wow.

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Speaker 1: Presents.

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Speaker 2: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 1: Is this anything Brodie Bye.

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Speaker 2: Indiana Unclaimed presented by the Attorney General's Office here in

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Speaker 1: Is this anything? A Texas man is accused of vandalizing

689
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: a Veteran's Day flag display at a church. Police say

690
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Timothy Myer's pool tore the flags down at the display

691
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Speaker 1: and then left his id at the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 1: Good Good. Here are some witnesses and clean up volunteers

693
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Speaker 1: talking about what happened.

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Speaker 5: There's a guy actively tearing down flag duringough accidentally ran

695
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Speaker 5: over it.

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Speaker 10: Didn't know what it was at first, looked in my

697
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 10: rear view of mirror, and sure enough I see a

698
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Speaker 10: flag I.

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Speaker 3: Was tearing up as I was walking through.

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Speaker 1: By his response saying, y'all don't need this flag. They're gone. Now.

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Speaker 1: This was definitely politically motivated.

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Speaker 3: I was still looking through. It was like, where's where

703
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Speaker 3: are my grandparents' flags at? I don't know what your

704
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: intention was to tear the flags down or to cause destruction,

705
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Speaker 3: but it's not going to stop best from honoring the

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Speaker 3: people that we love and believe in and thank for sacrificing.

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Speaker 2: I was tearing up as I was walking through.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear that guy?

709
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Speaker 2: He had grandparents that had flags that were displayed at

710
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Speaker 2: this memorial and some lunatic was destroying it. And it

711
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: sounded like I thought I heard somebody say, oh, these

712
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: people are gone, you don't need to We don't need

713
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: this anymore. No, we needed We need it every day.

714
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: We need to remember these people every day.

715
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Speaker 1: And that's not your decision to make. Of course, it's

716
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Speaker 1: not get your hands off of anything related to a

717
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: grave side of mine, or I'm going to beat the

718
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Speaker 1: living piss out of you. Go to jail.

719
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Speaker 2: And yes, you deserve to get the living piss beat

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Speaker 2: out of you, as Hammer Hammon just said, for sure,

721
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Speaker 2: no questions asked.

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Speaker 1: Like most communities in America, I don't believe there'd be

723
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Speaker 1: a judge or a prosecutor that would lock up somebody

724
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Speaker 1: that would beat up that guy. But here in Indiana,

725
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Marion County, I'm willing to accept the jail time.

726
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Speaker 1: Like if I go to my grandfather's grave who fought

727
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: in World War two and I find this guy taking

728
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Speaker 1: stuff off of it, I'm willing to accept the fact

729
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: that Ryan meheres or some local judge is gonna make

730
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Speaker 1: me the bad guy when I'm trying to rip his

731
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Speaker 1: ear off.

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Speaker 11: Go.

733
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Speaker 2: You know, Crystal's got that bail money.

734
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Speaker 1: We do have a fund. It's not a it's not

735
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: a joke. That's an actual thing. Is this anything? There

736
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: was a fist fight over a Thanksgiving turkey that turned

737
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Speaker 1: into a shootout over a Thanksgiving turkey at a grocery store.

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Speaker 2: Of course it did.

739
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Speaker 1: Where was this, North Carolina. One guy was arguing with

740
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Speaker 1: a cashier over the price, then another guy stepped in

741
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: got into a fistfight with them. They both had their

742
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: guns on them. One guy got shot in the arm

743
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Speaker 1: and they both got arrested. Nobody else was hurt. God,

744
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: here's some of the altercation, and one of the cashiers,

745
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: talking about the chaotic situation.

746
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Speaker 11: Got a gun bustin came from rest to six, ran

747
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Speaker 11: over to the man that was all in my face,

748
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 11: was like this is a woman talked to me like that.

749
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Speaker 11: The next thing you know, they right confrontation go on.

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Speaker 1: They fighting.

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Speaker 11: The man was steady tussling, trying to get his gun

752
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 11: out his pouch to shoot the other man, and the

753
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 11: man was like, oh, you want to school out a gun.

754
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Speaker 11: They meant right now where the officers at and start shooting.

755
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Speaker 2: Forget the guns for a second. The guy that ran

756
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Speaker 2: over to help the clerk is a hero. If I

757
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: understood things correctly. This guy, somebody, this lunatic, was yelling

758
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: at the person checking out the turkey. It was too much,

759
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: arguing about the price and using voul language, vulgarities. Another

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: man stepped in and said, hey, don't talk to her

761
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: like that, and then things obviously escalated from there. He's

762
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Speaker 2: a hero. They both had guns. Thank god nobody got hurt. Well,

763
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Speaker 2: I think somebody got shot. I hopefully was the bad guy.

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Speaker 2: They shot in the arm. Shot in the arm. This

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Speaker 2: is something for sure. Man, keep the gun holstered if

766
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Speaker 2: you will. But man that if the guy the lunatic

767
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: yelling at this poor woman that is just working at

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Speaker 2: a grocery store. It's not the most glamorous job in

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Speaker 2: the world. Hammer and somebody runs over to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: don't talk to her like.

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Speaker 1: That, then it's on. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree that the guns should be used, obviously, but.

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Speaker 1: This is this is ugly. You don't have to win

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Speaker 1: me over. I grew up in a community where we

775
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Speaker 1: fight in the walmart, so I'm with you on this one.

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Speaker 2: There were no guns in the shampoo aisle. It didn't

777
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: need gun.

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Speaker 1: It had bottles of Suave and that's all they needed.

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00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Am I a horrible person? Because when I heard this

780
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Speaker 1: story about somebody getting shot in the arm in a

781
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Turkey dispute, the first thing that went through my mind

782
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: was a possible Hammer and Nigel record song, a little

783
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: bon Jovi parody shot.

784
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Speaker 2: Through the arm?

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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh tu blame you give turkeys a bad name. Guitar

786
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Speaker 1: kicks in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the answers, yes, you're a harbor person.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 2: The only way to bag a classy lady is to

790
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Speaker 2: give her two tickets to the gun show.

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Speaker 1: This Monday, Gun Day with the gun Just.

792
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Speaker 12: Watch up with the guns.

793
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: They'll get guy, stop calling your arms.

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Speaker 9: Gun Hone of is an idel.

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Speaker 2: Jason Hammer is here also joining his live and studio

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Speaker 2: Guy Show. Saturday's here on ninety three WIBC Guy, how

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 2: You are a licensed firearms instructor. You are also a

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Speaker 2: two A attorney resenting the gentleman that was charged with

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00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: the shooting in White's Town. Can we just reset everything

808
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: and start from the beginning and we'll find out what

809
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: the charges are here in just a second. But can

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Speaker 2: we just start from the beginning here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, this is a case that unfolded on the

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Speaker 7: fifth of November, and the reports are that a cleaning

813
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: crew a man and woman, husband and wife went to

814
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Speaker 7: the wrong house the very early mornings, very early morning,

815
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Speaker 7: about six thirty or so that morning, went and was

816
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Speaker 7: trying to get into a house. It was a wrong house,

817
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 7: and the husband and wife in the house were awakened.

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Speaker 7: The husband, believing someone was trying to break into the house,

819
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Speaker 7: fired a shot and ended up killing the wife of

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Speaker 7: the couple. Today, Kent Eastwood, who's the prosecutor in Boone County,

821
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Speaker 7: had a press conference to announce that criminal charges, specifically

822
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Speaker 7: one count of voluntary manslaughter, had been filed against my

823
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 7: client Kurt Anderson there of Whitestown, and mister Eastwood had

824
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Speaker 7: a press conference and he read a written statement and

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Speaker 7: then he took questions from the media who were present,

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Speaker 7: and I thought, if you guys are okay with this,

827
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Speaker 7: I would really use today on your show this segment.

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Speaker 7: We usually have to read my written statement that I

829
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Speaker 7: put out and then take some questions from you guys,

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Speaker 7: just like mister Eastwood did. So this is sort of

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Speaker 7: my version of what the Boone County prosecutor did today

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Speaker 7: in his press conference.

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Speaker 1: Seems fair. He did that we will allow you to

834
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Speaker 1: do this. And again, this is in response to the

835
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Speaker 1: Boone County prosecutor filing one level two felony charge, a

836
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Speaker 1: voluntary manslaughter against your client, Kurt Anderson in that early

837
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Speaker 1: morning shooting death of the woman who was with the

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Speaker 1: cleaning crew.

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Speaker 7: Right exactly, and as mister Eastwood said in his press

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Speaker 7: conference today press conference today, attorneys are under ethical restrictions

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00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 7: on what we can say about a pending case, and

842
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 7: so we really don't want to get into the specific facts.

843
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 7: It doesn't do anyone any good to debate the facts

844
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 7: in the media. Those things need to come out in

845
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 7: the courtroom, and I think he tried to tow that

846
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 7: line his press conference, and obviously I will do the same.

847
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 7: But my statement that I post this is on my

848
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 7: Twitter if people want to find it.

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Speaker 1: We've reachweeted it at hammer in Nigel.

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Speaker 7: Okay, and it's also at Guy Relford on my Twitter.

851
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 7: But the death of Maria Florinda Rios Perez is a

852
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 7: terrible tragedy that is heartbreaking for everyone involved. And while

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00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 7: we are disappointed that the Boone County Prosecutor's office has

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Speaker 7: elected to file criminal charges against mister Kurt Anderson, I

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00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 7: look forward to proving in court that his actions were

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00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 7: fully justified by the Castle doctrine provision of Indiana's self

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Speaker 7: defense law. That law allows a person to use reasonable force,

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Speaker 7: including deadly force, if he reasonably believes that such force

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Speaker 7: is necessary to prove an unlawful entry into his home.

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Speaker 7: Contrary to the contention of the prosecutor, and without discussing

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Speaker 7: the specific facts of the case, we believe mister Anderson

862
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 7: had every reason to believe his actions were absolutely necessary

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Speaker 7: and fully justified. At the time. We also believe that

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00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 7: mister Anderson's actions are being unfairly judged based on facts

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Speaker 7: that were unknowable to him as vents events unfolded that

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Speaker 7: early morning. The law does not allow a conviction based

867
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 7: on hindsight. Instead, mister Anderson's actions must be evaluated based

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Speaker 7: on the circumstances as he perceived them. For all these reasons,

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Speaker 7: and the castle doctrine clearly applies, and I look forward

870
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Speaker 7: to defending mister Anderson in court.

871
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Speaker 1: Okay, So now Nige and I will ask you as

872
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: many questions as we can without getting into the specifics

873
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: guide because I know you can't touch on that exactly.

874
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: My question is about the castle doctrine itself. Is someone

875
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: who is on your porch trying to get into the

876
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: door part of your castle. Is castle doctrine covering that situation?

877
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 7: Well, the castle doctrine includes the curtilage of your home. Now,

878
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 7: curtilage is a very underdeveloped terms term in terms of

879
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: the law. There aren't really any cases that a self

880
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 7: defense context that tell us what that means. But that's

881
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: an area outside your home where you have an expectation

882
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 7: of privacy. So there's curtilage, which is also protected under

883
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 7: the castle doctrine. But here the word prevent is what's

884
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 7: so important in the castle doctrine because the castle doctrine

885
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 7: says you can use reasonable force, including deadly forced, to

886
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 7: prevent an unlawful entry. So someone doesn't have to be

887
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 7: in your home. They can be outside your home but

888
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 7: trying to get in. And if you reasonably believe that

889
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 7: force is then necessary to prevent them from getting in,

890
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 7: then clearly the castle doctrine applies. And that's what I

891
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 7: wanted to emphasize in my written statement today is that

892
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 7: had they gotten through the door, they would have then

893
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 7: been in the dwelling. So the question is what's reasonable

894
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 7: to pro vent them from entering the home based on

895
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Speaker 7: what he knew, because again he didn't know this was

896
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 7: a cleaning crew who was just at the wrong house.

897
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 7: He just knew someone was trying to open his front door.

898
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 7: And again I don't want to delve more deeply into

899
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 7: the specifics than that, but that's where the case is

900
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Speaker 7: going to turn.

901
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: There have been reports that the sun was up enough

902
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Speaker 1: for him to be able to see outside. I've heard

903
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: this argument from a lot of people on social media.

904
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Speaker 1: Is that true in any way?

905
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 7: No, I mean the evidence again, it's going to be

906
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 7: easily documentable to see where the sunrise was on November fifth,

907
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. And I think all the scuttle bit

908
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 7: out there and the social media meteorologists wanting to say

909
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 7: it was bright light outside or absolutely completely wrong.

910
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: What kind of attention is this case getting?

911
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Right now?

912
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 7: It's getting a ton of attention. I mean I took

913
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Speaker 7: calls from A and the AP and a whole bunch

914
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 7: of the national media today and a whole bunch of

915
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 7: local media as well, So it's getting it's getting a

916
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 7: lot of attention.

917
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Have you had a chance to speak to your client

918
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Speaker 1: his family? I don't anticipate you to tell us exactly

919
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: what it was about, but how is everybody like handling

920
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: this situation?

921
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: Well, I'll just talk in general terms, and that is

922
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 7: that anytime someone you know, their their lives really literally

923
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 7: went from sleeping in your own bed, money in your

924
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 7: own business asleep when all of a sudden, you know,

925
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 7: these events started unfolding to now him sitting in the

926
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Speaker 7: Boom County jail, and that how happened, you know, in

927
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 7: a very quick period of time. And that's I'll just

928
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Speaker 7: leave it to anyone else out there to feel, you know,

929
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 7: to ask how they would feel if you know you

930
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 7: you go to bed, and you go to sleep in

931
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Speaker 7: your own bed, and the next thing you know, you're

932
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 7: accused of a very serious current.

933
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Speaker 2: Talk about talk about the opposition and where what you're

934
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: hearing in terms of people coming at you on social media,

935
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: We're getting I'm getting emails from people, a.

936
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Speaker 1: Lot of two way attorneys on the YouTube chat and

937
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Speaker 1: sending us emails today.

938
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Speaker 11: Guy.

939
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm getting a lot of hate as well,

940
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: and so a lot of it.

941
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: Again going back to a lot of attention to this case.

942
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a lot of attention to the case. And

943
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 7: listen after today and I'm just again answering a few

944
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 7: questions as mister Eastwood did today, But after today, I'm

945
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 7: not going to be making any more public statements about it.

946
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: You are a popular two way attorney. It feels like

947
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: anybody that's got a gun issue reaches out to you.

948
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: You turned down a lot of cases. Why did you

949
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: decide to take this one?

950
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 7: Well, that's hard to answer without really getting to the

951
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: facts of the case. But I will tell you that

952
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 7: what I said in my written statement about how I

953
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 7: think that mister Anderton is being unfairly judged based on

954
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 7: hindsight and and everyone now knowing what the facts were

955
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 7: which led to this horrible mistake of these folks going

956
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 7: to the wrong house, make it. That makes it be

957
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 7: very easy to condemn him. But I also think when

958
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 7: down the road a jury has asked to put themselves

959
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 7: into his shoes, because that's how self defense works is

960
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 7: the jury has to look at things from his perspective

961
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 7: only based on what he knew, what he could hear,

962
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 7: what he could see. Then I think it's clear that

963
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 7: what he did, although it was terrible and everyone is

964
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 7: heartbroken over this horrible mistake that led to the death

965
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Speaker 7: of a woman who didn't deserve obviously what happened to her,

966
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Speaker 7: but that's not the question when it comes to the

967
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 7: criminality of the act. And I think you have to

968
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: look at what he believed to be reasonable under the circumstance,

969
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 7: and that's where we'll get into the very specific facts

970
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 7: and I look forward to doing that in court.

971
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Speaker 1: And Guys, something I think you mentioned on Friday when

972
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: you filled in for Nledge, this is a situation where

973
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: as a defensive TURNI you're not ripping or blaming the

974
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: victim on the other side. That's important to you.

975
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean all known facts at this point are

976
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 7: these folks, through no fault to their own, were sent

977
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 7: to the wrong address. Now, what makes no sense to

978
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 7: me is it's a full mile away from where they

979
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 7: were supposed to go in a different neighborhood. Wasn't even

980
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 7: the same neighborhood, So.

981
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: They were a mile away in a different neighborhood from

982
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: where they were supposed to be.

983
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I drove it. So we'll have to figure

984
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 7: out how that happened. But no, I'll be kind of

985
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 7: glad after today. I don't want to make any more

986
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 7: public statement. I want to make sure I'm following all

987
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 7: the rules.

988
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: Last thing here before we let you go again, Guy

989
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: Relford joining us from Monday gun Day. A lot of

990
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: media attention here, a lot of people on the chatterboards

991
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: and social media. They've already got their minds made up.

992
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: Is that difficult for a defense attorney, Well.

993
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 7: It's hard. I mean, I'm a fighter, right, and I

994
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 7: debate for a living in that in the two area

995
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 7: for a long, long long time, so it's hard for

996
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 7: me to see a bunch of idiocy out on social

997
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 7: media and not want to jump into the fray. But

998
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 7: of course I'm not going to do that. What a

999
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 7: colossal waste of time and energy that would be. So

1000
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: I have to not look at a lot of it

1001
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 7: and what little I see, and some of us directed

1002
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 7: at me specifically, you know, I get tagged or whatever

1003
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 7: is I just try to ignore it as much as

1004
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 7: I can. But it's a little hard when you're sort

1005
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 7: of a fighter by nature and you just got to

1006
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 7: ignore the morons out there.

1007
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: So what's next in this whole story?

1008
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 7: Well, initial hearing on Friday where his bond will be

1009
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 7: set and we'll go about dealing with that, and then

1010
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 7: we'll start working through the process and ultimately get it

1011
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 7: ready for your trial.

1012
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: Hey, I know this isn't easy, you know, Nige and

1013
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: I are asking you questions. You've got to be very

1014
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: careful about answering. Yeah, So we appreciate you taking the

1015
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: time on a very busy day for you to come

1016
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: in here and address everything that's going on with a

1017
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: very high profile story. If somebody wants to reach out

1018
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: to you ask a question, hire you be trained in firearms?

1019
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: By you? Where can they go? Yeah?

1020
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 7: And I know you said this already. But this is

1021
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 7: not to answer any questions about this case because I'm

1022
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: done talking about the race right unless it's in court.

1023
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 7: But on other issues. Just at Guy Ralford on Twitter,

1024
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 7: give me a follow while you're on there. Just at

1025
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 7: Guy Ralford on Twitter.

1026
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: Guy, thank you so much. We appreciate youase. Guys, it's

1027
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: the Hammer and Nigel Show.

1028
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos? So my

1029
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: name is Nigel. Jason hamm are right over there.

1030
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Wow, what.

1031
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: The past couple of days we've had when talking about redistricting,

1032
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: when talking about Governor Braun calling a special session, when

1033
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 2: talking about Senate pro Tim Rod Bray saying, nah, we're

1034
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: not going to do that. We're not gonna and then

1035
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: you have Donald Trump on truth social social media, tweeting

1036
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: out at the governor and some other people within our legislature. Hammer,

1037
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: It's been quite the past. It started Friday.

1038
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: Actually, right Friday is when Rod Bray came out and said,

1039
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: it'd be a shame if something happened to your little

1040
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: special session. Oh, I know it ain't gonna happen. Screw you, guys,

1041
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: I am out of here. And he did. Dennis Miller

1042
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: and he wrote his name and he threw up a

1043
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: paper and a pen in the background. Well, that didn't

1044
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: go over real well with the President of the United States.

1045
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: Donald Trump goes on truth social and basically just calls

1046
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Rod Bray everything that he is a rhino and this

1047
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: and that. But he also rips Governor Mike Brawn a

1048
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: little bit.

1049
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: A little bit, a.

1050
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: Little bit, says you wouldn't be the governor without me.

1051
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you got to be a little bit better whipping

1052
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: up these votes. Here, kid, come on and fast forward

1053
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: to today. You've got this statement from the governor quote.

1054
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: I just had a great call with President Trump, and

1055
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: I told him I remain committed to standing with him

1056
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: on the critical issue of passing fair maps in Indiana.

1057
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: To ensure that MAGA Agenda agenda is successful in Congress,

1058
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: Indiana state legislators must show up for work and take

1059
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: a public vote for fair maps to counter the jerrymandering

1060
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: in California and Illinois. But the Indiana State Senate's hiding

1061
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: behind closed doors and refusing to even bring redistricting to

1062
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: a vote. Hoosiers deserve to know where their legislators stand

1063
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: and expect them to show up for work not to

1064
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: walk out and hide in the dark, to which Senate

1065
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: pro Tim rod Bray said, I'll see you guys on

1066
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: January fifth, Fan de fart and walked out of his office.

1067
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: At least in my mind, that's how that played out.

1068
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: Really, So what do you think I mean? As a

1069
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: constituent here here that resides in Marion County, how do

1070
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: you feel about the redrawing the maps.

1071
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: I was in favor of it because I could have

1072
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: got rid of andre Carson, But instead I'm stuck with

1073
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: andre Carson because a lot of people want to look moral,

1074
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: they want to look right.

1075
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: It's a power grab. Well, yeah, kind of it is.

1076
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: But that's a stupid argument because this is all political.

1077
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: It's a political process. Every election is a power grab.

1078
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: Every election. Like, if you want to tell me you

1079
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: want to change the congressional maps every year, don't.

1080
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Threaten me with a good time. How do I get

1081
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: rid of Andre Carson? Because as a resident of Indianapolis,

1082
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: this dude has done nothing for me.

1083
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: The bigger picture, everyone needs to look at here. I

1084
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: know you live in Marion County. I understand your argument,

1085
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: and I heard your segment. You should go back and

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Speaker 2: listen to that with you and Kendall and Casey Rod

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00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: Kendall and Casey earlier this morning. But the bigger picture

1088
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: everybody needs to look at is, you know, next year

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: the midterms come and go, and what if the Republicans

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: are down a seat or two in the House because

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Speaker 2: what happened here in Indiana didn't happen. What was what

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Governor Brown called for a special session didn't end up

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Speaker 2: happening and wasn't voted for.

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Speaker 1: But you can sleep good at night knowing you were

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01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: a helper. You were a mister helper. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: you wanted to be in the discussion.

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: Mister helper.

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Speaker 1: That's how so many of these people act that don't

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Speaker 1: live in areas like I live in like I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there are Conservatives that live in Frank Mrvan's district, people

1101
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: that live in Indianapolis where we get stuck with Andrea Carson.

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Speaker 1: You were ready for the changing of the congressional maps.

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01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: And I get what Rob says, well, you would just

1104
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Speaker 1: get some wishy, washy, squish Republican like Jefferson Shreef maybe

1105
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: better than Andre Carson maybe, But I'm willing to try.

1106
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: You got to try something. You've got to fight back.

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Illinois has no problem screwing Republicans. California, New York no

1108
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: problem screwing Republicans. But yet when this little needle wiener

1109
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: in the Senate gets the opportunity to do it, he

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01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: gets scared. He's scared to death. And this isn't the

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: first time that Rod Bray has screwed everybody. He was

1112
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: against constitutional carry for the longest time until allegedly the

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: NRA said he had be a shame if we stopped

1114
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: sending checks to you guys. Then all of a sudden,

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01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: Holy Jesus, he saw the light. So that's one strike

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01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: against this dude. Strike number two property taxes. He never

1117
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: wanted you to have any relief, but he was perfectly

1118
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: fine with his elite team of butt sniffers all making

1119
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: money on their side projects, capitalizing on businesses and property tax.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Braun, it wasn't Beckwith that screwed you. The

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: guy with the power leads the Senate, and that's Rod Bray.

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: And that's strike number two and three strikes in you're

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Speaker 1: out the redistrict map. Look, it's not the biggest deal

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, property tax, I think was a

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: much bigger deal. Sure, but the fact that this dude

1126
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: has the chance to bite back but instead tuckses crank

1127
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: between his legs tells you he's an ugly woman and

1128
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 1: walks away. So I'm done. Like I like to think

1129
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: that I was bashing Rod Bray before it was cool.

1130
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is piggybacking off of me. Guys like me

1131
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: that are tired of this crap. If you're stuck in

1132
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: an area where you got no good, rotten representative that

1133
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: you can't get rid of, this was an opportunity to

1134
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: do it, but we have to look virtuous and moral.

1135
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh bite me, well said, standing round of a plus.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, the room, thank you. I feel like you

1137
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: should say, he lou Jah, where's the title?

1138
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: And off? This is Rod Bray before it was cool?

1139
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Wow, I hope I get stuck at his table at

1140
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: a charity event on Thursday, by the way.

1141
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: And we sat with him last year's breakfast with the cop.

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01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stench was coming from across the table. Let's

1143
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: do something more fun, shall we. I need something to

1144
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: calm down because my blood pressure is about to go

1145
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: through the room fare.

1146
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 2: You need me to go get some pills back then.

1147
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: I think so there's a debate online would you rather

1148
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: cook the Thanksgiving meal or clean up everything afterwards? Would

1149
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: you rather be the cook? Spending a lot of time

1150
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: in the kitchen? Thanksgiving is a big deal. It's the

1151
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl for people who know how to cook. Or

1152
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: do you want to clean up all that crap afterwards?

1153
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: And that includes taking out the trash and doing the

1154
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: dishes and all of that kind of stuff. According to

1155
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: The Bowl, seventy seven percent say they would rather cook. Now,

1156
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm a liability in the kitchen, me too. You can't cook.

1157
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: I can't cook, Alison. I feel like you're a little

1158
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: bit more craftier than we are. Would you rather cook

1159
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: the meal or clean up the meal?

1160
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 6: So?

1161
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 13: I think I would rather cook, but I don't think

1162
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 13: i'd be as helpful cooking.

1163
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 4: I'd be more helpful cleaning up.

1164
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 13: My sister and my aunts, my mom, they're all great cooks.

1165
01:03:54,560 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 13: And every time I offered a help, they're kind of like, well, yeah,

1166
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 13: can you give me something that has exact directions on

1167
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 13: I can follow directions really well.

1168
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: Can you just can you lay out the napkins?

1169
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, the appetizer this year?

1170
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: And they're like, well, why don't you be a runner, right, Yeah,

1171
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: you go throw this away from me, clean up this calendar.

1172
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: Why don't you get everyone drinks?

1173
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm a cleaner man at night Thanksgiving, whatever I put

1174
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: in the earbuds, I listen to music, and I will

1175
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: clean and everybody else can go upstairs and I can

1176
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: have my quiet time. So Thanksgiving or whenever, I'm a cleaner.

1177
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: You know who's not a real MVP.

1178
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: If Thanksgiving and Christmas are big black trash bags. People

1179
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: that make the big black trash bag, You're the real

1180
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: MVP of Thanksgiving and Christmas, whether it's thrown away all

1181
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: the extra leftovers and food and all that stuff and

1182
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: the plates and the napkins, or all the wrapping paper

1183
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: and the ripped up boxes and the tape and all

1184
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: that stuff, MVP, big black trash bags. But go back

1185
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: to this kitchen debate here, Nige. Yes, great moments in

1186
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: kitchen history. Okay, how about Pops from Friday?

1187
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 9: Every time I come in the kitchen, you in the kitchen,

1188
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 9: damn refrigerating.

1189
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: The all the chicken, all the big feet. I want

1190
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: to eat some of them chicken. I love pigs feet.

1191
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: Great moments and kitchen history. Are you really okay?

1192
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 9: Anything's going to be okay?

1193
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: Are you okay?

1194
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm fine.

1195
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm pretty freeing far from okay.

1196
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: Are you okay with this? On the Hammer and Nigel?

1197
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: Is this for real? Really the thirty fifth Annual house

1198
01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: Keeping Olympics? Yeah, house Keeping Olympics just went down in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Events included things like making a bed or vacuuming a

1200
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: rug as fast as possible. Critics are saying the event

1201
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: is sexist, dystopian, and awful. Are you okay Hammer with

1202
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: the Housekeeping Olympics?

1203
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 6: Yes?

1204
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: Of course. What if you are a housekeeper and you

1205
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to win an awesome prize because you're

1206
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: really good at your job. Now this isn't like the

1207
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: first or the second. This is the thirty fifth Annual

1208
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: Housekeeping Olympics. Thirty four years it's been fine, but now

1209
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: it's sexist because of today's society. Right, it took thirty

1210
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: five years for almost to turn on the Housekeeping Olympics.

1211
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Speaker 2: I feel like you and your wife could probably win

1212
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: this thing. Describing as you did what your activities were

1213
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: over the weekend at the Hammer Household.

1214
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh Crystal could, I'd be there just bitching and complaining

1215
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: the entire time because that's kind of my mo. But no,

1216
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: what if you are somebody that takes a lot of

1217
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: pride in your job as a housekeeper. Sure, and it's

1218
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, like all of those hotels and resorts,

1219
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: the guests don't make the beds themselves, right, So I

1220
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: probably have some pretty good, pretty speedy housekeepers. And if

1221
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Speaker 1: you get a chance to win some extra cash or

1222
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: a trip or a prize or whatever they're giving away here,

1223
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: that's great.

1224
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Speaker 2: I have no problem with this at all. I love competition.

1225
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: Man A Texas State, Oh, I saw this. This was wild.

1226
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Speaker 2: A Texas State trooper was removed from the Texas A

1227
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Speaker 2: and M South Carolina game football game in college Station

1228
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: Texas camer A South Carolina players scored a touchdown right yes,

1229
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Speaker 2: and then ran into the tunnel with a possible injury.

1230
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: Video then showed this trooper intentionally bumping into the South

1231
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Carolina player who went to go check on their teammate

1232
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: in the tunnel. Did I describe that? All? Right? Is

1233
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: it ready? Night's going on? In this scenario?

1234
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: No Carolina player scores and then like kind of hobbles

1235
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: a little bit into the tunnel, crosses into the end zone,

1236
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: hobbles into the tunnel. His teammates running down the field.

1237
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: They go in the tunnel to either celebrate or check

1238
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: on their guy. So then they're off the camera. So then,

1239
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: because this game is broadcast on TV, it was a

1240
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: big one Texas A and M and South Carolina. The

1241
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: camera shows inside the tunnel and here comes Johnny Law right,

1242
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: Texas A and M trooper. He's like walking the wrong

1243
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: way down the tunnel, bumping into like some of the

1244
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: South Carolina players like staring him down, pointing at him,

1245
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: giving him a lecture. I posted this on our Twitter,

1246
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel over the weekend, so you might have

1247
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: to scroll down a little bit. Yeah I saw it,

1248
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: but listen, nobody is more pro police than I am.

1249
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: But this just looks like one of those just red ass,

1250
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: redneck Texas cops that would pull you over and say,

1251
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: looks like you've got a tail light out and then

1252
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: bust your tail light like they do in Porky's. That's

1253
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: who this guy kind of looks like he would be.

1254
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: And if he's doing this, like in front of thousands

1255
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: of fans on national television, what do you think this

1256
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: guy's doing to you? If you get mouthy in a

1257
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: traffic stop. So I'm glad they removed him from this situation.

1258
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: And I'm willing to bet it's jerks like this guy

1259
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: that other cops hate because they all get lumped into

1260
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: the same category. Give right, they all get lumped into.

1261
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: See this is how all cops are. It's not the

1262
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: case at all, but yeah, that guy was a jerk.

1263
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: Are you okay with this? A twenty two year old

1264
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: guy in Greece fighting for his life after friends say

1265
01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: he tried to swallow an in higher burger without chewing

1266
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: just to be funny. He's currently in the hospital on

1267
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: a ventilator. They believed he stopped breathing for two minutes.

1268
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: Are you okay with this? So this guy thought it'd

1269
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: be funny to swallow a hamburger without chewing it.

1270
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: Now, oh, he.

1271
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: Got stuck in his trachea. He couldn't breathe for two minutes,

1272
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: and now he's almost dead.

1273
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: On its face, it does count. The concept sounds funny,

1274
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: So mission accomplished, right, Somebody call up w will get

1275
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: the big military ship and put mission accomplished in the back.

1276
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: As he's laying on a ventilator somewhere in his hospital room. Listen.

1277
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes the circle of life has a way of working

1278
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: itself out. Like I'm sure this guy's family, I'm sure

1279
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: his loved ones, they're probably on pins and needles hoping

1280
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: for good news. But when somebody does something stupid like

1281
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: this has to go to the emergency room, you're taking

1282
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: the attention away from a doctor who could be working

1283
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: on somebody that didn't try to swallow a hamburger hole.

1284
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: So for that, I have a problem. So I'm okay

1285
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: with this. I'm okay that he tried it, I'm okay

1286
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: that it's funny, and I'm okay that he almost died.

1287
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: That's the trifecta right there. Some people would call it

1288
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: the fresh I call it the trifecta. I'm okay with

1289
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: all of it.

1290
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 10: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel showd.

1291
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: CD.

1292
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm Nigel Jason Hammer right over there. Trump rode a

1293
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: scathing teardown of MTG. Instead, she is no law, he said,

1294
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: He is no longer indorsing her. Large Marge, tell him

1295
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: a large marche, said, O man, Marjorie Taylor Green, you

1296
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: know with MTG.

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Speaker 1: Well, not dt uh. He called her Marjorie Trader Green.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, and.

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Speaker 1: A wacky Marjorie in a social media post, because all

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Speaker 1: she's doing is complaining about everything that he does, especially

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Speaker 1: in regards to the Epstein situation. He ripped her for

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Speaker 1: going on CNN, ripped her for going on the view,

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Speaker 1: and then jumped off of Air Force One. Had a

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Speaker 1: little press gaggle, and somebody said that Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 1: was concerned that the Maga folk were going to threaten

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Speaker 1: her and be violent to her in some way. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen to Trump next.

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Speaker 4: Her life would be a danger because of the rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: Her life is in danger. Who's that, Marthorie Taylor Green?

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Speaker 1: He said, Marjorie Trader Green. I don't think her life

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Speaker 1: is in danger.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Frankly, I don't think anybody cares about her.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, she participated in this rhetoric. Everything we're

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Speaker 2: talking about here, she was a major participant in it.

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Speaker 1: But now she's gone on you and she's gone on CNN.

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Speaker 1: She's a different person, Nige. Here she is on CNN

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Speaker 1: talking to Dana Bash about what really, you know, broke

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Speaker 1: up the good relationship between Large Marge and the Orange Man.

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Speaker 14: Unfortunately, it has all come down to the Epstein files,

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Speaker 14: and that is shocking. And you know, I stand with

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Speaker 14: these women. I stand with rape victims. I stand with

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Speaker 14: children who are in terrible sex abuse situations. And I

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Speaker 14: stand with survivors of trafficking and those that are trapped

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Speaker 14: in sex trafficking. And I will not apologize for that.

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Speaker 14: I believe the country deserves transparency in these files. And

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Speaker 14: I don't believe that that rich, powerful people should be

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Speaker 14: protected if they have if they have done anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, looks like we're going to get that right.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I can't believe I'm in this position here, but

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with large Marge here. Now. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have gone on the view, I wouldn't have gone on CNN.

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Speaker 1: But we've all been wanting the Epstein files released. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not having relations with kids because had

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Speaker 1: he been doing it, We've said it a million times,

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Speaker 1: the Left would have already used it against them. They

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: would have already had the information. So if he's covering

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Speaker 1: up for somebody, that's a shame. Let's find out who

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Speaker 1: it is. Let's find out who's involved here. But I

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Speaker 1: want to tell everybody be prepared to be let down,

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: because you know, you're not going to get any names

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: when all these files are dumped.

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Speaker 2: In a side note, I think Representative Green from Georgia,

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Speaker 2: she did say that she had a change of heart

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Speaker 2: in terms of like the toxic political rhetoric that she

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Speaker 2: was always involved in. That's what she was known for.

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Speaker 1: She was a flame thrower.

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Speaker 2: She was a flamethrower, and then after what happened with

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk changed her. So she's maybe scaled it back

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and that's maybe what this one eighty

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Speaker 2: is with her.

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Speaker 1: You can be throw Trump and also say sure he's

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: handled the Epstein thing about as bad as anybody could

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Speaker 1: possibly handle it. Another kind of feud, Okay, it's an

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: older feud, but somebody's using it as a springboard. And

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Speaker 1: that's somebody is lion Ted. Do no, Ted Cruz. Lion

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: Ted holds a Bible high, puts it down, and then

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Speaker 1: he lies live Li lies. According to Axios, Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: Texas senator laying the groundwork for a twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 1: presidential bid, wants to go toe to toe against JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance and he's using his little scuttle butt with Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson as part of his campaign Axios for recording that

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz is endearing himself to the powerful pro Israel donors,

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Speaker 1: many who aligned with Nikki Hayley in the last election,

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Speaker 1: but now there's not going to be a Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: involved here, so they feel like they've got a shot.

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Speaker 1: This is from Axios quote by poking at Tucker Carlson's isonlation,

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Speaker 1: isolationist foreign policy views, accusing him of anti Semitism and more,

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz is putting himself on a collision course with

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Speaker 1: VP vance a Carlson ally widely seen as the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight front runner. Very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson has a unique view about the whole thing

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Speaker 2: with Israel. He's like, you can you can either be

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Speaker 2: on Ted Cruz and like give Israel a bunch of

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Speaker 2: money and prop them up, or you can say Israel

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Speaker 2: has some problems too. But when you say Israel has

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Speaker 2: some problems to your accused being an anti stemlind correct.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the very base level of where all's

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Speaker 2: coming from.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of folks on the rights that

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Speaker 1: are upset with Tucker Carlson. Yes, and Tucker and Ted

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Speaker 1: have had heat for a while. It's not just about Israel.

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Speaker 1: It's about Iran. So let's take a little trip down

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Speaker 1: memory lane here. This is the last time I think

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson had an interview. Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: was all for bombing the but Jesus out of Iran.

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson was like basically calling him a warmonger. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's talking about. Take a listen.

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Speaker 10: I don't know the population at all. The population. You

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Speaker 10: don't know the population of the country. You see to topple.

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Speaker 1: How many people living around?

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Speaker 2: Nine eight two million? Okay, how could you not know that?

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Speaker 10: I don't sit around memorizing population tables.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the

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Speaker 12: overthrow of the government.

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Speaker 10: Why is it relevant whether it will because ninety million

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Speaker 10: or eighty million or one hundred million? What because if

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Speaker 10: you don't know anything about the country.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's

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Speaker 1: the ethnic.

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Speaker 2: Mix of Ron?

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Speaker 1: They are Persians and well predominantly Shia.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's not even you don't know anything about Iran.

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Speaker 1: So okay, I'm not the Tucker Carlson x burd on Iran.

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Speaker 12: You're a senator who's calling for the one government, the

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Speaker 12: one who's about the country.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't know anything about the country.

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Speaker 2: You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 2: Who can't figure out to say that, General Solamoni? And

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Speaker 2: you believe they're trying to murder Trump?

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Speaker 12: Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them

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Speaker 12: in retaliation.

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Speaker 10: And if you really believed that carrying out military strikes today,

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Speaker 10: who said Israel was right with our help?

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Speaker 1: So that was just part one. This thing went on

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes, and here's how it kind of

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Speaker 1: ultimately ended up.

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Speaker 10: I'm said, we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.

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Speaker 12: Well, this you're breaking news here because the US government

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Speaker 12: last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Fifer

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Speaker 12: denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on

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Speaker 12: Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.

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Speaker 10: We're not bombing then Israel's bombing, though you just said

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Speaker 10: we were. We are supporting, asks your senator. If you're

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Speaker 10: saying the United States government is now, we're worth a

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Speaker 10: run right now. People are listening.

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Speaker 1: So not your Tucker guy. Back in the day, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much of his new stuff you take in,

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Speaker 1: but you used to watch his television program Nightly Rightly? Yes,

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01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: where are we at with this here?

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Speaker 2: Well? You know, Donald Trump did end up bombing Iran

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Speaker 2: and it seemed to work out pretty well, right, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Ted Cruz is going to laying

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Speaker 2: the groundwork for twenty twenty eight. I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be jd Vance.

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Speaker 1: Is there enough folks though that are tired of the

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: whole Trump era? And that includes the people that are

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Speaker 1: as vice president and Marco Rubio? They want to go

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01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: in a different direction. They want to go.

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Speaker 2: Back to Marco Rubio is a star. They all support

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, so I'm not sure. I mean, they are

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Speaker 2: all one hundred percent one percent behind Donald Trump. And

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: Mark Rubio could be another guy, right. If it's not

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Speaker 2: jd Vance, it could be Mark Rubio in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: You know who's also considering a run for a different position.

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Speaker 1: California's governor Fartwell, No, Eric Swalwell, Fartwell contemplating a run

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: to be the governor in California. Now. The front runner

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01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: out there right now is this lunatic Katie Porter, who

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to do any sort of interviews where she

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01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: doesn't know all the questions. But Eric Swaalwell, the same

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Speaker 1: guy that is best known for farting on television, thinks

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01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: that he he could be the guy which brings us

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Speaker 1: to great moments and Eric Swalwell history. This happened recently

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: when friend of the show Alex Stein Prime Time Alex

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: Stein chased down Congressman Eric Swalwell and asked him about

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Speaker 1: that whole scandal of him hooking up with a Chinese spy.

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Speaker 8: Eric, is this fangang the Chinese spire? Remember when you

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Speaker 8: sat with that Chinese spire. Why don't you ever talk

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Speaker 8: about that fang fang? Remember your banging fang fang. People

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Speaker 8: were saying that she gave you.

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: This is the guy's banging Chinese spies.

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Speaker 8: Nobody investigates you, Eric, Why nobody investigates this guy banging

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Speaker 8: Chinese spies?

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 2: He was literally walking right next or Swollwell asking him

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Speaker 2: this question.

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Speaker 1: In his own unique way. He's got a point, Like

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Speaker 1: for four years we heard Donald Trump is a Russian asset.

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Speaker 1: We've got a dude on the Intel Committee that was

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Speaker 1: banging a Chinese spy and nobody seems to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: honey pot.

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Speaker 2: Eric Swawell, by the way, has ties to southern Indiana,

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Speaker 2: just saying it's a little safe about that.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Alison, I were talking about this, I think

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Speaker 1: on Friday. If you're Eric Swalwell, what's the most embarrassing

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Speaker 1: moment of your life getting caught as a member of

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Speaker 1: the Intel Committee hooking up with a Chinese spy or

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Speaker 1: farting on MSNBC.

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Speaker 15: The evidence is uncontradicted that the President used taxpayer dollars

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01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 15: to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat an election.

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Speaker 1: It's not an edited piece of audio that was as aired.

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01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 1: What's more humiliating if your Swallwell the fart or fang fang.

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Speaker 2: Well, he got away with the fang fang, than that

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01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,799
Speaker 2: ain't nothing to him, right, I mean, the fart lives forever.

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Speaker 1: If you remember the last time he ran for something

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Speaker 1: high profile, it was the presidency in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 1: it was a bad campaign that was like worse than Kamala's.

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Speaker 1: And there was some event he did. He was on

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Speaker 1: the stage and he thought he was delivering a line

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Speaker 1: where everybody would clap, and he was expecting applause, and

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Speaker 1: nothing happened.

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Speaker 15: But I will always be real with you. I will

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Speaker 15: be bold without the bowld.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I.

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Speaker 2: What it might as well.

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Speaker 1: Have sounded like this.

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Speaker 15: But I will always be real with you. I will

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Speaker 15: be bold without the bowld. My wife and I.

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01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: Like he thought that was a line. He thought that

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: was a zinger, and all we really got out of

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: there was a Jeb Bush kind of moment.

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Speaker 15: But I will always be real with you. I will

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 15: be bold without the bowl.

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Speaker 1: Please clap, that's the hammer and Nigel Nige, what's the

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Speaker 1: T shirt that I've got on today?

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Speaker 11: Eh?

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Speaker 1: KitKat? Yes?

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01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the candy bar one of my favorites. Somebody on

1511
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: the YouTube called me kit fat. Oh how rude. I

1512
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: like this shirt though.

1513
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: I got this shirt in Vegas at the biggest candy store.

1514
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: Got to eat him cold.

1515
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: They are better. Everything's better.

1516
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 2: Cold.

1517
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: Candy bars are better cold, not frozen, but cold. Reesey cups,

1518
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: candy bars, kit cats or all that stuff better, cold man,

1519
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Little TikTok hack for you here, Nuge, Are you on

1520
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: TikTok at all? Does your wife or kids get on TikTok?

1521
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: The wife does not me?

1522
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm not on TikTok. This woman's TikTok hack to

1523
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: stop spending money on takeout after work is to come

1524
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: home and immediately start preparing food. And when she says immediately,

1525
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: she means it. Take a listen.

1526
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 11: The key to a cooking up work is you got

1527
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 11: to come home and you can't take your clothes off.

1528
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 11: I still got my badge on this morning. I left

1529
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 11: it out, so I know I wasn't playing.

1530
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: I mean, shoes off, but I can't even sit down.

1531
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna pee. I gotta start now.

1532
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Now. That's the first thing I get. That's the first

1533
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: thing I do when I get home. I go pee, No,

1534
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: and then I'll start prepping food. That's the biggest change

1535
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: I've seen with the Hammers. I know we're up against it,

1536
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: Hammer Hammer, Jason Crystal, you guys prepare your food every week. Yeah,

1537
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: and that's one of the biggest changes I've seen with

1538
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 2: your guys's lifestyle.

1539
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: It helps. Man, if you're doing like a diet plan,

1540
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: you can still eat good stuff like I still eat

1541
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: pizza and wings. But if you prep it out and

1542
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: you do it the right way, saves.

1543
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: You from rushing around in the morning.

1544
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: If you're in a hurry, right, yeah, oh that's a

1545
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: big part of it. Yeah, prepping, prepping, prep, maybe prep

1546
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: man it one, two, three, four,