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Speaker 1: Wow, we've done bourbons, let's do cigars. It's eat drink

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Speaker 1: slow gum Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy our best of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We're not like these other people. We're not cheating the year.

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Speaker 1: We wait the full year and then we review the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a basketball team that has a

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Speaker 3: twenty point lead with thirty seconds left, just running out

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, it's not like that at all.

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Speaker 2: Glad we agree. Where did the sports metaphor come from?

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Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Sports. Everybody knows that. I did just.

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Speaker 1: Realize since we take two weeks to do the bourbon

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Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It would still be the same. You just realized that.

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Speaker 2: I literally just realized that. As we were talking.

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Speaker 3: I looked at it as we had two more weeks

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Speaker 2: Like the way, like the way you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: We did our bourbons just last week, and for me

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Speaker 1: it was a rum and for Fingers, was it Was

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Speaker 1: it a rye for you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a rye.

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Speaker 1: See, we didn't even pick bourbons as our top bourbons

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Speaker 3: Yes, and but for cigars of the year, it may

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Speaker 2: No, when it's a cigar, it's a cigar.

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Speaker 1: The only rule is it's something that we reviewed on

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Speaker 1: We're paying attention to size, absolutely, not paying attention to

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Speaker 1: particular manufacturer. Absolutely not. Now, if we have cigars that

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Speaker 1: we absolutely will tell you. Does that influence our decision making? Well,

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Speaker 1: Going to be each doing our cigars, I went early

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Speaker 2: This is the double oad from Woodford reserved.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to pick something that we've certainly done on

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Speaker 2: But this coming in fingers maloy.

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Speaker 1: At sixty dollars a bottle right here, forty five alcohol

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Speaker 3: And I would I would say this, that's not a

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Speaker 1: Moy has three cigars. I have three cigars. We do

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Speaker 1: not have any overlap in our cigars. We didn't have

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Speaker 3: First of all, very little sting on the tongue, no

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Speaker 1: This isn't always in your liquor cabinet.

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Speaker 1: Our kremble At is saying. It's not just sweet. There's

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Speaker 3: doing the Memphis Munch. I have seen other people review

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Speaker 2: And I think this does a really good job of that.

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Speaker 2: I just happen to be out.

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Speaker 1: But the Double Oaks, more than just the Woodford Reserve,

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Speaker 1: We do three here, we don't do we don't do ten.

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Speaker 2: Our cigar choices come from, well, what did we like?

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Speaker 2: Nothing more, nothing less? My choices, fingers choices.

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Speaker 1: I think that that there's a there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Now, when you looked at your final list, just really quick,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had ten cheese.

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Speaker 1: I had a very very interesting list that I will

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Speaker 2: But we will find out.

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Speaker 1: I'll start first, what were my cigars of the year.

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Speaker 1: We will get into them, and we're gonna smoke one

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Speaker 1: So how do you decide your top three cigars of

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Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy. Honestly, there comes a moment where you're not

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Speaker 2: I think that's the truth. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I look at my list and I think

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Speaker 3: but I mainly smoke one, so that makes it tough.

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Speaker 1: So I'll start with my top three cigars, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do that right now.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I had ten cigars on my list.

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Speaker 1: These were my honorable mentions. This is how insane my

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Speaker 1: list is. The blank the Black Angus FSG, which was

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Speaker 1: Corona Cigar in in line with or in league with

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Speaker 1: Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust. We ordered that as a special order.

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Speaker 1: The Speaking of Dunbarton, the sober Maso Brulet Blue Unicorn.

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Speaker 1: I I don't want to speak to out of school.

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Speaker 1: The two places where you and I had crossover, the

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Speaker 1: This story that fingers Maloy found, I do not believe.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely not it. It could be people going

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Speaker 3: Well, you didn't go further into the article, Tony. According

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Speaker 3: that California Pizza Kitchen is also struggling. I know you're

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Speaker 2: People do love the CPK.

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Speaker 3: Can we do that? That's not something you do. You're

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Speaker 3: above rubbing it in, So can we sure?

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Speaker 2: Nice? We will get into that. I don't think America

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Speaker 1: This story will be at E Drink smokeshow dot com.

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Speaker 1: Do you drink smoke your cigar bourbon foody Extravaganza? I

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Speaker 1: should call it your cigar drink foody Extravaganza because we're

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Speaker 3: You know, everything is switching around the rules over here,

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Speaker 3: Bourbon of the Year, and three quarters of the beverages

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you drink smoke your cigar bourbon foodie extrava Aganza.

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Speaker 1: Didn't mean to step on your right, That's okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker.

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Speaker 1: Fingers Malloy.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: We're doing our top three cigars of the year. I

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Speaker 1: a very very different list. We have a very very

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Speaker 1: Reserve double oaked right here.

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Speaker 2: To you, Fingers Boloy, and that very happy New Year

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Speaker 2: to me. Fingers, bolloying, gosh, that's good.

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Speaker 1: The double oaked sixty dollars a bottle, ninety point four proof.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely in the liquor cabinet at all times, still looking

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Speaker 1: thing that you don't think Cremberulet was right.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a pretty good there's.

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Speaker 3: A vanilla, there's a creamy, but I was looking for

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Speaker 3: there's I sometimes I've had and I've gotten my desserts

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Speaker 3: my desserts are made by Little Debbie.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I thought there was some fruit on there, but it

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Speaker 3: wasn't a bananas foster that was thinking it because that's

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Speaker 3: you know the vanilla, you know that cree.

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Speaker 2: Hard show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was like, okay, what's that? Yeah, what's

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Speaker 3: and thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Everything goes back to our good friends at Willie Wonka.

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Speaker 1: So my top three cigars, my number three was the

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Speaker 1: h trec Hotcake.

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Speaker 2: That is the black Dot Fresh out of the oven.

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Speaker 1: That's what the cigar is known as very very nice,

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Speaker 1: the band. Some people are gonna have to wait just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You were sick fingers molloy, you had

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Speaker 1: the way, you all better? I'm a tank right rain?

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I I down all the gas station food today and

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Speaker 1: And you look like, well, thank you. You got the haircut?

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Speaker 1: Are you going for full mullet?

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Speaker 3: I mean, because it doesn't have the spiky road dog

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Speaker 2: It's it's a it's long. Sorry, I'm sorry, I lost

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Speaker 3: Yeah, road Dog, the wrestler from the WWF back in

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Speaker 2: But it is yea, it's long in the back, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the sides all business. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You were sick, fingers, you had, you had a cold,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a touch of the gout, hysterical pregnancy.

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Speaker 2: I was here, you were celebrating.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you didn't come to the e drink smoke studios

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Speaker 1: It's not a brand that would ever have come to mind.

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Speaker 1: But this was from our our friends. I believe in

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Speaker 2: And this is the appointment. And I had it as

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Speaker 1: Which was a six and a half by sixty, totally

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Speaker 1: not my style. And I'm telling you that cigar knocked

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Speaker 1: Cameroon in the wrapper, Connecticut, broad leaf in the binder filler,

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Speaker 1: For eight dollars and seventy nine cents. It was for

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Speaker 2: I was expecting nothing. I was expecting a little bit tobacco.

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Speaker 1: When I was done, I have had twenty five dollars

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Speaker 1: cigars that were nowhere near as good as the alrey

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Speaker 1: Doo Mondo appointments. It's a box, now, I I did,

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Speaker 1: I'll give this one to you because we I had

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Speaker 1: six fifty four.

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Speaker 1: The Toro comes in at an MSRP of nine dollars

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Speaker 1: you that that cigar was quite simply a revelation. I

438
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: was overjoyed. Now, by the way, I should note that

439
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: the the Hotcake, I was trying to figure out what

440
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: the price of that was. The MSRP in like fifteen

441
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: bucks or something on that was it? Am I making

442
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: stuff up in my head? You might be I was

443
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: looking for the price. I'm like, oh my gosh, I

444
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: thought I had it seventeen dollars. Seventeen dollars. So it

445
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: was just it was really an enjoyable smoke, and so

446
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm glad I put it on the list.

447
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: The HC Hotcake.

448
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: This at nine dollars a stick, nine dollars a stick

449
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: is an absolute home run best value of the year,

450
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: ten million percent.

451
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: I would smoke that cigar every day. Well, and this

452
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: is a terrific reminder and lesson to not dismiss a

453
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: cigar just based on what you think is your intuition

454
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: or past experiences or I don't smoke that brand.

455
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm curious, you know, because this cigar is

456
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: in your humid door, and yet you had never tried.

457
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: It, and no it wasn't.

458
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: I happen to be at the cigar lab Scar Hayn,

459
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'm look, look right, what try this try? Which

460
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: I and someone recommended that, like sure, gotta try things, right.

461
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: We always talk about trying new things. So glad I

462
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: did it? Is it is a must, not not a hey?

463
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: This is good must.

464
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: In the I remember doing the episode and you you're

465
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: going on about that cigar and how much you enjoyed

466
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: it and how shocked you were, and you you said

467
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 3: at the time, you said this, this may make my

468
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: list at the end of the year. And here we are.

469
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

470
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: And that rapper is done by uh by the Aroas.

471
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think that's Christian aroa Uh.

472
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Who who does that one?

473
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a combination of Christo, uh,

474
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: Christian and and and Husto. But it's in uh, then

475
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: it's in Hondura, Honduras.

476
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: I never get it right. The Jemastron Valley is that

477
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: what I call it?

478
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I believe that's correct. So that's where the rappers from.

479
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Just terrific and absolute must. Now it's time fingers way

480
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 1: for news of the week. But I don't know if

481
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: we're even doing news of the week right, I don't

482
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: know if we should get to it. I could do

483
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: a quick one if if, if you would rather, if

484
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: you would rather me just hit that.

485
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: I threw them for a loop, ladies and gentlemen.

486
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I can tell you right now,

487
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: USA Today has the story. People are asking about tax

488
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 3: Day already, Tony. It's right around the corner. Believe it's

489
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: on April fifteenth. It is on April fifteenth this year.

490
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes depending on the time of the month, it may

491
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: be the seventeenth.

492
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: We've seen that before.

493
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: It falls on a weekend, yes, but it is April

494
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: fifteenth this year, ladies and gentlemen. So don't think you

495
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: can just send your taxes in on April seventeenth and

496
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: have everything be fine and dandy. You'll be in big trouble.

497
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: Big trouble, Tony, trouble in tax town.

498
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: I am very curious to see. There's been a lot

499
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: of talk from the administration about how the passing of

500
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: I forget what the official name is, the one Big

501
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill back in July. Now things go into effect

502
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: because it's twenty twenty six and there's supposed to be

503
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: many more large scale refunds.

504
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: I want to hear what happens with people.

505
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear him say refund, because nothing would

506
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: make me happier than me keeping my.

507
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Money is Bring on, number one. That's your fingers, that's me.

508
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: You're number one. I'm number one. At least my mom

509
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: thinks I'm cool. It's true. See drink smoke.

510
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur. Drink her fingers. Molloy,

511
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: of course she's dead. Good lord, what she still thinks

512
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: you number one?

513
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: That's true? That is that is true. Let's get a

514
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: little sappy. Don't look down, don't look how dare you?

515
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: How dare you? God, you're terrible? She would laugh at

516
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: all this.

517
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: By the way, we are reviewing our top three cigars

518
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: of the year. We wait till the year is out

519
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: before we do our reviews. We're special that way. We're

520
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: doing my cigars first. My number three was the HVC

521
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Hotcake Fresh out of the oven. That cigar with a

522
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: gold label black dot was an enjoyable, enjoyable smoking.

523
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: There you go at seventeen dollars.

524
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: My number two was the Lray del Mundo appointment at

525
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: eight dollars and something.

526
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: Since let's call it nine.

527
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: Bucks a stick, thirty seven eight dollars and thirty seven

528
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: cents a stick.

529
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: You're really like you are the rain man of this show.

530
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: You truly are.

531
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: That cigar knocked me over, knocked me over, made me

532
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: fall down. I thought it was just a perfectly put

533
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: together cigar for the price. I have not tasted anything

534
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: like it. The l Ray ri e y l Ray

535
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: del Mundo appointment I had as the Gordo. I've had

536
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: the Toro since. I don't care which one you smoke.

537
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: It was just that much of a pleasure with a

538
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: bit of pepper, a bit of cocoa. There was a

539
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: sweetness that was kind of weaving itself through out.

540
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Just beautiful for under ten bucks in today's economy.

541
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, you sounded like a fan. I of course,

542
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: was halfway across town as you were smoking it.

543
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were sick. I was sick. You were sick

544
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: that episode.

545
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 3: But I'm very happy I get to try one of

546
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: my very own thanks to Tony Katz.

547
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm a giver.

548
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm a very generous cigar. That's right, what cigar is that?

549
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: What you just cigar, and then I'm like, oh, why

550
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: those little finger guns boo boo, poo poo, But what's

551
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: my number one?

552
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: My number one cigar? Smoking it right now.

553
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: When I first smoked the cigar, the exact words I

554
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: used were, why haven't I had this before? And how

555
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: is it possible that Michael Herklots didn't make this a.

556
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Part of the line.

557
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Michael Herklotz is the mind behind farry Otago, and I've

558
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: interviewed Michael Herclotz. We did an extensive interview this year

559
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: while we were able to meet up.

560
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: These are made by Placentia. That's where these are rolled.

561
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: I should say this is the farry Otago timeless TAA

562
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: exclusive for twenty twenty four, So this is only sold

563
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: in shops that are part of the Tobacconist Association of

564
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: America and cigar manufacturers do a cigar sometimes for TAA shops,

565
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: only for THAA shops. What I was told was that

566
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: this was the precursor to what is now the standard

567
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: in the Fariotago line, the Generoso And I told Michael Herclotz,

568
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: then a farry Otago and I say it, now, this

569
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: what I am smoking The timeless TAA exclusive for twenty

570
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: twenty four is a better stick and a stick that

571
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: I would buy anywhere, anytime. Nineteen dollars a stick. The

572
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: answer is no question. I have bought boxes. I have

573
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: given these cigars away, and the response every time from

574
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: people who know is like, what am I smoking here?

575
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: It's that good? That's a maduro rapper. There is a wonderful, joyful.

576
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Richness in this and that's.

577
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: The part that works fully enveloping the cheek, really taking

578
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: over the tongue. You could argue that it's tobacco forward

579
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: if you'd like, but it's it's creamy tobacco.

580
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: It isn't overspiced. It's just right there.

581
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: It's not like you're getting a hard edge cocoa note

582
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: or vanilla note or anything like that. Here's a little

583
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: bit for me, I would argue, is a little piece

584
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: of wood that's in there, and so that spice to

585
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: me is a little more cedar than let's say, pepper.

586
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: For me, it is sensational.

587
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: If this was I wonder if I could do this

588
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: every day, But I'm bothered that I can't do it

589
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: every week. So there's I think the difference in this

590
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: cigar it is a little bit larger in my view,

591
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: they I think they would consider this a full bodied cigar.

592
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: But how this wasn't the regular production, I'll never understand.

593
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I prefer this over the General So every day of

594
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: the week, Generals is a nice cigar. Most people know

595
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: the Suma and that's the one I think that's really

596
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: for them, has been the most popular. This this should

597
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: be in the line. It is delicious, it is nutritious,

598
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: It is good for you, It builds character, it keeps

599
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: away vampires. The TAA exclusive twenty twenty four from Farry

600
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Otago The Timeless My Cigar. Look at that beautiful son

601
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: of a gun My cigar of the Year fingers spectacular.

602
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fantastic. I've got a soft spot for Michael

603
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: and what he's done, just because, you know, when we

604
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: started doing the show, when I started getting back into cigars,

605
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: and I wasn't nearly into cigars in my twenties and

606
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: thirties as I am now. But when we first started,

607
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: one of the first, you know, really cigar lines that

608
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed was the Timeless line Nat Sherman, And

609
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: when it went away, it was.

610
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: Like, ah, it broke my heart.

611
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: Tony, it broke my heart and here we Timeless is

612
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: back thanks to Michael. And that's wonderful that that's the

613
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: cigar of the Year for twenty twenty five.

614
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I have two more in the

615
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: humid Or and uh, this will also be if I

616
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: can find it by the box, we'll be purchased.

617
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: I can't find it by the box, I'll buy it

618
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: by the single state. Is it getting harder and harder

619
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: to find?

620
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was only for TAA right, so maybe

621
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: there's some other places that happened to get some Since

622
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to out anybody, I don't want to

623
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: break any rules or get any any trouble. Uh it

624
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: magically leprecuns brought it to me.

625
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

626
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's harder to find. It's just all together.

627
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: It hits all the giggle spots. I believe. I believe

628
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: that's the expression that'll keep most people up at night.

629
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: Tony and his giggle spots.

630
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: Well, I think you ripped that off from a review

631
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: from Cigar Aficionado.

632
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: Oh I did, I did? I took that right from Shankman.

633
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I did.

634
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even shy about come and

635
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: get me Savona.

636
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: That's that's what I've never met him. He's a nice guy.

637
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: I have reached out about.

638
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Doing some interviews with with Savona. We just haven't been

639
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: able to put that together yet. But I got to

640
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: get that done. I need to do more interviews, a

641
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: lot of people to talk to.

642
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: In this well. Maybe suggest that if you got that interview,

643
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: it would would you say, scratch your inner giggles? Is

644
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: that what you said?

645
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: It hits all my giggles, hits oh, hits all of

646
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: your giggle spots. So that's that's what I said.

647
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Scratching a giggle spot wouldn't make any sense at all

648
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: unless you wanted the giggling to stop.

649
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: By the way, I said Shankman and Shankin I got

650
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: his last name wrong too, So that's.

651
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: There goes the interview.

652
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Can tell me about it here. I am trying to

653
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: make the jokes feel how cool I am? And and

654
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not right, and I got it wrong.

655
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Can you believe that?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been it's been a show so far. I

657
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Speaker 3: said more better in the first segment, and then I

658
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Speaker 3: just said, scratch the giggles, guys, I saw scratch the

659
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Speaker 3: Giggles open up for Ongle boyin Going eighty eight. It's

660
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Speaker 3: a fantastic there is I am.

661
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: I am just overjoyed with the smoke and I'm thrilled

662
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: to be smoking it right now. It really is, it

663
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: really is something special, just what's happening here. And you know,

664
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: if you go back, you and you listen to what

665
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: we talk about, sometimes things sound the same creaminess and

666
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Speaker 1: not einess, a spice, etc. But sometimes, and you know this,

667
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668
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Speaker 1: That it might not even I didn't even know, it's

670
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Speaker 1: what my palette wanted. That's absolutely something I can respect.

671
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Speaker 1: Maloy nor I actually know. What we know is we

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Speaker 1: It's it's a knockout of a cigar, Fingers Boy, I.

721
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely love it. And so the question is, and you

722
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: kind of touched on it earlier, is you know, being

723
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: that you love this cigar so much, how you're gonna

724
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: get your hands on more of these?

725
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not the easiest cigar to find. By

726
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the way, it comes in one size. It's a six

727
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: by fifty, which means that it is six inches long.

728
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: T always makes fingers Boy laugh. And the ring gauge

729
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: is the fifty the diameter of the cigar, or how

730
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: thick it is around tea again with the laughter.

731
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: A sixty four ring gage will be a full one

732
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Speaker 2: inch a round.

733
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Speaker 1: So anyway in that forty eight to fifty two, maybe

734
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: fifty four, but forty to fifty two, that's where I

735
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: really like to be, unless I can get my hands

736
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: on Lanceo, which is a thirty eight ring gauge, so

737
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: much much thinner, but you get more rapper, and the

738
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: rapper ratio to binder and filler gives you a lot

739
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: more flavor.

740
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: I like Lancero's quite a bit. And the answer is,

741
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

742
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find more. This is an absolutely fantastic smoke

743
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: now Fingers has his three cigars of the year. We

744
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: will be getting into them and we're drinking the Woodford

745
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Reserve Double Oak. So because it's a best of show,

746
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: our system is a little bit thrown off the double

747
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Oak coming in at ninety point four proof. The wood

748
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Woodford is one is a classic. It's a standard that

749
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: should be in your liquor cabinet. But the double Oak

750
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: should absolutely be in the liquor cabinet. I can't say

751
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: it enough. Sixty dollars a bottle really, depending on where

752
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: you shop. It is just a wonderful presentation of a

753
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: fair amount of.

754
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Sweet, but not overly sweet. The oak is doing its

755
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: job there. I'm going back in Fingers wi wig, I

756
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: got a little choked up.

757
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: Well, a single oak may not be able to get

758
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: that choked up feeling away, but that double oaked takes

759
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: that choked up feeling and just throws it in the

760
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: trash can.

761
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: And the heat is You're hilarious. The heat is not

762
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: is not overwhelming.

763
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: So it's this really gentle bit of spice that's in there,

764
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: and really you're just you're, you're, you're, you're covered by

765
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: everything else and in the caramel and and those really traditional,

766
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: if you will, kind of bourbon flavors, and so the

767
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: double oaked is just a must for the liquor cabinet.

768
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: But one of the things that we brought up there

769
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: was the story out of the Daily Mail about how

770
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: Americans are turning their back on pizza. I don't believe

771
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: that's true. I don't think that's factual. And what I'm

772
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: saying is is that if we're talking about where people

773
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: are with with with their trends, like with with their

774
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: with their eating habits, it's not that they're.

775
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: Saying, oh, pizza, who wants that.

776
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: They're saying a pizza might be more expensive than it

777
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: used to be, and I have to make other choices.

778
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: And so there there are two stories here. Fridays TGI

779
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: Fridays now only has eighty five stores.

780
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: But this has been a long time coming.

781
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Are you gonna tell me that all of a sudden

782
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: people have grown adverse to potato skins?

783
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Impossible? That's correct.

784
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: The brand is not what it used to be and

785
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: the excitement isn't what it used to be and how

786
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: it started in Manhattan and the entire world that came

787
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: from that, whether we're talking about Fridays, whether we're talking

788
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: about what was Manhattan institution called Maxwell's Plumb and then

789
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Mondays came from this and Wednesday there were all these things,

790
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: and then how it got bought and it became the

791
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: place of flair, you know, and it spawned that whole

792
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: thing with Bennegan's and all the rest. Brands do have

793
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: a course oftentimes very few things are forever very few things.

794
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, people used to shop at the Pigley Wiggly.

795
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 2: Did you ever think that the Pigley Wiggly was gonna

796
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: go out? Fingers?

797
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: You when when Mother's Maloy, mothers mother Maloy would take

798
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: you to the Pigley Wiggly.

799
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: Right, if Cheesy's memories, it's like it was yesterday, right, Yeah,

800
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: you know, by the way, did she ever take you

801
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: to the Pigley?

802
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: We had no Piggy Wigglies in Michigan. This is my point.

803
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: This is my point.

804
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: Some very few brands are really like through the generation

805
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: brands like things do go.

806
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: The other thing too, when it comes to TGI Friday,

807
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 3: it feels like you had competitors in the same kind

808
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: of genre of restaurants like Applebee's and Chili's that offered

809
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: the same food, but TGI Friday it always felt like

810
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: was a little bit more expensive. So it's like, okay,

811
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: what yeah, so what are we going here for?

812
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: They did have.

813
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: Better, uh like mixed drinks at TGI Fridays. From what

814
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, you could get several drinks from

815
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: TGI Fridays that had umbrellas in them.

816
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh. But having said that.

817
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: People you know, are making choices, and these chains they

818
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: get stale and more expensive, and you got a competitor

819
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: comes up. Next thing, you know, you had seven eight

820
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: hundred locations. Next thing, you know, twenty years later.

821
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Speaker 2: You got eighty.

822
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: This goes into another story from NJ dot com, which

823
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: stands for a New Jersey. Arby's has closed a number

824
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: of stores across the country. They have thirty six hundred locations.

825
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: They've closed dozens of them. Am I to believe that

826
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people don't want fast food? Absolutely not.

827
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: I think America is catching on to the fact that

828
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: curly fries are terrible.

829
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: Shut your filthy face, curly fries, jamocha shake.

830
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: This is why Arby's doesn't follow you.

831
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: That's why they have you blocked time to me, they

832
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: blocked you on Twitter X. They did, and this is

833
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: why Arby's. Hey, Hey, doing Arby's your friend, Tony. I

834
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: just want you to know that curly fries and Jamocha shakes,

835
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: they're perfect and we'd love to be able to share

836
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: those with the Eat, Drink, smoke nation world. So if

837
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to send them by,

838
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: I'll be sure to keep a good eye on them

839
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: and enjoy them. And I won't give Fingers any because

840
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve them. There's a reason you blocked him

841
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: on social media. It's because he's a bastard. So with that,

842
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: thank you Arby's, and just remember Wendy's skank.

843
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: You sound like Ralph Wigham. My cat's bread spills like

844
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: cat food. I'm so hungry I can eat Arby's. Remember that.

845
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I know why they don't follow me. No,

846
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: I know why they blocked me.

847
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: We're doing Ralph Wiggham, We're doing Ralph Wigham. Try and

848
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: get that. I'm SmartLess. It's not gonna happen.

849
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Your move, Bateman of I yeah, I like both those things,

850
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: and I like Garby's. I like Garby now, Hardy's Carls

851
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Junior on the West coast is my guilty pleasure for sure.

852
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: What is it with the whole west of the Mississip

853
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: Carls Junior, east of the Mississip.

854
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: Hellman's and Best Foods.

855
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know there was it was some kind of

856
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: deal made with the mafia.

857
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 2: I mean, there is no mafia. I don't know.

858
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why it is, but it is. You

859
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: were afraid the Carl's Junior mafia was gonna come after you.

860
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: I think all of these things, some things have to

861
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: do with age, and some things have to do with economics.

862
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: I just don't think people are done with pizza. I

863
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: think that's a silly silly Hey, let me write an

864
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: article argument. Shame on you, Daily Mail. And as for you,

865
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Arby's keep those Jamoba shakes company. So let's talk cigars

866
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: of the year, because fingers belong here as his top three.

867
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I did my top three. You may have missed it.

868
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Speaker 2: Or right now, fingers belong.

883
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Speaker 1: As you were putting together your top three cigars, what

884
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: were you looking at?

885
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: I was looking at sticks that I remembered that stuck

886
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 3: with me a little bit. I have the same problem

887
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: with the cigars as I had with the Bourbon, where

888
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: I felt like we did a lot of you know,

889
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 3: nice cigars, a lot.

890
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Of that we really enjoyed. But I had to.

891
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: Revisit our list from the year because there wasn't a

892
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: bunch of cigars that just like made me run to

893
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: the to the cigar shop and say give me three

894
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: or four. It just didn't happen for me this year.

895
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: The whole year was weird. We said that about Bourbon. Yeah,

896
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 3: we said that about Bourbon. I will disagree. I didn't

897
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: feel that way about cigars. I thought we smoked some

898
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: freaking bangers.

899
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: I thought we were in There were things that we

900
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: were able to do that were just yeah, this is

901
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: I am thrilled to see this growth in the industry.

902
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: So for me, well, I did go back through the list.

903
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: There were things that jumped out that I immediately remembered.

904
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I finally figured out what my problem is.

905
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: Is it your attitude? It actually was my proper hygiene.

906
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: I shaved us six weeks ago.

907
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: Great, thank you. Yeah.

908
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: No, I finally figured out and it just hit me

909
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: right now as to why maybe cigars in Bourbon didn't

910
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: move me like they normally do, and the list was

911
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: a little bit harder. Was because I was so distracted

912
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: this year or this past year because of the move,

913
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: because of the move, getting my father down here, I

914
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: didn't smoke nearly as many cigars over the course of

915
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: the year. You know, during football season, I'd sit in

916
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: my garage and smoke you know, three or four on

917
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: a Sunday, and I didn't do any of that this year.

918
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: So maybe I was just because I was distracted, that

919
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: could be. So it was a little bit trickier for

920
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: me to come up this list. Yes, so you're right,

921
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: we did smoke a lot of I didn't mean it

922
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: that we didn't smoke a lot of great cigars.

923
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: It's just nothing stuck, you know.

924
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: But I think people can appreciate that life gets in

925
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: the way, right, and and and you don't.

926
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: Get to do things as you normally would.

927
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: You didn't get to try as many as you would

928
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: to go back and try something, yeah, and really kind

929
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: of take it in.

930
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: So that does that does make sense. But these are

931
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: the ones that stuck with you.

932
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm smoking my number three on the list.

933
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, you know, Tony and I were talking

934
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: about this off air, I could just lump all three

935
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: of these together, because you know, as far as oh

936
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: there's this is definitely number one on my list, I

937
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: really don't feel that way. But I'm gonna put this

938
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: at number three for no other reason than I'm usually

939
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: the value guy, right and this cigar the Rocky Patel

940
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: thirtieth Anniversary.

941
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: Ah, there you go, which.

942
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 3: We reviewed what a month month and a half ago.

943
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: For those who were keeping track, it was the episode

944
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: which included Orio Gate.

945
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: We've heard nothing from Orio Gate, nothing.

946
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: From the Oreo people, as opposed to the Imagine people,

947
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: the movie theater people, who are fantastic and we love them.

948
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: We still have to do something with them. We haven't

949
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: been able to put this together yet, but I have

950
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: not forgotten. But that's another story, yeah, for another day.

951
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: So, but this Rocky Hotel three anniversary six and a

952
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: half by fifty two, which means it's six and a

953
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: half inches long.

954
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: See, he forget it, you get the idea.

955
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: Uh, it's Mexican sand Let me try to get all right,

956
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: it's six and a half inches long. Ha, No, fifty

957
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: two is the ring gauge, which means how thick it

958
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: is around?

959
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm trying so new. I need a catchphrase.

960
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me try this. Suck it to me.

961
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: There it is. See I thought you were gonna go

962
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: with waka waka. Yeah, keep guessing.

963
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: So, but this also so the rapper Mexican San Andreas.

964
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: It's a double binder from Nicaragua, and also the filler

965
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: is Nicaragua n Honduran. The binders age seven years, the

966
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: filler is aged five years. It's a box press beautiful presentation. Yeah, uh,

967
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: just gorgeous if you're watching on YouTube right now.

968
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: I just feel about those big bands. It was kind

969
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: of like two inch three inch bands. I love looking

970
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: at them, you know, if.

971
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: I you know, it's one of those things where such

972
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: a great answer. I love looking at them if you

973
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: have you know, my second humotor had a nice glass

974
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: lid so I could look down and there's a beautiful

975
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: band with it's two or three inches wide. I isn't

976
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: that wonderful? And then you go to smoke it and

977
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of it.

978
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: You I. If it's one band, I don't care.

979
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: The multiple band thing kind of gets me and in

980
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: mine like the Ferry Otago, the TAA exclusive for twenty

981
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: twenty four, which is my cigar of the Year, has

982
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: three bands on it.

983
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I know, maybe don't. Here's what's

984
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: tricky about that.

985
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: I took Fingers Mois senior to a cigar lounge not

986
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: too long ago. Yeah, and I cannot remember. This was

987
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 3: back in May, and his cigar that he was smoking,

988
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: wish I remember which one it was had two bands

989
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: on it. And his eyesight is failing him, so he's

990
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: trying to peel the band off. Next thing, you know,

991
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: much of the cigar wrappers also been torn off, so

992
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: you know.

993
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: That happens to people who have perfect site.

994
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's just one more way you could damage

995
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: your cigars. You're trying to get that second band off.

996
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: So no, I just like a small little band. That's

997
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: all I like. But this is it's a beautiful cigar.

998
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: It's a box press. It's got really great hand feel,

999
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: the notes to it. It's tobacco forward, it's got some cocoa.

1000
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: It's a nice bit of a little bit of spice,

1001
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 3: not too much. This is my splurge cigar. So depending

1002
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: on where you're looking, I've seen it anywhere from fifteen dollars,

1003
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: which is like, oh wow, I paid twenty two for this,

1004
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 3: So it's like, I really like this cigar. We reviewed

1005
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: it a month ago and both of us raved about it.

1006
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: It was all about, uh, the price pointing. But it's

1007
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, Tony and I am trying to turn

1008
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: a new leaf because we found this with you know,

1009
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: across the market, cigars are going up, the prices are

1010
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: going up. They've gone up, you know a lot in

1011
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: the past year and a half, so maybe it's time

1012
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: for a readjustment. So I'm trying to do that.

1013
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think in twenty twenty

1014
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: six we should say this is the price. Yeah, this

1015
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: is the price at that price. Isn't in the humid

1016
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: or yes? Yes or no?

1017
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: Think I think it's a nice pick and it's interesting.

1018
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a box press on my list, and

1019
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I love a box press. I like that feel and

1020
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: everything else. But no, don't have that on the lit

1021
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: Did you just ask on your computer?

1022
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you have a little rubberized matt to cover

1023
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: the keyboard? I've got a keyboard caddy? Is that what

1024
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: they call it? No? I just just named it. That

1025
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: is that good? Does that work? Well? Did you I

1026
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: have no ash now on my keyboard? Yeah? But yells? Maybe?

1027
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: Does it? Is it weird to type? No?

1028
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 3: Really, especially when i'm you know a lot of times

1029
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm just talking my assistant Kate, uh through the computer

1030
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: on you have to type anything?

1031
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, he's got an AI assistant named Kate and

1032
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: it's and it's weird. Why is it weird?

1033
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: Because because you have an AI assistant and you don't

1034
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: need an assistant look at me.

1035
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: I need an assistant, Eat Drink Smoke.

1036
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: It is your cigar Bourbon FOOTI Extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz.

1037
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: That is Fingers Boy are cigars of the year. That's

1038
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: what we're hitting you with right now. I've already done

1039
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: my three. You got to get the podcast in order

1040
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: to get those. Just look for whatever wherever it is

1041
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. It's Eat Drink, Smoke, and of

1042
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: course Eat Drinks Smoke show dot com. But Finger's by

1043
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: star with his The Rocky Battel thirtieth was his number

1044
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: three cigar Fingers.

1045
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: Billy that brings us to number two.

1046
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: Do you think people rolled their eyes when I said

1047
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: my splurge stick was twenty two dollars? No? Why, I

1048
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it's your influence on me. You're like money, money.

1049
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: Twenty two dollars. I don't think anybody does that.

1050
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that people think that twenty two dollars is

1051
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of money to spend on a cigar,

1052
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: and they're not wrong, absolutely not.

1053
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: But it's weird. This is this Rocky Pattel thirtieth anniversary.

1054
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: You'll see it anywhere from fifteen to twenty two bucks.

1055
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 3: So especially if you can get it for fifteen dollars,

1056
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: you go buy uh, go buy lots of them. Yeah,

1057
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: so it's really enjoyable that hand feel. Box press. I

1058
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: can't believe you didn't have a you didn't have a

1059
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: box press on your.

1060
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: You didn't have a box press on my top three list.

1061
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: But I'm very happy with my top three list. Fingers

1062
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: has Rocky Totel thirtieth. This is number three. What's your

1063
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: number two?

1064
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: Number two? Now, this is a cigar that has been

1065
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: around for a while. Tony and I know that we've

1066
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: had discussions in the past. We have a cigar that's

1067
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 3: been on the list for a while. Well, the rules

1068
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: are to make it on our list, it has to

1069
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: be a cigar that we reviewed in twenty twenty five,

1070
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter. It could be fifteen years old,

1071
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, right, it's if we reviewed it in twenty

1072
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: twenty five. That's what makes it eligible.

1073
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: To absolutely, it has nothing to do with whether it

1074
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: came out that year.

1075
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: Right, So number two on the list had to have

1076
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: a Lanceo on the list to me, hold on, thank you,

1077
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: thank you. The Lafleur Dominicana, Cameroon Cabinet Lanceero. That's a

1078
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: nice cigar, it is, and it's I was, that's really

1079
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: the one I wanted to smoke this week. I'll be

1080
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: honest with you, because I haven't had a Lanceo in

1081
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: a little while. Hard to get your hands on, but

1082
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: it was number two on my list. A Cameroon wrapper,

1083
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: Dominican binder and filler. You get the notes' a little spicy,

1084
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: a little sweet. I got some cashew, some a little

1085
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: bit of chocolate. Just a wonderful experience, you know. And

1086
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: you and I we talk about it all the time.

1087
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: I for one, the first Lanceero I really really got

1088
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: drawn to was the Aladino Cameroon LANCERA.

1089
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful stick.

1090
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: And that's another one that it's the price is right,

1091
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: this one twelve to thirteen dollars a stick if you

1092
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: can find it. And you and I both when we

1093
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: reviewed it, we just absolutely loved the cigar. That's number

1094
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: two on my list. And quite frankly, I'm shocked that

1095
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: you didn't really have a Lancero on.

1096
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just it. It didn't.

1097
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: It didn't hit me that way when I was going

1098
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: through it and going over it. I these are the

1099
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: things that kind of moved me more in it, And

1100
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: it's you know the fact that I have things that

1101
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: I like and styles that I like. The Tola's that

1102
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: I like. Sometimes there are other things that just move

1103
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: you more or you know, for something specific, and for

1104
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: me for my top three this year, that did. But

1105
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: it's a great choice of a land Serro. It's a

1106
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: cigar that's certainly, if I remember right, has been around.

1107
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: But again it's about when we smoked it, what we

1108
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: did in the last year, not necessarily what is new

1109
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: versus what is new to us what we tried this year.

1110
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: So a nice choice.

1111
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: Was it was it.

1112
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: The the Toola you just remembered? Man, I just love

1113
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Lancero so much.

1114
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: Was there something Maybe it's a soft spot with me

1115
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: that it's like, Okay, I when I have a Lancero,

1116
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: it sticks in my head because I really enjoy them.

1117
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: I don't mind. I actually kind of liked the hand

1118
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: feel of Lanceerro. I know some people, you know, they're

1119
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: they think, oh, it's too dainty. You know, if you

1120
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: really want to get into it's a manly cigar. It's

1121
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: not you know, sixty four ring gauge all the way.

1122
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: It's like, well, now this what's great about a lanceerro

1123
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: is the amount of rapper to binder to fill a ratio.

1124
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: You know, you get most of the flavor from the rapper,

1125
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 3: so there's more rapper, you know, compared to the binder

1126
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: and fillers. You get more flavor from the rapper. I

1127
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: just really enjoyed that. You know, it's a cameroon like

1128
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 3: a cameroon's you know. So it's just it's just home

1129
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: run and at twelve thirteen dollars a stick, good value.

1130
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, a great choice for the number two. We'll get

1131
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: to your number one in just a little bit, but

1132
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: we do have some news of the week to get to.

1133
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: I'll handle this one. Oh okay, thank you guys. We

1134
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: didn't talk about it during the break, right.

1135
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: Because you know, they call me all across America Johnny

1136
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 1: good News.

1137
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: So true, that's what they call me, right there. Cable

1138
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: TV networks.

1139
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: Seeing viewership drop in twenty twenty five, some buy as

1140
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: much as seventy eight percent.

1141
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: Now it's weird is in this story.

1142
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: It's from a group called cord Cutter News, and that's

1143
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: where I get all of my cord cutting news.

1144
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: It's a place to be for cord cutters.

1145
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: I was out Saturday night with some friends, and it

1146
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: turns out I know a guy who does in the

1147
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: weirdest thing ever a Fingers molloy impression. You have become

1148
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: so iconic on this radio show and on the podcast,

1149
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: people do impressions of you. They're working on their Michigan twang.

1150
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: They're working on your I'm just an average Joe kind of.

1151
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: They've got all your mannerisms. They're tea heating all across

1152
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: the lands.

1153
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: I have heard te he quite a bit over the years. Yeah,

1154
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: but I hope it's a somewhat flattering impression.

1155
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: It's excellent, Okay, honestly, derbr okay, got the voice, got

1156
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: the inflection. It's it's super niche. I don't know if

1157
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: it gets your girls, but my god, it was.

1158
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty years ago would have gotten you some girls.

1159
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: It's it's excellent, which is weird because he's only thirty five, right,

1160
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: it's excellent.

1161
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: What's weird is that chord cutter's wit. Hold a hell,

1162
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: Hold on a second.

1163
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 3: You were going into a cord cutting story. How did

1164
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: that come up?

1165
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1166
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: You said something and it made me think of oh,

1167
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: because I said, it's where I get all my cord

1168
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: cutting news, which is something you would say and remind

1169
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: me this guy does an impression, all right. It says

1170
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: many cable TV networks, including CNN and ms NOW.

1171
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: Which used to be MSNBC.

1172
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: I call it miss now saw everybody does, saw their

1173
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: viewership drop in twenty twenty five, some by as much

1174
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: as seventy eight percent.

1175
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: This is a punch in the face to liberal news networks, like,

1176
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe they put that in the headline. That's crazy.

1177
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Also, but I'm looking over some of

1178
01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: these networks. The one that they said, oh, up to

1179
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: seventy eight percent, Justice Central. Have you ever heard of

1180
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: Justice Central?

1181
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: Core TV? Don't don't? Well that was the People's Court Bound.

1182
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: That's true. Don't Justice Central? Do you some of these.

1183
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, American Heroes network, and then you see

1184
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: the viewership, It's like, how are they affording to even

1185
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: run a network?

1186
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Justice Central has seventeen thousand average daily viewers.

1187
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: So do I. That's what I'm saying clearly now, it's

1188
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: obvious you need your own network. Tony.

1189
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: First of all, so true, so true. Uh, Fox Business

1190
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,959
Speaker 1: declines twenty percent. Team Nick twenty five percent, Boomerangs down

1191
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: twenty one percent, Animal Planet down twenty eight percent, not

1192
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Geo down twenty percent, ms now down twenty six percent,

1193
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: twenty six percent. That is adult swim down twenty percent.

1194
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: People aren't watching less content, they're watching less content that way.

1195
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you're looking at some of this, and

1196
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: it's you know, the weather channel. Honestly, do you do

1197
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,959
Speaker 3: you tune into the weather channel anymore to get your weather.

1198
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: I tune into the weather channel on my phone. That's

1199
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: where the weather is. The weather channel is on my phone.

1200
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: And that's the whole point. You're scrolling your stream. You

1201
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: all you saw, all your time is spent on the youtubees. Yes,

1202
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: where you should subscribe to eat, drink, smoke on YouTube.

1203
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: You should do that right now.

1204
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: You know there are weather channels on YouTube where you've

1205
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: got weather influencers. Tony what no, no, no, yeah, I'm

1206
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: calling weather influencers influencer.

1207
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: You get all into conspiracy theory or you you're you're

1208
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: really right in.

1209
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: The rails there.

1210
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: We're not talking about seating clouds, ladies and gentlemen. We're

1211
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: talking about weather personalities who were just running with weather

1212
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: influencers because it's fun to name them.

1213
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: That weather influencers. We've lost our minds, Cable, it used

1214
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: to be a thing that's over fingers boys. Number one

1215
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: cigars coming up. So what brings us to number one?

1216
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: Which cigar has Fingers malloy chosen to be his cigar

1217
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: of the year. It's Eat, Drink Smell. I'm Tony Katz.

1218
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: That is America's favorite amateur drinker.

1219
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: Fingers mlile.

1220
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: You've been having coffee while you're having the cigars from

1221
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: a place that sounds like Bunkin' Bonuts.

1222
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: Just like Bunkin' Bonuts exactly. You know.

1223
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 3: It got me thinking when you were doing the whole

1224
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: lead up to the number one cigar, I was going

1225
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: to make a joke about bubblegum cigars, and I was

1226
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: wondering if they still make them. You remember, back in

1227
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: the day they made bubblegums.

1228
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I sure do smoked horribly, right, I was gonna say,

1229
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: a fan favorite of kids for yours was funny smoked horribly.

1230
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: You win?

1231
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: What made you think of bubble gum cigars? You know what? Tony?

1232
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Oh god, I find now that we are into the

1233
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: the first week of twenty twenty six, I'm very reflective

1234
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: in thinking about the past.

1235
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1236
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: Yes, the nineteen seventies. It was a simpler time. Of

1237
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 3: course I wasn't alive back then. I'm much too young,

1238
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: but I read a lot of magazines about it, periodicals,

1239
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: if you will, and it seemed like a simpler time.

1240
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: Saturday Evening Post, Saturday Evening Posts Digest based in Indianapolis,

1241
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 3: TV Guide not based in Indianapolis.

1242
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: Number one cigar for Fingers Maloy, what will it be?

1243
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: He has taken us through the Panople.

1244
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: The number three was the Rocky Ptel thirty year, and

1245
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: the number two was the Lanceero from the Florida Minnicana

1246
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: the camn Cabinet.

1247
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: You gotta be impressed. I remember those things right there.

1248
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: That is impressive. I have my top three.

1249
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: By the way, you gotta get the podcast if you

1250
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: haven't heard my top three yet. Fingers Loy, what is

1251
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,479
Speaker 1: your twenty twenty five even though it's twenty twenty six.

1252
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: Cigar of the year year year year, So this is

1253
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: a value pick, a huge value pick. We both were

1254
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: very impressed with this cigar. Ubble gum, No, not bubble gum.

1255
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 3: I told you they don't smoke.

1256
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: Well, you're right. They are terrible.

1257
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: But you and I reviewed this cigar, and when we

1258
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: talked about the notes, it was, you know, a nice

1259
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: sweet cigar with some a good bit of spice, smooth.

1260
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: There was a little herbal and floral undercurrent.

1261
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: Seven to eight dollars A stick for this one, it

1262
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: was the mcalliff Red top.

1263
01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: Oh, nicely done. Mcaliff has done beautiful work. The Black

1264
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: the Blue really really took cigars by storm. Definitely something

1265
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: that's in the humid or nice in terms of the

1266
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: value pick bra Vis, but it doesn't smoke like a

1267
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: value cigar.

1268
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: Very very good.

1269
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: Smoke rappers, the San Andreas Habano, the binder Nicaraguan grown,

1270
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:26,480
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania broadleaf. Yeah, and then the filler Nicaraguan and Mexican.

1271
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 3: It just we just both enjoyed it, like I said,

1272
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 3: And when we were looking over the list, you had

1273
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: your picks and you're the money Schmney guy.

1274
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: Honey money, he says of me.

1275
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 3: Yes, And I always think, man if I could find

1276
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: something in this economy that gives each drink smoke nation

1277
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 3: good value but also a nice smoking experience, I don't

1278
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 3: think you can go wrong with the mcalf red. I

1279
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: mean seven to eight dollars a stick.

1280
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: That's a great pick. It's a great pick. Good people

1281
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: doing good work. That's a nice list. That's a little

1282
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: bit of all over the place kind of list right there.

1283
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: From Fingers Moloy with the Rocky Ptel thirtieth with the Lanceo,

1284
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: the cameeron Cabinet from La Florida Minicana, and then Mcaliff,

1285
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: the Mcaliff read nice. We smoked good cigars in twenty

1286
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: twenty five them, Yeah.

1287
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: We really did.

1288
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to what twenty twenty six brings. You know,

1289
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: there are some brands that we shied away from this

1290
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: year we're gonna go back to, and I think we're

1291
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna see possibly some more Davidovs in this year.

1292
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: Adabay has come on huge. Gonna be some.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: Plays into what they're doing with the Adabe and the

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01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: Byron and a whole bunch of cigars, And as we've

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: talked about our char flente flooding the zone, there may

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01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: be some more of those to try. But there's always

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: the boutiques, there's always the smaller players, and we're always

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna give them their love because they're doing good work.

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Speaker 3: Is there a brand that we have not reviewed? Off

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: the top of your head that you either had people say, hey,

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: why aren't you reviewing this? Maybe not so much a

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01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: boutique cigar, but one of the bigger players that we

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: haven't really even attempted a review on.

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: So I would argue that there are many more of

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: my fathers that we should probably get in on. There

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01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: might be some other Padrones that we should we we

1307
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: should play with. There is I think we've done one

1308
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: Crux cigar and we can check them out for sure.

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: So just as an example a cigar that we did

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, from meeting them at the

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: at the show and now coming back actually going to

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: be in a local humidore here in Indianapolis, Lampert l

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Speaker 1: A M P E R T.

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Speaker 2: Excellent.

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: Let's see what Cavalier has been up to and get

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: back to them, because I really do enjoy Cavalier cigars.

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: One brand that I've seen that I don't know if

1318
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: we've done much of.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: If we have, it's been a long time's aging room.

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 2: So I have I have in the Humano right now.

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: I have some of the Maduro's, the Cinmatra, I have

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: their small batch, and I have the Nicaragua, which for

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: cigar fis Shionado was number one or number two a

1324
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: few years back. I have it as a torpedo. Excellent

1325
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: cigar excels scar more than happy to throw some aging

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: room into the mix and see and see where that is.

1327
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's I think there's a bunch.

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: And if there are cigars you want us to try,

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: you should tell us what those cigars are, just like

1330
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: when there are steaks I want you to try. You

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: should go to Defiancebeef dot com and place your order.

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: Get a whole cow. You got a whole year ahead

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: of you. You need a cow. You need beef that

1334
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: you actually want to feed your family twenty one day

1335
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: aged right there from the Indiana farm to your table.

1336
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: Go to Defiance Beef defiancebef dot com. Use promo code Eat, drink, smoke,

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Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order.

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Speaker 2: Incredible.

1339
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: I have gone through all my ribbs and all my strips.

1340
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: I've done it. I've gone through them all. We still

1341
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: have ground beef. But I'm getting ready place the next order.

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: You're great placing the next order, and I'm going big.

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going full cow. You want to go

1344
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: in you wanna go in, You wanna go in. I

1345
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: need a chest freezer. First of all, you're gonna need

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01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: a chest freezer. Then then you can go in. I'll

1347
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: go I'm all in. I'm going full cow. Let's go

1348
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: full cout. Okay, let's go full freaking cow. It's gonna

1349
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: be fantastic. I still have a six pound brisket then

1350
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: I need to do I might turn it into a

1351
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: PSTROMI I have been jones in to do that in

1352
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, so that's going to happen. Of course,

1353
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: I have the I have the infrared friar. It's an

1354
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: air fryer. Suck, but it's so great. I have so

1355
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: many more things to do in that. So yeah, it's

1356
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: we did a really good job of bringing food into eat, drink,

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: smoke in twenty twenty five. Much more that much more recipes,

1358
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: and I'm.

1359
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: Serious about the cookbook.

1360
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: We've got so many things that we do privately and

1361
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: so many things that we've done on the show.

1362
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: I think that it's a no brainer.

1363
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: Are we ready yet to discuss There's one thing that

1364
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 3: excites me almost as much as to finance beef at

1365
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: this point, Are we ready to talk about the new website.

1366
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: No, no, we are not ready to talk about the

1367
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: new website, but it's coming, it is, it is coming.

1368
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: What we can talk about is wait, what day is it?

1369
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'll tell you we're gonna be live. I

1370
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: mentioned this what we've got a live at each each

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Speaker 1: drink Smoke to do. Westfield, Indiana. We will be at

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Speaker 1: Big Hafas Barbecue Tuesday, January thirteenth. They're barbecue and Old

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Speaker 1: Forester night. We will be there. Get your tickets at

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Speaker 1: Big Hoffas h O f f a s Big Hoffas

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Speaker 1: dot com. Get your tickets. We will be there Tuesday,

1376
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: January thirteenth, six pm. You'll get Old Forester, you will

1377
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: get a full barbecue buffet, and we are doing the

1378
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: show live that night, Tuesday, January thirteenth.

1379
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, you want to be there.

1380
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,480
Speaker 1: If you're anywhere near Indiana, come on out to Westfield, Indiana,

1381
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: Big Hoppas Barbecue. Of course, Adam Hoffmann Big Hopfas helped

1382
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: us very much with the book Big Let's Go Barbecue,

1383
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: so appreciate him. So we're coming out there and we're

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01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: doing that Big Hopfas Barbecue. That is Tuesday, January thirteenth.

1385
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't want to miss it. It's gonna

1386
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: be unbelievable. I'm not eating until then. No, you shouldn't. Yeah,

1387
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to town brisket. I'm gonna have him

1388
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: do sometimes he'll do for people fried ribs.

1389
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: If you can get him to do the cornbread.

1390
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh we can make them do the cornbread.

1391
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: Oh outstanding. I could do that.

1392
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: So January thirteenth, be there for that, and don't forget

1393
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: to go to Defiance Beef dot Com use promo code

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Speaker 2: Those are our top cigars for the year.

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Speaker 1: We're back next week, new episodes, New things to try,

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,840
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Speaker 2: Then it's Eat Drink Smoke.