1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The NBA find the Jazz a half million and the 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Pacers one hundred grand, saying both teams sat healthy players 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: in recent games, while noting that moves they are moves 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: that compromise the integrity of the game and that will 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: not be tolerated. I'm going to read you from Adam 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Silver quote Overt behavior like this that prioritizes draft position 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: over winning undermines the foundation of NBA competition, and we 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: will respond accordingly to any further actions that compromise the 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: integrity of our games. Additionally, we are working with our 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Competition Committee and Board of Governors to implement further measures 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: to root out this type of conduct. In quote, Now, 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: this goes back to the Pacers game. In terms of 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: in Utah is a whole different story, you know, in 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: terms of players that they rested in games. But for 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the Pacers, this goes back to their game. Coincidentally enough, 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: against Utah on February third, a league investigation found that 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Pascal Siakim and two other Pacers starters set out the 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: game quote they could have played under the medical standard 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: in the policy, including by playing reduced minutes. Alternatively, the 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: team could have held the players out of other games 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: in a way that would have better promoted compliance with 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the policy. 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: End quote. Now what we know is this. 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: What we know is that now in the NBA, if 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you would like a chance at the number one overall pick, 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: or to stay within the top four picks of the draft, 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: you basically need to be one of the six suckiest 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: teams in the league. You have to have one of 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: the six worst records to give yourself the best chance there. 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: And we also know even though Caleb Wilson now of 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: North Carolina has a fractured hand, does that mean that 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: he returns for another year of college. 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: That would seem unlikely. 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: But we know that at the top of this year's draft, 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: as we have talked about exhaustively, are a number of 36 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: generational changing talents, players that can change the trajectory of 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: your franchise. And in the case of Indiana, it feels 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: more like San Antonio. What I mean by that is 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: when San Antonio had Tim Duncan, they got Tim Duncan 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: because they had gone a year without David Robinson, who 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: had been hurt, and they were not necessarily authentically one 42 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league, but they changed 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: things that year, got into the draft lottery, and then 44 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan. The same can be said for when they 45 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: landed the pick that resulted them in Victor Woodman Mayama. 46 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: But let's get to the core of this discussion. Let's 47 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: get to the reality here. 48 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be polarizing, Pete. I'm not trying 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: to be argumentative Allen. Okay, I'm being realistic Rick, And 51 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the way this really is. 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm interpretive. Ivan. Okay. 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: We can read that quote from the NBA regarding the 54 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. A lot of fancy words in there, a 55 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of really creative and you know, things like the 56 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: word overt overt. Behavior like this that prioritizize, prioritizes draft 57 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: position overwinning, undermines the foundation of NBA competition. Let me 58 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: read for you what that really means. You know, we 59 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: should probably run this through the elixir. Eddie, Oh, did 60 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you renew the subscription? You know what, I've got to 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: look actually and see if I renewed the subscription to 62 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: the Elixir, but I'm pretty sure that I did. Okay, 63 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: And for those that are unfamiliar, what we do with 64 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: the elixir is this is where we have a computer 65 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: system that we purchased and in the and by the way, 66 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: it looks like, hang on, I'm not certain that I 67 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: did pay Yeah, it looks like I do have it. 68 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the elixir. 69 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: The way we do this is we put in we 70 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: read a quote from a sports figure. Yeah, then we 71 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: run it through the elixir, and the elixir then has 72 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the ability to tell us what is really being said. 73 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: It's like a decoder QR speaking in code. Right, thank 74 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: you for doing that. That's exactly correct. Now the QR right. 75 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: Have you seen the speculation Jake on the on who's 76 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: driving this complaining between the Pacers and the Utah Jazz 77 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: tank off here? 78 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I could probably guess, but go ahead and enlighten me. 79 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: The Oklahoma City Thunder. 80 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: What would be the thunders beef in this well. 81 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: The Utah Jazz have to keep their pick within the 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: top eight, I believe, is what it is to. 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: Retain their pick. 84 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: If it falls outside the top eight, that pick goes 85 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: to Oklahoma City. 86 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Say that again. 87 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: The Utah Jazz have a protection on their first round 88 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: pick for the twenty twenty six NBA Draft that if 89 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: it falls within the first eight picks, Utah will keep 90 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six pick. If it is picked nine 91 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: through thirty, it will be sent to Oklahoma City. So 92 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: there's speculation that Oklahoma City a team, by the way, 93 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: that was blatantly tanking for years. 94 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Correct. 95 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: Is they complaining about somebody else think doing the exact 96 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: same thing they did? 97 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay? 98 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Now, do you believe that there is a team that 99 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: blew a whistle here? Or do you believe that the 100 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: league is having to just kind of make an appearance 101 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: or presentation. 102 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: If you will, of what is you know they want people. 103 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Do you think the league is doing this to honor 104 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: and uphold the request of a franchise or to honor 105 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: and uphold a to use your term, code of what 106 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: they want fans to think of the way that they 107 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: do things. 108 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: You know, that's the. 109 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm looking at the elixir here and 110 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: there's a warranty issue. Uh oh uh oh, But I 111 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: think we may have this correct. 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm still checking here. 113 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: We do have some minor news Jake Indy car the 114 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: final seat for the Paddock this year is filled. Raman 115 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: Grojean will be racing for Dale Coy this year. And 116 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: then in college basketball news, this is from Jeff Borzello 117 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: of ESPN. Former Princeton star Caden Pierce, the twenty twenty 118 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: three to twenty twenty four IVY League player, the player 119 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: of the Year. He is transferring to Purdue. Now you 120 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: may be asking, Eddie, why are you bringing up a 121 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: guy from Princeton. Look at the last name. His last 122 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: name is Pierce. That is Alec Pierce's brother. He is 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: now going to be playing for the Purdue boy The. 124 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: Makers they he had another brother that played where. 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Didn't he have a Didn't Alec Pierce have another brother 126 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: that played college basketball somewhere? Maybe that's the one we're 127 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: thinking of. But if he's transferring to Purdue, Eddie, do 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: you happen to have the tenfoil hat theory music? 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Please? 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: As we enter into the free agency period of the 131 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: National Football League, can we read into Alec Pierce's plans 132 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: based on the fact that his brother is transferring to 133 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: play college basketball closer to Indiana and in Indiana closer 134 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. 135 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Do we read into that? 136 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: See all kinds of things of uncertainty and cloudiness today. 137 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: But let's get to the Pacer statement, okay, and run 138 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: it through the elixir. Now I'm going to read to you, Eddie. 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Do we happen to have the elixir a ready? And 140 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: this is dangerous? Here when when I pushed the button 141 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: over here that it's actually going to work if you 142 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: have the ability to run my computer. Yeah, this is 143 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: how the elixir works. I read the quote. We run 144 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: it through the elixir. It then tells us when it 145 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: has translated it into what the person is really trying 146 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: to say. Okay, according to the Elixir again, the quote 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: from Adam Silver as to why the Indiana Pacers have 148 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: been fined one hundred thousand dollars quote. Overt behavior like 149 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: this that prioritizes draft position over winning undermines the foundations 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: of NBA competent, and we will respond accordingly to any 151 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: further actions that compromise the integrity of our games. What 152 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: does that really mean the elixir? 153 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: Please? Okay, so here we go. We'll see what it says. 154 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: Who are we kidding? Have you seen our sponsors? We 155 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: all know what integrity we are upholding. More later on 156 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: the Draft Kings. Update on the FanDuel networks. 157 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, interesting, what do you think the elixir means? 158 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: By that? 159 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: I knew? 160 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: What do you think the Elix me. Let's read the Elixir. 161 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's make sure that we did this correctly. Eddie, if 162 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: you please could go ahead, and when we're talking about 163 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: overt things happening in the NBA and the upholding the 164 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: integrity of the game, run that through the Elixir on again. 165 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: What that means. Okay, we'll try this one more time. 166 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: Who are we kidding? Have you seen our sponsors slow 167 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: to down? We all know what integrity we are upholding. 168 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: More later on the Draft Kings update on the fan 169 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: dual Networks. 170 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Seems as though the Elixir got a little bit frustrated 171 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: and wanted to make sure that we slowed things down 172 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: to better understand. I guess the NBA wants to make 173 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: certain and make sure, as do all sports properties. And 174 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I understand it. I totally get this, but just come 175 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: out and say what it is. This is not the 176 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: NBA upholding the integrity of the game because they worry 177 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: that ticket buyers are going to be upset because their 178 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: favorite stars aren't playing. Load management and players resting and 179 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: all that comes with that is a discussion that's been 180 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: had since the beginning of time, for years, and yes, we. 181 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Can sit here and say back in my day. I 182 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: watched Bill Ross, We'll play. 183 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: I understand it, and back then those teams were flying 184 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: commercial on Eastern airlines squeezed in. I get all of it, 185 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: but you also did not have at that time. Look 186 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: at the Indiana Pacers right now. Do you think there's 187 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: any coincidence? Are there some strange injuries as we've talked about, 188 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries, sore hamstrings, an achilles strain that are 189 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: being suddenly mentioned that we'd never heard from before because 190 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Indiana is doing what they can to make sure that 191 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: they are losing games to keep their hat in the 192 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: ring for one of the top four picks. 193 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: Probably, But guess what. They're also five hundred in their 195 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: last eighteen games. If the Pacers are intentionally trying to 196 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: throw games, they suck at it. They went and tried 197 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: to throw two games in New York and won both 198 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: of them. They can't even tank properly. That's how good 199 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: they are, I guess. But are they overtly trying to 200 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: be less competitive? 201 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 202 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Probably? And should that bother the NBA? I don't know. 203 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Did it bother the NBA when everyone under the sun 204 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: knew that they overtly made sure that the college basketball 205 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Player of the Year Patrick Ewing went to New York 206 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: and not Indianapolis. Did that bother anybody? Did it bother anybody? 207 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: When you very clearly to your point, Eddie, in the 208 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: past had Oklahoma City that had more first round picks 209 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: compiled and stockpiled in order to go out and get 210 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: themselves great players and build a roster that now are 211 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: the NBA champions. 212 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: Did that bother anybody? 213 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: Or was it seen as really smart and a great 214 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: sacrifice on behalf of Oklahoma City? For years players have 215 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: now been load managing. And the reason why is simple. 216 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: You look at the Pacers this year and the legitimate 217 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: injuries they've had. Obi Toppin obviously Haliburton happened going into 218 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: the season. Some of the nagging injuries, the you know, TJ. 219 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: McConnell and some of the hamstring tightness. Is that embellished maybe, 220 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: but they did. That was early on Aaron Nesmith and 221 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: some of the nagging things that he had. How much 222 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: of this, Johnny Furfey, Could it be that this is 223 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: because of wear and tear? Because for the first time 224 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: in their existence, at least since two thousand, the Indiana 225 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: Pacers were playing games well into and past June first, 226 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: and there was basically no offseason. And say what you want, 227 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: and I understand that it's disappointment city for the kids 228 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of Carmel Pupps that all wear their finest Steph Curry 229 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: jersey that they bought at the Dick Sporting Goods of 230 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Westfield to go down and support their beloved Golden State Warriors. 231 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: And then guess what, gasp, Curry's not playing because it's 232 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: a back to back and they were in Chicago the 233 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: night before, Milwaukee, the night before, Cleveland the night before, 234 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: And you say, I can't believe Steph Curry's not out 235 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: there on the floor. I paid my hard earned money 236 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: for these tickets. Understood. But Golden State also was going 237 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: through a period where because they were winning titles and 238 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: they were playing deep into January and the number of 239 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: games they were playing, and then you add into that 240 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: the Olympics and other such things, and Steph Curry like 241 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: anybody else, it's like, you know what, we got to 242 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: pick and choose where you can get a nap. Haven't 243 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: you all looked at a weekend schedule and you're like, man, 244 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: I had the most grueling week of work, but I 245 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: cannot wait until Saturday because I got nowhere to be 246 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: between two and six, and I'm gonna lay on the 247 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: couch and veg. I'm not saying when you were an 248 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: elite level athlete with chefs in top flight, you know airline, 249 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: private charters and the best hotels. I'm not saying that 250 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't get a little bit redundant when that happens. 251 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: But I also understand that the physical demands of players 252 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: today are different than what they were twenty twenty five 253 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: years ago. It just is it's a different era than 254 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: when Michael Jordan played. Lebron couldn't have played in Jordan's 255 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: era because he didn't have to go down the middle 256 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: and have Oakley and Mace trying to knock him on 257 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: his teaster. He's bigger than Oakley and Mace. It's a 258 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: different era, it's a different athlete. But nonetheless, I'm not 259 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: saying that to excuse resting players in any way. I'm 260 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: saying it to explain it. The reality is this, the NBA, 261 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, almost every sport now their number one priority 262 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: deep down is to generate and continue invested fan interest. 263 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Why is fantasy football? 264 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Why did it become such a coup for the NFL 265 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: because and what is the reason that people love fantasy football? 266 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Do you play fantasy football? I do play fantasy footall. 267 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I like fantasy football. Why do you like it? Well, 268 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: the main reason is because on a Thursday night game 269 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: between the Carolina Panthers and the Arizona Cardinals that for 270 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the first eighty eight percent of my life I didn't 271 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: care about. Now I have a reason to watch. Why 272 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: do you have a reason to watch? Because I have 273 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: Bryce Young on my fantasy team. Okay, I have the 274 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: tight end for Arizona on my fantasy team. Had to 275 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: him because I have Tyler Warren, but he's hurt this 276 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: week or he's on by so I had to start. 277 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: I had to pick up the guy from Arizona. I 278 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: want to see what he does. So I'm watching the game. 279 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: What is the other thing that draws in fans and 280 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: eyeballs about professional sports and college sports in twenty twenty six, 281 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Go to any sporting event, go to any sports bar, 282 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: go to any fraternity party, and watch people while games 283 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: are going on. They are on their phone like they're 284 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: playing Tetris and like they're trying to type out war 285 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: in peace in under two hours, and they're audit on 286 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the gambling apps, and they're taking parlays, and they're taking 287 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: over unders, and they're taking money lines. And that is 288 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: the beauty in this country of a free enterprise society. 289 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Are there people that that's bad news for because they 290 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: have an addiction to it and it's dangerous, and yes, 291 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: of course, and do we hope that those people are 292 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: able to get that under control. 293 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. 294 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: But you also can go to a game and buy 295 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: beer and they don't ban that because some people have 296 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: difficulty with that. Those are things as an adult that 297 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: you have the free will to monitor in police about yourself. 298 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: So it's not my place anymore to sit here and 299 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: tell people we should or shouldn't have this or that, 300 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: because it's a danger to people. People are aware of 301 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: the danger. The reality is that gambling and gambling on sports, 302 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: especially now that it is legalized and easily accessible, is 303 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: a win for pro sports leagues because it creates an 304 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: interest and an invested interest, both emotionally and financially for 305 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: people that would otherwise not have interest in the game. 306 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: And Adam Silver and the National Basketball Association with franchises 307 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: like the Indiana Pacers, the Utah Jazz, the New Orleans Pelicans, 308 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings. 309 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: The Pacers. 310 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Are an it franchise a little bit because Tyrese Halliburton 311 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: is magnetic and he's transcendent and he's exciting. And the 312 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: way that they won games and continue to win games 313 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: in the postseason last year captivated people. I was in 314 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame wearing an Indiana Pacer T 315 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: shirt two months after the finals, and the Baseball Hall 316 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: of Fame in Cooperstown, New York, and probably ten different 317 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: people stopped me and they're like, yes, sirs, Pacers, let's go, Oh, 318 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: you're a Pacer fan. 319 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 320 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: Where are you from? I'm from Kareny, Nebraska. Then why 321 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: are you a Pacer fan? 322 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: Man? 323 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: How could you not fall over that team? They were 324 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: fun to watch? So the Pacers did hit the map 325 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: there and they had people interested in engaged. But there's 326 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: no Haliburton this year. And yet the NBA, it's in 327 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: their best interest to make sure that people are watching 328 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: and paying attention. And what is the vehicle? What is 329 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: the gateway? What is the carrot on the stick that 330 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: keeps people chasing? And the NBA knows keeps them interested. 331 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: It's making sure that when they are putting money on 332 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: a money line, when they're putting something on an over under, 333 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: when they're taking a teaser, that they are doing it 334 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: fair and square. And the NBA is wanting to make 335 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: sure that it's supporters, and by that I mean to 336 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: a great extent, those that are patronizing their chief sponsors. 337 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: They want to make sure that people are continuing to 338 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: do that so that they continue to watch and continue 339 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: to buy in and pay attention. Because if you go 340 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: back to the days where the only day or the 341 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: ownly way to even know about gambling purposes is to 342 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: buy some sort of a parlay card from your delivery 343 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: guy that then goes take them and takes them and 344 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: turns them in through the back door at some bar somewhere. 345 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: And look on the back page nine of the Agabureau 346 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: back when the sports pages were paged nine pages long. 347 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: If you want to go back to that way, that's fine, 348 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: but you are in bed now and you're in trench now. 349 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: With basically saying, speaking of avert, the NBA now has 350 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: overtly let you know that they want you to place 351 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: wagers on their competition, and so Therefore, it's in their 352 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: best interest to make sure that you know that every 353 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: time you place a wager on said competition, it is 354 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: overtly fair from the get go, and that's why they 355 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: have to put forth the perception and the image that 356 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: they're do they know that everybody's going sixty two and 357 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: a fifty five. Yes, but every once in a while, 358 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: you got to pull over the two small four cylinder 359 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: cars that are putting along doing fifty seven out fifty 360 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: five to say. 361 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: See, we're enforcing the speed limit in your neighborhood. It's 362 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 2: all safe. 363 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: Everybody, go back to what you were doing and know 364 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: that we got it all under control. And that's where 365 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: we are joining us now on the guest line, it 366 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: is the Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest Line again. 367 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: If you download the Java House app Jake twenty five, 368 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: you can pre order your beverage for any of the 369 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: Java House locations the cafe locations. You get twenty five 370 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: percent off your drink by ordering and using the app 371 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: at Jake twenty five. Kevin Bowen from the Morning Show, 372 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: The Fan Morning Show joining us. Kevin, we are getting 373 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: to the period of time where if the cults are 374 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: going to utilize the franchise tag they have essentially and 375 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, or clarify it for me. 376 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: Is it the deadline in which they can use the 377 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: tag or the time the date opens up where they 378 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: can use the tag that's coming up? 379 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 5: So the date opens Tuesday, and it's a two week window, 380 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: so that obviously extends through the combine. If I remember correctly, 381 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 5: the Michael Pittman tag was very late. 382 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: In the window. 383 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: You know, deadline spur action, I feel like is the 384 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 5: phrase you hear quite often. So yeah, it's a two 385 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 5: week window which ends then I want to say, like 386 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 5: a handful of days before free agency starts. And again 387 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: I think the Pittman year, I think they tagged him 388 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: and were able to get the extension done then in 389 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 5: those handful of days before free agency actually started, so 390 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: he never technically, you know, would have hit the open market. 391 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: You have until like July. I think it is to 392 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: get in a extension done with that player. But yeah, 393 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 5: two week windows starting touso. 394 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Kevin, can you change a dumb question here. 395 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: Let's say the Colts decide that they want to franchise 396 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: tag Alec Pierce, and four days later, Alec Pierce comes 397 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: to some sort of a contract agreement. Can they then 398 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: remove the tag and use it on someone else within 399 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: that window? 400 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 5: I would guess, you know, I assume we get one 401 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: use of it. I mean I would. It's kind of 402 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 5: weird because the Pittman thing has always thrown me off 403 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: because you know, you you tagged him and then whatever, 404 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 5: like five days later, you got an extension done with him, 405 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: Like were you really that far off? You know, like 406 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: that right all of a sudden, But you know, I 407 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 5: get it. It's it's really no you know, knock on 408 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: the team to use it if you plan on extending 409 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: that guy anyway. So yeah, I don't believe it. And 410 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: I mean you know this full well. They as you 411 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: the franchise tag a little bit in Napollion era. You know, 412 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: before Pittman. They hadn't used it since Pat McAfee in 413 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, and he was frankly hi rate that Ryan 414 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 5: Grigson tagged him back in twenty thirteen. So they, you know, 415 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 5: the franchise tag has not been of use to the 416 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 5: Colts really at all. But I have a feeling it 417 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 5: could be for Alex Pierce here coming up in a 418 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: couple of. 419 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Weeks, so you believe, and I mean I tend to 420 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: agree with you here, but is there any chance, Kevin, 421 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: would they weigh this out? 422 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: Okay? 423 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Could it be that they look at the franchise tag 424 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we feel confident enough that 425 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: we will be able, especially now, if you really want 426 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: to read into it. Alec Pierce, you know, his brother 427 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: transferring to Purdue, does that mean that he wants to 428 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: stay near the in the Midwest, et cetera. 429 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm grasping at tea leaves there. 430 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: But if they feel that Alec Pierce is close for them, 431 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: could they hold it just in case they were to 432 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: need it for Daniel Jones, even though we obviously have 433 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: talked about what that would mean financially if they were 434 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: to put it on Daniel Jones. 435 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you obviously could. Again, as you just 436 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: laid out there, I don't think a forty six million 437 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: dollar contract for a guy coming off with torn achilles 438 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 5: in less than ten months is the best use of 439 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 5: your finances. So yeah, I would say no on that. 440 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean that's the other one of whatever. 441 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: If for some reason you feel very good about Alex 442 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: Pearson getting a long term deal done, which I am 443 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: a little hesitant to commit to that. I think there's 444 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: a better chance they can get something done long term 445 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: with Daniel Jones, So that know sounds weird, you know, quarterback, 446 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: you would tend to think that's the one you need to, 447 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: you know, maybe tag because you don't feel as confident 448 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: if they hit the open market. But those are really 449 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: the two, you know, Brandon spid and Across. I can't 450 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: really see any of that. So my best guessing here 451 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: is as the calendar gets closer to March, they tag 452 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: Pierce trying to get something done with the long term, 453 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 5: and they give Daniel Jones some two or three year deal, 454 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 5: and then we'll see how free agency plays out after that. 455 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Kevin, are you getting Did you buy 456 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: season tickets from Florida State Golf? 457 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: No? 458 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: But do you want to talk about this for a 459 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: few minutes? 460 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: Sure, partially because I was listening to the show and 461 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: I felt bad because you seem to be the only 462 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: one excited about it. 463 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's bad enough that you know, 464 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 5: Jeff and James weren't getting entertained, and then when Mark 465 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: Dyton went with a snoring sounder, I know you were 466 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: probably giggling in your car somewhere when he went there 467 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: when I was talking about Florida State golf. So Charlie 468 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 5: Woods committed to Florida State for twenty twenty seven. Now 469 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: he's a top twenty five ranked high school golfer in 470 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 5: his specific high school class, he's about ninth or tenth. 471 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: This is the son of Tiger Woods. 472 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: Of course, yes, thank you for clarifying there. Now they 473 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 5: have Miles Russell committed, so you know, this would be 474 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: a little bit like whatever Greg Oden has committed to 475 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: Isleo State, and you know, Steve Alford's son is the Night, 476 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 5: and I don't know, comparing Steve Alford and Tiger Woods 477 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 5: is probably Ludacris catch my drift. Steve Alford's son then 478 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 5: would also commit to Ohio State and again not go 479 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: to you you know, Tiger's daughter Sam, she goes to Stanford, 480 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 5: but Charlie has elected to stay in state. I don't 481 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: know if in state tuition, you know, is maybe a 482 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: play here, but I would compare. I would compare. You 483 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 5: you love comparing you know, the college programs, sports programs 484 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 5: to you know, whatever NFL franchises. I would compare Florida 485 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: State golf to Penn State football. 486 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah by that, so does that mean so you mean 487 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: by that historically great program that of late has you know, 488 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: of course Penn State was playing you know, in the 489 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: conference playoff or the playoffs, the championship playoffs a year ago. 490 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: So it's not like, but has Florida State had any 491 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: from a golf standpoint, had any sort of bump in 492 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the road that this is thought is a big coup 493 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: for them. 494 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I should give them a little bit more 495 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: compliment that I was kind of going off since day 496 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: last year. To your point, you'll get into the final four. 497 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 5: Florida State has gotten there. They were the runner up, 498 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 5: I want to say a few years back. You know, 499 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 5: Brooks Koepka is a Florida State alumpol asinger to get 500 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: it more in your wheelhouse at Florida State alum there. 501 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: So again they are a nice program. But yes, Charlie 502 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: Wood's a junior not going to Stanford and he's not 503 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: even the best kid in his own recruiting class. Okaybe 504 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: Miles Russell, and Miles Russell has had a bout of 505 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 5: a good of a junior career as Tiger Woods. So 506 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 5: this is a very halted recruit going to Florida State. 507 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: So is Tiger Wood's son the same level recruit with 508 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: the same opportunity? If his name you said, it's what 509 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Charlie Woods? Is that right, correct? So if his name 510 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: is Charlie Bowen, is he getting the same opportunity? Is 511 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: he the same level of recruit or do we fall 512 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 1: in love with the genetics of what we expect it 513 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: will be. 514 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think there is an element of that. 515 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 5: It's rather inevitable, and obviously there's some cachet that come 516 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: with a Woods playing for your golf program. I'd assume 517 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: the nil budget is you know, robust, but I would add, 518 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 5: you know, if you look at it side by side, 519 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: you know, Charlie Wood's his swing looks very reminiscent of 520 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 5: his dad. He is growing as well, So yeah, I 521 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 5: think there's a little bit of that. But you know, 522 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 5: arch Manning, I guess, was a pretty highly ranked high 523 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 5: school recruit. I feel like Lebron's kid was Brownie that 524 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 5: highly ranked coming out. 525 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he was not at all. 526 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: I think that was part of the critique of Bronnie, 527 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: right and. 528 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: The kid of Arizona's red shirting Bryce James Lebron. I 529 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: don't know if people realize this. Lebron has another son 530 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: on Arizona's team, number one in America, and he doesn't play. 531 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: He's red shirting this year. So yeah, I mean I 532 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 5: think he's a you know, golf for the most part. 533 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: I can't believe we're talking about this, but golf for 534 00:30:50,080 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: the most part, you know, show thank you Eddie as. 535 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: I rev all right, all right, as you are, keV. 536 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a nice rem sleep here on this afternoon. 537 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: Jake brought it up to be fair, I would say this. 538 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 5: You know, golf, for the most part, you can just 539 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 5: kind of look at results. You know, it's it's a 540 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: bit of a meritocracy. I mean, you know, okay, where's 541 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 5: the kids finishing at all these events and let's add 542 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 5: them up. So yeah, I think when you can look 543 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: at that, I think Charlie Woods is deserving of an 544 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 5: acc golf school to be offering him. 545 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: Correct, did you get Kevin? 546 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: You played on a state championship golf team for Cathedral, right, 547 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, in my apologies here, I know 548 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: how it works in tennis that you have like a 549 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: number one, two and three singles and then doubles, that 550 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Was there a rank that you had 551 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: on that Cathedral team? Like, were you the lead golfer? 552 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, how does that work? Exactly? 553 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, so in high school golf, you play five and 554 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 5: you count the top four. I was the fifth man 555 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: for yes, the Cato team, and thankfully had very good teammates. Yeah. 556 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: Our number one went to IU he won state individually, 557 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: Corsidona shoutout. Number two went to Purdue and number three 558 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: walked on to Oklahoma State. And Oklahoma State is like 559 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: the whatever the duke? You know, men's well when it 560 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 5: comes to men's golf, air chatausy. Jason Stewart, my fellow 561 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 5: senior on that team, he was exceptional as well. 562 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: So were you recruited? No? Okay? 563 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of the NBA slapping the pacers 564 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: on the wrist and saying control chair, Uh, control chair 565 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: time for you guys, because you got to play your 566 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: best players. 567 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: I think it's selective punishment. I think it's I think 568 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 5: the league has created this beds where the incentive is losing. 569 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: So be careful what you're gonna you know, to me, 570 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: I've made the analogies like walking into the tailgate fields 571 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: at IU and just picking out one kid as the 572 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: underage drinker. It's like, well, you probably could grab a 573 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: few more there, i e. The Wizards, i e. The Kings, 574 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: some others here. I find it odd that, like Pascal 575 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 5: Siakima is the victim at all this. I mean, we're 576 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 5: talking about a thirty one year old dude. He's played 577 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 5: some of the most minutes of anybody in the NBA 578 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: this year. He's played fifty one to fifty five games, 579 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: and he's sitting the second night of a back to back. 580 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like he's sitting in a random 581 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: Wednesday game. I mean when you look at Sakima's really 582 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: rested only on those second nights of back to back. 583 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 5: So it's just I mean, I get where the league 584 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: is coming from to a degree, but I just don't 585 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 5: understand why why now, Why other team? Why not other teams? 586 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 5: I'm a little confused by the rationale again of like, oh, 587 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: they could have picked you know, other times for them 588 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 5: to rest. It just just so much gray area. There's 589 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: just little black and white to any of this. Do 590 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 5: they have a tanking problem? Clearly they do. But again 591 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 5: I would argue they have created a lot of it 592 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 5: on their own doing, and if they really want to 593 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 5: take steps to punish it, a you probably need to 594 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 5: change the lottery rules and be the fine are only 595 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: going to go so far. I mean, if you really 596 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 5: want these teams to play their guys, which again good luck, 597 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 5: you're gonna take away ping pong balls, You're gonna have 598 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 5: to take teams and say, hey, we're not finding you 599 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: one hundred thousand, We're gonna put you at the back 600 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 5: of the lottery Kellen. 601 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: To me, it feels like what this is is the league. 602 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: First off, if Oklahoma City is the one that is, 603 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, banging this drum because it can impact picks 604 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: that they would have based on trades in the past 605 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: or whatever else, which is interesting because Oklahoma City, you know, 606 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: they have sat players in the past. They were sitting 607 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: on a number of lottery picks for a long time. 608 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: But having said that, to me, this comes down to 609 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: simply this, and that is that as more and more 610 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: teams are I want to start resting players and or 611 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: if you want to call it tanking, whatever you want 612 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: to call it, the league has to make the appearance 613 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: to its customer base that they're wagers on any of 614 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: the sports gambling apps that are now official business partners 615 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: of the NBA are as legitimate and they can feel 616 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: as confident and as secure as possible that the games 617 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: that they are wagering on, they are making legitimate wagers 618 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: with a company or a business that is partnered with 619 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: the NBA, and the integrity of that wager, ironic as 620 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: that may sound, is important to the NBA because you 621 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: now have financial investment on both sides. 622 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 623 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a Yeah, I think there's a 624 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 5: lot of validity in that statement. I do think, you know, 625 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 5: we didn't necessarily have this debate last year when you know, 626 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: gambling was still prevalent. So there is something to say 627 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 5: about this year's draft class. And like, you have so 628 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 5: many teams whatever outwardly tanking here and sure the gambling 629 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 5: element and I don't know, do you then only create overs? 630 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: You can't bet unders? You know, if you want to 631 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: get technical into the gambling terms, Hey, here's the lowry 632 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 5: marketins twenty one and a half point over under for 633 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 5: the night. You can only bet the over. So, therefore, 634 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 5: if you were to exit and aka the jazz or 635 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 5: to tank. Then you don't benefit from that, you don't 636 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: reward from that. I don't know if that's an avenue 637 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 5: you can pursue, but you know, I'm curious what Silver 638 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: says I at the All Star break here. I assume 639 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 5: you'll have some sort of state of the Union. I 640 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: just I don't have an easy tank answer. 641 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: You know. 642 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: I listen to some of them and hear that, hey, 643 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 5: starting on March first, your wins count positively towards the 644 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 5: lottery standings. I've heard some people say there should be 645 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: a win total you have to achieve to keep your pick. 646 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: Like the Kings, for example, have won twelve games this year. 647 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 5: Some people say you got to win at least twenty 648 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: five in order to keep your pick. That is juicy. 649 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 5: I've also heard of the whole wheel method. I don't 650 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 5: know if you've read into any of this, but some 651 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 5: people think it should be a thirty year wheel where 652 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 5: you literally know when you're going to have the number 653 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 5: one overall pick and it and it just obviously one 654 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: year you're going to have it. The next year you 655 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 5: might have thirty, and the next year whatever, you might 656 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 5: have two, and you might have twenty nine. Certainly that 657 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 5: could mean that the thunder or whoever the pistons of 658 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 5: the Celtics gets the number one tick next year, but 659 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 5: that's part of the randomness to it. I don't know. Again, 660 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 5: once team start to miss the playoffs, I think in 661 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: general they just want to sit guys because they don't 662 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 5: want to suffer, you know, Johnny Furfrey type injuries. So 663 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 5: there's so much gray area in the NBA ruling. I 664 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 5: also sit here without great black and white answers to 665 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 5: correcting it. 666 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen my guest, of course, he is on the 667 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest line. Kevin, you here 668 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: in the morning with of course Jeff Rickert as well 669 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: as James Boyd on the Fan Morning show. Kevin, before 670 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: we let you go, I just saw we got an email. 671 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen it yet. We got 672 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: to include our head shot for the combine, right, So 673 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: we're doing the combine even though the Colts don't have 674 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: a first round pick. I don't know how many days 675 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: you guys on the morning show will be out at 676 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: the combine. But it is still of interest from a 677 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: local standpoint, not just because it's the NFL, but Fernanda 678 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: Mendoza the presumptive number one pick. Two questions on that 679 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: real quick, the first being do you believe that Mendoza 680 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: is the presumptive number one pick simply because he is 681 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, the season that he had and the skill 682 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: set that he has shown, or is part of that 683 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: because it is a year that is weeded itself out 684 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: with quarterback options. 685 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 5: Well, I must say, no need to reply to the 686 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 5: email I did send in the headshot of you getting 687 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 5: cuffed on the way out. 688 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: Of that was absurd. 689 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 5: A few years back, if I remember correctly, about six 690 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 5: fifty nine in the morning, I hear a faint Do 691 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 5: you know who I am? 692 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: I did not say that. 693 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: I did not, but I did say they wouldn't let 694 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: me in because I forgot my credential on the last day, 695 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: after we'd been there for five straight days. And I said, 696 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: that's my table right there. You can see my backpack, 697 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: and here is a video that I shot yesterday from 698 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: me broadcasting from that table. And you can call the 699 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: cults right now and they'll verify that I were. And 700 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: they said, this isn't an fl issue, not the Indianapolis culture. 701 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: You'll have to go home and get it. 702 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: I was living. Yeah, what's your mom My? Mom was 703 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 2: working to day. 704 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 5: Have you heard my lap two hundred call of L 705 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 5: e O passing blah blah blah. Yeah, I could hear 706 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 5: you out there yelling that, yes, Horsemandza, I mean, yes, 707 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: it's obviously a week quarterback class. I'm sure you guys 708 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 5: have talked about the Trinidad Chambliss news today. I mean 709 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: that that might weaken it even further. 710 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: They found a judge from Mississippi to go ahead and 711 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: give him a sixth year. 712 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, you know, Yeah, you can make all the 713 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 5: jokes about the local representatives of Mendoza or Braden Smith. 714 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 5: We're going through that next year. But yeah, I mean again, 715 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 5: it is a week quarterback class. But I mean even 716 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 5: when you have the Dante more like rumor or debate there, 717 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 5: I still think Mendoza, for the most part, you know, 718 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 5: was largely ahead of that. I mean, I'm super fascinated 719 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 5: to see how he looks at the NFL level. You know. 720 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 5: Part of it is because I mean we don't really 721 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 5: saw him play big time, big time college football for 722 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 5: one year. It's just and this is probably gonna be 723 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 5: part for the course for a lot. 724 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen or read any rumblings at all of 725 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: where there is the possibility that he could not go 726 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: number one. 727 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: And that the Raiders could go elsewhere? 728 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, are there other you know, there are years 729 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: Kevin where where somebody it's like, oh man, they got 730 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: to go quarterback there. And then it's like, I don't know, 731 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: though there's a generational defensive tackle or corner or safety 732 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. Are there other players that 733 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: Vegas could perhaps be passing on to take him number one? 734 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? No, And from what I've heard, I don't think 735 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 5: there's that. I think the only defensive talent that could 736 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 5: do that would be a pass rusher, and I don't 737 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 5: think there's any sort of pass rusher in this class. 738 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, Jeremy I love plays running back, 739 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 5: so you know there's only so much you can do 740 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 5: with that. So yeah, I mean I think he's I 741 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 5: believe Mark Davis had a quote at the Super Bowl 742 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: about that, you know, just about him and and you know, 743 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 5: being the number one overall pick, so you know, no 744 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 5: to that. And again, I think he walks into a 745 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 5: halfway decent situation. He's got an offensive minded head coach, 746 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 5: and he's got Ashton gen Z and Rock Bauer, so 747 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: you know, certainly we'll see what the O line looks like. 748 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 5: And you know, he definitely plays in a tough division 749 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 5: in the AFC West. And you know, I don't know 750 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 5: if Clint Kubiak, the new head coach, is any sort 751 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 5: of relationship or knows him at all. I say that 752 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 5: because he was at San Francisco when Mendoza played at 753 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 5: cal So I don't know if there's any running into there, 754 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 5: but yeah, I I I think at this point we'd 755 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 5: be surprised if he wasn't the number one overall. Take 756 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 5: very surprised. 757 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: Kevin. Big plans for Valentine's Day. 758 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 5: We got none, to be honest with you, Yeah, our 759 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 5: anniversary is Monday, and I think we just kind of 760 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 5: largely chalk it up to, you know, my wife's obsessed 761 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 5: with Dancing with the Stars. I don't know if if 762 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 5: Shannon's into that at all. So for Christmas, I got 763 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 5: her some tickets. I think they're at Old National Center 764 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 5: in a few weeks, So I got her tickets to that, 765 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 5: and I kind of said, you know what, you's a 766 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 5: pretty good seas let's add this to the old anniversary thought. 767 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 5: And she was all aboard that, so don't have to 768 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 5: tell me. 769 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. 770 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: Now Shannon's into all the Real Housewives stuff. That and 771 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: that belowed down. 772 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 5: He watched the Mormon one. 773 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh. 774 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 5: My gosh, I mean Maddie is I mean Maddie just 775 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 5: kind of. 776 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: You know that That Mormon one's interesting because it's a 777 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: Real Housewives cast of twenty three people but only one husband. 778 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: That's the weird part about that, right. 779 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 5: Part of me? Why should I believe you? There? I'm 780 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 5: very confused when I walk into the room and that's on, 781 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 5: and I try to follow up on the plot. 782 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, hi, here you and every time I walk in, 783 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: it's no, no, no, five more minutes. They're about to 784 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: have a big argument here. They're about to make a 785 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: big fight. Five more minutes. Okay, say it's all staged. 786 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 5: I must say, decent, decent. 787 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: A look at though, Oh yeah, I no, no argument 788 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: with that. Just wait till after Valentine's Day to confess that. 789 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, Happy Valentine's Day, enjoy the Happy Anniversary too, 790 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: because Monday we will not be in here doing the shows, 791 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: but everybody back in the mix coming up on Tuesday, 792 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it as always. 793 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 5: Love you both, love the listeners. Happy Valentine's Day. 794 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: There you go, Kevin Bowen joining us on the Java 795 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: House col brew Coffee guest line again. 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