1
00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Lie from val Hartbiner and The Crossroads of America.

2
00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000
Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

3
00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,800
Speaker 1: So President Trump decided fifteen days to come up with

4
00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,400
Speaker 1: some kind of negotiation with Iran about their nuclear capability.

5
00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,200
Speaker 1: And I've always taken that as a great But what

6
00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,880
Speaker 1: is that supposed to tell us? I mean, I thought

7
00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:32,240
Speaker 1: we dismantled, abolished, obliterated their nuclear capability.

8
00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,160
Speaker 2: But clearly that's not the case.

9
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,360
Speaker 1: And I can live with the fact that people talked

10
00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,960
Speaker 1: about a thing, but it wasn't one hundred percent accurate.

11
00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720
Speaker 1: I can also accept the fact that the Iranians absolutely

12
00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,880
Speaker 1: want nuclear power, they want to engage nuclear weaponry, and

13
00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,159
Speaker 1: everything the Obama administration ever said about.

14
00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 2: It was wrong. Ben Rhodes has no idea what he's

15
00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,360
Speaker 2: talking about.

16
00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

17
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 1: to be with you. But if there is a deal

18
00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880
Speaker 1: to be made, does that mean the iatola stays.

19
00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 2: I discussed this with Noah Rothman over.

20
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,640
Speaker 1: At Nash Review, who I love his takes on national

21
00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,880
Speaker 1: on foreign policy, even if I disagree with him, and

22
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,200
Speaker 1: the argument was that everything leads to the idea of

23
00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,319
Speaker 1: the Ayatola eventually leaving leaving or being moved out.

24
00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,840
Speaker 2: And when Iran says they're gearing up for.

25
00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,200
Speaker 1: War, a war with whom, how is this the activation

26
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,480
Speaker 1: of terrorist cells or is this? Well, if you do

27
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,120
Speaker 1: this the United States, we're gonna drop everything we have

28
00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,960
Speaker 1: on Israel because we have nothing left to offer, and

29
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,080
Speaker 1: maybe we can get the twelfth e Moms showing up.

30
00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, Major Mike Lyons joins me.

31
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,759
Speaker 1: Right now retired to the United States Army, our military

32
00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,800
Speaker 1: analyst West Point graduate does work there still with the

33
00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 1: fantastic world of West Point. And let's start with the basics.

34
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,880
Speaker 1: Where is the Iranian military right now in their capabilities

35
00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,560
Speaker 1: after the bombing of Hordeaux, Isfahans and Atons, these nuclear sites.

36
00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 3: Tony, they are very fragmented. They they are having challenges

37
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 3: within their revolutionary Guards. From a generational fault line perspective

38
00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840
Speaker 3: that the younger troops kind of the captains and the

39
00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,959
Speaker 3: majors and the colonels are now being led by the

40
00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,760
Speaker 3: generals of that organization. That should there be a revolutions,

41
00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 3: as what normally happens is people will become held accountable,

42
00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,560
Speaker 3: that entire organization will be you know, head to the gallows,

43
00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,280
Speaker 3: so to speak. And that younger generation doesn't want to

44
00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,280
Speaker 3: have any part of that. So there's a generational fault

45
00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,200
Speaker 3: line that exists there that I write an intel report.

46
00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,560
Speaker 3: So that's pretty important because if the military, if their

47
00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 3: United States does attack, and the military is forced to respond,

48
00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,680
Speaker 3: what will that response be. Well, you might might tip

49
00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,919
Speaker 3: over and you might see that revolution to come from

50
00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,359
Speaker 3: with them. But to answer your specific question, that the

51
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,760
Speaker 3: Iranian military is very.

52
00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,239
Speaker 4: Weak right now.

53
00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,760
Speaker 3: Their navy is not not very capable. They have probably

54
00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,400
Speaker 3: one shot with ballistic missiles heading towards Israel, head towards

55
00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,640
Speaker 3: maybe some United States some hard locations in the their least,

56
00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,000
Speaker 3: but for for all practical purposes, that would be it.

57
00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,919
Speaker 3: But that's still not to say that they're still military

58
00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,639
Speaker 3: targets that the United States could go after if they

59
00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,120
Speaker 3: decided to.

60
00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600
Speaker 1: But when the Iranians say we're preparing for war, a

61
00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360
Speaker 1: lot of that is the standard saber rattling that the

62
00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Iranians have done for forever. I was Senator Tom Cotton

63
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,320
Speaker 1: who said they don't win any wars, but they're extremely

64
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,720
Speaker 1: good at negotiating, And it's the idea of trying to

65
00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 1: get them to settle down and giving them things instead

66
00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960
Speaker 1: of them instead of actually having to fight them. It's

67
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,520
Speaker 1: a very North Korea point of view. Is there still

68
00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,080
Speaker 1: a concern though, that even though they may be fragmented,

69
00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,640
Speaker 1: they still have mobile missile launchers, they still have certain capabilities,

70
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,880
Speaker 1: and they could still create a lot of problems in

71
00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,200
Speaker 1: the region, not just for Israel because they seem to

72
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,920
Speaker 1: want to take it out on everybody, because everybody else

73
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,000
Speaker 1: wants them gone.

74
00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,320
Speaker 3: Yes, they could likely and possibly mobilize forces like heads

75
00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,160
Speaker 3: Bellah and Hamas and other terrorist organizations that exist there,

76
00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,960
Speaker 3: even though they've been severely degraded. But they could possibly

77
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,560
Speaker 3: do that create some problems. But the one shot that

78
00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,400
Speaker 3: they could have if they're that close to breakout and

79
00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,640
Speaker 3: they could somehow weaponize three or four nuclear weapons, I mean,

80
00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 3: that's what the concern has to be right now. The

81
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,680
Speaker 3: concern is not iron getting you know, one hundred nuclear

82
00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,360
Speaker 3: weapons and moving a program as similar to what we

83
00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,960
Speaker 3: saw in North Korea. It's just a few of them.

84
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,640
Speaker 3: If they had a few nuclear weapons and use them

85
00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,720
Speaker 3: and even launch them on ballistic missiles without any.

86
00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719
Speaker 4: Real you know, knowing where that they're were going.

87
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,480
Speaker 3: To go, without the level of the fire direction that

88
00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,000
Speaker 3: has normally required, then that's a significant threat. And that's

89
00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,279
Speaker 3: that's what I think they're racing towards. They're racing towards

90
00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,680
Speaker 3: a breakout of some sort, which is why the military targets,

91
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,560
Speaker 3: if we go back again, have got to be where

92
00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,240
Speaker 3: they make ballistic missiles, where they test the nuclear weapons,

93
00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,440
Speaker 3: not just in Richmond sites. It's going to go step

94
00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440
Speaker 3: further in places that we hadn't really hit the first time.

95
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,480
Speaker 1: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired to the United States

96
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,120
Speaker 1: Army military analyst, staying on this part of the subject,

97
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,120
Speaker 1: one wonders, if you talk about being able to activate,

98
00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279
Speaker 1: it has blowed whatever is left of Hamas, which is

99
00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,800
Speaker 1: bothersome to hear that there's still something left of Hamas.

100
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,680
Speaker 1: You've got the Houthi rebels in Yemen. But there's also

101
00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,400
Speaker 1: the concern about the activation of cells and what we

102
00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,839
Speaker 1: have allowed on our southern border during the four years

103
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200
Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. While the border certainly was porous

104
00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,680
Speaker 1: for years and presidents going back over the last thirty years,

105
00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,599
Speaker 1: the last four years under Joe Biden was horrifying and

106
00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,360
Speaker 1: what was allowed into the country. Is their concern that

107
00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,039
Speaker 1: if Iran feels like well, this run for the iatola

108
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,280
Speaker 1: is over. Let it all loose, let it all hang out.

109
00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Is there the possibility? Is there the concern from Trump

110
00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,359
Speaker 1: and in the Pentagon that that could mean salves in

111
00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,160
Speaker 1: the United States.

112
00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, law enforcement that I've spoken to don't believe that

113
00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,520
Speaker 3: is a threat. That's pure rhetoric coming from the Iranians.

114
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,640
Speaker 4: And there's no really way.

115
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,600
Speaker 3: To mobilize them if they even do exist. And if

116
00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,840
Speaker 3: there's one thing that we've done since nine to eleven

117
00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,760
Speaker 3: is tie all these intelligence agencies together, and now with

118
00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,559
Speaker 3: the use of artificial intelligence, even more so, every league

119
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,359
Speaker 3: gets run down. And so we're on top of any

120
00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,200
Speaker 3: situation like that, so as the Department Publand Security looks

121
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,640
Speaker 3: to go out and chase down some of the people

122
00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,680
Speaker 3: that have crossed over.

123
00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,760
Speaker 4: And there is the unknown unknown, but.

124
00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,680
Speaker 3: That's the lone wolf, and that's always a threat that

125
00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,040
Speaker 3: could exist anywhere. But to have some kind of coordinated,

126
00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,360
Speaker 3: large scale attack like a nine to eleven is probably

127
00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,359
Speaker 3: not likely because we're no longer asleep at the switch,

128
00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 3: we're no longer not as creative as what our enemies

129
00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,040
Speaker 3: could be. And I've got confidence in the people I've

130
00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,719
Speaker 3: spoken to a law enforcement that think that that's just

131
00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,159
Speaker 3: the case.

132
00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,679
Speaker 1: Now, let's take a look at what President Trump has said.

133
00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,320
Speaker 1: Because President Trump has said I want to create a

134
00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,320
Speaker 1: deal regarding nuclear which leads to the idea that somehow

135
00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,600
Speaker 1: the Iyatola gets to stay. Now, maybe that's not the case.

136
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,960
Speaker 1: Maybe a deal is this is the moment for you

137
00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,080
Speaker 1: Iotola to catch a play into China or Russia because

138
00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,080
Speaker 1: you can't go to ven as well.

139
00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,880
Speaker 2: Anymore and be done with you. And that's the end

140
00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,360
Speaker 2: of that.

141
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,600
Speaker 1: Is this let's start Maybe I'll even go back another step.

142
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,240
Speaker 2: What is this argument that the president is making.

143
00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see Ron negotiating any nuclear deal with

144
00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,080
Speaker 3: the United States. This is just a way to buy

145
00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 3: time right now. The president, I believe, is just doing

146
00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,800
Speaker 3: all he can to put it out there that he's

147
00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,720
Speaker 3: trying to have peace, he's trying to get something done.

148
00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he will do what Obama did, and

149
00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,480
Speaker 3: that's basically a Peaceians by signing a deal with them.

150
00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640
Speaker 3: That all that did was kicked the nuclear capability down

151
00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,680
Speaker 3: the road. So I don't see this president doing that.

152
00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,520
Speaker 3: He's pretty much drawn a very hard line in the

153
00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,800
Speaker 3: saying and you combine that with Israel's feeling about the

154
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880
Speaker 3: ballistic missiles that they're all together, and so the Uranians

155
00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,200
Speaker 3: are not going to agree that. So that's why the

156
00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,560
Speaker 3: race is on. The race is on for the Iranians

157
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,520
Speaker 3: to try to cobble together some kind of breakout something

158
00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,080
Speaker 3: in order to get some level of the terrence that

159
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600
Speaker 3: would cause the United States not to attack, let's say.

160
00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,560
Speaker 3: But I just don't see the President thinking that that's

161
00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,000
Speaker 3: going to be the case. The leverage that the military

162
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,200
Speaker 3: has put on the Uranians right now is just not

163
00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,679
Speaker 3: felt by them. And that's what Trump understands. He understands leverage.

164
00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,000
Speaker 3: But they've not changed their behavior even though we have

165
00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400
Speaker 3: two carrier groups and all the intel is showing all

166
00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,040
Speaker 3: the troops that are moving and the level of capability

167
00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,840
Speaker 3: that we have right now.

168
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,439
Speaker 1: What deterrents possibly could the Iranians show because outside of oh,

169
00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,280
Speaker 1: they've got the nuclear weapon, I don't don't know what

170
00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,600
Speaker 1: could possibly exist.

171
00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if they once they feel they have

172
00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,119
Speaker 3: some weapon that they can weaponize something, they have ballistic capability,

173
00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,000
Speaker 3: right have anue to get to deliver a nuke, and

174
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,520
Speaker 3: unlike other countries that could develop it, they can't.

175
00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,480
Speaker 4: But North Korea has a challenge because of its rocket program.

176
00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,080
Speaker 3: It's just not as sophisticated, and they could push it.

177
00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 4: Across to South Korea.

178
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,840
Speaker 3: But but in this case, the Uranians have a sophisticated

179
00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160
Speaker 3: missile and rocket program that could deliver it within theater.

180
00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,720
Speaker 4: And so the threat is Israel. So Israel. Could Israel

181
00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,040
Speaker 4: absorb four.

182
00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,160
Speaker 3: Or five nuclear weapons even low grade one five to

183
00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,960
Speaker 3: five level? Could they absorb four or five nuclear weapons

184
00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,880
Speaker 3: coming into downtown Tel Aviv or in some high far

185
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,520
Speaker 3: or some other place inside of Israel?

186
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,240
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

187
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,600
Speaker 3: And I think that would just open up a complete

188
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,400
Speaker 3: regional conflict that that nobody wants to see.

189
00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,000
Speaker 2: See that.

190
00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,120
Speaker 1: No, don't get me wrong, I don't want that for anybody.

191
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,559
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to what we think regional conflict is now.

192
00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,480
Speaker 1: And this goes to what President Trump is trying to

193
00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,319
Speaker 1: do with this Board of Peace, because this isn't about

194
00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,480
Speaker 1: getting input from neighbors about how you think we should

195
00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,440
Speaker 1: rebuild Gazasho.

196
00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,440
Speaker 2: We put the hotel over here, condos over here, you out.

197
00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Put the water plans over here. No, no, no, This

198
00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760
Speaker 1: is about saying everybody puts in their money. Now you

199
00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,480
Speaker 1: all have skin in the game. And that forces Iran

200
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,840
Speaker 1: to rethink terrorism and everyone else in the region to

201
00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,040
Speaker 1: rethink terrorism. Nobody wants terrorist activities when they're going to

202
00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,200
Speaker 1: lose money. They don't care if the other guy loses lives,

203
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,120
Speaker 1: but they don't want to lose money. So you force

204
00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800
Speaker 1: everybody in. Everybody's now a skin in the game. You

205
00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840
Speaker 1: got to work together, even if you don't like each other.

206
00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,080
Speaker 1: And I think that a bunch of these nations would

207
00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,120
Speaker 1: rather that because they see Iran as this constant looming threat.

208
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,360
Speaker 1: They'll deal with trying to figure out who's going to

209
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,800
Speaker 1: be the hegemonic power, Turkey or Saudi Arabia in the region.

210
00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:56,600
Speaker 1: So what is the where is the real concern? It's

211
00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,600
Speaker 1: not that you want Israel to take these hits, it's

212
00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,880
Speaker 1: that who else. Other players don't seem to want this either.

213
00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,160
Speaker 3: You know, for forty seven years, the Uranians have not

214
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,000
Speaker 3: played well with anybody there. The Turks talk to them,

215
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,240
Speaker 3: but that's about it. The Iraqis have also speak to

216
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,560
Speaker 3: them because they're aligned from the religious aspects of them.

217
00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 3: But Syria remains a wild card. The Saudis hate the

218
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,160
Speaker 3: Iranians because there's a different sect of.

219
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,719
Speaker 4: The Muslim religion, and so you know, there's no.

220
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,200
Speaker 3: Expectation that the Iranians are all of a sudden going

221
00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,840
Speaker 3: to agree to play and get along with everybody just

222
00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,199
Speaker 3: for the base of survival. Now I'm sure the regime

223
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520
Speaker 3: would like to survive here, but the calculus I think

224
00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,400
Speaker 3: they're doing is if they could get a nuclear weapon,

225
00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,000
Speaker 3: they'll they'll look at what's happened in history. They'll look

226
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,319
Speaker 3: at places like Libya, and they'll look at places where

227
00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,560
Speaker 3: these countries that didn't get the nuclear capability and what

228
00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,880
Speaker 3: happened to their leadership, which is what I think they're

229
00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,600
Speaker 3: with their face, their face that their regime is not

230
00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 3: going to survive, and there's nobody in the reason that

231
00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,560
Speaker 3: wants that to happen.

232
00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,560
Speaker 1: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired to the United States

233
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:09,960
Speaker 1: Army military analyst, Now let's get into how hitting military

234
00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,480
Speaker 1: targets helps the people. President Trump said, to the protesters

235
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,199
Speaker 1: who desperately want the Eye totally gone, they do not

236
00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,119
Speaker 1: want this Islamic yoke on them anymore. They're not Muslims,

237
00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,600
Speaker 1: not a Muslim nation, but we the President said, help

238
00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,640
Speaker 1: is on its way and then talks about military targets.

239
00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920
Speaker 1: Now I can appreciate you take out military targets to

240
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320
Speaker 1: soften them up, to make it easier to do other things.

241
00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920
Speaker 1: But how does the president now live up to the

242
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,640
Speaker 1: words help is on its way if you don't break

243
00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,920
Speaker 1: the IRGC. You're making an argument of And so first

244
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm really hearing of it, regarding that there are two

245
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,160
Speaker 1: types of views in the IERGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps,

246
00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,000
Speaker 1: which is the group that keeps the oppression on the

247
00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,360
Speaker 1: people that a younger generation doesn't want to go down

248
00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,559
Speaker 1: the road to the older generation. But it seems like

249
00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,600
Speaker 1: everybody will do anything as long as the money is flowing.

250
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 1: Is it the better move to stop the money from flowing?

251
00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,760
Speaker 1: And that would mean if there's going to be some

252
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,280
Speaker 1: level of bombing raid, how about hitting the oil fields

253
00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,640
Speaker 1: and figuring you'll remake them later.

254
00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know, those are not military targets, and I

255
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,640
Speaker 3: think that that would create a future problem for the people.

256
00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,440
Speaker 4: And anytime we do go to war and have.

257
00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880
Speaker 3: A conflict like that, we try to keep the infrastructure

258
00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,520
Speaker 3: in place. Even our enemies try to do that. The

259
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,840
Speaker 3: Russians only recently are going after the Ukrainian infrastructure, knowing

260
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,319
Speaker 3: so well that if they wanted.

261
00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,000
Speaker 4: To take it over, they'd have to repair it.

262
00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,960
Speaker 3: So the bigger challenge would be the Uranians deciding to

263
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,480
Speaker 3: mine the strate of remotes or deciding to create havoc

264
00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,320
Speaker 3: there with other countries moving what's one fifth of the

265
00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,120
Speaker 3: of the of the oil supply of the world through

266
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,800
Speaker 3: that very tenuous area there that the United States now

267
00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800
Speaker 3: has to has to guard and make sure it goes through.

268
00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,640
Speaker 3: But you've got to go after the military targets from

269
00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,320
Speaker 3: a legal perspective that I think of all those things factor,

270
00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,160
Speaker 3: it's not legal for us to go after the leadership.

271
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,440
Speaker 3: For example, there's no way this is not Maduro, this

272
00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,719
Speaker 3: is not Venezuela. We're not going to target Komenie, We're

273
00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,840
Speaker 3: not going to target any of the Mulah's there.

274
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,560
Speaker 4: That just doesn't make any real sense. So again, if

275
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,760
Speaker 4: you destroy and take down the military and.

276
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,600
Speaker 3: Take out their capability, you still want to hope that

277
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000
Speaker 3: they just didn't puote from within because no troops on

278
00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,920
Speaker 3: the ground. The Army's not in this fight. There's no

279
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,640
Speaker 3: army troops ready to invade or anything like that. So

280
00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,360
Speaker 3: this is all have to come from within.

281
00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840
Speaker 1: When you take a look at the rest of the board,

282
00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,760
Speaker 1: you take a look at the rest of how the

283
00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,360
Speaker 1: world is watching this. You take a look at what

284
00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,600
Speaker 1: we did in Venezuela and the capture of Maduro. Is

285
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,520
Speaker 1: there a scenario by which the United States is saying,

286
00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240
Speaker 1: we want to do this because it is going to

287
00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,760
Speaker 1: allow us. You know, you're the guy who wrote the

288
00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:02,360
Speaker 1: article and quasi coined the phrase Trump and the doctrine

289
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,880
Speaker 1: of visible leverage, which you wrote about when.

290
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,720
Speaker 2: People can find I believe it real clear policy. You

291
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 2: go over to that.

292
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560
Speaker 1: Site and this idea that President Trump is a believer

293
00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,359
Speaker 1: in the full on showing of the force to remind

294
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,400
Speaker 1: other nations what we are capable of. Maduro's captures showed

295
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot of nations what we are capable of. Is

296
00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,960
Speaker 1: there a move here where the President feels the Pentagon

297
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,360
Speaker 1: feels that this is an opportunity through a very very

298
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,680
Speaker 1: high possibility of low risk. Really say to the rest

299
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000
Speaker 1: of the world, specifically China and to a smaller extent, Russia,

300
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400
Speaker 1: we are more capable than you understand. We had to

301
00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,440
Speaker 1: show you a little bit. Don't bother us again. Is

302
00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,520
Speaker 1: there a bit of that going on?

303
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 4: Possibly?

304
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,320
Speaker 3: I think that they really believe that this is the

305
00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,000
Speaker 3: right thing to do. That are the Iranian nuclear capability

306
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,760
Speaker 3: threatens the peace in that region, and this president wants

307
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,520
Speaker 3: to take care of this problem right now. That's been

308
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,600
Speaker 3: a problem for forty seven years to the United States.

309
00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,960
Speaker 3: So I applaud him from that perspective. But there's a

310
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400
Speaker 3: lot more risk in this situation. This is a much

311
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,600
Speaker 3: more sophisticated military. They have air defense artillery that has

312
00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,000
Speaker 3: come in from China over the last eight months. They

313
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,560
Speaker 3: you know, commanders expect losses, and the fact that we

314
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,920
Speaker 3: pulled off that Venezuela mission was nothing short of miraculous.

315
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,840
Speaker 4: But that's not to say that would be the same

316
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,360
Speaker 4: right now.

317
00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,520
Speaker 3: For example, there's so many different things. If they decide

318
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 3: to attack this week, the nighttime mid moon illumination is

319
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720
Speaker 3: getting better, and that's not good for our pilots, and

320
00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,080
Speaker 3: so that the President is going to take the time.

321
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,680
Speaker 4: To make sure that if we do something.

322
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 3: Militarily, it gives us the best possible advantage, which is

323
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,360
Speaker 3: at night when we could see things that our enemy

324
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,960
Speaker 3: can't see. But you have to have this expectation of

325
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,600
Speaker 3: something still could go very wrong, and nothing is guaranteed.

326
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,800
Speaker 1: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army Military Analyst m Aj.

327
00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,520
Speaker 1: For Major Mike Lyons. Ly Ons m Aj. Mike Lyons

328
00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,960
Speaker 1: on the Twitter X find him There. More is coming

329
00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,439
Speaker 1: up on Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. So

330
00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,680
Speaker 1: there's unhinged and there's unhinged. And then there is Katie Porter,

331
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:22,280
Speaker 1: former congresswoman now a candidate for governor of California, the

332
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,040
Speaker 1: one who is always yelling at her staffers and has

333
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 1: come off so horribly and interviews. She is an unlikable person.

334
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,120
Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today. She's the one who got

335
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,000
Speaker 1: divorced and the husband accused her of dumping a bowl

336
00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,560
Speaker 1: of hot potatoes on his head. Like she's just she's

337
00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,680
Speaker 1: a nasty person, and she yells at her staff all

338
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040
Speaker 1: the time. And she's there at the California Democratic Party

339
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,960
Speaker 1: event they're getting ready for the primary, and she's holding

340
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,800
Speaker 1: up a sign and she says, this is how we're

341
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna beat Trump.

342
00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,040
Speaker 2: This is what I think of Trump, and twelve.

343
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,919
Speaker 5: Together we're gonna kick Trump's in November.

344
00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 2: I'll stand up to Trump.

345
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,359
Speaker 5: And his cronies, just like I did in Congress, with

346
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,240
Speaker 5: or without my whiteboard.

347
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,440
Speaker 2: And she holds up this whiteboard.

348
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 1: And it's it's f Trump and she's getting the crowd

349
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,359
Speaker 1: to chat with her F Trump. This is how they

350
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 1: go about gathering the people, This is how they go

351
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 1: about getting votes. And for those of you who are

352
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna be with me, February twenty eighth in Indianapolis at

353
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 1: the downtown Hyatt Regency, which I think the ticket site

354
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,719
Speaker 1: is still up.

355
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 2: I thought ticket sales were closed.

356
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 1: Tickets tot tonikats dot com.

357
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,120
Speaker 2: You should really join.

358
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be such a good time, red tie, lots

359
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 1: of bourbon, plenty of food, live music, it's gonna be great,

360
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 1: cigars for everybody.

361
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,320
Speaker 2: Gonna be fantastic.

362
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 1: Tickets dot tony kats dot com.

363
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 2: You understand that they don't have a single policy they

364
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,240
Speaker 2: can run on, not a one.

365
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,440
Speaker 1: They don't run on policy, whether they're running for governor,

366
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: whether they're running for Congress, running for anything. Democrats are

367
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 1: not running on policy. They are running on how much

368
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 1: can I show you I hate Trump because that's the

369
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 1: only thing motivating these voters. I argue that doesn't motivate

370
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: every voter. And people still want to hear what you

371
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 1: are for, not what you're against. They don't want to

372
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 1: hear about everything you hate, what do you favor? And

373
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 1: one of the things you should favor is their lives

374
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: being better with policies and plans and procedures.

375
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 2: California's got none of this.

376
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Steve Hilton the Republicans doing so well

377
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: in the polls, and hopefully that lasts keep it here.

378
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,159
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz.

379
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today. I can't imagine that this

380
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: wasn't already planned. I think it's too quick to put

381
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 1: something like this together. But here we are less than

382
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 1: a day removed from learning about this movement from the

383
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 1: Mexican military, which I believe had somehow help from the

384
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: US military, maybe strategy, maybe planning, maybe some intel that

385
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: took out this cartel leader in Mexico, which has led

386
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 1: to the cartel setting fire to Portavarta, to going attacks

387
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 1: at the airport, burning out cars, and they set the

388
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: Costco on fire, which is I don't know how they're

389
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: gonna get their hot dogs now. But I shouldn't really

390
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: make light of a situation that's very dangerous and a

391
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 1: cartel that is outrageously dangerous.

392
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

393
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: Good to be here, Good to be with you, because

394
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: today the President had an event at the White House

395
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: where they were hosting families of victims of foreign criminal organizations.

396
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: We should be clear. These cartels are a threat and

397
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: they have to be dealt with, and we have to

398
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: deal with them. And they think they're the toughest, scariest

399
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: people on the planet. I think we need to be

400
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: tougher and scarier, and I think we need to hold.

401
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: Mexico more to account.

402
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: And anytime the President of Mexico, Claudia Scheinbaum, or anybody

403
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: else tries to make it sound like, oh, these cartels

404
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: aren't so bad, stop being crazy, of course they are.

405
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: And Mexico can never have a strong society if they're

406
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: going to continue to play in the shadow government game,

407
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: which is, oh, yeah, they have elections, but this cartel

408
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: over here and that cartel over there they run everything,

409
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: and they don't Those politicians don't speak out because they're

410
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: afraid or because they're getting paid, and when someone gets

411
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: a little too upity, they get killed. You can't run.

412
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: You can't have a legitimate country that way. The people

413
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: cannot feel that somehow they have got something of value

414
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 1: walking out into the streets every day because they have

415
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: to knowing it could be their last. That's not a

416
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 1: way a society can work. It cannot work based on

417
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: this concept. And Mexico has had this problem for years.

418
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: Anytime you're in the bribery society, you cannot have a

419
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: society can't work.

420
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: And these people who have dealt with.

421
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: This and are victims of this, of these foreign criminal organizations,

422
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: whether it's Cartels or others. And by the way, Trump

423
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: testing they that the Cartels a terrorist organization. He was

424
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. Something Again, the left was all sorts of

425
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: opposed to. Who cares what they're opposed to. If you

426
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: listen to the.

427
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: American left, you can't lead a good life.

428
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: They can't create a country, they can't build a country,

429
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: they can't keep a country. And what they're doing in

430
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: the twenty somethings, what they're doing to younger Americans is

431
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: setting up up for a life of failure and pain

432
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 1: and anguish and not being able to reach your dreams.

433
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: You can't vote for these people. Can't vote for these people.

434
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a little bit of foreshadowing.

435
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out what the message is

436
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: because the Republicans have been.

437
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: Horrible at messaging.

438
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm on it, and I think it is

439
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: as relatable as the day is long, not even based

440
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: on what Republicans are doing, based on what Democrats are doing.

441
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: And I'll get more into that.

442
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: But President Trump there, I don't know what room there,

443
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: I think in the East room and a lot of

444
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: people assembled, and he's having this conversation about these families

445
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: that he is hosting who have been.

446
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: The victims of foreign criminal organizations.

447
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 6: We gathered here today for a truly solemn occasion. Throughout

448
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: this whole I am joined by heartbroken Americans who have

449
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 6: postparent siblings, children, grandchildren, and treasured loved ones to scourge

450
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 6: of illegal immigration let in by the past administration, Millions

451
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 6: and millions of people from jails, Millions and millions of

452
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: people from countries that we don't want to know about,

453
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: drug dealers, murderers, eleven eight and eighty eight murderers were

454
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: allowed into our.

455
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: By the Biden administration.

456
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 6: These are the Angel families that we love that for

457
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 6: decades our government betrayed and our media totally ignored. And

458
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: I've seen it. When I first got involved with the

459
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 6: Angel Families, I had a meeting, was so sad and

460
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 6: they got up and spoken. The media literally just turned

461
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 6: off the cameras. They didn't want to hear them. That

462
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 6: was my first limbs as to what was happening. These

463
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 6: are sick people that cover stories like that, or they

464
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 6: don't cover them, which is worse. Everyone in this room

465
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 6: not only suffered an infinite loss. They were the victims

466
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 6: of politicians who put the comfort of foreign criminals before

467
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 6: the safety of American citizens and American patriots. Their stories

468
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 6: were censored and suppressed like maybe almost never before, so

469
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 6: that the politicians could open our borders and allow our

470
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: our nation to be invaded. We didn't win the election,

471
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 6: a nation would right now be destroyed. But under the

472
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 6: Trump administration, they're suffering is forgotten no longer. In just

473
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 6: a few moments, I officially signed a proclamation that I've

474
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 6: been waiting to sign for a long time, including my

475
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 6: first administration. There were so many different legal roadblocks. It

476
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 6: was incredible.

477
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: We got it.

478
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 6: Done, and I'm doing it today. February twenty second is

479
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 6: going to be National Angel.

480
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: Family Day. Very important.

481
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 6: So many incredible family members and friends, parents and children.

482
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: On February twenty second, two years ago, a brilliant twenty

483
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 6: two year old nursing student named Lincoln Hope Riley went

484
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 6: out for a run on a college campus in Georgia.

485
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: Lincoln was viciously attacked, brutally beaten, and murdered by an

486
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: illegal alien gang member who the last administration heartlessly released

487
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 6: into our country.

488
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: No problems, let them in. They let in everybody.

489
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 6: They didn't check anybody, They let in everybody. Among the

490
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: first bills I signed into law after taking office last

491
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 6: year was the Lincoln Riley Act. So proud of it,

492
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 6: to ensure legal alien criminals are rapidly removed from the

493
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 6: United States of America. That's okay with the media. That

494
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 6: bill has already been really playing a big role in

495
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 6: the life of our country. It has resulted in over

496
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 6: twenty one thousand illegal alien arrest twenty one thousand.

497
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Now, this is a subject that matters. It's a midterm subject.

498
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: And give me if it sounds like I'm being callous,

499
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: right and not paying attention to what these families have

500
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: been through and why this legislation is important. I don't

501
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: mean to be, and I want to be clear that

502
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I support this legislation. I support the idea that we

503
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: are focused on, the idea that We do not allow this.

504
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: Criminal activity to take place.

505
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: We do not allow for the idea that somehow, if

506
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: you're in the country illegally, it's okay. It's never okay.

507
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: And the people who support this, these Unamerican zelots, who

508
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: want to make life harder for everybody, especially those who

509
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: are trying to build their lives and create their futures

510
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: and possible families and everything else, they need to be

511
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: shown the door. They cannot be allowed to be in charge.

512
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: They cannot be allowed to win elections. They can't be

513
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: allowed power. They're not good enough. To quote Monty Python,

514
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: They're not qualified.

515
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: They're just not. But this is.

516
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: An important subject because the safety and security conversation does

517
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: indeed matter.

518
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: Here's what we're doing for you.

519
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Look at what they did to you and what they

520
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: still want to do to you. Remember we signed the

521
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Lake and Riley Act, and those people didn't even stand up.

522
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: They wouldn't applaud, they wouldn't cheer, they wouldn't say her

523
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: memory matters. They didn't stand up for a thirteen year

524
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: old kid with brain cancer. These democrats are horrible, and

525
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: so this is a reminder of that that there is

526
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: a true safety concern here. There is a real issue here,

527
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: not the narrative that the left puts out there.

528
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Ice is terrorizing neighborhood.

529
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Stop it. We can walk and chew gum. And what

530
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: they're saying is, we don't want you to walk or

531
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: chew gum. Just listen to what we say, do what

532
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: we say, or else. That's the America and Left, and

533
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: it's important to remind people that real lives have been affected.

534
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: We are changing this. People voted to change this, and

535
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: the changes are good.

536
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 6: This morning by Lincoln's parents, who I have gotten to know.

537
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 6: These are incredible people, and I want to ask Lincoln's mother, Alison,

538
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: to please come forward and say a few words.

539
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: Please.

540
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: So that's Tom Holman now sitting next to her, helping

541
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: her up to the stage, and she now takes the podium.

542
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 7: Well, this is unexpected, but.

543
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: I think that.

544
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 7: A lot of people. I feel like that President Trump

545
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 7: is maybe different than the version I've gotten to know.

546
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 7: And I just can't thank you enough. You have said

547
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 7: from the beginn literally the day after this happened, that

548
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 7: he would not forget about Lincoln. You weren't president at

549
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 7: that time, and you have not forgotten. You have fought

550
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 7: a fight that most people would not want to have

551
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 7: to fight.

552
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Most people wouldn't.

553
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 7: They would just say it's just easier not to do this.

554
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 7: And President Trump has You are doing a thankless job

555
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 7: that most people just wouldn't do. And I just can't

556
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 7: thank you enough. There are just not enough words to say,

557
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 7: because if you've lived the nightmare that we have lived,

558
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 7: you understand the importance of the job that he's doing

559
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 7: and securing our nation and fighting for our families, because

560
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 7: this could be any family. This happened to my family,

561
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 7: this could be anyone one of your families. And lacoln

562
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 7: was the most responsible, hard working, kind, selfless, beautiful Christian.

563
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 7: And she wasn't somebody that put herself in bad positions.

564
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 7: She didn't make bad choices. She was just a good girl.

565
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 7: And she just wanted to go for a run that

566
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 7: morning after she'd gotten up at four o'clock in the

567
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 7: morning before to decorate her roommate's door for her birthday.

568
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 7: And she did everything for everyone else.

569
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 2: She expected nothing in return.

570
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 7: She just wanted to be a good friend and a

571
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 7: good sister, and a good daughter and a hard working nurse.

572
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: She was working so hard for and I'm beyond blessed

573
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 7: and thankful that you're honoring not just Lacan, because she's

574
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 7: one a ton of people that have suffered at the

575
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 7: hands of illegal immigrants. She's not the only one, and

576
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: so thank you for honoring all of them, not just Lacan.

577
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: Now I want somebody to go out there and tell

578
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: me how she's a bigot. Let the left confront this.

579
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Let the left try and push back on this, and

580
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: it exposes this, this horrifying nature of where their position is.

581
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: The rational position is you don't allow a legal immigrants

582
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: into the country.

583
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: You don't allow people unvetted into the country.

584
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: The irrational position is, well, you know, legal citizens commit

585
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: more crimes. It's an irrational position because it is meant

586
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: not to say, well, that's an interesting point. It is

587
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: to try and get you to forget that the person

588
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: who committed the crime was in the country illegally. To

589
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: begin with, that if they were not in the country,

590
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: the crime could not have been committed. One could argue that,

591
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: according to data or studies or odds, Lake and Riley

592
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: could have been attacked by somebody else. One could say that,

593
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: but it is without question factual with one hundred percent

594
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: certitude that if illegal immigrants were not allowed in the country,

595
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: Lake and.

596
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: Riley would not have been killed by that guy.

597
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: That's not a deniable thing, that is not a deniable subject.

598
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: It is just fact.

599
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: And what the left does is try to ignore that fact.

600
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: But we can't, we won't. We're too rational, we're too normal.

601
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: And then you look at the fact that they do

602
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: ignore it and try to ignore it and want you

603
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: to ignore it, and you're like, man, those people are weird.

604
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Can't vote for those people, cannot vote for them. Events

605
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: like this are smart because we need the reminder and

606
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: we need the legislation, and we need to keep fighting

607
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: against those who want to somehow allow a legal immigrants

608
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: into the country, and we have to win and they

609
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: have to lose. On Tony Katz, this is Tony Katz today,

610
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: and just to put a bow on it, Tony Katz,

611
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. I didn't know I was going to

612
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: even hit this clip. But here we are talking about

613
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and he's talking to the families of victims

614
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: of crime because of illegal immigration and other things.

615
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: And the mother of.

616
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Lacoln Riley is speaking and discussing how this didn't have

617
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: to happen, and how thankful she is for President Trump.

618
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: And I believe that this is an important subject for

619
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: the midterms. This is a way to connect with suburban mothers.

620
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: This is how could anybody be opposed to keeping criminals

621
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: out of the country. They're not even allowed to be

622
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: in the country. And yet you have the Democratic Party

623
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: not only willing to still engage this shutdown of the

624
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security right and affecting these things.

625
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: But this is.

626
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: Senator Reuben Diego who so bravely said he's not going

627
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: to the State of the Union.

628
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: I hope I can get a seat when I'm there.

629
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: He said this.

630
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: In Arizona, for example, they just bought a seventy million

631
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: dollar warehouse, did not even speak to the governor, did

632
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: not speak to any of the local city council members,

633
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: which in the Republicans, you know, they're setting up these

634
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: internment camps.

635
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: And yet when we ask for very simple things, things.

636
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: That would actually bring trust security to our communities, they

637
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 5: refused in it's.

638
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Not an internment camp. Stop it. All they want to

639
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: do is how can we connect to World War two?

640
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: How can we make it about concentration camps. These people

641
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: are disgusting because they don't want to address the fact

642
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: that they want people legally in the country because they want.

643
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Votes, and it's up to us to address it. Their

644
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: narrative is bunk. Let's bust the crap out of it.

645
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony Kat's calm. We'll catch it tomorrow.

646
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: Everyone take care,