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Speaker 1: year almost feels like it could be a gap year

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Speaker 1: for the Colts because I know that Daniel Jones, the optimism,

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Speaker 1: the thought, the belief, the hope, all of that is

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Speaker 1: that he's ready to go by say September. But that's

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Speaker 1: ready to go in terms of full speed practice, right,

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Speaker 1: And so then you get into okay, you go through

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Speaker 1: the year to find out who and what Jones is

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Speaker 1: at that point, and then where do you go from there.

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Speaker 1: It may be in the best interest of Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: to blow it up. It might be in the best

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Speaker 1: interest of Carli Ersa Gordon to blow it up in

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Speaker 1: the front office. But I already went over all that

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Speaker 1: why that may not be as simple as it sounds.

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Speaker 1: But for Chris Ballard, if he can convince them, and

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Speaker 1: at this point, one would assume that he can sell

447
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Speaker 1: like ice to an Eskimo or you know, catch up

448
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Speaker 1: flavored popsicles to people in Miami in white suits, because

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Speaker 1: he continues to get this amount of time. So if

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Speaker 1: he can sell them on it, maybe it is time

451
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Speaker 1: for not a complete and total reset, but a pretty

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Speaker 1: clear one. Because the best Grover Stewart. Grover Stewart will

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Speaker 1: be thirty three years old, and thirty two probably is

454
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Speaker 1: around the magic number where then guys start to regress

455
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Speaker 1: a little bit, injuries start to step in. And one

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Speaker 1: thing we've learned from this franchise is that injuries are

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Speaker 1: literally the kryptonite of the Colts. Other franchises seem to

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Speaker 1: overcome them. Other franchises seem to stay the course and

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Speaker 1: then find their way back by having other players that

460
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Speaker 1: can come in. But for whatever reason, the area that

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, and what I've always said about Chris Ballard,

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Speaker 1: give him credit for this, he tells you what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do. Oftentimes after a draft, Chris Ballard sits up

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Speaker 1: there and you're like, you know what he pretty much said,

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Speaker 1: that's where they were going or in decisions they make. Oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: I'll give the guy a ton of credit. He's pretty honest,

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Speaker 1: and we naturally cynically assume that there is like some

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Speaker 1: sort of cryptic message being said. But when he does

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Speaker 1: his state of the team messages, usually he's pretty hones

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Speaker 1: And one area where he was pretty honest was when

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Speaker 1: he said the thing that most holds him back from

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Speaker 1: sleeping at night when thinking about building a team is

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Speaker 1: how to find depth. He's never been more accurate, because

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that continues to hold them back. They

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Speaker 1: don't have the depth. Last night, they didn't have the depth,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't have the effort that defense that was putrid.

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Speaker 1: Jim Mora will tell you what the defense looked like

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Speaker 1: last night afterwards. Jim Morra, who had his famous ran

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Speaker 1: against the Niners, Jim Mora on last night's performance defensively agreed, yeah,

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Speaker 1: hard argue that Stevenholder ESPN dot com joins us next,

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Speaker 1: there are three that any member of the Colts defense

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Speaker 1: can blame for last night's loss. Me, myself, and I

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean me, I mean they as they

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Speaker 1: are looking in the mirror, mirror on the wall, like

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Speaker 1: Daylas soul one said, I thought, personally last night, that

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Speaker 1: was a defensive effort that was void of soul altogether.

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Speaker 1: No soul, no heart, no effort, and Rock Purdy was

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Speaker 1: able to just stand and stand and stand, and like

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Speaker 1: I said, it was like watching one of the Colts

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Speaker 1: training camp practices where you sit there and you think,

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Speaker 1: oh man, this this quarterback looks unbelievable and then you've

492
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Speaker 1: got it. You know, your buddy sitting next to you goes,

493
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Speaker 1: there's no defense out there, man, it's a walkthrough. That's

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Speaker 1: what it looked like last night. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a horrific performance defensively and the Colts once again. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep using the line somebody said to me

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Speaker 1: perfect and a year that we thought was all about

498
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Speaker 1: an achilles tendon. Actually it's their achilles heel that once

499
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Speaker 1: again did him in a defense that was non existent

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Speaker 1: down the home stretch. Joining me now and feeling free

501
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Speaker 1: to disagree with any of that if he so chooses

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Speaker 1: a Stephen Holder on the Java House peel and poor

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Speaker 1: guest line Jake twenty five for twenty five percent off

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Speaker 1: at Java House dot com and Stevenholder of ESPN dot com.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I thought that was the worst Colts defensive

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Speaker 1: performance of the year, if not the last two. Your thoughts, that.

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Speaker 9: Was epically bad. Yeah, I liked that achilles heel, little

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Speaker 9: uh little thing there. I think that's exactly true. I

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Speaker 9: thought it was the defensive effort felt like I'm trying

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Speaker 9: to think of a you know, a reference point, a

511
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Speaker 9: little bit like that Jacksonville game to end the twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty one season, maybe that comes to mind. That was

513
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Speaker 9: the whole team that day, But but I think just defensively,

514
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Speaker 9: like no one made a play, no one made a stop.

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Speaker 9: It was it's gonna go down as I think one

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Speaker 9: of the one of the more memorable or maybe forgettable

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Speaker 9: defensive performances, and I think in a long long time

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Speaker 9: around here. I mean, it just it was it felt

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Speaker 9: like they had nothing to play for at times, and

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Speaker 9: that's just really disappointing. And I get it. Like those

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Speaker 9: cornerbacks out there, I'm gonna be honest with you, man,

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Speaker 9: they're awful. They're awful, all right. They shouldn't be out there.

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Speaker 9: Their practice squad level guys, and that is what it is.

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Speaker 9: So they had they had nothing really to work with there.

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Speaker 9: But at some point, you gotta compete, you gotta fight,

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Speaker 9: and they didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: But Steven, here's the thing. You know, this is is

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Speaker 1: a chicken and egg thing. I realize, but when you

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Speaker 1: have corners that are inexperienced or young or old or

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you can sometimes offset that if

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Speaker 1: you get any pass rush whatsoever, and they had none.

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Speaker 1: None he had all day. I mean, you could have

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Speaker 1: had their corners last night could have been Champ Bailey

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Speaker 1: and Charles Woodson or Dion Sanders and they would have

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Speaker 1: eventually broken down because there was pretty had all day.

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Speaker 6: That the.

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Speaker 1: To me, why is it that the Colts seemingly are

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Speaker 1: the last franchise in the NFL to figure out pass rush?

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Speaker 9: Well, I don't know what. I don't know what to

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Speaker 9: I don't know how to answer that question, I guess

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Speaker 9: is what I'm saying. But I I don't think I'm

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Speaker 9: surprised by it. I think we we knew that this

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Speaker 9: pass russ was going to be largely contingent on on

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Speaker 9: all these guys, you know, contributing across the board, because

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Speaker 9: they didn't have that one guy who could just go

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Speaker 9: get it and take over a game. And and the

547
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Speaker 9: problem is that it's been too intermittent among the whole group.

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Speaker 9: So like you might get one guy that goes off

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Speaker 9: and has a good night on one night, but you're

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Speaker 9: not getting that from across and across the board effort.

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Speaker 9: And that's what it was going to take. They said

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Speaker 9: this was going to be a group where it's it's

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Speaker 9: some was greater than its parts. I mean, I think

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Speaker 9: they have two primary parts that could individually, you know,

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Speaker 9: maybe threaten to take over a game, and as the

556
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Speaker 9: Forest Buckner who just got back from an injury that

557
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Speaker 9: was a really bad injury, more than people realize. And

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Speaker 9: then the other one is the layout to a lot

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Speaker 9: who I think is that a fine season? Like he's

560
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Speaker 9: gonna end up with like eight or nine sacks or something.

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Speaker 9: I think it's fine. But that's a guy who is

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Speaker 9: a complimentary guy with a good group around him. He's

563
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Speaker 9: not going to take over the game. And so they

564
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Speaker 9: just haven't had enough, Like they're just too intermittent from

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Speaker 9: those guys and it didn't work as planned.

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Speaker 1: Steven, I'm going to ask you about some people and

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me well, I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: ask specifics about them, I guess. Okay, I'll begin with this.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Philip Rivers? Well, okay, will Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers start two more games?

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Speaker 9: I think they lose to the Jaguars and he probably

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Speaker 9: does not start Week eighteen. That's a total speculation, but

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Speaker 9: that's my thought right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does Anthony Richardson get snaps this season?

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Speaker 9: I say no.

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Speaker 1: If Riley Leonard well, I guess Philip Rivers would be

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Speaker 1: there technically, right. I mean They're not going to have

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. He's not going to pack up his stuff

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Speaker 1: for the week left and head home. Right, He'll be

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines at the very least.

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Speaker 9: Right, I would presume he'd stick around and help Collins

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Speaker 9: whoever else is there. Yeah, I mean that's my assumption.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, the Shane Stiken. Do you believe that Shane

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Speaker 1: Styken returns next year?

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Speaker 9: Wow? I felt before last night I would have told

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Speaker 9: you eighty percent chance, maybe eighty five. I still think

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Speaker 9: it's likely, but I just think that if you lose

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Speaker 9: seven in a row down the stretch, I don't think

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Speaker 9: anybody is truly safe. So I say probably, but odds

590
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Speaker 9: are diminishing with every loss. Chris Ballard, same answer, same answer.

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Speaker 9: Just as an observer. Okay, look, this is I'm not

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Speaker 9: promising anybody anything here, but just as an observer looking

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Speaker 9: at what I see every day and being in that

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Speaker 9: building every day, I think Carly Ursay Gordon has been

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Speaker 9: on board with their plan, okay for the most part,

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Speaker 9: and it endorsed the things that they have done and

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Speaker 9: want to do. But the question then becomes, at what

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Speaker 9: point if at some point does she lose faith in

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Speaker 9: that plan and their ability to execute that plan. The

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Speaker 9: question is are we there yet? And I don't know,

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Speaker 9: because I will say this, this season just it breaks

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Speaker 9: all the rules of analysis. There is no rational analysis

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Speaker 9: you can apply to this season that makes sense. I've

604
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Speaker 9: never seen a season like this, and that's not a defense.

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Speaker 9: I'm just telling you that it is maybe terrible for

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Speaker 9: talk radio, but like, this is the most nuanced situation

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Speaker 9: I've maybe ever seen. You have two seasons in one,

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Speaker 9: a seven to one team on the front end, and

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Speaker 9: then on the back end a team that can't win

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Speaker 9: a game. I have never seen anything like it. And

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Speaker 9: I'm not begrudging people from being mad and that mad

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Speaker 9: as hell and wanting wanting ahead on a platter.

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Speaker 1: I get all that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I see the tweets people are, I mean,

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Speaker 9: they're angry as hell. But I also got to say,

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Speaker 9: like this this is we gotta take a step back

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Speaker 9: and very what the hell is this?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 9: What happened here? And I think she Carly Ersay Gordon

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Speaker 9: in particular, is that kind of person. She's gonna take

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Speaker 9: a step back and she's not gonna make a rass

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Speaker 9: decision because that's who she is. So I'm explaining it

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Speaker 9: to you as she will. She will analyze it.

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Speaker 1: I look at it this way, Steven, and I want

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Speaker 1: and here's what I've said, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: tell me if you think that they're you know, if

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Speaker 1: you could see it this way. I lean towards thinking

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Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard returns and also understanding why he would

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Speaker 1: return for twofold number one. I the only theoretically the

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Speaker 1: only people that would be interested, and I get it,

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Speaker 1: A job as a general manager in the National Football

632
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Speaker 1: League is incredibly coveted. But those that would most be

633
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Speaker 1: willing to take that on probably are those that are

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Speaker 1: still that's a dream job because it's an ascension for them.

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Speaker 1: They've not done it before. And because you don't have

636
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Speaker 1: a first round pick for the next two years, you

637
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Speaker 1: don't have total stability at quarterback, and there are still

638
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Speaker 1: a lot of question marks. And so therefore carl Orza Gordon,

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Speaker 1: I think would know that she probably if she's placing

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, would be replacing him not only with an

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Speaker 1: unknown for her, but for somebody, with somebody who the

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Speaker 1: position itself is the unknown. And I think that's a

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Speaker 1: double edged sword she doesn't want to go into. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense, No, it does make sense.

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Speaker 9: I would say also that I think the appeal of

646
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Speaker 9: the job it wouldn't be as appealing as people think.

647
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Speaker 9: And here's why, because I don't know what people think.

648
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Speaker 9: But I don't know that the job would be that

649
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 9: appealing because I look at Jacksonville and I get like

650
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 9: Jacksonville they rebooted this year, and Jacksonville was a very

651
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 9: interesting situation. I don't think anybody looked at that job

652
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 9: and said, well, that's that's the job. No one said that. However,

653
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 9: you could at least talk to yourself into saying, all right,

654
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 9: we got some assets, some money, and we have a

655
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Speaker 9: quarterback that if we can figure it out with this guy.

656
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Speaker 9: I mean, you know you're a Clemson guy, right, I

657
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 9: mean we know his pedigree, right, If you can just

658
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 9: figure it out, and now he's playing the best ball

659
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 9: seen them play, that that possibility was there was always

660
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Speaker 9: there here. I mean, are you really if you're if

661
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Speaker 9: you blow this up and you bring a new leadership,

662
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 9: head coach, general manager, are you going back to Daniel Jones?

663
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 9: Are they rubber stamping that new leadership? Are they rubber

664
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Speaker 9: stamping Daniel Jones often achilles injury, or are you dropping

665
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Speaker 9: a nuclear bomb in this entire building and starting over

666
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 9: and you are one of the worst teams in the

667
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Speaker 9: NFL next year, you want that job, go for it, buddy, right.

668
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Speaker 9: I think that's where they are. That's where they are

669
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Speaker 9: if they boot, if they reboot, And that's why I

670
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Speaker 9: think I think she tries one more time.

671
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Speaker 1: I think, Steven, that's why I think, Listen, I would

672
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Speaker 1: understand if Chris Ballard himself says, you know what, and

673
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Speaker 1: I just got done laying this all out, Stephen, next

674
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Speaker 1: season and next season, there is question. I mean, we're

675
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Speaker 1: assuming Daniel Jones comes back to Indianapolis, Okay, and I

676
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Speaker 1: think he I mean, I get it. But and now

677
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Speaker 1: his price tag maybe is not as expensive as it

678
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Speaker 1: would have been else wise. But you bring back Daniel Jones,

679
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: and you are assuming that you have same player, Daniel Jones,

680
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Speaker 1: and that you have it by say October. Well, at

681
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Speaker 1: that point you got Jonathan Taylor who would be twenty seven,

682
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: Pittman would be approaching thirty, Moley Cox over thirty, Nelson

683
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: approaching thirty, Ryman approaching thirty. At that point to Forrest Buckner.

684
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Speaker 1: So do you does Ballard if it's Ballard come back

685
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: and say, look, I'm I'm coming back. But I understand

686
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Speaker 1: I've got to do a not a control all delete,

687
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Speaker 1: complete reset, but at the very least like the Apple reboot,

688
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: and wait for the image to come back up. They're

689
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna have. They can't go through this with the same roster. Theoretically,

690
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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

691
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Speaker 9: Well, I think there would have to be like some

692
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Speaker 9: significant tweaks. I don't think it's a reboot necessarily. I

693
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 9: think defense, you're tweaking and maybe substantially tweaking, but you

694
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 9: also still have some guys. I mean, your offensive line

695
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 9: is intact. You have you have a good offensive line

696
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Speaker 9: to work with. I think, even even if we don't

697
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 9: see Braden Smith's return, I think you have a young

698
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 9: group there. I like Jalen Uh Jalen Travis a lot.

699
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Speaker 9: I think I think he is a legitimate fundamental piece

700
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Speaker 9: moving forward. For example at tackle. Uh he's played right

701
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 9: tack line left tackle in the past two weeks. Right,

702
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 9: So you have some you have some pieces, some young pieces,

703
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 9: but you also have some veterans that I think that

704
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Speaker 9: you you'd retain and then you're hoping that you can

705
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Speaker 9: get Sauce Gardener to play like Sauce Gardner for example.

706
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Speaker 9: Like I mean that I think the difference between them

707
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Speaker 9: being a viable team that could win a playoff game

708
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 9: and and what you see right now, I don't think

709
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 9: it's actually that much if you have good quarterback play,

710
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 9: which assumes a lot about Daniel Jones health, right, But

711
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 9: but it's it's not that far away. But the things

712
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 9: you're counting on are really important pieces that you have

713
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 9: to that we have to discuss, like is Daniel Jones

714
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 9: going to be Daniel Jones? Uh? Where? What is the

715
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 9: situation which Varius Awards for example?

716
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Speaker 2: Right?

717
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Speaker 9: Let mean if all these guys are out there and

718
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 9: you have the team that Chris Ballard intended to put

719
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 9: out there. I love that team, I do. I like

720
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 9: that team a lot. That's the team that was seven

721
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 9: and one, and I get and you can talk about competition.

722
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 9: I don't give a damn. They were one of the

723
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 9: best teams in the NFL. Are beating people by twenty

724
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 9: one points. That's a great team, right, so they I

725
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 9: think it makes more sense, It might make more sense

726
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 9: for them to try one more time to see if

727
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 9: they can recreate that than to blow it up and

728
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 9: have a two year rebuild with no quarterback, which is

729
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 9: a road to nowhere.

730
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Speaker 1: Frankly, Let's say hypothetically, Steven Holder is my guest. He's

731
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Speaker 1: on the Java House pelaport guest line, Java house dot com,

732
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: by the way, the website for Java House. Steven. Let's

733
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Speaker 1: just say hypothetically that Daniel Jones, I mean, knock on

734
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Speaker 1: wood here. I'm not gonna say he has a setback.

735
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Speaker 1: I don't want to put that in the universe. Let's

736
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: say Daniel Jones comes and says, look, guys, I feel good,

737
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: but my time is just a little off. I need

738
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Speaker 1: another month at the beginning of the year, and Anthony

739
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Speaker 1: Richardson is just.

740
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Speaker 9: Say, it's a tough injury.

741
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Speaker 1: We don't we don't even have correct we have a situation.

742
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 9: Right, It's a tough injury.

743
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Speaker 1: It is. And so Anthony Richardson is the curveball and

744
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: all of this. Do you believe Shane Styke and Chris

745
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: Ballard are one on the same page when it comes

746
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson, Not really.

747
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 9: I think I think Shane Styken moved on from Anthony

748
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 9: Richardson last year when he benched him, period, That's what

749
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Speaker 9: I think. Now, he didn't. They didn't trade him. They

750
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 9: didn't publicly, you know, say that we're moving on from

751
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 9: him for good. They said all those they said the

752
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 9: opposite of that, actually, right, but you benched your fourth

753
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 9: overall pick, you know, halfway through his second season. I mean,

754
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 9: what are we talking about here? Right? Like, what are

755
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 9: we talking about? I think I think it was Claire's

756
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 9: day at the point.

757
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me Richardson and I it's boy,

758
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: there's just so many variables there, Steven, right, because I

759
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: think that they would have liked to have the opportunity,

760
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: at the very least to showcase a little bit of

761
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: him for his trade value purpose, and now you don't

762
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: even have that being the case. Somebody asked me this question,

763
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: and I thought it was an interesting question. And you

764
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: feel free to tell me if it's the dumbest one

765
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: you've ever heard. But I thought it was an interesting question.

766
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Speaker 1: If Anthony Richardson now is in a situation where vision

767
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Speaker 1: prohibits him from moving forward at all as an NFL player,

768
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: could there be a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the

769
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: device that snapped his eye?

770
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Speaker 9: No, idea, I don't think so. I don't think that

771
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 9: is I don't think that's something that's even been discussed.

772
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 9: I would also say, so that would be my answer,

773
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 9: or first of all, I don't think anything like that

774
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 9: has been discussed that I'm aware of now. I would

775
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 9: also add that the vision issue is not unexpected like that.

776
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 9: It was a problem from the beginning in that right eye,

777
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 9: as I understand it, when this incident occurred, he had

778
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 9: very limited, if any vision in that right eye because

779
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 9: of the swelling and the trauma and all of that.

780
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 9: Right so it was explained to him that over time

781
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 9: this will come back and be back to normal. So

782
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 9: my understanding, and I think the assumption is that he

783
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 9: is still on that track and it is continually improving.

784
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 9: I mean, we've seen him in practice throwing the ball

785
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 9: around during individual drills, and he's throwing it fine. He

786
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 9: doesn't look like someone who is who is blinding and eye,

787
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 9: you know, so I have to assume that he has

788
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 9: number one, he has come a long way in terms

789
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 9: of the vision correcting itself, and number two, I think

790
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 9: that process continues. So I don't believe there's a lot

791
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 9: of concern that it won't come back to allow them

792
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 9: to play at an NFL level. But it's not like

793
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 9: we can just rubber stamp anything. When you talk about

794
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 9: vision and a quarterback.

795
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Speaker 1: Steven, Am I too cynical when I say that I

796
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: looked last night at a defense that looked to me

797
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: like their coaches lost them.

798
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 9: I mean cynical doesn't sound like you at all, But

799
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 9: I would say I was. I was very shocked by it.

800
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 9: I will tell you that. And to what would you

801
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 9: attribute it? If that was the case? To what would

802
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 9: we attribute it? I don't know. I mean, certainly you

803
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 9: know talent was was was a factor, is no question

804
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 9: about that. From what I know of Luanna Rumo and

805
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 9: how they feel about him, and and the fact that

806
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 9: he's very well respected. I just I don't think it

807
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 9: boiled down to he's lost them, just because I would

808
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 9: be surprised by that.

809
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: But at the.

810
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 9: Same time, you know, to to take your cynicism into

811
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 9: account and to give it some validity if you didn't

812
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 9: know any better and you watch that, I mean, that's

813
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 9: a fair question, right, Like, like these guys hate their coach, clearly,

814
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 9: that's what it looks like, right. I don't know, man,

815
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 9: I think you just wrong time, right right, wrong time

816
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 9: or excuse me, wrong wrong place, wrong time against the

817
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 9: wrong team. Kyle Shanahan just you know in his bag

818
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 9: those corners overmatched and no pass rush and it can

819
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 9: just unravel really quickly. You know, it really can. It

820
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 9: really can. And that's what you saw last night.

821
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Speaker 1: Stephen Holders my guest to ESPN dot com, where you

822
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: can read his work. Stephen, what are your Christmas plans?

823
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: By the way, not much?

824
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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, just the usual uh by other

825
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 9: people gifts and uh you know, watch them in joy them.

826
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Speaker 1: You know when you were a kid, what is the

827
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Speaker 1: Christmas gift that you look back upon now that you

828
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Speaker 1: most did your Like literally, you know each year when

829
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Speaker 1: you're a kid, there's like one thing you want, right

830
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, like I'm asked Santa for it.

831
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm all in. What is the one thing

832
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: more than anything else that you had the strongest desire

833
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: to ever get it for a Christmas?

834
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Speaker 9: Okay, So I would say two different years, I would

835
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 9: say a couple of things. Number One, I wanted the

836
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Speaker 9: BMX bike. I don't remember how old I was, but

837
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 9: I wanted a BMX bike. And I got it. You know,

838
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 9: I don't I think it was a huffy. Probably a huffy, right,

839
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 9: I think you know, we're the same age range. You

840
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 9: probably had one totally.

841
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

842
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 9: So and of course I am from South Florida. So

843
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 9: in my time, my childhood, at least, you know, in

844
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 9: sunny Florida, Christmas Day, everybody wanted a bike. So Christmas

845
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 9: afternoon you're out there riding bikes. That was the thing.

846
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 9: So so I got that bike one year, and I

847
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 9: think there was another year I wanted the G I

848
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 9: Joe the I think it was the F fourteen jet.

849
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 9: I think I remember getting that one year, and that

850
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 9: was like the best because G I Joe was like

851
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 9: the that was the show at the time, the cartoon.

852
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 9: If you don't, if you've not seen Gi Joe, for

853
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 9: those whipper snappers out there and I don't know, go

854
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 9: find you, Go find you the YouTube dot com.

855
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Did did you get the bike and the G I Joe?

856
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: Did Santa deliver?

857
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 9: I did? These were separate years, but Santa was good

858
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 9: to me. Yeah, came through.

859
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: So what we know is Santa was not a twenty

860
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: twenty five Colts defender because when the holiday season came

861
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Santa delivered right right.

862
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 9: Well, although I could argue that they were actually in

863
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 9: the giving spirit that defense.

864
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: So that is a good way of saying it. That

865
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: is an excellent point. Yes, that's a very good point.

866
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: Is Alec peers his Alec Pierce played him himself into

867
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: big money elsewhere and perhaps even looking at the situation

868
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: and saying, why would I stay here if I can

869
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: go into a situation with the quarterback that I know

870
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: who it's going to be week in and week out.

871
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 9: Okay, Well, the thing we know for sure is that

872
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 9: he has played himself into big money. I think this

873
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 9: is maybe not the most popular thing to say around

874
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 9: the Colts facility, but I think he is the Colts

875
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 9: number one receiver. Yes I said it, okay, And people

876
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 9: can do whatever they want with that information. So I

877
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 9: think he's the most versatile receiver they have for sure,

878
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 9: And so I would say that's worth a lot. He

879
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 9: is going to be very valuable and it's going to

880
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 9: cost a lot more than people maybe even realize. I

881
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: believe now he loves Indianapolis, he loves Daniel Jones. But

882
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 9: the the question becomes, what does that look like next year?

883
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 9: I mean who's leading the team, Who's who's signing the players,

884
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 9: who's the quarterback? You know, how committed to resigning Alec Pearce?

885
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 9: Are they all those questions I think are still on

886
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 9: the table. I will tell you that there have been

887
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 9: discussions between Alec Pearce's representation and the Colts in the past,

888
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 9: and the indication was that we probably can't afford him.

889
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: Now.

890
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 9: That was before this season, before he took over and

891
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 9: became the player that he has been. So his value

892
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 9: now to them might be such that they have to

893
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 9: go beyond what they wanted to spend. But I don't know,

894
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 9: it's too early to really predict how any of that

895
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 9: is going to go. But he has definitely played himself

896
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 9: into a massive contract.

897
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, Steven, here we go, Santa's flying around right now,

898
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: right and you would think, well, you know, it's amazing.

899
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I think he does a lot of it just in

900
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: the one night, right. I mean, like, you know, although

901
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: we're two days out, he's got to be Now Australia

902
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: is ahead of us, right, so he's got to be

903
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be headed down.

904
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 9: Like it's going to be Christmas Eve somewhere.

905
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's heading down there pretty soon here, so let's

906
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: just say that the ways is really good for him

907
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: and he avoids some traffic jams and whatever else. So

908
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: he arrives to Indianapolis a little bit early and he

909
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: so he is then able to visit the home of

910
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: the following people and ask them specifically, I am Santa.

911
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: I am capable of it all, so I am going

912
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: to deliver what truly, but I'm Santa. So, little boys

913
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: and girls, I know if you're lying. I know if

914
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: you're naughty, I know if you're nice. So if you

915
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: tell me something and you're lying, I'm going to know it.

916
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: So you got to be completely transparent. It's like a

917
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: spell of transparency he puts on these people. But he's

918
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: going to stop by the house of a couple of

919
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: people and once they're over there, shock, He's going to

920
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: ask him, what is it in regards to your profession

921
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: that you need me to deliver for you? Down the chimney,

922
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: we will begin with Chris Ballard. What does Chris Ballard

923
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: ask him to.

924
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 9: Deliver man health for his team health? Okay, because he

925
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 9: designed a lot of players for a lot of money,

926
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 9: and a lot of them didn't play.

927
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: Now. The other thing too, is Santa as jolly and

928
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: as wonderful as Santa is, and he has the ability

929
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: to bring you a BMX bike in the middle of Florida.

930
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: Santa's wonderful and he's a miracle ripper. But Santa also,

931
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to many people, Santa does have one nitpick rule

932
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: where when he talks to people that know one another,

933
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: they can't ask for the same thing. He can only

934
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: deliver it to one per person. Right. So therefore, he

935
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: goes to Shane Steichen's house and he says, Shane Stiken,

936
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: what would you like? What does Shane Styken say?

937
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 9: Huh a franchise quarterback? And I don't know if they

938
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 9: have that guy or not, but he wants a franchise quarterback. Okay,

939
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 9: he can sure get to five hundred with any old quarterback,

940
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 9: but that's.

941
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: Not the goal, Uh, Carli orsee Gordon.

942
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 9: H a new team. No, that's a great question. I

943
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 9: don't know. I think she I think she just wants

944
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 9: I think she wants wins. She asked for wins, that's

945
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 9: what because she's she's a competitor. And I think ultimately

946
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 9: that is going to have to guide her, and so

947
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 9: she and Santa will have to pow wow and figure

948
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 9: out how to how to get that done.

949
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I think, okay, what about this? Santa says, I can

950
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: deliver you the wins, young Carly, but in doing so,

951
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: I've got to make some changes within the building itself.

952
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: It's Carli cool with that.

953
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 9: I think she is. Yes, that's ultimately the goal.

954
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: You know what? I think Carli Ersa Gordon would ask

955
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: for what's that guitars because she just sold all of them.

956
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: She didn't have any left. She just needs a guitar, right.

957
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they've sold them yet though, right, so.

958
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 9: My understanding is that they are with the auction house.

959
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 9: So h yeah, there's a there's a big pile of

960
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 9: guitars sitting somewhere about to get sold for a whole

961
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 9: lot of money.

962
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: Do you think there are people that are like thinking

963
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: they're going to be sneaky, like, you know what, I'm

964
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna get on that thing when nobody else is looking,

965
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna swipe away Prince's guitar for two hundred

966
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: and twenty five bucks. Good look, I do. I tried

967
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: doing that with watches. Like every once in a while, I

968
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: get on something and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm

969
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: in the totally in the running for this, like you know,

970
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: vintage watch. And then at the eleventh hour, all of

971
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm like, oh boy, yeah, now I see

972
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: what happened. Everybody else is teen to it there waiting

973
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: until the eleventh hour.

974
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 9: That's going to be the case here. Yeah, I think,

975
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 9: and I also believe ultimately they would like to sell

976
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 9: this thing in mass I don't think that's going to

977
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 9: be possible, but certainly, like maybe pieces of it, not individually,

978
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 9: but like you know, hey, here's there's twenty five amazing

979
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 9: historic guitars or something. I don't know how it's gonna.

980
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: Work, but well, well, Steve, and I know you have listen. Listen.

981
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 9: It's got to be worth at least a couple a

982
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 9: couple of good contracts. I would think you would.

983
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Say, there's that, Stephen, you have a son and a daughter,

984
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: both adults living elsewhere.

985
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 9: Correct, son is but daughter is still sixteen.

986
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, I'm sorry. I was thinking she was

987
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: away college. Cool, but who's counting either way. My point being,

988
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I certainly hope that everybody is able to be under

989
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: one roof when Santa does bring everything and eats the cookies,

990
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: and you mentioned health for the cold's health to you

991
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: and your family as well, for a safe and prosperous

992
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: not only Christmas, but New Year as well. I do

993
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: appreciate all the time that you lend to this radio

994
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: station over the course of the year.

995
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 9: All right, well, sing to you and yours and you

996
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 9: know where to find me in in the year.

997
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, at a Pacer game, right, that's where.

998
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 9: Well that we can that can be arranged.

999
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Steven, appreciate a happy New Year

1000
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: and merry Christmas to you. All right, see you soon,

1001
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Steven Holder who joins us, and again we'll probably talk

1002
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: to me between now and New Year's I guess. But

1003
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: no show tomorrow or on Christmas Day on this radio station.

1004
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: We will be back with everybody on Friday when we

1005
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: do return. Some great submissions last night after the Colts

1006
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: defense basically submitted then it was, and yes there's Pacers

1007
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: news to get to. Speaking of that, but I want

1008
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: to get into the comments that people shared with me

1009
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: of when I asked fifteen words are fewer your thoughts

1010
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: on the Colts season. Some great answers I'll share them

1011
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: with you next ton of replies last night when I

1012
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: asked the question, tell me in fifteen words or fewer

1013
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the twenty twenty five Colts through fifteen games.

1014
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll read some of those better replies here in a

1015
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: moment before I do that. Here's an interesting question that

1016
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: I observed yesterday, and I get this. I still and

1017
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I do do online shopping. I don't want people to

1018
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: think I'm a complete but I do still go and

1019
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: buy things in brick and mortar stores, Okay, and it

1020
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: does necessitate for me to although I do enjoy it.

1021
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: I enjoy the as I mentioned before, going to the

1022
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: mall at Christmas time, and it feels Christmasy to me.

1023
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: But last night the Colts wore their Indiana Night's uniforms

1024
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, I mean, it is nighttime

1025
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: and they were wearing their night uniforms. But when I

1026
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: was a kid, one of the real treats was and

1027
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Kurt Gerald, who's in for Eddie Garrison today, Kurt, you

1028
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: can fill me in on this if this ever happened

1029
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: with you. When I was a kid, it was a

1030
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: real treat. Every so often my mom would maybe do

1031
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 1: it every couple of months where we would say what's

1032
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: for dinner and she'd say, we're doing breakfast for dinner.

1033
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's the best. So you're with me on this, right.

1034
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: I will make a three egg omelet, ham and cheese

1035
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: for dinner at night.

1036
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like when you're a kid, you know we're

1037
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna have pancakes for dinner. I mean, it was like

1038
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: a real treat, right changer. So I'm cool with all

1039
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: of that, But I'm curious of this before I get

1040
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: to the tweets. When I was shopping I went yesterday.

1041
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: When we got off the air, I had I Typically

1042
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: by this time of year, I am well done. I'm

1043
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: usually done gift wrap, good to go, like a week

1044
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: to go. But there's been a lot going on this

1045
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: year and so I've I've been a little bit delayed.

1046
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: So yesterday I had several things to go get and

1047
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: at one point I was standing in a store and

1048
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: it was Mayhem in there, right Mayhem. But I'm standing

1049
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: in the store and I looked around and I thought,

1050
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm the only one here not wearing pajamas, Like, when

1051
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: did we get to now a place culturally speaking? Where

1052
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: like I saw a couple. It was a guy and

1053
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: his wife, girlfriend whatever, and they both were wearing a

1054
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: cookie mont fleece pajama pants and she had on slippers,

1055
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: literally huge slippers, and he had on crocs. And I'm thinking,

1056
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would wear that to get

1057
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: the mail let alone. It's comfortable, sure, I get it.

1058
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: But then I just started observing and I literally don't know.

1059
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: And maybe I've never sounded older in my life, but

1060
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: when did this become a thing where everybody's just walking

1061
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: out of the house wearing whatever they woke up in.

1062
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I didn't know you were shopping in

1063
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 5: my neck of the woods in beech Rove though.

1064
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean I was just in Beech Grove the other night.

1065
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: By the way. It was awesome night. I was the people,

1066
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: they were great, fabulous, had a great time. Speaking of that,

1067
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to be this afternoon from five until seven

1068
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: with Mick Ultra our Mini Hoops Challenge al Emporium Castleton.

1069
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Would love to see you from five until seven tonight.

1070
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: But I literally was like, when did this happen?

1071
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 5: You know?

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: When I was in high school. I'm not going to

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: lie to you. It was a trend there you'd wear

1074
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: surgical pants. I did that, get it? But I mean

1075
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: grown adults walking around looking like they're having a slumber

1076
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: party and the big oversized like you know, Kermit the

1077
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: Frog and Miss Piggy Slippers. To me, that would be

1078
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: difficult just to walk around. I wouldn't be able to shop.

1079
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 5: I'd be too focused on what people were wearing.

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: Also, while I'm on the subject, I've got to say

1081
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: the customer service. I had to get one thing done

1082
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: at the UPS store in Noblesville and I was in

1083
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: there and the three people working and the Noblesville UPS

1084
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: store next to the Kroger. That's not all I can

1085
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know any more specifics than that,

1086
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: but it was unbelievable how fast, efficient and friendly they

1087
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: were working. I mean I was like, this is impressive.

1088
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: And then I had to go to Nordstrom, and the

1089
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: customer service at Nordstrom, I'm so clueless. I'm walking around

1090
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: and you know, they just say to me like, oh,

1091
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: can we help you? And I'm like, do I look

1092
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: that lost? But the customer service at Nordstrom is the

1093
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: krem de la krem. Okay, here's my question. Asked it

1094
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: yesterday as the game ended, as I have done for

1095
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: each and every game this year. Tell me in fifteen words,

1096
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: are fewer your thoughts on the twenty twenty five Colts

1097
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: through fifteen games. The most common answer, obviously was just

1098
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: great first half, terrible second half, but for both a

1099
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of times, for the games and for the season.

1100
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: This from Anthony Carly for the good of the franchise,

1101
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: must see beyond the injuries and clean house. This from

1102
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: Mark and Arcadia. They blackballed Anthony Richardson coach and GM

1103
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: need to go and do a hard reset. My buddy

1104
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: Chris fully period cooked period mo in Ohio, same story,

1105
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: different season, Colts of the definition of insanity, over and over. Yes,

1106
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: this from j Marsh. I've got all day to tell you,

1107
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,479
Speaker 1: but I'm limited to fifteen words. The pass rush still

1108
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: hasn't reached reached me after my speech. Quitty pay is

1109
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: still violently locked up in his tackles, fighting to make

1110
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 1: his way to the quarterback. But at least he held

1111
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: his ground enough that the offensive line isn't downfield. Wait

1112
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: a minute, that's more than fifteen words, Yes it is.

1113
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: Who are we taking with the eighteenth pick? Oh wait, yeah,

1114
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: that's right. For eight years Ballard showed us what he

1115
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: is capable of and we never believed him. That from

1116
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: Eric Tom lots of good players, too many questions at

1117
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: key positions. Time for a new GM. This from David

1118
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: old Man River kept flowing and throwing. The defense was

1119
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: a broken dam. That's correct. Like I said, the Colts

1120
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: went with what was old in Philip Rivers, but it

1121
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: was the same old that did him in the defense

1122
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: collapsing at the end of the year. This from Jaylaw,

1123
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: It's had more ups and downs than the beast at

1124
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: King's Island. Jaylaw, by the way, who I have the

1125
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: utmost respect for. Jaylaw has in a friend of this station,

1126
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: friend of JMV. Huge IU football fan. Jaylaw has been

1127
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: very transparent with his cancer journey and has done frequent updates,

1128
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: and his most recent update last week was that he

1129
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: got a scan that was not necessarily what they were

1130
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: looking for. But he is maintaining the same Jaylaw optimism

1131
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: and is a diehard fan of the Indiana Hoosiers fighting

1132
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: football team. I hope that he is able to enjoy

1133
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: every minute of that Rose Bowl and hopefully the first

1134
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: of three wins for Indiana. But most importantly, Jaylaw is

1135
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: to be commended for not only being just one of

1136
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: those guys that's a friend to everybody he meets and

1137
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: a positive, upbeat guy, but one that continues to show

1138
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: and lead the example of perseverance and positivity when those

1139
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: things aren't necessarily looking back at him. And so he

1140
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: is one that absolutely I know I joined JMV and

1141
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: saying I wish him the very best of a merry Christmas.

1142
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: This from Boiler Tad. Where's Tim Bragg at the postseason

1143
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: press conference? So we can get him with a playoffs?

1144
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: That is indeed correct, that's a deep cut. Tim Bragg

1145
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: was the one that asked the question that led to

1146
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: Jim Mora's famous playoff rant during the same press conference

1147
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: that had this nugget. And then right after that, Tim's like, well,

1148
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: you probably gotta went out to win to get the

1149
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: playoffs at that playoffs? Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I

1150
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: would win a game. Let's win another game. Jeff Morrow

1151
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: was the absolute best. Scott Agnes joins us fifteen minutes

1152
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: from now. I'll read you more of these over the

1153
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: course of the show. Scott Agerson fifteen PACER's news to

1154
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: talk about, including another injury for the Blue and Gold.

1155
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: We'll discuss in fifteen. Kurt Jerald's spinning all the hits here.

1156
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: You know this is Wham, of course, George Michael Andrew Ridgley. Kurt,

1157
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: I would assume that Wham is not within your normal

1158
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: musical wheelhouse. Correct and just no, just the song, George Michael.

1159
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: It's one of the most fascinating characters. Character is the

1160
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: wrong word people in music. Based on I've Listen Without

1161
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Prejudice is one of the more underappreciated albums. Here is

1162
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: a Jake Query fun fact. Jake Query fun Fact. I

1163
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: love Guns n' Roses. I've always said Guns n' Roses

1164
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: my favorite band ever. I love Oasis, love them that.

1165
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: Going to see Oasis in July with my cousin in Manchester,

1166
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 1: England is something that I will literally cherish for forever.

1167
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Everything about it was amazing, the concert that,

1168
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: the vibe, the energy, all of it. One of the

1169
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: best weekends of my life. Oasis, I love Public Enemy,

1170
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: love them, the Ghetto Boys. I can go word for

1171
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: word with the Gutta Boys. Base love that. While Era

1172
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: Music love it. But George Michael, as I've gone back

1173
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: and done just more like listening to George Michael and

1174
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: reading about him and things like that. Was one of

1175
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: the most naturally talented musical ears and writers and feel

1176
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,919
Speaker 1: for music of anybody that we have seen in our lifetime.

1177
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: And that song from Wham is pretty cheesy, as were

1178
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of Wham songs. But he had an angelic

1179
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: voice and could mix music really well. But the thing

1180
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:48,440
Speaker 1: about George Michael, to me, that is the most impressive.

1181
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: I read an article about George Michael, who passed away

1182
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, probably six years ago, if I had

1183
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: to guess the year, but I remember it was on

1184
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: a Christmas Day. And when George Michael passed, his net

1185
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: worth was believed to be at about twenty percent what

1186
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: it I'm going to say should have been. He gave

1187
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: away like eighty percent of his net worth. It's believed

1188
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: they believe that he may have given away upward of

1189
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars. Because George Michael later in his life.

1190
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: When I say later in his life, he wasn't an

1191
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: old man, but before he passed he was kind of reclusive.

1192
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: But he would read papers, scour the internet, whatever it

1193
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: may be, and anytime that he saw stories of people

1194
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: that were in plight or in need of help. He

1195
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: would make anonymous donations. And there are countless stories around

1196
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom and the United States and people that

1197
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: had medical bills or a fire or whatever else and

1198
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like a donation came through and

1199
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: they're like, what in the world, And it was George

1200
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: Michael was the one that was behind all of it.

1201
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: I just always thought that was super cool for a

1202
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: guy that had his fair share of misunderstandings about him

1203
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: during his life. Pacers and Action tonight they are taking

1204
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: on wait for it, the Milwaukee Bucks, Miles Turner back

1205
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: in the mix tonight and last night the Pacers right now,

1206
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean this is obviously now

1207
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: we're at a point in the season where we have

1208
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of what's not going to happen

1209
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: and the real frustrating thing for Indiana. And maybe it's

1210
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: a good thing that they have gone through a year

1211
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: without Halliburton. That's afforded them the opportunity to sit back

1212
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: and just assess. But we are going to and Scott

1213
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: Agne is going to join us just a couple of

1214
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 1: minutes from now. They've got to start making some serious

1215
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: decisions regarding Jeris Walker and Benda Nickmathern notably, and both

1216
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: of them are still very young, and Walker in particular

1217
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: is really you forget how young he is. And Jeris

1218
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: Walker the unfortunate thing here I go back to again,

1219
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: it's about where you were drafted and how you were acquired.

1220
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: Because of the investment they put in Jeris Walker, meaning

1221
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: a top five pick invested to acquire him for that reason,

1222
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: you anticipate or expect that that means he's going to

1223
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: be a player, and he is a he shows flashes

1224
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: of it, and ultimately, if he's a guy that can

1225
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: simply be a steady, inconsistent eighth man, if he can

1226
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: ultimately be a guy that plays the level of minutes

1227
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: and the kind of contribution or difference make that say

1228
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: Obi Toppin did, then that would be good. But it's

1229
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: just so wildly inconsistent. And because of where and how

1230
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: he was acquired, you expect that he was going to

1231
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: be a guy that was a starter or sixth man,

1232
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: and the same would be said for Benetic Mathern. Mathering

1233
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: to me is the one that really is frustrating and

1234
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: polarizing because one moment you think like, Okay, there he is,

1235
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: that's the guy, and then the next he has a

1236
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: game where he is just completely off. And when Matherin's bad,

1237
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: he's really bad. When he's good, he's pretty good, but

1238
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: when he's bad, he's really bad. And I still maintain

1239
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: I've never been more convinced of it. And this is

1240
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: where the Pacers might be hurt a little bit. In

1241
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: a perfect world, Matherin is or was, the player that

1242
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: you use to flip into a Turner replacement. So you

1243
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: trade him for a Turner replacement. In a perfect world,

1244
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: you then use your draft pick, which they brilliantly got

1245
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: back last year during the finals, and nobody at the

1246
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: time thought anything of it. But that's going to be

1247
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: a high pick. You use that pick to draft a

1248
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: Matherin replacement walker, you know, if you can flip that

1249
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: into something great. But I think that's where they stand now.

1250
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: The question is you wonder what Matherin's trade value is

1251
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: going to be because he has been so inconsistent. But

1252
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes will join us about five minutes now. I

1253
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: want to get back into the Colts a little bit,

1254
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: and then Scott Agnet's going to join its fieldhouse files,

1255
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison putting together the mix Colts Radio Network, Matt Taylor,

1256
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: Rick Venturi. A couple of clips there from Jim Mora,

1257
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: won from the Diddley Pooh speech when he was with

1258
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: the Saints. The other the famous playoffs rant where the

1259
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: Colts had just lost to the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

1260
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Jim Mora in that rant

1261
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: basically summarized exactly what I thought about the Colts defensively

1262
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: last night. It did. And here's the thing, Scott Agnes

1263
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: is coming up just about six minutes from now. Get

1264
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: into the Pacers. But I wanted to touch on the

1265
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: Colts one more time with this. What happened last night

1266
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium was a disappointment, but it was

1267
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: also an embarrassment. I was embarrassed for them. I was embarrassed,

1268
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: and I was disappointed in their holiday season. In this

1269
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: the holiday season where we should be getting together and

1270
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: celebrating great things. And there are great traditions, as I

1271
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in Indianapolis at the holidays, the great Bronze

1272
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Cherub that sits atop the Lisentirs clock and shows up

1273
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night and magically disappears on Christmas Eve the

1274
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: Soldiers and Sailors Monument and the Stream of Lights, the

1275
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: Circle of Lights to celebrate and indicate that the city

1276
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: is coming together for the holidays. It's a great tradition.

1277
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: The Yule Tide is a fabulous tradition presented by ae

1278
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: Is Indiana right down on the circle now the Carmel

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: Christmas Market's wonderful and unfortunately one of the one of

1280
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: the traditions at the holidays for the last handful of

1281
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: years has been the defense of the Indianapolis Colts completely

1282
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: collapsing down the stretch. And what was disappointing last night

1283
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: was it all came to fruition for them because the

1284
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: Colts have spent a number of years now just kicking

1285
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: that can down the road at the quarterback position, and

1286
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard kept kicking that quarterback can down the road.

1287
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: At one point he could have drafted a quarterback, but

1288
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: they thought they had the guy in Carson Wentz. There

1289
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: were a number of different things they traded. They mortgaged

1290
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: their future instead of drafting a quarterback. They sent away

1291
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: a first round pick to San Francisco for DeForest Buckner,

1292
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: who's been a really good player. No complaints about DeForest Buckner,

1293
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: a pros pro for sure, But you kne who they

1294
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: could have selected that year in the first round. A

1295
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: guy named Justin Herbert who was so promising that the

1296
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: Chargers took him and thus parted ways with their legendary

1297
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: quarterback Philip Rivers, who then came to Indianapolis. But the

1298
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: Colts when they brought in Philip Rivers and saw that

1299
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: there was still some fuel left in the tank, they

1300
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't do enough background to know whether they're getting They

1301
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: were going to get him for two years instead of one,

1302
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: and he just wanted to go for one. Now, eventually

1303
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: they'd get year two out of him, and it would

1304
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: be now when they brought a forty four year old

1305
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: quarterback to come out there in what almost felt like

1306
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: a novelty act. But at least it made things interesting.

1307
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: So Philip Rivers goes out and everybody's tuning in half

1308
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: snickering about it. And you know what in that game,

1309
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: when Jim Morra was talking about that San Francisco forty

1310
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: nine Ers game where he said that was a disgraceful performance,

1311
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: Jim Morra led his press conference that day by saying well,

1312
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: let me start by saying this, don't blame that loss

1313
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: on the defense, all right, because he was defending his

1314
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio at that time. Don't blame that

1315
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: loss last night on Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers, at the

1316
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: age of forty four, a guy that's old, a guy

1317
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: that's probably tired, went out there and did everything you

1318
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: could possibly ask for. You and his receivers played well,

1319
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,440
Speaker 1: and that offense was fine, and Philip Rivers was energetic,

1320
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,440
Speaker 1: he was engaged, he was a leader, he was invested.

1321
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: It was the defense that was a total disgrace. They

1322
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: were old, they were tired, they were checked out, and

1323
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: they let Rock Purdy, who had been the two hundred

1324
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: and sixty second selection in the NFL draft, sit back

1325
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: there and do whatever he wanted. And it showed to

1326
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard and the rest of the world that you

1327
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: can have a quarterback that you draft with the last

1328
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and you could make him a

1329
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: good quarterback if he has time and if you have

1330
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: depth around him. And he threw last night to a

1331
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: tight end that he hadn't thrown two since like Week three,

1332
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: because his starting tight end had been hurt but the

1333
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: Niners have depth and Purdy had time. Because the one

1334
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: area that the Colts have continued to build and build

1335
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: and invest and invest is pass rush and it's still

1336
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: totally non existent. And they didn't have pass rush last night.

1337
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: But more so, they had no heart. And I felt

1338
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: bad for people that sacrificed their time during the holidays.

1339
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: That could have been out shopping, that could have been

1340
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 1: out at a corporate party. You could have been spending

1341
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: time or getting ready to travel to go over the

1342
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: river and through the woods to grandmother's house. And instead

1343
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: they sat there and they watched that defense with no heart,

1344
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: no effort, no idea, no clue, no discipline, and no

1345
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: game plan. That defense last night, to quote Jim Mora,

1346
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: that was a disgraceful performance. Disgraceful and Philip rivers deserve

1347
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: better and the buying public deserve better. And now, as

1348
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about for the last two hours, there are

1349
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: question marks as to where they go from here. But

1350
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: last night, defensively speaking, the Indianapolis Colts and now I

1351
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: know players say, you know, they don't read, they don't listen,

1352
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: whatever else, but they're always seemingly fueled and driven by

1353
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: media that says things wrong and incorrectly. You know what

1354
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: we said wrong and incorrectly all year long is that

1355
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: we thought this team had the depth to make a

1356
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: difference in overcome injuries like San Francisco has done, like

1357
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: other franchises have done. They don't have depth, and last

1358
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: night they had no heart, no effort, and no clue.

1359
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: That was a terrible defensive performance. Terrible, and I feel

1360
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: bad for Philip Rivers because he deserved better. He simply

1361
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: did Pacers last night, led then game got away from him.

1362
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson got hurt. There's question as to whether or

1363
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: not that was intentional, whether or not it was not.

1364
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson left with the concussion. Rick Carlyle has said

1365
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: that he thinks it could be serious. But they're in

1366
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: action tonight taking on the Bucks at the Fieldhouse Miles

1367
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Turner's return again. I don't think that they'll be doing

1368
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: a video for Myles Turner. And by the way, leading

1369
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: up to the game from five until seven o'clock tonight.

1370
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Bucks, if you want to go see

1371
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: them play in Milwaukee in this game rematch in February,

1372
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: we have the chance for you to do that. Come

1373
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: out for a Mini Hoops Challenge at alm Porium tonight

1374
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: from five until seven o'clock. Get the high score you're entered,

1375
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: and in February we're going to send you along with

1376
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: a hotel voucher from our friends at Mick Ultra and

1377
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: Zinc distributing five until seven tonight al Emporium in Castleton.

1378
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: Joining me now on the Java House Peel at Port

1379
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: guest line he is with Fieldhouse Files. Scott Agnes joins

1380
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: the show. Scott, let's begin with this the Isaiah Jackson

1381
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: injury last night. I saw him walking off after the fact.

1382
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: But now Rick Carlisle last night had said that there

1383
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: was concern perhaps concussion. Do we know what the latest

1384
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: is in that?

1385
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, the latest is he was diagnosed with a concussion.

1386
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 6: Has already Jake been ruled out for tonight's game against

1387
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 6: the Bucks, and it makes you wonder about his status

1388
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 6: too moving forward with another back to back coming up

1389
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 6: this weekend, but they'll have the next two days between games.

1390
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 6: But it's even more difficult for them to take at

1391
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 6: the moment because Tony Bradley last week fractured the tip

1392
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 6: of his right thumb. So that's why they brought in

1393
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 6: James Wiseman. So now Bradley's limited, we know Isaiah Jackson's

1394
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 6: so they're rarely down to Jay Huff and James Wiseman.

1395
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: So Wiseman was on a ten day I would assume

1396
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: that becomes a twenty day now right.

1397
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 6: You would assume it will expire before the next game,

1398
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,440
Speaker 6: so they'll have to make at least one more transaction

1399
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 6: before Friday.

1400
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Scott one of the things to me that's been frustrating.

1401
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: And I get that you're going without all you know,

1402
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: you're going into this without all pieces around them, But

1403
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Nimhard, Jeris Walker been at Maden, those three, the

1404
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: consistency or lack thereof, to me, has been frustrating. I

1405
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: think nim Hart is another one that has struggled with consistency.

1406
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: You agree or disagree, I.

1407
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 6: Would agree, but I put Matherin and Nimhart in a

1408
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 6: category of giving it them all.

1409
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 5: They're all despite their physical.

1410
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 6: Limitations, meaning they're not healthy, and they're battling and they

1411
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 6: need help from everybody else. And so of those three,

1412
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 6: Walker is the one that really strikes me. This is

1413
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 6: a breakout type year he could have. The opportunity is

1414
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 6: obviously there, and he's only getting fifteen minutes because that's

1415
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 6: really all he earns is right now.

1416
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: And last night again, I mean, I don't know. If

1417
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Walker was over, he might have had a field goal,

1418
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: but he just I I Scott, what is it that

1419
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 1: is missing? I guess I would ask, because at times

1420
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: he looks in flow and he looks comfortable, and he

1421
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: has you know, he's a bigger body. But at the

1422
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: same time, you know he can play on the outside,

1423
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: he can at times have touch, but then it's like

1424
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: things just go too fast for him. What is it

1425
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: that's missing?

1426
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think your last point is the number one

1427
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 6: thing is his mind gets racing and then sometimes maybe

1428
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 6: his mind gets ahead of his body and whether he overthinks,

1429
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 6: you know, should he take.

1430
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: This three or not?

1431
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 6: Or what should he do when he puts it on

1432
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,480
Speaker 6: the floor. To me, it's the decision making and overthinking.

1433
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 6: I think out there and you in some of it

1434
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 6: is understandable, right, he sees what we're talking about. There's

1435
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 6: this opportunity he needs to prove himself. He was disappointed

1436
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 6: not to be eligible for the finals last year due

1437
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 6: to injury, trying to make up for lost time, but

1438
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 6: it just hasn't. It hasn't played out as any of

1439
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 6: us thought, like all those things that we highlighted during

1440
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 6: the draft process which made him an obvious fit for

1441
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 6: this franchise, and all the things they talked about, his

1442
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 6: defensive versatility, his length, his defense, his three point shooting.

1443
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 6: Really all that's shown is is the consistency I think

1444
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 6: from his three point shot, although last night he was

1445
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 6: over four. But it seems like he's had to adapt,

1446
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 6: certainly playing a different defense than what he did at Houston,

1447
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 6: where he could kind of you know, it's just entirely different.

1448
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 6: But here, you're right, Jacob, He's the one to me

1449
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 6: that has just not elevated his game to the level

1450
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 6: we thought, to the point where I think Johnny Furfey's

1451
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 6: surpassed him and he's a year behind him.

1452
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Furfee, I know that fans love Furfey because

1453
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: of the dunks, right like in Summer League and that

1454
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But Furfy's another one that you can

1455
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: kind of see now the game starting to slow down

1456
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: for him a little bit. And I thought initially he

1457
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: looked like he was playing also like a little oversped

1458
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: But in talking with the Pacers, they love not only

1459
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: his length, but the fact that he can be quick

1460
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: release and defensively has a little bit of length about him.

1461
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: What is the ceiling for Johnny Furfey.

1462
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I go back to like Mike Dunleavy. That's the

1463
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 6: comparison I like to use for Forfere And you got

1464
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 6: to remember.

1465
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 5: Too, he's like he came in as a nineteen year.

1466
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 6: Old new to the States and spent one year at Kansas,

1467
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 6: So there's going to be more of a growth curve

1468
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 6: and more adaptability necessary, I think for a guy like him.

1469
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 6: But now in this year, you're totally right, I think

1470
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 6: have slowed down. I think he knows a lot more

1471
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 6: of what Rick Carlisle and the staff are asking from him,

1472
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 6: and he's more confident in.

1473
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 5: His abilities, and I think you see that play out.

1474
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 6: The only thing that has held him back to this

1475
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 6: point has been that ankle injury that he suffered very

1476
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 6: early in the season.

1477
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 5: Maybe even Game one.

1478
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 6: Then he was out for a month, and he came

1479
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 6: back and then kind of tweaked it this past week

1480
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 6: and it's now having to play through that and that's

1481
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 6: all obviously a mental hurdle when these players suffer injuries,

1482
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 6: is can they get to their spots and make the

1483
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 6: same type of moves when one of your limbs and

1484
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 6: his ankle is not completely healthy.

1485
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is my guest Fieldhouse Files where you can

1486
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: read his work. He's on the Java House Peel and

1487
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: Poor guest line. Scott. One of the things that was

1488
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: a positive for the Pacers, and he has been And

1489
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I mean I had hesitation about giving

1490
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: a max deal to Pascal Siakam, partially because of his

1491
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: age and the timelines, and he's been everything and more

1492
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: that you could ask. So I was wrong there. But

1493
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: one of the things that is of concern to me,

1494
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: and I want you, Scott Agnes, to tell me if

1495
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: I should not be concerned by this. One of the

1496
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: things that is of concern to me is the fact

1497
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: that Pascal Siakam, when he arrived via trade, the lack

1498
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: of mileage for his age was a selling point. Hey,

1499
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I know that he's this age but or older than

1500
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: other players, but he doesn't have the number of games

1501
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: logged in Toronto? Is that getting off set now by

1502
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: the fact that he is the one guy that they're

1503
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: having to use thirty five plus a night and he's

1504
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: having to go at a higher level than if he

1505
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: had everybody around him to lean on.

1506
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's less the mileage or minutes per

1507
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 6: game he's playing right now, and more so how much

1508
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 6: is being asked from him within that timeframe, right, Like,

1509
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 6: if he doesn't do it, he's got to have that

1510
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 6: feel like, all right, well no one else will or

1511
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 6: I got to do it at both ends and I

1512
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 6: can't take possessions off or anything like that.

1513
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 5: So to me, it's not the minute.

1514
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 6: It's more just the lack of help across the roster

1515
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 6: that they're really getting. It's him, it's Natherin, and it's

1516
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 6: nim Hard and the rest of the group has kind

1517
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 6: of struggled, with a few exceptions from now and then.

1518
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 5: Right Furpy had a big game the other night in

1519
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 5: New Orleans.

1520
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 6: TJ McConnell, you know what you can get exactly from him,

1521
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 6: but everybody else A lot of question marks Scott.

1522
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: When you were a kid growing up, I asked Stephen

1523
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: this question earlier. If you were to look back at

1524
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: Christmases in the Agnes household, you know, each year there's

1525
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: the one thing that you like. You just you're trying everything,

1526
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: You're one to every Santa that you've known the man.

1527
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: You're asking everybody, You're repeating it to your parents, you're

1528
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: telling your grandparents. It is the one gift you want

1529
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: more than anything in life itself. Give me the gift

1530
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: at any point in the childhood of Agnes that jumps

1531
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: out at you as you're like, man, I remember wanting

1532
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: that more than anything.

1533
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 5: Ooh question, mmm. I think I had a lot of

1534
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 5: high hopes. I used to be the guy that had

1535
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 5: the long list. Now I haven't even thought, nor have

1536
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 5: I even started.

1537
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh, you're running out of time.

1538
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 5: Bud Work calls first Jake.

1539
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 6: A couple that come to mind, Penny Hardaway shoes back

1540
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 6: in the day, that must have been mid probably late nineties,

1541
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 6: and probably the other one.

1542
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 5: I think was Oh he was the rival, and I

1543
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 5: was so mad that I got it.

1544
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 6: I got the N sixty four, but I think I

1545
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 6: wanted the other one like a Sega maybe and it

1546
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 6: ended up being just fine.

1547
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 5: But I remember throwing a fit about that.

1548
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: So you were a spoilt kid sometimes sometimes and you

1549
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: were a brat. Is that we're getting at You were

1550
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: a brat.

1551
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 6: I was definitely known for being that until middle school

1552
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 6: for sure.

1553
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough with the and we'll do what we

1554
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: did with Steven Holder earlier. Okay, Santa is he's he's

1555
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: already know Santa's got to start out down in Australia

1556
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: and you know down there because it turns midnight faster, right,

1557
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 1: So Santa just has he has the night where everything's

1558
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: going perfect. He's put it in the ways. Rudolph is

1559
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: just killing it on the direction. You know, Donner and

1560
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Blitzen are on it. And so he's way ahead of schedule.

1561
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: And he arrives in the United States a little bit

1562
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, and so he knows that he's going

1563
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: he's going to visit a couple people and he's going

1564
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: to ask them, I want to know, as it relates

1565
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: to your job, what you want Santa to bring you

1566
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 1: for Christmas. And he begins at the home of Kevin

1567
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: Pritchard and he says, Kevin Pritchard, when it comes to

1568
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: this basketball team, tell me what it is that you

1569
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: want for Christmas that's most going to help your team.

1570
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: That would be what.

1571
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 6: Let's throw out the obvious jake of good health, because

1572
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 6: every team wants that, I would say stability and a

1573
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 6: long term piece at the center position.

1574
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so good answer, and Santa that down. And

1575
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: then Santa gets in his sleigh and he goes to

1576
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: the home of Rick Carlyle and he says, Rick, you know,

1577
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I just got done talking to your friend Kevin. It

1578
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. The thing is, I'm willing

1579
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:15,919
Speaker 1: to offer you the same thing as Santa Claus. However, however,

1580
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: I can only deliver one per person. So Rick Carlyle,

1581
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: you have to say something that is most going to

1582
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 1: help your team, but you cannot go with stability at

1583
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: the center position. Rick Carlile asks Santa for what.

1584
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 6: Consistency of their play fair, consistency of their hard play,

1585
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 6: because like last night, we saw a solid first half

1586
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 6: in a terrible second half.

1587
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Okay. Finally, Santa is going to go to the home

1588
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: of Pascal Siakam and he's going to say, you've been

1589
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: a very good boy. You've been a very good boy.

1590
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of players that would have

1591
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: gone to Santa a long time ago and asked for

1592
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: a trade. There are players that would have gone to

1593
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 1: Santa a long time ago and asked, you know, simply why,

1594
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: but you left me fabulous cookies. You left me really

1595
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: good milk. I'm very appreciative. This is a beautiful home

1596
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: where you had all your teammates down in the off season.

1597
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: But I'm curious, you passal, what is it that you

1598
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: would like? What does Pascal Siakam say?

1599
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 6: I think you'd say aaron Ne Smith to come back

1600
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 6: sooner than later.

1601
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 1: That you know that's not a bad thing. Nie Smith?

1602
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: Is you play that Jenga right, that wooden block game.

1603
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 1: They have it at Drake's. They haven't basically at any restaurant.

1604
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. The Jenga I do. Yeah, okay,

1605
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Nie Smith is one of those block pieces that is

1606
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: far more important than probably people realize.

1607
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 5: You would agree, Yeah, well for sure at both ends.

1608
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 6: In the locker room, the hard plays contagious, yeah, no doubt.

1609
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Santa gets done in Indy and now he's

1610
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: going to put on an extra layer and he puts

1611
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: the cute little you know, toppings on Rudolph and the

1612
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: gang because they're going further north to Milwaukee where things

1613
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: get very very cold, and truth be told, nobody, you know,

1614
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 1: for the obvious reasons. The reindeer they do kind of

1615
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: like the bucks, you know what I mean? I mean

1616
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of within the family. But nonetheless, Santa gets

1617
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: there and he arrives at the home of Miles Turner

1618
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: and he says to Miles Turner, young Miles, what is

1619
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: it that you would like for Christmas? You made an

1620
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: interesting request to the Easter Bunny last year in the spring,

1621
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: and now it's wintertime and it's my turn. What does

1622
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Miles Turner say, truth be told that he hopes for I.

1623
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 6: Think he would say, I already got paid, and if

1624
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 6: Jannis wants out, I want to go to a winning

1625
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 6: situation as well to maximize the rest of my career.

1626
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Scott agnesfield House files where you can

1627
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: read his work. Always a pleasure, Scott, very you have

1628
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: big Christmas plans by chance.

1629
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 5: Just in town the family as usual, which is which

1630
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 5: is awesome. I love it. It's my favorite holiday across

1631
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 5: the years.

1632
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell the neighbors to keep clear in the

1633
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: front yard for your tantrum if you don't get the

1634
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: exact specifications of your quest, right that.

1635
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 5: Was the only about thirty years ago.

1636
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Scott, Merry Christmas to you man. I

1637
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always.

1638
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 5: Hey, you too, the Jake Thanks enjoyed that game.

1639
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes joining us on the Java House Peel and

1640
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: poor guest line. You know what I have not done today,

1641
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: and I should have, and I apologize, but I also

1642
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: was aware that there were some things we were kind

1643
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: of working through, and I appreciate everybody's patience with that,

1644
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: and as well our engineers and their work. But two

1645
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: nine ten seventy is the telephone number, and after a

1646
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: game like we had last night, I'm just under the

1647
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: assumption that people would like to get it off their chest.

1648
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Two three nine ten seventy in terms of I asked yesterday,

1649
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: you know about what people wanted to say in terms

1650
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: of Twitter and their thoughts from last night, and let

1651
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: me read you two other really good ones again. Fifteen

1652
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: words are fewer, is the way I asked it last night.

1653
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I like this from pond Bear went over fifteen words,

1654
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: but it's good. I think this offseason is going to

1655
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 1: look like twenty twelve. Twenty twenty six is I'll say, screwed.

1656
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: You might as well trade Taylor, Pittman, Nelson, Franklin, any

1657
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: one of value with a contract is gone. Their careers

1658
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: are done here. That sounds extreme, but I don't think

1659
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: it's totally off base in terms of something that can

1660
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: be explored. I'm not saying they do it, but I

1661
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 1: could see them exploring it. Ross Mattlock, Ross matt eight.

1662
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Ross Mattlock has I think the best answer of all

1663
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: and I've used it today. Ross Mattlock gets total credit

1664
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: for it. Achilles heel bigger issue than achilles tendon. That

1665
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: is so brilliant, Ross, that is so brilliant. And you

1666
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: all right, the Achilles heel meaning in this case for

1667
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: me and all you can come up with a hundred

1668
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: different things that you think would be the Achilles heel,

1669
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: But the Achilles heel has been defensively and lack of

1670
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 1: late season execution for the Colts. Defense and depth. Those

1671
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: two things have absolutely been things that have done in

1672
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: the Colts. At this point, Kurtin, did you say that

1673
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: we have a couple to participate? Are you there? We've

1674
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: got Moe and Kimball on the line.

1675
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 5: Your choice.

1676
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 1: We will begin with Mo. Mo is exactly what the

1677
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Niners offense had last night, plenty of momentum and it

1678
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: never let up. What's up?

1679
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 9: Mo?

1680
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, I just got up, you guys. The fan has

1681
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 2: been my uh aleixir kind of startup because I got

1682
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 2: this morning drowning myself and my orange juice. And I

1683
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 2: look across my room and I'm looking at that bottle

1684
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 2: of vodka, and I'm thinking, at nine o'clock in the morning,

1685
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 2: should I and I passed on it? But they are

1686
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 2: driving me, the cults are driving me in that direction.

1687
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: It's I don't know what to say a fans. You know,

1688
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: I bought season tickets for thirty some years, and it

1689
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 2: just keeps going over and over and over and over.

1690
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 2: I know how you feel about it, but I can

1691
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: talk myself into all kinds of ways in which if

1692
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: they just jettisoned everybody and tried to make it work,

1693
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 2: that I can see a way where it could work.

1694
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we keep you know, it's that

1695
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: insanity thing, but you and I keep going over and

1696
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 2: it just keeps going on and on and on, and

1697
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: we repeat ourselves in that everything. Shoot, we even repeated

1698
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 2: ourselves getting fillip rivers.

1699
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this mode, do you ever have

1700
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 1: you ever had one of these dreams? And maybe it's

1701
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: just me and my own neuroticism, do you ever have

1702
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: a dream where you are like a in a building

1703
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: and you got to get to you know, a final

1704
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: exam or something like that. But every you're in a

1705
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: hallway and every time you try the door, it's locked,

1706
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 1: and you keep trying a different door and it's locked again,

1707
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and it's that's what it feels like. It feels like

1708
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: every combination they're trying to use for the last ten

1709
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: years is locked.

1710
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing with fandom. You know, I'm

1711
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 2: setting around and businesses, they jettison sayings, they start all over.

1712
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: If you've gone for so long, and all I want

1713
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: is hope, but it seems like we get into that

1714
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: part and then we have no hope and and fight.

1715
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see some fight. And that was

1716
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: so totally disappointing last night with the with the with

1717
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 2: the defense.

1718
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: So I'm not being too critical when I say that

1719
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: Defense looked like they had no heart, no hope, no plan. Right.

1720
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I know when you said something about

1721
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 2: watching training camp, and that's exactly what I thought. There

1722
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: were times when they just looked like they were statues.

1723
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: They were like them blocking dummies or whatever that they have.

1724
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean the word dummy.

1725
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: I'm not calling.

1726
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: No, I know what you mean. They're just standing there right. Wait,

1727
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: they're just standing there waiting.

1728
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Most importantly, sometimes sometimes they double team them, and I thought,

1729
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: what the heck are you guys thinking?

1730
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Mo, Listen, when it all comes down to it, here's

1731
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: the thing. Football is a great game, and the Colts

1732
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: are a franchise that have given a lot of, you know,

1733
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: joy to people for a long time. And I love

1734
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,719
Speaker 1: the fact that all we want is hope. That should

1735
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: be their model for next year. But most importantly, at

1736
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: Christmas time, it's about health, and it's about family and happiness.

1737
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: And I wish you a very merry Christmas for your

1738
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: entire family. With that, Kimball joins us. Now, Kimball, what's up?

1739
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 7: This is your seventy five year old favorite race car driver.

1740
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Seventy five year old favorite race car driver.

1741
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I talked while back. You call me Charlie Kimball.

1742
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I love it. Yeah. Matter of fact,

1743
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: now you're still what is it you race late models?

1744
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 7: Well right now?

1745
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 9: The twenty eighteen dogs Drango?

1746
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I mean you know there are late models,

1747
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: whether it be cars or otherwise, you can always be

1748
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 1: chasing them down right, I mean, you get what I'm saying,

1749
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: all right, Kimball.

1750
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 7: Yep, Well I'll tell you what everybody's talked about the defense,

1751
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 7: So I won't talk about that because that's a dead horse.

1752
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 7: But my feeling right now is I feel good for

1753
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 7: Philip Rivers. They give him no shot last night, and

1754
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 7: he did everything he could. He did, and it seemed

1755
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 7: like that we went away from the running game from

1756
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor after he got the almost his fifteen hundred

1757
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 7: yards and you know, well in they find everybody finally

1758
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 7: figured out what to do to stop him.

1759
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 9: So other than.

1760
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 7: You have to have players to have a defense, I

1761
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 7: mean you have to have a coach. And everybody come

1762
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 7: in talking about lou or Animo. So he was supposed

1763
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 7: to be the savior. Well I don't see it, but

1764
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 7: you know I will part with this shot right here,

1765
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 7: go Iu all the way. Thanks again, Happy New Year

1766
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 7: and a good blessing to you.

1767
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: Hey man. Happy holidays as well, Kimball. That's our man,

1768
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: our seventy five year old race car driver. I love it, right,

1769
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: and happy holidays, And you are right. Do you know

1770
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: what did you ever think? Did you ever think can

1771
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you imagine going on the way back machine at any

1772
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 1: point when I say way back even three years ago.

1773
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: But can you imagine, certainly thirty years ago, forty years ago,

1774
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: saying to someone I'm looking into the future. I'm looking

1775
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: in the future and twenty five and I'm seeing a

1776
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: city that is still picking itself up and dusting itself

1777
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: off from being one half away from winning an NBA

1778
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: title in Game seven. But they thought that they were

1779
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: going to find some peace of mind based on the

1780
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts getting out to a potential number one seed

1781
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: in the AFC. But when it all went south, it

1782
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: was all made good based on the fact that they

1783
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: would still be a week away from watching the Indiana

1784
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: Hoosiers as the number one seed in the College Football Playoffs,

1785
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: get set to beat Alabama and then go on and

1786
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: for the second time, potentially beat Oregon or Texas Tech,

1787
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 1: where Bob Knight would coach after he was fired from Indiana,

1788
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: and then they'll go on and potentially face the Ohio

1789
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 1: State Buckeyes, who they previously beat at Lucas Oil Stadium

1790
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship game. There are so many

1791
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: elements of that statement that thirty five years ago someone

1792
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: would have looked at you and without question, without question,

1793
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: you're in LaRue, Carter or Central State or whatever it

1794
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: was open at the time, because people would have been like,

1795
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 1: there's no way that none of that is of sound mind,

1796
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: none of it your continued thoughts on it, if you'd like.

1797
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: From last night a total collapse, Philip Rivers said something

1798
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 1: about where he thinks the colts are. We'll let you

1799
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: hear it next