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Speaker 1: Lie from Baal Hartliner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today, big news.

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Speaker 3: There was a filing today at the FCC by a

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Speaker 3: very renowned regal expert, Brian Fitzpatrick Vanderbilt Law School.

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Speaker 2: He is a.

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Speaker 3: Former Justice Scalia law clerk, very respected on the constitution

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Speaker 3: and legal analysis, and says the FCC's plan here, which

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Speaker 3: they're moving towards doing, of eliminating this TV cap is illegal.

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Speaker 2: It's a violation of federal law.

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Speaker 3: The federal law had been set and that they cannot

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Speaker 3: change it. Only Congress can change it.

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Speaker 1: So that's Chris Ruddy, the CEO of Newsmax, discussing the FCC,

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Speaker 1: Federal Communications Commission and the lifting of CAPS first station ownership.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: CAPS came on during the Reagan years and said you

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Speaker 1: can only if your company owns so many types of

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Speaker 1: stations radio, TV and others. You can only be in

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Speaker 1: so many households. And if you own too many, because

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Speaker 1: let's see, you buy another group, you have to divest

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Speaker 1: and sell some.

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Speaker 2: You can't have total control.

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Speaker 1: And it's an interesting argument that, well, that's not a

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Speaker 1: competition argument is it because if I can afford more,

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Speaker 1: and if I buy more, and if I grow better

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Speaker 1: because I have a better product, why can't I have

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Speaker 1: more stations? It's an argument of well, are we now

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Speaker 1: engaged in actually providing news or is one source providing

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Speaker 1: just one thing? If everything was owned by MSNBC, which

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Speaker 1: is now called ms now and that was the only

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Speaker 1: news you can get, would you actually be getting news

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Speaker 1: at all? So this has been the argument in the FCC,

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Speaker 1: making claim that hey, we simply don't allow someone to

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Speaker 1: have this much growth or or not growth, but control. Well,

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Speaker 1: you now have a deal. We're Nextstar, which owns News Nation.

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Speaker 1: It wants to acquire a group called Tegna, and it

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Speaker 1: would create a group that has two hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: four stations across forty four states, and they would have

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Speaker 1: seventy They are nearly like eighty percent reach. And so

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Speaker 1: there's this real argument against and Chris Ruddy of Newsmax

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Speaker 1: is problem that you can't have them be so big.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has now jumped into this, putting on true

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Speaker 1: social no expansion of the fake news networks, if anything,

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Speaker 2: So it's Brendan Carr, who.

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Speaker 1: Runs the FCC, who is now thinking about allowing these

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Speaker 1: caps to be grown.

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Speaker 2: I admit to you I'm in a unique place of.

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Speaker 1: Push because I think the argument for hey, this is

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Speaker 2: Is legit.

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Speaker 1: The conversation of this is monopoly power is equally legit.

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Speaker 1: You've got law professors at Vanderbilt, a guy who was

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Speaker 2: Saying that the FCC can't even change this unilaterally. You

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Speaker 1: Happen through Congress, not through the Federal Communications Commission. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: to doesn't have the express authority of Congress, who would

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Speaker 1: violate the law. What's going to come of this? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Am I paying attention?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I am?

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Speaker 1: I think we all should be. I think because we're

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Speaker 1: in it, right. I'm in it because I'm on radio.

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Speaker 1: You're in it because you're a consumer of it, of radio, TV.

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Speaker 2: Of all these things. So we're we come at it

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Speaker 2: me from different angles, but in the.

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Speaker 1: End, we both have levels of interest in what happens

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Speaker 2: Depend on it.

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Speaker 1: What is it that we want? Do we want the

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Speaker 1: government being able to have this level of control of blockage,

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Speaker 1: or do we want to ensure that there's a wide

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Speaker 1: start regulating that, oh what, you don't think that conversation's happening, honey, Please,

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So is gen Z.

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Speaker 1: Just like the millennials, and all their searching for is

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Speaker 1: a cushy gig Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to

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Speaker 1: be here, Good to be with you. Find everything I'm

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Speaker 1: doing over at Tony Katz dot com. I don't I

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Speaker 1: And a lot of complaining gen Z? My dealings with them,

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Speaker 1: Millennials for all of their complaining and caterwauling, and certainly

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Speaker 1: According to the first reports, they've also done a very

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Speaker 1: Like bitcoin other things like that. But they've done well there.

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Speaker 1: I haven't noticed the madness amongst gen Z, or maybe

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Speaker 1: This is exactly it. They don't respond to emails after

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Speaker 2: They're the ones keeping us from greatness.

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Speaker 1: Because in the end, this policy, in this push from

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Speaker 1: here are the two philosophies. Now go look at history.

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Speaker 1: Which one is succeeded, which one has failed, Which one

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Speaker 2: The data is very, very clear.

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Speaker 1: They now say, well, this person is keeping you from happiness,

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Speaker 7: scout team, and they had a few WNBA players on

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Speaker 1: Sophie Cunningham was asked about this these comments there from

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Speaker 1: because it is. It's a fact, no anger or anything else.

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Speaker 1: It is a fact. She goes on to say I

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Speaker 1: think if you're a professional athlete, if you're in that

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Speaker 1: elite level group, yeah, you should be able to beat

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Speaker 1: the girls.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by that. I don't get why it's

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Speaker 2: continuing to get brought up. If women are saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he couldn't beat us, Yes he could any.

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Speaker 1: NBA star or player that can beat a female in

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Speaker 1: high school. The context of it is fair, yes, accurate.

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Speaker 1: Why is it continually brought up. Well, if your whole

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Speaker 1: world is predicated on some feminism nonsense. I didn't say,

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Speaker 1: predicated on the idea that you should be treated fairly,

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Speaker 1: predicated on the idea that you should be treated respectfully.

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Speaker 1: But this pseudo intellectualism of feminism that dictates that men

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Speaker 1: which is a lot of what feminism tries to inculcate. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous because it creates a false reality. And somehow

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Speaker 1: it is by the feminist point of view of scene

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Speaker 1: to say that a man or a men's team would

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Speaker 1: be the women's team no matter what. There are women

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Speaker 1: who have walked out of events when there'll be someone

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Speaker 1: men are naturally taller and stronger than women, and they're like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna put up with this. We're going to

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Speaker 1: walk out. We won't listen to reality. That is what based.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Sophie Cunningham and her comments here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate her saying, yeah, why are we still talking

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Speaker 1: about this? Why are we still talking about this? Why

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Speaker 1: aren't we more talking about what the WNBA has to

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Speaker 1: do to get into more homes and to bring in

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Speaker 1: more dollars, to be more exciting, And maybe it should

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Speaker 1: involve not hating Caitlin Clark, not hating Sophie Cunningham, raise

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Speaker 1: the game and shut off the old skin.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say.

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Speaker 1: Forget where you came from, but this idea that you

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Speaker 1: have to be this cloistered league as opposed to this

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Speaker 1: the way you always did it, as opposed to something

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Speaker 1: that can actually be more wait for the word, inclusive,

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Speaker 1: and bring more players into the fold, more fans into

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Speaker 2: That's what you should want now.

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Speaker 1: As for Marjorie Taylor Green and the resignation heard around

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Speaker 1: the world is I've discussed.

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Speaker 2: There are reasons for this resignation.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't know the story, Marjorie Taylor Green resigned

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Speaker 1: over the weekend from the House of Representatives. I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure I'm clear. She didn't resign. She announced

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Speaker 1: her resignation, and her resignation is coming on January fifth.

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Speaker 1: And you say to me, hey, that's weird. Why in

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Speaker 1: the world is at January fifth? Because January fifth would

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Speaker 1: be two days after January third, and January third is

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Speaker 1: when the House has sworn into office, and that would

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Speaker 1: make it five years that she has been in office.

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Speaker 1: And I always thought it was four years, and some

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Speaker 1: people said it was five years. Five years serving in Congress.

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Speaker 1: That's when you get a full lifetime pension.

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Speaker 2: TUTA.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it was always the plan, maybe it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure what the story here is.

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Speaker 2: But the.

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Speaker 1: Anger and vitriol here of Marjorie Taylor Green and her

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Speaker 1: response to why it is, or her announcement as to

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Speaker 1: why she is retiring, which was this nine minute plus

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Speaker 2: It really was. It was.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm not gonna sit here and be a battered

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Speaker 1: was a bat housewife, right, and she's going after Trump.

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Speaker 8: Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen

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Speaker 8: years old, trafficked and used by rich, powerful men should

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Speaker 8: not result in me being called a trader and threatened

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Speaker 8: by the President of the United States, whom I fought for.

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Speaker 8: I have too much self respect and dignity. I love

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Speaker 8: my family way too much, and I do not want

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Speaker 8: my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and

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Speaker 8: hateful primary against me by the president that we all

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Speaker 8: fought for, only to fight and win my election, while

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Speaker 8: Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be

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Speaker 8: expected to defend the president against impeachment after he hatefully

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Speaker 8: dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and tried.

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Speaker 2: To destroy me.

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Speaker 1: Admittedly, that's a that's a pretty compelling argument. Why in

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Speaker 1: the world should I keep running? And then I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be told to be dutiful?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: The battered housewife is how she brought it up in

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Speaker 1: being supportive of him.

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Speaker 2: When Trump was asked about Marjorie Taylor Green, Are willing

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Speaker 2: Are you willing to forget comb for my favorite Green?

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Speaker 4: Both forgetful us?

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Speaker 1: No, just I just disagreed with her philosopher, she started

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Speaker 1: backing perhaps the worst Republican.

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Speaker 2: Congresson in our history.

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Speaker 1: You know, stupid person became bastily and.

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Speaker 2: I had told go your own way.

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Speaker 1: And once I left her, she resigned because she would

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Speaker 1: have he would never.

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Speaker 2: Have divided the primary. But I think she's a nice person.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she's hanging out with the stupid guy, Thomas Massey.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't win without me, But I think she's a

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Speaker 1: nice person. He never stops being him for a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what is based. It's not that Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green is wrong about what she said about what's

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Speaker 1: going to be expected her. And of course, if Democrats

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Speaker 1: win the midterms to which she is seating, that point,

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Speaker 1: which I think is pretty ugly. If the House of

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Speaker 1: Representatives is sworn in on January third, Donald Trump will

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Speaker 1: be impeached on January third, there is no debate here.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to question that that's coming. What we

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Speaker 1: have to question is why did you think that you

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Speaker 1: and President Trump were going to have a perfect relationship

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Speaker 1: all throughout? If you disagreed with him, you have to

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Speaker 1: understand the guy. That's all you have to understand the

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Speaker 1: style and the methodology. You have to understand the person.

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Speaker 1: Trump's entire style is we're friends while we're friends, and

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Speaker 1: we're enemies while we're enemies, and then we could be

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Speaker 1: friends again. That whole meeting was ar on, Mom, Donnie

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Speaker 1: is so freaking ridiculous. And for the record, does anybody

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Speaker 1: think that Trump, Mom Donnie are somehow going to be

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Speaker 1: friends because they had.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a laugh in the oval.

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Speaker 1: Stop it, Stop kidding yourself, Stop everything. I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: meeting was far more upsetting to the political left than

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Speaker 1: it ever was to the political right, because they were like,

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Speaker 1: how dare you humanize Donald Trump?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you scream at him? Oh, you should have

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Speaker 2: just hit him right there.

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Speaker 1: I know somebody who was asked to be on stage

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Speaker 1: at an event Trump was at and did a quick

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Speaker 1: speak at the event I'm not gonna name names, and

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Speaker 1: then Trump was there to give the guy a hug, and.

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Speaker 2: People were like, you should have punched him in the face.

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Speaker 1: You should have done what what kind of crazy person

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Speaker 1: would think this?

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Speaker 2: There's the President of the United States wanting to give

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Speaker 2: you a hug.

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Speaker 1: You give him a hug. Now, maybe you could just

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Speaker 1: put your hand out and shake his hand. If Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama wants to give me a hug, God, shake his hand. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with him about anything. Punch him in

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Speaker 1: the face is the craziest thing in the world. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's what the left really expected of Mom

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Speaker 1: Donnie and I think he's going to suffer a little

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Speaker 1: bit for it.

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Speaker 2: But no one thinks they're going to be buddies.

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green didn't understand that if she might disagree

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, that he's going to.

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Speaker 2: Lash out. What do we what are we new to

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Speaker 2: this game?

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Speaker 1: I think that listening to Marjorie Taylor Green complain in

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Speaker 1: this nine plus minute video was just that one or

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Speaker 1: two moments of Okay, that's interesting, but mostly a bunch

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Speaker 1: of moments of I did this to myself because she did.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind her walking away. I don't mind her resigning.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm bothered by losing Jewish space Laser girl?

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Speaker 1: As I said about her from the beginning, she ain't

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Speaker 1: on my side.

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Speaker 2: I might get some boats out of her, I like,

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Speaker 2: but that's it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Does she have one or two points? Absolutely, she has

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Speaker 1: one or two points. Am I going to miss or no?

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Speaker 1: Should we elect better?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And should we elect people who are more interested in

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Speaker 1: not just party, but in country and in a value

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Speaker 1: system than engaging in the level of idology of people. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Today. We had a very good day today.

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Speaker 4: I think we made a tremendous amount of progress, even

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Speaker 4: from the last time I spoke to you, and I

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Speaker 4: apologize for keeping you waiting with those more work to

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Speaker 4: be done. We began almost three weeks ago with a

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Speaker 2: With input from both sides.

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Speaker 4: And one of the things that happens when you've been

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Speaker 4: and so that allowed us to create a foundational document

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Speaker 4: engagement with the Ukrainian side, including our Secretary of the

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Speaker 2: Does that mean you're going to.

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Speaker 1: Accept get them to accept the idea of giving up

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Speaker 1: way more land that the Russians have control of. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the question, Secretary Rubio. Are they going to

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Speaker 1: give up even more? And what's the real peace guarantee?

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: That's Secretary of Saint Mark Rubia, this peace deal with

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Speaker 1: the Russians in Ukraine, these negotiations that have been going

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Speaker 1: on in Geneva. I think the plan is to make

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Speaker 1: some kind of announcement Thanksgiving. That's been the word on

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Speaker 1: the street. We'll see what makes anybody think the Russians

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Speaker 1: are going to live up to the word. Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 1: living up to his word.

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Speaker 2: Come on, come on, let's not be silly people. That's

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Speaker 2: just me.

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Speaker 1: That's not helpful at all. We will see what we

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Speaker 1: will see. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. I'll

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Speaker 1: catch you tomorrow. Everyone take cares