WEBVTT - Tony Katz on Tucker Carlson 10-Point Manifesto

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<v Speaker 1>Lie from baal hartbind and the Crossroads of America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Katz today.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't deny that Tucker Carlson knows how to make news.

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<v Speaker 3>He does.

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<v Speaker 2>He really and truly does know how to The one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we had discussed repeatedly when Tucker Carlson was

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<v Speaker 2>at Fox was that a lot of people can comment

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<v Speaker 2>on news, making news very very different, starting a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about an idea, very very very different. Did I say

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<v Speaker 2>hello Tony Katz Tony Kats today live streaming on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>and rumble Tony Katz on the Twitter, ex Tony Kats, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Kats Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not easy to do and he was able to

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was quite impressive. Glenn Beck was able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, quite impressive. Both have gone in different directions

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<v Speaker 2>now Glenn Beck has been able to reinvent himself a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times. It's an incredible story. Really is Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>after leaving Fox rightly or wrongly fired, I think debated,

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<v Speaker 2>But he went on his own and started this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He started doing the interviews and the videos on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>on X and people like, look see you don't need

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<v Speaker 2>Fox because they were mad at Fox.

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<v Speaker 3>Mad as can be for letting him go.

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<v Speaker 2>And I understood that. I thought it wasn't the right move.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tucker was doing his videos and you looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the millions of views, You're like, this is this is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Tucker went to Russia and people said, oh, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna glorify Putin.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, wait a second.

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<v Speaker 2>You you have a chance to interview Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 3>You take the chance, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go in your interview of Vladimir Putin. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>issue with him doing that. I had no issue with

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<v Speaker 2>the interviewing. I like parts, didn't like parts. Fine, letting

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<v Speaker 2>him talk too much. He's trying to as Putin is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to reinvent history as the reasons why he actually

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<v Speaker 2>the Russians owned this land and that land or the Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>That part didn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of the typical stuff I would expect

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<v Speaker 2>from from Putin. What got to me was Tucker going

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<v Speaker 2>to a Russian supermarket which we would just call market

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no way it was super and saying, look

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<v Speaker 2>how clean this is. Isn't this great? And look at

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<v Speaker 2>these prices. These prices are incredible. At that moment, the

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<v Speaker 2>term useful idiot just punches you in the face. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it slaps you both ways with the hand to the

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<v Speaker 2>front and to the back. So Russian supermarket that they

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<v Speaker 2>sent you this is good. They happened to send you

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<v Speaker 2>to the one that actually had some food. No, things

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<v Speaker 2>are not great with the Russian economy. They're better. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna now start saying, Wow, the system here is really terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>What's wrong with you? What next?

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<v Speaker 2>Bringing back Walter Duranty to tell me there's no famine

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<v Speaker 2>in Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 3>Stop it? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You could watch him doing it, and all I could

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<v Speaker 2>think of my head is slow motion.

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<v Speaker 3>No come bu.

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<v Speaker 1>But no.

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<v Speaker 2>Once he did that, he was he was gone, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has proven himself gone ever since. And now he

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<v Speaker 2>is in the place where never mind uh his uh

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<v Speaker 2>anti Israel zealotry, but rather he's in the place of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump lied to you, Dunda dun, Trump betrayed you. Maga

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<v Speaker 2>is dead, and it is up to me, Tucker Carlson,

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<v Speaker 2>to make things right, which he followed it up with

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<v Speaker 2>that was my laugh impression. Sometimes it's better. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>my best one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotta be a little deeper, a little more rich.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more like that, it's more.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tucker put out a photo last week. It was

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<v Speaker 2>him and this guy Joe Kent. If you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>story of Joe Kent, and oh what a whistleblower, not

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<v Speaker 2>a not a whistleblower. And it's Congressman Thomas Massey, who

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<v Speaker 2>to me is great disappointment. And it's former Representative Marjorie

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Green, who I said at then and I say

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<v Speaker 2>it now. Marjorie Taylor Green was somebody who was going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote the way I wanted her to vote a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. And that's what I was gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with. No part of me wants anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm still not past space lavers

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<v Speaker 2>a space laser. Sorry, I'm not past the space lasers.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just weird. Everything about her, everything about her

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<v Speaker 2>just no thanks, none. And I still say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're connected to Marjorie Taylor Green and you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do something and she's the person you're doing with with no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it matters. It matters sometimes the bedfellow matters. This goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to something that Abdul Sad said when he was

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<v Speaker 2>asked about who he campaigns with and the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>people like the absolute free Cassan Piker, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>asked this question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you intend to continue to campaign with us on Piker?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm focused on campaigning in this state, all over the state.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not as focused on who I'm campaigning with. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>focused on who I'm campaigning for, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is you're not focusing on who you're campaigning with. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>go campaigning with David Duke and let me know how

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. I'll wait, I'll just I'll wait right here

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>No. No, you're not concerned with who you're campaigning with.

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<v Speaker 2>What Republican could ever get away with that line? You're

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<v Speaker 2>not concerned about who you're campaigning with. A guy who

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<v Speaker 2>says he hates the country and we deserve nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>If I went campaign with Greg Baveno, who ran a

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<v Speaker 2>border patrol, who was doing the ice work in Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd get vilified.

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<v Speaker 3>Four ways from Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get campaign with this commie loving Hassan Piker,

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<v Speaker 2>this pseudo tough guy, and it's fun. Who else can

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<v Speaker 2>you campaign with that. If it doesn't matter you're campaigning with.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know how the new rules work.

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<v Speaker 2>You're associated with Marjorie Taylor Green, I'm like, okay, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unserious.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tucker has unveiled a tent point manifesto, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation of whether or not he's actually thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>a third party run.

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<v Speaker 3>I have and you've heard me.

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<v Speaker 2>Discuss this if you've been with the show for any

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<v Speaker 2>length of time, I am fine with third parties. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very okay with third parties. You want to create a

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<v Speaker 2>third party, go ahead. You want to run in a

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<v Speaker 2>third party, you go right ahead. You have the right

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<v Speaker 2>to do what you will. You're an American citizen. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you think that there is a need for a

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<v Speaker 2>new party, that isn't quite sharing what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Right the parties aren't sharing what you want,

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<v Speaker 2>so you want to create something new, no one should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to stop you. That's nutty. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the idea of throwing away your vote. It

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<v Speaker 2>is yours. I think there are sometimes bad votes. I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes people are voting like morons, But it's your vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, But out comes this ten point manifesto, so

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<v Speaker 2>it makes people wonder whether or not he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be creating his own political party. And I'm going through

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<v Speaker 2>what his ten points are. Now, this is how Axios

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<v Speaker 2>put it together. Right, his ten point plan one is fair.

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<v Speaker 2>The same rules should apply to presidents, federal agents, and

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<v Speaker 2>elites such as Jeffrey Epstein, whose.

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<v Speaker 3>Impunity Wait, I know, I don't know that's right. Fair,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he said. Fair, I've got this right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would not disagree with this, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is important for us to go through it because

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<v Speaker 2>what we will find is that I don't think on

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<v Speaker 2>the baseline stuff, Tucker and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would disagree on the idea of fairness.

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<v Speaker 2>And of the idea of the United States being what

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<v Speaker 2>he might describe.

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<v Speaker 3>As as sovereign.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we are in charge of us, We side us

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<v Speaker 2>and our future. Where we would wholeheartedly disagree, aggressively disagree

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<v Speaker 2>is to the place where he thinks that the United

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<v Speaker 2>States is pushed into action.

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<v Speaker 3>By Israel, for example, Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything has shown us that that's not true, it

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<v Speaker 2>is the last four months.

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<v Speaker 3>It is silly talk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as silly as having Darryl Cooper on your show

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking you're getting a history lesson it is false

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<v Speaker 2>and there a divide cannot be overcome. Well, we may

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<v Speaker 2>agree that the last thing in the world we should

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<v Speaker 2>want on any stretch is the United States being subservient

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<v Speaker 2>to another nation.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only will I.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree to that, I will say it time and again

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<v Speaker 2>and again and again. The idea that the United States

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<v Speaker 2>is controlled by Israel is the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is said by Ilhan O Mar and Rashida Talib and

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<v Speaker 2>those Jew hating bigots are not people we should emulate.

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<v Speaker 3>He then goes into the next which is productive.

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<v Speaker 2>America should rebuild farming and manufacturing and craftsmanship while rejecting

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<v Speaker 2>an economy dominated by finance, real estate speculations, surveillance systems,

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<v Speaker 2>and weapons. Now, now we're getting into a very unique

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<v Speaker 2>divide because I have supported the bringing back and manufacturing

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as I've been political, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember being at events like south By Southwest. I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing some tech work at the time and being around

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<v Speaker 2>these tech people and I would talk about the need

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<v Speaker 2>for manufacturing. I'd get laughed at. Nobody needs to build

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<v Speaker 2>chairs in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they were wrong. Of course, we need to build

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<v Speaker 3>chairs in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>You need jobs for all people, and you need to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to have a manufacturing base to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to handle your business when the world decides it's not

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<v Speaker 2>interested in your business.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's also nothing wrong with finance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this gets into a place where I believe he

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<v Speaker 2>starts referring to loans and interest as usury.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how capital gets dispersed and how growth takes place.

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<v Speaker 2>And to call interest rates usury is to buy into

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<v Speaker 2>an Islamist mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>He can be right on something and wrong on something

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<v Speaker 2>else that I'm willing to discuss it. As such, he

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<v Speaker 2>talks about beauty that urban planners have uglified American cities

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<v Speaker 2>portrayed in brutalist architecture, and a whole bunch of other things. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about this for forever. Art matters, cleaning up

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<v Speaker 2>the statues in DC, matters, ending the blights, changes the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, for years, the so called artists have been

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<v Speaker 2>pushing nihilism nothingness as opposed to grandeur and greatness and

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<v Speaker 2>things that thought provoke. Instead, it has turned into silly,

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<v Speaker 2>childlike art projects. People peeing on a crucifix or taping

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<v Speaker 2>up banana to a wall and saying twelve million dollars please.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is just some of it. It's funny Tucker

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<v Speaker 3>here has not said anything that is.

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<v Speaker 2>While he just then tries to couch it in something

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<v Speaker 2>that is wild. I mean that's you go through this

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be like, yes, this, but know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>that that's the problem. It's the that that doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>make the free society. And if Tucker now wants to

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<v Speaker 2>start a conversation about these ideas great, is he prepared

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<v Speaker 2>to defend them. Is he prepared to recognize when he

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong? Because I am more than prepared to show

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<v Speaker 2>him that he is wrong. To discuss these things out

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<v Speaker 2>that the things he says that are detrimental for American

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<v Speaker 2>society are not that it is not an all or

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<v Speaker 2>nothing proposition in the majority of cases, but rather in

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<v Speaker 2>the very few cases. And where in he is ten points,

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<v Speaker 2>does he engage the idea that America is not land,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the ideal, and that Jade Vance is wrong. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're all gonna be talking about this in

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<v Speaker 2>the weeks I had. I'm looking forward to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Katz, And this is Tony Katz today