1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680
Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your Tuesday

2
00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,720
Speaker 1: with us. Later, economist that doctor Julian Malvaux will shed

3
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,400
Speaker 1: light on how the government shut down is disproportionately impacting

4
00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 1: the black community. Doctor Malvaux will also preview some of

5
00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,960
Speaker 1: the key races in next week's elections. But before Dr Malvaux,

6
00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,520
Speaker 1: Phil Smith from the National African American Gun Association will

7
00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,639
Speaker 1: explain why there's been a surge in membership. Before Phil,

8
00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,960
Speaker 1: the President General of the Universal African People's Organization, Brother

9
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Zaki Broody, will introduce us to two Cuban freedom fighters.

10
00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But to get a starting moment, Chary, we'll bring in

11
00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,240
Speaker 1: activists that equibeing or solud will join us. But as

12
00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Kevin opened the classroom doors on this Tuesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

13
00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,080
Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, my friend Carl Nelson, how are you feeling?

14
00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin precisely.

15
00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,560
Speaker 2: And that's an ongoing theme because every day there's something new.

16
00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,240
Speaker 1: It's that's right, but you've got to be open to

17
00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,600
Speaker 1: receive it.

18
00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,160
Speaker 2: Or just decided not to stay up late at night

19
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,400
Speaker 2: trying to watch a football game. How about that one?

20
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,920
Speaker 2: That's my latest in the morning, Come man, tell me

21
00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000
Speaker 2: about it, you know, I mean, I thought I had

22
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,640
Speaker 2: it down to a routine, you know, how to get

23
00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,160
Speaker 2: up early and bright and early. I'm talking you know,

24
00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,560
Speaker 2: so early. People will say, what you get up win?

25
00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,080
Speaker 2: It's just after watching the game, and I didn't even

26
00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,000
Speaker 2: see enough of it to assess everything that happened. However,

27
00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, I watched the interception, the counter interception, and

28
00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,960
Speaker 2: the other interception. I watched those which those were exciting moments.

29
00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,080
Speaker 2: But according to the commander's website, the bad news is

30
00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,600
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin is on the injured list again.

31
00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,880
Speaker 1: An he thought, folks, if you didn't like us, didn't

32
00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,560
Speaker 1: watch the game. The final score was twenty eight seven.

33
00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840
Speaker 1: Of course, Oh yeah, I wanted to mentioned that. By

34
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,640
Speaker 1: the way, Yes, yes, let me ask you this, Kevin.

35
00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,080
Speaker 1: Had it been the other way around, it would have

36
00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,480
Speaker 1: been worth it. Would you feel better if they yes?

37
00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 2: You know, okay, I'm one of those kind of fans,

38
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, I'm with them when they win, and it's

39
00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,920
Speaker 2: and it's a shame that it affects you, you know

40
00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,760
Speaker 2: a little bit when they lose, you know, especially after

41
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 2: you've invested the time. Again, I could have finished reading

42
00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 2: that book. I'm trying to. Yeah, you see, you know,

43
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 2: but what I do is I read and watch. We

44
00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160
Speaker 2: read a little bit, watch a little bit of TV.

45
00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120
Speaker 2: You know, read and listen and then go what did

46
00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,360
Speaker 2: I miss? You know that kind of thing. You seem

47
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,240
Speaker 2: so So that's the update. Yeah, thank you for the score.

48
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,880
Speaker 2: You you you are brave man. You mentioned it. I

49
00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 2: didn't feel it hurts. I know, I guess. I guess

50
00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,960
Speaker 2: folks in the district it hurts too to hear the score.

51
00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,320
Speaker 2: But they'll probably get better when they play the Seahawks

52
00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:57,920
Speaker 2: the next game.

53
00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

54
00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only the eighth of the season. You know,

55
00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,080
Speaker 2: there's still some time for a comeback if the team

56
00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,120
Speaker 2: gets healthy and all of the players are healthy at

57
00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 2: the same time, like apparently the Kansas City Chiefs were.

58
00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960
Speaker 2: All of their injured players are back. I don't know

59
00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,960
Speaker 2: if all of them, but you know, that guy Mahomes

60
00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,880
Speaker 2: was firing on all cylinders apparently except the ones when

61
00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,360
Speaker 2: he got intercepted. But otherwise, Yeah, it was amazing. It

62
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,440
Speaker 2: was amazing watching them play. You know, I just like

63
00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,080
Speaker 2: watching that kind of professionalism. Meanwhile, shut down freezes earlier

64
00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,440
Speaker 2: job cut in battles as Trump signals for fresh layoffs.

65
00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm glad you mentioned that because somebody

66
00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,720
Speaker 1: asked me yesterday if the ICE people are getting paid

67
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,720
Speaker 1: or are they doing it for free? Since there's all

68
00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960
Speaker 1: government officials are not getting paid except the elected officials

69
00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,200
Speaker 1: that inclusive president in Congress. Do you know if ICE

70
00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,000
Speaker 1: is getting paid?

71
00:03:59,080 --> 00:03:59,480
Speaker 2: Why not?

72
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,160
Speaker 4: Know?

73
00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,720
Speaker 2: That's a very good question because what is ICE? Are

74
00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,320
Speaker 2: they military? Are they private? You know what?

75
00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:14,920
Speaker 1: It's another question too. Let me pull up our somebody

76
00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,880
Speaker 1: can answer. What about listeners that we you know, we've

77
00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,200
Speaker 1: got some smart listeners out there, Kevin. Maybe they'll they'll

78
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,800
Speaker 1: tell us whether they quasi government officials or private militia.

79
00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 1: You know, some people are saying it's a private militia

80
00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,680
Speaker 1: that he's building, and they're gonna be they're going to

81
00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,719
Speaker 1: be engaged in quite some time, even after they've completed

82
00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 1: their mission, if they ever can complete the mission.

83
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:37,640
Speaker 5: Right.

84
00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't know. The Trump administration is staging

85
00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,400
Speaker 2: a shakeup and ICE with plans to reassign senior leaders.

86
00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 1: And because they're not meeting that, they're objectives, they've they've

87
00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760
Speaker 1: got they've got a quota they have to meet, and

88
00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,880
Speaker 1: they have a hard time reaching that quota, so that

89
00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,640
Speaker 1: they just transfer or not firing or removing people because

90
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,680
Speaker 1: they feel they see they failed.

91
00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,160
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, you know, it's an interesting job anyway,

92
00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, because they just got over wearing masks as

93
00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,560
Speaker 2: they go out.

94
00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,400
Speaker 1: And do the job, right, Yeah, some of them still

95
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,400
Speaker 1: doing some places. I mean there's pushbacks in California, Illinois,

96
00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,239
Speaker 1: the marriage in the cities in those states are pushed

97
00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800
Speaker 1: back on that, so they have to take the mask

98
00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120
Speaker 1: up or other places. I'm not quite sure if they're

99
00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:27,599
Speaker 1: doing that.

100
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh And while the administration has made anyone in the

101
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,719
Speaker 2: US illegally that's encountered by federal official subject to arrest,

102
00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,560
Speaker 2: Ice says its operations have continued to primarily target immigrants

103
00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,880
Speaker 2: who have committed crimes in addition to being in the

104
00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,920
Speaker 2: country unlawfully. And so I guess that's what slows them down.

105
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 2: They're looking for someone who jay walked across the street

106
00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,840
Speaker 2: something and then well, you.

107
00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,919
Speaker 1: Know, originally they told they're going to take out the criminal,

108
00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,680
Speaker 1: the rapist, the terrorists and that, but some people who've

109
00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 1: been living to overstate their visions for you know, for

110
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,040
Speaker 1: and just walking across the street and they look Spanish,

111
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,960
Speaker 1: look Latino. They're picking them up and checking them for

112
00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,279
Speaker 1: their credentials. And many folks don't walk around with your

113
00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,000
Speaker 1: with your birth Certificatina or your passport. So that's that's

114
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,839
Speaker 1: the problem. Right there, there's some bad embrace. They're jaywalking

115
00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,720
Speaker 1: across the street right in front of.

116
00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 2: Our children looking on the news. The President says he

117
00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,560
Speaker 2: has no plans to name the White House after himself.

118
00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,560
Speaker 2: How many people believe that?

119
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Let's see that hand, show them the White House Ballroom.

120
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,360
Speaker 2: At the White House Ballroom right right? Uh, yeah, I'm

121
00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,240
Speaker 2: in the White House Ballroom right he had there's no

122
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,600
Speaker 2: plans to name the ballroom after himself, he says, is

123
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,760
Speaker 2: to name his three hundred million dollars White House Ballroom.

124
00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640
Speaker 2: He's speaking to the As he was speaking to reporters,

125
00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,360
Speaker 2: he didn't an earlier report that he was likely to

126
00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,920
Speaker 2: add his name. He says, I don't have any plan

127
00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,200
Speaker 2: to call it after myself. That was fake news. Probably

128
00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,560
Speaker 2: gonna call it the Presidential Ballroom or something like that.

129
00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 2: We haven't really thought about a name yet. See that

130
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,960
Speaker 2: means he could wake up once it's finished and go, hey,

131
00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,960
Speaker 2: I dubbed the Donald Trump. Yeah. The White House claims

132
00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,800
Speaker 2: They released a full list of donors to the project,

133
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,680
Speaker 2: and on that list ABC News, the ballroom is referred

134
00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,360
Speaker 2: to as the President Donald J. Trump Ballroom, So okay,

135
00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,040
Speaker 2: was that just a working a working name. The entire

136
00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,680
Speaker 2: east wing of the White House was demolished to make

137
00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,720
Speaker 2: way for the ninety thousand square footballroom, and that was

138
00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,360
Speaker 2: in photos as of last Thursday. So three hundred and

139
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,600
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. They're gonna have a real ball especially

140
00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,640
Speaker 2: imagine at the grand opening.

141
00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,760
Speaker 3: Right, I hope you get I hope you got an invite?

142
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,320
Speaker 3: Kevin me too, what well you said, would you would

143
00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,600
Speaker 3: you go? Would you go if you're invited? Yeah, because

144
00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 3: look at the.

145
00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,400
Speaker 2: Fall the fallout when when the Snoop Dogg took his gig,

146
00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,200
Speaker 2: when he took the gig, you know, and look at

147
00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,760
Speaker 2: the fallout from that. But since I'm a little known person,

148
00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400
Speaker 2: and they'll just say, and there was our singer there

149
00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,599
Speaker 2: thanks to the singer, you see, Uh, finally, mundame me

150
00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,880
Speaker 2: is the It looks like he might win in New York.

151
00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,480
Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask you what is democratic socialism anyway?

152
00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,600
Speaker 2: Or are we going to wait till we get one

153
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,040
Speaker 2: of the experts later this week.

154
00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll get because coming up later we're going

155
00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 1: to have a doctor Julian Malva, and we'll ask you

156
00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,480
Speaker 1: about that because all about economics. You know what he's socialism.

157
00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,880
Speaker 1: But some people try to say that socialism is communism.

158
00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,720
Speaker 1: It's not. It's just that they're democrat that they say

159
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,800
Speaker 1: they're democrats, but they believe in certain things. They believe

160
00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,000
Speaker 1: in certain things what people will call socialism, Like people

161
00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,560
Speaker 1: think that food stamp is socialism, you know. People some

162
00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,520
Speaker 1: people think healthcare is socialism, you know. But some people

163
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 1: say that, well, you know, educational education, right, and then

164
00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,599
Speaker 1: you juxtapose that with corporate welfare, all the breaks of

165
00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 1: the corporate people get, you know, the tax breaks and

166
00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,120
Speaker 1: all of that. So it's how you define it. But

167
00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,120
Speaker 1: I'll leave that up to dtor doctor Julian Malveau, and

168
00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,000
Speaker 1: she joins us later.

169
00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,959
Speaker 2: Well, since that'll be a conversation between you and her,

170
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,719
Speaker 2: you know, A and B. I'm gonna see what it

171
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,640
Speaker 2: says here the Democratic Socialists of America website Real quick.

172
00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,640
Speaker 2: It says capitalism is a system designed by the owning

173
00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640
Speaker 2: class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit.

174
00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,640
Speaker 2: We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where

175
00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,280
Speaker 2: ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods,

176
00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,560
Speaker 2: and society. And I thought that that's what the whole

177
00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,280
Speaker 2: American ideology is in the first place.

178
00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,320
Speaker 1: Well, see, most people are not going to look it

179
00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,400
Speaker 1: up like you and trying to get a definition. They

180
00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,599
Speaker 1: just hear the word and they just focus on the

181
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,240
Speaker 1: word social sipt. It's like the system of white supremacy.

182
00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 6: You know.

183
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,720
Speaker 1: If there are most folks when they hear that black people,

184
00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,200
Speaker 1: they don't understand it because they focus on supreme and

185
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,640
Speaker 1: white instead of a keyword. Is the system?

186
00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm full disclosure. I'm one of

187
00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,960
Speaker 2: those kind of people that I just like looking up

188
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,240
Speaker 2: stuff and I love reading, and I love looking up stuff.

189
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,440
Speaker 2: I like to know what I'm talking about or what

190
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,360
Speaker 2: you know. The other person just said, you know, just

191
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,840
Speaker 2: confirm it, you see what I mean, because too many

192
00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:49,000
Speaker 2: things become watered down, you know, after a while, you know, see,

193
00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 2: so so sometimes you just want to get get clarity

194
00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,640
Speaker 2: on things. That's what I recommend. And I've been accused

195
00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,920
Speaker 2: of being a quote unquote book worm. See, but look

196
00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,880
Speaker 2: up the definition of that. Okay. Anyway, thanks for your time,

197
00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,600
Speaker 2: caud It's right, one more.

198
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 1: One more issue. We got it, you know, right now.

199
00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920
Speaker 1: And this appear with the major news story around the world.

200
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,760
Speaker 1: Probably it's Hurricane Melissa's beginning made its Turney's now heading

201
00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,520
Speaker 1: to Jamaica on the steps of Jamaica. Is gonna slice

202
00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 1: through Jamaica. It's slow moving hurricane a Cat five that's

203
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,480
Speaker 1: the strongest you can get. And then after that it's

204
00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,360
Speaker 1: going to go through Cuba, uh and then probably go

205
00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,199
Speaker 1: through some of the Bahamas and on the way into

206
00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,400
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean over to Bermuda. So all those folks

207
00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of our brothers and sisters resided. Keep

208
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,840
Speaker 1: them in your thoughts and prayers as a Hurricane Melissy,

209
00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,520
Speaker 1: because they'll be before we get out there. They'll be

210
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,920
Speaker 1: banding down, they'll be bearing down on Jamaica, and it's

211
00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna cut through that island. So we just just keep

212
00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,240
Speaker 1: those folks in our thoughts.

213
00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,559
Speaker 2: Thanks Kevin, Oh right, thank you, co And here is

214
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,400
Speaker 2: our guests, Corbina.

215
00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,560
Speaker 1: Brother, Corbina grand Rising, Welcome back to the program.

216
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,679
Speaker 7: Hey, good to be here, Grand Rising to YouTube, brothers

217
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:04,600
Speaker 7: and the people.

218
00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,120
Speaker 2: Man.

219
00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,120
Speaker 7: You know, when you you and Kevin were talking about

220
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:14,760
Speaker 7: the football game. Last night. I was watching the baseball

221
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,319
Speaker 7: game the world serious, like, okay, it's going to be

222
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,559
Speaker 7: over in a minta gets some rest. You know. That

223
00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 7: game lasted eighteen innings. Eighteen innings and Freddy Frank Freeman

224
00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,920
Speaker 7: hit the home runner, you know, to to finish the

225
00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,920
Speaker 7: game or walk off. It was I think, like one

226
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,640
Speaker 7: of the longest games ever last night.

227
00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,000
Speaker 2: Well, who's your team? Which one? Were you glad to

228
00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:37,679
Speaker 2: stay up that.

229
00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440
Speaker 7: League for I was born in La so I was

230
00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,800
Speaker 7: going with the Dodgers of course.

231
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I knew he was a Dodger fan. That

232
00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,280
Speaker 1: is a happiness morning clip.

233
00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a lot man. You know, when you when

234
00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,480
Speaker 7: you think about America's pastime. I thought about in Madame

235
00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,280
Speaker 7: Jamil l I, me and H. R. Brown in a

236
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 7: statement when he said America is filing as cherry pye.

237
00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, And I'm glad you said that because

238
00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, some people think he said apple pie, but

239
00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,840
Speaker 1: you correct, it was cherry pie. Some people even challenged

240
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,160
Speaker 1: me on that, and I said, go look it up.

241
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,160
Speaker 1: You know I never heard from Obviously they looked it up.

242
00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,559
Speaker 1: Because some people think it's apple pie. It was cherry pie.

243
00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,880
Speaker 1: This is correct, and I was.

244
00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,840
Speaker 7: One of them, so I kept.

245
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I kept.

246
00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,760
Speaker 7: Then I started reading. Oh wait, he said cherry pye

247
00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240
Speaker 7: and I was okay, he said cherry pie again. So yeah,

248
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,480
Speaker 7: and you know, it's amazing that our brother, you know,

249
00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,719
Speaker 7: still with us, uh, you know, struggling right now. You know,

250
00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480
Speaker 7: there's evidence in that case. I read a story I

251
00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,520
Speaker 7: can't kevin something. I read the guy's story who confessed

252
00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,160
Speaker 7: to shooting those policemen in Atlanta. He confessed to do

253
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,400
Speaker 7: with it. And it's still we still got in LA

254
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960
Speaker 7: man still locked up in prison, so he needs to

255
00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,880
Speaker 7: be free, and he's struggling.

256
00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,120
Speaker 8: Man.

257
00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,679
Speaker 7: But it's uh, you know, along with our our good brother.

258
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've spoken to his son. His son has

259
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,680
Speaker 1: talked about that. His son is an attorney, by the way.

260
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so yeah, and it is. I guess I

261
00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520
Speaker 1: won't say they've used to it now because it's been

262
00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,680
Speaker 1: it's been some long these decades, but you because you

263
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440
Speaker 1: never get really get used to it, you know. But

264
00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 1: they've figured out a way how to cope with what's

265
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,040
Speaker 1: going on. And now it's it's as you mentioned, it's

266
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,800
Speaker 1: got some health challenges. And that's another problem, uh for

267
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,240
Speaker 1: the former h rab Brown Jamal l. I mean.

268
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240
Speaker 7: Yes, you know, and and I'm you know, figuring right

269
00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,960
Speaker 7: along with you with your show and your guests and

270
00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,200
Speaker 7: your people. Now I saw their was brother at Pinkney's

271
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,600
Speaker 7: birthday yesterday, and I see Saint Gore's birthday is today, and.

272
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,920
Speaker 1: All right, shout out to brother Sant Gore and and

273
00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,560
Speaker 1: Reverend Pinkney as well and Ben Harvey, the two of

274
00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,600
Speaker 1: our actor his brothers.

275
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,840
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, two my comrades, brother butther uh Saint Gore

276
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,920
Speaker 7: worked together with moving a leadership circle. And also brother Pinton.

277
00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,560
Speaker 7: You know he's right down the street from us in

278
00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480
Speaker 7: Benton Harbor, right down the street from us in Geary

279
00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,520
Speaker 7: in the Chicago area.

280
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200
Speaker 1: So you two, Yeah, those are two fierce brothers, the

281
00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,680
Speaker 1: two uncompromising brothers when it comes to blackness. So yeah,

282
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,120
Speaker 1: happy happy belated Earth Day to both of them.

283
00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

284
00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,840
Speaker 7: And then you got my comrade brother Zaki coming up

285
00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,120
Speaker 7: in a little bit, and also sister Malvo. And my

286
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,280
Speaker 7: first trip to Africa, I was with the summit was

287
00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,320
Speaker 7: of the Leon Sullivant and we were going to Zania,

288
00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,200
Speaker 7: South Africa and with the Zimbabwe also and so we

289
00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,640
Speaker 7: sat I was in the plane right with her and

290
00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,480
Speaker 7: Dick Gregory, Me and Dick greg So I was like, wow,

291
00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,840
Speaker 7: that was my first trip to the Mama Land and

292
00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,680
Speaker 7: got a chance.

293
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, one day you got to share because I

294
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,840
Speaker 1: know that must have been a conversation between Craig, doctor Malvaux,

295
00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,600
Speaker 1: and yourself on that long plane ride.

296
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,720
Speaker 7: You know, I was just listening mostly, but yeah, you

297
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,600
Speaker 7: know it was crazy.

298
00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,400
Speaker 9: As a matter of fact.

299
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,280
Speaker 7: When I was I will say this was real quick

300
00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,800
Speaker 7: because I was reading Malcolm X Speaks. I had that

301
00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,080
Speaker 7: book with me, and then as we were riding, I

302
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 7: wait a minute here he was talking about Dick Gregor.

303
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,400
Speaker 7: They were in the ballroom together and Dick Gregor was

304
00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,960
Speaker 7: speaking and I say, brother Gregory, look a look what

305
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,920
Speaker 7: I'm reading right now. Just your name just came up.

306
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160
Speaker 7: So he was like, man, I remember telling Malcolm you

307
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,040
Speaker 7: need to get out of here, you need to go

308
00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,520
Speaker 7: go somewhere. But he's trying to something about me. Tried

309
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 7: to warn Malcolm, you know, to get out of die right.

310
00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,040
Speaker 1: Who's I thought, right there, brother Creby. And we got

311
00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,200
Speaker 1: to take a short break here and we come back.

312
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,960
Speaker 1: I need to finish your thought. Now let's talk about

313
00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,800
Speaker 1: what the problems happening on our HBCU campuses this weekend

314
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,440
Speaker 1: at the homecoming festivities. Family, you want to join our conversation.

315
00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Brother could be in there to reach out to us

316
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,000
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy

317
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,440
Speaker 1: sixth and we take you phone calls next and Grand

318
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,440
Speaker 1: Rising Family, thanks for waking up with us on this

319
00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. I guess his brother Coreben is an activist

320
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,720
Speaker 1: and before the breaker was telling us about his plane ride.

321
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,160
Speaker 1: We're going to South Africa with with Dick Gregory and

322
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,919
Speaker 1: also with doctor malt Voe and the conversation they're having

323
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,320
Speaker 1: on the plane. So I'll let you finish up that.

324
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,520
Speaker 1: And that's a Mark in Baltimore already has a question

325
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,000
Speaker 1: for you, brother Colbina.

326
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know just that again my very first trip

327
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,560
Speaker 7: home to the Mama Land and just to be with them,

328
00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,679
Speaker 7: you know, during that summer. It was so many people

329
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,360
Speaker 7: on that trip. Of course, Reverend Jackson was with us.

330
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,359
Speaker 7: It was just a bunch of us. Are almost Dorothy

331
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,120
Speaker 7: Height was on there with us. So many, so many

332
00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,840
Speaker 7: good people. And I also remember meeting Kathy slid not Kathy,

333
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,880
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Joony slidge On that trip and I'm looking

334
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,199
Speaker 7: up sa wait a minute, you have Jonie Slids you know,

335
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,440
Speaker 7: of course I'm Tony Sledge. We had a really good

336
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,320
Speaker 7: rap uh one of our beautiful sisters from Sister Sledge,

337
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,080
Speaker 7: and just an amazing trip again going to South Africa.

338
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,280
Speaker 7: Nelson Mandela of course was with us, and then going

339
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 7: over to them by they had a there was a

340
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,000
Speaker 7: demonstration out there and like, wow, what are they demonstrating for?

341
00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,320
Speaker 7: And that's when they first started demonstrating. Well, first time

342
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 7: we saw but one of the early demonstrations for land

343
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,240
Speaker 7: reform when they were trying to get their land back

344
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,879
Speaker 7: and had been told a while back they were going

345
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 7: to get it back, but then England kept renigging on

346
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,119
Speaker 7: the agreement they pay them the money they needed, and

347
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 7: so a couple of years later we saw all the

348
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 7: things that happened with the land reform and kicking those

349
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,240
Speaker 7: people off the farm land and our African brothers and

350
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,360
Speaker 7: sisters and Boba getting their land back since they defeated

351
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 7: Ian Smith back in the day. So they were just

352
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,359
Speaker 7: just eye opening and a great trip to be on

353
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 7: with so many people, so many good people.

354
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 1: That's interesting and fast forward to today they still some

355
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 1: of those Africans are still complaining, and Donald Trump has

356
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: giving them a green light to come into the country,

357
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 1: especially the white farmers who claim they're being victimized by

358
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 1: the black leaders in South Africa. So many of them

359
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 1: are coming here now, and you know, interesting juxtaposed to

360
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 1: them coming in getting money in free Land and there

361
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other folks have been here for

362
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: decades and they're rounding them up and sending them even

363
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 1: to places they've never even been, let alone come from.

364
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, interesting story. Thank you for sharing that with us,

365
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 1: brother Quibina.

366
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 7: Right on, man, right on, And I know we wanted

367
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 7: we got to talk about what's going on that a

368
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 7: lot of people aren't talking about. Like I said, it

369
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 7: was up pretty earlier late watching that game. But also

370
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 7: I was doing a little more research on what's going on,

371
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 7: and I saw an article and the route talking about

372
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 7: what's happening at the HBCUs with all these recent shootings.

373
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 7: So I read through the article and read through it

374
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 7: like I did so many things when we talk about violence,

375
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 7: and one of the things we always leave out is

376
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 7: the music. The music is telling our children and our

377
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 7: you to hate yourself, to hate your people and to

378
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 7: take each other's life. So these HBCUs and other events

379
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 7: that we have, the homecoming events they've been we have

380
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 7: to stay alert because they've been extra violent lately. Just

381
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 7: just in October, there was nine people in one weekend,

382
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 7: on the weekend of the ninth and the twelfth in

383
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 7: Mississippi that got shot and killed, that died in homecoming

384
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 7: events from high school to college homecoming events. Our corn

385
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 7: State a woman died and two other people were injured

386
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 7: as a shooting. A child was shot at the Jackson

387
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 7: State homecoming. And you know why we concerned. I mean,

388
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 7: I finished school at Southern University in Baton Rouge, so

389
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 7: I was at homecoming. Not there before that, I went

390
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 7: to University of Louisiana and Lafayette, Louisiana, and which was

391
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 7: a PWI, a predominantly white institution. And even there there

392
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 7: was a shooting there several years ago. So when we

393
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 7: have to when we go, we have to stay alert,

394
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 7: and we have to understand that when we're going to

395
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 7: these places to celebrate each other, to see our friends,

396
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 7: we gotta we shouldn't have to live like this. There

397
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 7: was this again, there was a shooting at Southern University.

398
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 7: We had a shooting at our last month at the

399
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 7: Tuskegee and Morehouse game in Montgomery, Alabama, and it just

400
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 7: this is just keeps going on and on, and it

401
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 7: keeps happening. A couple of years in Southern University, I

402
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 7: think there was like eleven people shot, and they said, well,

403
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 7: it didn't happen on campus. What happened at the Kappa House,

404
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 7: which is like it's like you step right across the right,

405
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 7: across the yard, or you take one step before you

406
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 7: go over the hump. The Kappa House is there at

407
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 7: Southern University in back Rouge. So before that particular shooting,

408
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 7: there was a concert and at that concert was Freedo Bang,

409
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 7: Nardo Wick and the City Girls. All this that probably

410
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 7: most of our listeners have never even heard of. I

411
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 7: would ask people, if you get a chance to look up,

412
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 7: I think who Wants Smoke? Or I think it's called

413
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 7: Who Wants Smoke by Nardo Wick. If Nardo Wick is

414
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 7: little Dirk who's locked up in prison right now. Not

415
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 7: in prison, he's in jail. He's going to be going

416
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 7: to trial soon. It's twenty one Savage and it's also

417
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 7: a rapper named Ge herbal or a little least called

418
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 7: Little Herbs g Herbert and the video at the last

419
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 7: time I check, had forty million views. Forty million. It

420
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 7: is a well put together video about massacring and shooting

421
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 7: and killing ends, that's what it is. And so many

422
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 7: people watching them. Again, a lot of us are dos

423
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 7: have never even heard of this dude. So Southern University

424
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 7: brings these people to a concert for homecoming. So right

425
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 7: after the concert, right across the street from the center,

426
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 7: there's a shooting where eleven people get shot. And with

427
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 7: these what our people were doing, they're following the instructions

428
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 7: given to them in this music. That's all we're doing,

429
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 7: is simply doing the same thing happens.

430
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm jumping here for a second, brother Corberan, now, because

431
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: you know the sad part about it, because it's just

432
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: like numbers. You're just rolling off these numbers. And I know,

433
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: but there's people, there's families behind each one of those victims.

434
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: But we've become so I guess, inoculating to the violence now,

435
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: the slaughter of our people. It's just just numbers eleven, twelve,

436
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: four five, you know, and the people, the victims, their

437
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: families are outraged they've lost the loved one and they

438
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: have to deal with it. Well, for us, it's just numbers.

439
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: We become impervious to what's going on. How do we

440
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: get people to sympathize with what's going on, because I

441
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: think if people could identify with the loss of life,

442
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 1: they would think differently about how it all started. This

443
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: is what you're going to share with us. Why these

444
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: shootings are taking place on our campuses.

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 7: It's been normalized now, and it's so sad. I mean,

446
00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 7: when we're touched personally by it, of course it's a struggle. Meant,

447
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 7: I think I understand that at Lincoln University yesterday school

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 7: was out and they were doing counseling and all that,

449
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 7: no classes, But it's been normalized. It's just like I said,

450
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 7: Southern a couple of years ago, it was eleven and

451
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 7: it was had one shot the other day. You know,

452
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 7: there was listening to these reports about what happened at Howard.

453
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 7: I mean I was there last year in DC for

454
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 7: homecoming weekend, and some of the people who were with

455
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 7: us for the Newbold Leadership Circle summit last year had

456
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 7: came in to leave and go to the Howard homecoming.

457
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 7: People who graduated from there who just wanted to go

458
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 7: hang out. And that's what a lot of people do.

459
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 7: Because the one student they said who was shot, one

460
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 7: of the students who was shot at Howard was not

461
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 7: a Howard University student, they said. I think they said

462
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 7: he came from Boolie State. And I was going to

463
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 7: give the example. And this may be some more numbers,

464
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 7: but this is like how pervasive this is. I think

465
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 7: I don't think it was last year, maybe even before

466
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 7: last there was a shooting at the homecoming week at

467
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 7: Morgan State, and so what they had to do was

468
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 7: they canceled the rest of the homecoming fixtivities to cancel

469
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 7: the concert. And I believe the concert there, I know

470
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 7: that was. I think Glorilla was performing and again Glo Gorilla.

471
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 7: When people call us, we used to call us gorillas,

472
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 7: we'd be offended. But this sister gets the name for

473
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 7: herself out of Memphis. Gloria is her name, and they

474
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 7: make it Goloilla, and she's one of the hottest female rappers.

475
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 7: It's been out for the last several years. So so

476
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 7: this concert at Morgan State or homecoming facilities, they were canceled.

477
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 7: Buoye States invites them well, come on over to our

478
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 7: our you know, celebrate with us. Well, I think she's

479
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 7: supposed to be performing there too, and there was a

480
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 7: shooting there also for their homecoming marked with a shooting.

481
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 7: So again, these these rap artists that are being promoted

482
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 7: by this music industry, this is what they tell us

483
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 7: to do. Ninety percent of the songs they played drop

484
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 7: in bombs about ninety percent. Further, our women focus bes

485
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 7: and h's and it's close to the saying that brags

486
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 7: about and encourages us to shoot and kill each other

487
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 7: in this music. Our music used to love us, they said. Oh,

488
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 7: I think one of the things the people from the

489
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 7: Zulu nation used to say, a chrs One wust say

490
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 7: it would be about peace, love, unity and having fun.

491
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 7: Now it's about war, hate, individualism and despair and despair,

492
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 7: and that's what you talk about what people are going

493
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 7: through with these families are going through when we just

494
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 7: shoot out to spit out these numbers. But it's been

495
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 7: so many for the car and again, what it's putting

496
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 7: the fuel on these fraticidal fires that are taking place

497
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 7: right now is this ignorant killed black people music. The

498
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 7: lyrics in this music, it's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable that

499
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 7: it's been allowed to happen, and it's unbelievable at times

500
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 7: that we have not organized properly and put a stop

501
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 7: to it.

502
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: Right thirty minutes, that's the brother Coubina and I all

503
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: got some folks want to talk to you. So let's

504
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: stake some calls because you stated the case, and let's

505
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: go to line too. Marks in Baltimore City has a

506
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: question for your Grand Rise and Market on my brother Cubina.

507
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: Yes, good morning, Jimmy. This is a really I have

508
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: to admit to you. This is the first time I've

509
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: heard an extensive shock on this whole campus shootings and

510
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: the like. It does one to know where's the administration,

511
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: where's the community, where's the campus ministries? You know the

512
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 4: chaplains on these campuses. Well what do they say? Are

513
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: they trying to get involved in this to you know,

514
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: helping the families out, helping the young people out, students

515
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: and alumni and community members. I haven't heard too much.

516
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: You keep talking about the shootings, Well what is the

517
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: administration or campus ministry is doing to help quill some

518
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 4: of these problems and all that? It's more than just

519
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: a music issue and all that. It seems to attack

520
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: the family and the community in the foundation of what

521
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: university stands for. So what's happening with that? Thank you.

522
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Thanks mar So brother quick being

523
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: it because obviously when they're homecomings, they know that this

524
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: may happen. And I think what Mark is alluding to

525
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: is the fact that did the campus security, the campus administration,

526
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: did they put any provisions in place knowing that this

527
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: may happen.

528
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 7: No, No, their heads are insane. I think there's one

529
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: administrator of a couple of years ago we heard I

530
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 7: think it may have been Hampton University they said, we're

531
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 7: not having none of this. Can't if you they monitor

532
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 7: what they're bringing to their concerts and they look at

533
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 7: the lyrics and say, Nope, not coming. The rest of

534
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 7: them got their head understand, it's ridiculous. All they have

535
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 7: to do is just listen to the lyrics of these artists.

536
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 7: And because.

537
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: But again that the administrators that are probably older cats

538
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: like like we are now, were on familiar with some

539
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: of these young artists. So she usually the people on

540
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: campus who pick the artists to show up and provide

541
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: that kind of information that negative information on the stage

542
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: leads to what you're talking about, the violence. So shouldn't

543
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: they vet these artists or just like any other person

544
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: that's coming on campus should be vetted thoroughly. Isn't there

545
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: some you know, something that they should be doing when

546
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: if they're bringing the artists or even a speaker, they

547
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: should be totally vetted before they're allowed to on campus.

548
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yes.

549
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 7: Yes, because we have this uptick in Fraschisado, this horizontal

550
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 7: violence going on in the black community. They should be vetted.

551
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 7: People should do. They should do just as the administration

552
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 7: at Hampton University did and said, no, you're wrapping, calling

553
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 7: us in, you're rapping, telling us to take each other's

554
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 7: life and disrespecting our women. No, you're not coming. Yeah,

555
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 7: but we love NBA young boy, but we okay, great,

556
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 7: but we're not gonna We're not gonna sanction it here

557
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 7: on this campus. The music and not only does it

558
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 7: promote violence, it dumbs us down. It dumbs us down.

559
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 7: So I mean there it is. So yeah, the brother

560
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 7: is correct that we have to have a movement or

561
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 7: more touring against bringing those ratchet kill black people artists.

562
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 7: As pushed by this evil grown audio pedophile maybe European

563
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: pedophile record executives, and who pushed that poison on the

564
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 7: masses of our people. The stuff is taking is killing us.

565
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 7: It's killing us mentally and physically.

566
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: All right, twenty six Away from the Top, Bob's checking

567
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: in from Buffalo's Online three Grand Rising Bobby on my

568
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 1: brother Karbay.

569
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 10: Now, yes they're busted.

570
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 11: Love.

571
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 10: I just wanted to thank the brother for mentioning and

572
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 10: bringing up the name of Jamil Alaman.

573
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 12: Most of us seemed to have forgotten the brother's languachine

574
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 12: and suffering, and I want to recommend his book, Revolution

575
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 12: by the Book, so people can, you know, do the

576
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 12: research and find out what the brother is talking about.

577
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 12: And I just wanted to comment on this Ice Agency thing.

578
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 12: Who they are, who they are not. We need to

579
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 12: control the narrative and stop thinking that they're trying to

580
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 12: arrest criminals, is trying to meet a quota, And you

581
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 12: don't know who those people are behind those masks. I

582
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 12: think they're primarily January sixth survivors. You know, we got

583
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 12: to stop buying into the narrative and we got to

584
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 12: understand that we're behind enemy lines and we're dealing with

585
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 12: agents doant or unknown paid or unpaid.

586
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 11: And we got to also remind people that there are

587
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 11: agent provocateurs who are trying to start some crap. So

588
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 11: you know, we can't fall for the Okido can remember

589
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 11: we're behind enemy lines and we're fighting and working for

590
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 11: survival of ourselves and our future. To those are the

591
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 11: comments that I had. But thank you brother for mentioning

592
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 11: Jamil All.

593
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 7: I mean, man, right on, brother, you know we have

594
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: to uplift our freedom fighters. Man and again that's a

595
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 7: brother who's been doing it for a while, constantly evolves.

596
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 7: Who's still with us? And man, he's free, Imam, Jamil,

597
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 7: l me Man three and all three all our political Christmas.

598
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if we don't salute them, who will? But

599
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: check it out. We've got to step aside and get

600
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: caught up in the latest news, trafficking weather in a

601
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: different cities. We come back. Diana's calling from La has

602
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: a question or comment for you. Family, YouTube can join

603
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: our conversation with our guests. He's an activist. Brother Quibina,

604
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: you can reach out to us at eight hundred four

605
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Discussing the violence

606
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: perpetrated or caused by some of the music lyrics that

607
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: are being played by our young people. What are your thoughts?

608
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Reach out to us again. A telephone number is eight

609
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and

610
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: we'll take a phone calls after the news that's next

611
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us

612
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: on this Tuesday morning. We're eighteen minutes away from the

613
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: top of the out with our guest, brother Quibina. He's

614
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: an activist, and you're talking about the shootings on our

615
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: campuses HBCU campuses and some of those shootings, he says,

616
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: we're caused by some of the lyrics, some of the

617
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: music that our young people enjoy. Before we go back

618
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: to him, oh, let me just remind you come up

619
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: late this morning. We're gonna speak with economist doctor Julian Malveaux. Also,

620
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: we're going to speak with phil Phil Smith. He's president

621
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: of the National African American Gun Association. She says, a

622
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of folks are signing up like in a surgeon

623
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: membership fulfill. The President General the Universal of African People's Organization,

624
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Brother Zachi Breuty, will introduce us to to Cuban Freedom

625
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: fight US and later this week a future heuristic researcher,

626
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Brother Saideka Baccari, will be here along with New York

627
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: media analysts and Wayne Gilman and Reggie Thomas will also

628
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: join us. So, if you are in Baltimore, I shure

629
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: you keep you radio locked in tight on ten ten

630
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: WLB or free end of the DMV. We're on FM,

631
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: We're on AM. I'm sorry, fourteen fifty WL or information

632
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: is power? All right? Family? As I mentioned, Brother Quibinas

633
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: with us, and before we left for the news update,

634
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Diane is calling from LA. Has a question or a

635
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: comment from She's online two grand rising. Diane, you're on

636
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: with Brother Quibina.

637
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 13: Blether Cot.

638
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 14: What I like to know?

639
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 13: Can can you approach the president at our Black colleges

640
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 13: and if you could teach a course on what this

641
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 13: music means and what it's doing to the community. Of

642
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 13: course I believe needs to be taught. I mean they

643
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 13: have some of the colleges have making stallin teaching a

644
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 13: course Kendrick Lamar and other rappers teaching a course about

645
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 13: their music. Can you approach the Black college presidents and

646
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 13: see if a course can't be taught I think that

647
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 13: would help.

648
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 15: Thank you so much.

649
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 7: Yes, an excellent question. And you know, if there was

650
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 7: a course or just a seminar, I don't, we don't

651
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: even All we mean is just a couple of courses

652
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 7: or a couple of seminars just to talk about the lyrics,

653
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 7: just to talk about what they're saying and what they're

654
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 7: promoting to the masses. We have a piece that we've

655
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 7: been sharing about working with the Clear the Airways project,

656
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 7: and if you just look up clear the Airways and

657
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 7: airways as in ocean waves would it be? And just

658
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 7: look up the Sad State of Black Music survey, and

659
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 7: you see so many people who asked them just sent

660
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 7: me three questions. The percentage of music in your peers

661
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 7: listen to that drop the embomb on us, the senters

662
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 7: that refers to our women, folks, our sisters, our mamas,

663
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 7: our daughters, our wives, our grandmama's, our girlfriends as bees

664
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 7: and h's. And the last question is the percentage of

665
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 7: music that brags about and encourages us to shooting and

666
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 7: killing of black people. I'm telling you seventy eighty ninety

667
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 7: percent is the answer in each case, pretty much. The

668
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 7: last one of the last brothers we talked to is

669
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 7: calmly said, oh, ninety five to the first one, dropping

670
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 7: using the mbombs, dropping mbombs on us ninety five, referring

671
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 7: to our women as bees and HS one hundred when

672
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 7: he said, talks about bragging and encouraging us to take

673
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 7: each other's life in the music that we listen to,

674
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: it's so sad, brother, It's so sad, and you know

675
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 7: it's been normalized. I mean, just to listen to Kendrick

676
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 7: Perkins the other day, the first night of the NBA

677
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 7: season refer to the NBA Young Boy's concerts selling out.

678
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 7: I mean, they had to cancel this brother's concert in

679
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 7: Chicago and Detroit, in Atlanta, and I'm in Louisiana last

680
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 7: week of struggling with a young relative of mine, a

681
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 7: female relative who wants to go to the NBA Young

682
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: Boy Concert in New Orleans. I'm like, y'all, just don't

683
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: don't you understand? So a couple of years ago, there

684
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 7: was fifteen people shot at a church at a funeral

685
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 7: at a church in Chicago, one sister had her breast

686
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 7: shot off. And turn the radio on and they playing

687
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 7: NBA Young Boy two songs in a row, I don't

688
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 7: know what the first song was about. Then the songs

689
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 7: from him come on about shooting you in your face

690
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 7: in the middle of the day. These are the stations

691
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 7: that charm and are children.

692
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: All right?

693
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 14: Yes, I'm still there.

694
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 13: Well, thank you. That's a great idea about a seminar,

695
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 13: and I will look up that in nation. But a

696
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 13: seminar is needed, or a class at piece of black colleges,

697
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 13: and I will look up airways.

698
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 16: Thank you, Thank you.

699
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: Diane, and brother could being a as you mentioned, have

700
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: a you know, I think you sort of preaching to

701
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the choir if you have these, you know, these these

702
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: discussions about some of these artists. We've got to get

703
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: to the root of it. Why why are young people

704
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: attracted to music like that? It's something psychological to work

705
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: here that I think we need a doctor Wilson to

706
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: come in and and sit on a couch and figure

707
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: out why why are you attracted some music that that

708
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: talks about killing each other, downgrading each other. There's something,

709
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, something beyond my scope that that needs that.

710
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's the root of the problem. It's not

711
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: just the music, because because we hear that music, it

712
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: doesn't We're not going out there. I want to go

713
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: to a gloryal concert or the guy that you mentioned

714
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: that he's talking about shooting up and using debasing language

715
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: about our people. That doesn't that doesn't motivate us, and

716
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure it doesn't matter a lot of other young

717
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: people too. When they hear these songs and these lyrics,

718
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: they sime, man, that's that's not that's a big that's

719
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: a huge turn off. So the ones that are excited

720
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: about these artists that that put us down, those are

721
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: the ones that we have. We have to reach. How

722
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: can we do that? You have any thoughts?

723
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, twer Power broke it down in the song. That's

724
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 7: why music is so important, has such an influence. That's

725
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 7: way back in the day called what is It? People

726
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 7: want to be here. I want to be hipping when

727
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 7: who's another nuthers? I want to be here to make

728
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 7: life the crowd, not even the girl over from them

729
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: from the skylights. People want to be hip and they

730
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 7: make it hip. They make it, they promoted and push

731
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 7: it all the time. You mentioned Doctor Wellson, which right

732
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 7: once she made transition. This was listened to one of

733
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 7: her raps and twenty four minute mark of this rap,

734
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 7: she said rap music has annihilated the self respect of

735
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 7: black people annihilated. And we constantly said that, and you know, people,

736
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 7: you can't say it overall. Okay, Yeah, there's different conscious artists.

737
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 7: There'ferent artists out there who pushed some great music right there.

738
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 7: We do a conscious hip hop show. They been doing

739
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 7: us for twenty six years, how to Gary Indiana's called

740
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 7: a weekly rap Up. We played conscious hip hop, classics, funk,

741
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 7: and we mellow it up. So this is what we do.

742
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 7: So we understand that. But she's right, And I said,

743
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 7: y'all tell us what she's wrong. And people can't do it. Oh,

744
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, you they tell us, they can't. They

745
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 7: can't tell them what she's wrong. She was correct in

746
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 7: her analysis of what this music is doing to the

747
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: minds of the masters of our people, and they force

748
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 7: feed it on us, Like I said, Kendrick Perkins mitrom India,

749
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 7: young boy. And you know you've had us on previously

750
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 7: with myself and doctor McIntosh from the Committee to Eliminate

751
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 7: Media offensive to African people dealing with this whole piece

752
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: for this Good Times reboot. This is a show where

753
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 7: they got three rappers named Baby Little Baby, the baby

754
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 7: and baby baby pulling the gun and shooting at a

755
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 7: two year old baby depicted in the cartoon who's slanging drugs,

756
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 7: whose daddy has kicked him in the house for slanging drudgs.

757
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 7: And here we have the greatest shooter in the history

758
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 7: of the NBA, who's even this year coming out just

759
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: going crazy so far this year, the greatest suitor being

760
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 7: the executive producer of this cartoon that de pics black

761
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 7: people as as just horribly depicts our people with twelve

762
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 7: year old girls using them, mistel blood and throw it

763
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 7: in the face of other twelve year old children.

764
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, they got ten away from the top there Again,

765
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: there's there's got to be something that that you and

766
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: I are not going to go and listen to them.

767
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Be a young boy. But you you said your niece,

768
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: I think you said in Louisiana wanted to go to

769
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: the concert and you were explained. Why did you ask

770
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: her why she wanted to go and hear that is

771
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: be debased, that I be talked down and called out

772
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: of a naghbor? Did you try to figure out why

773
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: she appreach appreciates that kind of music?

774
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do. One of one of my other cousin

775
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 7: asked me, say, you need to ask another question when

776
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 7: I do the survey, ask the why. I don't know

777
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 7: why already, but I think they're correct who make them think?

778
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 7: And we talked about that with family and I said,

779
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 7: don't you know what your uncle? Your uncle does with

780
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 7: the work we do, you know, But it's so hard

781
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 7: because it's been it's been popularized, and it's it's what's

782
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 7: what everybody with so many people like and they think

783
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 7: it's okay to drop to have in bombs dropped on.

784
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: The women think it's cool. He's not talking about me

785
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 7: when he's calling me a bee. Oh yeah, he's talking

786
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 7: about me. And matter of fact, it's got so hard,

787
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 7: so horrible with the women now that the women are

788
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 7: calling themselves bees and disrespecting themselves. And not all of them,

789
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: but these are the ones that they plan promote and push.

790
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 7: The Megan, the Megan Peek I received the call her

791
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 7: a male certain sized horse because he's not a stallion. Uh.

792
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 7: But the Megan piece, the Latteaus, the City Girls that

793
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 7: we mentioned earlier, the Cardi Bees, the Glow Realist, the

794
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 7: xy Reds, the second as well. It's just still you know,

795
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 7: if you're hear it. You can hear the exasperation of

796
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 7: my voice today. It's just a still unbelievable that we

797
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 7: can go from to Sledge and we talked about Jones.

798
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 7: We can go from the Jones Girls, We can go

799
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 7: from Philip Seymon and with me and those you know

800
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 7: who've displayed class, they had struggles. You know, a couple

801
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 7: of people who talked about you know, they've had struggles.

802
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 7: One of the members of the Jones Girls, you know,

803
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 7: buy alcohol abuals. So we know what happened to Whitney

804
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 7: and to Phyllips, But they're not putting that in their

805
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 7: music to push to the masters of our people, to

806
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 7: the masters of our young girls. But now it's all

807
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 7: bets off and it's killing us, Like doctor Wellson said,

808
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 7: it is annihilated and self respect for black people. In

809
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 7: two thousand and twenty twenty, there were two hundred rappers

810
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 7: who died, just the rappers, two hundred rappers who died.

811
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 7: In twenty twenty one, there was two hundred and fifty.

812
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: Of the two hundred and fifty who died, two hundred

813
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: of those died from gun violence, from gun violence from

814
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 7: what they promote and push in the music, something happened.

815
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: Would you say they ate away from the top Yet, brother, Clive,

816
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: you're saying that they they embellished that lifestyle. That's part

817
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: of the lifestyle. That what they're singing about, they're actually

818
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: living that kind of lifestyle.

819
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 17: Yeah.

821
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 7: It used to be like for the Boss I think

822
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: was her name and sister back in the nineties, she

823
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: was talking all this stuff about violence, and they looked

824
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 7: at their background and she ain't even living like that.

825
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 7: But nowadays, brother, I'm telling you, a lot more of

826
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 7: them are embellishing. This embellish and it's not done by accident.

827
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 7: It's not done by accident. I can't I wish I

828
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 7: could find a quote from Kwame Toure when he was

829
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 7: speaking at One Brath. He was talking about the system.

830
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 7: Just all these deaths and all this killers over here.

831
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 7: They just sit back counter numbers. There's no big deal

832
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 7: in them. It's what they plan on doing. This stuff

833
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 7: is done purposely. I even go back to Frederick Jaffie

834
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 7: and the Jackie Memo where they were doing where they

835
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 7: were dealing with population control, and they put five things

836
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 7: in I think that we had to do. One of

837
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 7: them was depicted in the movie Three to Hard where

838
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: the Fred Williamson, Jim Brown and Jim Kelly. But they

839
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 7: put things in the water that our brothers stopped that

840
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 7: in that movie. But the other thing.

841
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 18: Was promoting abortions, promoting mohmes homosexuality. And I can't recall

842
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 18: what the other one was, but the prison industrial complex.

843
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 18: They've probably added that one on. And we was African people.

844
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 7: Sell so this stuff's hook line and singer thinking, and

845
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 7: this is what it is, brother. I mean, it was

846
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 7: around the tent ofd century when we heard the fact

847
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 7: that thirty percent of Black women in their thirties had

848
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 7: never been married. I was like, that's crazy, and I

849
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: started thinking about my friends in that age range, and

850
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 7: the sisters said, wow, well this one she then I'm married.

851
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

852
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 7: But twenty five years later, twenty five years later, it's

853
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 7: up to around fifty percent of Black women, not in

854
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: the thirties, but of marrying age, up to fifty percent

855
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: had never been married, never been married. And my question is,

856
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 7: who's gonna marry her? Why would I want to marry

857
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 7: a woman when as a child content I've been intergating

858
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 7: with music telling me that them ages ain't loyal. There

859
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 7: ain't nothing to cut that be off, or I would

860
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 7: never wifeer. I'm the only one nighter. Women full of lize.

861
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 7: I just f them and pass them to my guys.

862
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 7: This is a hot rotation on radio stations that target

863
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 7: African children. It's been happening right now again for over

864
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 7: a quarter of a century, and we can't take another

865
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 7: quarter of a century of this. We have to organize

866
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 7: properly and put a stop to this. We have to

867
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 7: protect our children, our children, our children. They cannot send

868
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 7: for themselves. It requires us to protect them. They need

869
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 7: our protection, they want our protection, and we're not. We're

870
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 7: litting in this industry. Take our children out, rape, mind

871
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 7: raping and a mind assault of the minds of our

872
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: children with this ratchet killed black people's death music that

873
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 7: they play. They have to be stopped.

874
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, people listen to you probably agree, But the question

875
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: is how do we do that? Brother quick being ever listen,

876
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Sister Serena in La has a question for you. But

877
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: we got to step aside and get caught up in

878
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the ladies' trafficing weather in a different stations. We come back,

879
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: We'll speak to sister Serta family. You're listening to us

880
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: at Brother Cribbina. He's gone all out on this music.

881
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: It calls the deaf music killer music. We saw what

882
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: happened on some of our college campuses over the festivities

883
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: homecom festivities this week, last week and previous weeks. And

884
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: who's going to put us stop there? What are your thoughts?

885
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: You want to join this conversation, give us some ideas.

886
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four to five

887
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight to seventy six and we take a

888
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: phone calls after the traffic and weather this next and

889
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Graham Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this

890
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. I guess is a brother Quibina is an activist.

891
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: He's been fighting against some of the lyrics, some of

892
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: the music of the some of our young I use

893
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: that word quite a bit. Some of our young people

894
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: used and engage in and I love glorifying shootings and

895
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: deaths and the destruction of our people, something that Dr Wilson,

896
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier, warned us about that would take place.

897
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: Now they don't have to do anything. We were doing

898
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: it by ourselves. We're taking ourselves out with this self hate.

899
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: A brother quabinas as I mentioned, sister Serrita's calling from

900
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: La has a question or a comment for issues online

901
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: to Grand Rising Sister Serena, Brother Coubina, Good.

902
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 19: Morning and Grand Rising Carl. Thank you for taking my call,

903
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 19: but I wanted to act. I definitely understand his frustration

904
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 19: regarding the younger generation actually would are considered our children. However,

905
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 19: you know, where was the energy when Snoop Dogg, Doctor

906
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 19: dre So, the the late boomers, well on end too,

907
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 19: gen X, who were, as you called it, mind raping.

908
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 19: You know, our our culture, our you know, our our

909
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 19: babies basically. You know, I recall being under the hypnosis

910
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 19: of listening to uh the lyrics that I grew up

911
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 19: with being a Californian and stuff like that. But I'm

912
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 19: trying to figure out where.

913
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 14: Are Where was that energy then?

914
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 19: Were you a part of the listening ear of those

915
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 19: lyrics back then? You know, again, I understand your frustration.

916
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 19: I was talking to my daughters who are twenty six,

917
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 19: and I was telling them and asking questions regarding the

918
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 19: different rappers now, the female and male rappers, and they

919
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 19: were saying to me, well, Mom, you know in your

920
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 19: time there was Little Kim, Yes there was. And so

921
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 19: I told them I said yes. Then I said, but

922
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 19: there was also Queen Latifa and others that we listened to too.

923
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 19: But I just want to know, you know, are we

924
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 19: spanking everyone across the board, the girl, the ladies and

925
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 19: the young men, and what do you suggest that should

926
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 19: be done regarding you know us, you know, directing, redirecting them,

927
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 19: because basically we directed them in this in this direction,

928
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 19: we did that, then that's just we have to accept

929
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 19: accountability on that, and that is they grew up with it,

930
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 19: they listen to it, and so what is your suggestion.

931
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 19: I'm like Carl on this one in the sense of

932
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 19: then now that we know the issue, then what next?

933
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 19: Because now I have grandchildren, and let's say I do here.

934
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 19: I've switched it up to where all of my rap

935
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 19: is clean. So look, just just I just want to

936
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 19: touch on that because I noticed that it's we're pointing

937
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 19: fingers at the babies we raised, and so now what

938
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 19: where do we go from here? What's the solution?

939
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 20: Now?

940
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 19: Now, now let's let's talk about the solution and I'll

941
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 19: take my comments off there.

942
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 7: Thank you, great, great question. You know, I was I

943
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 7: was awake in dj In at a skating ring in

944
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 7: Louisiana and Patterson Louisiana. I was in college. Young sister

945
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 7: comes up. She wants to hear throw that d from

946
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 7: the two Life two. I'm not playing that for you.

947
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 7: You a child. I'm not playing at it here. Uh,

948
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 7: she's right. I would when I was in college DJ

949
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 7: in I would play Gangster Gangster by n w A.

950
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 7: But I would play the clean version. Give aboutself a

951
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 7: little pass. But I will tell you we've been on this.

952
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 7: We've been with the struggle for a while. I've been

953
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 7: I was with See the Lowis Tucker for a while.

954
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 7: See the Lawis Tucker was absolutely correct. It seems like

955
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 7: if you if you're up with hip hop, you have

956
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 7: to you have to love jay Z, you have to

957
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 7: hate See the Loris Tucker, See the Lords Tucker was

958
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 7: absolutely correct with with the work that she was doing.

959
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 7: If we and we had a form in Chicago a

960
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 7: couple of years ago, Bob Blah was there and Maggie

961
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 7: Brown was there's just so many peoples here dealing with

962
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 7: the issue of this music. And uh, they started talking

963
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 7: I see Lords Tucker, and I was like, wait a minute.

964
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 7: We had these signists said black women are not bees

965
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 7: and ahs and with a picture of some beautiful sisters

966
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 7: on the poster. I said, if we had listened to

967
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: see the dors Tucker, we would not to have we

968
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 7: would not have to have these embarrassing posters up here

969
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 7: at this conference, at the symposium we're having here in

970
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 7: Chicago at Hockey mat of bodoties, our schools talking about

971
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 7: our having to express that our women aren't bees and

972
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 7: ass and so some of the solutions that we have.

973
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 7: The brother called was a brother or sister who called

974
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 7: earlier who talked about getting with these HBCU presidents and

975
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 7: these administrations. No, they can't come. We're not going to

976
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 7: If you're going to be making songs aby killing people

977
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 7: and disrespecting our women and calla's nds, you can't come

978
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 7: to our homecoming concert. We have to put our foot down.

979
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: We have to ask you this though. The brother quib

980
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: is there a hidden hand, because usually you know, we

981
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: would look around. Is there a hidden hand who's promoting

982
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: this kind of music? Because I'm sure, like you say,

983
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: you've do a show and Gary and you use clean

984
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: good rappers, but those are the other ones that are

985
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: not being played you know on commercial radio stations that

986
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: those are being heard. Is there a hidden handles pushing

987
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: this kind of garbage music to young people?

988
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 7: Absolutely. Paul Porter from Industry Ears and Melissa Figure put

989
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 7: in a lot of good work along this end for

990
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: so many years. But his book Blackout he talks about that,

991
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 7: he breaks it down. My comrade Nard Kramer, who works

992
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 7: with us with the Clear Airways project, he has a

993
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 7: book out called Who Stole the Soul? The Weaponization of

994
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 7: Hip Hop? Hip Hop hypocrisy from our coach, Alfred Paul

995
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 7: Alfred Powell out of Dayton, Ohio, the funk capital of

996
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 7: the world. So it's out there.

997
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: We know what it is.

998
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 7: We know what it's an evil industry who has who

999
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 7: obviously hates us, who's scared of us, who are dumbing

1000
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 7: down our children, dumbing down up with the revolutionary youth

1001
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 7: who would be resisting so many things that have happened

1002
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 7: to day, but they got him done down with this materialism, this, this, this, uh,

1003
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 7: the sensationalism of it. Yeah, so it is a hitting hand,

1004
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 7: but we can stop them. So we There was a

1005
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 7: group called Rage against the Ratchet out of Philadelphia and

1006
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 7: they would file complaints constantly with the sec about the

1007
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 7: music being played on these killer radio stations. They even

1008
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 7: brought one radio station under and out of out of Delaware.

1009
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 7: They had to stop doing what they were doing.

1010
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 21: Uh.

1011
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 7: They had a resolution at the City Council of Wilmington,

1012
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 7: Delaware passed quit airways, followed project followed suit with what

1013
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 7: they did, and we had the resolution passed in Gary, Indiana.

1014
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 7: So he said, you know what, let's take this to

1015
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 7: the largest city in the country. So along with Simul

1016
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: Tap along with doctor E. Fay Williams in the National

1017
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 7: Congress of Black Women and the Newbie and the National

1018
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 7: Black Leadership Alliance with Bob Law, we got Representative at

1019
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 7: the time and as Baron and others to sponsor a

1020
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: resolution condemning to kill black people radio stations in New

1021
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 7: York City. And the resolution was heard, but it sits dormant.

1022
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 7: It's been sitting dormant for the past five years, six

1023
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 7: years now right there in the City Council of New York.

1024
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 7: Have they been saying that stuff about any other race,

1025
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 7: any other group of people. We would have to be

1026
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 7: waiting for five years. A matter of fact, we wouldn't

1027
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 7: even had to make the resolution, but no, so these

1028
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 7: are the ones. So we got to get that resolution

1029
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 7: in of the FCC the Clear Airways project. We filed

1030
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 7: formal complaints with the Federal Communications Commission, asking them or

1031
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 7: demanding that they uphold their decency standards. That the FCC

1032
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 7: has decency standards, and we demanded that they uphold them.

1033
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 7: The attorneys from these radio conglomerates had to respond. They

1034
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 7: responded to our complaints, and it took the FCC almost

1035
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 7: a year to respond, and in both cases they sided

1036
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 7: with the radio stations against the people, claiming that their licensees,

1037
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 7: they trust that their licensees will provide content that is

1038
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 7: beneficial to us listeners, like telling African children in Chicago

1039
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 7: that it's okay to uh to deal with throat babies,

1040
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 7: or or playing spot him got him talking about he's

1041
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 7: gonna shoot in your back and knock to knock your

1042
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 7: dreads off, that this was okay. So the Federal Communications

1043
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 7: Commission sided with to kill black radio that kill black people,

1044
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 7: radio stations that target our youth. But we got to

1045
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 7: stay on them. So these are the things we must do.

1046
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 7: We must hit the sponsors right, and we.

1047
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: Just flat out of time. Brother Kuban, I wish you'd

1048
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: have brought that up early here because it's important. But

1049
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: listen because we got one of your comrades and brother

1050
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Zaqui Brudy on deck waiting for us, and we got

1051
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: where we gotta let you go. Before we let you go,

1052
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: how can folks reach you if they want to help

1053
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: you in this crusade, because you've been doing this for

1054
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: quite some time. How can they reach you?

1055
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 7: Clear thee Airways Project dot org is our website that

1056
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 7: we got to update that. You could also have to

1057
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 7: hit us on a quit Airways project on Facebook and

1058
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 7: h you'll definitely get a hold of us. Doctor Barruti.

1059
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 7: I mean our brother Zaqui Berruti was with us. We

1060
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 7: had we were building out in front against Murder Music

1061
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 7: in Atlanta a couple of years ago, and he was

1062
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 7: one of the people who was with us out there.

1063
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 7: So this is an ongoing struggle. But we can stop them.

1064
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 7: We must stop them, because they're not gonna stop unless

1065
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 7: we make them stop. So we have to organize and

1066
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 7: put it into this to this practicidey's taking place in

1067
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 7: the black community.

1068
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Well, I just want to thank you for speaking up

1069
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: because somebody's got to step up and that's what you've done.

1070
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: So I want to thank you and keep us in

1071
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: the loop. Let us know how we can help you.

1072
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 22: We'll do.

1073
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 7: Brother, you helped you up tremendously today. Man, I appreciate

1074
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 7: you one love all right.

1075
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: That's brother Cubina and he's been finding this or these,

1076
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: these these lyrics that some of our young folks are

1077
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: just mesmerized with them loving the music. Some of them

1078
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: say they don't hear that. They just like the beat,

1079
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: they don't hear the words. But obviously this is a

1080
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: situation where where we wish we had a Dr Welson.

1081
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: It just put all them on account so she can

1082
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: analyze them, all right, Family ten half the top there

1083
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: before we go to brother Zaki. Lem's giving an update

1084
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: on this killer storm that's on the steps of Jamaica.

1085
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 8: Now.

1086
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: They say the winds are gusting up to two hundred

1087
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: and forty one two one hundred and forty one miles

1088
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: per hour. That's the strongest wind gusts ever mentioned ever

1089
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: in a hurricane. So it's gonna cut through Jamaica's gonna

1090
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: flatten that island, and then it's gonna go through Cuba,

1091
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: the southern part of Cuba as well through the Bahamas

1092
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: and maybe if it's still got life, its sights are

1093
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: set on Bermuda, So we've got to reach out for

1094
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters, uh and the Caribbean who who

1095
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: were you know, looking at straight dead on on this stuff.

1096
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Because there's reading some reports and focus saying they're not

1097
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: going anywhere, they're not moving. That always happens. You're gonna

1098
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: have those folks. But please keep these folks in your

1099
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: prayers because again, two hundred and forty one miles per hour.

1100
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: Those are the strongest gust wins ever ever recorded. Family,

1101
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: So you know what that's gonna do. You've been there

1102
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: in fifteen seventy miles per two hundred and forty one.

1103
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: You can't stand up. Buildings don't stand up. So anyway,

1104
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: just keep that in your thoughts and prayers and as

1105
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: we go through the day, because they're gonna go through it.

1106
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Early this morning at twelve at the top of our

1107
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: brother Zaquie Browdy Grand Rising and welcome back to the program.

1108
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 23: Right into your brother called all sing as well as

1109
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 23: just want to salute my brother Kwamana of Vasilli for

1110
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 23: his consistent work in terms of addressing the issue of

1111
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 23: a systematic in my humble opinion, a systematic attack of

1112
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 23: brainwashing our people with the kind of crazy lyrics that's

1113
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 23: out there about many of the contemporary rappers and fingers.

1114
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 8: It takes me back to it'd be like promoting it.

1115
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 8: But it is the fifth that comes through the airways sometimes.

1116
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 8: But there's a video called hood right. I couldn't believe

1117
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 8: what I was seeing in terms of the projection of

1118
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 8: the negativityness and the still of typing of our people

1119
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 8: and the sisters. But any way, I just salute that

1120
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 8: brother in my prayer. When you guest made mention of

1121
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 8: the hurricane that's striking Jamaica and Cuba at the my

1122
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 8: prayers for the people, and that's I'll put some prayers

1123
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 8: out for the Jamaican people and the Cuban people where

1124
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 8: this hurricane is impacting.

1125
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, fourteen after top down. But you have

1126
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: a guest, do you want to share with us from Cuba?

1127
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 8: Yes? Yes. Our organization Universal African People's Organization, we have

1128
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 8: an international perspective pan African perspectives. Since we have been

1129
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 8: founded April fourth of nineteen eighty nine, as well as

1130
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 8: historically since we've been founded, we have three annual programs

1131
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 8: that we've celebrated including on April the fourth, the founding

1132
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 8: of our organization as well as the assassination date of

1133
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 8: Doctor King. We have an annual program then we annually

1134
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 8: celebrate the life and legacy of Brother Malcolm X, also

1135
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 8: known as the our Housman League. They Alshrabious as well

1136
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 8: as the honorable markets Massage Guardy Owner and each of

1137
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 8: their birthdays and in regards to Malcolm X, our organization

1138
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 8: was to have held a commemoration of Malcolm on May

1139
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 8: nineteenth of this year. However, we were structure in Saint

1140
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 8: Louis with a very devastating tornado and.

1141
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 10: We had to counselor.

1142
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 8: But then we just held two major programs here in

1143
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 8: October in his spirit of Malcolm X. And the theme

1144
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 8: for the gathering which was on October twenty second and

1145
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 8: twenty third, was in the spirit of Malcolm X al

1146
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 8: Hajjemlik al Shabaz that we were hosting a forum and

1147
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 8: the theme of the forum was Cuba a connection with

1148
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 8: Black America. And to that end, we had representatives from

1149
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 8: the Embassy of Tua who came to Saint Louis and

1150
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 8: we had a host of programs where they were in

1151
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 8: attendance and mad some great presentations, and we had a

1152
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 8: question and answers at each section. Our first one was

1153
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 8: a private reception with the representatives and our organizational members

1154
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 8: where we had about fifty of our members in attendance.

1155
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 8: The second was that following morning of October twenty fourth,

1156
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 8: where we had a meeting with elected officials and ministers

1157
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 8: and heads of different organizations, which was well attendant. And

1158
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 8: then later on that night we had the forum itself

1159
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 8: and had over one hundred people in attendance, excited and

1160
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 8: like I said, each.

1161
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Time, we uh yeah, who I thought right there, We've

1162
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: got to step aside for a few months. I'll let

1163
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: you finish your thought when he come back, and also

1164
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: introduce us to a sister from Cuba. Family. You two

1165
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: can get in on this conversation. Brother ZACKI Brewed and

1166
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: our Cuban sister reach out to us at eight hundred

1167
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll

1168
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: take a phone call next and Grand Rising family, thanks

1169
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: for rolling with us on this Tuesday morning. And twenty

1170
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: minutes after the top of that, I guessed his brother

1171
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Zaqui Berudi. Brother Zaki is the President General of the

1172
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Universal African People's Organization and he's got a guest with us.

1173
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: But before bring on your guest, brother Zaki, I let

1174
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: you finish your thought, okay.

1175
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 8: And as I was mentioning that our organization have an

1176
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 8: international perspective, and in the past, we have had and

1177
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 8: hosted ambassadors from the great country ZIMBABWEI Sudan as well

1178
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 8: as South Africa. And in this instance we had, as

1179
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 8: I mentioned, on the other side of the break, representatives

1180
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 8: from the great island of Cuba. And it was just

1181
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 8: so exciting in terms of the presentation of a boy

1182
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 8: a guest, and I guess it's none other than a

1183
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 8: young sister that was just so awesome in her presentation.

1184
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 8: And I'm speaking of Gabriela Rodriguez, who out of the

1185
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 8: Embassy is signing to work intact with the black community

1186
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 8: to the community of African descent here in the United States.

1187
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 8: So I would like to present to your audience sister

1188
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 8: Gabriella Rodriguez from the Embassy of Washington, d C.

1189
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: All right, your ground rising, Sister Gabriella, Welcome to the program.

1190
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 24: Hello, good morning, Thank you for having me today.

1191
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this so because I keep hearing

1192
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: these different numbers, but how many black folks? How many

1193
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: African folks are on the island of Cuba. You're hearing

1194
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: eighty percent, I can be here, thirty percent you look

1195
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: at Wikipedia gives you a lower number. And then when

1196
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: we look and hear about Cubans, we think about the

1197
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Miami Cubans and we, you know, some of us keep

1198
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: looking for people to look like us, and we don't

1199
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: see too many faces. So tell us how many what's

1200
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: the percentage?

1201
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 24: Okay, so thank you for that question. Actually it's you

1202
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 24: can see different different numbers about this because in Cuba

1203
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 24: the present is just like thirty plus percent of people,

1204
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 24: because of their color of the skin, identify themselves as

1205
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 24: African descent. But the thing is that in Cuba, the

1206
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 24: people don't only identify themselves because of the color of

1207
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 24: their skin, but also because of the cultural and religious practices.

1208
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 24: So that will hide the numbers on a sixty plus

1209
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 24: percent of African descent people in Cube.

1210
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Is there an era where most of our people live

1211
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: in Cuba on the Alexis now, we're talking about this

1212
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: hurricane kill, a hurricane it's slicing through Jamaica and it's

1213
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: on the way to Cuba. That's its next stop. And

1214
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: I think it's around Guantanamo Bay where the naval basis.

1215
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: It's going to impact that era. Where do our folks

1216
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: live the majority, Well.

1217
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 24: We are all around the country, but the biggest concentration

1218
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 24: is actually in the east part of the country, in

1219
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 24: the south part of the country.

1220
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Is that where the hurricane is heading.

1221
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 24: Clue is that with the hurricane is heating. Actually, yes,

1222
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 24: that is where the hurricane is going to pass through

1223
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 24: one Tamal, and I think it's going to hit some

1224
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 24: parts of Santiago Akula as well.

1225
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: Wow, family, we're got to pray for our our brothers

1226
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: and sisters in Cuba and in Jamaica with his killer storm.

1227
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier that the storm is the guster

1228
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: up to two hundred and forty one miles per hour.

1229
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: That's the largest ever recorded period, you know. So these

1230
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: are the wind gusts they're coming down. This is going

1231
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: to flatten Jamaica and that that part of Cuba too

1232
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: is going to be impacted. So wow, just family, just

1233
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: to prayer for our brothers and sisters in Cuba and

1234
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: in Jamaica. Let's talk about the blockade. Sister Gabrielle, give

1235
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: us some you know, give us some history at that

1236
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: block add how did that come about?

1237
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 24: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Actually, this is a very

1238
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 24: important moment regarding the issue of the blockade, because today

1239
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 24: and tomorrow we'll start the discussions the debates in the

1240
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 24: General Assembly of the United Nations to vote for the

1241
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 24: solution of ning the embargo against Cuba. So thank you,

1242
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 24: because I think it's important to begin by looking back,

1243
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 24: because you understand what we are having right now regarding

1244
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 24: the blockade and the sanctions against my country, it's important

1245
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 24: to know the origin of it. So the US economic, commercial,

1246
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 24: and financial blockade against Cuba did not begin yesterday. It

1247
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 24: began more than six decades ago, after the Cuban people

1248
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 24: decided in nineteen fifty nine, when the revolution took power

1249
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 24: in my country to take their destiny into their own hands,

1250
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 24: to build a sovereign nation free from external control. And

1251
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 24: it actually what triggered the sanctions was the process of

1252
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 24: nationalization in my country of properties that used to belong

1253
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 24: to American companies and the one hundred percent of I'm

1254
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 24: sorry one percent of people that used to hold in

1255
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 24: their hands all the wealthiest of Cuba. But The legal

1256
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 24: foundation of this policy is even older than that.

1257
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 16: It comes from a.

1258
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 24: Lot of nineteen seventeen called the Trading with the Enemy Act,

1259
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 24: And I want to emphasize in the name of this act,

1260
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 24: the Enemy Act. So it's a lot that was written

1261
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 24: for wartime. But Cuba is not and has never.

1262
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 14: Been at war with the United States.

1263
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 24: And yet for more than sixty years, every US president,

1264
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 24: no matter Democrat or Republican, has renewed this wartime measure

1265
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 24: against my country. Trump did it in August twenty twenty five.

1266
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 16: Actually, that's the foundation of a.

1267
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 24: Policy that seeks not dialogue but pressure, not coexistence, but

1268
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 24: submission for my country. And this policy is not frozening times.

1269
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 24: I mean, it's not the same blockade that you have

1270
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 24: in nineteen sixty. It has evolved, it has adapted, it

1271
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 24: has titaned. It renews itself with news, sanctions and restriction

1272
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 24: every year. Only in twenty twenty five, we have already

1273
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 24: more than twenty seven new measures against Cuba. We've seen

1274
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 24: fresh attempts to make daily life in Cuba harder, to

1275
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 24: isolate us, to punish us. We have a very strong

1276
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 24: campaign among the among and beside the economical sanctions and

1277
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 24: the economical measures against Cuba.

1278
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 16: We do have miscommunication campaigns.

1279
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 24: Let the campaigns against the Cuban doctors that work abroad

1280
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 24: the international Medical.

1281
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 16: Cooperation of Cuba, saying that Cuba is performing and the officials,

1282
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 16: the foreign officials.

1283
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 24: Related to these cooperation brigades they are performing practices of

1284
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 24: human trafficking, which is entirely false.

1285
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 16: These doctors go legally to those countries with agreement between Cuba.

1286
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 24: In in in the other countries that receive the medicals,

1287
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 24: the medics in their in their in their homelands. But

1288
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 24: perhaps I think the most cynical elements a lot of

1289
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 24: all these US measures against Cuba is the fact that

1290
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 24: Cuba still lists as a state sponsor of terrorism. This

1291
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 24: is a unilateral list that is put in by the state,

1292
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 24: is made by the State Department of the United States,

1293
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 24: and I think it's important to look at the facts.

1294
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 24: Since nineteen ninety five, the United States has recorded almost

1295
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 24: four thousand deaths from tourist acts and none of these

1296
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 24: acts are connected directly or indirectly to Cuba. And Cuba,

1297
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 24: on the other hand, has suffered over three four hundred

1298
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 24: deaths from tourist attacks since nineteen fifty nine and almost

1299
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 24: all of them are organized, financed, and executed from US soil.

1300
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 24: So I think you can come to your own conclusions

1301
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 24: when I say these kind of numbers. So basically, this

1302
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 24: is the history of the blockade. It started in nineteen

1303
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 24: sixty during after by Big invasion. What triggered was the

1304
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 24: process of nationalizations in Cuba.

1305
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 15: With was a process that was.

1306
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 24: Conducted legally according to the international law. And it is

1307
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 24: a policy that aims to put a collective punishment against

1308
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 24: the people of Cuba because of our interest in being

1309
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 24: a sovereign.

1310
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Let me check in twenty eight after the top. A

1311
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: lot of questions you ask you about the blockade, the

1312
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: blockade created by the United States. What about the rest

1313
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: of the world though, other than the Russians, Is anybody

1314
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: else to just ignored the blockade and trade with Cuba?

1315
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 14: Okay?

1316
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 24: So the international community overwhelmingly supports the ending of the

1317
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 24: blockade against Cuba. The thing is that the blockade has

1318
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 24: and that is why it's important to name it as

1319
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 24: a blockade and not as an embargo. It's something that

1320
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 24: affects not only the relations between Cuba and the United States,

1321
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 24: but also affects the relations that Cuba has with third countries,

1322
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 24: and of course the other countries like Russia, stated China,

1323
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 24: but also countries in Latin America are brothers and sisters

1324
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 24: in the Caribbean that has historically support Cuba. They have

1325
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 24: good relations, excellent relations with my country. The thing is

1326
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 24: that since the blockade has I mean extra territorial concept

1327
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 24: we as we call it extraterritorial consequences, sometimes the economical

1328
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 24: relations to trade relations that we have with those countries

1329
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 24: are affected by it. I put you an example. The

1330
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 24: main economical activity that Cuba has is tourism.

1331
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 16: But imagine that due to all right, I'm sorry, yeah,

1332
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 16: go ahead, yeah, So.

1333
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 24: Imagine that due to the b locade, a Canadian or

1334
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 24: European tourists cannot go to Cuba or are this stimulated

1335
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 24: to do tourism in Cuba, because if they go to

1336
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,440
Speaker 24: Cuba and visit my country, they will lose their capacity

1337
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 24: to travel to the United States without having to apply

1338
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 24: for a visa in a United States embassy does the

1339
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 24: eesta visa exemption that the United States gives to certain

1340
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 24: countries in the European Union and in Canada. So also

1341
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 24: Cuba cannot buy nothing that has more than ten per

1342
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 24: cent of American components. And imagine in this so globalized

1343
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 24: economy buying something that has less than ten percent of

1344
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 24: American components. It's very hard to find. And actually we

1345
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 24: have to buy things like food, like medicine in markets

1346
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 24: that are very far from our country, and that costs

1347
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 24: even more money that it.

1348
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 16: Should cost us.

1349
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 24: Also, imagine trying to buy a medicine, a medicine. You

1350
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 24: cannot buy a medicine like I don't know, and let's

1351
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 24: say Spain, because the pharmaceutical that says the medicine that

1352
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 24: this medicine has has an American patent, so the Cuban

1353
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 24: government cannot buy that. And since we are included in

1354
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 24: the list of state sponsors of terrorism, we are not

1355
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 24: allowed to receive, you know, international financing from international institutions.

1356
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 24: And only in the first year that we were included

1357
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 24: in that list, forty eight banking institutions around the world

1358
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 24: close their relations to Cuba. So there are many examples.

1359
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 16: But the thing is, and the thing is that.

1360
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 24: The blockade not only affects the relations between Cuba and

1361
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 24: the United States, but also affects their relations with the others,

1362
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 24: with other countries because the United States has economical relations

1363
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 24: with other countries, and they threaten these countries and these

1364
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 24: companies with sanctions.

1365
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and twenty nine away from the top of our family,

1366
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: just checking in us. I guess his sister Gabrielle Rodriquez

1367
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: from Cuba. She's explaining to us what's going on on

1368
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: the island right now, other than the fact that the

1369
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: hurricane is approaching. But they've been dealing with this blockade

1370
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: since the sixties, as she mentioned, since the Gabrielle. When

1371
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: Barack Obama was president, he did a sort of restructure.

1372
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: Is some of the restrictions against Cuba. Is this true

1373
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: or this internet talk?

1374
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 24: No one, it's true. And actually I think it was

1375
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 24: a very important step back in the time.

1376
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 16: It opened.

1377
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 24: First of all, I think it was important because it

1378
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 24: opened dialogue between Cuba and the United States, which remained

1379
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 24: close for for.

1380
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 14: A lot of years.

1381
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 24: And it opened dialogue in issues like migration, immigration, law enforcement,

1382
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 24: human rights. So and also it gave the possibility to

1383
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 24: American citizens to visit Cuba, which was very important for

1384
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 24: the tourism industry. As I said, tourism is one of

1385
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 24: the most important economic activities that we have.

1386
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 16: In the country.

1387
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 24: But it also opened many spaces of collaboration in health,

1388
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 24: in environmental protection, in culture, in education. So it was

1389
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 24: very important we signed together, We put in place like

1390
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 24: twelve memorandums of understanding, but unfortunately all of that was

1391
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 24: erased by the first shop administration.

1392
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 15: But yes, it was a very significant.

1393
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 16: Resonment for.

1394
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: Could couldn't Barack Obama just ended the blockade? Couldn't he

1395
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: have stopped all the sanctions and just opened it up?

1396
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: Or was that beyond the scope? Because you know, I

1397
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: saw that he made some steps towards that, but unfortunately

1398
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: didn't do it nilatterally, even if though the Trump with

1399
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: the administration coming and turned it around after what he did.

1400
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: But couldn't he have done that?

1401
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: Though?

1402
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 24: Okay, so there are a lot of significant executive presidential

1403
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 24: actions that the President of the United States can do

1404
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 24: in order to ease the sanctions and ease the economical

1405
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 24: measures against Cuba.

1406
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 14: The thing with the blockade, as it is such a brother.

1407
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 24: Scheme of sanctions that it includes actions in the Congress

1408
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 24: of the United States, laws in the Congress approved by

1409
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 24: the Congress of the United States, like the Helms Burton Act,

1410
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 24: like the Tory Shelley.

1411
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 15: Acts, that are in the conmerce of the Unitedans and.

1412
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 16: Are the core bone of what the blockade is.

1413
01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 15: So it is.

1414
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 24: I mean, it's not impossible to ease the Sanchos, but

1415
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 24: ending completely the blockade would require action from the Congress

1416
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 24: of the United States.

1417
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: Got you twenty six away from them at the time.

1418
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: They are family just checking in US. I guess his

1419
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: sister Gabriella Rodriquez from Cuba, from the Cuban EMBSCY in Washington,

1420
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: d C. Give us a rundown what's going on on

1421
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: the island of Cuba. And right now the Cubans are

1422
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: concerned about this hurricane Hurricane Melissa that they say gustin

1423
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: wins of two hundred and forty one miles per hour

1424
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: that's never been recorded in history as stepping on Jamaica.

1425
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: Meteorolisy of warning that the Jamaica will be unrecognizable after

1426
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: Hurricane Melissa passes over and heads to Cuba. So that's

1427
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: one of the issues we consider it. Speaking about that,

1428
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 1: let's talk about the medical bigrades bigrades, Sister Gabriella, because

1429
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: I understand that they've found out all across the globe

1430
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: and the Trump administration has told countries if they accepted

1431
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: the medical help from Cuba, they're going to be punished

1432
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: by the United States. Is there any truth to that?

1433
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 16: Okay?

1434
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 14: Yes, Uh.

1435
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 6: The campaign against the medical brigades is something that has

1436
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 6: been happening way before this, uh, the second Trump administration.

1437
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 24: But right now tecnd a new uh you know, uh,

1438
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 24: renewed force because of certain politicians that we have right

1439
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 24: now here in the United States have that has been

1440
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 24: historically anti Cuba and now held important positions regarding foreign policy.

1441
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 24: So yes, the story of the of the medical brigades

1442
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 24: is something that started more than thirty years ago, uh

1443
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 24: in Africa and expanded to Latin America, the Caribbean, Asia.

1444
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 19: Uh.

1445
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 24: So the Cuban doctors are almost are have a presence

1446
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 24: in all the continents uh in the in in the

1447
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 24: world right now.

1448
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 16: So yes, the.

1449
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 24: Medical when a country receives the medical brigade, they have

1450
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 24: a legal agreement with the country of Cuba.

1451
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 11: Uh.

1452
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 16: Some of these medical missions, we receive.

1453
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 20: Revenue for the work.

1454
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 16: I mean the doctors receive payments.

1455
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 19: Uh.

1456
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 24: They receive I mean they have a place to stay

1457
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 24: in the country, proper conditions to work. The thing with

1458
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 24: the Cube doctors is that they don't work in comfortable places.

1459
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 24: They go to places of difficult access in those countries.

1460
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 24: They share their lives with the communities there, and they

1461
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 24: are highly appreciated because otherwise sometimes those communities those countries

1462
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 24: first don't have enough, you know, medical personnel in order

1463
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 24: to address all the necessities in their countries. So the

1464
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 24: doctors from Cuba help with that and they are highly

1465
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 24: appreciated because they are really professional.

1466
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 16: They are well.

1467
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: Sister Gabriel. We got to step aside and the ladies'

1468
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: news in different cities and I come back and let

1469
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: you finish your thought on billing. Baltimore would like to

1470
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: speak to you family. You two can join this discussion.

1471
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

1472
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight to seventy six and we'll take it.

1473
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: Phone calls for Gabriela Rodriquez from Cuba from the Qban

1474
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: Embassy after the news that's next and Grand Rising family

1475
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: thanks us rolling with us on this Tuesday money our

1476
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: guests did. Gabriela Rodriquez is from the Cuban embassy. His

1477
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: sisters give us an update on what's going on in Cuba,

1478
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: especially give us the history of the blockade, and moment,

1479
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: charlch you're going to tell us about the impact of

1480
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 1: that blockade, But just remind folks that there's a hurricane

1481
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: out there, and Hurricane Melissa. It's stepping on Jamaica's doorstep

1482
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: right now and they're saying that Jamaica won't be recognized.

1483
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: Well after he pass this by, it's gonna slice thuugh

1484
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: Jamaica and head on the way to Cuba, disgusting of

1485
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: winds up to two hundred and forty one miles protest.

1486
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: That's highs to ever record on record, two hundred and

1487
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: forty one Can you imagine that? And it's going straight

1488
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: through Jamaica, going to Cuba, the southern part of Cuba

1489
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: where the Sister Gabrielis's most of our brothers and sisters reside.

1490
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: So keep them in their prayers as we go through

1491
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: this morning, because all this is going to happen with

1492
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: the next two days. Then after that is going to

1493
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: go through the Bahamas, the southern island of the Bahamas

1494
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: chain of islands, and then it's going down in the

1495
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: Atlantic coach and heading towards Bermuda. So keep our brothers

1496
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: and sisters on those islands in your prayers and thoughts

1497
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: as will go through the next few days. Fifteen minutes

1498
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: away from the top. They are following that. Coming up

1499
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: later this morning, we would speak with doctor Julian Malvaux.

1500
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: She's an economist that's going to talk about that the

1501
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: government shutdowns disproportionately impacting the black community. Before we hear

1502
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: from doctor Malvaux, the president of the National African American

1503
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: Gun Association, Phil Smith, will be here, so as folks

1504
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: are signing up, get packing up. It's signing up with

1505
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: his organization. And later this week you're going to hear

1506
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: from future futuristic researcher by the City Bacaria and New

1507
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 1: York media analysts were Wayne Kimlin and Reggie Thomas all

1508
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: going to be here this week. So if you're in Baltimore,

1509
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,959
Speaker 1: keep you radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB

1510
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: or if you're in the DMV or on fourteen fifty

1511
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: WL I, Sister Gabrielle, I'll let you finish your thought

1512
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: on Bill and Baltimore as a question or comment for.

1513
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 24: You, Sorry, can you say it again?

1514
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: Did you finish your thoughts were before we left for

1515
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: the news.

1516
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 24: Oh, yes, yeah, we were talking about the medical Brigades. Yeah,

1517
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 24: the Cuban medical Brigades.

1518
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 1: Yes, okay. I'm Bill in Baltimore. Wants you speak of

1519
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: this online Wine Grand Rising, Billy Gabriella.

1520
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 20: Yes, sir, top of the morning, first call. I'm I'm

1521
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 20: praying for everybody that's in the path of the hurricane,

1522
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 20: and I just want to thank the Cuban people for

1523
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 20: protecting our sister Sasha cor And I want the sister

1524
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 20: to know that I did listen to her presentation while

1525
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 20: she was in Saint Louis through Facebook lives. I want

1526
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 20: to thank her for presentation. But I got I got

1527
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 20: my question called is this I guess I want to

1528
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 20: know in terms of how closely are the Cuban people

1529
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 20: paying attention to the American political what's happening here politically

1530
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 20: at this particular time, and how do they connect the

1531
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 20: impact with them and us at this particular time.

1532
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Bill, just A Gabrielle.

1533
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 24: Okay, Yes, the people in Cuba are listening closely because

1534
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 24: we are in the same region, brother, and everything that

1535
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 24: happens in this country has implications for the Caribbean, for

1536
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 24: Latin America. And I think that what I mean, what

1537
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 24: happens together in this situation is first of all, that

1538
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 24: for many years they've tried to make us believe that

1539
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 24: what happens in Cuba, or what happens here in the States,

1540
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 24: or what happened with in Haiti, or what happens in

1541
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 24: Africa is completely disconnected. And it's not because we strongly

1542
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 24: believe as a country that is Pan African, aans that

1543
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 24: recognize themselves as part of the diaspora, that the struggles

1544
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 24: of the people of the global South are connected. That

1545
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 24: we need to get together, that these sanctions that affect

1546
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 24: Cuba are not I mean a part of what is

1547
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 24: going on in Haiti, what is going on in Congo,

1548
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 24: what is going on even I mean what is going

1549
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 24: on in Latin America, what is going on in the Caribbean.

1550
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 24: I think that the goal here is to get together,

1551
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 24: is to have more conversations like this one and as

1552
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 24: stay connected because we recognize ourselves in your struggles, and

1553
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 24: I do believe that you recognize ourselves yourself in ours

1554
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 24: in ours.

1555
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 25: All right, brother, kall connect quick question brother call yeah.

1556
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 25: My question is twofold one is as UN nations getting

1557
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 25: ready to vote on whether or not to end in Bargo,

1558
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 25: what has been the past voting records basically in the

1559
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 25: United Nations. And can you give a brief historical projection

1560
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 25: as relates to Cuba involvement and making some change in

1561
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 25: Southern Africa?

1562
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 8: Those or my two questions.

1563
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 24: Yeah, okay, So the historical I mean the history of

1564
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 24: the votation is this votation in the United Natates and

1565
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 24: is started in nineteen ninety one, and the world has

1566
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 24: overwhelmingly support the resolution to end up Located imposed by

1567
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 24: the United States against QA. In twenty twenty four was

1568
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 24: the last votation. One hundred and eighty seven countries voted

1569
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 24: in favor and only two voted against it.

1570
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 14: United States and Israel I think.

1571
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 24: That in this matter, the world has never been confused.

1572
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 24: They know that this Located violates international law, they know

1573
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 24: it violates the principle.

1574
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,480
Speaker 21: Of sovereignty and non intervention, and they know it undermines

1575
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 21: the very spirit of the United States Sharter.

1576
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 14: So this vote is very.

1577
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 24: Important, not because it changes US law immediately, but because

1578
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 24: I think it referms something that is essential for us.

1579
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 24: That justice is not defined by power, but it's defined

1580
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 24: I mean justice. And tomorrow, when the debate ends, the

1581
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 24: debate ends with the votation of the United Nations the

1582
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 24: World War. Once again, I think I trust again have

1583
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 24: a chance to say clearly allowded that they don't support

1584
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 24: the blockade against Cuba. And you were talking about South Africa,

1585
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 24: Southern Africa, and yes, Cuba participated and the liberation struggles

1586
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 24: of our brothers.

1587
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 21: And sisters in Africa since the seventies and since the seventies,

1588
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 21: from the seventies until the nineties.

1589
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 24: They we sent people to Angola, we send people to Namidia,

1590
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 24: we send people to Mozambique out of a request made

1591
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 24: by the government of Angola.

1592
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 14: This is very important.

1593
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 24: We didn't go to Africa to invade. We were there

1594
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 24: to help our brothers and sisters to fire for this

1595
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 24: self determination, to end apartheid your Jim in Africa. And

1596
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 24: once the I mean once the war was over, we

1597
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 24: came back, our troops came back to our coment and

1598
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 24: the only thing we didn't get a single cent because

1599
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 24: we didn't want it.

1600
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 14: That was not the reason.

1601
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 24: Well we're there, not a diamond, notting. The only thing

1602
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 24: that we took back from Africa was the bones of

1603
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 24: our dead people who were there to support our brothers

1604
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 24: and sisters.

1605
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 1: Oh wow, thank you for that question, those questions, brothers

1606
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Zaki nine away from the top, they are, that's just

1607
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: the Gabrielle, the impact of the embargo on our brothers

1608
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: and sisters on the island of Cuba. Can you explain

1609
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: the impact because you know, right now, as I mentioned,

1610
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: there's a storm, a hurt, not a storm, a hurricane

1611
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: kill a hurricane. It's on the on the way. This

1612
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: is going to make matters worse. And the hurricane Melisia

1613
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: is just going to about to camp over Jamaica and

1614
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: then go to Cuba. And it's moving so slow, like

1615
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: two miles an hour, And I mentioned the gust of

1616
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one miles prout. That's gust.

1617
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1618
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: So what's what's what's the impact of the embargo and

1619
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: what do you think that's going to happen after the

1620
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: storm passes by?

1621
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 24: Okay, so this storm is really bad news for us,

1622
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 24: I mean for everyone in the Caribbean. And uh it's

1623
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 24: the bad news because it's very very strong.

1624
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 6: Uh.

1625
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 24: The thing is that I mean you have to I

1626
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 24: think it's important to say that this is going to

1627
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 24: focus on material damages, mainly because thankfully the Civil Guard

1628
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 24: in Cuba which we call the body that preserved the

1629
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 24: civil security in my country. They already evacuated all the

1630
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 24: vulnerable population in the in the south part of the

1631
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 24: country in order to protect their lives. But the thing

1632
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 24: that is that this is going to have a huge

1633
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 24: impact in the in the I mean material impact in

1634
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 24: my country, and mainly because this is a moment where

1635
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 24: we are harvesting uh things like coca uh and.

1636
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 14: Other and other and other products that come from.

1637
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 24: Agriculture in Cuba that are mainly located in the in

1638
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 24: the east part of the country. So yes, the blockade

1639
01:27:56,360 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 24: affects uh almost everything, every aspect of the daily life.

1640
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 16: Of the Cuban people.

1641
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 24: So just imagine a mother who can find her child's

1642
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 24: medication because the US company holds the patents and other

1643
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 24: spirit sanctions to for selling it to us. Imagine a

1644
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 24: doctor who's hospital in Cuba can't buy spare parts for

1645
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 24: an X ray machine because the manufacturer's bank refuses to

1646
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 24: persist the payment, or because these spare parts have more

1647
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 24: than ten percent of American components. Some people in Washington

1648
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 24: like to say, if there is a blockade, how do

1649
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 24: you get tourists. I was explaining that this is a distortion.

1650
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 24: The existence of tourism doesn't prove the blockade doesn't exist.

1651
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 24: It proves our resilience because I mean, and our creativity

1652
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 24: and our will to survive. Or why do we buy

1653
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 24: oil if we have the blockade, because we receive oil

1654
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 24: shipments from Mexico. But yet even those small openings that

1655
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:50,919
Speaker 24: we have are attacked.

1656
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 14: I said that.

1657
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 24: European and Canadian sitis are penalized when they visit Cuba

1658
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 24: by revoking their visa frehenty to the United States. If

1659
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 24: there are other means, they say, the US allows foods

1660
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 24: to sell for sales to Cuba, so the blocks not

1661
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 24: must not be that harsh. In reality, those sales come

1662
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 24: with chains. We must pay cash in advance. And I'm

1663
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 24: going to tell you some numbers, some that are hard

1664
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 24: to ignore. Imagine that just twenty two.

1665
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 14: Days of lots as caused by the blockade will.

1666
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 24: Fund Cuba's entire annual program for basic medicine.

1667
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 14: Just two hours without the blockade will.

1668
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 24: Provide all medicine for psychiatric neurological care. And just ten

1669
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 24: minutes will be enough to give hearing aids to every

1670
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 24: child with disability in our schools. And those are just

1671
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 24: examples of what the blockade does. But the blockade is

1672
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 24: equal to blackouts in Cuba, blackout that lasts more than

1673
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 24: twenty four hours, because the shipments of that bring oil

1674
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 24: to our country are being sanctioned, not the companies the vessels.

1675
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 24: A vessel that comes to Cuban harbor cannot visit an

1676
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 24: American harbor more than six months. So that caused the

1677
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 24: companies that sent all to Cuba a lot of money.

1678
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 24: So this means that some companies don't want to sell

1679
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 24: all of Cuba in order to generate electricity because they

1680
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 24: say this is not a good business. Or I don't know,

1681
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 24: companies that sell food they feel threatened because they can

1682
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 24: be under sanctions if they are economical relations with the

1683
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 24: companies here in the United States or even investments from

1684
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 24: the government of the United States. So I will say

1685
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 24: that every aspect of a Cuba, of the Cubans daily

1686
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 24: life is inpacted by the blockheads somehow.

1687
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold that though, right then we got to step

1688
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: aside and check the trafficing weather in our different cities

1689
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: when we come back. I got two tweet questions. One

1690
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: is about Mark or Rubio and the Miami Cubans because

1691
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: they're they're they're supporting this blockade. Why are they doing that?

1692
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: And they've got relatives down there, And one of the

1693
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: tweets says that the Cuban people feel betrayed by Rubio

1694
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: because he's leading the charge against Venezuela and he's also

1695
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: coming for Cuban. Next, I'll let you respond to those

1696
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: tweet and I got another tweet questions for you as well. Family,

1697
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: just join us. I guess his sister Gabriela Rodriquez from Cuba,

1698
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: from the Cuban Embassy in Washington, d C. Explaining to

1699
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: us what's going on in Cuba right now. You want

1700
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: to join this discussion, reach out to us at eight

1701
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and

1702
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: we'll ticket phone calls at the traffic and weather update

1703
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: that's next and grind rising, family, and thanks for staying

1704
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday morning. I guess his sister

1705
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: Gabriela Rodriquez from the Cuban ambssi's giving an update on

1706
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: what's going on in Cuba. Of course, Cuba is on

1707
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: the eye of this this hurricane, slow moving hurricane that's

1708
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: about to end at Jamaica. So we're going to hear

1709
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: more about that. And it's moving like two miles per hour,

1710
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: so it's basically camping on top of Jamaica and then Cuba,

1711
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 1: in the southern part of Cuba. And the sister Gabriel

1712
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: tell us that most of our brothers and sisters reside

1713
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: the question for the tweet question I have for you,

1714
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: a Sister Gabriel, the tweeter says, do the Cuban people

1715
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 1: feel betrayed by Rubio? He's leading the charge against Venezuela

1716
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: and next he's coming for Cuba. And I'll I'll just

1717
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: add on to that, how do they how do they?

1718
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,759
Speaker 1: You know, how they say they're against they're for the blockade.

1719
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: They've got relatives down there, and they live in free

1720
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: and easy here in America. But yet still they't they

1721
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: don't want their own brothers and sisters on the island

1722
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: to have that sort of freedom. Can you answer the

1723
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: both those questions for us?

1724
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 15: Yes.

1725
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 24: First of all, I would like to I always like

1726
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 24: to say when I have to address this particular issue

1727
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 24: about Cubans here in the United States, is that the

1728
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 24: first of all, Marco Ruian has never.

1729
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 16: Been in Cuba.

1730
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 14: He has never been in Cuba.

1731
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 24: He calls himself from Cuban origin, which is true, he's

1732
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 24: from Givan origin, but he was never been in Cuba,

1733
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 24: and his family left Cuba before nineteen fifty nine, so

1734
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 24: his family been here in the United States, has nothing

1735
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 24: to do with the Cuban Revolution.

1736
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 14: So if I meant I.

1737
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 24: Think that we don't feel betrayed, the people in Cuba

1738
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 24: don't feel betrayed by Micao Ruby more than they will

1739
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 24: feel betrayed by any other American politician that supports the

1740
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 24: blockade against Cuba. Because I mean, I'm a Cuban. I

1741
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 24: don't believe I mean, he's not Cuban. He's not Cuban,

1742
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 24: he has never been in my country, and I don't

1743
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 24: believe that he understands the damage of what the blockade

1744
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:17,560
Speaker 24: does for the Cuban people. The people like him and

1745
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 24: other headline anti Cuban politicians that support the US located

1746
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 24: against Cuba, they do it for ideological, political and I

1747
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 24: think electoral reasons as well. Ideologically, they continue to reject

1748
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 24: the Cuban Revolution and what it represents because it's a

1749
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 24: model of independence, there's a model of social justice, and

1750
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 24: there's a model of resistance to US domination in the

1751
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 24: Western hemisphere. For them, I think maintaining the blockade is

1752
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 24: the way to punish Cuba for choosing a different political

1753
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 24: and economic path, And politically, the blockade serves as a

1754
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 24: domestic tool for the United States in US politics, particularly

1755
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 24: in Florida, taking a hard stance against Cuba has long

1756
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 24: been a way to mobile lies and secure votes among

1757
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 24: segments of the Cuban Americans community that left the island

1758
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 24: mainly after nineteen fifty nine or grew up with anti

1759
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 24: government narratives and economically, some also defend the blockade to

1760
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 24: protect special interests that benefits from isolating Cuba or from

1761
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 24: the idea of a future like regime change that could

1762
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 24: open the island to privatization and external control. Remember what

1763
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 24: I said about the nationalization process in Cuba. Many of

1764
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 24: these people think that if the revolution is overthrown, they

1765
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 24: will obtain their properties again and benefit from that again. So,

1766
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 24: in essence, their support for the blockade has little to do,

1767
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 24: I think, with democracy or human rights, because the blockade

1768
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 24: is a systematic violation of human rights for the human

1769
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 24: people and everything, and has everything to do with the

1770
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 24: political opportunism and hostility towards the sovereign nation that refuses

1771
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 24: to submit to Washington's agenda. And also a thing that

1772
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 24: I like to point is that this point of view

1773
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 24: doesn't represent the one opinion of the Cubans living in

1774
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 24: the here in.

1775
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 16: The United States.

1776
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 24: Many of them want good relations I mean with their homeland.

1777
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 24: They are interested in I mean they come here to

1778
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 24: the United States, mostly the Judir generations, come to the

1779
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 24: United States like any other immigrants, trying to find better

1780
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 24: economical conditions, trying to help their families back in Cuba,

1781
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 24: and they find the rights violated here in the United

1782
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 24: States because even they cannot send remediances to their to

1783
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,560
Speaker 24: their families in Cuba because the blockade. One of the

1784
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 24: things that compound the blockade the sanctions against the entities

1785
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,799
Speaker 24: that send remediances to Cuba and the entities that received

1786
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 24: those remediances to Cuba. So the Cuban that the Cubans

1787
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,959
Speaker 24: that live here in the United States cannot send remediances

1788
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 24: to their families. And many of them have stated in

1789
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 24: solidarity groups, they belong to solidarity groups. They try to Cuba,

1790
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 24: they come to Cuba, and after they obtained their papers,

1791
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 24: they return to their countries in order to support their

1792
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 24: families to visit their homeland. So at first, I don't

1793
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 24: think that the opinion that the blockade should exist is

1794
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 24: an opinion that represents the entire Cuban community here in

1795
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 24: the United States.

1796
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 26: And second, Michael Ruyo is not a representation of what

1797
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 26: a Cuban h or Cuban original politicians should be because

1798
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 26: he has never stepped a foot in my country.

1799
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: All right, six after the top there, Ross Jilmas has

1800
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: a question. He's in Buffalo, New York, is online one

1801
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Ross jillmo your question for sister Gabriella Grand Rising.

1802
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 27: Basically almost happening in America right now. I know that

1803
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 27: you are have been sending doctors to Africa and all

1804
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 27: over the world. The health crisis in America. We need

1805
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 27: doctors probably in the inner cities in America pretty soon,

1806
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 27: especially what's happening politically. But I wanted to touch ask

1807
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 27: a question about our culture. Maybe you could you could

1808
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 27: answer put it in a perspective. During the sixties, many

1809
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 27: of the African leaders like Achmet Seku today sent musicians

1810
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 27: to Cuba to learn modern music, which created a whole

1811
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 27: revolution in Africa about creating African music, but using Cuban

1812
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 27: inspired drums horns, and that is what created many of

1813
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 27: the modern West African musicians and a whole relook at

1814
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 27: African culture. Can you talk about the importance of Cuba's

1815
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 27: African retention and how important that can be for those

1816
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 27: of us who see unity through culture, even before captivity,

1817
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 27: even before enslave, and even before America's America, we have

1818
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 27: common blood and common culture. Can you talk about the

1819
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 27: importance of why we should use that solidarity now, Yes,

1820
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:54,839
Speaker 27: thank you, that's.

1821
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 24: Very That's a very important question because we have always

1822
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 24: stated that some one of the mainly things or one

1823
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,560
Speaker 24: of the most important things that united is precisely those

1824
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 24: cultural ties with Africa, with people from African descent here

1825
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 24: in the United States. Uh, that's that's very strong.

1826
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 21: Actually, we have a lot of events in Cuba, international

1827
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 21: events that gather musicians from the United States, Black musicians

1828
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 21: from the United States, musicians from Africa, like the Jazz

1829
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 21: the International Jazz Festival that happens every year in Havana.

1830
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 24: And also one of the biggest connections that we have

1831
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 24: with the United States was the collaboration between and I'm

1832
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 24: sorry about the pronunciation of his name Dizzy GPS, Guillipsy

1833
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 24: and Channel Poso. The music by Guillipsy was inspired by

1834
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 24: the by the afric Cuban rhythms that Channel Poso was,

1835
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 24: I mean that the music of Channel Poso performed. And

1836
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 24: you were talking specifically about some certain people going to

1837
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 24: Cuba in order from Africa going to Cuba to learn

1838
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 24: or to share the knowledge with the Cuban musicians. And

1839
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:17,879
Speaker 24: African rhythms are one present in almost every musical production.

1840
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 14: Our production that.

1841
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 24: We have in Cuba is very I mean it's beautiful

1842
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 24: and uh and and it's almost everywhere. I mean, the

1843
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 24: Cuban salta has African rhythms, the Cuban timba has African rhythms.

1844
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 24: We do have. It even links with my personal story.

1845
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 24: My great grandmother she used to be a singer in

1846
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 24: these groups, an African group that lived in Cuba for many,

1847
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 24: many years. So so the influence is immense and it

1848
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 24: is of course a way to connect and it's something

1849
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 24: that the site we have something like the Blocade present.

1850
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 24: This is a connection and a bridge that that is

1851
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 24: very very very used by people here in the United

1852
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 24: States to go to Cuba to learn more about Cuba

1853
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 24: to connect even using you know, internet and virtual and virtual.

1854
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 14: Tools in order to in order to create using in

1855
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 14: order to create art.

1856
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 24: Because I think that, I mean cultural diplomacy is one

1857
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 24: of the aspects that we use more here in the

1858
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 24: United States.

1859
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 14: Because I mean it it is kind of a way

1860
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 14: to overpass the.

1861
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 24: Economical and political regulations or bad relations that we have

1862
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 24: coming from the government.

1863
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just say there's a ten half the

1864
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: top of the out of those who weren't wondering why

1865
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 1: we pay so much attention to Cuba, because our ancestors

1866
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: all made the same trip, which just came on different ships.

1867
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: Some of our ancestors ended up in Cuba, Panama, Jamaica, Brazil.

1868
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 1: But there's still our answers. Some of them were probably

1869
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: even our blood brothers and sisters, and we just don't know.

1870
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: So if you understand how the system of Pan African works,

1871
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: that's why we're discussing this in Cuba needs a help

1872
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: right now. And let me just say, Phil Smith, Press

1873
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: in the National Africaneran Ghana says and Field gives another

1874
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 1: couple of minutes here with it's just a Gabrielle because

1875
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: another tweet question for the Tweeter says, as a guest,

1876
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: if the lack of blacks in high visible positions in Cuba, Venezuela,

1877
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, et cetera is a reflection of the same

1878
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,879
Speaker 1: racial caste system that is in this country.

1879
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 15: Okay, So.

1880
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 24: I will kind of disagree with the statement that we

1881
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 24: have lack of black people in our government. I think

1882
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 24: it's a matter of you know, it's a narrative that

1883
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 24: is imposed by some people that is not one hundred

1884
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 24: percent true. I mean, the National Assembly in Cuba that

1885
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 24: could be like the Congress here in the United States,

1886
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 24: has more than fifty percent of people that identify themselves

1887
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 24: as black people after descendants. Also, maybe it's through that

1888
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,839
Speaker 24: perhaps you see our presidence is wide near the as Canel.

1889
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 24: But remember that I said that in Cuba you don't

1890
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 24: only identify yourself because of the color of your skin,

1891
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,719
Speaker 24: but also for your religious and cultural practices as something

1892
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 24: from African descent. Actually, we consider ourselves a country of

1893
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 24: African descent, the country that is part of the diaspora,

1894
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 24: and we are very proud of that. And Cuba. The

1895
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 24: first one of the vice ministers and no sorry, three

1896
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 24: of the vice ministers in Cuba are people with black skin.

1897
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 2: So no, we are not.

1898
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 24: We don't have a low representation in government or in

1899
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 24: the power structures in my country.

1900
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 14: I don't think that.

1901
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 16: I mean, we have more than.

1902
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 24: Fifty percent of representation. Also, you have to understand that

1903
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 24: because of the color of the skin, we are only

1904
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 24: thirty percent of those people in Cuba have black skin.

1905
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 24: And perhaps it to be like I don't know in

1906
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 24: proportion of what you see in the structures of power,

1907
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,759
Speaker 24: but we are not under representative actually, and regardless of religion,

1908
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 24: a lot of people, I mean more than seventy one

1909
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 24: of ten people in Cuba practices Afro Cuban religions.

1910
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 14: So no, I don't think there is.

1911
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 24: A lack of representation of black people in power in Cuba.

1912
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 24: And actually there is a lot of programs, a lot

1913
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 24: of organizations in the civil society, only Afro feminists, only

1914
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 24: in acro feminist issues. In Cuba, there are more than

1915
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,879
Speaker 24: seventy organizations. And we are talking about a small country.

1916
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 24: I know that seventy perhaps seems like a small number

1917
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 24: here in the States, but in Cuba, seventy is a

1918
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 24: high representation. We have a program in Cuba the name

1919
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 24: of the program is program called Kuano which addresses the

1920
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 24: manifestations of racism I in Cuba. I try to eradicate

1921
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 24: those with It is a program that is in combination

1922
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 24: of efforts between the government and the civil society in

1923
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 24: Cuba with a high level of representations in the structures

1924
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 24: of power. Imagine that every department in Cuba, like you

1925
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 24: will say the Department of Health or the Department of

1926
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 24: Education or the Ministry of Defense.

1927
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 14: In Cuba has to how to how to say.

1928
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 24: They have to present a report every month to the

1929
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 24: program called in order to explain how they are addressing

1930
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 24: the issues related to raise in my country, in order

1931
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 24: to eradicate any type of discrimination, but mainly the discrimination

1932
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 24: related to the color of your skin.

1933
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 14: So I think there is a lot of power and the.

1934
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 24: In the and the and issues related particularly to afford

1935
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 24: the standing community in Cuba are taking in high accounts

1936
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 24: in the power structures.

1937
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 16: In my country.

1938
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: You know what, Sister Gabrielle, I just want to thank

1939
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: you for sharing all this information with us about Cuba

1940
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: and again with our press for coming up with the

1941
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: hurricane Melita that's heading to Cuba. After he's finishes his

1942
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: business in Jamaica and our people are going to need

1943
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: some help. So you know, once you stay in touch

1944
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: with us, how can we help our brothers insist us

1945
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:17,839
Speaker 1: on both these islands. After the hurricane marches through Jamaica

1946
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: first this morning and later tomorrow is going to go

1947
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: through Cuba, the southern part of Cuba where many of

1948
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: our folks, our people live. As I keep mentioning that

1949
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 1: we all made our ancestors at least made the trip,

1950
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: it's the same trip, but we came on different ships.

1951
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: There's no difference why you were here and I and

1952
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 1: you're there. We're all the same people, whether it be

1953
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 1: in Brazil, Panama, Jamaica, trained at whatever, badeas and Cuba.

1954
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 1: We're all the same people who all came cut from

1955
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: the same tree. So that's why we've got to support

1956
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters. Again, I just want to thank

1957
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: you for sharing those giving us all this information because

1958
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know what's going on in Cuba,

1959
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 1: and thank you for sharing that information with us. And

1960
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: thank you brother Zaki for setting this up for.

1961
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 24: Us all right, and thank you so much for the opportunity.

1962
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 1: Oh please and stay in touch with us because after

1963
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: the hurricane is through with Jamaica and then ravages the Cuba. Next.

1964
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: You guys going to need some help, so let us

1965
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 1: know how we can help you, so stay in touch

1966
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: with us.

1967
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 24: Sister Gabrielle, thank you, thank you so much, thank you

1968
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 24: so much, highly appreciated.

1969
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 16: Thanks.

1970
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: All right, family, we got to step aside a few months.

1971
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 1: We'll come back. Phil Smith has been generous with his time.

1972
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: He's the president of the National African American Gun Association.

1973
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: With tell us why folks are signing up the membership

1974
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: in he's group, the Nationally African American Gun Association. What

1975
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? You can check in with us as

1976
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: well at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight

1977
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. Next and

1978
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us on this

1979
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Here at twenty minutes after the top. There

1980
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: our next guest. He is the president of the National

1981
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: African American Gun Association. Name is Phil Smith. Phil, thank

1982
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 1: you for being so patient with us, and welcome back

1983
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: to the program Sphil there online too, Hello, yeah, oh

1984
01:46:59,439 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: there you go.

1985
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 22: Sorry about say yeah, great to be here and the

1986
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 22: waiting was worth it because I got got a lot

1987
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 22: of information about Cuba, so so thank you, Phil.

1988
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, we always have some new lesters since you've

1989
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: been on tell us. How did you create the National

1990
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: African American Gun Association.

1991
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 7: Why, Yeah, we started back in twenty fifteen. We were

1992
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 7: fully incorporated as a five oh one C three, five

1993
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 7: and four in twenty seventeen. We have roughly fifty thousand

1994
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 7: members in our database. We have chapters all over the country,

1995
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 7: roughly around eighty chapters to one hundred, depending on where

1996
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 7: we're at of rolling out those chapters. We have a

1997
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 7: forty percent membership of black women from all stripes, doctors, nurses,

1998
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 7: single moms. You know, Dame, that we have that type

1999
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 7: of woman in our organization. We have members in every

2000
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 7: state in the country, regardless of where we're at California

2001
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 7: to Connecticut, Florida to Washington, we have a member in

2002
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 7: that state. We are a pro black, pro constitutional carry,

2003
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 7: and a pro.

2004
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 22: Gun organization with no apologies, and our goal and job

2005
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 22: is to teach black people in this country in a

2006
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 22: very lawful, law abiding way, how to shoot a gun,

2007
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 22: how to protect their families. If somebody breaks into your

2008
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 22: house at two am, you have the skill set in

2009
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 22: the basic foundation to protect yourself, and we definitely are

2010
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 22: able to do that. We have some of the best

2011
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 22: instructors in the country, male and female, that can go

2012
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 22: out and show you how to shoot a gun, and

2013
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 22: we do that very very well.

2014
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Well twenty two I have that topat phil. Are you

2015
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: seeing an upticket and membership that they pass a few

2016
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 1: months so or is it everything still relative to the same.

2017
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 22: Yeah, we've seen an uptick in the last and I

2018
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,560
Speaker 22: say seven months based on some of the things that

2019
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 22: are happening, you know, politically, socially, there's a lot of

2020
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 22: tension out there. People are coming to us saying, hey,

2021
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 22: you know, I just don't know what's going on with

2022
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 22: the country. Just to make sure I want to protect myself.

2023
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 22: So I'm going to get a gun for my family, myself,

2024
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 22: and everybody's going to learn how to shoot. So we're

2025
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 22: getting families joining, the mom, the dad, the kids are

2026
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 22: coming in and getting trained as well. So a really

2027
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 22: good thing to see our people slowly getting that burden

2028
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 22: that has been placed on there socially in the past

2029
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 22: of you know, black people should not have guns or

2030
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 22: there's something innately wrong. If you want to have a

2031
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 22: gun in your home. I think those days are long gone.

2032
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 22: People realize that you your first responder. Nobody's going to

2033
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 22: come and save you if somebody breaks in your house.

2034
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 22: You have to learn how to protect yourself. If you

2035
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 22: have social unrest, mob violence, you have to be able

2036
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 22: to protect yourself. And at NAGA, that's the National African

2037
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 22: American Gun Association, we're able to do that at a

2038
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 22: very very high level because we have great people in

2039
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 22: our organization on the ground. And when I see the ground,

2040
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 22: I mean instructors. We have chapter presidents, we have state directors,

2041
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 22: we have regional directors that push the narrative of our

2042
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 22: community being able to protect itself and all times and

2043
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 22: in every format that is presented to them.

2044
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: At twenty and a half the Tom Man, I think

2045
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: that's important that that people know that some of people

2046
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: will have guns, will be packing. But Phil, what age

2047
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 1: children do you teach children? Is there age limit that

2048
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 1: they come in and learn about the weapons.

2049
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 7: No.

2050
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 22: What we always tell anyone that has a child that

2051
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 22: wants to come and shoot, because the other folks, other

2052
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 22: folks in America, they bring their kids, you know, as

2053
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 22: young as seven or eight nine, They learn how to

2054
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 22: shoot a gun. And I say the same thing to

2055
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 22: black people across this country. If you have a child

2056
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 22: in the home, and you think as the parent, because

2057
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 22: you're going to be there as the chaperone obviously, and

2058
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 22: they want and they think they need to be introduced

2059
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 22: to guns, and they have the mental maturity and the

2060
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 22: emotional strength to do that. Bring your kids to the range.

2061
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 22: A lot of kids are at the range now with

2062
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 22: their parents because that child needs to know how to

2063
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 22: shoot a gun. Also, so when they're coming up and

2064
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 22: getting raised in your home, they understand the power and

2065
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 22: the dangers of the firearm, so that they should know

2066
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 22: how to use it. And this don't, I guess, leave

2067
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 22: that for chance by not having them introduced to the

2068
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 22: firearm and getting fully trained.

2069
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: Twenty five That top. Phil Larry's joining us easy in Maryland.

2070
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: He has a question for you online one Grand Rising. Larry.

2071
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 10: You're on with Phil Smith, Grand Rising, This conversation is

2072
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 10: past due, overdue. When I think of guns, I think

2073
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 10: of calet Muhammad. We must arm ourselves or harm ourselves. Now,

2074
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 10: I want to ask a question with Donald Trump changing

2075
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 10: the law in the District of Columbia that if you

2076
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 10: kill someone it's death penalty. Where does that stand when

2077
01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 10: it comes to self defense and stands your ground? Do

2078
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 10: you think that that law has to be changed to

2079
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 10: protect the citizens protecting their own life and violent.

2080
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 22: And that's a great question, brother, and nice to meet

2081
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 22: you this morning.

2082
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2083
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 22: I think anytime there's a law that prevents you from

2084
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 22: protecting yourself and your family, that's a law that needs

2085
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 22: to be challenged in the courts. If someone breaks into

2086
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 22: my home, and I'm talking universally across the country, if

2087
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 22: someone breaks into your home or threatens to kill you

2088
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 22: out in the street, you should have the right to

2089
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 22: protect yourself, especially if they have a firearm. You are

2090
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 22: not a If I would tell everyone black people, we

2091
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 22: are not discounted citizens, are sub Americans. Our black folks

2092
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 22: die for this country, our ancestors, and we have the

2093
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 22: ultimate right at all times to protect ourselves because of that.

2094
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 22: Our bloods have been in the streets for a long time,

2095
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 22: because we fought for this country when we weren't even

2096
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 22: considered a human. We were three fifths of a person.

2097
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 22: So we make no apologies for any mindset that we have.

2098
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 22: And I believe that we have the right to protect ourselves.

2099
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:14,560
Speaker 22: If someone is coming to kill you or to harm you,

2100
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 22: you have the right to protect yourself. Brother, And there's

2101
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 22: a legislation that is to that point that you're making.

2102
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 22: We need to go to the courts and use the

2103
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 22: strength of the strength of our people to go to

2104
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 22: vote and to change that narrative and change that legislation,

2105
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,799
Speaker 22: because I think it's absurd that you can't protect yourself

2106
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 22: or as you said, it was stated very well, stand

2107
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 22: your ground.

2108
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 1: You should have that right, got you twenty seven At

2109
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 1: the top of that family, Phil Smith is the president

2110
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: of the National African American Gun Associations with US this morning, Phil,

2111
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: You've mentioned there's been a search in membership, but where

2112
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: is that coming from. Is this from the southern areas

2113
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: of suburban areas or is it coming from the inner cities.

2114
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: Where are you seeing people's literally.

2115
01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 22: Every sector of society and geographic area of the country

2116
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,919
Speaker 22: has seen an uptick. That's the northeast, that's the southeast,

2117
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 22: that's the midwest, Chicago, that's the far west, southwest, everyone

2118
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 22: that's seen an increase in membership because of what's going

2119
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 22: on in the country regards to where your political leanings are.

2120
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 22: People see people are not stupid, especially Black folks. We

2121
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 22: are very very intelligent. And we look around and we

2122
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 22: see the social barometer and the political tension that's going

2123
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 22: up and up and up, and it's getting tense, more

2124
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 22: tents and more tense, and we say, you know what

2125
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 22: I think. I think I need to get a gun.

2126
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 22: Let's go to philis group, the National Ask American Gun Association,

2127
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 22: so I can get trained, my wife can get trained,

2128
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 22: I can get trained, I can have my mother getting trained,

2129
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 22: my brother, my sister, pulling my friends. That's common sense.

2130
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 22: That makes an intelligent decision. To me, it's unintelligent to

2131
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 22: not have a firearm in today's world, in twenty twenty five,

2132
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 22: based on what's going on around you. If every other community,

2133
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 22: I want to try to give this information out to

2134
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 22: all of our listeners right now. If you get anything

2135
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 22: from this conversation this morning, please take this away. If

2136
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 22: every other community around you, of different colors and ethnicities

2137
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 22: has firearms, but you, but black people, you are putting

2138
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 22: yourself in harm's way if something were to jump off.

2139
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 22: You cannot be the only person that doesn't have a

2140
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 22: firearm and expect you're going to get some type of

2141
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 22: savior to come in and protect your community because you

2142
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 22: know what, folks, they can't and they won't.

2143
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: Do not be at the.

2144
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 22: Mercy of your oppressor. That's the worst position to be in.

2145
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 22: The position you want to be in is a position

2146
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 22: of strength where you have teams of people that are

2147
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 22: trained in your community, your family's trained. We have a

2148
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 22: program called the NEST. That's the NAGA Emergency Support Team.

2149
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 22: It's an emergency preparedness program that we have and in

2150
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 22: the NEST, everyone has a group of folks throughout the

2151
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 22: country that protects each other, little groups of six, eight, nine,

2152
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 22: ten people. It could be your brothers, it could be

2153
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 22: your family, it could be your neighbors, and everyone has

2154
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 22: a duty. If something happens, you can gravitate to your

2155
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 22: nest to protect yourself and everybody has a role within

2156
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 22: that nest. They're incredibly popular right now within our community

2157
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 22: and in our organization because it makes sense if chaos

2158
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 22: is happening socially, what are we going to do as

2159
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 22: a community, as a family. Well, I've got my brother,

2160
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 22: I've got my next door neighbor. We all got guns,

2161
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 22: we've got food, we've got water. We are prepared for

2162
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 22: an emergency. And that's what it is, NAGA Emergency Support them.

2163
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 22: It's been incredibly popular and the theme has warped into

2164
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 22: a very powerful vehicle for conversations and being prepared for

2165
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 22: emergencies excuse me that might occur. That includes we have

2166
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 22: a group of within the nests that hands communication called

2167
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 22: our Black Ham Radio Group, which is incredibly popular because

2168
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 22: we're thinking about the whole long game. We're just not

2169
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 22: talking about if one person in your street has a problem,

2170
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 22: what they're going to do. We're talking about the community

2171
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 22: coming together and saying, you know, we got this brother's back,

2172
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 22: we got the sisters back, and we're able to protect

2173
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 22: each other. And if anything happens across town and let's

2174
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 22: say all the sale communication is going down, we have

2175
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 22: brothers and sisters who have Ham radio expertise that can

2176
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 22: still communicate with each other. So we're thinking the whole

2177
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 22: long game, not just a small random fix, but we're

2178
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 22: thinking about how can we fully one hundred percent protect

2179
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 22: ourselves as a black community when it comes to guns.

2180
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: All right, twenty nine Away from the Top, Phil Smith

2181
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: and the president of the National African American Gun Associations,

2182
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess those you been listening to this program for

2183
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: a while and no Mark from Anheim has told us

2184
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,879
Speaker 1: about the bug out back and one of the components

2185
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 1: he says, you have to have a gun. Keep saying

2186
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: that you have to have your bug out back because

2187
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: whatever may come down, you have to be able to

2188
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: protect yourself. You know, us passing a gun range that

2189
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the other day and I saw there was a bus

2190
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: full of of Asians on the bus and they're all

2191
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 1: going to the gun range. And I remarked, wow, because

2192
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: looking at the bus, see if I can find a

2193
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: black face. You're always looking for the black face and

2194
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: anything that I do. I don't know why, probably you know,

2195
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at and Phil, the entire bus was

2196
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Asians and they were going to the gun range. So

2197
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. You know, our people, you said there's

2198
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: a search, So that's good that our people are signing

2199
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: up with your group to learn more about weapons. But

2200
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 1: also do you help them purchase weapons? Are they do

2201
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 1: we have any manufacturers that sell guns? So that you know,

2202
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: part of this product too is to recycle our dollars.

2203
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: So do you guys help them, you know, to find

2204
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: places where I can buy weapons from black manufacturers of

2205
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: black people who sell weapons.

2206
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 22: We help our members find the best option for them

2207
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 22: to purchase a gun in the area as fast as possible. Unfortunately,

2208
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 22: this is the one to kink in. I think that

2209
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 22: are communities that we do not have enough black gun manufacturers.

2210
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 22: We might have one or two nationally, and those aren't

2211
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 22: doing great to be quite honest. But we have been

2212
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 22: as a as a second option, we have been able

2213
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 22: to partner with certain firearm organizations, gun manufacturers that understand

2214
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 22: what we're trying to do, and they give us discounts.

2215
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 22: They give us opportunities to for us to come in

2216
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 22: and purchase guns either collectively are really good single rates

2217
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 22: for for for purchasing a firearm. The key in all

2218
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 22: of this, and I'm back tracked to your statement about

2219
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 22: the Asian community that you saw on the bus, and

2220
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 22: I'll repeat it, and I hope everyone understands this, and

2221
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 22: this is not happening in my mind, This is happening

2222
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 22: real time right now. Every other community is getting ready

2223
01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 22: for whatever.

2224
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 7: Except us.

2225
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 8: Now.

2226
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 22: Our group is doing well, but black people. There are

2227
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 22: fourteen million black people in this country right now, and

2228
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 22: fourteen I say about thirteen million of them are not prepared.

2229
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 22: Just because you buy a gun and put it in

2230
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,839
Speaker 22: the shelf or an attic, or in a vault somewhere,

2231
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 22: and you do not practice. Makes you ill prepared for

2232
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 22: anything that can happen to you in a violent way.

2233
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 22: If you don't practice with that gun, if you don't

2234
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 22: get trained in that gun, if you don't continually practice

2235
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 22: with that gun, you will not be ready to protect yourself.

2236
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 22: It's like working out. If you do not work out

2237
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,840
Speaker 22: and expect you go to the gym and think you're

2238
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 22: going to four hundred pounds when you haven't worked out

2239
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 22: in a year or a half or two years, you

2240
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 22: know what's going to be going to happen. You're going

2241
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 22: to be really given a wake up call that you

2242
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 22: are not in shape. The same thing with the gun.

2243
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 22: You have to build what we call muscle memory. How

2244
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 22: do you work under duress? Can you get that gun

2245
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 22: out of your vault and you on your side hip

2246
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 22: and then in a defensive stand? How long will it

2247
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 22: take you to do that under pressure? When I say

2248
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 22: under pressure, you actually hear folks, because it's usually more

2249
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 22: than more than one nowadays, breaking in your home, about

2250
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 22: to kill, a rape and shoot your family, your wife,

2251
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 22: your kids, and yourself. Are you prepared for that type

2252
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 22: of protection, that level of defense. If you are not,

2253
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 22: please sign up for our organization today. Not that I

2254
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 22: want you to sign up just for the sake of

2255
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 22: signing up, is because you need that. And I am

2256
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 22: literally I'm not going to beg anybody to join, but

2257
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 22: I certainly want everybody to be aware of the dangers

2258
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 22: that are happening in this country right now. People are

2259
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 22: getting prepared, and I mean prepared for whatever. So please

2260
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:55,600
Speaker 22: don't be the group or the person that is not

2261
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 22: prepared when something pumps. We call it sahi TF. I'm

2262
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 22: not going to repeat the word, but you understand what

2263
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 22: I'm saying. You don't want to be that group or

2264
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 22: that person that is looking around and seeing everyone prepared

2265
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 22: except you and your house and your community. And we're

2266
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 22: just the mindset that we are not going to allow

2267
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 22: that to happen. We're going to push our agenda, which

2268
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 22: is getting our folks exposed to being able to protect

2269
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 22: themselves at a high level under duress, under pressure, and

2270
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 22: to work collectively. That's important. There's a statement that I

2271
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 22: use all the time. If you want to go fast,

2272
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 22: go alone. But if you want to go far, go

2273
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 22: together collectively. And that's what we do at our organization.

2274
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 22: We get people in large groups continually across the country

2275
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 22: to get trained and to train each other and to

2276
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 22: work together and to practice and to get really, really

2277
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 22: good with the firearm. And we are extremely proficient at

2278
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 22: training folks across the country in any geographical area with

2279
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 22: our organization, and that's something I'm very proud. If you're

2280
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 22: on the West coast, we have people. If you're on

2281
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:58,160
Speaker 22: the East coast, the southeast, the Midwest, the northeast, we

2282
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:03,360
Speaker 22: have qualified doctors that can come in and say, Okay, Carl,

2283
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 22: I'm gonna show you how to hold a gun, shoot

2284
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 22: a gun. We're gonna recommend what kind of animal you

2285
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 22: should buy. We're going to show you how you should

2286
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 22: store your gun at home. We're going to introduce you

2287
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 22: to if you're a black woman, what we call our

2288
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 22: queens of Defense. Those are all black women in the

2289
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 22: thousands across the country. These are doctors, these are nurses,

2290
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 22: these are single moms, these are professionals. We're going to

2291
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 22: show you and introduce you into that. We're also going

2292
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 22: to show you our online community, which is twenty four

2293
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 22: to seven. That means at any point in time, if

2294
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 22: you want to talk to some brothers and sisters, you

2295
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 22: log in and you can talk in text with some

2296
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 22: brothers and sisters across the country. You might want to

2297
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 22: meet somebody in California, you can do that. If you

2298
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 22: want to talk to somebody in Texas, you can do that.

2299
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 22: So we have programs. We have the black Ham Radio Group,

2300
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 22: we have the Queens of Defense, we have the NEST Program.

2301
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 22: We give a travel program called the SEED Program Students Exposed,

2302
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 22: Educated and developed in the two A community and those

2303
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 22: are kids eighteen to twenty four that is free to join.

2304
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 7: Right there, Phil, we.

2305
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 1: All set beside for a few months, says you finish

2306
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 1: your thought, we'd come back. I got some folks want

2307
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Also got a tweet question about

2308
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 1: bullets and say there's a run on bullets there the

2309
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 1: shortage of bullets. So maybe you can share that with

2310
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: us as well. Family, you two can join our conversation

2311
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 1: with Phil Smith. Phil is the president of the National

2312
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: African American Gun Association. You can reach them at eight

2313
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

2314
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 1: take your phone calls. Next Hang Ran Rolson Towny. Thanks

2315
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: for rolling with us on this Tuesday morning. I guess

2316
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: is Phil Smith. Phil is the president of the National

2317
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: African American Gun Association. His group now seeing a surge

2318
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 1: of folks signing up to become members, trying to find

2319
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 1: out how to handle guns, how to shoot guns, how

2320
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: to store guns. And also they got a programs you

2321
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 1: mentioned for children. There's program for some sisters as well

2322
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 1: who feel they need protection. It's no man in the

2323
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 1: homes and so they're signing up as well. What are

2324
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts five hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

2325
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 1: Before we go back to Phil, just want to remind

2326
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: you come up later this morning. You speak of the economist,

2327
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 1: doctor Julian Malveaux t that's what's going on with the

2328
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 1: economy and this government shutdown. But Phil, the question I

2329
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: asked before the break was about bullets. If it's just

2330
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 1: a text and says there was a shortage of bullets,

2331
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 1: is there any truth to that or is that just

2332
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 1: some sort of internet rumor.

2333
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 22: There's a there was a severe shortage about a year ago.

2334
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 22: But you can get access to bullets. You have to

2335
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 22: do a little digging, go on the internet and see

2336
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 22: what's available. But you can get purchase bullets, you know,

2337
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 22: across the country, depending on what company you're talking to,

2338
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 22: in the price point that you want. Because bullets cost money.

2339
02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 22: That is an extensive aspect of getting a gun. Bullets

2340
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 22: are not free.

2341
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: It's figuring about that though. When you guys recommend or

2342
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 1: go to a supply, whether it be for the bullets

2343
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: or for the gun, and they know where you're from,

2344
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: the National African American Gun Assession, your black folks are

2345
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 1: buying guns, you get any pushback from them.

2346
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 7: Not pushback.

2347
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 22: They're glad for our business we come in and that's

2348
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 22: I want people to understand black folks, we are a

2349
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 22: powerful block they as consumers. So when we're talking to

2350
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 22: an organization and many we have discounts with, when you're

2351
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 22: coming to them, they understand the the group of folks

2352
02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 22: that you represent behind you. So they're going to definitely

2353
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 22: treat you well. They're going to give you what you

2354
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 22: want and execute on that purchase and get that information

2355
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 22: or that that product to you. If they don't and

2356
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 22: you treat it else, treated in a fashion that is negative,

2357
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 22: that is racist, that is degrading your interaction with them,

2358
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,240
Speaker 22: Please let us know, and we'll make sure that they

2359
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 22: are taking off our list immediately. We won't recommend you

2360
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 22: to anyone to go to that company because we have

2361
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 22: we have money. We have dollars in our organization because

2362
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 22: our people have money and dollars. Well, as I said before,

2363
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 22: we're not degraded citizens or sub Americans. We are Americans

2364
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 22: and we want to be treated as such, particularly be

2365
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 22: an African American. And that's something we're very proud of

2366
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 22: and we're not going to tolerate anything less than that.

2367
02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 1: All right, sixteen away from the top Brother Policies online

2368
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 1: why he's calling for Waldorff has a question for you

2369
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 1: Grand Rising brother College with Phil Smith.

2370
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 28: Yeah, Grand Rising, my dear brothers, I appreciate all the information,

2371
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 28: and I'm first of all, I'm not against responsible gun ownership.

2372
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 28: My question has to be to do with the implied

2373
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 28: bias that faces our community and what do we do

2374
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 28: if we are confronted by a racist police cop, like

2375
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 28: for example, the jump the Air Force man officer in

2376
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 28: Florida to be a rice and others, or a masked

2377
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 28: Ice agent kicking down out during the middle of the night,

2378
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 28: and how should we respond at as a citizen to

2379
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 28: avoid getting shot immediately by that racist cop or ice

2380
02:07:56,040 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 28: agent or whatever that comes into our community.

2381
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 22: That's a great question. I always have recommended and stated

2382
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 22: if you're contacted or you have any interactions with law

2383
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 22: enforce force with either on a local or federal level,

2384
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 22: comply because you're not going to win that court case

2385
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 22: on the sidewalk at at night or in the middle

2386
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 22: of the day. Just do what they're asking, even though

2387
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 22: you know it is illegal, so you can come home

2388
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 22: and be able to fight that legally. Fighting with them

2389
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 22: physically or having any interaction that's going to send you

2390
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 22: down a road that you don't want to go because

2391
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 22: they have everything in their power at that particular point.

2392
02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 22: So just do what you're told, give me information if

2393
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 22: they say something crazy, don't do anything. Just recorded if

2394
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:43,400
Speaker 22: you can with your phone and take legal action. We

2395
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 22: can't sit back and when it happens, do nothing. We

2396
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 22: have to legally go after these folks, just like they

2397
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 22: did in the sixties, just like they did in the seventies.

2398
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 22: You have to fight, and you have to fight strategically

2399
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 22: and to use your head. But don't ever try to

2400
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,320
Speaker 22: have a settle your court case on the side walk

2401
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 22: are in your car when you're getting pulled over by

2402
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 22: the law enforcement, because nine times out of ten you're

2403
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 22: going to lose.

2404
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 28: Well, if a mass person comes to your door and

2405
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 28: says he's an ice agent, how can you how can

2406
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 28: you determine whether he's a mass agent or an outlaw

2407
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 28: or somebody else that comes and tries to break into

2408
02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 28: your house and so forth? How do you determine that?

2409
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,120
Speaker 28: I just I don't get it, but I'll take the

2410
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 28: answer off air.

2411
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 8: Thank you.

2412
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a great question.

2413
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 22: In many cases you don't know. But I would recommend

2414
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 22: if somebody's banging at your door and they're saying whoever

2415
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 22: they are, I would call nine one one first and foremost,

2416
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:40,400
Speaker 22: don't open that door. Ask them to present information or

2417
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 22: present there, I guess whatever they carry to say that

2418
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 22: I am a their certificate or not certificate, they their badge.

2419
02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:52,600
Speaker 22: Take a picture of that. Tell your friends, call all

2420
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 22: of your family members, letting them know that something is happening,

2421
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 22: and tell your community that this is happening. So everyone

2422
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 22: can rally around you. But you your head, and that's

2423
02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 22: a that's a very difficult position to be in. But

2424
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,440
Speaker 22: use your head. Uh So, you can live another day

2425
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 22: and fight that legally.

2426
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 1: I got some more folks want to talk. You got

2427
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 1: a tweet question for you thirteen away from the topic. I.

2428
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Phil Smith is the president of the National African American

2429
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 1: Gun Association. Phil and the tweeter says, how do you

2430
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 1: deal with the mindset of self hate that has so

2431
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: many of us shooting each other?

2432
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 7: Well?

2433
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 22: I always say, if, if, if there's some reason reason

2434
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 22: black folks are shooting each other, what's the reason? Why

2435
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 22: are we shooting each other? If that's case. If that's

2436
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 22: the case, and then many times we are in position

2437
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 22: economically where we are forced to fight to survive. But

2438
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 22: I would tell everyone to take a step back and

2439
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 22: look at the symptom, look at the disease. Now, this

2440
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 22: is a question that those beyond just guns. If the

2441
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 22: schools aren't teaching our kids to come out with a

2442
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 22: skill they can get a job. If our if our

2443
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 22: kids have a confrontational relationship with the cops at best,

2444
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 22: what are we really saying. If we're giving our kids

2445
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 22: a lifetime felonies at the age of twenty, what is

2446
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 22: that saying. What we need to do is change the institutions,

2447
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 22: stop giving kids felonies for life. Stop having schools that

2448
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 22: don't produce any kind of skills for our children, because

2449
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 22: when they graduate from high school, they have to go

2450
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 22: out into the mainframe of America economically and get able

2451
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 22: to get a job. If you can't have any way

2452
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 22: to get a job, to articulate your needs and your skills,

2453
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 22: what are you gonna do. You're gonna do what anyone

2454
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 22: else would do. You would do what I would do

2455
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 22: if I have babies at feed at home, I'm gonna

2456
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 22: do whatever it takes. So we need to step back

2457
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 22: and say, why are these kids or why are these

2458
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 22: groups of people shooting each other? What's the disease? Not

2459
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 22: the symptom? What's the disease?

2460
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: Got you ten away from the top? As I mentioned,

2461
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 1: more folks who want to talk to your Line three,

2462
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 1: Brother Mohama's calling from Washington, DC. Salam alekm Brother Mohammed,

2463
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 1: John Woud, Phil Smith, Well Lacoul Sailim.

2464
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 8: This guest is way overdue.

2465
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:08,640
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this type of a guest yesterday

2466
02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 5: listening to the show. One thing I would like, Missus Smith,

2467
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 5: is it one thing I would like to suggest? I

2468
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:21,880
Speaker 5: would like to suggest that we start getting involved with

2469
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 5: the sheriff's department in our communities around the country, because

2470
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:29,440
Speaker 5: like here, right here in Prince George's County, I believe

2471
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 5: it was only sixty thousand votes that gave Sheriff car

2472
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 5: the Sheriff's department of Prince George County. Now the Sheriff's

2473
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 5: Department of Prince George's County is over sixty million dollars

2474
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 5: a year, okay. And the reason I would suggest this

2475
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 5: is because the sheriff cannot be fired. So that means

2476
02:12:56,240 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 5: we need to start leveraging these sheriffs to cater to

2477
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 5: our community and especially to our gun community. In Charles

2478
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:11,240
Speaker 5: County right next door, only forty thousand votes at the

2479
02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:13,960
Speaker 5: Sheriff of Charles County, and the Sheriff of Charles County

2480
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 5: is over one hundred and forty million dollars a year.

2481
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:21,000
Speaker 5: So and like I said, they cannot be fired. They

2482
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,240
Speaker 5: can only be arrested for criminal activity or voted out

2483
02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 5: of office. And a sheriff has tremendous powers to look

2484
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:33,760
Speaker 5: after the African American gun community in this country. And

2485
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:36,640
Speaker 5: so I think this should be a nationwide thing that

2486
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 5: we do as a people. And I'd like to work

2487
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 5: with you in bringing in our sheriff's department, which have

2488
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 5: you know, access to ranges and weapons training and all

2489
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:52,800
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff under our influence in our control.

2490
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 8: Nationwide.

2491
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 5: And I'll listen to your response.

2492
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:02,800
Speaker 22: All right, thanks you, But that's an outstanding point because

2493
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 22: what you're saying is something we've been talking about for years.

2494
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:09,480
Speaker 22: You have to build relationships with those folks, particularly sheriffs,

2495
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 22: because he's on point. Once those sheriffs are in office,

2496
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:16,240
Speaker 22: they have an incredible amount of control, power, influence. They

2497
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:18,839
Speaker 22: can stop things in this tracks or they can promote

2498
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:22,840
Speaker 22: a different agenda, but they also understand they have to

2499
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:26,600
Speaker 22: listen to the folks in their community that put them

2500
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 22: in office. And that's where black folks if we come together,

2501
02:14:30,760 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 22: if we come together, we can make changes. But we

2502
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:36,160
Speaker 22: can't do it individually. We have to do it collectively

2503
02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 22: because they're not going to listen to one voice, but

2504
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,600
Speaker 22: they will listen to ten thousand voices or twenty thousand

2505
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:44,400
Speaker 22: voices in unity saying hey, we want this type of

2506
02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:48,120
Speaker 22: relationship with law enforcement in our area. We want black

2507
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 22: folks to be able to go to a gun range

2508
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:53,880
Speaker 22: unharrassed and support it. What are you going to do

2509
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 22: to make that or facilitate that type of interaction with

2510
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:57,200
Speaker 22: our people.

2511
02:14:58,160 --> 02:14:58,920
Speaker 7: That's what we need to do.

2512
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,920
Speaker 1: Away from the topic, folks want to talk to you

2513
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 1: in Baltimore Money MIC's online for a grand rise in money. Mike.

2514
02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:08,680
Speaker 1: Your question for Phil, good morning to call.

2515
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:11,240
Speaker 7: Good morning Phil, and good morning brother.

2516
02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:14,600
Speaker 9: Good morning, Hey missus Smith. Have you ever thought about

2517
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 9: running for political office?

2518
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 22: No, my wife won't let me. She she got me

2519
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 22: locked down here at the house. Man, I can't get out.

2520
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 9: Okay, mind the same, I can't run. But look, can

2521
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,160
Speaker 9: you talk say that that piece that you talked about

2522
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:31,360
Speaker 9: with our economic power, because I don't believe this audience

2523
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:35,720
Speaker 9: understands the power of money, you know, And that's what

2524
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 9: I want you to tell them again is people respect

2525
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 9: our dollars, but people treat us bad when we don't

2526
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,160
Speaker 9: know the power of our dollars. So can you say

2527
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:46,160
Speaker 9: that piece again for me and for the rest of

2528
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 9: the audience, And I'll take your response off.

2529
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 22: At absolutely brother, I'll say it again. If black folks

2530
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:57,920
Speaker 22: understand and we should understand our economic power. Meaning look

2531
02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 22: at the sixties when Martin one to shut down the

2532
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:05,400
Speaker 22: buses in Gunny because they were getting treated incorrectly and

2533
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:09,240
Speaker 22: in a very degrading way. They stop using those buses.

2534
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 22: So you know what happened. The buses quickly change their

2535
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:15,720
Speaker 22: their stance and let black people sit anywhere on the bus.

2536
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 22: The reason why economics money. When you come to a situation,

2537
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 22: regardless of that situation, in America, green is the ultimate

2538
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,879
Speaker 22: factor in many.

2539
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:27,360
Speaker 10: Many cases.

2540
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:31,160
Speaker 22: In most cases, So if someone is treating us not

2541
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 22: in a honorable way, in a fair way, we let

2542
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:41,200
Speaker 22: that institution know because money counts. Money makes a difference

2543
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 22: in every level in this in this world, and the

2544
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 22: world is America. So make sure that when you have

2545
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:51,279
Speaker 22: a problem, make sure community comes together, make sure everyone

2546
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:55,920
Speaker 22: is on board and execute your strategy. And bottom line

2547
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 22: of your dollar is not respected. Don't go to the

2548
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:02,080
Speaker 22: that facility, don't go to that bank, don't go to

2549
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 22: that store, don't go to that nail shop, don't go

2550
02:17:04,440 --> 02:17:08,640
Speaker 22: to that restaurant. Make your presence felt, and that's how

2551
02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:11,280
Speaker 22: you get respect in America. Now, I know this is

2552
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:15,040
Speaker 22: beyond guns, but trust me, guns is at the foundation

2553
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:17,600
Speaker 22: because it means strength and power, and that's what our

2554
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:21,240
Speaker 22: organizations about. So if anyone has any thoughts or any

2555
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:24,080
Speaker 22: collaborations that they would like to do. Please contact me

2556
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 22: at the National Lifework and Gun Association.

2557
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:28,360
Speaker 10: I would love to talk to you, all.

2558
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:31,119
Speaker 1: Right, stix away from TOFA and Nigel like to talk

2559
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:33,720
Speaker 1: to you. He's calling for Baltimore's online one Grand riseing

2560
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,039
Speaker 1: nigelliotone with Phil.

2561
02:17:34,840 --> 02:17:36,680
Speaker 7: Smith grund Rising.

2562
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:37,120
Speaker 8: Gentlemen.

2563
02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:42,600
Speaker 17: So I wanted to give you guys a call on

2564
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:46,840
Speaker 17: the topic of compliance. And now I heard you talk

2565
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 17: about not wanting to litigate matters in the street, and

2566
02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:53,080
Speaker 17: I agree with you. But here is the problem. In fact,

2567
02:17:53,080 --> 02:18:00,360
Speaker 17: there's two problems. One, we routinely wants were stop say

2568
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 17: things or otherwise take actions that allow for us to

2569
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:11,000
Speaker 17: waive certain constitutional guarantees. Okay, And that's the problem. So

2570
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:14,840
Speaker 17: by the time that you get with your lawyer after,

2571
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 17: there's a problem. Now your lawyer is in a position

2572
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 17: where he or she cannot really support you as zaliously

2573
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:25,760
Speaker 17: as he or she would want to because you waigh

2574
02:18:25,959 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 17: certain rights based on your compliance. Now, I'm sure that

2575
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 17: you've been hearing in the news recently, especially in Chicago,

2576
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:42,320
Speaker 17: with lawful gun owners carrying ccls being pulled over and

2577
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:46,680
Speaker 17: being arrested. So what I see as part of the

2578
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 17: problem is, you know, it's an eagerness within black people,

2579
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 17: especially earlier you were talking about the different professionals that

2580
02:18:56,840 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 17: are now seeking to become gun owners and train.

2581
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:02,960
Speaker 7: That group.

2582
02:19:03,560 --> 02:19:07,720
Speaker 17: Part of that group now is inviting individuals who believe

2583
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,920
Speaker 17: that they are on a much different level from every

2584
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 17: other black person. So there's an internet for these individuals,

2585
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:21,959
Speaker 17: once making contact with law enforcement, to now feel compelled

2586
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 17: to let the officer know that they are not like

2587
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 17: those other negroes. So they'll say, okay, so the cop

2588
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:32,720
Speaker 17: will stop you for a tail light or or a

2589
02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:34,240
Speaker 17: tide violation, or whatever the.

2590
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 7: Case might be.

2591
02:19:35,360 --> 02:19:37,320
Speaker 17: And the first thing these individuals are going to say

2592
02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:39,120
Speaker 17: to the cop is like I want you to know

2593
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:42,879
Speaker 17: that I have a CCL or like I'm otherwise armed.

2594
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 17: When the coup doesn't ask you, that you are under

2595
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 17: no obligation to help the police officers with any investigation.

2596
02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:50,640
Speaker 7: That's my point.

2597
02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:55,240
Speaker 1: All right, let me respond, Phil, were gonna take a

2598
02:19:55,320 --> 02:19:57,119
Speaker 1: show breaker. I'll let you respawn when we get back.

2599
02:19:57,360 --> 02:20:01,840
Speaker 1: Eight seventy six. Phil Smith. Phil is the president of

2600
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 1: the National African American Gun Association. I'll take your phone

2601
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:08,680
Speaker 1: calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks are sticking with

2602
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:10,879
Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning with I guess the president

2603
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:14,320
Speaker 1: of the National African American Gun Association, Phil Smith. Phil

2604
02:20:14,320 --> 02:20:17,120
Speaker 1: says been an uptick people signing up for membership with

2605
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:20,000
Speaker 1: his group blacks of buying guns and buying bullets. Of

2606
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:22,240
Speaker 1: course you need them as well, because as you mentioned,

2607
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:24,400
Speaker 1: there was a shortage on bunch, but now they're back

2608
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:26,560
Speaker 1: on the market because we don't know what's going to

2609
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:29,520
Speaker 1: come down. As Mark from anaheimsmen tellency, your gun should

2610
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:31,800
Speaker 1: be part of your your bug out bag. Anyway, Phil,

2611
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:33,360
Speaker 1: I know you want to respond to what Nigel and

2612
02:20:33,400 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore said before he left for the break, So I'll

2613
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:36,080
Speaker 1: let you finish that.

2614
02:20:36,879 --> 02:20:39,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I respect the brother for having a perspective,

2615
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:42,480
Speaker 7: but I just want to push back a little bit,

2616
02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:44,120
Speaker 7: not not push back, but just want to give him

2617
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:50,040
Speaker 7: some nuggets to think on. Black people are joining to

2618
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:53,279
Speaker 7: get guns or getting guns and then join my organization

2619
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:56,920
Speaker 7: because they want to protect themselves. And they come from

2620
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 7: all economics, you know, st stratification. We're very rich ballers.

2621
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:07,000
Speaker 7: We've got players that play ball professionally, basketball, football, we

2622
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:09,960
Speaker 7: got many many entertainers, rappers, you name it. We have

2623
02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:15,160
Speaker 7: in our organization. When they're stopped, they're not and I'm

2624
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 7: putting a wide brush here, they're not stopping and saying hey,

2625
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 7: you know, not most anyway, Hey I'm such and such,

2626
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 7: I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm a rapper. Maybe some,

2627
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,480
Speaker 7: but most are just saying, hey, yes, sir, no sir,

2628
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:33,720
Speaker 7: here's my registration, licensed, proof of insurance.

2629
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:37,080
Speaker 22: That's what most of our folks are doing. But what

2630
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:40,160
Speaker 22: they're getting in many, many cases, not all, because some

2631
02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:42,960
Speaker 22: law enforcement officers and brothers out there they do a

2632
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:47,200
Speaker 22: great job, but there is a percentage that is confrontational

2633
02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:52,039
Speaker 22: and they want to push an agenda that is going

2634
02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:55,400
Speaker 22: to be a hurtful process for our people in that

2635
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,000
Speaker 22: situation because they have all the power. They're stopping you

2636
02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:00,920
Speaker 22: on the side of the road, and they they're executing

2637
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:05,840
Speaker 22: their mandate on you beyond just stopping and asking for

2638
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:11,440
Speaker 22: information regarding a driving violation, if there is a driving violation.

2639
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 22: Our people are very intelligent and they know the difference

2640
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:19,840
Speaker 22: between lawful activities and somebody pushing the agenda. And unfortunately,

2641
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:23,680
Speaker 22: what's happening to many of our folks, they are complying

2642
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:27,640
Speaker 22: to his point. They are being very compliant, but they're

2643
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:31,440
Speaker 22: still getting put in position of being arrested.

2644
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:31,640
Speaker 4: Now.

2645
02:22:31,640 --> 02:22:32,360
Speaker 17: I was part of the.

2646
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:38,360
Speaker 22: CBS special that they had on the black folks being

2647
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:41,640
Speaker 22: arrested in Chicago. You'll see the video to see that

2648
02:22:41,720 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 22: I had a perspective and they asked me for my commentary,

2649
02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:47,800
Speaker 22: which I gave them. But when our people are being compliant,

2650
02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:51,480
Speaker 22: and it's the system that is wrong that needs to

2651
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:53,560
Speaker 22: be addressed. Now what's happened with Chakapa, and I hope

2652
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:57,039
Speaker 22: to god they are fixing it. The database that's supposed

2653
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:02,120
Speaker 22: to reflect that person's legal status was about four to

2654
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:05,760
Speaker 22: five months delinquent. So if you and I went today

2655
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:07,959
Speaker 22: and where let's say, for an example, went to Chicago

2656
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 22: and got our CCL and our FOID card, it would

2657
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,439
Speaker 22: take three or four months for that system to be updated.

2658
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:17,279
Speaker 22: In the interim, if we were sought by the police,

2659
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:19,880
Speaker 22: the police would say, hey, yo, we'd check the system

2660
02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:22,880
Speaker 22: and you're not in that system, so we're going to

2661
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 22: arrest you, even though I've got proof of my CCL

2662
02:23:27,320 --> 02:23:31,040
Speaker 22: and proof of my FOID card in your face. That's

2663
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,240
Speaker 22: an injustice that has to be taken care of. Because

2664
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:36,600
Speaker 22: those folks are now given felonies which are very, very

2665
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:39,840
Speaker 22: difficult to get rid of, and it costs money. That

2666
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:42,800
Speaker 22: a lot of our folks, as you know, are unlimited income.

2667
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:44,600
Speaker 22: So we have to address that, and we have to

2668
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:46,800
Speaker 22: do it strategically and with our with our head.

2669
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

2670
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 1: brothers say, Cou's checking in from Baltimore. Has a question

2671
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 1: for you? Is online? Three grand rising brother say Coup,

2672
02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:57,160
Speaker 1: you're on a Phil Smith.

2673
02:23:58,440 --> 02:24:05,520
Speaker 29: Yong Bo there din Filando Castile didn't he comply and

2674
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:07,000
Speaker 29: still got care about please.

2675
02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:11,800
Speaker 22: He not only did he comply, he was presenting information

2676
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:16,200
Speaker 22: to the law enforcement officer at that time, doing exactly

2677
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:18,720
Speaker 22: what he said. And I want to make a point,

2678
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:20,240
Speaker 22: and I know you have some follow up, but let

2679
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,840
Speaker 22: me let me interject this. If we're dealing with a

2680
02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:25,880
Speaker 22: cop that is racist, if we're dealing with a cop

2681
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:29,800
Speaker 22: that is ill trained or ill prepared to interact with

2682
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:32,720
Speaker 22: black folks, that cop should not be on the street.

2683
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:36,080
Speaker 22: And as I said the very next day after Pilando

2684
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:40,440
Speaker 22: Castille was shot, I suggested to every member to carry.

2685
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:43,840
Speaker 22: That's the one way I want everyone to conceal carry

2686
02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:47,720
Speaker 22: because we cannot let some rogue policemen or policemen plural

2687
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:52,400
Speaker 22: dictate how we're going to exercise our Second Amendment rights.

2688
02:24:52,680 --> 02:24:54,960
Speaker 22: As I said earlier in the show, black folks have

2689
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:58,720
Speaker 22: died for this country more than any other group without

2690
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:03,119
Speaker 22: any type of political are legal advantages, So we don't

2691
02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:05,360
Speaker 22: have to prove anything to anybody. But we're something I

2692
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:07,800
Speaker 22: call let one cop or two hundred cops. We're doing

2693
02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:09,960
Speaker 22: things that are legal to our people to dictate how

2694
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:11,640
Speaker 22: we're going to move forward for the next two or

2695
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:13,720
Speaker 22: three hundred years. That's not gonna happen. We're gonna go

2696
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:16,360
Speaker 22: after them legally, and that person should be put in jail.

2697
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 22: That's my perspective. Not all cops go ahead.

2698
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,920
Speaker 29: Yeah, but in the meantime, a lot of our people

2699
02:25:23,959 --> 02:25:25,240
Speaker 29: are being murdered in.

2700
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 20: Blue lives to me or rights.

2701
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 29: He was a little boy playing with a toy gun

2702
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:33,000
Speaker 29: at the recreation center. My point being, you don't seem

2703
02:25:33,080 --> 02:25:39,640
Speaker 29: to make exceptions full to the racist police officers who

2704
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:42,080
Speaker 29: hide behind their badge and do a lot of eating.

2705
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 29: Malcolm X said, don't throw away your life. Preserve your life.

2706
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:48,480
Speaker 29: It's the best thing you've got. But if you got

2707
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:53,000
Speaker 29: to get it up, let me eating seasons. I anticipate

2708
02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:56,760
Speaker 29: allowed behavior by a certain character depending on their body language,

2709
02:25:57,160 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 29: their approach.

2710
02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:02,200
Speaker 7: Right, you didn't tell in a.

2711
02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:04,920
Speaker 29: Dance how police office is gonna treat you, when they're

2712
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:08,200
Speaker 29: gonna treat you honorably within the comm times and the law,

2713
02:26:08,680 --> 02:26:11,040
Speaker 29: or whether it might be liking for somebody to leave

2714
02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:16,160
Speaker 29: to take out their hatred. Know, I have had numerous

2715
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:25,200
Speaker 29: registration treats showing all right, right, and I don't have no.

2716
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:30,080
Speaker 1: Problem all right. I think we lost brother, say, because

2717
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:32,720
Speaker 1: we're running late here with the Dr Malvaux and I

2718
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 1: still got some more folks want to talk to. Phil

2719
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:37,720
Speaker 1: also tweet questions, So let me just tweet because the

2720
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 1: tweet is sure, that's sorry about that, brother. Uh, the

2721
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 1: tweeted one of the two watch do you does your

2722
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:45,880
Speaker 1: group have a bunch of attorneys that you work with?

2723
02:26:51,440 --> 02:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Phil still with us, Oh, I think we lost feeling

2724
02:26:57,280 --> 02:27:00,680
Speaker 1: as well as uh. But Dr Malva was going on deck.

2725
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 1: We're going to get to her motel. She's going to

2726
02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 1: shed light on how the government shutdown is disproportionately impacting

2727
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:08,720
Speaker 1: the black community feel it. By the way, is the

2728
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:11,720
Speaker 1: president of the National African American Gun Association Philis told

2729
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:14,960
Speaker 1: us has been a surge of people signing up getting

2730
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:19,240
Speaker 1: membership for for guns gun ownership, and what they do.

2731
02:27:19,360 --> 02:27:21,120
Speaker 1: They teach you how to use the weapon, teach you

2732
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 1: how to you know, how to buy where to buy

2733
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 1: had how to get how to get the uh, the

2734
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 1: bullets as well, because you can need that. Because there

2735
02:27:27,879 --> 02:27:29,840
Speaker 1: was a shortage of bullets earlier this year. He said,

2736
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:32,440
Speaker 1: that's been rectified now because the other folks. Believe me,

2737
02:27:32,600 --> 02:27:34,640
Speaker 1: the other folks are stocking up. That's why there's a

2738
02:27:34,720 --> 02:27:38,000
Speaker 1: shortage of bullets. And it's training. As you mentioned, the

2739
02:27:38,080 --> 02:27:43,320
Speaker 1: members go all across the the economic social boundaries of

2740
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:47,039
Speaker 1: our community. Everybody's signing up to get to get their guns.

2741
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:50,120
Speaker 1: So that that's that's a good thing. So when just

2742
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:52,120
Speaker 1: in case something happens, as I mentioned, the Mark from

2743
02:27:52,120 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 1: Manheim has told us a long time ago, part of

2744
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:56,800
Speaker 1: your bug back should be a gun. You should have

2745
02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:59,720
Speaker 1: something to defend yourself. And this is where we're seeing

2746
02:27:59,720 --> 02:28:02,640
Speaker 1: a now. As Phil mentioned in the last few few

2747
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:06,039
Speaker 1: months here, since Donald Trump's second turn around, the people,

2748
02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:10,440
Speaker 1: how people are buying guns, and especially the sisters, as

2749
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:13,840
Speaker 1: he says, buying guns special single sisters. Also, well, it's

2750
02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot of professional folks, as you mentioned, anentertaining athletes

2751
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:20,800
Speaker 1: as well buying guns. So Phil, I'll not you finished

2752
02:28:20,840 --> 02:28:24,440
Speaker 1: responding to what brother say Ku said. And then the

2753
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 1: question I have for you is how does the person

2754
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:28,240
Speaker 1: wonder know if do you have guys have a bunch

2755
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:31,360
Speaker 1: of attorneys on retainer, And.

2756
02:28:31,400 --> 02:28:35,279
Speaker 22: That's a great question. Let me address the first question. Obviously,

2757
02:28:35,720 --> 02:28:38,200
Speaker 22: as a black man and I've been stopped many many

2758
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:41,800
Speaker 22: times by the law enforcement officers, I've been arrested by

2759
02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:45,800
Speaker 22: law enforcement office, I understand that process is the one

2760
02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:48,680
Speaker 22: thing you cannot do. The one thing you cannot do

2761
02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 22: is to give up. And I can feel the frustration

2762
02:28:51,879 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 22: and the pain in that brother's voice. It's a very

2763
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:59,680
Speaker 22: high heel to climb when people are going after you

2764
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:03,320
Speaker 22: literally for your life, and I get it. But the

2765
02:29:03,400 --> 02:29:07,000
Speaker 22: one thing you can't do is to put yourself in

2766
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:12,640
Speaker 22: a position to really be be being harmed off the

2767
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:15,200
Speaker 22: off the cuff. And I know it's hard. It's a

2768
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:17,880
Speaker 22: it's a very tight line that you're walking because you're

2769
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:20,600
Speaker 22: dealing with somebody that doesn't like you and they're looking

2770
02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:23,360
Speaker 22: for a reason. As I said, everyone, if you're stopped

2771
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:25,840
Speaker 22: by the police tend to put your hands, tend to

2772
02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:28,880
Speaker 22: on the steering wheel, don't move, have your insurance and

2773
02:29:29,040 --> 02:29:33,680
Speaker 22: registration in your hand, don't move, don't know regardless of

2774
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:37,640
Speaker 22: what he or she says, and go by the letter

2775
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:41,800
Speaker 22: of the law. Doesn't guarantee anything, but you're in basically

2776
02:29:42,080 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 22: behind enemy lines at that particular point, and act accordingly,

2777
02:29:45,879 --> 02:29:48,160
Speaker 22: use your head, do what the a person says, and

2778
02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:51,960
Speaker 22: hopefully that will be enough to satisfy any other investigative

2779
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 22: attitude of the cop. Don't worry about what you're saying

2780
02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:56,840
Speaker 22: to you and the tone and all that other stuff,

2781
02:29:56,920 --> 02:29:59,720
Speaker 22: but make sure that you comply because you're not. As

2782
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:01,240
Speaker 22: I said before, you're not going to win that fight

2783
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:04,320
Speaker 22: on the side of the road. But don't be discouraged

2784
02:30:04,480 --> 02:30:06,760
Speaker 22: and not carry a gun because some roll coop in

2785
02:30:06,879 --> 02:30:12,560
Speaker 22: some town has acted a fool. So I'll leave my

2786
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 22: comments at that point.

2787
02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:15,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I fail, we go. I'll let you go. Before

2788
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:18,279
Speaker 1: we let you go, though, how can folks join your organization?

2789
02:30:18,480 --> 02:30:20,680
Speaker 1: They wanted because you know they've they've seen the writing

2790
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:23,080
Speaker 1: on the wall, and people want to have something to

2791
02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:26,800
Speaker 1: protect themselves. And as you said, many people are signing up.

2792
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:28,960
Speaker 1: How can they reach your organization?

2793
02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:33,400
Speaker 22: Yeah, very simple, and we want everybody listening to join. Everybody,

2794
02:30:34,040 --> 02:30:37,280
Speaker 22: even if you don't have a gun. Join Go to

2795
02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:41,920
Speaker 22: www dot n A A g A dot col. That's

2796
02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:46,160
Speaker 22: NAGA dot co. Go to the website, sign up, read

2797
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:48,160
Speaker 22: the information on the Black history of Arms. We talk

2798
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:50,400
Speaker 22: about Malcolm, we talk about the Panthers, we talk about

2799
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:53,840
Speaker 22: Rob Williams. We talk about the strategy of black folks

2800
02:30:53,879 --> 02:30:58,040
Speaker 22: across this country upgrading their self defense and their ability

2801
02:30:58,120 --> 02:31:00,880
Speaker 22: to protect ourselves and their family. We'd love to have you.

2802
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:03,360
Speaker 22: We have online communities, we have Queens of Defense where

2803
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 22: there's roughly over fifteen thousand black women on our organization

2804
02:31:09,600 --> 02:31:12,240
Speaker 22: that canct connect and there's nothing like the sisters when

2805
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:14,000
Speaker 22: they connect. I'm gonna tell you that right now. But

2806
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 22: please join the organization. This is a time not to

2807
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:18,760
Speaker 22: play around in this country. And I mean that even

2808
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:21,880
Speaker 22: if you don't join our organization, get a firearm to

2809
02:31:22,040 --> 02:31:25,400
Speaker 22: protect yourself and I'll leave it at that, all right.

2810
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Phil, Thank you for sharing about information with us,

2811
02:31:27,959 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 1: and we'll keep touch with you as well and see

2812
02:31:29,800 --> 02:31:32,480
Speaker 1: what happens is because you know, things are changing this

2813
02:31:32,600 --> 02:31:36,160
Speaker 1: country so rapidly, and you're right, people need to protect themselves.

2814
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Part of your bug out back should be some sort

2815
02:31:38,520 --> 02:31:40,800
Speaker 1: of weapon. This is what Phil does with his group

2816
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:43,879
Speaker 1: as president of the National African American Gun Association.

2817
02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:46,560
Speaker 22: Thank you Phil, No, thank you brother honor to be

2818
02:31:46,600 --> 02:31:47,240
Speaker 22: here all right.

2819
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Family peace twelve away after the top of the art.

2820
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:53,680
Speaker 1: That's bringing talking about queens. One of our queens, economic queens.

2821
02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Sister doctor Julian Malvaux. Doctor Malvaux, welcome back to the program.

2822
02:32:00,040 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 14: Could call good to be with you always.

2823
02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 27: Uh.

2824
02:32:03,440 --> 02:32:05,640
Speaker 1: And you know we talked about guns that I just

2825
02:32:05,680 --> 02:32:07,400
Speaker 1: wanted with your thoughts on that. Do you think you

2826
02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:10,640
Speaker 1: think Phil is the oppression of the National African American

2827
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Gun Assession, She says, been a surge, especially since Uh.

2828
02:32:14,120 --> 02:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say use the word packing, but you know

2829
02:32:16,600 --> 02:32:19,040
Speaker 1: that's what it really is, that they're buying weapons and

2830
02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:20,720
Speaker 1: just to protect themselves. I just want to get your

2831
02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:22,360
Speaker 1: thoughts in that before we get into the economy.

2832
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:24,280
Speaker 14: Well, we do have to protect how tells this is

2833
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:29,480
Speaker 14: very dangerous time. I'll tell you, uh, very recently, maybe

2834
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:33,800
Speaker 14: now two months ago. I'm walking home and I see

2835
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 14: some white people in my yard. It's a tiny little yard,

2836
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 14: but that's the point.

2837
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:40,039
Speaker 16: It's mine.

2838
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:43,200
Speaker 14: I you know, I have a I have a very bad,

2839
02:32:43,320 --> 02:32:45,959
Speaker 14: notoriously bad temper, and I was about to go off

2840
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:47,720
Speaker 14: on her. But my therapist says, you know, when you

2841
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:51,280
Speaker 14: go off on people, you become a story. Why don't

2842
02:32:51,320 --> 02:32:54,800
Speaker 14: you got it back? Why I gat it back? I want.

2843
02:32:54,879 --> 02:32:56,400
Speaker 14: I walked up with them, but I said, Hi, I'm

2844
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 14: juing our novel.

2845
02:32:57,160 --> 02:32:57,760
Speaker 15: This is my home.

2846
02:32:58,160 --> 02:32:59,160
Speaker 17: Why are you in my yard?

2847
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:03,000
Speaker 14: The woman says, we're just looking, at which point I

2848
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:05,400
Speaker 14: lost it. I said, this is not a blucking museum.

2849
02:33:05,600 --> 02:33:06,280
Speaker 11: This is my home.

2850
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:09,880
Speaker 14: Your trespassing on private property. The white boy who was

2851
02:33:09,959 --> 02:33:14,039
Speaker 14: six six and bulky, she's a little buy thing. He says,

2852
02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:16,400
Speaker 14: what are you going to do about it? And call?

2853
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:17,400
Speaker 15: I tell you I.

2854
02:33:17,480 --> 02:33:20,880
Speaker 14: Prayed for a gun. I prayed for a gun. But

2855
02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:24,000
Speaker 14: you know I'm also not ignorant. So what I did

2856
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:26,720
Speaker 14: was I called nine one one and I said, I'm

2857
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:28,640
Speaker 14: a senior citizen and there's some people by yard. I

2858
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:31,400
Speaker 14: don't know what to do. I'm scared. I had a stroke,

2859
02:33:31,720 --> 02:33:34,640
Speaker 14: which I did a year or so ago, I said,

2860
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:37,240
Speaker 14: and my heart is palpitating. The police came right away,

2861
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:40,240
Speaker 14: took care of it. But I tell you, at that moment,

2862
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:43,320
Speaker 14: I mean white folks have gotten bold and bold enned

2863
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:48,360
Speaker 14: and do not trust, do not respect black people. As

2864
02:33:48,400 --> 02:33:51,600
Speaker 14: a dread Scott decision said black people have no rights.

2865
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:53,720
Speaker 14: But they said they have no rights that they're bound

2866
02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:57,879
Speaker 14: to respect. And that is the case. So from my perspective,

2867
02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:01,000
Speaker 14: I don't own a gun because I said, my temper

2868
02:34:01,080 --> 02:34:03,760
Speaker 14: is to that too bad that white would have been

2869
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:06,880
Speaker 14: shot the kingdom. Come ask me what was I gonna

2870
02:34:06,879 --> 02:34:11,120
Speaker 14: do without? But this is a time for us to

2871
02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:16,920
Speaker 14: be prepared to defend by whatever means necessary. And that

2872
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:20,400
Speaker 14: made me a gun, that means law enforcement, That made

2873
02:34:20,440 --> 02:34:22,920
Speaker 14: me informal justice. But they got to stop.

2874
02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:24,400
Speaker 17: And I agree with the bredit.

2875
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:26,640
Speaker 14: I'm gonna look for these what do you call them,

2876
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 14: just a quick warrior queens. Oh yeah, I'm gonna look

2877
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:30,360
Speaker 14: for them.

2878
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They're part of his group at the National

2879
02:34:34,760 --> 02:34:37,520
Speaker 1: African American Gun Association. But you know what, we've come

2880
02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:39,000
Speaker 1: up on a break and we come back though. Let's

2881
02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:42,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about the economy. Doctor vout malvote, because this

2882
02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:44,920
Speaker 1: government shutdown is going on and now they say it

2883
02:34:44,959 --> 02:34:47,280
Speaker 1: may go on until Thanksgiving. And now we're here that

2884
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the snap program of food stamps are they're going to

2885
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:52,280
Speaker 1: be impacted people who get those stamps, even though they

2886
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:55,120
Speaker 1: break this down for us because they think that's going

2887
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,240
Speaker 1: to impact up our community more than others. I just

2888
02:34:57,320 --> 02:35:01,280
Speaker 1: want to know, is Oh, absolutely, we We'll tell I'll

2889
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 1: tell you what. Let's take the breaking then and I'll

2890
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 1: let you break that down for us.

2891
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:07,200
Speaker 14: Okay, sounds good?

2892
02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:10,280
Speaker 1: All right, family, just checking in. Our guess is doctor

2893
02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:14,240
Speaker 1: Julian Malvaux. She's economist that mit ecomomists. When are smart

2894
02:35:14,320 --> 02:35:16,080
Speaker 1: sisters out there when it comes to the economy. You've

2895
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:18,959
Speaker 1: seen her on TV debating with the other the talking heads.

2896
02:35:19,160 --> 02:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Well she's doing it for us right now and you

2897
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:22,560
Speaker 1: can speak to her at eight hundred and four or

2898
02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:25,440
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we take your

2899
02:35:25,440 --> 02:35:28,400
Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks to staying

2900
02:35:28,440 --> 02:35:30,440
Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday Mornder. That guest that doctor

2901
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Julian Malvaux. Doctor Malvaux is an economist. As I mentioned,

2902
02:35:33,560 --> 02:35:37,360
Speaker 1: she was MIT educated economists at that and we're talking

2903
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:40,760
Speaker 1: about the government shutdown and Dr Malvaux, you're saying that

2904
02:35:40,840 --> 02:35:44,040
Speaker 1: it disproportionately impacts the black community. Can you explain that

2905
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:44,400
Speaker 1: for us?

2906
02:35:45,200 --> 02:35:45,360
Speaker 7: Oh?

2907
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:48,480
Speaker 14: Absolutely, First of all, people who are toward the bottom

2908
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:52,199
Speaker 14: of the income distribution more proportionally affected, and that would

2909
02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 14: be the Black community. Our average family income is about

2910
02:35:56,640 --> 02:36:02,200
Speaker 14: thirty percent less than that for our majority trends. So

2911
02:36:02,520 --> 02:36:04,959
Speaker 14: Number one, if you're toward the bottom of the income distribution,

2912
02:36:05,320 --> 02:36:07,640
Speaker 14: you're hit by this. How are you hit? As you

2913
02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:10,960
Speaker 14: mentioned earlier, as of November first, there will be no

2914
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:16,000
Speaker 14: snaps a supplemental nutrition assistance program off so known as

2915
02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:19,480
Speaker 14: food stamps. As of November first, depth is being cut.

2916
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:23,240
Speaker 14: We know that part of this battle between the Democrats

2917
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:27,519
Speaker 14: and Republicans is about health insurance. Everybody will get unnoticed

2918
02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:31,080
Speaker 14: sometimes if you didn't get it by October fifteenth, you'll

2919
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,760
Speaker 14: certainly get it by November fifteen. Telling you what your

2920
02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:37,840
Speaker 14: premium will be. Your premium will be higher there was

2921
02:36:37,959 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 14: last year. But the question is how much higher. The

2922
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:44,959
Speaker 14: Affable Affordable Care Act subsidies which made it a bit

2923
02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:49,440
Speaker 14: of easier on people, those have expired, and the Democrats

2924
02:36:49,480 --> 02:36:53,200
Speaker 14: are hanging out to try to get those subsidies increased

2925
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:57,000
Speaker 14: or continued, rather not increased, but continued. So that's number two,

2926
02:36:57,400 --> 02:37:01,120
Speaker 14: and then number three of African American people because of

2927
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:04,480
Speaker 14: the discrimination that is rife in the labor market. African

2928
02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 14: American people are more likely to work for the government

2929
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:10,320
Speaker 14: than for the private sector. So when government shuts down,

2930
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:12,880
Speaker 14: a lot of black folks are shut down. So if

2931
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 14: you think about a car we're looking at, we're about

2932
02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:19,320
Speaker 14: thirteen percent of the overall population. We're about nineteen percent

2933
02:37:19,400 --> 02:37:23,800
Speaker 14: of government employees. So we're being cut. Now that president

2934
02:37:24,160 --> 02:37:28,360
Speaker 14: would like to save some agencies. They want to pay

2935
02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:31,240
Speaker 14: the military. I don't mind the military being paid. I

2936
02:37:31,360 --> 02:37:33,520
Speaker 14: want everybody to be paid. And that's what Congress has

2937
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:37,680
Speaker 14: been saying. So we are disproportionately hit. We have fewer

2938
02:37:37,720 --> 02:37:42,040
Speaker 14: resources to fight back, we have fewer savings. And so,

2939
02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:44,320
Speaker 14: as you said earlier when you were talking to your

2940
02:37:44,360 --> 02:37:49,080
Speaker 14: other guests, what we have to look at is the

2941
02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:51,840
Speaker 14: fact that this is hitting black people from bottom to

2942
02:37:52,040 --> 02:37:54,760
Speaker 14: the top. If you look at Prince George's County, which

2943
02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:58,039
Speaker 14: is the wealthiest African American county in the United States,

2944
02:37:58,840 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 14: a disproportionate number number of those brothers and sisters or

2945
02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:09,080
Speaker 14: what government employees, government employees, and so what these are

2946
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:11,760
Speaker 14: folks who, if they were living, pay to pay paycheck

2947
02:38:11,840 --> 02:38:14,360
Speaker 14: to paycheck, which we don't advise but many do. For

2948
02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:18,039
Speaker 14: any number of reasons. You may have trouble making your mortgage,

2949
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:19,960
Speaker 14: and then maybe not this month or next month the

2950
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:23,120
Speaker 14: month after that, if these folks don't come to sense.

2951
02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:25,440
Speaker 14: The other thing that's happened, of course, is that this

2952
02:38:25,600 --> 02:38:29,160
Speaker 14: president has said he doesn't want to in the past

2953
02:38:29,920 --> 02:38:34,200
Speaker 14: furloughed employees to get paid back pay. He doesn't want

2954
02:38:34,240 --> 02:38:36,400
Speaker 14: to give them back pay. And so this is not

2955
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:40,120
Speaker 14: just a temporary hit, which is bad enough, but it

2956
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:43,040
Speaker 14: may be a permanent hit for some. In addition to

2957
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:46,400
Speaker 14: the fact that we're more likely called to work for

2958
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:49,920
Speaker 14: government contractors, in other words, not for the government directly

2959
02:38:50,360 --> 02:38:53,600
Speaker 14: or for government contractors. Now those folks will not get

2960
02:38:53,680 --> 02:38:56,960
Speaker 14: back paid by law, they won't necessarily get it. And

2961
02:38:57,160 --> 02:39:01,200
Speaker 14: so my big question this is a rotting questions. Did

2962
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:05,040
Speaker 14: those people tore down East Wing get paid and did

2963
02:39:05,080 --> 02:39:10,280
Speaker 14: they get paid before the air traffic controllers, the student

2964
02:39:10,360 --> 02:39:12,680
Speaker 14: loan officers and all those get paid? Just a question,

2965
02:39:13,160 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 14: but clearly this set shut down.

2966
02:39:15,320 --> 02:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Also people too, did Dr Malveaux, the ICE.

2967
02:39:18,360 --> 02:39:23,760
Speaker 14: People Ice, ICE is gonna get paid. Air traffic controllers

2968
02:39:23,800 --> 02:39:25,080
Speaker 14: will not get paid, but Ice will.

2969
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:28,240
Speaker 1: You can't get on all government workers.

2970
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:32,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, but that the Congress and the president have prioritized

2971
02:39:32,520 --> 02:39:36,760
Speaker 14: some government workers over others. So usually when you have

2972
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:40,160
Speaker 14: a shutdown, everybody is shut down. Now he said, well, yeah,

2973
02:39:40,200 --> 02:39:41,920
Speaker 14: but we want to pay the military. Yeah, well we

2974
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,400
Speaker 14: want to pay ice. So they're going through in cherry picking,

2975
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:45,880
Speaker 14: which is what he said he was going to do.

2976
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:50,040
Speaker 14: He said he was going to cut payments on democratic

2977
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:54,240
Speaker 14: leaning agencies. Well, I don't know what democratic leaning agencies are.

2978
02:39:54,760 --> 02:39:57,880
Speaker 14: There is no partisan tests for whether you get a

2979
02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:00,560
Speaker 14: government job. And I'll tell you what he gone after.

2980
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:04,160
Speaker 14: He's gone after the arts, he's gone after education. But

2981
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:08,280
Speaker 14: you know, interestingly, also he's gone after the people who

2982
02:40:08,720 --> 02:40:13,080
Speaker 14: basically supervise our nuclear arms, which is the craziest thing

2983
02:40:13,160 --> 02:40:15,240
Speaker 14: I've ever heard. Though don't let me ever say it's

2984
02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:17,480
Speaker 14: the craziest thing I've ever heard, because when this president

2985
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:21,280
Speaker 14: is involved, there's no limit on the amount of crazy

2986
02:40:21,320 --> 02:40:21,640
Speaker 14: you'll here.

2987
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:26,120
Speaker 1: And I got to ask you this, his uh, Donald

2988
02:40:26,160 --> 02:40:28,720
Speaker 1: Trump's MO is, you know, create the problem and then

2989
02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:30,920
Speaker 1: come back and solve the problem. I'm the only one

2990
02:40:30,920 --> 02:40:33,120
Speaker 1: who could solve the problem when I created probably some

2991
02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:35,240
Speaker 1: sort of syops move. Do you think this is what's

2992
02:40:35,280 --> 02:40:36,760
Speaker 1: going to happen at some point He's going to come

2993
02:40:36,760 --> 02:40:38,720
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I solve them. I got them together,

2994
02:40:38,760 --> 02:40:40,640
Speaker 1: and only I could do it. Do you think that

2995
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:42,360
Speaker 1: this is what is how this is going to end.

2996
02:40:43,200 --> 02:40:45,640
Speaker 14: Well, that's his part, that's his pattern. As he said,

2997
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:50,240
Speaker 14: I'm not sure how it's gonna end because the Republems

2998
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:53,760
Speaker 14: are they don't they won't talk until the shutdown is over,

2999
02:40:54,200 --> 02:40:57,879
Speaker 14: and the Dems won't talk until the there's a conversation

3000
02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:01,520
Speaker 14: about healthcare. So we seem to be at an impasse.

3001
02:41:02,200 --> 02:41:04,600
Speaker 14: And of course, now you know, he'd go over the

3002
02:41:04,600 --> 02:41:07,000
Speaker 14: Middle Eastern solve problems, but he can't solve him right here,

3003
02:41:07,240 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 14: and that's because he does not want to solve them. Mike,

3004
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:17,640
Speaker 14: Little Mike Johnson sent Congress home and former shutdowns even

3005
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:20,720
Speaker 14: though there was a shutdown. You know, Congress is still

3006
02:41:20,720 --> 02:41:24,400
Speaker 14: getting paid. Okay, Congress is still getting paid and in

3007
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:27,880
Speaker 14: former shutdowns, and of course mister Trump presided over the

3008
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:36,600
Speaker 14: longest one in twenty nineteen. So in for people were talking,

3009
02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 14: people were talking of the IRO, people were making compromises,

3010
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:42,560
Speaker 14: people were doing what they're supposed to do as legislators.

3011
02:41:42,920 --> 02:41:45,840
Speaker 14: This time around, however, Little Mike has a tantrum and

3012
02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:49,960
Speaker 14: sends the Congress poem to do district works, which just

3013
02:41:50,120 --> 02:41:52,560
Speaker 14: means go on and chill. We'll they'll be meeting with constituents.

3014
02:41:52,560 --> 02:41:55,119
Speaker 14: I'm not saying that they're doing nothing. But the Democrats

3015
02:41:55,160 --> 02:41:57,920
Speaker 14: are here. But many of the Democrats are here. I've

3016
02:41:57,920 --> 02:41:59,960
Speaker 14: spoken to several of them. They're here, they're trying to

3017
02:42:00,120 --> 02:42:00,600
Speaker 14: come up with a.

3018
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Solution, and everybody's trying to figure out a solution too.

3019
02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:07,480
Speaker 1: When it comes to the economy of twenty six minutes

3020
02:42:07,520 --> 02:42:09,480
Speaker 1: after the top of the hour with doctor Julian Malveaux,

3021
02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Doctor Malvaux, prices are going up. Our inflation is coming back,

3022
02:42:14,120 --> 02:42:17,199
Speaker 1: but we're not We're still on sure of the exact

3023
02:42:17,360 --> 02:42:20,320
Speaker 1: numbers because the government has been shut down. What we'll

3024
02:42:20,320 --> 02:42:22,400
Speaker 1: all we know that when we go to the grocery store,

3025
02:42:22,840 --> 02:42:25,840
Speaker 1: the prices have been increased. A gas price is also

3026
02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:29,120
Speaker 1: going up as well. Is there anything that we can do?

3027
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:29,800
Speaker 6: Uh?

3028
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:32,959
Speaker 1: You know, for the folks who celebrate Thanksgiving, because you're

3029
02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:34,800
Speaker 1: going to pay more for good, should you they buy

3030
02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:38,600
Speaker 1: start thinking about Thanksgiving? To those who celebrate Quaji and Christmas,

3031
02:42:38,600 --> 02:42:41,400
Speaker 1: should they think about buying those those products or gifts

3032
02:42:41,520 --> 02:42:45,600
Speaker 1: now or wait or gambling cases in case they think

3033
02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:46,800
Speaker 1: the price is going to decline.

3034
02:42:48,120 --> 02:42:51,000
Speaker 14: Well, first of all, you can't. The price of food

3035
02:42:51,080 --> 02:42:54,480
Speaker 14: is a price of food. You basically have a relatively

3036
02:42:54,560 --> 02:42:58,640
Speaker 14: inelastic demand curve for the price of food, which means somebody,

3037
02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:01,000
Speaker 14: Mama them going to buy a turkey. Whether the turkey

3038
02:43:01,040 --> 02:43:04,760
Speaker 14: costs two dollars a two hundred dollars, Well, they might

3039
02:43:04,840 --> 02:43:08,600
Speaker 14: compromise with the chickens. But I mean the people will

3040
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:11,879
Speaker 14: buy food. People must eat, and they will buy food.

3041
02:43:12,520 --> 02:43:15,520
Speaker 14: You don't have to buy toys. I think that this

3042
02:43:15,680 --> 02:43:18,600
Speaker 14: is a good time for us to think about consumer

3043
02:43:18,680 --> 02:43:21,440
Speaker 14: rism in our community. I think it's a great time

3044
02:43:21,560 --> 02:43:25,160
Speaker 14: for us to dial it back a little bit. I mean,

3045
02:43:25,200 --> 02:43:28,480
Speaker 14: we live in a consumer culture, and that consumer culture

3046
02:43:28,640 --> 02:43:32,760
Speaker 14: is feeding predatory capitalism. So instead of ten toys under

3047
02:43:32,760 --> 02:43:36,840
Speaker 14: the tree, rull it back and have conversation with your

3048
02:43:36,879 --> 02:43:40,360
Speaker 14: young people about why they're not getting everything they want

3049
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:44,440
Speaker 14: because black people never get everything they want in a

3050
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:48,240
Speaker 14: racist predatory capitalism is say, but I wouldn't go on

3051
02:43:48,440 --> 02:43:52,240
Speaker 14: stocking up for stuff, althoughf teriffs will make a difference.

3052
02:43:52,520 --> 02:43:56,160
Speaker 14: A lot of the junk Ariva called Riva. Martin called

3053
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:58,280
Speaker 14: me other. She said, why are you calling people's toys junk?

3054
02:43:58,320 --> 02:44:01,800
Speaker 14: I'm like, it's just a habit. But the bove these

3055
02:44:01,840 --> 02:44:05,879
Speaker 14: little trap keys. You know, I have two nephews, the gods,

3056
02:44:06,959 --> 02:44:08,680
Speaker 14: and I traveled a little less that I used to,

3057
02:44:08,800 --> 02:44:10,960
Speaker 14: but I used to read. When these kids were teenage,

3058
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:13,320
Speaker 14: they said to me, what did you bring me back?

3059
02:44:14,560 --> 02:44:18,040
Speaker 14: And I found you know, you love your kids, you

3060
02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:21,720
Speaker 14: want to hook them up, you know, toy airplanes. And

3061
02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:24,039
Speaker 14: now at some point I brought me back. Y'all will

3062
02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:26,280
Speaker 14: need all this since all this classic nonsense that was

3063
02:44:26,360 --> 02:44:29,080
Speaker 14: made in China. Now that's easier said than don them.

3064
02:44:29,120 --> 02:44:31,520
Speaker 14: Like I said, we love our kids, but should you

3065
02:44:31,600 --> 02:44:33,800
Speaker 14: go out and buy up everything. No, you should have

3066
02:44:33,959 --> 02:44:36,560
Speaker 14: a budget for the holiday and do your best to

3067
02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:40,080
Speaker 14: stick to your budget and that. Yet I'm not saying

3068
02:44:40,160 --> 02:44:40,840
Speaker 14: don't give gifts.

3069
02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:41,800
Speaker 22: I like them.

3070
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:43,480
Speaker 14: I'll give you my address. You can send me suf

3071
02:44:43,879 --> 02:44:48,760
Speaker 14: but not really. But but I'm saying, this is a

3072
02:44:48,840 --> 02:44:51,360
Speaker 14: time for us to be economically, to be fiscally prudent

3073
02:44:51,760 --> 02:44:52,840
Speaker 14: in our personal lives.

3074
02:44:54,080 --> 02:44:57,440
Speaker 1: We don't need At thirty minutes at that top down,

3075
02:44:57,720 --> 02:45:00,760
Speaker 1: you know that there's been a suggestion of not a boycott,

3076
02:45:00,800 --> 02:45:02,760
Speaker 1: but it's selected buying a black group of starting this.

3077
02:45:02,800 --> 02:45:04,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've seen this. They're saying

3078
02:45:05,160 --> 02:45:07,560
Speaker 1: from Black Friday that the weekend of Black Friday, we

3079
02:45:07,600 --> 02:45:11,800
Speaker 1: should refrain from going shopping over if we're doing business

3080
02:45:11,879 --> 02:45:14,360
Speaker 1: and do business with ourselves. Is this something that you

3081
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:17,119
Speaker 1: would support is going to take place?

3082
02:45:17,120 --> 02:45:19,880
Speaker 14: Absolutely? You know you want a w O L and

3083
02:45:20,080 --> 02:45:22,280
Speaker 14: you know all the the WL family and you will

3084
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:24,640
Speaker 14: play these you play stuff and say we could port

3085
02:45:24,680 --> 02:45:28,400
Speaker 14: black business, We'll do it. You don't have it again.

3086
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:36,520
Speaker 14: I think about the creator of our poor mothers and fathers,

3087
02:45:37,360 --> 02:45:39,920
Speaker 14: who had far more limited means than many of us do,

3088
02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:45,400
Speaker 14: so they had to be created. I remember years my

3089
02:45:45,560 --> 02:45:47,680
Speaker 14: parents were divorced and so we didn't have a whole

3090
02:45:47,680 --> 02:45:50,480
Speaker 14: lot of money. My dad was always generous because that

3091
02:45:50,640 --> 02:45:51,160
Speaker 14: was his way of.

3092
02:45:51,200 --> 02:45:52,080
Speaker 29: Showing my mom up.

3093
02:45:52,400 --> 02:45:54,360
Speaker 14: But my mom was the one who went catch a

3094
02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:57,280
Speaker 14: big sure of five kids got whatever whatever whatever that

3095
02:45:57,440 --> 02:46:00,320
Speaker 14: was even one year that she and offended her bited

3096
02:46:00,400 --> 02:46:03,360
Speaker 14: us sweaters and I kept that. I kept that sweater

3097
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:06,600
Speaker 14: Carl until I was an adult, just because of all

3098
02:46:06,680 --> 02:46:09,080
Speaker 14: the love that went into it. But by im said,

3099
02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:10,760
Speaker 14: you're not gonna get a lot of toys from me,

3100
02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:15,560
Speaker 14: but we have these beautiful sweaters that we'll all enjoyed.

3101
02:46:15,879 --> 02:46:18,360
Speaker 14: But we are asking us to go back to go

3102
02:46:18,520 --> 02:46:20,720
Speaker 14: back to where we are are this morning in my

3103
02:46:20,800 --> 02:46:24,280
Speaker 14: prayer call we plant go give you that old time religion.

3104
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:26,840
Speaker 14: And I'm telling uthers of black people we might need

3105
02:46:26,879 --> 02:46:30,560
Speaker 14: some old high economics too, because we do not need

3106
02:46:30,680 --> 02:46:34,840
Speaker 14: to basically purchase everything that's put in front of us

3107
02:46:35,240 --> 02:46:39,120
Speaker 14: and in the Internet age, once you buy something, the

3108
02:46:39,200 --> 02:46:41,480
Speaker 14: people the suburb writing you, you avatie you over here,

3109
02:46:42,080 --> 02:46:45,680
Speaker 14: your computer? You know you bought something right?

3110
02:46:46,200 --> 02:46:46,640
Speaker 11: You need this?

3111
02:46:46,879 --> 02:46:47,240
Speaker 24: You need this?

3112
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:50,800
Speaker 14: What's the We need to distinguish between needs and wants.

3113
02:46:51,320 --> 02:46:53,880
Speaker 14: And I love the idea of a boycott, or a

3114
02:46:53,959 --> 02:46:56,480
Speaker 14: selective buying as we like to call it. I love

3115
02:46:56,520 --> 02:46:59,600
Speaker 14: the idea of us thinking about you know, consumer spending

3116
02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:03,880
Speaker 14: car or all fueled seventy five percent for the economy.

3117
02:47:04,640 --> 02:47:10,640
Speaker 14: That's why after September eleventh, President been President Bush, our

3118
02:47:10,840 --> 02:47:12,520
Speaker 14: reporter Askedi what should we do? And he said, go

3119
02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:17,880
Speaker 14: shopping because our spending fueled the economy. So wouldn't it

3120
02:47:17,959 --> 02:47:20,800
Speaker 14: be effective for us to just stop spending. It'll hurt,

3121
02:47:21,080 --> 02:47:23,600
Speaker 14: it'll hurt, but guess what. We're also making a point

3122
02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:27,840
Speaker 14: back in the in nineteen thirties, they had a campaign

3123
02:47:27,920 --> 02:47:30,640
Speaker 14: called don't buy where you can't work, and that was

3124
02:47:30,680 --> 02:47:35,720
Speaker 14: when stores were not hiring black people. Don't buy where

3125
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:39,120
Speaker 14: you can't work, and so we think when you buy

3126
02:47:39,400 --> 02:47:45,600
Speaker 14: from certain companies, you're funding your own oppression, and so

3127
02:47:45,720 --> 02:47:46,640
Speaker 14: we need to think about that.

3128
02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of my people don't understand that. So I

3129
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,240
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that with us. Doctor Malvaux twenty

3130
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:55,440
Speaker 1: eight minutes away from the top day Sounder's checking in

3131
02:47:55,560 --> 02:47:58,480
Speaker 1: from Baltimore Online too, Grand Rising, Sandra, you're on with

3132
02:47:58,520 --> 02:48:00,199
Speaker 1: doctor Julian and Malvaux.

3133
02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:04,400
Speaker 30: Ping Riseing car grand Risey, got the Railbow.

3134
02:48:04,200 --> 02:48:04,760
Speaker 13: Got the Railva.

3135
02:48:04,959 --> 02:48:05,440
Speaker 7: I love you.

3136
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:08,240
Speaker 30: I watch you on everything you come on on TV

3137
02:48:08,440 --> 02:48:11,600
Speaker 30: anytime I get doctor revol I am sure Brad you

3138
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:15,080
Speaker 30: didn't have a gun because you wouldn't be here this morning.

3139
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:18,400
Speaker 30: Thank God, wouldn't have a gun because I know what

3140
02:48:18,560 --> 02:48:20,120
Speaker 30: you would have did with them two on.

3141
02:48:20,280 --> 02:48:24,240
Speaker 15: Your private property. So thank your art a thousand times

3142
02:48:24,280 --> 02:48:25,160
Speaker 15: because we need you.

3143
02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:28,560
Speaker 14: Okay, thank you appreciate that.

3144
02:48:30,240 --> 02:48:32,680
Speaker 30: Think about I want to ask you a question, what

3145
02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:35,000
Speaker 30: do you think about the checks that Donald Trump was

3146
02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:36,840
Speaker 30: giving out this h know him.

3147
02:48:36,920 --> 02:48:38,120
Speaker 7: The first is that a.

3148
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:41,039
Speaker 30: Scam or is this career, is it because he's thinking

3149
02:48:41,080 --> 02:48:45,880
Speaker 30: about taking Social Security and privatizing. I'll listen and hey

3150
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:46,360
Speaker 30: gonna do it.

3151
02:48:46,520 --> 02:48:49,320
Speaker 14: I love you and keep it going. Thank you. I

3152
02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:52,760
Speaker 14: appreciate that he's not doing anything for Social Security anytime,

3153
02:48:52,840 --> 02:48:53,720
Speaker 14: so he's gonna try to.

3154
02:48:53,879 --> 02:48:54,440
Speaker 16: But he isn't it.

3155
02:48:55,120 --> 02:48:57,879
Speaker 14: He can do his people his means. Keep talking about

3156
02:48:58,040 --> 02:49:00,480
Speaker 14: he's gonna give us all the tariff checks that has

3157
02:49:00,520 --> 02:49:02,480
Speaker 14: to be approved by Congress, and that has not been

3158
02:49:02,560 --> 02:49:02,960
Speaker 14: done either.

3159
02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:06,720
Speaker 29: This man's job is obsuscation.

3160
02:49:07,240 --> 02:49:10,879
Speaker 14: He just wants to keep people confused unbalanced. So don't

3161
02:49:10,920 --> 02:49:15,039
Speaker 14: believe the hype. Do not believe the hype, and keep

3162
02:49:15,120 --> 02:49:16,920
Speaker 14: it on and keep it, keep it going, and keep

3163
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:18,600
Speaker 14: be in prayer because like I said, I don't have

3164
02:49:18,680 --> 02:49:20,680
Speaker 14: a dumbit. If I did, there'll be a whole lot

3165
02:49:20,720 --> 02:49:23,480
Speaker 14: of melon of deficient people who would have met their maker.

3166
02:49:25,760 --> 02:49:28,480
Speaker 1: Ran Rising Family twenty six away from the top there

3167
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:32,800
Speaker 1: with the economist doctor Julian Malveaux. Dr Malvaux just opposed

3168
02:49:32,840 --> 02:49:36,000
Speaker 1: that these customs we're facing, all the tax credits that

3169
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:40,640
Speaker 1: all these corporations, these major corporations have received since the

3170
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:44,240
Speaker 1: Trump administration. This trickle down theory has the trickle down

3171
02:49:44,280 --> 02:49:45,199
Speaker 1: fairy ever worked.

3172
02:49:46,160 --> 02:49:47,080
Speaker 15: No, it doesn't work.

3173
02:49:47,480 --> 02:49:51,040
Speaker 14: No, trickle down theory is an excuse for government to

3174
02:49:51,160 --> 02:49:55,440
Speaker 14: give rich people more money. The theory is, if let's

3175
02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:59,959
Speaker 14: say this's just called it ex corporation has more money,

3176
02:50:00,879 --> 02:50:03,920
Speaker 14: they'll hire more people, and that's good for the economists.

3177
02:50:04,160 --> 02:50:08,320
Speaker 14: But what we saw in the wake of two thousand

3178
02:50:08,320 --> 02:50:11,320
Speaker 14: and eight recessions they got credits, but they didn't hire

3179
02:50:11,360 --> 02:50:11,720
Speaker 14: more people.

3180
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:12,560
Speaker 13: They kept the money.

3181
02:50:13,000 --> 02:50:15,320
Speaker 14: Not only they keep the money, but the heightened credit

3182
02:50:15,400 --> 02:50:18,960
Speaker 14: requirements making it more difficult for small and media businesses

3183
02:50:19,080 --> 02:50:22,800
Speaker 14: to get loans. So that's nonsense that that trickles down

3184
02:50:22,920 --> 02:50:27,840
Speaker 14: simply doesn't work. I could keep saying that or say

3185
02:50:27,879 --> 02:50:30,920
Speaker 14: it in different ways, but just trust their bodings. It

3186
02:50:31,080 --> 02:50:35,080
Speaker 14: is a scam. But this entire Trumble administration is a scam.

3187
02:50:35,360 --> 02:50:37,879
Speaker 14: As we see. I was still trying to figure out

3188
02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:41,200
Speaker 14: where did the money come from two hundred million or

3189
02:50:41,240 --> 02:50:43,840
Speaker 14: three hundred million to demolish to eat thing. Now they

3190
02:50:43,879 --> 02:50:49,040
Speaker 14: say that these corporations have contributed, but I bet you

3191
02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:53,400
Speaker 14: the degalo was paid for while air traffic controllers are

3192
02:50:53,440 --> 02:50:54,080
Speaker 14: not being paid.

3193
02:50:56,480 --> 02:50:59,760
Speaker 1: Twenty six away from the toffee, Tony's checking in from Seattle.

3194
02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:02,640
Speaker 1: He's online too, Grand rising Tony, are on with doctor

3195
02:51:02,720 --> 02:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Julian Malvaux.

3196
02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:07,800
Speaker 31: Oh, yes, grand razing to you both. I wonder, as

3197
02:51:08,320 --> 02:51:13,640
Speaker 31: Dtor malveow, are the stores that's still are not supporting

3198
02:51:13,760 --> 02:51:19,000
Speaker 31: DEEI Are they being hit the hardest with this shut down?

3199
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:23,279
Speaker 14: Are the stores being hit the hardest?

3200
02:51:23,720 --> 02:51:27,680
Speaker 31: Yeah? Yeah, the stores and the companies that don't promote

3201
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:28,240
Speaker 31: the DEI.

3202
02:51:29,480 --> 02:51:31,920
Speaker 14: No, In fact, those souls are the driving. They don't

3203
02:51:31,959 --> 02:51:36,320
Speaker 14: want This administration that has attacked DEI doesn't want it.

3204
02:51:37,000 --> 02:51:39,959
Speaker 14: I don't think the issue is what consumers are going

3205
02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:43,200
Speaker 14: to do. I want to give a profound debt of

3206
02:51:43,240 --> 02:51:47,560
Speaker 14: gratitude to Reverend Jamal Bryant for the toy target voiccott

3207
02:51:47,920 --> 02:51:49,720
Speaker 14: and we need a lot more of that. But there's

3208
02:51:49,760 --> 02:51:54,800
Speaker 14: no evidence that, quite frankly, anybody is being cut, is

3209
02:51:54,879 --> 02:51:58,600
Speaker 14: being hurt by their resistance to DEI, and that's unfortunate.

3210
02:51:59,040 --> 02:52:01,640
Speaker 14: Those companies that do support d I we need to

3211
02:52:01,800 --> 02:52:02,879
Speaker 14: we need to support them.

3212
02:52:03,280 --> 02:52:07,480
Speaker 25: There are some thanks, alright, thank you, Tony.

3213
02:52:07,959 --> 02:52:10,600
Speaker 1: All right, Dr Mavau stay with us. We step aside

3214
02:52:10,640 --> 02:52:11,880
Speaker 1: for a few months. I'll let you come back. Some

3215
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:14,480
Speaker 1: more folks want to talk to you, and also more

3216
02:52:14,480 --> 02:52:16,920
Speaker 1: about the economy. Family, what are your thoughts about the economy?

3217
02:52:17,080 --> 02:52:19,240
Speaker 1: Are you concerned? Reach out to us at eight hundred

3218
02:52:19,280 --> 02:52:22,360
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. I'll take

3219
02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:25,160
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for

3220
02:52:25,240 --> 02:52:28,120
Speaker 1: rolling with us on this Wednesday, actually Tuesday morning. I'm

3221
02:52:28,120 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 1: way ahead of myself. Before we go back to Dr Malfold, though,

3222
02:52:30,959 --> 02:52:33,160
Speaker 1: let me just get an update on that monster storm

3223
02:52:33,280 --> 02:52:37,240
Speaker 1: that's ravaging about to ravage Jamaica. It says it's going

3224
02:52:37,320 --> 02:52:39,560
Speaker 1: to be Melissa, that's the name it's it's be a

3225
02:52:39,600 --> 02:52:42,520
Speaker 1: category five and it's the winds are gusting of two

3226
02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:45,000
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one miles per hour. It's never gusted

3227
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:47,880
Speaker 1: like that before, never that the winds like that. But anyways,

3228
02:52:48,040 --> 02:52:53,040
Speaker 1: it's taking a small crawl crawl if you will, cross Jamaica.

3229
02:52:53,440 --> 02:52:55,360
Speaker 1: So it's moving like seven miles per hour. So it's

3230
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:57,240
Speaker 1: going real sour. It's good dunk a lot of water

3231
02:52:57,280 --> 02:53:00,440
Speaker 1: and wind in Jamaica. And when he's finished ravage in

3232
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:03,560
Speaker 1: jamaica's gonna get Cuba. As we our guess that Gabriela

3233
02:53:04,280 --> 02:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Cuban sister before was on early this morning, so that's

3234
02:53:07,040 --> 02:53:09,720
Speaker 1: where most of the Afro Cubans live in the southern

3235
02:53:09,800 --> 02:53:12,920
Speaker 1: eastern southern eastern section of Cuba, so they're going to

3236
02:53:12,959 --> 02:53:16,080
Speaker 1: be impacted too, So keep an eye on that because

3237
02:53:16,080 --> 02:53:17,800
Speaker 1: this is going to be the major story of the

3238
02:53:17,920 --> 02:53:20,400
Speaker 1: news today and it's going to make a landfall later

3239
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:24,240
Speaker 1: this morning or early this afternoon in Jamaica. But I

3240
02:53:24,320 --> 02:53:25,840
Speaker 1: know we got some listeners down there as well, and

3241
02:53:25,959 --> 02:53:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't ben people of vacation there as well, so

3242
02:53:28,560 --> 02:53:30,760
Speaker 1: tell us that you won't know the country when after

3243
02:53:31,000 --> 02:53:34,760
Speaker 1: Melissa has finished with their work today. So anyway, family,

3244
02:53:34,879 --> 02:53:36,520
Speaker 1: just keep them in your prayers as we move on

3245
02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:38,959
Speaker 1: throughout the day. Here at seventeen away from the top,

3246
02:53:39,040 --> 02:53:42,800
Speaker 1: they are doctor Malvaux. We talked about the elections next

3247
02:53:42,879 --> 02:53:45,040
Speaker 1: week and somebody wanted to I think it was Kevin

3248
02:53:45,080 --> 02:53:47,880
Speaker 1: to asked a description of what is a democratic socialist?

3249
02:53:48,280 --> 02:53:51,039
Speaker 1: As you know, Zaron Mundani's leading in the race even

3250
02:53:51,040 --> 02:53:53,800
Speaker 1: though the race is tightening, so maybe I told him

3251
02:53:53,840 --> 02:53:55,360
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, so maybe you can help us out

3252
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:56,720
Speaker 1: what is a democratic socialist.

3253
02:53:57,879 --> 02:54:01,800
Speaker 14: Well, socialism, as you know, is about collective and democratic

3254
02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:05,400
Speaker 14: socialism is a collective. You know, communism is a collective

3255
02:54:05,440 --> 02:54:10,240
Speaker 14: as well, but democratic socialism has the people's voices involved

3256
02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:14,360
Speaker 14: in the distribution of the common good.

3257
02:54:14,840 --> 02:54:17,199
Speaker 7: In other words, who gets the tax dollars?

3258
02:54:17,440 --> 02:54:19,640
Speaker 14: Who gets this? Now, you know, I used to call

3259
02:54:19,720 --> 02:54:22,560
Speaker 14: myself a democratic socialist Cornell West and I and a

3260
02:54:22,600 --> 02:54:24,200
Speaker 14: whole bunch of others of us were a part of

3261
02:54:25,120 --> 02:54:29,439
Speaker 14: Democratic Socialists of America. Because you're looking at public progressive

3262
02:54:29,480 --> 02:54:33,720
Speaker 14: public policy. DSA didn't ship with me or I didn't

3263
02:54:33,760 --> 02:54:38,080
Speaker 14: stick with DSA primarily because my story, that's not my

3264
02:54:38,160 --> 02:54:42,160
Speaker 14: whole story. But my take was that in attempt to

3265
02:54:42,240 --> 02:54:46,000
Speaker 14: get consensus, people got stuck. I'll never forget a meeting

3266
02:54:46,200 --> 02:54:49,520
Speaker 14: that started at eight pm and lasted into one am

3267
02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:54,360
Speaker 14: because people could not agree, and the consensus was everybody

3268
02:54:54,440 --> 02:54:56,880
Speaker 14: had to agree or you could move forward. And that's

3269
02:54:56,959 --> 02:55:01,400
Speaker 14: just strangulation. So I'm not quite sure technically what a

3270
02:55:01,480 --> 02:55:05,280
Speaker 14: democratic social music, but basically it preserves the right of

3271
02:55:05,920 --> 02:55:11,119
Speaker 14: the possibility of democracy but also the possibility of socialism

3272
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:14,920
Speaker 14: in other words, shared resources. That's what socialism at the

3273
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:17,280
Speaker 14: end of the day is this shared resources. And so

3274
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:18,520
Speaker 14: that's what we're dealing.

3275
02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:22,520
Speaker 1: With there and with what the with the economy is.

3276
02:55:22,600 --> 02:55:24,520
Speaker 1: And Donald Trumper said of the economy of the country

3277
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:26,800
Speaker 1: now is that a good movie. Is that something that

3278
02:55:26,879 --> 02:55:28,480
Speaker 1: you think people should embrace.

3279
02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:31,040
Speaker 14: People should at least look into it. Some of the

3280
02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:34,959
Speaker 14: things that Monami is talking about are good things. As

3281
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:41,000
Speaker 14: an example, free public transportation that would lighten the load

3282
02:55:41,160 --> 02:55:44,680
Speaker 14: on our environment, that would make a whole lot of

3283
02:55:44,760 --> 02:55:48,119
Speaker 14: things more accessible for a whole lot of people. Although

3284
02:55:48,520 --> 02:55:50,879
Speaker 14: you know, places like New York school kids can drive

3285
02:55:50,959 --> 02:55:53,720
Speaker 14: the bus free. I think you at the Lace used

3286
02:55:53,720 --> 02:55:57,000
Speaker 14: to be able to. But I hear a lot of

3287
02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:00,160
Speaker 14: to you say, well, ken wealthy when you don't. If

3288
02:56:00,160 --> 02:56:04,200
Speaker 14: you don't discriminate by income level, somewhat wealthy people will

3289
02:56:04,240 --> 02:56:06,920
Speaker 14: get a free bus ride here or there. That's not

3290
02:56:07,040 --> 02:56:09,240
Speaker 14: the end of the world if everybody is a free

3291
02:56:09,320 --> 02:56:12,280
Speaker 14: bus ride. So you know, I think that people need

3292
02:56:12,400 --> 02:56:15,160
Speaker 14: to look at democratic socialism, but also look at just

3293
02:56:15,280 --> 02:56:21,199
Speaker 14: look at socialism is progressive politics on steroids. So there's

3294
02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:23,480
Speaker 14: nothing to me, there's nothing wrong with it. I just

3295
02:56:23,640 --> 02:56:26,440
Speaker 14: have issues with the way the structure of the essay

3296
02:56:26,959 --> 02:56:30,440
Speaker 14: used to be. And I haven't been in spitting distance

3297
02:56:30,520 --> 02:56:35,920
Speaker 14: of them in at least forty years, but the way

3298
02:56:35,959 --> 02:56:39,160
Speaker 14: it was structured to me was cumbersome. But the ideas

3299
02:56:39,440 --> 02:56:44,000
Speaker 14: were vivid and popping, and even the idea of free groceries.

3300
02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:48,360
Speaker 14: Now people say, how do you pay for that? What

3301
02:56:48,480 --> 02:56:52,120
Speaker 14: our food stamps? They're free groceries. I don't have a

3302
02:56:52,200 --> 02:56:56,760
Speaker 14: big problem sharing the wealth. The predatory capitalism is the

3303
02:56:56,879 --> 02:57:01,120
Speaker 14: opposite of democratic socialism. Predators capital said I'm just gonna

3304
02:57:01,120 --> 02:57:05,480
Speaker 14: take your stuff, I'll take your land, I'll take your.

3305
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:07,240
Speaker 20: Work.

3306
02:57:07,879 --> 02:57:12,880
Speaker 14: And Tory capitalism is the foundation of inflavement, is extracting

3307
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:17,400
Speaker 14: people surplus value. Socialism, on the other hand, would say,

3308
02:57:17,640 --> 02:57:19,400
Speaker 14: let us share the surplus value.

3309
02:57:21,440 --> 02:57:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3310
02:57:21,840 --> 02:57:24,400
Speaker 1: Thirteen away from the top of doctor Malvau's mentioned, folks

3311
02:57:24,440 --> 02:57:26,800
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. Linda's online too, calling from Baltimore,

3312
02:57:26,959 --> 02:57:29,359
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Linda, you're I'm with doctor Julian Malveaux.

3313
02:57:30,560 --> 02:57:34,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, uh, Grand Rising. I just want to say that

3314
02:57:34,120 --> 02:57:36,640
Speaker 15: you know really quick that you are one hundred percent right,

3315
02:57:36,760 --> 02:57:40,039
Speaker 15: doctor Malvo due to the fact that you know, if

3316
02:57:40,120 --> 02:57:44,440
Speaker 15: we just stopped that money that they're almighty Jesus, listen,

3317
02:57:44,560 --> 02:57:48,040
Speaker 15: the world would change in fifteen minutes. You are absolutely right.

3318
02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:50,600
Speaker 15: I think about it every day. They don't understand nothing

3319
02:57:50,680 --> 02:57:55,000
Speaker 15: but money, that's all. We would earn a respect in

3320
02:57:55,240 --> 02:57:58,760
Speaker 15: twenty seconds because you know what, Listen, to this. Their

3321
02:57:58,840 --> 02:58:03,120
Speaker 15: bills are big, huge, they got everything right, and us

3322
02:58:03,200 --> 02:58:05,800
Speaker 15: black folks, some us ain't got nothing. We can bring

3323
02:58:05,879 --> 02:58:08,000
Speaker 15: them down to their knees. All we have to do

3324
02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:11,599
Speaker 15: is you night. And Al Sharpton has said that also.

3325
02:58:12,040 --> 02:58:12,680
Speaker 16: And it's true.

3326
02:58:12,760 --> 02:58:14,160
Speaker 15: I know it like I know my name.

3327
02:58:14,879 --> 02:58:15,760
Speaker 7: They were really hurt.

3328
02:58:15,840 --> 02:58:18,760
Speaker 15: Nothing else hurts them but money, and we will have

3329
02:58:18,920 --> 02:58:21,480
Speaker 15: their respect. And listen, if you just got to get

3330
02:58:21,520 --> 02:58:24,280
Speaker 15: out there and shop, go fill up a cart, come

3331
02:58:24,360 --> 02:58:26,960
Speaker 15: up too, and leave it in the store, and then

3332
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:29,520
Speaker 15: when you finish, go to another store. We got to

3333
02:58:29,520 --> 02:58:31,080
Speaker 15: bring them down to their knees.

3334
02:58:31,160 --> 02:58:33,280
Speaker 16: Right, Seriously, it's ridiculous.

3335
02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:36,520
Speaker 15: That's the only way. When you said to us, said,

3336
02:58:36,560 --> 02:58:42,560
Speaker 15: thank god, somebody is thinking what I'm thinking. And money talks, right.

3337
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:47,160
Speaker 15: They cut that off their guard. They will change overnight.

3338
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:49,240
Speaker 15: I know what I'm talking about. I've been in this

3339
02:58:49,360 --> 02:58:51,680
Speaker 15: world a long time and I made some dogs and

3340
02:58:51,760 --> 02:58:54,240
Speaker 15: some wrecks and all of that crap, and I know

3341
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:57,199
Speaker 15: how to treat people, especially when they're doing me wrong.

3342
02:58:58,400 --> 02:59:00,920
Speaker 15: Take your money and guess what. After you go in

3343
02:59:00,959 --> 02:59:03,440
Speaker 15: the market and fill up the car, guess what, take

3344
02:59:03,520 --> 02:59:06,000
Speaker 15: that money, put a jar in your car and put

3345
02:59:06,040 --> 02:59:08,440
Speaker 15: that money in that in your jar and start saving

3346
02:59:08,480 --> 02:59:10,879
Speaker 15: your money and have a good laugh too. And why

3347
02:59:10,920 --> 02:59:14,560
Speaker 15: can't you change? Overnight? There you go, overnight, there you go.

3348
02:59:14,840 --> 02:59:18,240
Speaker 14: You ain't say, you ain't the word nothing but the

3349
02:59:18,320 --> 02:59:18,960
Speaker 14: word thank you.

3350
02:59:19,320 --> 02:59:20,640
Speaker 15: We we have to break.

3351
02:59:20,520 --> 02:59:25,039
Speaker 14: Ourselves of the change. The change will change the produce

3352
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:29,000
Speaker 14: that would change. And when libe that right, go break

3353
02:59:29,040 --> 02:59:30,960
Speaker 14: every chain, just break every change.

3354
02:59:32,040 --> 02:59:35,520
Speaker 15: Mm hmm yeah, because they're gonna cut out through every

3355
02:59:35,640 --> 02:59:39,400
Speaker 15: five seconds down here and and again. That's all we got.

3356
02:59:39,800 --> 02:59:41,800
Speaker 15: I can't think of nothing else that I'm a good thinker,

3357
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:43,920
Speaker 15: but I know that would bring them to their knees.

3358
02:59:44,560 --> 02:59:47,120
Speaker 15: The whole world would change in five minutes. State the

3359
02:59:47,200 --> 02:59:50,680
Speaker 15: state if people just did did what you said. I

3360
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:53,680
Speaker 15: know it would work. I would state my life. It

3361
02:59:53,760 --> 02:59:57,680
Speaker 15: would work. It would change in ten seconds because money

3362
02:59:57,760 --> 02:59:59,960
Speaker 15: is the only thing that white folks understand.

3363
03:00:00,760 --> 03:00:05,840
Speaker 1: Again, I let you go because you're repeating yourself. We'll

3364
03:00:05,879 --> 03:00:08,119
Speaker 1: get the gist of what you're saying. But doctor malvau,

3365
03:00:08,200 --> 03:00:10,520
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because we talked about earlier

3366
03:00:10,760 --> 03:00:13,240
Speaker 1: and I got a sweet question. Were about my question

3367
03:00:13,320 --> 03:00:15,720
Speaker 1: earlier about that the black group is starting this this

3368
03:00:16,040 --> 03:00:19,480
Speaker 1: selected blowing buying. If you will starting the weekend of

3369
03:00:19,520 --> 03:00:22,360
Speaker 1: Black Friday, because Dick Gregory used to talk about this

3370
03:00:22,440 --> 03:00:23,840
Speaker 1: quite a bit, but he says, you can never get

3371
03:00:23,879 --> 03:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Black people away from Christmas. There's something about us that's

3372
03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:30,400
Speaker 1: in our boys that they programmed us to believe in

3373
03:00:30,440 --> 03:00:33,240
Speaker 1: this Christmas deal. So we can never get black people

3374
03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:35,680
Speaker 1: to do anything to be selected bias when it comes

3375
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:38,240
Speaker 1: to the Christmas holiday. I want to get your thoughts.

3376
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:42,520
Speaker 14: Well, I don't agree. Our kind of agree, and I

3377
03:00:42,560 --> 03:00:46,240
Speaker 14: don't agree. I think that we are addicted, confused, and

3378
03:00:46,320 --> 03:00:48,720
Speaker 14: I think we consume at the drop of perhat. We

3379
03:00:48,879 --> 03:00:53,960
Speaker 14: consume for Christmas, for New Years, for Thanksgiving Day, for

3380
03:00:54,120 --> 03:00:56,600
Speaker 14: Valentine's Day. Some people don't even have a boo and

3381
03:00:56,640 --> 03:01:00,480
Speaker 14: they still buy it on Valentine's Day. Why, in any case,

3382
03:01:00,840 --> 03:01:03,440
Speaker 14: we are consumers. That is the American way.

3383
03:01:04,240 --> 03:01:04,760
Speaker 29: Is our dollars.

3384
03:01:04,800 --> 03:01:07,240
Speaker 14: So sister had such a good point about they've worshiped

3385
03:01:07,280 --> 03:01:09,920
Speaker 14: a dollar. So we have to decouple ourselves over Now,

3386
03:01:10,080 --> 03:01:12,360
Speaker 14: there's a spiritual aspect of Christmas that.

3387
03:01:12,400 --> 03:01:14,720
Speaker 7: If we're Christian we all embrace.

3388
03:01:15,320 --> 03:01:19,640
Speaker 14: But bye, but that celebrating the christ child does that

3389
03:01:19,800 --> 03:01:23,360
Speaker 14: means spending all your money, That means going to church,

3390
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:26,680
Speaker 14: That means getting the friends. Maybe you spend some money

3391
03:01:26,720 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 14: on a meal or something like that. It doesn't mean propagate.

3392
03:01:30,959 --> 03:01:31,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

3393
03:01:31,400 --> 03:01:34,400
Speaker 14: And then I confess. I mean, I remember one year

3394
03:01:34,480 --> 03:01:36,480
Speaker 14: my godchild, I think he turned out, and he had

3395
03:01:36,480 --> 03:01:38,520
Speaker 14: a Christmas list, and Carl you and I bought the

3396
03:01:38,560 --> 03:01:41,240
Speaker 14: whole Christmas list for him. His mom said to me,

3397
03:01:41,320 --> 03:01:43,240
Speaker 14: she said, where did you see all that money? I said, well,

3398
03:01:43,520 --> 03:01:45,800
Speaker 14: you know, he's my godchild. I want to have a

3399
03:01:45,840 --> 03:01:52,080
Speaker 14: good Christmas. That's crazy. That was totally crazy, but it

3400
03:01:52,320 --> 03:01:57,440
Speaker 14: was bowing to the predatory capitalist notion that you show

3401
03:01:57,600 --> 03:01:58,520
Speaker 14: love by spend.

3402
03:02:00,080 --> 03:02:00,240
Speaker 11: Yeah.

3403
03:02:00,320 --> 03:02:03,840
Speaker 14: So we still have to separate ourselves from Christians. We

3404
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:07,840
Speaker 14: have to separate ourselves from Christmas. We have to celebrate,

3405
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:13,720
Speaker 14: separate ourselves from predatory capitalism, and then toplicate spending. That is.

3406
03:02:16,240 --> 03:02:17,880
Speaker 1: All right. I got a tweet couple of two cuss

3407
03:02:17,920 --> 03:02:19,680
Speaker 1: Why I get this tweet and he says, grand rise

3408
03:02:19,760 --> 03:02:23,520
Speaker 1: And to your guest. Social Security just announced that cola

3409
03:02:23,800 --> 03:02:26,040
Speaker 1: will be two point eight percent for twenty twenty six

3410
03:02:26,120 --> 03:02:29,080
Speaker 1: for retirees and the disabled who get checks from them.

3411
03:02:29,360 --> 03:02:31,360
Speaker 1: This is a fifty eight to fifty nine dollars more

3412
03:02:31,760 --> 03:02:34,840
Speaker 1: cola is supposed to be determined by inflation statue. But

3413
03:02:35,480 --> 03:02:37,160
Speaker 1: the person goes on to say, I am not sure.

3414
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:40,680
Speaker 1: Can you explain how they calculate the amount? They concluded

3415
03:02:40,840 --> 03:02:43,480
Speaker 1: medicaire went up twenty four to twenty five percent more.

3416
03:02:45,400 --> 03:02:49,000
Speaker 14: They have a there's a basket of consumer process index

3417
03:02:49,480 --> 03:02:53,240
Speaker 14: has a basic basket of goods. I don't know what

3418
03:02:53,320 --> 03:02:54,760
Speaker 14: it is off the top of my head. There's a

3419
03:02:54,840 --> 03:02:57,800
Speaker 14: basic basket of goods that people would spend on with

3420
03:02:57,920 --> 03:03:00,920
Speaker 14: the utilities, blah blah blah blah. I don't think medical

3421
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:05,400
Speaker 14: insurance is included. That the government looks at the basket

3422
03:03:05,480 --> 03:03:08,000
Speaker 14: of goods, what it cost last year, what it costs

3423
03:03:08,120 --> 03:03:10,800
Speaker 14: this year, and that would be the increase the social

3424
03:03:10,840 --> 03:03:13,640
Speaker 14: security increase. So if you look at the basket of goods,

3425
03:03:13,680 --> 03:03:15,520
Speaker 14: you may look at it and say, hey, this is

3426
03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:20,160
Speaker 14: not stuff I buy. But that's how they determine the CPI,

3427
03:03:20,280 --> 03:03:23,640
Speaker 14: the consumer price index, and then that will determine what

3428
03:03:23,760 --> 03:03:27,440
Speaker 14: your security social security increase will be. And it's very

3429
03:03:27,560 --> 03:03:31,440
Speaker 14: low compared to us. You say, increasing costs of medical care,

3430
03:03:31,720 --> 03:03:34,200
Speaker 14: a number of other things, gas, the lean prices up.

3431
03:03:34,680 --> 03:03:37,440
Speaker 14: That's how they and we give them the fact that

3432
03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:39,720
Speaker 14: government is on shutdown. I'm not even sure that we

3433
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:42,959
Speaker 14: can access the data on the basket of goods right now.

3434
03:03:44,520 --> 03:03:46,960
Speaker 1: Wow, stix away from the top ed, Doctor Alvau. Another

3435
03:03:47,040 --> 03:03:49,680
Speaker 1: question for you, Tweter wanted to note Doctor Malvaux think

3436
03:03:49,720 --> 03:03:52,000
Speaker 1: Defense are going to cut interest rates again before the

3437
03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:52,560
Speaker 1: end of the year.

3438
03:03:54,440 --> 03:03:57,720
Speaker 14: I really don't know. They seem to be leaning toward it.

3439
03:03:57,800 --> 03:04:00,800
Speaker 14: And with the new composition of the said is black. Oh,

3440
03:04:00,920 --> 03:04:03,120
Speaker 14: it's possible, but I'm fifty fifty on what they're going

3441
03:04:03,200 --> 03:04:03,320
Speaker 14: to do.

3442
03:04:03,400 --> 03:04:04,680
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know what they're going to do.

3443
03:04:05,120 --> 03:04:05,240
Speaker 24: Uh.

3444
03:04:05,959 --> 03:04:08,440
Speaker 14: This is going to depend on also what people are

3445
03:04:08,480 --> 03:04:12,240
Speaker 14: hearing or feeling about the just shut down. So that's

3446
03:04:12,320 --> 03:04:14,400
Speaker 14: that's another factor to take into consideration.

3447
03:04:18,360 --> 03:04:20,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just I'm just getting all these these tweet

3448
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:23,640
Speaker 1: questions for your Dr Malva. Let me see you with this,

3449
03:04:23,720 --> 03:04:26,800
Speaker 1: one says, ask doctor Malivo. Why has not been Why

3450
03:04:27,280 --> 03:04:31,200
Speaker 1: why they're not yet being created a mobile online national

3451
03:04:31,280 --> 03:04:34,960
Speaker 1: black page so we can search and buy black black people,

3452
03:04:35,200 --> 03:04:36,279
Speaker 1: black business anywhere.

3453
03:04:37,720 --> 03:04:40,879
Speaker 14: That's a really great question, and it's a great possibility

3454
03:04:41,160 --> 03:04:45,400
Speaker 14: for one of our organizations to embrace woman to challenges.

3455
03:04:45,440 --> 03:04:47,400
Speaker 14: There is for us to work collectively around that, but

3456
03:04:47,520 --> 03:04:52,119
Speaker 14: that would be fantastic. I don't know which organization would

3457
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:56,640
Speaker 14: take it on, but there's a possibility. And sister or

3458
03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:59,760
Speaker 14: brother who raised a question get with somebody and started

3459
03:05:00,240 --> 03:05:02,480
Speaker 14: We've got There are lots of black pages, but it

3460
03:05:02,520 --> 03:05:03,800
Speaker 14: would be great to have one.

3461
03:05:05,320 --> 03:05:07,320
Speaker 1: Right I know, brother Saint Klair Skinner as I love

3462
03:05:07,400 --> 03:05:10,520
Speaker 1: black people, but it's not necessarily for buying. It's just

3463
03:05:10,600 --> 03:05:13,000
Speaker 1: for helping as well as well as purchasing, but also

3464
03:05:13,400 --> 03:05:17,360
Speaker 1: goods and services for black folks. And it's global, so

3465
03:05:17,800 --> 03:05:20,440
Speaker 1: maybe we need to put that more into the forefront.

3466
03:05:21,000 --> 03:05:24,000
Speaker 1: Doctor Malvaux. I just want to thank you again for

3467
03:05:24,120 --> 03:05:27,080
Speaker 1: joining us this morning and the information you shared with us.

3468
03:05:28,520 --> 03:05:30,320
Speaker 14: You know, Carl is always a pleasure to be with you.

3469
03:05:30,480 --> 03:05:33,520
Speaker 14: I just we go back and I just always been

3470
03:05:33,800 --> 03:05:38,879
Speaker 14: withcribed many accomplishments and happy to be on the train

3471
03:05:39,000 --> 03:05:43,279
Speaker 14: with you, on the Black Folks train with you anytime

3472
03:05:43,320 --> 03:05:45,840
Speaker 14: you need it, you know, I we do respond.

3473
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just as you just made me think about

3474
03:05:48,959 --> 03:05:52,080
Speaker 1: those days where there's the debate you had with Armstrong Williams.

3475
03:05:53,040 --> 03:05:56,279
Speaker 1: That was some interesting radio family. Those who were around

3476
03:05:56,520 --> 03:06:00,680
Speaker 1: Dr Malvaux going toe to toe with Armstrong Williams, it

3477
03:06:00,840 --> 03:06:02,879
Speaker 1: was interesting radio and those of you who know I'm

3478
03:06:02,920 --> 03:06:05,440
Speaker 1: strong to know how you know contentious he can be,

3479
03:06:05,879 --> 03:06:09,040
Speaker 1: and how you know with his views and how steadfast

3480
03:06:09,120 --> 03:06:12,720
Speaker 1: he with his views, and doctor Mayrvo also always took

3481
03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:13,040
Speaker 1: him out.

3482
03:06:13,120 --> 03:06:15,959
Speaker 7: Thank you, doctor Malva, Thank you Carl.

3483
03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:17,959
Speaker 14: Have a blessed day, all.

3484
03:06:17,879 --> 03:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Right, family, that's doctor Julian man Beau. Before we go,

3485
03:06:19,959 --> 03:06:22,039
Speaker 1: just want to remind you came to the say prayer,

3486
03:06:22,160 --> 03:06:24,320
Speaker 1: our thoughts for our folks that down in Jamaica and

3487
03:06:24,440 --> 03:06:26,800
Speaker 1: Cuba and the Bahamas. This storm now, they say, is

3488
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:29,400
Speaker 1: worse than Katrina. And most of us saw what Katrina

3489
03:06:29,440 --> 03:06:31,520
Speaker 1: did to New Orleans and it's going to hit them

3490
03:06:31,720 --> 03:06:35,360
Speaker 1: later this morning or later this afternoon. Family and classes

3491
03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:38,560
Speaker 1: dismissed for the day. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy.

3492
03:06:38,680 --> 03:06:40,560
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in

3493
03:06:40,680 --> 03:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also in the DMV

3494
03:06:43,840 --> 03:06:46,040
Speaker 1: on fourteen fifteen WL