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And 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.400 there's something strange about the Johnson's of course too. This 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:37.679 one stars Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro, Pascal, Emma Stone and yeah, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.160 let's go ahead and get a get a round table going. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.840 I'm gonna start with you, Rod and stretching my left. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.560 What did you think about this one? 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.320 I thought it was cool man. Oh, okay, it was late. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.520 I had to go to a late show, so I 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.440 was a little out of it when I saw it, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.600 and I wanted to see it a second time because 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.320 I dozed off in a couple of millions, but not 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.600 dozing off because I thought. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:58.880 It was born. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.480 It was just just it's a long movie and it 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.480 was like eleven thirty when I had to go see it. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.840 But but nah, nah, I think I thought it was uh. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.160 I thought it was an interesting, interesting story from Ariaster 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:20.200 so oh from ARIASTERA. And the performances were great. U 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:25.079 there was some like some some old shit moments and yeah, man, overall, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.400 I want to go back and see it. I want 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.880 to go back and watch it because I didn't, you know, 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.280 like I said, I felt tired, but it definitely felt 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:33.880 I wanted to definitely go back and watch it. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.480 So yeah, I thought I thought it was decent. I 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.120 thought it was a decent film, Spike, what what do 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.639 you think usually this pacing, this style a type movie 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:47.640 like I'm really drawn too, And this one it was 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.880 good till it wasn't like till it got to a 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.560 point where it was like what's happening and why is 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.160 it happening? 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.520 But the performances were good. It wasn't a complete like 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.400 waste of time or anything like that, but I wasn't 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:02.600 fulfilled at the end. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.000 Again, what did you think about this one? 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:06.120 I loved it? 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:11.960 Actually, you know, I didn't you know when when I 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:18.440 read the description on AMC, I was like, but when 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.240 it got going, after the setup, you got into it 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.320 and you kind of see. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.960 What it appeared to me what they were going for. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.840 I was like, Oh, this is really interesting where he's going. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.240 And then when he got to the conclusion, I was like, damn. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.560 And it really left me with a lot to think about, 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.760 Like it was just kind of sitting on me just 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.080 to think about the roles of each parts of the movie. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.800 So yeah, I was I loved it. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.440 It was a good capture At the time, like, I 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.440 thought that was really cool, like he was able to 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.200 capture so many different things. That was happening just in 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.680 this one town that could be applied in other towns 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.560 or cities or whatever. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.520 So I thought that was that was That was really good, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:02.560 good directing. All right, Well, I did not expect it 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.200 to go this way. I didn't like this movie at all. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.160 I thought it was terrible. I don't understand what the 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.560 point of this was. Ari Astro typically has something to 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.720 say with his films. I don't know what point he 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.960 was trying to make with this. It seemed very campy. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.919 It seemed very hokey. I don't even understand why in 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.480 the fuck you bothered to get Emma Stone, who was 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.080 an incredible actor, to be in this movie, because she 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.279 was only in it for a total of like thirteen 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.320 and a half minutes. The movie was boring as fuck. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.039 I see why he fell asleep for the majority of 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.800 this film. I was seriously like, why why are we 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.920 doing this? I've seen pandemic movies nine point five times 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.520 out of ten, they're terrible. This was not much of 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.960 an exception. I did not like this movie at all. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:58.080 It seemed very obvious where it was leading to. I am, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.440 I am, I'm not even like mad that I spent 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.640 money on this shit or nothing. I'm more so just 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.080 like damn bro, whenever he puts a film out, I'm 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.719 so looking forward to it, and we get this a 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:19.120 pandemic Western for fucking what, dude, it had Yeah, a 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:26.040 satirical yes, thank you, a satirical modern Western in COVID 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.560 and then you're throwing in blm shit. It was just like, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.919 what in the fuck are we doing? For two hours 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:38.760 and forty motherfucking minutes, what are we doing? That's how 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.320 long it was. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.880 It was. Yeah, it was a long as a movie. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.039 Right, maybe two hours and thirty. It was definitely well 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.200 over two hours. Yeah, it was over two hours, and 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.800 it did not need to be. This bitch could have 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.719 been an hour and fifteen and I'd have been like, cool, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.560 you hit the mark. But no, I did not like 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.800 this film at all. I'm glad y'all did, though. I'm 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.560 happy to be on an island by myself, So let's 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.840 go ahead and get into the shit. It opens in 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.159 late twenty twenty in a town called Eddington, Texas. See 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.320 a homeless man walking down the street ranting to himself. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.599 But right after that we meet Joe Cross who's played 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.240 by Joaquin Phoenix, and he is a local sheriff who 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.280 seems to have a problem with mask mandate Spike, what 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.720 was your first impression of Joe Cross? Uh Man, Mike 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.039 would hate this guy. It was the first thing for Jesus. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.000 He reminds me that guy you worked with. I did 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.719 that ran through my head as well. Uh. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.520 I mean I seen immediately what they were trying to 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.920 do when they were showing who Joe was, So I 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.080 was it led my mind to wonder, Okay, what's Pascal's 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.919 role going to be as the kind of antagonist to 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.640 this and how are they going to play off of 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.760 each other? Because he was very clear on what side 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.560 he stood on and what he was about to represent 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:49.520 throughout the whole movie. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.240 So okay, Ken, same thing. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.880 Now. It took him. It took a while for. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.680 Me to kind of get into what Joe was in 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.760 this presentation. I think that you know, it just just 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.640 really you're in this town in New Mexico. You know 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.839 these people run up, so you gotta wear a mask. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.920 I thought it was just stupid, but then it was 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.400 to say, we put your mask on, and put the 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.720 mask on and they pull off, and like all he 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.720 has to do is take it right back. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.600 Off, he in the car too, and no one else 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:17.120 is in the car. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.960 People were doing that though. That's what I liked about 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.559 That's what I liked about it. Initially. I'm like, Okay, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.080 this is a real glimpse of how shit was, you 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.480 know what I'm saying. Like people was putting the mask 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.520 underneath their noses. He's like, you don't even got your 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:31.480 masks always fucking on. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.640 So like, like I did. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.440 I liked the realness of it, like that he that 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.960 he was immediately capturing a time in this in this 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:41.600 little town. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.360 So yeah, no, it yeah, that was that. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.040 I know you didn't ask me yet, but that was 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.920 my my initial take from the opening with with Joaquin. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.360 Yeah, from the opening, my initial thing was like, oh, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.600 he's married to Emma Stone, Like all right, yeah, you 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.360 gonna have to make that make sense. Then it was 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.840 just like, is this supposed to be funny. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.920 It's listened as a comedy. Yeah, that's crazy. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.960 And Bo was afraid kind of was too, and I 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.040 did not like Bo's afraid on the first watch. I 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.440 had to watch it again and I was like, oh, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.880 I see what he's doing. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:13.560 I get it. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.200 I don't think I need to watch this again. I'm 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.720 not watching this again. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.760 I feel like I do because it's already as stid. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.040 I'm gonna get him that grace because like I was 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.800 the same way with bulls Afraid. I think we both 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.800 was on the same page with that. Like when I 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.160 watched it again, I was like, oh, yeah, I really 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:29.560 like this. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.920 But I didn't fall asleep. I didn't fall asleep. I 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.559 don't think I missed anything. I just think this movie 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.480 was fucking boring and vapid. I think that if you 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.240 fell asleep during a moment, even if it was for 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.840 ten fifteen minutes, I can see why you want to 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.240 go back and be like, well, what did I miss? 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.320 Just in case that thing that I missed right changed everything. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.640 I don't think I can't imagine you falling asleep for 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.800 enough time to make this movie and a masterpiece. But yeah, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.520 I mean I would understand why you feel like you 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:58.200 need to go see it again. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:58.959 I just wanted to see it. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.680 I wasn't I didn't feel like I was lost, right, Yeah, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.760 I just wanted to see it in this entirety. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:05.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.240 It wasn't it because like, oh man, I feel like 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.480 I missed something It's just like, I don't know, I 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.480 just wanted to see how it feels if I watch 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.440 it all the way through, because it was like a 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.280 ten minute sleep. It was just like a real doles 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.160 and I wake up. Ho shit, And I fell asleep 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.160 the same thing with me. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.719 And now that you mentioned it, they were doing a 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.400 little right before the smack, I fell asleep a little 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.240 bit in that little montague that he was running. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.319 When you forgotten you fell asleep till just down, Yeah, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.199 I did. I did because I was thinking. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.160 I was like, oh yeah, right before he smacked him, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.480 I was like, you know, one of those, and then 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.080 I was yeah. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:37.120 That's nothing bro like. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.920 So when Joe's called through a disturbance at the bar, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.680 we meet Ted Garcia played by Pedro pascal Ken. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.520 Did you have any first impressions. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.640 Meeting him or about like what went down at the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.839 bar with the homeless man and all that not. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:52.839 Initially it didn't. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.520 It didn't really kind of connect for me until later, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.040 you know, cause uh, but nah, it was just an 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.720 introduction to Pedro, him coming in and wrestling, you know, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.319 with the guy. It really was more about the mask 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.280 and just his reluctance to wear the mask and how 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.040 when he came in and everybody just kind of ran 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.800 away from him. It was like, oh my god, you 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.040 know he don't have a mask on and stuff like that, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.240 and you know, of course their reaction to the homeless 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.360 guy or whatnot. But now I think it was a 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.840 nice little subtle introduction to Pedro and him convincing that 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.600 town to try to get on board with this vision 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:32.360 of the future. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:34.680 What about your Spike. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.280 I was similar to Rod in this moment when he's 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.000 talking about like, oh oh, I remember these conversations that 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.360 were being had. I remember like people being on both 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.120 sides of this and really making it a big deal, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.959 not knowing like what's right and what's wrong as far 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.000 as the correct etiquette that you're supposed to have, but 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:52.480 wearing them. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.800 So he did, Like it was kind of nostalgic to 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.040 that time. You heard that. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.040 Roding, What was the actual question Joe's called through a 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.560 disturbance to the bar we meet ted Garcia and what 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.600 were your first impressions meeting him or watching what went 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.760 down at the bar? Yeah, so yeah, he was just 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:15.160 on the opposite end of Joaquim's characters. So I knew 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.920 that was gonna be the clash or whatever, And I 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.440 thought that was the representation of, like I said, of 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.840 those times, like you got this one character that's gonna 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.240 embody that that subset of people ain't gonna have this 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.880 character embody in this subset. So yeah, I was just 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.400 it made me anticipate the class that was to come 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:35.400 or whatever. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.640 I was trying to understand. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.280 The the homeless guy, whatever he was. I was trying 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.480 to understand his plot line. And I know he probably 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.320 was bringing COVID to the city. I guess what did 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:47.600 he come? 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.200 Yeah? 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.240 But where did he come from? 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:49.600 Is it? 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:54.120 It was my whole thing? I guess like that that 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:54.960 was my whole thing. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:59.880 He represents the virus that infected this whole town. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:01.920 He basically says it later. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.160 Yeah, but not physically and just metaphor. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.560 So, but yeah, I just my whole thing was like 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:09.560 where did you come from? 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:11.760 As soon as as soon as it got showed up, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.240 remember it's open the shot with him in the mouth. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:16.880 As soon as he came in everything went to hell 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:17.960 as soon as he got into town. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.680 Yeah, I wrote it down. He was saying some weird 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.360 ship at the beginning, but I can't find it. I'm 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.560 I'm on the inside and I'll spit you out. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:25.880 He was. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:27.719 I was trying to write down as many things that 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.640 he was saying with his ranting, But yeah, I definitely 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.000 think he was supposed to represent the virus itself. Uh 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.040 So Joe comes home, We meet his wife Louise played 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:36.800 by Emma Stone. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.280 We also meet Luis's. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.760 Mom, Dawn. Remember her. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:43.280 From peng. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:51.160 Was recognized the voice the voice that recognize Yeah, well, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.920 since you're already talking, what do you think about them? 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.120 I thought she was dope. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.160 I mean, like obviously in Penguin she shined a lot more. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.560 But because I. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.440 Immediately identify knew who she was, I was like, Okay, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.120 this this is good. This is good casting. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.000 And again the person she represents, like the person ever 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.960 was doing all the conspiracy shit, you know what I'm saying, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:16.520 Like like, I'm like, damn, they really like embodying, like 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.480 this moment with these different characters and we only like 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.400 three four characters in and I'm like, damn, this is 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.439 this was the pandemic. These were the people in the pandemic, 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.960 and you don't need that many people to tell this story. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.040 So I thought it was really dope that he's doing 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.559 a lot with a little It's so funny because all 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.920 the things you keep talking about is exactly why I 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:35.360 didn't like this. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:35.640 Fuck. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.800 It was just like, bro, this is so basic. This 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.679 is a basic ass fucking story. I feel like anybody 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.000 could have made this. I want something when Ariastra makes 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.640 a film, I want something to chew on, like anyone 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.480 Stephen King fucking I can't think of anybody like like, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.280 you know, but just about any fucking average ass director. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.080 I'm might be exactly a tiny bit, but you know, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:06.720 this didn't feel like a thought provoking, genre bending, crazy 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:07.720 Ariastra film. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.679 It was just like, all right, you got. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.640 Fucking COVID people in this, Like I've already met these people. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:13.760 This isn't interesting to me. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.920 And I think I might have a slightly different perspective 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.920 than you because I haven't been watching COVID movies like 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.880 oh shows or whatever that. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:22.280 I don't either. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.960 I've seen a few, but then they're always bad. So 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.000 when a COVID movie pops up, I'm like, I'm good 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.840 unless it's a flat out horror movie. If it's like 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.920 one of them shits where it's like, oh, we're you know, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.360 this is like a post apocalyptic film about a virus 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.680 that breaks out and everybody gets it and they turn 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.760 into zombies, and I'll watch that. But if it's like, oh, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:50.000 we're taking a snapshot of twenty twenty, fuck off, Like 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.680 I saw the poster was like Hindsighter's twenty twenty, and 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.280 I'm like, even that's corny. It's like, dude, what are 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.000 we doing? But it's just me again once again. I'm 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.080 glad you guys like that. Uh, Spike, what did you 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.000 think of Luis and Don? 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.760 I didn't like it. I want to get clarified. I'm 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:07.760 closer to you than. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.320 Closer to you than because I felt similar to what 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.880 you were saying, like the mother, like the character was good. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.360 I liked the mother and again bringing back nostalgia, like 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.920 I remember that person doing COVID, like she printed out 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.520 the fucking packet for her to read, like the person 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:32.480 calling you, like bro, relax. But I kept waiting it 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.120 to mean more and I maybe I missed some of 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.120 the meaning or whatever it may be, but it never. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.520 Really hit that spot for me. Even with the mom. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.920 It didn't pay It didn't pay off like that weird 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:42.760 scene it had later. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.840 But yes, and I guess for me, I realized that 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.000 it was very surface level. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.360 Early early on, I was like, Okay, I don't know 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.240 if this is the typical Ariastor type film, because the 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.960 way he started laying everything out, unless it was going 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.880 to be some sort of supernatural thing that was going 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:58.280 to come. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.840 Waiting on, He's not, you usually surface level. His movies 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.400 are usually very deep in details. So ken anything to 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.560 say about Louis and don No, I don't. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.760 Really have anything to add, you know, I think that 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:17.440 they represent what they were clearly meant to represent, so we. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:18.040 Would have done. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:19.880 I think that. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.200 Louise, I'm sorry. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.880 I think she got I think hers came a little 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.200 bit later, like her mom was really trying to interject 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.840 a lot of these ideas into her head, that her 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.720 beliefs and stuff like that, and you know, it clearly 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.520 shows she was like traumatized by something, you know that happened. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.640 We just didn't know at the time what it was, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.040 but you know, even she was starting to believe and 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:55.480 get infected with her own sort of alternative beliefs about 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:56.800 what was going on in the world. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.560 Yeah, there was a part where they were making out 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.320 in the bed and they stopped and she said I'm sorry, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.959 and then they kind of like just completely stopped. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:09.840 I missed something. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.080 She still I will yet she was trying to get 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.560 over something. Okay, they had prevented them from being intimate, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:16.360 got it. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.320 Okay, alrighty the grocery store. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.240 So they go to the grocery store and there's people 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.840 not being let in because they don't have a mask on, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.879 and Joe gets out and there's this whole hubbub inside 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.680 the grocery store. Ken, what'd you think about this part? 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.240 You know, at this point of the movie, we're pretty 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:44.440 much getting a snapshot of everything, So it was how 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:49.639 enforceable is anything and who has the real power? 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:55.720 And what Joe was trying to. 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.040 Do was to have them take more of a an 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.679 empathetic view point from what this guy was saying is 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:07.160 that he can't breathe wearing a mask impacts him, and 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.920 to be a little bit more humane. I also think 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.280 Joe was just resistance to all of it, just period. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.320 He just didn't want to just comply with the government, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.080 so he was sort of anti government, whereas everybody else 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:21.919 was just going along with it. But we saw the 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.600 small amount of influence that Joe had because when he 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.760 came out there is that because one of the persons 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.320 in line took their mask off because Joe wasn't doing 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.400 it and what Joe said, But I think there could 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.320 have been a better solution, And the solution we saw 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:36.879 was when. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.680 Joe actually bought the grocery form. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:40.760 So maybe somebody could have wrote down the list and 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.720 had somebody going there and buy the groceries bringing out. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.040 But again, I think it was just setting up the 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.520 tension of what was gonna end up happening between Joe 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:57.040 and Pedro's character whoed ted later on, and to kind 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:01.320 of spawn like the idea for him to eventually run 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.240 for mayor Spike. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.399 Did you get empathy from what Joe was doing. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.000 I wouldn't say I was necessarily empathetic. I got it, though, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.520 and I understood why he was taking such a stance 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.520 because he said logical versus emotional debate in the sense 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.439 of like he was making sense. Not to say that 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.679 I agreed with him, but he's talking about the mandates 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.280 and it not being a law because the things they 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.000 had to do to make it law, and y'all are 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.760 just overreacting to stuff that you're seeing on the news. 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.040 And then him go ahead and buying the stuff for 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.840 the guy coming up with a solution versus just pushing 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.960 back on them because they had this stance. That was 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.719 what I liked the most about it, just him going 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:42.800 ahead and getting the groceries. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:44.119 But yeah, I. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:48.280 Mean again, it was continuing to go down and road 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.919 while I was wondering, like I said before, Okay, what 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.959 point is it going to get to with this. We 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.000 get he's on one side of it, this mayor. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.160 Guy's on the other side of it. What's the movie about? 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.840 Well, you know, guys like him kind of made things wrong, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.879 like they kind of they didn't help the situations, you know, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.600 because of their beliefs. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.040 And you know. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.280 We saw that later on, like he was like, COVID 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.320 is not even in this in that like what are 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.119 you all talking about? 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:18.400 Like then he ended. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:23.040 Up with it, so that makes sense anything. I was 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.359 just no, no, no, no, no, it's fine. 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:27.880 That's I was just going to bring it up too. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.760 He was just like, it's not even here, So why 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:31.560 what are we doing? 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:31.920 For real? 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.720 Is this is this like a political move, like what 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.280 what are we doing? He then and then teed Garcia 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.120 was just and then he went down the hole because 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.119 I've heard that conversation. We talked about it in the 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.080 podcast about dispercentage effects dispercentage and then that and then 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.520 that lessons the percentage or whatever. So I thought it 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:54.600 was just interesting him just recalling all of these things. 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.359 So in a weird way, it was like, even though 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.520 it wasn't that long ago, it was nostalgic. Whatever's like 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.119 of a time because a lot of people just like 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.199 kind of kind of forget the ship, like they like 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.000 forget that. We really didn't think we were going to 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.800 be like how we in here right now? We thought 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.840 that shit was over with man, So I thought it. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.160 I think it's interesting or interesting to kind of look 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:16.800 back at it, like, oh. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.440 Yeah, that's that's right, goddamn. 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.919 And it's like with his viewpoint, where where did his 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.679 viewpoint come from? Because he's not all the way with 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.960 Dawn and I guess Louise and the conspiracy part, is 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:33.280 he taking more of a pragmatic view of like we're 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.400 a small town. There's been no evidence of COVID bit 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.639 in this town. Why the hell are we wearing masks? 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.199 It makes no sense, you know? So, and was that 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.840 his stance versus them being more preventative like, we're gonna 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.240 wear a mask because we don't know what's going. 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.680 To happen, so it's best the urge on the side 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:53.200 of caution. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.359 And then he had asthma, so, you know, and not 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.680 wearing a mask, right right right, I was just saying, well, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.400 the asthma, he said, he that's one of the reasons 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.600 why you don't because he can't fucking breathe or whatever. 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.800 So so so it made it difficult. But since you're laughing, 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.000 I don't know why you're laughing, But for me, like 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.880 it's like you're not thinking about those people in there, 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.080 and there every day struggles of not being able to 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.520 just breathe normally every day. So we're like, oh, yeah, 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.439 wear a mask, wear a mask, wear a mask. But 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.480 some people they really struggled. They've really struggled with it. 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.159 And when you ask about empathy, I guess you do 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:31.719 got of empathize with that. 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.960 I mean, you don't have that struggle. No, it's not. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:34.359 I wasn't. 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:39.800 I was asking do you think Joe was being empathetic 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.560 when he went and said, you know, let that man 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.760 in without wearing a mask. I don't think he was 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:49.240 being empathetic. I think Joe represented the typical boneheaded redneck 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:53.680 that thinks you can't breathe with a mask on, which 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.679 is simply untrue. You can breathe with a mask on, 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.360 especially if you're only going in a store for ten minutes, 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.879 because that was a whole thing during twenty twenty. You 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.280 had these fucking rednecks that were just like, I'm not 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.479 putting that on because I can't breathe. I got a 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:16.240 medical condition, And it was nonsense. Like just looking at 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:20.359 it on a basic surface level, it doesn't make sense. 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.639 They're really trying to make you believe that me putting 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:24.840 this mask on for ten. 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:25.680 Minutes, I'm gonna die. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.879 It's nonsense. It's nonsense. So I never got anything as 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.360 far as empathy out of Joe. 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:33.320 I got. 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.720 Joe doesn't think COVID's real, because he says that in 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.760 the video that he posts, which was the next point. 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.919 He doesn't think COVID's real. He thinks all of this 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.760 is bullshit and it's all just like to strike back 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.479 at TED and the government for making them have a 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:53.080 mask mandate. But so, nah, I disagree with y'all when 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:54.840 it comes to Joe. So why wasn't he all the 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:59.119 way on the side of conspiracy. There's what do you mean. 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.080 Because he was somewhere in the like he didn't It's 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.440 like he didn't agree with them and the whole conspiracies, 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.720 and he also didn't agree with the whole COVID nineteen thing. 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:09.800 He was just somewhere in the middle, like, look, man, 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.040 it ain't here, goddamn it, Like I don't want to 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:12.639 wear a mask. 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.480 I disagree one hundred percent. I don't think he was 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.120 acting like that just because it wasn't there. He literally 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:23.199 said the virus was fake. He literally said that. He 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.679 tells Ted that he thinks it's fake, and then he 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.840 makes a video he's like, why are we wearing a 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.680 mask to protect ourselves from a virus that's not here? 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.240 Right after he tells Ted that he thinks the entire 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.919 thing is fake, So it's not because it's just not 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:41.879 in Eddington. He doesn't believe in it. Now the mom 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.840 is on a completely different level of conspiracy because there's 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.960 plenty of dumb ass rednecks that were like, oh, COVID's fake, 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.119 I don't know what y'all talk about, just the cold, 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.200 and then there's motherfuckers that were like, oh, like Alex 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:55.840 Jones were like, oh, it was made in a lab 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.639 and they released it on purpose because they want to 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.320 start a new world order. So there's level there's levels 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.400 of stupid. There's levels of stupid. Joe was only at 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:05.240 a certain one. 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.919 I got you, and I thought it was interesting to 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.480 see the story clap like by kicking them out, because 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:12.160 I've seen that too. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:13.400 I have to COVID home. 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.879 So I was like, man, he's really capturing all of 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.920 these moments. I think I may have gave a fuck 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.040 about this more. If this movie was like from like 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.520 ten years from now, I think it was something that 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.600 just happened five years ago. It's it's like, bro, really 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.040 like we just lived through this. I don't need you 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.719 to capture a time. My brain works pretty okay, I 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:37.040 remember all this. Yours does, mine typically does. But it 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.800 was it was interesting, like I do. I have noticed 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.840 people just it really like it, like it didn't even 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:44.639 fucking happen. 0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.120 I reflect back up with White, we reflect back on it, 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.880 you know. Ever, so them like, damn you walking around 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:51.440 wearing a mask. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.040 She's like once in a while, we're just like damn this. 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.639 Sally was really ever reflect on that because like you 0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.840 don't ever think about it, nah, because I still do it. 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:01.960 Like my mom has lung issues, so I still put 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:03.600 mask on when I'm around here. So it's not even 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.120 like a like, oh, remember remember a time. See that's 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.520 your personal experience, but that's not the world's experience right now. 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.360 I don't see how you forget something that happened five 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.320 years ago that was a major thing. If you do, 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:15.639 then you're doing it on purpose. 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.399 It's most people trying to forget. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.880 That's what I'm saying. You're doing it on purpose, you're 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:25.160 trying to forget it. So him making this movie so soon, 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.639 it's just like for what, Like, I don't need you 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.919 to remind me of some shit that just happened, like 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.919 unless you're making a grand point, which we never in 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.120 my opinion, never got there. 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:38.600 Yeah. 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.280 Typically, I typically don't like that. 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:41.840 When they were trying to make all the nine eleven 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.840 movies after nine to eleven, yeah, so I didn't watch 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:49.000 any of those, but yeah, this one, I don't know 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.479 it just I didn't know just what. 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.000 I didn't knowice what this movie was. 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:52.359 Going to be. 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.480 I thought they were misleading me when they were when 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.800 they kept marketing it like it was a Western about COVID. 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:01.639 I'm I'm like, no, it's Alreaster. 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.000 There's gonna be a demon named COVID that comes to 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.359 the earth and possesses people or some shit. It's not 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.520 gonna be about COVID. But when they literally start talking 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.800 about COVID, I was like, dude, are we serious? We 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.040 got another fucking two hours of y'all fucking talking about COVID. 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.679 But anyways, he makes this video, like I said, but 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.959 the main takeaway from the video is we find out 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.600 that he's running from mayor against Ted Garcia. So Ted 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.480 comes down there and confronts him about running. 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.320 What did you think of that part? 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:31.600 Rod? 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.040 I thought that was interesting because now the whole COVID 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.520 thing is thrown out because you was fucking way less 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.480 than six feet. 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:43.040 Away from his ass. So I thought that was interesting. 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:50.240 So it kind of lend lended to Joe's point of like, Okay, 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.160 is this just a political thing that you're doing or 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.880 is this actual a threat fear that you have? 0:27:58.960 --> 0:27:59.919 Right, right, right? 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.359 But they flipped rolls to a certain degride. O. Remember, 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.760 so when he kept getting closer, Joe was like six 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.360 feet he was being smart, You're not you thought. 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:09.960 He was being smart. 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:10.840 He was being smart ass. 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.640 I thought he was seriously he was teasing him because 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.880 he was like, come on, six feet I don't think 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.440 he was really like, hey man, you might have COVID 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.000 stay six feet away, because five minutes ago he just 0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:20.640 said it was fake. 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.040 I know, I know, but I thought he was also 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.399 misleading the public in a very similar way. Oh I 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:31.399 see that, Ted was because my thing with Joe running 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.240 for mayor is that he got caught up when people 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.600 were clapping. He was like, oh, ship these people actually 0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.120 really I feel yeah, you know, so his you know 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.400 his thing. Well, no, they were plowing Ted, I think, 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.960 but hewing the guy that kicked him out. 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.320 Kicked yeah, behind my back. 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:48.920 He got caught behind the text message. 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.600 Yeah that was Facebook posts. Yeah, that was it. Facebook posts. Yeah. Yeah. 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.120 So he was like, oh, there's a demand or for 0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:00.479 people that should speak up for like the people. There 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.680 needs to be representation for that demography. 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.479 So he go up. 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.400 It was fucking I'm gonna run from there because there 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.560 must be other people like that that feel the same way. 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.120 I never thought that, So that's a good one. I 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.560 never thought that he was faking it to gain popularity. 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.120 I thought he was just a dumb ass, fucking you know, 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.000 because he talked, I don't know if y'all caught it. 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.840 Did you catch the fentanyl part in the conversation? 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:24.800 You don't all know. 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.680 So he's talking about how one of his deputies died 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.120 from handling fentanyl without So if you remember, that was 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:36.719 another fucking alt right conspiracy that fentanyl was just everywhere. 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.480 And then there were these videos circulating around, which y'all 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.040 probably weren't paying attention to. This kind of shit is 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.000 why would you, But there were these videos floating around 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.240 of cops fucking pretending that they were dying of fentanyl 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.800 because they were like, we just touched a baggie and 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.200 inside the baggie was fentanyl. So there was a little 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.440 bit of fentanyl dust and the cops on the ground 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.440 doing this shit. So this was another one of these 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:06.120 weird alt right conspiracies that Joe was repeating. One of 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:10.280 my deputies died from handling fenton all without gloves. That 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.920 doesn't that didn't happen, So. 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.160 It more than likely it didn't happen to Joe. But 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.440 Joe was getting criticized for not keeping uh cops on 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.840 the forest too no, Ted made him get rid of. 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.760 Certain costs because they were abusing their power, and Joe 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.840 didn't like that either, because he feels like that should 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.160 be my choice. I think a lot of Joe's issue 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.680 is he wants control, and when control is taken away 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.680 from him, he gets mad. So that's that's how I 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:46.080 took that part. So, Spike, what'd you think of the 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.160 conversation Joe was having with his son Eric. I don't 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:50.800 know if you remember this, but there's there back at 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.000 their house. We start to see the facade of Ted 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.320 Krack when he's talking to his son. Do you remember 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:57.200 his son was trying to. 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.560 Leave and he was like, he asked about his wife 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.440 and he didn't care about her because she left, even 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.640 though like going to be around other people, and you 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.120 see him turn the politician off and going to dad 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.479 like asshole mode. It does show the crack in the character, 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.120 as you were saying, and make you kind of look 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.560 at him like he's full of shit. So they did 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:16.680 a good job of portraying it. 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.200 Over Rod, did you did you catch any anything as 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.280 far as why? 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:23.080 Uh? 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.440 Ted, I said Joe is having a conversation with I 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.240 met Ted. I meant Ted did you catch anything as 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.520 far as why Ted won't let his son Eric go 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.520 out in the streets. 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.600 Yeah, because it's it's a bad representation on him. 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.320 It was a California thing that happened, right, That happened 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.000 with Gavin Newsom. 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.960 I believe No. 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.960 So they the town is on lockdown and Eric wanted 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.440 to go out, but Ted thought it would be a 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.560 bad look on him. 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:56.560 You know, I'm saying that happened in real life because 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.440 they were the first ones, I think, the implement the 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.520 set downs, and then he was at the party with 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.440 the people like right after he announced it was what Yeah. 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.520 I believe you one hundred percent. Maybe I just don't 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:19.160 remember that happening. I remember select I do have long COVID, 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.440 so I have that excuse, but I remember that was 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.080 happening with a lot of celebrities. But to be honest, 0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.640 at the time, I don't think I even knew wo 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.720 Gavin Newsom was like that. So so anyway, that's interesting. 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.440 Do your answer about this part? 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.800 No, I mean we saw we saw them earlier because 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.080 they were out when Joe was going to they were 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.320 smoking reef. He was like, oh yeah, smell reefer in there. 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.920 We was going to arrest the homeless guy. 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.560 But he just seemed like a lenient type of sheriff, 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:48.280 like you know. 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.520 Yeah, anyway, he was which for a while, he was 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.120 like that with with the mask too, you know, you. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.120 Know he was he walked past me, knew they were smoking. 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.640 Yeah, yeah, but but nah, I think they pretty much 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:00.120 covered it. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.680 You know, it was just really about him. 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.240 But still he let him go, you know, because he's 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.040 in a position of privilege of powers, so we can 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.120 I could probably cover up or get away with any 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.160 of the stuff that happened. 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.080 Yeah, it was no Vema of twenty twenty. 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.560 He went to a party at the French Laundry restaurant 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.960 shortly after telling people to I. 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:19.600 Remember that's it? 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.000 Yeah, do you not remember that? 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:21.719 What a loser. 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.320 So well, there's a couple of things that also happened 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.880 during that conversation that we haven't touched on. One is 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.960 that Ted is in business with this company that wants 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.080 to build data centers. And the whole thing with data 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.680 centers is they suck up resources, they fuck up the water. 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.200 So the town is not happy about that. So we see, 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.360 That's what I meant about the crack starting to show 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.640 with Ted is Ted's not. He presents himself as this 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.959 I love my community, I want to help everybody kind 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:53.600 of guy. Meanwhile, he's in business with big, big business, 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.400 you know. Also, we find out that Ted used to 0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:01.880 date Louise, and there's this weird half story where Luise 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.400 gets pregnant. 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.840 Six months six months Mike what he kept reiterated, it 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:08.560 was only six. 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.480 Never touched it, right, he said, we never had sex, 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.319 so I don't know talking about but I'm like dog 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.080 six months that's crazy. 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.280 But yeah, six months. They never did anything. 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.040 So no, he didn't date it for six months. He 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.000 only went out on one day with her. It was 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.799 like he ended it because she was weird. But he 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.600 said six months later she came back and said she 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.240 was Oh that's. 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:29.560 What you're saying. 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.040 Yeah, I did that part. I just didn't Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.759 I knew that part. He stopped sucking with her because 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:39.400 of them damn dolls. She fuckings like Vallid Vallid. I 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.040 go to your house and you're making them ships. I'm out, bro, 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:43.359 how good you look? 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:45.439 So yes. 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.759 Then we have this this kind of side story with 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.480 this white girl named Sarah who's getting involved in social 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.440 activism this is just after the George Floyd situation, and 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.160 we also meet Brian who apparently has like a weird 0:34:58.200 --> 0:34:59.560 crush on her. 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.200 Ken You did you care about any of this? 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.480 What did they show the George Floyd thing? 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.120 Like they just said it was on TV? It was 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.600 on TV that part. 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.480 I had those off, but I assumed that it was 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:14.800 George Floyd that happened shortly after the COVID happened. 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.680 They definitely said George Floyd. I thought they just did 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.920 like a random, uh black. 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.640 Brutality type of thing it was. 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.440 I think they were watching at the police station if 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.680 I'm not, because they was immediately. 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:31.279 Trying to defend it, like what it detained for on 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:32.160 some police. 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.279 I think small towns was actually doing that. Yes, yeah, 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.160 big towns were doing that big towns. When I'm talking 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:42.439 about like a small country town like that. His question 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.440 is because maybe we're getting confused. 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:50.120 Defending would b b LM movements in little small country 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:50.959 towns y'all think. 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:55.160 That defending the BLM? I think you they were attacking 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.520 the BLM. I think most of these places were looking 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.960 at that, like Spike said, and being like, what is 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.799 George Floyd do? Like why are they detaining him. He 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.960 did something wrong? Is that what they were doing? That's 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.000 what he's talking about. 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:08.279 The kids? 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.680 About the kids, Yeah, yeah, I think that you probably 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:16.200 had the same vein of kids young woke. Yeah, like, oh, 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.719 we're going to go out and protest too, like you 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.399 had in this movie. I think they happened in small 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:19.879 towns too. 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.879 Definitely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got confused, but yes, 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.200 I do think there were there were especially little white 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.400 kids that want to rebel against their family. You know, yeah, 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.400 I definitely think I don't know if it was as 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.560 big as the right. It was like a lot of 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.040 it was a little unbelievable exaggerated. 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:38.560 Yeah, it was, it was, it was. 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:45.279 It was definitely intentionally exaggerated. But uh so we're talking 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.720 about Sarah Sarah. 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.360 Yeah, I guess sort of Eric is sort of involved, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:51.120 but yeah. 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.520 Yeah, so theyre at this party that meets Sarah. 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.439 So you know, I think now, so with with Ted 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.239 and and oh old girl, you kind of have of 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.000 sort of maybe like the me too movement coming in here. 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.399 Now you got this old George Floyd thing, so now 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.400 you got BLM here, and the so called woke virus 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.480 is thrown in here as well as I like to say, 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.960 you got the cops. So this whole thing about the 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:21.120 institution and now sizes or being picked in terms of 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.879 the cops really kind of not understanding what was going 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.719 on because they're in a small town. In that town, 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.520 they probably don't have to deal with a lot of 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.839 those issues that are elsewhere because they're just their own 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.759 sort of community, which is why Michael is kind of 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.040 oblivious to everything. So he's kind of bought into or 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.000 assimilated into the system of what Eddington is and probably 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.080 hasn't in his mind, has really experienced racism like that, 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.440 which is why Sarah was bewildered that he wasn't part 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.000 of them, which probably would get too. 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:53.359 Later, but. 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.640 And you know, that's why also why the white guy 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.719 was like, hey, man, like what do you agree with this? 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.840 And he just kind of was like, I agree with 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:02.360 what you know. He was just like, I don't, I 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.400 don't get it. So so it's it was it was 0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.840 Brian who has a secession like he didn't give a 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.759 fuck about anything that she was involved in. He just 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.120 googled the ship and went over to have a conversation 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.680 with him because he wasn't sincere or genuine, which is 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.680 why Eric was able to kind of come in and 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.320 move along because he was probably able to talk about 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.279 it or fake it a little bit more than him 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.160 and he became involved in a movement that he really 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.600 had no sincerity about. It was just all for chasing 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:33.040 his girl. 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.560 This was crazy. How he googled that fucking book real quick, bro. 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.960 Yeah, And the data is the interesting thing about the data. 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.640 So the interesting thing about the data center, And the 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.520 first of all, it's the George Floyd thing. What that 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.640 was in twenty centre So when I was like, man, 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:54.160 so much happened like and around that same time frame. 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.360 It's freaking nuts, bro, Like you had that happening and 0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:58.040 all this stuff. 0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.760 Yeah, it was, it was. It was insane. 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.239 But the data centers five years later are now like 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.759 AI because even they threw that in this ship. So 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.839 you got the because they need these centers in order 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.760 to do AI because it uses a lot of energy 0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.200 and computational power to do it. And there are reports 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:16.080 that these things. 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.080 Are really really loud. 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.640 And Mike already addressed all the consumption that he's doing 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.879 to the to the communities. There have been articles about 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.080 that stuff too. So it's a lot in this movie 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:27.880 that he threw in here. 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:30.799 Uh so. 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:31.080 Yeah. 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.719 So after Luis gets upset with Joe for running from Mayor, 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.600 we cut to some BLM protests and like Kim was 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.000 talking about, the protesters are trying to get Michael on 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.120 board with joining the fight, and Michael seems very hesitant. 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.040 Spike was a fucked up for Sarah to shane Michael 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.920 about this. It was man because he was trying. He 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.040 was trying to be there and be supportive of their cause. 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.960 He wasn't well read on it. I do agree with 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.359 her there, but she didn't try to take time either. 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:58.680 Like Michael's the cop, not Brian Blocky. Brian was the 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.080 one that arranged the fucking pro. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.640 Oh okay, you the whole thing you're talking about, my 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:08.719 god from the UK. I mean no, because he's kind 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.000 of oblivious to it, being a cop. Like, what side 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.200 would you expect him to be on? I think it 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.040 was more so her being mad because of them dating 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.319 and him not with them not being together anymore, and 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.360 she was using that as a conduit to be like 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.839 critical of him. I don't think she really expected him 0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.520 to be on the side, which in a small town. 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.279 I get it. I don't agree with it, but I 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:30.640 get it. 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.680 Before I pass this off, I'm just gonna go ahead 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.640 and throw out there it is always, in my opinion, 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.400 wrong for what for people like Sarah to do what 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.640 she did in this mood? You little white motherfucker, you 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:46.040 have zero and I mean I was pissed. I'm out 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:50.160 of this zero white to come to me a black 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:54.520 man and start talking about your representing racism? 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.400 Are you fucking insane? There were about three times in 0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.120 this movie I was like, what Mike is gonna be? 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:01.720 I was annoying. 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:06.640 I think Sarah's heart was in the right place, but no, 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.680 like I agree with her, he is backing up a 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:15.879 racist system, but I don't think that's her place, especially 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.240 in public with a whole bunch of other white people. 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.799 You got no fucking right to go up to a 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.799 black man and be like, you need to take that off. 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.839 You're representing racism and you need to be part of this. 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.360 Why aren't you taking a knee? 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.600 Motherfucker? What she was passionate to. 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.080 She believed that she she said this in real life before. 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.480 I believe that she said this in real life to 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.320 somebody before. She was too believable with this, like it 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.279 seemed like improv It ain't even seem like I don't know, man, 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.680 she was going, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.560 bit triggering, but it was fun and it was like 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.560 interesting why I said it seems so real because she 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.840 had conflict in saying it and like, and I know 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.160 I shouldn't be saying this, but she was just. 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.640 Kind of going all doing all of the things, all 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.360 of the things that we've seen on TV or in 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:04.839 real life. 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.799 Definitely in real life, I've seen this and I'm I'm 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.200 looking at motherfucker's real side eye, like, bro, you don't 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.200 want my opinion right now because I'm gonna hurt your feelings. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:14.799 And that's how he was looking to you, like. 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.719 Or he really wasn't processing what the fuck she was saying. 0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.440 Yeah he did. I think he was just so far 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.160 removed from it. 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.520 He was like like what, No, I think he was 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.880 thinking about it, really, yeah, I think he was thinking 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.640 about cross his mind. It hasn't until that moment. I 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.319 think when she said it, he stopped in thought and 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:38.040 was like, oh, ship, she might be right, she was right, 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.480 but she still had no right right ship to a 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.360 black man in front of a whole bunch of white people. 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.400 I'm gonna fuck what protest you're at. 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:50.920 Anyways, so we cut back to to Joe's house and Spike, 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.879 we meet Vernon Jefferson Peak. I forget the actors name 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.480 in real life, but apparently he's a big deal. I'm 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.479 not super familiar with him, but h Louis Louis brought 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.719 him some of his cult members home. So what did 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.520 you think about the conversations that went down during de fault? 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.000 It probably did? What did he do? 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:13.040 It was so so uh Joe had made Louise promise 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:14.239 that she would have dinner with him because she was 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.920 gonna leave him over the video. Oh no, no, I 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.239 remember this, Okay, yeah, yeah, that real weird dude came 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.319 around started looking in their house and stuff before I 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:22.840 go there real because I thought was one of the 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.000 funniest things for me was when dude went back to 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:26.840 his house and was having dinner with his dad and 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:27.759 explained it to him. 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:34.720 About you're a white you're white. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:35.640 Laugh. 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.440 I was laughing, So I was the only person in 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:39.680 the theater that laughed loud. 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.359 That was the only part I laughed at out good, 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:44.000 but that. 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.879 It happens it was like, bro, what are you doing? 0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.319 Like you're white, you were speaking out against your own race, 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.720 which is how we kind of are where we are today. 0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.960 A lot of that sentiment has started to kind of, 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.880 you know, replicate that's hilarious. But no, I just this 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.439 way started to turn for me in the sense of, Okay, 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:04.680 I'm picking up what you're putting down. 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:05.200 I get it. 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.120 Where are we gonna go with it? And then it 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.120 starts slowly started heading nowhere like this scene right here. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.359 None of this made sense to me. I didn't care 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.360 about it. I didn't care that his wife was crazy. 0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.600 I didn't care about the cold. I don't care if 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.560 she runs away. None of that mattered to me because 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.320 just Emma Stone hadn't put in enough time on screen 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.680 for me to be compassionate with the character like it 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.359 just it was weird. So you agree with that, Rod, 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:31.920 I think it was more so not about her, and 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.160 more and so about what it was gonna do to Joe. 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.600 I think that's that's what they That's what the hitch was. 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.840 It wasn't about emm the Stone. 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.600 It was like, how is it it was gonna affect 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.920 him and how he snaps and how he gets to 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.120 where he gets to in the movie. So that's why 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.319 I didn't really have a problem with it, because it 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.160 was more so about him. 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.799 Well you know, and also I think, again there's a 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.800 lot in here. So now you've bringing in the religious 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.560 aspect of it. So you know, she's our guess is 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.840 upset with Joe because her and dawna kind of like 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.200 anti government, you know, anti you know, all these conspiracy theories, 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:06.640 and here. 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.000 He is. 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.400 A running for to participate in this system. But he 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.879 wanted to do it and what he thought was his way, 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:16.400 and it was going to be the right way because 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.480 he was going to be anti government. That was his 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.719 whole thing, you know, in running against Ted and was 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.520 all on his trucks and stuff like that. So but 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.759 it also shows that people like that can also be 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.720 very vulnerable to outside institutions. 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:33.120 And here come this other guy. 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.399 Because she's consuming a lot of this stuff, so here 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.320 came this other guy who can take advantage of somebody 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.480 that's longing and looking for somebody else that's vulnerable. She 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.120 has a mom that's instilling a lot of these thoughts 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.040 and ideas in her head, and she's formulating her own 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.360 and then she goes through what sounds like a traumatic event, 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:55.400 so she could easily be, you know, possibly manipulated, and 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.880 here he comes. So then you have this cult like 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:05.440 religious act respect of virus now present in the movie. 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:10.680 So I slightly disagree with y'all. I think this whole 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.200 scene was all about Louise. I don't think it really 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.319 had anything much to do with Joe at all. This 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.000 was really a catalyst for us to figure out what's 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.560 going on with Louise, because prior to this, we don't 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.319 know what happened to Louise. We know she had some 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.480 kind of trauma, but we don't know the details at all. 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:32.040 But when Vernon. 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.400 Starts talking about he was one of ten kids that 0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.799 was strip naked and they were sent out and their 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.960 dad was gonna hunt them, and you know, but he escaped, 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.120 and then Louise starts talking about pedophiles and she starts 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.839 hinting that it was her father that touched her. So 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.319 that's why I didn't really like this, because it was 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.759 just like, I'm with Spike more than I think I've 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.759 ever been with Spike. She had not put in enough 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.080 screen time for me to really care that much about 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:10.560 how this affects the story because if we had been 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.160 given a movie where it's a standard Emma Stone performance, 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:19.640 which is typically fucking great, then I would have been 0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.239 far more interested with what happened. But she's barely been 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.920 in the film, and when she is there, it only 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.520 seems like she's there to service Joe. So it's like, 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.400 I don't care really, So but when she starts talking 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:37.799 about the fact that you know she was touched in 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:43.440 some way, and then you know, if you couple that 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:47.840 with how Dawn treats the Dead Father like she's so 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:53.200 worshiping of this man, it was like, Bro, you're throwing 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.920 all these things into this film only for you to 0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.480 drop them shits off a cliff with not even a 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.960 book in the water, because we don't know anything and 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:08.080 you took it nowhere. So this whole shit irritated the fuck. 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.080 Out of me. So I. 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:15.680 Because even even Joe asked when she fell asleep. I 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.799 first I thought the guy. I thought the Colt leader 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:23.160 was lying about. And I thought when she was telling 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:27.120 that story, she was talking about Ted, and and oh 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:30.880 you thought for that, yeah I did. I thought she 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.880 was talking about Ted and not her dad. Until Joe 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.759 asked the question, I was like, oh, I probably, but 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.880 then we kind of moved on. But I think that 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:44.359 was enough to get her away from from Joe, which 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.680 is where I I'm with Ride on this. It served 0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:52.759 as a trigger, another trigger point for Joe later on 0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:54.680 in the movie, but yeah, now his wife is gone. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.600 It does. But I think I was disagreeing with the 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.840 with the idea that this didn't really have anything to 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.120 do with anybody but Joe, like, I don't think if 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.040 you if we had this and maybe you didn't say 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.839 that exact phrase, if we didn't have this scene, I 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.799 don't think we would have the idea that Louise was 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.000 touched by anybody really like that. She kind of made 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:14.680 a reference to this earlier in the film when they 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.759 were at the dinner table, but she didn't make it 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.719 very clear until this scene. So I feel like they 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.520 brought Vernon in here just for this. And at the 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.280 end of the day, I'm not saying I don't obviously, 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.600 so somebody says anything stupid, I'm not saying I don't 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:34.600 care about women being assaulted. I just didn't particularly care 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.359 in this movie because it was like, I don't even 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.959 really know how she fits in with this story because 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.319 she hasn't done anything that still circles back to Joe, 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.680 even that part, because that's what he later on in 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:49.160 your notes. I'm sure that's what he uses for his campaign. Yeah, 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:51.520 I know, but I'm saying, but I'm saying this had 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.600 to do with Louise. What I'm saying is that if 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.440 this scene had not been there, then Joe would have 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.960 had nothing to even react to. Yeah, which is why 0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.200 I was there. Maybe I'm not following you. 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.040 I'm saying it's the scene is still needed, Yeah, to 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:08.160 set up what happens with Joe later. 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:09.840 Sure, Yeah, that's all I'm saying. 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.240 I'm not saying it's just solely that we get something 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.920 out of it, because that circles back later to when 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:15.560 he sees her. 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:16.080 Whatever. 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.160 But I thought you were saying this was all about Joe. No, 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.759 it sets up Joe for later, right. I used it 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.080 as a setup for Joe later. I looked at it. 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:27.680 I didn't even look that deep into it. 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.120 It's all I'm saying, like, like, I do feel like 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.920 Emma Stone was unutilized here in this movie, but this 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.600 what that to this extent too. 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.279 Where she was, you know, used to set up the 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.759 rest of his story. Okay, gotcha, sol Yeah, I'm with 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.000 you on that, And that was again part of my issue. 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.120 It's like, why are y'all doing everything to fucking service Joe, 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.080 Like even Pedro Pascal. It's like, Bro, as good of 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:54.000 an actor as he is, all he's doing is being 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:55.320 like a fucking half assed. 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:56.560 Sidekick for this story. 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.920 This shit aggravated me anyway. So after he watches a 0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.839 video of Portland police in a gunfight with Antifa, there's 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.640 a conversation amongst the cops about what's going on, and 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:11.040 we have Guy, the white cop. He's asking Michael if 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.239 he understands it. 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:14.640 He was so. 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:20.399 Condescending throughout this whole film. Guy he had a white 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.680 dude from a Yellowstone. 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.440 Uh, it was. 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:25.960 It was. 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.480 It was irritating, but it was also good how he 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.640 was doing it, because he was coming off as if 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.760 he did it like he was being genuine in asking 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:37.920 these like condescending asked questions. 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:41.600 You don't think he was. I think he was genuinely 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:42.359 that stupid. 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:43.840 Spike, that's what they were trying to portray. 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:45.799 Well, I don't know for a fact, but that's how 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.760 I took it. I don't think he was being condescending, 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.360 because condescending typically applies some sort of knowledgence. 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:50.880 Got it. 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:55.239 I think that this dude is really that stupid where 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.120 he's like, I don't understand this. 0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.640 Do you get it? I mean, you're black? Do you 0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:01.600 under understanding it? Can you explain it to me? 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:02.160 Okay? 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:05.799 That makes yeah, that makes sense, y'all, y'all are y'all 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:06.680 are problem was. 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.960 A small country town isolated from the world, and all 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.000 of this stuff is being they're being exposed to it, 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:20.600 you know, via social media and television, so yeah, and 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:23.080 then it hit is the highest level of it, yeah, 0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.800 and eventually infects that town in his own way as well, 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.840 So he he doesn't know what the fuss going on 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.799 because they don't have that they haven't really had to 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:35.480 deal with that ship. So he's like, and I'm sure 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:37.840 kind of what where I was asking earlier, Like there 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.279 are a lot of towns that just go about their 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.480 own damn way, don't care about the outside world, and 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.919 then they don't understand why people are reacting the way 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:49.040 that they are. So that's why he went to the 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.640 black I was like, do you understand maybe you can 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.480 share some insight because you're black. So you you can relate. 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.320 The question I have is that that Portland story was 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.759 made up, right, Shi, it was. 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.600 Real about what happened in actual real life. Yeah, they 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.640 took over the town for a while, ye'all didn't. I 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:08.080 don't remember. 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.280 I don't. I didn't either. That's what took over a town. 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:16.360 You've been here, shootout like that that happened. 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:18.080 I don't remember. I don't remember. 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.359 Okay, let me look this up, he asked him. 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.200 Did he tell him at one point I didn't even 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:27.279 see you as black before this that comes in later. 0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:31.480 Yes, all right, So let's go ahead and get to 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:33.920 the to the part where Brian's telling Michael to take 0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:34.400 a knee. 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:36.839 Kim, would you. 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.800 Where did you get from this part? And was it 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.840 weird when all the white people started to kneel? 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:43.920 Yeah, it was very weird. 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.440 It was very weird, weird that they started to take 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.040 a knee. And this was like when they was in 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.840 a row. This is before the riot part happened, right, 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:53.360 because remember they threw the window. 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.520 Because remember Joe was going to his campaign. 0:53:57.760 --> 0:53:59.759 Okay, I think because I think they told him to 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.680 settle down, and this was the way they told him. Yeah, 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.760 I think in the background those argue that busted windows. 0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.960 I think so, yeah, because it was getting out of hand. 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:07.560 It was chaos. 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.919 Remember the first time he ran into them, they were 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.040 That's when Sarah was yelling at him, and then they 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:15.880 took me, right. 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.359 I think, I think this is all the same. 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:20.960 There was no There were two different protest parts. There 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:24.560 was one part where Sarah was chastising Michael about why 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:26.480 are you on that side? But then there was another 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:31.160 part where they were basically all kind of arguing with Michael. 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.000 They were picking up Michael in both protest scenes. 0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:35.439 So we're talking about the second one. 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:36.120 The second one. 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.880 Okay, this is the one where David gets involved, and 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:41.120 David's the one that's chastising Michael. 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:46.120 Now okay, okay, yeah, because because also yeah okay, So 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:47.480 so at this point then we see. 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.680 The are not David Bryan, I don't know, the. 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:51.239 Homeless guys started to go through. 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:51.640 Yes. 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.480 So now this whole b l M. 0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.399 Liberal sort of thing that they're doing is basically been 0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.839 You can see that as being effected with this sort 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.120 of stuff from the outside world as well. So they're 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.080 doing all of this stuff and yelling at Michael and 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.480 all this other stuff. Ted's son is being a dick 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:16.200 talking about what his dad did to you. 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:19.560 Know, his wife. Yeah, just all very disrespectful. 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:24.440 And Brian, who did this for his own completely selfish reasons, 0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:30.640 you know, is losing because because I forgot Joe said 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.040 something to the son what's his name, Eric, Yeah, and 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:34.840 made him cry. 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.440 He went off to cry Sarah. So he's being. 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.040 Consoled over there, and Brian's looking at that. It's like, 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:44.600 what the fuck is going on? Like, I'm supposed to 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.880 be the one that's kind of because he's. 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.319 The one that started this whole shit. He's the one 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:50.040 that started the. 0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:54.240 Protest, so he's jealous, and his jealousy leads to another 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.319 part that happens later on in the movie. But for 0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.160 him to sit there and get in his face and 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.719 try to tell him what he should do, and he 0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.840 doesn't understand when he's not even a real believer in 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.759 the cause himself, he's only doing that for his own 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.359 selfish reasons. It's like, bro, what the fuck? But this 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:13.759 is what happens. Sometimes you do have people in this 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:18.240 movement that were in there for nefarias or alternative reasons. 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.600 They're not even they don't even care about the ship. 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.320 They're just there to service their own their own personal 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.040 games and needs, and that's what this guy was doing. 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.959 M Spike was wearing all the white people. Neil. Yes, 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:34.719 it was reminded me of that picture of Congress and 0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:36.280 everybody was like what. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.560 So it definitely reminded me of that this is how 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.520 we protest, this is how fuck off. 0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:43.799 Man. 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.799 This is a bunch of yeah, yeah, that happened in 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.160 August of twenty twenty, and the teeth thing important. 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:50.640 What what town? 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:56.480 I'll later, but I did two people die to activists 0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:58.520 were killed by police. 0:56:58.960 --> 0:56:59.120 Bro. 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:04.319 I that's amazing that we're still walking around, man, black 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:05.040 fols shooting up. 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.880 The police said, no, it was Antifa. That was like 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.960 typical Antifa members were were not members, but you know 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.720 people that represent Antifa are usually white. 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:17.160 I thought they kind of started to blend the two together, connect. 0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:20.120 The two the Republicans because they started they didn't know 0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.440 what the fuck Antifa even was, so they were trying 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.680 to make it seem like it was an organization, just 0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.400 like Black Lives Matter, which y'all all fell for. This 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:33.600 is an organization, which it's not, just like BLM is 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:37.320 not an organization it's a mindset. So it's antifa. Antifa 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:41.960 just means anti fascist. I could be considered an Antifa member, 0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:46.959 but there's no fucking card, there's no fees, news, there's 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.960 no membership. It's just do you do you think that 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:51.400 fascists are terrible? 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:51.800 Yes? 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:53.000 Cool, you're Antifa? 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:55.600 Yeah, I remember all that. But they work connect the 0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.160 Antifa into the Black Lives Matter. 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.439 They were the same. We did it in here, right, 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.560 I don't remember. Maybe, well yeah they did. They did. 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.840 We'll get to that. Yes, you're right, Spike, they did. 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:13.400 But anyway, all right, uh, Rod was weird when Joe 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.240 recorded that video saying Ted sexually abused Louise and got 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:16.680 her pregnant. 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.400 Force to the aboth the kid, and why did he 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:18.760 do that? 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.760 It was absolutely weird. He was just trying to get leverage. 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.800 He thought that was gonna a scandal, would would give 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:30.280 him leverage to uh, to get ahead of him in 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.880 the in the in the running, but it, you know, 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:38.200 ended up just kind of backfiring on him. Honestly, I 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:41.440 was gonna bring up something else before this part. Mm hmmm, 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.000 because we didn't. We didn't talk about like when he 0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.600 decided to campaign and he was he drew on the 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:47.960 board because that comes around later. 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:49.680 Yeah, I'm trying to skip over I got you, I 0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:50.400 got you. 0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:54.440 It just comes up later. But but anyway, so. 0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.600 Yeah, it seemed really weird. 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.160 Yeah, it was a really weird vibe what he was doing. 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.840 Even the people in there just like you know what 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.640 I'm saying, like, why are you you know, bringing up 0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:07.440 of that? But but now I feel like people that 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:08.800 that's another glimpse of stuff. 0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.280 Like people use that type of thing too to. 0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:15.040 Get ahead of their they're running there, the person they're 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:19.240 running against, They'll they'll use like these allegations and and 0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:20.000 things like that. 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:21.760 Yeah, so you know, it. 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:23.360 Was very true. Like I said, true to life. I 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.680 didn't I didn't realize. I didn't know why he was 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.920 just being so direct with this movie. 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:29.280 I was. 0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.440 I was really the whole time looking for is there 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.120 a deeper thing that I'm supposed to be catching because 0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:37.760 this is just you're just giving us a glimpse at 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:39.800 how how politics and all this stuff. 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.840 Goes, well, just the world of humanity in general. But 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:44.920 I was really trying to figure out, like, wait, why 0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.520 did you just say that? But I think you know, 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.200 Joe was driven by ego and Joe. 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:51.720 I mean, one of the. 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.040 Things he said when he walked in was like, oh, 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.360 I thought it was gonna be bigger. Like his campaign 0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:59.400 doesn't work. People aren't latching onto any to what he's doing. 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.960 So now he's like, well, let me try to go 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:05.520 to a scandal. And he probably he just heard that 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:09.040 message too from the religious guy, right, this came after that, 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:13.120 so maybe maybe he saw the cult leader use it 1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:15.200 and it worked for him, so maybe he was trying 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.720 to use that for his own Babe. I'm just now 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:20.160 thinking about this now. I din't think about you know, 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.840 at the time, the dots. 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:28.120 The story he told what was the pedophiles, because I 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:29.800 don't know why he did it, And I was like, 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:31.480 why the fuck you even do that? He did that 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.040 because again, he doesn't like being out of control. He 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.840 doesn't like the fact that everyone's just kind of like 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:40.360 overtaking what he thinks should be his. He wants the 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.880 political power in that town, but Ted is clearly winning now, 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.880 BLM is here, the Blacks Lives Matter is now here. 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.240 He doesn't like that ship, so he's like, what the 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:53.440 fuck can I do? Boom, I'm gonna use my wife's 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:56.120 trauma to further my political career. 1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:58.480 Yeah, it's horrible. 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:01.080 Was it weird spy that Louise left and made a 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:02.320 video saying Joe was lying? 1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:06.000 Definitely and for her to stay gone too, like that 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:08.760 being a final straw that breaks the camel's back and 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:12.240 her not wanting it into public consumption like that and 1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:14.800 him not caring about that at all. That was one 1:01:14.840 --> 1:01:16.760 of the biggest that this is when it really really 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:18.520 was turning for me. I was like, what's the motive? 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.800 Cause at one point in time, like you said, it 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:22.760 seemed like political power. Then it just seemed like I 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.760 just want to be popular and on top and like 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:27.840 I'll do everybody, which led to the rest of the 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:28.760 shit that I didn't. 1:01:28.520 --> 1:01:32.000 Get what she was So I was still confused by 1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.920 this whole her whole storyline, because I was like, Okay, 1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:38.040 she made the video, she doing this to save face, 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:41.160 like cause it made it seem like don was just 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.160 lying about the whole thing because maybe she had some 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:47.320 reservation about her daughter being in this relationship and then 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:50.160 she made the video or was all of that shit 1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:50.760 just made up? 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:55.880 Which shit? Just the whole thing with Ted and Louise. 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:56.840 Yeah, all that was made up. 1:01:56.880 --> 1:01:59.880 Louise was molested by her father, so that's why Don 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:00.880 was covering it up. 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:04.640 So Don got it because she was sixteen, right, I 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:07.120 don't remember how old she was, so Don was. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:11.480 Using Ted to cover up with got him? Cool? Kay? 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:12.120 Right now? 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:16.400 Don did not want anything to besmirch the memory of 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:19.760 her beloved husband, which is why we saw his picture 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:23.120 like large. But you see Luise doesn't fuck with that. 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:24.880 She's not looking at it and talking about, oh I 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:30.120 missed my dad, you know, excuse me? Damn uh she is. 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:34.280 She is tired of the mom's ship. She's been under 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:37.240 her mom's thumb forever. The mom has been covering it up. 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:39.240 She can't take it anymore. So that's why she leaves 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:42.200 and she puts the video on saying that Joe was lying. 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:43.360 Got it? Okay? 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:49.680 Yeah? 1:02:50.920 --> 1:02:53.520 Rob? What'd you think about what went down when Joe 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:55.720 was sent to Ted's house for the noise complaint? 1:02:57.160 --> 1:02:59.120 What do I think went down? What do you think 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:00.360 about what went down? 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:05.360 No? 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:07.880 No, no, no no no no no no no. 1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:12.360 I was I was just trying to process. 1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:13.360 Like I knew this was going to happen. I knew 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:14.600 he was going to turn it off and he was 1:03:14.640 --> 1:03:16.120 just gonna turn it back on. I don't know why 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.040 I knew that was going. 1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:18.360 To have this basic storytelling. 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:19.120 Yeah, yeah, I was. 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:20.400 Just like, he's just going to turn it back on, 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:21.440 like whatever, whatever. 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:27.520 What I did not expect to happen like twice did? 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:29.520 He said like two or three times it was a 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:34.480 bitch slap too, that it wasn't even hard. That's what 1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:41.640 it was, like a bitch that's like, yeah, it was 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:46.400 like it didn't, it didn't. Joaquin's amazing acting skills. He 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:49.840 was just like he responded like how anyone would respond 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:53.280 if somebody slapped in your mouth. I think I got 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:56.000 a natural reaction of like a shove or something, you 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:57.200 know what I'm saying. I think that would be my 1:03:57.320 --> 1:03:58.000 natural reaction. 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:01.400 I guess for us. Yeah, but JA came then, I 1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:03.439 guess Joe wasn't. I guess. 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:07.240 Yeah, he striked me a little bit, as somebody would 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:09.120 have like tried to bunk back a little bit. 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:09.640 Not me. 1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:14.880 Really, you saw him fighting the homeless dude earlier, right, 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:15.800 don't wonder that's. 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:17.680 Why he slapped because he knew He's like, he knew 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:18.320 he was a bit ship. 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:20.320 I don't think Ted is a fighter like that either. 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:22.440 But I think Ted was just tired of Joe ship. 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:24.680 He was tired of Joe ship. But I forgot about 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:26.120 he witnessed Joe. 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:28.880 He did, but also Ted, Joe lost a lot of 1:04:28.960 --> 1:04:30.520 leverage once that video came out. 1:04:30.680 --> 1:04:36.400 Yeah, it was a wrap. Yeah, and remember he didn't ye. 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:38.960 Remember he walked into his speech. 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.720 I thought it was gonna be a lot larger crowd 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:45.440 here than what it was and Ted got houses packed. 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:49.440 Everybody's at okay, it makes more sense. So Joe now 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.560 realizing he's because completely lost. 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:52.120 I had Doe. 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:54.840 I would like noding to this point, but the smack 1:04:54.920 --> 1:05:00.600 woke me up and I was like, he woke too, 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:03.240 I thought exactly. I was like, okay, so something there 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:05.960 has to be some resolution to this. I was surprised 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:07.880 when he walked away and didn't do nothing, but it did. 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:08.560 Now. 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:10.720 I was up and like locked in because I knew 1:05:10.760 --> 1:05:11.680 something was gonna happen. 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:13.640 Well, it was crazy because isn't that assault, Like you 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:17.160 assaulted a police officer, which is crazy in front of 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:20.880 all of these people. Yeah, but also Ted has leverage 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:25.360 to do that because he was just accused of something 1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:27.760 that he didn't do. The accuser came out and said 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:28.720 it never happened, and. 1:05:29.520 --> 1:05:31.840 Yes it's assault of a police officer, But who the 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:35.520 fuck has Joe's back except for guy. Everybody in that 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:39.520 town fucks with Ted, even with the mask mandate. Shit, 1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:43.240 the town fucks with Ted. And Joe knows that Ted 1:05:43.320 --> 1:05:45.360 has the money behind him because he's a part of 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:47.960 this whole committee that's trying to install these data centers. 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:53.240 So Joe can't do shit to Ted. But who Joe 1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:58.800 could do some shit to is the uh, houseless house 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:02.080 free guy. Uh what do you think about when. 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:03.120 Went down at the bar Spike? 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:06.520 This was was all the way out of conspiral, out 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:08.000 of control for me, and I was like, bro, what 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:09.800 is happening right now? 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:12.520 Because one. 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:15.480 After we've sit here and talked about it, and it 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:18.120 leading up to every all of those frustrating things. 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:20.520 I get where he shoots the police. 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:23.280 I mean the homeless dude, and maybe tries to dispose 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:24.920 of the body, which he probably didn't have to do. 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.200 That's why I was like, why is he doing all 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:29.080 of this? He could just say he did something like 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:31.560 police do all the fucking time, and then they'll come 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:35.160 get the body and you're good. But yeah, this was 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:38.000 from here on out. I didn't understand anything. 1:06:39.520 --> 1:06:41.680 From here on out. I was like, bro, what is happening? 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:42.600 What about you? 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:44.760 Rod Nah? 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.640 I think this is probably like some of the most 1:06:47.720 --> 1:06:50.120 interesting parts of the of the movie for me, Like 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:53.040 I understand what you're saying, Spike. It just it started 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:56.560 getting like super chaotic. But this was interesting because I 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:59.120 thought it would it would get into some some more. 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:01.520 This is the actual like like this, we got into some. 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:03.400 Ship and it was forced action though like all of 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:05.520 this stuff, like he could have just left him there. 1:07:05.560 --> 1:07:07.680 I don't know if it was forced because it was 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:09.600 a build up to it, and then he had just 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:11.000 lost So this is him snapping. 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:12.200 Yeah, this is him snapping. 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:15.920 This is him breaking, and and I like, I fucked 1:07:15.960 --> 1:07:18.320 with the break like this, this was more so what 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:19.760 I expect to see when I come to. 1:07:19.720 --> 1:07:20.840 An ari Astra film. 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.840 I got, okay, this, this this is what I what 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:26.960 I what I came for. After an hour and see, 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:28.640 I would have been here for the break, but something 1:07:28.680 --> 1:07:30.800 happened later on that made it seem like it was 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:31.720 more diabolical. 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:33.960 He had a plan and I know we'll get to it, 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:35.840 but like, are you crazy? 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:37.960 Are you crazy, and did you snap or was this 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:41.120 a pro like this this out that I was about 1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:43.080 to say, it was both. So it was just like, damn, 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:45.000 you didn't think that he was actually thinking about it 1:07:45.040 --> 1:07:48.200 like this, because even when he told the black officer 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:50.520 of the shoot, it's like he thought these things through 1:07:50.560 --> 1:07:52.760 a little bit exactly. But then it was also presented 1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:53.840 as oh, he just snapped. 1:07:53.960 --> 1:07:58.840 Yeah, yeah, so's it's both though it's both, which which 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:02.800 is kind of what happens like right with with with 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.720 with like terrorist actions or people that that snap. Right, 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:08.840 It's like it's both. It's like they got to a 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:11.480 breaking point, but they also thought it through a little bit, 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:13.720 you know what I'm saying. So it's very it was 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.640 very like, I don't want to say reminiscent to that, 1:08:16.680 --> 1:08:19.040 but like you know, it was very on on on. 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:23.120 I think his his decision to cover it up was 1:08:23.200 --> 1:08:25.000 interesting because they I don't think he did a good job. 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:29.360 You know, you floated a body down a river that 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:32.760 should if it doesn't seem reserved somewhere, somebody's gonna find it. 1:08:33.040 --> 1:08:36.200 I didn't understand that part, but the way he kept 1:08:36.200 --> 1:08:37.240 staring at him, I was like. 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:40.040 I think he's gonna shoot this bom I did too. 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:41.519 And he shot him. 1:08:41.600 --> 1:08:45.360 I was like, okay, but who really cares about you know, 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:47.599 people like that, so you can easily get away with that. 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:51.400 So I was like, okay, well, you know, and you know, 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:53.719 he started kind of digging the bullets out and stuff 1:08:53.760 --> 1:08:57.719 like that. But every since that guy came into town, 1:08:57.840 --> 1:09:02.320 shit just kind of went crazy. He so, and now 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:05.840 Joe is at his breaking point because his whole world 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:09.519 is crazy, is basically turned upside down too. 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:13.120 So, and it started with him wrestling on the ground 1:09:13.120 --> 1:09:14.160 with with that with that. 1:09:14.120 --> 1:09:17.720 Guy, you know, speaking of that, like, I thought it 1:09:17.760 --> 1:09:21.360 was also I think brilliance a strong word, but I 1:09:21.360 --> 1:09:23.320 thought it was. I thought it was it was cool 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:26.120 to see him gradually get sicker, like he was just 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:28.439 cough here and there. That cough just kept getting worse 1:09:28.479 --> 1:09:30.839 and worse. And so I thought that was an interesting 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:33.439 note that they did in this movie and attest to, 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.439 you know, the acting skills of Joaquin, like showing that 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:39.280 he's getting you know, sicker and sicker. 1:09:39.600 --> 1:09:43.320 Yeah, because it correlates to with with like the progression 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:45.160 of the movie in terms of like the infection of 1:09:45.200 --> 1:09:48.120 the virus and everything that's going on here on on 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:52.400 all the different levels, so you know, so he kills him, 1:09:52.600 --> 1:09:53.439 and you. 1:09:53.400 --> 1:09:54.639 Know, and that was it. 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:57.920 So it made sense for him to He couldn't do 1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:00.880 shit to Ted, so he took it out somebody that 1:10:00.880 --> 1:10:04.200 couldn't defend themselves. But that's also yelling at him as well, 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:08.120 so that was his way of acting out and snapping, 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:10.960 and he just he just killed him, and that's the 1:10:11.000 --> 1:10:12.200 way he's taking his anger up. 1:10:14.000 --> 1:10:14.240 Yeah. 1:10:14.320 --> 1:10:17.360 I didn't like the scene either, because I was I 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:19.280 was thinking the same thing. Spike was just saying, why 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:21.400 are we bothering to clean up this body? What are 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.439 we doing? I thought he was gonna shoot the homeless 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:26.600 man and then frame Ted for doing it because it 1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:30.280 was at Ted's bar, But instead he fucking pulls the 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:34.160 bullets out, takes homeless man drump, dumps him in a river, 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:40.040 and then I was like why, And if I remember correctly, 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:43.320 I don't even think this came back around later after 1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:46.360 Ted is killed, So I was just like, what the fuck? 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:50.559 But did y'all notice what the homeless man was saying? 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.160 I can't remember, but I was definitely wanted to pay 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:55.559 attention to what he was saying because at this I 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:58.679 started to realize that this homeless man kind of played 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:00.799 a role in the movie. 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.519 But what was he saying. 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:05.760 He was saying, I'm gonna infect everyone, was it? And 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:09.280 then he also says when he's drinking the liquor, he says, 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:13.160 everything tastes the same m m oh. So I was like, oh, 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:17.679 he has COVID. Okay, so he is the COVID monster 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:21.719 And I guess this is when he infects Joe, which 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:25.240 I don't care. So it cuts to Ted's house where 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:27.760 he's arguing with his son about a purse, and some 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:28.400 shit went down. 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:31.799 Spike was just enough action for you? Hell no, because 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:33.479 I don't know. 1:11:33.520 --> 1:11:34.320 It just seemed like. 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:38.760 Him doing it out of the and I don't know 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:39.800 it's out of the blue, but. 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:42.080 I didn't see. 1:11:42.120 --> 1:11:43.639 I didn't know that he had thought it out well 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:46.080 enough to do what he did later and frame somebody 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.559 for it. I thought it was part of just the 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:51.599 trajecty of him spiraling and he's like, okay, I killed once. 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:53.920 Now I can just go shoot them from long range. 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:57.200 And it just wasn't suspenseful enough for me, Like it 1:11:57.240 --> 1:12:00.920 was just like it seemed random as hello, you agree 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:01.080 with that? 1:12:01.200 --> 1:12:01.439 Rob? 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:04.400 No again? 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:07.360 And just didn't seem it didn't seem random to me. 1:12:07.600 --> 1:12:09.479 It seemed like a man that got to a breaking 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:11.720 That's what we're talking aboutready, It seemed like a man 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:13.200 that got to a breaking point. 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:16.519 I was like, I said, it was a shock, dude. 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:18.719 These were the old ship moments I was talking about, 1:12:18.840 --> 1:12:21.320 like I did say oh shit, like like when I. 1:12:21.280 --> 1:12:23.120 Was like, oh, man, he just killed this motherfucker, like 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:24.360 you know what I'm saying, and oh. 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:25.559 He just killed his son. 1:12:25.600 --> 1:12:29.040 Even if Song's reaction was was crazy, it was realistic, 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:31.120 like when he missed him the first time and he's like, 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:32.759 oh shit, he tried to get away, but he actually 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:35.400 end up shooting his ass too. Did you immediately think 1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.559 it was him? No, I thought it was the I 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:41.680 thought it was the black cop because they had showed it. 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:43.880 Because because they showed him, he was practiced early. 1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:45.040 He was practicing earlier. 1:12:45.120 --> 1:12:46.800 Yeah, so it was. And by now he has saw 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:47.559 the picture too. 1:12:47.520 --> 1:12:49.880 Yeah, yeah, the picture, so it was it was a misdirection. 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:53.280 They originally thought it was him because he thought it 1:12:53.320 --> 1:12:56.200 was a black eye too. No, okay, because he was 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:59.240 bragging too, Joel about how you know he was progressing, 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:01.000 and I didn't think did the black cop will be 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:01.720 able to do it? 1:13:01.760 --> 1:13:05.280 But then my mind media went to Joe. Yeah, I 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:06.000 didn't think it was Joe. 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:08.120 When I saw him behind the rifle, I was like, oh, ship, 1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:08.679 that was Joe. 1:13:09.520 --> 1:13:10.720 I didn't think he was gonna go. I didn't think 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:11.800 he was gonna snap like that. 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:14.240 What'd you think him? 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:18.000 Yeah, I'm I'm with Rod, I was. I didn't see 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:19.280 this coming at all. 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:22.360 I thought we were just done with with the homeless guy. 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:22.720 I was. 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:25.519 I was like, so when testing and there talking and 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:28.040 then the bullet come through, I was like, what the fuck? 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:32.280 And then was a was tend like, oh, Ted has 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:35.040 lost it. I mean, Joe has lost it, But where 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:36.880 the fuck is this going? Like, how's he gonna throw 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:40.880 this up? Because you are his primary like opponent in 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:43.720 this whole thing. You don't like him, so everybody will 1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:45.519 suspect you, and you just got slapped. I think that 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:47.599 was the thing that confused me. You just got slapped 1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:51.160 around of everybody, and now this guy, now you're shooting 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:55.200 this guy, everybody's gonna think it's you. So I'm thinking ahead. 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:57.800 I was like, this doesn't make any sense for why 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:00.320 he did this. And then he shot the other guy. 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:01.559 I was like, oh, you're not a good shot either, 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:03.880 but then he got him because but then I remember 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:05.760 he also was bragging like he's a really good shot. 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:07.240 He was like, oh yeah, you, and you ain't as 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:07.680 good as me. 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:09.360 So I was really curuous. 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:10.720 I was like, Okay, how the hell he's gonna get 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:12.720 out of this? And then you walked someone walked in 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:18.280 and like he's thorough. He got the shoes on, he's 1:14:18.439 --> 1:14:20.559 digging the bullets out, and then he had the paint. 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:21.880 I was like, what the fuck's he gonna paint? He's 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:24.000 gonna paint over the bullet. Oh know what he was doing? 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:29.560 But watch I didn't know what that was. 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:30.839 That was planted. 1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:35.240 So the purse was Sarah's purse. He put it there. 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:37.120 He put it, He broke in and put it there. Yes, 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:40.640 so this was That's where I'm with you, Spike. This 1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:43.599 was planned, and it was kind of planned to a 1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:48.920 meticulous point where it started to get a little ridiculous 1:14:48.960 --> 1:14:52.679 for me. But yes, he broke in put Sarah's purse there, 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:55.400 which I don't know where he got Sarah's purse. But 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:59.160 then after he kills Ted and Eric, he puts on 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:00.599 the walls, no. 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:04.280 Justice, no peace, it's just the Black Lives batter check. 1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:09.040 Yes, so that is to direct the Black Lives Matter 1:15:09.760 --> 1:15:13.040 folks or like make them the main suspect. 1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:17.760 But so yeah, so they should have did better, Shuan, 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:19.880 how much time, Like was it right after he killed 1:15:19.920 --> 1:15:21.960 the homeless dad? Have no fucking because to come up 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:25.320 with this elaborate ass playing it just didn't. 1:15:25.400 --> 1:15:30.080 It was like, wait, he took the watch from the house, right, yeah. 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:30.960 And planted it. 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:33.479 But even doing the Black Lives Matter thing and knowing 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.840 that the black guy had been practicing his shot, it 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:38.280 seemed like he had been thinking about that for a while. 1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:40.120 It's like, I won't direct himness way. 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:42.880 I don't think he was. Well, actually, maybe you're right, Spike. 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:45.479 I never I never thought that he was trying to 1:15:45.560 --> 1:15:48.680 set Michael up until later. Yeah, I thought he was, 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:52.760 But that might be why he put Sarah's herst there 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:56.840 because he knew that. But that also doesn't really make 1:15:56.840 --> 1:16:03.080 any sense because everyone town didn't associate Michael with BLM. 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:05.280 He didn't, So actually, I don't think he was trying 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:05.960 to set Michael up. 1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:06.120 Then. 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:08.160 I really think he was trying to set up Sarah 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:11.520 because she was the main face of BLM. 1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:13.519 But then the sniper thing, they would be like, this 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:15.680 little girl can't snipe anybody. 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:18.360 I don't know that the sniper thing was an accident. 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:23.879 I think him, I know, but I think he missed 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:27.040 a casing. He only got two. He stepped on the 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:28.400 third one. That's why he couldn't find the third. 1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:31.800 No, what he's saying is, even if you're trying to Cara, 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.840 why would they think Sarah could snipe these two people. 1:16:36.080 --> 1:16:38.120 Only a few people in that town probably could do 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:39.720 that shot, even without the shaowcasing. 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:43.640 Yeah, and he hadn't seen the picture of Michael and 1:16:43.680 --> 1:16:46.479 Sarah yet. That happens later, So I don't know. 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.240 Actually, yeah, his means of killing him didn't make any 1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:50.519 sense to me. That's why I was trying to figure 1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:53.600 out how to hell when when it was revealed that 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:55.160 the note just no piece, I was like, how are 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:55.400 you going. 1:16:55.360 --> 1:16:57.960 To tee that to black lives? To black lives matter? 1:16:58.040 --> 1:17:00.559 When the shot, when the murder would have had to 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.120 happen inside the house, m. 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:05.280 They would have been outside the house. 1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:07.679 That's the point. It would have had to be an 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:10.800 actual sniper. Even if well, I guess unless they're just 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:13.360 shitty cops, and because he took the shell casings, they 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:17.320 wouldn't know that it had to be a maybe that's it. 1:17:17.680 --> 1:17:20.000 But at some point, when you do forensis of the 1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:22.439 whole area, you'll see the trajector like when you do 1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:24.960 the autopsy, you'll see the bullet came in from behind you. 1:17:25.080 --> 1:17:27.000 They gonna know that it came and broke the glass 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:28.720 and went through the window, so they would it was 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:29.480 a snipe. 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:34.320 Window just bow instead of somebody. I don't know this. 1:17:34.320 --> 1:17:36.240 This is this is where the movie just really started 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:37.800 to fall apart from me anyway. So I was just like, 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:41.800 all right, dog, I don't really this is stupid. The 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:44.880 conversation with Sarah and the cops, did y'all take anything 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:45.639 interesting from that? 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.800 I saw she was texting Michael. I could barely read 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:51.840 what she was saying. I think it was like the 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:53.320 cops are at my house or something like that. 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:53.719 Yeah. 1:17:54.120 --> 1:18:01.599 Yeah, she was basically explaining protests and why agitators want 1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:02.719 protests to be violent. 1:18:04.000 --> 1:18:05.800 That was the only thing very interesting I pulled from this. 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:09.800 Oh yeah, I had tuned up. I feel you, I 1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:10.400 feel you. 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:12.240 She wasn't even trying to read the text. 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:13.679 I tried to read the text. 1:18:13.680 --> 1:18:15.680 It was too small, my little raggedy ass theater, but 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:19.120 they wanted us to read the text. They I think 1:18:19.160 --> 1:18:20.880 that I was just not I was in the regular 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:23.400 ask I was. They don't have good screens there. It's 1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:27.519 like watching a big fucking tube TV. She was basically 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.040 saying that the cops want protesters to be violent, so 1:18:30.120 --> 1:18:32.639 old white people will support martial law when it happens. 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:37.120 The common theory of why they want this stuff to happen, 1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:40.600 why agitators are called in to make these things happen. 1:18:40.560 --> 1:18:44.840 Which shows that when you have this sort of counter intelligence, 1:18:44.880 --> 1:18:47.240 I can't go to the word, but when you have 1:18:47.320 --> 1:18:53.280 this opposite rhetoric, you have the violence that you had 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.880 in the other when somebody threw a rick window through 1:18:55.880 --> 1:18:59.280 that guy's house, then they looked at his protests, and 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:03.000 then you have cause to do the things that you're doing, 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.800 which is basically what she was explaining. But also again 1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:08.559 how these different thoughts and ideas can kind of grow 1:19:08.560 --> 1:19:13.520 in manifests and spread, you know, and just cause chaos among. 1:19:14.840 --> 1:19:16.440 Opposing factions. 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:19.000 All right, I'm gonna have to start combining things and 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:23.439 jumping along here. So Brian has an interview and he 1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:27.200 makes an implication that Michael may have done it because 1:19:27.200 --> 1:19:31.040 of the picture, so they immediately. 1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:32.920 Go and arrest Michael. 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:41.200 Then there's a conversation between Guy and Joe about BLM. 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:45.160 Do you remember that conversation where he's basically talking about 1:19:45.160 --> 1:19:49.839 Michael and how he didn't realize he didn't see Michael's 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:54.880 race until Black Lives Black's Lives Matter happened, and now 1:19:54.880 --> 1:19:56.920 he can't tell if he's more of an officer or 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:58.880 a black person. Rob, what did you think of that? 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:01.559 Yeah? 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:05.760 I mean yeah this Nah, Yeah, I don't know if 1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.880 this part really stuck out to me at all. 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:12.920 You know, it's it's pick a side, right, because this 1:20:13.000 --> 1:20:16.519 sort of started like earlier, some of a very simple 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:18.800 they're all watching it and they're all like this one unit, 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:19.880 we're all cops here now. 1:20:20.520 --> 1:20:21.519 And then later on. 1:20:23.040 --> 1:20:26.280 Yeah, yeah, it started to escalate. Then it was like okay, 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.480 well he's it's still it started to grow in manifest 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:35.600 and spread and now guys like, well shit, Michael, he 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:37.280 still doesn't know what the fuck going on? Michael, what 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:39.760 the do you understand it? Maybe can you help ride 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.960 some clarity? And then all of this happens, and then 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:45.040 it's like, well, shit, I don't know if he's black 1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:47.639 or a cop, Like, I don't know what what side 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.759 he's on. And then because he has this perceived idea, 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:54.000 well he says in it, and I can't remember exact 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:56.760 he said, well, because somebody was like, well tens, oh yeah, 1:20:56.840 --> 1:20:59.400 he said, tess and hispanic, So why would he kill 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:01.680 you know him? He was like, well, they said they 1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:05.719 hate everybody, they don't. 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:07.599 Care about themselves, so it would make sense. 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:11.600 But he's spreading this idea that he gotten from somewhere, 1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:13.800 you know, as all this stuff is coming in this town, 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:18.040 basically poisoning the thoughts of the city or this small town. 1:21:18.439 --> 1:21:20.120 But it was an interesting conversation. 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:23.200 I thought that that was about to be the premise 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:25.599 of the movie, how the black guy was a part 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:29.560 of the establishment and he wasn't really into it, and 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:31.960 then they turned this whole thing around him so quickly. 1:21:32.080 --> 1:21:35.400 As far as it being like you are a nigger, 1:21:35.439 --> 1:21:37.240 I knew it, like just I know, I thought that 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:40.280 was going to be it. So I think they did 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:42.559 it well to set him up to be arrested, because 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:44.800 it did look suspicious as far as if you were 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:47.479 looking from their perspective, but then I don't think that 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:49.719 they did enough with it from there, so it didn't 1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:52.759 really matter. Yeah, I kind of agree. 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:56.400 It was just like, like I liked the conversation and 1:21:56.400 --> 1:22:00.040 how the conversation happened about, you know, because cops do 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:01.640 you think that way, like are you more of a 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:04.519 black person or are you a fucking cop because they 1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:08.559 see cop as a race. They're so fucking delusional that 1:22:08.640 --> 1:22:11.120 cops think that way. So I did find this part 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:13.839 to be interesting, which again made this movie so fucking 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:17.640 frustrating because it's like, dude, you're like almost there with 1:22:17.720 --> 1:22:20.400 an interesting conversation, then you just fucking move away from 1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:25.799 it to some some more nothing ass bullshit. But yeah, 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:32.360 So a Butterfly, the Pleblo cop, he notices the marker 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:37.560 board in Joe's police station and he recognized the handwriting, 1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:40.839 which causes him to run back to Joe's house because 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:44.679 he thinks that Joe is involved. But while this is happening, 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:48.000 someone breaks Michael out of jail, which leads Joe and 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:49.800 Guy to find him in a valley in front of 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.280 a burning barrel with a drone in the sky. What 1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:53.839 did you think about what happened here, Rod. 1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:58.800 Yeah, this again. I thought this was interesting as well. 1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:00.679 I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Who are these 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:05.080 people and what's going on? I also thought it was 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:06.160 interesting before we got. 1:23:06.040 --> 1:23:11.320 Here with the the Native American. I guess it was 1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:16.200 that he didn't he didn't realize that it was part 1:23:16.200 --> 1:23:18.479 of their investigation too, because of where he shot the 1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:19.080 bullet from. 1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:23.280 Yeah, yeah it was. He It fucked up his whole situation. 1:23:23.000 --> 1:23:24.519 So he started kind of scrambling to get with it 1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:27.080 where he was. But uh, but this part right here, Yeah, 1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:28.680 I was just like, Yo, what the fuck is going on? 1:23:28.720 --> 1:23:30.520 Who are these people. 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:32.080 That? 1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:34.320 Because I think they show like a plane, a jet 1:23:35.000 --> 1:23:39.360 flying here, yeah, with a bunch of people in masks 1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:41.600 and ship. Yeah, but I figured that they were just 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:43.760 like extreamists or something like that or. 1:23:43.840 --> 1:23:46.599 Just man, yeah, just just some type. 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:49.880 Of group like that that came to this town too. 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:53.120 After seeing it, I guess did they make public news 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:56.320 and ship or what? Because how they had known about 1:23:56.320 --> 1:23:56.760 this town? 1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:57.160 Oh? 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:59.040 Did they make public news that this was happening. 1:23:58.760 --> 1:23:59.439 In the town? Yeah? 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:01.040 Yeah, yeah, so this people, Oh it did. 1:24:01.280 --> 1:24:03.880 It had to have because these people were sent to 1:24:03.960 --> 1:24:08.960 so I assumed that these were agitators. They were not 1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:13.920 actually quote unquote Antifa. These were agitators flying because Antifa 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:15.840 ain't got no fucking money for the goddamn jets and 1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:16.280 shit like. 1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:19.720 Okay, so all right, I missed all of that. 1:24:19.840 --> 1:24:22.839 Man, I don't know because I was wondering, like Joel Rodsons, 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:26.880 like who are these people? And I immediately went to 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:28.800 irritate it because it's like they're not even gonna take 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:30.760 time out to explain it, like it's just like it 1:24:30.800 --> 1:24:33.680 was really it was too subtle for me, and I 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:35.960 think it needed to be a lot more overt for 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:39.519 the final climax thirty minutes to be focused on them 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:41.599 trying to kill the sheriff. 1:24:41.640 --> 1:24:42.920 It's that that's crazy to me. 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:45.479 Yeah, And I was also wondering if that data center 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:50.000 was a part of the whole skin of that whole movement. 1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:52.200 I think that was just another because I think during 1:24:52.240 --> 1:24:55.679 twenty twenty also there was that situation where there were 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:58.960 centers being built on indigenous land. There were protests about 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:02.799 that too, So I think this was just fucking already 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:07.439 astri throwing a gumbo of just random ship that happened, 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:08.720 and it was like what's the point here? 1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:11.800 Can that would be a conspiracy too, like if that 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:15.320 if that company is trying to clear agitate this I'm 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.080 saying and just trying to you know, it's too much 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:18.600 shit going on here, But we want to get our 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:20.800 data center here though, so. 1:25:21.240 --> 1:25:24.160 It would make sense for them to fund it, which 1:25:24.200 --> 1:25:24.679 is why they. 1:25:24.560 --> 1:25:25.439 Had a case. 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:29.360 You just not anybody just has a JIT, but a 1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:30.960 fucking data center would have a JIT. 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:35.080 Yeah, they just lost Ted is a big part of 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:36.599 their plans and he no longer exist. 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:39.800 But also, white supremacists have money for jets, So I 1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:43.120 thought the whole time that it was a white supremacist group. 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:48.200 That was absolutely because this is the perfect thing to happen. 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:51.680 You put this on the news. Oh, Antifa showed up 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:53.759 and took over a small town and killed the sheriff 1:25:53.840 --> 1:25:57.519 and the mayor. Boom, you're good, which is why I think. 1:25:57.920 --> 1:25:59.400 I don't know if it's this part of the next 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:01.800 part when Show is driving and he sees that big 1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:06.160 statue and the statue says white supremacy on it, which 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:11.480 that didn't really either in my opinion, but burning crosses. 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:13.200 And that's when he was going to find Michael. 1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:18.680 So yeah, It was basically like plant planted to look 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:21.280 a certain way. Yes, it was planted. It was supposed 1:26:21.320 --> 1:26:28.000 to look like Antifa did this. I didn't really like 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:31.800 this though, But like, so, first off, I don't get 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:35.120 why Michael was speaking funny, like his voice was fucked up. 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.760 But then why the muffle go away after that? It did? 1:26:39.840 --> 1:26:41.640 I thought he was trying to do that so they 1:26:41.640 --> 1:26:43.240 wouldn't understand because. 1:26:43.040 --> 1:26:43.839 It was bugged. 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:45.080 Oh is that what it was? 1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:47.120 Yeah, he was trying to talk to where they couldn't 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.599 pick up what he was saying because they were recording 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:51.920 it because they showed a little video and they had 1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:52.840 to arrow. 1:26:53.640 --> 1:26:55.160 Yeah, I know, but I thought I thought they had 1:26:55.200 --> 1:26:57.040 some in his mouth to where he can he was doing. 1:26:57.680 --> 1:26:59.880 He speaks like he was when when what's his face 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.760 too close? He yells out like, don't like stop what 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:09.479 I've got what he's saying? He said, yeah, something like 1:27:09.520 --> 1:27:14.559 oh shit wow. But yeah, so Michael is speaking weird. 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:17.200 I'm glad you explained that because I didn't understand that part. 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:18.960 A guy walks closer. 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:21.439 To him and the explosion goes off on him. 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:27.080 Captain apparently he should yeah, sure, and then the fire 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:31.760 that ignites it spells out no peace, so that is 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:34.960 another reference to BLMS. This is them trying to frame 1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:40.360 BLM for everything. But then we get Joe. He's attacked 1:27:40.400 --> 1:27:42.000 in the street by a hit man. A hit man 1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:45.280 is chasing Joe down and real quick, I mean, I 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:46.840 guess we got to talk about this part. This leads 1:27:46.920 --> 1:27:49.519 Joe back home. Spike, what'd you think of the scene 1:27:49.680 --> 1:27:52.680 with Dawn where she sort of appears as Luis for 1:27:52.680 --> 1:27:53.800 a hot second. 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.040 I didn't take anything from this. I was wondering why 1:27:58.080 --> 1:28:00.120 the mom was even back. I know she said it. 1:28:00.760 --> 1:28:02.439 She went to the colt and was listening to some 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:04.519 of the beliefs and then they got too extreme for her, 1:28:05.080 --> 1:28:12.160 Which is this what she hopped in the bed with him. Yeah, 1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:14.000 I don't think I realized Don left together the cult 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:16.960 with Louise. I thought I thought her mom said she 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:19.040 went with and didn't started getting too radical, and that's 1:28:19.040 --> 1:28:19.880 when she came back. 1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:24.600 She said it. 1:28:24.680 --> 1:28:26.679 She said I was with her, and then she started 1:28:26.680 --> 1:28:31.240 talking like getting to earlier in the they. 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:31.840 Just talked about it. 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:35.000 That's why he was so surprised when she was there, gotcha, Yeah, 1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:36.320 And he was like, because she had been gone for 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:37.559 a while, but she was with her daughter. 1:28:37.680 --> 1:28:38.240 Gotcha. 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:40.680 Okay, I guess that makes more sense about why she 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.439 would be appearing as Louise and right, that's what he 1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:46.360 wants to be there, but instead it's old raggedy ass. 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:50.840 Dont anything for this or the next part. 1:28:51.200 --> 1:28:53.679 Well, I was trying to figure out what what Joe 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:56.920 was talking about it was, because now he's saying, uh, 1:28:57.160 --> 1:28:59.840 they've come to kill me. But then he held up 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:04.600 this phone was ringing and it was like it said restricted. 1:29:04.680 --> 1:29:08.320 He was like, see, So now I was wondering was 1:29:08.360 --> 1:29:11.719 he part of all of this ship from the jump 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:14.640 or did he get involved and then they were just 1:29:14.640 --> 1:29:16.360 trying to kill him because he had already did what 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:16.760 they did. 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:20.080 Joe, Yeah, no, I think what he was trying to 1:29:20.800 --> 1:29:23.680 hint at is like the Deep State was after him 1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:27.000 now because he knows it's not BLM. But had he 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:29.639 been in communication with the deep State prior to this? 1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:33.720 I got because he was liked killed they said, I 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:37.479 killed ted and now you know and now they're trying 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:38.840 to well maybe it was deep State. 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:40.120 Yeah, you're right, you're right. 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:42.160 So maybe they approached him and was like, well you 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:43.360 can have the same power with him. 1:29:43.360 --> 1:29:44.800 He just probably added on to it. 1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:48.120 If that's part of the story, I'm this movie dropped 1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:53.040 down because they needed to have said that shit explicitly. 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:55.200 Because Joe is not very intelligent. No, he's not. 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.960 So I think I assumed that the phone said restricted, 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:01.439 and Joe was like, see because it was a restricted 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:03.320 phone and we're calling him right while the guy was 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:06.479 hunting him down. That's what Hot's how I took it. 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:10.560 But thank you for listening to the frames per Second podcast, 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:13.920 where pressing play today taking time out of your day 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:16.160 meant so much to us. But if you would like 1:30:16.200 --> 1:30:20.000 even more content, head over to patreon dot com forward 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:23.799 slash frames per Second, where you can decide between two tiers, 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:27.439 our Director's Cut tier and our Bootleg tier and make 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:29.400 the decision on what kind of power you would like 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.160 to have as a patron. 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Like, 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:43.360 I get it, I understand that that could happen in 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:45.679 the movie, but I would have liked more explanation before 1:31:45.720 --> 1:31:48.520 I get invested into this shootout. 1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:50.160 What about you, Rod? 1:31:52.360 --> 1:31:55.840 At first it seemed ridiculous, but it started getting I 1:31:55.840 --> 1:31:59.000 started getting invested because of the because it felt like 1:31:59.000 --> 1:31:59.839 a video game. 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:02.960 It was like you hearing him breathe and weezing. 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:06.280 And I don't know, it felt it felt intense. 1:32:06.960 --> 1:32:08.200 It was intense. It wasn't. 1:32:08.680 --> 1:32:10.559 It was a little ridiculous because when theyre shooting at 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:13.320 his ass, he was missing him. He was terrible shots. 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:16.040 It was terrible shots. But I don't know, like something 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:19.320 about it just I don't know, it was still intriguing. 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:22.439 I guess I was looking. I was reaching for something, 1:32:22.520 --> 1:32:26.080 like reaching for some action and I and I just 1:32:26.120 --> 1:32:28.200 submitted to it. Really And then when they went into 1:32:28.200 --> 1:32:30.439 the gun store, I'm sure that's a that was a 1:32:30.439 --> 1:32:32.679 political statement too, when he went into the gun store 1:32:33.000 --> 1:32:35.920 and he was able to arm and arm himself or 1:32:35.920 --> 1:32:38.360 whatever against against something like this. 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:41.519 So yeah, yeah, no, I thought it was I thought 1:32:41.560 --> 1:32:42.960 it was fun. I thought it was fun. 1:32:43.200 --> 1:32:45.040 It didn't it didn't bother me at all. 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:48.840 I was trying to just decipher what all was going on, like, 1:32:49.120 --> 1:32:51.439 you know, who are these people trying to kill Joel? 1:32:51.439 --> 1:32:53.040 All of a sudden, they just kind of popped out 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:57.160 of nowhere. They were definitely terrible shots, but they were 1:32:57.200 --> 1:32:59.880 not trained, so I guess that would make sense. 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:01.720 The only thing. I was like, when he went in 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:02.599 that gun store, I was. 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:05.960 Like, I said, this motherfucker, I said, it'll be funny 1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:07.760 if he come out busting out of that motherfucker like 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:11.640 commandod and that came out that mother fuck Like I 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:14.800 was like, oh, ship, this really came out here like that. Yeah, 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:21.760 unloading carelessly, you know, like that ship. But but now 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:24.080 I was like, how many are them? But it was 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:28.800 a wild, crazy superintendent long scene. But I'm with you 1:33:28.880 --> 1:33:30.880 on the tension because I'm like, they have the high 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:34.880 ground and Joe's like out in the middle of the street, 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:37.000 and then they started to kind of play around with 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:39.200 like the shots and ship like that, so it made 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:41.479 it disoriented because you were like, where are they kind 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:42.760 of looking around, you know, where they. 1:33:42.680 --> 1:33:44.000 Are looking for him in the shadows. 1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:47.080 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was it was creative directing. 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:49.799 Like I was like, damn, this is this is pretty intense. 1:33:49.840 --> 1:33:53.519 It's ridiculous. Yeah, but you know, I expect him to 1:33:53.520 --> 1:33:55.600 do ridiculous shi last. 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:59.120 Movie, So like I I was afraid, how a point 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:02.000 I know before I'm just ridiculous, No, I know, But 1:34:02.080 --> 1:34:05.600 that's again that's why I don't like this because it 1:34:05.680 --> 1:34:08.559 was like, if you're making it to where this is 1:34:08.600 --> 1:34:12.559 like a COVID fever dream, I can submit. But he 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:14.320 went into a gun store and came out with a 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:18.719 gatling gun? What are we doing? Why is this is stupid? 1:34:22.040 --> 1:34:23.160 But it's not realistic? 1:34:24.800 --> 1:34:26.559 Come on, why you come out of here like you? 1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:30.360 People usually carry those guns on like a moving vehicle. 1:34:31.880 --> 1:34:35.160 They don't sell gatling guns and gun stores. That's the point, Like, 1:34:35.200 --> 1:34:37.920 if you're gonna try to make a realistic depiction or 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:44.400 semi realistic depiction, make it even close to realistic. Up 1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.639 until that, I was like, all right, I can kind 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:51.240 of see this happening. Sure, But when this motherfucker seriously 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:54.840 walked out like Buddy and Predator, I was just like, 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:58.840 all right, dude already asked her wrap this the fuck up? 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:02.599 What are we doing? I like, it just didn't make 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:03.519 any sense. 1:35:03.640 --> 1:35:07.920 I like, like I loaded them, mother if if somebody 1:35:07.960 --> 1:35:10.120 if motherfucker's chasing me and I going there, Bro the 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:10.920 biggest gun I got. 1:35:10.920 --> 1:35:13.080 You said they don't sell him. Typically. 1:35:13.320 --> 1:35:16.240 I was just about to say, y'all, don't be I heard. 1:35:16.760 --> 1:35:19.200 I was worried for a bit in my mute, like 1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:24.519 like that rapper is what Rod said, I'm going to 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:28.120 get the biggest ship. I think they were trying to 1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:31.840 make a point of selling semi auto, but it's just 1:35:31.880 --> 1:35:33.920 a dumb point because it's just like this is this 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:34.519 is silly. 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:38.120 This is really silly. But he had one of those two. 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:39.719 He had that ship on his shoulders. 1:35:40.080 --> 1:35:42.320 Yeah, yeah, I hated this ship. 1:35:42.400 --> 1:35:43.040 I loved it. 1:35:45.520 --> 1:35:47.799 And yeah, so the gunman ends up shooting the sheriff 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:49.920 and stabs him in the head, but he's wrecking rescued 1:35:49.920 --> 1:35:52.559 by Brian. That ship was crazy, like is he about 1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:54.439 to stab He's just about to run up on him 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:56.800 and stab him, and he did right in the head. 1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:58.479 I was like, oh, ship, save. 1:35:58.360 --> 1:36:02.080 You live streaming and recording I save you. 1:36:02.120 --> 1:36:05.600 And then him turning it into a political right. So 1:36:05.600 --> 1:36:07.440 he's supposed to be what's his face. 1:36:08.560 --> 1:36:13.519 Y'all know, little buddy, no man, the guy that went 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:16.120 he carried a gun across lines. He was a young kid, 1:36:16.320 --> 1:36:22.360 killed people. They recently clown him and so yeah, because 1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:24.960 there was pictures of him with Marjorie Taylor Green in 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:28.200 the movie, and it was just like, all right, this 1:36:28.280 --> 1:36:30.400 is dumb, which kind of makes sense. 1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:32.280 I can see him flipping because he never was for 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:33.559 the Anywhere. 1:36:33.640 --> 1:36:35.639 Yes, yes, I think that was kind of the point 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:37.519 that they're making, is like, of course he would flip 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:40.840 because all he wants is attention, but I just didn't 1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:42.760 care at this point, like him running out with his 1:36:42.880 --> 1:36:45.280 phone and shooting it was like, well, we didn't even 1:36:45.400 --> 1:36:49.400 get a glimpse of you being this tied to social 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:52.840 media like that before unless I missed it, But I 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:55.720 did watch half of an interview with Ariastor where he 1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:57.840 was saying that this movie was supposed to be about 1:36:57.920 --> 1:37:00.240 the dangers of social media, and it was just like, oh, 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:03.360 this sounds like a fucking twirly mustache hipster take on this, 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:05.240 because it was just like, dude, this is this is 1:37:05.280 --> 1:37:06.040 basic as fuck. 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:10.360 Dude, Like really, well, yeah, that's sound like what he 1:37:10.400 --> 1:37:12.240 tried to do at the end to save it. 1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:16.639 That's exactly what I thought. I was like, it sounds 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:19.479 like there's some ship you threw in there to make 1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:21.439 it seem like there was a deep point to this. 1:37:21.760 --> 1:37:26.600 No, I think that's that walked social media. 1:37:26.800 --> 1:37:28.640 Yeah, I had it in my notes, the dangers of 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:30.040 social media this whole movie. 1:37:30.720 --> 1:37:32.680 Yeah, yeah, where. 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:35.680 It's like it's like like how. 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:41.120 Again, this whole theme of viruses, social media, Internet, internet 1:37:41.160 --> 1:37:45.200 virus or whatever. But like if you kind of play back, 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:47.320 they were a lot on their phone. This is a 1:37:47.360 --> 1:37:49.599 small town that's cut off from the world. How are 1:37:49.600 --> 1:37:52.160 they getting their information? If you going back to the 1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:55.240 way back in the beginning, Don and Louise are getting 1:37:55.280 --> 1:37:58.200 all their stuff from online social media stuff like that. 1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:00.400 When he tried to have sets with Louise and she 1:38:00.400 --> 1:38:01.280 would have sex. 1:38:01.080 --> 1:38:03.120 With him, what did he do? He rolled over? He 1:38:03.200 --> 1:38:04.800 was on his phone, scroll on his phone. 1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:07.479 So that tells you this movie is about the dangers 1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:13.559 of social media. Yeah, that seems really loose it because 1:38:13.880 --> 1:38:16.040 there was no danger for him to roll over after 1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:16.840 Louis don't give him. 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:20.760 Say but all of these ideas, they're being infected in 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:25.080 this town by the ideas that are outside of their world. 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:26.679 Yeah, I got I got that. 1:38:26.840 --> 1:38:29.920 But these ideas are coming from social media, Internet online. 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:31.559 He says it in a movie too, is like, what 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:33.960 you gonna post it on your little Instagram? He's like, yep, I'm. 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:34.760 Posting on Instagram. 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:38.599 It's him running from mayor started from the Facebook. Facebook. 1:38:38.880 --> 1:38:41.600 Sure, sure, I'm not saying that social media wasn't in 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:43.760 the film. What I'm saying is I don't think that 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:46.760 this was a very clear message, at least for me. 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:50.240 I definitely walked away with being like, well, y'all definitely 1:38:50.280 --> 1:38:53.320 showed a lot of how social media happens, but it 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:56.400 wasn't egregious to the point where I would take away, Oh, 1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:59.920 you're making a point about how dangerous social media is. 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:01.640 Not that you say earlier you didn't want it to 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:04.960 be too clear? What do you mean with some of 1:39:05.000 --> 1:39:05.599 his films? 1:39:06.840 --> 1:39:07.720 I don't remember saying that. 1:39:07.720 --> 1:39:09.000 Well, maybe I've been understood. 1:39:09.040 --> 1:39:12.840 No, maybe I said it and forgot. I'll tell you 1:39:12.840 --> 1:39:14.360 what it sounds like me, but I don't think I 1:39:14.400 --> 1:39:16.880 said that. It's not that I don't want his movies 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:20.200 to be clear. It's just that I want to understand 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:23.080 that there is some sort of message something for me 1:39:23.120 --> 1:39:27.720 to chew. On his last three films, they were very 1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:28.439 message heavy. 1:39:28.479 --> 1:39:30.400 It was like, Yo, when you. 1:39:30.520 --> 1:39:32.519 Finished the film and you walk away, it's like, oh, 1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.120 I understand how this is where you're talking about the 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.559 dangers of cults. Got it, You're talking about family trauma, 1:39:37.640 --> 1:39:40.400 got it, You're talking about you know, anxiety, got it? 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:44.439 With this, it's like, oh, really, we're talking about social media? 1:39:44.560 --> 1:39:45.160 Is dangerous. 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:47.439 It's like, bro once again, this is a very basic 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:51.120 ass idea and it's to me, it's not even presented 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:52.080 in a creative way. 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:57.439 But the Tech Company gets rich off the division while 1:39:57.439 --> 1:39:59.559 we bicker and fight. Does he feel like that was 1:39:59.640 --> 1:40:01.720 his There was a summation of what he said, but 1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:02.519 he said he feelt like. 1:40:02.439 --> 1:40:04.080 This, Well that was at the end. 1:40:04.600 --> 1:40:07.320 I think that book ended and kind of probably steal 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:09.760 the deal because you know, they still got what they 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:12.679 wanted while this community basically fell apart. 1:40:12.920 --> 1:40:13.840 Yeah, you know, but. 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:14.720 I got that point. 1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:17.360 Yeah, well, I like with all he said, though I 1:40:17.360 --> 1:40:19.240 don't want to just paraphrase what he said. He said, 1:40:19.240 --> 1:40:21.160 I took the meaning that the tech is underlining thing 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:25.080 divided us, COVID intensified the division and had us all 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:28.320 following different ideologies which had happened that. 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:31.400 Leading to us to us to the destruction. 1:40:32.000 --> 1:40:32.120 Uh. 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:33.960 The post of the movie with the buffalo kind of 1:40:34.000 --> 1:40:36.840 solidified that for him. He said that Tech company gets 1:40:36.880 --> 1:40:39.439 rich off the division while we all bicker in fight. 1:40:40.080 --> 1:40:43.720 Yeah, I mean all like like it was it. It 1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:47.680 was like everybody was impacted one way or another by 1:40:47.880 --> 1:40:51.840 the ideas of all these other entities. You know, from 1:40:52.000 --> 1:40:56.439 b LM to you know, the cops to everything, and 1:40:56.479 --> 1:40:58.360 I think, just you know, I was thinking about it. 1:40:58.360 --> 1:41:00.120 You have the white guy Joe who. 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:03.840 As his aspirations to be this big kind of glamorous thing. 1:41:03.880 --> 1:41:06.599 I'm gonna take over this city. I'm gonna be mayor. 1:41:06.680 --> 1:41:08.679 And when that failed, what did he do? He resorts 1:41:08.720 --> 1:41:11.759 the violence. What do you know what is typically sometimes 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:13.439 sought you tod with white people. I couldn't get my way, 1:41:13.560 --> 1:41:16.360 so I resort to violence. That's how we got to America. 1:41:16.400 --> 1:41:18.240 And that's why you have sort of like the underlying 1:41:18.280 --> 1:41:22.160 part about the kind of in the background with Pueblo people, 1:41:22.240 --> 1:41:24.920 Pueblo that are there that he didn't even know it 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:28.960 was part of like this that sat on the county 1:41:28.960 --> 1:41:30.680 that they had sort of rights to it. He just 1:41:30.760 --> 1:41:32.920 kind of tried to get rid of them and dismissed them. 1:41:33.240 --> 1:41:35.679 And then you also have the black guy Michael, who 1:41:35.840 --> 1:41:38.400 kind of assimilated and was part of the system that 1:41:38.560 --> 1:41:40.360 didn't fuck with him. 1:41:40.439 --> 1:41:41.400 And he didn't realize it. 1:41:41.400 --> 1:41:43.720 He was oblivious to it until he was reminded that 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:46.040 he was black, you know, towards the end, and then 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:47.800 he got turned at the end of the. 1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:51.840 Movie didn't get turned. He became sheriff. That's my whole 1:41:51.840 --> 1:41:53.920 point with this, like, what the fuck are you even 1:41:54.000 --> 1:41:56.400 not you? But what the fuck are you even trying 1:41:56.439 --> 1:41:57.080 to say with it. 1:41:57.080 --> 1:41:59.600 He didn't seem like he was angry though about the 1:41:59.640 --> 1:42:02.280 portray that happened, because he didn't seem like he was 1:42:02.280 --> 1:42:03.280 happy to be sheriff. 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:05.639 He didn't see like he was mad about being sheriff. 1:42:05.680 --> 1:42:07.559 His face was all, well, he wanted to be sheriff 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:10.160 because his dad was sheriff. Dad never made to be sheriff. 1:42:10.240 --> 1:42:12.599 But he seemed but he looked like he was mad, 1:42:12.640 --> 1:42:13.920 though you be mad. 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:15.320 To face was what the fuck? 1:42:15.560 --> 1:42:17.040 Because he saw a mirror at. 1:42:16.920 --> 1:42:19.479 Some point and he's out there shooting and he's feeling 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:22.320 the the at sheriff or whatever Joe's. 1:42:22.040 --> 1:42:24.000 He was filming Joe in a wheelchair on some Stephen 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:24.559 Hawk and ship. 1:42:25.280 --> 1:42:27.640 It was just it was like that. 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:30.519 That bomb, I know, the other dude in half, but 1:42:30.560 --> 1:42:31.920 he was standing right on top of it. 1:42:32.040 --> 1:42:34.840 He lives. I don't know whether it was. 1:42:35.720 --> 1:42:37.640 It seemed like the bomb was pretty close to him, 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:40.360 but I let it go. I thought the same thing Spike. 1:42:40.160 --> 1:42:41.559 But I thought he was there whatever. 1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:42.680 But I even like the. 1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:46.040 I mean that makes sense as to why, you know, 1:42:46.160 --> 1:42:48.400 it's it's it's like a Western. It's like the wild 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:51.240 wild West, Like it was kind of a similar thing 1:42:51.439 --> 1:42:54.720 going on down and I'm just saying it was like 1:42:55.080 --> 1:42:56.240 it was a lot of outlaws. 1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:56.960 It was it was. 1:42:57.240 --> 1:42:59.360 I mean, it was just the same type of vibe. 1:42:59.360 --> 1:43:03.280 It felt like that, but in a more modern day sense. 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:05.639 Thank you shooting from I think so too. I don't 1:43:05.640 --> 1:43:07.439 think that's been I think it's very intentional that he 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:10.240 made it like a Western. I think it was intentionally 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:12.120 he made it like a Western, but with all the like, oh, 1:43:12.160 --> 1:43:14.519 there's a bunch of outlaws and stuff. It was just like, man, 1:43:15.800 --> 1:43:20.839 but this this film just did not seem anywhere close 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:25.000 to as deep and compelling as his standard films are. 1:43:25.560 --> 1:43:28.360 Like when all of his movies have a have a 1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:31.400 part at the end where everything just goes fucking crazy, 1:43:32.200 --> 1:43:37.280 this was the least interesting crazy moment, you know. I 1:43:38.400 --> 1:43:41.680 don't think he was actually trying to make an overall 1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:45.559 solid point. I think the social media is evil thing 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:49.679 is just some basic bitch kind of logic there. I mean, 1:43:49.800 --> 1:43:52.960 anybody can make a movie about the dangers of social 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:54.920 media and it's like we've already been beaten over the 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:58.479 head with the dangers of social media at the very least, 1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:01.280 how about make it createative. I don't find that this 1:44:01.360 --> 1:44:02.400 was creative, all right, so. 1:44:02.400 --> 1:44:03.360 Let me let me so. 1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:07.000 I looked at The Wild Wild West you're about to 1:44:07.040 --> 1:44:08.960 read a whole no no, no, no, just just a couple 1:44:08.960 --> 1:44:10.479 of no no, no, just a couple of key points 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:12.559 of it. And I thought he probably implemented this. He 1:44:12.600 --> 1:44:15.719 probably looked used this as a reference. So the error 1:44:15.760 --> 1:44:18.760 was marked by a rapid expansion in settlement. It was 1:44:18.800 --> 1:44:21.880 also marked by lawless and violence. It was marked by 1:44:21.880 --> 1:44:25.080 the clash of cultures and the rise of iconic figures. 1:44:25.439 --> 1:44:28.400 That was that was the key characteristics of the Wild 1:44:28.400 --> 1:44:31.400 Wild West. We got all that, But who cares. I 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:33.800 think that gives a fuck. He did it in a 1:44:33.840 --> 1:44:36.400 modern way. I thought that was that's created. It's basically 1:44:36.439 --> 1:44:39.760 we are. And the reason was sparked, is what Jalen said. 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:41.439 I'm like, damn, he kind of right, because like, yeah, 1:44:41.520 --> 1:44:44.679 it was like the Wild Wild West, Like it made sense, 1:44:44.800 --> 1:44:46.920 Like it's making this movie make a lot more sense 1:44:46.960 --> 1:44:50.640 to me, because you got the gunfights, you got the like. 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:55.600 That was never my confusion. My confusion was never why 1:44:56.000 --> 1:44:58.680 why are you making this a Western? That was never 1:44:58.720 --> 1:45:02.719 because he's from New Mexico, so who is a Yeah? Okay, 1:45:03.479 --> 1:45:08.719 so again my whole thing was always what is the 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:10.240 point I. 1:45:10.120 --> 1:45:11.920 Think showing the correlation of. 1:45:13.960 --> 1:45:17.519 This time with the time of the with the eighteen 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:20.120 hundreds or whatever when the Wild Wild West was happening. 1:45:20.120 --> 1:45:21.880 Now, I think you probably just don't like the point 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:23.280 that he was making in this movie. 1:45:23.720 --> 1:45:25.240 What is it? What's the point that he was making 1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:27.439 that I'm supposed to like or dislike? I think that 1:45:27.960 --> 1:45:31.360 if it's really just, oh hey, guys during twenty twenty, 1:45:31.400 --> 1:45:33.439 there's a correlation between what happened in twenty twenty and 1:45:33.520 --> 1:45:35.320 the Wild Wild West, if that's the whole point. 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:38.599 No, not that, I'm just I'm just thinking about just 1:45:38.720 --> 1:45:43.280 like again, like just it was even on his truck 1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:45.479 about I can't remember what it was on the truck 1:45:45.560 --> 1:45:48.880 something about the virus, but just like how these how 1:45:48.920 --> 1:45:54.840 we all can be infected and with this one thing, 1:45:55.000 --> 1:45:56.240 and what is the virus? 1:45:56.280 --> 1:45:56.479 Does? 1:45:56.520 --> 1:45:59.040 It gets in your system and then it starts to 1:45:59.200 --> 1:46:02.400 grow nfest and you kind of see it where this 1:46:02.479 --> 1:46:07.559 whole BLM thing started with two girls talking as social justice, 1:46:07.560 --> 1:46:09.680 and here come these two guys long. The next thing 1:46:09.680 --> 1:46:11.800 you know, they're in the crowd, in the in this 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:13.840 small block, in the truck. The next thing you know, 1:46:14.000 --> 1:46:16.960 it's this whole little city. You have that thing. You 1:46:16.960 --> 1:46:20.800 have Joe's ambitions as well, that's growing and manifesting, and 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:23.639 he get infected with that, and then that leads to violence. 1:46:23.640 --> 1:46:26.520 And that's a parallel to like it could be uh 1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:31.639 literally figuratively with Joe, Like as the as the affection got. 1:46:31.479 --> 1:46:33.160 Worse, he got worse, He got worse. 1:46:33.439 --> 1:46:37.280 He even he didn't believe in COVID still never revealed 1:46:37.320 --> 1:46:40.840 that he had it when it got tested, came back coughing, 1:46:40.920 --> 1:46:43.160 trying to conceal the cough. But what is he doing 1:46:43.240 --> 1:46:45.080 this whole time he's there, In the time that he said, 1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:47.920 COVID wasn't there. COVID came as you wanted out by 1:46:47.960 --> 1:46:50.960 the by the homeless guy, right. But all he's doing, 1:46:50.960 --> 1:46:54.639 what is he doing? He's spreading the virus everywhere, and 1:46:54.680 --> 1:46:56.600 the virus in this town is being spread by a 1:46:56.680 --> 1:46:59.400 lot of different things. That's kind of looping back in 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:03.400 area also was saying by also outside world and the 1:47:03.479 --> 1:47:04.920 Internet that they have access to. 1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:07.599 I don't think. 1:47:07.479 --> 1:47:10.000 Y'all, I don't think the third I was present in 1:47:10.040 --> 1:47:13.280 this film. I think this is the most basic ass message. 1:47:13.640 --> 1:47:14.880 I think I was looking for something deeper. 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:17.080 Yeah, yeah, that's that's what. That's kind of where I 1:47:17.120 --> 1:47:17.360 was going. 1:47:17.479 --> 1:47:20.000 Your explanation sounds better than they played out on screen. 1:47:20.920 --> 1:47:23.519 It didn't play out because y'all are not wrong, and 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:26.280 I'd like it what y'all saying, but how it played 1:47:26.320 --> 1:47:27.680 out on screen, it did not. 1:47:28.080 --> 1:47:29.080 It didn't come off there with. 1:47:29.200 --> 1:47:31.439 I don't even like the way you not not anything 1:47:31.439 --> 1:47:33.240 against you, I don't even like the way you said it, 1:47:33.240 --> 1:47:36.000 because I feel like this could be a TVV. No, 1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:40.559 I'm not. I got what I mean for the sound. 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:43.040 No, I didn't mean it like that. 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:46.200 I'm saying like, if already Aster came out and said, hey, 1:47:46.200 --> 1:47:48.400 this is what I was going for, I would still 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:52.599 have the same annoyed stance that I have now. That's 1:47:52.600 --> 1:47:53.960 where I was going before you to jump in and 1:47:54.000 --> 1:47:56.520 make it exactly. 1:47:58.000 --> 1:47:59.479 Thank you, just. 1:48:02.360 --> 1:48:05.080 Right, But yeah, yeah, that's my thing. You're right. I 1:48:05.080 --> 1:48:08.200 think I just didn't care about the message, and I 1:48:08.200 --> 1:48:11.400 didn't care about the way the message was portrayed. Because 1:48:11.439 --> 1:48:13.280 if when I'm supposed to walk away from with this 1:48:13.560 --> 1:48:17.320 entire film is social media is dangerous. I'm looking at 1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:21.120 you like, bro, are you fucking serious? Water is wet, 1:48:21.400 --> 1:48:25.519 the sky is blue, Like, do this in a more 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:29.200 creative way. We all know cults are bad, but when 1:48:29.200 --> 1:48:32.480 you watch Midsommar, you're like, oh shit, this is crazy. 1:48:32.920 --> 1:48:35.920 How this play. We know that family trauma is a thing, 1:48:36.760 --> 1:48:40.719 but when you watch Hereditary, you're like, oh shit, that's 1:48:40.920 --> 1:48:43.920 why the way this broke down. If it's just me 1:48:44.040 --> 1:48:46.519 and I guess spiked to a degree, that's fine. I'm 1:48:46.520 --> 1:48:48.519 not trying to get y'all change of mind. I think 1:48:48.520 --> 1:48:51.439 that my expectations were just way too high for this film, 1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:53.840 even though I walked in being like, I don't think 1:48:53.840 --> 1:48:57.439 I'm gonna like this, but because I've liked all of 1:48:57.520 --> 1:49:01.960 ari Astro's films, I was hoping I would. But by 1:49:02.000 --> 1:49:03.760 the end of this movie, I was just like, Bro, 1:49:03.960 --> 1:49:07.240 this is your easily easily by leaps and bounds, your 1:49:07.320 --> 1:49:14.920 worst film. This is nowhere near what you did with Midsommar, Hereditary, 1:49:15.720 --> 1:49:18.200 or Bo's Afraid. I think the acting was great to 1:49:18.240 --> 1:49:20.559 wrap this up. From my stance, I think the acting 1:49:20.640 --> 1:49:24.080 was great. I think certain stories and actors were completely 1:49:24.200 --> 1:49:27.840 under fucking utilized. We didn't even need Louise in this 1:49:27.880 --> 1:49:30.200 whole fucking movie. Y'all could have took Louise out of 1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:32.880 this shit, and the whole fucking thing could have played 1:49:32.880 --> 1:49:36.080 out the exact same way. Because Louise added nothing to this. 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:39.960 You could have had Don still there giving him the 1:49:40.040 --> 1:49:42.840 conspiracy stuff. It was just like, and then the the 1:49:44.439 --> 1:49:49.360 cult guy Wise Vernon, he didn't do shit in this, 1:49:49.439 --> 1:49:51.599 and he's all over the posters and whatnot. And when 1:49:51.600 --> 1:49:53.360 you're talking about the Buffalo or whene of y'all talking 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:56.439 about Buffalo. Yeah, yeah, Jalen, Yeah, I get you. 1:49:56.520 --> 1:49:57.920 That was very obvious. 1:49:58.160 --> 1:50:01.080 But I think in my brain I saying, he's not 1:50:01.280 --> 1:50:05.320 going this basic. I was telling myself this whole film. 1:50:05.520 --> 1:50:08.439 I was like, he ain't talking about COVID. At some point, 1:50:08.520 --> 1:50:09.560 there's a demon. 1:50:09.320 --> 1:50:11.599 And see I didn't even think it was a COVID movie. Honestly. 1:50:11.600 --> 1:50:13.960 I thought COVID was just kind of used as a setting. 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:19.439 But what the real quick Dawn did she become part 1:50:19.479 --> 1:50:21.080 of the institution herself. 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:24.519 Institution you mean, because wasn't she speaking on behalf of. 1:50:24.800 --> 1:50:26.799 What was at the end of the morning, he basically 1:50:26.840 --> 1:50:30.040 became the new mayor because she was huge a caretaker, 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:34.959 but she was kind of running the show because clearly 1:50:35.160 --> 1:50:37.520 Joe was an invalid at this point. 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:39.040 Which I don't know how or whatever. 1:50:39.080 --> 1:50:40.920 Well, she was able to kind of spread her message. 1:50:40.960 --> 1:50:42.960 She was kind of able to spread her message that 1:50:43.240 --> 1:50:44.080 she's always had. 1:50:44.200 --> 1:50:47.240 Yeah, so she's now has the power and the ears 1:50:47.600 --> 1:50:50.760 to spread the conspiracies. Now why we end with all 1:50:50.800 --> 1:50:53.920 them climbing in the bed, No fucking clue. Why we 1:50:54.080 --> 1:50:57.080 end with Michael in the field shooting the target and 1:50:57.080 --> 1:51:00.599 then it pulls back. It's just like who who cares? 1:51:00.920 --> 1:51:04.519 Like what difference is make at this point? Yeah, he's mad, 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:05.559 he's he's he's gonna. 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:08.960 I think he's going to try to assassinate Joe at 1:51:08.960 --> 1:51:10.559 some point, man. 1:51:10.840 --> 1:51:15.680 Choke to assassinate Joe. You can him over, but he 1:51:15.760 --> 1:51:18.599 has to do it to get away with it. That's 1:51:18.640 --> 1:51:23.680 what you think he practiced. Absolutely, he practicing. Absolutely, he is. 1:51:24.360 --> 1:51:25.439 That's whack as fuck. 1:51:25.680 --> 1:51:29.360 I think he realized the system isn't for him, and 1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:30.839 now he's anti system. 1:51:30.920 --> 1:51:31.879 I know he's still working. 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:32.360 For the Sistee. 1:51:32.520 --> 1:51:35.280 Oh god, but you know what this y'all y'all worrying 1:51:35.640 --> 1:51:37.120 because I was. 1:51:37.520 --> 1:51:38.920 I ran out of there with Chris. 1:51:40.200 --> 1:51:42.519 I was like, thank god, this bush. I don't even 1:51:42.560 --> 1:51:45.400 care why he's because when I saw him shooting, I 1:51:45.479 --> 1:51:47.599 was like, why is he shooting? Then when it pulled 1:51:47.600 --> 1:51:49.280 back and it's like, oh, there's the data center. Is 1:51:49.320 --> 1:51:51.400 he shooting at the data center? Is he mad that 1:51:51.479 --> 1:51:55.000 the data centers there? What is happening? But y'all saying, oh, 1:51:55.000 --> 1:51:57.880 he was practicing to shoot Joe. I'm like, dog, I 1:51:57.920 --> 1:52:00.720 think he definitely going to do something. But you know, 1:52:01.040 --> 1:52:04.120 because why would you even kill Joe? Like, Joe didn't 1:52:04.120 --> 1:52:08.439 blow your dumb ass up? Quote unquote, he know Joe 1:52:08.520 --> 1:52:12.160 set him up? Yeah, I think he made How does 1:52:12.160 --> 1:52:13.680 he know Joe set him up? Because no, he's no 1:52:13.760 --> 1:52:15.680 Joe said a month. He know, he knows that he 1:52:15.800 --> 1:52:17.559 was set up. He said it on a different station. 1:52:17.640 --> 1:52:19.719 That's a different statement. He doesn't know that Joe set 1:52:19.800 --> 1:52:22.320 him up. Who else would have set a month? The 1:52:22.360 --> 1:52:25.479 other white guy or this group. Yes guy was the 1:52:25.560 --> 1:52:26.680 only one that was racist, but. 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:28.160 He was in on. But but Joe was in on. 1:52:28.240 --> 1:52:29.760 He's like, don't do this, Why are you doing this? 1:52:29.960 --> 1:52:34.080 Know that Michael does not. Michael, when he starts to call, 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:37.160 he asked Joe. He told Joe, I don't trust exactly. 1:52:37.400 --> 1:52:40.880 But they show him looking at Joe towards the end 1:52:40.960 --> 1:52:41.479 in the crowd. 1:52:41.479 --> 1:52:43.040 He was in the crowd. Look we dot all that. 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:46.200 But the whole the statement of he knows Joe set 1:52:46.240 --> 1:52:48.479 him up, I'm saying that is that is not true. 1:52:48.560 --> 1:52:52.000 He may suspect it now never why why would they 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:52.479 suspect it? 1:52:52.520 --> 1:52:54.439 I'm kind of with Rod, like, why the is he 1:52:54.479 --> 1:52:55.479 looking at Joe like that? 1:52:56.120 --> 1:52:58.400 Even if even if the film is trying to imply 1:52:59.080 --> 1:53:02.839 that Michael thinks that Joe set him up, it doesn't 1:53:02.840 --> 1:53:05.840 make any sense because why would he think that? Because 1:53:05.880 --> 1:53:08.960 we they still don't know that Joe's the one that 1:53:09.120 --> 1:53:12.040 killed Ted. They still don't know that Joe was the 1:53:12.040 --> 1:53:15.040 one that had the gun. No one knows all this. 1:53:15.560 --> 1:53:18.719 So how would Michael know that Joe put the gun 1:53:18.880 --> 1:53:19.559 in his car? 1:53:21.200 --> 1:53:21.840 Know that? 1:53:24.080 --> 1:53:27.320 No, he would right exactly, So Michael would think more 1:53:27.360 --> 1:53:29.680 so that it was guy that set him up. So 1:53:29.720 --> 1:53:34.360 why would he be practicing outside to shoot Joe? 1:53:34.360 --> 1:53:34.519 Now? 1:53:34.560 --> 1:53:37.200 The only thing maybe he thinks that well, guy got 1:53:37.200 --> 1:53:38.880 blown up, So why would he set me up and 1:53:38.920 --> 1:53:42.600 then have to himself blown up. Joe somehow lived, but 1:53:42.720 --> 1:53:45.000 it seems like he would be practicing to kill whoever 1:53:45.040 --> 1:53:48.639 these Antifa people are because he he Michael doesn't seem 1:53:48.680 --> 1:53:51.200 that dumb. It seems like he'd figure out, oh yeah. 1:53:50.960 --> 1:53:55.040 Because they kidnapped him. He knowed somebody else jail. 1:53:55.080 --> 1:53:56.439 They broke him out of the jail, and then they 1:53:56.560 --> 1:53:59.360 then Joe and guy get there and say how did 1:53:59.360 --> 1:54:01.639 you get out here? So there's no way he thinks 1:54:01.720 --> 1:54:04.120 my Joe did it. That doesn't make any sense. 1:54:04.160 --> 1:54:08.519 Unless they told him a bunch of ship that we 1:54:08.560 --> 1:54:09.520 didn't see. 1:54:10.479 --> 1:54:12.599 I don't know, but. 1:54:12.120 --> 1:54:14.840 We broke you out and Joe did it. Just so 1:54:14.960 --> 1:54:17.080 you know, Joe is a part of all this, and 1:54:17.120 --> 1:54:19.200 we broke you out, that would be really And we're 1:54:19.200 --> 1:54:21.040 gonna blow you up, so even if you die, you're 1:54:21.080 --> 1:54:22.120 gonna go to the depth. 1:54:23.560 --> 1:54:28.800 At you asking great questions. I don't know, but that's up. 1:54:29.560 --> 1:54:31.000 We're done. We're done. 1:54:31.000 --> 1:54:32.400 I wanted to end this a while ago. I told 1:54:32.440 --> 1:54:34.480 you all this ship was gonna go along anyway. 1:54:34.560 --> 1:54:35.040 We're done. 1:54:35.520 --> 1:54:36.040 I'm sorry. 1:54:36.080 --> 1:54:38.600 I totally just cut you off while you're saying I'm sorry, 1:54:38.800 --> 1:54:40.240 I was kind of joking, but I realized that was 1:54:40.280 --> 1:54:42.240 weirde what were you saying? I'm good? No, man, go ahead, 1:54:42.360 --> 1:54:44.120 So no know I was good. I was just saying, well, 1:54:44.120 --> 1:54:45.960 why I already had? I got it out? 1:54:47.120 --> 1:54:47.360 You did. 1:54:47.400 --> 1:54:50.040 I'm sorry. I just said, like, why was he looking 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:53.000 at I have no clue, That's what I'm telling you. 1:54:53.880 --> 1:54:55.520 I think because they turned on him. He was looking 1:54:55.520 --> 1:54:57.880 at him with some disdain, like he thought Joe trusted 1:54:57.920 --> 1:54:59.360 him a little bit more. But I don't know if 1:54:59.400 --> 1:55:01.960 he was killed when they were in the scenario, he 1:55:02.000 --> 1:55:03.680 couldn't believe that they were treating him like that. 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:04.160 Yeah. 1:55:04.360 --> 1:55:06.120 But but see that goes back to what the girlfriend 1:55:06.160 --> 1:55:08.000 was saying. She's like, look, they don't give a about you. 1:55:09.640 --> 1:55:12.640 You know what she was realizes that makes more sense 1:55:12.640 --> 1:55:14.760 to me what Spike said. I would I would buy 1:55:14.800 --> 1:55:17.920 that anyway. We're not that your little point wasn't good 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:25.400 and stuff? Okays after me, all right, we're done here. 1:55:26.320 --> 1:55:28.160 Let me know what y'all think. Am I being too 1:55:28.160 --> 1:55:31.360 harsh on this film and spiked the marsh on this film? 1:55:32.000 --> 1:55:33.640 Or Ken and Rod just acceptance? 1:55:33.880 --> 1:55:34.240 Whatever? 1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:35.760 Ship? What is. 1:55:40.960 --> 1:55:43.760 The truth somewhere in the middle, y'all? Let us know 1:55:43.800 --> 1:55:45.560 what y'all thought, and we will see y'all next time.