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Speaker 2: The frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Frame Second Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike. I'm your host for the evening. Next

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Speaker 1: to me, I have Rod What what man?

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Speaker 3: Next to me?

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Speaker 1: I have Spike, Next Spike, I have Ken all right,

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Speaker 1: and we are talking about the newest movie from ariast

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Speaker 1: Ariast of Hereditary Midsomar and uh BoA's Afraid Fame. And

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Speaker 1: there's something strange about the Johnson's of course too. This

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Speaker 1: one stars Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro, Pascal, Emma Stone and yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get a get a round table going.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, Rod and stretching my left.

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Speaker 1: What did you think about this one?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was cool man. Oh, okay, it was late.

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Speaker 4: I had to go to a late show, so I

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Speaker 4: was a little out of it when I saw it,

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Speaker 4: and I wanted to see it a second time because

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Speaker 4: I dozed off in a couple of millions, but not

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Speaker 4: dozing off because I thought.

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Speaker 1: It was born.

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Speaker 4: It was just just it's a long movie and it

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Speaker 4: was like eleven thirty when I had to go see it.

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Speaker 1: But but nah, nah, I think I thought it was uh.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was an interesting, interesting story from Ariaster

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Speaker 4: so oh from ARIASTERA. And the performances were great. U

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Speaker 4: there was some like some some old shit moments and yeah, man, overall,

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Speaker 4: I want to go back and see it. I want

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Speaker 4: to go back and watch it because I didn't, you know,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I felt tired, but it definitely felt

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Speaker 4: I wanted to definitely go back and watch it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought I thought it was decent. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a decent film, Spike, what what do

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Speaker 1: you think usually this pacing, this style a type movie

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Speaker 1: like I'm really drawn too, And this one it was

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Speaker 1: good till it wasn't like till it got to a

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Speaker 1: point where it was like what's happening and why is

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Speaker 5: But the performances were good. It wasn't a complete like

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Speaker 5: waste of time or anything like that, but I wasn't

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Speaker 5: fulfilled at the end.

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Speaker 1: Again, what did you think about this one?

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Speaker 2: I loved it?

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Speaker 6: Actually, you know, I didn't you know when when I

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Speaker 6: read the description on AMC, I was like, but when

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Speaker 6: it got going, after the setup, you got into it

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Speaker 6: and you kind of see.

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Speaker 2: What it appeared to me what they were going for.

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Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, this is really interesting where he's going.

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Speaker 6: And then when he got to the conclusion, I was like, damn.

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Speaker 6: And it really left me with a lot to think about,

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Speaker 6: Like it was just kind of sitting on me just

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Speaker 6: to think about the roles of each parts of the movie.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I was I loved it.

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Speaker 4: It was a good capture At the time, like, I

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Speaker 4: thought that was really cool, like he was able to

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Speaker 4: capture so many different things. That was happening just in

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Speaker 4: this one town that could be applied in other towns

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was that was That was really good,

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Speaker 1: good directing. All right, Well, I did not expect it

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Speaker 1: to go this way. I didn't like this movie at all.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was terrible. I don't understand what the

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Speaker 1: point of this was. Ari Astro typically has something to

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Speaker 1: I see why he fell asleep for the majority of

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Speaker 1: this film. I was seriously like, why why are we

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Speaker 1: doing this? I've seen pandemic movies nine point five times

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Speaker 1: out of ten, they're terrible. This was not much of

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Speaker 1: It seemed very obvious where it was leading to. I am,

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm not even like mad that I spent

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Speaker 1: like damn bro, whenever he puts a film out, I'm

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Speaker 1: so looking forward to it, and we get this a

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Speaker 1: pandemic Western for fucking what, dude, it had Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: satirical yes, thank you, a satirical modern Western in COVID

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Speaker 1: and then you're throwing in blm shit. It was just like,

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Speaker 1: what in the fuck are we doing? For two hours

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Speaker 1: and forty motherfucking minutes, what are we doing? That's how

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Speaker 1: long it was.

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Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, it was a long as a movie.

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Speaker 1: Right, maybe two hours and thirty. It was definitely well

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Speaker 1: over two hours. Yeah, it was over two hours, and

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Speaker 1: it did not need to be. This bitch could have

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Speaker 1: been an hour and fifteen and I'd have been like, cool,

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Speaker 1: you hit the mark. But no, I did not like

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Speaker 1: this film at all. I'm glad y'all did, though. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be on an island by myself, So let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get into the shit. It opens in

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Speaker 1: late twenty twenty in a town called Eddington, Texas. See

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Speaker 1: a homeless man walking down the street ranting to himself.

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Speaker 1: But right after that we meet Joe Cross who's played

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Speaker 1: by Joaquin Phoenix, and he is a local sheriff who

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Speaker 1: seems to have a problem with mask mandate Spike, what

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Speaker 1: was your first impression of Joe Cross? Uh Man, Mike

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Speaker 1: would hate this guy. It was the first thing for Jesus.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me that guy you worked with. I did

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Speaker 1: that ran through my head as well. Uh.

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Speaker 5: I mean I seen immediately what they were trying to

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Speaker 5: was it led my mind to wonder, Okay, what's Pascal's

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Speaker 5: role going to be as the kind of antagonist to

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Speaker 5: this and how are they going to play off of

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Speaker 5: each other? Because he was very clear on what side

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Speaker 5: he stood on and what he was about to represent

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Speaker 5: throughout the whole movie.

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Speaker 1: So okay, Ken, same thing.

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Speaker 2: Now. It took him. It took a while for.

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Speaker 6: Me to kind of get into what Joe was in

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Speaker 6: this presentation. I think that you know, it just just

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Speaker 6: really you're in this town in New Mexico. You know

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Speaker 6: I thought it was just stupid, but then it was

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Speaker 6: to say, we put your mask on, and put the

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Speaker 3: Off, he in the car too, and no one else

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Speaker 4: People were doing that though. That's what I liked about

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Speaker 4: That's what I liked about it. Initially. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is a real glimpse of how shit was, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like people was putting the mask

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Speaker 3: So like, like I did.

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Speaker 4: I liked the realness of it, like that he that

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Speaker 4: he was immediately capturing a time in this in this

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it yeah, that was that.

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Speaker 4: I know you didn't ask me yet, but that was

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Speaker 4: my my initial take from the opening with with Joaquin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from the opening, my initial thing was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's married to Emma Stone, Like all right, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gonna have to make that make sense. Then it was

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Speaker 1: just like, is this supposed to be funny.

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Speaker 3: It's listened as a comedy. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And Bo was afraid kind of was too, and I

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Speaker 1: I see what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I need to watch this again. I'm

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Speaker 4: I feel like I do because it's already as stid.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him that grace because like I was

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Speaker 4: the same way with bulls Afraid. I think we both

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Speaker 1: But I didn't fall asleep. I didn't fall asleep. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I missed anything. I just think this movie

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can't imagine you falling asleep for

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see it.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't I didn't feel like I was lost, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to see it in this entirety.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't it because like, oh man, I feel like

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Speaker 4: I missed something It's just like, I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: the same thing with me.

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Speaker 5: And now that you mentioned it, they were doing a

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Speaker 5: little right before the smack, I fell asleep a little

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Speaker 1: When you forgotten you fell asleep till just down, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did. I did because I was thinking.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh yeah, right before he smacked him,

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Speaker 5: I was like, you know, one of those, and then

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Speaker 3: That's nothing bro like.

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Speaker 1: So when Joe's called through a disturbance at the bar,

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Speaker 1: we meet Ted Garcia played by Pedro pascal Ken.

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Speaker 3: Did you have any first impressions.

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Speaker 1: Meeting him or about like what went down at the

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Speaker 2: Initially it didn't.

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Speaker 6: It didn't really kind of connect for me until later,

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Speaker 6: you know, cause uh, but nah, it was just an

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Speaker 6: and just his reluctance to wear the mask and how

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Speaker 6: and you know, of course their reaction to the homeless

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Speaker 1: It was just like, bro, this is so basic. This

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting or interesting to kind of look

445
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Speaker 1: back at it, like, oh.

446
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's right, goddamn.

447
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 6: And it's like with his viewpoint, where where did his

448
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 6: viewpoint come from? Because he's not all the way with

449
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 6: Dawn and I guess Louise and the conspiracy part, is

450
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Speaker 6: he taking more of a pragmatic view of like we're

451
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 6: a small town. There's been no evidence of COVID bit

452
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 6: in this town. Why the hell are we wearing masks?

453
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 6: It makes no sense, you know? So, and was that

454
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 6: his stance versus them being more preventative like, we're gonna

455
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 6: wear a mask because we don't know what's going.

456
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: To happen, so it's best the urge on the side

457
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Speaker 2: of caution.

458
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Speaker 4: And then he had asthma, so, you know, and not

459
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 4: wearing a mask, right right right, I was just saying, well,

460
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Speaker 4: the asthma, he said, he that's one of the reasons

461
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: why you don't because he can't fucking breathe or whatever.

462
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: So so so it made it difficult. But since you're laughing,

463
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why you're laughing, But for me, like

464
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 4: it's like you're not thinking about those people in there,

465
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 4: and there every day struggles of not being able to

466
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 4: just breathe normally every day. So we're like, oh, yeah,

467
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: wear a mask, wear a mask, wear a mask. But

468
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 4: some people they really struggled. They've really struggled with it.

469
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: And when you ask about empathy, I guess you do

470
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: got of empathize with that.

471
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have that struggle. No, it's not.

472
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

473
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Speaker 1: I was asking do you think Joe was being empathetic

474
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: when he went and said, you know, let that man

475
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: in without wearing a mask. I don't think he was

476
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: being empathetic. I think Joe represented the typical boneheaded redneck

477
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: that thinks you can't breathe with a mask on, which

478
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: is simply untrue. You can breathe with a mask on,

479
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: especially if you're only going in a store for ten minutes,

480
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: because that was a whole thing during twenty twenty. You

481
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: had these fucking rednecks that were just like, I'm not

482
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: putting that on because I can't breathe. I got a

483
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: medical condition, And it was nonsense. Like just looking at

484
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: it on a basic surface level, it doesn't make sense.

485
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: They're really trying to make you believe that me putting

486
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: this mask on for ten.

487
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: Minutes, I'm gonna die.

488
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: It's nonsense. It's nonsense. So I never got anything as

489
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: far as empathy out of Joe.

490
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I got.

491
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Joe doesn't think COVID's real, because he says that in

492
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: the video that he posts, which was the next point.

493
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: He doesn't think COVID's real. He thinks all of this

494
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: is bullshit and it's all just like to strike back

495
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 1: at TED and the government for making them have a

496
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: mask mandate. But so, nah, I disagree with y'all when

497
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: it comes to Joe. So why wasn't he all the

498
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: way on the side of conspiracy. There's what do you mean.

499
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Speaker 4: Because he was somewhere in the like he didn't It's

500
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 4: like he didn't agree with them and the whole conspiracies,

501
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: and he also didn't agree with the whole COVID nineteen thing.

502
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: He was just somewhere in the middle, like, look, man,

503
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 4: it ain't here, goddamn it, Like I don't want to

504
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: wear a mask.

505
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: I disagree one hundred percent. I don't think he was

506
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: acting like that just because it wasn't there. He literally

507
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: said the virus was fake. He literally said that. He

508
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: tells Ted that he thinks it's fake, and then he

509
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: makes a video he's like, why are we wearing a

510
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: mask to protect ourselves from a virus that's not here?

511
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: Right after he tells Ted that he thinks the entire

512
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: thing is fake, So it's not because it's just not

513
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: in Eddington. He doesn't believe in it. Now the mom

514
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: is on a completely different level of conspiracy because there's

515
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: plenty of dumb ass rednecks that were like, oh, COVID's fake,

516
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all talk about, just the cold,

517
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: and then there's motherfuckers that were like, oh, like Alex

518
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Jones were like, oh, it was made in a lab

519
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: and they released it on purpose because they want to

520
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: start a new world order. So there's level there's levels

521
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: of stupid. There's levels of stupid. Joe was only at

522
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: a certain one.

523
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 4: I got you, and I thought it was interesting to

524
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: see the story clap like by kicking them out, because

525
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: I've seen that too.

526
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: I have to COVID home.

527
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, he's really capturing all of

528
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: these moments. I think I may have gave a fuck

529
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: about this more. If this movie was like from like

530
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: ten years from now, I think it was something that

531
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: just happened five years ago. It's it's like, bro, really

532
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: like we just lived through this. I don't need you

533
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 1: to capture a time. My brain works pretty okay, I

534
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: remember all this. Yours does, mine typically does. But it

535
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: was it was interesting, like I do. I have noticed

536
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: people just it really like it, like it didn't even

537
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: fucking happen.

538
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 6: I reflect back up with White, we reflect back on it,

539
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 6: you know. Ever, so them like, damn you walking around

540
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 6: wearing a mask.

541
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: She's like once in a while, we're just like damn this.

542
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: Sally was really ever reflect on that because like you

543
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: don't ever think about it, nah, because I still do it.

544
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Like my mom has lung issues, so I still put

545
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: mask on when I'm around here. So it's not even

546
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: like a like, oh, remember remember a time. See that's

547
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: your personal experience, but that's not the world's experience right now.

548
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't see how you forget something that happened five

549
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: years ago that was a major thing. If you do,

550
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: then you're doing it on purpose.

551
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: It's most people trying to forget.

552
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You're doing it on purpose, you're

553
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: trying to forget it. So him making this movie so soon,

554
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: it's just like for what, Like, I don't need you

555
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: to remind me of some shit that just happened, like

556
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: unless you're making a grand point, which we never in

557
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: my opinion, never got there.

558
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

559
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: Typically, I typically don't like that.

560
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: When they were trying to make all the nine eleven

561
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: movies after nine to eleven, yeah, so I didn't watch

562
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: any of those, but yeah, this one, I don't know

563
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 4: it just I didn't know just what.

564
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: I didn't knowice what this movie was.

565
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: Going to be.

566
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I thought they were misleading me when they were when

567
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: they kept marketing it like it was a Western about COVID.

568
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: I'm I'm like, no, it's Alreaster.

569
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a demon named COVID that comes to

570
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: the earth and possesses people or some shit. It's not

571
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna be about COVID. But when they literally start talking

572
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: about COVID, I was like, dude, are we serious? We

573
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: got another fucking two hours of y'all fucking talking about COVID.

574
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: But anyways, he makes this video, like I said, but

575
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: the main takeaway from the video is we find out

576
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: that he's running from mayor against Ted Garcia. So Ted

577
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: comes down there and confronts him about running.

578
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: What did you think of that part?

579
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Rod?

580
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting because now the whole COVID

581
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: thing is thrown out because you was fucking way less

582
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: than six feet.

583
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Away from his ass. So I thought that was interesting.

584
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: So it kind of lend lended to Joe's point of like, Okay,

585
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: is this just a political thing that you're doing or

586
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: is this actual a threat fear that you have?

587
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 3: Right, right, right?

588
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 6: But they flipped rolls to a certain degride. O. Remember,

589
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: so when he kept getting closer, Joe was like six

590
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 6: feet he was being smart, You're not you thought.

591
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: He was being smart.

592
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: He was being smart ass.

593
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was seriously he was teasing him because

594
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: he was like, come on, six feet I don't think

595
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: he was really like, hey man, you might have COVID

596
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: stay six feet away, because five minutes ago he just

597
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: said it was fake.

598
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: I know, I know, but I thought he was also

599
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 6: misleading the public in a very similar way. Oh I

600
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 6: see that, Ted was because my thing with Joe running

601
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 6: for mayor is that he got caught up when people

602
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 6: were clapping. He was like, oh, ship these people actually

603
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 6: really I feel yeah, you know, so his you know

604
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 6: his thing. Well, no, they were plowing Ted, I think,

605
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: but hewing the guy that kicked him out.

606
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Kicked yeah, behind my back.

607
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: He got caught behind the text message.

608
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that was Facebook posts. Yeah, that was it. Facebook posts. Yeah. Yeah.

609
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 6: So he was like, oh, there's a demand or for

610
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 6: people that should speak up for like the people. There

611
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: needs to be representation for that demography.

612
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: So he go up.

613
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 6: It was fucking I'm gonna run from there because there

614
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 6: must be other people like that that feel the same way.

615
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I never thought that, So that's a good one. I

616
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: never thought that he was faking it to gain popularity.

617
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: I thought he was just a dumb ass, fucking you know,

618
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: because he talked, I don't know if y'all caught it.

619
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Did you catch the fentanyl part in the conversation?

620
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: You don't all know.

621
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: So he's talking about how one of his deputies died

622
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: from handling fentanyl without So if you remember, that was

623
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: another fucking alt right conspiracy that fentanyl was just everywhere.

624
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: And then there were these videos circulating around, which y'all

625
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: probably weren't paying attention to. This kind of shit is

626
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: why would you, But there were these videos floating around

627
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: of cops fucking pretending that they were dying of fentanyl

628
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: because they were like, we just touched a baggie and

629
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: inside the baggie was fentanyl. So there was a little

630
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: bit of fentanyl dust and the cops on the ground

631
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: doing this shit. So this was another one of these

632
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: weird alt right conspiracies that Joe was repeating. One of

633
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: my deputies died from handling fenton all without gloves. That

634
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: doesn't that didn't happen, So.

635
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 6: It more than likely it didn't happen to Joe. But

636
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 6: Joe was getting criticized for not keeping uh cops on

637
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 6: the forest too no, Ted made him get rid of.

638
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Certain costs because they were abusing their power, and Joe

639
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: didn't like that either, because he feels like that should

640
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: be my choice. I think a lot of Joe's issue

641
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: is he wants control, and when control is taken away

642
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: from him, he gets mad. So that's that's how I

643
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: took that part. So, Spike, what'd you think of the

644
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: conversation Joe was having with his son Eric. I don't

645
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: know if you remember this, but there's there back at

646
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: their house. We start to see the facade of Ted

647
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: Krack when he's talking to his son. Do you remember

648
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: his son was trying to.

649
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: Leave and he was like, he asked about his wife

650
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: and he didn't care about her because she left, even

651
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: though like going to be around other people, and you

652
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 5: see him turn the politician off and going to dad

653
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 5: like asshole mode. It does show the crack in the character,

654
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: as you were saying, and make you kind of look

655
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: at him like he's full of shit. So they did

656
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: a good job of portraying it.

657
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Over Rod, did you did you catch any anything as

658
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: far as why?

659
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: Uh?

660
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Ted, I said Joe is having a conversation with I

661
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: met Ted. I meant Ted did you catch anything as

662
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: far as why Ted won't let his son Eric go

663
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: out in the streets.

664
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's it's a bad representation on him.

665
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: It was a California thing that happened, right, That happened

666
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: with Gavin Newsom.

667
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: I believe No.

668
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: So they the town is on lockdown and Eric wanted

669
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: to go out, but Ted thought it would be a

670
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: bad look on him.

671
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying that happened in real life because

672
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: they were the first ones, I think, the implement the

673
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: set downs, and then he was at the party with

674
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: the people like right after he announced it was what Yeah.

675
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: I believe you one hundred percent. Maybe I just don't

676
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: remember that happening. I remember select I do have long COVID,

677
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: so I have that excuse, but I remember that was

678
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: happening with a lot of celebrities. But to be honest,

679
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: at the time, I don't think I even knew wo

680
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom was like that. So so anyway, that's interesting.

681
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Do your answer about this part?

682
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 6: No, I mean we saw we saw them earlier because

683
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: they were out when Joe was going to they were

684
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: smoking reef. He was like, oh yeah, smell reefer in there.

685
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 6: We was going to arrest the homeless guy.

686
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: But he just seemed like a lenient type of sheriff,

687
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: like you know.

688
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, he was which for a while, he was

689
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: like that with with the mask too, you know, you.

690
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: Know he was he walked past me, knew they were smoking.

691
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but but nah, I think they pretty much

692
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 6: covered it.

693
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, it was just really about him.

694
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: But still he let him go, you know, because he's

695
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 6: in a position of privilege of powers, so we can

696
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 6: I could probably cover up or get away with any

697
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 6: of the stuff that happened.

698
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was no Vema of twenty twenty.

699
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: He went to a party at the French Laundry restaurant

700
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: shortly after telling people to I.

701
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Remember that's it?

702
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you not remember that?

703
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 3: What a loser.

704
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: So well, there's a couple of things that also happened

705
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: during that conversation that we haven't touched on. One is

706
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: that Ted is in business with this company that wants

707
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to build data centers. And the whole thing with data

708
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: centers is they suck up resources, they fuck up the water.

709
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: So the town is not happy about that. So we see,

710
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: That's what I meant about the crack starting to show

711
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: with Ted is Ted's not. He presents himself as this

712
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: I love my community, I want to help everybody kind

713
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: of guy. Meanwhile, he's in business with big, big business,

714
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: you know. Also, we find out that Ted used to

715
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: date Louise, and there's this weird half story where Luise

716
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: gets pregnant.

717
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: Six months six months Mike what he kept reiterated, it

718
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: was only six.

719
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: Never touched it, right, he said, we never had sex,

720
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: so I don't know talking about but I'm like dog

721
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: six months that's crazy.

722
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, six months. They never did anything.

723
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: So no, he didn't date it for six months. He

724
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: only went out on one day with her. It was

725
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: like he ended it because she was weird. But he

726
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: said six months later she came back and said she

727
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 5: was Oh that's.

728
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: What you're saying.

729
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that part. I just didn't Yeah, yeah, yeah,

730
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: I knew that part. He stopped sucking with her because

731
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: of them damn dolls. She fuckings like Vallid Vallid. I

732
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: go to your house and you're making them ships. I'm out, bro,

733
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: how good you look?

734
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 3: So yes.

735
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Then we have this this kind of side story with

736
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: this white girl named Sarah who's getting involved in social

737
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: activism this is just after the George Floyd situation, and

738
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: we also meet Brian who apparently has like a weird

739
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: crush on her.

740
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: Ken You did you care about any of this?

741
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: What did they show the George Floyd thing?

742
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: Like they just said it was on TV? It was

743
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: on TV that part.

744
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: I had those off, but I assumed that it was

745
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: George Floyd that happened shortly after the COVID happened.

746
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: They definitely said George Floyd. I thought they just did

747
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: like a random, uh black.

748
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: Brutality type of thing it was.

749
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 5: I think they were watching at the police station if

750
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: I'm not, because they was immediately.

751
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: Trying to defend it, like what it detained for on

752
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: some police.

753
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: I think small towns was actually doing that. Yes, yeah,

754
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: big towns were doing that big towns. When I'm talking

755
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: about like a small country town like that. His question

756
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: is because maybe we're getting confused.

757
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: Defending would b b LM movements in little small country

758
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 4: towns y'all think.

759
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: That defending the BLM? I think you they were attacking

760
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: the BLM. I think most of these places were looking

761
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: at that, like Spike said, and being like, what is

762
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: George Floyd do? Like why are they detaining him. He

763
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: did something wrong? Is that what they were doing? That's

764
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: what he's talking about.

765
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: The kids?

766
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: About the kids, Yeah, yeah, I think that you probably

767
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: had the same vein of kids young woke. Yeah, like, oh,

768
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: we're going to go out and protest too, like you

769
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 5: had in this movie. I think they happened in small

770
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 5: towns too.

771
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got confused, but yes,

772
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: I do think there were there were especially little white

773
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: kids that want to rebel against their family. You know, yeah,

774
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I definitely think I don't know if it was as

775
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: big as the right. It was like a lot of

776
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: it was a little unbelievable exaggerated.

777
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was, it was.

778
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 6: It was definitely intentionally exaggerated. But uh so we're talking

779
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 6: about Sarah Sarah.

780
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess sort of Eric is sort of involved,

781
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: but yeah.

782
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so theyre at this party that meets Sarah.

783
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 6: So you know, I think now, so with with Ted

784
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 6: and and oh old girl, you kind of have of

785
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: sort of maybe like the me too movement coming in here.

786
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 6: Now you got this old George Floyd thing, so now

787
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 6: you got BLM here, and the so called woke virus

788
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: is thrown in here as well as I like to say,

789
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: you got the cops. So this whole thing about the

790
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: institution and now sizes or being picked in terms of

791
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 6: the cops really kind of not understanding what was going

792
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 6: on because they're in a small town. In that town,

793
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 6: they probably don't have to deal with a lot of

794
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 6: those issues that are elsewhere because they're just their own

795
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: sort of community, which is why Michael is kind of

796
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 6: oblivious to everything. So he's kind of bought into or

797
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 6: assimilated into the system of what Eddington is and probably

798
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 6: hasn't in his mind, has really experienced racism like that,

799
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: which is why Sarah was bewildered that he wasn't part

800
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: of them, which probably would get too.

801
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: Later, but.

802
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 6: And you know, that's why also why the white guy

803
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 6: was like, hey, man, like what do you agree with this?

804
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 6: And he just kind of was like, I agree with

805
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 6: what you know. He was just like, I don't, I

806
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: don't get it. So so it's it was it was

807
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 6: Brian who has a secession like he didn't give a

808
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: fuck about anything that she was involved in. He just

809
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: googled the ship and went over to have a conversation

810
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 6: with him because he wasn't sincere or genuine, which is

811
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 6: why Eric was able to kind of come in and

812
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 6: move along because he was probably able to talk about

813
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 6: it or fake it a little bit more than him

814
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: and he became involved in a movement that he really

815
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 6: had no sincerity about. It was just all for chasing

816
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 6: his girl.

817
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: This was crazy. How he googled that fucking book real quick, bro.

818
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the data is the interesting thing about the data.

819
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 6: So the interesting thing about the data center, And the

820
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: first of all, it's the George Floyd thing. What that

821
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 6: was in twenty centre So when I was like, man,

822
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: so much happened like and around that same time frame.

823
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 6: It's freaking nuts, bro, Like you had that happening and

824
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: all this stuff.

825
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was. It was insane.

826
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: But the data centers five years later are now like

827
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 6: AI because even they threw that in this ship. So

828
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 6: you got the because they need these centers in order

829
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 6: to do AI because it uses a lot of energy

830
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 6: and computational power to do it. And there are reports

831
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 6: that these things.

832
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Are really really loud.

833
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 6: And Mike already addressed all the consumption that he's doing

834
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 6: to the to the communities. There have been articles about

835
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 6: that stuff too. So it's a lot in this movie

836
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: that he threw in here.

837
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Uh so.

838
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

839
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: So after Luis gets upset with Joe for running from Mayor,

840
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: we cut to some BLM protests and like Kim was

841
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: talking about, the protesters are trying to get Michael on

842
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: board with joining the fight, and Michael seems very hesitant.

843
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Spike was a fucked up for Sarah to shane Michael

844
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: about this. It was man because he was trying. He

845
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: was trying to be there and be supportive of their cause.

846
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't well read on it. I do agree with

847
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: her there, but she didn't try to take time either.

848
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 6: Like Michael's the cop, not Brian Blocky. Brian was the

849
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 6: one that arranged the fucking pro.

850
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: Oh okay, you the whole thing you're talking about, my

851
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: god from the UK. I mean no, because he's kind

852
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: of oblivious to it, being a cop. Like, what side

853
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: would you expect him to be on? I think it

854
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: was more so her being mad because of them dating

855
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 5: and him not with them not being together anymore, and

856
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 5: she was using that as a conduit to be like

857
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: critical of him. I don't think she really expected him

858
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: to be on the side, which in a small town.

859
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: I get it. I don't agree with it, but I

860
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: get it.

861
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Before I pass this off, I'm just gonna go ahead

862
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: and throw out there it is always, in my opinion,

863
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: wrong for what for people like Sarah to do what

864
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: she did in this mood? You little white motherfucker, you

865
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: have zero and I mean I was pissed. I'm out

866
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: of this zero white to come to me a black

867
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: man and start talking about your representing racism?

868
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: Are you fucking insane? There were about three times in

869
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: this movie I was like, what Mike is gonna be?

870
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: I was annoying.

871
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I think Sarah's heart was in the right place, but no,

872
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: like I agree with her, he is backing up a

873
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: racist system, but I don't think that's her place, especially

874
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: in public with a whole bunch of other white people.

875
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: You got no fucking right to go up to a

876
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: black man and be like, you need to take that off.

877
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: You're representing racism and you need to be part of this.

878
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Why aren't you taking a knee?

879
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Motherfucker? What she was passionate to.

880
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: She believed that she she said this in real life before.

881
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: I believe that she said this in real life to

882
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: somebody before. She was too believable with this, like it

883
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: seemed like improv It ain't even seem like I don't know, man,

884
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: she was going, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a

885
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: bit triggering, but it was fun and it was like

886
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: interesting why I said it seems so real because she

887
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: had conflict in saying it and like, and I know

888
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be saying this, but she was just.

889
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: Kind of going all doing all of the things, all

890
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: of the things that we've seen on TV or in

891
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: real life.

892
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: Definitely in real life, I've seen this and I'm I'm

893
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: looking at motherfucker's real side eye, like, bro, you don't

894
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: want my opinion right now because I'm gonna hurt your feelings.

895
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: And that's how he was looking to you, like.

896
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: Or he really wasn't processing what the fuck she was saying.

897
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah he did. I think he was just so far

898
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: removed from it.

899
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: He was like like what, No, I think he was

900
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: thinking about it, really, yeah, I think he was thinking

901
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: about cross his mind. It hasn't until that moment. I

902
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: think when she said it, he stopped in thought and

903
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, she might be right, she was right,

904
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: but she still had no right right ship to a

905
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: black man in front of a whole bunch of white people.

906
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fuck what protest you're at.

907
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: Anyways, so we cut back to to Joe's house and Spike,

908
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: we meet Vernon Jefferson Peak. I forget the actors name

909
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: in real life, but apparently he's a big deal. I'm

910
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 1: not super familiar with him, but h Louis Louis brought

911
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: him some of his cult members home. So what did

912
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: you think about the conversations that went down during de fault?

913
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: It probably did? What did he do?

914
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: It was so so uh Joe had made Louise promise

915
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: that she would have dinner with him because she was

916
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna leave him over the video. Oh no, no, I

917
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: remember this, Okay, yeah, yeah, that real weird dude came

918
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: around started looking in their house and stuff before I

919
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: go there real because I thought was one of the

920
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: funniest things for me was when dude went back to

921
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: his house and was having dinner with his dad and

922
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: explained it to him.

923
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 3: About you're a white you're white.

924
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: Laugh.

925
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: I was laughing, So I was the only person in

926
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: the theater that laughed loud.

927
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: That was the only part I laughed at out good,

928
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: but that.

929
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: It happens it was like, bro, what are you doing?

930
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: Like you're white, you were speaking out against your own race,

931
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 6: which is how we kind of are where we are today.

932
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 6: A lot of that sentiment has started to kind of,

933
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 6: you know, replicate that's hilarious. But no, I just this

934
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 6: way started to turn for me in the sense of, Okay,

935
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 6: I'm picking up what you're putting down.

936
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: I get it.

937
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: Where are we gonna go with it? And then it

938
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: starts slowly started heading nowhere like this scene right here.

939
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 5: None of this made sense to me. I didn't care

940
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 5: about it. I didn't care that his wife was crazy.

941
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: I didn't care about the cold. I don't care if

942
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: she runs away. None of that mattered to me because

943
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: just Emma Stone hadn't put in enough time on screen

944
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: for me to be compassionate with the character like it

945
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 5: just it was weird. So you agree with that, Rod,

946
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 5: I think it was more so not about her, and

947
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: more and so about what it was gonna do to Joe.

948
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what they That's what the hitch was.

949
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't about emm the Stone.

950
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: It was like, how is it it was gonna affect

951
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: him and how he snaps and how he gets to

952
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: where he gets to in the movie. So that's why

953
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: I didn't really have a problem with it, because it

954
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: was more so about him.

955
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: Well you know, and also I think, again there's a

956
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 6: lot in here. So now you've bringing in the religious

957
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 6: aspect of it. So you know, she's our guess is

958
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 6: upset with Joe because her and dawna kind of like

959
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 6: anti government, you know, anti you know, all these conspiracy theories,

960
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: and here.

961
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: He is.

962
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 6: A running for to participate in this system. But he

963
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 6: wanted to do it and what he thought was his way,

964
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 6: and it was going to be the right way because

965
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 6: he was going to be anti government. That was his

966
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 6: whole thing, you know, in running against Ted and was

967
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: all on his trucks and stuff like that. So but

968
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 6: it also shows that people like that can also be

969
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 6: very vulnerable to outside institutions.

970
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: And here come this other guy.

971
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 6: Because she's consuming a lot of this stuff, so here

972
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 6: came this other guy who can take advantage of somebody

973
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 6: that's longing and looking for somebody else that's vulnerable. She

974
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 6: has a mom that's instilling a lot of these thoughts

975
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 6: and ideas in her head, and she's formulating her own

976
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 6: and then she goes through what sounds like a traumatic event,

977
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 6: so she could easily be, you know, possibly manipulated, and

978
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 6: here he comes. So then you have this cult like

979
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 6: religious act respect of virus now present in the movie.

980
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: So I slightly disagree with y'all. I think this whole

981
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: scene was all about Louise. I don't think it really

982
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: had anything much to do with Joe at all. This

983
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: was really a catalyst for us to figure out what's

984
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: going on with Louise, because prior to this, we don't

985
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: know what happened to Louise. We know she had some

986
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of trauma, but we don't know the details at all.

987
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: But when Vernon.

988
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Starts talking about he was one of ten kids that

989
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: was strip naked and they were sent out and their

990
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: dad was gonna hunt them, and you know, but he escaped,

991
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: and then Louise starts talking about pedophiles and she starts

992
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: hinting that it was her father that touched her. So

993
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't really like this, because it was

994
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: just like, I'm with Spike more than I think I've

995
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: ever been with Spike. She had not put in enough

996
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: screen time for me to really care that much about

997
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: how this affects the story because if we had been

998
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: given a movie where it's a standard Emma Stone performance,

999
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: which is typically fucking great, then I would have been

1000
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: far more interested with what happened. But she's barely been

1001
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: in the film, and when she is there, it only

1002
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: seems like she's there to service Joe. So it's like,

1003
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't care really, So but when she starts talking

1004
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: about the fact that you know she was touched in

1005
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: some way, and then you know, if you couple that

1006
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: with how Dawn treats the Dead Father like she's so

1007
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: worshiping of this man, it was like, Bro, you're throwing

1008
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: all these things into this film only for you to

1009
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: drop them shits off a cliff with not even a

1010
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: book in the water, because we don't know anything and

1011
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: you took it nowhere. So this whole shit irritated the fuck.

1012
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Out of me. So I.

1013
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: Because even even Joe asked when she fell asleep. I

1014
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 6: first I thought the guy. I thought the Colt leader

1015
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 6: was lying about. And I thought when she was telling

1016
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 6: that story, she was talking about Ted, and and oh

1017
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 6: you thought for that, yeah I did. I thought she

1018
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 6: was talking about Ted and not her dad. Until Joe

1019
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 6: asked the question, I was like, oh, I probably, but

1020
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 6: then we kind of moved on. But I think that

1021
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 6: was enough to get her away from from Joe, which

1022
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 6: is where I I'm with Ride on this. It served

1023
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: as a trigger, another trigger point for Joe later on

1024
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 6: in the movie, but yeah, now his wife is gone.

1025
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: It does. But I think I was disagreeing with the

1026
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: with the idea that this didn't really have anything to

1027
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: do with anybody but Joe, like, I don't think if

1028
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: you if we had this and maybe you didn't say

1029
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: that exact phrase, if we didn't have this scene, I

1030
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: don't think we would have the idea that Louise was

1031
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: touched by anybody really like that. She kind of made

1032
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: a reference to this earlier in the film when they

1033
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: were at the dinner table, but she didn't make it

1034
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: very clear until this scene. So I feel like they

1035
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: brought Vernon in here just for this. And at the

1036
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm not saying I don't obviously,

1037
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: so somebody says anything stupid, I'm not saying I don't

1038
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: care about women being assaulted. I just didn't particularly care

1039
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: in this movie because it was like, I don't even

1040
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: really know how she fits in with this story because

1041
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: she hasn't done anything that still circles back to Joe,

1042
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: even that part, because that's what he later on in

1043
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: your notes. I'm sure that's what he uses for his campaign. Yeah,

1044
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying, but I'm saying this had

1045
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: to do with Louise. What I'm saying is that if

1046
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: this scene had not been there, then Joe would have

1047
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: had nothing to even react to. Yeah, which is why

1048
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I was there. Maybe I'm not following you.

1049
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying it's the scene is still needed, Yeah, to

1050
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: set up what happens with Joe later.

1051
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

1052
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's just solely that we get something

1053
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: out of it, because that circles back later to when

1054
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: he sees her.

1055
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1056
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: But I thought you were saying this was all about Joe. No,

1057
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: it sets up Joe for later, right. I used it

1058
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: as a setup for Joe later. I looked at it.

1059
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: I didn't even look that deep into it.

1060
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying, like, like, I do feel like

1061
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 4: Emma Stone was unutilized here in this movie, but this

1062
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: what that to this extent too.

1063
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: Where she was, you know, used to set up the

1064
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: rest of his story. Okay, gotcha, sol Yeah, I'm with

1065
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: you on that, And that was again part of my issue.

1066
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: It's like, why are y'all doing everything to fucking service Joe,

1067
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Like even Pedro Pascal. It's like, Bro, as good of

1068
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: an actor as he is, all he's doing is being

1069
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: like a fucking half assed.

1070
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: Sidekick for this story.

1071
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: This shit aggravated me anyway. So after he watches a

1072
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: video of Portland police in a gunfight with Antifa, there's

1073
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: a conversation amongst the cops about what's going on, and

1074
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: we have Guy, the white cop. He's asking Michael if

1075
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: he understands it.

1076
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: He was so.

1077
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 5: Condescending throughout this whole film. Guy he had a white

1078
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 5: dude from a Yellowstone.

1079
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: Uh, it was.

1080
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: It was.

1081
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: It was irritating, but it was also good how he

1082
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: was doing it, because he was coming off as if

1083
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 5: he did it like he was being genuine in asking

1084
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: these like condescending asked questions.

1085
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: You don't think he was. I think he was genuinely

1086
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: that stupid.

1087
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: Spike, that's what they were trying to portray.

1088
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know for a fact, but that's how

1089
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: I took it. I don't think he was being condescending,

1090
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: because condescending typically applies some sort of knowledgence.

1091
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: Got it.

1092
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I think that this dude is really that stupid where

1093
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't understand this.

1094
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: Do you get it? I mean, you're black? Do you

1095
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: under understanding it? Can you explain it to me?

1096
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

1097
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: That makes yeah, that makes sense, y'all, y'all are y'all

1098
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: are problem was.

1099
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 6: A small country town isolated from the world, and all

1100
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 6: of this stuff is being they're being exposed to it,

1101
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 6: you know, via social media and television, so yeah, and

1102
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: then it hit is the highest level of it, yeah,

1103
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 6: and eventually infects that town in his own way as well,

1104
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 6: So he he doesn't know what the fuss going on

1105
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 6: because they don't have that they haven't really had to

1106
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: deal with that ship. So he's like, and I'm sure

1107
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 6: kind of what where I was asking earlier, Like there

1108
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 6: are a lot of towns that just go about their

1109
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 6: own damn way, don't care about the outside world, and

1110
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 6: then they don't understand why people are reacting the way

1111
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 6: that they are. So that's why he went to the

1112
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: black I was like, do you understand maybe you can

1113
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 6: share some insight because you're black. So you you can relate.

1114
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 6: The question I have is that that Portland story was

1115
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 6: made up, right, Shi, it was.

1116
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: Real about what happened in actual real life. Yeah, they

1117
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: took over the town for a while, ye'all didn't. I

1118
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: don't remember.

1119
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't either. That's what took over a town.

1120
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: You've been here, shootout like that that happened.

1121
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember.

1122
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 3: Okay, let me look this up, he asked him.

1123
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: Did he tell him at one point I didn't even

1124
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: see you as black before this that comes in later.

1125
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So let's go ahead and get to

1126
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: the to the part where Brian's telling Michael to take

1127
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: a knee.

1128
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: Kim, would you.

1129
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: Where did you get from this part? And was it

1130
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: weird when all the white people started to kneel?

1131
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very weird.

1132
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 6: It was very weird, weird that they started to take

1133
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 6: a knee. And this was like when they was in

1134
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 6: a row. This is before the riot part happened, right,

1135
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 6: because remember they threw the window.

1136
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: Because remember Joe was going to his campaign.

1137
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I think because I think they told him to

1138
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: settle down, and this was the way they told him. Yeah,

1139
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: I think in the background those argue that busted windows.

1140
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, because it was getting out of hand.

1141
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: It was chaos.

1142
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 6: Remember the first time he ran into them, they were

1143
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 6: That's when Sarah was yelling at him, and then they

1144
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 6: took me, right.

1145
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: I think, I think this is all the same.

1146
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: There was no There were two different protest parts. There

1147
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: was one part where Sarah was chastising Michael about why

1148
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: are you on that side? But then there was another

1149
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: part where they were basically all kind of arguing with Michael.

1150
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: They were picking up Michael in both protest scenes.

1151
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the second one.

1152
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: The second one.

1153
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the one where David gets involved, and

1154
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: David's the one that's chastising Michael.

1155
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 6: Now okay, okay, yeah, because because also yeah okay, So

1156
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 6: so at this point then we see.

1157
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: The are not David Bryan, I don't know, the.

1158
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: Homeless guys started to go through.

1159
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Yes.

1160
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: So now this whole b l M.

1161
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 6: Liberal sort of thing that they're doing is basically been

1162
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 6: You can see that as being effected with this sort

1163
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 6: of stuff from the outside world as well. So they're

1164
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 6: doing all of this stuff and yelling at Michael and

1165
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 6: all this other stuff. Ted's son is being a dick

1166
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 6: talking about what his dad did to you.

1167
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: Know, his wife. Yeah, just all very disrespectful.

1168
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 6: And Brian, who did this for his own completely selfish reasons,

1169
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 6: you know, is losing because because I forgot Joe said

1170
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 6: something to the son what's his name, Eric, Yeah, and

1171
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 6: made him cry.

1172
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: He went off to cry Sarah. So he's being.

1173
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: Consoled over there, and Brian's looking at that. It's like,

1174
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 6: what the fuck is going on? Like, I'm supposed to

1175
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 6: be the one that's kind of because he's.

1176
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: The one that started this whole shit. He's the one

1177
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: that started the.

1178
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 6: Protest, so he's jealous, and his jealousy leads to another

1179
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 6: part that happens later on in the movie. But for

1180
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 6: him to sit there and get in his face and

1181
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 6: try to tell him what he should do, and he

1182
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 6: doesn't understand when he's not even a real believer in

1183
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 6: the cause himself, he's only doing that for his own

1184
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 6: selfish reasons. It's like, bro, what the fuck? But this

1185
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 6: is what happens. Sometimes you do have people in this

1186
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 6: movement that were in there for nefarias or alternative reasons.

1187
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 6: They're not even they don't even care about the ship.

1188
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 6: They're just there to service their own their own personal

1189
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 6: games and needs, and that's what this guy was doing.

1190
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 1: M Spike was wearing all the white people. Neil. Yes,

1191
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: it was reminded me of that picture of Congress and

1192
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: everybody was like what.

1193
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 5: So it definitely reminded me of that this is how

1194
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: we protest, this is how fuck off.

1195
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: Man.

1196
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 5: This is a bunch of yeah, yeah, that happened in

1197
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 5: August of twenty twenty, and the teeth thing important.

1198
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: What what town?

1199
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: I'll later, but I did two people die to activists

1200
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: were killed by police.

1201
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

1202
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 6: I that's amazing that we're still walking around, man, black

1203
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 6: fols shooting up.

1204
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: The police said, no, it was Antifa. That was like

1205
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: typical Antifa members were were not members, but you know

1206
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: people that represent Antifa are usually white.

1207
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: I thought they kind of started to blend the two together, connect.

1208
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: The two the Republicans because they started they didn't know

1209
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: what the fuck Antifa even was, so they were trying

1210
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: to make it seem like it was an organization, just

1211
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: like Black Lives Matter, which y'all all fell for. This

1212
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: is an organization, which it's not, just like BLM is

1213
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: not an organization it's a mindset. So it's antifa. Antifa

1214
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: just means anti fascist. I could be considered an Antifa member,

1215
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 1: but there's no fucking card, there's no fees, news, there's

1216
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: no membership. It's just do you do you think that

1217
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: fascists are terrible?

1218
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

1219
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: Cool, you're Antifa?

1220
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember all that. But they work connect the

1221
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 6: Antifa into the Black Lives Matter.

1222
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: They were the same. We did it in here, right,

1223
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Maybe, well yeah they did. They did.

1224
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Yes, you're right, Spike, they did.

1225
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, uh, Rod was weird when Joe

1226
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: recorded that video saying Ted sexually abused Louise and got

1227
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: her pregnant.

1228
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Force to the aboth the kid, and why did he

1229
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: do that?

1230
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: It was absolutely weird. He was just trying to get leverage.

1231
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 4: He thought that was gonna a scandal, would would give

1232
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: him leverage to uh, to get ahead of him in

1233
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 4: the in the in the running, but it, you know,

1234
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: ended up just kind of backfiring on him. Honestly, I

1235
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: was gonna bring up something else before this part. Mm hmmm,

1236
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: because we didn't. We didn't talk about like when he

1237
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 4: decided to campaign and he was he drew on the

1238
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: board because that comes around later.

1239
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to skip over I got you, I

1240
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: got you.

1241
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: It just comes up later. But but anyway, so.

1242
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed really weird.

1243
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really weird vibe what he was doing.

1244
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: Even the people in there just like you know what

1245
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, why are you you know, bringing up

1246
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 4: of that? But but now I feel like people that

1247
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: that's another glimpse of stuff.

1248
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: Like people use that type of thing too to.

1249
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: Get ahead of their they're running there, the person they're

1250
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: running against, They'll they'll use like these allegations and and

1251
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: things like that.

1252
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, it.

1253
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: Was very true. Like I said, true to life. I

1254
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't realize. I didn't know why he was

1255
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 4: just being so direct with this movie.

1256
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: I was.

1257
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: I was really the whole time looking for is there

1258
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: a deeper thing that I'm supposed to be catching because

1259
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: this is just you're just giving us a glimpse at

1260
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: how how politics and all this stuff.

1261
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 6: Goes, well, just the world of humanity in general. But

1262
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 6: I was really trying to figure out, like, wait, why

1263
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 6: did you just say that? But I think you know,

1264
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 6: Joe was driven by ego and Joe.

1265
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the.

1266
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 6: Things he said when he walked in was like, oh,

1267
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 6: I thought it was gonna be bigger. Like his campaign

1268
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 6: doesn't work. People aren't latching onto any to what he's doing.

1269
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 6: So now he's like, well, let me try to go

1270
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 6: to a scandal. And he probably he just heard that

1271
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 6: message too from the religious guy, right, this came after that,

1272
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 6: so maybe maybe he saw the cult leader use it

1273
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 6: and it worked for him, so maybe he was trying

1274
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 6: to use that for his own Babe. I'm just now

1275
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 6: thinking about this now. I din't think about you know,

1276
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 6: at the time, the dots.

1277
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: The story he told what was the pedophiles, because I

1278
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know why he did it, And I was like,

1279
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: why the fuck you even do that? He did that

1280
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: because again, he doesn't like being out of control. He

1281
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: doesn't like the fact that everyone's just kind of like

1282
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: overtaking what he thinks should be his. He wants the

1283
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: political power in that town, but Ted is clearly winning now,

1284
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: BLM is here, the Blacks Lives Matter is now here.

1285
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't like that ship, so he's like, what the

1286
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: fuck can I do? Boom, I'm gonna use my wife's

1287
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: trauma to further my political career.

1288
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's horrible.

1289
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: Was it weird spy that Louise left and made a

1290
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: video saying Joe was lying?

1291
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 5: Definitely and for her to stay gone too, like that

1292
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 5: being a final straw that breaks the camel's back and

1293
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: her not wanting it into public consumption like that and

1294
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 5: him not caring about that at all. That was one

1295
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 5: of the biggest that this is when it really really

1296
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 5: was turning for me. I was like, what's the motive?

1297
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 5: Cause at one point in time, like you said, it

1298
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 5: seemed like political power. Then it just seemed like I

1299
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 5: just want to be popular and on top and like

1300
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 5: I'll do everybody, which led to the rest of the

1301
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: shit that I didn't.

1302
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 6: Get what she was So I was still confused by

1303
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 6: this whole her whole storyline, because I was like, Okay,

1304
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: she made the video, she doing this to save face,

1305
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 6: like cause it made it seem like don was just

1306
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 6: lying about the whole thing because maybe she had some

1307
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 6: reservation about her daughter being in this relationship and then

1308
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 6: she made the video or was all of that shit

1309
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 6: just made up?

1310
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: Which shit? Just the whole thing with Ted and Louise.

1311
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that was made up.

1312
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Louise was molested by her father, so that's why Don

1313
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: was covering it up.

1314
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 6: So Don got it because she was sixteen, right, I

1315
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 6: don't remember how old she was, so Don was.

1316
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: Using Ted to cover up with got him? Cool? Kay?

1317
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: Right now?

1318
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: Don did not want anything to besmirch the memory of

1319
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: her beloved husband, which is why we saw his picture

1320
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: like large. But you see Luise doesn't fuck with that.

1321
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: She's not looking at it and talking about, oh I

1322
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: missed my dad, you know, excuse me? Damn uh she is.

1323
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: She is tired of the mom's ship. She's been under

1324
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: her mom's thumb forever. The mom has been covering it up.

1325
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: She can't take it anymore. So that's why she leaves

1326
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: and she puts the video on saying that Joe was lying.

1327
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: Got it? Okay?

1328
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1329
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: Rob? What'd you think about what went down when Joe

1330
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: was sent to Ted's house for the noise complaint?

1331
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: What do I think went down? What do you think

1332
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: about what went down?

1333
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: No?

1334
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no no no no no no no.

1335
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: I was I was just trying to process.

1336
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 4: Like I knew this was going to happen. I knew

1337
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: he was going to turn it off and he was

1338
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 4: just gonna turn it back on. I don't know why

1339
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: I knew that was going.

1340
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: To have this basic storytelling.

1341
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was.

1342
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: Just like, he's just going to turn it back on,

1343
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever.

1344
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: What I did not expect to happen like twice did?

1345
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: He said like two or three times it was a

1346
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: bitch slap too, that it wasn't even hard. That's what

1347
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: it was, like a bitch that's like, yeah, it was

1348
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: like it didn't, it didn't. Joaquin's amazing acting skills. He

1349
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: was just like he responded like how anyone would respond

1350
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: if somebody slapped in your mouth. I think I got

1351
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: a natural reaction of like a shove or something, you

1352
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think that would be my

1353
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: natural reaction.

1354
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: I guess for us. Yeah, but JA came then, I

1355
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 2: guess Joe wasn't. I guess.

1356
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he striked me a little bit, as somebody would

1357
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 5: have like tried to bunk back a little bit.

1358
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: Not me.

1359
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: Really, you saw him fighting the homeless dude earlier, right,

1360
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: don't wonder that's.

1361
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: Why he slapped because he knew He's like, he knew

1362
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: he was a bit ship.

1363
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Ted is a fighter like that either.

1364
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: But I think Ted was just tired of Joe ship.

1365
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: He was tired of Joe ship. But I forgot about

1366
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: he witnessed Joe.

1367
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 6: He did, but also Ted, Joe lost a lot of

1368
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 6: leverage once that video came out.

1369
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a wrap. Yeah, and remember he didn't ye.

1370
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: Remember he walked into his speech.

1371
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 6: I thought it was gonna be a lot larger crowd

1372
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 6: here than what it was and Ted got houses packed.

1373
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: Everybody's at okay, it makes more sense. So Joe now

1374
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: realizing he's because completely lost.

1375
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: I had Doe.

1376
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 5: I would like noding to this point, but the smack

1377
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 5: woke me up and I was like, he woke too,

1378
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 5: I thought exactly. I was like, okay, so something there

1379
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 5: has to be some resolution to this. I was surprised

1380
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 5: when he walked away and didn't do nothing, but it did.

1381
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: Now.

1382
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 5: I was up and like locked in because I knew

1383
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 5: something was gonna happen.

1384
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 6: Well, it was crazy because isn't that assault, Like you

1385
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 6: assaulted a police officer, which is crazy in front of

1386
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 6: all of these people. Yeah, but also Ted has leverage

1387
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 6: to do that because he was just accused of something

1388
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 6: that he didn't do. The accuser came out and said

1389
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 6: it never happened, and.

1390
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: Yes it's assault of a police officer, But who the

1391
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: fuck has Joe's back except for guy. Everybody in that

1392
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: town fucks with Ted, even with the mask mandate. Shit,

1393
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: the town fucks with Ted. And Joe knows that Ted

1394
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: has the money behind him because he's a part of

1395
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: this whole committee that's trying to install these data centers.

1396
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: So Joe can't do shit to Ted. But who Joe

1397
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: could do some shit to is the uh, houseless house

1398
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: free guy. Uh what do you think about when.

1399
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: Went down at the bar Spike?

1400
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 5: This was was all the way out of conspiral, out

1401
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 5: of control for me, and I was like, bro, what

1402
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 5: is happening right now?

1403
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: Because one.

1404
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 5: After we've sit here and talked about it, and it

1405
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 5: leading up to every all of those frustrating things.

1406
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: I get where he shoots the police.

1407
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 5: I mean the homeless dude, and maybe tries to dispose

1408
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 5: of the body, which he probably didn't have to do.

1409
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 5: That's why I was like, why is he doing all

1410
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 5: of this? He could just say he did something like

1411
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 5: police do all the fucking time, and then they'll come

1412
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 5: get the body and you're good. But yeah, this was

1413
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 5: from here on out. I didn't understand anything.

1414
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: From here on out. I was like, bro, what is happening?

1415
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: What about you?

1416
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Rod Nah?

1417
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: I think this is probably like some of the most

1418
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 4: interesting parts of the of the movie for me, Like

1419
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying, Spike. It just it started

1420
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: getting like super chaotic. But this was interesting because I

1421
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 4: thought it would it would get into some some more.

1422
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: This is the actual like like this, we got into some.

1423
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: Ship and it was forced action though like all of

1424
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 5: this stuff, like he could have just left him there.

1425
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was forced because it was

1426
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 5: a build up to it, and then he had just

1427
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 5: lost So this is him snapping.

1428
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is him snapping.

1429
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: This is him breaking, and and I like, I fucked

1430
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: with the break like this, this was more so what

1431
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: I expect to see when I come to.

1432
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: An ari Astra film.

1433
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 4: I got, okay, this, this this is what I what

1434
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: I what I came for. After an hour and see,

1435
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 4: I would have been here for the break, but something

1436
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: happened later on that made it seem like it was

1437
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: more diabolical.

1438
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: He had a plan and I know we'll get to it,

1439
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: but like, are you crazy?

1440
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 5: Are you crazy, and did you snap or was this

1441
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 5: a pro like this this out that I was about

1442
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 5: to say, it was both. So it was just like, damn,

1443
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: you didn't think that he was actually thinking about it

1444
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 5: like this, because even when he told the black officer

1445
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 5: of the shoot, it's like he thought these things through

1446
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 5: a little bit exactly. But then it was also presented

1447
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 5: as oh, he just snapped.

1448
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so's it's both though it's both, which which

1449
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: is kind of what happens like right with with with

1450
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: with like terrorist actions or people that that snap. Right,

1451
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: It's like it's both. It's like they got to a

1452
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: breaking point, but they also thought it through a little bit,

1453
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's very it was

1454
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 4: very like, I don't want to say reminiscent to that,

1455
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 4: but like you know, it was very on on on.

1456
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 6: I think his his decision to cover it up was

1457
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 6: interesting because they I don't think he did a good job.

1458
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 6: You know, you floated a body down a river that

1459
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 6: should if it doesn't seem reserved somewhere, somebody's gonna find it.

1460
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 6: I didn't understand that part, but the way he kept

1461
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 6: staring at him, I was like.

1462
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna shoot this bom I did too.

1463
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: And he shot him.

1464
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, but who really cares about you know,

1465
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 6: people like that, so you can easily get away with that.

1466
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 6: So I was like, okay, well, you know, and you know,

1467
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 6: he started kind of digging the bullets out and stuff

1468
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 6: like that. But every since that guy came into town,

1469
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 6: shit just kind of went crazy. He so, and now

1470
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 6: Joe is at his breaking point because his whole world

1471
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 6: is crazy, is basically turned upside down too.

1472
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: So, and it started with him wrestling on the ground

1473
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: with with that with that.

1474
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: Guy, you know, speaking of that, like, I thought it

1475
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 4: was also I think brilliance a strong word, but I

1476
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 4: thought it was. I thought it was it was cool

1477
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 4: to see him gradually get sicker, like he was just

1478
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 4: cough here and there. That cough just kept getting worse

1479
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 4: and worse. And so I thought that was an interesting

1480
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 4: note that they did in this movie and attest to,

1481
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 4: you know, the acting skills of Joaquin, like showing that

1482
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: he's getting you know, sicker and sicker.

1483
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, because it correlates to with with like the progression

1484
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 6: of the movie in terms of like the infection of

1485
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 6: the virus and everything that's going on here on on

1486
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 6: all the different levels, so you know, so he kills him,

1487
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 6: and you.

1488
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: Know, and that was it.

1489
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 6: So it made sense for him to He couldn't do

1490
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 6: shit to Ted, so he took it out somebody that

1491
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 6: couldn't defend themselves. But that's also yelling at him as well,

1492
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 6: so that was his way of acting out and snapping,

1493
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 6: and he just he just killed him, and that's the

1494
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 6: way he's taking his anger up.

1495
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1496
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: I didn't like the scene either, because I was I

1497
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing. Spike was just saying, why

1498
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: are we bothering to clean up this body? What are

1499
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: we doing? I thought he was gonna shoot the homeless

1500
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: man and then frame Ted for doing it because it

1501
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: was at Ted's bar, But instead he fucking pulls the

1502
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: bullets out, takes homeless man drump, dumps him in a river,

1503
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: and then I was like why, And if I remember correctly,

1504
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't even think this came back around later after

1505
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Ted is killed, So I was just like, what the fuck?

1506
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: But did y'all notice what the homeless man was saying?

1507
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 6: I can't remember, but I was definitely wanted to pay

1508
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 6: attention to what he was saying because at this I

1509
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 6: started to realize that this homeless man kind of played

1510
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 6: a role in the movie.

1511
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: But what was he saying.

1512
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: He was saying, I'm gonna infect everyone, was it? And

1513
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: then he also says when he's drinking the liquor, he says,

1514
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: everything tastes the same m m oh. So I was like, oh,

1515
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: he has COVID. Okay, so he is the COVID monster

1516
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 1: And I guess this is when he infects Joe, which

1517
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. So it cuts to Ted's house where

1518
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: he's arguing with his son about a purse, and some

1519
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: shit went down.

1520
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 3: Spike was just enough action for you? Hell no, because

1521
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1522
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: It just seemed like.

1523
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 5: Him doing it out of the and I don't know

1524
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 5: it's out of the blue, but.

1525
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 3: I didn't see.

1526
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 5: I didn't know that he had thought it out well

1527
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 5: enough to do what he did later and frame somebody

1528
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 5: for it. I thought it was part of just the

1529
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 5: trajecty of him spiraling and he's like, okay, I killed once.

1530
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 5: Now I can just go shoot them from long range.

1531
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 5: And it just wasn't suspenseful enough for me, Like it

1532
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 5: was just like it seemed random as hello, you agree

1533
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 5: with that?

1534
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: Rob?

1535
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: No again?

1536
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: And just didn't seem it didn't seem random to me.

1537
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: It seemed like a man that got to a breaking

1538
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking aboutready, It seemed like a man

1539
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 4: that got to a breaking point.

1540
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: I was like, I said, it was a shock, dude.

1541
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 4: These were the old ship moments I was talking about,

1542
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 4: like I did say oh shit, like like when I.

1543
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, man, he just killed this motherfucker, like

1544
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and oh.

1545
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: He just killed his son.

1546
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 4: Even if Song's reaction was was crazy, it was realistic,

1547
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 4: like when he missed him the first time and he's like,

1548
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 4: oh shit, he tried to get away, but he actually

1549
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 4: end up shooting his ass too. Did you immediately think

1550
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: it was him? No, I thought it was the I

1551
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: thought it was the black cop because they had showed it.

1552
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 4: Because because they showed him, he was practiced early.

1553
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: He was practicing earlier.

1554
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was. And by now he has saw

1555
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: the picture too.

1556
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the picture, so it was it was a misdirection.

1557
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 5: They originally thought it was him because he thought it

1558
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 5: was a black eye too. No, okay, because he was

1559
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 5: bragging too, Joel about how you know he was progressing,

1560
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 5: and I didn't think did the black cop will be

1561
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 5: able to do it?

1562
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: But then my mind media went to Joe. Yeah, I

1563
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: didn't think it was Joe.

1564
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: When I saw him behind the rifle, I was like, oh, ship,

1565
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: that was Joe.

1566
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was gonna go. I didn't think

1567
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: he was gonna snap like that.

1568
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: What'd you think him?

1569
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with Rod, I was. I didn't see

1570
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: this coming at all.

1571
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 6: I thought we were just done with with the homeless guy.

1572
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: I was.

1573
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 6: I was like, so when testing and there talking and

1574
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 6: then the bullet come through, I was like, what the fuck?

1575
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 6: And then was a was tend like, oh, Ted has

1576
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: lost it. I mean, Joe has lost it, But where

1577
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 6: the fuck is this going? Like, how's he gonna throw

1578
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 6: this up? Because you are his primary like opponent in

1579
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 6: this whole thing. You don't like him, so everybody will

1580
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 6: suspect you, and you just got slapped. I think that

1581
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 6: was the thing that confused me. You just got slapped

1582
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 6: around of everybody, and now this guy, now you're shooting

1583
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 6: this guy, everybody's gonna think it's you. So I'm thinking ahead.

1584
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 6: I was like, this doesn't make any sense for why

1585
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 6: he did this. And then he shot the other guy.

1586
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, you're not a good shot either,

1587
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 6: but then he got him because but then I remember

1588
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 6: he also was bragging like he's a really good shot.

1589
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 6: He was like, oh yeah, you, and you ain't as

1590
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 6: good as me.

1591
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: So I was really curuous.

1592
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, how the hell he's gonna get

1593
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 6: out of this? And then you walked someone walked in

1594
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 6: and like he's thorough. He got the shoes on, he's

1595
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 6: digging the bullets out, and then he had the paint.

1596
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 6: I was like, what the fuck's he gonna paint? He's

1597
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 6: gonna paint over the bullet. Oh know what he was doing?

1598
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 2: But watch I didn't know what that was.

1599
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:30,839
Speaker 3: That was planted.

1600
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: So the purse was Sarah's purse. He put it there.

1601
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: He put it, He broke in and put it there. Yes,

1602
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: so this was That's where I'm with you, Spike. This

1603
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: was planned, and it was kind of planned to a

1604
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: meticulous point where it started to get a little ridiculous

1605
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: for me. But yes, he broke in put Sarah's purse there,

1606
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: which I don't know where he got Sarah's purse. But

1607
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: then after he kills Ted and Eric, he puts on

1608
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: the walls, no.

1609
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: Justice, no peace, it's just the Black Lives batter check.

1610
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so that is to direct the Black Lives Matter

1611
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: folks or like make them the main suspect.

1612
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 5: But so yeah, so they should have did better, Shuan,

1613
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 5: how much time, Like was it right after he killed

1614
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 5: the homeless dad? Have no fucking because to come up

1615
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 5: with this elaborate ass playing it just didn't.

1616
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 6: It was like, wait, he took the watch from the house, right, yeah.

1617
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: And planted it.

1618
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 5: But even doing the Black Lives Matter thing and knowing

1619
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 5: that the black guy had been practicing his shot, it

1620
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 5: seemed like he had been thinking about that for a while.

1621
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 3: It's like, I won't direct himness way.

1622
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he was. Well, actually, maybe you're right, Spike.

1623
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: I never I never thought that he was trying to

1624
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: set Michael up until later. Yeah, I thought he was,

1625
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: But that might be why he put Sarah's herst there

1626
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: because he knew that. But that also doesn't really make

1627
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: any sense because everyone town didn't associate Michael with BLM.

1628
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: He didn't, So actually, I don't think he was trying

1629
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: to set Michael up.

1630
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: Then.

1631
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: I really think he was trying to set up Sarah

1632
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 1: because she was the main face of BLM.

1633
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 5: But then the sniper thing, they would be like, this

1634
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 5: little girl can't snipe anybody.

1635
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 6: I don't know that the sniper thing was an accident.

1636
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 6: I think him, I know, but I think he missed

1637
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 6: a casing. He only got two. He stepped on the

1638
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 6: third one. That's why he couldn't find the third.

1639
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: No, what he's saying is, even if you're trying to Cara,

1640
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: why would they think Sarah could snipe these two people.

1641
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 5: Only a few people in that town probably could do

1642
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 5: that shot, even without the shaowcasing.

1643
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hadn't seen the picture of Michael and

1644
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: Sarah yet. That happens later, So I don't know.

1645
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, his means of killing him didn't make any

1646
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 6: sense to me. That's why I was trying to figure

1647
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 6: out how to hell when when it was revealed that

1648
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 6: the note just no piece, I was like, how are

1649
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 6: you going.

1650
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: To tee that to black lives? To black lives matter?

1651
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 6: When the shot, when the murder would have had to

1652
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 6: happen inside the house, m.

1653
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: They would have been outside the house.

1654
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: That's the point. It would have had to be an

1655
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: actual sniper. Even if well, I guess unless they're just

1656
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: shitty cops, and because he took the shell casings, they

1657
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that it had to be a maybe that's it.

1658
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 6: But at some point, when you do forensis of the

1659
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 6: whole area, you'll see the trajector like when you do

1660
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 6: the autopsy, you'll see the bullet came in from behind you.

1661
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 5: They gonna know that it came and broke the glass

1662
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 5: and went through the window, so they would it was

1663
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,480
Speaker 5: a snipe.

1664
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: Window just bow instead of somebody. I don't know this.

1665
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: This is this is where the movie just really started

1666
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: to fall apart from me anyway. So I was just like,

1667
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: all right, dog, I don't really this is stupid. The

1668
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: conversation with Sarah and the cops, did y'all take anything

1669
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: interesting from that?

1670
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 6: I saw she was texting Michael. I could barely read

1671
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 6: what she was saying. I think it was like the

1672
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 6: cops are at my house or something like that.

1673
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1674
01:17:54,120 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was basically explaining protests and why agitators want

1675
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: protests to be violent.

1676
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: That was the only thing very interesting I pulled from this.

1677
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had tuned up. I feel you, I

1678
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 3: feel you.

1679
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: She wasn't even trying to read the text.

1680
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: I tried to read the text.

1681
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: It was too small, my little raggedy ass theater, but

1682
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: they wanted us to read the text. They I think

1683
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: that I was just not I was in the regular

1684
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: ask I was. They don't have good screens there. It's

1685
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: like watching a big fucking tube TV. She was basically

1686
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: saying that the cops want protesters to be violent, so

1687
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: old white people will support martial law when it happens.

1688
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: The common theory of why they want this stuff to happen,

1689
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 1: why agitators are called in to make these things happen.

1690
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 6: Which shows that when you have this sort of counter intelligence,

1691
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 6: I can't go to the word, but when you have

1692
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 6: this opposite rhetoric, you have the violence that you had

1693
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 6: in the other when somebody threw a rick window through

1694
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 6: that guy's house, then they looked at his protests, and

1695
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 6: then you have cause to do the things that you're doing,

1696
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 6: which is basically what she was explaining. But also again

1697
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 6: how these different thoughts and ideas can kind of grow

1698
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:13,520
Speaker 6: in manifests and spread, you know, and just cause chaos among.

1699
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,440
Speaker 2: Opposing factions.

1700
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to start combining things and

1701
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: jumping along here. So Brian has an interview and he

1702
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: makes an implication that Michael may have done it because

1703
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: of the picture, so they immediately.

1704
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 3: Go and arrest Michael.

1705
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: Then there's a conversation between Guy and Joe about BLM.

1706
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember that conversation where he's basically talking about

1707
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 1: Michael and how he didn't realize he didn't see Michael's

1708
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: race until Black Lives Black's Lives Matter happened, and now

1709
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: he can't tell if he's more of an officer or

1710
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: a black person. Rob, what did you think of that?

1711
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1712
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: I mean yeah this Nah, Yeah, I don't know if

1713
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 4: this part really stuck out to me at all.

1714
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's pick a side, right, because this

1715
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 6: sort of started like earlier, some of a very simple

1716
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 6: they're all watching it and they're all like this one unit,

1717
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: we're all cops here now.

1718
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: And then later on.

1719
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it started to escalate. Then it was like okay,

1720
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,480
Speaker 6: well he's it's still it started to grow in manifest

1721
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 6: and spread and now guys like, well shit, Michael, he

1722
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 6: still doesn't know what the fuck going on? Michael, what

1723
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 6: the do you understand it? Maybe can you help ride

1724
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 6: some clarity? And then all of this happens, and then

1725
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 6: it's like, well, shit, I don't know if he's black

1726
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 6: or a cop, Like, I don't know what what side

1727
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 6: he's on. And then because he has this perceived idea,

1728
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 6: well he says in it, and I can't remember exact

1729
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 6: he said, well, because somebody was like, well tens, oh yeah,

1730
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 6: he said, tess and hispanic, So why would he kill

1731
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 6: you know him? He was like, well, they said they

1732
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 6: hate everybody, they don't.

1733
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: Care about themselves, so it would make sense.

1734
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 6: But he's spreading this idea that he gotten from somewhere,

1735
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 6: you know, as all this stuff is coming in this town,

1736
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 6: basically poisoning the thoughts of the city or this small town.

1737
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: But it was an interesting conversation.

1738
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 5: I thought that that was about to be the premise

1739
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 5: of the movie, how the black guy was a part

1740
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 5: of the establishment and he wasn't really into it, and

1741
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 5: then they turned this whole thing around him so quickly.

1742
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 5: As far as it being like you are a nigger,

1743
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 5: I knew it, like just I know, I thought that

1744
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 5: was going to be it. So I think they did

1745
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 5: it well to set him up to be arrested, because

1746
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 5: it did look suspicious as far as if you were

1747
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 5: looking from their perspective, but then I don't think that

1748
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 5: they did enough with it from there, so it didn't

1749
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,759
Speaker 5: really matter. Yeah, I kind of agree.

1750
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: It was just like, like I liked the conversation and

1751
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: how the conversation happened about, you know, because cops do

1752
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: you think that way, like are you more of a

1753
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: black person or are you a fucking cop because they

1754
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: see cop as a race. They're so fucking delusional that

1755
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: cops think that way. So I did find this part

1756
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,839
Speaker 1: to be interesting, which again made this movie so fucking

1757
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: frustrating because it's like, dude, you're like almost there with

1758
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation, then you just fucking move away from

1759
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 1: it to some some more nothing ass bullshit. But yeah,

1760
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: So a Butterfly, the Pleblo cop, he notices the marker

1761
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: board in Joe's police station and he recognized the handwriting,

1762
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 1: which causes him to run back to Joe's house because

1763
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: he thinks that Joe is involved. But while this is happening,

1764
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: someone breaks Michael out of jail, which leads Joe and

1765
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: Guy to find him in a valley in front of

1766
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: a burning barrel with a drone in the sky. What

1767
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:53,839
Speaker 1: did you think about what happened here, Rod.

1768
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, this again. I thought this was interesting as well.

1769
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Who are these

1770
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 4: people and what's going on? I also thought it was

1771
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 4: interesting before we got.

1772
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Here with the the Native American. I guess it was

1773
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: that he didn't he didn't realize that it was part

1774
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: of their investigation too, because of where he shot the

1775
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: bullet from.

1776
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it was. He It fucked up his whole situation.

1777
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 4: So he started kind of scrambling to get with it

1778
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: where he was. But uh, but this part right here, Yeah,

1779
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 4: I was just like, Yo, what the fuck is going on?

1780
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,520
Speaker 4: Who are these people.

1781
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: That?

1782
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: Because I think they show like a plane, a jet

1783
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: flying here, yeah, with a bunch of people in masks

1784
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 1: and ship. Yeah, but I figured that they were just

1785
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: like extreamists or something like that or.

1786
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: Just man, yeah, just just some type.

1787
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 4: Of group like that that came to this town too.

1788
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 4: After seeing it, I guess did they make public news

1789
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 4: and ship or what? Because how they had known about

1790
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 4: this town?

1791
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1792
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: Did they make public news that this was happening.

1793
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: In the town? Yeah?

1794
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so this people, Oh it did.

1795
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: It had to have because these people were sent to

1796
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: so I assumed that these were agitators. They were not

1797
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: actually quote unquote Antifa. These were agitators flying because Antifa

1798
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: ain't got no fucking money for the goddamn jets and

1799
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: shit like.

1800
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so all right, I missed all of that.

1801
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,839
Speaker 5: Man, I don't know because I was wondering, like Joel Rodsons,

1802
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 5: like who are these people? And I immediately went to

1803
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 5: irritate it because it's like they're not even gonna take

1804
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 5: time out to explain it, like it's just like it

1805
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 5: was really it was too subtle for me, and I

1806
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 5: think it needed to be a lot more overt for

1807
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 5: the final climax thirty minutes to be focused on them

1808
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 5: trying to kill the sheriff.

1809
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 3: It's that that's crazy to me.

1810
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was also wondering if that data center

1811
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 4: was a part of the whole skin of that whole movement.

1812
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: I think that was just another because I think during

1813
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 1: twenty twenty also there was that situation where there were

1814
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: centers being built on indigenous land. There were protests about

1815
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 1: that too, So I think this was just fucking already

1816
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: astri throwing a gumbo of just random ship that happened,

1817
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: and it was like what's the point here?

1818
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 4: Can that would be a conspiracy too, like if that

1819
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 4: if that company is trying to clear agitate this I'm

1820
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 4: saying and just trying to you know, it's too much

1821
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 4: shit going on here, But we want to get our

1822
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 4: data center here though, so.

1823
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: It would make sense for them to fund it, which

1824
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: is why they.

1825
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: Had a case.

1826
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: You just not anybody just has a JIT, but a

1827
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 4: fucking data center would have a JIT.

1828
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, they just lost Ted is a big part of

1829
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 6: their plans and he no longer exist.

1830
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: But also, white supremacists have money for jets, So I

1831
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: thought the whole time that it was a white supremacist group.

1832
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: That was absolutely because this is the perfect thing to happen.

1833
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: You put this on the news. Oh, Antifa showed up

1834
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 1: and took over a small town and killed the sheriff

1835
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: and the mayor. Boom, you're good, which is why I think.

1836
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this part of the next

1837
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: part when Show is driving and he sees that big

1838
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: statue and the statue says white supremacy on it, which

1839
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:11,480
Speaker 1: that didn't really either in my opinion, but burning crosses.

1840
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: And that's when he was going to find Michael.

1841
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, It was basically like plant planted to look

1842
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a certain way. Yes, it was planted. It was supposed

1843
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: to look like Antifa did this. I didn't really like

1844
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: this though, But like, so, first off, I don't get

1845
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: why Michael was speaking funny, like his voice was fucked up.

1846
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: But then why the muffle go away after that? It did?

1847
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 5: I thought he was trying to do that so they

1848
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 5: wouldn't understand because.

1849
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:43,839
Speaker 3: It was bugged.

1850
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh is that what it was?

1851
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was trying to talk to where they couldn't

1852
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 5: pick up what he was saying because they were recording

1853
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 5: it because they showed a little video and they had

1854
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 5: to arrow.

1855
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but I thought I thought they had

1856
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: some in his mouth to where he can he was doing.

1857
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: He speaks like he was when when what's his face

1858
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: too close? He yells out like, don't like stop what

1859
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: I've got what he's saying? He said, yeah, something like

1860
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: oh shit wow. But yeah, so Michael is speaking weird.

1861
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad you explained that because I didn't understand that part.

1862
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: A guy walks closer.

1863
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: To him and the explosion goes off on him.

1864
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: Captain apparently he should yeah, sure, and then the fire

1865
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: that ignites it spells out no peace, so that is

1866
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: another reference to BLMS. This is them trying to frame

1867
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: BLM for everything. But then we get Joe. He's attacked

1868
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: in the street by a hit man. A hit man

1869
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: is chasing Joe down and real quick, I mean, I

1870
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: guess we got to talk about this part. This leads

1871
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: Joe back home. Spike, what'd you think of the scene

1872
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: with Dawn where she sort of appears as Luis for

1873
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: a hot second.

1874
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 5: I didn't take anything from this. I was wondering why

1875
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 5: the mom was even back. I know she said it.

1876
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 5: She went to the colt and was listening to some

1877
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 5: of the beliefs and then they got too extreme for her,

1878
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 5: Which is this what she hopped in the bed with him. Yeah,

1879
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 5: I don't think I realized Don left together the cult

1880
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 5: with Louise. I thought I thought her mom said she

1881
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 5: went with and didn't started getting too radical, and that's

1882
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 5: when she came back.

1883
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 3: She said it.

1884
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 5: She said I was with her, and then she started

1885
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 5: talking like getting to earlier in the they.

1886
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: Just talked about it.

1887
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: That's why he was so surprised when she was there, gotcha, Yeah,

1888
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 5: And he was like, because she had been gone for

1889
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 5: a while, but she was with her daughter.

1890
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

1891
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that makes more sense about why she

1892
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: would be appearing as Louise and right, that's what he

1893
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: wants to be there, but instead it's old raggedy ass.

1894
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: Dont anything for this or the next part.

1895
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 6: Well, I was trying to figure out what what Joe

1896
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 6: was talking about it was, because now he's saying, uh,

1897
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 6: they've come to kill me. But then he held up

1898
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 6: this phone was ringing and it was like it said restricted.

1899
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 6: He was like, see, So now I was wondering was

1900
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 6: he part of all of this ship from the jump

1901
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 6: or did he get involved and then they were just

1902
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 6: trying to kill him because he had already did what

1903
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 6: they did.

1904
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Joe, Yeah, no, I think what he was trying to

1905
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: hint at is like the Deep State was after him

1906
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: now because he knows it's not BLM. But had he

1907
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: been in communication with the deep State prior to this?

1908
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 6: I got because he was liked killed they said, I

1909
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 6: killed ted and now you know and now they're trying

1910
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 6: to well maybe it was deep State.

1911
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're right.

1912
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 3: So maybe they approached him and was like, well you

1913
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 3: can have the same power with him.

1914
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: He just probably added on to it.

1915
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: If that's part of the story, I'm this movie dropped

1916
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: down because they needed to have said that shit explicitly.

1917
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Because Joe is not very intelligent. No, he's not.

1918
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: So I think I assumed that the phone said restricted,

1919
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: and Joe was like, see because it was a restricted

1920
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: phone and we're calling him right while the guy was

1921
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: hunting him down. That's what Hot's how I took it.

1922
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,560
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01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and jump.

1943
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: To you know, one of the last scenes, Spike, what'd

1944
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: you think about the gun chase with Joe and the hitman?

1945
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 5: Absolutely ridiculous because I at this point, like until we

1946
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 5: sit here and talked to it out of y'all telling

1947
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 5: me about the jet and then the corporation may behind

1948
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 5: the order deep State, I couldn't get my mind off of,

1949
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 5: like who is this and why?

1950
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 3: Like why won't why didn't?

1951
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 5: Because I knew they weren't going to so I was wondering,

1952
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 5: why didn't they explain it before it got into this

1953
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 5: deep chase as far as them trying to kill him? Like,

1954
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: I get it, I understand that that could happen in

1955
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 5: the movie, but I would have liked more explanation before

1956
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,520
Speaker 5: I get invested into this shootout.

1957
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 3: What about you, Rod?

1958
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 4: At first it seemed ridiculous, but it started getting I

1959
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 4: started getting invested because of the because it felt like

1960
01:31:59,000 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 4: a video game.

1961
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 3: It was like you hearing him breathe and weezing.

1962
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it felt it felt intense.

1963
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: It was intense. It wasn't.

1964
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 4: It was a little ridiculous because when theyre shooting at

1965
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: his ass, he was missing him. He was terrible shots.

1966
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 4: It was terrible shots. But I don't know, like something

1967
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 4: about it just I don't know, it was still intriguing.

1968
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 4: I guess I was looking. I was reaching for something,

1969
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 4: like reaching for some action and I and I just

1970
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: submitted to it. Really And then when they went into

1971
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 4: the gun store, I'm sure that's a that was a

1972
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 4: political statement too, when he went into the gun store

1973
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 4: and he was able to arm and arm himself or

1974
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 4: whatever against against something like this.

1975
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, I thought it was I thought

1976
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: it was fun. I thought it was fun.

1977
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 2: It didn't it didn't bother me at all.

1978
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 6: I was trying to just decipher what all was going on, like,

1979
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 6: you know, who are these people trying to kill Joel?

1980
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, they just kind of popped out

1981
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 6: of nowhere. They were definitely terrible shots, but they were

1982
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 6: not trained, so I guess that would make sense.

1983
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: The only thing. I was like, when he went in

1984
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: that gun store, I was.

1985
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 6: Like, I said, this motherfucker, I said, it'll be funny

1986
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 6: if he come out busting out of that motherfucker like

1987
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 6: commandod and that came out that mother fuck Like I

1988
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 6: was like, oh, ship, this really came out here like that. Yeah,

1989
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 6: unloading carelessly, you know, like that ship. But but now

1990
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 6: I was like, how many are them? But it was

1991
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 6: a wild, crazy superintendent long scene. But I'm with you

1992
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 6: on the tension because I'm like, they have the high

1993
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 6: ground and Joe's like out in the middle of the street,

1994
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 6: and then they started to kind of play around with

1995
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 6: like the shots and ship like that, so it made

1996
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 6: it disoriented because you were like, where are they kind

1997
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 6: of looking around, you know, where they.

1998
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Are looking for him in the shadows.

1999
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was it was creative directing.

2000
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,799
Speaker 5: Like I was like, damn, this is this is pretty intense.

2001
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. Yeah, but you know, I expect him to

2002
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 5: do ridiculous shi last.

2003
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Movie, So like I I was afraid, how a point

2004
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: I know before I'm just ridiculous, No, I know, But

2005
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 1: that's again that's why I don't like this because it

2006
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: was like, if you're making it to where this is

2007
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: like a COVID fever dream, I can submit. But he

2008
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: went into a gun store and came out with a

2009
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 1: gatling gun? What are we doing? Why is this is stupid?

2010
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: But it's not realistic?

2011
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 5: Come on, why you come out of here like you?

2012
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 5: People usually carry those guns on like a moving vehicle.

2013
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: They don't sell gatling guns and gun stores. That's the point, Like,

2014
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna try to make a realistic depiction or

2015
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: semi realistic depiction, make it even close to realistic. Up

2016
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: until that, I was like, all right, I can kind

2017
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: of see this happening. Sure, But when this motherfucker seriously

2018
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: walked out like Buddy and Predator, I was just like,

2019
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: all right, dude already asked her wrap this the fuck up?

2020
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: What are we doing? I like, it just didn't make

2021
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: any sense.

2022
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 6: I like, like I loaded them, mother if if somebody

2023
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 6: if motherfucker's chasing me and I going there, Bro the

2024
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 6: biggest gun I got.

2025
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: You said they don't sell him. Typically.

2026
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, y'all, don't be I heard.

2027
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I was worried for a bit in my mute, like

2028
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: like that rapper is what Rod said, I'm going to

2029
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: get the biggest ship. I think they were trying to

2030
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: make a point of selling semi auto, but it's just

2031
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: a dumb point because it's just like this is this

2032
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: is silly.

2033
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 4: This is really silly. But he had one of those two.

2034
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 4: He had that ship on his shoulders.

2035
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hated this ship.

2036
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 3: I loved it.

2037
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, so the gunman ends up shooting the sheriff

2038
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: and stabs him in the head, but he's wrecking rescued

2039
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 1: by Brian. That ship was crazy, like is he about

2040
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: to stab He's just about to run up on him

2041
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: and stab him, and he did right in the head.

2042
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, ship, save.

2043
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: You live streaming and recording I save you.

2044
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 3: And then him turning it into a political right. So

2045
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,440
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be what's his face.

2046
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: Y'all know, little buddy, no man, the guy that went

2047
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: he carried a gun across lines. He was a young kid,

2048
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: killed people. They recently clown him and so yeah, because

2049
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: there was pictures of him with Marjorie Taylor Green in

2050
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: the movie, and it was just like, all right, this

2051
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: is dumb, which kind of makes sense.

2052
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 2: I can see him flipping because he never was for

2053
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 2: the Anywhere.

2054
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think that was kind of the point

2055
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: that they're making, is like, of course he would flip

2056
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 1: because all he wants is attention, but I just didn't

2057
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: care at this point, like him running out with his

2058
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: phone and shooting it was like, well, we didn't even

2059
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: get a glimpse of you being this tied to social

2060
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: media like that before unless I missed it, But I

2061
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: did watch half of an interview with Ariastor where he

2062
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: was saying that this movie was supposed to be about

2063
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: the dangers of social media, and it was just like, oh,

2064
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: this sounds like a fucking twirly mustache hipster take on this,

2065
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: because it was just like, dude, this is this is

2066
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: basic as fuck.

2067
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 5: Dude, Like really, well, yeah, that's sound like what he

2068
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 5: tried to do at the end to save it.

2069
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought. I was like, it sounds

2070
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: like there's some ship you threw in there to make

2071
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: it seem like there was a deep point to this.

2072
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:26,600
Speaker 5: No, I think that's that walked social media.

2073
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had it in my notes, the dangers of

2074
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: social media this whole movie.

2075
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where.

2076
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 2: It's like it's like like how.

2077
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 6: Again, this whole theme of viruses, social media, Internet, internet

2078
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 6: virus or whatever. But like if you kind of play back,

2079
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 6: they were a lot on their phone. This is a

2080
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 6: small town that's cut off from the world. How are

2081
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 6: they getting their information? If you going back to the

2082
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 6: way back in the beginning, Don and Louise are getting

2083
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 6: all their stuff from online social media stuff like that.

2084
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 6: When he tried to have sets with Louise and she

2085
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 6: would have sex.

2086
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 2: With him, what did he do? He rolled over? He

2087
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 2: was on his phone, scroll on his phone.

2088
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: So that tells you this movie is about the dangers

2089
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: of social media. Yeah, that seems really loose it because

2090
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: there was no danger for him to roll over after

2091
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Louis don't give him.

2092
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 6: Say but all of these ideas, they're being infected in

2093
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 6: this town by the ideas that are outside of their world.

2094
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got that.

2095
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: But these ideas are coming from social media, Internet online.

2096
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: He says it in a movie too, is like, what

2097
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: you gonna post it on your little Instagram? He's like, yep, I'm.

2098
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 3: Posting on Instagram.

2099
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 2: It's him running from mayor started from the Facebook. Facebook.

2100
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I'm not saying that social media wasn't in

2101
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: the film. What I'm saying is I don't think that

2102
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: this was a very clear message, at least for me.

2103
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: I definitely walked away with being like, well, y'all definitely

2104
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: showed a lot of how social media happens, but it

2105
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: wasn't egregious to the point where I would take away, Oh,

2106
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: you're making a point about how dangerous social media is.

2107
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Not that you say earlier you didn't want it to

2108
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: be too clear? What do you mean with some of

2109
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: his films?

2110
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember saying that.

2111
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I've been understood.

2112
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: No, maybe I said it and forgot. I'll tell you

2113
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: what it sounds like me, but I don't think I

2114
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: said that. It's not that I don't want his movies

2115
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: to be clear. It's just that I want to understand

2116
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: that there is some sort of message something for me

2117
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: to chew. On his last three films, they were very

2118
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: message heavy.

2119
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 3: It was like, Yo, when you.

2120
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: Finished the film and you walk away, it's like, oh,

2121
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: I understand how this is where you're talking about the

2122
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: dangers of cults. Got it, You're talking about family trauma,

2123
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: got it, You're talking about you know, anxiety, got it?

2124
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: With this, it's like, oh, really, we're talking about social media?

2125
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Is dangerous.

2126
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: It's like, bro once again, this is a very basic

2127
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: ass idea and it's to me, it's not even presented

2128
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: in a creative way.

2129
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 5: But the Tech Company gets rich off the division while

2130
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: we bicker and fight. Does he feel like that was

2131
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 5: his There was a summation of what he said, but

2132
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 5: he said he feelt like.

2133
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 2: This, Well that was at the end.

2134
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 6: I think that book ended and kind of probably steal

2135
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 6: the deal because you know, they still got what they

2136
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 6: wanted while this community basically fell apart.

2137
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but.

2138
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: I got that point.

2139
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like with all he said, though I

2140
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 4: don't want to just paraphrase what he said. He said,

2141
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 4: I took the meaning that the tech is underlining thing

2142
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: divided us, COVID intensified the division and had us all

2143
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 4: following different ideologies which had happened that.

2144
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: Leading to us to us to the destruction.

2145
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

2146
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 4: The post of the movie with the buffalo kind of

2147
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: solidified that for him. He said that Tech company gets

2148
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 4: rich off the division while we all bicker in fight.

2149
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all like like it was it. It

2150
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 6: was like everybody was impacted one way or another by

2151
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 6: the ideas of all these other entities. You know, from

2152
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 6: b LM to you know, the cops to everything, and

2153
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 6: I think, just you know, I was thinking about it.

2154
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 2: You have the white guy Joe who.

2155
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 6: As his aspirations to be this big kind of glamorous thing.

2156
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take over this city. I'm gonna be mayor.

2157
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 6: And when that failed, what did he do? He resorts

2158
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,759
Speaker 6: the violence. What do you know what is typically sometimes

2159
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 6: sought you tod with white people. I couldn't get my way,

2160
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 6: so I resort to violence. That's how we got to America.

2161
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 6: And that's why you have sort of like the underlying

2162
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 6: part about the kind of in the background with Pueblo people,

2163
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 6: Pueblo that are there that he didn't even know it

2164
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 6: was part of like this that sat on the county

2165
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 6: that they had sort of rights to it. He just

2166
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 6: kind of tried to get rid of them and dismissed them.

2167
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 6: And then you also have the black guy Michael, who

2168
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 6: kind of assimilated and was part of the system that

2169
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 6: didn't fuck with him.

2170
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 2: And he didn't realize it.

2171
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 6: He was oblivious to it until he was reminded that

2172
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 6: he was black, you know, towards the end, and then

2173
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 6: he got turned at the end of the.

2174
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Movie didn't get turned. He became sheriff. That's my whole

2175
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: point with this, like, what the fuck are you even

2176
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 1: not you? But what the fuck are you even trying

2177
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: to say with it.

2178
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 6: He didn't seem like he was angry though about the

2179
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 6: portray that happened, because he didn't seem like he was

2180
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 6: happy to be sheriff.

2181
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: He didn't see like he was mad about being sheriff.

2182
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 6: His face was all, well, he wanted to be sheriff

2183
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 6: because his dad was sheriff. Dad never made to be sheriff.

2184
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 6: But he seemed but he looked like he was mad,

2185
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 6: though you be mad.

2186
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 2: To face was what the fuck?

2187
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 3: Because he saw a mirror at.

2188
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 6: Some point and he's out there shooting and he's feeling

2189
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 6: the the at sheriff or whatever Joe's.

2190
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: He was filming Joe in a wheelchair on some Stephen

2191
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: Hawk and ship.

2192
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 3: It was just it was like that.

2193
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 5: That bomb, I know, the other dude in half, but

2194
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 5: he was standing right on top of it.

2195
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 3: He lives. I don't know whether it was.

2196
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 1: It seemed like the bomb was pretty close to him,

2197
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: but I let it go. I thought the same thing Spike.

2198
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 2: But I thought he was there whatever.

2199
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 3: But I even like the.

2200
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 4: I mean that makes sense as to why, you know,

2201
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 4: it's it's it's like a Western. It's like the wild

2202
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 4: wild West, Like it was kind of a similar thing

2203
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 4: going on down and I'm just saying it was like

2204
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 4: it was a lot of outlaws.

2205
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 3: It was it was.

2206
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just the same type of vibe.

2207
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: It felt like that, but in a more modern day sense.

2208
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 1: Thank you shooting from I think so too. I don't

2209
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: think that's been I think it's very intentional that he

2210
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: made it like a Western. I think it was intentionally

2211
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 1: he made it like a Western, but with all the like, oh,

2212
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of outlaws and stuff. It was just like, man,

2213
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:20,839
Speaker 1: but this this film just did not seem anywhere close

2214
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: to as deep and compelling as his standard films are.

2215
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: Like when all of his movies have a have a

2216
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: part at the end where everything just goes fucking crazy,

2217
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: this was the least interesting crazy moment, you know. I

2218
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: don't think he was actually trying to make an overall

2219
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: solid point. I think the social media is evil thing

2220
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: is just some basic bitch kind of logic there. I mean,

2221
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: anybody can make a movie about the dangers of social

2222
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: media and it's like we've already been beaten over the

2223
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 1: head with the dangers of social media at the very least,

2224
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: how about make it createative. I don't find that this

2225
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: was creative, all right, so.

2226
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 3: Let me let me so.

2227
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I looked at The Wild Wild West you're about to

2228
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: read a whole no no, no, no, just just a couple

2229
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: of no no, no, just a couple of key points

2230
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: of it. And I thought he probably implemented this. He

2231
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 1: probably looked used this as a reference. So the error

2232
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: was marked by a rapid expansion in settlement. It was

2233
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: also marked by lawless and violence. It was marked by

2234
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the clash of cultures and the rise of iconic figures.

2235
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: That was that was the key characteristics of the Wild

2236
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: Wild West. We got all that, But who cares. I

2237
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 1: think that gives a fuck. He did it in a

2238
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: modern way. I thought that was that's created. It's basically

2239
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: we are. And the reason was sparked, is what Jalen said.

2240
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, he kind of right, because like, yeah,

2241
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,679
Speaker 4: it was like the Wild Wild West, Like it made sense,

2242
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 4: Like it's making this movie make a lot more sense

2243
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 4: to me, because you got the gunfights, you got the like.

2244
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 1: That was never my confusion. My confusion was never why

2245
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: why are you making this a Western? That was never

2246
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 1: because he's from New Mexico, so who is a Yeah? Okay,

2247
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 1: so again my whole thing was always what is the

2248
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: point I.

2249
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 3: Think showing the correlation of.

2250
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 4: This time with the time of the with the eighteen

2251
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 4: hundreds or whatever when the Wild Wild West was happening.

2252
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 6: Now, I think you probably just don't like the point

2253
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 6: that he was making in this movie.

2254
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: What is it? What's the point that he was making

2255
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to like or dislike? I think that

2256
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: if it's really just, oh hey, guys during twenty twenty,

2257
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: there's a correlation between what happened in twenty twenty and

2258
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: the Wild Wild West, if that's the whole point.

2259
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 6: No, not that, I'm just I'm just thinking about just

2260
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 6: like again, like just it was even on his truck

2261
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 6: about I can't remember what it was on the truck

2262
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 6: something about the virus, but just like how these how

2263
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 6: we all can be infected and with this one thing,

2264
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 6: and what is the virus?

2265
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 2: Does?

2266
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 6: It gets in your system and then it starts to

2267
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 6: grow nfest and you kind of see it where this

2268
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 6: whole BLM thing started with two girls talking as social justice,

2269
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 6: and here come these two guys long. The next thing

2270
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 6: you know, they're in the crowd, in the in this

2271
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 6: small block, in the truck. The next thing you know,

2272
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 6: it's this whole little city. You have that thing. You

2273
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 6: have Joe's ambitions as well, that's growing and manifesting, and

2274
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 6: he get infected with that, and then that leads to violence.

2275
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,520
Speaker 1: And that's a parallel to like it could be uh

2276
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 1: literally figuratively with Joe, Like as the as the affection got.

2277
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Worse, he got worse, He got worse.

2278
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 6: He even he didn't believe in COVID still never revealed

2279
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 6: that he had it when it got tested, came back coughing,

2280
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 6: trying to conceal the cough. But what is he doing

2281
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 6: this whole time he's there, In the time that he said,

2282
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 6: COVID wasn't there. COVID came as you wanted out by

2283
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 6: the by the homeless guy, right. But all he's doing,

2284
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 6: what is he doing? He's spreading the virus everywhere, and

2285
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,600
Speaker 6: the virus in this town is being spread by a

2286
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 6: lot of different things. That's kind of looping back in

2287
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 6: area also was saying by also outside world and the

2288
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 6: Internet that they have access to.

2289
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 3: I don't think.

2290
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Y'all, I don't think the third I was present in

2291
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: this film. I think this is the most basic ass message.

2292
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: I think I was looking for something deeper.

2293
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's what. That's kind of where I

2294
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 2: was going.

2295
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 3: Your explanation sounds better than they played out on screen.

2296
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 5: It didn't play out because y'all are not wrong, and

2297
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 5: I'd like it what y'all saying, but how it played

2298
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 5: out on screen, it did not.

2299
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 3: It didn't come off there with.

2300
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't even like the way you not not anything

2301
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: against you, I don't even like the way you said it,

2302
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like this could be a TVV. No,

2303
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm not. I got what I mean for the sound.

2304
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 3: No, I didn't mean it like that.

2305
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, if already Aster came out and said, hey,

2306
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: this is what I was going for, I would still

2307
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 1: have the same annoyed stance that I have now. That's

2308
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: where I was going before you to jump in and

2309
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,520
Speaker 1: make it exactly.

2310
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, just.

2311
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, yeah, that's my thing. You're right. I

2312
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: think I just didn't care about the message, and I

2313
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: didn't care about the way the message was portrayed. Because

2314
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: if when I'm supposed to walk away from with this

2315
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: entire film is social media is dangerous. I'm looking at

2316
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you like, bro, are you fucking serious? Water is wet,

2317
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: the sky is blue, Like, do this in a more

2318
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 1: creative way. We all know cults are bad, but when

2319
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,480
Speaker 1: you watch Midsommar, you're like, oh shit, this is crazy.

2320
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 1: How this play. We know that family trauma is a thing,

2321
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 1: but when you watch Hereditary, you're like, oh shit, that's

2322
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: why the way this broke down. If it's just me

2323
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: and I guess spiked to a degree, that's fine. I'm

2324
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: not trying to get y'all change of mind. I think

2325
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: that my expectations were just way too high for this film,

2326
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: even though I walked in being like, I don't think

2327
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like this, but because I've liked all of

2328
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: ari Astro's films, I was hoping I would. But by

2329
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: the end of this movie, I was just like, Bro,

2330
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: this is your easily easily by leaps and bounds, your

2331
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: worst film. This is nowhere near what you did with Midsommar, Hereditary,

2332
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: or Bo's Afraid. I think the acting was great to

2333
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: wrap this up. From my stance, I think the acting

2334
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: was great. I think certain stories and actors were completely

2335
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: under fucking utilized. We didn't even need Louise in this

2336
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: whole fucking movie. Y'all could have took Louise out of

2337
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: this shit, and the whole fucking thing could have played

2338
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: out the exact same way. Because Louise added nothing to this.

2339
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: You could have had Don still there giving him the

2340
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff. It was just like, and then the the

2341
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: cult guy Wise Vernon, he didn't do shit in this,

2342
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 1: and he's all over the posters and whatnot. And when

2343
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Buffalo or whene of y'all talking

2344
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: about Buffalo. Yeah, yeah, Jalen, Yeah, I get you.

2345
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 3: That was very obvious.

2346
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: But I think in my brain I saying, he's not

2347
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: going this basic. I was telling myself this whole film.

2348
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 1: I was like, he ain't talking about COVID. At some point,

2349
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 1: there's a demon.

2350
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: And see I didn't even think it was a COVID movie. Honestly.

2351
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: I thought COVID was just kind of used as a setting.

2352
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 6: But what the real quick Dawn did she become part

2353
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 6: of the institution herself.

2354
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: Institution you mean, because wasn't she speaking on behalf of.

2355
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,799
Speaker 1: What was at the end of the morning, he basically

2356
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: became the new mayor because she was huge a caretaker,

2357
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,959
Speaker 1: but she was kind of running the show because clearly

2358
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Joe was an invalid at this point.

2359
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Which I don't know how or whatever.

2360
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 4: Well, she was able to kind of spread her message.

2361
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 4: She was kind of able to spread her message that

2362
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 4: she's always had.

2363
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's now has the power and the ears

2364
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: to spread the conspiracies. Now why we end with all

2365
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: them climbing in the bed, No fucking clue. Why we

2366
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: end with Michael in the field shooting the target and

2367
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 1: then it pulls back. It's just like who who cares?

2368
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: Like what difference is make at this point? Yeah, he's mad,

2369
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: he's he's he's gonna.

2370
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 4: I think he's going to try to assassinate Joe at

2371
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 4: some point, man.

2372
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Choke to assassinate Joe. You can him over, but he

2373
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: has to do it to get away with it. That's

2374
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: what you think he practiced. Absolutely, he practicing. Absolutely, he is.

2375
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 1: That's whack as fuck.

2376
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 6: I think he realized the system isn't for him, and

2377
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:30,839
Speaker 6: now he's anti system.

2378
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:31,879
Speaker 2: I know he's still working.

2379
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 3: For the Sistee.

2380
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 5: Oh god, but you know what this y'all y'all worrying

2381
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 5: because I was.

2382
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: I ran out of there with Chris.

2383
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: I was like, thank god, this bush. I don't even

2384
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: care why he's because when I saw him shooting, I

2385
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: was like, why is he shooting? Then when it pulled

2386
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: back and it's like, oh, there's the data center. Is

2387
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 1: he shooting at the data center? Is he mad that

2388
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: the data centers there? What is happening? But y'all saying, oh,

2389
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: he was practicing to shoot Joe. I'm like, dog, I

2390
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 1: think he definitely going to do something. But you know,

2391
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: because why would you even kill Joe? Like, Joe didn't

2392
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: blow your dumb ass up? Quote unquote, he know Joe

2393
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: set him up? Yeah, I think he made How does

2394
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 1: he know Joe set him up? Because no, he's no

2395
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 1: Joe said a month. He know, he knows that he

2396
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 1: was set up. He said it on a different station.

2397
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 1: That's a different statement. He doesn't know that Joe set

2398
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: him up. Who else would have set a month? The

2399
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: other white guy or this group. Yes guy was the

2400
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: only one that was racist, but.

2401
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 3: He was in on. But but Joe was in on.

2402
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 3: He's like, don't do this, Why are you doing this?

2403
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Know that Michael does not. Michael, when he starts to call,

2404
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: he asked Joe. He told Joe, I don't trust exactly.

2405
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 4: But they show him looking at Joe towards the end

2406
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 4: in the crowd.

2407
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 3: He was in the crowd. Look we dot all that.

2408
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: But the whole the statement of he knows Joe set

2409
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 1: him up, I'm saying that is that is not true.

2410
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: He may suspect it now never why why would they

2411
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: suspect it?

2412
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with Rod, like, why the is he

2413
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 2: looking at Joe like that?

2414
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: Even if even if the film is trying to imply

2415
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,839
Speaker 1: that Michael thinks that Joe set him up, it doesn't

2416
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 1: make any sense because why would he think that? Because

2417
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 1: we they still don't know that Joe's the one that

2418
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: killed Ted. They still don't know that Joe was the

2419
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: one that had the gun. No one knows all this.

2420
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,719
Speaker 1: So how would Michael know that Joe put the gun

2421
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 1: in his car?

2422
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 2: Know that?

2423
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: No, he would right exactly, So Michael would think more

2424
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 1: so that it was guy that set him up. So

2425
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: why would he be practicing outside to shoot Joe?

2426
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 5: Now?

2427
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: The only thing maybe he thinks that well, guy got

2428
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 1: blown up, So why would he set me up and

2429
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:42,600
Speaker 1: then have to himself blown up. Joe somehow lived, but

2430
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: it seems like he would be practicing to kill whoever

2431
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: these Antifa people are because he he Michael doesn't seem

2432
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: that dumb. It seems like he'd figure out, oh yeah.

2433
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 3: Because they kidnapped him. He knowed somebody else jail.

2434
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: They broke him out of the jail, and then they

2435
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: then Joe and guy get there and say how did

2436
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,639
Speaker 1: you get out here? So there's no way he thinks

2437
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: my Joe did it. That doesn't make any sense.

2438
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 6: Unless they told him a bunch of ship that we

2439
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:09,520
Speaker 6: didn't see.

2440
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

2441
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: We broke you out and Joe did it. Just so

2442
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, Joe is a part of all this, and

2443
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: we broke you out, that would be really And we're

2444
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna blow you up, so even if you die, you're

2445
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna go to the depth.

2446
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 3: At you asking great questions. I don't know, but that's up.

2447
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 3: We're done. We're done.

2448
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to end this a while ago. I told

2449
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: you all this ship was gonna go along anyway.

2450
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 3: We're done.

2451
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

2452
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I totally just cut you off while you're saying I'm sorry,

2453
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of joking, but I realized that was

2454
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: weirde what were you saying? I'm good? No, man, go ahead,

2455
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: So no know I was good. I was just saying, well,

2456
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 1: why I already had? I got it out?

2457
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 2: You did.

2458
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just said, like, why was he looking

2459
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: at I have no clue, That's what I'm telling you.

2460
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 5: I think because they turned on him. He was looking

2461
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 5: at him with some disdain, like he thought Joe trusted

2462
01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 5: him a little bit more. But I don't know if

2463
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 5: he was killed when they were in the scenario, he

2464
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 5: couldn't believe that they were treating him like that.

2465
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2466
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 4: But but see that goes back to what the girlfriend

2467
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 4: was saying. She's like, look, they don't give a about you.

2468
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: You know what she was realizes that makes more sense

2469
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: to me what Spike said. I would I would buy

2470
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 1: that anyway. We're not that your little point wasn't good

2471
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: and stuff? Okays after me, all right, we're done here.

2472
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: Let me know what y'all think. Am I being too

2473
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: harsh on this film and spiked the marsh on this film?

2474
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: Or Ken and Rod just acceptance?

2475
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 3: Whatever?

2476
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 2: Ship? What is.

2477
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: The truth somewhere in the middle, y'all? Let us know

2478
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: what y'all thought, and we will see y'all next time.