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Speaker 1: it's not a news story, Todd, it's season two of it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I know it's a busy time

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Speaker 3: It's not better for each in every situation that they

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Speaker 3: It's that's what he does, and that's what he does

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Speaker 4: There's no bs involved, which at first I was a

436
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: little frustrated, to be honest with you, but we're twenty

437
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Speaker 4: three and two, so let the man do whatever he

438
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Speaker 4: wants to do.

439
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Speaker 1: Uh, what is the game plan for Chris Dido and

440
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: like some of your former teammates, tomorrow night.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're we're gonna get We're talked about doing

442
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Speaker 3: a doubleheader of going We're not gonna go to the

443
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: basketball game. That would my head might explode. So we're

444
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: gonna get together about four Downtown. Got a buddy who

445
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: owns a business down there, So we're not gonna try

446
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: and go to the bars. I think that's just gonna

447
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: be an absolute mad house of a scene. So we're

448
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: gonna go to a buddy he's got a business right

449
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 3: across the street from Lucas Oil. We're gonna tailgate ban

450
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: kind of indoor and outdoor. Watched the Alabama and Georgia

451
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: game and then probably going to the stadium around seven

452
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: and witnessed something that I think we all never thought

453
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Speaker 3: we would and that's Indiana in a Big Ten championship game.

454
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Speaker 3: And while you know it's kind of the appetizers Christmas

455
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Speaker 3: Eve or it's something that we that we know we've

456
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Speaker 3: got bigger and better things on the horizon.

457
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Speaker 4: I just I still think tomorrow night is critical for

458
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Speaker 4: us to compete, to stay in the game, to win

459
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Speaker 4: the game.

460
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Speaker 3: And I think we can because winning a Big ten championship.

461
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Speaker 4: Would be I mean, that would be an opportunity to

462
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Speaker 4: go play in the Rose Bowl. You know, we're talking

463
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Speaker 4: about things that haven't happened since nineteen sixty seven.

464
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Speaker 3: So tomorrow night is a huge game for us, even

465
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Speaker 3: though we know there's a there's a four three or

466
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Speaker 3: four game tournament that we have we will play in

467
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Speaker 3: in two weeks or you know, January first, and but

468
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Speaker 3: it's it's going.

469
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

470
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Speaker 4: I know I made I might shed a tier when

471
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Speaker 4: I finally I saw your tweet and I saw the picture.

472
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Speaker 3: With the name with Indiana and the end zone. It

473
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Speaker 3: gives me chills thinking about it, and I know myself

474
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Speaker 3: and all former players and we're just we're beyond excited

475
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: to be able to witness this and for it to

476
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Speaker 3: be in our backyard and Indianapolis is also an absolute bonus.

477
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Speaker 4: And the one person that I keep thinking of that

478
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Speaker 4: I'm probably the most excited for it. I know many

479
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Speaker 4: people are as Don Fisher, and we all know the

480
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Speaker 4: fifty years of football that he's witnessed and for him

481
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Speaker 4: and Buck Sewert Harner, you know, he was our coach

482
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: down there as well, I'm just so happy for him.

483
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Speaker 3: Because I don't think there's anybody that's gone through more

484
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: of Indiana football, the ups and downs. So I can't

485
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Speaker 3: wait to hear his call because he's such a pro

486
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Speaker 3: and he's a Indiana legend as we all know, so

487
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Speaker 3: I can't wait. I'm assuming you'll be at the game

488
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Speaker 3: as well.

489
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Speaker 1: You know what. So here's the thing. I was going

490
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Speaker 1: to go, and then at the last kind of I

491
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that I was. I was extended the opportunity

492
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: from somebody that was going to get a sweet, and

493
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: then the prices just went bonkers, so they said, you

494
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not getting a sweet after all. So

495
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go down and soak in the

496
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Speaker 1: atmosphere instead of going to the game. We're going to

497
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Speaker 1: go down. We're going to try to find a bar

498
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Speaker 1: restaurant downtown and just soak it in. I mean, it's

499
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be a madhouse, right.

500
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Speaker 1: But there is part of me, Chris that I want

501
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Speaker 1: to be able to look. I want to see them win,

502
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: and I want to see Indiana win as much for

503
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Speaker 1: as you know, everybody we're talking about, as well as

504
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: Terry Hepner and Bill Mallory and all of it. Right,

505
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: I want to see that as much as but but

506
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: then there's part of me also that more so, I

507
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: just want to see Ohio State lose, you know, I

508
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: think that that, you know what I mean, that's that's

509
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: a factor too, but just the the overall buzz and energy.

510
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Speaker 1: I want to be able to soak in all of

511
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: it because I just never thought we'd see it in

512
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: terms of all the energy downtown. I love downtown Indy

513
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: this time of year anyway, but so no, I'm not

514
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: going to actually be in in the stadium, but either way,

515
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cool, you know what I mean. Yeah? Great,

516
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I love it. I listen, I never

517
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: thought i'd see it. And I know I'm going to

518
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: end with one other thing, and I wanted you to

519
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of piggyback up this. I don't know if you

520
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: remember me asking you this, but I thought it was

521
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: a telling comment. I asked you one of the times

522
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Speaker 1: this year when we were talking, if this is the

523
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Speaker 1: first time in a long time that when you sit

524
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Speaker 1: down on an airplane or when you're at a you know,

525
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: at a restaurant in Georgia, on a business trip or

526
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: whatever and some and you say like, oh, yeah, you know,

527
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: I was a college football player. You know, was there

528
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: ever like a hesitation in saying for Indiana as opposed

529
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Speaker 1: to now the pride that it gives you, rightly so

530
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Speaker 1: to be able to say you're a part of Indiana

531
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Speaker 1: football and just that overall, I guess the push out

532
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Speaker 1: of the chest that has now allowed for all of us,

533
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Speaker 1: but notably for you. What does it mean for the

534
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: football fraternity of Indiana University and the alumni.

535
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Speaker 3: Well, Jake, you're gonna you're gonna make me tear up, honestly,

536
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: because it means you just go back and you think

537
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: about what all that we the work we put into

538
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: It was immense that we that every college football player,

539
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: any college athlete, puts into playing a sport in the

540
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: Big Ten. You know, there's there's a lot more losing

541
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: than there is winning, especially what we experienced. But you

542
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: still always had that hope at the beginning of every

543
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: season that this is our year, and it never was

544
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: and now that it is our year and it has

545
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: been for the last couple and to see the transformation

546
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: of Memorial Stadium to thirty five thousand to now fifty

547
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: five thousand.

548
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Speaker 1: It's it's just.

549
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Speaker 3: Such a gratifying feeling of pride to watch it, and

550
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: not only that, to watch a team that is so

551
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: proud to represent Indiana football and to represent it in

552
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: a way that they feel like we're here to stay

553
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: and this is something that can continue and last for

554
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: the next ten to twenty thirty years because of the

555
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: culture that they have built and all of these guys

556
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: that have come in and they have never blinked, and

557
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: all of these guys have you know, I.

558
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Feel like.

559
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: I've never felt before where guys on this team embrace

560
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: players from every era and they want us to be

561
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: a part of it, even though we have, even though

562
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: we haven't necessarily been around the team, It's still it

563
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: feels like we are a part of this team if

564
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: that and so that's about as good as it gets

565
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: for me, and I know for the rest of the

566
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: guys that played there to.

567
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Speaker 4: Be able to say, Hey, we're going to play Ohio

568
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: State tomorrow night and we feel like we have a

569
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: good a chance to win as they do.

570
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: What more can you ask for as a former player

571
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: that we all put a lot of blood, sweat and

572
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: tears into that program and now to watch a team

573
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: that's that's actually getting it done made you know. It

574
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: keeps me up at night because I'm so excited.

575
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Speaker 4: So tonight it's going to be a it's going to

576
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: be a long night, and I just can't wait for tomorrow.

577
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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you three forty eight in the morning.

578
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: If you're staring at the ceiling and you can't, just

579
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: shoot me a text, I'm up. Yeah, we'll go drive around.

580
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Speaker 3: I will, man, I will.

581
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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, I appreciate it, man, enjoy it, and

582
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: soak it all in.

583
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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much for having me.

584
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: Hopefully we're talking in a couple of weeks and we're

585
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: either in Pasadena or Miami or somewhere fun.

586
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: Well, they'll definitely be somewhere warm or no doubt about that,

587
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Chris did. Joining me Java House, Peel and Guest Line

588
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, Indiana and Ohio State for the Big ten title.

589
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Joining us now in the Java House, Peel and Port

590
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: guest Line. He is a friend of the program. I

591
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed, and I don't remember if we have had

592
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: him on since this time. So JP, if I am

593
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: repeating myself with this, I apologize, but I thoroughly enjoyed

594
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Speaker 1: at the end of the IndyCar season, driving back from

595
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Speaker 1: Nashville listening to I believe it was the Notre Dame

596
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Miami game on the radio and you were doing the

597
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: national call. Correct.

598
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's right. That was the week one. It

599
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: was like the last week of August. Yeah, and yeah,

600
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: it turned out to be a pretty good game. Miami

601
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: got the field goal late. We'll see if it matters

602
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: now when the playoff rankings come out next week. But

603
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: you know, all the Miami people think that that should matter,

604
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: and I kind of I tend to agree with him,

605
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: but I appreciate you listening. Man. Thank no.

606
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Speaker 1: I listened, I literally because I was driving from Nashville.

607
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: I listened to the entire broadcast. Great call it was,

608
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great game to your point, right,

609
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: no question about that. All right, let's get to this

610
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: one coming up on Sunday. We know the cold standpoint

611
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: from a health factor, Sauce Gardner is the one guy

612
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: that did not practice this week. That will not change

613
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: what about Jacksonville in terms of their health. There are

614
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: question marks, correct, he has a handful.

615
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: They've had some offensive line question marks the last few weeks.

616
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: The left tackle Walker Little is in concussion protocol, so

617
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Cold and Landon is likely slated to start there, and

618
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: it would be his fourth different position starting on the

619
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Speaker 3: offensive line this year. I think he'd be the ninth

620
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: player in the last twenty years in the NFL to

621
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: start at four different positions in one season, which is

622
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: pretty remarkable to see. So there's some questions there defensive

623
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: line as well. Trevon Walker with a knee issue. He's

624
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: been out on the practice field this week though, and

625
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: I think it's probably trending the right way for him.

626
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: Eric Armstead, with a hand injury, has been practicing in

627
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: a club. He nearly played last week but last second

628
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: just couldn't go. So those are some of the guys

629
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: in the trenches, and then in the secondary. I think

630
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: the Jags are expected to get Eric Murray back at safety,

631
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: which would be big for them. Veteran guy who's been

632
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: around for a long time and kind of settles things

633
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: down on the back end.

634
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Jags have won four or five now. Part of that, admittedly,

635
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Speaker 1: and I mean this is no disrespect to them, part

636
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: of it may be a schedule because you got the

637
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Raiders in there, you got the Cardinals and Titans, but

638
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, playing close with Houston and then handling the Chargers. Clearly,

639
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: this is a team that have started to figure some

640
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: things out. What has been different in the last month.

641
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: For them, Yeah, I mean they're figuring out a way

642
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: to finish some close ball games, right. They didn't do

643
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: that last year, new regime and everything. This year clearly

644
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: of the Houston game was a debacle. I mean that

645
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: they were up by three scores in the fourth quarter

646
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: and blew the game. I mean, they just didn't finish

647
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: the game. So I think that woke them up a

648
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: little bit and say, hey, guys, we we could not

649
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: have that type of performance in the fourth quarter again,

650
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: especially against the backup quarterback for Houston. Strad wasn't out there.

651
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: So they come back after the next week and take

652
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: the Chargers out, and that was the best complete game

653
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Speaker 3: of the season. I know they've had some close ones,

654
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Speaker 3: but I don't even look at you know, the Cardinals

655
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Speaker 3: game or the Raiders game is I mean, those are

656
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: really tight games, but you still got to go find

657
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Speaker 3: a way to win them. And they may not be,

658
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, an elite team yet, but they're finding ways

659
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Speaker 3: to win and that's what comes out of these games.

660
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Speaker 3: And they're they're playing really well against the run on defense,

661
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Speaker 3: that's number one. They want to be physical in the

662
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Speaker 3: offensive line and run the ball. They didn't do it

663
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Speaker 3: last week against Tennessee, but they didn't have to because

664
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Speaker 3: Tennessee stinks. So they're finding ways to win and they're

665
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Speaker 3: in first place.

666
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Speaker 1: Okay, So Trevor Lawrence, we've talked so much about this,

667
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Speaker 1: I know, right, and when I look at Trevor Lawrence,

668
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Speaker 1: each time that I start to think he's got it

669
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Speaker 1: figured it out, then all of a sudden, there's like

670
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Speaker 1: a slight regression there. So JP, my question is in

671
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Speaker 1: the past game, Brian Thomas Junior is pretty special talent.

672
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Speaker 1: Are they going long form passing game or is Trevor

673
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Speaker 1: Lawrence becoming more of a short yardage I hate to

674
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Speaker 1: use the term dunk and dunk type quarterback.

675
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let's let's begin a few weeks ago

676
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: when Yeah, he was really having some issues down the

677
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: field or letting it fly or has itant or whatever.

678
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: He was hanging on to it or dumping it down

679
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: to the running back. And he had a conversation with

680
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen and the coach shared it with the media.

681
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, we just let it rip, Like

682
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: we don't mind if you get an extra interception or

683
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: so a game you don't want it, but hey, you know,

684
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Speaker 3: if if you complete three more down the field than

685
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: you are right now, okay, we'll take one. You're being aggressive.

686
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: Somebody makes a play on it on the back end.

687
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: Just let it loose, man, let it fly. Like just

688
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: that's the way you play the best when you're free

689
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: and don't have to worry about anything. Take for example,

690
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: the playoff game several years ago, gets the charges, get

691
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: thrown four picks in the first half. There's nothing to

692
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: lose then, so he's just letting it rip down the

693
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: field and they find their way back into the game

694
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: and win the thing. So that is kind of changed.

695
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: I think his mentality the last couple weeks where he's

696
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: been pretty comfortable in the pocket, especially against Tennessee last week,

697
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: and made some pretty strong throws downfield. But you're gonna

698
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: have some missus and there's gonna be some picks. It

699
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: is the full Trevor Lawrence experience. This is what it is.

700
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: We know this. You've got to be able to live

701
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: with it and have all the other parts of your

702
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: team do their job as well, defense and some special

703
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: team scores like they've had.

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Speaker 1: Is there still more there for him? I'm talking about

705
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in terms of who he can become or

706
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Speaker 1: are we at the point now in a guy's career

707
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Speaker 1: where not saying he's a bad quarterback, but where you

708
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea he is who he is.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think there's still a little more to come,

710
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: just because it is the back end of his first

711
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: season in this scheme. He seems to have it.

712
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Down pretty well.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the middle of the season, they were

714
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to streamline the pre snap

715
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: process because these play calls are pretty long and they're

716
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: in depth, and if you miss something then you got

717
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: to resay the whole thing again in the huddle, and

718
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: they were getting to the line late and that was

719
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: causing panic and pre snap motion penalty. All these things

720
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: are going on. So since then, he's gone to a wristband,

721
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: which has helped streamline the pre snap process, which I

722
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 3: think calms his mind a little bit. And credit him

723
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Speaker 3: for asking for it and credit the staff for not

724
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Speaker 3: you know, for budging and allowing him to do a

725
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 3: lot of staffs would be like, what are you talking about,

726
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: like learning offense, But this is to help him and

727
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Speaker 3: his process pre snap. I think that helps him moving

728
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Speaker 3: ahead once the snap is there, once year over the ball,

729
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: I think that would help them moving ahead. So there's

730
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Speaker 3: more out there. We'll see what happens. If Brian Thomas

731
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Speaker 3: can catch the football down the stretch, you know, that

732
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: would help. And he's been out for a couple of

733
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: weeks with an ankle injury, came back last week. They

734
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: need that deep threat down the field. They haven't really

735
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: had that consistently this season because they got everything else.

736
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Speaker 3: As you talked about, all the underneath stuff is there,

737
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: y Kobe Myers and the tight ends strange, but to

738
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Speaker 3: have something over the top would be a huge, huge

739
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: boon for this team.

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Speaker 1: JP. Are you a married fellow?

741
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Speaker 3: No? Why?

742
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, because I was going to use the analogy

743
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: or a set the scene of like you wake up

744
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: in the morning and your wife says, you know, you

745
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: look tired, none of No. So let's just say you

746
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: go to work and somebody's like, dude, you look tired,

747
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, I am because I

748
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: was up all night trying to figure out the one

749
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: area for the Jags that I just can't get a

750
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: hold on who they are and what they are. What

751
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: has been the most consistent thing of that storyline that

752
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: it would be for you over the course of this year.

753
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody tells me I'm tired. I just tell them

754
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: that I'm sick and tired of their crap. You know,

755
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: I just greely alone.

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Like mine your own business, like me right there. Matter

757
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: of fact, we're gonna do this again. I'm going to

758
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: ask if you're a married fella, and I want you

759
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: to answer it exactly like that. JPU a married fella?

760
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Speaker 3: Yeah, mind your own business? How about that? I think

761
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: I know what you mean. This is what's your identity?

762
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: Right Like?

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Speaker 1: What are they correct or what's the area where they're

764
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: not and you feel they should be? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think the defenses really started to show that they

766
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: are a really good run stuffing defense. We'll find out

767
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: on Sunday. Clearly against Jonathan Taylor, they have not allowed

768
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: a rusher this year to run for seventy or more

769
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: yards than a game a single running back on them,

770
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: So that's that doesn't happen too often in full seasons.

771
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: They got a few games to go if they can

772
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: kind of make some history. But this is a tough

773
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 3: test this week. But they feel like they're stout there

774
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: and they're a pretty good takeaway team early in the season.

775
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: They've got to get back to that on defense. On offense,

776
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: that's a great question. I think they want to be

777
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: the physical group that runs the ball first and then

778
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: throws off that in short down in distance on second

779
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: and third. That's their old goal. It's not, you know,

780
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 3: putting four wide and throwing it all over the yard.

781
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: We've seen that with Trevor Lawrence. You don't want I

782
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: don't think you want him throwing it forty five times

783
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: a game. You know, twenty eight's fine, and run the ball,

784
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: and that's that's what they're best at, I think right now.

785
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: And what they're not best at is spreading it out

786
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: and throwing it around. If they're down in a game,

787
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: you know it's going to be tough because there is

788
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: some inconsistency in the passing game and they've had some

789
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: drops this year and that's just kind of what it

790
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: is here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't ask

792
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: because I know that you obviously, as I mentioned off

793
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: the top, you know you've you got some knowledge of

794
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: college football as well. I'm going to give you two games.

795
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I want you to quickly handicap it and give me

796
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: your prediction. Georgia Alabama.

797
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, Alabama cannot run. They did actually run one of

798
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: their higher marks last week in Auburn, but it's not

799
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: consistent in the season. If they get in the head

800
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: of the quarterback, I think Kirby Smart and that defense

801
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: will have a chance to do that for the second time.

802
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: They didn't do it last time in the regular season.

803
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 3: I think Georgia gets this football game.

804
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Indiana Ohio State.

805
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Speaker 3: Who boy in Ohio Stake's good quarterbacks, good Black seavers,

806
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: really good. The defensive back is fantastic. They've got pieces

807
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: and parts and they know how to win games like this.

808
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: And Indiana has not been here yet, so this is

809
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: their first time really in the dance like this. I

810
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: think Ohio State wins just because of that experience. But

811
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Speaker 3: I think it's a closer game than a lot of

812
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: people might think.

813
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd ask you BYU Texas Tech, but then you'll

814
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: tell me to mind my own business. Right, A good

815
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: point who up is that there is some truth to that, right,

816
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: you gotta feel bad. I mean Texas Tech is apparently

817
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: like really good dude. I'll be honest with you, I've

818
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: seen none of them this year, right, it's kind of

819
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: true to BYU as well.

820
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: Actually had by U on the other night just for

821
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: the first time in like Texas Tech. Same thing. Either

822
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm doing a game, I'm busy and they're not on

823
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: or what you know, So I've missed them, so I

824
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: have no comment on that game business.

825
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, all right, jpre appreciate what's the weather going

826
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: to be down there? I had assume typical, what's sixty five? Good?

827
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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to rain. I think there's rain in

828
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: the forecast, so and like one hundred percent chance of

829
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Speaker 3: rain and most of the day, so yes, But temperatures

830
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: will be in probably mid sixties. But it's supposed to

831
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: be wet, so the JAG's been working with a wet

832
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: ball all week long. And we'll see, if you know,

833
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: what kind of offense each side can have in the

834
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: in the swamp here. We'll see what happens. But I

835
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be a lot of a lot of rain,

836
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: all right.

837
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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure man. We'll talk to you probably after

838
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: the holidays, because of course Jacksonville comes back up here

839
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: right after Christmas. And look forward to talking to you again.

840
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: And single ladies of Indianapolis please reach out. That's great.

841
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: You will not tell them to mind their own businesses.

842
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: I know you're always welcome.

843
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: That's right, JP, appreciate it, man. Be good. That's our

844
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: buddy from Jaguars dot Com. By the way, JP Shadwick

845
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville. Really really good. Dude, obviously goes without

846
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: saying