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Speaker 1: Live from the Heart Blind and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So the motives might become clearer and clearer, but we

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Speaker 2: have a basic idea of what happened. This guy who

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Speaker 2: played what was it football in high school, who was

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Speaker 2: known in Nevada to be a potential threat a history

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Speaker 2: of mental health issues as described, walked through New York

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Speaker 2: holding an AR fifteen, walked into a building that housed

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Speaker 2: the headquarters for was it Blackrock? Black Stone? Sorry and

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and started shooting, ended up on the wrong floor,

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Speaker 2: killed for including a New York City police officer, and

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Speaker 2: killed himself. Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you. Find everything I do over at tonykats dot com,

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Speaker 2: streaming live on YouTube, look for Tony Katz on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: ex Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Cats Radio. In all of this,

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Speaker 2: there is going to be a tremendous amount that is

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Speaker 2: not discussed regarding these people who were killed. It should

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Speaker 2: be this officer of these people who did absolutely nothing wrong,

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Speaker 2: going to be sadly this forgotten story because we're going

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Speaker 2: to take a look at the mental health issues of

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Speaker 2: this guy. And then of course We're going to take

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Speaker 2: a look at CNN, which, in its most pathetic way,

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Speaker 2: without knowing anything, admitting they knew nothing.

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Speaker 3: They went down the racial road with a.

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Speaker 1: Long gun visible, so it sounded like he other than

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Speaker 1: the long gun, which is not a simple thing to say,

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Speaker 1: other than in New York City, right, people don't walk

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Speaker 3: But was his face visible? I mean, do they have

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Speaker 3: any idea at this point who he is? They do

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Speaker 1: They know he is a male, possibly white.

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Speaker 2: He's wearing sunglasses, he appears to have a mustache, and

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Speaker 2: that picture has been distributed to every police officer in

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Speaker 2: New York City, possibly white. If you already had a photo,

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Speaker 2: then you know he wasn't white. Why in the world

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Speaker 2: would you say for what reason would you say possibly white?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Burnett should be ashamed of herself and see an

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Speaker 2: n should be ashamed of themselves. But they have no shame,

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Speaker 2: and this much is obvious. We'll get into this part

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Speaker 2: of the madness, and I know that's where a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are gonna focus. I'm not saying that they're wrong,

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Speaker 2: if it's okay by you. I want to focus on

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Speaker 2: this guy who had a documented mental health history.

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Speaker 3: I'm not using his name. I don't give names.

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Speaker 2: I don't give you know, any celebrity to them. This

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Speaker 2: guy works as a security guard at Vegas Casino. He

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Speaker 2: shot through the lobby, shot the majority of victims before

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Speaker 2: heading to the thirty third floor. Now, as it's been reported,

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Speaker 2: he thought that was the floor where the NFL was,

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Speaker 2: the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: He was on the wrong floor.

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Speaker 2: It was on that floor where he took his own life.

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Speaker 2: They found a rifle case with rounds in the car,

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Speaker 2: loaded revolver, extra ammunition, magazines, a backpack, and medication prescribed

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Speaker 2: to him. The New York Post says that he had

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Speaker 2: a concealed firearms permit from Las Vegas with a twenty

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Speaker 3: Now, I would assume that would mean from Nevada, not specifically.

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, but not being an expert on the rules

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Speaker 2: and clearly that could be wrong, because, as we know,

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Speaker 2: very often these news outlets get news outlets get everything

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Speaker 2: with firearms wrong.

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Speaker 3: The question is what was known.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about motivation. Right there, there's the word

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Speaker 2: that he was believed that he was suffering from CTE,

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Speaker 2: and he what was he gonna do? Blame the CTE

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Speaker 2: Chronic dramatic encephalopathy. It's a disease related to head trauma,

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Speaker 2: and it'll affect thinking, it'll affect mood.

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Speaker 3: And there are many who think that football.

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Speaker 2: Leads down this road. I have no expertise on the subject.

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Speaker 2: But this guy didn't play in the NFL. He played

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Speaker 2: in high school, I believe. I'm not even so sure

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Speaker 2: he played in college. What in the world does any

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Speaker 2: of this have to do with the NFL? Well, Tony,

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Speaker 2: if you already have a brain injury, you're not.

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Speaker 3: Thinking, right. Let's hold that right there, hold that thought for.

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Speaker 2: A moment, if you would. Let's get back to this.

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Speaker 2: Law enforcement in Las Vegas. According to the police commissioners

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Speaker 2: had a quote documented mental health history. What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Documented mental health history? What does one do with that information?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that Las Vegas police knew that he

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Speaker 3: Was this known? Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: If they knew he was a threat, what in the

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Speaker 3: You would think that that's possible.

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Speaker 2: What of the rumors, again, rumors that there was notification.

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Speaker 2: I have seen this in not everywhere. I've seen this

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Speaker 2: in a couple of spots. This also got emailed to me.

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Speaker 2: Law enforcement mentioned he had a known history of mental

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Speaker 2: health issues, revealed to New York City police by Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas authorities two weeks before the shooting. Now I state

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Speaker 2: to you that that could be proven untrue as we

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Speaker 2: get more information, But if so, much reminded me of

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Speaker 2: these terror watch lists.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got a terrorist watch list.

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Speaker 2: We're watching this one on terror watch list, and we're

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Speaker 2: watching that one on the terror watch.

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Speaker 3: List, and then you see something happened.

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Speaker 2: Was one of these people on the terrorist watch list? Well,

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Speaker 2: what was the point of the watch list? Who in

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Speaker 2: the world was watching? And is that person now out

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Speaker 2: of a job or in jail? I'll take both. Please,

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Speaker 2: What did we know here? What could have been stopped here?

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Speaker 2: What is it that was known to the police in Nevada,

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Speaker 2: And what could they have.

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Speaker 3: Done if he was known to have mental health issues.

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Speaker 2: What work was done to ensure he didn't have access

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Speaker 3: And I want to be clear.

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Speaker 2: All of the actions in the world don't stop the

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Speaker 2: mentally disturbed person from being mentally disturbed. And until someone

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Speaker 2: actually does something, you can't you know, precognis thing. This

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Speaker 2: isn't minority report. You could only do the best you

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Speaker 2: can do. But if a warning was given, well then

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Speaker 2: maybe more could have been done, should have been done.

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Speaker 2: We should be more honest about these things. This often

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Speaker 2: leads down to a conversation of red flag laws and

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Speaker 2: being able to adjudicate somebody mentally unfit so they can't

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Speaker 2: get access to a firearm. The problem is progressis abuse

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff because they don't think anybody should

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Speaker 2: when this guy started shooting, because I agree, I doubt

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Speaker 2: you could have stopped the first shot, the second shot,

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Speaker 2: That's my take. This is the part of the conversation

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Speaker 2: that matters. Of course, we will get into the despicableness

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Speaker 2: of CNN, their absolute failure as a news outlet, possibly white.

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Speaker 2: What the hell you didn't know anything, but you said that.

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Speaker 2: That's a fireball offense. CNN has to be embarrassed. Wait,

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Speaker 2: these people have no shame. They should be embarrassed. But

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Speaker 2: again with the lack of shame, do you know how

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Speaker 2: many good hosts are out there who would say, who

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Speaker 2: whah whah, we don't have that information yet, don't put

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Speaker 2: that out there. No, no, no, sir, I don't care

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Speaker 2: if you're a so called expert.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a gross thing to say. Only tell us

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Speaker 3: what you know.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell us what you think until you're asked about

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Speaker 2: what you think, so we can describe it as something

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Speaker 2: you think and not as data. That's what a host

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Speaker 2: should have done. That's what any host worked there, Damn Salt.

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Speaker 3: Would have done.

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Speaker 2: Seemingly not Aaron Burnett in this case. There's plenty to

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Speaker 2: discuss there. But are we going to discuss Hey, we

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Speaker 2: know this guy is a problem. Oh well, let it

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Speaker 2: be New York's problem. Oh he left for Indiana. Let

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Speaker 2: it be Indiana's problem, or Oklahoma's problem, or Tennessee's problem.

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Speaker 3: Let it be let it be Peoria's problem.

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Speaker 2: But that is not going to work, and that's one

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Speaker 2: of the real stories here. So this is all we

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Speaker 2: have right now. This is all we know. There were

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Speaker 2: notes left and everything else. We'll get a fuller picture

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Speaker 2: in the days ahead. But if we don't start doing

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Speaker 2: something in our own municipalities, in our own cities about

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Speaker 2: the people we know are a problem and we don't

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Speaker 2: have a system for dealing with these things before they happen, well,

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of odd. I would think that

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Speaker 2: that's foolhardy, and maybe very well. The answer is, Tonny,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing that could be done early, because if there is,

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Speaker 2: if there's a system that the people who think that

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Speaker 2: your family, they'll use that system against.

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Speaker 3: You, which we know comes true. And then we get stuck.

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Speaker 2: With Oh, well, I guess these things are going to

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Speaker 2: happen from time to time. I just think there should

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Speaker 2: be more distance in the times and the times. If

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Speaker 2: we were honest people, this would be the conversation we're

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Speaker 2: having discussing CNN's bigotry. Oh sure, agreed, We can have

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Speaker 2: more than one conversation at a time, I'm Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz today