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So I was gonna do 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: some big intro for you, because well, the fate of 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: humanity rests in your hands. Now it's Jim Merritt. Hello, 41 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Robert and you know him as the owner operator of 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: Indiepolitics dot org. 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: Dull keeps your baz. 44 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: Hello, So, Jim, if the finish man is in your hands, 45 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: you're not butterfingers, are you? 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Well? 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: I got no more sticky than. 48 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: I got what show I was doing? 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: Confused? 50 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna do the Kennel and Casey 51 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: show first, But then we're doing this show all right? 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: So the the big news came out what this would 53 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: have been two days ago? Now that the i u 54 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: r C. What are you guys called the nominating committee? Yes, 55 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: we are regulating. Yeah, the i u r C, the 56 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Indiana Utility Regulatory Commissions Nominating Committee. 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Correct, very good, thank you. 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: And I've been on it since twenty twenty. 59 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say, it's like nineteen seventy five, 60 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: they'll do with this fire you have. You have narrowed 61 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: it down to twenty two people who will be interviewed 62 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: to decide who the new commissioners will be. Now, we 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: generally assume that people listening to this program a little 64 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: more in tuned to Indiana politics and government than your 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: rank and file or normal run of the mill person. 66 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: But just in case people don't know the i u 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: r C, the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission, is the group 68 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: that oversees It's an appointed body. What's five members, right, correct, 69 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: and they oversee pretty much all things related to utilities, 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: correct in the state of Indiana, including and most prominent 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: right now, it's many other things, but the approval. 72 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Of rate increases. 73 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, all right, And so they are about 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: to be three openings for this committee. One of these 75 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: people has to be a Republican. 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: Yes, one of these people now here was there was. 77 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a Democrat. 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: It could be a libertarian, right, yes, it could be 79 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: they call minority non Republican, yeah, minority party, yes, yes, 80 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: And then you'll you'll pick these two people, and then 81 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna pick a new chairman who, let's say that's 82 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: gonna be a Republican. 83 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: Well, the government governor will pick the. 84 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Ch Yeah, you're gonna I'm sorry, yes, let me rephrase that. 85 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: You're going to nominate somebody, and then the governor will 86 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: make say, yes, sir. 87 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: We're going to nominate three people for three positions. So 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: nine of the twenty two will be nominated to the 89 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: governor for his selection. 90 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: So you will actually nominate three people for each position, 91 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: and then he's got to pick one of them. Yes, 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: So you're not just gonna say, here's here's nine people, Yeah, 93 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: pick the three U one like, no, this one's this position. 94 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 95 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: This is very much similar to how the state Supreme 96 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: Court is picked, in which there's a committee, they pick 97 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: three judges, they give them to the governor and they say, 98 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: please pick one of these people. Okay, very good. All right, 99 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: so you're on this committee I am that nominates. Twenty 100 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: two names have been revealed. You'll interview these people. Let's 101 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: start with this. Is there a misconception from the plot 102 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: because the governor has come out and said, well, and 103 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm not quoting a verbatim, but basically I'm trying to 104 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: paraphrase what he's saying here or you know, caps you know, 105 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: simplify what he's saying. Oh, we've had enough, right increases. 106 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: I want somebody that's on the side of the rate payer. 107 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Those days are over. However, you need a Capitol Chronicle 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: did a good job of reporting that the actual charge 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: of the commission is to be neither on. 110 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: The side of the rate pay nor the utility. 111 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: But basically being on. 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: We also have the Office of Utility Commissioner. Uh you did, 113 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: o UCC, Office of Utility councilor Consumer councilor's right and 114 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 5: so uh and Abi Gray, who's the new appointee from 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: a governor from Governor Braun, has come out against the 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: as rate case. And so you have that sitting there. 117 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: For those not familiar as as a major electric provider 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: in central the. 119 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: Former Indianapolis Parker Power Light. And so you have this 120 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: whole it's it's somebody might say, delicious collision in the 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: public domain of the ir C and the o u 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: c C. And I've participated in this in the last 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: thirty five years of building this process, making as public 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 5: as possible in the in the last couple of times 125 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: that we have met since twenty twenty, we've actually encouraged, 126 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 5: had to encourage people to apply, pulling people off the street, 127 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: Abdul and and so. 128 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, then thanks to our show, everybody found out it 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: pays one hundred and fifty grand and all. Now you 130 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: turn the people away left and right. 131 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: Well, you know that is right. This this it robs rob. 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: You can scratch your own back on this, and you too, Abduall. No, 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: one's really known this has gone on, and uh what 134 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: to say? 135 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: The web side of that is though, if you're on 136 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: the Utility Commission, you cannot have outside employment. 137 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 5: That's exactly, yeah, because there are strict rules. 138 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: Oh so this is your job? 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: Yes, oh yes, the thing is is I think Pervoni 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: Pervani Stover, who is the chief staff for Susie Jeffrodowski, 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 5: the Energy UH Secretary, has had to spend most of 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: her time last couple of weeks telling people exactly what 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: this job is. Ladies, No one knows, ladies and gentlemen, 144 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 5: this is the cave. This the i U r C. 145 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: Is a place that you go and you. 146 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Thought that you're gonna say to die. 147 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: No, just no, the livy will envy the dead. No, no, 148 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: but but but it does shine light on something that 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: impacts everybody. And I tell people this is the meat 150 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: and potatoes of governing. You no, the Todd raket to 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: the diego morales, that's that's kind of that's kind of 152 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: fun to sort of, you know, pontificate. But this is 153 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: the stuff that this is brass tacks. This is what 154 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 4: really impacts people, like who are you know, the people 155 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: on the commission? You know what rates are going to 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: be up, because rates are going up regardless. I firmly 157 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: believe that the question is how much or how much 158 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: of the rate's going to go on? 159 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 5: They always go up. 160 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, It's funny because when I was elect the public office, 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: I had all these big ideas, and a veteran local 162 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: elected official said, well, that's really cute. 163 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: And that's some of these ideas are really good. 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: But what you'll find is the most important stuff is 165 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: the most boring stuff that you're not gonna get any 166 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: credit for, and and the local papers or radio stations 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: are gonna cover it. But it's things like uh, water sewer, 168 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: you know those sorts of things. 169 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 6: Oh well they're famous now yeah, well yeah, but I 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 6: mean that's like but that's what I'm saying, That's what 171 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 6: you're sort of saying here, a duel is this is 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 6: the stuff that actually decides how much people pay, how 173 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 6: they're the most direct impact on their lives. 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Where the diego find Morales Secretary of State finds one 175 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: illegal person voting in the entire state that has no 176 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: impact on you whatsoever, this actually affects everyone. 177 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and you know some selacious is probably the wrong term, 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: but we probably won't talk about the ie rec uh 179 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: and in the coming years because it is so quiet. 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: And you know when when someone made a comment about 181 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 5: about our taking the now numbers down from forty seven 182 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 5: to twenty two in private, well you when you were 183 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 5: on your board, on your commission, or on your on 184 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 5: your town what do you serve on the town councils 185 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 5: down the town council you met in. 186 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: Cut property taxes eighteen and a half percent in four years. 187 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: You guys should have tried. 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: That in the state. 189 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 4: Would have been more hack. Yeah, most of your says 190 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: values went up too, because a lot of people are 191 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: told because this is a good job. 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead. 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: With warehouse Burg. We you know we you met in 194 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 5: executive session, that's right, yes, And what we had to 195 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: do with the forty seven and it was enormous to 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: us to get through forty seven resumes in two hours 197 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: is taken down to something manageable with twenty two. And 198 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: as well as the fact that these individuals whoever we pick, 199 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 5: whoever the nine individuals, we suggest to the governor they 200 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 5: have to take over on day one, day one and 201 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 5: start looking at this as case. Because just because the 202 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: mayor came out and said, this is what I want. 203 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: This body has to make a decision on the residence 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: of Indianapolis and who who as serves uh and and 205 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 5: make a decision relatively quickly. It impacts everybody. And it's 206 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 5: something that uh uh, we don't want the governor. We 207 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 5: when we formed all this, the last thirty five years, 208 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: this process, we didn't want the governor to be able 209 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 5: to fill each of these spots. And and uh and 210 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 5: in this body, this Nominating Commission Committee that I'm on, 211 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: has to uh look at number one, the the temperament 212 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: that if you're it's almost like a judge, and as 213 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: well as the reason of it. And and we and 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: you have to listen to all comers, meaning the environmentalists 215 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: and the rape. 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: Page but has but Jim has a point. 217 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: You'll probably say it better. 218 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: It's like being a judge. You you take you know, 219 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: people from all walks of life, and you got to 220 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 4: put your personal opinions aside. And then what does the 221 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: law say? What is the fact? Now this doesn't mean 222 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: you operate in a vacuum. Somebody's lying. You can pretty 223 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: much tell no. 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 5: You'd like to have an engineer, you'd like to have 225 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 5: a lawyer, you like to have a small businessman, you 226 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: like to have somebody that actually pays rates. You want 227 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 5: this body to be as diverse as possible, so you 228 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: have the very best you. 229 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: Want diversity of experiences. Well, yeah, and I because some 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: people were critical that. So you guys got forty seven applications, 231 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: you've narrowed it down to twenty two. Yes, you did 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: that discussion mostly in private. That's what I told people 233 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: and said, Look, I have no problem with this because 234 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: you've got to be able to freely discuss essentially personnel. 235 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: Gotta be able to do that. But the interviews are 236 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: going to be public, absolutely okay, and that's that's I 237 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: have no problem with any of that. 238 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 5: And anybody wants to be bored, uh you know night, Yeah, 239 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 5: tune in and you know we're we're going to ask 240 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: some very difficult questions and and when is this is this? Yeah? 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: It is next week? 242 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh, next week, Yes, it's maybe we'll just cut off 243 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: the Kennel and Casey show and just go to the interview. 244 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: You know, your ratings will just zoom down, like dude, 245 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: this is like c SPAN four on Sunday night. 246 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday next week and 247 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: nine to five, and uh, we're virtually volunteers, and everybody 248 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: on that nominating committee, UH is giving time. You know. 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: I'm sure we're gonna get pretty em But I paid 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: for my parking. 251 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: And so you know, real real quick. You told me 252 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: this the other day. I didn't mean cutch out, but 253 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: we gotta tell the story. You used for thirty years 254 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: in the Senate. Yes, when you laugh, they gave you 255 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: some sort of lifetime thank you award or something like that. 256 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 5: Well, I, in fact, I used to be in charge 257 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: of getting the little eagles a little a little glass 258 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 5: eagle with my name on it. 259 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they made you pay to park to go 260 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: get your own award. 261 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: I did. I did pay for parking on the day 262 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: I was honored in the Senate. 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Jim has always looked out for the taxpayers. 264 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 5: And I have paid for my parking ever since. 265 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 266 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: Okay, you know that was one of the perks of 267 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 5: the job being in state, said primus. You got you 268 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: got the park downtown and in the. 269 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Flat lot, yes, in the flatt all the important people. 270 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I love this place. 271 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. 272 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so your your gold on this show today, Jim, 273 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: because you're a part of this committee, tell us what 274 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: you're looking for from these candidates. 275 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 5: I'm looking from these candidates to first of all, show 276 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 5: their knowledge of what the i r C actually does. 277 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: Number one two, that they have a reasonable personality the 278 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: characters there, that that you come from a walk of life, 279 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: that that understands rates, that understands the impact on commercial, industrial, 280 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: and residential. And but more importantly, that you have a 281 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: judicial you have this this temperament that you can be 282 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: balanced and you can weigh all comers and somebody that 283 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: is that doesn't care about that doesn't want to be public, 284 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: that can go into the i r C and make 285 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: a decision that is balanced, that is fair. That is 286 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 5: what I want. 287 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall will gives your Baz. 288 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: Jim Merritt's program, State Ho's Happening is a weekly look 289 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: at what's going on with Indiana politics and government. I'm 290 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: sure we'll talk about this a lot more next week 291 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: with these interviews going on. 292 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 5: Well, then the next week the pressure goes to Room 293 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 5: two O six the Governor's office, where where he will 294 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: have nine people or he will have nine suggestions to 295 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: take UH to UH take some idea on who he 296 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: wants to make rape policy uh in the coming years, and. 297 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: I would, I would, I would one nominee in particular, 298 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: one possible name on the picto that I saw on 299 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: the list was Caroline May's Caroline Carolyn May's Uh, the 300 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: publisher of the Annapolis. 301 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: Order, former former commission member, and a former commission member. 302 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: So you can come back, Yes you be making don't 303 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: call it a comeback. 304 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, there there there are. 305 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: She is African American and female. 306 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: There are some very interesting candidates. 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Okay, we got to get the 348 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: things other than utilities. And the big thing this weekend 349 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: was this no Kings protest. 350 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: And do all start with you. 351 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Here's what I said, impressive showing lots of people, but 352 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: the people yet speaking and the lack of a coherent, 353 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 2: consistent message. You're just not changing anybody's mind. And then 354 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: we'll get to the expert, Jim Merritt, because you heard 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: protests for years. 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: Look, a lot of. 357 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: People, a lot of people, a lot of angry people. 358 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: I get it, but I already knew you were out 359 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: there in the state of seven million people. I already 360 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: knew there were seven thousand really angry people. I just 361 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: don't think it changes anything. 362 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: You see. I think it does. And here's why I 363 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: think I think it does, because it took me back 364 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: when I saw the kind of monitored the protests online. 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: It's like, no, what this takes me back to two 366 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: thousand and seven doing the property tax you know, first proprotecture, 367 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: both have got Greg Ballad elected. When a thousand people 368 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 4: showed up on Monument Circle in the summertime, we're an 369 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 4: all black, like ninety degree weather. And this is this 370 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: is before Facebook, before you know Evi's before the whole thing, 371 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: when the when the internet was in, It's when the 372 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: social media was in its early stages. This is basically 373 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: a couple of blogs and word of mouth. Like, if 374 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: you've got a thousand people on Monument Circle, something is 375 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: about to happen here. And I saw the same parallels 376 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: that with the No No Kings protests here in Indiana, 377 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: particularly here in Indianapolis. Like they don't ness, they don't 378 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: necessarily have a coherent mester where they're all mad about something. Well, no, 379 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: no no. 380 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 6: No. 381 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: The thing is, though, every mob needs a leader, and 382 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: you find the right But when you find the right 383 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: person who taps into that, you're gonna have something. And 384 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: when and I looked at you know something like they're 385 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: being paid or blah blah blah blahh good, like know what, 386 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. They're mad and they're ticked off, and 387 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: once they get organized, somebody's gonna feel something. 388 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I been mad, Okay, Jim, I've been mad 389 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: and ticked off for years. We put a thousand people 390 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: in the state House with the governor and Lieutenant governor 391 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: as our featured speakers. 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: And you know what the General Assembly did with that? 393 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: They wiped their butt cheeks with it, like I'm sorry 394 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: Destiny Wells and Andrea Hunley and Caddy Fatty Cadora like 395 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: that's ok, that's like a move anybody. 396 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: Well, I do disagree with my friend Abdul. I think 397 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: I love it when you well, if you remember back then, 398 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: uh that that uh, their their goal back then was 399 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: was was Mayor Pearson, but I think he he added 400 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 5: on the council added on that increase, yes, and they 401 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: left they left people out in the heat outside the 402 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 5: city County building, and and they had feeling to it, 403 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: they had a goal and also time was not not 404 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: on whoever was on the other side the elections. Right 405 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: then I looked, I look at the No Kings being 406 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 5: a thud. There's no there's no gelling to a part 407 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: of what what what is their goal? And there's no 408 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 5: election this year. Uh they made it made and made 409 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 5: an impression on you. They made impression on other people. 410 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 5: But but there's no there there you see. 411 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: But here's where's what I got to push back plot 412 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: with my good friend mister Mary. Yeah, let us go 413 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: not being nice about it. I'm like bugs up with 414 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: the brick and. 415 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: Glove and slap every I'm just sitting back in my 416 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: chair with my feet. 417 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: Put your velvet glove on. 418 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: Because here's my thing. If you, if you the No 419 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: King's rally is in the context of everything else that's happened. 420 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: You got the redistricting things that people are mad about, 421 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: got the health care thing that people are mad about, 422 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: and everybody's angry and they're gonna take that anger out 423 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: on somebody. And that's why I think if you're an 424 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: uncomment right now, you're you need to need to be 425 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: worrying now. Granted, you're absolutely right. When when we had 426 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: the proper tax protest was bubble for election, they decided to, Hey, 427 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: want to raise taxes sixty five percent? And just you know, 428 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: how'd that work out for you? 429 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 5: Right? 430 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 4: But but I do think we're seeing this, we're seeing 431 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: the seeds right now that if the Bronn people do 432 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: not address what their issues are, it's not going to end. 433 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 5: Well, I'll agree with you that the seeds are there. 434 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 5: It just depends if it's going to be if it's 435 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 5: going to be nourished or not, or is that soil 436 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 5: around those needs and those those seeds going to it 437 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 5: happens what happens next? Now, if it if the thuds, 438 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, kysh it's a year before the twenty twenty 439 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: sixth election. 440 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: And and who are they going to before the primary? 441 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: Who are they going to take it out of? Yeah, 442 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: that's the question. And and I that's with with your 443 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: with your protests in the state House and all the 444 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 5: noise you made, uh and and obviously it didn't affect 445 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 5: the legislature that much, but we still yeah, but we 446 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 5: still talk about it, and and it just depends on 447 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 5: what happens next. 448 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 4: Because if you think about it, the proper text protest 449 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 4: was from the right, but no, King's protest is from 450 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: the lefts So you're kind of ticking off, sure, and 451 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: you're right out of room in the middle. 452 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: Well, so let's let's I want to get two things 453 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: before we go. 454 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: One. Braun has now said you gotta have a decision 455 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: on redistricting by mid November or it's too late. I 456 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: still maintain they're setting it up for Org Day like 457 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing at this point. 458 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's why he's where instances pressure is 459 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: coming from the Senate that they don't want to do it. 460 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 4: And the other part of the other part of thing too, 461 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: is the other reason we said November. It's got Supreme 462 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: Court decisions come out in October. Yeah, and they desert 463 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: at the redistricting issue. 464 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: And louis Well, they gotta get this thing done because 465 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: they got they have a filing deadline and they gotta 466 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 5: let the courts act. 467 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: And I still believe, well, wait, wait, Supreme Court June 468 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: is when they come out. They just heard the Louisiana case. Yeah, 469 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: but usual the dis come out in October. 470 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: No, they come out in June. 471 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: No, they Supreme Court can speak in October on case. 472 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, they can't, but don't normally don't all the big cases, don't. 473 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: They normally at the end of June. That's when they 474 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 5: when the big cases are. But they still they can. 475 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 5: They can speak at anything, sure, but October is a 476 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 5: point in time where they can speak. 477 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, so you guys do you guys, Just 478 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: to get on the record here, there will or will 479 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: not be a special session. 480 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: I don't know a special session. I think they'll use 481 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 5: ORG Day for a tool to get this done. Yet 482 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: I believe they will redistrict. 483 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: Okay, and you I believe they will redistrict and the 484 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: redistion will be I'll put on whole very good, okay, hurt, Yeah, okay, 485 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: very good. All right. 486 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: So the last thing I wanted to get to today 487 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: because sort of I think you guys are right these 488 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: the redistrict thing is part of the no kings. 489 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: Not that I agree with it, no, no, no, no, 490 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: I just I asked you whether you thought that would happen. 491 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 492 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: The the other thing that is the heart of this 493 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: is this is the last chance for the Democrats. Can 494 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: we all agree this is the last chance for the 495 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: Democrats with bow Bye, Like, if they can't win with 496 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: him with all the money that he's raising, bow Bye 497 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: son of Evan By, former governor, senator. We all know 498 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: that birch By, former grandson of birch By, former senator, 499 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: if they can't win with him, because he's raising a 500 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: gagillia dollars. He looks straight out of Central Casting. His 501 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: life is probably the like he is probably the squeakiest, 502 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: cleanest person imaginable, and he's running against the worst person 503 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: there well could be running against the worst person the 504 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Republicans could possibly run. You talk about the sort of 505 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: what you mentioned, which is the left is ticked off, 506 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: right is ticked off? Is bo Bay the guy that 507 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: could be the biggest beneficiary of all this because he's 508 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: palatable enough that the Republicans could go cam done with 509 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: the corrup should I'm done with this, I'll vote for 510 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 2: this guy. 511 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: And obviously the left. 512 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 4: One and the other thing to keep in mind too, Yeah, 513 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 4: twenty six is that odd year where there is no 514 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: governor's race, is no USN and racerails and PRESENTI race. 515 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: So what's at the top of the ticket. The Secretary 516 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: of State right and over here at six one and 517 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty five pounds, goo bye, and over 518 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: here at four twelve and ninety four pounds. If you 519 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: win is a man from Guatemala, Diego Morales. 520 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: That's a that's a heck of a intro there, Michael Butler. 521 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: But Robert, you asked a question, Is this the last 522 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: gasp of a statewide Democrat to win? Yes? Yeah, yes, 523 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 5: they have no future. And I still believe that it's 524 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 5: gonna be very difficult for young buy to win. 525 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: I agree. 526 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: I had him on our show Friday, and I will 527 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: say the following things. He's got a ways to go, 528 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: but he will get much better. And when I say 529 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: get much better, it's not like he's making horrible gas 530 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: now letting James Briggs write an article from his house 531 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: that had no furniture in it. 532 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: That was dumb. 533 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh but James Briggs of Indie Star. But I'm saying 534 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: in terms of the way he articulates. And it's very 535 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: clear they are going to run almost exclusively on the 536 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: corruption of Diego Morales, or what they're gonna let you 537 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: with is the corruption of Diego Morales and the Republican 538 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: parties sort of do nothing approach to him. I think 539 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: that'd be has become very clear that Diego's behavior is 540 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: going to be this central theme of everything. 541 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: And I can see, I can tell you right now 542 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: what this logan is going to be. 543 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: Had enough well that that's the thing, is what they'll 544 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: put out about him, and the amount of money they'll 545 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: have to do it, and it's they're going to, I think, 546 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: try to indict the entire Republican Party as part of Diego, 547 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Like you cannot separate Diego from the people that are 548 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 2: calling the shots. 549 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: And this is well, Diegols was taking trimps to India. 550 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 4: What did Rod Bray say exactly? What did Todd Houston say? 551 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: Where was Mike Braun, Where was Michael Beckwith? They've all 552 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: been silent. We're not gonna be silent anymore. 553 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: Well don't. 554 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised at all because we've been very 555 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: critical of Micah With going to the NBA Finals with 556 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: a high profile known Felon. Don't forget Diego was in 557 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: that photo too, right, and Diego's got ties to this 558 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: guy too, And so like I'm saying all of that stuff, 559 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: I can't wait for this election because it is gonna. 560 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: Be nasty beyond belief. And I'm with you. I think 561 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: this is it for the Democrats, and I think they 562 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: know it, and they're gonna put all the chips in. 563 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get this kid elected absolutely and young 564 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: by it works towards has to work towards that TikTok 565 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: versus being a serious candidate and and wearing his sweatshirt. 566 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: Uh is a kid? Look at a kid? Look maybe 567 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 5: a blue sport coat on the on the whole time 568 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: they have they have to put him out there as 569 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: a serious candidate, but still a candidate for this generation. 570 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: He represents and the perfect candidate. Look at is what's 571 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: his face? Is running for mayor of New York City? 572 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: Who does all? Who does you? Mad? It with his politics? 573 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: But the guy's like really good, yes at TikTok And 574 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: he's in social media and having a sense of humor 575 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: but still being serious. 576 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I think it's a very I mean, 577 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: we got John Mellencamp giving you money. I mean not 578 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: that that's some sort of end all be all, but 579 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 580 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: Money is not gonna be a problem. And it's the 581 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 5: mother's milk of politics. 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