1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Way, way, way, way, way. You're telling me Chuck Schumer 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: allegedly invented fake people. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: He did, and he uses them all the time as reference. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: They are named the Baileys. They're a middle class couple 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: from Massapequa, Long Island, and they have been invented by 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer as a centrist swing voter. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Archetype English casey, what do you mean? Like, what do 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: you mean they invented them? 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me see if I can put this 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: in terms you might be able to understand. Sure, when 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: you were a young radio disc jockey, did your boss 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: ever say, Okay, your target demo is a twenty five 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: to fifty four year old male. Okay, So in your mind, 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: I want you to picture that man, give him a name, 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: and give him an age, and that's who you're talking 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: to on a daily basis. So in your mind you go, okay, sure, 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: my guy's name is Joe. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: He's forty years old, and he drives a truck. 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Okay, And every time. 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: You crack the mic, you're supposed to picture Joe. Yeah, 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: got in your mind. Sure, absolutely, this is what Chuck 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Schumer has done only with voters, and he's been using 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: them for years. He put out a book in two 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: thousand and seven called Positively American. He mentioned the Baileys, 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: this fake couple two hundred and sixty five times. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: Well, so like, okay, what you're talking about is we 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: would do it in our heads. Except he has verbally 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: espoused or in the written word, that. 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: These di's you mentioned them in speeches, that he's. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Doing good work for he's trying to help as a 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: senator or whatever. He's presented them to the public as 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: actual human beings. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: Correct. 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: And John Oliver, who on his late week tonight he 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: hosts a talk show, he was talking about these fictional 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: characters Joe and Eileen Bailey, But. 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: I actually want to talk less about Chuck Schumer himself 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: and more about two of his favorite people, Joe and 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: Eileen Bailey. There are a couple that throughout Schumer's career 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: he has talked about a lot. 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: They're a middle class couple in Massapie, which is a 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: suburb on Long Island. Joe and Eileen Bailey, this middle 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: class couple they brought into Reagan Republicanism in nineteen eighty. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: Joe and Eileen are worried about losing their jobs or 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: their friends' jobs, so that Baileys really don't believe in 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: trickle down. They don't believe in a whole lot of 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 5: government spending, but they believe in tax breaks for kids 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: to go to college. He's an insurance adjuster and lives 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: in the New York suburbs. By New York standards, he 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: makes fifty thousand year. If he lived in the middle 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 5: of the country, make forty. Wife works in a medical office. 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: She makes about twenty. She might make fifteen elsewhere. And 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: you know, I have guided my political life through. 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: The Baileyes, the Baileys have guided Chuck Schumer's political life, 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: which is a little way of given they don't exist, seriously, 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 4: he invented them. Schumer first introduced the world to the 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: Bailies in his two thousand and seven book Positively American, 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: Winning Back the Middle Class Majority, One Family at a Time. 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: In it, he mentions the bailies and astonishing two hundred 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: and sixty five times in two hundred and sixty four pages. 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: But he've been talking about them for years before the 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 4: book was published. One of his former spokespeople said he's 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 4: always asking what would the Baileies think, And to be fair, 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: Schumer acknowledges that some may find this a little weird. 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 5: If you ask my staff, I've been talking about that 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: and talking to the Baileys for fifteen years. 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I have conversations with them. 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: One of my staffers once said, I had imaginary friends 69 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: to the press got me in some trouble. But these 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 5: people are real and I respect them and I really 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 5: love them and I care about them. 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, but they're literally not real. 73 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Job they don't exist. So this is what I'm confused about, 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: because he almost contradicts himself there, Like he appears to 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: acknowledge they're not real, but then he says they are real. 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Is he trying to say, See, this is where the 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: habitual lie. These people invent such doomsday type scenarios that 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: they can't even find people that meet the scenario they've 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: laid on. Why you need government intervention, why you need 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: the government to do this, or that. The scenarios are 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. He can't even find one person that meets 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: the thing, so he meets he makes these imaginary people. 83 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Correct. 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: That's how out of touch he is that he can't 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: even use a real person as an example in his 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: mind or in real life. He's got to fabricate these things. 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: He goes on. 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: He detailed a fictional backstory of them. Joe sings the 89 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: anthem at Islanders games, Aileen runs clothing drives at church, 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: They eat Kung pow chicken, and watch mainstream TV. It 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: just goes on and on and on, and he's been 92 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: doing it for years. 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: So it's almost like he's trying to have his cake 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: and eat it too, where he'll sort of acknowledge they're 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: not real, so that if he gets called on it, 96 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: he'll go, well, these are just people that I made up. 97 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: But he's really trying to do enough where he wants 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: you to believe that they're real, and he knows most 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: media see this is why Biden got away with it 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: for years. Biden lied so much when he had his 101 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: mental faculties. He was a liar then too, because nobody 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: does this sound familiar somebody who lies habitually because they've 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: always gotten away with it and nobody will hold him 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: to account on it. And then once you hold them 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: to account on it, then you become the bad guy. 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: This is why these politicians do this, because they know, 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: first of all the people at the event or meeting 108 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: or whatever they're not gonna know enough for the most part, 109 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: are not gonna want to believe it to hold you account. 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: The local media usually I'm gonna know to hold you 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: account to it, so you just get away with lying. 112 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: They just lie over and over and over. And that's 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: what he's doing here where he'll if he gets truly 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: pressed on it, he no, no, no, if ming knowledge are 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: not real, They're just like people I made up. And 116 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: my staff thinks it's funny. And one time they said, 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I have imagined everything. 118 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: But he cites them in speeches like this. 119 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: My point, because he is, he is trying to present 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: them as real people, these people who run our country. 121 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: And I am talking about at the federal level, I 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: am certainly talking about to the state level. I am 123 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: talking about at the local level. These people are habitual liars. 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: They lie about everything, and then when they get called 125 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: to account, they turn to gaslight mode, like Schumer's doing there. Well, 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I've always said they were always. 127 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: As I talked to imaginary people, you are you do? 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: They make you, They make you out to be the 129 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: bad guy when you catch them and you try to 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: hold him accountable. 131 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: He recently said that the Bailey's probably voted for Trump, 132 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: and they actually probably voted for Trump in five of 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: their last six votes between them. 134 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: The specificity of the I mean that's the thing, right, Like, 135 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: if you had the like you said, the imaginary guy 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: going down the going down the road, you know, you 137 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: get at your head and then you just go on, right, 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: you don't invent a life for him. 139 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, so he's eating kung pow chicken and going to 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: food drives at church. 141 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, use real constituents. 142 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is clear policy positions that would be more beneficial. 143 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: But it's not even all that surprising. I mean, it 144 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. So like we're talking about it because it's ridiculous. 145 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: But if I told you, hey, Chuck Schumer invented imaginary 146 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: people to help him help him better manipulate the voting 147 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: public into doing what he wants, would you been like 148 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: no way. 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: No, I'd say, yeah, that sounds about right right. 150 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: And part of the problem with this is we have 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: so lowered the bar or the standard for acceptability that 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: that story you're just like yeah, probably, And I still 153 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: don't understand. This is what I still struggle so much with, Casey. 154 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Why if someone screws up your order at the local 155 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: taco bell people will sprint to the towny chatterboard and say, 156 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: how I'll just pull a Chuck Schumer. Aaron, a sixteen 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: year old kid working the counter at the taco bell, 158 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: ruined my evening by putting a chalupa in when it 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a burrito. But yet your government 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: uses you, abuses you, lies to you, manipulate you, and 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: you can't even be bothered to go vote these bums out. 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So you've got Donald Trump and Putin who are 163 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: going to be meeting. 164 00:07:59,120 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: We know when. 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: So it's supposed to happen Friday in Alaska for such 166 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: meeting in four years, Putin's first US visits since twenty fifteen. 167 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: Ukraine not participating, And you like, what do we think? 168 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I don't. And I'm not saying like 169 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm saying I genuinely don't understand how you 170 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: can cut a deal without Zelensky at least involved in 171 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: the process. I'm not even saying he has to sign 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: off on it. But you, how do you how do 173 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: you cut a deal involving them without at least their 174 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: perception in their own minds of some sort of involvement 175 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: or co operates. And I don't understand this at all. 176 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: They're not releasing the location of the meeting, the exact 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: summit location in Alaska that remains undisclosed. And legedly Putin 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: has been consulting with China and India and Brazil. But 179 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: it does make you wonder is Ukraine the top priority 180 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: or the only thing they will be discussing. Imagine that 181 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: you've got Trump, president of the United States, Putin leader 182 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: of Russia. 183 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Well, and I know this is an unpopular opinion, especially 184 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: in this country, but I can give you thirty reasons 185 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: we should be friends with Russia. I can give you 186 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: about zero reason we should be friends with Ukraine other 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: than being not friends with Russia. I mean, like, I'm sorry, 188 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: if you lay out, if you take the names of 189 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: the countries out of the equation and you just lay 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: out the vested interest of cooperation and getting along with them. 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Russia wins every single day, every single time. They win 192 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: from national security, they win economically, they win energy. I 193 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: mean all of these things. We should have no interest 194 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: in being against Russia on this particular thing other than 195 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: we just don't like Russia, right, We just Russia is 196 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: never not going to end up with land. This is 197 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: what I mean. They're just never. They're never not going 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: to end up with land. Putin's not going to let 199 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: it stop. And unless he dies, which it sounds like 200 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: despite the rumors of him being in poor health not 201 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: that long ago, he must be doing very fine. Now 202 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: it's going to end this way. And I'm sick of 203 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: my money going to Ukraine. I'm sick of resources going 204 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. I'm sick of not having cooperation on the 205 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: aforementioned national security, energy, et cetera with the Russians, which 206 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: is a vested interest for us, Like our relationship with 207 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: Russia should be, Like it's like a neighbor you don't 208 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: like right like, or you don't necessarily care for. You 209 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: don't have to hang out into barbecues, you don't have 210 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to sit in each other's living room, but you have 211 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: a vested interest in what making sure the weeds are maintained, 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: the grass is cut if you see a prowler out 213 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: and about the neighborhood, that everybody's going to watch out 214 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: for each other. Like that's the relationship we should have 215 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: with Russia, which is we communicate rarely. Everybody knows the 216 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: rules of engagement. Though we share mutually mutual interests that 217 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: we're going to cooperate on, and then everybody else can 218 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: just hide behind the privacy fence on everything else. That's 219 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: what the relationship would be with Russia, and we don't 220 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: have that right now because of Ukraine. 221 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: Natos mark Rus said that he believes Trump is just 222 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: testing Putin's seriousness and if it's genuine, the. 223 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: Next steps will then involve Ukraine and Europe. 224 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. When we come back 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: a duel, we'll be with us. He has a big 226 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: old update on the AI Porngate allegations. He'll tell us 227 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: about that. 228 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Next it's Kendeln Casey on ninety three WIBC. 229 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: See the form. So we've got a big update on 230 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: ai horn Gate's Kennel and Casey show, and Rob Casey's here. 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: Look who it is. He's an author, he's a broadcaster, 232 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: he's a provocateur. Dulaqum Chabaz. Hello, good morning, my friend. 233 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: How's it going. I'm doing all right? So yesterday we 234 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: do much. 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: Better than the broad administration. Right, well, I'll tell you that. So, yeah, 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 6: he had it back with the administration. 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: He was on with Hammer and Nigel yesterday. He did 238 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: not seem like a guy that was very thrilled with 239 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: the things that are being thrown at him. But hey, 240 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: everyonde wants the job until they have to do the job. 241 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: But so yesterday Hammer and I got into this that 242 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the chief of staff, Micah beckit's chief of staff her husband. 243 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: So Micah beck was chief of staff, her husband appeared to. 244 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 6: Would he be the chief of staff in law? 245 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: He appeared to on social media allude to there being 246 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: a grand jury investigation. I posted the screenshot of it up. 247 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: He's tried to backpedal out of this. I mean, he's 248 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: words solid in himself, but he appeared to say, unprompted, 249 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: that there was a grand jury investigation going on into 250 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: something with Micah Beckwit's office. And you now are here 251 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: to say that you have your sources have confirmed that 252 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: confirmed that even before he made it public. Well yeah, 253 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean he look him stooging himself or the on 254 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: the office or whatever. That's a whole different thing. But 255 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: let's deal with the guy who's on the ground getting 256 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: the facts, is going to come on this radio show, 257 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: which he is not going to. You can say that 258 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: you are confirming. 259 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 7: That, yes, there is a grand jury investigation, and not 260 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 7: just on the AI porn stuff, because usually the way 261 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 7: these investigations start is not necessarily how they finish, because 262 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 7: when you find one thing, there's another one, and another 263 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 7: one another one. And I know for a fact that 264 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 7: one of the things the grand jury is reported looking 265 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 7: at is possible ghost employment and falsified time cards, for example, 266 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 7: people saying that they're saying they weren't work they're supposed 267 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 7: to have signed in maybe not have signed in out 268 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 7: doing other political type things or whatever whatever that is. 269 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 7: But I do know for a fact that a grand 270 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 7: jury is looking at a state grand jury is looking 271 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 7: at those possible things, and the federal government, the FBI 272 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 7: is also looking at some stuff too, because we've got, 273 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 7: you know, images, and they've got the federal the federal 274 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: law that's involved and also the state law that's involved 275 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 7: on creezy fake m images of a sexual nature to 276 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 7: go after somebody. 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is interesting because one of the things 278 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: I keep seeing on social media is people go, well, 279 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: where's the video, where's the proof? And my question on 280 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: this is, and now obviously you're operating off saying there 281 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: is indeed a grand jury. Your sources have told you this. 282 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: But I was operating off the guy yesterday mentioning grand jury, 283 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: and I said, have you ever seen a prosecutor ever? 284 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Because we know the prosecutor's office is investigating at some point, 285 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, in some capacity. We knew that Craig Haggard, 286 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: whose wife is at the center of this alleged sharing 287 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: of AI pornography, had talked to the Marrion Kenny prosecutor's office. 288 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: But I said, whether it's a prosecutor's office grand jury, 289 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: have you ever seen them run out and go here's 290 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: all our evidence. Now we'll go to our bunker and deliberate, 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: like can you like you're an attorney. 292 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 7: That's not how the system works. No, no, it is 293 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 7: not how the system works. And number one, because my 294 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 7: thing is this, if everything, if you did this investigation, 295 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 7: which the beck with folks playing, they did this investigation, 296 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 7: there was no wrong doing? Okay, well where's it? Where's it? 297 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 7: Where's at the very least, where is the final investigative report? 298 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Right? 299 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 6: Who conducted the investigation? Who do they talk to? 300 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Uh? 301 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 7: Because because to do all this over a weekend, it's like, yeah, 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 7: we're going up to Michigan to go to the beach 303 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: and oh yeah, we're gonna do an investigation two on 304 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 7: an AI porn and we'll have it all back for 305 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 7: a Monday nine o'clock. Like, no, investigations don't work that way. 306 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's here, let's go. Let's get into that for 307 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: a second. Because this is the thing people are like 308 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: Rob spinning, he's manipulating. No, I want to know one thing. 309 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: I want to see that investigation because it is like 310 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: common sense would tell you, these guys that are accused 311 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: of this, not only were they workers, one was an employee, 312 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: one was an attorney for hire in the in the office. 313 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: They're not only people that are you know, working there 314 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: in the office. There are some of Micah's biggest supporters 315 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: and best friends. If you had definitively I. 316 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 6: Believe, I believe the term is enablers. 317 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not getting into that. That'll all come out whatever. 318 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 319 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: I don't know about any of that. 320 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: What I do know is that if you add proof 321 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: that these guys who you're uber close to, that you 322 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: had state police come in, we know it wasn't Mary Kenny, 323 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Prosecutor's officer IMBD that came in or forensics rs or 324 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: whoever he had come in and they found definitive evidence 325 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: in one day. By the way, that ain't how forensics 326 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: investigations work. They don't find stuff in one day. But 327 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: even if they did, and you could not only clear 328 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: these guys, but set these guys up to sue Tom Labianco, 329 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: the journalist who broke the story, for everything he's got, 330 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know Micah would love that fight. Why would 331 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: what are we on day twelve or thirteen? Now? Why 332 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: would you let your guys twist in the wind like that? 333 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. If that's the case, if he 334 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: has that prooven, he's sitting on it. He's not only 335 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: a crappy boss, he's a crappy friend. And those guys 336 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't stand for Those guys should be coming out and 337 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: demanding that he released all the information. 338 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 7: But once again, when you're when you're part of enablers 339 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 7: r us this this is what you get. And another 340 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 7: thing and the other thing too is what I don't 341 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 7: fully believe that that that Micah fully appreciates just yet 342 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 7: is this could be the I'm trying to find the 343 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 7: right word. This could be this could be the political 344 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 7: kill shot because so many people have been like, we 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 7: can't stand Michael beck With, can't stand his people, but 346 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 7: legally there's nothing we can do to get him out 347 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 7: of office. He's stuck that he's staying there. This could 348 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 7: change everything. Abdul is our guest. You can find him 349 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 7: over at indiepolitics dot org. 350 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Real quick. I did want to touch on redistricting. We 351 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: got into this with Jim Merritt earlier. This This seems 352 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: like we talked about this on State House happenings. This 353 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: seems like Bray and Houston. You saw the looks on 354 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: their faces they were leaving that meeting last week with 355 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: the Vice president and the governor. I don't think they 356 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: want any part of this because the Pandora's box, the 357 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: potentially opening versus whatever quote unquote reward they would get 358 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: this idea of a special session on redistricting. These guys 359 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: are hoping more dudes like Jim Lucas and Danny Lopez 360 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: and Tom's and whoever the other ones are that have 361 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: come out because I think they just are like, we 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with this. What's you know 363 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: behind this scene stuff? What's say you well, let's put 364 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: it this way. I sent a text message to a 365 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: very prominent statewide state elected official recently, so you guys 366 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: are really going to do this and they did not respond, 367 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: which tells me everything that I need to know. When 368 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: I do, when I don't get it, and when I 369 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: don't get an usually i'll get an answered like an 370 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: hour or maybe like a day or two. When I 371 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: don't get an answered period, that tells me everything that 372 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I need to know. And when I go through official channels, Abdul, 373 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: we were in the meeting, really can't talk about it. 374 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: That tells me once again everything that we need to know. 375 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be able to strong arm no enough 376 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: for Republicans into going along with them? No, you don't 377 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: think so. No, do you think this that Braun Will 378 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: Braun can't call special He's gonna have to do a 379 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: vote count before he decides to do this. 380 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 7: He can call a special session, and Jim, I'm sure 381 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 7: Jim mentioned earlier today, you can call a special session. 382 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 7: But once once you're in, they can do whatever they want. 383 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: You can't just call a special session for redistricting or 384 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 7: abortion anything can sure doing a special session? Right, So, 385 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 7: but that's why, by the way, A special session will 386 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 7: probably cost about three hundred thousand dollars and been a 387 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 7: place where you can't get your property text relea, Yes, 388 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 7: So we'll spend three hundred thousand dollars to do something 389 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 7: that's probably gonna get thrown out anyway. But the bigger 390 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 7: issue you talk to the state Hofs Happens's going to 391 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 7: be a minute left here is right now. If you're 392 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 7: a Republican in Indiana, now, some people are having trouble 393 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 7: with this, but you just got to be scandal free 394 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 7: and show up and you're going to largely keep winning. 395 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: They're going to keep the supermajorities, blah blah, the state 396 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 7: wide offices, blah blah blah. 397 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: You are potentially pissing off so many people otherwise don't care, 398 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: won't vote, won't be motivated. You're if you try to, 399 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: especially the seventh district with ANDROI Carson, if you get 400 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: cute with that, you are creating potential havoc for yourself. 401 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: Not saying it's going to be, but it could be. 402 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: And Brayton, who said they don't want any part of 403 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: that headache, look look like this. It is the absolute 404 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: perfect storm. You have the propertext. People who are already 405 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: mad at Governor Braun. You've got the Micah Beck with 406 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: people who are already mad at Governor Braun. You got 407 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: the progressives who already mad at Governor Braun. You got 408 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: the established classes like, oh God, really seriously, then they're 409 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: not quite mad yet, but you're basically doing everything possible 410 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: to bring Democrats back into power in twenty twenty six 411 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty eight. All right, find him over at 412 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: Indie Politics dot org. Abdul Keim Shabaz, thank you. 413 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 7: And by the way, Republicans Los, I don't necessarily think 414 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 7: that would be a bad thing. 415 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I agree with you. I think the best thing 416 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: for this state would be if Bobai runs for Secretary 417 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: of State next year and beats Diego Moreles. But that's 418 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: a conversation for another day. Kill a Casey show ninety 419 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: three WIBC. Can we talk about Bernie Sanders for just 420 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: a quick thing? 421 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 6: Is he doing well? 422 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: There was something on TV? Yeah, we got the Fox 423 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: News on here in the studio and you know some 424 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the topic was, but you 425 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: know they're doing b roll of people and there's Bernie 426 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: Sanders and he's like he can't stand up straight. He's bald, 427 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: he's got the hair that he has inside of his 428 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: head's going all sorts of different directions. He's wagging a 429 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: finger like if you're like. 430 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: Crazy Albert Einstein, look to him. 431 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: If you saw that man in an aisleway at your 432 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: local supermarket, you would say, sir, can I help reach 433 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: something for you? And yet this guy is like the 434 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: most popular guy in the Democrat Party and you know, 435 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: in what that poll we just read the other day, 436 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: he's one of the top people. And it's like, who 437 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: looks at the whole Bernie's I mean, he's a colossal fraudster. 438 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: He owns these homes, the cars, he wants to take 439 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: everything from you who looks at him? Just look at 440 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: just the visual on him, and it was like, that's 441 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: who we need, our country needs. 442 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: To be more like are you looking at him, going, yeah, 443 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: that's my guy that he's exuding confidence. So the tracker 444 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: on the bottom of the screen says poll party support 445 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: among Dens hits all time low. Yeah, so that's probably 446 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: why they had a picture of Bernie Sanders up. That 447 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: could be you would you consider him the leader of 448 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: that party at this point, I don't. 449 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: Know who that is. They don't have one and that 450 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: and that's like you usually get a feel in politics 451 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: like Vance is definitely the guy. I mean, Ron de 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: Santas is going to be one of the great tragic 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: political stories of American history that he went from during 454 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: COVID the most popular Republican in America. Two, he won't 455 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: he won't ever get to be a president, a vice 456 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: president like nothing. I mean the window will he is 457 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: going to become evan by You. 458 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: Don't think he'll get a cabinet position. 459 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: Well, but I'm saying in terms of that, nobody knows 460 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: who's in the cabin I mean we do, right, Yeah, 461 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: But if you stopped if you stopped the average person 462 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: right now, what Rubio secretary of state? Right, if you 463 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: stop the average person on the street and said, who's 464 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: the secretary of state? What percentage of the populace could 465 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: tell you who the secretary of state is? And that's 466 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: the tippy top one. 467 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: Right, I think more people probably could have won. 468 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: It was Hillary Clinton, sure, but she's a celebrity, right, 469 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: She's an uber high profile person. What do you think 470 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty percent if you win a monumous circle right now 471 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: and just throw the homeless people out of the equation, 472 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: like people that are actually down here working, contributing to society. 473 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: If you stopped them on the street and said, who's 474 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: the national Secretary of State? 475 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it would be very low, especially after 476 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: I've seen some videos of a guy doing man on 477 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: the street questions, and these are the simplest questions, like 478 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: what country is Mount Rushmore in? 479 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: And people can't figure it out. 480 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of really stupid people 481 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: out there. So my point is Vance is gonna be 482 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the guy for the just put it on the just 483 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: put it up. It's Vance, right, He's gonna be the dude. 484 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe Rubio's got a puncher's chance, but 485 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: they'll probably team up versus go against each other. 486 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: I would think so. 487 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: But the Democrats, there's no obvious person, and usually when 488 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: there's not a so think about the last sets of presidents, right, Okay, Bush, 489 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Bush, because Clinton was not the 490 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: obvious guy. Clinton's the last one I can think of. 491 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Because Bush Bush was obvious. He you know, his dad 492 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: had been the president. It was him and McCain. Okay, 493 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: one of these two guys will win. But he sort 494 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: of seemed like from the beginning kind of the guy. 495 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: Even though McCain was a pretty good competitor, Obama was 496 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: definitely the guy. So Ever, he gave the speech at 497 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: the DNC and people were like, Oh my gosh, can 498 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: we just get this all over with. We know Cary's 499 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: gonna lose, Just get us to twenty two thousand and eight. 500 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: Let this guy be the guy. Trump to me seemed 501 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: like the guy from the moment he came down the escalator. 502 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: He wasn't the guy three years out, but the like 503 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: the moment I saw him, and I was one of 504 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: the few people that thought, there, but oh, he'll flame it. 505 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, this guy's and this guy's 506 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: not flaming out. And but normally you can see in 507 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: the distance right like you can see who it's who 508 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I don't see with the Democrats, 509 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: but you know, even even go pre Clinton. 510 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the one the people that right 511 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: now that you you look to, it's like the leader 512 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: of the party, Gavin Newsom, Pete Boudha, Judge, Bernie Sanders, AOC. 513 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: Now there's the one guy from Maryland who a lot 514 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: of people what you just call him. Yeah, I don't 515 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 3: know his name. 516 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at it exactly what wes Moore 517 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Wes Moore. Yeah, but I'm not blaming you, like nobody 518 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: nobody knows who Wes Moore is. Now, it doesn't mean 519 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: they might not overtime, but there's no My point is 520 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: there's no apparatus getting behind some person. Go okay, we 521 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: need to let people start knowing about this guy. This 522 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: is the person. And usually when one side is sort 523 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: of consolidated, in this case for the Republicans, it's not 524 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: really a guy but an idea, which is trump Ism 525 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: or Trumpantism or magar whatever you want to call it, 526 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: advance is the guy the next logical, you know, standard 527 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: bearer of that that party tends to win, Like the 528 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: Republicans in O eight had no consensus. Is it Romney, 529 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: is it McCain? Is you know? Is it Juliani? Right? 530 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: And and the Democrats sort are the one exception of 531 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: that with Hillary losing. Hillary did it twice, but at 532 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: least she got the nomination in sixteen. So I just 533 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: I saw that thing of Bernie Sanders, and it's just 534 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: like who sees that visual? Just take away what you 535 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: what you even know about the guy that he's such 536 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: a colossal huckster that you just you don't just I 537 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: just I can't fathom who the people are who are like, yeah, 538 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: sign me up for that. 539 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Speaking of jd Vance, he was calling on Elon Musk 540 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: to come back into the fold. 541 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 8: He's obviously gott a complicated relationship right now with the 542 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 8: with the Trump White House. Though, my argument to Elon 543 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 8: is like, you're not going to be on the lefts 544 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 8: right even if you wanted to be, and he doesn't, 545 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 8: they're not going to have you back that that that 546 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 8: ship is sailed, and so I really think it's a 547 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 8: mistake for him to try to break from the president. 548 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 8: So my hope is that by the time of the 549 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 8: midterms he's kind of come back in the bowl. But yeah, 550 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 8: I don't know that he would take my call right 551 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 8: now about anything. 552 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: Really, Boy, he doesn't that sound familiar. Hey, we screwed you, 553 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: we lied to you, we made you look like an idiot. 554 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: In this case, Elon Musk, we took a bunch of 555 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: your money. But hey, what other choice do you have. 556 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: You got to come back to us, because you're not 557 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna go. That is so offensive that 558 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: he said that. 559 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, he's trying to downplay the America Party, Elon's America 560 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: Party and saying, you know you're not going to go 561 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: over there, so just come back to us. 562 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: And of course jd. Vance is looking at his big wallet. 563 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: No acknowledgment of what these people again, Boy does this 564 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: sound familiar? No acknowledgement of what these people did, how 565 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: they lied, how they didn't follow through on their promises. 566 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: And they always turn the person who says you didn't 567 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: do what you promised to do in the bad guy. 568 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: You notice how that always happens. The person who is consistent, 569 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: in this case, Elon Musk, who said, I will support 570 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: you because you're pledging to do the following things. Okay, 571 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: you didn't do the following things. I'm done with you, 572 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do everything in my power to hold 573 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: you accountable for not doing what you said. They turn 574 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: him into the bad guy. The people who follow through, 575 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: the people who are consistent in what they want, what 576 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: they want the country to be. And then the politicians, 577 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: the narcissistic, self absorbed we're more important than everybody else. 578 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Politicians always try to act like it's just professional gaslighting. Oh, 579 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to come back to us, because what 580 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: choice does. 581 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: You got nowhere else to go? 582 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got nothing else. He does have somewhere to go, 583 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: and that's whatever he wants to do because he's worth 584 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and however many billion dollars, buddy, he can 585 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants to do. 586 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Jadie Vanson the same interview, he was telling a story 587 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: how he did not get an invite from Kamala Harris 588 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: to go tour the vice president's house before they got inaugurated. 589 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 8: No, I had never seen it before, and it was 590 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 8: there was a bit of a controversy. I don't remember 591 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 8: exactly what had happened, but I think that normally it's 592 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 8: customary for the outgoing vice president to show the incoming 593 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 8: vice president's family the house. And we have three little kids, 594 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 8: so I guess at the time, our kids were like seven, 595 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 8: five and you know two. I guess Mirabel turned three 596 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: right before the inauguration, and so now they're a little 597 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 8: bit older. But you know, they had never seen this 598 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 8: house and USHA really wanted to show them. So what 599 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 8: we actually proposed is recognizing the weirdness of the politics 600 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 8: can usher take the kids over and just show them 601 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 8: where they're going to be living for the next four years, 602 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 8: and they were rebuffed. 603 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: So we took some like. 604 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 8: Old diagrams and some old photos and tried to show 605 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 8: the kids. Actually, a friend of ours in Cincinnati had 606 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 8: a book about the Vice President's residence, and so we 607 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 8: would show the kids what it would look like. But 608 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 8: that's as close as they ever got to it. 609 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: But it's a really beautiful house. 610 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 8: So President Trump always jokes with me that I actually 611 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 8: have the nicest house, because the White House is a 612 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 8: bit of fish bowl, as you know very well. The 613 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 8: VPR is this beautiful sort of one hundred and fifty 614 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 8: year old mansion, but it's got thirty acres of private property, 615 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 8: private space. 616 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 6: So Excheculy feels. 617 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 8: Like a real family home for us, which is really nice. 618 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: What a scummy person. Kamala Harris is. 619 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: Right, he's got little kids, they're moving to a new place. 620 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: There's adjustment there. Now you don't get to come see lady. 621 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: You lost, and you lost with every advantage imaginable, like 622 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: you had the media. Yeah, like I mean you had 623 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: every union. I mean like you lost because you are 624 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: an insufferable sea hag and the public couldn't stand to 625 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: be she lost the same. There is no reason Donald 626 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Trump should ever have been the president, well the first 627 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: time or the second time. Both times he and this 628 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: is one thing Trump either he doesn't know or he 629 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: just won't allow himself to accept. So many people voted 630 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: for Trump both times because the alternative was simply unacceptable. 631 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: And I just like, that is so rotten to do that. 632 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, Are you. 633 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: Surprised, No, not at all. I mean that seems like 634 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: a very vindictive sort of thing. 635 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's these people are miserable. They're all about power, 636 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: They're all about themselves. They could care less about being decent, 637 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: polite human beings. Like how many times in this industry 638 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: we paid it forward with other people, letting them come in, 639 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: letting them watch us, letting opening up our studio to that. 640 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure done this over the years, many 641 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: many places that you've been. It's just what you do 642 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: because somebody did it for you, right, somebody, I'm sure 643 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: Mike Pence gave Kamala Harris a tour of the of 644 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the place, let her see the thing, letting her have 645 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: whatever she wanted, they're just what a rotten nasty woman. 646 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: Nasty woman it is Kendall and Casey. 647 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: It's ninety three WIBC. 648 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Course back, Why are you so angry that young people 649 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: don't answer the phone? 650 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: Nobody said I was angry about it. 651 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh, you came in even before the segment. You were 652 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: just livid about this. You saw some piece of data 653 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: that young people don't answer the phone. 654 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that's got me worked up today, Rob, 655 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: that's it. These dark teenagers aren't answering their phone. 656 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on? What's happening. 657 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a new report. 658 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: That just says that teenagers no longer answer the phone. 659 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: And is this a lack of manners or is it 660 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: a new trend? And the study says it's a way 661 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 2: that they may control over their time, their emotions, and 662 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: their social interactions. 663 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 3: They're like, you know, it's the old joke, why are 664 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: you calling me? Text me? 665 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? How many calls do the young people actually get? 666 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's a lot, because they're texting each other, right, yeah, 667 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: but when mom or dad calls, they better pick up right. 668 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: You know. 669 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting I think about this. We talked about this 670 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: in the sense of like watching stuff on the on 671 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: demand now nothing special anymore because you can access it 672 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: whenever you want. So, like, here's a great example, this 673 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: is what a rotten son I am. There was some wrestling, 674 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: old timey wrestling thing that I have my dad tape, 675 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: and I was all fired up about it, and every 676 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: time I start to go over there to watch it, 677 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll just get it tomorrow, you know, like 678 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: it's there, it's on the thing, the recorder or whatever. 679 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: And yesterday he's like, I'm going to delete this in 680 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: one week if you don't come over here and watch 681 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: this sick of it being on my thing. I was like, okay, well, 682 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: now I got to go over there and do it. 683 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: But there's nothing when you have access to things at 684 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: all times, the special nature of it, right, it sort 685 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: of goes well. 686 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: That's just like binge watching TV. 687 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: You can get through a whole series now in a weekend, 688 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: whereas before you had to wait it out and it 689 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: was like Christmas, right, the anticipation, Oh my gosh, this cliffhanger, what's. 690 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: Gonna happen next? And now you. 691 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: Can just plow through a show and it doesn't make 692 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: the next show as exciting and you don't have to 693 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: think about it all night or all week. 694 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's the same thing with like phones. Now, 695 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: it used to be your conversation with someone or your 696 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: interaction with them was special because you didn't know you 697 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: when you were gonna get it again, Like if you 698 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: called somebody that was a special thing because there was 699 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: no Facebook, you didn't see them. It's sort of why, 700 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: like people moving away isn't as big a deal anymore. 701 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: Remember like if you had family and they moved across 702 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: the country, you were devastated, right because you would only 703 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: see them a couple times a year at best, or 704 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: you would have to talk them on the phone. Now 705 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: you can FaceTime, you can Facebook, you can whatever. Like, 706 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: it's not it's not that it's not that big a deal, 707 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: and it dilutes the importance of in person communication with 708 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: people because you have access to it at any at 709 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: any given time. 710 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: Well, this article is saying that not picking up when 711 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: someone calls is a new form of digital etiquette. It 712 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: signals boundaries and respect rather than rejection or disinterest. This 713 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: is their silent form of communication, not talking talking, Lottie, Yes, 714 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: it's it's they. 715 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: Don't want to deal with the pressure. 716 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: They're just being polite and not picking up rather than 717 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 2: telling you, hey, I don't want to talk right now. 718 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think they know 719 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: how to talk anymore. I think that's part of the 720 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem. And we've talked 721 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: about this, like with Kevin, I don't think people know 722 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: how to interact in person anymore. Whereas someone like me 723 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: craved in person interaction. I'm far more impressive in person 724 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: than I am on the internet. 725 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: Right. 726 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: I think the modern people, the modern young people, I mean, 727 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they think they want anything to do 728 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: with the in person interaction. 729 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: When I was growing up, we always the kids always 730 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: went in and out of the side door, and you know, 731 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: it had the uh it had the screen door on it, 732 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: and you could always tell when someone was running in 733 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: and out of the house because it would slam shut. 734 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: But whenever any of the friends from the neighborhood would 735 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: come over, they'd go to the side door, and my 736 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: mom always knew it was a kid, it wasn't a 737 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: delivery man, it wasn't somebody for my parents, because they 738 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: would go to the front door yeah, Now doesn't matter 739 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: what door anybody goes to. You hear a knock on 740 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: the door, and people freak out. 741 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 3: Like who's here? 742 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: What's going on? 743 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 3: Hide, like I don't want to talk to anybody. 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I also think about like I lived 745 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: right next to the high school as a kid, So 746 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: when I got the to where I was in high 747 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: school during summer school, like I would just literally go sit. 748 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: That's saying I'd figure out when the more well assembled 749 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: girls had their summer school classes. But because it was 750 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: a small school, there was generally one or two ways 751 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: in or out, and so you like you could just 752 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: sit there and it was like like some great military 753 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: genius had designed this for me, where they were like 754 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: funneling all of the girls through this one way to 755 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: get out, and if you just sat there, it was 756 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: just one hot chick after another who you would have 757 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: some sort of interaction with. They weren't calling nine one 758 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: one right, And so the law of averages says, one 759 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: of them is going to be silly enough to think 760 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're ce, you got your act together 761 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: or whatever, and so but it's like people don't, you know, 762 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: people don't crave the ideas. So that would be so 763 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: weird now because well I text them or I see 764 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: them on the Facebook or the Instagram or whatever, like, 765 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: there is no creative socializing anymore, and people just don't 766 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: they don't need it, like they don't want it. And 767 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: that is so bizarre to me that that that is 768 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: a bygone and it's never coming back. 769 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had way too much time on your hands 770 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: as a young person. 771 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, I freely admit, you know, my general everything I 772 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: did from the ages of about fourteen through well thirty six. 773 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: Well about how long have I been married? 774 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 3: As you're doing the math in your. 775 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: Head, centered, I mean, but you just don't, you know, 776 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: people don't. It's a different I do. Like I think 777 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: about my daughter and it's like, what will it be like, oh, yeah, 778 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: you know, ten twelve years when she starts socializing with 779 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: people like, well, you never know. 780 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: When your daughter's a teenager. She may not have to 781 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: go get her license to drive a car. She may 782 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: have to get the operator's manual on how to run 783 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: the Optimist robot to drive her roundly. 784 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: Casey, she lives close enough to all the places she 785 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: can walk, that's true. 786 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: And she can go see who what boys are going 787 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: in and out of the school. 788 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Sure I can see it now, aren't you. Rob Kendall's kid. 789 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Who No, I get that all the time. 790 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you think she's going to deny you. 791 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: All right, you are out tomorrow, you're out Thursday, Friday, 792 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: and then you'll be back with us next Wednesday if 793 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: you're lucky. All right, well you behavior self. 794 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: You too, and that's going to do it for us today. 795 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening. 796 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: This is being Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC.