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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today ask can you shall receive arrests

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Speaker 2: in the church invasion case? Tony Katz, Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good.

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Speaker 1: To be with you.

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Speaker 2: Ed Morrissey with the breaking news. You know him from

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Speaker 2: hotair dot com. The story is very clear, Don Lemon,

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Speaker 2: the former CNN host, entering a church with a group

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Speaker 2: of people. They knew what they were there to do,

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Speaker 2: disrupt the church services, intimidate those people, screaming about ice

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Speaker 2: and why don't you care about Somali's and why don't

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Speaker 2: you care about your Latino's brothers and sisters, and claiming

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Speaker 2: that you're not real Christians. This was about intimidation and

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Speaker 2: disruption because as I see it, this is what the

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Speaker 2: Marxist does. But will leave that to the side. The

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Speaker 2: question is was this a violation of the Face Act

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Speaker 2: or the Ku Klux Klan Act with Don Lemon as

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Speaker 2: somebody who was responsible for this, or is he just

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Speaker 2: simply a journalist covering the story.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy to that at all.

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Speaker 2: You then Ed break the story that the FBI has

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Speaker 2: now engaged arrests of these church raid leaders in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Talk me through it, walk me through what happened here.

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Speaker 3: Well, what I assume happened is that they went to

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Speaker 3: a grand jury. They took these cases to a grand jury,

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Speaker 3: got an indictment. That's what I'm assuming is happening. You know,

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Speaker 3: the FBI can arrest people without a grand jury indictment,

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Speaker 3: but the fact that it took a few days for

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Speaker 3: them to do so, even while these people are going

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Speaker 3: on television and talking about how they violated the law.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a CNN clip that I've gotten the

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Speaker 3: post there from last night or from yesterday, not last night,

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Speaker 3: but yesterday in which Armstrong, one of the two leaders

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Speaker 3: that were arrested today so far that we know so

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Speaker 3: far have been arrested, is on tape talking about this

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Speaker 3: and saying, oh, no, we didn't invade, we didn't interrupt services.

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Speaker 3: And Aaron Burnett of CNN says, well, I won't dispute that,

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Speaker 3: even though they're putting out video that shows exactly that's

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Speaker 3: what they did. Now, these people have basically published the

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Speaker 3: evidence for their own crimes, and the FBI has this,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure that the Department of Justice went to

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Speaker 3: a grand jury to get an indictment to arrest these

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Speaker 3: people so that they're solid on solid ground. Because you remember,

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Speaker 3: Tony that there are a number of people saying, why

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Speaker 3: aren't there any arrests? Where's the FBI? Why haven't they

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Speaker 3: arrested these people for doing this? It's on video.

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Speaker 1: I was one of those people, and.

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Speaker 3: Our friend Kurt Schlichter, good friend of both of ours,

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Speaker 3: was saying, you guys need to realize, this is not

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Speaker 3: a law and order episode. There's a process for this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that they've started the process for this. Well,

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Speaker 3: here we are four days later, which is pretty fast

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Speaker 3: when it comes to a federal case. They've got the

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Speaker 3: two leaders under arrest. Haven't heard anything about Lemon yet.

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Speaker 3: We don't know about Don Lemon yet. Well, let me

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Speaker 3: let me stop you right, it's very possible he's going

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Speaker 3: to be arrested as well, because he's on tape talking

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Speaker 3: about how he helped coordinate this.

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Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there.

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Speaker 2: Hold on one second, ed talking to Edmarci off hootair

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Speaker 2: dot com, and I would say it's Kirch Schlector, a

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Speaker 2: trial lawyer, the retired colonel that trusting this administration to

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Speaker 2: engage a prosecution is not the business that I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying where that

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Speaker 2: bloody hell are the arrests?

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Speaker 1: Where are the charges?

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Speaker 2: And saying well, you got to be patient and wait

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Speaker 2: is an unacceptable answer from an administration that has not

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Speaker 2: brought about, in my view, enough of these things. In

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Speaker 2: cases where it is clear you talk about the video evidence,

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Speaker 2: there's also the written evidence where these leaders one is

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Speaker 2: named Nakima Levy Armstrong and then there's Chanteu Luisa Allen.

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Speaker 2: These were the people that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General named.

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Speaker 2: They quite literally thanked all these different people on Facebook

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Speaker 2: and other places for being a part of what happened here.

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Speaker 2: And as they want to describe it, well, we were

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Speaker 2: just in the church going to services. Then we asked

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Speaker 2: and that's when we started saying, why aren't you helping

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Speaker 2: these people? And it went from there. They're claiming they

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Speaker 2: did nothing wrong. I argue the video evidence says absolutely

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Speaker 1: So there's two things here.

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Speaker 3: There's probable cause and there's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Speaker 3: You need probable cause for the indictment in the arrest

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Speaker 3: believes them that this was you know, that they didn't

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Speaker 3: do anything wrong. That's going to be up to a jury.

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Speaker 3: Jury might decide, yeah, they didn't do anything wrong. Jury

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Speaker 3: sometimes do that. You get nullification in some cases, which again,

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Speaker 3: for some other venue. They may change venues on this

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Speaker 3: based on all of that else that's going on round there.

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Speaker 3: I would hope so, actually, but it's not easy to

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Speaker 3: do either. So it's one thing. It's it's something that

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to probably fight on. But but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the idea here is you get them in,

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Speaker 3: can make those arguments. But that's not an argument against

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Speaker 3: the rest. That's not an argument against indictment. That's an

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Speaker 3: trying to avoid prison time. And bear in mind that

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Speaker 3: this is a lot less To me, this is a

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Speaker 3: lot worse violation than the Face Act prosecutions that were

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Speaker 3: conducted under Merrit Garland in the Joe Biden regency, as

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Speaker 3: I like to call it. I mean, they arrested Mark

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Speaker 3: and then put him through a trial this stretched on

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Speaker 3: see as a Face Act violation. So this is again,

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Speaker 3: this is the process and that wasn't even into abortion clinic,

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Speaker 3: that was outside of an abortion clinic. And the Face Act,

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Speaker 3: little less clear, but apparently it also crosses those lines.

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Speaker 3: There's also conspiracy, which means that you had people conspiring

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Speaker 3: the conspiracy part is worse than the act itself, and

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Speaker 3: that's where you'll start to see other people being brought

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Speaker 3: though as far as I know, he hasn't been arrested.

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Speaker 2: You talk about conspirators, wait until you find out someone

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Speaker 2: talk to somebody else in another state and we start

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Speaker 2: talking about rico, because this is a whole gambit going

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Marscy off hodair dot Com, I want

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Speaker 2: to be clear that I am not coming to you

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Speaker 2: from a legal angle. I appreciate that you are engaging

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Speaker 2: the reporting here. I am not asking what the result

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Speaker 2: know where the prosecutions are. That was how I started

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Speaker 2: the result of a case as well how a case

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Speaker 2: and I think that's the entirety of the point here.

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Speaker 2: But to your your argument of conspiracy and some of

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Speaker 2: these other things, the Face Act and the KKK Act,

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Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about the Face Act.

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Speaker 1: And how this comes to be.

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Speaker 2: It's nineteen ninety four, signed into law by William Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Hey did I get that on your dress? Clinton? And

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Speaker 1: his what? I'm I'm sorry? I thought that was his name.

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Speaker 2: It was right there. I was on the que card.

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Speaker 2: I apologize, slick, will you? Well, now you're just being

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Speaker 2: gross me. This was about, obstensibly abortion clinics, and I

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Speaker 2: want you to dig into Merrick Garland what he did

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Speaker 2: the amount Christians were absolutely targeted and abused for utilizing

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Speaker 2: their First Amendment rights. But the Face Act does protect

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Speaker 2: churches and does protect parishioners. Walk me through it and

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Speaker 2: then get into what happened with Merrick Garland, the former

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Speaker 3: Well, the Face Act was promoted because there had been

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Speaker 3: in the eighties some violent attacks on abortion clinics, right,

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Speaker 3: and they wanted to escalate this into federal crimes. At

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Speaker 3: the same time, though, they also there was also violence

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Speaker 3: that especially applies to places of worship. So there is

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Speaker 3: apply to both. And what it means is that you

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Speaker 3: can't go into these places to interrupt, you know, either

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Speaker 3: abortion operations or religious services, regardless of whatever your demonstration is. Now,

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Speaker 3: just to make this clear, had Armstrong and Allen and

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Speaker 3: Lemon just stayed on the sidewalk, held signs, march back

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Speaker 3: and forth, chanting their chants and singing their songs, it

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Speaker 3: would have been perfectly fine.

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Speaker 2: We've thought that with roast.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could have thought them disgusting for.

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Speaker 2: Doing so, but legally, to your points, absolutely, they would

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Speaker 1: Absolutely legal.

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Speaker 3: And I love peaceful legal demonstrations because I think peaceful

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Speaker 3: legal administrations are a fantastic aspect of American politics. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean I have to agree with them, but as

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Speaker 3: long as they're peaceful and legal, it's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: The problem is is that this was not peaceful, and

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Speaker 3: it violated the First Amendment rights of people in that

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Speaker 3: is the consequence of doing that. That's in the Face Act.

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Speaker 3: That is a federal crime. It is not a First

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Speaker 3: absolutely a federal government's interest to enforce it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: within four days, it's pretty good. I think it sends

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Speaker 1: That may have been strategic. I've got more with Ed

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. Find

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Speaker 2: everything at Tony kats dot com. The Board of Peace

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Speaker 2: is off and running it. Oh no, listen, they're trying something.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys a pleasure to be

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Speaker 2: Just look for Tony Katz and subscribe. The President launching

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Speaker 2: the Board of Piece while they're in Davos signing the

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Speaker 2: You run your nation, I'll run my nation. Let's have

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Speaker 2: a nice day. We'll engage some CREATI bab blah. Well

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Speaker 2: What it is now certainly is a valueless proposition. Now

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Speaker 1: Done, I don't know if it's gonna work. But undercutting

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So we've got arrests that have taken place because of

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Speaker 2: One can dream, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good.

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Speaker 1: To be with you.

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Speaker 3: coordinating this with Don Lemon. And again, this is one

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Speaker 3: of the reasons why you want to shut up about stuff.

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Speaker 3: Have your attorneys doo you're talking for you in the

437
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Speaker 3: aftermath of things like this, and that type of thing

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Speaker 3: is gonna it's going to be admissible in court, and

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Speaker 3: he's going to have he's gonna have to lawyer up

440
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Speaker 3: no matter what he does, and he's gonna be lucky

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Speaker 3: if he's not charged in this.

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Speaker 2: And that you know when you listen to his smugness

443
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Speaker 2: in his quali defense about how he's just a journalist

444
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Speaker 2: and you're only going after me because I'm a black

445
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: gay man, as if anybody cares whatsoever, I think this

446
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: becomes a conversation about clickbait. Hey, this is going to

447
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: get me in the headlines. Hey, this is going to

448
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Speaker 2: get me a lot of views here and then the

449
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Speaker 2: the ever popular. No one's really going to come after me.

450
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Speaker 2: I can get away with the these things.

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Speaker 1: Is there is there more of this to come?

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Speaker 2: You know, Alensky talks about a good tactic as well,

453
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Speaker 2: your people enjoy Is this the tactic? Is Don Lemon

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Speaker 2: doing this now an inspiration to other progressives and people

455
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Speaker 2: who are on the margins, like Jim Acossa and others,

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 1: This is the way?

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Speaker 3: No, I think that the fact that people are getting

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Speaker 3: arrested for this is a pretty is this pretty strong

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Speaker 3: disincentive for this is the way now. The activists are

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Speaker 3: one thing, but when you get people like Jim Acosta

462
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Speaker 3: and Don Lemon who are at risk, then I think

463
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Speaker 3: things start to back off just a little bit. But yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you're right. I think this is

465
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Speaker 3: about clickbait. It's about getting attention. That's kind of what

466
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Speaker 3: this type of I don't want to call it activism

467
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Speaker 3: because there's legitimate forms of activism. This is what this

468
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Speaker 3: kind of uh uh terrorism, Maybe a little too strong intimidation.

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Speaker 3: This is what these types of intimidation tactics are supposed

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Speaker 3: to produce. It's supposed to produce great feelings. You're you're

471
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Speaker 3: feeling powerful, You're you're you're interfering with the man, and

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Speaker 3: you know, and f Trump and all of this. And

473
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Speaker 3: that is going to incentivize some people who aren't entirely

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Speaker 3: rational or don't really think things through very well, like

475
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Speaker 3: don Lemon, to do things that are going to get

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Speaker 3: them in a great deal of trouble. And and that's

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Speaker 3: where that's where we're at with this. This is and

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Speaker 3: by the way, this is where we're at with Rene Good.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that Renee.

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Speaker 1: Good was shot by by ice, but she was out.

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Speaker 3: There obstructing their operations. She didn't follow lawful commands to

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Speaker 3: step out of her car. Her wife told her to

483
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Speaker 3: drive away, and she hit an agent and that's lethal force.

484
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Speaker 3: It was all sorts of bad on just it was

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Speaker 3: a bad outcome of a bad situation. That's what the

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Speaker 3: risks are in these types of things. This is sort

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Speaker 3: of the extreme of the outcomes of it. Nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to see anybody get shot in circumstances like that. It's

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Speaker 3: terrible that somebody did. But this is what happens when

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Speaker 3: you play with fire is you get burned eventually, And

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Speaker 3: that's what happened with Renee Good, and that's what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen the next time somebody tries to interfere with

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Speaker 3: ice and uses lethal force, either against the the officers

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Speaker 3: in the field or in order to escape them. It's

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Speaker 3: I think this is why you don't do that sort

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Speaker 3: of run. Two different subjects though.

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Speaker 2: There's there's the one subject of whether or not people

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Speaker 2: rational people who may not like what I just doing,

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Speaker 2: would get involved in how this may keep them away.

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Speaker 2: Now that's just too much. But Don Lemon is taking

501
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Speaker 2: a look at clicks and hits and interviews like, all right,

502
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Speaker 2: I'm back on the front pages. Everyone realizes how important

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Speaker 2: I am. And that's a crazy aphrodisiac. And then you

504
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: have the other people like that guy screaming you can

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Speaker 2: kill me, you can kill the revolutionary, but you can't

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Speaker 2: kill the revolution The word state that they don't see

507
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Speaker 2: this as a disagreement. They are discussing a total dismantling

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Speaker 2: of the nation writ large. They are absolutely, at least

509
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Speaker 2: in their words, willing to die. And when I take

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Speaker 2: a look at them going into a church and engaging

511
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Speaker 2: the intimidation. I do believe you can use the word terrorizing.

512
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Speaker 2: I think that that puts you moments away from them

513
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: lighting bibles on fire. Now, yeah, you won't see anybody

514
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Speaker 2: walk into a mosque with forty people saying, how come

515
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Speaker 2: you're not upset with Somali's that were involved in fraud.

516
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Speaker 1: Of the American people?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you out there supporting the American people as

518
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Speaker 2: opposed to this fraud that's never going to come, Which

519
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Speaker 2: is another part of this story.

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Speaker 1: But I.

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Speaker 2: Do think that we are in this place where we

522
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Speaker 2: don't see the disincentive rather the true believer who has

523
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Speaker 2: been told that the whole nation is going to be

524
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Speaker 2: destroyed if we don't get rid of Trump, get rid

525
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Speaker 2: of I, stop Republicans, keep them from winning by any

526
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Speaker 2: and every means possible. I think it's just to lead

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Speaker 2: to more and greater violent acts.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is, This is what happens when you

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Speaker 3: when you adopt a resistance mentality instead of an opposition mentality.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, when you're in.

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Speaker 3: A constitutional republic, you know, based on democratic you know processes,

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Speaker 3: when you lose an election, you're in the opposition, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's responsibilities for being in the opposition. You

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Speaker 3: highlight all the things that are going wrong, you try

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Speaker 3: to you try to engage as much as possible to

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Speaker 3: get what you can.

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Speaker 1: Uh. That's that's the traditional republican democratic republic.

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Speaker 3: In the non communist sense, right, because democratic republic is

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Speaker 3: you know what some communist states call themselves. That's a

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Speaker 3: traditional role in a in a constitutional republic. Of people

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Speaker 3: who lose elections, they go into the opposition. They propose alternatives,

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Speaker 3: alternatives for policies, They try to get compromises so they

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Speaker 3: can get some of their objectives pushed through until the

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Speaker 3: next election. The people who are involved in this are

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Speaker 3: not opposition, They are resistance, and so they're they're framing

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Speaker 3: this is that they have to obstruct literally everything that's

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Speaker 3: going on. They want to create this kind of chaos

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Speaker 3: in order to provoke the larger revolution. Yeah, and you're right,

549
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Speaker 3: some of these disincentives won't even touch those impulses. What

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Speaker 3: it will do, though, is it will limit the recruitment

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Speaker 3: for that type of for that type of approach.

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Speaker 1: I guess you can say it brings me. It will

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Speaker 1: it will eventually.

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Speaker 3: Force people to to think about things rationally, and the

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Speaker 3: people who are rational will respond to those incentives, which

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Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that the people who are in irrational

557
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Speaker 3: are very few in number.

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Speaker 1: To the mid realms. It brings me to the midterms.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hot air dot com.

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Speaker 1: Does any of this, any of what we have seen?

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Speaker 2: The the slander of ICE agents, the politicos saying we

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Speaker 2: should defund ice and you people are are are terrorists

563
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Speaker 2: and and and you're unworthy and you're good at the

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Speaker 2: other gestapo uh and uh, the hitting of them with cars,

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Speaker 2: the ramming of cars, what happened with with Renee Good

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Speaker 2: watching what has happened regarding this this church invasion. Is

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Speaker 2: there an effect on the voter for the midterms, which

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Speaker 2: I would normally call an economic election where the opportunity

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Speaker 2: for gaining seats goes with the opposition party as opposed

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Speaker 2: to the party in power. The data shows that in

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Speaker 2: the House, mostly in the House more often than not

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Speaker 2: in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Does this have an effect in your view? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it does.

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Speaker 3: And I've been talking about this with people, and I've

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Speaker 3: written about it a couple of times, and people get

577
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: a little irritated by this. But the problem is is

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Speaker 3: that it's chaos, and chaos always redounds against the party

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Speaker 3: in power. Voters expect things to be handled with a

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Speaker 3: minimum amount of chaos, and the chaos agents kind of

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Speaker 3: count on this too, by the way, And this is

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Speaker 3: what happened in twenty twenty is that you had all

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Speaker 3: sorts of chaos breaking out, first with the pandemic, then

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Speaker 3: with the riots, and Republicans ended up narrowly losing that election.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're trying to set up for the midterms too,

586
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: is this chaos, and to a certain extent, it is

587
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Speaker 3: being activated through very aggressive tactics by Immigrations and Customers Enforcement,

588
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Speaker 3: right which I completely support the mission. I understand that

589
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: they're arresting people who are very bad and there's only

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Speaker 3: certain ways that you can do this. They're trying to

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Speaker 3: explain how they're going through the process, and that's all good.

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Speaker 3: It's a very difficult situation here, though, because when it

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00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: creates chaos, people look at that and say, well, I

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: support the policy, but I don't necessarily want to see

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Speaker 3: these outcomes as a result of that, And people will

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Speaker 3: look at the chaos and blame the party in power

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Speaker 3: for it. So yes, I think that there is a

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Speaker 3: risk in the mid terms with this, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think that risk actually existed until two or three weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Just remember this is all just over the last two.

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Speaker 2: Or three Will you see the risks for the Republicans

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Speaker 2: and not the Democrats?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because the Democrats aren't in charge. Republicans are in charge,

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Speaker 3: so they sort of own the chaos that gets created.

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Speaker 3: People are going to look at this and say, what

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Speaker 3: was the what was the initiating factor, what was the

607
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: catalyst for the chaos? And if they conclude that it

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Speaker 3: was Ice enforcing immigration laws in the way that ICE

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Speaker 3: is doing, then yes, I think there's a risk for

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Speaker 3: Republicans in the midterms that this is the isn't.

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Speaker 1: The reactive isn't the answer?

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Speaker 2: Put down the chaos and this nonsense federalizing that.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're trying to get it done.

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Speaker 3: Well, then then you're really setting fire to Then you're

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Speaker 3: really setting.

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Speaker 1: Fire to the chaos narrative, because if.

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Speaker 3: You send an if you if you invoke the Insurrection Act,

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Speaker 3: which I guarantee you Trump would be inclined to do otherwise,

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Speaker 3: then you're really creating a crisis and again, crisis is chaos,

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Speaker 3: and voters are not going.

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Speaker 1: To respond well to that.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm just saying that this is the type of

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Speaker 3: thing today you probably want to get a hold of

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Speaker 3: and and dial down as fast as you you can

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Speaker 3: do it while still maintaining the mission.

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Speaker 1: I do not know. Tricky, and it's going to be tricky.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're wrong, but saying that they

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Speaker 2: can engage in rioting and the political right suffers the

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Speaker 2: consequences of it, that is, that's a messed up thought

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Speaker 2: and one that's gonna keep some people up at night.

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Speaker 2: Edmarrissey hotair dot com. Check out his latest over there

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Speaker 2: on the arrests in the church invasion. I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: very much more to get to I'm Tony Kats and

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Speaker 2: this is Tony Kats today. So by all accounts, this

635
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Speaker 2: weather that is coming through the country is going to

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Speaker 2: be I believe the term is ugly. Tony Kats, Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today. Good to be with you. I'm following every

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Speaker 2: single bit of it because this weather is going to

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Speaker 2: make a huge determination on you know, I've got an.

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Speaker 1: Advent I'm supposed to have this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Trump one year later, the highs, the lows, how we

642
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Speaker 2: win the midterm? Looking back, I've got bourbon, I've got

643
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Speaker 2: food everybody. And now I'm like, I'm paying attention very

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Speaker 2: closely to what this weather is going to bring, because

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Speaker 2: this weather might change things a whole bunch of things.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're still a go.

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Speaker 2: But you look at how this thing is moving across

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Speaker 2: the country and everybody's in a panic. And of course,

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: because it's going to affect the East Coast, they act

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Speaker 2: like it's.

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Speaker 1: The only story out there.

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Speaker 2: When storms affect affect us in the Midwest, ah whatever,

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Speaker 2: they don't care at all. It's so pathetic. But this

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Speaker 2: one does affect the Midwest. And our friends on KARMG

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma are gonna get affected, our friends on news

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Speaker 2: talk Saint Lewis, they're gonna get affected.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a battle. This is some real weather.

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Speaker 1: The question is.

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Speaker 2: For me, what's gonna happen in my beloved Indiana? And

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Speaker 2: it seems to be like cutting the state in half.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people can be traffic issues for sure

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Speaker 2: on the roads, but travel issues with flights. There's going

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Speaker 2: to be all sorts of things that happen because because

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Speaker 2: some people are nuts.

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Speaker 1: And there's gonna be some real weather, so.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye and keep listening to your radios and

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Speaker 2: keep an.

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Speaker 1: Eye on what's going on and to be safe.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the best there is. Find everything at Tony

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Speaker 2: kats dot com. Tomorrow, everyone, take care,