1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Donald Trump in Asia, and if I 3 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: listen to the sources. 4 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: We're working on some deals. 5 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: We've got some possible trade deals in a framework with China. 6 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how that's supposed to work. I don't 7 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: know whether or. 8 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: Not I believe it yet. Why would I believe anything 9 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: having to do with ya. We've been down this road before. 10 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: But in all of these situations, in all of these places, 11 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: I will continue to give the benefit of the doubt 12 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: and hope things work out. Why wouldn't I. But if 13 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: they don't, we're gonna, you know, we gotta say so. 14 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: We've got to be people who who say this isn't working. 15 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, what are you doing? Everybody? 16 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony kats dot com, streaming live at 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: the youtubess, YouTube, dot com, slash Tony Kats, and of 18 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: course on the Twitter x Tony Kats, Facebook, Tonykats Radio. 19 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: So the story is that they've worked out a framework. 20 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: I gotta admit, I'm not one hundred percent sure what 21 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: a what a framework is. I don't know how that 22 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: differs from anything else that we've ever seen. In the end, 23 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: does China buy American soybeans? 24 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: And I did just bring something up for the sake 25 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: of bring it up. 26 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: Soybeans being unbelievably important to American farmers. Soybeans and really 27 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: byproducts utilized by the hog industry in China, which feeds 28 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: their people. I mean, this is this is big stuff. 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: And they've been working on soybeans in South America and 30 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: other places and putting in rail to be able to 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: maneuver the stuff so they didn't have to have a 32 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: reliance on the United States. So there's a lot here. 33 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot here in a conversation regarding what can 34 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: be seen as a level of a great week. 35 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: We have read this morning that you said there is 36 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: a very successful framework in place. 37 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: Now tell us about that. Please, thank you, Martha. 38 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: Good to be with you. 39 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: So this was a fifth meeting that I've had with 40 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 6: my Chinese counterpart, the Vice Premier Khui Fung, and we 41 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 6: covered a wide range of issues, and I think we've 42 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 6: reached a substantial framework for the two leaders who will 43 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 6: meet in Korea next Thursday. 44 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 7: So you know, on the on the table. 45 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 6: The President had given me maximum leverage when he threatened 46 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 6: one hundred percent tariffs if the Chinese imposed their rare 47 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: earth global export controls. So I think we have averted that. 48 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: So the tariffs will be averted and we have a 49 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 6: regular meeting, regular quarterly. 50 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: Meeting with the Chinese. 51 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: It was scheduled for. 52 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: November tenth or before November tenth. I don't think we 53 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 6: will have to have that, So we have been rolling 54 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 6: the tariffs quarterly. So we agreed on that. We also 55 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 6: agreed on substantial agriculture purchases. 56 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 7: For US farmers. 57 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 6: We agreed that the Chinese would begin to help us 58 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: with the recursor chemicals for this terrible fentanyl epidemic that's 59 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 6: ravaging our country. So I would say that it was 60 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 6: a very good meeting overall. 61 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: Unless you're gonna get the Chinese to say we'll no 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: longer take cartel money for fentanyl or or fentanyl related pharmaceuticals, well, 63 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't think we've got anything there. But what else 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: are you gonna What else is he gonna say? When 65 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: you're dealing with an adversary like China, who they need 66 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: our markets, we want their productivity. It's it's hard, it's difficult, 67 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: but trust no no, thank you, Sec Besson. I have 68 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: I have no trust in in the in the Chinese 69 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: and I think you were a fool if you did. 70 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: Now Besson while he was there, he was he did 71 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: Martha Stewart's show on ABC and with NBC. It got 72 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: into a really interesting conversation about the shutdown. 73 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 8: Billing and now that's what's happening. But very quickly before 74 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 8: I let you go, we're now in the second longest 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 8: shutdown in US history. When will President Trump meet with 76 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 8: Democrats to try to bring this shutdown to a close 77 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 8: and get federal workers their paychecks back again, mister Secretary. 78 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 6: Well, Chris, I'm going to have to reject the premise 79 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 6: of your question. 80 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 7: Why did President Trump have. 81 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: To meet with Democrats? 82 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 6: Democrats just need to go into the Senate and vote 83 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 6: to in the Shutdown's. 84 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: President Trump has said in the passage. 85 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 8: Up to the President's and no, he said that in 86 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 8: the past. 87 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 9: He said, you have to be a leader. 88 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: The president has to lead. 89 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 8: You have to get people into a room, you have 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 8: to get a deal. 91 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: When's he going to do that? 92 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 6: Well, he is leading, and there's no deal to do 93 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 6: with Chuck Schumer. 94 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 7: Chucks is trading off his poles. 95 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 6: What's different than when he passed a clean cr in 96 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: the spring. 97 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: It's his polls. 98 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 6: You know, he's word the whole country is being held 99 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: captive to AOC's polls. 100 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: That is correct. Now, Besson's good. Besson is able to 101 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: push back. And the first argument is the profound one. 102 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: Why does the president have to meet with these people? 103 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: And we keep. 104 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Discussing it as we're on day twenty seven of the shutdown. 105 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: They don't mean have a discussion. 106 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: When when Democrats say we'll meet with anyone, anywhere, anytime, 107 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: who cares? 108 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: You want to extend the Obamacare subsidies. 109 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: The subsidies you were okay with them sunsetting at the 110 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: end of twenty twenty five, and you're blaming it on Republicans. 111 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: Why should Trump give you this. He's gonna take it anyway, 112 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: that's what you're fighting. I can't believe no one's talking 113 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: about this. I'm off base. No, no, no, I think I 114 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: got a cold kitten Trump to extend them. He will 115 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: extend them. He's not going to agree with me. He's 116 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: a populace. He's going to extend them, and then he 117 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: gets to take credit for it. So Bessett was dealing 118 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: with a bunch of things. But back to this, this 119 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: conversation about about trade. The trip to Asia so far 120 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: has been productive, rare minerals, treaty with Malaysia, peace deal 121 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: between Colombia not Columbia, sorry, Cambodia and Thailand. 122 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: These are good things. It is today. 123 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: With Sonati Takachi, who is the now Prime Minister of Japan. 124 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: President Trump met. 125 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: With the Emperor earlier today, right. Remember there, they're very 126 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: very far ahead of us when it comes to the clock. 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: That's Emperor Naruhito. 128 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: But it is the meeting with the Prime Minister that 129 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: I think is very important, and possibly more important than 130 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: the conversation with g which of course is the granddaddy. 131 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: But the reason I think it matters is twofold. First. 132 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: What's interesting about Takaichi is that she is considered, I 133 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: think a little western looking. She is considered she sees 134 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: Margaret Thatcher as a role model. And one of the 135 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: things that you just. 136 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Saw from her. 137 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: Is that there is a plan now being floated by 138 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:57,479 Speaker 3: the Japanese to purchase a fleet afford F one fifties. 139 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: And if anything is is going to get Trump's attention, 140 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: it's Hey. 141 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I start by buying five. 142 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: Hundred and six hundred, two hundred and eight hundred whatever 143 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: it is American pickup trucks, to which when Trump was 144 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: told us, he's like, hey, she's got good taste. That's 145 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: a hot truck, which it is. In full disclosure. I 146 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: drive the F one fifty. I drive the Lightning. I 147 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: have a forward sponsorship locally through a group called Andy 148 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: Moore Ford Fantastic People, and I like everybody knowing where 149 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm at at all times. But it is with Japan, 150 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: and possibly a more focused Japan, that one may be 151 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: able to engage better pressures against China. So first of all, 152 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: there's the desire for Chinese hegemony ruling the area there 153 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: of the Pacific Rim. If you're going to rule the 154 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: Pacific Rim, and of course that means shipping, which is 155 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: a massive problem. A stronger Japan might mean better opportunities 156 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: to keep Taiwan independent and certainly strengthen bonds to help 157 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: Taiwanese independence, or at least repelling the concept of absorption 158 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: by mainland China. These things are real important to American 159 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: strength because if you can curtail Chinese growth, you are 160 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: better off by multitudes. 161 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: So the question is what is the. 162 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: What is the possibility for Japan, How does that possibility 163 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: play with a South Korea that still deals with a 164 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: North Korean threat, and how they work and how they align. 165 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure that South Korea is interested in 166 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: playing any level of second fiddle, but South Korea has 167 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: its own serious leadership issues. So keep an eye on 168 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: this conversation with Japan with this new leadership, and how 169 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: that plays out, how that creates a much a really 170 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: interesting kind of look into the where the relations are 171 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: and what the future is. It should be noted that 172 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: Takaichi a protege of Shinzo Abe, the former Prime minister, 173 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: the late Prime minister, and a supporter of and a 174 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: friend of Donald Trump in his first term. This as 175 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: a pressure point to China is a big one. As 176 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: for the trade deal, never forget that China needs us 177 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: to I would love to see. 178 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: The communist regime vanquished. 179 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 10: I would love to see Jijinping fail, whether that's to 180 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 10: the hands of his people or not leave that kind 181 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 10: of you know, twisted fairy tales others. 182 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: I'd like to see China not be a communist nation. 183 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: We'd all be better off. But any trade deal must 184 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: come with the caveat that there is no trusting the 185 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: Chinese regime. And so when Scott Bessen, the Treasury Secretary, 186 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: says there's a framework, I say, lovely, fantastic, terrific. 187 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: Trust it. 188 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: Nope, not at all. I don't trust a framework, and 189 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: I don't trust China. Thus I pay attention to what's 190 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: happening with Japan because that may help push China into 191 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: places they don't necessarily want to go. It also might 192 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: upset and make them much more active, but I think 193 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: they're gonna be much more active anyway. The trip continues 194 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: for President Trump will be following it here. 195 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 196 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: I do have a bunch of ridiculousness to share with 197 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: you because people are still complaining about this ballroom. It's 198 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: Any Democrat who thinks that the ballroom is going to 199 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: get them votes is out of their heads. Tony Katz, 200 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. This is 201 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 3: not a story. This is the left just screaming at 202 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: the clouds, yelling get off my lawn. 203 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: You're all so boring. 204 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: But it leads to the first great story of the day, 205 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: which is representative Eric Swalwell, the guy who was with 206 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: the Chinese spy Fang Fang. See where I differ from 207 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: my contemporaries is that people say he had sex with 208 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 3: the Chinese spy, and I say there was no way 209 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: he was mad enough to have sex with the Chinese spy. 210 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, the Fang Fang was not 211 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: the spy who shagged me. Fang Fang was the spy 212 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: who wanted to who tried to shag him, but he 213 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: just wasn't up for it. What what they make medicine? 214 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: Don't be embarrassed, go go get the meds. It works. 215 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, why live unhappy? There's a med that 216 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: can help go and enjoy, be fruitful and multiply. Eric 217 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: Swollwell puts out on Twitter x because he is completely 218 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: obsessed with this events center ballroom thing that Trump is building. Quote, 219 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: don't even think of that, don't even think of seeking, 220 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: he writes, don't even think of seeking the Democratic nomination 221 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: for president unless you pledge to take a wrecking ball 222 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: to the Trump ballroom on day one. I cannot describe 223 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: to you in words how dopey that is. 224 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: So instead, I will not use. 225 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: Words It's embarrassing. It is absolutely embarrassing that someone could 226 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: make this. I don't know a position to which they 227 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: should really lean on. This is going to be the 228 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: new litmus test. Where are you on a two hundred 229 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: and fifty million dollar renovation project that the American people 230 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: didn't have to pay for? 231 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Wherever you are, kitten, if you want to make. 232 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: This your story, you're more than welcome to. But no one, 233 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: no one is paying attention. This isn't moving the electorate 234 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: at all. You will not gain another vote. But he's 235 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: not alone in a level of absolute ignorance. There is 236 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: a headline over at NBC. Let me see if I 237 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: can actually find the headline for you, because the headline 238 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: reads Measles spreading beyond the center of the Utah Arizona outbreak. 239 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: Well, that is certainly is enough to frighten. 240 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 7: It. 241 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: We're seeing measles growing. 242 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: That's a real serious issue. 243 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, they've got a couple stories. 244 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: These counties at Utah Arizona border seeing a surge. 245 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Hundreds in schools are now quarantining. 246 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: So how do the schools stay open? There's a lot 247 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: of subjects of conversation here. Ed Marquee, the senator from 248 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: Massachusetts rights measles was declared eliminated in the United States 249 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: in two thousand. RFK Junior must resign. Now should we 250 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: have a conversation about all the illegal immigration that Joe 251 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: Biden allowed in just his four years? 252 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: And note how people. 253 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: Coming from countries that don't have the sanitary conditions that 254 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: we do, don't have the medical conditions that we do. 255 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: How that could lead to a growth of diseases. We 256 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: considered eradicated in the United States a first. 257 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: World nation because I think we should. 258 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: And it's very clear that Ed Marky, if he had 259 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: any honesty or decency in his soul, he would do 260 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: the same. But now instead, hey, let's take the cheap shot. 261 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: That's all. We are kids, nothing but twenty four to 262 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 3: seven cheap shots. How can we go about attacking our 263 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: political enemies? How can we go about beating up our 264 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: political enemies? How can we go about hurting our political enemies? 265 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: That's it, that's all we do. 266 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: No conversation about honesty, no conversation about decency, no conversation 267 00:18:53,119 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 3: about facts. Just hey, look, hey, look something happens us 268 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: be Trump's fault. I want these people who do this, 269 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: especially elected officials. I want them to suffer the ballot 270 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: box for it. It won't happen in Massachusetts. No honesty, 271 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: just oh yeah, it must be Trump. Oh rfk, he's 272 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: not qualified. Honesty would require us noting who we've let 273 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: into the country and what they could. 274 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Have brought with them. 275 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. Join me as I'm on 276 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 3: Newsmack scheduled for three point fifteen Eastern time, looking forward 277 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: to and then of course I'll get the videos out 278 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: for everybody to see. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 279 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: to be with you. It wasn't widespread famine. 280 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: It was widespread lies. 281 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: And the people who repeat those lies are the same 282 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: cheap people, unwilling to honestly address the situation. Hamas Terrist organization. 283 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: You had plenty of Palestinians supporting them, and you had 284 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: the like minded fellow travelers, youthful idiots in the United 285 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: States who believe in the destruction of Western civilization. 286 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: There's a story in the New York Post about Moas terrorists. 287 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: At a five star hotel in Egypt, the Renaissance Cairo 288 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: Mirage City Hotel, which is the finest hotel in Cairo. 289 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: I've never been to And as you saw all these 290 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 3: political I'm sorry terrorists prisoners released from Israel. Palestinians who 291 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: were engaged in attacks got released, hundreds of them. They're 292 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: violent terrorists and they got released. It wasn't a hostage swap. 293 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: You would have to be comic Dave Smith inept to 294 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: call it a hostage swap. And it's just false. 295 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: He made that up. 296 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: He's lying. That's all there is to it. We're not 297 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: going to agree to disagree it to flat out lie. 298 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't a hostage swap. The Palestinians hummas. They held 299 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 3: hostages Israelis. We're dealing with terrorists trying to kill them. 300 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: There's a difference. I don't care if anybody likes the honesty. 301 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: It's just important to be honest. And after they got released, 302 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: what do they get? 303 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: Parties? 304 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: They get parties, they're sipping cappuccinos, they're eating, they're enjoying 305 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: the world class amenities. The question, of course, is who 306 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: paid for that. That somebody who spent X number of years, 307 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: whether it's two years or twenty years in prison. And 308 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: with this prisoner release, indeed, there are people who were 309 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: in Israeli prisons for twenty. 310 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: Years because they're terrorists. That's where they belong. If someone 311 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: the terrorists in the United States, jail. 312 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: For forever, what do we We're not, you know, lying 313 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: to each other. 314 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: We're not gonna pretend. 315 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: Jail for forever, that's all what happened. 316 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: If they lived through the firefight, jail for forever. 317 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: If you told me that somebody was released from prison, 318 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: no matter how disgusting they are, and they were seen 319 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: out to dinner with whatever like minded friends or whatever 320 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: family and eating this, that and the other, oh okay, 321 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: you could see it. You'd think it was gross. You 322 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: could see it. Five star resort. Who paid for that? 323 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: Who paid for that? That's the question, And the answer is, well, 324 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: it must have been Hamas. Hamas has the money to 325 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: feed all of these people, all these prisoners, and make 326 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: sure they have bubble bass and slippers. 327 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: The Lord only knows. They all went home with a robe. 328 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: And I'm to believe that somehow there was a widespread famine. 329 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: As we see more and more the photos out of Gaza, 330 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: the restaurants are open and they're packed. People have there, 331 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: there's food, and everything is going mostly swimmingly. Could you 332 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: find pockets? Could you find people. Of course, I would 333 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: never leave that out of any reality, including ours right 334 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: here in the United States. But the idea that it 335 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 3: was a genocide and lie, it was a lie? 336 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Where's been that conversation for the past week? Lie? 337 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: People like Mehdi Hassan Oh desperate to keep that going, 338 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: But it isn't going because it was never real. Now 339 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: that the clip has lost its usefulness, no one's making 340 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: that claim. They never believed in the claim to begin with. 341 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: And the money was there, the opportunity was there to 342 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: take care of anybody in Gaza, and Ama said, you know, 343 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: it'd be better to do. It'd be better for us 344 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: if we didn't. It'd be better for us if what 345 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: we did was allowed people to suffer, because it would 346 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 3: better move our message. 347 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: Isn't that exactly like a mons? 348 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: Isn't that exactly what they do? 349 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 7: Now? 350 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: Allow me to make a connective point here about people 351 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: who are okay. 352 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Very fine with. 353 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: In order to get their political objective. Day twenty seven 354 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: of the shutdown. This will speaker Mike Johnson today Republican 355 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: Louisianna's speaking of the House talking about the shutdown and Democrats. 356 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 11: Now, the third point is very important because they've been 357 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 11: trying to confuse the American people. 358 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: They've tried to say this is a fight about. 359 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 11: Healthcare or this or that or any other thing, and 360 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 11: it's very simple. 361 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: They put this on paper. 362 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 11: They've made this their demand in writing in the record 363 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 11: of the Senate, and it has not changed. These are 364 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 11: just four sub points there under fact number three. 365 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: But there's many more. 366 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 11: But among the things they're demanding, this is what the 367 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 11: Democrats in the Senate are. 368 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 4: Demanding to reopen the government. 369 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 11: They want to give two hundred billion dollars in health 370 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 11: benefits to illegal aliens and non. 371 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: Citizens paid for by US taxpayers. That is in their proposal. 372 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 11: They want billions in wasteful programs to be returned to 373 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 11: foreign countries so we stop these things. 374 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: They want to turn it all back on. 375 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 11: They're demanding that we do all that to get the 376 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 11: government open for hard working Americans again. They want to 377 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 11: give a half a billion to left leanning news news organizations, 378 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 11: and they want to cut fifty billion dollars from rural hospitals. 379 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 11: We cannot, we will not do those things, and they 380 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 11: know that very well, which leads us to point number four. 381 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 11: The Democrats have now openly admitted, and you all had 382 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 11: to cover it last week, that they're using the pain 383 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 11: of the American people as their leverage. That was the 384 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 11: number two ranked Democrat in the House, the Democrat, the 385 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 11: minority whip who said that acknowledged it in an. 386 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: Interview that this is leverage. 387 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 11: And Chuck Schumer himself boasted that every day of the 388 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 11: shutdown gets better for us. That's his now infamous quote 389 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 11: that he wishes he had not set out loud. But 390 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 11: you know what they're doing, and why why are they 391 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 11: demanding these things? Why is point number three so essential 392 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 11: to them? Why would they do this because it's unprecedented. 393 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 11: As we've noticed and reminded you all, they voted for 394 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 11: CRS every time it was possible. 395 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: In their lives. It's recently as March of this year. 396 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 11: But they're doing it to appease their far left Marxist base. 397 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: That's the headline. That's why, that's why we're all in 398 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: this mess. 399 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 11: That's why the American people are suffering pain because the 400 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 11: Democrats are more afraid of the Marxists in their base. 401 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: Than they are of hard work in Americans. See, they've 402 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: made an evaluation that. 403 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 11: They have to appease the Marxist base that they're so 404 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 11: concerned that they'll lose their jobs if they don't. 405 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: Appease the far left in their party. And they sat 406 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: in a back. 407 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 11: Room and they made the calculation that they would rather 408 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 11: shut the government down and impose all this pain on 409 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 11: the American people because they believe the Marxists, the far 410 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 11: left in the base are more active than hard working 411 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 11: Americans people who go vote, And so they made the 412 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 11: calculation that it's worth it to them. Every day gets 413 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 11: better for us. We'll use the pain as leverage for 414 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 11: what to prove to the far left base that they 415 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 11: won't give in, that they'll fight Trump and fight their Republicans. 416 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: What are they fighting. 417 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 11: It's a clean cor It's the same level of funding 418 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 11: that they have voted for as recently as earlier this year. 419 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 11: They are by then level policies and spending. This is 420 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 11: not some Republican wish list. We don't have any of 421 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 11: our priorities in this at all. It's the Democrat's own product. 422 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 11: But they have decided to flip the script this time 423 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 11: because they were getting too much heat from the far left. 424 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 4: The facts are so simple. 425 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: He's a thousand percent correct inflict the pain and then 426 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: blame other people for what it is. 427 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: You're doing, same mathematics, same exact mathematics, as we were 428 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: just discussing regarding Gaza. Spread the lie. Hope it sticks. 429 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: Damage your political opponents, see if they'll give in. And 430 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: we've got a lot of people who are very willing 431 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: to believe some lies, buy into some nonsense, and it becomes. 432 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Harder and harder for us. I was I was. 433 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: Part of a panel a couple of weeks ago with. 434 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: Glenn Beck and some others, and the. 435 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: Question was asked, is it easier or is it harder 436 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: to connect with your audience these days? 437 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: That's the paraphrase of the question. 438 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: And so I'm not one hundred percent sure about what 439 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: could get meant by connect but I do know that 440 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: the bar for believability is at a height that is 441 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: near unobtainable. The immediate reaction from all of us is 442 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: to not trust the thing that we heard, and certainly 443 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: never to trust it from people we disagree with. Now, 444 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of that that is healthy. We 445 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: would call it healthy skepticism is what we would call it. Right, 446 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: We would call that a very healthy skepticism, and it 447 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: it's check, double check, and recheck. 448 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: It's Ronald Reagan. Trust but verify. 449 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: None of that is actually new. But it used to 450 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: be that with the institutions are things we had faith in. 451 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: And what the institutions have done is they have given 452 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: up their faith in us. So we've given up the 453 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: faith our faith in them. And that's what happened. The 454 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: institutions were run by elites. The institutions then said we 455 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: hate the people were providing the information too, and they 456 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: hate became so great that the people said, hey, why 457 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: don't you screw off? And now we don't trust you. 458 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: CDC don't trust you, IRS don't trust you, and cable 459 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: News absolutely don't trust you. 460 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: We don't trust So if you're sitting on this. 461 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: Side of the microphone anybody, how do you then gain 462 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: trust of your audience Because you're always trying to be honest, 463 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: or at least you should be. But the bar is 464 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: extremely high and you're aiming for this because it used 465 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: to be there was a basic amount of faith, and 466 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: then it was here, have you made a mistake? All right, 467 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: it wasn't the end of the world. You could correct it, etc. 468 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just get something wrong. Now that is 469 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: something that has very little bit of forgiveness. But if 470 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: we talk about people who are ideological and involved in 471 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: their confirmation bias, anything their side says is fine. Anything 472 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: the other side says is alive. These people told us 473 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: widespread famine and a genocide by Israel. Yet when prisoner 474 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: terrorists are released from Israeli prisons, they're treated to cappuccinos 475 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: at five star hotels. Where'd the money come from? It 476 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: was all famine and destruction two months ago, and now 477 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: you could afford a latte and a terry cloth robe. 478 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: Now you've got spa sessions. 479 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: Anybody who believes the Gaza Health Ministry or anything Hamas says, 480 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: wants you to suffer. They want Western civilization fail. They'll 481 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: believe any lie, even when shown at their lies. 482 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: There is no doubt. 483 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. So 484 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: his producer Landin is looking around keeping a sye on 485 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: the news. A twenty nine year old has been arrested 486 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: for an alleged forty five thousand dollars hit on Attorney. 487 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: General Pam Bondi. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. 488 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: Good to be with you if you believe, if you 489 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: believe that the temperature will be lessened. Allow me to 490 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: prove to you not and let me share with you. 491 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: This goes along with something you'll see in the show. 492 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: I have it in the show sheet right or did 493 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: I have this separate that the left is still looking No. 494 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: I put this out on social media. The left is 495 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: still absolutely looking for a lone wolf. 496 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: You saw this in a post from Gavin. 497 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: Newsom talking about the. 498 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: The ballroom again. 499 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: The insanity of the ballroom is insane. 500 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, Oh, this wasn't about the ballroom. 501 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: This is about when Trump got off the plane in 502 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: Malaysia and the people there are greeting him and there's 503 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: some dancing and he's dancing with them and he's doing 504 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: the Trump dance thing. Gavin Newsom shared that and shared 505 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: a story about how SNAP is going to lose funding 506 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: right food stamps if you will, and he wrote, Donald 507 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Trump is literally dancing in Asia while forty million people 508 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: lose access to food. 509 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: Disgusting. 510 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: First, forty million people losing access to food is because 511 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: we don't have a continuing resolution and we don't have 512 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: funding going to the places it needs to go. If 513 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: the Democrats would simply fund the government, you wouldn't have 514 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: this issue. But of course you got to put it 515 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: all on Trump and not on the Democratic Party and 516 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: demanding that they do their job and negotiate. 517 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: In good faith. 518 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 3: But saying that forty million people are going to lose 519 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 3: access to food while Trump doesn't care is the call 520 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: for the lone wolf. He knows exactly what he's saying here. 521 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: The left is still looking for lone wolves to finish 522 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: the job and violence. Gavin Newsom is just one of 523 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: many looking for candidates. That's what's happening there. So is 524 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: it all in any way surprising that this guy who 525 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: calls himself an anarchist put a hit out on the 526 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: Attorney general. He was a restadent. October sixteenth, the tipstart 527 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 3: learning the FBI the allegend murder for higher plot. 528 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: This guy blasted it out on social media. 529 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: It literally says, wanted Pambondy reward forty five thousand dead 530 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: or alive, preferably dead. This will not end soon. The 531 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: only way out is through. These people cannot get power. 532 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 3: They have to lose elections and we have to raise 533 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: our kids. 534 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 7: Right. 535 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats Today. 536 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 537 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. The president has to accept the fact. 538 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: And I know this is going to upset some but 539 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: it is what it is. 540 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: What it is that if you're gonna keep taking out 541 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: these Venezuelan drug boats, if you're gonna keep saying that Venezuela, 542 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: led by Nicholas Mardurero is a narco terrorist group, well 543 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: then you're going to have to explain to Congress why 544 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: you haven't declared war. 545 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 546 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. And if you're 547 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 3: gonna tell Congress, listen, I am going to keep killing 548 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: these people. 549 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: These are drug boats. 550 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 3: They're bringing drugs into the United States and we have 551 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: to stop them because every time we stop one's that 552 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: is like us saving twenty five thousand American lives. 553 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying. 554 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 7: I know. 555 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: My issue with taking out these drug boats is very, 556 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 2: very very limited. 557 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 3: I have no problem with it whatsoever. The issue at 558 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 3: play here is whether or not we are now engaged 559 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: in an act of war against Venezuela. And for the President, 560 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 3: I would only say this, do not make the. 561 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: Almost insane assumption. 562 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: That Congress is going to so easily abdicate this responsibility. 563 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: The conversation was, when President Trump took office in the 564 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: second term, got to get everybody he wants approved, all 565 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: his cabinet officials approved, and Senators were like, no, no, 566 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my advising consent role. I've got I've 567 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: got a thing I can do here. It's part of 568 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: being a senator, and I'm going to do it. And 569 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm here for six years. Trump's only here for four. 570 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. And I think Magaville was 571 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 3: shocked to learn that senators have absolutely giant egos and 572 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: they were not so willing to give up that authority. 573 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: I believe the same situation applies here now. I have 574 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: no issue with the President saying that boat was a 575 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: threat and based on our intelligence, we took uh, we 576 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 3: engaged in taxics, we took steps to neutralize the threat. 577 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: Don't have an issue with that. I think the President 578 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: can do that. I think that's I think that's fine. 579 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: But on the repeated you're making a statement, and this 580 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: is what Senator rand Paul has been getting out again. 581 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: I don't mind the taking out of the boats. But 582 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 3: he was arguing a conversation of due process. 583 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, that's not. 584 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: I think a conversation that has a practicality. Oh my gosh, 585 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: Trump is taking out fishing boats. Barack Obama droned Americans. 586 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's what about is let's stay 587 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 3: on the subject, Tony fine. I'm more than happy to 588 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 3: A repeated action against an adversary could be seen as 589 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: a war action. 590 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 2: And it is absolutely rational. 591 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: That members of Congress say, if we're at war, you need. 592 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 2: To come with us. 593 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: You need to you need to come to us, and 594 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: you need us to make this okay because you, the 595 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: president of the commander in chief, don't declare war WeDo 596 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 3: and it seems like you're engaging in a war with Venezuela. 597 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 3: We set the USS Gerald forward down to the Caribbean. 598 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: It's the largest aircraft carrier that we've got. We've got 599 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 3: the Knimets coming out of the Middle East, South China 600 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 3: Sea and making its way back to Port and Washington State. 601 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: The NIMTS had its own problem where you had both 602 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: an F eighteen hornet I think it's a hornet and 603 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 3: a helicopter within thirty minutes of each other, crashed, all 604 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: the crew was recovered. 605 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: It's a real issue why that happened. 606 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes you'll see a story that a plane crashed into 607 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 3: the ocean because it was trying to land on the 608 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: aircraft carrier and to missed the cables. Right, it hooks 609 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: onto the cables and that's what stops it. Landing a 610 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: plane on a boat, a boat they're moving is not easy. 611 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 3: It's not easy stuff to do, and it's possible that 612 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: you'll lose a plane and luckily didn't lose the pilot, 613 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: just lost a plane. But this stuff does cost money, 614 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: does take time to rebuild. But the movement of. 615 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: The aircraft carrier. 616 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 5: Is what. 617 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 7: Right. 618 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes you move for a strategic advantage. 619 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: I do not know what this one is other than 620 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: to continue to put pressure on Maduro. I'm fine with 621 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 3: pressure on Maduro if that's what we're doing. But when 622 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 3: you're talking about taking out the drug boats as you are, 623 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: you're saying something else. And I don't think President Trump 624 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 3: should be surprised that people would be saying both Democrats 625 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: and Republicans, uh, we're the ones who make this call. 626 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: I'm never shocked when elected officials are saying this is 627 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: our purview and we are not going to have it 628 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 3: taken from us. Meanwhile, you know we brought up earlier 629 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: this murder for a higher plot, some anarchists offering up 630 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 3: forty five thousand dollars for a hit to try and 631 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: kill the Attorney General Pam Bondy. Well, Pam Bondi is 632 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: now speaking out at the White House. 633 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: We have some breaking news. 634 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 12: The twenty nine year old man has been arrested and 635 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 12: charged with threatening Attorney General Pambondy in an alleged murder 636 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 12: for higher post on TikTok. The post appears to place 637 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 12: a forty five thousand dollars bounty on the nation's top 638 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 12: law enforcement official. MSNBC's a Kaila Gardner is reporting from 639 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 12: the White House for US A KLA. 640 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 5: What more do we know about it? Thank Yeah, we're learning. 641 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 13: Today that a twenty nine year old man was arrested 642 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 13: for what law enforcement is describing as a murder for 643 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 13: higher plot against the Attorney General. Court documents show the 644 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 13: twenty nine year old was arrested on October sixteenth after 645 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 13: someone tipped off the FBI about this TikTok post that 646 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 13: he made threatening the Attorney General. Again, this is being 647 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 13: described as a murder for higher plot on social media 648 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 13: this month. According to an Affidavid, the TikTok user reported 649 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 13: the threat as a murder for hire against the US 650 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 13: Attorney General Pam Bondi. The user made other threatening posts 651 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 13: and called for a hit for forty five thousand dollars 652 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 13: on their personal TikTok account. The FBI traced the account 653 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 13: back to a man named Tyler maxon Avilos, a thirty 654 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 13: nine year old living in Saint Paul, Minnesota. 655 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: That's what they said in. 656 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 13: An Affidavid, and the bureau alleges that the account continues 657 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 13: to have ties to anarchy and they're continuing to investigate 658 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 13: this so we'll be closer. 659 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 2: I want to see the ties to Antifa. 660 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: Now, forgive me, I thought that was Pam Bondi who 661 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: was going to be speaking there. 662 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: So that was just the news reports. 663 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm good on MSNBC for actually reporting it. The continued 664 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: push to continued desire. Oh, someone I disagree with, they 665 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 3: must be destroyed. Well, Tony, this was an anarchist and 666 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 3: you can tell it. No, no, no, no, it's all the 667 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: same story. It comes from the delusion that because I 668 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: disagree with somebody, I can harm that person. I disagree 669 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 3: with someone, So they deserve to be harmed, they deserve 670 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: to be shut down, they deserve to be silenced, or 671 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 3: they deserved to be killed. 672 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 2: Like Charlie Kirk. 673 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: And I have described that the only way out is through, 674 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: and I've described that we have time and again and 675 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 3: again these Democrats who keep pushing this idea that everybody 676 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 3: you disagree with is a threat, and everything is a threat, 677 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 3: and everything is a threat to democracy. And one of 678 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: the things that the left has been talking about as 679 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: a threat to democracy is this stupid ballroom. It is 680 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 3: no story more unbelievably daft. The East Wing has come down, 681 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: and now you've got the building. What's gonna be like 682 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: this event center he's calling a ballroom. It's gonna be 683 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 3: a massive space because when they do events, they do 684 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: tents on the long And maybe you shouldn't. 685 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: The Washington Post. 686 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 3: The New York Times. 687 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: Have both. 688 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 3: Put out op eds saying, you know what, maybe everybody 689 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: should calm down. This isn't the biggest deal in the world. 690 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It's you know what, It's gonna be fine. 691 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: This isn't a big story, This isn't a major issue. 692 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: Maybe everybody doesn't have to be crazy, correct, accurate. They 693 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: made it up, they made the the How else can 694 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 3: we create more anger? How else can we create more hatred? 695 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: How else can we create more violence? Oh? I know 696 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 3: Trump's destroying the White House for his own personal needs. 697 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: Somebody has to do something about this. I wonder who 698 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: out there will do it. That's what they're asking for. 699 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 3: You disagree with somebody, you disagree with them. You don't 700 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 3: get to kill them over disagreement. You don't get to 701 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 3: kill them because you have a political difference. 702 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: No, you do not. 703 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 3: This whole concept, what they call Trump's arrangement syndrome, is 704 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: very very real, Which brings us to a. 705 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: Story about CNN. 706 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 3: And the story is that the CEO of CNN, Mark Thompson, 707 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: who hired somebody else for that midnight slot, you know, 708 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 3: the slot Jim Acosta wouldn't take midnight's two am because 709 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 3: he was too good for that. 710 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: And I said, I'll take that slot. 711 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 3: Right now for half the money, midnight to two am Eastern. 712 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 3: I will do that right now. I will get better 713 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 3: ratings in Jim Acosta daytime. In six months, I'll have 714 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 3: better ratings. Or you don't have to pay me. No, 715 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 3: maybe I took the money. You still have to pay me, 716 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 3: but I still have better ratings. You can fire me 717 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: in six months. Give me six months, I'll get better 718 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 3: ratings than Jim Acosta. Well, they went with somebody else, 719 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 3: and I think that was a shame. It's not that 720 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: I ever spoke to anybody or was ever in the running. 721 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 3: But the CEO, Mark Thompson, allegedly went to the White House. 722 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: That's the story. He goes to the White House and 723 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 3: he's talking about the new streaming service that CNN is 724 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: going to be putting into the world. And after that meeting, 725 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 3: he said to CNN, hey, maybe like woe up on 726 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 3: the whole East Room demolition and rebuilding thing, Like, oh 727 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 3: my gosh. Trump got to CNN, Oh my gosh. Maybe 728 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 3: CNN kind of figured out that this isn't a news story. 729 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 3: This is problem. This is the work of children complaining 730 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 3: about a ballroom. Someone just put out to me on Twitter. 731 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 3: They're blaming us for the shutdown? Why about the ballroom? Right, 732 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 3: try and change the subject. But in every single situation, 733 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 3: now you can't have your boss say, okay, guys, we've 734 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 3: covered this. It's not really a news story. It's not 735 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 3: really interesting. It doesn't move America. It doesn't matter to America. 736 00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: America doesn't care. Let's cover something else. Please, let's cover 737 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: something else. No, we can't. It has to be more 738 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 3: fomenting anger, more fomenting of violence, more foaming at the mouth. Altogether, 739 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 3: that's what they got, and that's what they're doing. I 740 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 3: cannot believe we're still talking about the dumb ballroom. America 741 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 3: doesn't care. So I mean, I bring it up because 742 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: these new things are happening. But in the end, I 743 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 3: gotta let it go. If we don't care, we don't care. 744 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. Maybe you find it interesting in that. 745 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: They're also wrapped up about it. 746 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 3: It's funny, but it does tell the story that anyway 747 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 3: they can try and develop anger against Trump, they'll do it. 748 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 3: This is the only thing they have to run on, 749 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: not a single policy at all at all. Speaking of running, Oh, 750 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 3: that story is up next. I'm Tony Katz. This is 751 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 3: Tony Katz today. General Motors is out of their minds. 752 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't understand the mathematics, I don't understand the desire. 753 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 2: General Motors. 754 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 3: First of all, Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, it's going 755 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 3: to be with you. How you doing, how's your mother? 756 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 3: Everything good? 757 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: Fine? Great? 758 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 3: So I like to hear you can find me on 759 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 3: the Twitter, Exit, Tony Katz, Instagram, Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony 760 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: Kats Radio. General Motors is going to eliminate Apple Carplane, 761 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 3: Android Auto from future vehicles. I don't know what they're thinking, 762 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 3: and I don't know why they're thinking this. 763 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 2: They are going to have their own interface, they say. 764 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 3: According to Mary Para, who is the CEO, OH General 765 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 3: Motors will allow for a smoother, safer, more unified user experience. 766 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 2: She said. 767 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 3: The timing is unclear, but they pointed to a major 768 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 3: role out of what the company is calling a new 769 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: centralized computing platform set to launch in twenty twenty eight. 770 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 3: It will involve eventually transitioning the entire lineup to a 771 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: unified in car experience. Now, the question before us will 772 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: be what will I have to pay to get this 773 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: user experience? Do we think that this is just gonna 774 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 3: well it comes with the car, Well, it comes with 775 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: the car, but there are only like three programs that 776 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 3: come with the car. If you want the full suite 777 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 3: of programs, it's this much a month. 778 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 2: We're getting to. 779 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 3: The place where you no longer own what you own. 780 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: That's somehow the technolology of the engine doesn't belong to you. 781 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 3: That it's it's the idea that. 782 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 7: You know. 783 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: They have the right to throw on extra charges anytime 784 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 3: you want, if you want things like horsepower, if I, 785 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 3: if I can, can I if I buy the car. 786 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: Can't I do things to the engine? 787 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, that's our proprietary and it's proprietary. You can't 788 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 3: change that. You can't do that. You can only charge. 789 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 3: We can only charge you. You can pay for it. It's 790 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 3: a bad place to be. It's a very very very 791 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 3: bad place to be. That you you because you're creating 792 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 3: a conversation about being adversarial with your with your consumer. No, 793 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: we don't provide you the ease of use. You have 794 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 3: to do it our way. People use an iPhone, they 795 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 3: use Android, and so they want to just be able 796 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: to keep using the interface. 797 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 14: They know. 798 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 3: They don't want to learn a whole new thing then 799 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 3: want any part of it. I think it's a very 800 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 3: bad play from General Motors, outrageously bad play. Meanwhile, as 801 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 3: that happens, President Trump is raising tariffs on Canada by 802 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 3: ten percent. This because that Ronald Reagan had Ontario put 803 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 3: this out, utilizing the voice of Ronald Reagan and in 804 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 3: a conversation about taris for not a complete conversation about tarriffs, 805 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 3: say tariffs don't work and tariffs are bad, and they're 806 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 3: showing American flags and kids playing baseball and the whole thing. 807 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 3: And it's meant to go directly at the tariffs that 808 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 3: Trump is implemented. I thought things were getting better with Canada. 809 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: Obviously not. Now there's another ten percent. 810 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't know why Ontario did it. It seems very 811 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 3: very silly, foolhardy at best and meant to cause pain 812 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 3: at worst, and very it seems very obvious that the 813 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: objective Ontario had there was how can we punch Trump 814 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 3: and not get any benefit out of it because it's 815 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 3: not gonna move American sentiment, because American sentiment on Tarris 816 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 3: is only this cause costing us more. We yet somehow 817 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 3: tell we are told everything is better, and people kind 818 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 3: of believe it. Swinging a miss GM and Canada strike too. 819 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 3: This is Sony Kats today. I am not saying that 820 00:54:53,440 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris does drugs. I am saying that I would 821 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: have no idea, and I do not believe it for 822 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,320 Speaker 3: a second. 823 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 2: But when she states. 824 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 3: That she isn't done with public life and hinting at 825 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 3: a run for twenty twenty eight, I assume that the 826 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 3: former vice president is on something. 827 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 828 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 3: Good to be with You find everything at Tony Katz 829 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 3: dot com. I am not done. If I listened to Poles, 830 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 3: I would not have run for my first office or 831 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: my second office, and I certainly wouldn't be sitting here. Somehow, 832 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 3: there's a poll that has her leading Gavin Newsom and 833 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 3: Pete Butter judge when it comes to running for running 834 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 3: for a president of the Democratic nomination? How many more 835 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: ways does Kamala Harris need to see that the Democratic Party, 836 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 3: he is not into her at all. They don't want her, 837 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 3: they're not voting for her, they're not interested in her. 838 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 2: They weren't interested in her a year ago. 839 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 3: They're not interested in her now, not by any stretch 840 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: of the imagination. 841 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: That's that is an amazing bit of delusion. You want 842 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 2: to talk about just being. 843 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely devoid of the ravages of thought, the idea that 844 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 3: she's actually going to run. 845 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: That's that is special. 846 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom has stated that he wants to run. 847 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 2: He has stated quite clearly that that's part. 848 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 3: Of his plan, that he'd be lying if he said 849 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 3: otherwise moment. 850 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 7: And that's the question for the American people there to. 851 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 15: Say, after the twenty twenty six midterms. 852 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 4: You're going to give it serious thought. 853 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be lying. Otherwise I'd just be lying, And 854 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 5: I can't do that. 855 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 15: Governor, you have long said that if you ever run 856 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 15: for the White House, you need a compelling why, a reason. 857 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 2: Are you moving. 858 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 15: Closer to figuring out your own why and your own decision? 859 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and needs to say you compelling why you can 860 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 3: endure anyhow, And so I don't think. 861 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 11: I think the biggest challenge for anyone who runs for 862 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 11: any office is people see right through you. 863 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 3: Yes, you're the guy who locked down California and then 864 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 3: was eating dinner in French laundry. You're the guy who 865 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 3: let Los Angeles burn and still won't off building permits 866 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 3: to the people the Palisades. You're the guy who continues 867 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 3: to lead a state into further and further economic calamity, 868 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 3: and you still believe in giving this many dollars to 869 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 3: people who are here illegally, you're gonna run for president. Guys, 870 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 3: I need to announce that I'm founding in a putting 871 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 3: together an exploratory committee. Anybody can run. There are no rules, 872 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 3: and we should be clear. This is the flip side 873 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump. I voted for Trump three times. That's 874 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 3: not my argument. My argument is Trump proved that anybody 875 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 3: can do it. Now, wait, Tony, not everybody's like Trump 876 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 3: can self fund and has that skill set of just 877 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: being able to punch someone in the face and people 878 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 3: are like, wow, that. 879 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 2: Felt terrific, right, rare one for sure, But. 880 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 3: In everybody's head, it's like, well, why not me? He 881 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 3: kind of made it more for lack of better word, common, 882 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: maybe he for some people, made it the possible, made 883 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: it seem actually obtainable, that the bar for what is 884 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 3: necessary can be morphed and moved amongst ideological sets. 885 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 2: This is this is part. 886 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 3: Of the whole conversation about elites, which again, this is 887 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 3: the fault of the elites. People who are smart, people 888 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 3: are capable, people who create that. We used to put 889 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 3: these people on a pedestal and then they started hating 890 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 3: everybody and now we can't stand these people. But there's 891 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 3: something to be said for we should want people running 892 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 3: for president who are president, who are smart and capable. 893 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 3: We want the best of the brightest, as our doctor. 894 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 3: We should want these things. 895 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 2: We don't have it. 896 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 3: We don't have it. And and and it's it's there's 897 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 3: a haunting here because the Democrats are really gonna run him. 898 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 2: They're really gonna run Gavin Newsom. 899 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 3: All that baggage, and they're gonna run him. And he's 900 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 3: you know, he's running, right. We don't have to question it. 901 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, if she can raise the money, why not. 902 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: It keeps you, it keeps you. 903 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 3: In the game. 904 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: Who knows what could happen? I think that's the way 905 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 2: they all do it. 906 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 3: And we don't get the best of the brightest in it. 907 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 3: It stinks to high heaven, it really does. That is 908 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 3: that is a crazy, crazy one two punch. Remind me 909 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 3: tomorrow to get into this story over there from Fox 910 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 3: about gen Z. Is gen Z inspired so by Charlie 911 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 3: Kirk that they are moving their way more and more. 912 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: Towards religion on college campuses. 913 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 3: I have the story. 914 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 2: I have some thoughts. 915 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: Governor Mike Brawn scheduled to join us there is a 916 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 3: special session in Indiana where he is governor about redistricting. 917 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: This has become a national fight, and Gavin Newsom wants 918 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 3: to join in the fight, even though he's pushing for 919 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: redistricting in his own state, because Democrats believe retribution is fine, 920 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 3: but the political process is not. 921 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 2: It's stunning stuff. 922 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 3: And let me tell you a Newsom put out a 923 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 3: very very ugly post about the Governor Mike Braun. I 924 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 3: will ask him about it. 925 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 2: Keep it here. You're not gonna want to miss it. 926 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. Governor Mike Broun of Indiana, scheduled to 927 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,919 Speaker 3: be with us. This is Tony Katz today. Governor Mike 928 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Braun will today sign a proclamation calling a special legislative 929 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 3: session for the General Assembly to convene on Monday, November third, 930 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, to consider altering the boundaries of Indiana's 931 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 3: congressional districts and to consider resolving an important issue regarding 932 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 3: federal and state compliance that must tax compliance that must 933 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 3: be addressed. 934 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony. 935 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Katz today, good to be with you. 936 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 2: Will leave the tax compliance to the side. 937 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 3: Governor Mike Braun, Governor of the State of Indiana joins 938 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 3: us right now, the Redition conversation, the push from Jade Vance, 939 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 3: the Vice President in the state of Indiana twice, the 940 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 3: call from President Trump. You had the Senate Republicans from 941 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 3: in the General Assembly in Indiana saying they don't have 942 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 3: the votes, but you've called for the special session. Give 943 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 3: me the elevator pitch. What made you decide that you 944 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 3: must believe that the votes are there? 945 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: What made you. 946 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Decide now was the time. 947 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 14: So let me give you the underpinning of why we're 948 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 14: doing it, and then get to the why. I think 949 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 14: there are going to probably be enough votes there. Blue 950 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,959 Speaker 14: states have already gerrymandered as much as they possibly can 951 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 14: to the benefit of their own party. 952 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 7: You take the six New England. 953 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 14: States that vote roughly around forty percent Republican. They have 954 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 14: zero Republican representatives in the House. In Illinois, our neighbor 955 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 14: to the west, and twenty four that split was forty 956 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 14: seven fifty three, yet Democrats hold fourteen out to the 957 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 14: seventeen House seats. That is the reason it needs to 958 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 14: be done. And then why would we be dragging our feet? 959 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 14: I think all along I wanted this to be as 960 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 14: organic as possible. 961 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 7: Give it time, and there's been. 962 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 14: Conversations going on for a long time between the White House. 963 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 14: Obviously JD came in presence made a couple overtures. But 964 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 14: I think if our own folks put their thinking caps on, 965 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 14: they'll see that this is the kind of. 966 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 7: Even the playing field. 967 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 14: And then when you hear the votes aren't there, that's 968 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 14: mostly coming from Democrats and others that don't want it 969 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 14: to occur for the reasons I've just mentioned. 970 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 7: They don't want the playing field even. 971 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 14: I think once this got to where it goes public, 972 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 14: you'll have people getting off. 973 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 7: The fence and you're going to see the votes will 974 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 7: be there. Well, let me in that it doesn't, and 975 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 7: then you deal with it. 976 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 3: Because it's very possible. You've called the special session, but 977 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,959 Speaker 3: doesn't guarantee the vote. That much is true. What other 978 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 3: states have done on this all seems to germinate out 979 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 3: of Texas making the change and then California saying that 980 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 3: we're going to engage in retribution. 981 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 2: If Texas had never moved, would Indiana have moved? 982 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 14: Well, I think when Texas did it, they were crossing 983 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 14: the rubicon to actually address the imbalance. California is a 984 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 14: gerrymandered state. They've got enough Democrats there where they can 985 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 14: jerrymander probably further most other states can't. And that who 986 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 14: starts first, who's second. The gauntlet's been thrown down, and 987 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 14: I think Hoosiers are generally not going to maybe initiate 988 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 14: stuff like that. Played by the rules, but the rules 989 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 14: haven't been played by by the other side for a 990 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 14: long time. That's why I thought it was going to 991 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 14: take time to get to where we are now. 992 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 3: Talking to Governor Mike Braun, the governor of Indiana. A 993 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 3: lot of statements from the Indiana Republicans and the Senate 994 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 3: saying they don't have the votes, which I always thought 995 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 3: was an interesting way for them to talk about things. 996 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 3: It seemed like they were trying to engage a pressure 997 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 3: campaign on Republicans in the Indiana Senate to go forward 998 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 3: with this. What does your internal whip count say? Do 999 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 3: you have the votes on redistricting? 1000 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 14: We think we're close enough to where once it becomes 1001 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 14: a public discussion, you'll hide behind the fact that it's 1002 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 14: all abstract until you have the discussion publicly. It looks 1003 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 14: like the House was not necessarily there. They had come 1004 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 14: along some time ago, and I think this is the 1005 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 14: catalyst that most Republicans in our state wanted to be 1006 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 14: a public discussion. I think any Senators that are still 1007 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 14: waffling haven't made up their mind, so they'll hear from 1008 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 14: their own constituents, and I think it'll be to go 1009 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 14: forward with it. 1010 01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 3: Indiana Democrats have come out to say, you're afraid of 1011 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 3: the issues. You're losing on healthcare, you're losing on education, 1012 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 3: You're just losing everywhere. Governor Braun, how do you respond 1013 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 3: to that? 1014 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,919 Speaker 14: I think if they think their policies, which reflect their 1015 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 14: federal Democratic Party, if that's going to gain stride in 1016 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 14: this state, that is a fatal mistake. We've done more 1017 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 14: to people are looking to Indiana on education. We've been 1018 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 14: the state more than any other that has tried to 1019 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 14: fix a broken healthcare system where our own system works 1020 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 14: like an unregulated utility and respect. They don't embrace competition, transparency. 1021 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 14: We just touched on it in this last session. I 1022 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 14: think they're grasping at straws for them to actually do 1023 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 14: well in Indiana. You can't be behind the issues that 1024 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 14: their federal party endorses. Their national party is off actually 1025 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 14: want to do more of that that's not going to 1026 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 14: sell in Indiana. 1027 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 3: Talking to Governor Mike Braun of Indiana, allow me, well, 1028 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 3: I've got. 1029 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 2: A couple of minutes. 1030 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 3: The conversation has been fierce on redistricting and nasty on redistricting. 1031 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to share with you a post from Gavin 1032 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 3: news from the governor of California, responding to your post, 1033 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 3: your statement that I just read about the special session 1034 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 3: on redistricting and the federal and state attacks issue. Here 1035 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 3: I share it as he wrote it, Sarah, I've got 1036 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 3: a minute. Looks like Governor Braun needs some knee pads. 1037 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 3: He's making a very gross conversation here that you're just doing. 1038 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,440 Speaker 3: The White House is bidding and you're just providing them favors. 1039 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 2: A response to Governor Newsom, I. 1040 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 14: Would say he is trying to stage himself for a 1041 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 14: failed effort to run for president, And of course he's 1042 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 14: got to say it because he's running the most dysfunctional 1043 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 14: state in the country, and he'll lose congressional districts most 1044 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 14: likely in the twenty thirty census because people are leaving 1045 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 14: his state in mass numbers. They're moving to places that 1046 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 14: don't run like that. Likewise, New Yorkers. Many of them 1047 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 14: are moving to Florida. And when I looked at the 1048 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 14: net migration into a state, Indiana, I think was the 1049 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 14: only one in the northern half of the country that 1050 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 14: had people moving into it. And that's the benefit of 1051 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 14: Pritzker and our neighbor to the west. So I think 1052 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 14: that's the response i'd give, and I'd like to hear 1053 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 14: his response to why people are moving out of his state. 1054 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Didn't even get to, bless your heart, why you're you 1055 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 3: took the high ground there, sir, Governor Mike Braun. I 1056 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time. In November three is when 1057 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 3: you want it to convene in five seconds. Will it 1058 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 3: convene on the third I think. 1059 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 14: It will, and I think there will be a lot 1060 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 14: of reinforcement for it. For senators that are still not 1061 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 14: sure what to do, they need to listen to this, 1062 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 14: they need to listen to what has been going on 1063 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 14: in other states by Democrats over a long period of time, 1064 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 14: and I think they'll get in the right place. 1065 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 3: Governor Mike Braun of Indiana, I appreciate you taking the 1066 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 3: time to be with us more to get to I'm 1067 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,759 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. 1068 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today. 1069 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. 1070 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,480 Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today, day twenty seven of the shutdown. 1071 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,680 Speaker 3: Good lord, all right, you didn't have this on your 1072 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 3: bingo card. You didn't know it would lasts this long. 1073 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 3: But Democrats, man, they are, they are convinced this is 1074 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 3: winning strategy. And so it was Speaker Mike Johnson doing 1075 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 3: his daily thing. Who's now going for flat out jugglers? 1076 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 3: Look what you're doing, Democrats. And then, oh, by the way, 1077 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 3: look who you're supporting. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 1078 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 1079 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,759 Speaker 3: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 1080 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:44,560 Speaker 3: This was Speaker Johnson saying, listen, people are going without paychecks. 1081 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 3: This is the real world, and this is all the 1082 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 3: fault of the Democrats. 1083 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 11: And many more are deemed essential workers. Those who are essential, 1084 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 11: for example, to keep the country safe TSA agents, we've 1085 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 11: discussed near traffic controllers and border patrol, and of course 1086 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,759 Speaker 11: are troops, but so many of them now are going 1087 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,439 Speaker 11: without pay. The families of military service members and the 1088 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 11: air traffic controllers and so many of these others are 1089 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 11: now at very real risk. 1090 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 4: Of missing the paycheck at the end of this month. 1091 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 11: The Trump administration has done everything possible to bend over 1092 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 11: backwards to try to find sources of funding within the 1093 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 11: federal government to be able to cover the bases, but 1094 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 11: it is getting more and more challenging with each day. 1095 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 7: Now. 1096 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 11: Every Republican in Congress wants to stop this madness desperately, 1097 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 11: and we have voted many times, over a dozen times 1098 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 11: collectively thirteen times to reopen the government, to keep it 1099 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 11: open and reopen it once the Democrats closed it. 1100 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 3: Can I ask why that doesn't matter to Democrats. There 1101 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 3: have been vote after vote after vote after vote, and 1102 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 3: Democrats keep voting no. Their argument is, well, you won't 1103 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 3: sit down and talk to us. Look at him going. 1104 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 3: President Trump's going to agent. He won't sit down and 1105 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 3: talk to us. 1106 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 2: He shouldn't do his job. Isn't that part of his job? 1107 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: Negotiating the trade deals, trying to bring peace between Cambodia 1108 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 3: and Thailand, and how do you work things out with 1109 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 3: China because they're not some small threat. What does he 1110 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 3: have to sit down and talk to you about, you 1111 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 3: have said. Democrats keep saying, and I've brought this up 1112 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 3: numerous times. We'll sit down with anyone anywhere, at any time. 1113 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 3: But that part doesn't matter. You want what you want. 1114 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,919 Speaker 3: The President said no. So now you're at a stellemate. 1115 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 3: One of you's got to change and the President isn't 1116 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 3: doing it. 1117 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:26,680 Speaker 2: And every day this. 1118 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 3: Goes on, you're the ones who are blamed. And while 1119 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 3: I have said many times that no one's paying attention, 1120 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter to anybody. 1121 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 2: As we start getting into. 1122 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 3: This now nearly a month, and as we start getting 1123 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,759 Speaker 3: into people now not getting multiple paychecks, one could argue 1124 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,560 Speaker 3: that it's going to start mattering. One could argue that 1125 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 3: it's going to start having a serious, serious effect. 1126 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 11: But here's the very simple and important fact that no 1127 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 11: one should forget. We have no ability. Republicans do not 1128 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 11: have the ability to do this on our own. It's 1129 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 11: a simple math problem. We need Democrats to help. You 1130 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 11: need sixty votes in the Senate. We only have fifty 1131 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,600 Speaker 11: three Republicans. 1132 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 3: Now what the Democrats, I shouldn't say the Republicans. What 1133 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 3: the Democrats would like to see is Republicans get rid 1134 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 3: of the filibuster. 1135 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 2: See if Republicans would. 1136 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 3: Just vote to end the filibuster and do this with 1137 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 3: a fifty plus one situation, well, then they could pass 1138 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 3: and then Democrats could say, see, they could have solved 1139 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 3: this the whole time. They could have done this the 1140 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 3: whole time. They shut down the government and they. 1141 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 2: Proved it right. 1142 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 3: They're going to play some game with that. But what 1143 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 3: it's clear that Democrats want is for Republicans to end 1144 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 3: the filibuster. They want that precedent to have a bit 1145 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 3: of substance of right. Nown is to it. That's not 1146 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 3: the right word right now, is to it. They want 1147 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 3: Republicans to get rid of the philibusters. So if they 1148 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 3: get powered, they can get rid of the philibuster and say, well. 1149 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 2: You did it. La la, la la la. 1150 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Democrats are going to get rid of 1151 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,680 Speaker 3: it anyway. Democrats do not play by the rules that 1152 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 3: we play by. They don't care about your rules. Republicans, Conservatives, 1153 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 3: they hate you, they don't care. 1154 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 2: So this part doesn't matter. 1155 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 3: So I think that this is a little bit of 1156 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 3: standing on on principle or standing on ceremony. It won't 1157 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 3: matter to Democrats. They'll still do what they have to 1158 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 3: do and they'll get rid of the philibuster anytime they want. Remember, 1159 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 3: they all favored getting rid of the philibuster. Then they 1160 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,560 Speaker 3: lost the Senate and they said the philibuster is the 1161 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 3: single most important thing in history. Now they see a 1162 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 3: political opportunity and they're just taking it. 1163 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 2: No one should be surprised by this and who they are. 1164 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 11: The Democrats are the ones voting repeatedly to shut down 1165 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 11: the government, but they're not opening it back up. They 1166 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 11: spent most of their time trying to distract the American 1167 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 11: people from the very simple truth. So it brought you 1168 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 11: a little visual aid here to just remind everybody what 1169 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 11: the simple facts are. For simple facts here, the Democrats 1170 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 11: are required to open the government. 1171 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 4: They keep saying Republicans are in charge of government. We 1172 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 4: aren't not. 1173 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:06,759 Speaker 7: In the Senate. 1174 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 11: Sixty votes control the Senate, not a bear majority. And 1175 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 11: so point number one Democrat votes are required to open 1176 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 11: the government. Point number two, they refuse to do it. 1177 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 11: They have now voted twelve times to keep the government closed. 1178 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 11: And they'll have another chance today or tomorrow, maybe multiple 1179 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 11: times this week, and we'll see what they do. 1180 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 3: I assume they're going to keep doing what they're doing 1181 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 3: if Chuck Schumer is going to let them. 1182 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 2: Vote the way they want and open up this government. 1183 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 3: He must then think that he's done what he needs 1184 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 3: to do. And look what they've done, and they've got 1185 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 3: a great victory here. There's no victory here, and there's 1186 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 3: no way out seemingly for the Democrats here. 1187 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 2: What is the. 1188 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 3: Outs where is the win? The win is Republicans capitulating, 1189 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,719 Speaker 3: and what they've clearly shown is that they're not going 1190 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 3: to And this is the very very different stuff. Now 1191 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 3: hold right there, because in this conversation that Speaker Johnson had, 1192 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,960 Speaker 3: he moved, he moved the whole conversation into not only 1193 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 3: what is it that Democrats are are stopping, but what 1194 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 3: it is they're supporting. And this got into the conversation 1195 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 3: of the uh the nominee there for the mayor of 1196 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 3: New York, Mam Donni, and Mam Donnie of course, is 1197 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,759 Speaker 3: a communist, and Mam Donnie is also an Islamist. My gosh, 1198 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how you do those things. I mean, 1199 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 3: you've supported a lot of people who support terrorism. There's 1200 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 3: are on Mam Donni. So if you're not an Islamist, okay, 1201 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 3: I could see a pushback on that. But I've seen 1202 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 3: what you support and I have questions, by the way, 1203 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 3: noting that Islamists are a problem for a civil society 1204 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 3: is not islamophobi as Lamophobia is not a thing. Islamists 1205 01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 3: are a problem the world over, from Boko Haram to 1206 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 3: name the place. Islamists are an issue, from Bocoharam to Gaza, 1207 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 3: to name anyplace else. People who believe in Sharia, people 1208 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 3: who believe that you should submit or die. These people 1209 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 3: are an issue and cannot be compatible and are not 1210 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 3: compatible with the American way or Western way of life, 1211 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 3: with Western civilization. 1212 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 2: But there he is running for mayor in New. 1213 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 3: York and getting support and getting the screaming, I don't 1214 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 3: even know what this is. Acossio Cortes City was built 1215 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 3: by the Irish escaping famine. 1216 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 16: Italians glean fascism to the escaping Holocaust, Americans, clean sand 1217 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 16: slavery and Jim Crew, Latinos seeking a bit of life. 1218 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 16: Native people Stidney for themselves, Asian Americans coming together in Queens. 1219 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 3: You know what, Let her run for president because that 1220 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 3: that is not going to gain young men. 1221 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Nope, young men are not listening to that. 1222 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 3: You want to play in all Howard dean kind of 1223 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 3: weirdo space, with that kind of yell, with that kind 1224 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 3: of nod. 1225 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 2: You think that young men were turned off by by 1226 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:34,919 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. 1227 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 3: Good lord, nobody and I mean nobody wants to be 1228 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 3: around that. But how much did AOC remind you of 1229 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 3: Howard Dean here? 1230 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Not only are we going to New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, 1231 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:51,680 Speaker 2: We're going to. 1232 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 17: South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and 1233 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 17: New Mexico. We're going to California, Texas, Hey, New York. 1234 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 17: Are we going to South Dakota and Oregon, Michigan? And 1235 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,720 Speaker 17: then we're going to watch it to take like the 1236 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 17: White House. 1237 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bad, bad comparison to have in your life. 1238 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 3: Representative of Costia Cortes. But Mike Johnson starts talking about 1239 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 3: the Democratic support for the socialist Mom, Donnie. 1240 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 11: And I'll give you Exhibit B as to why this 1241 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 11: is so true. On Friday, there was a little bit 1242 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,520 Speaker 11: of a seismic shift in politics. 1243 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,640 Speaker 4: All of you noticed it. 1244 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 11: Over the weekend, we saw our clearest sign yet that 1245 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 11: this radical insurgent movement in the Democrat Party is succeeding 1246 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 11: and they are ending what has always been known as 1247 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,719 Speaker 11: the Democrat Party in America. After a month's long pressure 1248 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 11: campaign from the far left House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, 1249 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 11: who finally relented. He gave in, and he gave his 1250 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 11: endorsement to the socialist running to be mayor of New 1251 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 11: York City. The House Democrats have chosen aside. They were 1252 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 11: forced to by that far left that they're so terrified of, 1253 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 11: and they've shown the world with they really believe there 1254 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 11: is no longer a place for centrist and moderates in 1255 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 11: their party. The candidate that they have endorsed, the Mamdami, 1256 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 11: is somebody who we've talked about a lot from this podium. 1257 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,440 Speaker 11: He's sympathized with Hamas and openly embraced anti Semitic language. 1258 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 11: He has called to quote seize the means of production 1259 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,879 Speaker 11: because he is a Marxist. He's called to abolish our borders, 1260 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 11: to abolish and end immigration enforcement, to defund the police, 1261 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 11: and to legalize prostitution, among a long list of hits 1262 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,919 Speaker 11: that I could share with you. Zorund Mamdami is expected 1263 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 11: to take the helm of one of the most important 1264 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 11: cities in the world and largest city in America, and 1265 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 11: he now has the full blessing of the Democrat leader 1266 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 11: in the House of representatives. It is shocking and that 1267 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 11: leader and all the other Democrats are going to co 1268 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 11: own the consequences of what they do to America's largest city. 1269 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 11: Every reporter in this room should be asking every House 1270 01:21:55,479 --> 01:22:00,439 Speaker 11: Democrat individually whether they too agree with Hakim's endorsement of 1271 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,759 Speaker 11: the Marxist agenda. It's an extraordinary moment in the history 1272 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,839 Speaker 11: of American politics. 1273 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 4: This is not the kind of history that we need 1274 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 4: to be making. 1275 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 11: What we're witnessing is truly the end of the Democratic 1276 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 11: Party as we've known it, and even some Democrats are 1277 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 11: now saying that out loud. 1278 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 4: You can see it in their interviews. I watched one 1279 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 4: last night. 1280 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 11: All this is directly related to the Democrats shut down 1281 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 11: show Why Because just like they decided to say their 1282 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,879 Speaker 11: own skin that they had to endorse the Marxist Mundami 1283 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 11: in an unprecedented move, they have also decided they had 1284 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 11: to shut down the government in an unprecedented move. No 1285 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 11: matter the painted inflicts upon hard working American people, they 1286 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 11: were simply more afraid of the Marxists in their party 1287 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 11: than they are voters. 1288 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,680 Speaker 3: And that's I think, very very accurate. I remember, the 1289 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 3: Marxists and the party are the voters. These are the 1290 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,679 Speaker 3: people that the political left created. This is the monster 1291 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 3: that they have created in the monsters we've discussed many 1292 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 3: times here over the years, has to feed. And so 1293 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 3: that's where we are at. That's where the Democratic Party 1294 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 3: is at, and there is no way back in that. 1295 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,679 Speaker 3: Nothing will change tomorrow nor today. Just like we discuss, 1296 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 3: the only way out is through. These people aren't going 1297 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,600 Speaker 3: to change. It gets more and more and more radical, 1298 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 3: it gets more and more and more ugly. 1299 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 2: The only way out is through. 1300 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 3: We've been saying this now for a while and everyone's 1301 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 3: starting to understand exactly what it means. The left isn't 1302 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 3: going to change the way it works. Did you know 1303 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 3: that that Eric Swawell, the Democrat from California who was 1304 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 3: allegedly having sex with the Chinese spy, even though I 1305 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 3: don't think he was ever capable of doing such a thing, 1306 01:23:55,040 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 3: he's not mad enough. He said, no Democrat can run 1307 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 3: for president. No Democrat can run for president unless they 1308 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 3: campaign on tearing down the new Trump ballroom. 1309 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,719 Speaker 2: You think for a moment you can. 1310 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 3: Rationalize with these people. They are so unbelievably upset by 1311 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 3: an entertainment space, an event center that Democrats would use 1312 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 3: if they had the White House that they demand that 1313 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 3: you tear it down. I've got the Washington Post of 1314 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 3: the New York Times saying, guys, this is not the 1315 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 3: end of the world. It's fine. Having a space for 1316 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,879 Speaker 3: events isn't a bad thing. And this is Eric Swaball. 1317 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,440 Speaker 3: So if you want to talk about how absolutely radical 1318 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 3: they have become, well there you go, so absolutely devoid 1319 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 3: the ravages of thought. To quote time bandits, that they 1320 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 3: think that the key to winning the White House is 1321 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 3: tearing down an event center, that the taxpayer isn't paying for. 1322 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 3: Good Lord, that these people win elections at all is 1323 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 3: beyond me. By the way, I do believe mom Donnie's 1324 01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,960 Speaker 3: gonna win the mayor's race in New York and then 1325 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take my wife for a long weekend and 1326 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna say our goodbye to the city. 1327 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 2: And that's gonna be that. 1328 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 3: We're got a couple places to eat in, we got 1329 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 3: a couple museums to see, maybe see a show, doubtful, 1330 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,880 Speaker 3: and then like, okay, goodbye. It was fun. We'll see 1331 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,719 Speaker 3: on the other side if you ever get there. They 1332 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 3: want to vote themselves out of existence. 1333 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 2: It's on them. But I think that's what's coming. But 1334 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 2: Mike Johnson bring it. 1335 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 3: To look at how radical they are. And here's more 1336 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 3: proof of how radical they are. I think you're starting 1337 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 3: to see the twenty twenty six strategy coming into play here, right, 1338 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 3: if I'm looking at if I'm reading this right, this 1339 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 3: is all about how they are approaching the midterms and 1340 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,440 Speaker 3: how they bring more people to their side. 1341 01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 2: These people are nuts, We're at Lee less crazy. It's 1342 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 2: not the best approach, but it's not bad. This is 1343 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. 1344 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 3: Why is Hunter Biden being interviewed by anybody? And if 1345 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 3: you're going to interview Hunter Biden, shouldn't be about, you know, 1346 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 3: the price of cocaine, what proper laptop maintenance, how to 1347 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 3: take bribes from foreign entities. I mean, there are only 1348 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,719 Speaker 3: so many things he knows about and has a level 1349 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 3: of expertise about, so it would be about one of 1350 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 3: those subjects, right, Tony kats Tony Katz today, good to 1351 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 3: be with you. He might know about selling access. You 1352 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 3: could you could interview Hunter Biden about how to sell 1353 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 3: access and profit. But instead, I don't know what podcast 1354 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 3: this is? Is this mediaite? Is that Tommy that's Tommy Christopher. 1355 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh good lord doing an interview with Hunter Biden. 1356 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 4: What's your marrison are where it could go? 1357 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Well, where we are? 1358 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 5: This is my nightmare scenario, and that's what I want. 1359 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 18: The thing I can say to people is this is 1360 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 18: that we're not sliding into autocracy. 1361 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 5: We're right in the in the middle of it. 1362 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,480 Speaker 18: We're there and and what what, regardless of whatever. 1363 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 5: Label you want to put on it. 1364 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 18: You know dictatorship, you know it's arts when the president 1365 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:33,479 Speaker 18: of the United States ignores uh, you know, court orders, 1366 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 18: when he acts constitutions unconstitutionally. 1367 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 5: But in a way that there's no there's no redress. 1368 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 18: For for instance, I don't believe that it was constitutional 1369 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 18: in the way in which he uh uh And did 1370 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 18: U S A I D. 1371 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 3: First things first, this guy is going to lecture to 1372 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 3: us about acting like an autocrat. Your father wasn't even 1373 01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,200 Speaker 3: running the country. You were fully aware of it. There 1374 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 3: was a cabal run in the country, pardons got signed 1375 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 3: with an auto pen. And yet Trump's the autocrat. You 1376 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 3: had a quite literally a pullep bure running in the 1377 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 3: country when your father was allegedly in office. Remarkable, what 1378 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 3: a remarkable statement. Now you don't think it's okay that 1379 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 3: you shut down USAID. As we all know, USAID was 1380 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 3: simply a slush fund for progressives and progressive minded causes, 1381 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 3: and it got funded by your tax dollars, which I. 1382 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 18: Think is going to have a greater impact of any 1383 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 18: of the foreign policy decisions that he's made so far 1384 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 18: in terms of long term impact. 1385 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,360 Speaker 5: Fourteen million people. 1386 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,560 Speaker 18: That otherwise would have led a healthy life because of 1387 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 18: the generosity as the American people, will die within the 1388 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 18: next five years. 1389 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 3: I want to say again for the record, it had 1390 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the generosity of the people. The 1391 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 3: money was taken vr tax dollars and put into programs 1392 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 3: the most of us never heard of, and if we 1393 01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 3: had heard of it, we probably wouldn't approve of it. 1394 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 3: The generosity of the American people. That's called charity and 1395 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 3: public charity and private charity. I should say, that's fine. 1396 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 3: Go give to whatever group you want, give to whatever 1397 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 3: cause you want. It's your money. This wasn't the generosity 1398 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,920 Speaker 3: of the American people. This was the fix being in 1399 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 3: five million. 1400 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,600 Speaker 18: Of those close to five million, about four and a 1401 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 18: half million of those will be children under the age 1402 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 18: of five. 1403 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 5: But by the way. This isn't like, oh, if we. 1404 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,759 Speaker 18: If we got our if we got our ship together 1405 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 18: and everybody you know, chipped in, we'd be able to 1406 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 18: figure out what some new science how to save these lives. 1407 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 18: These are lives that were already saved. They literally had 1408 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 18: taken anti recti viral medication and that was in warehouses. 1409 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 5: And they there and they're burning it. 1410 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:56,640 Speaker 3: The argument is, did you need the administration the organization 1411 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 3: to provide the help. 1412 01:29:58,640 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 2: That's the argument. 1413 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 3: You've we've got nothing here, Hunter, But I'm not surprised 1414 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 3: your hunter. 1415 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 5: That's what they're doing. 1416 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 18: And so I think, for instance, that's unconstitutional. 1417 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 5: But he did it. 1418 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 18: By the time anybody gets around directifying it, it's gone. 1419 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 5: It's done. 1420 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 3: I have no idea what it's unconstitutional about getting rid 1421 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 3: of an agency. And the answer is, I don't think 1422 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,680 Speaker 3: there's anything on an unconstitutional about it. You're upset that 1423 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:28,120 Speaker 3: a slush fund you like it doesn't exist anymore. It's okay, 1424 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 3: we can still help people. We just don't need the 1425 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 3: slush fund. We don't need the progressive enabled slush fund. 1426 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm Tony kats. 1427 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,360 Speaker 3: So as it got announced today in the conversation about redissecting, 1428 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,519 Speaker 3: which is a big deal in North Carolina did it. 1429 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 2: Of course Texas did it. 1430 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 3: Then California said we're going to engage in retribution, and 1431 01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 3: they've got this proposition out there. Indiana has been a 1432 01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 3: focus for President Trump and Vice President Vance Tony Katz 1433 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 3: Tony kas to good to be with you. 1434 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,320 Speaker 2: And it has been a big push. And today it. 1435 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 3: Got announced that the Governor Mike Brawn is calling the 1436 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 3: special session on redistricting. There will be a special session 1437 01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 3: in Indiana to discuss this and devote on this. There 1438 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 3: are some other issues that will be coming up, talking 1439 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 3: about I think tax law mirroring what's happening on the 1440 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 3: federal level. But leave that to the side. Will they 1441 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,880 Speaker 3: readdistrict in the state of Indiana. Understand that what's being 1442 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,360 Speaker 3: called for is the session to bring about a vote. 1443 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 2: No guarantee that it's going to work. None. 1444 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,040 Speaker 3: Would the map be a nine to zero map or 1445 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,560 Speaker 3: an eight one map again, don't know. There's been rumors 1446 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 3: of maps out there, but there hasn't been anything concrete 1447 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 3: because you haven't had the special session. 1448 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,120 Speaker 2: I favor the redistricting. 1449 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 3: When I favor the redistricting because the state of Indiana 1450 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 3: should play a part in the safety and the security 1451 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 3: of the nation. And you say to me, aren't the 1452 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,599 Speaker 3: people allowed to vote for whom they to vote where? 1453 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely they are, but the districts are not drawn in 1454 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,719 Speaker 3: that way. If you tell me that story and somehow 1455 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 3: you're stealing the vote from Hoosiers. They didn't steal the 1456 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 3: vote in Massachusetts. They didn't steal the vote in Illinois. 1457 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 3: They didn't steal the vote. California didn't. It's a silly argument. 1458 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 3: Redistricting is a political process where legislatures run the show. 1459 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,839 Speaker 2: So it's possible the legislature says, we're. 1460 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 3: Fine here, leave it alone. It's possible that they change 1461 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 3: the map, and the pressure is going to be on 1462 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 3: them to change the map. 1463 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 10: Me. 1464 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 3: I favor the redistricting because when Texas did it, well, 1465 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 3: Texas did it, and then California said retribution, and now 1466 01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 3: Virginia and other places are talking about this, so now 1467 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,800 Speaker 3: you have to fight in that world. You can't say, oh, 1468 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 3: we're above it. You can't say oh, it's beneath us. 1469 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 3: You can't say, well, we don't do that. No, it's 1470 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 3: mostly fair anyway, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1471 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 3: That is not the way it works. You must fight 1472 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,600 Speaker 3: the fight that is being fought, and the one that 1473 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 3: has been fought has been this one about redistricting where 1474 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 3: Democrats create these crazy districts. Remember Adam Kinsinger was on 1475 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 3: the January sixth committee, was all about going after Republicans 1476 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,240 Speaker 3: as a Republican himself, and what did the Democrats. 1477 01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 2: In Illinois do. 1478 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 3: They drew him out of his district. There is no 1479 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:29,720 Speaker 3: room in their place for people who disagree, and they 1480 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,160 Speaker 3: have drawn these districts and then they put these independent 1481 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,599 Speaker 3: commissions in place to protect their power base. And then 1482 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,679 Speaker 3: they look at you and say, why are you violating 1483 01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,040 Speaker 3: the law? Why are you trying to steal elections? Why 1484 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,120 Speaker 3: can't you just fight fair? Oh? Good lord. They want 1485 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 3: you to live by rules they don't live by. California 1486 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,360 Speaker 3: is engaged in retribution, and I believe that one must 1487 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 3: fight that every step of the way. 1488 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 2: So the governor of Indiana has called the special session. 1489 01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 3: Joe Gruiders is the chairman of the Republican Actional Committee, 1490 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 3: and so he was on my morning show before the 1491 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 3: announcement came out. But not only did we talk about that, 1492 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,679 Speaker 3: we talked about the value of redistricting and we also 1493 01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 3: talked about the idea of twenty twenty six and what 1494 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:20,240 Speaker 3: is it going to take to win. But first things first, 1495 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,520 Speaker 3: on redistricting. The chairman of the RNC, Joe Gruders. 1496 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 19: Listen, Well, I first thank you for having me on, Tony. 1497 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,839 Speaker 19: But redistricting is first and foremost through a lot of people, 1498 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 19: and we've talked to. 1499 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,479 Speaker 9: The President the Vice President. They've been actively working on this. 1500 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 19: Issue, and you know, I have full faith and confidence 1501 01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 19: that the Indiana will do the right thing at the 1502 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:43,040 Speaker 19: at the end. 1503 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 9: Of the day, and the president's taking. 1504 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 19: The lead himself, and we've sent some people along with 1505 01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 19: the Vice President just a couple of weeks ago to Indiana. 1506 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,360 Speaker 19: I know they've had numerous conversations, so. 1507 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,240 Speaker 4: We'll wait and see what happens. 1508 01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 3: You've had the Vice President here twice, you had a 1509 01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 3: call from President Trump. 1510 01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned do the right thing in your words. 1511 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,080 Speaker 3: In your elevator pitch to Indiana Republicans or hoodias in general. 1512 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 3: What how do you describe what the right thing is? 1513 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,800 Speaker 19: Well, listen, at the end of the day, it's basically 1514 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,080 Speaker 19: resetting the scales to what the Democrats have been doing 1515 01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,360 Speaker 19: for the last couple of decades. 1516 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,839 Speaker 9: Across the country and blue states. There's one or two seats. 1517 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 19: In Indiana that that are potentially up. 1518 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,480 Speaker 9: But again, you know what I'm focused. 1519 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 19: On on a day in, day out basis is making 1520 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 19: sure the election integory is first and foremost. We're protecting 1521 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,760 Speaker 19: the vote, we're getting out the vote, and we're doing 1522 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,360 Speaker 19: everything that we need so no matter what happens, we're 1523 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,679 Speaker 19: prepared to win the mid terms. 1524 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 2: The midterms do matter. 1525 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 3: Talking to the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Joe 1526 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,519 Speaker 3: Gruer's and I want to get to that in a. 1527 01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 2: Moment, but you have Republicans here. 1528 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:55,400 Speaker 3: It was oddly leaked last week that Republicans didn't have 1529 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,160 Speaker 3: the vote, and I thought it was a very strange 1530 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 3: story in that if I was a spokesperson for the 1531 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,720 Speaker 3: Indiana Republican Party, I would only leak that story if 1532 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 3: I was trying to put pressure on Republicans in Indiana 1533 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 3: to go in favor of redistricting. So first as the 1534 01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,720 Speaker 3: calling of the special session and then there asks to 1535 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,200 Speaker 3: be an actual vote on whether or not we redistrict. 1536 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:17,519 Speaker 2: There will be. 1537 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 3: People who say, here are these outsiders coming into Indiana 1538 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 3: trying to pressure our legislators and not letting the state 1539 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 3: decide for itself. 1540 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 2: How do you respond to those things. 1541 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 19: Well, listen, you're right, it's the state that will ultimately decide. 1542 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,639 Speaker 19: But yes, President Trump has made some calls. The Vice 1543 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 19: President's been there twice in listen. Just you know, I'm 1544 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 19: a state senator and senator in Florida, and so I 1545 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,679 Speaker 19: know what the pressure as a legilatorory that you feel. 1546 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:47,920 Speaker 19: But at the end of the day, hopefully you'll step 1547 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 19: up and do what's right. But I have full faith 1548 01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 19: and confidence in the President of Vice President and that 1549 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 19: their negotiations and their discussions are having with members of 1550 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,080 Speaker 19: the Indiana Senate and the legislature will be positive. 1551 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:04,520 Speaker 3: When they're told that you're just trying to steal elections, 1552 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 3: that you don't know how to fight. 1553 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 2: You're losing on the issues. The Indiana Democratic. 1554 01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,640 Speaker 3: Party says, you're losing on healthcare, and you're losing on this, 1555 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 3: You're losing on that. How do you engage with Republicans 1556 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,160 Speaker 3: in response to it? 1557 01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 19: Well, I would say exactly the opposite, because we're winning 1558 01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 19: on the issues. Because the thirty states at track voter 1559 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,080 Speaker 19: registration over the last four years, we're winning all thirty 1560 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 19: of those and it's not because of just the party 1561 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 19: doing its job. It's because the president is leading on policies. 1562 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 19: The first two hundred and fifty days has been nothing 1563 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 19: other than spectacular from a delivery standpoint, and I think 1564 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,000 Speaker 19: the American public sees exactly what's going on and they're 1565 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,919 Speaker 19: responding and that's why we're winning the over voter registration. 1566 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,880 Speaker 19: And so at the end of the day, like I said, 1567 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 19: what the Vice President says is this is a resetting 1568 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,719 Speaker 19: of the scales to counter what the Democrats are doing 1569 01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,719 Speaker 19: in what they've been doing for decades across the blue state. 1570 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,800 Speaker 3: So talking to Joe Gruders, he is the chairman of 1571 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 3: the Republican National Committee, and you can follow him on 1572 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,000 Speaker 3: the Twitter x at Joe Gruders g R U T 1573 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,160 Speaker 3: E R S or Joe Gruders zero one. That's his 1574 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:18,000 Speaker 3: chairman twitter x handle. Right there, we talk about the midterms. 1575 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,679 Speaker 3: I constantly am reminding people that election day is November third, 1576 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. You know, we take a look at 1577 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,960 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four election and it was a big 1578 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 3: win for President Trump, not as much for Republicans, especially 1579 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,040 Speaker 3: when you take a look at swing states where President 1580 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,720 Speaker 3: Trump won over Kamala Harris. But Sam Brown loses the 1581 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 3: Senate race in Nevada, Carrie Lake loses the Senate race 1582 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,600 Speaker 3: in Arizona, you lose the Senate race in Michigan, you 1583 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 3: lose the Senate race in Wisconsin with Hoovedan. These were 1584 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 3: these are places that we should have the sixty vote 1585 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,680 Speaker 3: majority in the Senate and we don't. So what are 1586 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 3: Republicans doing to build their name, id to build their 1587 01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:04,720 Speaker 3: opportunities with voters in this midterm which traditionally goes to 1588 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:05,920 Speaker 3: the party out of power. 1589 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:07,760 Speaker 9: Well, you're exactly right. 1590 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 19: We're two and thirty nine and last forty one cycles 1591 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,800 Speaker 19: in terms of the power of the party with the 1592 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 19: incumbentcy and it says, I mean. 1593 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 9: There's a lot of headwinds going against us. 1594 01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 19: But that being said, I think that the president's policies 1595 01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,719 Speaker 19: are going to guide us a victory. That and combined 1596 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,240 Speaker 19: with the fact that we're actively playing a role in 1597 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 19: candidate recruitment to make sure we have the right courses 1598 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:30,960 Speaker 19: for the right courses. 1599 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 9: I always say, you can. 1600 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,840 Speaker 19: Have Susan Collins running Texas and you can't Ted Cruz 1601 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,920 Speaker 19: running Maine. We're actively involved with making sure we have 1602 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 19: the right candidates in place, and we're. 1603 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,760 Speaker 9: Going to listen, We're making sure that we're going to 1604 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 9: be well funded. 1605 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,519 Speaker 19: You know, the party is firing and all cylinders because 1606 01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 19: you know, the Vice President himself is our finance chairman. 1607 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,240 Speaker 9: We're sitting on you know, ninety million dollars. 1608 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 19: I think the Democrats at twelve million, and that our 1609 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,839 Speaker 19: sister Committee to Interest and the NURCC is well funded. 1610 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,920 Speaker 19: We're not going to stop. And what we're focused on 1611 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,679 Speaker 19: a day and day out basis is making sure that 1612 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,800 Speaker 19: we're doing everything we can to protect the vote. And 1613 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,040 Speaker 19: so there's going to be no we're going to limit 1614 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 19: stand agains from happening, and we're going to we're going 1615 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 19: to be aggressive in these races. And we know exactly 1616 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 19: what races we're targeting. There's about thirteen Trumps that we 1617 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,360 Speaker 19: call the Trump thirteen. Thirteen House races that Trump won. 1618 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 19: We're Democrat member of Congress holds. On the flip side 1619 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,880 Speaker 19: of that, there's three districts that Kamala Harris won the 1620 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,240 Speaker 19: Republicans holds. Out of all the seats, there's probably sixteen 1621 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 19: super competitive seats and then if you go from there, 1622 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,000 Speaker 19: there's we have a couple of seats we have to 1623 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,840 Speaker 19: hold in the Senate, which I think we will, but 1624 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 19: then we have three great pickup opportunities. The maps look 1625 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,840 Speaker 19: amazing for us in the set, but listen, at the 1626 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 19: end of the day, we have to continue to prove 1627 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,639 Speaker 19: the American people that we're the party that's making things happen. 1628 01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,200 Speaker 9: And then I go back to presence policies and what 1629 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,120 Speaker 9: he's been doing with the p seals, But he's been 1630 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,439 Speaker 9: doing for the average every day American out. 1631 01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,920 Speaker 19: There, working, you know, day in, day out to make 1632 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 19: sure that America is positioned to move forward. 1633 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,320 Speaker 3: And sorry, Job, I don't mean to interrupt you talking 1634 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,600 Speaker 3: to Joe Gruder's chairman of the Republican National Committee, but 1635 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 3: you also said something I think is very important. Susan 1636 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 3: Collins Ted Cruz Republicans, but you know, not all Republicans 1637 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 3: are created equal. You're having the conversation of win as 1638 01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,360 Speaker 3: you can to the best of your ability in the 1639 01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:23,839 Speaker 3: places that you can, and that kind of recognition doesn't 1640 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,479 Speaker 3: always seem to get rewarded by the MAGA crowd. 1641 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 2: So how do you how do you make that happen? 1642 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 19: Listen, we have to we have to make sure we 1643 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 19: do everything humanly possible to win the midterms, because what 1644 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 19: you're seeing with the shutdowns right now is exactly. 1645 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,120 Speaker 9: What's going to be what's going to happen in the. 1646 01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,400 Speaker 19: Presidents last two years if we give them the House 1647 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,080 Speaker 19: of the Senate. So there's no option. We have to win, 1648 01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,960 Speaker 19: and so we are going to find what I always say, 1649 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,960 Speaker 19: the most conservative candidate that can win in the particular district. 1650 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 19: So yes, that means we have a wide range of 1651 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 19: candidates that may be our candidates at the end of 1652 01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,080 Speaker 19: the day representing us in the general election, but we 1653 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 19: have to win. We're going to We're going to pick 1654 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 19: out the best candidates and try to support them and 1655 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,960 Speaker 19: make sure they have the funding that they need and 1656 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,559 Speaker 19: listen to presidents on a mission he is. He is 1657 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,400 Speaker 19: fully committed to winning the mid terms. 1658 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:10,519 Speaker 2: I talked to him on. 1659 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,360 Speaker 19: An ongoing basis about what we're doing, about what we're 1660 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 19: doing on the ground, what we're doing in terms of 1661 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,559 Speaker 19: raising money, you know, what we're doing about Kennedy, the 1662 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,719 Speaker 19: recruitment and listen. He is very in tuned to everything 1663 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,840 Speaker 19: that's happening, and he understands what's at stake. And I 1664 01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 19: go back to look at what's happening in the shutdown 1665 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,200 Speaker 19: right now, and that's a preview of what the Democrats 1666 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 19: are going to do for two years if they end 1667 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:33,920 Speaker 19: up winning something. 1668 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,760 Speaker 3: Joe Gruders, he is the chairman of the Republican and 1669 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 3: National Committee. Appreciate him taking the time being with us 1670 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:41,599 Speaker 3: more to get to I'm Tony Katz. 1671 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:42,799 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. 1672 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:47,080 Speaker 3: This is a fascinating look at crime statistics. Tony Katz, 1673 01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. Find everything 1674 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,680 Speaker 3: over at Tony Katz dot com. I have it on 1675 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,720 Speaker 3: the show sheet. You can check it out for yourself 1676 01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 3: over there Tony Katz dot com. It was about what 1677 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 3: you can trust, and I do agree that it is 1678 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,360 Speaker 3: I would argue in many cases painfully obvious and certainly 1679 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:14,360 Speaker 3: in every case questionable whether or not major cities are 1680 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:20,080 Speaker 3: properly reporting crime statistics. Are they under reporting to be 1681 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,479 Speaker 3: able to show less so they could say, see everything's fine? 1682 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 2: Are they mislabeling? This brings us to. 1683 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 3: A guy who I am not I know the name, 1684 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 3: but I don't know personally, Matt van swall Swol, former 1685 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 3: nuclear scientists in the Department of Energy. 1686 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 2: So smart dude. One could assume. So his story is 1687 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:49,719 Speaker 2: that he took a look at crime data. That's the argument. 1688 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:50,679 Speaker 2: I took a. 1689 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 3: Look at crime data, and that he searched through records 1690 01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 3: of arrests in his county. You know, these things are 1691 01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,759 Speaker 3: public in from you can look through them, and every 1692 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:07,759 Speaker 3: time he came across a Hispanic individual who had been arrested, 1693 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 3: it got labeled as white. Now I have no reason 1694 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,680 Speaker 3: to think that he is lying. But if you were 1695 01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 3: able to show me how this was incorrect, I would 1696 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:17,599 Speaker 3: talk about it. 1697 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:19,880 Speaker 2: But he's got the screenshots. 1698 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:25,920 Speaker 3: And here are four different men, ages twenty two to 1699 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 3: forty six, all of them with Spanish or Hispanic names, 1700 01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 3: and all of them the race says white, when clearly 1701 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:46,000 Speaker 3: nobody would categorize as such. According to Matt van Swall, 1702 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,600 Speaker 3: there are thousands of these records. Some do say unknown, 1703 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:55,280 Speaker 3: like there's one where it's a twenty nine year old 1704 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:03,799 Speaker 3: and it says gender unknown and race unknown. It's very, very, 1705 01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,000 Speaker 3: very strange. And then you can go to Texas where 1706 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 3: they've got the public sex offender website and it says 1707 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:17,519 Speaker 3: ethnicity non Hispanic. Well, you're looking and you know that 1708 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,280 Speaker 3: that is completely not true. And here's another one that 1709 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,840 Speaker 3: says white when they're not. Here's another one that says 1710 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,320 Speaker 3: white and not. Here's another one that says race white 1711 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,439 Speaker 3: and it is not. And you say to me, hey, 1712 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 3: mistakes happen. You'll note that they only go in one direction. 1713 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,640 Speaker 3: And when they only go in one direction, it is 1714 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 3: not a mistake. It is the standard. So when you 1715 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 3: tell me or I shouldn't say you you because you 1716 01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,719 Speaker 3: wouldn't do that. They try to tell us about crimes 1717 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 3: and who's committing this and who's the real danger here? 1718 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 3: I am not going to believe this requires a lot 1719 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 3: of crowdsourcing work. We should all be working on this exactly. 1720 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,760 Speaker 3: How many mistakes are out there, how many people are 1721 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 3: being classified as white who aren't, and who is doing 1722 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,000 Speaker 3: the classification and for what purpose? 1723 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,080 Speaker 2: But we know for what purpose? 1724 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:20,639 Speaker 3: The purpose is this DEI woke can't tell the truth? 1725 01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 2: Nonsense. 1726 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 3: The purpose is to put forward the narrative that, look, 1727 01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,800 Speaker 3: how dangerous white people are as opposed to what is 1728 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,680 Speaker 3: it that we're actually dealing with, and how can we 1729 01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,639 Speaker 3: do better with it? How do we fix the problems 1730 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 3: that we have as a nation, and how in the 1731 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,840 Speaker 3: world could you fix them? If people are lying every 1732 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,400 Speaker 3: step of the way for a purpose of their own 1733 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,120 Speaker 3: ideological desires and not reality. 1734 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 2: In order for. 1735 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,760 Speaker 3: Us to solve problems, we must be honest about what 1736 01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 3: it is we're dealing with in all cases, no matter what. 1737 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,599 Speaker 3: When you don't have honesty, what possible good results could 1738 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,120 Speaker 3: you get? Find everything at tonykats dot com. Tomorrow, everyone 1739 01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 3: take care in a hap