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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 2: Good morning, you're just joining us.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people already.

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Speaker 1: I saw a school bus yesterday making the round. School

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Speaker 1: just seems to get earlier and earlier every year, so

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Speaker 1: I know some people are out on the road already

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Speaker 1: getting to practice in the stuff.

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Speaker 3: First day from my kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they're practicing getting kids on and off the

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Speaker 1: bus too. It was crazy. And you your kids are already.

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Speaker 2: There right today, first day.

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Speaker 1: I got one going back next Thursday, another one going

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Speaker 1: on the Monday before that. And that used to be

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid growing up. James school started

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Speaker 1: the day after Labor Day and then you got out

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Speaker 1: like the first week of June.

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Speaker 2: So what grades are your sons going into?

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Speaker 1: Junior and senior?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Grant's going into his junior year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Grant drove. I was in the car, but he

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Speaker 1: drove to his animal docts appoint me yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How about Grant?

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Speaker 4: Gee a boy, a call man. We got some joy

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Speaker 4: riding to do. It's still summer around here.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of hours. He still got to

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Speaker 1: get done. So maybe I employ you.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling me he got places to go, people to see.

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Speaker 5: Kevin.

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Speaker 1: You need to be driven somewhere. Let me know and

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Speaker 1: we'll send Grant over.

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Speaker 3: Well, I believe Tyler Warren will share a little story

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Speaker 3: about having to be the show for for a Colts

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Speaker 3: player when we played that interview upcoming, right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's just here to help. That's it, right, He's just

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Speaker 1: gonna if we're just here to help.

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Speaker 3: That's how some people would probably enjoy, you know, all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, the uber being you're Tyler Warren. You're

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Speaker 3: number eighty four for the Colts.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Uh you know.

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Speaker 1: It was at his first practice I had a chance

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Speaker 1: to see for the Colts yesterday because i'd been gone.

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Speaker 1: I thought that both offense and defense, James Boyd kind

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Speaker 1: of gave a little got a little yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't too bad. Yeah, I mean I had a

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Speaker 2: chance to really.

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Speaker 4: I sat down next to coach Venturi, longtime NFL coach,

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Speaker 4: and he tells me about his one year in the

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Speaker 4: CFL as well. Got to count that and also now

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Speaker 4: the radio analysts for the Colts. So I spent a

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Speaker 4: lot of time with him yesterday breaking down the game

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Speaker 4: and seeing what he saw through a coach's eyes, from

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Speaker 4: the quarterback play to the defense, and sharing his thoughts

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Speaker 4: only here on air with us yesterday, but also on

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Speaker 4: this piece I have coming out with the athletic but

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Speaker 4: from the players that I really did see, and I

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Speaker 4: mention all that because I didn't watch practice as I

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Speaker 4: normally would, but I did think that overall, both quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: continue to look a little better in pads and they

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Speaker 4: had looked without them, and that is a promising sign.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't sit up here and say that

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Speaker 4: both quarterbacks yesterday were you know, Patrick Mahomes esque or

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Speaker 2: A ball never touched the ground.

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Speaker 4: However, for what we saw Kevin the first week of

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Speaker 4: training camp, this is certainly a different looking quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get to ahead of myself and

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Speaker 4: act like it's going to change everything, but you want

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Speaker 4: to see progress, and I think progress has been made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that obviously. You know, we

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Speaker 3: could throw in the caveat of everything we say should

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Speaker 3: be met with it's still July. Yeah fair, you know, Honestly,

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Speaker 3: the Richardson stuff, I've tried my best to explain I

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Speaker 3: do see differences. You know, I've tried to make poor analogies.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they have been over the past handful of

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Speaker 3: shows of like, no, he's at least showing up to class,

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Speaker 3: He's at least doing things. Yesterday, once again I did

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Speaker 3: not see wild inaccuracy on the underneath routes that have

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Speaker 3: plagued him throughout his career. So there continues to be

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Speaker 3: differences in a positive direction for him. Now, you know

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Speaker 3: when things get real, and you might say things get

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Speaker 3: preseason opener. Maybe you got to wait all the way

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Speaker 3: till the regular season gets here on September seventh, Do

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Speaker 3: you revert to your old self? That would be probably

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Speaker 3: the biggest question I would have with Richardson. And then

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Speaker 3: if we want to take a step further, even if

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Speaker 3: this side of him trends down a positive path, you

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Speaker 3: still have the age old question with him of his health,

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Speaker 3: and that obviously is the hardest one to answer and

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Speaker 3: the one that has clearly plagued him a ton in

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Speaker 3: his two seasons. But yes, these last two days with

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Speaker 3: full pads On, I would say the quarterback battle looks

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Speaker 3: much more competent, And I didn't think the first couple

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Speaker 3: if you want to stretch it back, we're now at

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Speaker 3: kind of three or four good days. Fore, Weirdly they

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Speaker 3: both either are like good or bad. Yeah, like neither

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Speaker 3: kind of followed the same script here early on. Again,

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Speaker 3: I thought the defense had a really strong end to practice.

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Speaker 3: They really stifled Richardson in one offensive period there late,

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Speaker 3: But you know, largely I thought the quarterbacks had a

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Speaker 3: nice day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: As far as field goal kickers are concerned, we're just

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Speaker 1: kind of slogging through this for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Did you see anything yesterday where anybody starts to get separations.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Spencer Trader had the lead going into yesterday,

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Speaker 1: But I ain't seything remarkable one way or the other,

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Speaker 4: I think, based off of what Brian Mason said, I

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Speaker 4: would agree with that Spencer Trader is in the lead.

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Speaker 4: He mentioned some of the situational stuff that they went

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Speaker 4: through with the kickers and how Maddix his first day

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Speaker 4: out there kind of struggled a bit, and perhaps some

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Speaker 4: of that was just nerves and being an undrafted rookie.

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Speaker 4: But that's about it from that front. I mean, it's going,

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Speaker 4: It's about it. I all would expect it to go.

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Speaker 4: Spencer Trader, they signed into a two year deal and

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Speaker 4: they are familiar with him from last year. He did

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Speaker 4: make all five of his field goal attempts for what's that?

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Speaker 2: For what that is worth? Last year?

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Speaker 4: Now that are the very small sample size. He did

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Speaker 4: not have the efficiency. However, he did not miss inside

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Speaker 4: fifty last year. So when you bring in Spencer's Trader,

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Speaker 4: the expectation in my mind would be that he's gonna

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Speaker 4: seeing him miss some moos early on was a little

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Speaker 1: Anything else that struck here yesterday that was odd different

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, it was the longest practice of camp.

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Speaker 3: It was probably the hottest day of camp, I thought,

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Speaker 3: and I would say this about Monday's practice too. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's full pads. So now you look at the offensive

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Speaker 3: it's fair to say the old line is won that

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Speaker 3: it's I think it's really hard to really get in

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Speaker 3: the defense. So we'll see exactly how that continues to

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Speaker 3: play out. And this is kind of an under the

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Speaker 3: And for those unfamiliar with who he is, he was

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Speaker 3: Was your initial return man last year, actually lost that

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Speaker 3: used offensively last year, but I was looking at both quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: I believe Gould has caught the most passes of any

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Speaker 3: player in camp so far. I think he's just a

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Speaker 3: hair above Michael Pittman Junior in the eleven on to

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Speaker 3: eleven practice. We did see Pittman go down late in

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Speaker 3: practice with the growing injury, so we'll see about that availability.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, James, how Anthony Gould factors into

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Speaker 3: like consistent playing time. Offensively, he's Josh Downs' backup for

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Speaker 3: those that are kind of curious where he'd fall in

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Speaker 3: the order, but for those that have been out of

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Speaker 3: I would say he's shown a little bit more offensively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and anymore, you have to be really good as

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Speaker 1: doesn't want kick returns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, going back to your point, Kevin about Anthony Gould,

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Speaker 4: I think he's shown the ability, and I think we've

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Speaker 2: He looks like a receiver, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think a lot of the action that we saw last

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Speaker 4: it had to do with him being the deep threat

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Speaker 4: or just the return guy. Now we're seeing some of

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, gives him a little more diversity

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Speaker 2: So he's having a very good camp so far. And

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Speaker 4: As I criticize the guy, I will give credit what

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Speaker 4: credit is due. I thought Adi Mitchell had a pretty

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Speaker 4: good day yesterday in the team periods, particularly there was

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Speaker 4: one seven on seven where it was you know, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 4: Ady Mitchell money. He had the deep ball down the sideline.

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Speaker 4: He had another one where he just I mean, he

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Speaker 4: which makes him such a confusing player sometimes because it's

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Speaker 4: like everything but the finish. You know, I can hear

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Speaker 4: my dad telling me growing up playing basketball. You know

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Speaker 4: you got the sauce. Yeah, you got the one hundred

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Speaker 4: get by your guy and you smoke the layup. And

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Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes he just can't finish the play.

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Speaker 4: But man, when he does finish plays you saw yesterday. Now,

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Speaker 4: the question is with Adie Mitchell a lot of the

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Speaker 4: time I thought last year was can you finish the

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Speaker 4: play when you know you might We're probably gonna get hit.

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Speaker 4: That's a big question for him, I think he has

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Speaker 4: to answer, but a step in the right direction for him,

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Speaker 4: and man, he has all the physical gifts to be special.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait one day in the driveway to say

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Speaker 3: to Max bow and one hundred dollars finish ten one

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars move, let me get it right, ten cent

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Speaker 3: finish and say the old philosopher mister Boyd taught me he's.

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Speaker 1: Got a few one's, I thought, when you say it, though,

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Speaker 1: as the well, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: How saucy he is with both the move and the

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Speaker 3: absolute brick on the on the finish there, I thought.

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Speaker 3: Jim Bob Cooter, the offensive coordinator, kind of an interesting

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Speaker 3: comment in regards to Mitchell yesterday.

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Speaker 6: James.

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Speaker 3: Don't meet your heroes?

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Speaker 1: big screen.

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Speaker 4: I thought about this, and this is maybe just me

442
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Speaker 4: speaking as the person without kids, not only there's enough

443
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Speaker 4: love in the world for me to make me hold

444
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Speaker 4: an iPad up for the entire au game or high

445
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Speaker 4: school game. I see it all the time and talk

446
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Speaker 4: to the parents who do it.

447
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Speaker 2: Love you.

448
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Speaker 4: My parents would never maybe because I just wasn't that good,

449
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Speaker 4: that's part of it. But man, the amount of iPads

450
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Speaker 4: and phones I see that get recorded at these games.

451
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Speaker 4: I'm like, if I'm not paying to see you in person,

452
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Speaker 4: just let me know when you come home how it went.

453
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Speaker 7: I mean, like recording a concert or the fourth of July.

454
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Speaker 7: Look at these fireworks, some fireworks on your phone.

455
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Speaker 3: Do you just rotate the parent like you get one

456
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Speaker 3: pair in a game, Like that's part of signing up

457
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Speaker 3: for the team. Try to both go and everybody joins

458
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Speaker 3: that call. So like, you know, if somebody's got parents

459
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Speaker 3: on the FaceTime, they can't be at the game.

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Speaker 6: Something there are watching it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, I want to watch my

462
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Speaker 1: kid play stuff, and I might be on the road

463
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Speaker 1: doing a game or something like that, and I just

464
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Speaker 1: wanted to see a little bit of my sunplaying ball

465
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Speaker 1: whatever it was. But yeah, it would be tough. I

466
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Speaker 1: don't know if I could sit there though, like a

467
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Speaker 1: couple of moments it's cool.

468
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Speaker 2: But if I came on at WHOA.

469
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Speaker 4: Like man, I got to hold this phone on the

470
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Speaker 4: entire game, and like Kevin said, my wh battery juice

471
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Speaker 4: ain't that good. So I do want to pivot a

472
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Speaker 4: bit though. We had Zach Keither put out this piece

473
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Speaker 4: involving Anthony Richardson and Chris Ballard earlier today. You can

474
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Speaker 4: check that out after the show. But one of the

475
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Speaker 4: quotes in here from Ballard towards the end and after

476
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Speaker 4: Zach has kind of laid out the lay of the land,

477
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Speaker 4: which we all know. It's sort of a do or

478
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Speaker 4: die season for Anthony Richardson, whether they admit it or not,

479
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Speaker 4: and a lot of people's jobs are on the line

480
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Speaker 4: depending on how he'll play. And Chris Ballard says, do

481
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Speaker 4: you have the courage to say the path when things

482
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Speaker 4: aren't going right and believe that we're gonna come out

483
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Speaker 4: of this thing on the other end in a good way?

484
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Speaker 4: If it doesn't work, I might get my a fire,

485
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Speaker 4: but I'm willing to live with that because it's the

486
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Speaker 4: right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: So what he said in that piece is that he's

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Speaker 1: willing to wait and be patient with Anthony.

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Speaker 2: So then my follow up, Kevin, does he have enough time?

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Speaker 5: Like?

491
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Speaker 4: Understand what he's saying, And it's the I believe, the

492
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Speaker 4: only quarterback he's drafted in the first round during his tenure,

493
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Speaker 4: which honestly, most gems don't get the opportunity to draft

494
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Speaker 4: multiple But this clinging to Anthony Richardson, how real is it?

495
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Speaker 2: And does he have enough time?

496
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Speaker 4: Because I stand you wanted to succeed, but you also

497
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Speaker 4: brought in Daniel Jones. We also know Anthony Richardson's injury history,

498
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Speaker 4: and we also know that this season is a very

499
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Speaker 4: big one, no matter how much everyone tries to downplay it.

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Speaker 4: If you don't make the playoffs, who say you're gonna

501
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Speaker 4: be back? The guy who compared to Michael Jordan isn't

502
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Speaker 4: here anymore. So what does that mean for your future?

503
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Speaker 4: If Anthony just doesn't figure it out? Not from a

504
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Speaker 4: leadership standpoint or character standpoint, I think that from that part,

505
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Speaker 4: perhaps he's grown but at the bottom line, man, you

506
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Speaker 4: could be a great leader, great human, but if you

507
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Speaker 4: can't play, that means that whoever drafted you most likely

508
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Speaker 4: will not be there. So I'm just very curious about

509
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Speaker 4: your thoughts on that statement.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost seems like James and I don't want

511
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Speaker 3: to overread either party, Chris Palward or Shane Second too

512
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Speaker 3: too much here, but it almost seems like Chris Boward

513
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Speaker 3: is much more content and on however you want to

514
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Speaker 3: describe it. Anthony Richardson's starting for a third straight year,

515
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Speaker 3: whereas Shane Stiken's a little bit more open minded to

516
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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and like, I don't think it's that black

517
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Speaker 3: and white, right, but I think there is a belief

518
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Speaker 3: from Shane Styken of like, if we can just get

519
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Speaker 3: some dude that again keeps the ship afloat, simply like,

520
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Speaker 3: if we can just get that at quarterback, we can

521
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Speaker 3: make it work. Whereas Ballard's a little bit more on

522
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Speaker 3: the hey, you know again, he throws out the analogies

523
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Speaker 3: that I don't think her Apple Staples at all, but

524
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Speaker 3: the Baker Mayfield's and the Sam Darnolds of the world,

525
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Speaker 3: and he's a little bit more on that side of

526
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Speaker 3: the fence. And then when I say that out loud,

527
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Speaker 3: I think to myself, how does carle Er say, Gordon

528
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Speaker 3: view at all? Does she view the three parties all

529
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Speaker 3: tied together, Ballard, Sike and Richardson? Or does she not?

530
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Speaker 3: Or does she say, hey, just figure it out in

531
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Speaker 3: eight whoop do you do? That's exactly what we need,

532
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Speaker 3: like we need we just think in a somewhat positive

533
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Speaker 3: sort of direction here.

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Speaker 2: So because this is my next thing, when does self

535
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Speaker 2: preservation kick in?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is he It sounds like he's willing to roll with

538
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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson until death do us part?

539
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Speaker 2: Basically, But at.

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Speaker 4: Some point I would think, hey, if this other guy

541
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Speaker 4: is available, wasn't the bigges thing is availability?

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Speaker 3: But here's exciting? This is this Sichens call, that's a

543
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Speaker 3: good question.

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Speaker 2: Should probably follow up? And I would think he's going.

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Speaker 6: To tell us that good.

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Speaker 3: It's year nine for Ballot, it's year three for Stike.

547
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Speaker 3: In it just it is a weird time to be

548
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Speaker 3: a cold fan. I know I've said that phrase before,

549
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Speaker 3: and I believe that, and I will also say I

550
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Speaker 3: also think that when you draft Anthony Richson fourth overall,

551
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Speaker 3: you have to say to yourself we need to give

552
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Speaker 3: him his first healthy offseason. Well, the healthy off season

553
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Speaker 3: just happened, so like you've got to at least get

554
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Speaker 3: to that point. And again the financial ramifications of Richardson,

555
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Speaker 3: none of that is kicked in yet. The first big

556
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Speaker 3: one will kick in after this year. So get to

557
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Speaker 3: that point and you know, go back to our poll mark,

558
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Speaker 3: what did it end at? Was it like eighty five

559
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Speaker 3: to fifteen percent.

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Speaker 7: Something like that I need to check the finals.

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Speaker 3: You know, simply we asked the question, you know, who

562
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Speaker 3: would Colts who would Colts fans rather see start week one?

563
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Speaker 3: And it was overwhelming in the Richardson camp, and James,

564
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Speaker 3: you've been out there every day, you know, you hear

565
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Speaker 3: the crowd. It's different when Richardson makes a good play

566
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Speaker 3: versus Jones. So I think everyone's kind of in the

567
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Speaker 3: camp of, you know what, I'd rather see Richardson just

568
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Speaker 3: get clarity on it one way or the other and

569
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Speaker 3: move on from there. Whereas again, I think Stichen's a

570
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Speaker 3: little bit more in the camp of like, boy, I

571
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Speaker 3: don't know if Daniel Jones can just be boring but

572
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Speaker 3: not turn it over, maybe we can scratch our claw.

573
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Speaker 3: Scratching claw in the way end of the postseason eighty.

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Speaker 7: Two percent at Anthony Richardson's seventeen point six at Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that's clear, and you started the conversation

576
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Speaker 1: with that, whether it's Shane Stikeen, whether it's Chris Ballard,

577
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Speaker 1: they've got to find a way to make the playoffs.

578
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Speaker 1: Whether it's Daniel Jones, whether it's Anthony Richardson, whether it's

579
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Speaker 1: a combination of the two, they've got to find the

580
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Speaker 1: to get into the postseason because if they don't, I'm

581
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Speaker 1: pretty sure that Ballard's probably not going to be here

582
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Speaker 1: after this coming season, and I don't know what that

583
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Speaker 1: means for Shane Stikeen either, But they've got to whoever

584
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Speaker 1: they decide on, whoever gets the job, or maybe it's

585
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Speaker 1: a combination of the two. If they don't make it

586
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Speaker 1: to the postseason, I think jobs are in big jeopardy.

587
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Speaker 1: There's a there's a new sheriff in town, and she

588
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Speaker 1: may not be as married to the general manager as

589
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Speaker 1: her father was. That's the sense that I get. And

590
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Speaker 1: as you guys saw, she's right out there with the

591
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Speaker 1: guys watching practice every day, taking it all in. And

592
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Speaker 1: we talked to Rick Ventura yesterday, who vouches for her.

593
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Speaker 1: She knows what she's looking at, she knows what she

594
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Speaker 1: wants to see. She was brought up that way, So

595
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Speaker 1: I think I think her her presence and the way

596
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Speaker 1: things have shaken out, they either make the playoffs or

597
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Speaker 1: they don't. And I think it's a it's it's probably

598
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Speaker 1: an ultimatum, I would think in some ways, whether it's

599
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Speaker 1: un spoken or not, those guys have got to find

600
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Speaker 1: a way to get better.

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Speaker 3: You think you're making the playoffs cures all.

602
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Speaker 1: I think it's a big step. You can make a

603
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Speaker 1: case that hey, look we made these moves, we've done this,

604
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Speaker 1: we've done that, we've made progress. Let's finish it out.

605
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Speaker 1: You can at least make the case at that point

606
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Speaker 1: in time. But how many more times can you make

607
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Speaker 1: the case?

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Speaker 5: Kevin?

609
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Speaker 1: If you just never get out of neutral?

610
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Speaker 3: Yeah again, part of me looks at and says, would

611
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Speaker 3: making the playoffs just be enough? You know, she was

612
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Speaker 3: what thrust in the position in May. If she was

613
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Speaker 3: thrust in that position in December, January, are those parties

614
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Speaker 3: still here?

615
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Speaker 2: Good point?

616
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Speaker 1: It's it's going to be interesting to watch, and we

617
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Speaker 1: all just hope one way or another that whatever they choose,

618
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Speaker 1: it works out to be well, and it works out

619
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Speaker 1: that they get to the playoffs, and certainly we want

620
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Speaker 1: to see him win a playoff game. You know, there

621
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Speaker 1: were a couple of games last year, I mean, heading

622
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Speaker 1: in the last four weeks of the season, they were

623
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Speaker 1: right there in the mix and they just couldn't get

624
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Speaker 1: it done. Yeah.

625
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Speaker 4: Well, more for you after the break, But certainly I

626
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Speaker 4: have more thoughts on this topic as well as all

627
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: things coach, So stick with us here on one seven

628
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: five to the fan, I will start here. We actually

629
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Speaker 4: have a question from our YouTube chat that I found

630
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 4: very interesting, and Dustin says, the conversation regarding the quarterbacks

631
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: seems like it's no longer quote we need to see

632
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: if he can regarding Anthony Richardson, it has shifted to

633
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: basically we need to confirm that he can't be the

634
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: guy moving forward. So your perspective, Stephen, where does Anthony's

635
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: year three rank among the things that this team sort

636
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 4: of has to figure out when it comes to their future.

637
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: Do they have more time like Chris ballad has insinuated

638
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: or is this or make or break here?

639
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Speaker 5: Well, I'll start by saying I actually have seen the

640
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 5: Oklahoma drew in NFL practice because I've been around for

641
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 5: a while, but we won't be seeing that tomorrow. In

642
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: terms of Anthony, Yeah, interesting question. I actually would say this.

643
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: I think he has answered some questions so far. Now

644
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: let me be Claire. I don't think you can you can,

645
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 5: you know, make a decision on a guy, you know,

646
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 5: based on what we've.

647
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Speaker 6: Seen so far.

648
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Speaker 5: You know, it's a it's a week, right, and it's

649
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: it's practice and only a couple of days in past.

650
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: But I think we have more answers than questions so far,

651
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 5: which is good. It's it's going in the right direction

652
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: for him. And I think the other thing that he

653
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: has done is he has answered some other questions I

654
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: think off the field, which is is he going to

655
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 5: put in the work? It seems like he has. Again,

656
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: none of this ensures that this is going to be successful.

657
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: I mean still TBD. But when it comes to working

658
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: on his technique and he got in better shape even right,

659
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Speaker 5: things like that, I think those are all very positive

660
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: science as it relates to like you specifically saying do

661
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Speaker 5: they have more time? And you know, in terms of

662
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: figuring this out, it is still I think the number

663
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: one question, because quarterback is what has held them back.

664
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: I mean Shane Stiken, I think, if I'm mistaken, he

665
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 5: has a five hundred record without any quarterback consistency. So

666
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 5: what's holding the Colts back? Quarterback play. To get any

667
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 5: quarterback consistency, they could be a playoff team. So whether

668
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: that's with Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, or someone else in

669
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: the future, they have to achieve that. Otherwise nothing else matters.

670
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: So they don't really have time they need to figure

671
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: this out, But I do think it's trending in the

672
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: right direction.

673
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Speaker 3: Stephen Holding find his work at ESPN. He is with

674
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. Steven as best

675
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: you can guess, a week from tomorrow, they'll play a

676
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: preseason game in Baltimore. What do you envision for Richardson

677
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: and Jones? Each of them get a quarter? Do each

678
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: of them get a quarter in each of the preseason games,

679
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: Like maybe Richardson starts next Thursday, Jones the following week

680
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: against Green Bay, and then maybe week three. You expand

681
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: that a little bit more, maybe you've named a starter

682
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: by then. How do you kind of map out what

683
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: the preseason playing time looks like for these two.

684
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: Well, I think the thing you can't do is act

685
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: like you would when you when you have a quarterback

686
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: that's already determined, you know, in a couple series or

687
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: something like that. I think you have to let them

688
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: play a little bit. You know, practice is not enough

689
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: to make these determinations if you want the full picture.

690
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 5: I mean, they got to play in the preseason games,

691
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 5: and depending on how much the opponent plays their starters

692
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: and their key players, it may not be a great,

693
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: you know, a great indicator, but but you need all

694
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: all the available evidence you can get. So I think

695
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: you have to play them somewhat extensively, and you know

696
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: how that looks. I don't know, I guess I guess

697
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: my expectation is one guy starts, the other. One guy

698
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: starts one game, you know, plays more, The next guy

699
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: start starts, the next game, plays a little more, and

700
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Speaker 5: then I don't know what you do week three. I

701
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: guess that depends they They have tended to kind of

702
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: I guess, not make a big deal about game three,

703
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: but then there have been times when they have so

704
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: I don't know what the what the philosophy there is yet,

705
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 5: I don't think teams have a have a real philosophy

706
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: on game three. Yet you know, since we've gone to

707
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: seventeen games, it really varies widely.

708
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: But anyways, they can't treat it like their other teams

709
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: given their quarterback situation.

710
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah that's fair. But anyway, just sticking to the quarterback topic,

711
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: I think that they're they're gonna have to play I think,

712
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: more extensively than you would under normal circumstances. I just

713
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: think you have to get that additional look at them,

714
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: and and you got to, you know, look at they're risky. Yeah,

715
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: but I think you have to do what you have

716
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: to do. This is the path they've showed. They've chosen

717
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: to have a quarterback competition, so dang it, you got

718
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: to have the competition.

719
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: We were just talking about this before you came on.

720
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: We all know that under Jim Orsay, a lot of

721
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: leash given to Chris Ballard and I know Shane Stikeen's newer,

722
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: but I see Carlie ers Garden right out there watching

723
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: every play, watching every practice. How successful does this team

724
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: need to be for those guys to continue to keep

725
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: their jobs. Do you think that this new new look,

726
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: new feel that the Colts.

727
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: Have, you know, I really do think it depends on

728
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: what it looks like as much as you know the

729
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: number of wins. You know, Look, I mean a ten

730
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: win season or a nine or ten win season can

731
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: take different shapes, right, And I think that that really

732
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: will determine it. But I feel like the playoffs. I'm

733
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: not going to say it's playoffs or bus but I mean,

734
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: I just think after the last few years. I mean,

735
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: you heard Chris Ballard talking the other day. I asked him,

736
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: you know, Chris Man, you know, four years without the playoffs,

737
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: I mean, what are we doing here?

738
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 6: You know?

739
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: And and to his credit, he was like, this is

740
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: the longest I've gone without ever making the playoffs. And

741
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: he's like, I'm sick about it. And and I think

742
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: you heard that repeated throughout the organization. I think players

743
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: were echoing the same the same sentiment like this is crazy,

744
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: Like where what kind of team are we? And at

745
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: some point, I mean that that has to be the standard.

746
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 5: You have to be a team that's competing for the

747
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 5: playoffs every year. Last year they were actually less in

748
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: contention than they were the year before. So I think

749
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: you have to get to the playoffs and then Let's

750
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: see what it looks like. Let's see what this is

751
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: the big thing, the trajectory. What is the trajectory of

752
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 5: the team. Last year's trajectory at the end of the season,

753
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: I thought it was it was not a positive trajectory.

754
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: So let's see what that looks like this year and

755
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: that you know, look at it. Maybe it's a vibes thing, right,

756
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: I mean, what are the vibes? Are they up or down?

757
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: And I think that's going to matter a lot.

758
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: To piggyback off that Stephen, when Chris Ballard said, you know,

759
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: this is the longest I've been without making the playoffs.

760
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: I really want to follow up and say, well, yeah,

761
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: most people don't get a chance to miss it four

762
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: times in a row and keep their job going into

763
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 4: a ninth season. I mean, that's just the honest truth.

764
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: But to pivot a bit to more of the on

765
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: field action from a enticing but yet infuriating at times,

766
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: standpoint your thoughts on Adi Mitchell, because yesterday he was bawling.

767
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: The day before that maybe not so much.

768
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: So where does he stack up in his wide receiver

769
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: room so far, and how do you see him potentially

770
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: fitting into it?

771
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: So here's the thing about ad. Did you go back

772
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: to last year's training camp, and then I would add

773
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 5: this spring in OTAs fantastic. Okay, Like when we watched

774
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: him in training camp last year, we're like, man, you

775
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: know what, they might have a steal here. And then

776
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: we got to the regular season and it was as

777
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 5: if he was new to the game of football. Okay,

778
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 5: I don't know what that was. He looked completely overmatched,

779
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: deer in the headlights. He didn't belong out there. I'm

780
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: just being blunt. I can't help it. But and so

781
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: I say all that to say, now we come into

782
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 5: training camp and this is mostly last week. But last

783
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 5: week the player I saw was not this great practice

784
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: player that I had been seeing, you know for the

785
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: last year. It was awful. Dropped after drop after drop.

786
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 5: I mean just awful. Just look completely unprepared, unfocused. That's

787
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: not okay. Body language not great at times as well,

788
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: which is a different argument or different issue. He has

789
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 5: come back, I think the last two days, and been

790
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: much sharper and much more reliable. He's been good, frankly,

791
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 5: so that that's the practice player I've seen. But what

792
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: I brought I brought up last week for this reason though,

793
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: even when he's been good in practice, it hasn't translated

794
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: the games. So he better be amazing in practice if

795
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 5: I'm going, if I'm the coach, if I'm going to

796
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: put him out there in key situations and ask him

797
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: to make plays for me, because frankly, I think they

798
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 5: gave him almost too much rope last year. I understand

799
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: believing in the guy and given second chances, I agree

800
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: with all that, but when games are on the line

801
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: and a guy doesn't come through time after time, at

802
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: some point you got to say, all right, you're gonna

803
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: go have a seat and we'll deal with you later.

804
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 5: And they did not do that, and I thought that

805
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: was strange. I mean, at some point there has to

806
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: me some accountability. I don't know if there was enough

807
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: with ad Mitchell. He's got to earn it.

808
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: Frankly, Stephen Steven, do you think we hear it all

809
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: from Carly ors Gordon when the joint practice rolls around

810
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: with Green Bay typically here Dad spoke quite often. I

811
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: feel like during those joint practices, regardless of the years

812
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: or even the TV booth appearance that Jim Mercy would

813
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: make during the preseason with Greg Gregshaw and Rick Venturrey.

814
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: You think we hear from her at either of those

815
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: spots before the season starts.

816
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 5: Well, in a shocking development, the expectation that she's going

817
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: to talk a lot less than her dad did. And

818
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: I think the answer to your question is, we really

819
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: don't know, and you know, and I'm sure you've had

820
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 5: conversations with people. The feedback I've gotten is we'll see.

821
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: I don't think it is top of mind for her

822
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: to discuss, you know, or to think about let me

823
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 5: free phrase, to think about when she's going to address

824
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: the media. I mean, I still commend her and her

825
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 5: sisters for having that initial press conference. Frankly, I thought

826
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 5: that might take longer than it did, you know, after

827
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: their father's passing, and to their credit, they came out.

828
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: They were an open book. They answered all the questions.

829
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: That was great. And I actually, you know, not how

830
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: having talked to Carla a lot over the years, just

831
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: because she's not a very public person, I didn't know

832
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: what to expect. And frankly, I was very impressed with

833
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 5: how she handled herself. And now I'm thinking, you know what,

834
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: you should do this more and but I don't anticipate

835
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: it I think that she will do it, you know,

836
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: as you know, just from time to time. But I

837
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 5: don't think it'll be impromptu all the time like her dad.

838
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: I don't think we'll be you know, cornering her outside

839
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: the locker room after games. I don't anticipate all that.

840
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see, we'll see it could, it could evolve.

841
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: But that's not the carlier say. I anticipate, even though

842
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 5: I think everything indicates that she's a wonderful person, but yeah,

843
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: that's just not her style.

844
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Hold her.

845
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: If they won the season opener, I need her to

846
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: be standing next to a private jet afterwards, saying this

847
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: is how we do things. It's new around here. Please

848
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: first season opening wins in twenty thirteen. But the last

849
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 4: one I have for you.

850
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: I would I would die. I would I would fall

851
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: over and be deceased. It would be the funniest thing

852
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 5: in Cold's history.

853
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: Let's just say, I'm not holding my breath for it.

854
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: That's for sure. Last one from me. We've had a

855
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 4: chance to talk to lu and Roumo about this defense,

856
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: and you know, I think the offense is kind of

857
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 4: bounced back over the last couple of days in pads. However,

858
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: there have still been some plays made, you know where

859
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that those were necessarily scenarios that would

860
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: have been looking the same last year, given Gus Browley's

861
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: defensive scheme. So what have you liked or maybe disliked

862
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: about what you've seen from that defense so far?

863
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: No, I love it. I think we have maybe been

864
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: hard on the quarterbacks, you know those that first week

865
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: or so. The quarterbacks have been much better the last

866
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: couple of days. That's a great thing, much more efficient

867
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: and all that. But look, I mean the passing excuse me,

868
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: the completion rates were not good for several days there,

869
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 5: and I don't think that was an accident. I think

870
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 5: that the windows are tight. I think that the coverage

871
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: is aggressive and it's making things tougher on the quarterbacks. So,

872
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see if they can do that kind

873
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: of thing against you know, the elite quarterbacks they are

874
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: going to face this year, you know, the the Mahomes

875
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: and the Justin Herberts, et cetera. But but for now,

876
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 5: it does seem to be making life tough on quarterbacks.

877
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: I really do think it's a great sign. I thought, look,

878
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: this is not shade on Gus Bradley. Uh, there's there

879
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: are different tactics and different styles defense, clearly, right. But

880
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: but but I do think there is something to be said,

881
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: uh for for challenging receivers and challenging the quarterback and

882
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: making throws tougher and and they're doing that here. They're

883
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: doing it, and we'll let's see, let's see what it

884
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: looks like when it's all put together and and out

885
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 5: there at full speed and they got to tackle, which

886
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 5: they have been not great at. But right now, I

887
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: think what they're doing is refreshing and we've not seen

888
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: this for a long time. And they have the personnel

889
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 5: to do it too, which is the key, right. I

890
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: don't care what style you're playing. Personnel is the first

891
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: thing that matters. And they have the personnel and a

892
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: style to suit them, and it's working I think so far.

893
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Steven is always good to hear from you, man. It

894
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: was good to see you yesterday, and we'll keep in touch.

895
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, talk to you guys.

896
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end from Penn State, joining

897
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: us here in the Fan Morning Show. Good morning, How

898
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: do you like the heat and humidity of Indianapolis in

899
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the day.

900
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 6: It's good. No, starting to get used to it.

901
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 8: Felt it a little bit you know in April and May,

902
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 8: but but it's kicking them now.

903
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 6: But it's been good. I think it's been you know,

904
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 6: only going to benefit us in the long run.

905
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: There you go.

906
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Full pads means what.

907
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 8: Do you that's you know, as real as as practice

908
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 8: can be to a game. And that's really when you

909
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 8: find out, you know, what's your cable love on the

910
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 8: football field. And I think it's you know, probably our

911
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 8: most important practice. So I think it's been you know,

912
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 8: good star Tusk getting pads out here and it's been

913
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 8: really really fun.

914
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: Jim Bob Cooter said something earlier that he felt like

915
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: full pads would accentuate a few more of the characteristics

916
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: to your game. What do you feel like those care

917
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: choristics are when the full pads come on that you

918
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: kind of take it to another level.

919
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 8: I think kind of in general, the offense, the toughness

920
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 8: can show a little bit more and kind of just

921
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 8: the physicality that that we play with as a group.

922
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 8: So I think that's the biggest thing that can kind

923
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 8: of shine through when you're when you're playing in full pads.

924
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: So Tyler.

925
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: Coming into camp, what has been the biggest sort of

926
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: learning curve for you when you go from obviously playing

927
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: in college, so now every guy on this scene probably

928
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: was the man where they came from in college.

929
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, just like you said, in general, the

930
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 8: pace of play and the you know, everybody's good out

931
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 8: here and everybody's a professional, And I think the biggest

932
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 8: thing for me has been kind of the tighter windows

933
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 8: that is considered open. You know in the college and NFL,

934
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 8: it's you know, you never really wide open unless you know,

935
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 8: something crazy happens, so it's a lot of bang bang

936
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 8: catches and stuff like that. So it's kind of been

937
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 8: the biggest thing I've been focusing on getting better at.

938
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 6: You know, through this camp.

939
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: What do you think has helped you get more involved

940
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: in the offense over the last couple of days, some

941
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 4: downfield opportunities and things like that.

942
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 8: I think it's just you know, doing our jobs is

943
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 8: tight end. Some days it might be you know, a

944
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 8: little more run heavy, and some days we might be

945
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 8: catching more passes. So I think it's just kind of

946
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 8: the flow of the offense.

947
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: You haven't played a regular season game yet, but you've

948
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: had OTAs and now you've had a week of camp

949
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: and I felt anything different than you expected.

950
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: No, I'm just I'm just learning as I go.

951
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 8: You know, I don't really know what to expect, so

952
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 8: so as I you know, learn, you know, don't let

953
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 8: stuff happen twice if I do make mistakes. But but

954
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 8: really it's kind of roll with the punches and learn

955
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 8: while you're here because it's you know, it's our first

956
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 8: year doing this as rookies.

957
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 6: But it's been good. We're talking to you.

958
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 3: A fellow draft made JT. Tom Allow, and he mentioned

959
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: how he felt like he needed four shopping carts to

960
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: get all the snacks for the D line room. In

961
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: your shopping experience, do you feel like a mother of

962
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: seven kids for the tight end room you have to

963
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: do anything like that?

964
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 8: I will say the tight ends, it's a little it's

965
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 8: better to shop for the tight ends. It is the

966
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 8: D line, So that wouldn't that wasn't too bad. And

967
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 8: I think they were happy with the with the snacks

968
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 8: I brought him for the room. But but yeah, I

969
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 8: definitely am happy to be a tight end when it

970
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 8: comes to, you know, the snack situation. So the tight

971
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 8: end snacks a little bit of everything, uh, which is

972
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 8: kind of nothing super healthy if that's what you're looking for.

973
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 8: But but yeah, really just the basic snacks, cookies, chips,

974
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 8: some some gummy stuff like that.

975
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: So Michael Pittman Junior had told us that he needed

976
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: a ride touble target for one of these days and

977
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: you so can you take us through that experience? He

978
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: gave us his perspective, He said, you were great and

979
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: probably get you five stars if you were an uber.

980
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: But from your perspective as a rookie, can you not

981
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: answer that call?

982
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: Well, that's the problem.

983
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 8: I answered it right, So if I didn't answer it,

984
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 8: I might have been all right. But but no, I

985
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 8: got got a lot of respect for pitt and he's

986
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 8: been you know, a great you know, vetting the program

987
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 8: for me and it's helped me out some things. So

988
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 8: I'm you know, I'm willing to drive him five minutes

989
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 8: down the road if that's what he needs. But yeah,

990
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 8: that's that's part of the duties, right as a rookie,

991
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 8: you gotta you gotta do some stuff for the older guys.

992
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 6: But but that was fun.

993
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: So here you are a tight end. I had read

994
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: somewhere where you're the high school quarterback that dreamed to

995
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: be in a full back and you end up being

996
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: a tight end. Kind of take me through that that metamorphosis,

997
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: that process.

998
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it uh the basketball film out of

999
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 8: high school help. That's something that that the tight end

1000
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 8: coaches really liked. But but it did take me a

1001
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 8: while kind of to get the fundamentals of block. And

1002
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 8: I feel like I always kind of had the want

1003
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 8: to do the blocking, but it's a lot more that

1004
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 8: goes into it than just, you know, wanting to throw

1005
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 8: your head in there. So I think that was the

1006
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 8: biggest thing for me when I was first switching the

1007
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 8: tight end was was really how how big a difference

1008
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 8: you know, your hand in an inch different position makes.

1009
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: How much this having had that experience at quarterback go

1010
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: help you be in a tight end.

1011
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it helps just because we do you know,

1012
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 8: we do a lot within the offense, moving around emotions

1013
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 8: and different different positions. So I think kind of just

1014
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 8: understanding plays as a whole has helped me be able

1015
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 8: to do a lot of different stuff within within the offense.

1016
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: Any individual goals for Tyler Warren here as a rookie, no,

1017
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean as far as far as I go as

1018
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: an individual, just being being the best teammate and making

1019
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: sure I'm doing my job and I'm helping the offense

1020
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: and never you know, holding them back or doing anything

1021
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: to cause negative plays or stuff like that. I do

1022
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: want to go back to draft night, just briefly. I

1023
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: believe the Cult War are your only top thirty visit

1024
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: and if I'm not mistaken, So, did you think that

1025
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: that was going to be the spot you ended up

1026
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: when Thursday night rolled around or what was the first

1027
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: thirteen picks or so.

1028
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, I mean you have you have an idea

1029
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 8: of then you really don't know when you're sitting there

1030
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 8: that night and you're just waiting to waiting to get

1031
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 8: a call. But I did, you know, I felt good

1032
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 8: about Indian I was hoping that's where I ended up,

1033
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 8: and so it worked out really well.

1034
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: But but yeah.

1035
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 8: As much as you might think you know that night,

1036
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 8: you're kind of just you're really just sitting around waiting

1037
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 8: and it's a it's a weird feeling, but I'm glad

1038
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 8: it worked out the way it did.

1039
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Tyler.

1040
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: We've seen a few of your one handed catchers throughout

1041
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: some of the team periods. Obviously, you're not expecting those

1042
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: throws to happen. But is it instinct? Is it town?

1043
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Do you work on catching bad passes or off target passes.

1044
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's just kind of when the ball's

1045
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 8: in the air, it's you know, it's supposed to be mine.

1046
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 8: I'm going to do everything I can to catch it.

1047
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 8: So I think that's kind of you know, the mentality

1048
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 8: you have as a receiver is you know, it's your

1049
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 8: ball in the air, so you gotta do whatever you

1050
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 8: can to catch it.

1051
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: And do you give a little grace because you were

1052
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 4: a quarterback at one point, You're like, you know what,

1053
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: I probably didn't put it everything where I needed to

1054
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: put it when I was in high school.

1055
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 6: No, I was. I was not a perfect pass by

1056
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 6: any means.

1057
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 8: But but they got a lot going on, so so

1058
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 8: I mean saw our job to make them right.

1059
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, getting getting shut from behind, or

1060
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: you have to step up, or you gotta throw on

1061
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: a guy, you go through a guy. Uh, last thing

1062
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: for me, how have you found in d so far?

1063
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 8: It's been hot since I got to camp. But uh,

1064
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 8: but no, I like it a lot and there's a

1065
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 8: lot of you know, cool areas around the city and

1066
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 8: the downtown is more my my style of downtown.

1067
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 6: Right.

1068
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 8: It's not a it's a big city, but it's not

1069
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 8: like a New York city, right, so you can still

1070
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 8: be down there. It's not super crowd. So I really

1071
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 8: like it a lot, and I you know, love the

1072
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: community around it.

1073
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: Have you run into fellow big ten a Caitlin Clark yet,

1074
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: though I have not.

1075
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 6: Okay, that'd be cool though.

1076
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: Last one on my front, I know you were behind

1077
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: a lot of NFL pros in just your tight end

1078
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: room at Penn State.

1079
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: How did that prepare you for the next level? Just

1080
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: kind of.

1081
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: Waiting your turn and then realizing when you did wait

1082
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: your turn, you're right behind future NFL player?

1083
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that.

1084
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 8: You know, that's part of playing tight end at Penn State, right,

1085
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 8: You're going to play with with other guys that are

1086
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 8: going to play in the NFL.

1087
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 6: And I think it only made me better.

1088
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 8: I got to learn from them and and you know,

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Speaker 8: compete against them for a spot and it worked out

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Speaker 8: the way it did. But uh, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 8: that just kind of speaks to, you know, what Penn

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Speaker 8: State does as recruiting tight ends and how they develop them.

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Speaker 8: So I'm I'm happy. That's why I, you know, went

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Speaker 8: to play tight end.

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Speaker 6: Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Thank thanks so much for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Don't be a stranger. This time goes on. We'll talk

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Speaker 6: to you soon, yes, sir, appreciate y'all.