1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: Sure, there's no signed deal yet, but Wallmakers voted nearly unanimously, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: sending a message that Indiana wants the Chicago Bears and 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: they're not afraid to use some creative financing to make 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: it happen, creative financing being the keyword there. So this 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: happened yesterday, voting overwhelmingly ninety five in favor for oppose, 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: the Indiana House of Representatives approved Senate Bill twenty seven, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: and that would set the stage for the Chicago Bears 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: to come to Hammond. And now this is going to 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: go back to the Senate and if they approve it, 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: it'll head to the Governor's desk. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, more and more details keep coming 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: out about this as this bill advances. And what I 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: find the most interesting part of this is there seems 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: to be a little bit of a funding gap. They'll 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: tell you there isn't it a little bit? Well, you know, 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Indiana is going to contribute about a billion dollars to this, 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: and it's going to be done through these new use 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: taxes that are lying out in this bill. And there's 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: going to be a food and beverage tax and it's 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: estimated that'll you know, earn about ten million dollars a year. 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: And then there's going to be you know, a hotel tax, 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: and that'll be in about another five or ten million 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: dollars a year. And then there's going to be a 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: tax on every ticket to any event, whether it's the 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Bears or not in that stadium of twelve percent, and 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: that looks like that'll be about another ten to fifteen 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: million dollars. So you've got about this thirty five million 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: dollars a year in taxes that they've lined up. But 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: the state is going to be spending a billion dollars 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: to build the stadium. There seems to be a bit 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: of a shortfall. And then there's this general catch all 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: that people are talking about of well, there'll be some 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: other taxes in the future. Maybe we'll steal some money 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 2: from the Indiana Toll Road that's up in the northern 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: part of the state, or maybe we'll levy some income 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: taxes to northern Indiana or do some other things. That's 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: really the problem I see is that the math isn't 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: lining up, and the part that's left unsaid is is 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: are these additional potential taxes that'll come down the road. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've got conservatives talking about economic development and 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: taxpayer is getting a return on investment and they're just 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: hoping that this will lead to economic development, jobs and 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: also infrastructure improvements. Is very much like putting the cart 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: before the horse in this situation. Again, I go back 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: to creative financing. That is the key word there, because 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: they don't have it all the bottom line, as you mentioned, 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: not adding up. 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't see or at least what we're being 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: told we added up. 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Again. 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Sure, there's this massive funding gap that I see there 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: because the math isn't working for me, and their answer 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: to it is this fuzziness of Oho, there'll be other 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: taxes that will be included there, and of course my 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: guess is those are going to be the most extreme 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: taxes and the ones that people will be the most 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: upset about. And I think all of this is being 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: done at the end of the day. Again, my prediction 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: is the Chicago Bears will stay and they'll choose Arlington Heights. 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: They'll go to Arlington Heights because I just do not 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: see the Bears. And again, the Chicago Bears have been 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: owned by the Hallis and the Macafski family since they 63 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: were started one hundred years ago. It's the same family 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: that started it that runs it today. They've been ingrained 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: in Chicago. I think that for them personally, it would 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: be too difficult for them to pull the trigger and 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: move the Bears out of the city of Illinois. Shoot, 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be hard for them to 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: even pull out of the city of Chicago and Soldier Field. 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be tough for the mccaskey's 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: to do. But I think the city of Chicago left 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: them no other choice. I mean, there was nothing they 73 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: could do there. So they bought this option in Arlington 74 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: Heights where they bought the old Arlington Heights Racetrack, and 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: they're going to build there and eventually I think they'll 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: make that final decision. By the way, it looks like 77 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: that there is a committee meeting and vote that is 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: scheduled in the Illinois legislature for tomorrow. Now we know 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: what happened last time Illinois legislator had a committee vote. 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: They canceled that because it was the Indiana vote that 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: was happening the same day. So we'll see if that 82 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: one happens. But if it does take place, we could 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: get some more information from the Illinois lawmakers as early 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: as tomorrow. 85 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: And that could definitely sway a decision for the Bears. 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Of course, you've got no formal, signed deal with the Bears. 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't exist just yet