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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, and welcome to another Wednesday, another

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Speaker 1: hump day. Later, the University of Houston's doctor Gerald Horn

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Speaker 1: more about that as well. Doctor Horn will tackle several

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Speaker 1: issues as usual, including the Gaza peace Agreement, the government shutdown,

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Speaker 1: and more. Before doctor Horn, writer Simeon Booker Muhammad will

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Speaker 1: provide a UFO update. A momentarily financial analyst Michael Redmond

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Speaker 1: will join us. But let's get Kevin to open the

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Speaker 1: classroom doors on this Wednesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, Carl Nelson. I think I'm gonna run on

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Speaker 2: and see what the end is gonna be right, cut

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Speaker 2: to the chase exactly. Sometimes you just gotta run a

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Speaker 2: little bit faster. It's the fifteenth of October, and happy

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Speaker 2: Wednesday to everyone and Carl Nelson. Wells Fargo has donated

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Speaker 1: In the community.

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Speaker 2: External noise. Wait, hold on, keep going to hearing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not hearing it.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, man, what a morning? What a morning?

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Speaker 2: Where were you?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What's in the news this morning?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot happening actually here. In the last

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Speaker 2: quarter of the year twenty twenty five, the great artist D'Angelo,

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Speaker 2: him or familiar with yeah, his famous album Brown Sugar.

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Speaker 2: So those who were still discussing that, the people who

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Speaker 1: was I pick up with stuff like that what doctor

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Speaker 1: So you know there's a talk about you know, ange

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Speaker 1: But the sad part about that, as you know, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: to remind you that happy warrior's still a warrior, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But he's much loved in Illinois, especially in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We got. At least he's got the governor.

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Speaker 2: And Prinzker historically is a big in their heir to

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Speaker 2: He says he has national aspirations to take his fight

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Speaker 2: In other news, Trump says he may send Tomahawk missiles

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Speaker 2: Right, And it just seems that he's trying to Is

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting. First of all, just go back

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this again. It's another topic

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Speaker 2: Oh good good. And finally, I just don't want to

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Speaker 2: Judge Susan Ilston, and she's gonna hear preliminary arguments today

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Speaker 2: in a case brought by the American Federation of Government Employees,

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Speaker 2: And then again, in my opinion, Trump has blamed the

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Speaker 3: But I guess those days are gone. Huh, I'm just dreaming. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: those days ago. You're right, Obama was in president then

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Speaker 3: when he made those that proclamation. But yeah, he's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be, and people are saying, if you can bring

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Speaker 3: it with the Republicans and the Democrats. They're in your backyard,

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Speaker 3: you know, So stop get off there taking a victory

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Speaker 3: I'm throwing everything on Gerald Horn's desk right now, so

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Speaker 3: we'll let him tackle all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he's too close to see the difference.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for your time, Carl. It's the fifteenth of

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Speaker 2: October and we've got and Antel analyst Michael Ridmond standing by.

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Speaker 1: Hey, grand rising Mike, Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 5: We're in raging Carl.

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Speaker 6: How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning and I told Kevin I'll know I'm

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Speaker 1: going to learn a lot this morning between you, Dr

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Speaker 1: Horn and also Dot brother simeon book at Muhammad. But

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Speaker 1: first of all, let's let's get straight to the crypto Coney.

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Speaker 1: The volatility of the crypto market. People saying that crypto

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the crypto market.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's always been very volatile. You know bigcoin in particular.

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Speaker 6: So it's always been very volatile.

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Speaker 1: You know, well it'll help us, Why would Why would China?

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Speaker 1: What's China got to do with with with bigcoin?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, mister Redmond, what I always say, You know

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Speaker 2: It's not going to go back down to one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: It might go up and down, But isn't that that volatility.

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Speaker 6: You tell me it's constantly adjusting to you know, external factors.

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Speaker 6: I said, it's been very very sensitive, you know, I

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Speaker 1: tell us why gold, especially gold, is going to people

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Speaker 1: thanks waking up with us on this Wednesday morning. We're

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Speaker 6: So it's a paradigm shift, and it's really happening more

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's the right the twenty four after

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Speaker 7: Yes, the good morning, gentlemen. But we hope everyone had

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the trend is definitely going digital. It'll be

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Speaker 1: So do you think that's the possibility on Michael, those

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Speaker 1: These brothers and Bob Way, what do they do? They

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Speaker 1: reinvented the wheel.

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Speaker 6: Well, they came up with just invention in terms of

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Speaker 6: on gas. You don't need charging stations, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm at an engineer and I don't know you know

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Speaker 6: everything about it. I've just been you know, following it

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Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and have has the people who

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Speaker 6: and all the companies pretty stick up, you know, including

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Speaker 6: Elon Musk because it's something that this engineer from Zimbabwe

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Speaker 6: came up with. And I mean the cars are going

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Speaker 6: to be you know, you know, like under twenty thousand

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Speaker 6: dollars of stuff like that was cars, especially used cards

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Speaker 6: than even new cards that becomes COVID has become very

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Speaker 6: very expensive.

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Speaker 1: Right hold, I thought right there thirty minutes after the top,

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Speaker 1: I got a tweet question for you, Michael Michael Redman's

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Speaker 1: I guess he's a financial analyst, Juda says, Grand Rising family.

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Speaker 1: Will you ask your guest U, how's your guests to

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Speaker 1: compare how he keeps jumping around. How during Trump's last term,

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Speaker 1: when every company in the US had hiring signs up

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Speaker 1: and saying they couldn't find any workers, to today where

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Speaker 1: everybody is laying people off. I guess you once you

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Speaker 1: compare the differences back then, you know, you pass around

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Speaker 1: the store to see be help wanted. Now that a

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Speaker 1: bunch of folks laid off. You don't, you don't hear,

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Speaker 1: don't see those signs. What's going on with that? I

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Speaker 1: think that's the genesis of the the tweet.

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Speaker 6: Michael, Okay, you're asking about why are people being laid off?

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Speaker 1: Basically, No, he's saying, if you could compare back then,

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Speaker 1: you remember the times when you walk around and see

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Speaker 1: help wanted into all these store many of these storefronts.

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Speaker 1: And now a bunch of folks are being laid off,

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Speaker 1: but you still don't see the help wanted. It wants

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Speaker 1: you to compare the differences. What happened in between, Well.

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Speaker 6: A lot of it had had to do with COVID happened,

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Speaker 6: and uh, you know, people wanted to stay at home,

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Speaker 6: they didn't want they didn't want to, you know, go

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Speaker 6: into the office and stuff and to the larger step

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Speaker 6: that's still in effect. And then, uh, I think the

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Speaker 6: whole situation with the pay, I mean the pay. You know,

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Speaker 6: people's wages have not kept up with inflation, you know

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Speaker 6: when you look at food and you know rent and yeah,

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Speaker 6: the fact that the interest rates went up as high

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Speaker 6: as they went up, you know, people are having trouble,

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Speaker 6: you know, just making ends to meet I mean, they

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Speaker 6: were talking about people making six figures, living off you know,

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Speaker 6: living paycheck to paycheck stuff. You know, California, you know,

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Speaker 6: places like California, San Francisco, San Jose, Boston, New York,

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Speaker 6: you know, talking about million dollar houses. You know, here

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Speaker 6: in Atlanta, average home is you know, four hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty thousand, you know, so it takes an income of

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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to qualify. People aren't

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Speaker 6: making that kind of money. And even if they are,

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Speaker 6: you know, you take out a mortgage, you take it

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Speaker 6: out for thirty years. So are you going to have

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Speaker 6: that job and that income for thirty years without any disruption?

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Speaker 6: You know. So things just seem to be out of

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Speaker 6: balance and out of control to a large extent. And

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Speaker 6: you're asking about, you know, the manufacturing coming back like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it had come back like people think

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Speaker 6: in terms of, you know, how things used to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, they want to be jumping. Don't ask you

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Speaker 1: this though, at twenty seven, since we were on that

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Speaker 1: just waking up. I guess is Michael Redman, he's a

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Speaker 1: financial analyst. Those jobs, is it the labor costs that

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Speaker 1: push these jobs up. Is that why we pay more

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Speaker 1: for stuff because it's cheaper to offload or manufacture or

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Speaker 1: have them built overseas or they just be in Mexico

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Speaker 1: or even Canada for that no matter, and just struck

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Speaker 1: them across the border or or in Asia and ship

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Speaker 1: them to the States and where they pay that the

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Speaker 1: work is you know, pennies on the dollars to what

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Speaker 1: Americans would take. Is that the problem that Americans won't

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Speaker 1: work for that for that quote unquote low level pay?

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Speaker 1: Is that the issue here to me?

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Speaker 6: To me, we can't compete in terms of labor COFs.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's no doubt about that. I mean we're

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Speaker 6: here in Georgia. You know, the minimum wage is seven

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Speaker 6: seven twenty five still. I mean a lot of cities

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Speaker 6: just going up to fifteen dollars. But you know over

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Speaker 6: the foreign countries they may work you know, all day

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Speaker 6: or even a week for seven dollars kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: So we can, Yeah, we can't compete in terms of

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Speaker 6: labor costs. And now you know, with the advent of

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Speaker 6: automation and robotics and artifici coming in, they're trying to

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Speaker 6: get rid of that. You know, let's talk about robo

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Speaker 6: taxis and driverless cars. You know, that's going to have

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Speaker 6: a big impact when that happens, because i mean, the

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Speaker 6: trucking industry, you know, is big here in the United States.

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Speaker 6: You know, everything moves, you know, it's shipped to the

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Speaker 6: porch and then from the porch, you know it basically

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Speaker 6: it's transported you know, by truck, drust and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know. So so let me ask you. They said

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Speaker 1: we're heading for a financial meltdown, you know, like nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. Is that where we're heading.

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Speaker 6: That's that's what the experts are predicting. They're saying that

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Speaker 6: it's going to be worse than two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 6: and probably competing is not worse than nineteen twenty nine,

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Speaker 6: that were headed toward a great depression. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: they were a lot of people's question whether we're in

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Speaker 6: a recession, but you know, two quarters down economic activity,

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Speaker 6: which we've been in in more than two quarters, we've

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Speaker 6: already been in the recessing, and the experts in the

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Speaker 6: prediction that we're going to be in a great depression,

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Speaker 6: which is why you have the volatility and you have

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Speaker 6: gold and silver at all time highs and stuff like that,

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Speaker 6: and even with bitcoin. You know, again, these are things

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Speaker 6: that cannot be printed up. Dollars can be printed up

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Speaker 6: and there's nothing to back them, you know, when they

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Speaker 6: print them up. So it's just they're debasing the currency.

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Speaker 6: I mean, when you look at how the price of

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Speaker 6: the houses, the price of cars, is it that those

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Speaker 6: cars and those houses have really gone up or is

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Speaker 6: it the fact that the American dollar has gone down.

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Speaker 6: I would say that the American dollar has gone down.

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Speaker 6: I mean a dollar prepared to you know, thirty forty

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Speaker 6: years ago, it's probably worth you know, three cents, where

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Speaker 6: back then a dollar was worth a dollar, but now

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Speaker 6: in terms of purchasing power, it's probably worth you know,

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Speaker 6: it's ninety percent of purchasing power has taken out the

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Speaker 1: So hold that through right there, Michael, we gotta take

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Speaker 1: a short break and check the ladies's news, trafficing weather

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Speaker 1: in different cities. We come back. I got a tweet question.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you think about this tweet question for one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners says, will you ask your guest Michael

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Speaker 1: Redmond with the US and the world all being in

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Speaker 1: such debt. Where does the funding backing for a cryptocurrency

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Speaker 1: come from? I let you respond to that when we

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Speaker 1: get back, family, you two can join our conversation with

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Speaker 1: our guests. Who is the financial analyst? Your name is

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Speaker 1: Michael Redmond. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: to five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls after the news that's next and grand

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Speaker 1: rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, seventeen minutes away from the top of the

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Speaker 1: hour of our guest to Michael Redmond. Michael is a

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Speaker 1: financial analyst and he's breaking down to some of the

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes moves that are taking place, and we

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Speaker 1: got to ask him how we need to protect ourself

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Speaker 1: if the economy is going to fall off the cliff.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let me just remind

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Speaker 1: you come up later this morning, we're going to hear

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Speaker 1: from doctor Gerald hornall one of the smartest brothers we

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Speaker 1: have on the planet. He's going to join us and

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Speaker 1: were several subjects aus usual with Dr Horne. But before

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Speaker 1: we hear from doctor Horn, writer Simeon Bookamuhammad is going

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Speaker 1: to give us an update about UFOs. Reportedly there's a

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Speaker 1: And tomorrow is the thirty found of Versitiy of the

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Speaker 1: Million Man March, and one of the architects of the

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Speaker 1: Million Man March happened to be Quansa created doctor Malanag Karenga.

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Speaker 1: In fact, one of the first persons that Minister Farkam

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Speaker 1: called when he decided to do this was was doctor Kurenger.

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Speaker 1: So he's going to share some behind the scenes emotions

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Speaker 1: that took place at the meetings and phone calls that

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Speaker 1: put this the Million Man March and this historic gathering together.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be tomorrow. So if you are in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: make sure your radio is locked in tight on ten

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Speaker 1: ten WLB, or if you're in the DMV family, were

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Speaker 1: on FM ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: w L. All right, Michael, the question the tweet again

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Speaker 1: for those folks who just waking up. The tweet was,

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Speaker 1: can you ask Michael Revan, with the US and the

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Speaker 1: world all being in such debt, where does the funding

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Speaker 1: or the backing for cryptocurrency come from?

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Speaker 5: Son?

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Speaker 6: The people basically started out, you know, basically with retail

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Speaker 6: and individuals, and over the last couple of years, Long

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Speaker 6: Street has basically got behind it. You have a ETSU

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Speaker 6: which are electronic trunks, electronic transfer of funds where institutions

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Speaker 6: and Trump has signed executive orders where retirement accounts, iras,

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Speaker 6: pension plans and stuff like that and invest into it.

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Speaker 6: And they haven't really got into it to the degree

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Speaker 6: that they're going to. And that's why people think it's

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Speaker 6: going to continue to go up. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 6: predicted by a lot of experts in the field that

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Speaker 6: you know, in the next three to six months, Bitcoin,

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Speaker 6: which is now about one hundred and twelve thousand dollars,

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Speaker 6: will be you know, over two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: Now, I'm not telling anybody to go out and buy

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Speaker 6: buy on that you know, information or whatever. But a

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Speaker 6: lot of people who are getting into a lot of

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Speaker 6: people who are getting into a dollar cost savaging. It's

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Speaker 6: just like a savings account, put two or three hundred

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Speaker 6: putting that two or three hundred dollars a month into bitcoin.

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Speaker 6: And like I said, when the When the Wall Street,

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Speaker 6: you know, gets totally behind it, you know they're going

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Speaker 6: to be encouraging people to put larger amounts. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: it's like, you know, one two percent traditionally now are

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Speaker 6: in here. Okay, you should put five or ten percent

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Speaker 6: in the big coin, and then you should have five

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Speaker 6: or ten percent in the precious metals like gold and silver,

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Speaker 6: because again, these these are commodities and things that cannot

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Speaker 6: be printed up. And until the govern missed out for

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Speaker 6: printing money out of nothing, you know, our money is

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Speaker 6: going to continue to debase off fiat currencies that have

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Speaker 6: had nothing to back. The currencies have never you know,

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Speaker 6: survived or never sustained themselves very long.

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Speaker 1: You think of, you know, great, let me ju me

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Speaker 1: in asking this though you know you're right the dollars

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Speaker 1: back by I guess the good will of the American public.

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Speaker 1: But before we were growing up, they are always talks about

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Speaker 1: that the gold is in Fort Knox. Did they ever

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Speaker 1: find out what happened to the gold or who took

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Speaker 1: it out? If somebody's got it or is it in

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Speaker 1: somebody's basement right now?

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Speaker 6: Has it never been audited? That's the funny thing about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean even never talk about Trump and Elon Musk

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Speaker 6: auditing it, but I've never heard over the last forty

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Speaker 6: fifty years that it's been audited. And basically when Nixon

646
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Speaker 6: took it off the gold standard in seventy one, it

647
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Speaker 6: was because people other countries who had put their goal

648
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Speaker 6: in America because after World War Two, you know, Germany

649
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 6: and Japan and you know, everybody you know was under

650
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Speaker 6: construction because of the war. It's like America was the

651
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Speaker 6: safest place to be. But the reason why I believe

652
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Speaker 6: that they took it off is because the goal wasn't there,

653
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Speaker 6: and like I said, it hasn't been audited.

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Speaker 1: So somebody I've kind of took our goal, right, is

655
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Speaker 1: that what you're saying.

656
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Speaker 6: Well, they're saying that we have so much gold, but

657
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Speaker 6: it's never been audited to my knowledge, So you know,

658
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: like anything else, I mean, how are you going to

659
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Speaker 6: claim to say you have this and you know you're

660
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Speaker 6: not going to be transparent in terms of, you know,

661
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Speaker 6: letting the people know that this is what it really is.

662
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Speaker 6: Because even like with a lot of the figures, like

663
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Speaker 6: you're saying, we can't get the figures now because of

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Speaker 6: the shutdown, But some money. Of the figures are distorted,

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Speaker 6: and you know what they want you to believe and

666
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Speaker 6: how they want you to act versus you know, giving

667
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Speaker 6: you what it really is. I mean, they say, okay,

668
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Speaker 6: in facing its two or three percent, I think it's

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Speaker 6: just not hired than through concent I think it's in

670
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Speaker 6: double digits myself. So, uh, you know, you can believe

671
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Speaker 6: what you want to believe. But there's you know, the

672
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Speaker 6: media in the US propaganda machine, and you know there's

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Speaker 6: a real deal in terms of what's happening around the world.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me interrupt you here and ask you this

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Speaker 1: question though, ten away from the time Michael Redman's I

676
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Speaker 1: guess family, he's a financial analysis. What can we do

677
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Speaker 1: to offset that? What should we be doing right now

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Speaker 1: if the economy falls off of cliff, if we're going

679
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Speaker 1: to this depression worse than twenty nine or worse than

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Speaker 1: oh seven, because you say that the recession is already

681
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Speaker 1: here and the next step would be a depression. And

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Speaker 1: of course the numbers, we can't get the numbers because

683
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Speaker 1: the government's shut down, and way even if we get

684
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Speaker 1: the numbers, we don't know if they're fudging the numbers.

685
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Speaker 1: So for the people listening to us right now. Michael,

686
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Speaker 1: what should we be doing with our money our resources?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would say diversifying your resources. I mean in

688
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Speaker 6: terms of saving money, I don't think other than you know,

689
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Speaker 6: you need to pay your bills, pay taxes, things like that.

690
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Speaker 6: But in terms of saving money, I think you have

691
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Speaker 6: to you know, look at gold, silver in bitcoin as

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Speaker 6: being alternate investment vehicles, so that you know, five years,

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Speaker 6: ten years, twenty years, you know, in terms of having

694
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Speaker 6: something that maintains your purchase a buyer. Everybody thinks of

695
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Speaker 6: it as the money. Okay, you're not going to lose

696
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Speaker 6: one hundred dollars, you know, but one hundred dollars doesn't

697
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Speaker 6: buy today what it did five years ago. So what's

698
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Speaker 6: lost is the purchasing power. So if you look at

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Speaker 6: it from a standpoint of when you put your money

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Speaker 6: into something, especially long mid to long term, you know,

701
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Speaker 6: will that be worth more than it's worth today?

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Speaker 1: All right, let me come to the chase here that Mike,

703
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Speaker 1: should we be putting money in our savings accounts of

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Speaker 1: the banks, do you foresee if DIC collapsing, or should

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Speaker 1: we put the money under the mattress or you know,

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Speaker 1: you're saying buy these other things. Will they succeptal to

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Speaker 1: be impacted if the economy falls off the cliff or

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Speaker 1: what should we do?

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Speaker 6: Well, I believe you should be buying you know, gold,

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Speaker 6: silver coins. I mean you can buy paper, you know,

711
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Speaker 6: gold and silver, but I'm saying coins something that if

712
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Speaker 6: the economy comes to halt, you can use your gold

713
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Speaker 6: and silver to you know, transact business with. It's just

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Speaker 6: like back in the day, you know, when they had

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Speaker 6: you know, silver coins, they had silver certificates and stuff

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Speaker 6: like that. I mean, gold and silver are coming back

717
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Speaker 6: to actually bring money again in my estimation, you know,

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Speaker 6: and they're talking about a reset of the of the

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Speaker 6: economy in terms of gold. Because the deficit in the

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Speaker 6: United States deficit is like over thirty seven trillion dollars

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Speaker 6: every ninety or to one hundred days. We're paying a

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Speaker 6: trellion dollars worth interest on that debt that is unsustainable.

723
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Speaker 6: So it's basically.

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Speaker 1: Who's that debt, Michael, who are we paying? Who's is

725
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Speaker 1: it the Chinese, it's the Japanese? Is Who's who do

726
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Speaker 1: we owe the most money to? Or who I should

727
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Speaker 1: say the government owes the most money to?

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah. I mean it's basically we come up with

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Speaker 6: short on in terms of trade trade every year. Like

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Speaker 6: the Chinese, you know, they have a surf of us.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, we have a deficit, and a

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Speaker 6: lot of it has to do with the our entitlement programs,

733
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Speaker 6: you know, military spending, social Security, even though you know

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Speaker 6: we pay in in social Security, but like when Social

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Speaker 6: Security first started, there was like seven people paying in

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Speaker 6: for every one person. Now is like three people paying

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Speaker 6: in for every one person. H It's just that, you know,

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Speaker 6: when you live I don't care if your individual or

739
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Speaker 6: your government, but when you live beyond your means, you're

740
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Speaker 6: going to be broken. I mean, people are living off

741
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Speaker 6: off their credit guard people living off their credit cards.

742
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Speaker 6: I hear report that people can't even come up with

743
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Speaker 6: five six hundred dollars for emergency and stuff, and it

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Speaker 6: seems to be getting worse than getting better. So my

745
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Speaker 6: thing is that my advice leader is definitely, you know,

746
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Speaker 6: save money outside of the American dollar. I mean, yeah,

747
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Speaker 6: you need American dollars to the pay bills, buy groceries,

748
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: they taxes and stuff like that, but you're saving the

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Speaker 6: savor college education or you know something in the mid

750
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Speaker 6: the long term future, you need to put your money

751
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Speaker 6: in the silver in particular. I would say gold is

752
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: more institutional the Fed, but I mean you get better bargain.

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00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: Silver is going for like fifty one dollars right now

754
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 6: versus gold going for four thousand, So you know, I

755
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 6: would say so would be the better of the two

756
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 6: to invest in. But you know, if they reset, they're

757
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Speaker 6: going to reset to the gold price and at the

758
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Speaker 6: civil price, and that's a coin. This thing is going

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Speaker 6: to continue to go out, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, stix away from the top of the bricks. We

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Speaker 1: haven't talked about brick the bricks nations yet because they

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Speaker 1: are they still organizing to create their own currency if

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Speaker 1: they abandon that, or are they just going to have

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Speaker 1: a digital conturgency or are they going to call us

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Speaker 1: against one of the nations, say the Chinese want or

766
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Speaker 1: something like that. What are you hearing about bricks.

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Speaker 6: Bricks is basically coming up. They've come up with their

768
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Speaker 6: own payment system, you know, where they're doing more deals

769
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Speaker 6: between themselves. They don't have to use the switch system.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're coming up with their own payment system.

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00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 6: They're using their own currency. So everything before was sort

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Speaker 6: of global and international. But now because they don't feel

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Speaker 6: that they're getting, you know, nothing for the buck, they're

774
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Speaker 6: basically want to use you know, their resources like gold

775
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Speaker 6: instead of dollars, stuff their commodities, you know, gold, oil, diamonds,

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Speaker 6: you know, things like that. So I believe that they're

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Speaker 6: going to be going two, We're going to go back

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Speaker 6: to some kind of backing, you know with gold and silver.

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Speaker 6: And you know, their their their economies, boring economies in

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Speaker 6: terms of bricks because you know, bricks had like five

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Speaker 6: they had Brazil, rest of India, China, and South Africa.

782
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Speaker 6: Now they have Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the United

783
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Speaker 6: Arab Emirates and there's probably about another thirty countries that

784
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Speaker 6: want to join. So they seem to be the growing

785
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 6: you know economies because they have a lot of the

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Speaker 6: earth minimum resources and they're trying to protect those in

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Speaker 6: that be exploited by the West, which has traditionally happened.

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Speaker 1: Right hold. I thought, right there, Michael, we got to

789
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Speaker 1: take the traffic weather out of different cities. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, though, explain to the audience at bricks is

791
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Speaker 1: in competition of the United States or is it in

792
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: competition with Europe and the United States together. Explain that

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Speaker 1: first when we get back, families four minutes away from

794
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Speaker 1: the top day out, we got to take the trafficking

795
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Speaker 1: weather out different cities. I guess it's Michael Redmand. Michael

796
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: is a financial analyst. You got a question for him?

797
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy sixth we'll take your phone calls

799
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Speaker 1: after the trafficing weather update.

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Speaker 2: That's next.

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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, thanks so waking up with us

802
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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning. It's a hunt deer. We're halfway

803
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Speaker 1: through the work week. I guess this Michael Redmand. Michael

804
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Speaker 1: is a financial analyst. Then, Michael, I'm less you finish

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Speaker 1: your response about the brick nations, and then I got

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Speaker 1: a tweeter sent me a question for you as well.

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Speaker 6: Okay, basically, the bricks are you know, section the muscles

808
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 6: if you will, because of the sanctions and the tariffs

809
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 6: that the Western United States, Europe, you know, and other

810
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 6: countries have put against them stuff. So they're section the

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Speaker 6: muscles and they want to do trade amongst themselves, and

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Speaker 6: they do trade amongst theirselves. They don't want Canada, I

813
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: mean they don't want to France, they don't want the

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Speaker 6: United States the crop from that. H it's uh. I

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Speaker 6: guess you'd say it's basically like a coming out where

816
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 6: they're just being self determined and they're not going to

817
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 6: have the Western world basically punished them, you know, for

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Speaker 6: keeping money you know in Western bank accounts and stuff debt.

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Speaker 6: So there is competition between uh miwer East Asian countries

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Speaker 6: now with Western countries. I mean there was the I

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Speaker 6: m F and the World Economical Now they have counter

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Speaker 6: in terms of development banks and you know, uh institutions

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Speaker 6: that basically match the I m F and the World

824
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Speaker 6: Economic form and stuff. So yeah, there is a competition now.

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Speaker 1: All right, twet tweeted once go ahead, I finished up.

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Speaker 6: So I was asking what was the next question?

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Speaker 1: Oh, then tweet question I was going to Tweeter says,

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Speaker 1: do you need a financial advisor to purchase gold and

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Speaker 1: other commodities? Can you just is there a place you

830
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: can just go and buy the gold? I guess that's

831
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Speaker 1: the essence of the question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you have to find a recordable gold or

833
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 6: precious metals dealer that uh, you know to you know

834
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Speaker 6: buy or know somebody who's selling you know, their personal

835
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 6: stats directly. But normally you would have to go through

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Speaker 6: a dealer to buy gold, sugar, you know, precious metals

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Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So some people you know, will

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Speaker 6: buy jewelry as a way to miss in that if

839
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Speaker 6: you want to buy like bullion coins or whatever, and

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Speaker 6: you go through good dealer.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we let you go though, because I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess everybody's on the same page. When it comes

843
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Speaker 1: at the economy is going to fall off the cliff?

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Speaker 1: Are there any more telltale signs that we can say, hey,

845
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Speaker 1: it's happening, or six months, over a year out from it?

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Speaker 1: Is any signs that you can tell so that we

847
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Speaker 1: can look forward, so we can start, you know, except

848
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Speaker 1: of our game to be prepared when it happens.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's over the last well the eighteen months,

850
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Speaker 6: you know, the way things have been working out, you know,

851
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: the government shut down, people are losing jobs, you know.

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00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's happening. I mean basically until there's

853
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Speaker 6: a turnaround in terms of the deficit and the government

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Speaker 6: gets the spending under control. I just see things, you know,

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Speaker 6: not really change it. I mean, it's not going to

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Speaker 6: get any better. I think inflation is going to continue

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00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 6: to get higher. Matter of fact, they're talking about, you know,

858
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Speaker 6: if they start putting up more money, we're going to

859
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Speaker 6: go into hyperinflation, where again prices are getting higher, but

860
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 6: the wages aren't keeping up, so there's the imbalance. Things

861
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 6: are out of control. And uh, I.

862
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Speaker 1: Mean, because this isn't a financial question, this is a

863
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: politic question, Michael, they do deliberately, I think.

864
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 6: So, yeah, yeah, they're they're they're debating the currency, uh

865
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 6: said of like even raising taxes. You know, if inflation

866
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: is a tax in and of itself, and people don't

867
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 6: you know, aren't able to point their fingers say okay,

868
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 6: well you're doing is you're doing that when it's inflation.

869
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 6: You know where they come out, you know, and they

870
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 6: say they're taxing everybody, and everybody's going to be up

871
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 6: and arms. So yeah, I mean, to me, it is

872
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 6: like they are doing it from the standpoint of, you know,

873
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 6: trying to pay off the deficit. Okay, and basically you

874
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 6: know who's going to pay it off. It's the people.

875
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 6: Just like people usually pay it off through taxes, they

876
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: can pay it off through higher inflation. Then the government

877
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 6: doesn't get played for it.

878
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: So it's sort of another question real quick, you know.

879
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 6: The way of doing it?

880
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Huh the tariffs is that another tax? How do you

881
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: see the tars?

882
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's having it's having a negative impact. A lot

883
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: of major businesses are talking about moving to Canada to

884
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 6: circumvent and get away from the tariffs. So I mean again,

885
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 6: you know, every action there's a reaction, and that action

886
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 6: can be positive or it can be negative, you know,

887
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: depending on the outcome and a lot of senses. You know,

888
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 6: the sanction and the terror for ment to have a

889
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 6: positive impact, but in many respects they've had a negative impact.

890
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 6: So it seems like they've brought a lot of the

891
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 6: foreign countries more into alignment saying that hey, you know,

892
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 6: we're not gonna be punished or we're not gonna you know,

893
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: just take you know what's happening to us laying down,

894
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 6: We're going to fight back and you know, exercise our

895
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 6: own autonomy and trying to make things better for our

896
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 6: own country and stuff. So, like I said, Africa has

897
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 6: been booting out for France in terms of you know,

898
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 6: their economy, which is why Europe is hurting and a

899
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Speaker 6: lot of uh, the trade that was even with America. Now, uh,

900
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 6: you know I ran and China, I ran in Russia.

901
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 6: You know Indian you know, uh you have Indian Russia

902
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 6: that had three billion people out of the epig eight

903
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 6: billion people on Earth. So even from a strictly math

904
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 6: or population standpoint, we've had control over you know, things

905
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 6: because we had the reserve currency. But people are fighting

906
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 6: back against that. They're saying, hey, we want more, more

907
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 6: of a fair share in terms of the international pie

908
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: being split up, and uh, you know that's what's happened.

909
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Speaker 1: Wow, not a pretty picture. I hope folks are listening.

910
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: I hope you folks heard what you said this morning.

911
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Finally you came up. Are you just waking up and

912
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: waking up late? Make sure you get a copy of

913
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Speaker 1: the podcast with Michael Redmond. Michael, how can folks reach you?

914
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: And you on you on social media? You've got an

915
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: email address that folks want more information, want to keep

916
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: up with MW.

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Speaker 6: Redman two two three at gmail dot com. And uh,

918
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 6: I mean you know they can call me at you know,

919
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 6: four oh four to zero seven sixty sixty five seven.

920
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Speaker 6: That's four zero four to zero seven sixty sixty five

921
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 6: seven have any questions or whatever. But email is probably

922
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 6: the best way to reach out to me because you

923
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 6: can put it in writing and then you know I

924
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 6: can respond to it.

925
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: Stuff like email address one more time.

926
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Speaker 6: Email addresses MW. Redman R E D M O N

927
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 6: D two two three at gmail dot com. It's MW.

928
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Speaker 6: Redman two two three at gmail dot com.

929
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Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you, Thank you for sharing your

930
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: experiences and thank you for responding to all the calls

931
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Speaker 1: and questions for us this morning.

932
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Speaker 6: No problem. Thank you for you know, the opportunity to

933
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 6: be a service to people. Thank you very much.

934
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Speaker 1: That's what we do. Thank you, Michael Radmond ten after

935
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: the top of our family. Michael is a financial analyst.

936
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: I've known him for quite some time. He tried to

937
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: get me to read magazines like Ink, always trying to

938
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Speaker 1: get me to be an investor. This was thirty forty

939
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Speaker 1: years ago, right, so in our age, thanks Mike ted

940
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Speaker 1: to tell our family, let's stair attention to that to

941
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Speaker 1: write a sim in book of Mohamed Shim and book

942
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Speaker 1: of Ohamme grand rising brother, Salama Lico and welcome back

943
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: to the program.

944
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Speaker 5: Salama, glad to be back.

945
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Speaker 1: Thank you of course, we'd love to have you because

946
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: we're having some incredible discussions about UFOs. And I got

947
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: to admit, before I started, you know, having conversations with you,

948
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Speaker 1: I was one of those these skeptics. I don't believe

949
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: in UFOs. You know, I'm one of those guys who

950
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: don't watch all those kind of movies about you know,

951
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: way out stuff out there. It's like, Okay. Then I

952
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: started listening to what you were telling us, and the

953
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: fact that the government has been dealing with UFOs quite

954
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: some time, and they have all these fly files that

955
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: were classified and Donald Trump has been threatening to release them.

956
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: What's the latest. Has he released any of the files

957
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: on the UFOs yet?

958
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 5: Uh No not. Basically, there have been declassified files since

959
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 5: you know, he campaigned on that and came into office.

960
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 5: But the the grand you know, disclosure, disclosure release or

961
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: what people were expecting has not happened. The congressional hearings,

962
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 5: the Congress, Senate, you know, they're in grid lack of course,

963
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 5: the nation's now in a shutdown. And even though the

964
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 5: UFO UAP issue was something there seemed to be some

965
00:57:53,400 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: bipartisan interest in you know, the h that has been

966
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 5: affected you know, by the you know, lack of communication

967
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: and the infighting in Congress or the gridlock. So it

968
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 5: is basically not much happening with that. The real disclosure

969
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 5: is just happening before our eyes every day, you know,

970
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: here and across the world. And that's pretty much where

971
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 5: we are. As a matter of fact. It's interesting as

972
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: we speak, the NATO Defense ministers are meeting in Brussels

973
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Speaker 5: and drawn encouragements throughout Europe is not the least of

974
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 5: the issues they're discussing. So you know, this is building.

975
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Speaker 5: The sightings are increasing, the public interest and demand to

976
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 5: know more is increasing, and you know we're basically nothing

977
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 5: from the government on this at this point.

978
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Speaker 1: All right, help us out here. Thirteen half that top

979
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Speaker 1: of the family. I guess he's a writer, Simon book

980
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: of Mohammadi. He's done a lot of research on UFOs,

981
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: brother Simeon. How do we know what we if we

982
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: look at the skies and first question, are the UFO

983
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: is only seen at night? That's first?

984
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: And two?

985
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: If so, how do we know it's the UFO? How

986
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: do we know it's not a drawn or a shooting

987
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: star or chemtrails? How do we know that? How can

988
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: we tell the difference.

989
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 5: Okay, well, it appears that there are more sightings at night,

990
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 5: but their sightings during the daytime as well, and that's

991
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 5: been the case throughout history, and we haven't been discussing

992
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 5: it much. But we're not just talking about in the skies.

993
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 5: We're talking about in the waters in the oceans too.

994
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 5: You have the unidentifiedcible objects that the Navy and other

995
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 5: military have been reporting for decades as well. So when

996
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: you talk about UFOs, uh, you know, you can look

997
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: at it from this standpoint natural phenomena prosaic as they

998
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 5: call it, just normal things occurring in the skies that

999
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 5: people are not familiar with or they misidentify, like lights, birds,

1000
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 5: that type of thing that happened regularly. Now there could

1001
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 5: also be phenomenon like that that doesn't happen regularly, so

1002
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 5: the perceiver is not familiar with it and you know,

1003
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 5: might consider it to be something else. At the same time,

1004
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 5: we have the what people are calling the reversed engineered

1005
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 5: vehicles from government and private industry. From UFOs that have

1006
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: been retrieved, you have the possibility of advanced drones and

1007
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 5: advance you a you know, unmanned area of vehicles that

1008
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 5: have been developed over the years that people are not

1009
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 5: aware of. And we have the possibility of you know,

1010
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 5: that same type of thing from government and industries from

1011
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 5: foreign nations. And then we have the real phenomenon which

1012
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: the government now admits and people have been talking about

1013
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 5: for years. And that's the intelligence behind the mother craft,

1014
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 5: the mother wheel, the smaller crafts inside of that that

1015
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 5: have been reported for decades. And now you have government

1016
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 5: officials talking about the motherships and the planes and that

1017
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 5: type of thing. And that takes us back to black

1018
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 5: people in America and the nation of this Slam circ

1019
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: in nineteen thirty. Who are the intellectual authors you know,

1020
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: of this concept and phenomenon. You can also look at.

1021
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: And hold left though. Right there we got to step

1022
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: aside for a few moments of same. And when you

1023
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: come back though, tell us what did the nation though

1024
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: back then then? How people are talking about Because when

1025
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: the nation is started about UFOs, people say, oh, there's

1026
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: those black Muslims. They're crazy, you know, as part of

1027
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: their thinking, you know, they're out there. What did they

1028
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: find out that they were talking about back then? Now

1029
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: people saying, hey, they were right sixteen after the top.

1030
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: They have family, You want to jump in on this

1031
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: conversation with brother Simeon Book of Muhammad. Reach out to

1032
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

1033
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: seventy six discussing UFOs. What are your thoughts. We'll take

1034
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for

1035
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: starting your Wednesday with us. Is twenty minutes after the top.

1036
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: They are, I guess is writer Simon Book of Muhammad.

1037
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: If you're familiar with the name Simeon Book, if you

1038
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: if if you followed what's been going on in the

1039
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: writing animals? You know, his his father and his brother,

1040
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: famous writers. Simeon Book of Mohamma, though is a member

1041
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: of the Nation of Islam as many of his families

1042
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: members are. And the question I put to him, you know,

1043
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: because we're talking about UFOs. Back in the day when

1044
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: they used to call the Nation of Islam, they used

1045
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: to go on black Muslims. I remember that way back then,

1046
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: and they were talking about UFOs and the starships and

1047
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: people saying, oh that's not those are crazy Muslims, and

1048
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: those crazy black Muslims their way out there. Da da

1049
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: da da da dae try to put him down. And

1050
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: now we talk about the mothership and all that kind

1051
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: of sting. They made songs about it. But now we

1052
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: find out the government has been had been monitoring in

1053
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: UFOs all this time, and all this information, by the way,

1054
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: families classified, they still haven't released, even though Donald Trump

1055
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: has threatened to release them. So my question to brother

1056
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: Simeon was what did the nation though back then that

1057
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the country or the rest of the

1058
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: world apparently did not know.

1059
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 5: Okay, well, first, let me say there is a lot

1060
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: of there's much declassified information out there, and let me

1061
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 5: just finish up on the characteristics of the phenomena, you know,

1062
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 5: in terms of what people might be looking for, and

1063
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 5: you're talking about instant acceleration, you know, like objects going

1064
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 5: from still to super speeds or moving with no apparent

1065
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 5: power source or propulsion, no apparent appendages on the outside

1066
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 5: to just smooth surfaces. These objects can be trans medium,

1067
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 5: you know, and they can go from the air to

1068
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 5: water to space. And the other characteristic would be intelligent interaction,

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Speaker 5: so you know, the observer or the experiencer sees or

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 5: experiences intelligence, you know, from this phenomenon. And you know,

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Speaker 5: going back to nineteen thirty and the beginning of this

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Speaker 5: in the modern era with the nation. You know, master

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 5: fraud Muhammad told the messenger Deanna Bloy Elijah Muhammad about

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Speaker 5: the mother wheel and the planes and what have you.

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Speaker 5: And you know, from from that point on, you know,

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 5: we have you know, you saw a group of people organizing, experiencing, publishing,

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Speaker 5: and teaching about this phenomenon. Going back to again nineteen

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Speaker 5: thirty and it was in the forties that it appears

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01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 5: that the you know, governm and through surveillance of the

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01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 5: nation became aware of this phenomena and these teachings, you know,

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 5: and actually through surveillance learned more and actually raided the

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 5: offices and you know, the messenger was arrested at you know,

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 5: at some point. So it appears that the government had

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 5: this information from this source with actual records. And then

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 5: in the forties we started having these this this increase

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 5: in sightings from the food fighters and World War two,

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01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 5: from the sighting over Washington in nineteen forty seven roswell,

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Speaker 5: you know, leading to the current day.

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Speaker 9: So you know, the.

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Speaker 5: Intellectual authorship again goes back to black people and the nation.

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Speaker 5: Now prior to that, you know, we can go back

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01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 5: into ancient times and religions and civilizations, and this phenomenon

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 5: is recorded and known about for time immemorial. It's just

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 5: that the public hasn't been filled in and it's pretty

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 5: much the same way today, and with the power of

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01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 5: media and excuse me, in society, you know, people are scared, fearful, reluctant,

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 5: very tentative to even address this information, so they repress it.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I think the psychological effect of this

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 5: is deep and just cannot be estimated at this point

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 5: because it's so great. And then you add what we're

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 5: seeing in disguise with everything else is going that's going

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Speaker 5: on in the world. You know, as we were talking,

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 5: I was listening to your earlier guests talking about the

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Speaker 5: economics and the bricks formerly called you know, the underline nation,

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 5: so to speak. And you know, we're in a very

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Speaker 5: pivotal time in history.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six after the top, do we brother sim in

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01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: Book of Muhammad? A tweet question for you. Two tweet questions.

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: Ask your guest what countries have reported UFOs the most?

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Speaker 1: That's the first one.

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01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 5: What excuse me? What country?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what countries of reporting the UFOs the most? Is

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: it this one?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's definitely the US. No, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: And there are a lot of sightings reported in Mexico

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 5: and other places. And as we mentioned earlier, you know,

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 5: the the the rash of swarms of UFOs over europe

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 5: airports as we speak, but definitely the US it has

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 5: the highest recorded UH number. And you know that could

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Speaker 5: very simply be the fact that you know, look at

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Speaker 5: the power of the United States and the media presence

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Speaker 5: of the United States, you know, to influence people in

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 5: world and the world and world events.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you enemy, I've asked this question.

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Speaker 1: How much of what we're seeing and what you're talking

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: about is biblical?

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01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's it appears that a great bit

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Speaker 5: of it is biblical because you can go to the

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01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: you know, the Bible and the Kuran, the Torah, ancient

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 5: Indian texts, indigenous cultures and their oral histories, and we

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 5: find and and that's why I mentioned earlier, we find

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 5: this ancient intelligence apparently that you could say is timeless,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 5: and that's pretty much what we're dealing with today.

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 8: And you know.

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 5: It, I was just going to say, it's clear clear

1136
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: that's something that's going on, and it's a link to

1137
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 5: the distance path to the distant past up until the present.

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01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 5: It's tied into world events, and it's tied into wealth,

1139
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 5: disparity on the planet and social justice. It's lacking on

1140
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 5: the planet, and there's acting with all of that. But

1141
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 5: you know, you don't hear or or see that being

1142
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 5: discussed in the current narrative.

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: All Right, I got another tweet question for you twenty

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: eight after the top of the Oh, if you're just

1145
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: checking in family Simeon Booker Muhammadi. It's an expert on

1146
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 1: UFOs and is giving us an update on the UFO sightings.

1147
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about mostly they still want

1148
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. But before we get to that, though, this

1149
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: tweets and I'm not familiar with it with this particular question,

1150
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: but anyway, is the tweet ask our guest to talk

1151
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: about the Bonnie and Betty Hill interracial couple UFO abduction

1152
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: incident in the sixties. I'm just wondering, is this from

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01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: the cartoon or is this Are you familiar with this, brother, Simeon, Oh, yes.

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 5: That excuse me. That's one of the most famous UFO

1155
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 5: abduction incidents and the Hills, a married couple, an interracial

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 5: married couple.

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Lee.

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 5: He was the head of the NAACP in that area,

1159
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 5: and yeah, that was a huge event that happened back then.

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 5: They were put through all types of tests, psychological tests,

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 5: lie detective tests, spawned movies, and it was a huge event.

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 5: And some people tie the negative reaction that Barney Hill

1163
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: got being black, and you know, the negative response to

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 5: their interracial marriage tied into the UFO situation. You know,

1165
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: some people look at that as being one of the

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01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 5: reasons that black or reluctant blacks are reluctant to even

1167
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 5: talk or speak about this issue or get involved with it.

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 5: But that incident, along with the Aral school incident in Zimbabwe, Africa,

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 5: are probably two of the most famous UFO incidents and

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: stories or media.

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: Wow I'm in school here twenty nine away from the

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: top that we see him in the Book of Mohammed.

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: We've given us an update on UFOs and family. You

1174
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: got to have an open mind when you hear some

1175
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: of these discussions. Don't please, don't close off your mind.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: Just keep listening and anything you hear, just research it.

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: That's all we ask you to do on this program.

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01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: But brothers, here, my question, how do you because I

1179
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: don't think you answer the question. Maybe it didn't give

1180
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: you a chance to finish responding. How do you know

1181
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: the difference when you see the flying object in the sky,

1182
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: How do you know if it's not a drone? How

1183
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: do you know it's not the wind share or some

1184
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: other stuff, or how do you know you know it

1185
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: is a let's put it in, how do you know

1186
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: it is a UFO?

1187
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, by by definition, if you're observing something

1188
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 5: and you can't discern or identify what it is, then

1189
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 5: it's an unidentified object, whether it's flying or in the water.

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 5: And so if you for the layman, if they're if

1191
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 5: people are seeing something that they're not familiar with, that

1192
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 5: they don't see in their everyday life, it's not part

1193
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 5: of their experience, then that should send up a red

1194
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 5: flag or at least say this is something we need

1195
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 5: to look into. But you know, I went over the

1196
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 5: characteristics of generally the characteristics when we're talking about the

1197
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 5: instantaneous acceleration, you know, like from zero to super speed

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 5: in a second, no apparent surface appenditures, no visible propulsion

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 5: silence normally with lights able to have trans medium capabilities

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 5: going into the water out of the water into space,

1201
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 5: and intelligence intelligent interaction. So those are the characteristics of

1202
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 5: a UFO. Other objects may or may not have some

1203
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 5: of those characteristics. But for even experts to look in

1204
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 5: the sky and tell something is this or that is

1205
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 5: rather difficult to do. But what you can do is

1206
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 5: know what you're being and analyze it. I think one

1207
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 5: thing that's that's missing is, you know, there's you know,

1208
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 5: all of these videos and photos and everything else, and

1209
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 5: in order to analyze this type of thing, it's very expensive,

1210
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 5: and so you know, you have many things that could

1211
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 5: be real, they could be fake, And I mean the

1212
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 5: only re the only way you can get to the

1213
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 5: bottom of it is observing, focusing and studying it and

1214
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: researching it and doing this over a period of time.

1215
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 5: But I don't think there are any easy answers to,

1216
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 5: you know, answer that question. You know, normal drones have

1217
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 5: certain flying characteristics, but what's been been seen lately the

1218
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 5: last several years, these objects don't exhibit the usual characteristics

1219
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 5: of drones that people are used to sing, which leads

1220
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 5: to these drones could be some government or you know,

1221
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 5: private industry tech development, or they could be something else.

1222
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 5: We just don't know, And when you know the source

1223
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 5: that you're supposed to be able to get this information

1224
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:30,480
Speaker 5: from the government, your society, the systems and the society

1225
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 5: are not answering the question, are in fact indeed covering

1226
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 5: it up. Then people are, you know, really in a

1227
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 5: situation where they have to just accept being ignorant about

1228
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 5: it and not try to find out or be proactive

1229
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 5: and find out what's going on in exercise and human

1230
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 5: rights to know.

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: Twenty four away from the topic, we've got to get

1232
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: a step asund and up with the ladies and news, trafficking,

1233
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: weather of different cities. When we come back the Simon

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: Book of Muhammad, these sidings, and we'll talk about the

1235
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: signings in Baltimore. But these signings are they usually out

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01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: in the desert, or they're in urban centers, or they're

1237
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: all over the place. You explain where people are seeing them,

1238
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: because you know, is are they in the inner city

1239
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: for example, what do you see or if they're just

1240
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: scattered globally. I'll let you explain that. When we get back.

1241
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: Family YouTube can join our conversation. We brother Simeon Book

1242
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: of Mohammad. We're doing a lot of research in UFOs.

1243
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts. Do you believe it or not?

1244
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

1245
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take a

1246
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: phone calls after the news. Trafficking weather that's next and

1247
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: grand rising family and thanks are starting your Wednesday with us.

1248
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: It's a hump day. We're halfway through the work week.

1249
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: It's sixteen minutes away from the top of the out

1250
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: of that guest the Simeon Book of Mohammed. He's done

1251
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: a lot of research in Tufos. Get back to him

1252
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: in the moment. Let me just remind you. Coming up

1253
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: later this morning, we speak with doctor Jerald Horne, one

1254
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: of the smartest brothers we have on the planet from

1255
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 1: the University of Houston. We're going to tackle several topics

1256
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: as per usual with Dr Horn. And by the way,

1257
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: he's going to be in town this weekend. If you're

1258
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: in Washington, DC area, any part of the DMV, make

1259
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: sure you go out and see doctor Horn. We'll give

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: you all information later as well. And tomorrow we're going

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: to celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of the Milan Man March

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: and one of the architects of the march there was

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 1: a doctor Malana Krenka, you know from Kwanza, but he

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: was one of the first persons that Minister Farcon called

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: when he decided to put on this venture, and in fact,

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01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: doctor Crankin wrote the manifesto for the Millian Man March.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all those meetings, those

1268
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: phone calls and some of the people other people that

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01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: are involved, as much as he can share with us.

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01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: We're going to hear about that tomorrow. So if you

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01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, make sure you keep you ready to

1272
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: locked in tight on ten ten WLB or if you

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: him at DMV. We're on FM ninety five point nine

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01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: and AM fourteen fifty WOL. All right, brother, see me

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: in the Book of Mohammed questions you where are these

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: signings mostly seeing the UFOs? Are they in urban centers,

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: are in the country side or the deserted places? And

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: the recent explain to us as the recent, I understand

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01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: what's in Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, the sightings are seen everywhere, in urban areas

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Speaker 5: and rural areas, and particularly in indigenous areas where these

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Speaker 5: sightings are just in their culture and they're used to

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Speaker 5: seeing for time immemorial. So they can be seen anywhere.

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Speaker 5: The people in airplanes have seen these things. They've been

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Speaker 5: some of the most credible sightings, it appears, so they

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Speaker 5: can literally be seen anywhere. The clip I sent you

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Speaker 5: I just saw yesterday kind of not long after you

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Speaker 5: called me from Baltimore. And you know, that's a good

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Speaker 5: example of something that is is unidentified. It's an unidentified

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Speaker 5: object until it is identified. This idea or this disinformation

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Speaker 5: misinformation that everything we're seeing in disguise now are drones.

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Speaker 5: That's that's just not true. That's just this information and

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Speaker 5: part of the cover up. So be an object in Baltimore,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what that is. And that's really the

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Speaker 5: honest answer. But that's what millions of people have been seeing,

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Speaker 5: you know, themselves individually or you know, on television, you know,

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Speaker 5: like we experienced during and I always go back to

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Speaker 5: the end of twenty twenty four, early twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: where we just had a flurry of swarms of UFOs

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Speaker 5: over America. So what what are they? And you know,

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Speaker 5: if we have all of these unidentified objects, why aren't

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Speaker 5: people's congressional representatives doing more about it? I mean, we're

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Speaker 5: not even hearing about this UFO phenomena on the news

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Speaker 5: or anywhere right now. So if the new you know,

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Speaker 5: the mainstream legacy news covers it, then people see it

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01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 5: and are talking about it. But if the legacy news

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Speaker 5: doesn't cover it, then people are not talking about it.

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Speaker 9: It's like out of.

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Speaker 5: Sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 1: Is that deliberate? Interesting that let me jump and ask

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Speaker 1: you that is that deliberate that the news legacy news

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Speaker 1: agencies are refusing to report on this. And by the way, family,

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners tell us, you can see this

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, the UFO signing over Baltimore go ahead. Is

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Speaker 1: this deliberate why they're keeping this information from us?

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely deliver it. And it's no accident that the

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Speaker 5: government UFO programs are called legacy programs and the mainstream

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Speaker 5: media is called the legacy media because they're connected and

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01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 5: it's hood up and it's it's all together. So you know,

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Speaker 5: we're definitely being deceived, and there's a cover up in

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Speaker 5: terms of they're actually you know that you can admit

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Speaker 5: something exists and then cover it up. So there's a

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Speaker 5: cover up about the existence of this phenomenon and what

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Speaker 5: it is and what it's not, And there's a cover

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Speaker 5: up about the origin of the phenomenon that is indigenous,

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Speaker 5: and there's a cover up about the modern day origin

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Speaker 5: of this phenomenon that we see and talk about all

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Speaker 5: the time now, and that's from black people in America.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that this is why it's sort of

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Speaker 1: because you know, the Nations was talking about this way

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Speaker 1: back when Minister for Dd and Elijah Muhammad, they were

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Speaker 1: having these discussions about these the Mothership and these UFOs.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is the reason why it's it's

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Speaker 1: sort of been pushed to the side by mainstream media

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Speaker 1: because he's coming. The genesis of the discussion started with

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Speaker 1: your group.

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Speaker 5: I'm absolutely there, absolutely no question about that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we have been covering this since the nineteen thirties. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and my family has been on this since the seventies.

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Speaker 5: My cousin John Woodford wrote for Mohammed Speaks and was

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Speaker 5: the editor in chief from Muhammad Speaks in the early seventies.

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Speaker 5: My brother Abdul Wali Mohammad was the editor in chief

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Speaker 5: of The Final Call from the eighties to the early nineties. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, the government, the mainstream media, the controllers, they

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01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 5: know this, they know about this. They know what's going

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Speaker 5: on with this, and nobody's talking about it or reporting it.

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Speaker 5: It is just if it wasn't true, it would be bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Ten away from the top. I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you this though, about the UFO and the oceans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is the first time I'm here. I've

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Speaker 1: heard about UFOs in diskies with you said, and the

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Speaker 1: seas on the water their UFOs.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yes, one of the whistle blowers. I mean, technically

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Speaker 5: I don't consider these people whistle blowers because they're not

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Speaker 5: telling everything they know for fear of retribution or death.

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Speaker 5: But one of the people that has testified recent the

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Speaker 5: last several years is I think former now we're Admiral

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Speaker 5: Timothy Gallahdet from the Navy, and he has testified of

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Speaker 5: reports of sightings underwater of objects the size of a

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Speaker 5: football field traveling at super incredible speeds when modern technology

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Speaker 5: can only go three forty knots under the water. This

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Speaker 5: has been part of the narrative and phenomenon from the

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Speaker 5: beginning too. It's just kind of got it just you know,

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Speaker 5: isn't talked about as much, but it's just as evident

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Speaker 5: and important because especially when you look at the transmedian

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Speaker 5: medium abilities to go in and out of the wader

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Speaker 5: in the.

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Speaker 6: Space all right.

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Speaker 1: Eight away from the top of all. Mike's checking in

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Speaker 1: from DC. Has a question or comment for yours online

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Speaker 1: one Grand Rising, Mike, youan we brother Simon, Book of Muhammad.

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Speaker 8: Good morning missus Muhammad, and good morning Grand Rising to

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Speaker 8: mister Nelson and mister Kevin, Sarah, you're absolutely right. The

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Speaker 8: United States Navy. Just after forty years I explained to

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Speaker 8: mister Kevin that I was a part of special operation

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Speaker 8: at Phibia Steels in the North Atlantic and the Arctic

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Speaker 8: Ocean where the Northern Lights were, and I saw something

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Speaker 8: and what happens that they they put it in the law,

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Speaker 8: but then they took it out. So for forty I

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Speaker 8: didn't realize when I got back to the States, I

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Speaker 8: was telling mister Kevin, I came back to Portsmouth Naval Base.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know what's going on. I was a young

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Speaker 8: Stemens at particular time. And then from there they took

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Speaker 8: me to Langland Air Force Base. I had no idea

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Speaker 8: what the world. Langland Air Force Base was realizing later

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Speaker 8: on in life, de was the CIA headquarters. They interrogated me,

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Speaker 8: they put me in. They threaten they put me in

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Speaker 8: the straight jacket, shoot me up, put me in jail.

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Speaker 8: Couldn't talk about it. So then forty years later, you know,

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Speaker 8: the congressional hearings. We just had a couple couple of

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Speaker 8: years ago. I was a part of congressional hearings. And

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Speaker 8: like you said, so you're an African American, senior African American.

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Speaker 8: Not many black people talk about these things.

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Speaker 6: It would be a.

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Speaker 8: Big disturbance in the whole world order of religion that

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Speaker 8: they were to reveal the truth. A lot of our

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Speaker 8: old ships were analogues because of the things that they

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Speaker 8: found in Area fifty one and all these things. That's

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Speaker 8: why we have the technology now that you talk about now,

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Speaker 8: mister Nelson about AI know, we got all this stuff

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 8: off the instruments of these ships, of the vessel they

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 8: were wearing the crowns, and that's why we had the

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01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 8: technology we had now at that time was a part

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Speaker 8: of the drones, the first drones that came out, the

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Speaker 8: satellite GPS systems, the cell phones and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: So the elcats you probably heard the elkacks when they

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Speaker 8: landed in normally the beach. They come on the beach

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Speaker 8: and the Ramskin. They came find out we had the

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Speaker 8: hubbercraft and stuff like that, so I was a part

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Speaker 8: of that stuff. But this stuff is very very truth.

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Speaker 8: I'm supposed to be going to the uh Antarctica, Antartica.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of things that spiritual called me to

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Speaker 8: go to Antarctica. There's a lot of things coming out

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Speaker 8: of water there. So these things are definitely true. That

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Speaker 8: would be a big disorder, a disturbance in the tire

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Speaker 8: realm of the lies of religion in the world and

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 8: to control of religion. They can't reveal this and to

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Speaker 8: know that, you know, something is more superior to us

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 8: they're having. They don't want to feel it because we

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Speaker 8: can't handle it. A lot of times we can't handle

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01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 8: the truth, know what I'm saying. So the government doesn't

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Speaker 8: want to tell us everything because.

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Speaker 10: We would just be so confused.

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Speaker 8: It's just it's just too much to talk about. You know.

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Speaker 8: The government has to pay me now. So yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Mike brother Simon, you want to respond anything you said.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much for calling in. Oh that

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01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 5: that was really refreshing to hear somebody talk like that.

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Speaker 5: And I agree with everything that that the caller said

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01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 5: is basically true. I mean, there's absolutely no question about this.

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Speaker 5: And whether you're talking about Above Top Secret, which is

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Speaker 5: a book that came out years ago that I wrote

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01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 5: a review for the Final Call on whether you're talking

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01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 5: about Above Top Secret because they don't want this information

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01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 5: to get out because it would it would just upturn

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01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 5: upside down the world order that we've lived in today,

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01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: or whether you want to go to Boba Dick Gregory

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01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 5: who basically used to say the same thing about you know,

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Speaker 5: they can't let this come out about you know, UFOs

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01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 5: and black people and all of this because it would

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01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 5: just disturb the world order, the government's religion and what

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Speaker 5: have you.

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Speaker 1: Right, I love that thought right there. We got to

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01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: take another look at the traffic and weather. I want

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01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: you to expound on that. The fear of all this

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01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: information coming out and how the role the black man

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Speaker 1: or the African man plays in all of this. I

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01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: want you expound that when we get back. But we

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: got to take a quick look at the traffic and

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Speaker 1: weather in at different cities. It's four minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top of the our family. I guess there's brother

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01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Simeon Book of Mohammed. He's a researcher into UFOs. What

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01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Reach out to us at eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls after the traffic and weather update that's next,

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. I guess there's Brother Simeon Book of Mohammad.

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01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: The Brother Simeon has worked and done a lot of

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Speaker 1: research into UFOs and that's what we're discussing this morning.

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Speaker 1: And let's usually once you to have an open minded

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Speaker 1: or some people just I don't believe in that kind

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01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: of stuff and they push you to the corner. But

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Speaker 1: just listen and if anything piques your interest, just researching.

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Speaker 1: Don't believe everything you hear, and this is not just

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Speaker 1: for Brother Simon, but anything you hear on this program

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Speaker 1: and you have concerns, just researching. That's all we're asking

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Speaker 1: you to do to seem I got two tweets for you,

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Speaker 1: but I'll let you finish your thought first and then

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Speaker 1: I'll ask the tweet questions for you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, first, I'd like to just comment about the last caller,

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Speaker 5: just to differentiate CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and then

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Speaker 5: Langley Air Force Base which is further south, and Langley

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Speaker 5: Air Force Base, for example, has really been a hotbed

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Speaker 5: of UFO of activity, and in twenty twenty three it

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Speaker 5: basically was closed down the flights was closed down for

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Speaker 5: seventeen days straight for UFO incursions into their secure airspace.

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Speaker 5: And so in terms of UFOs worldwide, So if we

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Speaker 5: look at the United States and all the sightings here,

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Speaker 5: particularly the last several years up until now, and what's

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Speaker 5: going on as we speak in Europe, we're seeing these

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Speaker 5: sightings and you can help but connect the dots to

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01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 5: the power centers of the world in American Europe with

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Speaker 5: economic and military control and the disparity and the wealth

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Speaker 5: disparity between those areas of the world and the rest

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Speaker 5: of the world, and the just incredible wealth disparity gaps

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Speaker 5: that exist from the exploitation of indigenous people and indigenous

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Speaker 5: people's lands around the world. And I cannot help but

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Speaker 5: see a connection between that uh phenomena and the the

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Speaker 5: UFO phenomenon and taking that yeah, I.

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Know that thought right there, because we've got another guest

1492
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: coming up. I got I want to and if you

1493
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: can show up on the response, I appreciate. But I

1494
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: got two real good questions for you, brother Simen. I

1495
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: take the first one, ask mister Booker Muhammad does he

1496
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: think these UFOs are energy spirits of our past ancestors

1497
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: and the reason most people don't see them is because

1498
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're looking for. That's the first one.

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01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 5: I think. I think that's definitely, uh, there's something to that,

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01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 5: and that's a possibility, and you know, you connect that

1501
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 5: with diblical stories of angels and visitations and things of

1502
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 5: that nature, then I think that's definitely something on the

1503
01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 5: table uh to be analyzed, but personally I'm events of that.

1504
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 1: Okay. Second one, it's kind of long to follow. It says.

1505
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: The tweet says, are you familiar with Baba Credo Mutwa?

1506
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a story about him in the

1507
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: moment because I'm familiar with him. We interviewed him. Anyway,

1508
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: it goes, are you familiar with Baba Credo and Mudua,

1509
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: the great Black Zangum artists and healer from South Africa

1510
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: who was considered such a highly evolved priest in his

1511
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: country that the world that he was likened to the

1512
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: ocean whale that gives off a sound in the ocean

1513
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: that cann't be heard in out of space but cannot

1514
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: be recorded by modern technology, and lets the inverse know

1515
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: that all is well on the Earth. Goes on to

1516
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: say he was abducted by aliens from out of space

1517
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: several times and reported on those abductions and wrote about

1518
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: them in his books. And the question is for you, Goes,

1519
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: do you believe that the increased signings of UFOs are

1520
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: a sign of the coming of end times mentioned in

1521
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: the Bible as the chariots of God?

1522
01:35:58,960 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 10: It is.

1523
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 5: It's interesting. I was just looking at one of that

1524
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 5: brother's videos yesterday. I've seen others, and I don't think

1525
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 5: there's any question about in terms of the end times.

1526
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 5: You know, people have different thoughts and definitions of what

1527
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 5: that is. But I don't think there's any question that

1528
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 5: we're seeing a rapid and gradual at the same time

1529
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 5: decline in the world order, and we're seeing an energy

1530
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 5: of spirit and excitement for freedom and social justice across

1531
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 5: the world. And I don't think there are any coincidences

1532
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 5: like that. It's all connected.

1533
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he mentioned about Credo MD from South African

1534
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: we did an interview with him. I was recommended by

1535
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: David Ike David acause one of these Dig Gregory's partners.

1536
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: It's like the Dig Gregory of the UK. You know,

1537
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 1: he's comes with all these ideas. Are you familiar with them? Okay.

1538
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: We used to interview him quite a bit as well,

1539
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: and uh he he yeah. He recommended Crude and Mutra

1540
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 1: in South Africa. We interviewed him and it was interesting.

1541
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: They when we got it, got the phone call with

1542
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: they had to go find him. So we're on there

1543
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: for for a few minutes while they're trying to find

1544
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: creed him up and he shared some phenomenal information with us.

1545
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I can recall what we're the stuff that we're discussing now,

1546
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: and at that time he sounded way out. I mean

1547
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: it sounded real, way out. But since then I've learned

1548
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: so much more about UFOs. It's it's just incredible. But

1549
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: in the essence of time, Brother say Ku has in Baltimore,

1550
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: has a question for you, Brother Simon, because we have

1551
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: doctor Horne on deck waiting for us. So Brother say Ku,

1552
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: your question for Brother Sime Book of Mohamed, can you

1553
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: make it quick for us?

1554
01:37:55,800 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 11: We got Fradavid saying this album the Little Boy in

1555
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 11: they were saying they were talking about Uarold. But if

1556
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 11: they exist, so what how does that change our particularly

1557
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 11: in this country in the world.

1558
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's give me a chance to respond. Thank

1559
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: you for the sake sah.

1560
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 5: Well, Well, the only thing I can say to that is,

1561
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 5: as with any reality, phenomena or facts, it is what

1562
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 5: it is, and we have to analyze and discuss it,

1563
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 5: and I observe things. I just don't disregard things. And

1564
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 5: if something is real, I want to find out what

1565
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 5: there is to it.

1566
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 11: Well, okay, well, part of that musician is concerned. Man,

1567
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 11: musicians have a reputation for getting intoxicated, getting stone.

1568
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 12: You know, tell them what they might say.

1569
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't see. I'm not getting the connection between

1570
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 5: musicians and UFO phenomena in a in a negative way.

1571
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think the way I look at

1572
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 5: the UFO phenomenon and American Black culture and history in

1573
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 5: the music, uh, the phenomenon are our ancestors have been

1574
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 5: speaking to us about our condition and about the UFO

1575
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 5: phenomena and about the current events that we're seeing, uh

1576
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 5: in real time, in real life on the news and

1577
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 5: that's where we are today.

1578
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well listen, we're just flat out of time. And

1579
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for thank you for

1580
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: doing this because you know, like I said, some people

1581
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: still still have closed minds. They don't want to open

1582
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: their minds and they think of one thing that they've

1583
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: heard way back when and somebody told them, and they

1584
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 1: refuse to do any research. But that's what you've done

1585
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: because and you bring receipts. So, brother Siman book Book

1586
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: the behind, thank you for sharing that with us. How

1587
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: can folks reach you if they want more?

1588
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm happy to be here. You can just search

1589
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 5: or Google spaces the place and you can add my

1590
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 5: name if you like. But if you don't add my name,

1591
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 5: you should be able to locate me that way. Space

1592
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 5: is the place.

1593
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: Well, thank you and thank you for And if anything changes,

1594
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: if they release the classified documents, please call us so

1595
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: we can talk about it.

1596
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not expecting that, but I certainly will. And

1597
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 5: also I want to say long live the Spirit in

1598
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 5: a million man March and the thirty year anniversary coming up.

1599
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: That's right, We're going to talk about that tomorrow. Thank you,

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01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: brother Saman Bookingham, thank you for sharing your thoughts with

1601
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 1: us this morning.

1602
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 5: You're welcome lovely lots of.

1603
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Peace, brother doctor Jerald Horns joining us a lemonth. That's

1604
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: top the Grand Rising, Doctor Horn, welcome back to the program.

1605
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 9: Thank you for inviting me.

1606
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just going to ask you straight up, are

1607
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 1: your thoughts on UFOs the real or just the imaginary?

1608
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 9: Well, I can't say the number I've studied that question,

1609
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 9: so I'll have to differ.

1610
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, Let's let's go to the the recent Gaza

1611
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: peace agreement.

1612
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: Is it?

1613
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: Is it holding? Because I understand now that Hamas is

1614
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: executing people on the streets that have not disarmed and

1615
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: as part of the agreement, and Israel is the restricting

1616
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: supplies into Gaza. What have you heard?

1617
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 9: Well, I think what is going to unfold as predictable.

1618
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 9: That is to say, after Israel receives as captives and

1619
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 9: receives the remains of those who died, many of whom

1620
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 9: died Israeli bombing, they will manufacture an excuse for resuming

1621
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 9: the attack on Gaza. They will claim that the accords

1622
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 9: been violated by Hamas and therefore Israel is not bound

1623
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 9: in any case. If you look at this accord, and

1624
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 9: it's reflected in the fact that as Charmol shake Egypt

1625
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 9: he is really prime Minister was not there, nor was

1626
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 9: the Hamas representative there. They are not necessarily signatory that

1627
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:22,919
Speaker 9: the accord is between the United States, Turkeia, Gutter and Egypt,

1628
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 9: and they're supposed to keep Israel in line. The United

1629
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 9: States is supposed to keep Israel in line. Of course,

1630
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 9: don't depend upon that. And so I think it's fair

1631
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 9: to suggest that the struggle continues, you know.

1632
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: And I saw that, and I was wondering, you know,

1633
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: doctor Halk, what about the Saudis. They're one of the

1634
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 1: more prominent players in this game, and it seems like

1635
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: they were missed. I thought, did they have so much

1636
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: influence in our brother? Hope they still do? Why were

1637
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: they missing from all of this? Are they just sitting

1638
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: on the sidelines or what's going on with the Saudis

1639
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: during this agreement?

1640
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 9: Well, there are a few ways to look at it.

1641
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 9: Number One, keep in mind that guts are and the

1642
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 9: Saudis and not necessarily in the best terms. We called

1643
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 9: that in the early days of Trump one point zero,

1644
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:12,799
Speaker 9: the Saudis were fundamentally blockading the Qataris and the Turks

1645
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 9: had to intervene on the side of the Kataris, and

1646
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 9: so perhaps this body's absence was due to that. And

1647
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 9: in any case, the Saudis are not necessarily happy, as

1648
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 9: are many Arabs with the Israelis, because of their seven

1649
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 9: eight Front war, bombing Lebanon, bombing Syria, of bombing Gaza,

1650
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 9: terrorizing the West Bank, et cetera. And that's one of

1651
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,919
Speaker 9: the reasons why many expect this struggle not only to continue,

1652
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 9: but to escalate.

1653
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be worse before the agreement,

1654
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: because now they're saying that even reports to some of

1655
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: the bodies that came back weren't Israelis, and they're seeing

1656
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: that as a sort of an insult from the fighters

1657
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 1: against Now let's get right now, every Palestine is a

1658
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: member of Hamas, and there's some reporting in fightings not

1659
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: just inside of Hamas but with other liberation groups if

1660
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: you will, in Gaza. Are you hearing reports about that?

1661
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 9: Well? Sure, I mean there are certain gangs or gangsters

1662
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 9: in Gaza that are tied to his Israelies that are

1663
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 9: tasks with liquidating Commas. But on a more positive note,

1664
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:37,560
Speaker 9: we should mark the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners,

1665
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 9: including those who have been affiliated with the PFLP, the

1666
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 9: Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which is a

1667
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 9: more left leaning group, and I think that the release

1668
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 9: of many of those prisoners should be marked as a

1669
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 9: significant step forward.

1670
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Well, I guess at fifteen at the time of the

1671
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: family just checking in, I guess it's doctor Jerald Horns,

1672
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: also attorney by the way, and he's going to be

1673
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: in town this weekend. We'll tell you more about that.

1674
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: But doctor Horn, do you think one of those distant

1675
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: groups there would would would start to start something so

1676
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: that the process restarts with the Israel or Israel's got

1677
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: one of the you know, because the massade has got

1678
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: their tentacles on a lot of issues, a lot of places,

1679
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Do you think that could be

1680
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 1: some agent provocateur did start some stuff gone because they

1681
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: already they claimed that Hamas is executing people on the

1682
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: streets to give them us an excuse for the IDF

1683
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 1: to go back into Gaza or Trump to get involved

1684
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: as well. How do you see that play out?

1685
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 9: Well, I think that it's somethident that there are Israeli

1686
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 9: agents on the ground in Gaza, with regard to these

1687
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 9: lump and elements, the so called gangsters who have historic

1688
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 9: ties to Israel despite their rather grimy origins, recalled that

1689
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 9: it was not so long ago that one of the

1690
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 9: leaders of these gangs had a hotbed piece of the

1691
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 9: Wall Street Journal of all things. And I think that

1692
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 9: that was an attempt by the United States and Israel

1693
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 9: to build up these gangster forces so that they can

1694
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 9: effectuate a more stiff challenge to Hamaque than the PFLP.

1695
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,440
Speaker 1: So the bomb line is sixteen at the top of the

1696
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: plan to just liberate, just to just level guys and

1697
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: build that strip that Trump has been talking and his

1698
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 1: son in law is talking about. That's still in the game, Ben,

1699
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 1: isn't it well to a degree?

1700
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 9: But we have to mark also on the positive side

1701
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 9: of the ledger that for months, since October seventh, twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty three, mister nets and Yaho of Israel has been

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Speaker 9: arguing that his goal, his ambition, was to destroy Amoth,

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Speaker 9: and that obviously has not taken place. In fact, mister Netsana,

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Speaker 9: who dug himself a deep hole by attacking Gutter just

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Speaker 9: a few weeks ago, you were called which was not

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Speaker 9: necessarily in his best interest because the guitar is that

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Speaker 9: given a lot of money to the Trump regime recalled.

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Speaker 9: They gave a two hundred million for the mid million

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Speaker 9: dollar plane to mister Trump for his personal presumably post

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Speaker 9: presidential adventures, for example. And with that bombing of Gutter,

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Speaker 9: that accelerated pressure on Israel, which has now led them

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Speaker 9: to this agreement where they fundamentally had to relinquish their

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Speaker 9: ambition to liquid a Hamas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hold athorright there, weve gotta step aside for a

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Speaker 1: few moments. It's seventeen after the top, they only come

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Speaker 1: back there. Let's move over to the government shutdown. I

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Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on that. Family YouTube can

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Speaker 1: join our discussion with doctor Gerald Horn. Reach out to

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six table holephone calls next and Grand Rising family.

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Speaker 1: If I'm just starting, you have Wednesday with us twenty

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Speaker 1: one minutes after the top of that, we want to

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Speaker 1: our top scholars, doctor Gerald Horney. As I mentioned, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be in the DMV this weekend. I always

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Speaker 1: tell you whenever our scholars come to town, make sure

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Speaker 1: you go see them in the flesh and we're going

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Speaker 1: to give you all the information where doctor Horney said

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Speaker 1: you can meet him. He's got a new book and

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Speaker 1: he's going to have a book signing. But before we

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Speaker 1: move over to state side, I got a tweet from

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Speaker 1: Marca Anaheim and Mark says, he says hello, and he

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Speaker 1: says he used to coach and mentor female surfers from

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Speaker 1: Peru and Morocco. Morocco has become the latest North African

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Speaker 1: nation rocked by gen Z worldwide protest against corruption, lack

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Speaker 1: of opportunity in business as usual. Similar movements of risen

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Speaker 1: in countries such as Madagascar, Kenya and Nepal. Yet there's

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Speaker 1: little or no coverage in mainstream media. And he wants

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Speaker 1: to know why that.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think in the case of Morocco, the king

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Speaker 9: and robot is considered a US ally. Certainly puts us

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Speaker 9: a Cuba or Venezuela, for example, it would be on

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Speaker 9: the front page. But these protests need to be taken

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Speaker 9: very seriously. Apparently in Madagascar, is the giant island off

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Speaker 9: the southeast coast of Africa, there has been a military

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Speaker 9: cool Apparently the president has led on a French air plane.

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Speaker 9: It's not clear what the politics are thus far, that

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Speaker 9: is to say, whether it's a step backwards or what's

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Speaker 9: step forward. The King of Morocco thus far has been

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Speaker 9: able to hold on, but I would not necessarily bet

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Speaker 9: on this longevity.

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Speaker 1: Wow twenty two after the top down, Jane and Pakshaw's

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Speaker 1: joining us. He's online too, Jane. Your question for doctor

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Speaker 1: Horn is Seane there on line two.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm still here.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can hear now, go ahead. Your question for

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Speaker 1: doctor Horn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great grand rising.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: My question to you, doctor Horn is it's sort of like,

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Speaker 4: you know, being in the closet, we use a term

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Speaker 4: far left, and I think we have a I don't

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Speaker 4: know what you what you're gonna call it. I think

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Speaker 4: we've been disciplined by the uh, you know, people like

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Speaker 4: Ja Gohoover where we can't say the sea word communism.

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Speaker 4: And so when you say far left, are you implying

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Speaker 4: that that far left even in you know, and you

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Speaker 4: know what's going on now in the Middle East, is

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Speaker 4: that's what's going on. There's a leaning towards communism.

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Speaker 9: You mean historic public sons and gossip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know you you you you you reference

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Speaker 4: the far left and then we talk about, you know,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump being a Nazi, etcetera of the far right

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Speaker 4: and so these you know, this dimetric uh opposition to

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Speaker 4: each other, you know, going back to literally uh you know,

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Speaker 4: with the with with Hippola, with Hitler and uh, you

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Speaker 4: know coming into power and how he came into power

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Speaker 4: and his anti communist position, and the far right today

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Speaker 4: is still anti communism. But we don't I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, the word communism is is a closet word.

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Speaker 4: The only place I actually hear them u uh people

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Speaker 4: talk about being communist is on PFW. So again, you know,

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Speaker 4: is this what we're talking about when we talk about

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Speaker 4: the far left is factly we're afraid to move that

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Speaker 4: far left.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm not sure if I understand the question. But

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Speaker 9: in any case, you have so called far left elements

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Speaker 9: in the United States of America. That does not mean

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Speaker 9: the United States of America is leaning itself to the

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Speaker 9: far left. You have so called farm left outlets and

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Speaker 9: historic Palestine. That does not necessarily mean that Palestine is

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Speaker 9: headed towards quote communism unquote. You have to realize that

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Speaker 9: there are diverse ideological trends worldwide, and it's only fair

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Speaker 9: to say that you have communist and power in Cuba

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Speaker 9: and North Korea, the people who popular of China, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: In other countries, you just have these elements participating in politics.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Gan twenty five out the top now

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Speaker 1: with doctor Jerald Hoan, doctor Horne. The government shutdown in

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Speaker 1: two weeks now today, what does it look like? What's

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Speaker 1: what do you think is going to take to end

1802
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: to stand Often, well, both.

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Speaker 9: Sides are dug in. I think that mister Trump is

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Speaker 9: in some ways trying to effectuate a council revolution. That

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Speaker 9: is to say, under the Constitution, Congress has the power

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Speaker 9: of the perse in terms of making appropriations. But slowly

1807
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 9: but surely, mister Trump is taking that power away from Congress.

1808
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 9: I dare say if it gets to the US Supreme Court,

1809
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Speaker 9: as ever, they will roll over and put their rubber

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Speaker 9: stamp on mister Trump's wizard seizure of power and given

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Speaker 9: to high stakes. Given the fact that the Democrats feel

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Speaker 9: that they have a winning issue with regard to these

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Speaker 9: healthcare subsidies, given the fact that the Republicans have high

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Speaker 9: stakes with regard to this revolutionary measure, I think that

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Speaker 9: the shutdown will continue for some time become particularly if

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Speaker 9: the air traffic controllers they on the job, which it

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Speaker 9: seems they will do. If they were to the job,

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Speaker 9: there would be chaos, It would disrupt business, It would

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Speaker 9: inevitably lead to some sort of negotiated settlement.

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Speaker 1: What about his threat to fire people from the federal government.

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Speaker 1: Should they take that seriously?

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Speaker 9: I think it should be taken seriously. The problem is

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Speaker 9: the US Supreme Court, because mister Trump can basically do anything,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter if it passes constitutional muster. A five

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Speaker 9: to four majority will put their rubber stamp on his actions.

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Speaker 9: And so you may recall that a few months ago,

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Speaker 9: when there was a threat of a government shut down

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Speaker 9: in the spring, that the Democrats did not move in

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Speaker 9: that direction because precisely they thought that there would It

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Speaker 9: would lead to reductions in force, it would lead to

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Speaker 9: mass layoffs, and apparently there have been mass layoffs, particularly

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Speaker 9: at the Center for Deep Disease Controls and Prevention, which

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Speaker 9: means that we're more jeopardy if another pandemic erupts. So

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Speaker 9: these leaders, particularly Republican leaders, are playing with fire.

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Speaker 1: And now he's paying the militaries. Today's the military folks

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Speaker 1: are we're upset because today's paid and now he says

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Speaker 1: he's found some money to pay them. But I was

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Speaker 1: taught that Congress controls the purse strings. How can he

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Speaker 1: decide who gets paid and who doesn't get paid, and

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01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: how a tax pay is money by himself? How can

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Speaker 1: he do that?

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Speaker 9: Well, that's part of this counter revolutionary dictatorial maneuver by

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01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 9: mister Trump. He's trying to grab all of the reigns

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Speaker 9: of power. He unilaterally has destroyed entire agencies. The Voice

1845
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Speaker 9: of America, for example, is no longer on the air.

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01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 9: The Center for Disease Control is basically a wreck. There

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01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 9: is an attempt to defund the Smithsonian Museums, particularly the

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Speaker 9: National African American Museum. There's a move to defund public broadcasts,

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Speaker 9: which we'll turn off the spigot of funds to educational television,

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Speaker 9: for example, at a certain radio stations that carry the

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Speaker 9: public ass and what's again the US Supreme Court, If

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Speaker 9: it ever reaches that level, we'll probably say this is

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Speaker 9: teach you key, It's okay.

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Speaker 1: All right? Twenty eight after top a half family, just

1855
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: checking into doctor Jerald Horney's I guess I mentioned it's

1856
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Speaker 1: going to be in town this weekend, we're going to

1857
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: give you information where you can see doctor Horn. Also

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01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: get a copy of his latest book. He's gotten written

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01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: several books. But Kathy and Maryland is checking in and

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Speaker 1: she's online.

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Speaker 5: Two.

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Speaker 1: Kathy grand Rising, your question for doctor Horn?

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Speaker 12: Grand Rising, Carl grand Rising, Doctor Horn, how you guys

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01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 12: doing today?

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Speaker 9: It's all good, good good.

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Speaker 12: Just wanted to jump in on the conversation you guys

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Speaker 12: were having and.

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Speaker 13: Express my thoughts. So if we can start out with

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Speaker 13: the conversation you were.

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Speaker 12: Just having about the far left versus the far right.

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Speaker 12: I think terminology is so important that people don't know

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Speaker 12: the words and the meaning of words, because if you

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Speaker 12: can help me, can you define what they or who

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Speaker 12: they would consider to be a far left advocate, like

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Speaker 12: what are those traits?

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Speaker 13: What are they advocating for? And that's a question if

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Speaker 13: you can help me, and then.

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Speaker 4: They can go on well.

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Speaker 9: Traditionally, when the term four left is intvoked, it's pointing

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Speaker 9: to those who are communists and socialists, that is to say,

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Speaker 9: they see a larger role for government in the economy,

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Speaker 9: which of course you already have. I mean, you have

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Speaker 9: government universities, you have government controlled streets and highways, for example.

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Speaker 9: But what mister trying to do is suggests that the Democrats,

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Speaker 9: right for all of good purposes, are not a four

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Speaker 9: left party. He's trying to say that they'refore left because

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Speaker 9: there's deep anti communists, anti left wing resentments, and a

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Speaker 9: good over the populace, and so he's trying to say

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Speaker 9: that they are the forms, which is obviously ridiculous.

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Speaker 13: Parent right, Which that's thank you for that, because that's

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Speaker 13: literally my point. So the joke is people, their people

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Speaker 13: use words, don't know what the meaning of the words are. Right,

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Speaker 13: we were already in a partial communist you know, construct

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01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 13: because of public everything. But and then for them, the

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Speaker 13: ones that are actually now advocating for communism but taking

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Speaker 13: over of government, social services institutions, media, that's what they're

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Speaker 13: literally doing right now, that's the truest definition of communism.

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Speaker 12: But then they want to paint someone that wants universal

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Speaker 12: health care affordable housing as left leaning. So to me,

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Speaker 12: that narrative been constructed by the Republicans, and the mainstream media.

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Speaker 13: Has consistently allowed that lie to perpetrate.

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Speaker 12: And now we have stupid people, just dumb.

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Speaker 13: Words, Mark and socialists, and they have no idea what

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Speaker 13: any of.

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Speaker 12: Those words mean. And so I think that and then

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01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 12: and then the regarding the Congress Congress, the Republican Congress

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01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 12: abdicated their duty in order to.

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Speaker 13: Follow a cult member, a cult leader.

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Speaker 12: So the next question, and then I'll get off the air,

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Speaker 12: is we've talked about critical mass before and all that, but.

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Speaker 13: Do you think there is a true process for mass

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Speaker 13: de cultification of these people?

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Speaker 12: They're they're coming.

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Speaker 14: Out slowly and surely, but not too much.

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Speaker 13: Because if you saw the news yesterday with all those

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Speaker 13: top GOP operatives with their leak and their you know,

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Speaker 13: very deplorable words that they used to affiliate with people,

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Speaker 13: I think there are starting to be breaks in their eggshells.

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Speaker 12: Marjorie Taylor Green. But the nation as a.

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Speaker 13: Whole, especially them and some of us, need to go

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Speaker 13: a decultification.

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Speaker 12: And I'm wondering if you've seen any of that in

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Speaker 12: history where that can be done.

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Speaker 4: And that's my question.

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Speaker 12: I appreciate you guys, thank you so much, and.

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Speaker 1: Miss thanks Kathy. Doctor horn.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's going to be difficult in the United States

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Speaker 9: of America that have a so called decultification because the

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Speaker 9: cult leaders and members hold the reins of power.

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Speaker 6: So why should they.

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Speaker 9: Engage in mind cleansing of themselves because they see things

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Speaker 9: are going well for them right now. So I don't

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Speaker 9: really see that happening. I think we're at a bumpy

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Speaker 9: rock going.

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Speaker 1: Is this deliberate though, doctor Horn? Do you think they're

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Speaker 1: deliberately trying to take that the you know, push the

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Speaker 1: government over the cliff? And if so, that be the

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Speaker 1: end of the United States? Is we know it? And

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Speaker 1: if so, if that's if that's their game plan, what

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Speaker 1: do we do because obviously same thing happening in in Rome,

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Speaker 1: happening it with the UK, the Brits, and they survive.

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Speaker 1: So if that's their game plan, what a is we

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Speaker 1: have black folks in this country, what we should we

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Speaker 1: should be doing well.

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Speaker 9: I think that it is highly possible that there are

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Speaker 9: those in power now who would like to destroy the

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Speaker 9: United States of America as I presently exists. Recalled that

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Speaker 9: we fought a civil war eighteen sixty one to eighteen

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Speaker 9: sixty five, and they were on the losing side. But

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Speaker 9: in a certain stance, we're still fighting the civil war

1951
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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty five. I think that black people in

1952
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Speaker 9: the United States have lost a fundamental lesson which is

1953
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Speaker 9: that central to our ability to fight back has been

1954
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Speaker 9: building international alliances. But we've fallen asleep on the job

1955
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Speaker 9: with regard to building international alliances. I mean, this is

1956
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Speaker 9: one of the few places where you can go and

1957
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Speaker 9: here even news about what's going on in Morocco and Madagascar,

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Speaker 9: as we were just talking about. Until our organizations, but

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Speaker 9: ti Alo, the NAACP, which is the leading mass organization,

1960
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Speaker 9: is able to reorient itself. I think that we're going

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Speaker 9: to be in deep and desperate trouble.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty six away from the top of Doctor Horne,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts, and this morning as we speak, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna hold hearings that will will restrict if they agree,

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Speaker 1: they got to vote on it, of course later on

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Speaker 1: on voting rights for blacks. How do you see? How

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Speaker 1: do you see what's going on with it? You mentioned

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Speaker 1: already the Supreme Court in which the Roberts Courts, as

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Speaker 1: they call themselves, which way they are tilting. But how

1970
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Speaker 1: devastating this ruling that's gonna have when it comes down,

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Speaker 1: because today all they're going to do is have hearings.

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Speaker 1: Have devastating will it be if they rule against us?

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Speaker 9: Oh, it will be devastating for sure. That is the state.

1974
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Speaker 9: The Voting Whites Act of nineteen sixty five, along with

1975
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Speaker 9: the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four, those were

1976
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Speaker 9: the crown jewels of the anti Jim Crow movement. So

1977
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Speaker 9: when you toss overboard the Voting Whites Act of nineteen

1978
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Speaker 9: sixty five, you're taking us back in a sense to

1979
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Speaker 9: the era of Jim Crow, your eroding black political power.

1980
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Speaker 9: And the only thing that's left is the Civil Rights

1981
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Speaker 9: Act of nineteen sixty four. And therefore I think that

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Speaker 9: it means once again we're in desperate streets.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything we can basically do? Because if they do,

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Speaker 1: if the Roberts Courts are ruled, and they'll probably issue

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Speaker 1: the ruling later in the term, if they do that,

1986
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Speaker 1: what's our move is it? If all those black areas,

1987
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Speaker 1: it would be the Republicans can jerry man of these

1988
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Speaker 1: areas and keep it and keep their people in office.

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Speaker 1: Is it a one party state? Is that their game plan?

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Speaker 9: That's certainly their game plan. But already their counter moves

1991
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Speaker 9: we called that on the ballot shortly in California would

1992
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Speaker 9: be a move to redistrict the congressional delegation to push

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Speaker 9: out the Republican that needs to be replicated, for example

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Speaker 9: in so called blue states like Illinois and Michigan, and

1995
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Speaker 9: then the northeast for example. However, the Republicans already are

1996
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Speaker 9: moving to redistrict in North Carolina to push out the

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Speaker 9: few Democrats there. They're moving to redistrict in the state

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Speaker 9: of Missouri and push out the black representative from Kansas City,

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Speaker 9: for example. But once again, those are just tactical maneuvers.

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Speaker 9: On the strategic level, we really need a reorientation in

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Speaker 9: terms of how we approach political power, which means once

2002
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Speaker 9: again forging global alliances to put pressure on the US right,

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Speaker 9: and that, it seems to me, is the way to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to step aside for a few moments.

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Speaker 1: We come back, though, I'm not seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: pushback from the Democratic Party, and I hear we're going

2007
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Speaker 1: to be impacted the most if this voting rise measure

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Speaker 1: goes down. So I'm looking for, you know, some friend

2009
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Speaker 1: of the court's ruling or filing from the Democrats. Haven't

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Speaker 1: seen any yet. Maybe there is, though I want you

2011
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Speaker 1: to address that why the Democrats are not showing more resistance.

2012
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Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes away from the top of the our family.

2013
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Speaker 1: I guess it's doctor Gerald Horn. You got a question

2014
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Speaker 1: about anything anything on this planet, you can reach us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2016
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Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us on this

2018
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. That means we're halfway

2019
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Speaker 1: through the work week. It's downhill all the way from

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Speaker 1: now on. I guess there is doctor Gerald Horn from

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Speaker 1: the University of Houston. And as I mentioned before the break,

2022
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Speaker 1: you got any question entertainment, sports, anything on the planet

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Speaker 1: under the son, doctor Horn is one of our smart brothers.

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Speaker 1: He can answer it. Before we go back to him though,

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Speaker 1: And I got another tweet question from Mark from Anaheim.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, just onet of mind folks

2027
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Speaker 1: that this is going to be a tribute to Asara

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Speaker 1: Shakur taking place today at bus Boys and Poets in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: So we're in the DMV please if you've got time,

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Speaker 1: it starts at six point thirty. Doctor Mark Lamont Hill's

2031
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Speaker 1: coming down from Philly to host This is going to

2032
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Speaker 1: be a bus ballsion of poets. As I mentioned, this

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Speaker 1: one on fourteenth and V and tomorrow we're going to

2034
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Speaker 1: discuss the thirtieth anniversary of the Milliam Man March with

2035
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Speaker 1: one of the architects of the Millium Man March that

2036
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Speaker 1: where they happen to be a creator, doctor Malana Karenga.

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Speaker 1: One of the first persons that Minister Farkhun called when

2038
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Speaker 1: he decided to put this gathering together was doctor Carrigan.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kearenga actually wrote the manifesto for the Million Man March.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to take us back thirty years ago,

2041
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Speaker 1: all the planning and what went into it, how he

2042
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Speaker 1: came over to write the manifesto for the Million Man March.

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Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep

2044
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Speaker 1: your radiar locked in real tight on ten ten WLB

2045
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Speaker 1: or if you're in the DMV, we're on FM ninety

2046
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Speaker 1: five point nine and AM fourteen fifty WOL. All right,

2047
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Speaker 1: I just had a question from Mark Manaheim. Another tweet

2048
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Speaker 1: he says last week on his podcast, Maga passed that

2049
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Speaker 1: I don't sure if you're familiar with this through it,

2050
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Speaker 1: Brian Suave called for rebellious black men to be executed

2051
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Speaker 1: according to biblical standards. Suggesting that state authority should kill

2052
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Speaker 1: black men according to the law prescribed in Deuteronomy twenty

2053
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Speaker 1: one of the Christian Bible. Now that patch passage, it

2054
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Speaker 1: says that parents should take rebellious rebellious children to the

2055
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Speaker 1: center of the town, have the community elders stone them

2056
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Speaker 1: to death for being glutton and a drunkard. Any comments

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Speaker 1: that's from Mark from Anaheim.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, that's obviously ridiculous, it's ludicrous, But at

2059
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Speaker 9: the same time it should be taken seriously because this

2060
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Speaker 9: country is headed downhill rapidly, and what seemed unimaginable just

2061
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Speaker 9: months ago seems to be a subject for discussion today.

2062
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Speaker 9: And that's how I take that.

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Speaker 1: Tweaks of Mark from Anaheim got you seventeen away from

2064
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Speaker 1: the top of the Let's go back to international stuff

2065
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Speaker 1: that's going on. These intensions arising between China and the US.

2066
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wants to add more tariffs to the Chinese goods.

2067
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts about that, Well.

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Speaker 9: What's happened is that China is limiting the export of

2069
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Speaker 9: socar minerals to the United States of America, which are

2070
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Speaker 9: necessary for fighter jets or iPhones, for automobiles, any kind

2071
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Speaker 9: of sophisticated machinery. Mister Trump initially said that there would

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Speaker 9: be one hundred percent tariff added to the thirty percent

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Speaker 9: tariff on Chinese goods, but then he left himself a

2074
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Speaker 9: way out by noting that in a few weeks he'll

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Speaker 9: meet with the Chinese leader in Seoul. I think that

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Speaker 9: people in the United States need to realize that there

2077
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Speaker 9: has fundamentally been a shift and China now has leverage

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Speaker 9: over the United States of America. Although I think people

2079
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Speaker 9: had gotten comfortable with the idea that the United States

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Speaker 9: of America has leverage over China, but I think the

2081
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Speaker 9: relationship has shifted and that is going to have monumental consequences.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, By the way, family, just got to know

2083
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Speaker 1: from for on our list, is that that event tonight

2084
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Speaker 1: at Busboy and Poets on fourteenth and V has been

2085
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Speaker 1: sold out. So if you didn't get your ticket, you're

2086
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Speaker 1: out of luck. That the celebration for Assada Hikod doctor

2087
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Speaker 1: Mark Lamont Hill, it's sold out, So hopefully I'll tape

2088
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Speaker 1: it and you could watch it on YouTube. But let's

2089
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Speaker 1: talk about some more tensions between the United States. You know,

2090
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Speaker 1: right now the United States and Russia. It seems that

2091
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump he's going to be with the head of

2092
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Speaker 1: the Ukraine on Friday at the White House, and they're

2093
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Speaker 1: thinking about increasing the military for Ukraine to fight the Russians,

2094
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Speaker 1: and the Russians are pushing back. What do you know that,

2095
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Speaker 1: doctor Horn.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's the possibility. I think that if

2097
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Speaker 9: you look back to mid August twenty twenty five, the

2098
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Speaker 9: Elaska stomach, I think that mister Trump was trying to

2099
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Speaker 9: woo mister Putin. He was trying to woo him specifically

2100
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Speaker 9: into an anti China aliance. Apparently Russia is not biting,

2101
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Speaker 9: and since that time, mister Trump has referred derisively to

2102
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Speaker 9: Russia as a paper tiger. He's threatened to send so

2103
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Speaker 9: called Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, which would allow the Ukrainians

2104
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Speaker 9: to fire missiles deep into Russian territory. But it's very dangerous,

2105
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Speaker 9: it could ignite enhance. It's an intensified conflict. And I

2106
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Speaker 9: should also say that mister Trump is also ruling Russia's allies,

2107
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Speaker 9: speaking of Belarus for example. That has everything to do

2108
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Speaker 9: with tightening the screws on Russia, which mister Trump sees

2109
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Speaker 9: is a precondition to getting Russia to capitulate and join

2110
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Speaker 9: the anti China cabal.

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Speaker 1: Well, having said that doctor Harn that natz own family

2112
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Speaker 1: is concerned, the Brits are concerned, should they be? Especially

2113
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Speaker 1: Poland is concerned as well that the Putin is not

2114
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Speaker 1: selling wolf tickets. This is what real deal is happening.

2115
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Speaker 1: This could be the precursor for World War three. How

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Speaker 1: do you see it?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it should be taken very seriously. I

2118
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Speaker 9: mean particularly Poland. Poland is arming. They said that they

2119
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Speaker 9: might even Christian a so called fort Trump, which indicates

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Speaker 9: what their pre elections are. Germany is an occupied country

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Speaker 9: and it's the locomotive of the European Union. That is

2122
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Speaker 9: to say, if the country where US troops still occupy

2123
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Speaker 9: this important country since nineteen forty five, and therefore the

2124
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Speaker 9: Germans do not necessarily have freedom of movement with regard

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Speaker 9: to how they can't confront Russia. They have to dance

2126
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Speaker 9: to the tune played by Uncle Sam. So this is

2127
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Speaker 9: a very dangerous moment and we should not sleep on

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Speaker 9: this moment.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if Putin retaliates, it will be Poland

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Speaker 1: will be first on his list, or do you think

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Speaker 1: that other plays of Germany or even the Brits are

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Speaker 1: concern I've been reading some of these newspapers. They seem

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Speaker 1: to be have some concern that Putin may come after them.

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Speaker 9: I think all of the above. I mean, the British

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Speaker 9: in particular have been rather hawkish in their anti Russian sentiments.

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Speaker 9: And this is nothing new. You can say, it goes

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Speaker 9: back to the nineteenth century, if not before. With regard

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Speaker 9: to Poland, once again, there have been historic conflicts between

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Speaker 9: Russia and Poland, once again going back to the nineteenth century,

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Speaker 9: if not before, and get talked for German and so

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Speaker 9: I think mister Trump, once again he's playing with matches.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't really know what he's doing, and therefore we're

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Speaker 9: fundamentally trapped on the ship of fools, with the Admiral

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Speaker 9: Trump at the wheel leading us towards an Iceberg.

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Speaker 1: Wow twelve away from the top of the robin in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's Online two has a question for you Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising Robert. Your question for doctor.

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Speaker 10: Horn, Well, actually I was going to talk about the

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Speaker 10: drug cartels, but I'm gonna switch it over to Hamas.

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Speaker 10: Here's my thing, Dr Horn. I compare what Hamas is

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Speaker 10: doing in Palestine to me being held up in my

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Speaker 10: ninety plus year old parents' house with a pellet gun

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Speaker 10: going up against the swat team outside, you know, and

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02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 10: they keep telling me, hey, as long as you keep

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Speaker 10: shooting at pelat gun, that's we're gonna keep launching a

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Speaker 10: grenades in the house. So why would I put my

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Speaker 10: parents in that type of harms way when I know

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Speaker 10: I can't I can't outstun a swipeing. So here's my

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Speaker 10: question to you. I feel like Harmas has got to go,

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Speaker 10: you know, I mean, what's gonna happen is is is

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Speaker 10: the is the what do you call that government?

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Speaker 5: That's palace?

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Speaker 10: Are they gonna take over? Or is Hama's gonna continue

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Speaker 10: to governing?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Uh Gaza.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that mister Trump and mister Natiyahu would

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Speaker 9: like to see Harmas depart, but that does not seem

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Speaker 9: to be a realistic option as of now. I think

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Speaker 9: that Harmas will can continue to have a fair amount

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Speaker 9: of support amongst the Palestinian population, which after all, is

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Speaker 9: the key. There's still remaining on the scene as long

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Speaker 9: as the Israeli it's a terrorizing as long as the

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Speaker 9: snufflers are terrorizing Palestinians or the West Bank as long

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Speaker 9: as the Israeli is a bombing civision killing tens of

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Speaker 9: thousands of innocent Palestinians. Mister Netanyahu, facing charges at the

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Speaker 9: International Criminal Court would call them. When he came to

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Speaker 9: the United States a few days ago, he had to

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Speaker 9: avoid French airspace because he felt that the French would

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Speaker 9: force down his plane and arrest him and bundle them

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Speaker 9: off to the Haye to stand trial. So I'm not

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Speaker 9: sure if a getting rid of a mosque is.

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Speaker 10: Reasonable and b if it's duable.

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Speaker 6: And just one more.

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Speaker 10: Thing I know called other callers. I know that Hamas

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Speaker 10: was not at the table when they were signing this

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Speaker 10: piece of deal. They had the Palestinian Authority president there.

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Speaker 10: So I feel like the United States they're getting ready

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Speaker 10: to deal with them as they're going to put them

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Speaker 10: as making them the government there instead of Mons. That's

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Speaker 10: my personal opinion. But anyway, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, thanks Robert doctor horn Well.

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Speaker 9: I know that that's the scheme to have the Palace

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Speaker 9: in the Authority takeover in Gaza, but that has been

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Speaker 9: the scheme for some months, if not years now, and

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Speaker 9: it hasn't taken place, and I don't think it's going

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Speaker 9: to take place anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, nine away from the top of that's just

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Speaker 1: the Kashiva is checking in from Silver Spring. Are you

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Speaker 1: going to be in Silver Spring? Is that think the

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Speaker 1: site you're going to be in this weekend? Dr Horn?

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Speaker 9: Yes, Montgomery College in Silver Spring, Maryland, Friday, October seventeenth,

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Speaker 9: six thirty pm. A book launch of my latest book,

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Speaker 9: The Capital of Slavery, Washington, DC, eighteen hundred to eighteen

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Speaker 9: sixty five, of course with contemporary echoes.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Sister Kashiva, she lives in Silver Stream.

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Speaker 1: She'll probably be there, Grand Rising, Sister Kashiva. Your question

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Speaker 1: for doctor Horn, Yes, will be there.

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Speaker 15: I wonder if doctor Horn or if you Carl have

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Speaker 15: spoken out about the two internet vloggers who are attacking

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Speaker 15: doctor Ericana, referring to her as a scammer. She is

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Speaker 15: taking around a thousand African Americans to Bakina Fasso, and

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02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,120
Speaker 15: apparently there are a couple of people who have gotten

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Speaker 15: online and are slandering and defaming her character, saying that

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02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 15: she is scamming them on this for this trip.

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Speaker 5: Have you heard about dot com?

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Speaker 9: I'm not aware of those allegations, but salute anyone who

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Speaker 9: stands in solidarity with the Kinna Fosco and mister chare

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02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:52,760
Speaker 9: the de facto leader of that African nation because they're

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Speaker 9: in the vanguard fighting against the poverty, fighting against some girls.

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Speaker 9: I'm also fighting against religious double try as well. In fact,

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Speaker 9: I was on the air just a few days ago

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Speaker 9: with the young sister from the United States who is

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Speaker 9: exiled in the Kina Fosso and that issue did not

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Speaker 9: come up, So I would like to know more about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems.

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Speaker 15: They are of offering a citizenship to these one thousand

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Speaker 15: people and reneging on the promise of citizenship. Doctor Eric

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Speaker 15: Kinda doesn't have anything to do with what the Burkina

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Speaker 15: Fossil Parliament has said. They will give uh, not citizenship,

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Speaker 15: but they will give what's akin to citizenship, a limited

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02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 15: not a visa where you can stay for a limited

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Speaker 15: amount of time and then you can pay pay for

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Speaker 15: then you can apply for citizenship.

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Speaker 1: Somebody, let me just jump in here, because these bloggers

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Speaker 1: are trying to get become intimate in celebrities stuff like that.

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02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:03,640
Speaker 1: It's just way out. Just ignore them. People got to

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02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:06,680
Speaker 1: be more discerning when they hear folks who if they're

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Speaker 1: attacking black people. First of all, they're attacking a black person.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's straight up that they don't they

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Speaker 1: don't get a second of my attention and and and

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Speaker 1: that's what we just kick them to the curb. Now,

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Speaker 1: you've elevated them by bringing on this program to discuss them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking you because because you saw it,

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02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:26,400
Speaker 1: but some things you just it's not even worth discussing.

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02:17:26,840 --> 02:17:29,400
Speaker 1: Those people are there. They're paid to what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: and they were finished. They're paid to what they're doing,

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02:17:32,640 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 1: so they they they're not going to change, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to deviate because this is this is what they

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Speaker 1: paid to do, disrupt the black community. But I'll leave that.

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Speaker 1: I'll let doctor Horn respond to that because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he's heard that, and there are other groups like that

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Speaker 1: out there as well. That's Horn.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's just said. I'm not familiar with these allegations,

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Speaker 9: but I do know that I'm in solidarity with any

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Speaker 9: efforts to stand alongside for Kennefoso welcome by black Americans

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Speaker 9: to this West African nation, because that also is an

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Speaker 9: expression of solidarity. And more than that, I cannot add.

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02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 15: Yes, well, she she had to defend herself. She was

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Speaker 15: online yesterday defending herself against those allegations, so I think

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Speaker 15: she said enough. But I just want to for people

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Speaker 15: to be aware of when they hear those kind of things,

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Speaker 15: as Carl said, to ignore it.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me share this really hit you interrupt. They've

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Speaker 1: been trying for They've been trying for for months, probably years,

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them trying to get in on

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Speaker 1: this program. They really want your ears because they know

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Speaker 1: how many people listen, and we just see through them

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Speaker 1: and just reject them. You know, some summarily don't even

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Speaker 1: not not even considered. But that's because that's why I

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02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:51,360
Speaker 1: speak the West, because I know they've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get in, trying to become his guest, trying to offer

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Speaker 1: this a solution, or trying to use uh secondary folks

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02:18:57,680 --> 02:18:59,520
Speaker 1: who are connected them to get on, and we just

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02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 1: say no, because we could we understand what the game is.

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Speaker 15: But no, no, yeah, I don't want you to I

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Speaker 15: don't want you to use your platform as a war.

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Speaker 15: But they are offering citizenship, not citizenship, but permanent residency

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Speaker 15: to those individuals. I just wanted to say that, all right,

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Speaker 15: thank you.

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Speaker 1: For sharing that with us. Doctor see listen, We've got

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Speaker 1: to take a step aside for a few moments here.

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02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:24,320
Speaker 1: We'll come back though, we want to talk about Venezuela.

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02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 1: I got a tweet from from one of our listeners. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's going on with Dure family.

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02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:33,039
Speaker 1: YouTube can join our conversation with our guests, Doctor Gerald Horn.

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Speaker 1: Dr Horn said mention, it's one of the smartest brothers

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02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:37,120
Speaker 1: out there. It's going to be in Silver Spring this weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you're in the DMV, you need to attend. I

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02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 1: always tell her whenever our scholars come to town, make

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02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:42,760
Speaker 1: sure you get a chance to see them. We'll give

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02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:44,640
Speaker 1: you more information on how you can get in touch

2293
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 1: with and see doctor Horn this weekend when he comes

2294
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:48,680
Speaker 1: to the DMV three away from the top of the aisle.

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02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:50,360
Speaker 1: Thoughs I mentioned, we got to step aside. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back with your phone calls at eight hundred and four

2297
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,560
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six for Dr Horn.

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Speaker 1: That's next and Grand Rising family. Thanks for flowing with

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Speaker 1: us on this Wednesday morning. Thanks staying with us all

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Speaker 1: morning along. I guess is doctor Gerald Horn from the

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Speaker 1: University of Houston and like I mentioned any question or

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Speaker 1: any subject you want. This is the man you need

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02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:10,840
Speaker 1: to pose those questions too. And again if you're in

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02:20:10,879 --> 02:20:13,160
Speaker 1: the DMV, it's going to be in Silver Spring this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you more about his event is having

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Speaker 1: a book signing. Let me just say this because somebody

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02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:20,200
Speaker 1: just reminded me. Tell folks that the problem why they

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02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 1: are attacking Pan Africans and black folks because they see

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Speaker 1: that Africa is rising people who are becoming aware, awoke,

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Speaker 1: if you will, starting on the continent with this Hound

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Speaker 1: Nations now state side. So this this what you see

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Speaker 1: the opposition, and it's a paid opposition. They're paid them

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Speaker 1: on radio that tries to get use different back channels

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02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:41,000
Speaker 1: to get on particular shows like this one to try

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Speaker 1: to delete or attack some of the things that they're

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Speaker 1: hearing about black people coming together. They don't want us

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02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:48,640
Speaker 1: to come together, as Bob Marley would say. They all

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02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:51,039
Speaker 1: they want to see is fussing and fighting. But we're

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02:20:51,080 --> 02:20:53,560
Speaker 1: not going to allow that here anyway. And it got

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Speaker 1: off my soapbox. I got a question for you from

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Speaker 1: a brother Man two in New York City. He says

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Speaker 1: China and Russia have deep financial ties to Venice and

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02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:06,040
Speaker 1: President Nicholas Maduro's government. Trump's ordered the military strikes and

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02:21:06,080 --> 02:21:08,720
Speaker 1: elects to Venezuela and drug boats a smoke screen to

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Speaker 1: disrupt China and Russia's influence in Venezuela and get the

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Speaker 1: US in control of Venezuelan and oil reserves and other

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Speaker 1: natural resources which are under the state's control.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a fair assumption. I mean, this

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02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 9: is once again a very dangerous situation. We've already talked

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Speaker 9: about the dangerous situation between the United States and Russia,

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02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 9: dangerous situation between the United States and China. Now we're

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Speaker 9: in the dangerous situation between the United States and Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: We haven't talked about these parent plans by the United

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Speaker 9: States to attack Mexico so called drug cartels attend to

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Speaker 9: the attacks on Venezuela. And so mister Trump is clearly

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Speaker 9: out of control. But we're the tax payers, We're the

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Speaker 9: ones who are paying for this madness, and we're the

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Speaker 9: ones that are going to be hurt if these other

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Speaker 9: countries choose to retaliate against the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: I go back to the fact, does he have to

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Speaker 1: get congressional appool Can he do this without asking Congress,

2342
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:10,440
Speaker 1: because it could you know, and this is probably the

2343
02:22:10,480 --> 02:22:13,320
Speaker 1: silly question because he's never asked Congress for anything, and

2344
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:15,400
Speaker 1: if he did that probably rub a stamp here anyway.

2345
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:17,560
Speaker 1: But it seems to be going on. He's acting like

2346
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:20,000
Speaker 1: a lone ranger on several issues. How do you see it?

2347
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Speaker 9: Well, sure, I mean on paper, Congress has the right

2348
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 9: to declare war, but that paper has been shredded not

2349
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:32,040
Speaker 9: only by mister Trump, but but by many of his predecessors.

2350
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Speaker 9: And as you've already suggested, even if he did take

2351
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Speaker 9: it to Congress, these cult numbers in the Republican Party

2352
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:40,160
Speaker 9: with no doubt love a stamp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Three after that, top Yeah. Leon's checking in from DC's

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Speaker 1: got a question for yours online too, Grant Rising, Leon,

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Speaker 1: your question for doctor.

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Speaker 16: Horn and Rising, gentlemen, do Horn racism? White supremacy has

2358
02:22:55,800 --> 02:22:58,840
Speaker 16: become a constant enterprise that has reached the point of

2359
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:03,600
Speaker 16: diminishing return yarns White America will get this understanding, seemingly

2360
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:08,160
Speaker 16: only after America hits the wall and falls completely. Everything

2361
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:11,360
Speaker 16: White America has done to attack Blacks has returned to

2362
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:16,600
Speaker 16: bite them back severely. Black slavery moved to civil war

2363
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 16: attack on the black family produce higher divorce rates and

2364
02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:27,400
Speaker 16: low white reproduction rates, proliferation of drugs, and black communities

2365
02:23:27,800 --> 02:23:31,520
Speaker 16: produce spent and all epidemic in their own community. Black

2366
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:37,039
Speaker 16: economic deprivation costs America trillions in debt and is currently

2367
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:42,040
Speaker 16: growing deeper. The backlash to presidential leadership to the rise

2368
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:46,440
Speaker 16: of criminal Trump and Project twenty five, Project twenty twenty five,

2369
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:50,760
Speaker 16: which targets blacks but hits their own quality of life

2370
02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:56,680
Speaker 16: even harder. When will white people learn that racism white

2371
02:23:56,720 --> 02:24:01,800
Speaker 16: supremacy only service to cause greater, more costly victimization of

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02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:06,360
Speaker 16: themselves and will that realization serve to stop the perpetuation

2373
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:10,560
Speaker 16: of this injustice which ultimately boomerangs back on them.

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Speaker 1: All right, and thank you for your question, leon doctor Horn.

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02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't hear anything I disagreed with. I'm not

2376
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:24,360
Speaker 9: even sure if there was a question inside that mini lecture,

2377
02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:28,200
Speaker 9: But I would just encourage the brother to keep studying

2378
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:32,040
Speaker 9: and also does write something so that others can denonstit

2379
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:34,679
Speaker 9: from his knowledge and wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Horn? What's going on in with the streets the

2381
02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:42,840
Speaker 1: National Guard being the national go being federalized to go

2382
02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:45,280
Speaker 1: on the streets and now there's attacking is somehow they've

2383
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:49,600
Speaker 1: selected Chicago as as this, I guess the standard they

2384
02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:51,959
Speaker 1: want to They've they've talked about Portland, They've talked about

2385
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:53,920
Speaker 1: some other cities as well, but it seems like Chicago.

2386
02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:56,760
Speaker 1: They want Chicago real bad. How do you see what's

2387
02:24:56,800 --> 02:24:58,840
Speaker 1: going on in the Windy City.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's obviously a dictatorial maneuver by mister Trump. He's

2389
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 9: threatened to jail the governor, Governor J. B. Pritzker, He's

2390
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:12,920
Speaker 9: threatened to jail the mayor, Mayor Johnson. Fortunately, in Chicago,

2391
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:16,040
Speaker 9: he may have picked on the wrong target because they

2392
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:21,440
Speaker 9: have a strong developed resistance movement. People are fighting back,

2393
02:25:22,120 --> 02:25:25,440
Speaker 9: and mister Trump may encounter his own water, his own

2394
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:29,040
Speaker 9: defeat in the city of the Big shoulders. We can

2395
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 9: only hope, so, you.

2396
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Know, And Barack Obama said, imagine if when he was president,

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Speaker 1: if he took the ask that the National Guard from

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02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 1: la from New York to go to Dallas and to

2399
02:25:40,280 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 1: patrol the streets at Dallasy, He said, do you imagine

2400
02:25:42,840 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 1: the pushback he would have gotten. Your thoughts on what

2401
02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 1: he's saying, Well, I think it's.

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02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 9: A long past time. Well, we in the United States

2403
02:25:50,120 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 9: are recognized, so obviously there's a double stamp. That is

2404
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:57,280
Speaker 9: to say, the Conservatives that once that are rules and

2405
02:25:57,400 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 9: those who are not conservative at Bubora by another set

2406
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:07,040
Speaker 9: of rules. The Conservatives have an advantage because they control

2407
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:12,960
Speaker 9: a majority of the settler descendant population, just as an Israel,

2408
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:17,760
Speaker 9: this is a settler colonial society. And in Israel, as

2409
02:26:17,800 --> 02:26:23,879
Speaker 9: you know, it's not enough for the majority of Palestinians

2410
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:27,920
Speaker 9: and those who are Jewish to embark on a certain course.

2411
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:30,920
Speaker 9: You have to have a majority of the Jewish population

2412
02:26:31,080 --> 02:26:33,080
Speaker 9: to embark on a certain course. In the United States,

2413
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:38,920
Speaker 9: we don't recognize because the Republicans have control over the

2414
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:43,920
Speaker 9: settler descendant vote pattern that gives them an advantage. And

2415
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,680
Speaker 9: therefore we start with a disadvantage which oftentimes we don't

2416
02:26:47,720 --> 02:26:51,480
Speaker 9: recognize because we drank the kool aid with regard to

2417
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:54,960
Speaker 9: this being the paragon of freedom and liberty and the

2418
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,280
Speaker 9: Constitution and taranties, free rights are all, which is a

2419
02:26:58,320 --> 02:26:59,640
Speaker 9: little more than propaganda.

2420
02:27:01,440 --> 02:27:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got another tweet question for you. Tweeta says,

2421
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 1: what does doctor Horn think of Maria Corina Machado, the

2422
02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:12,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Nobel Peace Prize winning from Venezuela. Is

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02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Maria Corina Machada an advocate of the international right wing

2424
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:18,640
Speaker 1: or a true supporter of democracy?

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02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:24,480
Speaker 9: Oh, she's obviously the former. I mean, she's basically welcome

2426
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:31,240
Speaker 9: me US military intervention into her homeland. She isn't hiding, supposedly,

2427
02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:34,160
Speaker 9: although the Nobel Committee was able to get a phone

2428
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:37,840
Speaker 9: call to her and her voice sounded strong and it

2429
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 9: does look like she's missing any meals. Mister Trump, of

2430
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:45,160
Speaker 9: course is jealous because he wanted the Nobel Prize, and

2431
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,040
Speaker 9: in fact, the Secretary of State Marco Rubio made me

2432
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:52,960
Speaker 9: in hot water for congratulating this Machado for winning the

2433
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:56,360
Speaker 9: Nobel Prize. Mister Trump may not be happy with that

2434
02:27:56,560 --> 02:27:57,759
Speaker 9: kind of congratulations.

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02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:03,199
Speaker 1: I heard that he actually recommended her to be before

2436
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:07,400
Speaker 1: all of this, that Marco Rubion and several other Republicans, uh,

2437
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, openly recommending her foot to get the Nobel Prize.

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02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard about that one.

2439
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:17,840
Speaker 9: Well, sure, And this also reflects the larger question, which

2440
02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:20,880
Speaker 9: is that mister Trump is obviously jealous of the Rock

2441
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:24,640
Speaker 9: Obama who received the Nobel Peace Press recall what happened

2442
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:28,440
Speaker 9: at that spectacle and Quantico Virginia. A few days ago

2443
02:28:28,760 --> 02:28:32,320
Speaker 9: when Secretary of War Pete Hexa some of all the

2444
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:37,279
Speaker 9: admirals and generals who speak, mister Trump, in his rambling remarks,

2445
02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:40,120
Speaker 9: once again began to talk about mister Obama, how he

2446
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:43,880
Speaker 9: is able to skip down steps where mister Trump has

2447
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:46,240
Speaker 9: to hold on to the rail, hold on as the banister,

2448
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:51,840
Speaker 9: mister Obama is occupying space. Mister Trump's brain ret free.

2449
02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Do you see that?

2450
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:56,720
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of times when he says anything,

2451
02:28:56,800 --> 02:29:01,039
Speaker 1: even when he was speaking in Egypt, he was heads.

2452
02:29:01,240 --> 02:29:03,840
Speaker 1: You're always talking about what somebody else did wrong. He's

2453
02:29:03,840 --> 02:29:06,560
Speaker 1: always pointed out by it. This is happened to buy it,

2454
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:10,240
Speaker 1: this is well, this is anto. But why is that

2455
02:29:10,360 --> 02:29:13,040
Speaker 1: a personality trade for him to always blame somebody else

2456
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:15,080
Speaker 1: or try to make himself look better? How do you

2457
02:29:15,200 --> 02:29:15,520
Speaker 1: see that.

2458
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:21,360
Speaker 9: Governor prisoner of Illinois as mister Trump seventy nine years old,

2459
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:26,879
Speaker 9: has dementia, That is, he's losing his marbles. And it's

2460
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:29,519
Speaker 9: hard to say because he was speaking in an incoherent

2461
02:29:29,640 --> 02:29:34,120
Speaker 9: fashion in twenty sixteen and he's still speaking in a

2462
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:37,600
Speaker 9: coherents fashion in twenty twenty five. Perhaps he had dementia

2463
02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:40,560
Speaker 9: in twenty sixteen. Who knows.

2464
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:44,119
Speaker 1: It's ten half the top there I was. I'm sure

2465
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:47,000
Speaker 1: you've quite a bit of listeners in the UK. That's

2466
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:50,359
Speaker 1: why I'm reading all these you you, these British newspapers.

2467
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:53,800
Speaker 1: But they are they problems over there with the conservationy

2468
02:29:53,959 --> 02:29:57,320
Speaker 1: in Britain under this new government.

2469
02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:02,199
Speaker 9: The Conservatives are I mean, here you had a party

2470
02:30:02,320 --> 02:30:04,160
Speaker 9: that's basically been the party.

2471
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:05,640
Speaker 6: Of government for decades.

2472
02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:11,320
Speaker 9: Recall the heyday of Margaret Thatcher, the Iron Lady, Recall

2473
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:15,240
Speaker 9: Benjamin Disraeli going back to the nineteenth century for example.

2474
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:20,560
Speaker 9: But now they are losing altitude, not least because of

2475
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 9: Nazelle Farage, the leader of the so called Reformed Party.

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02:30:24,879 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 9: In fact, if there were snap elections to be held

2477
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:32,840
Speaker 9: in Great Britain under Prime Minister Starmer of the Labor Party,

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02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 9: it's possible that the Conservatives would finish fourth behind Labor

2479
02:30:38,240 --> 02:30:42,119
Speaker 9: Reform and the Liberal Democrats. And that this is happening

2480
02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:46,920
Speaker 9: under the leading leadership of a woman of Nigerian ancestry

2481
02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:51,480
Speaker 9: who is supposedly the Prime Minister waiting, although don't hold

2482
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:54,119
Speaker 9: your breath or Kimney Batnach to take office.

2483
02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they seem to have similar problems that we

2484
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:00,080
Speaker 1: have here, especially when it comes to immigration. Now a

2485
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:04,440
Speaker 1: report about the people are protesting in London with the

2486
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,680
Speaker 1: red and white flag. That's the flag of Saint George.

2487
02:31:08,800 --> 02:31:11,600
Speaker 1: That's a different that's the flag of England as opposed

2488
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:14,880
Speaker 1: as the UK is made up for England, Ireland and

2489
02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Wales Scotland. So they were protesting the immigration issue and

2490
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:22,400
Speaker 1: they say immigrants are coming through the the what's it

2491
02:31:22,480 --> 02:31:25,760
Speaker 1: the English Channel from between England, between London and Paris.

2492
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:29,080
Speaker 1: So is that issue is they're trying to replicate what's

2493
02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:32,200
Speaker 1: going on here because there's a call to stop the

2494
02:31:32,200 --> 02:31:36,879
Speaker 1: immigration and increase in the UK that's similar to what's

2495
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:38,360
Speaker 1: going on here. Is that how you see it as

2496
02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:39,520
Speaker 1: well well?

2497
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:42,880
Speaker 9: Certainly the Reform Party, that's one of the issues that

2498
02:31:43,160 --> 02:31:48,280
Speaker 9: they hammer on relentless. As a matter of fact, they've

2499
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:55,160
Speaker 9: made suggesting how many migrants are in Britain legally and

2500
02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:58,960
Speaker 9: how they all need to be set back. So this

2501
02:31:59,360 --> 02:32:03,360
Speaker 9: is a very combustible situation in Great Britain and I

2502
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:07,480
Speaker 9: don't think the Prime Minister Starmer is helping matters because

2503
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,840
Speaker 9: he is more or less bending to the win with

2504
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:15,720
Speaker 9: regard to this anti immigrant psychosis. And I don't think

2505
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:17,160
Speaker 9: that that's helping his labor party.

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02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:19,840
Speaker 1: All right, thirteen and a half the top there with

2507
02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:22,119
Speaker 1: our guest, doctor Gerald Horna. As I mentioned, any question,

2508
02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:24,920
Speaker 1: any subject you could ask, you can ask doctor Horne.

2509
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 1: You can reach him at eight hundred and four five

2510
02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:29,160
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. Is gonna be in Silver

2511
02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Spring this weekend. We'll tell you more about that. But

2512
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:36,000
Speaker 1: doctor Horns go back to the continent elections recently in Cameroons.

2513
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:37,800
Speaker 1: What have you heard, what's the latest on that in

2514
02:32:37,879 --> 02:32:38,560
Speaker 1: those elections.

2515
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 9: Well, here you have ninety two year old Paul Bia

2516
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:46,840
Speaker 9: who's running for reelection. If he were to win and

2517
02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:49,400
Speaker 9: finish out his term, he might be serving believe it

2518
02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:52,280
Speaker 9: or not, at the age of one hundred. Yet he

2519
02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:57,480
Speaker 9: spends most of his time at a palatial hotel in Geneva,

2520
02:32:57,680 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 9: Switzerland or Camerooney from the four corners of the planet

2521
02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:06,960
Speaker 9: come to protest now. An opposition candidate has claimed that

2522
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 9: mister Bia has actually lost this recent election. But don't

2523
02:33:11,440 --> 02:33:15,200
Speaker 9: expect Paul Bea to give up power anytimespoon because he

2524
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,560
Speaker 9: is supported by the United States, he is supported by

2525
02:33:18,800 --> 02:33:21,800
Speaker 9: brand and he is supported by the North Atlantic powers.

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02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, another coop in to make in the in Cameroon.

2527
02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Are you saying that on the horizon, Well, not only.

2528
02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:35,080
Speaker 9: A possible military coup, but keep in mind that there

2529
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:41,400
Speaker 9: is a brewing civil war in Cameroon, this neighbor of Nigeria.

2530
02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:45,760
Speaker 9: That is to say that the so called Anglophone population,

2531
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:49,520
Speaker 9: the part of Cameroon that was colonized by Great Britain,

2532
02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 9: they feel and that they argue that they are a

2533
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:57,960
Speaker 9: second class stood vis a the Francophone or French speaking

2534
02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:02,760
Speaker 9: population colonized by France. And this civil war or the

2535
02:34:02,879 --> 02:34:06,360
Speaker 9: facto civil war, it's not going away anytime soon. Didn't

2536
02:34:06,400 --> 02:34:09,280
Speaker 9: have the potential to topple mister Bia altogether.

2537
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:13,360
Speaker 1: Fifteen after tough, doctor Horne, did you see some of

2538
02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:16,880
Speaker 1: these other Francophone countries like Cameroon and probably Court Devar

2539
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:20,280
Speaker 1: and Senegal and who else the Gambia. Do you see

2540
02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:23,920
Speaker 1: them joining or coming joining forces of the Sahale nations

2541
02:34:23,959 --> 02:34:25,960
Speaker 1: are going up against the French. How do you read

2542
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:26,800
Speaker 1: what's going on there?

2543
02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:33,119
Speaker 9: Well, certainly that's possible. With regard to Senegal, I understand

2544
02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 9: that there was a recent meeting between the Senegalese leadership

2545
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:42,039
Speaker 9: and the Sahl leadership particularly became a fossil coach. De vois.

2546
02:34:42,680 --> 02:34:45,360
Speaker 9: I'm not so sure about that. President of Wara, he

2547
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 9: is also up for re election. He has rigged the

2548
02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:53,440
Speaker 9: election to a certain extent, the barring from the ballot

2549
02:34:53,959 --> 02:35:01,160
Speaker 9: and many potential challengers and which are to god bold,

2550
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 9: we're called if they had a change of regime a

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Speaker 9: year or so ago. But the new leadership. And by

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02:35:09,480 --> 02:35:12,680
Speaker 9: the way, the new leader apparently has significant real estate

2553
02:35:12,720 --> 02:35:16,480
Speaker 9: holding in your backyard in the state of Maryland. He

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02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:20,160
Speaker 9: seems to be quite willing to continue to play ball

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Speaker 9: with the Flinch.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold that thought right there. I want to

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02:35:23,920 --> 02:35:28,040
Speaker 1: talk about the Francophone countries and if you see any changes,

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02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:30,040
Speaker 1: what's the very latest with them. But we've got to

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Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. We come back, though,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you address then. Folks, you want to join

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Speaker 1: our conversation with doctor gerald Horn, reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight, seventy six

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Speaker 1: and sixteen after the top of the hour, will take

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Speaker 1: you calls next and ground rising family. Thanks for rolling

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Speaker 1: with us on this Wednesday morning. I guess it's doctor

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Speaker 1: Gerald Horn from the University of Houston. Again, we do

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Speaker 1: always tackle seeral topics with Dr Hornes. Dr Horne is

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02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 1: one of the smartest brothers out here. It's going to

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02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:57,560
Speaker 1: be in Silver Spring this Friday. We'll tell you more

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02:35:57,560 --> 02:35:59,720
Speaker 1: about that. So I'll always here whenever our scholars come

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02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:01,280
Speaker 1: to tell make sure you go out and see them,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Hornes. Staying on the Sahal Nations though, some of

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Speaker 1: them have made contacts with the Russians for security purposes,

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02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:13,360
Speaker 1: for military for arms, but they've if they've they've promised

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02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:16,600
Speaker 1: or mortgage if you will. Some people probably use that

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02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:20,200
Speaker 1: term uh the future by giving up some of their

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02:36:20,440 --> 02:36:24,960
Speaker 1: minerals and diamonds and other aspects for support, just like

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02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:28,840
Speaker 1: the Chinese of building infrastructure in other countries on the continent.

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02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:32,800
Speaker 1: But they also are getting, you know, the resources from

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02:36:32,840 --> 02:36:35,240
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters on the continent. How'd you see this,

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02:36:35,480 --> 02:36:38,640
Speaker 1: especially with the Sahal Nations? Are they fighting? They find

2582
02:36:38,680 --> 02:36:42,039
Speaker 1: a proxy war though because again the weapons and again

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02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:45,280
Speaker 1: the military support from Russia to stay off the French.

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Speaker 1: How do you see what's going on there?

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Speaker 9: Well, then it's no secret that not only would the

2586
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:55,200
Speaker 9: United States like to think the overthrow these regimes, but

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Speaker 9: friends as well, not to mention certain of the Gulf

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02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:03,080
Speaker 9: barnarchs like the United Arab Emirates, which reputedly reportedly or

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02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 9: supporting the religious velts who are terrorizing Burkina Fasso and

2590
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:13,119
Speaker 9: Niger and Malee under the guise of being Islamic warriors.

2591
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:17,240
Speaker 9: Because of the pressure these regimes are under, it's forced

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Speaker 9: them to make compromises, compromises with Morocco and the King

2593
02:37:22,440 --> 02:37:25,480
Speaker 9: of Rabot because they need an outlet to the sea.

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02:37:25,879 --> 02:37:30,360
Speaker 9: These nations are all landlocked. For example, this was not

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02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:36,280
Speaker 9: pleasing to Morocco's historic poe speaking of neighboring Algeria, which

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02:37:36,400 --> 02:37:40,920
Speaker 9: borders Mali, for example. So they're in a very difficult situation.

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Speaker 9: And that's why I'm happy to see that Black Americans

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02:37:44,120 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 9: are rallying to their defense. And indeed, as a listener

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Speaker 9: suggested or thinking about taking out permanent residents in Bikina Fosso.

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Speaker 1: Wow, twenty two after top Now let's come back as

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02:37:56,520 --> 02:37:59,000
Speaker 1: stateside and want you to put your legal hat on

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02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:02,400
Speaker 1: now for US Donald Trump's going after Tiss James in

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Speaker 1: New York. How do you see that? Because some people

2604
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:08,640
Speaker 1: say that it's just a waste of resources and he's overstepped,

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02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:12,480
Speaker 1: he's bound and there's some infighting. Pam Bondy wasn't uh,

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02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, called in and alerted to what was going

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Speaker 1: on and this handling that he that he appointed just

2608
02:38:18,879 --> 02:38:20,920
Speaker 1: went ahead with it, and people been telling her that

2609
02:38:20,959 --> 02:38:22,960
Speaker 1: there's there's no case, but he still pushing with it.

2610
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:24,440
Speaker 1: How do you see what's going on there?

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02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:29,080
Speaker 9: Well, possibly what you said is all true. That is

2612
02:38:29,160 --> 02:38:33,200
Speaker 9: to say that Lindsay Halligan is the unqualified and competent

2613
02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:38,360
Speaker 9: insurance attorney who is now bringing criminal indictments from Virginia,

2614
02:38:38,520 --> 02:38:42,039
Speaker 9: not only against le Titia James, the black woman attorney

2615
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:44,720
Speaker 9: general the state of New York. That James coming the

2616
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:49,600
Speaker 9: sac FBI director. It's possible that Pam Bondi, the head

2617
02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:52,000
Speaker 9: of the Department of Justice, was not in the loop

2618
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,800
Speaker 9: when there's incitement indictment against tiss James was brought. It's

2619
02:38:56,240 --> 02:38:59,720
Speaker 9: highly possible that there's no there there, that this is

2620
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 9: an empty case that never should.

2621
02:39:01,400 --> 02:39:01,920
Speaker 7: Have been brought.

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Speaker 9: But that does not mean that we should dismiss it

2623
02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:09,240
Speaker 9: and not take it seriously. Because the jails and the

2624
02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 9: prisons of full of people who have been railroaded behind

2625
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:19,680
Speaker 9: bars due to insubstantial legal complaints, and so Tis James

2626
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:22,760
Speaker 9: understandably has lawyered up. She's hired Abbey Lowell, one of

2627
02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:26,120
Speaker 9: the top criminal defense lawyers in the District of Columbia,

2628
02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:30,400
Speaker 9: and she's raising money hand over this. But fortunately what

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02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:35,440
Speaker 9: Tis James is doing politically is also significant because even

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02:39:35,560 --> 02:39:38,520
Speaker 9: though ha Queen Jeffreys and Gregory Meeks and members of

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02:39:38,600 --> 02:39:42,000
Speaker 9: Congression Congressional Black Caucus from New York City have not

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02:39:42,360 --> 02:39:47,440
Speaker 9: endorsed Zi Kwame Mumdani the odds on favor to become

2633
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:51,080
Speaker 9: mayor of New York City, James has been appearing at

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02:39:51,240 --> 02:39:56,640
Speaker 9: rally shoulder to shoulder with Mayor and waiting Mumdani. And

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Speaker 9: I think that that would bolster her position in court.

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Speaker 1: As well, also with the Black community, or also with

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02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:06,040
Speaker 1: the New Yorkers as well, and not necessarily the black community.

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02:40:06,120 --> 02:40:09,720
Speaker 1: How's the Black community coming down on that election? Have

2639
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:12,360
Speaker 1: they getting behind Mandannie? Are you hearing reports of that?

2640
02:40:12,520 --> 02:40:14,440
Speaker 1: Or they're still sort of on the fence because of

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02:40:14,480 --> 02:40:18,199
Speaker 1: the as you mentioned that these elected officials are still,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of vacillating whether or not less you

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Speaker 1: support Mandannie.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's probably a bit of both. That is to say,

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02:40:28,360 --> 02:40:32,360
Speaker 9: the black community is influenced by King Jeffries and Gregory Niecks,

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02:40:32,600 --> 02:40:38,119
Speaker 9: for example. They're influenced by the demagogic sex pest thinking

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02:40:38,200 --> 02:40:43,760
Speaker 9: of Atrew Cuomo, who is running far behind mister Mamdani.

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02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:49,000
Speaker 9: They're influenced by Eric Adams, who has is now be

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02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:51,440
Speaker 9: a company but has chosen not to lenk of reelection

2650
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:54,560
Speaker 9: and obviously it's cut a deal with mister Trump in

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02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:58,520
Speaker 9: order to avoid indictment. And I think that's been quite

2652
02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:02,320
Speaker 9: confusing for the community, the fact that the incumbent black

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02:41:02,440 --> 02:41:06,280
Speaker 9: mayor has been quite hostile to mister Mumdani at the

2654
02:41:06,360 --> 02:41:08,880
Speaker 9: same time he's obviously in bed with mister Trump.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five. At the top of that with our guest

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02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:14,760
Speaker 1: doctor Gerald Horn. And doctor Horn, we mentioned Tis James

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Speaker 1: in New York. You stand turn to Generald, but what

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02:41:17,879 --> 02:41:20,240
Speaker 1: about Adam Shift. Do you think Trump's going on a

2659
02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:23,440
Speaker 1: revenge tour all the folks that he dislikes, trying to

2660
02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:26,360
Speaker 1: tie them up legally because it looks like the chargers,

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Speaker 1: especially the charge against Tis James, that you know doesn't

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Speaker 1: warrant what he's going after. But is Adam Shift the

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Speaker 1: next on the list?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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02:41:35,480 --> 02:41:36,720
Speaker 8: I think so?

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Speaker 9: I mean if I'm out of shift. I'm trying to

2667
02:41:39,920 --> 02:41:42,720
Speaker 9: reach out to Abby Lowell and telling Abby Lowell to

2668
02:41:43,360 --> 02:41:48,480
Speaker 9: devote some time to my case. Mister shiftscape, because mister

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02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:52,240
Speaker 9: Shiff recalled was in the van guard in terms of

2670
02:41:52,320 --> 02:41:56,119
Speaker 9: attacking mister Trump and Trump one point zero in terms

2671
02:41:56,240 --> 02:41:59,400
Speaker 9: of the attempt to impeach mister Trump, which of course

2672
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:00,400
Speaker 9: did not succeed.

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Speaker 6: He has his own special.

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02:42:02,600 --> 02:42:05,960
Speaker 9: Name for Adam Schiff. Pencil neck is the insult he

2675
02:42:06,080 --> 02:42:10,800
Speaker 9: tosses at him casually. So Adam shifp is next. The

2676
02:42:10,879 --> 02:42:12,800
Speaker 9: only question is who follows Adam Shipp.

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Speaker 2: You know?

2678
02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:18,600
Speaker 1: You know what, doctor Hornet, this reports, this haven't seen

2679
02:42:18,680 --> 02:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and I sort of alluded to this about the where

2680
02:42:20,959 --> 02:42:24,880
Speaker 1: the court cases taking place today, and I'm looking for

2681
02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:27,160
Speaker 1: it on me because brief from from somebody of one

2682
02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:29,400
Speaker 1: of the leading Democrats. They may have filed that, don't know,

2683
02:42:29,560 --> 02:42:32,680
Speaker 1: haven't heard about it yet. But we're not seeing a

2684
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:35,960
Speaker 1: lot of back room from the Democratic Party. Why not?

2685
02:42:36,320 --> 02:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Are they complicit to what's going on? Did they know

2686
02:42:38,280 --> 02:42:40,400
Speaker 1: what's going on? They and they just is all this

2687
02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:41,600
Speaker 1: just theater for us?

2688
02:42:43,440 --> 02:42:46,160
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's a mixed picture of hawking.

2689
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Speaker 5: Jefferies.

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02:42:46,640 --> 02:42:50,040
Speaker 9: I'm sure would argue that they're standing up to Trump

2691
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:53,600
Speaker 9: with regard to these healthcare subsidies. That's a contributing factor

2692
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:57,800
Speaker 9: with regard to the government's shutdown and the fact that

2693
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:00,800
Speaker 9: they say that they will not vote to open the

2694
02:43:00,879 --> 02:43:03,760
Speaker 9: government until they get some sort of guarantee about healthcare

2695
02:43:03,800 --> 02:43:06,480
Speaker 9: of subsidies. But at the same time, I think we

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02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:09,720
Speaker 9: have to recognize that with regard to the black community,

2697
02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:13,440
Speaker 9: our interests are all are often swept under the rug

2698
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:17,000
Speaker 9: because in some ways it goes back to the Civil War.

2699
02:43:17,200 --> 02:43:19,600
Speaker 9: That is to say that you have a substantial percentage

2700
02:43:19,720 --> 02:43:25,080
Speaker 9: of the electorate who still are angry about the fact

2701
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:29,959
Speaker 9: that they lost the Civil War, that the slave were emancipated,

2702
02:43:30,840 --> 02:43:34,640
Speaker 9: and that struggle still continues on a certain level.

2703
02:43:36,280 --> 02:43:38,480
Speaker 1: I guess I'm reaching for a twenty at after the

2704
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:40,200
Speaker 1: top of the fact that it's court here and that

2705
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:43,600
Speaker 1: is going to take place today, and the NAACP Legal

2706
02:43:43,640 --> 02:43:45,800
Speaker 1: Defense Fund that they're they're the ones who are going

2707
02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:48,760
Speaker 1: to defending this measure. I'm looking for some high powered

2708
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:53,440
Speaker 1: attorneys in the Democratic Party or members of the Democratic

2709
02:43:53,480 --> 02:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Party to be there side by side, because they're the

2710
02:43:56,400 --> 02:43:58,120
Speaker 1: ones who are going to be the black vote's going

2711
02:43:58,160 --> 02:44:00,959
Speaker 1: to be impacted, and you know, black folks vote Democrat

2712
02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:03,680
Speaker 1: more than anybody else. But it doesn't seem like, don't

2713
02:44:03,680 --> 02:44:06,120
Speaker 1: see like they're coming to their aid. I'm not sure.

2714
02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:08,760
Speaker 1: Maybe they are filed some of Meeka's briefs and then

2715
02:44:08,840 --> 02:44:11,320
Speaker 1: we don't know. Maybe that there are they're going to

2716
02:44:11,360 --> 02:44:13,360
Speaker 1: be there and show up this morning at the court

2717
02:44:13,400 --> 02:44:15,760
Speaker 1: hearing at nine o'clock. Well it started right now. But

2718
02:44:16,480 --> 02:44:19,400
Speaker 1: how do you see that? Dude? That's my question. I

2719
02:44:19,480 --> 02:44:23,119
Speaker 1: don't see you say that, you know, Uh, Jefferies will

2720
02:44:23,160 --> 02:44:26,400
Speaker 1: say that they are pushing back, but in this case,

2721
02:44:26,680 --> 02:44:29,480
Speaker 1: this particular case, if the one that they say it

2722
02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:32,760
Speaker 1: is so important, would be devastating if our voting rights

2723
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:35,680
Speaker 1: A kurtail. Don't see they seem to be mi I A.

2724
02:44:35,920 --> 02:44:36,680
Speaker 1: How do you see that?

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02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:40,080
Speaker 9: Well? I agree with you to a certain extent. I

2726
02:44:40,160 --> 02:44:43,320
Speaker 9: mean it's a short walk, as you well know, from

2727
02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:47,480
Speaker 9: Capitol Hill to Supreme Court building. I mean it takes

2728
02:44:47,560 --> 02:44:51,600
Speaker 9: about three minutes to make that job. And it would

2729
02:44:51,640 --> 02:44:57,040
Speaker 9: be quite useful if King Jefferies, Chuck Schumer, leaders and

2730
02:44:57,040 --> 02:45:02,080
Speaker 9: Aggressional Black Caucus would hold a press conference and part

2731
02:45:02,200 --> 02:45:05,480
Speaker 9: in front of the Supreme Court endorsing the efforts of

2732
02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:09,040
Speaker 9: the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, Because, as you suggest,

2733
02:45:10,080 --> 02:45:14,440
Speaker 9: if the Voting Like Act goes down, the Democratic Party

2734
02:45:14,600 --> 02:45:16,240
Speaker 9: goes down right along with it.

2735
02:45:18,600 --> 02:45:20,680
Speaker 1: And they know that. They've got to know that. That's

2736
02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:25,280
Speaker 1: why my question is, is it's this theore they're part

2737
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:27,640
Speaker 1: of it game too? Is it complicit they know what's

2738
02:45:27,680 --> 02:45:30,360
Speaker 1: going to happen and they just go they're just playing

2739
02:45:30,400 --> 02:45:33,000
Speaker 1: a role? Or are they shares or our folks are

2740
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:35,240
Speaker 1: misguided in thinking that they're going to come and help us.

2741
02:45:36,840 --> 02:45:39,560
Speaker 9: What's a part of it? Is this campaign, don't That

2742
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:42,480
Speaker 9: is to say that the Voting Rights Act of nineteen

2743
02:45:42,520 --> 02:45:46,400
Speaker 9: sixty five is not high on the list of priorities

2744
02:45:46,520 --> 02:45:51,920
Speaker 9: of many campaign donors, and therefore that trickles down to

2745
02:45:52,360 --> 02:45:55,720
Speaker 9: ensure that it's not high on the list of priorities

2746
02:45:55,879 --> 02:45:59,680
Speaker 9: of many leaders of the Democratic Party. Although I think

2747
02:45:59,800 --> 02:46:03,320
Speaker 9: that in their heart of heart, they recognize once again

2748
02:46:04,040 --> 02:46:07,640
Speaker 9: that if the Voting Rights Act is severely wounded, wounded,

2749
02:46:07,840 --> 02:46:12,000
Speaker 9: or even overthrown, that their electual efforts will suffer.

2750
02:46:12,120 --> 02:46:16,720
Speaker 1: Accordingly, thirty minutes at the top, they our family guests

2751
02:46:16,760 --> 02:46:20,480
Speaker 1: doctor Gerald Horn from the University of Texas. As I mentioned,

2752
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:22,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be in town this weekend, actually Friday,

2753
02:46:22,520 --> 02:46:24,240
Speaker 1: in Silver Spring. We're going to give you more information

2754
02:46:24,280 --> 02:46:26,200
Speaker 1: about that. But let's take another call for doctor Horne.

2755
02:46:26,200 --> 02:46:27,879
Speaker 1: At twenty nine away from the top of the hour,

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02:46:28,320 --> 02:46:31,720
Speaker 1: Brother Collie's calling is from Waldorf is online too, Grand Rising,

2757
02:46:31,800 --> 02:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Brother Collice, your question for doctor.

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02:46:33,320 --> 02:46:38,400
Speaker 17: Horn, Grand Rising to you, my brother Carl and the

2759
02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:43,280
Speaker 17: esteemed guests. Doctor Horn, I would just want to make

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Speaker 17: a comment on the devils behind the throne of one

2761
02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:51,880
Speaker 17: Donald J. Trump, and I want the family to be

2762
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:54,720
Speaker 17: aware and I hope you are of the man that

2763
02:46:55,800 --> 02:47:00,560
Speaker 17: is behind all of this litigation brought against Letitia James,

2764
02:47:00,680 --> 02:47:04,080
Speaker 17: Lisa Cook, Marilyn Moseby. What have you a man by

2765
02:47:04,120 --> 02:47:06,960
Speaker 17: the name of Bill POULTI p U L t E.

2766
02:47:08,080 --> 02:47:08,959
Speaker 6: Who is a.

2767
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:17,200
Speaker 17: Man behind the manufacture of homes known throughout America and

2768
02:47:17,320 --> 02:47:22,120
Speaker 17: the real estate industry. And so I wanted to if

2769
02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:24,480
Speaker 17: you could expound on that and to comment on that

2770
02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:31,680
Speaker 17: and to understand that Donald Trump has many devils behind

2771
02:47:31,840 --> 02:47:39,120
Speaker 17: him that bring about these indictments and heinous policies that

2772
02:47:39,280 --> 02:47:42,119
Speaker 17: are being instigated today.

2773
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:47,000
Speaker 9: Well, indeed, not only Bill Poulty, who has access to

2774
02:47:47,120 --> 02:47:51,200
Speaker 9: mortgage records which means that anyone who owns a house,

2775
02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:57,280
Speaker 9: for example, is particularly and notably in jeopardy because he

2776
02:47:57,400 --> 02:48:01,560
Speaker 9: can pour through those records and find that I has

2777
02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:05,280
Speaker 9: not dotted and tea is not crossed at Lindsay Halligan

2778
02:48:05,440 --> 02:48:09,160
Speaker 9: to bring an indictment in Virginia. But it's not only Pulsi,

2779
02:48:09,280 --> 02:48:12,600
Speaker 9: it's aunt. Martin recalled that he did not cut the

2780
02:48:12,720 --> 02:48:15,520
Speaker 9: mustard for being the US Attorney for the District of

2781
02:48:15,560 --> 02:48:18,400
Speaker 9: Columbia and had to step down. He has been a

2782
02:48:18,520 --> 02:48:22,800
Speaker 9: cheerleader or the January sixth, twenty twenty one editions, he

2783
02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:26,920
Speaker 9: has been taking videos in front of the James Home

2784
02:48:27,280 --> 02:48:31,160
Speaker 9: in Brooklyn, for example. I could go on with the

2785
02:48:31,320 --> 02:48:34,280
Speaker 9: whist of devils behind mister Trump. I could also mention

2786
02:48:34,480 --> 02:48:40,000
Speaker 9: Miriam Adleson, the billionaire who controls the Dallas Mavericks basketball team,

2787
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:44,760
Speaker 9: not to mention casinos in both Nevada and Macaw. Part

2788
02:48:44,800 --> 02:48:47,640
Speaker 9: of the people from Public of China recalled that mister

2789
02:48:47,720 --> 02:48:51,600
Speaker 9: Trump gave a shout out to her during that meeting

2790
02:48:51,680 --> 02:48:55,480
Speaker 9: in Egypt the other day, and interestingly enough, even though

2791
02:48:55,560 --> 02:48:59,080
Speaker 9: she's a US national, mister Trump said he's not able

2792
02:48:59,160 --> 02:49:01,920
Speaker 9: to say if she with US birds or Israel first,

2793
02:49:01,959 --> 02:49:04,160
Speaker 9: but I thought, what's quite selling and it's not one

2794
02:49:04,200 --> 02:49:08,240
Speaker 9: of mister Trump's rare Republican opponents, speaking of Prongressman Thomas

2795
02:49:08,360 --> 02:49:12,360
Speaker 9: Massey of Kentucky. Let's put that in the campaign at

2796
02:49:12,520 --> 02:49:16,959
Speaker 9: because Adelson and Trump are going after Massey because he's

2797
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:18,160
Speaker 9: crossed swords with both.

2798
02:49:20,240 --> 02:49:22,960
Speaker 17: I thank you. I answer one follow question, and this

2799
02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:27,280
Speaker 17: is this is a little bit different aspect. If you

2800
02:49:27,400 --> 02:49:31,240
Speaker 17: are familiar with the Cronus complex, which is expounded in

2801
02:49:31,680 --> 02:49:36,480
Speaker 17: the Iceman's Inheritance by Michael Bradley and with a pre

2802
02:49:36,959 --> 02:49:42,320
Speaker 17: word by doctor Hand doctor John Henry Clark, it gives

2803
02:49:42,400 --> 02:49:48,160
Speaker 17: us an insight into the personality, the deficits, and the

2804
02:49:48,280 --> 02:49:53,000
Speaker 17: personality type of things that we are we are we

2805
02:49:53,120 --> 02:49:56,280
Speaker 17: are going against in the Donald Trump, which is a

2806
02:49:56,440 --> 02:50:02,640
Speaker 17: highly racialized, misoginalized, a type of complex coming out of

2807
02:50:02,680 --> 02:50:06,520
Speaker 17: the Ice ages. And if you want to come in

2808
02:50:06,600 --> 02:50:09,960
Speaker 17: on that also, I appreciate it. Thank you to taking

2809
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:10,320
Speaker 17: my call.

2810
02:50:12,040 --> 02:50:17,640
Speaker 9: Well, well, I agree that there is deep seated misogyny

2811
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:22,080
Speaker 9: woman hated. You see that reflected and this made up

2812
02:50:22,120 --> 02:50:26,680
Speaker 9: indictment against Chiss James. You see deep seated white supremacy

2813
02:50:27,240 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 9: once again, that is reflected in the indictment of Tis

2814
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:34,360
Speaker 9: James is reflected what I said a moment or two ago.

2815
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:37,280
Speaker 9: There are those on the Republican side of the aisle

2816
02:50:37,760 --> 02:50:41,720
Speaker 9: who have not gotten over the fact that they were

2817
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:45,920
Speaker 9: on the losing side ideologically in the US Civil War

2818
02:50:46,560 --> 02:50:50,480
Speaker 9: and of course lost billions of dollars in property and

2819
02:50:50,840 --> 02:50:56,160
Speaker 9: enslaved Africans' bodies, and have been thirsting for revenge of response,

2820
02:50:56,280 --> 02:50:58,720
Speaker 9: which led to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan.

2821
02:50:59,720 --> 02:51:01,360
Speaker 9: And you still have echoes of that.

2822
02:51:01,480 --> 02:51:05,280
Speaker 1: To this very day, twenty five away from the top.

2823
02:51:05,920 --> 02:51:08,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned Marion Adelson, and I want to go back there,

2824
02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:13,840
Speaker 1: doctor Horn, not just her, but several American Israelis or

2825
02:51:13,879 --> 02:51:16,760
Speaker 1: American Jews. They I'm not knocking them, let me get

2826
02:51:16,879 --> 02:51:19,480
Speaker 1: that straight up front, but they seem to give a

2827
02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:22,880
Speaker 1: lot of support to Israel. And there's nothing wrong with that,

2828
02:51:22,879 --> 02:51:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna tell people how to spend their money.

2829
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:28,600
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering white seems like on our side, apart

2830
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:31,680
Speaker 1: from Danny Glover, and I've been scratching my head thinking

2831
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:35,920
Speaker 1: of which you know in our community, who's given Africa

2832
02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:40,000
Speaker 1: some full throated support like these folks do for Israel.

2833
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:41,080
Speaker 1: Do you know of anybody.

2834
02:51:42,560 --> 02:51:47,240
Speaker 9: Not really, but obviously there's a difference because with regard

2835
02:51:47,480 --> 02:51:51,000
Speaker 9: to these prosign that's beigonaires like Miriam Adleston or Bill

2836
02:51:51,080 --> 02:51:53,520
Speaker 9: Ackman of New York City who led to charge against

2837
02:51:53,560 --> 02:51:57,280
Speaker 9: the first black woman president of Harvard cluding Gate, making

2838
02:51:57,320 --> 02:52:01,200
Speaker 9: sure she was ousted from office, are in syne with

2839
02:52:01,520 --> 02:52:07,120
Speaker 9: us for policy. However, if you're supporting this the hell bason,

2840
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:09,240
Speaker 9: you're not mistake with more.

2841
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:11,400
Speaker 1: Policy right hold on thought right there, We've got to

2842
02:52:11,400 --> 02:52:13,160
Speaker 1: step aside for our last break. I'll let you expand

2843
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:15,000
Speaker 1: on that when you get back. Twenty four minutes away

2844
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:17,080
Speaker 1: from the top there. I guess the doctor Gerald Horn

2845
02:52:17,280 --> 02:52:19,560
Speaker 1: also as a mission's going to be in Silver Spring, Maryland.

2846
02:52:19,560 --> 02:52:21,840
Speaker 1: If you're in the DMV era, if you're in Baltimore too,

2847
02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:24,760
Speaker 1: come on down and see doctor Hornt on Friday. Well,

2848
02:52:24,840 --> 02:52:26,760
Speaker 1: give information about that when we get back, and we'll

2849
02:52:26,840 --> 02:52:28,760
Speaker 1: also take your phone calls at eight hundred and four

2850
02:52:28,800 --> 02:52:31,400
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll do that

2851
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:34,320
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family nineteen minutes away from the

2852
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:36,360
Speaker 1: top there. Thanks for being making us part of your

2853
02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:38,760
Speaker 1: morning ritual each and every morning here on this program.

2854
02:52:38,840 --> 02:52:41,560
Speaker 1: My guest is doctor Gerald Horn from the University of Houston.

2855
02:52:41,640 --> 02:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Before we go back to doctor Hornt, just won't mind

2856
02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:45,840
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. You know, look at the Millium Man March,

2857
02:52:46,440 --> 02:52:50,560
Speaker 1: the anniversary thirty years ago, Minister Lewis far Kahan commissioned

2858
02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:52,720
Speaker 1: a black man to come to the Capitol and they

2859
02:52:52,760 --> 02:52:55,119
Speaker 1: showed up. People say it was more like two million

2860
02:52:55,160 --> 02:52:58,000
Speaker 1: brothers who showed up. And you know they've been discounting

2861
02:52:58,040 --> 02:53:00,160
Speaker 1: the numbers, but folks who are there say, probably we've

2862
02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:02,120
Speaker 1: braught three mealing. So anyway, we're gonna speak to one

2863
02:53:02,120 --> 02:53:05,360
Speaker 1: of the architects. When Minister Farca and decided to do this,

2864
02:53:05,480 --> 02:53:07,800
Speaker 1: one of the first persons he called actually was doctor

2865
02:53:07,879 --> 02:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Milana Karenga, you know, and for the for the concerts,

2866
02:53:11,360 --> 02:53:14,320
Speaker 1: the doctor Karenga in fact wrote the manifesto for the

2867
02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Million Man March. He's going to tell us about some

2868
02:53:16,040 --> 02:53:18,040
Speaker 1: of the phone calls and how they put this thing together.

2869
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:19,920
Speaker 1: And so that's going to be tomorrow. So if you're

2870
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:21,960
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, actually keep your radio locked and tight on

2871
02:53:22,080 --> 02:53:24,640
Speaker 1: ten ten WLB, or if you're in the dmv RN

2872
02:53:24,840 --> 02:53:28,440
Speaker 1: FM ninety five point nine at am fourteen fifty w L.

2873
02:53:28,840 --> 02:53:31,199
Speaker 1: All Right, doctor Horne, you gotta be in Silver Spring

2874
02:53:31,280 --> 02:53:34,520
Speaker 1: on Friday, give us the information that's correct.

2875
02:53:34,760 --> 02:53:39,960
Speaker 9: Six thirty pm the Montgomery College Downtown Silver Spring campus

2876
02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:43,800
Speaker 9: launching my my newest book.

2877
02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:46,120
Speaker 6: The Capital of Slavery, Washington, d c.

2878
02:53:46,879 --> 02:53:51,040
Speaker 9: Eighteen hundred to eighteen sixty five, obviously with contemporary echoes

2879
02:53:51,200 --> 02:53:53,600
Speaker 9: for today. Be there a B square.

2880
02:53:54,440 --> 02:53:56,760
Speaker 1: All right, we'll give you that information again before you leave.

2881
02:53:56,760 --> 02:53:59,120
Speaker 1: And let me just say I oversay this. Whenever our

2882
02:53:59,160 --> 02:54:01,800
Speaker 1: scholars come to any town that you're in, make sure

2883
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:05,360
Speaker 1: you go and see them. You know, well, I didn't

2884
02:54:05,360 --> 02:54:07,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to see Dr Welson and she was, yeah,

2885
02:54:07,640 --> 02:54:09,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get this answs toe neely Fuller that you're

2886
02:54:09,520 --> 02:54:13,640
Speaker 1: just left here. Yeah, please go see and support our scholars. Please.

2887
02:54:13,720 --> 02:54:16,440
Speaker 1: That's that's that's my request for you this morning. Uh,

2888
02:54:16,920 --> 02:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Doc Harle. The election caught up next month. The key

2889
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:24,120
Speaker 1: two key gubnatorial races wanting New Jersey wanting Virginia. What

2890
02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:26,640
Speaker 1: are the chances are that they flip or the chances

2891
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:31,480
Speaker 1: that the Democrats can hold a whole play in these races?

2892
02:54:32,840 --> 02:54:37,040
Speaker 9: Well, in the cavalier state, Virginia wins them. Series The

2893
02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:41,760
Speaker 9: Black Woman Republican is in hot water. That is to say,

2894
02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:44,680
Speaker 9: the Republicans are full of contradictions. On the one hand,

2895
02:54:45,440 --> 02:54:48,680
Speaker 9: they try to argue that they're quote colorblind, unquote. On

2896
02:54:48,800 --> 02:54:53,439
Speaker 9: the other hand, they know that they are viewed understandably

2897
02:54:53,520 --> 02:54:56,560
Speaker 9: as the party of flight supremacy. So they feel that

2898
02:54:56,640 --> 02:54:59,560
Speaker 9: they have to trot out these black stooges from time

2899
02:54:59,640 --> 02:55:04,240
Speaker 9: to time to aspire to hire office, not apparently aware

2900
02:55:04,240 --> 02:55:09,280
Speaker 9: of the fact that their constituency, the Republican Party constituency,

2901
02:55:09,879 --> 02:55:13,360
Speaker 9: has a visceral negative reaction to black candidates. And so

2902
02:55:13,760 --> 02:55:17,720
Speaker 9: I would say, in that context, when some serious is doomed,

2903
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:20,880
Speaker 9: which regard to New Jersey, that's the hearts of a

2904
02:55:20,959 --> 02:55:29,480
Speaker 9: different color, because you've had these records release concerning the

2905
02:55:29,640 --> 02:55:36,360
Speaker 9: Democrat governor Maiden Sheryl that do not necessarily reflect well

2906
02:55:36,400 --> 02:55:40,000
Speaker 9: on her according to the Republicans. At the same time,

2907
02:55:41,320 --> 02:55:44,240
Speaker 9: New Jersey is a blue state, so it's going to

2908
02:55:44,280 --> 02:55:47,800
Speaker 9: be closed, but it's still too close to call.

2909
02:55:48,920 --> 02:55:51,760
Speaker 1: Got you sixteen away from the Top. Tony's checking in

2910
02:55:51,879 --> 02:55:55,360
Speaker 1: from Seattle, Washington. He's online to Grand Rising Tony, your

2911
02:55:55,480 --> 02:55:56,520
Speaker 1: question for doctor Horn.

2912
02:55:57,959 --> 02:56:02,240
Speaker 14: Yes, a Grand Rising to the GROS wanted to ask

2913
02:56:02,360 --> 02:56:08,280
Speaker 14: doctor Horn after Trump trashed the world leaders with telling

2914
02:56:08,320 --> 02:56:09,599
Speaker 14: them their countries.

2915
02:56:10,879 --> 02:56:11,640
Speaker 1: It was no good.

2916
02:56:11,920 --> 02:56:15,280
Speaker 14: How's going forward? How are the relationship is going to

2917
02:56:15,320 --> 02:56:19,160
Speaker 14: be between the United States and the world, And also

2918
02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:24,440
Speaker 14: he trashed the military leaders too, So how is all

2919
02:56:24,520 --> 02:56:25,320
Speaker 14: this going to play out?

2920
02:56:27,080 --> 02:56:27,280
Speaker 5: Well?

2921
02:56:27,400 --> 02:56:29,320
Speaker 9: I think on the one hand, you're going to see

2922
02:56:29,320 --> 02:56:33,640
Speaker 9: the Europeans who will continue to smile in mister Trump's faith,

2923
02:56:34,400 --> 02:56:37,080
Speaker 9: but behind the scenes they're trying to look for new

2924
02:56:37,200 --> 02:56:44,440
Speaker 9: trading partners, particularly with Brazil led Mercasoor, particularly with ostinon

2925
02:56:44,640 --> 02:56:49,160
Speaker 9: the Association of Southeast Asian Nations for example. I don't

2926
02:56:49,200 --> 02:56:52,640
Speaker 9: know if you saw the spectacle of shaw Mill Shake Egypt,

2927
02:56:53,560 --> 02:56:58,760
Speaker 9: where mister Trump really did not treat Chur Stormer, the

2928
02:56:59,000 --> 02:57:03,440
Speaker 9: British Prime Minister, which respect, for example, as if he

2929
02:57:03,560 --> 02:57:07,520
Speaker 9: were a school teacher summoning a pupil. He has the

2930
02:57:07,720 --> 02:57:11,560
Speaker 9: Chris Starmer, who was standing behind him, to come up

2931
02:57:12,040 --> 02:57:12,520
Speaker 9: just show his.

2932
02:57:12,640 --> 02:57:14,800
Speaker 6: Face, and rather.

2933
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:21,680
Speaker 9: Remarkably, Chris Starmer decided to obey that command. So I

2934
02:57:21,800 --> 02:57:24,840
Speaker 9: think that on the one hand, many of the so

2935
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:28,480
Speaker 9: called allies the United States are smiling in mister Trump's face,

2936
02:57:28,520 --> 02:57:30,720
Speaker 9: but behind the scenes they're trying to cut new deals

2937
02:57:30,800 --> 02:57:31,560
Speaker 9: with new partners.

2938
02:57:33,720 --> 02:57:36,920
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, Tony. Oh you have a follow up question.

2939
02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:43,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Tony, you have a follow up question. Oh,

2940
02:57:43,680 --> 02:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I think he hung up fourteen away from the top.

2941
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk some sports right now, doctor Horn, Who do

2942
02:57:49,840 --> 02:57:52,640
Speaker 1: you like? The baseball playoffs are on the way. Who

2943
02:57:52,640 --> 02:57:54,199
Speaker 1: would you like do you think's going to prevail?

2944
02:57:54,840 --> 02:57:58,280
Speaker 9: Oh? The LA Dodgers, clearly. I mean they have one

2945
02:57:58,320 --> 02:58:00,680
Speaker 9: of the biggest budgets, if not the biggest budget. They

2946
02:58:00,720 --> 02:58:04,240
Speaker 9: have the biggest stars with shoe hay Otani. They have

2947
02:58:04,400 --> 02:58:08,080
Speaker 9: the most flexible stars. Lookie Bets, who is an All

2948
02:58:08,160 --> 02:58:10,959
Speaker 9: Star right fielder, one of the best in the games,

2949
02:58:11,120 --> 02:58:14,359
Speaker 9: but sacrifice for the team and moved in to play shortstop.

2950
02:58:14,959 --> 02:58:17,200
Speaker 9: They have one of the best pitchers in the game,

2951
02:58:17,320 --> 02:58:21,960
Speaker 9: speaking of Blake Snell, not to mention mister Otani. The

2952
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:27,200
Speaker 9: two ways offensive win. So the smart money is on

2953
02:58:27,560 --> 02:58:28,920
Speaker 9: a Dodger. It seems to me.

2954
02:58:29,879 --> 02:58:33,119
Speaker 1: All right, Well, how about the other team in La

2955
02:58:33,520 --> 02:58:37,640
Speaker 1: eld Sport, the Lakers. Lebron's not going to start. The

2956
02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:40,520
Speaker 1: season starts next week. How do you see them?

2957
02:58:42,160 --> 02:58:45,320
Speaker 9: It's going to be a long season for LA basketball fans,

2958
02:58:45,400 --> 02:58:48,680
Speaker 9: not only the Lakers, but the Clippers fans, who, as

2959
02:58:48,720 --> 02:58:51,960
Speaker 9: you know they have this scandal hanging over them with

2960
02:58:52,120 --> 02:58:57,160
Speaker 9: regard to payments from a corporation to Kawide Leonard, who,

2961
02:58:57,959 --> 02:59:00,440
Speaker 9: as you know, oftentimes sits out most of the seasons

2962
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:05,880
Speaker 9: for various reasons. If I'm betting on the NBA playoffs

2963
02:59:06,440 --> 02:59:11,560
Speaker 9: in the late spring of twenty twenty six, my money

2964
02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:15,080
Speaker 9: has to go on to OKC Thunder for example, or

2965
02:59:15,240 --> 02:59:19,679
Speaker 9: even my own Houston Rockets with Kevin Durant of the DMV.

2966
02:59:20,920 --> 02:59:21,120
Speaker 5: Wow.

2967
02:59:21,400 --> 02:59:23,960
Speaker 1: How about Milwaukee Milwaukee's for the first time, they have

2968
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:27,840
Speaker 1: three brothers, blood brothers on the same team. How do

2969
02:59:27,879 --> 02:59:29,360
Speaker 1: you see that? Do you see that as a way

2970
02:59:29,440 --> 02:59:32,560
Speaker 1: to keep it? And I hate the term greek feet

2971
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Speaker 1: black camp announced his name, I know you can is

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Speaker 1: that they signed his brothers just to keep him on

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Speaker 1: the team. How do you see that?

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Speaker 9: Well, probably so, because Giannis has been making noises about

2975
02:59:43,600 --> 02:59:47,840
Speaker 9: going to New York. I've even seen trade packages that

2976
02:59:48,160 --> 02:59:52,600
Speaker 9: would probably caused him to be traded to New York.

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02:59:53,480 --> 02:59:57,920
Speaker 9: And Nianis has won one championship thus far, but like

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02:59:58,040 --> 03:00:01,040
Speaker 9: any player, he wants more because not only is that

2979
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Speaker 9: a sign of your greatness, it also brings them more income.

2980
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Speaker 9: As le Bron when you win more championships. So that's

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Speaker 9: the state of play in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, it just doesn't seem like any team

2983
03:00:15,959 --> 03:00:18,560
Speaker 1: has really stood out. It seems like is this is

2984
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Speaker 1: because this parody in the league, or how do you

2985
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Speaker 1: see you know, one time we thought the Chiefs were

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Speaker 1: looking good. Man, they've lost a few. The Ravens touted

2987
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Speaker 1: as Super Bowl contenders. They some injuries have taken them out.

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Speaker 1: Same for the Washington Commanders and several other teams. How

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Speaker 1: do you see that it is because it's parody in

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Speaker 1: the league. Wha they It seems so even right now.

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Speaker 9: Well, I was surprised and disappointed that the Commanders lost

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Speaker 9: the Chicago Bears. Like many, I'm stunned by how the

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03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:54,320
Speaker 9: Baltimore Ravens have fallen by the wayside. Keep your eye

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Speaker 9: on the Detroit Lions, even though, as I recall, they

2995
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Speaker 9: weren't able to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. But they

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Speaker 9: have this young brother on their team as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: I'm monraw Brown, who's not only a top wide receiver

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Speaker 9: out of USC University of Southern California, but it's trent lingual,

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Speaker 9: speaks English, German, and French, and is obviously highly intelligent,

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Speaker 9: and his parents are looking for role models. Look no

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Speaker 9: further than the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: All right, ten away from the top Cleveland brown So

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03:01:26,200 --> 03:01:28,760
Speaker 1: what's their problem with starting? Should do? What's what's happening

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Speaker 1: with Bear is the coach? Is he on the fire

3005
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Speaker 1: or of a management tell him? Don't don't start him?

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Speaker 1: Is this some collusion that they're trying to punish him?

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Speaker 1: How do you see what's going on in Cleveland?

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Speaker 5: Well, stay tuned.

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Speaker 9: I mean they got rid of Joe Flacco, they shipped

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Speaker 9: him down the highway to Cincinnati, and now standing in

3011
03:01:48,280 --> 03:01:51,039
Speaker 9: front of mister Sanders is only doing Gabriel. I think

3012
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Speaker 9: it's only a matter of time between Gabriel is pinched

3013
03:01:55,879 --> 03:02:00,760
Speaker 9: and mister Sanders steps up. So stay tuned. I think

3014
03:02:01,040 --> 03:02:04,040
Speaker 9: that the Cleveland Browns they wanted to win football games

3015
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:08,480
Speaker 9: and that mandates a change at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: So but it seems like they he was I'm glad

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Speaker 1: he keeps his head on straight because it seems like

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Speaker 1: they were totally against him. Is wondering why they traded

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Speaker 1: for him if they're not going to play, But now

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Speaker 1: it seems like they may be forced to play if

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03:02:24,200 --> 03:02:26,400
Speaker 1: things don't turn out well in the next game.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think you may have seen that episode in

3023
03:02:32,080 --> 03:02:35,480
Speaker 9: the locker room of the Cleveland Browns when they were

3024
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:39,280
Speaker 9: asking should do a senders about his status, and he

3025
03:02:39,480 --> 03:02:43,240
Speaker 9: was tens mind me, he was just mouthing comments and

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03:02:43,360 --> 03:02:47,640
Speaker 9: mouthing responses as if he knew that he said something

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Speaker 9: that would be viewed negatively, he'd probably be shipped to

3028
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Speaker 9: Green Bay or even to the Canadian Football League for example.

3029
03:02:58,200 --> 03:03:01,920
Speaker 9: So he's being patient. He has a good team behind him,

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Speaker 9: spearheaded by his dad, Prime Time himself Dion Standers, who

3031
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Speaker 9: of course has some health challenges which I'm sure he'll overcome.

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Speaker 1: And speaking about Prime at the Colorado Buffalo's, how do

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Speaker 1: they look? They've been up and down this season. Who'd

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Speaker 1: you see in the college football ranks? And this really

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Speaker 1: stands out well.

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Speaker 9: The Buffaloes were able to beat Iowa State. I was

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Speaker 9: really surprised by that. I was also surprised by the

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Speaker 9: fact that Penn State has really fallen down lately. They

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03:03:32,360 --> 03:03:35,440
Speaker 9: were tilted as a number one pick going into this season.

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Speaker 9: They just fired their black coach, James Franklin, and they're

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Speaker 9: looking for a new coach, although you know he's getting

3042
03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:45,120
Speaker 9: a forty nine million dollar bailout, so you know you

3043
03:03:45,200 --> 03:03:47,520
Speaker 9: don't need to shedny tears for him. He won't be

3044
03:03:47,720 --> 03:03:50,440
Speaker 9: in the unemployment line unless he chooses to do so.

3045
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Speaker 9: So going forward, I guess I have to look at

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03:03:56,400 --> 03:04:01,560
Speaker 9: the Georgia Bulldogs although their record is I have to

3047
03:04:01,680 --> 03:04:06,720
Speaker 9: look at the Alabama Crimson Tide, even though their record

3048
03:04:07,080 --> 03:04:11,359
Speaker 9: is blemished. I have to set aside the Texas Longhorns

3049
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Speaker 9: because I think they have been overrated. I have to

3050
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Speaker 9: set aside the USD Trojans. I think that they're overrated too.

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03:04:17,879 --> 03:04:19,600
Speaker 9: And like wise for the Oregon Ducks.

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Speaker 1: How about the unbeaten Miami Hurricanes. They're number two and.

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Speaker 9: Beating Miami Heriton and Ohio State. How could I form

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Speaker 9: my lips to talk about college football without talking about

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Speaker 9: the Ohio State buck Eyes for example. In fact, as

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Speaker 9: you correctly suggest, at the end of the season, it'll

3057
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Speaker 9: probably come down to the Miami Hurricanes and the Ohio

3058
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Speaker 9: State Buckeyes.

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Speaker 1: That'd be a great game. Shaving away from the top.

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Speaker 1: Dr Horne, you're gonna be at Montgomery College campus that

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Speaker 1: folks are asking me to if you can give them

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Speaker 1: again the name, the time, the date, the time and

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Speaker 1: the location on the college where you're going to be

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Speaker 1: on Friday, Friday.

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Speaker 9: October seventeenth, so a few days from now, indeed six

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Speaker 9: thirty pm, the downtown campus can fill the spring of

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Speaker 9: Montgomery College six thirty pm launching my newest book, The

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Speaker 9: Capital of Slavery, Washington DCC eighteen hundred to eighteen sixty five,

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Speaker 9: with obvious parallels to what's unfolding today as we speak.

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Speaker 1: And where on campus that's that's one of the they

3071
03:05:29,879 --> 03:05:31,880
Speaker 1: want to be specific where on campus you're going. Do

3072
03:05:31,920 --> 03:05:33,440
Speaker 1: you know where on campus you're going to be speaking?

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Speaker 9: I think it's called the Cultural Center, But go to

3074
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Speaker 9: event bright or go to my Facebook page for further details.

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Speaker 1: And the book tell us about the book. You're going

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Speaker 1: to have comparisions to what's going on today. It's in

3077
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Speaker 1: the book. Is that in the book or is just

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Speaker 1: going to make comparisons?

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Speaker 8: Well both.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think that it's no accident that Washington

3081
03:05:54,360 --> 03:05:58,359
Speaker 9: is oftentimes referred to as Chocolate City, and despite gentrification,

3082
03:05:59,200 --> 03:06:02,959
Speaker 9: that nickname still holds. That goes back to the era

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03:06:03,080 --> 03:06:07,160
Speaker 9: of slavery, when there was both a fear and dependence

3084
03:06:07,480 --> 03:06:11,560
Speaker 9: on the enslaved population. Fear that they would rise up

3085
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Speaker 9: and revolte as net Turner did in August eighteen thirty one,

3086
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Speaker 9: but dependent because the machinery of the city of Washington

3087
03:06:19,720 --> 03:06:23,840
Speaker 9: was heavily dependent upon free black labor. And indeed, if

3088
03:06:23,879 --> 03:06:27,560
Speaker 9: you scroll through the White House today, you'll continue to

3089
03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:34,600
Speaker 9: see a profusion of black workers, although today even with

3090
03:06:34,720 --> 03:06:36,439
Speaker 9: the lockdown, I think that they're paid.

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Speaker 1: Right five away from the top. Are one more time?

3092
03:06:40,640 --> 03:06:43,160
Speaker 1: Just give us the information and where folks can get

3093
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:45,160
Speaker 1: more information, because I want to have folks to turn

3094
03:06:45,200 --> 03:06:47,120
Speaker 1: out to see you on Friday again. I always say,

3095
03:06:47,160 --> 03:06:49,880
Speaker 1: whenever our scholars come to town, family, anty town. You

3096
03:06:49,959 --> 03:06:52,280
Speaker 1: hear they're in town, please go out there and support

3097
03:06:52,320 --> 03:06:54,280
Speaker 1: them and see them. Then you can say that you

3098
03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:57,240
Speaker 1: actually saw you and shook hands with doctor Jerald Horner

3099
03:06:57,240 --> 03:06:59,560
Speaker 1: any of our scholars. But he's going to be there Friday,

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Speaker 1: So give us again the information, doctor horn Well, once again,

3101
03:07:03,760 --> 03:07:04,119
Speaker 1: you can.

3102
03:07:04,040 --> 03:07:06,480
Speaker 9: Go to event bright or go to my Facebook page

3103
03:07:06,640 --> 03:07:08,640
Speaker 9: under my name jer Old morn h r n E.

3104
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Speaker 9: Or just note Friday, October seventeenth, six thirty pm, downtown

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Speaker 9: Silver Spring, Campus of Montgomery College in Maryland.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, so please show up and I'm sell

3107
03:07:25,280 --> 03:07:26,640
Speaker 1: of you. Some of the stuff that you can't talk

3108
03:07:26,640 --> 03:07:28,560
Speaker 1: about on the radio can talk about in person. There,

3109
03:07:28,640 --> 03:07:30,960
Speaker 1: that's another reason why you to show up and speak

3110
03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:33,360
Speaker 1: with doctor Horn. Doctor Horn, thank you, thank you, thank

3111
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Speaker 1: you for sharing all this information with us this morning.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for inviting.

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Speaker 1: All Right, family, that's it for the day. Have a

3114
03:07:39,879 --> 03:07:44,000
Speaker 1: good day. Class is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please

3115
03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:46,800
Speaker 1: please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock

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Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB, and also

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Speaker 1: in the DMV on FM ninety five point nine and

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Speaker 1: AM fourteen fifty WOL.