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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family in thanks for starting your Tuesday with us. Later,

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Speaker 1: Chairman Fred Hampton will report on his recent African trip.

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Speaker 1: But before we hear from the chairman, Atlanta based educator

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Speaker 1: doctor Chikka will share his techniques and he uses to

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Speaker 1: unlock what he terms the brilliance in our black students.

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Speaker 1: But before doctor CoA, Rachel Jones, a survivor of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Altaden of wildfires, will update us on

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Speaker 1: the rebuilding efforts, and momentarily Chicago actress pastor Anthony Williams

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Speaker 1: a little check in. But first let's get Kevin to

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Speaker 1: reopen these classroom doors. Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, Colonel Nelson, good morning, sir. It's a

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Speaker 2: wonderful Tuesday, the tenth of March. And how are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin's still learning, bro.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, And you know, there's a saying that goes

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Speaker 2: it's not how much you know, it's who knows you,

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Speaker 2: and so your connections and you seem to know and

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Speaker 2: everybody knows you, and you been educating all of us

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Speaker 2: as you continue to learn.

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Speaker 3: You see what I did there.

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Speaker 1: Is you know what that's interesting. But as being a journalist.

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Speaker 1: It's who you know, it's the contacts. How many people

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Speaker 1: you know can get a story. That's yes, you know

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Speaker 1: who to go to when the story breaks, who to

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Speaker 1: find And that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually degrees of separation and something like that, something

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Speaker 2: like that. You talk to a person, talk to a person,

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Speaker 2: and so it is important to have those connections. So

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Speaker 2: we're connected and we're allowing our listeners to become connected.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I feel about it, you know. And

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Speaker 2: our guess is the one of the friendliest pastors ever.

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Speaker 2: So you know, but first, let's talk about what's happening

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Speaker 2: in the news.

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Speaker 3: You want to hear some interesting facts, Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, Katarnji Brown Jackson, you know, one of the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justices, criticizes the Supreme Court emergency case handily.

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Speaker 3: She said that it's warped the process.

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Speaker 2: During a public event yesterday, speaking out at the Federal

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Speaker 2: NBC News that the frequent intervention and high profile controversies

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Speaker 2: prematurely signals outcomes before full legal reviews occur, and Justice

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Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh, appearing alongside her, offered a different perspective. Attributing

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Speaker 2: by presidents facing at gridlocked Congress, and Katanji Jackson noted

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Speaker 2: that the Court's willingness to entertain these motions creates an

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Speaker 2: unfortunate problem that does not serve the country well, making

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Speaker 2: a departure from practices seen only ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she's right, but it's also you know, Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: it's the same presidents, President Trump, you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know what what's he dodging? And I hope people

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Speaker 1: picked up on that it was she because that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what she's saying. They're covering for Donald Trumps some of

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Speaker 1: the people on the Supreme Court. But the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: about that, Kevin, is that they're together and they're disclosing.

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Speaker 1: I guess the fracture on the Supreme Court the disagreeable.

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Speaker 1: They totally disagree on issues, and Kavanaugh is trying to

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Speaker 1: all the for the executive channel, when it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: just for this particular president as we see. And that's

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Speaker 1: what she was and that's what Katanji was saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gavanaugh, in his argument, says that the justices

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Speaker 2: must rule one way or the other. Reminded critics that

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Speaker 2: Biden administration also frequently appealed to the High Court. Kavanaugh

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Speaker 2: suggested that some criticism is unfair, noting that president's plural

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Speaker 2: now rely heavily on executive orders to bypass the legislative hurdles,

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Speaker 2: which naturally leads to increased litigation and emergency filings. And

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Speaker 2: one last thing, Kevin I said, he said, you have

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Speaker 1: So well he seems to just have it adopted, these

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Speaker 1: was it vial xobs He probably rules some, but he's

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Speaker 1: still he's still showing his hands, Kevin that you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Trumpster. That's all that said shows

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't know if anybody else reach it differently.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's almost like he was appointed by.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Democrats draw a line on dynamic pricing for essential goods.

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Speaker 2: You know, every report said that the families across Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: against the use of you know, they're just making prices

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Speaker 2: they feature testimonies from consumer reports as well as today's

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Speaker 1: That's interesting that back came up. You know, especially now,

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Speaker 1: price is expected to go up, but they are going

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Speaker 1: Funny thing about price is Kevin prices don't go down

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Speaker 3: So we're in strength. We're in shrinkflation too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but prices don't go by, sizes go down.

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Speaker 2: The size of the products are going everything's getting smaller,

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Speaker 2: that the grim choice that's facing Donald Trump's administration is

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Speaker 2: economic or naval collapse. The Trump administration is currently trapped

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Speaker 1: If all well true that we have plenty of oil,

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Speaker 2: Well, I want you to recall the conversation we had

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile Kawait Iraq and the UAE are shutting off

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Speaker 2: That's right, right, there's an urgent need for a near

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Speaker 2: term solution, as the White House said, Finally, it's Women's

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Speaker 2: History Month, and our featured person for today is Paulie Murray.

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Speaker 3: Her full name is Anna Pauline, nicknamed Paulie Murray, an

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Speaker 3: American civil rights activist, advocate, legal scholar and theorist and

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Speaker 3: three times an Episcopal priest. Murray's work influenced the civil

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Speaker 3: read through her biography. At age sixteen, she moved to

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Speaker 3: a Bachelor of Arts degree in English in nineteen thirty three.

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Speaker 3: she earned her master's degree in law at the University

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Speaker 3: the first African American to receive a Doctor of Juridicial

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Speaker 2: Carl And as a lawyer, she argued for civil rights

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Speaker 2: Gold Marshall called Murray's nineteen fifty Booth States Laws on

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Speaker 2: Murray was appointed by President John F. Kennedy to serve

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one to sixty three. In sixty six, she

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Speaker 2: was a co founder of the National Organization for Women. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Anna Pauline Murray. And one final thing

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Speaker 2: about her. She was co founder of the National Organization

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Speaker 2: for Women. Did I say that? Ruth Bader Ginsburg named

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Speaker 2: her as co author of the ACLU brief in the

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Speaker 2: Marae held faculty or administrative administrative positions at the Ghana

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Speaker 2: School of Law, Benedict College, and Brainde's University. And then

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Speaker 2: she became an episcopal priest in nineteen seventy three. She

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Speaker 2: as Anna Pauline Murray or Woman's history person for today.

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Speaker 2: And that's the way it is on this Tuesday, the

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Speaker 5: Grand Rising to you also bother Nelson into the lusting audience. Man,

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Speaker 5: He's running to retain his former seat as congressman of

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Speaker 5: Well, basically, basically I watched basically and truthfully, man, I

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Speaker 5: Now he's running for office. He is a felon. And

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Speaker 5: but me knowing Jesse Jr. He's like meing the merciless.

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Speaker 5: Everything is strategic in terms of what he's doing right

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Speaker 5: That's what's going on. And if he returns to the House,

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Speaker 5: mister Nelson, he will get his seniority back. He served

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Speaker 1: And right now, let me join it for a second.

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, it's the primary is next Tuesday, March seventeenth.

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Speaker 5: What do you see, Well, you know, the Jackson political

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Speaker 5: He did, won't they Senate seat? But other things occurred

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Speaker 5: Well, the bottom the bottom line is is that you

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Speaker 5: back and did not protect the Lord Democrat. So I've

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Speaker 5: seen his moves before, and he's a leopard that has

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Speaker 5: not changed his spots. Now, the people in the second

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Speaker 5: Congressional District like another candidate named Emika Brown, she's a commissioner,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just praying that and I'm encouraging citizens to

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Speaker 5: vote for her. But a return of Jesse Jillia, it

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Speaker 5: is not good for the district, it's not good for

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Speaker 5: Black America, and it's not good for the nation because

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Speaker 5: the only agenda Jesse Jr. Has it's his own ambitious agenda.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought, right there. Let's let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: other things that were missing from the from the funeral.

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Speaker 1: And again, what the voice here? That's that's the opinion

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Speaker 1: that only a Pastor Williams. Let me throw that in there,

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Speaker 1: not mine, not Radio one or or Kevin or anybody else,

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Speaker 1: but Pastor Williams. And you agree with that, right, Pastor?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So also missing, and people

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Speaker 1: pointed out too, was missing was Michelle Obama wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: People didn't see any of the king people didn't see

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Speaker 1: Andy Younger. Was this talked about? Was the people who

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Speaker 1: didn't show up? We should have people like that should

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Speaker 1: have been on the front row at least the at

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Speaker 1: least in the first two or three rows of a

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Speaker 1: funeral for a Reverend Jesse Jackson that was was Was

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Speaker 1: there absence a discussion or people just chalk it off

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Speaker 1: to nothing.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, uh Andy Young's appeared in Carolina, where

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Speaker 5: Jesse's from, when he was when they had him lying

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Speaker 5: in state, so he did show up at one of

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Speaker 5: the events. In terms of the other people not being there,

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Speaker 5: I can't speak for them, but you know, one of

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Speaker 5: the things that people have talked about is this insight

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Speaker 5: that Josell Williams talks about with Jesse Singior, and that

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Speaker 5: sticks with a lot of people. You know, I don't

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Speaker 5: have a heaven of hell or put anybody in, but

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Speaker 5: I do know when I look at your body of work.

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Speaker 5: Everybody has a body of work, whether they like it

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Speaker 5: or not, it gives me some insights and to who

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Speaker 5: you are as a person. And you know a lot

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Speaker 5: of people, you know, they were respectful the fact that

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Speaker 5: Reverend Jackson had died in the family, etc. Etc. But

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Speaker 5: you know, in the Chicago area, we were keenly aware

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Speaker 5: of what Jesse really was, those of us who were

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Speaker 5: conscious enough and not afraid to say what we needed

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Speaker 5: to say about him, and I under and my own

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Speaker 5: interactions with him. It was not a healthy situation. And

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Speaker 5: so as you look at that funeral, it was a

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Speaker 5: reflection of his life and it was more political than anything,

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Speaker 5: because he was The church was just cover for Jesse Senor.

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Speaker 5: You can't find a recorded sermon on Jesse Jackson Senior,

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Speaker 5: look it up, but he took a text and he preached.

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Speaker 5: You could hear his rhetoric. So you know, various pros

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Speaker 5: and cons about Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you that though that particular point, though,

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Speaker 1: is that an issue for you as a pastor or

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Speaker 1: dained minister. You have a church. Reverend Jackson didn't have

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Speaker 1: a church again, and some said that he didn't want

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Speaker 1: it to be political, but you say he was more political,

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Speaker 1: the more pastoral, if you will. Is that an issue

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Speaker 1: for people like black pastors like you and see activists

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Speaker 1: who they have reverend before their name and get all

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Speaker 1: the accolades as are reverend a man of God, But

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Speaker 1: still they don't. As you mentioned, there's no evidence of

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Speaker 1: a recorded sermon that he did or a church that

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Speaker 1: he's affiliated. Does that bother you?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's always a concern because you know, you

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Speaker 5: have so many Charlatans that in in the ministry each

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Speaker 5: and every day. It depends on you know, training, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean I am a trained clergy person, and so

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Speaker 5: there's a process that you go through to become more

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Speaker 5: ordained to come into the ministry. Some denominations are times

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Speaker 5: and they make their own decisions in terms of their

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Speaker 5: men and women who are going into the ministry. In

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Speaker 5: terms of preachers getting involved with politics, I think we

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Speaker 5: better get involved. You have to be holistic in your ministry.

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Speaker 5: But when you use the ministry to exploit that's where

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Speaker 5: I have a problem. And so you know, to each

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Speaker 5: his own. You know, judgment will begin at the house

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Speaker 5: of the Lord first, so you know, you know that's

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Speaker 5: not something I encourage you to play around with. So

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Speaker 5: you know, when we look at the legacy of this

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Speaker 5: whole situation in the funeral, like I said, it was

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Speaker 5: a refleshing of Jesse's life. Oh, he would have loved

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Speaker 5: it if he was alive carrying it. You know, when

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Speaker 5: Jesus died, I heard they took him from the cross

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Speaker 5: to the tomb. When King died, they take him from

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Speaker 5: the church of the graveyard. But this was totally different,

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Speaker 5: and people were weary because of the fact that every

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Speaker 5: day something was going on. You know, they were parading

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Speaker 5: the man's body around man like it was the.

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Speaker 1: First right hold, I thought, right there, Pastor Williams, we

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Speaker 1: gotta step us out for a few months. We got

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Speaker 1: to check the latest news, trafficking, weather in our different cities.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes away from the top of the our family,

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Speaker 1: you want to join this conversation with past Anthony Williams

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Speaker 1: out of Chicago. Reach out to us should eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we're taking

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Speaker 1: phone calls as we check the news this next and

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Speaker 1: grind rising family. Thanks waking up with us on this

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. I guess's Pastor Anthony Williams out of Chicago

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Speaker 1: and discussing the aftermath of the Reverend Jesse Jackson's funeral.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to though, let me just remind

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Speaker 1: you come up later this morning we're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: chairman Fred Hampton, also educator Atlanta based educated doctor c

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Speaker 1: k at Coua. Also going to speak with Rochelle Jones.

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Speaker 1: Rochelle is a survivor of the twenty twenty five Altadena wildfires.

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Speaker 1: And later this week you're going to hear from former

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Speaker 1: FBI agent doctor Tyrone Powers, political blog of Brandon and

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Speaker 1: also a futuristic researcher, brother Sadeka McCary. All going to

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Speaker 1: be here this week. So if you are in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: make sure you keep that radio locked in tight on

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Speaker 1: ten ten w WELB, or if you're in the DMV

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Speaker 1: the Washington Metropolitan Era on fourteen fifty wl U. Pastor

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Speaker 1: Williams and Cliff in Connecticut wants to join the conversation

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Speaker 1: he's bringing in. He's online too, Grand Rise and Cliff,

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Speaker 1: you're only Pastor Williams, Hey, grand.

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Speaker 4: Resident of the coryl and Grand Rising and Pastor and listen, Pastor,

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Speaker 4: I listened to w v O N a lot, and

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Speaker 4: I've never seen a city where there was so much

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Speaker 4: tension amongst black folks, Pastor, and you quit me from

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Speaker 4: wrong and what's happened even right now as we speak.

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Speaker 4: You have Mayor Brandon Johnson, which is a black, a

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Speaker 4: black mayor, I think the third, the second or third

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Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, But nevertheless, I believe you have

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Speaker 4: fifty percent of the black community going against him. And

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Speaker 4: the reason why I'm saying is because of the fact

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Speaker 4: that politics you have blacks men that are in the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party, but pastor, the Democratic Party is controlled by

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Speaker 4: white Irish. And so the thing is is that what

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Speaker 4: white Irish is gonna put pick what negroes that they

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Speaker 4: want to control. And apparently is that and apparently what

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Speaker 4: happens is that the blacks that they control or that

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Speaker 4: they pick, they do not care about the grassroots black people.

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Speaker 4: So you have schools that are being shut down, you

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Speaker 4: have black teachers just like you have in Baltimore that

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Speaker 4: are losing their jobs. And this is under Democrats, not Republicans,

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Speaker 4: but Democrats. So the blacks men that feel that they've

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Speaker 4: been disrespected in terms of grass roots they changing and saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: we want to try the Republican Party. So you got

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of blacks man blacks for Trump, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so now to go back just a little bit further,

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Speaker 4: the best in my opinion, but I'll let you speak

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Speaker 4: to this the best mayor for black people. Many in

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Speaker 4: Chicago claim that it was Harold Washington. However, the attack

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Speaker 4: and some of the blacks that win against Harold Washington

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Speaker 4: to support Mayor Daily, who's been in there for over centuries.

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Speaker 4: Not only did his father win and stayed in office,

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Speaker 4: but his son stayed in office. So we're talking about

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Speaker 4: a white a white boy and his father and his

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Speaker 4: son just terrorizing the black community. But however, because he

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Speaker 4: was a Democrat, the black people man just kept putting

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Speaker 4: him in, kept putting him in, put his son in,

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Speaker 4: and the heart and the grassroots black community suffered. So

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Speaker 4: this is what we have. And so to say that

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Speaker 4: Mayor order to say that Jesse Jackson or Jesse you know,

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Speaker 4: it's personal whatever. I think. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 4: is is that it's more political. And the thing is

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Speaker 4: is that you have blacks that are fighting to get

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Speaker 4: in power because they want to take away the whole

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Speaker 4: notion of they got to turn pass the call taking

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Speaker 4: the bag, taking the pack, and they got a lot

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Speaker 4: of individuals made down, are called and stuck in taking

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Speaker 4: a bag. So who's going to be best for the

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Speaker 4: grassroots people in Chicago. That's the question.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Cliff Pastor. Is he correct to saying

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Speaker 1: he's a hot mess in your city?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Uh, he said a lot of things. Uh. As

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Speaker 5: it relates to Mary Johnson, he's in a he's in

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Speaker 5: a he's stuck between the rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 5: Because what what drowned him and made him unfavorable with

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Speaker 5: a lot of black voters is that, Uh, the immigration

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Speaker 5: price he's when it hit and black folks said, oh,

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Speaker 5: we suffering and y'all giving them housing and blah blah

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Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. That didn't sit well. You know,

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Speaker 5: that didn't sit well. And I think that his response.

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Speaker 5: First of all, he was taught off God, and his

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Speaker 5: response was not popular as it relates to the black community,

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Speaker 5: you know. And uh, and there's some mother things. So

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Speaker 5: you know, I was at a farm a congressional former

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Speaker 5: second congressional district, and they asked all the candidates, would

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Speaker 5: you support them? Raise your hand if you would support

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Speaker 5: them if he ran again.

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Speaker 7: No one.

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Speaker 5: Raised their hands, none of them, not even Jesse Jr.

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Speaker 5: So he's got some issues and they're already talking about

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Speaker 5: certain people running against him. And they are white. They're

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Speaker 5: not any black candies. They're white. So another thing to

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Speaker 5: address the issue is that I have witnessed over the

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Speaker 5: years the disappearance of authentic grass root work and even leadership.

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Speaker 5: And what we have now is a group of mercesnary

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Speaker 5: out here working saying that I'm the disguise as being activists,

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Speaker 5: but they're mercenaries. And in Chicago, that's one of our

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Speaker 5: biggest problems. We have too many mercenaries that are out

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Speaker 5: here saying they represent us. And then they take those

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Speaker 5: mercenaries and they put them status quote, puts them in place.

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Speaker 5: So you know, if I was I'll use this term,

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Speaker 5: you know, the black status quote their problem too, because

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Speaker 5: in their psychic they want to pretend as though they

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Speaker 5: have arrived and they have not arrived. Black folks to

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Speaker 5: have serious problems. But now with the departure of Jesse

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Speaker 5: Jackson seniors, that can possibly be a breakthrough. So everybody's

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Speaker 5: got to be Spartacus right now, somebo be Spartacus. And

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Speaker 5: then if you know history, Spartacus was not some white person.

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Speaker 5: Spartacus was actually a black man. So everybody be Spartacus

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Speaker 5: right now, you know, be an intelligence citizen. Work with

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Speaker 5: those you can, and one thing about it, the cream

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Speaker 5: will rise to the top. That's how it works, you know.

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Speaker 5: And what he needs now is service leaders and not

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Speaker 5: somebody saying I'm your leader, because this days of this

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Speaker 5: monolithic leadership is over. When you look at when we

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Speaker 5: talked about black folks going red, well, the Republican Party

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Speaker 5: of the Maga party, that is a monolithic party. The

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Speaker 5: Democratic Party is the big tent party. And so that's

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Speaker 5: why it's difficult for them to agree on a lot

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Speaker 5: of things because they got a lot of issues. But

647
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: then there's a bigger picture. If America is to move forward,

648
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: then we have got to be able to identify and

649
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: support those persons who have our best interests. You know,

650
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 5: I tell black folks what you're getting mad at black politicians? Fuck,

651
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: but they don't do nothing. I say, well, first of all,

652
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 5: you don't select them, you don't vet them, and you

653
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 5: don't financially support them. So when one of them is

654
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: picked out by the status quote, they're going to finance them,

655
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 5: et cetera, etcetera. That's how that goes. That's how it goes.

656
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 5: Until you break that cycle, you're gonna get what you

657
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: donna get But yet I'm hopeful. I'm always hopeful because

658
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 5: change is needed right now, and as we see what's

659
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 5: going on in this world, we just pray and hope

660
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 5: for the best for change.

661
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Speaker 1: But Joey jump here at nine away from the top

662
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: down where Cliffs saying, you know about the city being

663
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: a hot mess, but when when they're attacking the mayor,

664
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Speaker 1: when whenever black people attack each other, this is this

665
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: is how the you know, racist and white supremacy works

666
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: because we're we're attacking each other. That's that's what the

667
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: oppressor loves because we're not thinking about him. He creates

668
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Speaker 1: the chaos between us. And somebody just tweeted and told

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Speaker 1: me that this is why we're talking. If Jesse Jr.

670
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Was trying to get attention, we're helping him because we're

671
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Speaker 1: discussing him this morning. So I want to ask you

672
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: this question though, especially about the mayor and the fact

673
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: that so many people are upset with the mayor on

674
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: a singular issue as immigration. Do you see that he

675
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: can turn that around? Is that going to be like

676
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: for like For a lot of the in religious community,

677
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: abortion is a singular issue and they vote online. Again,

678
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Speaker 1: if you're if you if they feel you support abortion,

679
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: they're going against you. Is this issue going to come

680
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Speaker 1: up when when when the mayor gets ready for for reelection,

681
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Speaker 1: if he does run for reelection.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's going that's going to come up fun center,

683
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: And the issue of virus is going to come up

684
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: fun center, you know, and the decline of the and

685
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 5: the decline of the black community gonna come up front

686
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: and center. So I assume he's doing the best he can.

687
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 5: But right now I wouldn't want to be in his

688
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: place because he has so many people that are against him.

689
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: And when I witnessed elected officials and people seeking office

690
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 5: say no, I wouldn't I wouldn't support him, I said, Okay,

691
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: he got a problem.

692
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: Does he know he has a problem? Can he can he?

693
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Since the pulse of the people, especially the black people

694
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: as well, it's difficult to get white folks anyway. You've

695
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: got to be one hundred percent correct in anything you

696
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: do to get white folks to think that you you were,

697
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Speaker 1: especially at least the day and age that you you're

698
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Speaker 1: competent to hold a job, you run a city. Uh,

699
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: but when you have your own people turn against it.

700
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: Are you seeing any Bible alternatives out there.

701
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: Well, I haven't seen anything because I haven't been paying

702
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 5: too much tension. But I haven't seen anything nor heard anything.

703
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 5: But if Johnson is to be erected, re elected or anybody, see,

704
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 5: I tell people, you got to be different. Don't be

705
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: like the same thing you see. You got to be different.

706
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: You got to be different. And that doesn't mean that

707
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: you have to become a Charlottean or you got to

708
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 5: become a con artist or whatever. But if you're sincere,

709
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: then you'll seek to be different. And what he's got

710
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: to do the want a reelection. He's got to become different.

711
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: He's got to he's got to reinvent himself, and he's

712
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: got to be on ten as it relates to sincerity.

713
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: But then I filed out man. You know, as I

714
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: make observations, people would brother have the dirty glass of

715
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 5: water in the clean glass of water. Man. And that's

716
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 5: another thing, because human beings are paradoxical creatures, messy people.

717
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: So let's see what's gonna happen with him?

718
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Speaker 7: All right?

719
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Speaker 1: It hold that thought right. Stan's checking in from Chicago.

720
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Speaker 1: He's online too. Grand Rising standire on with Pastor Williams.

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Speaker 8: Readings in Grand Rising Carl and Pastor Williams Collins from

722
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 8: Chicago born and raised. I was wondering, Pastor Williams, you

723
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 8: know if you could speak to the family's stakes in

724
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 8: Anheuser Busch. I believe was it YUSA?

725
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 9: When Jonathan Jackson in nineteen ninety eight they basically became

726
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 9: a regional distributor to Anheuser Busch. I can't imagine, or

727
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 9: I can't think of any other drug or being in

728
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 9: the world that has taken more Black lives or people.

729
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 9: But I don't know that that's something that people talk

730
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 9: about how Jesse Jackson did do a lot of boycotts

731
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 9: and so forth in the eighties, but fifteen years later

732
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 9: they end up getting this major contract or regional distribution

733
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 9: of alcohol in Chicago. That's something you could speak to

734
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Speaker 9: in terms of some of the things you were already saying,

735
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 9: in terms of how there was a fine line in

736
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Speaker 9: terms of how he used to speak the church, and

737
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 9: you know, all these other things to enrich his family.

738
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Speaker 1: All right, And I tell you, well, hold thank you

739
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: Stan for that question. But we got to step asid

740
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: and get caught up on the trafficing weather. Not different

741
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: cities I'll let the Pastor Williams respond when he gets back. Hey, family,

742
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: you two can get in on this conversation. We're discussing Chicago,

743
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: specifically what happened at Reverend Jesse Jackson's funeral and then

744
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: now we found out his son actually the outbursts may

745
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: be another reason for that out burst. He's running for office.

746
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Eight hundred four or five zero

747
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six were taken phone calls after we

748
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: check the traffic weather. That's next and grand Rising family,

749
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us on this Tuesday morning.

750
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Speaker 1: And I guess the Chicago activist Pastor Anthony Williams and

751
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: Mama Tail. We're going to speak to his sister, Rochelle Jones,

752
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: who woke up early for us this morning. She's one

753
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: of the survivors as the Altadena fires that was took

754
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: place at twenty twenty five. She's going to get an

755
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: update on how the rebuilding process is going. But Pastor Williams,

756
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: I litter you the stands question out of Chicago, and

757
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: this is something that Steve Cochley investigated and found out

758
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of those boycotts that took place,

759
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: and at the end of the boycott, the Jackson's got franchises.

760
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And this is what to stand with talking about in Chicago.

761
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: Is that well known in the city.

762
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's well known. It was the youngest son,

763
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: you suf that got to be a distributed that's because

764
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: of Jesse's relationship with the with the Bush family. So

765
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: he got it and uh he ran it for years.

766
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: But now the youngest son is the CEO of uh

767
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 5: their organization, Rainbow Push. So you know, basically the family

768
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: is trying to keep the franchise alive, you know. Uh,

769
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Speaker 5: and that's what they trenned it into a franchise. I mean,

770
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 5: Jesse turned civil rights into a franchise, you know, like

771
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: the old burbankinge commercial Habit your Ways, and that's what

772
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: he did.

773
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I thought, yeah, hold, I thought there we

774
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: got some more folks want to talk to you, pastor him,

775
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: So we're racing the clock. You got Rochelle Jones we

776
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: need to bring up. But let's go to the system

777
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: for him is coming from Washington, d C online six

778
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Grand Rising system for him A youngly pastor Williams.

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Speaker 10: Oh, yes, good morning, thank you for taking my call.

780
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 10: And good morning, Pastor Williams. When the Gentleman had called

781
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 10: in to mention about the division, I really I thought

782
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 10: you were going to talk about it. And I'm not

783
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 10: going to call these people's names, but there are black

784
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 10: people who are MAGA. Two separate groups turned Chicago Red.

785
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 10: One of them who was trying to run on the

786
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 10: GOP for Danny Davis's seat. She took responsibility for calling

787
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 10: Ice to come and raise that apartment building that had

788
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 10: a number of black people displaced. And these people go

789
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 10: on Fox News and these right wing news outlets disparaging Chicago,

790
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 10: disparaging the mayor. And I would have hoped that when

791
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 10: the gentleman had spoke about the division, that you would

792
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 10: have addressed them. And you know who they are, Mark Carter,

793
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 10: Patricia Easley and that other person. These people are bought

794
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 10: and paid for by MAGA, and they in fact, when

795
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 10: jo Corps was dismantled, Patricia Easy got on a platform

796
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 10: and said that these people were getting jobs that really

797
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 10: were dead ends. And I interact with many of these folks,

798
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 10: and the fact of the matter is they are destructive,

799
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 10: and they're handkerchief heads, and they are disgraceful, and they

800
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 10: are the source of the division because they are being

801
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 10: bought and paid for by MAGA. And I'll call back

802
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 10: on Friday to speak to some of the other things.

803
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 10: I wasn't gonna call I wasn't gonna call in until Friday.

804
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 10: But when you fail to mention the negative impact that

805
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 10: these black sellouts who are called clintenting, that they're gonna

806
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 10: turn Chicago read and are nothing but the real enemy

807
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 10: of black people, and you didn't mention it, I was

808
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 10: really disappointed, sir.

809
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: That's give them a chance. Thank you, Sistani.

810
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: Sister for him are exactly right. I'm familiar with some

811
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: of those people in terms of pushing this MAGA ideology. Well,

812
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: those are mercenaries. Man. It's no way in my right

813
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 5: mind I would tell anybody to vote for anything related

814
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: to Trump. That's insane. But the bottom line is that

815
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: we must intelligently leverage the Democratic Party and the status

816
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: quote Democrats. They need to be more they need to

817
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: be more visionary, you know they. I mean, we see

818
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 5: what's happening, We see what's going on in the country.

819
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: Black folks caught in the middle, So we must be

820
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 5: wiser order that we might survive and bring the next

821
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: generation forward, So this is the time to be wise

822
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: right now. But it ain't no secrets out here because

823
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 5: one of the things these people that she spoke about

824
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: our mercenaries they had. I mean, it's it's insane some

825
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: of the things that you see out here. But you

826
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: got to understand the times. America is a very sick

827
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: place right now.

828
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Speaker 1: Well before I let you go, So next tuesdays the

829
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Speaker 1: election with Jesse Junior is on the ballot, and you say,

830
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: he's got like six other folks running against him. Are

831
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: you concerned that they may split the vote and he'll

832
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: get elected? Or is it fifty plus one? How does

833
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: that work? And it's the two top vote get us?

834
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: How does it work out there?

835
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Speaker 5: Whoever gets the most votes is elected to go into

836
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: the general. So you know, whoever gets the most votes,

837
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: that's who wins the election. So that's that's how the

838
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 5: primary go. So you know, we'll see. But I'm praying

839
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: that the young lady Eumika Brown win because Jesse Junior

840
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 5: is unfit. Man. He has too many issues, man, he

841
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: has too much stuff going on, and you know, I

842
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: would like to see this cycle of jackson Ism come

843
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: to an end. It is very unhealthy for our community,

844
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: for our people. We had to deal with it for

845
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 5: fifty years. Is you can't show me anything of production

846
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: out of that except the man promoted himself. That's it.

847
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 5: There's no benefit from well.

848
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're speaking about junior or senior.

849
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm talking about both. There's no benefit from what they've done.

850
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 5: You know, he was in office, nothing happened. He was

851
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 5: there seventeen years. Man, that's a long time. Did he

852
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: never touched his pension, but he got over one hundred

853
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 5: thousand dollars a years for disability. That's what he did. Disability.

854
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 5: He gets a disability.

855
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Speaker 1: Check right all right, you know, pastor. And we got

856
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: to cut it that because we're just a flat out

857
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Speaker 1: of time. But I want to thank you for shedding

858
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: light because most of us don't know what really what's

859
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: going on in New York City and there's the Cliff said,

860
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: it's a hot message, a whole kind of stuff going

861
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: on and system Fahima mentioned that the black groups there

862
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: at the VISSIP and ain't time we divided. The only

863
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: person that wins is the oppressor. So I don't know

864
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: if someone if you can start preaching some unity in

865
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Chicago to get the brothers and sisters to come together

866
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: on one in unison, because you know, it seems like

867
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: there's a hidden hand keeping us divided. And you get

868
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: pretty soon you probably run the mayor out of office,

869
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: and then you have then you have one of the

870
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: colonizes running running Chicago again, and you still be upset.

871
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: But Pastor Williams, thank you, sir, thank you for ship

872
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: and and let me know next Tuesday, call me tell

873
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: me who wins.

874
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: Okay, bless you in the audience.

875
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, peace as Pastor Anthony Williams and

876
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: the game. The comments that you heard of Pastor Williams

877
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: his own, not mine, not Radio one, not Urban one,

878
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: not Kevin sbody else, but Pastor Williams. Let me get

879
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: that straight right there. Eight after the top day out,

880
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: Rochelle Jones, Grand Rising, welcome back to the program.

881
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 11: Thank you, thank you. How are you?

882
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you doing?

883
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 12: I am doing good. It's finally been from light at

884
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 12: the end of the tunnel.

885
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Let me share with the family first, who Rochelle is.

886
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: Rochelle Is wanted the survivors of the twenty twenty five

887
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Altadena fires that just level the parts of Altadena and

888
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: neighboring Pasadena as well, homes just burnt to the ground,

889
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: just ashes. It was just it's just unreal. It's almost

890
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: like a it alms like it was bombed out, you know,

891
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: it's like what we see now in Beirut. It's just

892
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: levels to the ground. Are those fires. But you say

893
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: there's been some movement to help us out here. What's

894
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: been improving from you where you stand.

895
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 11: Well, yesterday we broke ground on my parents' land. Our

896
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 11: contractors and workers were actually out yesterday rebuilding our home

897
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 11: and also looking around our community. Other people are doing

898
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 11: the same, our neighbors and different people in our community

899
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 11: as well.

900
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: You know what, I've spoken some folks out there just

901
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: yesterday actually, and they told me one of the things

902
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: that concerned me now is environmental issues. Are you satisfied

903
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: with all those environment issues of taking care of because

904
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: they saying that there might be still still some you know,

905
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: problems with the water, problem with the air because of

906
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: those fires. Are you satisfied with what's been done?

907
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 11: You know, we've had our soil check. Our soil seems

908
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 11: to be good, but of course there's always issues with

909
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 11: that because those are things that some things are you

910
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 11: can't see, you know what I mean. So yeah, it's

911
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 11: always an issue with that because you can't really see

912
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 11: everything that's going on over there. I mean, it looks

913
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 11: good when you check the air quality in our area,

914
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 11: it's okay.

915
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 12: But you know, you never really know.

916
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: You really don't really know, because and then it will

917
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: show up ten twenty years or maybe a generation after,

918
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: and they start checking back, Oh, this is caused by

919
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: this rare form or whatever. You know, it was triggered

920
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: by what happened after the fires.

921
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 11: Wow, exactly is very scary. It's very scary all in this.

922
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: So ten after the top of the our family. Rochelle Jones,

923
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: a survivor of the twenty twenty five Altadena fires, How

924
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: was the year for you though? You know, being from home? Folks,

925
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: if you travel, you know, after two weeks you're ready

926
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: to come back home. You know, I don't about other people.

927
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: After two weeks, it doesn't matter, you know, I'm ready

928
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: to go back home. You know, just to have your

929
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: own bathroom, you know, just little things that you think about.

930
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's living in a hotel, living somewhere else,

931
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: in somebody else's place, with you've ready to go back home,

932
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: But you did you endure that for a year? Now?

933
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: How was it that year?

934
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 11: It's been hard putting yourself in a small space to

935
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 11: live in after you already you know, you lost your

936
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 11: home and you used to nothing but space. You used

937
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 11: to see your own things.

938
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 12: You don't even.

939
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 11: Realize that you lost this or that until it's time

940
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 11: for you to use that thing, or like I'm saying,

941
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 11: being stuffed up in the two bedroom home, but also

942
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 11: being grateful at the same time that you have somewhere

943
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 11: to live while your home is being rebuilt. So it's

944
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 11: kind of just like an up and and down because

945
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 11: you complaining, but you're grateful at the same time. But

946
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 11: it's been very hard waiting on the permitting companies to

947
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 11: do what they're supposed to do. Like my dad said yesterday,

948
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 11: they see their job as a nine to five, But

949
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 11: we're on the other end wanting to go home, and

950
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 11: you know, they weren't handling their business the way that

951
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 11: they should have been doing and they're prolonging us.

952
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 12: Getting back home. And that is the main goal.

953
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 11: Right there, is to get back home. Our contractors gave

954
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 11: us a contract in between twelve and eighteen months, but

955
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 11: my dad is shooting for nine or ten. You know,

956
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 11: they're ready to go home.

957
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 12: They're ready to go home.

958
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can understand anxiety getting back into your home,

959
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: own home after being away for a year. But you know,

960
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: let me ask the contractors. You know, I always say

961
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: that the contractors who are trying to they're trying to

962
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: get people to sign up. They thought probably I lived

963
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: up there and asking well, this is your house. You know,

964
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: they wanted to sign us up. But the sad part

965
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: about it, Rochelle, none of them looked like us. They

966
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: were all you know, everybody except us. There's benefiting from

967
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: what most of those houses well, many of those houses

968
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: were owned by black families and passed on through generations.

969
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: Are you seeing people look like us working as contractors?

970
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Is that a requirement or people really don't care. They

971
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: just want to get their homes back together.

972
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 11: Very very very very few people that look like us.

973
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 12: It's very very very few.

974
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 11: And there are people that are going up trying to

975
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 11: get jobs and trying to get work that they're qualifying

976
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 11: for to do certain things, but they don't allow you

977
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 11: to because they're either all sold up or they're all

978
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 11: spoken for at the jobs.

979
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Uh you know, if anybody should benefit, you know,

980
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: it should it should be our people who live there.

981
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: We should because there's a lot of people out there

982
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: can do those work, the work that they're doing the cleanup. First,

983
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: the cleanup and now the construction. I folks should have

984
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: first DIBs on that. And I think, you know, I

985
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: know the people are really their minds are all upset,

986
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: so there's not something that's first on their minds, you know,

987
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: as an outside of me going in there and taking

988
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: a look and seeing none of us, you know, in

989
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: the cleanup at that point it was a cleanup era.

990
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Nobody looked like us. We got everybody under the sun

991
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: that was doing the cleanup. I know, we got black

992
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: people in La can do that, so that that was

993
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: a concerner. But I'm not emotionally tied to the land

994
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: like you are, so that probably wasn't first the first

995
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: that you thought about when you saw the rebuilding and

996
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: now the construction process.

997
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, my own guy does some of

998
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 11: the work and stuff too, So every time I see

999
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 11: contractors are stuff out, like I'm throwing a resume around,

1000
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 11: are hitting things around, but you know it's just not.

1001
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 12: Working.

1002
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 11: Oh well, we'll let you know, and are you know,

1003
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 11: maybe they're put down at the end of the list

1004
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 11: in case somebody gets hurt or you know, sick or whatever.

1005
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 12: But it's not just.

1006
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 11: Like an open door. You're right then. And then if

1007
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 11: it is a black down company, then you know everybody

1008
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 11: has questions for them or gorillaing them.

1009
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 12: Are you real? Are you fague?

1010
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1011
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 12: You know what I mean? It's never like a trust issue.

1012
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 11: But if our press it comes in and listen to

1013
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 11: every single thing that person says.

1014
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a big issue with some of us,

1015
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: have it. We don't trust each other. We don't think

1016
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: we're small enough or competent enough to do the do

1017
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: the job. And I guess that's it's all a part

1018
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: of self hate. But people don't understand that. You know,

1019
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: hopefully folks are waking up these days because if you're

1020
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: smart enough to do it, brother's a different occupation. He's

1021
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: smart enough to do it as well. And you're right,

1022
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: those trust issues coming. But I got to ask you

1023
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: this though, Rochelle, Uh, the things that you missed the

1024
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: most after the fire and because you've left everything, everything

1025
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: was gone, your family, your dad, everything was gone. What

1026
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: did you miss the most. What the sentimental values, because

1027
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, money can replace some things, but there's a

1028
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff that that have sentimental veil that

1029
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: no amount of money can replace.

1030
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's definitely the sentimental things. Things that we did

1031
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 11: with family, family pictures, family accomplishments, those type of things

1032
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 11: that were you know, on the walls, or the things

1033
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 11: that people worked hard for to obtain, and things that

1034
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 11: are passed down from generation to generation like furniture again, pictures,

1035
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 11: and just things that really hold value and meaning that we're.

1036
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 12: Lost in that fire.

1037
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 11: That is stuff like that that could never be replaced, books,

1038
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 11: journals from generations above. Like, it's just a lot of

1039
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 11: little things like that that you could never get back.

1040
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold that thought right there. Weve got to step

1041
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: aside for a few moments. Seventeen after the time Family

1042
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: YouTube can get in on this conversation, I guess the

1043
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: Rochelle Jones Rochelle and a family survivors of the twenty

1044
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: twenty five Altadena fires, What are your thoughts? What would

1045
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: you do if you know you lost everything, just have

1046
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: the clothes on your back. You got to start restart,

1047
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: as you say, your life all over, you know, the story.

1048
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

1049
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take it. Phone calls

1050
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: next bank Ground Rising Family, thanks for starting your Tuesday

1051
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: with us. At twenty minutes after the top, they with

1052
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: I guess the Rochelle Jones Rochelle and a family. They

1053
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: are survivors of the twenty twenty five wildfires in Altadna.

1054
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Many of the folks who lived out there look like us.

1055
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: Many of those homes been in the families for years,

1056
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: any of them too elderly, and now Rochelle tell us

1057
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: that they're going to break down. Now she gave it

1058
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: a chance to get back into their own home, but

1059
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: it's but Rochelle's. You know, it's going to be different though, right.

1060
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 11: Yes, definitely going to be different.

1061
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the other the house and and you know,

1062
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: people who can think about just just you lose everything,

1063
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: it displaced, and you've been displaced for a whole year.

1064
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Finally you've got to restart, and the energy is different

1065
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: in this new house because it's new and you've got

1066
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: to start, you know, rebuilding your life back together. What

1067
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: was it like though for an entire year puts your

1068
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: life on hold? While the rebuilding process was going on,

1069
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: What was it like for you and you're family?

1070
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 11: Extremely stressing. My mom she just really could not handle

1071
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 11: it at all. She actually was almost like born in

1072
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 11: the home. She came near when she was like four

1073
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 11: or five, so there's a lot of memories there. She

1074
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 11: spent a lot of time there and maybe a few

1075
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 11: years away from the home as she went through college

1076
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 11: and stuff like that. But it's very stressing because she

1077
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 11: just couldn't handle it. It was times that she would

1078
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 11: just go up there and just cry, cry, cry, and

1079
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 11: being in a different home again, thankful that you're not homeless,

1080
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 11: but at the same time just running in your mind

1081
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 11: what you used to have and trying to figure out

1082
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 11: why would something like this happened to you. And like

1083
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 11: you said, it's different, It's going to be different. It

1084
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 11: already is been different. It's been different from day one.

1085
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 11: Home is really home. Home is really where everything starts

1086
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 11: and everything ends. And even when we do move back in,

1087
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 11: like you said, things a gonna be different, and it's

1088
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 11: gonna be still getting something, getting used to, still fighting

1089
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 11: to make you feel like home because it's not home.

1090
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna take some time, but Rochelle, what about

1091
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: your neighbors neighbors, are they rebuilding as well? Have they

1092
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: moved on?

1093
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 11: The whole block is rebuilding, So it does make us

1094
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 11: feel very good. We'll still have the same neighbors. I

1095
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 11: think only maybe one house on our streets survived. And

1096
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 11: this guy, he was he was very very quiet, but

1097
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 11: when we were up there yesterday, he had a lot

1098
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 11: to say. He was very thankful, very grateful to see

1099
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 11: was breaking ground and kept telling us congratulations, welcome home, this, that,

1100
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 11: and that. Everybody is like ready to be back together again.

1101
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 11: And it's also brung some people together who weren't really

1102
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 11: connected on our block as well.

1103
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 12: So that's a good.

1104
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1105
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you about the guy they lived

1106
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: on your block and his house. And this is the

1107
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: thing of the fire family. It hopscotch. It would hit

1108
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: one block and then or skip a house and hit

1109
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: another house or partially burn the house, depending on where

1110
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: the wind was blowing at the time. This was some

1111
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: fierce hurricane kind of wins, fire wins. Did he feel

1112
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: any ways, you know that his house was saved and

1113
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: all of you guys house burned down. Did he ever

1114
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: talk about that, because you know, did he feel sort

1115
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: of guilty. Somehow God or the creators spared him and

1116
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: his family, and what you guys have to go through.

1117
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 11: Well, you know one thing I did hear from him

1118
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 11: and other people who have their homes still there, they

1119
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 11: do so guilty, but they also feel like, well, would

1120
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 11: it have been better off of my house burned down

1121
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 11: to the ground Because they come back home and everybody

1122
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 11: their environment is destroyed. They don't have no neighbors. For

1123
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 11: some people, neighbors is all they have, you know what

1124
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 11: I mean, And they're like, why is my house still standing?

1125
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 11: I have a whole house that acts.

1126
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Yah, we lost Rochelle, hopefully we all lost Rochelle.

1127
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: Kevin.

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: Can you see I think maybe a line dropped twenty

1129
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: four minutes after the top of our family were speaking

1130
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: of Rochelle Jones, Rochelle and their family, of the survivors

1131
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five Altadena fire. You know, we

1132
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: went out there, and so it was out there, what

1133
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: was going on. It was like Beirut. It was just

1134
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: just bombed at was flat. But then again you'd go

1135
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: past another block, maybe a house is standing or or

1136
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: one that's just scorched, or then they go back and

1137
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: and the rest of them are just leveled. It's all gone,

1138
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: and you wonder, you know, and this is the question

1139
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: you're asking her because you're there and all of a sudden,

1140
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: your house is saved, and the entire neighborhood you've got,

1141
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: you got, you got rows and rows of blocks and

1142
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: blocks that that's God. So rush out that finished downship

1143
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: out the story about your friend whose house was spared.

1144
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1145
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 11: So I was just saying that they feel guilty, But

1146
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 11: at the same time, they're also feeling like a lot

1147
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 11: of them had homes that they you know, that were

1148
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 11: still standing, that weren't safe to go in. So they

1149
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 11: all often wondered, is it worth it that my house

1150
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 11: made it? Because I can't even get to it, it's

1151
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 11: not even safe. And when I do get to it,

1152
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 11: there's nobody around me. Everybody's house is on the floor.

1153
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 11: So they went into like a depression as well, because

1154
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 11: their environment and community, the way they knew it and

1155
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 11: loved it.

1156
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 12: Was no longer there.

1157
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 11: So who really went And the persons whose house is

1158
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 11: on the floor are the person whose house standing.

1159
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: Or the person or the person who's home was was scorched.

1160
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: There's some people who are just something fumes of smoke damage,

1161
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: if you will, exactly, and they had to go through

1162
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: a whole renovation and environmental issue before they could move

1163
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: back in. But you say, most folks that are okay

1164
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: with the environmental issues today.

1165
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 13: Right, well, they're okay with it.

1166
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 11: I mean, I guess okay. Well I don't wouldn't say

1167
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 11: that they're okay with it.

1168
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 12: Some of them really don't have a.

1169
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 11: Choice, Carl, rather they're okay with it or not at

1170
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 11: the grounds or the air is safe or healthy. Some

1171
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 11: people just really don't have that choice. They got a

1172
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 11: pression hope that everything is okay.

1173
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because some of these things don't, like we mentioned,

1174
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: don't show up their generations after And I wonder why

1175
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: so many people in one particular era have this particular problem.

1176
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: But I got to ask you this about the elderly,

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: because a lot of elderly folks lived in Altade in

1178
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: opacity in the area. And they again, these these family

1179
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: these are gorgeous houses. You see these houses. And even

1180
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: though there was gorgeous ones, the ones that were on

1181
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: touch you looked at them. Man, he said, these are

1182
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: some nice houses. They're like mini mansions. The ones that

1183
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: I saw that survived the fire. So so you know,

1184
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: it's just I'm just trying to share with their family

1185
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: what it's like when most of them are black owned,

1186
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: and again they go from generation to generation. Many people

1187
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: they're they're house rich and cash poor. I mean, they've

1188
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: got so much their their retirement, everything's tied up into

1189
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: the house where you know, they don't have that that

1190
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: that the alternative income to survive on the elderly though, Rochelle,

1191
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: because last time we spoke, we talked about the elderly,

1192
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: some of them had misgivings whether or not they would

1193
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: stay because maybe they're uh, they they don't think the

1194
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: rebuilding would take place before they checked out. What are

1195
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: you hearing about our elderly brothers and sisters in Altadena

1196
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: who suffered from the fire.

1197
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 11: There is some elderly that I know personally who are

1198
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 11: witnessing their home being rebuilt with their own eyes. I

1199
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,879
Speaker 11: have a family friend who has a contractor that said

1200
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 11: his number one goal was to make sure that Ms.

1201
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 11: Bailey was able to see her house and walk through

1202
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 11: her house, and he kept his promise. He did exactly that.

1203
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 11: Like right now, they're just they're like doing the final

1204
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 11: touches on the home and she's able to see her

1205
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 11: brand new home, and she's in her nineties and it's

1206
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 11: a beautiful thing. But I also know people who watched

1207
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 11: their home burnt down, homes that they built with their spouse,

1208
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 11: and maybe their spouse is no longer here, or maybe

1209
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 11: their spouse is still there, and they're watching the things

1210
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 11: that they built kind of just trinkle down into ashes

1211
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 11: and they don't know what direction to go. And Carl, unfortunately,

1212
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 11: I've also witnessed some of the elderly people that had

1213
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 11: homes that passed away since the fire. A lot of

1214
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 11: people and not just the elderly people my age and

1215
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 11: people a little older than me passing away from strokes

1216
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 11: and heart attacks and stuff like that because they can't

1217
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 11: take the stress of what's going on. But yeah, I

1218
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 11: witnessed that there have been like some elderly funerals since

1219
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 11: last year.

1220
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, sorry to hear that. Thirty minutes after top

1221
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: of their family just checking in, I guess it is

1222
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: Rochelle Jones. Rochelle and her family are survivors of the

1223
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Altadena fires. It took out took out

1224
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: a lot of homes owned by people look like us,

1225
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: been in their families for years, for decades, generations, I

1226
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: should say, and this is what we're discussing this morning,

1227
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: and let me just share something with the family because

1228
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: they maybe forgot because you know a lot of times

1229
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: because we're not there, like you, it's on your mind

1230
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. You know, those of us who

1231
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: were weren't there, who haven't even seen what happened in

1232
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: Altadena Pasadena area, that really can't really can't you know,

1233
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: understand what happened. Let me just say this the fire.

1234
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: There was one brother we spoke to and we went

1235
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: to his house actually, and he said he heard about

1236
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: the fire. You know then, so there's always fires there,

1237
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: he says, on the mountains, and so you know, it's

1238
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: just another fire. So he went and he went to

1239
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: the fast food joint, the jointing, he went to a

1240
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: fast food and he come back with this burger. His

1241
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: house was on fire, almost burned to the ground. He says,

1242
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: I was in government at thirty minutes, that was how

1243
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: fast the wind with these flames and destroyed his home.

1244
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: And when I was he was just looking, he was

1245
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: just staring at the at the house. What was left

1246
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: of the house, I should say I always left was

1247
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: the fireplace, and you could see where his appliance has

1248
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: made it as well. But everything cars and all that,

1249
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: everything was gone, and he was just sitting it's just

1250
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: standing there and oh wow, he's he's It was like

1251
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: he was he was still in shock. And this was

1252
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: a few days it might have been a week after

1253
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: the fire when I went out there and they had

1254
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: the conversation with him. Stories like that don't get told,

1255
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, Natally. I know the local news people have

1256
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: done a great job in covering what's going on in

1257
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: Altadna and the resurgence of Altadna. But are you seeing

1258
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: because I've been hearing too that a lot of the

1259
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: homes of being bought up by corporations. Are you hearing

1260
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: anything like that.

1261
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 12: Rochelle, Yes, I have.

1262
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 11: The last end part I was breaking up on my phone,

1263
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 11: was doing some issues. But Carl, everything that's going on

1264
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 11: with these fires have just like bought in the best

1265
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 11: and the worst in people in ways that you wouldn't

1266
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 11: even imagine.

1267
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: No, we can understand there's always going to be some

1268
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,879
Speaker 1: folks gonna, you know, try to take advantage of bad situation.

1269
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: But you have another question for you though, at twenty

1270
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: eight minutes away from the top of the rochelle, is

1271
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: there anything or can anything be done so this is

1272
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: this is doesn't repeat itself and we have another you know,

1273
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: wildfire and the wings are whipping and it starts on

1274
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: the mound right there because some of these houses and

1275
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: nestled right up against the against these hills, not mountains

1276
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: or the hills. Is there anything being done so that

1277
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: if they would have a fire like that again, that

1278
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: your homes are protected or.

1279
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 11: We're right at the top of the cayne, so we're

1280
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 11: right on the mountain, like the mountain is our backyard.

1281
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,440
Speaker 11: We have to do like the the new fire resistant

1282
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 11: things like you know, to keep the homes from like

1283
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 11: catching a fire or even catching a fire so vastly.

1284
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 11: Like there's different protocols and regulations that the new homeowner

1285
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Speaker 11: is when they build that they have to do to

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 11: keep their homes safe. I know, we also have like

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 11: a water system in case of anything or any smoke

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01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 11: or anything like that that will just like kind.

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 12: Of wet the house down and.

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 11: Stuff like that as well. Yeah, I have regulations that

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 11: you have to follow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fiery toronent roofs and stuff like that. But I

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: thought that was sort of mandatory. Already you're out there

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: on earthquake lands all of those things. It's sort of

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: mandatory when building. Well, some of the homes they're older,

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: so so they may have been grandfathered in. But I

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01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: know new construction in and around La County they have

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: to adhere to some of those changes because of the

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Speaker 1: you know, possibility of earthquakes. Twenty seven minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top of the family, Rochelle Jones, I guess the

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: family survived the twenty twenty five Altadena fiers. Mike has

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01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: joined us from Washington, d C. He's got some relatives

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: out where you are. Rochelle grand Rising, Mike, you're hen

1304
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: with Rochelle.

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Speaker 6: Nelson, and I feel for you. All the people that

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 6: lost their homes and infrastructure in California. I can relate

1307
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 6: my foster brother who lives in California. Out in Los Angeles.

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 6: His sister, his wife's sister, lost a house for six

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01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 6: million dollars. Can't get anything, not any for the shorts companies.

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Speaker 7: They don't have that money. In the racket.

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 6: All the politicians and everything that run around trying to

1312
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 6: get re elected, they're not even thinking about SPA. It's

1313
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: just really sad what's going off. I was just I

1314
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 6: would I could send you a picture of my sister

1315
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 6: in law house burnt down. It's sad. I just feel

1316
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 6: really fast for your ard. I'm just so sorry that

1317
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 6: this happened.

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 7: I really am.

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 12: Thank You's terrible.

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01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 11: It really makes you think and wonder what really happened

1321
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 11: that day, you know what I mean, And I'm so

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 11: sorry what happened to your family?

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01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: And Russell, let me ask you. Are you hearing stories

1324
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: a lot like that with them issues collecting from insurance

1325
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: and insurance company. The insurance companies may maybe overburdened, they

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: can't pay of all these folks who lost their homes.

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01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,959
Speaker 1: What's going on with insurance?

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 11: I mean the insurance company so far, a lot of

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 11: people have, you know, kind of closed the door, closed

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 11: the avenue because they don't have the funds that pay

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 11: for that, especially if they're insuring multiple people.

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Speaker 14: In that area.

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Speaker 11: That's like drawing them near to a bankrupt type of thing.

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01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 11: And people already feel like insurance is like one of

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01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 11: the biggest fried scams there is. I'm paying you faithfully,

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01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 11: but then when something does occur that you're supposed to

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 11: cover me from then. Now we have all these stipulations

1338
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 11: and all these little underhanded lines that nobody read about

1339
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 11: or you never sent me about, because sometimes people just

1340
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 11: think like, oh, I'm paying insurance and I'm insured, but

1341
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 11: they don't read the fine print.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some other time, Mike. I thank you

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01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: for your call. Twenty four minutes away from the top family.

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: All right, we got to check the traffic and weather

1345
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: in our different cities. We'll come back. We'll speak with Rochelle.

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01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: You want to drain this discussion with Rochelle Jones. The

1347
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: family survived the twenty twenty five Altadena fires. What are

1348
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Family? Hit us up at eight hundred four

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy sixth and we'll take a

1350
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: phone calls after we check the news. That's next and

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01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: Grand Rising family. Thanks for starting your day with us.

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday morning, the tenth day of March, and

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: our guest is Rochelle Jones. Rochelle is and her family,

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01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: by the way, the survivors of the twenty twenty five

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: Alta Dina fires. You know, we went out there to

1356
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: see the fires and well, now, she says, they're getting

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01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: ready to break ground on her home that was burned

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: to the ground. Before we go back to her, though,

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: let me just remind you come up later this morning,

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with Chairman Fred Hampton. And before we

1361
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: start to the Chairman, we're gonna speak with educated doctor

1362
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: Chique Acua out of Atlanta. He says he's got some

1363
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: techniques that will unlock the brilliance in our black students.

1364
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: And later this week you can hear from a former

1365
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: FBI agent, doctor Tyrone Powers. Also a political block of Brandon.

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: Brandon lives out in the Pasadena are by the way.

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: Also future sick researcher brother Sadeka McCary will be here.

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, please keep your radio

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01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: locked and tight on ten ten WLB or a friend

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Speaker 1: of d mvver on fourteen fifty w L. All Right, Ruschelle,

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01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: now that they've broken ground, and now you have to

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Speaker 1: think about, you know, what's it possibly, when do you

1373
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: think they're going to be finished? How long do you

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take before you guys be able to

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Speaker 1: move back into.

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Speaker 11: Your home, Carl after being up there yesterday. Honestly, the

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01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 11: workers they're working pretty quick.

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Speaker 12: My dad said he gonna.

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Speaker 11: Be out there with the go with so making sure

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01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 11: that they're working every day. Our contract said twelve to

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 11: eighteen months. My dad is saying it needs to be

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 11: nine to ten months. So without rushing them and all

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 11: this and that, I think probably Rustlee is gonna take

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01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 11: us probably about a year.

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Speaker 1: All right. So by this time next year, you're back

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01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: in your own home. What did you miss most about

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: that house?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: And how did you handle? Like, because you know, how's

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,480
Speaker 1: your home special ones? Especially when it comes to holidays.

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, I know folks, black folks they sell. You

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: can't get black folks separate from Christmas, Thanksgiving and Memorial Day?

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: Coming up with the holidays? How'd you handle and how

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: are you handling the holidays these days?

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Speaker 11: It's kind of rough because I was definitely a meetup

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 11: spot for family gatherings, family game night.

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Speaker 12: And different things like that.

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Speaker 11: Lots of memories there, birthday parties for myself, Like I

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,879
Speaker 11: was able to convince my parents to do certain things,

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Speaker 11: and you know, just those things that you just you

1401
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 11: take advantage of. You don't think, I mean not advantage,

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 11: but you take for granted. You always think that it

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 11: was going to be there because the home was beautiful

1404
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,440
Speaker 11: before it burned down, and although they're going to rebuild

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 11: something else just as beautiful, like it's just it's just

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 11: not the same. It's not the same and it never

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01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 11: will be.

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: Did you have anything anything that all from the house

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01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: that was burned down that you still have that you're

1410
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: going to take to the new house.

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01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 11: Yes, my dad was able to grab some some of

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01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 11: the important memorabilia, like them some family pictures and things

1413
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 11: like that, and different obtainments and different things like that

1414
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 11: that family members have accomplished over the years, but very

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 11: small because, like I told you in the beginning, they

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 11: mostly left with just like the clothing on their on

1417
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 11: their backs.

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01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 12: My dad was.

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01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 11: Able to grab one or two things, maybe because I

1420
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 11: yelled that out to him, Grab this, grab that, And honestly,

1421
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 11: I think they thopped in two or three days that

1422
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 11: they will be back home. They didn't think that this

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01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 11: was going to happen.

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01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: So your dad was in the house when when the

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01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: flames started licking the building.

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 11: He wasn't in the house when they were looking in

1427
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 11: a building, but he was definitely there when it was

1428
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 11: coming around the mountain and Carl nobody called him or

1429
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 11: contacted him, notified him to let him know of this,

1430
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 11: and in the past, that's what people usually do. But

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 11: I wasn't there, and I kept on calling him, getting

1432
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 11: on his nerves. He was pissed off because I kept calling,

1433
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 11: and I told him go outside and look over the peak.

1434
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 11: I could see the fire coming around to the area,

1435
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 11: and you.

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01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 12: Need to leave.

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 11: And you know, of course he was irritated with me,

1438
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 11: and well, nobody called and nobody knocked on the door,

1439
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 11: and I told them, people are not coming for you.

1440
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 11: Get out of that house. And eventually he looked over

1441
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 11: the peak and seeing that it was making its way

1442
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 11: towards his home.

1443
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an issue too. If I recalled it,

1444
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: they said that the black Aris did not get information

1445
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: a particular warning out the fire, but but the white

1446
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,839
Speaker 1: eras did. Was that is that still being debated?

1447
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 11: Yes, very very is debated, very much so, because it

1448
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 11: definitely is Trewe wasn't just in our area. It was

1449
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 11: all over and black people, people that look like me

1450
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 11: and you lived in this area. So how come we

1451
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 11: didn't get notified in the same measures as everybody else.

1452
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: In the areas. It's beautiful family, I'm just telling you

1453
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: if you if I have moved that out out of state.

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just it's just gorgeous.

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 6: You know.

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01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: You're like black people own these, you know. And uh

1457
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: uh Mike from DC to his friend lost the six

1458
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: million dollar house because it's all it's all about, uh,

1459
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, location. Location. That's why those houses are cast

1460
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: so much. Because even in LA even in the hood,

1461
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: you got million dollar homes. But again, but these houses

1462
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: it was stately. They would there was something about them.

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01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: They would. They're kind of like many mansions. Some of

1464
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: them were that I saw that there was there were

1465
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: still standing, so I can understand the attachment that people have.

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01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 1: That's why you know, they passed the homeswun from generation

1467
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: to generation. Anyway, Rochelle uh Mark wants to get in

1468
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: on the conversation. He's calling from Baltimore, ten minutes away

1469
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: from the top thing Grand Rising Market.

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Speaker 15: I'm at Rochelle, Yes, good morning. I wanted to know

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01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 15: from a Shawn family, what type of supplies do you

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 15: need of so the Republican communic and if they can,

1473
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:38,520
Speaker 15: if they can make donations to clothing, furniture, bookcases, supplies,

1474
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 15: children's supplies like what is it that you'll are in

1475
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 15: need of the Depublican help out in it's for a donation.

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01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 5: That's it for me.

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 11: Thank you so much for asking. I think definitely we

1478
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 11: can utilize mental health services. We can use financial support

1479
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 11: because a lot of us are now about to be

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01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 11: paying what the insurance won't pay. We can use hygiene products,

1481
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 11: of course, we can use food, we can use everything.

1482
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 11: I mean, even though it's a year later, it's still

1483
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 11: is a terrible loss. We're still in the need of

1484
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 11: all things, all right.

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01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: And Rossell, before you go, just leave the context.

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01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 11: Long way as well too, because we're able to get

1487
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 11: the things that we need as well.

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, before you go, please live in contact information.

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01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 15: Tell us basically what it can send me all these

1490
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 15: materials to you. And that's it for me. Thank you.

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01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 11: Yes, I definitely care.

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01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you hold that until we're finished

1493
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: and I'll let you leave it that we give the

1494
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: contact information at Rochelle. Are you concerned though, because if

1495
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about the fights now with the insurance companies

1496
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: to pay out, obviously you got to have insurance, and

1497
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: you know it's going to be jacked up your new

1498
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: insurance because of the fires. There is that a concern

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Speaker 1: going forward? Is it something you you've you've got to

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: calculate now after the home is built, because then you

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: got to get insurance. And again we know the insurance

1502
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: is going to come for you guys. It's sort of

1503
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: sort of retribution if those who had to pay out,

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: and some of them probably declared bankruptcy because they couldn't

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: pay everybody out. Is that a concern that you calculating

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01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: that in the rebuilding effort as well.

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a big concern. We're wondering, you know, what's next,

1508
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 11: what's new? You know what I mean, it's a lot

1509
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 11: of insurance consolation. It's a lot of people doing price

1510
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 11: gouging on different things, even with the rebuild and stuff

1511
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 11: going on with that. So everything is a concern to

1512
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 11: us because we're kind of like in the unknown and

1513
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 11: it kind of makes you feel.

1514
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 12: Like, Okay, we can't get them this way. Let's let's

1515
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 12: try to.

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 11: Get them this way with the insurance. Like the tired

1517
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 11: didn't work, they're still trying to rebuild. Like you know,

1518
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 11: it's just so many different avenues.

1519
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,839
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this though, because the commercial aspect

1520
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: of that, there's a certain streets they got commercial buildings.

1521
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: Are they back up the businesses back up yet? Are

1522
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: they still rebuilding as well?

1523
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 11: Some of them are, not all of them, but they

1524
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 11: are in the middle of the rebuild as well. A

1525
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 11: lot of the commercial businesses are owned by different people.

1526
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 11: So even though the businesses were there, the tenants, you

1527
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 11: know what I mean. So it's kind of hard for

1528
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 11: the tenants. So the tenants might be ready to open

1529
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 11: the doors, but the owners might be ready to go

1530
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 11: elsewhere or to just leave the.

1531
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 16: Businesses the way they are. So it just kind of depends.

1532
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 16: It's a real chricky thing. It's a catch tourney two.

1533
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 16: But there are businesses that are opening their doors again,

1534
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 16: and everybody is going in and trying to support these businesses.

1535
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 16: Even people from Afar are coming in to you know,

1536
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 16: support these businesses.

1537
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 11: Are maybe just secretly donating a check to keep their

1538
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 11: doors open.

1539
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean just said so. A police station

1540
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: was partially burned down. All this was burnt a Bank

1541
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: of America burnt down. You know, you just just all

1542
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: these commercials and those are you probably know this is

1543
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Rochelle. Have any of those who

1544
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: been rebuilt.

1545
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 11: Yet I think they just reopened the grocery outlet the

1546
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,839
Speaker 11: police station. I rolled by there. I did see some movement.

1547
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 11: I do see the police kind of popping in and

1548
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 11: out again, but very slow, very slow coloring.

1549
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: So what's what's the county is the county of the

1550
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: federal government of helping you guys, the assisting you guys

1551
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: in the rebuild. And also because you mentioned about the

1552
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: shenanigans that some of the insurance companies are doing and

1553
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: to pay out, are they going to come back? Are

1554
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: they going to help you guys up if there's a shortfall,

1555
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: because obviously you know you shouldn't put the bill for

1556
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: something that you didn't cost as usqua. And the second question,

1557
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: some people say to the utility company, caused the fire

1558
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: or or cause the fire to expand how's that? How's

1559
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 1: that coming?

1560
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 11: There are some definitely community people that are helping out.

1561
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 11: But for me, these community people look like uh Seesar,

1562
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 11: the people who have formated groups right at the fire

1563
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 11: started and they've been there since day one. We have

1564
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 11: like Brandon Lamar that's out there in the field every day,

1565
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 11: young man that is doing remarkable things for our community.

1566
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 11: We have tons of churches like Victory Bible.

1567
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 12: Church and.

1568
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 11: At the Center Church and just different churches all around.

1569
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 12: We have like.

1570
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 11: Altadenas Farmer's Market that is providing groceries and produce.

1571
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 12: And things like that.

1572
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 11: And then we have like Karen Barger who.

1573
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 12: Works for the.

1574
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 11: County and stuff like that, and she's helping people out

1575
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 11: in their open parks and doing things like that. But

1576
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 11: I'm not really sure if that really helps people that

1577
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 11: look like us, or you know what rules and stipulations

1578
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 11: it has when you get help from them or anything

1579
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 11: like that.

1580
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 12: But the community and the.

1581
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 11: People in the community that are serving the community, that

1582
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 11: are in the like groups or organizations, are the black

1583
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 11: people that come together and make these things happen, like

1584
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 11: Brotherhood Crusade and things like that. I haven't personally got

1585
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 11: any information from a legislator or anybody from the county.

1586
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 11: Nobody's come or nobody send an email. Nobody has sent

1587
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 11: us any pieces of mail or anything.

1588
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 12: We have not gotten any help like that. But I

1589
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 12: know the people that look.

1590
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 11: Differently have some people have gotten homes donated to them

1591
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 11: and things of that.

1592
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 12: Good nature is just not my story, all right.

1593
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Hold your story right there. We gotta step aside and

1594
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: get caught up in the traffic and weather in that

1595
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: different cities. Family just checking in and listening to us

1596
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: as Rochelle Jones, our family and the survivors of the

1597
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Alta Dina wildfires. You may call we

1598
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: went out there, you know Radio one and some of

1599
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: the other black medias involved with the brother who crusade

1600
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: to help our brothers and sisters who were impacted by

1601
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: that fire. What are your thoughts You want to get

1602
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: in on this conversation. Reach out to us at eight

1603
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and

1604
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: we ticket phone calls after we check the news, traffic

1605
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: and weather. That's next that Grand Rising Family facture. Rolling

1606
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday morning with our guest Rochelle Jones.

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01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Rochelle and the family, the survivors of the twenty twenty

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01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: five Altadena wildfires out in California. We're out there trying

1609
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: to help them get their lives back together. She said

1610
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: they've broken ground on her new home in the place

1611
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: where house she used to be. Coming up, we're going

1612
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: to speak with doctor Chica Akua. He's on deck. Will

1613
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: get to a moment. Charity but Roschall, I gonna ask

1614
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: you about the children, because it was pretty hard on

1615
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: the children because this is all they knew. For some

1616
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: of them that that, you know, the comfort of the

1617
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: home that was and asked for adults as well, but

1618
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: for children that you know, that's that's it's it's kind

1619
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,879
Speaker 1: of special. I saw a school that was was partially

1620
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: burned down as well in the area. What has happened

1621
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: to the children? Did did they do anything special for

1622
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: the children in that era?

1623
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 11: There are always events that are going on in the

1624
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 11: area for children. Children are our future, and they are

1625
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 11: really having a hard time from what I've heard from

1626
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 11: different people, being displace going into school. Even the school

1627
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 11: even though they go under the same name, it's not

1628
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 11: in the same location.

1629
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 12: Their children with disabilities and.

1630
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 11: Things that can't eat, and you know, they might know

1631
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 11: of school because they've been there for so long and

1632
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 11: then now they're just being uprooted and moved around. And

1633
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,799
Speaker 11: for some kids going to school, going to school alone

1634
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 11: as a task, Like a lot of kids just like

1635
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 11: don't even want to go to school, but they have

1636
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 11: to be there because it's something we have to do.

1637
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 11: But now that there's a fire and they don't feel

1638
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 11: comfortable being anywhere else, and a lot of parents are

1639
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 11: complaining about behavioral issues with their children or separation issues

1640
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 11: with their children. Are some of them are just simply afraid.

1641
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 11: They don't know what to expect. They've been uprooted out

1642
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 11: of their homes and their schools, their community activities and

1643
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 11: things like that. There have been replacements. I don't have children,

1644
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 11: so I really I'm not on the front line like that,

1645
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 11: but I do know that there's a lot of things

1646
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,839
Speaker 11: and activities that go on for children in the area.

1647
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: All right, and thank you for sharing that one, Shelby

1648
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: before we let you go, because a Mark and Baltimore,

1649
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to know if there's anyway that because you

1650
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: guys still need help. You lost everything out there with

1651
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: just to close on your back and have to rebuild.

1652
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: Then you're in this temporary It's a situation sort of

1653
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: in suspension before your homes are rebuilt, before you can

1654
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: go back. You don't know whether you get this, so

1655
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: buy this. Don't do that because you're not going to

1656
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: be here long. You don't know how long that's going

1657
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: to last. All those issues, it creates a lot of

1658
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: anxiety and also needs that need to be met. How

1659
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: can folks if they want to help you, how can

1660
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: they help you?

1661
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 11: Rochelle, Okay, I can give out my email address here

1662
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 11: and I am open and willing to talk to anybody

1663
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 11: that wants to help, and also give out information for

1664
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 11: those who have questions about other people.

1665
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 12: That can help as well.

1666
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 11: My email addresses my name Rochelle R O c h

1667
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 11: E l E and the initial J, so it's Rochelle

1668
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 11: J at gmail dot com. One more time, Rochelle J

1669
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 11: thirty at gmail dot com. Rochelle is spelled R O

1670
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 11: c h E l E, the letter J the number

1671
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 11: thirty at gmail dot com.

1672
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Rochelle. Say hi to your dad. I

1673
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: know all the folks in Alta dinner because we were

1674
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: out there, you know. And as I mentioned, the radio

1675
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: one and let it move with the black media to

1676
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: help the black families in Altadena Pasadena are who lost

1677
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 1: their homes and we're working with the brother who CRESAD

1678
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: to do that. So uh, Rochelle again, thank you. Please

1679
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: tell everybody you know continue good fortune and help. You

1680
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: know what you said, they're breaking ground, so let's keep

1681
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: keep us updated how that's working out, because I know

1682
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: I'd be anxious to get back home myself.

1683
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 11: You know, I will, Carl, And I did tell my

1684
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 11: dad that I was going to be talking to you

1685
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 11: today and he said that tell Carl said hello, but

1686
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 11: I can't get up at four clock and abid it.

1687
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 11: So he did send his love. And of course, thanks

1688
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 11: you for helping us amplify our story and not just

1689
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 11: our story, our community and keeping us alive. And I did,

1690
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 11: like others may want us to be, you know, one's

1691
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 11: stories brand news. Everybody wants to hear about it. But

1692
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,440
Speaker 11: it's over a year later. I thank you for continuing

1693
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 11: to talk about it because it's very important.

1694
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very important. That's what our boss, Ms. Caffy.

1695
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: He was, you know, instilled in us. We've got to

1696
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: help these folks out in California. We don't have any

1697
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: radio station in California, but black people need our help.

1698
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: So it says, go out there and figure out what

1699
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: we can do and help them. This we hooked up

1700
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: with the brother who creusaid, tell you Dad, I said, Hi,

1701
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 1: I know, he wants to get back home, said, and

1702
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: he's going home so we can start watching football again,

1703
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, in all the sports games on TV. And

1704
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: it's on home. I know what that feeling, you know,

1705
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 1: so telling me we're rooting for it.

1706
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I appreciate you, Carl, and thank you to everybody

1707
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 11: who's listening as well. And you know I will will

1708
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 11: definitely keep you posted.

1709
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 1: All righty. That's Rochelle Jones family or her families were

1710
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: one of the survivors of the twenty twenty five out

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Speaker 1: to Dina fires out in California. Let's turn our attentionsco

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Speaker 1: South now to Atlanta, Doctor k O coor Grand Rising,

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Speaker 1: Doctor cour Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 7: Peace and blessings, Brother Karl.

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01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 1: Are you today I'm still learning, doctor Coo? Are you

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01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: still at Clark Atlanta University?

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01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 7: Absolutely the one and only.

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 1: Yes, uh uh. And doctor cor Family is an educator

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01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: and he's got these different techniques to to but he

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01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: says it can unlock the brilliance in our black students,

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01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: you know when they come to learn. You know, people

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01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: like to complain to how our children don't know how

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01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: to learn or have problems in the classroom. Well, doctor

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01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Coup has got has got the anecdote for that. But

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01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 1: it also works with the families. And he wrote a

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 1: book called Parent Power Why did you decide to write

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01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: this book a doctor Court.

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01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 7: Well, we wrote this book because it extended out us

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01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 7: some experiences that my wife and I were having several

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01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 7: years ago where we were less and less. We were

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01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 7: feeling more and more power less over the influences that

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 7: we're having an impact on our children. We were trying

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01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 7: to raise our children with strong values, throwing work ethic

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01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 7: and academics and culture and spirituality and different things like that,

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01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 7: but it seemed like the pull of the forces and

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01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 7: factors in society was having an impact on them more

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01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 7: than what we were doing. And so I wanted to

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01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 7: write this book in order to restore power back to

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01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 7: the parents to be able to have an impact on

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01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 7: their children. And what I found in the process is

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01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 7: that a lot of other parents were feeling this sense

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01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 7: of anxiety over the forces and factors that were pulling

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 7: their children away from teaching them values that were counter

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01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 7: to the values that they were trying to instill in

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01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 7: them at home. And so the purpose of parent Power

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01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 7: is to provide the keys to our children's academic, social,

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01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 7: and cultural success.

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Speaker 1: Well, doctor, how much the impact of the internet has

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01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: caused for our children? You know, we're grown up with

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01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: there was no internet, so we had to have these

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01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: conversations with our parents, we had a conversations with our friends,

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01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:31,919
Speaker 1: and we socialized different. Now with the Internet, the internet

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01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: can be the parent, the Internet can be your best friend.

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01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that?

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01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 7: Well, I'm very thankful that I was born at the

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01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 7: time that I was. You know, our children now are

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01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 7: digital natives. But the Internet is just one of many

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01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 7: what we would call weapons of mass distraction. And these

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01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 7: weapons of mass distraction take attention away from the values

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01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:57,879
Speaker 7: that we're trying to instill in our children and places

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01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 7: them in areas that can pull our children away from us.

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 7: And so we as parents have to be very intentional

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01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 7: about controlling the media in our homes and what we

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01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 7: allow our children to consume. And this has to start

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01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 7: at a very early age. If you go to the

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01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 7: if you go to the grocery store, a lot of

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01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 7: times you will see parents with little children and the

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01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 7: parent will put a cell phone in that child's hand

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01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 7: to keep their attention divert from you know, acting up

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01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 7: or getting restless and so forth. But this is not

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01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 7: a good solution. We want to keep our children away

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01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 7: from such things for as long as possible, because again,

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 7: these are weapons of mass defaction that will socialize our

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01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 7: children away from the values that we want them to have.

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Speaker 1: Do you think a cell phone should be restricted for

1776
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 1: our children at an age appropriate level?

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Speaker 7: I definitely think cell phones should be restricted. As a

1778
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 7: matter of fact, those who make cell phones and those

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01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 7: that create social media and different things of that nature,

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01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 7: many of those people are the very ones that have

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01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 7: kept their own children from these things because they recognize

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01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 7: how harmful it is, They recognize how addictive it is.

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01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 7: And if we're going to speak on these things, we

1784
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 7: as parents have to be honest as well that we

1785
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 7: have certain addictions to these things as well to I

1786
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 7: have to work on that with myself, making sure that

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01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 7: I put the screen down from time to time. But

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01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 7: the bottom line is we have to retake control of

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01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 7: our children's socialization. We cannot leave it up to chance,

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01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 7: because if we allow the world to raise our children,

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01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 7: then what we get back is children who have been missocialized.

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01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 7: And there's an African proverb that says, if the children

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01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 7: not properly initiated into the village, they'll burn it down

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01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 7: just to feel the warmth. I'm gonna say that again

1795
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 7: there's an African proverb business. If the children are not

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01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 7: properly initiated into the village, they'll burn it down just

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01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 7: to feel the warmth. Our children are looking for warm

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01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 7: they're looking for connection, but they will become destructive rather

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01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 7: than productive if we don't properly initiate raise them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people say a twelve after top of that. Family.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Chica aku is, I guess. He's an educator at

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01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: clock Atlanta University and he's written a book. A book's

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01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: titled A Parent Power. It's all about educating and taking

1804
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: care of our children. But doctor could people say, it's

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01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: not the phone, it's what's on the phone. How do

1806
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 1: you determine what's good for your child and what's not.

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01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 7: I think it's both the phone and what's on the phone.

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01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 7: What's on the phone is a constant flow of stimulation,

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01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 7: constant messaging, constant stimulation in seconds or milliseconds. This is

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01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 7: what causes our children to have an inability to sit

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01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 7: still for a period of time to focus. And what

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01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 7: we're finding is that more and more children have problems

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01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 7: focusing when you're at school, when they're in class, or

1814
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 7: even when they're at home trying to do homework or

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01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 7: focusing on any tasks that we give them. So it's

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01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,480
Speaker 7: not just what on the phone, it's the phone itself.

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01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 7: But in addition, when we look at what's on it,

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 7: we see a lot of countercultural, anti African, anti human

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01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,600
Speaker 7: images that we have to be very mindful of. We

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01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 7: have to be very careful of what we expose our

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Speaker 7: children to.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen half the top they are doctor. The children today

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01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: are different, you know back in the day children now,

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01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: especially if you as a parent, when it comes to

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01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 1: punishing your child, some people say that you know, a

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: child will say you hit me, I'm gonna call the police,

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01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna you get in trouble when it

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01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: comes to punishment. How do you deal with that? At

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01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, parents, how do you deal with punishing

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01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: your child and not having the cops calling knocking on

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Speaker 1: your door.

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Speaker 7: Well, the first thing before we deal punishments is to

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01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 7: ilish proper routines and proper expectations. When we reinforce proper

1834
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 7: routines and proper expectations, the need to punish begins to diminish.

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01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 7: And so I want to let parents know that these

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01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,520
Speaker 7: routines that we set for our children are so important

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01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 7: because these are opportunities to instill the values that we

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01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 7: wanted them. I'll give you a quick example of what

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 7: I mean, and then we can come back to the point,

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01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,759
Speaker 7: because I do believe there should be consequences for behaviors

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01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 7: that are against the values that we're teaching when we

1842
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 7: talk about routines. From a very early age, my wife

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01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 7: and I would you give our children a bath every evening.

1844
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 7: But that was an opportunity also to tell stories and

1845
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 7: to teach them different things. One of the things that

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01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 7: I would teach my sons is their name, the spelling

1847
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 7: of their name, the meaning of their name. And so

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01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 7: we had this little song, this little rap where I

1849
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 7: would share with my son his name. My name is

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01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 7: Jabaria Kua. I'm want a mission from the most high.

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01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 7: My mission is to walk in rightousness, share the love

1852
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 7: of the Living Christ J. H. B. A. R. I.

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01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 7: My name is Jabari Akuah. And we would do that

1854
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 7: little rap every evening, and this is just something I

1855
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 7: eat us same thing with my youngest son, to Mario.

1856
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 7: My name is a Mari who I want a mission

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01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 7: from those high. My mission is to walk in righteousness,

1858
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 7: shares the love of the Living Christ, Am Aari. My

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01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 7: name is a mari Akua. What was that doing. That's

1860
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 7: teaching them what their name is. That's teaching them the

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01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 7: spelling of their name. That's teaching them a part of

1862
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 7: what our family is about as messengers of the Most High.

1863
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 7: That's teaching them their responsibility. And it's quality time spent

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01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,839
Speaker 7: together without a scream. Right, So that became a routine.

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01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 7: Same thing. I give you another example of taking my

1866
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 7: sons to school. I'll never forget. When my son was

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01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 7: four years old, I can to preschool. We pull up

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01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 7: to the building I park. I'm walking him to the door.

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01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 7: I said, what's your name? He says? I said, Jabari?

1870
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 7: Who He said, what does that mean? He said, Brave

1871
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 7: and mighty, Messenger of the Most High. I said, what

1872
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 7: does a messenger do? He said, bring a message from

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01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 7: the Lord. I give him a hug. I send them

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01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 7: off to school that day. The next day, we drive

1875
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 7: up the park, we get out, we're walking to school.

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01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 7: I said, what's your name? He says, Jabari? I said,

1877
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 7: what does that mean? Brave and mighty Messenger the Most High?

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold, hold, hold, that's the right there. I want

1879
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: to hear the interview, but we got step astif for

1880
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: a few moments seventeen minutes off the top day. I

1881
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,799
Speaker 1: want to come back to us how important the names

1882
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 1: that you give your child? How does that reflect on

1883
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: their behavior? I want to get your thoughts on that family.

1884
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: You two can get in on this conversation. I guess

1885
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: they educated doctor chiku Akua. You don't how to reach

1886
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: us eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six,

1887
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,799
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and grand rising family.

1888
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Thanks are staying with us on this Tuesday morning and

1889
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: this tenth day of March twenty twenty six, our guests,

1890
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: says doctor Chi k Aka, teaches at clock Atlanta University,

1891
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: has got a new book out called Parent Powers, about

1892
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 1: how the parents can take up reclaim the power of

1893
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 1: their children. Before we left, he was telling us about

1894
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 1: his child and the name and have his child repeat

1895
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: the name, and doctor Ku, you know one of the

1896
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: things that brother asked for a question she talks about

1897
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: is and I know thyself. He says. If our people,

1898
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: if especially our young people, knew who they are and

1899
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: where they came from, we wouldn't have any problems out

1900
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: of our young people and I'm seeing with you instilled

1901
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 1: the culture in giving the children your child his name

1902
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: and tell him what it means, and and hav him

1903
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: know that each and every day when he goes to school.

1904
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: So tell us complete that the story that you tell

1905
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 1: us on the second round around, go go and taking

1906
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: him to school.

1907
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 7: Yes, So the reason I would ask him every morning

1908
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 7: what his name was and what his name is is

1909
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 7: He finally asked me he got to tell dad. Why

1910
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 7: did he asking me this every day? And said, because

1911
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 7: I'm sending you out into a world that gangsterises and

1912
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 7: criminalizes young black men, and so I need for you

1913
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 7: to know who you are, who's you are, where you

1914
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 7: come from, and where you're going because you'll have some

1915
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 7: classmates that don't have the same values that you do.

1916
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 7: They're not being raised the same values that you are.

1917
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 7: And you have to be strong enough to resist any

1918
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 7: temptation to go outside of those values. Now, this was

1919
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 7: this was a conversation when he was four years old,

1920
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 7: and it continued obviously, you know as he grew older,

1921
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 7: but four years old was not too young to introduce

1922
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 7: him to those ideas. It's very, very important that we

1923
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Speaker 7: start as early as possible and to reinforce that throughout

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Speaker 7: their childhood.

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Speaker 1: So how important about names?

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Speaker 7: Name tells you your your history, your identity, and your destiny.

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Speaker 7: One more time. A name tells you your history, where

1928
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 7: you come from, your identity, who you are, and your

1929
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Speaker 7: destiny uh the direction that you're headed. It also tells

1930
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 7: you your community, who your people are and are so

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01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 7: important in African condition that there was rituals surrounding the

1932
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Speaker 7: naming of a child. There were naming ceremonies because names

1933
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 7: were seen to be a spiritual, subconscious reminder of your

1934
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 7: purpose for being on the planet. So we cannot take

1935
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Speaker 7: the naming of our children. Granted, this is a very

1936
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 7: very important thing and children should know what their name means.

1937
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Speaker 7: As a former middle school teacher, one of the assignments

1938
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Speaker 7: I used to always give my students every year was

1939
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Speaker 7: to find out to interview their parents, find out what

1940
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 7: their name meant and why their parents named them. That

1941
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 7: a lot of children came back and said, well, my parent,

1942
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 7: there is no meaning for my name. My parent made

1943
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Speaker 7: it up. I said, no problem, great, all names at

1944
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 7: one time were made up. So let's assign a meaning

1945
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 7: to your name. Your name means excellent, your name means outstanding,

1946
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 7: your name means courageous, name means incredible. Well, your name

1947
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 7: means beautiful. But we need to attach an identity to

1948
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 7: the name because this issue of identity development is very important.

1949
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Speaker 7: And in the absence of effective identity development, what our

1950
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,879
Speaker 7: children experience is what we experience as black folks in America,

1951
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 7: and that's cultural identity theft. Cultural identity theft is when

1952
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 7: someone steals your story and replaces it with a narrative

1953
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 7: of negativity and ignorance and criminality.

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Speaker 1: Check that. I hope the folks in the back of

1955
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Speaker 1: the classroom heard that. Twenty four minutes after the top

1956
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Speaker 1: of the Doctor Chiqua, Doctor Kua, you know, one of

1957
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: our listeners in Ghana says, I use the Doctor chik

1958
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Acus program to homeschool my children in Ghana. The teacher

1959
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: was more excited than the children. She never heard of

1960
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Speaker 1: a lot of the history, even though a lot of

1961
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: the history was about the continent. So it would be

1962
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: great to have DOCTS curricul in the African education system

1963
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Speaker 1: where our story is told. It would be easier to

1964
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: bridge the gap between African and Dashboard through the children.

1965
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: And the person goes on to say time to come

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Speaker 1: back to Ghana, DOC.

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Speaker 7: So your response cool, Well, I'll be being Ghana in September,

1968
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 7: and I'm so glad to hear that because to be

1969
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 7: able to have that type of international impact that absolutely

1970
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 7: makes my day. But I'll be back in Ghana in

1971
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Speaker 7: September for the All African Diaspora Education Summit. In addition

1972
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 7: to that, our friends who are listening all over the

1973
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,959
Speaker 7: country and internationally. This Sunday, I'm going to be doing

1974
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Speaker 7: an online webinar on parent Power and anyone can participate.

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01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 7: It's absolutely free. If you're interested. You can just text

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Speaker 7: the word parents to seven seven oh three zero nine

1977
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 7: six six sixty four. Again type the word or text

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01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 7: the word parents to seven seven oh three zero nine

1979
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 7: six six sixty four and our webinar this Sunday will

1980
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Speaker 7: be at four pm East Time, and it's Parent Powered

1981
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Speaker 7: Part one the Keys to your Child's Academic and Social Success.

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01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 7: We're going to be going in and we're going to

1983
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 7: be training. This is something that I'm invited to do

1984
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 7: in communities and in school districts and so forth, but

1985
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 7: I wanted to open it to a wider audience so

1986
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 7: that we can talk about some of these things that

1987
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 7: aren't talked about enough, rather than leaving the raising of

1988
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 7: our children to chance. There's so many challenges that my

1989
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 7: wife and I faced raising our children. And we're educators,

1990
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 7: you know, so we knew the school system and we've

1991
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 7: been through these systems and everything, but we still had

1992
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 7: challenges with it. So we know that parents are struggling

1993
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 7: with these things and want to help out as much

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Speaker 7: as we can.

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Speaker 1: How about grandparents, doc, Can they get in on this too.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely, it's essential that grandparents are in on this

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Speaker 7: to the extent that they can be. We know that

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Speaker 7: the auten quoted but understood African proverb that it takes

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01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 7: a village to raise a child. Well, the wisdom of

2000
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Speaker 7: the elders is oftentimes embodied in grandparents, so children should

2001
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 7: definitely have a relationship with their grandparents. But I will

2002
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 7: caution us there is a difference between an elder and

2003
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 7: an older brother, and Wally Mulburruti helped us to make

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01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 7: this distinction. An elder is someone who has captured the

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01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 7: wisdom of the ancestors and knows how to transmit it

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01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 7: to the youth. But an older is just somebody who

2007
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 7: got old, and unfortunately, there are some older in our

2008
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 7: community who don't know what it means to be an elder.

2009
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 7: So if you are a grandparent, it's important that we

2010
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 7: understand our role in transmitting the best of our culture

2011
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 7: to our grandchildren, stealing those values and reinforcing what the

2012
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Speaker 7: parents are teaching. This is an essential assignment that grandparents have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seven at the top of that, that's good

2014
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Speaker 1: enough from doctor Sharita. Yes, doctor Desida says, the first

2015
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 1: time she went to Ghana, she went with you. So

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Speaker 1: I guess, Oh.

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Speaker 7: My goodness, doctor Sharita. Yes, absolutely, piece and blessing to

2018
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 7: her and her wonderful parents and her children. Yes, their

2019
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 7: family is a blessing to the world. Their father's doctor

2020
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Speaker 7: Paul Goss, who was a nutritionist and mister herbalist, just

2021
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 7: phenomenal and wonderful people. So she's built. If I remember

2022
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 7: a healing retreat in Ghana, so I have to visit there.

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 7: I hope I can get there next time I go.

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Speaker 1: All right, twenty eight After tough, I want to go

2025
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: back to the book, Parent Paler. In the book, what

2026
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: is the family mission statement? What is that?

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's very very important. So if you think about it,

2028
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 7: brother carl Schools, colleges, universities, businesses, corporations all have a

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01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 7: mission statement that when you look into their founding documents,

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 7: they have a mission statement that tells their purpose for

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01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 7: being and that mission statement and that vision statement guides

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01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 7: the direction that they're going. Well, my contention is that

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 7: we need every black family needs a mission statement because

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01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 7: in the absence of a mission statement, Oh you don't

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 7: know what your mission is. Oh great, your mission as

2036
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 7: a family is to be broken. You're not clear about

2037
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 7: what your mission is in this society, then this society

2038
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 7: will assign you a mission. So you don't know what

2039
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 7: your mission is. Fine, your family is meant to be broken.

2040
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 7: Your family's meant to be broke. Your family is meant

2041
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 7: to experience financial crisis. Your family is meant to be

2042
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 7: constantly in crisis. So it's very important that in this

2043
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 7: family mission statement that you state what your family's values are.

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01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 7: And it only needs to be a sentence or too.

2045
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be anything long, but it should

2046
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 7: be something that your children can get to know as well.

2047
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 7: So this is a critical step in helping to guide

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01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 7: the direction of our families. So one of the things

2049
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 7: that we see that we are a family of messengers

2050
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 7: sent to bring about the resurrection of African people and

2051
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 7: the redemption of humanity. So everything that we do in

2052
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 7: your Cool family is centered around that. Again, we are

2053
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 7: family of messengers sent to bring about the resurrection of

2054
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 7: African people and the redemption of humanity. So everything that

2055
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 7: we do is centered around cultivating the knowledge and skills

2056
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 7: to be able to bring about the direction of African

2057
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 7: people and the redemption of humanity. What is your family

2058
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 7: mission statement and why is it what it is? See,

2059
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 7: these are conversations, these are activities that we have to

2060
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 7: be having with our children at home around the dinner table.

2061
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 7: And what we're finding is that, you know, families aren't

2062
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 7: even eating dinner together. That's more than just having a meal.

2063
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 7: That's when you were you know, asking a child about

2064
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 7: their day, where you're sharing different things that you experienced

2065
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 7: in your job. We're talking to them about how to

2066
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 7: be successful, where you're listening to them about challenges that

2067
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 7: they're facing. So all of these things work hand in

2068
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 7: hand with the routine that we were talking about earlier

2069
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 7: and establishing a positive family mission statement.

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01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Twenty nine minutes away from the top of JACTA cool

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01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: Is it too late though? If people listen to now

2072
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: and wow, man, that's a great idea. But you know,

2073
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: my child's sixteen, eighteen or in it's twenties. Is it

2074
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: too late to have those kind of conversations about a

2075
01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: family mission statement.

2076
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 7: No, it's definitely not too late. As a matter of fact,

2077
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 7: if you're hearing this now, I would like to see

2078
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 7: just that this is the perfect time if you've never

2079
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 7: been exposed to this kind of information before. And one thing,

2080
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 7: we have to understand that it may appear that our

2081
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 7: children are not listening, but we have to continue to

2082
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 7: speak daily deposits of positivity into their life, make daily

2083
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 7: deposits of positive words, and speak destiny into them every day,

2084
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 7: even though they may be showing a different type of appearance.

2085
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 7: They may be looking like they're unreceptive to it. But

2086
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 7: what you're doing is planting seeds. And just as if

2087
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 7: you were planning seeds in a garden, you don't plant

2088
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 7: a seed and expect it to come up at the

2089
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 7: very time that you plan it, or even the next day.

2090
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 7: You plant the seed, you cultivate the seed, you water

2091
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 7: the seeds, you pray that God shines light on that

2092
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 7: seed and over time it begins to send a reek's

2093
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 7: back and a shoot up and over time it begins

2094
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 7: to flourish as it takes root. So this is something

2095
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 7: that has to be cultivated every day and you just

2096
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 7: have to get used to your children say, oh, I

2097
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 7: heard you say that before. Ah, we talked about that again.

2098
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 7: That's kind of the nature of being a child in

2099
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 7: many ways. But trust me when I tell you that

2100
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 7: they're listening. The key is to give them something to

2101
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 7: come back to. As the scriptures teach your child up

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01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 7: in the way that he should go, and when he's older,

2103
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 7: he will not depart from it. But you have to

2104
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 7: give them something to come too. And that's in the

2105
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 7: establishment of these values and virtues.

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01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Twenty seven Away from the top, I went doctor Chika

2107
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 1: Akua teaching the clock Atlanta University and he's got a

2108
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: book out Parent Power, Doc. What about you know uncles

2109
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: and aunts. You know, sometimes it's easier for children to

2110
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: speak with their uncle or auntie because you know, they

2111
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: can have conversations with them they can't have with their parents.

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01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Can they step into this role as well?

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01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 7: That is so very important And here again that's why

2114
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 7: it takes village because there's certain things that they may

2115
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 7: feel more comfortable sharing with and or uncle. And this

2116
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 7: is why it's important that parents debrief with the aunts

2117
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 7: and uncles and grandmothers and grandfathers and tell them about

2118
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 7: some of the challenges they might be facing or even

2119
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 7: something they may want them to discuss with their child.

2120
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 7: But yeah, the role of aunts and uncles is so

2121
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 7: very very important. That's factored then heavily in the raising

2122
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 7: of our children.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: I got a tweet for you as well, question for

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01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: you twenty six away from the top. They have two,

2125
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 1: says Grand Rising doctor Akua. The spiritual meaning of our

2126
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: names are tied to our purpose of being in life.

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01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: Being is the highest level existence. When we answer to

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01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: our names, we say to the creator God, I will

2129
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: be what you call me to be. That is why

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01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 1: it's important to know the meaning of our names, because

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01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 1: we must know so what we are answering to when

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Speaker 1: we're answer to what we are called. And it goes

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Speaker 1: on and say, thank you for your clarification on the

2134
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Speaker 1: purpose of educating us and children and on the meaning

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Speaker 1: of names. Your response, I.

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Speaker 7: Say, I say, and thank you so much for that comment,

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Speaker 7: and thank you so much for listening and you know,

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Speaker 7: also Carl in addition to aunts and uncles and grandparents

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Speaker 7: and so forth. It's important for us to understand and

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Speaker 7: ask the question, who's in my tribe? Who's in my tribe?

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Speaker 7: There's certain people that should be a part of your

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Speaker 7: child's life. So there should be someone who is skilled

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Speaker 7: in security or self defense. That could be a martial

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Speaker 7: arts instructor, that could be a law enforcement office, somebody

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02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 7: who used to be in the military. It's important to

2146
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 7: have somebody that's connected with your children that is a counselor.

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Speaker 7: It's important to have somebody in our village that is

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Speaker 7: a spiritual advisor. Could be a minister, a pastor, somebody

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Speaker 7: along those lines. But we have to ask the question

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Speaker 7: who's in my village. There should be someone who is

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02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 7: a business owner, or someone who is adept at managing

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02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 7: and multiplying money, invest in saving, and different things of

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Speaker 7: that nature. All of these are people that you want

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Speaker 7: to expose your child to. Our children should be exposed

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02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 7: to black business owners. Our children should be exposed to

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02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 7: people who live the spiritual life as a minister or

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02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:34,680
Speaker 7: a pastor. Our children should be exposed to people who

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Speaker 7: have expertise in security and personal protection and self defense.

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Speaker 7: So all these types of things are very very important.

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Speaker 7: So parents out there, who's in your village? You get

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Speaker 7: to choose that. Now, there's some people that our children

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02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 7: may come in contact with that we don't have a

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Speaker 7: chance to choose. It just happens randomly. But we have

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Speaker 7: to be intentional about saying who's going to be in

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Speaker 7: my village, who among my friends are going to be

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Speaker 7: in my child's village, who amongst my family are going

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02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 7: to be in their village, and who should not be

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Speaker 7: in the village. There's some family members who should not

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02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 7: be in your village and have interactions with your child.

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Speaker 7: There's some people in the community who should not be

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02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 7: interacting with your child. So we have to be diligent

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02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 7: and we have to be vigilant in creating these things

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Speaker 7: for our children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I thought yess have a side for a

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02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: few moments when we come back, though, because a question

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Speaker 1: for you, what if you the parents don't have that

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Speaker 1: that kind of training that you're talking about. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I've got some an fellow right now, it's in prison.

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Speaker 1: He's listening to us in California. He says he never

2180
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: knew that people worked. He never knew the people had

2181
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 1: there was something like a nine to five job, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that when we get back. Family, you

2183
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 1: two can join our conversation with Doctor Chikaku is an

2184
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 1: educator at o' clock at the Atlanta University's got a

2185
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 1: book called Parent Power. What are your thoughts? Reach out

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Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

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02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: eight seventy six one ticket phone calls next and Grand

2188
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Speaker 1: Rising family. Thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: I guess Doctor t k accouys a teacher at clock

2190
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta University. He's got a new book out called Parent Power,

2191
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 1: and this is what returns the power back to the children.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to Lemon, just to remind you,

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Speaker 1: coming up later this morning, we speak with Chairman Fred Hampton.

2194
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: Chairman Fred just back from Africa, and later this week

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from former FBI agent doctor Tyrone Powers,

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02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: also a political blogger, Brandon will be here and the

2197
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: futuristic researcher brother Sidika Bacari will also join us. So

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Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore, I'm sure you keep that

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02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 1: radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB or friend

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02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,960
Speaker 1: of the dmv air on fourteen fifteen, w L the

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Speaker 1: Doctor cross Cham about this brother that I met, and

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Speaker 1: I met him when he was in prison. Actually because

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02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: it's somehow they figured out the program. Somebody sent him

2204
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: a good and they figured out way how to listen

2205
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: to the program. And we had him come on and

2206
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 1: he was telling us basically, well, he grew up in

2207
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: south central Los Angeles. He didn't know that people worked.

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02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: He didn't they had a nine a so called nine

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Speaker 1: to five, he told me, because everybody in his neighborhood

2210
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 1: they were hustlers or on the county or all kind

2211
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: of selling drugs and whatever. And unfortunately we have some

2212
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: folks like that. How do you reach those people because

2213
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 1: this would be ideal for them to change their lives around.

2214
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: Because I hope that he's listening because he has change

2215
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: of his life around, but he's too late because now

2216
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: he's behind bars. But how for the people who are

2217
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: still in that it will living that life, how do

2218
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: you reach them? At doctor Kua, I think exposure is

2219
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 1: the key.

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Speaker 7: We have to expose children to all the possibilities, and

2221
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 7: we do have increasing numbers of children who have never

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02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 7: been exposed to an adult, you know, waking up and

2223
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 7: going to a job and the routine that's associated with

2224
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 7: that that instills a certain measure of focus and a

2225
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 7: certain measure of discipline. And so we have to make

2226
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Speaker 7: sure that we expose our different to a wide variety

2227
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 7: of profession, to a wide variety of career opportunities. And

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Speaker 7: it's unfortunate what you shared about that, brother, but I

2229
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 7: do that that's that's not uncommon because and what happens

2230
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Speaker 7: to a child not just over one generation, but over

2231
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 7: several generations, where you have people who have never seen

2232
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 7: a person go to a job, come home from a job,

2233
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 7: and keep the responsibilities associated not just with a job,

2234
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 7: but a career. A job is short term, use it

2235
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 7: to you know, build skill and also to pay the

2236
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:37,680
Speaker 7: bills and to save and invest. But a career is

2237
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 7: long term. And many, many of our people in our

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02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 7: community have only been exposed to those that only have

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Speaker 7: a job but never established a career, or who don't

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Speaker 7: have a job at all. So this is why the

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Speaker 7: village concept is so important and where we have to

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02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 7: stand in the gap as much as we can with

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Speaker 7: our children.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen away from the top, as you know, life throw

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02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 1: it's just some curve ball. Sometimes we have these challenges

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02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: that we have to deal with, and depending on how

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02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: we handle these challenges, how camparents do to help children

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02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: when they face these stumbling blocks get over these hurdles?

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Speaker 1: What can they do?

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Speaker 7: One of the things I've come to understand, brother Carl,

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Speaker 7: is that life is a series of problems to be solved,

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02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 7: and no problem comes into our life without a solution. Again,

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02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 7: life is a series of problems to be solved, So

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02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 7: we can't wish that problems won't come. The wish is

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Speaker 7: that you get better at solving them. And that has

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Speaker 7: to even be more than a wish. That has to

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Speaker 7: be a determination that you're going to cultivate the knowledge

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02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 7: and the skills to overcome increasing levels of problems. What

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02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 7: we see sometimes in our families and communities is we

2260
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 7: see some people get stuck at a certain level because

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02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,560
Speaker 7: they weren't able to solve the problem of getting an education.

2262
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 7: They weren't able to solve the problem of getting and

2263
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 7: keeping a job. They weren't able to solve the problem

2264
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 7: of establishing a career. They weren't able to solve the

2265
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 7: problem of managing their money or controlling their sexual appetites.

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Speaker 7: And different things of that nature. So life is a

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Speaker 7: series of problems to be solved, and we have to

2268
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 7: teach our children that when trouble comes, when challenges and

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02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:27,600
Speaker 7: trials come, and they will come. Not a question of if,

2270
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 7: but when and when those challenges come, we have to

2271
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:36,920
Speaker 7: teach them problems solving techniques. One of the first techniques

2272
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Speaker 7: is to understand that this problem comes. As a teacher,

2273
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 7: what lesson am I to learn from them? What knowledge

2274
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 7: and skills do I need to cultivate to solve this?

2275
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 7: But it's about talking through these challenges with our children

2276
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 7: and helping them to be better equipped to face whatever

2277
02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 7: life throws in them. This is why that second principle

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02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 7: of Kwanza kuji Chagaliyah self determination is so very important.

2279
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 7: So we teach our children and our family when challenges

2280
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 7: and trials come, we don't give in.

2281
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Speaker 4: We dig in.

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02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 7: We find a way, or we make a way, which,

2283
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 7: by the way, is the model for Marketlanta University. I'll

2284
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 7: find a way or make one. This is the type

2285
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 7: of self determination that helped us not only to survive,

2286
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 7: but to thrive as a people through some of the

2287
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 7: greatest challenges that the world has ever known. And so

2288
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 7: we can't leave those skills to chance. We have to

2289
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 7: be intentional about cultivating that mindset and that skill set

2290
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 7: within the.

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Speaker 1: Children thirteen away from the tap dot chikakua dot kua.

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Speaker 1: You know, Unfortunately we have a lot of single mothers

2293
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 1: the head of households out there. Can this book help

2294
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: the mothers because some of them are wearing boys, young

2295
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 1: boys who to become a young man. And can they

2296
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: make them young men? Because I've heard horrible stories that,

2297
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, some of these women that are wearing these

2298
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: children and they're afraid of them. The children has absolutely

2299
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 1: no respect cause of the B word stays out. This

2300
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: is one call we got stays out all night long,

2301
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: smoking weed, you know, and it's thirteen years old. Will

2302
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 1: this book help a person like that who's trapped in

2303
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:24,120
Speaker 1: that situation?

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02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 7: It will absolutely help a person like that, But I

2305
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 7: don't want to suggest that this is the end be

2306
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 7: all cure. It took time to get into that situation,

2307
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 7: it will take time to get out. But certainly this

2308
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 7: book will help to give them some insights, some tools,

2309
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 7: tipts and strategies for that. But I want to go

2310
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 7: back to what I said earlier about choosing who's in

2311
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 7: your village, and I want to run through this real quick.

2312
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 7: We need in our village. We need successful professional people, right,

2313
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 7: so people who have an established career your children need

2314
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:03,520
Speaker 7: to see and be around them. They need somebody who

2315
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 7: is a spiritual leader or teacher. They need somebody who

2316
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 7: is a counselor they need a health care professional, whether

2317
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 7: it's a doctor, nurse, or holistic health care practitioner. They

2318
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 7: need to be exposed to a business owner, right, a

2319
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 7: black business owner, a martial artist and or a law

2320
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 7: enforcement officer or somebody who's been in the military who

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02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 7: understands personal protection and self defense. And then they need

2322
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 7: to be exposed to elders. There's an act proverb which

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02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:35,120
Speaker 7: says a village without elders is like a well without water.

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02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 7: So for those parents who are going through it with

2325
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Speaker 7: their children and experiencing some challenges, I've been through my

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02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 7: fare of challenges and raising our sons, and the key

2327
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 7: is to stay focused on what that family mission statement

2328
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,320
Speaker 7: is and all the values that you're trying to instill

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02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 7: in them, and prayerfully they will come back around. But

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02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 7: it's about making sure, as you said, there are a

2331
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 7: lot of single others raising sons. It is important that

2332
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 7: you make sure that you find some mentoring programs in

2333
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 7: the community and if possible, enroll them in martial arts.

2334
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 7: Martial arts has been shown to increase a child's self determination,

2335
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 7: to increase their ability to focus, increase their knowledge and

2336
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:30,880
Speaker 7: ability to respect others and especially their elders, and to

2337
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 7: cultivate the type of self esteem that we want them

2338
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:37,720
Speaker 7: to have in addition to being able to descend themselves.

2339
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 7: But young males, young Black males, that warrior energy, and

2340
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 7: we want them to keep that warrior energy, but it

2341
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 7: must be properly cultivated, and studying the martial arts can

2342
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 7: definitely help with that.

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02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: We have the right teacher, excellent tent away from the

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Speaker 1: top of that's cool year. Because why I say that

2345
02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 1: is because that the brother that I talked about, who

2346
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 1: is in the penitentiary right now, he saw that. You know,

2347
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 1: he never saw it in the flesh, A black lawyer,

2348
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 1: black doctor.

2349
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Speaker 3: All he saw.

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Speaker 1: He thought it was fake because he only saw it

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Speaker 1: in the movies and on TV. And that's what he

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02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 1: told me. He says, he didn't know we have black doctors,

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02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 1: we have black lawyers. He gets to the pen and

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02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,440
Speaker 1: he's got a black doctor and then the doctors and

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02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 1: he's shocked. So again that's why I said, I like

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Speaker 1: what you said about introducing the children to all these

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02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 1: various aspects of these professionals around them, because this brother

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02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 1: absolutely felt that we, you know, and he felt that

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02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 1: we weren't good enough to do anything. He believed that

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Speaker 1: that kind of thought because he didn't see anybody in

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Speaker 1: his community achieving anything. So I appreciate what you just

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Speaker 1: shared with us, But you know, I don't even asking.

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Speaker 7: Your children of those things. They require the parent themselves

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02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 7: to step outside of their comfort zone. The parent may

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02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 7: not know any professional people. Parent may not know the

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Speaker 7: types of people that I was mentioning that they need

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02:12:57,640 --> 02:12:59,840
Speaker 7: to have in their village. But that requires them to

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02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 7: step out and to go outside their comfort zone and

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02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 7: to be in spaces in the community where they're having

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Speaker 7: programs and different things of that nature to make sure

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Speaker 7: that they can be in space where their child can

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02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:15,080
Speaker 7: meet people like that.

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Speaker 1: But how the parents know if that's all they know,

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02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:20,880
Speaker 1: if they don't know the other side, All the things

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02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 1: they can teach the children is what they know, and

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02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 1: they you know, and they're about that life and that's

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02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:28,280
Speaker 1: all they can show their children. They don't know anything else.

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Speaker 1: Is it too much to be asking them? How should

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02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:33,840
Speaker 1: we change the parents for us before trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: correct the children.

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Speaker 7: This is why the concept of each one reach one,

2382
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 7: each one teach one is so important. All we can

2383
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 7: be expected to do is to read those that are

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02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 7: within our sphere of influence, to always put the word out,

2385
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 7: to always have a positive word of encouragement that exposes

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02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:57,440
Speaker 7: people to greater possibilities. And it's important that we not

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02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 7: assume that people don't want to know. A lot of

2388
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:05,520
Speaker 7: times they may not appear receptive, but any time that

2389
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:08,160
Speaker 7: we can, we should always be putting out the word, Hey,

2390
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 7: did you know there's this event going on at the

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02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:13,560
Speaker 7: community center, or there's this event going on at the school,

2392
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 7: or hey, you know over at the church, over at

2393
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 7: the mosque, they're having this speaker, they're having this program

2394
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 7: going on. So always letting people know, regardless of how

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02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:25,920
Speaker 7: they may present themselves. Because one of the things that

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Speaker 7: we found is that whatever parents have or have not

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02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 7: been exposed to, most parents want the best for their child.

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Speaker 7: They oftentimes just don't know how to get it to

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02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:43,320
Speaker 7: their child. So it's important to always realize that most

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02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:46,400
Speaker 7: parents want the best for their child will do what

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02:14:46,600 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 7: they can, and.

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Speaker 1: That is so true. I think I agree with you.

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02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 1: I think most parents want the best for their child. Again,

2404
02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 1: but they've got to figure out what it is that

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02:14:56,360 --> 02:15:01,080
Speaker 1: they want themselves talking about to quit. In the book,

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02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 1: you talk about math and literacy skills and you said

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02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:05,560
Speaker 1: some of that should be taught at home. Can you

2408
02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:07,880
Speaker 1: explain that and how can you teach you to you

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02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 1: yourself don't know the new especially the new math that's

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02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 1: out there today.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, So let me say again, we're doing training this

2412
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Speaker 7: Sunday online or an online webinar. It's going to be

2413
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Speaker 7: at four pm Eastern times, Sunday, March fifteenth. For those

2414
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 7: that are interested in registering friends for this free parent

2415
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 7: Power seminar, just text the word parents to seven three

2416
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 7: zero nine six six sixty four. Again seven seven oh

2417
02:15:38,680 --> 02:15:43,120
Speaker 7: three zero nine six six sixty four. Just text parents

2418
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 7: to that number and we'll send you the registration information.

2419
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:48,440
Speaker 7: It is free, but you do have to register.

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02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:49,760
Speaker 5: So how how do.

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02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 7: Parents teach the things that they themselves were educated about?

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02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:55,960
Speaker 7: So we want parents to teach their children to read,

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02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 7: but they may not be good readers themselves, or we

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02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:02,200
Speaker 7: want them to work on math skills but may not

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Speaker 7: be very good at math themselves. Well, here's what the

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Speaker 7: research literature shows. Not two hours, three hours, fifteen minutes

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02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 7: a night, fifteen minutes a night, if you can sit

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02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:18,600
Speaker 7: down with your child and read, it would be very,

2429
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 7: very helpful, even if not a good reader. We have

2430
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:26,440
Speaker 7: a program called Reading Revolution Online that has aption videos

2431
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:31,520
Speaker 7: that teaches your child about black heroes and heroes ancient

2432
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 7: and modern. And then it has vocabulary development activities, reading

2433
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:41,720
Speaker 7: comprehension activities, grammar and writing activities to go with each

2434
02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 7: of the over one hundred reading selections and caption videos.

2435
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:49,440
Speaker 7: So that's just one example of how we can do

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Speaker 7: that when we talk about math skills and problem solving skills.

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02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 7: When you go to the grocery store and you do

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02:16:56,560 --> 02:17:01,600
Speaker 7: comparison shopping and you notice, hey, I can get let's say,

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02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 7: a jar peanut butter. Let's say, and I'm just gonna

2440
02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 7: make up a number here, I can get six ounces

2441
02:17:09,480 --> 02:17:14,760
Speaker 7: for two ninety nine, but I can get ten ounces

2442
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 7: for three ninety nine. What's the better buy? So competitive

2443
02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:23,440
Speaker 7: shopping when you go shopping with your children have noticed

2444
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:25,600
Speaker 7: the prices, because for one thing, they need to know

2445
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:28,400
Speaker 7: how hard you're working provide for them. They need to

2446
02:17:28,520 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 7: know that what you're providing for them is not free,

2447
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:35,200
Speaker 7: but you're helping them to problem solve. Okay, how many

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02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:38,959
Speaker 7: loads of bread can I get for this amount of money?

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02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:42,879
Speaker 7: It might be good also to say, hey, I'm gonna

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02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:45,680
Speaker 7: let you do the shopping this week. Show me what

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02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:48,320
Speaker 7: you would get if I gave you twenty dollars or

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02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:52,240
Speaker 7: thirty dollars. Right, This is a way of cultivating math

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Speaker 7: and problem solving skills within our children. And what you

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02:17:57,440 --> 02:18:01,960
Speaker 7: will find is that children become much more careful about

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02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,440
Speaker 7: what they would choose and about what they would purchase,

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02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 7: and their math and reasoning and problem solving skills begin

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02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:13,000
Speaker 7: to increase and to improve over time because you have

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Speaker 7: challenged them with these activities. And by the way, the

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02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 7: book Parent Power has all sorts of activities life. It's

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02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:22,160
Speaker 7: in it and their free activities that anybody can do.

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Speaker 7: It's just that we're so busy as parents we might

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02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:29,280
Speaker 7: not oftentimes think about bringing these activities. So the book

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02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:34,560
Speaker 7: Parent Power can be ordered at reading revolution dot org. Again,

2464
02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:37,680
Speaker 7: if you go to reading revolution dot org, click on

2465
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:42,720
Speaker 7: books by doctor Akua. You will see parent Power as

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02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:44,519
Speaker 7: one of the books that's lifted.

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Speaker 1: There right and howld I thought right there at doctor Coole,

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Speaker 1: we got to take a short break here so stations

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02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line. I let you finish

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02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:53,240
Speaker 1: that thought when you get back. And also tell us

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02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 1: when do you have these discussions? Should you let your

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02:18:56,520 --> 02:18:58,520
Speaker 1: children know how much money you make, how much money

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02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:01,200
Speaker 1: you have or all of that kind of stuff. What

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02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 1: age is that appropriate? I'll let you discuss that when

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02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 1: we get back. Family, you two can get in a

2476
02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 1: conversation with doctor Chikakua is an educator based in Atlanta.

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02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:09,920
Speaker 1: All you have to do is reach out to us

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02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:13,320
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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02:19:13,400 --> 02:19:16,119
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls next and grand Rising family,

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02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 1: thanks are staying with us on this Tuesday morning here

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Speaker 1: in March. I guess is doctor Acua, doctor Tiago Akua.

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02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:24,040
Speaker 1: He's an educator out of Atlanta. A moment tail you're

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02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 1: going to speak with Chairman Fred Hampton. But doctor CoA

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02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 1: and doctor Coop, by the way, family just checking has

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Speaker 1: written a book, The Parent Power, The Keys to your

2486
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:34,320
Speaker 1: Child's academic and social success. My question to you, doctor Courk,

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Speaker 1: how soon do you tell the child and what age

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02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:39,320
Speaker 1: do you tell them how much money you make? How

2489
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:41,400
Speaker 1: much is the rent? How much is a light bill?

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02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 1: Is a car note? What age do you have those conversations.

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Speaker 7: I don't think you necessarily have to tell them how

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02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 7: much money you make, but I think it is important

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02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:55,800
Speaker 7: for them to understand how much things cost, and you

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02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,960
Speaker 7: can start that at a relatively early age. Was you know,

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02:19:59,080 --> 02:20:02,640
Speaker 7: when they're elementary school. But I think in addition to

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02:20:02,760 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 7: that that children need to have responsibilities and chores. They

2497
02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:11,960
Speaker 7: have to understand that one of the ways to be

2498
02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:15,480
Speaker 7: successful in life and one of the ways to establish

2499
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:19,920
Speaker 7: a career is by having responsibilities. So things as simple

2500
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 7: as cleaning their own room, cleaning the bathroom, cleaning dishes,

2501
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:29,320
Speaker 7: cleaning a car, or vacuuming or taking out the trash,

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02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:32,080
Speaker 7: all of these are very very important things that can

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02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 7: be started at a young age, as early as six

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02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:39,560
Speaker 7: years old, five years old even, But it's very very

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02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:43,000
Speaker 7: important to instill those skills in them in terms of

2506
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:44,920
Speaker 7: you know how much money you make. I'll you a

2507
02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:48,680
Speaker 7: quick example. One Saturday morning, my son's asked me one

2508
02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:50,800
Speaker 7: asked me if if we could go to the movies.

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02:20:50,879 --> 02:20:53,360
Speaker 7: Another asked me if we go out to eat. Well,

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02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,520
Speaker 7: at that time, back at that time, part of my

2511
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:00,640
Speaker 7: business was selling DVDs of lectures, and I had taught

2512
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 7: them how to burn DVDs for me to produce. And

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02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 7: I said, okay, well, listen, when I get back from

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Speaker 7: running errs, I need for you all to have burned

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02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:12,120
Speaker 7: twenty five of these DVDs. But when I got back

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02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 7: from running errands, the DVDs weren't done. And I said, hey,

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02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:18,080
Speaker 7: you know what happened. Well, each of them are pointing

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02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:19,760
Speaker 7: fingers at the other. Well, he was supposed to do this,

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02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:21,320
Speaker 7: and he was supposed to do that, And say, hey,

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02:21:21,879 --> 02:21:23,560
Speaker 7: you asked me if we could go to the movies,

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02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 7: and you asked me if we go out to eat.

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02:21:26,120 --> 02:21:28,880
Speaker 7: But our ability to do either of those things is

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02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 7: directly connected to me having these DVDs to sell it

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Speaker 7: my lecture. And so I'm going to go and run

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02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:39,280
Speaker 7: some more errors when I come back. I don't want excuses.

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02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:42,840
Speaker 7: I want twenty five DVDs burned. So that's an example

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02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:47,840
Speaker 7: of teaching children cause and effect relationships and helping them

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02:21:47,879 --> 02:21:52,039
Speaker 7: to understand that our livelihood, our ability to eat, our

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02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:55,400
Speaker 7: ability to live in this town home, in this apartment,

2530
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:59,800
Speaker 7: in this house, is directly related to our ability to

2531
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:04,160
Speaker 7: have responsibility and to have a work ethic and to

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02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 7: follow through on those responsibilities. Rather than telling them how

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02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 7: much money you make, you can definitely tell them how

2534
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:14,280
Speaker 7: much things cost and how many hours you have to

2535
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:18,080
Speaker 7: work in order to get these things for your family.

2536
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 7: But it's about instilling that sense of responsibility and helping

2537
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:25,760
Speaker 7: our children to know that everybody has to play a part,

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02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:30,000
Speaker 7: and by the way, their part. School is their job.

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02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:34,120
Speaker 7: As Professor Alfred coach Pole tells us, school is your job,

2540
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:36,880
Speaker 7: So make sure that you're doing what you're supposed to

2541
02:22:36,920 --> 02:22:39,560
Speaker 7: be doing there. If I go to my job or

2542
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:42,040
Speaker 7: to my business to earn for the family.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. We got to get coach foul back on the radio.

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02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:46,959
Speaker 1: I thank you for mentioned in his name.

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02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 3: Doctor.

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02:22:47,879 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: But doctor Cook, you have a webinar that's going to

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02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:52,800
Speaker 1: take place. Yeah, he's a good brother. You have a

2548
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:54,800
Speaker 1: webinar that's taking place this weekend. Can you give us

2549
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:56,280
Speaker 1: the information on that before we let you go?

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02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:00,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, So the webinar is this day at four pm

2551
02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:04,680
Speaker 7: Eastern Standard time and we're going to be talking about

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02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:08,040
Speaker 7: parent Power, Part one, the Keys to your Child's academic, cultural,

2553
02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 7: and social success. For those that are interesting, it's interested.

2554
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:14,560
Speaker 7: It's absolutely free, but you do need to register, and

2555
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:18,240
Speaker 7: you can do so by texting parents the word parents

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02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:23,240
Speaker 7: to seven seven oh three zero nine six six sixty four. Again,

2557
02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:26,480
Speaker 7: text the word parents to seven seven oh three zero

2558
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:30,440
Speaker 7: nine six six sixty four and you will be sent

2559
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:35,280
Speaker 7: the link in response to be able to register the webinar.

2560
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,440
Speaker 7: For those that want to purchase the book Parent Power,

2561
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:42,160
Speaker 7: you can go to reading revolution dot org. Again, that's

2562
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Speaker 7: reading revolution dot org. Click on in the menu, click

2563
02:23:46,959 --> 02:23:50,040
Speaker 7: on books by doctor Akua, and you can roll down

2564
02:23:50,680 --> 02:23:53,039
Speaker 7: through the different books that we have and then click

2565
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:56,440
Speaker 7: on parent Power. We have we want to support our

2566
02:23:56,520 --> 02:23:59,120
Speaker 7: parents in the best way possible and I know how

2567
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:02,600
Speaker 7: challenging it and be, and it can even be discouraging

2568
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:05,400
Speaker 7: at times. But the purpose of the book Parent Power

2569
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:07,640
Speaker 7: and the webinar that we're doing is to put the

2570
02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 7: power back into the hands of the parents and to

2571
02:24:10,480 --> 02:24:13,280
Speaker 7: let them know that we are the ones that are

2572
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:17,240
Speaker 7: the primary influence on our children and we have, but

2573
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 7: we have to reclaim that power and to put it

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Speaker 7: into practice.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Thank you, Thank you doctor Aka, thank you for

2576
02:24:25,000 --> 02:24:26,400
Speaker 1: what you do for our children as well.

2577
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:30,480
Speaker 7: Thank you, brother Carl. Piece of blessings to you and

2578
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:31,560
Speaker 7: all of you listeners.

2579
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Speaker 1: All right, family, that's doctor Chicacour from Clark Atlanta University.

2580
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:37,920
Speaker 1: Join us now, let's switch over to let's go to

2581
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Speaker 1: Chicago from Atlanta to Chairman Fred Hampton, Chairman, Grand Rising, brother,

2582
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:45,320
Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, Grand Rise, and.

2583
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:48,199
Speaker 7: Right, black cats are good to be black, which was always.

2584
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:52,080
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, and shout out first to you mom, because

2585
02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:53,959
Speaker 1: holding it down while you were gone, you were out

2586
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:57,520
Speaker 1: there on the continent. Tell us about that trip.

2587
02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:02,160
Speaker 6: Well, let me do say. I'm still I don't I

2588
02:25:02,200 --> 02:25:07,039
Speaker 6: don't think. I don't think I've actually landed uh landed

2589
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:10,480
Speaker 6: back at uh this uh this past March seven with

2590
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:14,680
Speaker 6: the mark three months. This was, I commented, I commented

2591
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:18,280
Speaker 6: as opposed to vacation, I was on the delegation was

2592
02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:20,000
Speaker 6: able to get a lot of work done. As the

2593
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:22,320
Speaker 6: old accident goes, when you love what you do, you

2594
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:24,720
Speaker 6: never work with Dan in your life. It was, you know,

2595
02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 6: phenomenally experience monst must the number must, the myriad of

2596
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:32,800
Speaker 6: things that were able to accomplish. I'm still on cloud

2597
02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:38,680
Speaker 6: million about this, Uh, Jane, what would you except January

2598
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:44,200
Speaker 6: twenty fourth unveiling of the Embassy, the Black Pants, the

2599
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:49,680
Speaker 6: Black Panther Party Club Embassy uh and Ghanam And that's uh,

2600
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:52,440
Speaker 6: it's a significant for number for so many reasons. But

2601
02:25:52,520 --> 02:25:54,600
Speaker 6: I just want to you know, point out what uh

2602
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:56,600
Speaker 6: we are coming up embarking on that it will be

2603
02:25:56,680 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 6: the sixtieth year anniversary of Black Panther Parties out to

2604
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:02,760
Speaker 6: a fifth things for the you know kind of you

2605
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:05,039
Speaker 6: know they say with politics similar to real estate, time

2606
02:26:05,120 --> 02:26:07,680
Speaker 6: and location, all this all that's significant. So they are

2607
02:26:07,720 --> 02:26:10,040
Speaker 6: to do this and really you know, correlate that to

2608
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 6: the legacy which the Black Panther Party uh had in

2609
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:17,680
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy, the Black Panther Party, our predeces, our predecessors,

2610
02:26:17,720 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 6: they had implemented Ambassy in Algiers, Africa seventy and that

2611
02:26:23,200 --> 02:26:26,320
Speaker 6: that's that's a statement, you know, Uh, that serves so

2612
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:33,720
Speaker 6: many purposes, you know, one that they uh contradicted contrary

2613
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:35,960
Speaker 6: to not you know, some some people's impression of the

2614
02:26:36,040 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 6: narrative that people think about the Black Panther Party. In fact,

2615
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 6: some people, like in different in Chicago, they were they

2616
02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:44,920
Speaker 6: they they are shocked about not only to hear about

2617
02:26:44,920 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 6: the national organized, but the international organized that the Black

2618
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 6: the woral impact that the Black Panther Party had and

2619
02:26:51,879 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 6: so for at this time and to be able to

2620
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:57,560
Speaker 6: do this, it was it was a phenomenal, phenomenal feat.

2621
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:01,120
Speaker 6: I was able to also to touch down with some

2622
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:06,320
Speaker 6: some some comrades and other parts of Africa. The phenomenal,

2623
02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 6: the phenomenal O'Neills of Pete and Charles O'Neill. The work

2624
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:12,600
Speaker 6: that continues, work they're doing the Tanzania as well as

2625
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:14,240
Speaker 6: just you know, just caught you're saying, touch down on

2626
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:17,640
Speaker 6: our people and you know, really blast that narrative. I helped,

2627
02:27:17,840 --> 02:27:20,880
Speaker 6: excuse me, assist with blast and that narrative incorrect native

2628
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:23,120
Speaker 6: out the water, you know, in regards to like you know,

2629
02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:25,080
Speaker 6: steal to this day in twenty twenty six.

2630
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:25,480
Speaker 4: Some of the.

2631
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 6: Misconceptions, many misconceptions that you know that that this that

2632
02:27:31,480 --> 02:27:35,840
Speaker 6: uh the colonialists have you know too after the propaganda

2633
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:39,440
Speaker 6: through the U, the revisionance to history in regards to

2634
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 6: you know, UH Africa and and UH those and those

2635
02:27:42,480 --> 02:27:44,640
Speaker 6: who us to diaspora, so those those you know, it

2636
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:47,080
Speaker 6: it was a phenomenal moved, phenomenal move and I just

2637
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 6: want to And we were able to take a number

2638
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:50,280
Speaker 6: of different campaigns.

2639
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:50,760
Speaker 5: On and UH.

2640
02:27:50,879 --> 02:27:53,200
Speaker 6: And I always I say, and I said before, I

2641
02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:59,280
Speaker 6: don't never I never attempt to romanticize any any any situation.

2642
02:27:59,440 --> 02:28:01,280
Speaker 6: What you know, I'm saying, any industry, whether we're talking

2643
02:28:01,280 --> 02:28:04,320
Speaker 6: about our people, whether we're talking about the Black Panther Party,

2644
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:06,760
Speaker 6: wasn't too much even Africa, so were able to sit

2645
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:09,960
Speaker 6: down have some real deal, authentic dialogue, discussed some contradictions

2646
02:28:09,959 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 6: about you know what I'm saying in regards to just

2647
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 6: even uh not being in conversations that were not confined

2648
02:28:15,879 --> 02:28:18,840
Speaker 6: to colonial borders. In other words, you know that we

2649
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:20,960
Speaker 6: were just having discussions in Ghana about what's going on

2650
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 6: in Kino Foxo and other positive Africa, you know. And

2651
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:27,640
Speaker 6: so I'm I'm inspired. I was in for my own

2652
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:31,360
Speaker 6: subjective reasons, as I would say, it was will as

2653
02:28:31,400 --> 02:28:34,879
Speaker 6: we all needed. You know, I've always said the battle

2654
02:28:34,920 --> 02:28:38,240
Speaker 6: fatigue is for real. And the timing that this happened,

2655
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:39,680
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, And even the time left

2656
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:41,440
Speaker 6: that I was, the duration of times that I was there,

2657
02:28:41,959 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 6: it was not planned for that due to some circumstances,

2658
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:47,560
Speaker 6: some contradictions that we're still.

2659
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:48,560
Speaker 17: Dealing with, you know.

2660
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:51,720
Speaker 6: So I spoke briefly about, you know, some contradictions, the courage,

2661
02:28:51,720 --> 02:28:55,600
Speaker 6: the similar third the day before the fifty sixth year

2662
02:28:56,200 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 6: acknowledgment of the Assassinician Chamber of Fred Defense Captain Mark Clark,

2663
02:29:00,440 --> 02:29:04,120
Speaker 6: that was come from my life. You here, this this

2664
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:08,160
Speaker 6: December third, twenty twenty five, and one thing led to another.

2665
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:11,920
Speaker 6: But just even being there, I had been comment I

2666
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:14,920
Speaker 6: was coming to Pam Africa minister confetation for the Move Family.

2667
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:17,800
Speaker 6: I said, you know, either being here, I said, I don't.

2668
02:29:17,959 --> 02:29:19,680
Speaker 6: I can't recall the last time that I even looked,

2669
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:22,560
Speaker 6: that I rested, that I dreamt, I even was. They

2670
02:29:22,760 --> 02:29:26,080
Speaker 6: laid down there and the dreaming and just the rest

2671
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:26,880
Speaker 6: of recharged.

2672
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:28,040
Speaker 4: And so it was.

2673
02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:30,160
Speaker 5: It was, it was, it was needed, it was needed.

2674
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:32,520
Speaker 1: But let me jump in and ask you this Chairman

2675
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:34,400
Speaker 1: of the twelve after the top of the do they

2676
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:37,480
Speaker 1: know the Ganaians? Do they know a lot about the

2677
02:29:37,520 --> 02:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party and the Black Panther Clubs? Do they

2678
02:29:40,040 --> 02:29:41,039
Speaker 1: know about our history?

2679
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:47,320
Speaker 6: You know, I was in UH A lot of my time,

2680
02:29:47,400 --> 02:29:50,320
Speaker 6: A lot of my time was spent in Tima and Tima.

2681
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:53,360
Speaker 6: In fact, my birth we did we celebrated my birth

2682
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:55,360
Speaker 6: I had the opportunity to celebrate my birthday. We would

2683
02:29:55,360 --> 02:30:01,599
Speaker 6: call the annual People's Ball. And you have, you know, contradictions,

2684
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:05,000
Speaker 6: you know, saying throughout Africa, class contradictions, uh something you

2685
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:06,760
Speaker 6: have you know here in the States. But I will

2686
02:30:07,640 --> 02:30:10,119
Speaker 6: I'll say this though, that they're peerless. They have done

2687
02:30:10,120 --> 02:30:11,959
Speaker 6: a job, you want to say, on both on all

2688
02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:14,400
Speaker 6: sides of the world, you know, with the propaganda that

2689
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 6: you know, you know, everything is everything is great and

2690
02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:20,720
Speaker 6: gravy or you know what I'm saying, uh here uh

2691
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:25,880
Speaker 6: in in Americas. But this uh, it was a small

2692
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 6: period of time tomorrow were heightened, the contradictions tomorrow and

2693
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:32,880
Speaker 6: they were there was pockets of information that was that

2694
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:35,440
Speaker 6: was out there because you know, because quite quite some times,

2695
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:39,000
Speaker 6: you know, whether we're talking about the question of finance, resources,

2696
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:41,640
Speaker 6: the ability to travel. A lot of times the masters

2697
02:30:41,680 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 6: have not been able to connect with the masses. But

2698
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,720
Speaker 6: you know, we broke a lot of those boundaries, you know,

2699
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:48,320
Speaker 6: so we had in fact, I think I think I

2700
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:52,879
Speaker 6: sent you this video clip where we had the community

2701
02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:57,040
Speaker 6: uh do a drop for uh President and political prisoners

2702
02:30:57,080 --> 02:31:01,800
Speaker 6: including the Mumia Jamal and so many others, and so

2703
02:31:01,959 --> 02:31:03,000
Speaker 6: it was the ground.

2704
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:05,080
Speaker 7: The ground was right, you.

2705
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:08,520
Speaker 6: Know for organizer and UH had those types of discussions

2706
02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:11,119
Speaker 6: and we made leaps and bounds. So they asked your question.

2707
02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:13,600
Speaker 6: There was a basic understanding of it, but we we

2708
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:17,440
Speaker 6: were able to really you know, sin dowt uh Uh

2709
02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:23,000
Speaker 6: I was trying to use I guess cultural exchanges regardless,

2710
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:25,520
Speaker 6: you know, the dynamics about there was the doctor Quame

2711
02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:28,440
Speaker 6: and chrome because in fact, some I recall a case

2712
02:31:28,520 --> 02:31:32,080
Speaker 6: when brothers asking me about something about Ghana and they

2713
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:35,200
Speaker 6: were and they were shocked. Somebody he was shocked my

2714
02:31:35,320 --> 02:31:37,400
Speaker 6: knowledge about certain things about you know, saying about the homeland.

2715
02:31:37,400 --> 02:31:40,760
Speaker 6: You know, I'm saying about the homeland and there was

2716
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:44,959
Speaker 6: I and I was shocked on some people's uh knowledge

2717
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:47,400
Speaker 6: and certain information about you. I'm saying about our present

2718
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:48,200
Speaker 6: day struggles here.

2719
02:31:49,800 --> 02:31:52,560
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Fourteen after the top of they are what

2720
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:54,840
Speaker 1: about the ex pats. A lot of ex patsy you

2721
02:31:54,920 --> 02:31:56,920
Speaker 1: know in Ghana and a lot of them listen to

2722
02:31:57,040 --> 02:31:59,240
Speaker 1: us every morning. Many of them live in the prom

2723
02:31:59,320 --> 02:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Prom area. Sure you're familiar with that. Did did you

2724
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:04,840
Speaker 1: hook up with with those ex pats when you're in Ghana.

2725
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:10,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, the last time all I feel so bad. Can

2726
02:32:10,840 --> 02:32:14,000
Speaker 6: we with his sister's name? We we we we couldn't we.

2727
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:16,400
Speaker 6: We were posed to connect up to go to pop

2728
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:19,600
Speaker 6: Prom and I ended up I ended up in Tanzania

2729
02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:21,520
Speaker 6: and I didn't make it uh to parp problem. But

2730
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,120
Speaker 6: I definitely go back with Yes, there's a lot of

2731
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:26,120
Speaker 6: the fortun the ex pats that over there and I

2732
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:29,240
Speaker 6: have the opportunity to connect the last time I was there,

2733
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,280
Speaker 6: but this time I was unfortunately get to make a

2734
02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:33,440
Speaker 6: touch down directly.

2735
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've got it's not where they've got the

2736
02:32:36,280 --> 02:32:39,040
Speaker 1: wall of heroes, and your dad's one of those, you know,

2737
02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:43,080
Speaker 1: So when people are surprised when when they when they

2738
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:45,039
Speaker 1: go there and they see that's that's your dad, that's

2739
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:46,760
Speaker 1: your you know, on the on the well here s

2740
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:49,240
Speaker 1: and tell some of the other folks who I know,

2741
02:32:49,720 --> 02:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Govey, is that I'm there? Who are some of

2742
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 1: the other people that.

2743
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:57,920
Speaker 17: Are on that wall, Marcus Garvey and Uncle May Matholman,

2744
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 17: Sanny lou Hammer. I'm ironically when I'm not when I'm

2745
02:33:02,920 --> 02:33:04,280
Speaker 17: telling you this, I'm looking at uh.

2746
02:33:06,320 --> 02:33:07,320
Speaker 7: Uh not a painting.

2747
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:09,880
Speaker 6: But I guess, I guess I can't take cloth uh

2748
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:12,200
Speaker 6: piece of art of image of chamber. Fraid that was

2749
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:16,200
Speaker 6: donated from there, you know, uh from Ghana that was

2750
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:18,360
Speaker 6: sending it to the Hapton House. I'm ironic to them

2751
02:33:18,440 --> 02:33:22,199
Speaker 6: just looking at it right now. But actually the members

2752
02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:26,520
Speaker 6: of Black Panther Party there, So it's uh what else

2753
02:33:27,160 --> 02:33:35,280
Speaker 6: I need? Uh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, doctor my

2754
02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:39,080
Speaker 6: doctor King is there. Yes, no, but so so yeah,

2755
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,880
Speaker 6: So the Prince mister Lowton shout out today especially a

2756
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,440
Speaker 6: proper problem because again I want to get impression that

2757
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:46,520
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I just can't you know,

2758
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:49,119
Speaker 6: I'm the first I'm breaking you know what I'm saying

2759
02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:53,720
Speaker 6: broad ground. There's there's there's a history, you know, you

2760
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:54,960
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. You know our people, you know,

2761
02:33:55,280 --> 02:33:59,320
Speaker 6: people touching back down, but uh making that making that

2762
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:01,280
Speaker 6: court that can connection. So I want to get the

2763
02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:05,119
Speaker 6: wrong impression. But however, again we know that we're making

2764
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:08,720
Speaker 6: these moves. This this system colonial list is continuously you

2765
02:34:08,760 --> 02:34:11,880
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, continuously put on this propaganda continues

2766
02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:16,320
Speaker 6: to disconnect us. So we you know, we have to

2767
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:18,880
Speaker 6: be up continuously up in the Andy, So I guess,

2768
02:34:18,879 --> 02:34:21,199
Speaker 6: I guess I want to retouch back on your initial question,

2769
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:23,959
Speaker 6: you know, saying so like I said, that was that's

2770
02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:26,520
Speaker 6: a familiarity because we it's not. I went to I'm

2771
02:34:26,520 --> 02:34:28,600
Speaker 6: not the first and to go back to the homeland

2772
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:30,760
Speaker 6: and I'm definitely I'm definitely not gonna be the last.

2773
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:32,840
Speaker 1: Right and hold I thought right there, Chairman, we gotta

2774
02:34:32,840 --> 02:34:34,840
Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. Seventeen minutes after the

2775
02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:37,199
Speaker 1: top there and we come back. Alonso wants to speak

2776
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:40,600
Speaker 1: to you. Alonzo's from the Angola Underground eight hundred four

2777
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:43,240
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. You two can

2778
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 1: join this conversation with Chairman Fred Hampton. Reach out to

2779
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:48,640
Speaker 1: us and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand

2780
02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this Tuesday

2781
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 1: morning here with our guests that Chairman Fred Hampton, the

2782
02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:56,320
Speaker 1: Chairman just back from Africa, stopped in Ghana and Tanzania.

2783
02:34:56,640 --> 02:34:58,480
Speaker 1: You want to get in on this conversation, reach out

2784
02:34:58,520 --> 02:35:01,039
Speaker 1: to us. Eight hundred four or five year seventy eight

2785
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:03,760
Speaker 1: seventy six. I mentioned Chairman before I left for the break.

2786
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,720
Speaker 1: Alonzo's collinition from the Angola Underground grand rising Alonzo and

2787
02:35:07,760 --> 02:35:09,360
Speaker 1: you're on with Chairman Fred Hampton.

2788
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:15,120
Speaker 18: Oh man, what's up with Chairman Fred? I said, we

2789
02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:17,880
Speaker 18: met several times before. I said, I just see you

2790
02:35:18,320 --> 02:35:20,320
Speaker 18: lit up today. I just wanted to time in man.

2791
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 18: We showed appreciate you being able to go over there

2792
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:26,920
Speaker 18: with our anstals or whatnot. I just want to ask

2793
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:29,080
Speaker 18: how I know it was a good I know it

2794
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:31,040
Speaker 18: was a good time you had over there or not?

2795
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 18: Did did you did you get a chance to talk

2796
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:37,560
Speaker 18: for any of the diplomat about the Louisiana non unanimous

2797
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:41,320
Speaker 18: grand jury jury scheme as it relates to the private

2798
02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:44,960
Speaker 18: individuals affair trial in Louisiana? Which did you get an

2799
02:35:44,959 --> 02:35:47,240
Speaker 18: opportunity because I know that your knowledgeable of.

2800
02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:54,959
Speaker 6: It, Well, I didn't get bet and some other discussions

2801
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:57,240
Speaker 6: of our political prisoners in general. We will so were

2802
02:35:57,240 --> 02:35:59,320
Speaker 6: able to I guess we did not in depth. We

2803
02:35:59,360 --> 02:36:01,600
Speaker 6: will say with the with the grant, with the unveiling

2804
02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:05,440
Speaker 6: of the embassies I mentioned earlier this pass on January

2805
02:36:05,480 --> 02:36:11,720
Speaker 6: twenty fourth, I briefly touched on that a meala visious

2806
02:36:11,840 --> 02:36:15,200
Speaker 6: a particular that a political prisoners. Uh, you know, we

2807
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:18,960
Speaker 6: just want to I guess, uh break the ice on

2808
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:21,040
Speaker 6: a lot a lot of subject matter, but fars me

2809
02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:23,960
Speaker 6: particular meetings on a lot of pacifics. I guess I

2810
02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:26,400
Speaker 6: was I was we moving, We was moving, just you

2811
02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:29,120
Speaker 6: saying make breaking ice making connections. So a lot of

2812
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:30,480
Speaker 6: a lot of pacificitis were they were going to a

2813
02:36:30,520 --> 02:36:33,039
Speaker 6: lot of different discussions. But we did make some good,

2814
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:37,760
Speaker 6: good connections. Open the door for some future dialogue. But

2815
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:41,120
Speaker 6: that's that's terrifical not and I just probably give a

2816
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:45,480
Speaker 6: brief discussion on for the audience who are not Louisiana

2817
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:48,600
Speaker 6: is the only state outside of Auguen that has what

2818
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:51,560
Speaker 6: they call a gym pro duri scheme, but only take

2819
02:36:52,160 --> 02:36:55,240
Speaker 6: ten people to convict us. This this practice was the

2820
02:36:55,320 --> 02:36:59,520
Speaker 6: player and unconstitutional in two thy twenty by the United

2821
02:36:59,560 --> 02:37:03,360
Speaker 6: States Free Court. Part of that, the State of Louisiana

2822
02:37:03,959 --> 02:37:11,160
Speaker 6: accepted it accepted I would say, a reprimendum, and disallowed

2823
02:37:11,200 --> 02:37:14,360
Speaker 6: the practice. However, we still have thousands of brothers are

2824
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:18,120
Speaker 6: still incarcerated under this Jim Crow Jurse scheme that was

2825
02:37:18,200 --> 02:37:24,039
Speaker 6: developed in nineteen In eighteen ninety eight, Louisiana Constitutional Convention

2826
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:30,160
Speaker 6: immediately following the masturpation of slaves under the Thirteenth Amendment

2827
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:33,000
Speaker 6: with all the tender purposes. We still have slaves in

2828
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:37,120
Speaker 6: this country, and it's just about getting a public more

2829
02:37:37,160 --> 02:37:40,240
Speaker 6: aware of it. We got the rapper of Corey Miller.

2830
02:37:40,280 --> 02:37:43,080
Speaker 6: I don't call him to murder, but a rapper, Corey Miller,

2831
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:46,560
Speaker 6: he's one of the ones that falls under it. And

2832
02:37:46,879 --> 02:37:50,400
Speaker 6: it's just ridiculous that this days in the age and time,

2833
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:52,760
Speaker 6: were still are operating under Jim throw off.

2834
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:56,360
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Alonzo, thanks for sharing that with that

2835
02:37:56,480 --> 02:38:01,240
Speaker 1: with us, But Fred go ahead, it was I.

2836
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:03,640
Speaker 6: Was along with to the call. Also this uh, this

2837
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:08,560
Speaker 6: June twenty first, we have the annual club caravan. We'll

2838
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:10,920
Speaker 6: be heading down. We'll be head down to Hainesville, Louisiana.

2839
02:38:10,959 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 6: All so we do that every uh for Father's Day

2840
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:16,080
Speaker 6: for the chairman Fred's grave site. So I know I'll

2841
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:18,440
Speaker 6: I would definitely be in that area. Then I might be.

2842
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:21,320
Speaker 6: I might be there this I'll come in March twentieth,

2843
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:23,720
Speaker 6: this twentieth, this month, I'm not sure, but definitely June

2844
02:38:23,800 --> 02:38:26,000
Speaker 6: twenty So, so if any representatives would like to touch

2845
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:28,560
Speaker 6: down with us around that the June twenty first, when

2846
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:31,760
Speaker 6: we do the Black Panther Party Club Caravan down to

2847
02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:33,080
Speaker 6: the grave site of Chairman Fred.

2848
02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:34,880
Speaker 7: We can definitely see the time.

2849
02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, a question I was gonna ask you, Chairman, go

2850
02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:40,920
Speaker 1: ahead on a lon Joe finish your question.

2851
02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:45,039
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely be there when

2852
02:38:45,080 --> 02:38:47,480
Speaker 18: not h we work with uh what with several of

2853
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:52,240
Speaker 18: the susters uh and uh Fred uh uh Fred Hampton

2854
02:38:52,400 --> 02:38:56,160
Speaker 18: Uh yeah, phillious or whatnot. We we got a Newton,

2855
02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:59,200
Speaker 18: we got some of the Brothers news driving als there

2856
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:03,160
Speaker 18: and we worked with several other individuals or whatnot. So

2857
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:05,000
Speaker 18: we definitely are being on the ground.

2858
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:09,560
Speaker 1: So you're right, Thanks alonto U and Chairman. My question

2859
02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 1: to twenty four after the top. They are the brothers

2860
02:39:12,400 --> 02:39:14,640
Speaker 1: on the content. They understand the struggles that we go

2861
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:19,200
Speaker 1: through because you know, do they hear about why Black

2862
02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Panther Party was needed and what you guys did or

2863
02:39:23,560 --> 02:39:25,760
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if that kind of news of

2864
02:39:25,840 --> 02:39:29,360
Speaker 1: that information gets out, you know, beyond the ex pats,

2865
02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:33,000
Speaker 1: but they say the Ganands and the Tanzanians or are

2866
02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:36,000
Speaker 1: you able to share these stores or or they're familiar

2867
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:36,680
Speaker 1: with these stories.

2868
02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:43,879
Speaker 7: Great question, great question. I think I think I spoke

2869
02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:44,240
Speaker 7: about this.

2870
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:45,760
Speaker 5: I gave it.

2871
02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:49,400
Speaker 6: I gave this not analogy, but talked about bolt to

2872
02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:54,440
Speaker 6: the slave, the slave dungeon, and I guess and the

2873
02:39:54,520 --> 02:39:58,280
Speaker 6: struggles with the tour guide or the brother that was there,

2874
02:39:58,400 --> 02:40:04,440
Speaker 6: like even and this, I guess it's kind of something

2875
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:07,720
Speaker 6: addresses this in general as opposed just with the black

2876
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:10,360
Speaker 6: panther part, just even the different the contrasts, you know

2877
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:12,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, the different dynamics of you know, saying

2878
02:40:12,200 --> 02:40:15,080
Speaker 6: that at the homeland and African as opposed to be

2879
02:40:15,200 --> 02:40:18,160
Speaker 6: asked were like, uh, I remember even the term the

2880
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:20,640
Speaker 6: slave dungeons and how the brother was doing to give

2881
02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:25,720
Speaker 6: providing the tour was consistently references a slave castle. And

2882
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:29,520
Speaker 6: and we're talking about even a different dynamics of slavery,

2883
02:40:29,560 --> 02:40:30,760
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I was talking about like,

2884
02:40:31,280 --> 02:40:34,279
Speaker 6: you know, Chatto slavery as opposed to the child slaves,

2885
02:40:34,480 --> 02:40:37,959
Speaker 6: Chatto slavery in regards you know, colonialism here is opposed

2886
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:41,680
Speaker 6: in contrast to you know, uh, slavey the slavery that

2887
02:40:41,800 --> 02:40:44,360
Speaker 6: did exist you know, in the homeland.

2888
02:40:44,920 --> 02:40:45,200
Speaker 15: And so.

2889
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:50,480
Speaker 6: I don't think he really grasped my point. And we

2890
02:40:50,560 --> 02:40:53,440
Speaker 6: can't give a knowledge about marriage, and I was saying

2891
02:40:53,920 --> 02:40:55,920
Speaker 6: some particulate it's like some background knowing.

2892
02:40:56,080 --> 02:40:57,959
Speaker 7: So much that is at me in the background.

2893
02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:00,840
Speaker 1: I know, I think it's a line. So Kevin, can

2894
02:41:00,879 --> 02:41:02,240
Speaker 1: you hang up on line too? I think it's still

2895
02:41:02,280 --> 02:41:04,360
Speaker 1: there with us. Can you hang up on that? Thank you,

2896
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:06,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, chairman, okay.

2897
02:41:08,680 --> 02:41:11,360
Speaker 6: And I was saying, I was, I was saying that

2898
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:14,920
Speaker 6: I think it was like a disconnect, you know what

2899
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:16,879
Speaker 6: I'm saying that because it's hard for even I think

2900
02:41:16,879 --> 02:41:19,440
Speaker 6: a lot of you know, even here, even though you

2901
02:41:19,480 --> 02:41:23,240
Speaker 6: can we experienced this dynamic colonialism, but like really the

2902
02:41:23,320 --> 02:41:25,760
Speaker 6: grass for the summit up and I and I said

2903
02:41:25,879 --> 02:41:28,880
Speaker 6: a number of times we really came in phantom, you know,

2904
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:33,240
Speaker 6: the different dynamics, you know, like you look at what

2905
02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:35,640
Speaker 6: it was going with this Epstein files. A lot of

2906
02:41:35,680 --> 02:41:36,600
Speaker 6: people still can't, you know.

2907
02:41:36,720 --> 02:41:37,320
Speaker 7: It's it's like a.

2908
02:41:39,080 --> 02:41:41,200
Speaker 6: That's when we have to really grass too, like the

2909
02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:45,560
Speaker 6: different cultures and being colonized with my the different dynamics,

2910
02:41:45,680 --> 02:41:47,320
Speaker 6: like even with what it does so us. We talked

2911
02:41:47,320 --> 02:41:50,160
Speaker 6: about Chato slavery and the different attacks that happened because

2912
02:41:50,200 --> 02:41:53,400
Speaker 6: like the brother I was talking to the slave dungeon

2913
02:41:53,959 --> 02:41:55,920
Speaker 6: and we were talking about the contrast. And I was

2914
02:41:56,000 --> 02:41:58,720
Speaker 6: saying and he was saying, well, slavery was here tell us.

2915
02:41:58,760 --> 02:42:01,440
Speaker 6: I know, I say, but I said, we got to

2916
02:42:01,520 --> 02:42:03,720
Speaker 6: discuss my marriage, and I was saying, I said, could

2917
02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:06,480
Speaker 6: you imagine your like your goats getting you know, getting married,

2918
02:42:06,480 --> 02:42:09,400
Speaker 6: and sayd No, I can't imagine, said child will meaning property.

2919
02:42:09,400 --> 02:42:10,800
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying that I mean, I mean

2920
02:42:10,879 --> 02:42:13,680
Speaker 6: how it guts to humanity out of us, you know,

2921
02:42:14,200 --> 02:42:15,760
Speaker 6: and this, and and I was, you know so that

2922
02:42:15,959 --> 02:42:20,119
Speaker 6: that so so I was, it's difficult for people abroad

2923
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:22,440
Speaker 6: to grasp it. And like many of us who are

2924
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:25,320
Speaker 6: subjected to it, we still really can't grasp you know

2925
02:42:25,320 --> 02:42:27,800
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because again it's so and that's something

2926
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 6: that we have to recognize it that I think it's

2927
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,680
Speaker 6: even a disadvantage and struggle because we cannot you know,

2928
02:42:32,920 --> 02:42:35,040
Speaker 6: we can't even anthem, you know what I'm saying with

2929
02:42:35,160 --> 02:42:37,680
Speaker 6: with with with this, with with with this system. The

2930
02:42:37,840 --> 02:42:39,680
Speaker 6: nature of this beast t talking about what what it does,

2931
02:42:40,000 --> 02:42:42,120
Speaker 6: how it operates, it's natural to it, and a lot

2932
02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:43,760
Speaker 6: of tell us we attempt to look at it from

2933
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:45,800
Speaker 6: the perspective of what we would do, how we view it,

2934
02:42:46,040 --> 02:42:48,120
Speaker 6: Like even the term jail, that's a foreign that's a

2935
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:51,080
Speaker 6: foreign concept to us, you know how you know with

2936
02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:56,400
Speaker 6: how uh uh locking people up, you know, and we

2937
02:42:56,440 --> 02:42:58,360
Speaker 6: had don't get me wrong, we had our contradiction. But

2938
02:42:58,480 --> 02:43:01,760
Speaker 6: this is a this is a the monsters, so I would,

2939
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:04,800
Speaker 6: I'm saying, and it humbles me to say that, because again,

2940
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:07,960
Speaker 6: this is a it's a this, it's a disadvantage and

2941
02:43:08,040 --> 02:43:10,560
Speaker 6: struggle to not be a a grass certain dynamics that

2942
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:13,680
Speaker 6: we had a period of time now where we say

2943
02:43:13,760 --> 02:43:16,440
Speaker 6: where the emperor has no the emperor has no clothes.

2944
02:43:16,879 --> 02:43:19,440
Speaker 6: It's a raw reality. A lot of times people they

2945
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:21,840
Speaker 6: can see it, kind of like with David Walkers said

2946
02:43:21,959 --> 02:43:25,640
Speaker 6: David Walker's appeal. Africans from all walks of life can

2947
02:43:25,720 --> 02:43:28,240
Speaker 6: tell you something you can't grasp it, but a white

2948
02:43:28,240 --> 02:43:30,880
Speaker 6: person from any walk of life can say something is

2949
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:33,480
Speaker 6: taken as a fact. We had this, this, this, this, this,

2950
02:43:33,640 --> 02:43:36,119
Speaker 6: this window of opportunity. Bad ain't good, you know, say,

2951
02:43:36,120 --> 02:43:39,879
Speaker 6: because you know that that terrible, but fine, open up

2952
02:43:39,959 --> 02:43:42,160
Speaker 6: some discussions to be at least acknowledged.

2953
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:43,000
Speaker 7: You know what we deal with.

2954
02:43:43,280 --> 02:43:45,720
Speaker 6: And I think son Chu said, you know, in warfare,

2955
02:43:46,080 --> 02:43:48,000
Speaker 6: the thing is to know thyself and know thy enemy.

2956
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:50,520
Speaker 6: You said, this is this, this is this is an

2957
02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:53,800
Speaker 6: ingredient that's necessary to have a revolutionary period. We've seen

2958
02:43:53,840 --> 02:43:56,480
Speaker 6: this like even sixties, I said, people toward the sixties,

2959
02:43:56,720 --> 02:43:59,960
Speaker 6: I said, you had always never negate that that there

2960
02:44:00,080 --> 02:44:04,000
Speaker 6: uh in pointance of uh mixing. You know that that

2961
02:44:04,120 --> 02:44:07,680
Speaker 6: that that that that wrong reality being exposed, and were

2962
02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:10,000
Speaker 6: in the time period now with so many contradictions are

2963
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:13,520
Speaker 6: blatantly being exposed. You know, so again not just I

2964
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:16,520
Speaker 6: think it's it's helpful, you know what I'm saying for

2965
02:44:16,640 --> 02:44:19,000
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying of us here you saying

2966
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:21,880
Speaker 6: in the States, but also abroad. You know, you know,

2967
02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:25,040
Speaker 6: you know, there's people are seeing you know. I mean, uh,

2968
02:44:25,160 --> 02:44:28,119
Speaker 6: this is nothing new how I appeared and how it works.

2969
02:44:28,160 --> 02:44:28,680
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

2970
02:44:28,879 --> 02:44:30,800
Speaker 6: This is the modus operating date. And a lot of

2971
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:33,360
Speaker 6: people don't saying that they I can't believe this, but

2972
02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:36,439
Speaker 6: this this is historically how you had the system operations.

2973
02:44:36,520 --> 02:44:39,520
Speaker 6: So this is a time period in which UH think

2974
02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:41,720
Speaker 6: Lenin has said that what takes people twenty years to

2975
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:44,280
Speaker 6: learn in ordinary times they can learn in two years.

2976
02:44:44,320 --> 02:44:46,400
Speaker 6: And revolution at the time, So it's leaves and bounds.

2977
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:49,120
Speaker 6: I mean, discussion that happened, and if not time it

2978
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:52,720
Speaker 6: forces us to to even grasp the record recognized significance

2979
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:55,680
Speaker 6: of our potential. I think it was a few months

2980
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:58,400
Speaker 6: back there was some someplace where they say the funding

2981
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:01,680
Speaker 6: the Trump administration is stop the UH. Something event was

2982
02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:03,840
Speaker 6: not going to happen. Forget what we may have been

2983
02:45:03,959 --> 02:45:07,320
Speaker 6: in one of the Carolinas. But anyway, the organization that's

2984
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:11,879
Speaker 6: supposed to convenie the UH, the the event, they surprised themselves.

2985
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:14,240
Speaker 6: But because they fucked they plugged themselves.

2986
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:14,840
Speaker 7: They did it.

2987
02:45:14,920 --> 02:45:16,520
Speaker 6: They were shocked they.

2988
02:45:16,440 --> 02:45:17,120
Speaker 4: Were able to do this.

2989
02:45:17,720 --> 02:45:20,760
Speaker 6: And you see, you see different dynamics now, you know,

2990
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:24,200
Speaker 6: UH Kino Fossol, you know what I'm saying. Stuff there,

2991
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:26,840
Speaker 6: You know with African people are historically what we've been

2992
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:29,200
Speaker 6: able to do, you know what I'm saying. And it's

2993
02:45:29,280 --> 02:45:31,280
Speaker 6: even our potential is you know what I'm saying. It's

2994
02:45:31,320 --> 02:45:33,600
Speaker 6: not not that we're just getting potential, but the high

2995
02:45:33,640 --> 02:45:35,840
Speaker 6: that type of discussion to recognize it. This is a

2996
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:36,959
Speaker 6: phenomenal period of time.

2997
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:39,040
Speaker 1: All right. Hold, I thought we got a bunch of

2998
02:45:39,080 --> 02:45:41,000
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to chairman of twenty nine minutes

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02:45:41,000 --> 02:45:42,480
Speaker 1: away from the top of the I'll start off with

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02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:45,320
Speaker 1: the UH. The president of the Center for Pan African

3001
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Studies in Detroit. Dennis Boat right East Online three gran

3002
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:50,920
Speaker 1: Rise and Dennis is a year on with Chairman Fred.

3003
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:54,760
Speaker 5: Daran Ris and UH.

3004
02:45:56,400 --> 02:45:58,840
Speaker 19: Chairman Fred I would like to ask you a question,

3005
02:45:58,959 --> 02:45:59,600
Speaker 19: and first.

3006
02:45:59,360 --> 02:46:02,240
Speaker 6: Of be I'd like to UH command you from continuing

3007
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:02,920
Speaker 6: to the work.

3008
02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:06,680
Speaker 19: Of your father. And I say this because many you

3009
02:46:06,760 --> 02:46:11,160
Speaker 19: are one among the few children of heroic civil rights

3010
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:13,840
Speaker 19: leaders who we admire that actually are following in the

3011
02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:17,040
Speaker 19: footsteps of their parents. So I want to commend you

3012
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:19,440
Speaker 19: for that, and also Carl Nelson for having you on

3013
02:46:19,480 --> 02:46:21,320
Speaker 19: the show. But my question to you is this. You

3014
02:46:21,440 --> 02:46:24,120
Speaker 19: have mentioned Bukino Fossil, and I want to ask you

3015
02:46:24,440 --> 02:46:27,920
Speaker 19: because these things that though you have a global worldview

3016
02:46:28,040 --> 02:46:29,920
Speaker 19: of things, and I want to ask you, in your

3017
02:46:30,040 --> 02:46:33,360
Speaker 19: travels in Europe as well as parts of Africa, what

3018
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:38,160
Speaker 19: is the perception people have of Captain Ibraheim Chori of

3019
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:43,040
Speaker 19: Bukino Fossil and the other two countries member states of

3020
02:46:43,160 --> 02:46:45,119
Speaker 19: the Alliances for Health State.

3021
02:46:47,720 --> 02:46:49,320
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you for your call, Thank you, thank you

3022
02:46:49,360 --> 02:46:52,040
Speaker 6: for the acknowledge of brother Revolution. I'm honored, I'm honored

3023
02:46:52,120 --> 02:46:55,199
Speaker 6: and I'm humbled to serve the people again.

3024
02:46:55,240 --> 02:46:56,320
Speaker 5: I'm on the humble.

3025
02:46:57,680 --> 02:46:57,959
Speaker 7: I was.

3026
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:01,080
Speaker 5: Uh made.

3027
02:47:01,120 --> 02:47:02,520
Speaker 7: I forget what part of gun I was in.

3028
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:03,200
Speaker 5: And it was.

3029
02:47:05,320 --> 02:47:06,480
Speaker 7: An elderly sister.

3030
02:47:07,240 --> 02:47:10,320
Speaker 6: And you know, you know, I guess in Polish, you

3031
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:12,279
Speaker 6: know it's not not I mean not not not the resources.

3032
02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:16,360
Speaker 6: But it was a picture of Captain Abraham Terade and

3033
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:18,560
Speaker 6: it has like some dust on it, and I just

3034
02:47:18,680 --> 02:47:21,800
Speaker 6: recalled her how the pride she took and wiping the

3035
02:47:21,920 --> 02:47:24,800
Speaker 6: dust up the picture, and that that stuck with me,

3036
02:47:25,000 --> 02:47:27,119
Speaker 6: you know that that among so many other things, that's

3037
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:27,560
Speaker 6: stuck with me.

3038
02:47:28,360 --> 02:47:30,320
Speaker 5: And people would you.

3039
02:47:30,360 --> 02:47:33,480
Speaker 6: Know, I mean, that's his name, and I mean how

3040
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:35,840
Speaker 6: inspiring it is and it's and it's and it's transcending

3041
02:47:36,040 --> 02:47:41,840
Speaker 6: colonial borders and the type of discussions. As I said earlier,

3042
02:47:42,400 --> 02:47:44,600
Speaker 6: you know, politics can be correllated to real estate like

3043
02:47:44,680 --> 02:47:48,080
Speaker 6: time and location all that important. So this time period

3044
02:47:49,280 --> 02:47:53,000
Speaker 6: that you know in uh uh, it's significant, you.

3045
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:53,440
Speaker 7: Know what I'm saying.

3046
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:55,560
Speaker 6: The type of that does have that is so inspiring

3047
02:47:55,640 --> 02:47:58,840
Speaker 6: it and you know to have because you can't have

3048
02:47:59,160 --> 02:48:01,600
Speaker 6: a blanket a blanket and dictments, you know, syce just

3049
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:04,960
Speaker 6: an asset that we're talking about. Even you know with

3050
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:07,560
Speaker 6: here in the States, people say, well, you want to

3051
02:48:07,560 --> 02:48:10,880
Speaker 6: talk about any phenomenon. Whether it be hip hop, you

3052
02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:12,760
Speaker 6: just can't say, well hip hop in general, you have

3053
02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:15,360
Speaker 6: to just you have to distinguish a tupac from a puppy.

3054
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:18,160
Speaker 6: So like, even with that, the dynamic in Africa, you

3055
02:48:18,320 --> 02:48:20,680
Speaker 6: have those, you have contradictions. You know, when many people

3056
02:48:21,040 --> 02:48:24,880
Speaker 6: have you know, have they have been they you know,

3057
02:48:25,400 --> 02:48:27,800
Speaker 6: been subjected to the you know, the puppets, the neo

3058
02:48:27,879 --> 02:48:33,120
Speaker 6: colonialist puppets in place based by different uh, imperial pellice

3059
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:35,600
Speaker 6: of powers when France, Britain, US, so on and so forth.

3060
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:39,440
Speaker 6: But that, I mean everything, that type of everything, how

3061
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:43,560
Speaker 6: it's not just as abstract in fact you and in

3062
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:47,800
Speaker 6: fact I was speaking about distinct recognized like even though

3063
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:50,560
Speaker 6: he's president, but even that that dynamic of how people

3064
02:48:50,560 --> 02:48:53,320
Speaker 6: you know, even myself how reference with Captain Ibrahim Tae

3065
02:48:54,040 --> 02:48:57,400
Speaker 6: that I mean everything from not just the politics, like

3066
02:48:58,000 --> 02:49:02,800
Speaker 6: like telling that the French, uh how we say, dismissing

3067
02:49:02,800 --> 02:49:04,200
Speaker 6: the French, you know, since till the first they can go,

3068
02:49:04,320 --> 02:49:08,720
Speaker 6: they they have to leave. But everything down to what's

3069
02:49:08,840 --> 02:49:12,640
Speaker 6: being taught in the schools, everything down to the principal

3070
02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:16,480
Speaker 6: the position he uh it took about when I forgot

3071
02:49:16,560 --> 02:49:21,440
Speaker 6: who it was offered to create the uh buildings a

3072
02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:25,080
Speaker 6: certain amount of mosques there and he was in the

3073
02:49:25,160 --> 02:49:29,359
Speaker 6: position of the the Captain Eventuary in the Bikino Fossil administration.

3074
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:32,840
Speaker 6: Say no, I mean all due respect, we we we

3075
02:49:32,920 --> 02:49:35,440
Speaker 6: get your schools and medical institutions. You know what I'm saying,

3076
02:49:35,800 --> 02:49:44,800
Speaker 6: and everything down to how the policy about the Whigs

3077
02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:46,760
Speaker 6: the court, the in the courts, you know I'm saying,

3078
02:49:46,760 --> 02:49:48,840
Speaker 6: they said they came with the Whigs anymore, down to

3079
02:49:49,280 --> 02:49:52,400
Speaker 6: how whenever there's a discussion about an attack being waged

3080
02:49:52,480 --> 02:49:53,800
Speaker 6: him because if you don't know about it, was it

3081
02:49:53,920 --> 02:49:57,000
Speaker 6: January third, the same the same the same day that

3082
02:49:58,200 --> 02:50:01,600
Speaker 6: Maduro President Maduro in Venezuela and his wife were taking

3083
02:50:01,600 --> 02:50:05,160
Speaker 6: out of Venezuela, there was an attempted cool An assassination,

3084
02:50:05,200 --> 02:50:10,000
Speaker 6: another assassinate attempt on Captain Abraham Trade. And how the people,

3085
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:14,720
Speaker 6: the people mobilized. Uh, it's a term that the people

3086
02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:17,280
Speaker 6: in particularly the elderly community, I think called wak and doodle.

3087
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:18,840
Speaker 6: Forgive me for I know what I'm saying. It's wrong

3088
02:50:18,840 --> 02:50:21,560
Speaker 6: because in fact, me and Pete O'Neill, or the Black

3089
02:50:21,600 --> 02:50:23,959
Speaker 6: Pass part, we kind of comment to each other sometimes

3090
02:50:23,959 --> 02:50:27,400
Speaker 6: we be butchering the language, not not intentionally, but it's

3091
02:50:27,440 --> 02:50:31,119
Speaker 6: a or the people themselves take on this dynamic about

3092
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:34,840
Speaker 6: security like you know what, and and that that's something

3093
02:50:34,879 --> 02:50:36,240
Speaker 6: we always to distinguished between the.

3094
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:39,360
Speaker 7: War and the revolution, where the war your war, you.

3095
02:50:39,360 --> 02:50:42,280
Speaker 6: Have your respective armies, get that, but the revolution the

3096
02:50:42,440 --> 02:50:47,000
Speaker 6: participation of that main ingredient, the people. And it's I mean,

3097
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:49,960
Speaker 6: it's inspiring, you know, even how they say when when

3098
02:50:49,959 --> 02:50:52,520
Speaker 6: you go over there, the people's position by like you know,

3099
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:55,480
Speaker 6: being kept how you use social media that you just

3100
02:50:55,560 --> 02:50:57,960
Speaker 6: can't you just can't even you can't just record everything

3101
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:04,240
Speaker 6: over there acknowledging acknowledge you the beatings were assassination attempts

3102
02:51:04,280 --> 02:51:05,720
Speaker 6: on him, you know what I'm saying. And that's a

3103
02:51:05,800 --> 02:51:08,560
Speaker 6: discussion that you know, I think back when I was

3104
02:51:08,600 --> 02:51:11,000
Speaker 6: going to interview there and now when I said it

3105
02:51:11,520 --> 02:51:14,400
Speaker 6: and they had the interview, Will asked me, and uh,

3106
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:17,879
Speaker 6: those in Ghana, they acknowledge that that's a difficult that's

3107
02:51:17,879 --> 02:51:19,800
Speaker 6: a difficult pill for a lot of people to swallow

3108
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:23,000
Speaker 6: here in the States, even in that term assassination because

3109
02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:27,200
Speaker 6: we're deprived of those political terms. And that's and that's

3110
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:30,320
Speaker 6: that's there's Mabe. Some bounced to acknowledge that we are.

3111
02:51:30,400 --> 02:51:34,720
Speaker 6: It's one thing to be attacked and to be acknowledged

3112
02:51:34,760 --> 02:51:36,920
Speaker 6: that there's a war being waged on you, and we

3113
02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:40,000
Speaker 6: even denied that opportunity. There's a non acknowledged war, right

3114
02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:40,480
Speaker 6: and hold I.

3115
02:51:40,480 --> 02:51:42,760
Speaker 1: Thought right there, Chairman, I step aside for a few moments,

3116
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:44,960
Speaker 1: and Dannis, I thank you for your call. It's twenty

3117
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,240
Speaker 1: three minutes away from the top of their family. I

3118
02:51:47,280 --> 02:51:49,360
Speaker 1: guess it's cheering. Fred Hampton, as I mentioned, just back

3119
02:51:49,400 --> 02:51:52,000
Speaker 1: from Tanzania and Ghana, is giving us a report on

3120
02:51:52,080 --> 02:51:54,320
Speaker 1: his trip. You want to join the discussion, just reach

3121
02:51:54,360 --> 02:51:56,520
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

3122
02:51:57,040 --> 02:51:59,920
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls now.

3123
02:52:00,240 --> 02:52:02,680
Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us on

3124
02:52:02,800 --> 02:52:05,000
Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning with our guest chairman, Fred Hampton, the

3125
02:52:05,040 --> 02:52:08,279
Speaker 1: chairman out of Chicago, just back from Tanzania and Ghana.

3126
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:10,360
Speaker 1: Because a bunch of folks still got one to speak

3127
02:52:10,400 --> 02:52:12,200
Speaker 1: with him. Seventeen away from the top of Now, let's

3128
02:52:12,200 --> 02:52:15,520
Speaker 1: go to kimmen and New Wallans online four Grand Rising

3129
02:52:15,640 --> 02:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Kim here, I'm a chairman, Fred Skim there on line four.

3130
02:52:21,680 --> 02:52:23,240
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm sorry here.

3131
02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:28,240
Speaker 13: I am. Good morning everyone, Grand Rising, Grand Rising. I

3132
02:52:28,440 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 13: just want to chime in to.

3133
02:52:31,040 --> 02:52:33,720
Speaker 14: Say that I am enjoined the showman joined listening to

3134
02:52:34,520 --> 02:52:38,080
Speaker 14: the Chairman tell us about his experience and he is

3135
02:52:38,200 --> 02:52:44,720
Speaker 14: one of the most HUH recognized.

3136
02:52:44,200 --> 02:52:50,680
Speaker 13: And leaders in my community. I'm also a member of

3137
02:52:50,720 --> 02:52:53,920
Speaker 13: the huge P Newton Gun Club, and just being able

3138
02:52:53,959 --> 02:52:56,880
Speaker 13: to be around him and be in his essence and

3139
02:52:57,080 --> 02:53:00,440
Speaker 13: listen to what he has to say, I'm just it

3140
02:53:00,760 --> 02:53:05,280
Speaker 13: enriches me as a as a revolutionary and as a

3141
02:53:05,400 --> 02:53:08,360
Speaker 13: human being. And I'm just so thankful for him and

3142
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:12,880
Speaker 13: thankful to his trip to uh Ghana, and it just

3143
02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:15,320
Speaker 13: it just made a whole difference in my life. And

3144
02:53:15,400 --> 02:53:18,920
Speaker 13: I'm looking forward to myself going as well, just to

3145
02:53:19,040 --> 02:53:25,240
Speaker 13: see him and his UH interactions, their boots on the

3146
02:53:25,360 --> 02:53:28,760
Speaker 13: ground in Africa. It was a big deal and I

3147
02:53:29,120 --> 02:53:30,320
Speaker 13: thank you for it. Chairman.

3148
02:53:30,360 --> 02:53:33,440
Speaker 14: I say that I was watching you the whole time

3149
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:36,600
Speaker 14: and sharing it is everything.

3150
02:53:37,000 --> 02:53:42,320
Speaker 6: Thank you, love, relish the love, respect to you and

3151
02:53:43,040 --> 02:53:47,080
Speaker 6: with the comrades there again, I'm honor and humble to

3152
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:51,000
Speaker 6: serve and again clinchfid Loop for the continuous work that

3153
02:53:51,080 --> 02:53:53,600
Speaker 6: you ju comrads are doing on the ground. H do

3154
02:53:53,640 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 6: your new gunk club. You know what I'm saying. We

3155
02:53:55,120 --> 02:53:57,520
Speaker 6: look forward to continue to make history, takee history and

3156
02:53:57,560 --> 02:53:58,080
Speaker 6: tape history.

3157
02:54:00,080 --> 02:54:05,720
Speaker 1: All right, thanksgiving Chairmany were they aware of the movie,

3158
02:54:06,200 --> 02:54:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, Jennison and the Black and the Black Messiah.

3159
02:54:09,360 --> 02:54:10,320
Speaker 1: It was was that movie?

3160
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:11,160
Speaker 3: Did they?

3161
02:54:11,320 --> 02:54:11,560
Speaker 5: Did you?

3162
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Do you have questions about the movie either in in

3163
02:54:14,720 --> 02:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Tangiani or Ghana.

3164
02:54:17,800 --> 02:54:21,120
Speaker 6: Certain forces you know, you know again like you know

3165
02:54:23,000 --> 02:54:26,200
Speaker 6: it was certain certain forces were and but once once

3166
02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:30,040
Speaker 6: you touched it, you know, because again you got those

3167
02:54:30,120 --> 02:54:32,800
Speaker 6: workers being done about making that connection. We gotta always

3168
02:54:32,879 --> 02:54:35,120
Speaker 6: keep in mind. I guess I use the knowledgy like

3169
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:38,480
Speaker 6: you know, working out. You know, you know, I recall

3170
02:54:38,520 --> 02:54:40,160
Speaker 6: when I got I got, I got in shape, when

3171
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:42,240
Speaker 6: I was I was held captive and the brother told

3172
02:54:42,240 --> 02:54:43,880
Speaker 6: me to Chairman, we haven't seen you on the yard, lady.

3173
02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:45,840
Speaker 6: I said, man, I'm good, nice a champman. It's you

3174
02:54:45,920 --> 02:54:48,280
Speaker 6: see reminded, this is the ongoing process. You gotta you

3175
02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:51,000
Speaker 6: gotta stay on the yard. You got all wound. So

3176
02:54:51,160 --> 02:54:53,120
Speaker 6: we gotta keep in mind, and particular with our people.

3177
02:54:53,879 --> 02:54:56,680
Speaker 6: They're getting I mean the propaganda bombs and those I

3178
02:54:56,720 --> 02:55:00,720
Speaker 6: mean the puffy combs, all the difference. Uh, this conceptions,

3179
02:55:00,959 --> 02:55:05,200
Speaker 6: they're they're they're these these criminals, these propaganda bombs have

3180
02:55:05,320 --> 02:55:08,520
Speaker 6: done international damage that you know what I'm saying. So

3181
02:55:08,720 --> 02:55:12,720
Speaker 6: they're like we've seen a lot of times, not a

3182
02:55:12,720 --> 02:55:16,040
Speaker 6: lot of us are not even cognizant of the cornage

3183
02:55:16,640 --> 02:55:19,240
Speaker 6: that these criminals have, you know, and that this system has,

3184
02:55:19,280 --> 02:55:21,920
Speaker 6: you know, saying in our own respected communities here. So

3185
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:24,120
Speaker 6: I time we look at the subjection, it's just it's

3186
02:55:24,200 --> 02:55:26,640
Speaker 6: just going on in the streets of Chicago. So no,

3187
02:55:27,080 --> 02:55:31,000
Speaker 6: these this system does not respect colonial borders. I mean

3188
02:55:31,160 --> 02:55:33,040
Speaker 6: they have you're saying, put out this need that the

3189
02:55:33,200 --> 02:55:36,760
Speaker 6: count so many, so many different progressive moves that we're making.

3190
02:55:37,240 --> 02:55:40,480
Speaker 6: But we we did some showings in fact of Judics

3191
02:55:40,480 --> 02:55:42,480
Speaker 6: and the Black Missia. We had discussions, you know, I'm

3192
02:55:42,480 --> 02:55:44,400
Speaker 6: saying even about sinners.

3193
02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:44,560
Speaker 4: You know.

3194
02:55:45,040 --> 02:55:48,960
Speaker 6: In fact, once we had showed uh, Judas and Black Missiay,

3195
02:55:49,040 --> 02:55:53,720
Speaker 6: we had Ryan Coogler, we had we had we had

3196
02:55:53,760 --> 02:55:57,880
Speaker 6: them calling in and and uh and and and we

3197
02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:00,480
Speaker 6: had him. We had Daniel Luia and that opened Danik

3198
02:56:00,520 --> 02:56:03,040
Speaker 6: who portrayed Champman if we played Chamber Fred, and that

3199
02:56:03,160 --> 02:56:04,880
Speaker 6: opened the door for so many discussions, you know, of

3200
02:56:04,920 --> 02:56:08,520
Speaker 6: course by Daniel Kunua. This the Uganda Uh you know

3201
02:56:08,879 --> 02:56:10,960
Speaker 6: those you know you grew up in London. But that

3202
02:56:11,360 --> 02:56:13,280
Speaker 6: that that helped the discussion, you know what I'm saying,

3203
02:56:13,360 --> 02:56:17,840
Speaker 6: drawing the connections with our people, you know sold but

3204
02:56:17,959 --> 02:56:20,040
Speaker 6: again similar to hear in the States and whatever.

3205
02:56:20,040 --> 02:56:20,560
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

3206
02:56:20,680 --> 02:56:22,520
Speaker 6: So some of the same types as they do with us,

3207
02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:24,760
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, with the propaganda, bombs and

3208
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:28,480
Speaker 6: the misinformation that's being done on a world level, world stage,

3209
02:56:28,800 --> 02:56:32,520
Speaker 6: we were able to send it again the touchdown without

3210
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:35,240
Speaker 6: you know, with the community in the politics, I say,

3211
02:56:35,360 --> 02:56:36,440
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. That's why I said I

3212
02:56:36,480 --> 02:56:39,200
Speaker 6: was so I'm so excited about that embassy moved to.

3213
02:56:39,720 --> 02:56:41,760
Speaker 6: I say that that that not to sound subjective, but

3214
02:56:41,840 --> 02:56:46,360
Speaker 6: that Black Panther Party politics, it's it's it transcends even

3215
02:56:46,480 --> 02:56:48,840
Speaker 6: language barriers, you know what I'm saying. In fact, I

3216
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:51,720
Speaker 6: was hoping my our definitely chairwoman called in from Brazil,

3217
02:56:52,400 --> 02:56:55,039
Speaker 6: Uh Soujeti and I want her to call in talk

3218
02:56:55,040 --> 02:56:57,000
Speaker 6: about some years ago and we touched down our chapter

3219
02:56:57,120 --> 02:56:58,840
Speaker 6: of the Black tamp the party comes in South Polo,

3220
02:56:59,520 --> 02:57:02,720
Speaker 6: UH Black Consciences Day and the connection was able to

3221
02:57:02,760 --> 02:57:06,000
Speaker 6: do there that transcend even the language. And that's that's

3222
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:08,960
Speaker 6: something param Africa talked about when she she made some

3223
02:57:09,080 --> 02:57:11,040
Speaker 6: jokes about. She made a joke about she said, I

3224
02:57:11,200 --> 02:57:13,080
Speaker 6: been going to France all these years, she said, but

3225
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:15,200
Speaker 6: well I would, she said, Chairman Fred came to France

3226
02:57:15,280 --> 02:57:18,640
Speaker 6: with us. We was for the Jamal's Street signed and

3227
02:57:18,800 --> 02:57:21,600
Speaker 6: she said, he got he found the hood. It's a

3228
02:57:21,680 --> 02:57:24,640
Speaker 6: community in France which we have a chapter there in

3229
02:57:24,720 --> 02:57:28,920
Speaker 6: San Deni. And there was this this this area, uh

3230
02:57:29,440 --> 02:57:31,920
Speaker 6: the dough. There was a language barrier. We were able

3231
02:57:31,959 --> 02:57:34,520
Speaker 6: to make that connection, you know. And and and we

3232
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:39,480
Speaker 6: we say no no language barriers, no change, no shackles,

3233
02:57:39,520 --> 02:57:41,800
Speaker 6: no water, no land. We're able to make them the

3234
02:57:41,879 --> 02:57:45,760
Speaker 6: divide us. And so once that that the movie was

3235
02:57:45,840 --> 02:57:51,080
Speaker 6: a good uh showed j Black Mossite a good a

3236
02:57:51,160 --> 02:57:54,120
Speaker 6: good uh Medway, I guess you know what I'm saying.

3237
02:57:54,440 --> 02:57:57,880
Speaker 6: Open the discussion and again we about the present day

3238
02:57:57,879 --> 02:57:59,520
Speaker 6: is the present day struggle as well as the past

3239
02:57:59,560 --> 02:58:00,440
Speaker 6: and making no connection.

3240
02:58:01,200 --> 02:58:01,480
Speaker 3: All right?

3241
02:58:01,560 --> 02:58:03,640
Speaker 1: Hold up, thorry that chairman twelve way from the top

3242
02:58:03,680 --> 02:58:06,240
Speaker 1: of the bunches joining us from Louisiana just wants to

3243
02:58:06,280 --> 02:58:08,480
Speaker 1: give you a shout out. He's online five grand rising

3244
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:10,039
Speaker 1: bunch of you on Chairman Fred.

3245
02:58:12,280 --> 02:58:14,800
Speaker 20: Blank Pole one a bunch of carter when he wassing

3246
02:58:14,840 --> 02:58:17,560
Speaker 20: gun Club. I'm just wanted to get shouts out to

3247
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:21,920
Speaker 20: Chairman Fred. Been watching you the whole time on social media.

3248
02:58:22,400 --> 02:58:26,160
Speaker 20: I've been following the work that you've been doing. It

3249
02:58:26,320 --> 02:58:30,800
Speaker 20: was an honor to meet you. And he has a

3250
02:58:30,879 --> 02:58:36,760
Speaker 20: revolution there. I really you know, Chairman Fred is like

3251
02:58:37,480 --> 02:58:42,080
Speaker 20: highly respected and he just wanted to get a shot

3252
02:58:42,440 --> 02:58:44,120
Speaker 20: to him from Black Pole.

3253
02:58:44,280 --> 02:58:46,119
Speaker 7: Free them all all.

3254
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:48,760
Speaker 1: Right, Thank you, bunchie, been a little respecting Black Pole.

3255
02:58:48,800 --> 02:58:51,039
Speaker 7: Free them all white black catches right on coming.

3256
02:58:52,120 --> 02:58:54,560
Speaker 1: And thanks bunches. Thanks you call Chairman Fred. You know,

3257
02:58:54,879 --> 02:58:57,080
Speaker 1: it seems like you've gotten bitten by the travel bug.

3258
02:58:57,120 --> 02:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Once you go to Africa and you go back again.

3259
02:59:00,040 --> 02:59:02,520
Speaker 1: How you been to Tangiania? Where else on the map

3260
02:59:02,600 --> 02:59:04,520
Speaker 1: on the content? Are you thinking about going?

3261
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:06,760
Speaker 7: Oh? Hey, disguise a member?

3262
02:59:08,280 --> 02:59:13,320
Speaker 6: And in fact I said, uh, you know, I have

3263
02:59:13,440 --> 02:59:15,760
Speaker 6: a duty to get back here. You know what I'm saying.

3264
02:59:16,000 --> 02:59:17,760
Speaker 6: You know, we had so many assignments we have to do,

3265
02:59:17,879 --> 02:59:23,200
Speaker 6: but this guy's a limit, you know. And as I

3266
02:59:23,280 --> 02:59:28,160
Speaker 6: mentioned Daniel Luja earlier, he was his past. Twenty fourth

3267
02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:32,560
Speaker 6: was February twenty fourth, he was actually his birthday. He

3268
02:59:32,680 --> 02:59:36,480
Speaker 6: called me that night and I was he had It

3269
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:38,440
Speaker 6: was real good needs discussion I had to have with him.

3270
02:59:38,600 --> 02:59:44,080
Speaker 6: And I feel I guess I took sometimes I suffered

3271
02:59:44,080 --> 02:59:48,360
Speaker 6: from survivor's remorse and uh and I said a lot

3272
02:59:48,400 --> 02:59:50,720
Speaker 6: of times, I, you know, I feel like about leaving.

3273
02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:54,160
Speaker 6: And I think about this quote that they asked Malcolm

3274
02:59:54,320 --> 02:59:56,920
Speaker 6: X about you know the States. Is said, well, he's

3275
02:59:56,959 --> 02:59:58,920
Speaker 6: had got too much work to do here. Also, they said,

3276
02:59:59,080 --> 03:00:02,120
Speaker 6: you know about in regards leaving. But Daniel klu said

3277
03:00:02,160 --> 03:00:04,440
Speaker 6: something to me. He said, you say, man, chairman, you

3278
03:00:04,520 --> 03:00:06,959
Speaker 6: say you need to say you gotta You say you're

3279
03:00:06,959 --> 03:00:08,760
Speaker 6: a soldier, and you say you're a human. You gotta

3280
03:00:08,800 --> 03:00:12,200
Speaker 6: recharge too, you gotta gotta recharge. You say you see

3281
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:14,240
Speaker 6: the world, I mega, what do you say?

3282
03:00:14,240 --> 03:00:14,440
Speaker 5: You say?

3283
03:00:14,480 --> 03:00:17,120
Speaker 6: The world is your the world is your room, you know.

3284
03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:20,040
Speaker 6: And it was ironic that he I'm hearing him telling

3285
03:00:20,120 --> 03:00:22,760
Speaker 6: me this. And I remember even the discussions that happened

3286
03:00:23,160 --> 03:00:25,959
Speaker 6: with the making of Judis Black Messidy that was out

3287
03:00:25,959 --> 03:00:28,960
Speaker 6: of you know, struggles and discussion of in regards to

3288
03:00:29,959 --> 03:00:32,920
Speaker 6: Daniel Clue you put playing chairman Fred back you again,

3289
03:00:32,959 --> 03:00:34,680
Speaker 6: you know, saying by him, you know, saying uh uh

3290
03:00:35,160 --> 03:00:38,560
Speaker 6: directly from from the homeland. And I talked up there.

3291
03:00:38,680 --> 03:00:42,040
Speaker 6: I politically laid out you know, opposition about you know, internationalism,

3292
03:00:43,040 --> 03:00:45,360
Speaker 6: uh in communalism with the Black pap of Party. But

3293
03:00:46,120 --> 03:00:48,720
Speaker 6: politically I laid that out. But if for to hear

3294
03:00:48,800 --> 03:00:51,320
Speaker 6: that to hit me, I need that reminder from for me,

3295
03:00:51,400 --> 03:00:52,960
Speaker 6: you know, I'm saying that it is a duty because

3296
03:00:53,000 --> 03:00:56,960
Speaker 6: our time. I need that political assessment to you know,

3297
03:00:57,600 --> 03:01:01,240
Speaker 6: uh what I'm doing, how howard moving because in fact,

3298
03:01:01,280 --> 03:01:03,040
Speaker 6: got this point pointed out recently. I was I'm not

3299
03:01:03,080 --> 03:01:05,640
Speaker 6: a I took offense when I said something. I said, no, no,

3300
03:01:05,720 --> 03:01:08,480
Speaker 6: I'm not on a vacation. I'm on a delegation. And

3301
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:10,640
Speaker 6: I you know, I love the work. I love serving

3302
03:01:10,680 --> 03:01:15,000
Speaker 6: the people now and and I don't I can't guess

3303
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:17,240
Speaker 6: how I feel funny like you know, like just enjoying us.

3304
03:01:17,360 --> 03:01:20,840
Speaker 6: But the world there's we are infesting this this period

3305
03:01:20,879 --> 03:01:25,280
Speaker 6: of time where there's the connections are being made because

3306
03:01:25,280 --> 03:01:27,560
Speaker 6: a lot of times you have to struggle against subjectivity.

3307
03:01:27,640 --> 03:01:29,440
Speaker 6: A lot people have tunnel vision and they get us

3308
03:01:29,480 --> 03:01:32,359
Speaker 6: caught up with that and even if the vanguard is organized,

3309
03:01:32,360 --> 03:01:34,640
Speaker 6: we can get we can be susceptible to that. You know,

3310
03:01:34,879 --> 03:01:36,200
Speaker 6: we just start saying, okay, this is going on. You

3311
03:01:36,240 --> 03:01:38,680
Speaker 6: can start only saying what's happening right here. But this

3312
03:01:38,840 --> 03:01:41,640
Speaker 6: is a time period in which, again the emperor has

3313
03:01:41,720 --> 03:01:45,120
Speaker 6: no clothes, and you're seeing the connection. You may you know,

3314
03:01:45,280 --> 03:01:47,280
Speaker 6: like I talked about when we went to the Standard

3315
03:01:47,320 --> 03:01:50,720
Speaker 6: Rode North Dakota with indigenous community natives and like we said,

3316
03:01:50,720 --> 03:01:51,000
Speaker 6: why are.

3317
03:01:50,959 --> 03:01:51,520
Speaker 13: You down there?

3318
03:01:51,640 --> 03:01:54,320
Speaker 6: And Standard Rod challenging the pipelines and you know, uh

3319
03:01:54,360 --> 03:01:57,160
Speaker 6: uh in uh North Dakota. And it was later on

3320
03:01:57,280 --> 03:01:59,840
Speaker 6: that and some people they seen the connection to Chicago.

3321
03:02:00,040 --> 03:02:01,520
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying that the impact that has

3322
03:02:01,720 --> 03:02:04,520
Speaker 6: because the philosophical one of the philosophical tools that we

3323
03:02:04,640 --> 03:02:08,000
Speaker 6: relate to is dialectical materialism, and none of us live

3324
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:10,320
Speaker 6: in a bubble. And one of the criteristics of that

3325
03:02:10,560 --> 03:02:14,360
Speaker 6: is that I'm impacted by other people's actions and vice versa.

3326
03:02:14,720 --> 03:02:17,360
Speaker 6: And so this this time period, I envied it. I've

3327
03:02:17,440 --> 03:02:19,640
Speaker 6: always I talked about it. I said, I envied this

3328
03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:21,920
Speaker 6: time period. And you know what I'm saying, And I'm

3329
03:02:22,000 --> 03:02:23,960
Speaker 6: and I'm again I'm i don't. I don't relate to

3330
03:02:24,040 --> 03:02:26,800
Speaker 6: any part of some political party, whether it be the Democrats, Republican.

3331
03:02:27,160 --> 03:02:31,320
Speaker 6: But this period of time I've had the most informative discussions.

3332
03:02:31,360 --> 03:02:34,120
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, good dad and ugly and

3333
03:02:34,360 --> 03:02:39,240
Speaker 6: you know, as opposed its elementary assessment which is going

3334
03:02:39,320 --> 03:02:41,240
Speaker 6: on here, which is going on here, to be able

3335
03:02:41,240 --> 03:02:44,400
Speaker 6: to make these connections, because I don't want, you know,

3336
03:02:44,520 --> 03:02:47,320
Speaker 6: even with Chaman Friends and the paspe the Marrow Clark's assassination.

3337
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:50,880
Speaker 6: I said, I told you that I look back at

3338
03:02:50,920 --> 03:02:53,120
Speaker 6: that that quote that that in the Judicis of Black

3339
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:55,080
Speaker 6: Messidy would the scene the chairman Friend was meet with

3340
03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:57,720
Speaker 6: the leader of the Crowns and and you said something

3341
03:02:57,760 --> 03:03:00,440
Speaker 6: to the fact that we should be so lucky, I said,

3342
03:03:00,879 --> 03:03:02,760
Speaker 6: and I think back to this thing about to be

3343
03:03:02,879 --> 03:03:06,199
Speaker 6: able to be on the struggle, on the world struggle,

3344
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:09,160
Speaker 6: you say, And I'm saying this. I remember a brother

3345
03:03:09,280 --> 03:03:11,280
Speaker 6: told me he's past now. He told he reminded me

3346
03:03:11,320 --> 03:03:13,280
Speaker 6: something that when I was about twelve years old. He

3347
03:03:13,400 --> 03:03:16,320
Speaker 6: reminded me of something one time. He said, I remember

3348
03:03:16,480 --> 03:03:18,760
Speaker 6: we was a brother and our community had got murdered,

3349
03:03:18,800 --> 03:03:20,600
Speaker 6: and he was twenty one years old, and we were

3350
03:03:20,600 --> 03:03:21,560
Speaker 6: both talking about that's old.

3351
03:03:21,600 --> 03:03:22,440
Speaker 7: We thought that was old.

3352
03:03:22,840 --> 03:03:24,840
Speaker 6: He said, Man, he got to be twenty one. That's

3353
03:03:24,879 --> 03:03:26,680
Speaker 6: how much you know, killing with us that you know

3354
03:03:27,120 --> 03:03:30,040
Speaker 6: and reviewed life. But he said he remembered me saying,

3355
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:32,040
Speaker 6: and at that time it was big to have your

3356
03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:34,880
Speaker 6: name printed and in Chicago would defend the newspaper. This

3357
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:38,640
Speaker 6: is pre social media. And he said he recalled me

3358
03:03:38,760 --> 03:03:42,080
Speaker 6: saying I'm not going to be a one liner in

3359
03:03:42,280 --> 03:03:44,160
Speaker 6: Chicago and I'm not going to be a one liner

3360
03:03:44,200 --> 03:03:47,120
Speaker 6: in the paper. And so again that this is a

3361
03:03:47,200 --> 03:03:49,640
Speaker 6: time period where the antist being is being up. You

3362
03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:51,880
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So again asked the question, man

3363
03:03:51,959 --> 03:03:54,280
Speaker 6: that the world you know to be able to make

3364
03:03:54,320 --> 03:03:56,280
Speaker 6: these cause whatever do the calls? I tell you, like

3365
03:03:56,520 --> 03:03:57,520
Speaker 6: I live by the suitcase.

3366
03:03:57,760 --> 03:03:58,280
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

3367
03:03:58,320 --> 03:04:01,480
Speaker 6: What I got in call now to see what we

3368
03:04:02,280 --> 03:04:04,720
Speaker 6: deployed the Grand Rappers Michigan for that Quan the Kwan

3369
03:04:04,840 --> 03:04:05,520
Speaker 6: Johnson's case.

3370
03:04:05,520 --> 03:04:06,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

3371
03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:08,440
Speaker 6: So the brother who was the dog Mall is facing

3372
03:04:08,560 --> 03:04:11,200
Speaker 6: for these phase merger so duty calls. But I'm just

3373
03:04:11,879 --> 03:04:15,520
Speaker 6: honored and humble to say the beauty some some comras

3374
03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:18,440
Speaker 6: we just called in recently calling it. Now I have

3375
03:04:18,560 --> 03:04:20,240
Speaker 6: that opportunity to bet them know something.

3376
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:22,879
Speaker 1: Something Let me here, because we're racing the clock. Let

3377
03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:24,560
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Chairman, because you you've taken a

3378
03:04:24,640 --> 03:04:27,560
Speaker 1: young young brothers and sistance in Chicago, You've taken them

3379
03:04:28,200 --> 03:04:30,480
Speaker 1: out of the city into the suburbs, and you know

3380
03:04:30,879 --> 03:04:33,680
Speaker 1: what other sides look like, the others because most of

3381
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:38,120
Speaker 1: them are confined into the inner city Chicago land. If

3382
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:40,080
Speaker 1: you got any plans to take some of these those

3383
03:04:40,120 --> 03:04:42,920
Speaker 1: same brothers and those young people to Africa so they

3384
03:04:42,959 --> 03:04:44,840
Speaker 1: can see another side of the world.

3385
03:04:45,760 --> 03:04:47,080
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I do.

3386
03:04:47,400 --> 03:04:50,640
Speaker 6: In fact, we've uh I prematurely took to some We

3387
03:04:50,720 --> 03:04:52,920
Speaker 6: took some cats before, and it was premature, you know

3388
03:04:52,959 --> 03:04:56,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because they were not uh it was

3389
03:04:56,160 --> 03:04:58,040
Speaker 6: it was it was like a reaction there move. We

3390
03:04:58,120 --> 03:04:59,720
Speaker 6: got some cats to go before, some youngsters and they

3391
03:04:59,720 --> 03:05:02,320
Speaker 6: were not politically developed. They didn't they couldn't distinguish their

3392
03:05:02,360 --> 03:05:03,400
Speaker 6: vacation from delegation.

3393
03:05:03,520 --> 03:05:04,880
Speaker 5: But we are preparing.

3394
03:05:05,240 --> 03:05:07,600
Speaker 6: Yes, in fact, ideally I would we would like to

3395
03:05:07,680 --> 03:05:10,959
Speaker 6: have sixty youths for the sixty anniversary the Black Panted

3396
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:13,640
Speaker 6: Party to be able to go back this year. Ideally

3397
03:05:13,959 --> 03:05:15,440
Speaker 6: we work we want to work on that, you know

3398
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:18,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, So ask your question. Yes, we definitely

3399
03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:20,280
Speaker 6: want to work on that. We need support for that.

3400
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:23,400
Speaker 6: Make that correlation. And this weekend I'm trying to get

3401
03:05:23,440 --> 03:05:26,280
Speaker 6: some ulster to go down to this land Pembrook yill

3402
03:05:26,320 --> 03:05:29,520
Speaker 6: show the retreatut of Chicago. But we definitely before this year,

3403
03:05:29,640 --> 03:05:31,720
Speaker 6: so we want to get sixty more sixty for the

3404
03:05:31,800 --> 03:05:34,800
Speaker 6: sixtieth we get sixty youth to go uh back to Africa,

3405
03:05:34,840 --> 03:05:37,560
Speaker 6: you know, the touchdown with the community, uh with o'neils

3406
03:05:37,560 --> 03:05:40,040
Speaker 6: and Tanzania and other parts. And also that's that's something

3407
03:05:40,040 --> 03:05:42,240
Speaker 6: that's one of the major aspects of the embassy, the

3408
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Speaker 6: Black Panther Party Cubs Embassy, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So people, we're gonna need to support for that. So

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Speaker 6: we didn't go to save halfonhouse dot org. Were working

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Speaker 6: on our ways. The chair of Fridge in your website,

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Speaker 6: the Black Painted Party Cub website, look for that.

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Speaker 7: We definitely also take me notice too. I got I

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Speaker 7: got a degree.

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Speaker 6: I want to this was I want to school a

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Speaker 6: little bit over there too. Also they make it Joses

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Speaker 6: saying I got two doctors now doctores. I got a

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Speaker 6: degree in herbal and research training not to herbs. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I gotta degree over there to the school over also.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, hey listen, we're just about out of time.

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Speaker 1: How can folks want to healthy'ssess? You know, get those

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Speaker 1: youngsters in our community over to the continent because that's

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Speaker 1: life changing.

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Speaker 7: Have they reached your chairman A Savedhampton House dot org.

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Speaker 6: Keep the donate button, save the heaptonhouse dot org, get

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Speaker 6: the donate button, the cash app dollar time, save the

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Speaker 6: happen house.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, thank you, chairman, Thank you for sharing your thoughts

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Speaker 1: with us. And we got to shout out to mama CoA.

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Speaker 1: Also make sure that shout out to mama say hello

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Speaker 1: to your mom.

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Speaker 7: Chairman, appreciate you brother.

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Speaker 1: Yes, alrighty, family, that's it for the day. Classes dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see tomorrow

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Speaker 1: morning six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten ten

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Speaker 1: w OLB and also on the DMV on fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: wol