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Speaker 1: correct the correct answer is four. It's EA Drink Smoke, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Tony katz w That is fingers Maloy find everything we

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Speaker 1: do at EA Drinksmoke show dot com. I went into

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Speaker 1: the local UH liquor store and I said, what did

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Speaker 1: I say to the ShopKeep?

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Speaker 1: I need I need some bourbons under fifty dollars. Now

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Speaker 1: there were a nice selection of bourbons under fifty dollars,

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Speaker 1: not under thirty five under fifty. This is the new

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Speaker 1: world in which we live. And this right here is

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Speaker 1: town branch. Now there was a straight bourbon, and then

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Speaker 1: there was this what they call the true cask. Straight.

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Speaker 1: This fingers Maloy has no aid statement, but it would

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Speaker 1: have to be at least four years. We don't know

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Speaker 1: how old this is done. Oh you're through the nose.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna tell us five years. You are just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But it does come in fingers molloy at one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twelve proof. Ah, he always gives a plus or

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Speaker 1: anything over one hundred and twelve. What took me? I

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Speaker 1: knew nothing about the group Lexington Distilling. I believe is

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Speaker 1: it Lexington Brewing and Distilling, Lexington Brewing Co. Dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very cool bottle. It's it's like

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Speaker 1: this perfect square ooops bout. That's that's it. That is it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a very it was so much different than

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Speaker 1: everything else. Proof positive that the marketing works. I said,

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Speaker 1: Don't know the mash bill. That's also an unknown. One

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Speaker 1: group over there, Whiskey Wash thought it was seventy two

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Speaker 1: percent corn, fifteen percent multed barley, thirteen percent rye, which

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Speaker 1: would say to me, that is a pretty sweet bourbon

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Speaker 1: right there. But the people at Lexington Brewing and Distilling

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Speaker 1: say it's undisclosed. So we're not one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: what the mash bill is. Right, that's the mix that

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Speaker 1: know it has to be fifty one percent corn by law.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know the laws and the rules and

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Speaker 1: regulations around bourbon, get our book Let's Go Bourbon. It's

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Speaker 1: Tips and tails from the pit. Talk to me about

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Speaker 1: the nose on this Fingersma.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you said the theory on the

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Speaker 3: mash bill was seventy two percent corn.

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Speaker 3: And because on the nose fifteen percent rye, that's what

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Speaker 1: They say fifteen percent multi barley.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well there there definitely is not a rise by

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Speaker 3: some on the nose, that's for sure. It's very sweet,

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Speaker 3: it's but there's an ethanol on the nose a little

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Speaker 3: bit little, a little bit, little bit, little.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting oak.

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Speaker 3: And for some reason, I'm talking directly into the glass

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Speaker 1: Let your bourbon know you love it.

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Speaker 2: I love I love you.

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Speaker 1: How have you?

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Speaker 2: Ben?

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Speaker 1: Dude? That is that is big.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. I'm not getting much.

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Speaker 1: Ethanol, big giant nose. It is. It is sweet, it is.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely sweetness. Definitely a brown sugar in there for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe a little bit of caramel, caramel, brown sugar, oak.

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Speaker 3: And man, I'm getting my nose really in there. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit of that ethanol you're talking about,

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Speaker 3: But it's not hitting me in the face.

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Speaker 2: Is it hitting in the face?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're you're right there. There is a nice

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it is a very very pretty color.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready for this all week.

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Speaker 1: This is town branch, the true cask straight bourbon. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You want to now do what fingers moy is doing.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Kentucky chew. You can move the juice

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's it's There's a nice little bit of spice there,

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Speaker 3: There's a nice bit of sting on the tongue. But

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Speaker 3: It's it's got quite a few notes that appeal to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I am going in on this one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twelve proof right here. Now? Wait is it? Let me

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Speaker 1: let me douttle check. Hold on because each each strength,

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely right. This the one I grabbed right here,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen point six, not one hundred and twelve.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you can figure out the difference

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Speaker 1: We'd like to hire you for each drink smoke right here,

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Speaker 1: because this is batch ten, and each batch, depending on

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Speaker 3: So I've heard Batch ten is a little bit better

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Speaker 1: I'm going in. I'm not even gonna, not even gonna

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Speaker 1: the town branch, true cask, Kentucky straight berman here I go.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's going in, ladies and gentlemen. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: the warmth has built up in the chest quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: He's doing what we like to call the Saganaw swish,

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Speaker 3: he's doing the Kentucky chew, the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp.

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Speaker 1: Oh you ha ha smoth wow, uh huh oh, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot happening. Oh my, oh my, go on, what's happened?

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Speaker 1: That is so much ha ha, That is so much

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Speaker 1: sweeter when it first goes down. And now there's the

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it's weird. I literally said the words.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there's a viscosity that is molasses,

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Speaker 3: What amazes me about this is, you know, the the

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Speaker 3: I tried mine three minutes ago, and I'm getting more

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, this is a day of bit you know what.

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Speaker 1: I feel the extra two point six proof now you

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Speaker 1: feel every single bit of that. Oh this might be

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Speaker 1: I think people are gonna fall in love with it.

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Speaker 1: You like big? This is way, this is way bigger

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Speaker 1: than I thought. Without being overly offensive to steal a

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Speaker 1: line from you, daddy, like this is interesting, town branch.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more into this. Keep it here. So in

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Speaker 1: have stabilized at the higher price, there are things still growing,

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Speaker 1: and shockingly, one of those things is cigars, tea, drink, smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers malloy, cigar fishing, Nada.

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Speaker 1: With the story David Savona reporting first quarter imports of

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Speaker 1: cigars to the US up seven point two percent over

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Speaker 1: the first quarter of twenty twenty four. I have thoughts

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Speaker 1: because that number is giant, ninety three million cigars compared

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I would be interested to know when the

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Speaker 3: probably has I don't know, close to one hundred cigars

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Speaker 3: right I have not been lately going out and purchasing

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Speaker 1: Last Absolutely, every price is higher, Every single price is higher.

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Speaker 1: It's not even a debate, and I think that you

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Speaker 1: three four five sticks. You have to move the product,

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Speaker 1: so it definitely has a shelf life, Let's say, compared

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Speaker 1: to I don't know an orchid, but you I don't

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Speaker 1: I can still have a cigar in my home on

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Speaker 1: my entertainment and that's where I'm gonna spend it. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'd be interested. I would love to talk to a

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Speaker 3: few lounge owners who allow you to bring your own

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Speaker 3: are doing that more. You know, I saw a discussion

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Speaker 3: cigar smokers talking about lounges charging cutting fees. If they're

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Speaker 3: maybe people want to still have that sense of community

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Speaker 3: going to the lounge, but they're bringing sticks from home

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Speaker 3: more as opposed to buying cigars from the lounge.

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Speaker 2: They still want that.

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Speaker 3: That scene of being in a cigar lounge, but maybe

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Speaker 3: are they willing to pay the cut fee. I'd be

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Speaker 1: Smoking the fifteenth anniversary from Room one oh one Cigars

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Speaker 3: Oh Episode three fifty Clarkson he drinks smoke.

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Speaker 1: something that makes you go, is this in your liquor cabinet?

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely in your liquor cabinet for forty five bucks.

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Speaker 1: For other people, there's no I'm not pulling this out.

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Speaker 1: that we can help with any fundraising that we can do,

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Speaker 1: we will come down. We will do the show a

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Speaker 1: live We will pay our own way for this. We

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Speaker 1: will take we will take care of it. That you

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Speaker 1: just recommend to us a good barbecue place. That's all

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Speaker 1: we ask. We will We're happy to because uh, there's

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Speaker 1: there's the conversation of if you want your politics to

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Speaker 1: rule your life or if you want your humanity to

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Speaker 1: rule your life. And I'm not saying there aren't gonna

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Speaker 1: be serious questions asked. The evacuation plan was approved for

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Speaker 1: that camp that was right there on the banks two

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Speaker 1: days before this flood hit. You have Austin police, that

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Speaker 1: Austin Fire that did not give assistance. There's a whole

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Speaker 1: no confidence vote going on as soon, if not by

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Speaker 1: the time you already hear this with the Austin Fire chief. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's real stories here of possible mistakes, of possible what

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Speaker 1: in the world were you thinking? And of course just

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Speaker 1: an act of God. I mean, floods do happen.

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Speaker 2: In this area.

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Speaker 3: You can't mistake playing politics with asking honest questions about

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Speaker 3: leading up to this flood and then the response afterwards.

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Speaker 3: Those are questions that need to be asked, maybe a

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Speaker 3: little later, not right now.

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Speaker 1: Anything we can do at Eat Drink Smoke to help,

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Speaker 1: We're there. Just ask We're in reach out now. If

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Speaker 1: you have been following Eating Smoke at all, and you

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Speaker 1: should at eatingsmokeshow dot com and of course the podcast

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Speaker 1: wherever it is you get your podcast. You know that

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Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy has been moving its featuring smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That is Fingers Maloy again, eatingsmokeshow dot com and get

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Speaker 1: the podcast wherever it is you get your podcasts, download, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: do all the things would you please? And it has

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Speaker 1: not been a It has not been the smoothest move. No,

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Speaker 1: he foolishly moved himself. Yes, and he is what we

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Speaker 1: call in the business a moron. Yes for doing so. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love you. It's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: years of friendship that you moved yourself as insane. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you just say yes, when you're as strong as

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Speaker 1: an ox like I am, just say you were okay,

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Speaker 1: I was wrong, but in the middle of the move,

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Speaker 1: because that's not stressful enough, that's not insane enough. This

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Speaker 1: would be a good point to mention that Fingers Maloy

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Speaker 1: has a cat family cat. Now I noticed, I said

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Speaker 1: has because the worst did not come. This happened. He's

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Speaker 1: started telling me the story. I said, oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: save this Retrinx smoke Nation. He says, the cat wasn't peeing,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I said, Shush, you just hush yourself.

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Speaker 1: You hush yourself. You bring that to the nation, and

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Speaker 1: you explain this story. You're in the middle of the movie.

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Speaker 1: You don't have all your stuff there. You still got

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Speaker 1: to get the other house and get it on the

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Speaker 1: market and everything else. And all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: cat turns to you and says, Dad, assuming that's the cat, said,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe this exactly what happened. So we

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Speaker 1: adopted this cat five years ago, hard luck case, nine

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Speaker 1: year old tabby cat, whiskers prickly Pete. I'm listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to use the real cat's the cat's real name,

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Speaker 1: because I'm getting into a medical history and the cat

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Speaker 1: deserves privacy. Tony, I just want you to know I've

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Speaker 1: no fingers, only my whole life. First time I ever

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Speaker 1: knew he had a cat. I've been to his house.

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Speaker 1: I had absolutely no idea there was a cat. I

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Speaker 1: never know I have I stepped on the thing. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. Like, I feel awful. It was you

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Speaker 1: that was not me.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, so, prickly pe, prickly pete. It has been

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Speaker 3: off since we moved. And it can be a traumatic

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Speaker 3: experience for a pet to be moved to a different house.

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Speaker 3: You actually have to introduce the cat to its new environment.

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Speaker 3: You leave them in a room for a day or two.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can get angry ornery. They may try to

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Speaker 3: mark their territory. Oh that stinks, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's possible.

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Speaker 3: So but he was whining a lot, and then we

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Speaker 3: noticed that he was a few nights ago in pain

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Speaker 3: and very lethargic. And I can spot something lethargic from

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Speaker 3: a mile away. That's my middle name, right. So he's

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Speaker 3: laying on his side, it's eleven o'clock at night, he's

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Speaker 3: moaning in pain, and Missus malloy notices in his litter

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Speaker 3: box that there's no evidence of any.

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Speaker 1: Pee.

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Speaker 2: The cat is moaning, yes, and so.

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Speaker 3: So Missus Molloy and my daughter take the cat to

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Speaker 3: the er, to the vet er, and they're in there,

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Speaker 3: and they're in there for several hours.

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Speaker 2: They have to wait.

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Speaker 3: I guess they were in the other room there was

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Speaker 3: a gecko with gallstones or something, I don't know. And

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Speaker 3: they're waiting there very patiently. And I'm thinking at this point,

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Speaker 3: the cat is fourteen years old. Now I'm told Tabby's

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Speaker 3: can live to be twenty, okay, but I'm thinking, in

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Speaker 3: my mind, fourteen years old. That's a that's a heck

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Speaker 3: of a run right there. All right, right, I'm thinking, okay,

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Speaker 3: it's it's curtains for prickly pete.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They examine the cat and uh they give us three options.

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Speaker 3: Uh the cat has a bladder obstruction. One of the options, tony. Uh,

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Speaker 3: there were well, there were three options. One uh put

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Speaker 3: the cat down, Oh good lord, yeah. Uh. Two was

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Speaker 3: they would stick a catheter in the cat, uh anesthesia

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Speaker 3: uh and uh release whatever urine is in the bladder.

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Speaker 3: The third option, which uh the the the the doctor

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Speaker 3: uh the people over in the office suggested, was to

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Speaker 3: do all that and then keep the cat for three

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Speaker 3: days for observation, uh, to make sure that everything was

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Speaker 3: was okay.

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Speaker 2: And if they had to.

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Speaker 3: Evacuate the bladder again, you know, the cat would You're

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Speaker 3: right there in their little hospital room there. That option, Tony,

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Speaker 3: was six thousand dollars for a fourteen year old cat

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Speaker 3: cat six grand Tony, I just want.

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Speaker 1: To interject right now and say, this is why I

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Speaker 1: don't have pets, and this is why I was able

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Speaker 1: to look at my children and say, oh no, you're

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Speaker 1: not getting a dog. Now, stop mentioning it, go outside

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Speaker 1: and mow my lawn. At first I thought that that

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Speaker 1: conversation happened more than one, I bet well. At first

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Speaker 1: I thought that that.

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Speaker 3: Quote was outrageous, and then I realized it's not outrageous

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Speaker 3: because there are people out there who would spend six

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now my question to you, Tony and each rink smoke Nation.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the cat is still alive. We chose

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Speaker 3: option two, which was okay, clean the cat out and

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Speaker 3: then we'll at home and will observe the cat ourselves,

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Speaker 3: which cost dozens of dollars as opposed to five to

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Speaker 3: six thousand dollars. But if it comes to the point

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Speaker 3: where it's a five or six thousand dollars hospital bill,

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Speaker 3: for a cat. And and by the way, I don't

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Speaker 3: know the condition of the gecko with the golstones. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that he pulled through. Am I the worst person

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Speaker 3: in the world to think five or six thousand dollars ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Even the cost of what we paid to do that procedure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into how much it was.

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Speaker 3: All I can tell you is, with the amount of

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Speaker 3: money I spent, I could have bought a new cat. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you are going to get so now that's getting emails.

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Speaker 3: Could have bought a new cat.

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Speaker 1: Listen carefully. I don't care what anybody says. Economic reality

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Speaker 1: is economic reality, and there are things you simply knot

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Speaker 1: forward to do, even if you love your pet, even

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Speaker 1: if you're good to the pet, even if you just

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Speaker 1: like the pet. Sure, there are people out there who

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Speaker 1: will spend unlimited amounts of money on their pet. And

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Speaker 1: some of it is, like one could argue, rational, they

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Speaker 1: have the money. Some of it is irrational because they

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Speaker 1: have an irrational connection to the pet. And some people

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Speaker 1: just really love their pets and this is what matters

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Speaker 1: to them, et cetera. It doesn't make you a bad

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Speaker 1: person if you don't spend six thousand dollars. It just doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it just doesn't. That's real money. You did

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Speaker 1: the option, that makes sense. You didn't say, well bye cat.

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Speaker 1: You had the you didn't, though you have thought about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's you know, like I said, missus Malloy's at

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Speaker 3: the hospital, I'm a bad sleep and you know, the

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Speaker 3: teenage daughter is sitting there going, we're not gonna put

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Speaker 3: down Prickly Pete, are we right?

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Speaker 2: And then you're in a terrible situation where.

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Speaker 3: You're like, listen, we all love Prickly Pete, but Prickly

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Speaker 3: Pete is fourteen years old, had a great run. Six

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Speaker 3: grand is ridiculous. It's it's for us, it's ridiculous. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm not criticizing anyone who would spend that kind of

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Speaker 3: money on their pet. God bless you. But we we

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Speaker 3: chose option too, and again we for the price that

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Speaker 3: we could have bought a new cat, but we didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I also would have done option too.

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Speaker 1: I would. First of all, you would you at least

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Speaker 1: try you alleviate the pain, and you at least try

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Speaker 1: right that that that's I think that's the only rational

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Speaker 1: choice to make. And if there had been other issues,

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Speaker 1: then maybe option one would have been the option, because

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Speaker 1: that's also a humane thing to do in certain circumstances.

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Speaker 3: I'm just sorry I didn't go because I would have

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Speaker 3: loved to have seen what a veterinary er looks like.

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Speaker 3: Is it like the whole Seinfeld thing with the squirrel

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Speaker 3: where they have tiny little instruments?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. No, no, there's so

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Speaker 1: many emails coming your way. That's Fingers at EA Drink

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Speaker 1: smokeshow dot com. But I want it known Fingers did

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Speaker 1: the right thing, and that cat is alive and well

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Speaker 1: and prickly Pete, we love you, It's true.

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Speaker 3: And he's peeing freely now oh on the new carpet.

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Speaker 3: Not yet, Day's nine O, and then option three will

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Speaker 3: be available at that point.

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Speaker 1: but it's it's it's way too big for me.

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Speaker 2: For the record, I wouldn't kill a cat over a

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Speaker 2: little bit of cat pon the carpet.

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