1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: It's a big one today. For some, it is a 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: day that dreams are solidified and made. For others, it 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: is a day where you just hope that you don't 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: get a knock on the door and that the coach 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: isn't requesting a playbook. It is roster official day, if 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: you will, four o'clock today, correct, Eddie Garrison. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Yep, that's accurate, Jake. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Four o'clock today is when the Indianapolis Colts and the 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: other teams of the National Football League must make their 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster official. Get the decisions. And there 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: are already some names that are being leaked out there, 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: if you will, or being announced as those who have 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: not made the roster for the twenty twenty five Indianapolis Colts. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: And there are a couple actually that are of some surprise. 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: We will get to that in just a moment, but 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: let's start by saying good afternoon to you and thank 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: you for listening to Quarry Company. My name is Jake 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Quary Eddie Garrison, the other voice that you just heard 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: on this program, and I want to thank right off 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the top, not just Chicago's Pizza down in Greenwood for 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: hosting us yesterday, for our Quarry and Company Fantasy football draft, 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: but also those who showed up, and it was fun. 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: It was great to meet everybody and shoot the ball. 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: And some took longer than others to make their selection, 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: but for the most part, really a pretty quick draft 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: and fabulous pizza to be had. And the one thing, 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Eddie that I will say yesterday in doing that and 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: this is something for which I am most appreciative and grateful, 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: and that is we just got a lot of good 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: dudes that listen to this radio show. Yes you know 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yes, you know. Everybody got along and 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: cracked a couple jokes, and you know, for the most 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: part it is pretty quiet. Though it was I was like, 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: this is like a legitimate war room. Everybody was hunkered 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: down over their laptop, their phone or whatever else making 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: their picks. Yeah. 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was, but somebody walked in 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, I thought this would have 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: been a much louder Bauck Jarry. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: It was Brian that came in. Brian was a great 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: guy and really enjoyed talking to him. Talked to him 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: for a while in the parking lot afterwards, and enjoyed 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: that and really everybody you know sitting there. Derek was great. Derek, 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: who is a North Central Panther, was there. Casey is there, 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: the pride of Martinsville. It was great, just just shooting 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: the bowl with everybody and getting the selections made. So 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: thank you for all who came out for that. And 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: we will certainly keep everybody up to speed on what 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: happens with our fantasy league over the course of the year. 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: But let's get right to it, Eddie, if you happen 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: to have the breaking news sounder, we will get to it. 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: This through the combination of essentially Joel A. Erickson as 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: well as James Boyd. They are the first two that 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: have report to most of these these players apparently have 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: not made the roster for the Colts this year. All 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: of this within the last couple of hours. Wesley French. 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: That's a bit of a surprise to me because what 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: do I say, cell phones, cell phone chargers, and sunglasses. 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: That's offensive line in defensive backs, you can never have 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: too many. And Wesley French is a guy that I 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: think can play kind of a variety of areas on 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Colts. And it looks like 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Wesley French not going to be on the roster. He 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: also has had injury issue. Don't get me wrong during 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: the time as a cult, but he is one that 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: did not make the roster. Coleman, Owen, Trey Washington, Austin 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: and Jakie the linebacker. Linebacker is an interesting one, especially 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: in lou An Arumo's defense, because it feels like it 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: has become devalued. Position is maybe the wrong way of 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: saying it, but simply a position that is more fungible 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: perhaps than it used to be. It looks like Jalen 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Carlys could go to IR with the opportunity to return. 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: And then I think the big one so far, and 74 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: that's the fact that Jeelanni Woods the tight end. We 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of knew this was going to be the case, 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: but it looks like in a very crowded and to 77 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: some extent parallel among player to an extent of what 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: they bring to the table, looks like the odd man 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: out is going to be Jelanni Woods for the tight ends. 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: He is not going to make the roster. It would 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: appear now question also becomes Eddie and we had talked 82 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: about it, for example Riley Leonard and maybe I'm making 83 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: too much of this, because I don't think Riley Leonard 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: is a guy that they are intending to have take 85 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: a single snap this year. But if Riley Leonard showed 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: enough that the Colts simply want to get a better 87 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: look for future purposes, just in an a depth roll. 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: If that's the case with Riley Leonard, then they that 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: could come at the expense of a roster spot elsewhere. 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: And it is perhaps the case, maybe not with Jelanni Woods, 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: but say Wesley French, you know, is that a position 92 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: where it looked like he was going to make the 93 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: roster and then they're like, you know what we've we 94 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: want to make sure that we are protecting, say at 95 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback spot three deep, so we need a roster 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: spot somewhere, and then boom, that becomes expendable. I'm using 97 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: simply the quarterback as an example there. But you get 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, m h, I get what you're saying. 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And uh, I don't know, like, are we wasting 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: our time talking about and Jake, that's the biggest question 101 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: I have, Like I understand that some fans out there like, hey, 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: this guy should have, you know, a chance of being 103 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: the QB two behind Anthony Richardson. But you also also 104 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: have to keep in mind this, Jake. The Colts felt 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: the need to rest Richardson in that final preseason game 106 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: so that either he didn't get hurt because he's valuable 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: to them at some point during the regular season, or 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: just because of the fact that I didn't want him 109 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: to get hurt in rely on Sam Ellinger being your 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: backup quarterback. 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: You mean Riley Leonard, That's what I meant. Yes, sorry, 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: or let me throw the option three. The Colts have 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: relegated themselves to the fact that there's nothing else to 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: see out of Anthony Richardson because they know what he is. 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Maybe and I again, I'm going to go with this 116 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: not to be contrarian to your to your point, because 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong. I mean, we don't know, 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: but I do believe this, and I will. Younger me 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: would would not have said this, because I would have 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: been like or rather would not have admitted when I 121 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: was wrong. I'm going to make a statement and I 122 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: will gladly admit if I am wrong in this, because 123 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want to be right and I have. 124 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: I want to make very clear here I have nothing 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: but tea leaves. I have nothing to base this on 126 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: but phone calls and foot lockers. But I and I'm 127 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: sure as I am as sure as the fact that 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: today is Tuesday. I am sure as about this as 129 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I am the fact that it is a beautiful day outside. 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm as sure of this as I am about the 131 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: fact that everybody enjoyed the Chicago's pizza last night. I 132 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: am sure of the fact that the Colts have come 133 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: to the conclusion that Anthony Richardson is what he is. 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: I think they are past the point of waiting. If 135 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: they thought there was something there to be a long 136 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: term quarterback for them, he would be on the field. 137 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: There is you could go from. If Anthony Richardson you 138 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: put him out there because you still feel that there 139 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: is untapped potential and he doesn't play well, you can 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: go to Daniel Jones at that point, and Daniel Jones 141 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: can still get you what you're going to get out 142 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: of him, because he's been around, he's been a starter, 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: he's been a backup, all of it. Richardson because of 144 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: where and how you acquired him as a top five pick, 145 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and I know that he's young. I get all of that, 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I totally get it. But if they thought there was 147 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: a glimmer of something that could be had out of him, 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: he would be on the field. Because I don't know 149 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: how you go to Richardson now in any way other 150 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: than he is strictly the backup to keep the seat 151 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: warm until Daniel Jones is again available. Now I say that, 152 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: and I understand things change if Daniel Jones goes out 153 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: and in week three suffers a knee injury where he's 154 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: going to be out five weeks, and then Richardson comes 155 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: in and suddenly becomes, you know, the guy that they 156 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be. That changes things. I 157 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: get that, But I truly think that at this point 158 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the Colts have resigned themselves into believing that that player 159 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: is not there and that they can't get it out 160 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: of him. No one has told me that. I hope 161 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I just don't know how you can conclude 162 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: when you look at this anything other than that. And 163 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I go back to this point, which I've made before, 164 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: but I'll make it again. Realistically, at the time that 165 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was selected, and at the time that Anthony 166 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Richardson became a starter as a rookie. The person who 167 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: was making every last final decision where the Bucks stopped 168 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: was with the late Great Jim Ersay. In the time 169 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: that Jimmersay has been the highest rung total voice of 170 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: authority within the Colts organization. They have had two previous 171 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: players that were selected as quarterbacks within the top four 172 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: picks that they handed the keys to, and it's Peyton 173 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Manning and Andrew Luck. And Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck 174 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: have one thing in common. Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck 175 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: were bottle fed by guys that had an NFL playbook. 176 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: In the other hand, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck were 177 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: tucked into bed by guys that got home late that 178 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: night because they were in the film room. Peyton Manning 179 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck went to bed listening to watting or 180 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: analyzing with a flashlight once the parents said it was 181 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: time to turn the light plays that their dad were 182 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: running in the NFL or in college. And Andrew Luck's case, 183 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: he was following his dad to Europe in the World 184 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: League and watching the World League of American Football that 185 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: ISA was in charge of. And then they went to college. 186 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Both Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and played a ton 187 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: of college games, and when they got to the NFL, 188 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: they were plug and ready to play. Now that's not 189 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: to say they didn't struggle. Peyton Manning in particular, he's 190 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: through more interceptions as a rookie than any quarterback in 191 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. But Peyton Manning knew from 192 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: a very from the time he came out of the womb. 193 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: He saw. When Peyton Manning was like two years old, 194 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: he was interviewed by some TV guy that says, Peyton, 195 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: who's your favorite player? Dad? He'd been around in the 196 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: NFL his entire life. And I think that Jim Mersay 197 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: at no fault of Jim Irsay, I understand it, but 198 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: I think that Jim Mersay just thought, See, when you 199 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: have a player that is a top five pick you've 200 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: got the only way to prepare them is to throw 201 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: them to the wolves. And Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: could handle that because they are the point zero zero 203 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: one percent of players that had that sort of a pedigree. 204 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: And Anthony Richardson wasn't ready for it, and they threw 205 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: him out there and it didn't go well, and he 206 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't learn because he was sitting there just trying to 207 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: count the arrows flying past him. And then they said, okay, 208 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: now we're going to put you on the sideline and 209 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: have you watched from there? And then he came back 210 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: in and then he had you know, he got hurt, 211 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: and the helmet tap and all that. There's just too 212 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: much history there, and I truly do believe that they 213 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: now have come to that conclusion this is our guy. 214 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: And then Richardson, you know, and we'll see Richardson may 215 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: well be the starter by week five or he. I 216 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be traded, but he could be right. 217 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: A million ways that you can look at it, a 218 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: million ways that you can look at it. And he 219 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, By the way, I wore 220 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: this last night for the draft, and I'm curious. I'm 221 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: wearing how would you describe the jacket that I'm wearing? 222 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Is it just a it's. 223 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: An Adidas jacket jake with eu oasis? 224 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, like, do you list this as sec 225 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: sweat jacket, like a a zip up a. 226 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: Hoodie warm up jacket, warm up jack? 227 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: Ok? 228 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: So this here's what I want to know. Which looks better? 229 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: You are the hip fashionable guy? Oh? 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: Shoot, really wait. 231 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to these collars, the zip up collars, 232 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to know this, Eddie. Here you go. You ready, 233 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: you have option number one and option number one zip down, 234 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: zip down, but the collars up. Option two is you 235 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: take the collars and you go like seventies with it 236 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: and you try to matt it down like this. Okay, 237 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: can you see option two? It doesn't really stay down, 238 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, it doesn't okay. And then option three 239 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: is the zip all the way up up against the 240 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the chin like that option one. Option one 241 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: is that that's the tom Selleck look. 242 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Either that or you go a combination between one and 243 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: three where it's like half. 244 00:13:52,840 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: Zipped right there. Yeah, no one, okay, anyway, it makes 245 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: for great radio. But we will over the course of today. 246 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line. Over the course of today, between 247 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: now and four o'clock, there are probably going to be 248 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: more whispers, more inklings, more leaks of players that are 249 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: going to be released for the Colts, and usually the 250 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Colts in the past, if precedent is any indication, we're 251 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: going to know at like five thirty what their rosters. 252 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't it last year? Am I hallucinating here? Somebody helped 253 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: me out. Was it last year where they were literally 254 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: like the last team to announce their roster? Am I 255 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: correcting that very well? Could have been? I think that's right. 256 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think last year it was literally eight 257 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: o'clock before, like you know, people were like, what is 258 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: going on here? Why are what's taking so long? And 259 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: then finally they announced it. But we'll see what the 260 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: surprises are out there. Are there any other players, Eddie 261 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: that you look at and you go, you know what, 262 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if this one is a 263 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: quote unquote surprise on the Cult roster? 264 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, probably not not At this point, it just felt 265 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: like it was pretty easy to predict who would be 266 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: you know, waved or released or whatever the proper terminology is. 267 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: And there's not really anybody. Uh, they didn't just release 268 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: Crystal Minds. That's not surprising. They did bring them on 269 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: late in training camp. But that's another one. I haven't 270 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: really seen any guys that, you know. 271 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, Wesley French surprised me a little bit, right. 272 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: Ah, maybe, I mean you've got uh Bordolini and Pinter, Yeah, 273 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: I get that, but I Pincher is a little bit 274 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: more flexible. 275 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: You can play center. Sure, no, that's true. But okay, 276 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: what about this situation though? And this is where it's 277 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: it's because Pitcher can play a couple of different positions. 278 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: And I know that you're getting this. Maybe he gets 279 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: a little too dangerous to start analyzing it in these 280 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: sort of hypotheticals, But what what about the fact Let's 281 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: say that there is a game or a situation later 282 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: in there. Let's say Bordolini gets hurt, rolls his ankle, 283 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: and Pener is already giving you relief on another area 284 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: of the line. Do you have then you put Pener 285 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: in its center. You've got to then get other players 286 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: that give depth behind Penter at other spots. Right. I 287 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: just think French gives you because he is a guy 288 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: that has experience on the line. My personal thought is, 289 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: and maybe he doesn't have good experience on the line, 290 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: but my personal thought is that is a position where 291 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: I would rather. I just don't think you can have 292 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: too many. 293 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Delton Tucker, who can probably play both fair guard positions. 294 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: That probably means he's. 295 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: He struggled last year at times, right, Yeah, I mean 296 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: I guess they all did it. The line offensive line. 297 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: To me, it just makes you wonder also, Jake, is 298 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: there gonna be a guy that they have out there that's, 299 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: you know, either a linebacker or offensive line that they 300 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, make another trade like they did yesterday, where 301 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: it's like a later round, you know, day three pick, 302 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: if it's a fifth, sixth or seventh round pick, that 303 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: of a guy that could be cut that they liked, 304 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: that they want to add for depth purposes. 305 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: So they went out and got and we were sitting 306 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: there in the middle of our draft and all of 307 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, Eddie says, the Colts just made a trade. 308 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: And everybody got excited, right like, oh yeah, who And 309 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: You're like, they just locked in Blackman in the defensive backfield. 310 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: It was like Julian and it's not right. Nope. 311 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Mackai Blackman, a former third round pick out of USC 312 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: rook here was twenty twenty three. He missed last year 313 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: with a torn acl but was promising in his reworks 314 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: forty one tackles, three tackles for loss of interception in 315 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: a fumble recovery. Started three games from Minnesota, but he 316 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: played in virtually all of them. Is a rookie, right, yeah, 317 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: played fifteen games and got three starts. 318 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: So he was probably and he's smaller than this, but 319 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: he's kind of like, what would you say, like maybe 320 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: what Isaiah Rodgers was for the Colts as a rookie, 321 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, a depth piece that got his number called 322 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: from time to time. But what's curious about that again, 323 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: and we talked about it yesterday with my chapel. When 324 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the roster comes down to fifty three, that's the fifty 325 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: three that are announced on that day. That does not 326 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: mean that's the fifty three that you're going to have 327 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: to start week one, because they will make changes as 328 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: other players are released. They're going to find guys that 329 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: they go, okay, well, that's and this, you know, Blackman 330 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: is an example of somebody that you give up a 331 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: sixth rounder for him. Is that because they feel that 332 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: they simply need depth at that position. Is that because 333 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: they simply are anticipating that somebody may be still as 334 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: dinged up and not going to be able to go 335 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and they want to have an insurance policy there, or 336 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: as it because they just don't like what they've seen 337 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: out of guys. Those are all questions that eventually Chris 338 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Ballard will answer, I would assume, But it is curious 339 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: that that is a listen. I'm not opposed to it. 340 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it anytime you go out and 341 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: get yourself depth of that position, because I think it's 342 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: just an area where you can use it. And in 343 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: addition to that, Chris Ballard when it comes to the 344 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: corner area, I'll give him benefit of the doubt. I 345 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: don't think that Ballard has been a great talent evaluator 346 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: in terms of defensive line or pass rush, because if 347 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: you look at players that he has taken in high position, 348 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, Dio comes to mind. He was a good player. 349 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: But again, you try to keep your own in house 350 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: if you find them to be beyond simply a good player, 351 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and you know that's one that obviously they let go. 352 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: But if you look at the resources that he is 353 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: put into defensive line seemingly over and over each and 354 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: every year, that's one area where I don't know that 355 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: he's gotten it right. But at corner, I go back 356 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: to a year ago corner in safety, both they took 357 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: chances on guys like Nick Cross, who they took as 358 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: a third rounder, and they did so based strictly on 359 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: his athleticism. They loved the fact that he had ranged 360 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: and was a great athlete, but hadn't instinctively learned the 361 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: position yet. And there were a couple of other areas 362 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: maybe where the eyebrow was raised. But Ballard, to me, 363 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: does earn benefit of the doubt based on this. It 364 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: was a year ago when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, look, 365 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: I have a defensive backend secondary room that in order 366 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: to properly evaluate and determine who all of these guys 367 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: are and what I have, they gotta play. I gotta 368 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: let him play. And so when we were a year 369 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: ago going who are these guys? It was like the 370 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: movie Major League? Who are these guys? They went out 371 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: and I thought, when healthy, some of those guys played well. 372 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: I thought, I really like Juju Brents. I do, and 373 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: I hope he makes the roster because health has been 374 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: an issue there and we haven't gotten a chance for 375 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: him to really show what he can do. But I 376 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: like him. I think he's got good size. I know 377 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: when I say he has good range seal like mel Kiper. 378 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to sell like mel Kuiper. I like 379 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: mel Kiper, but I don't want to sell like mel Kiper. 380 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: Whatever happened to that Todd mcshah Eddie, Oh Tod Todd 381 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Todd did he didn't he get I know that he 382 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: had some personal struggles. But is he still with ESPN? 383 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 4: Uh? 384 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: No, he was with the Raiders if you for a 385 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: while for a few years as a GM Todd McShay. 386 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: From ESPN. Wait, who am I thinking of? 387 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking to the guy from NFL. 388 00:21:54,359 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: Network, because Todd mcshae is the one that was He 389 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: was everywhere and then and ESPN does this a lot, 390 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: and then seemingly he was like invisible, but we later 391 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: found out. I think he had some personal challenges. I 392 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't begrudge him for that. I mean, I wish 393 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: him the best for that, but he so he when 394 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: that happened, he was kind of phased out and then 395 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: like I feel like for a while there he was 396 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: or wasn't brought back. I don't know, but it was 397 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Mayok That's who I was thinking of that. Yeah, Mike 398 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Mayok was the Raiders. Yeah. But either way, I think 399 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: that that Ballard gets some credit with defensive So when 400 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: he goes out and makes a trade on the eve 401 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: of the roster being finalized and gives up a sixth 402 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: round pick, for a guy that might be able to 403 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: give them something. I mean, you would hope if you 404 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: draft a player in round number six. Todd mcshay's with 405 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: the ringer, now the ringer, h Okay, when you draft 406 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: a guy in the sixth round, if you were to say, hey, listen, 407 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: this sixth round pick that you had is going to 408 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: play and appear in eight games, start one of them, 409 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: and take forty percent the snaps in the other seven games, 410 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: you'd probably take that sixth rounder. He makes the roster, 411 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: that's what he does. That's cool. So if you can 412 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: spend a sixth rounder for a guy that goes out 413 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: and brings you that much back, I think you're in 414 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. But we shall see what happens with that. 415 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: The fever and action coming up Seattle, correct, Eddie, Yes, 416 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: tonight at home gamebridge Fieldhouse. A big one, big week 417 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: for the INDIANAF You for Jake, it is a big 418 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: week and the injuries just keep piling up and there 419 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: are just a lot of question marks. And for those 420 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: questions we turn to the one that would know best. 421 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: Stephanie White joins us as she has been nice enough 422 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: to do each and every week during the WNBA season. 423 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: That conversation next, Steven Hole, we're on the program coming 424 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: up about thirty five minutes from now, about twenty minutes 425 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: from now. A dude I met over the weekend that 426 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: I said to myself, Dude, I do a radio show 427 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and you got to come on. And he said, let's go. 428 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, this guy's instant party. That 429 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: conversation in about twenty But Stephanie White Fever right now, 430 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: things kind of hanging in the balance for that postseason. 431 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: They got to write that ship, but they got to 432 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: get healthy. A lot of question marks, a lot of 433 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: questions hopefully answers. Next, it is not on a big 434 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: old Jenare liner, but rather right here at home. In 435 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: other words, the Fever aren't taking a plane to their 436 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: next game. They are at home tonight taking on the 437 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Seattle Storm. Seven o'clock tip. You can hear it right 438 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: here on this radio station. And for those of you 439 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: who are inevitably clamoring for more Eddie Garrison on your 440 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: radio airwaves, no worries. Six forty five pregame. Eddie will 441 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: have that duty before the game tonight. Joining us now 442 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: on the program is the head coach of the Indiana 443 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: fever Stephanie White, who requested Steve Miller last week when 444 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: we talked to her, I guess I'll begin with this. 445 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: When you were in high school true or false, Indiana 446 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Miss Basketball Stephanie White, while driving to school would be 447 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: listening to Steve Miller and thought for certain that he 448 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: was actually saying big old Jet got a light on? 449 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Yes or no? 450 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: No? 451 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 6: What who said jet? Who said get a light on? 452 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: You've never heard people always say one of the most 453 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: common So so let me ask you this. Give me 454 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: a song that you were singing along to the radio 455 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: your entire life, and then once like the advent of 456 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: the Apple iPhone lists the lyrics, you were like, oh 457 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's what the lyrics are. I've been doing 458 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: it wrong all this time. There has to be one 459 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: to remember. 460 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 6: Like back in those days, like the internet dialougu didn't 461 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 6: even come into play. 462 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: Until I was in college. 463 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 6: So by the time we got to the Apple iPhone, 464 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 6: the words coming lyrics coming across the Apple iPhone. I 465 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: mean that was just recently for me, right, Like I'm 466 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 6: so old school. 467 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: Oh it's mind blowing, I know, but. 468 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 6: I'm trying to think there have been a no you know, 469 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: probably tell me what you want in spice girls, right. 470 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 7: Something like that. 471 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a song for next week exactly all of them. 472 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 6: That go really fast and they caught of run together. 473 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 6: But jet air liner no, because I don't know if 474 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: you remember this, but I majored in aviation in college. 475 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh oh. 476 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: I was always like flying was always my thing. So 477 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 6: the jet air liner was definitely not one of those. 478 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: No way, okay, because those of us that don't have 479 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 1: the intellect of majoring and aviation always thought that it 480 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: was not always not a lot. But there are people 481 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: that joke that they that they sing along to it, 482 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: saying big old jet got a light on, because that's 483 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: what it sounds like you're saying. Now, I'm curious when 484 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: you were when you flew planes, because obviously for that 485 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: program coach at Purdue, you had to do like solo flights, correct, yes, okay, 486 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: more turbulence your first solo flight or the injury report 487 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: for the fever of the last six weeks. 488 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 6: The injury report for the fever over the last six weeks, 489 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 6: No doubt. 490 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: When you are flying a plane and there's turbulence, everybody 491 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: says to me that that's a pilot, They're like, look turbulence, Jake, Like, 492 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: as a passenger, I know it's unnerving, but like it's 493 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: not as smaller planes. I realize it's a little bit 494 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, trickier. But when you are coaching, and I 495 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: know we talked about this last week, you know, you 496 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: have to do this navigation of treading through and what 497 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: really has been almost unprecedented within this franchise of the 498 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: number of players that you've lost, but it's all been 499 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of in the same area in your back court. 500 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: So let's begin with this Caitlin Clark, I know now 501 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: is starting to kind of work out again. If you 502 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: had to target or benchmark where you are hoping to 503 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: be the area where she could return to gameplay, it 504 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: would be. 505 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 6: When I mean, we still haven't had a full practice 506 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 6: with her on the floor, and ideally we'd like to 507 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: get about five of those practices in just to make 508 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 6: sure endurance level, movement patterns, physicality, all of those things 509 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 6: are there for her, you know. So that's got to happen. 510 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 6: And so this week on the road, when we're out 511 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 6: west and being able to get some of those practices 512 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 6: in is going to be is going to be critical. 513 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: And I realize that you know, when it comes to injuries, 514 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: you're not the team trainer. I understand that stepan in. 515 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I can't remember if we talked about this last week, 516 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: but when you are looking at the overall movement and 517 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: just Caitlin Clark reacclimating physically back into the game, Originally 518 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: it was a groin injury, then we now know that 519 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: there was a bone bruise. I think in the ankle area. 520 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Is it one area versus the other that you guys 521 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: are targeting in terms of looking at in terms of 522 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: her comfort. 523 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: Level, I mean I think that for her right now, 524 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 6: it's I'm mostly focused on as a coach in durance 525 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 6: because being able to get up and down the floor 526 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 6: and run not just in straight lines, but run in 527 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 6: in movement patterns that she's going to have to withstand 528 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 6: ninety four feet pressure handling the ball, being able to 529 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: move on the defensive end of the floor. What I'd 530 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: don't want as a coach is if she's not ready 531 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: from an endurance standpoint, that they're setting her up for 532 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 6: more injury. I mean, she hasn't played ball in two months, 533 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 6: and so while the athletic training staff might be looking 534 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 6: at how quickly she's firing from a muscle standpoint, or 535 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 6: how sharper movements are from the bone bruce standpoint. I 536 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: want to make sure that she's physically fit enough to 537 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 6: with handle the pressure that she's going to have throughout 538 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: the course of however many minutes, she's able to play 539 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 6: in a ball game without setting her back, because again, 540 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: you know, I think from that perspective, it's the long 541 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 6: term health and wellness is the most important thing in 542 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 6: making sure that we're not going to put her in 543 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 6: a position that she's not ready to succeed in. 544 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: When you look at the players that you have been 545 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: able to acquire and plug in as you have lost players, 546 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: and again primarily in your backcourt, right when you look 547 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: at what Odyssey Sim's shape, petty aerial powers have been 548 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: able to do for you. Do you have to alter 549 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: at all the style of play that you're hoping or 550 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: that you have become a custom as a franchise to 551 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: play because of the new faces, or is it, Hey, 552 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: this is how we play, and this is how we 553 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: want you guys to be able to continue playing as 554 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: you yourselves gel with this new team. 555 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 6: It's a little bit of both. I mean, certainly we 556 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: have to scale back, you know, We've got to we've 557 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 6: got to simplify. You know, at this time of the year, 558 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 6: you'd typically be tweaking, adjusting, changing, changing the framework of 559 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 6: of what you do in terms of the way that 560 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 6: it presents in alignments and things like that. And we're teaching, 561 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 6: we're teaching, you know, two or three secondary actions that 562 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 6: we can run, two or three things that we can 563 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 6: get any offense. Because we're talking about primary ball handler 564 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 6: specific to shap Petty and Odyssey Sims who have not 565 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 6: been in training camp since April, who were just throwing 566 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 6: into the fire right now. So instead of instead of 567 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 6: tweaking and and adjusting and adding, we're simplifying and we're 568 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 6: going back to basics, and so we do it from 569 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: that standpoint, you know. But also so we have to 570 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 6: find a way as coaches to put those guys in 571 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: positions to be successful because they're different than CC and 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: Airy and SID and so being able to do a 573 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 6: little bit of both allowing them to do what they 574 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 6: do instinctually and naturally, because that's how we're going to 575 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 6: find success at this point for them, as well as 576 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 6: integrating them into what we have found success with as 577 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: a team, and so trying to find those things and 578 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 6: then building the chemistry and continuity in those actions. You know, 579 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 6: I think Odyssey has had three practices, and Shay's had 580 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 6: two practices, and Ariel got her first one yesterday. So 581 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 6: that's that's kind of the situation that we're in right now. 582 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 6: And you know, thankfully those three have had experience in 583 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 6: our league and have been able to come in and 584 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 6: be impactful, and now it's just how quickly can we 585 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: can we get it jailed and get it moving. 586 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Do you believe in momentum? I do, as do I 587 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I know some people do not, especially in the course 588 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: of a game. You know, there's there's two kinds of 589 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: moment the coach. There's there's game momentum where you can 590 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: just kind of feel things for one side or the other. 591 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: And then there's end season momentum when you look at 592 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: and I realize that injuries have been a major part 593 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: of this, yeah, but when you look at the way 594 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that your team is playing or right now having the 595 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: playoffs kind of hanging in that balance, you're a game 596 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: over five hundred, you got seven tough ones left. How 597 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: do you manage or manipulate the momentum. 598 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if you can manipulate it at all. 599 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: But you know, I even think back to these last 600 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 6: two games against Minnesota, and for the most part in 601 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 6: the game we had some momentum. It's when you give 602 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 6: it away to really good teams for those four to 603 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 6: five minute segments, they make you pay, and Minnesota did 604 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: that to us. Obviously, they're the best team in the 605 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 6: league for a reason. But I was pleased really with 606 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 6: how we played on the offensive end of the floor. 607 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 6: I mean, I thought we were efficient, I thought we 608 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 6: were affected. We got good shots, sometimes they went in, 609 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 6: sometimes they didn't. Oh you know, it's it then becomes 610 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 6: the defensive end of the floor and the consistency with that. 611 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 6: So I do feel like this next week is a 612 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 6: is a really great opportunity for us to gain some 613 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 6: some of that momentum, you know, certainly starting with tonight 614 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 6: against Seattle and then we go out on the road 615 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 6: and have it a couple of days with this group 616 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 6: to be able to have a couple of games and 617 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 6: I practice day to be able to build some of that. 618 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 6: It's a It's a critical time for us. There's no 619 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 6: doubt about it. You know, this team has been able 620 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 6: to show that they can put us in positions to win, 621 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 6: and now we've got to be able to get connected 622 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 6: to gain that momentum and be consistent on both ends 623 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 6: of the floor. 624 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: By the way, your degree from Purdue is in communications. 625 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 626 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 6: It is? Yes, two years in aviation and then two 627 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: years in communication. 628 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So how about that? Okay? And so graduation does 629 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: that mean? And I'm just curious does that mean essentially 630 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: that that you looked at it? And I'm not I'm 631 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: not taking anything away from your efforts, but the aviation 632 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: did you get two years into that and then say 633 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: this is really time consuming? I want to do something 634 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: that like a monkey could do and talking radio? Is 635 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: that what that's? Is that what this means? 636 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 7: It's not? 637 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 6: That is not I actually got two years into it 638 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 6: and realized it was much more of a hobby than 639 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: a career opportunity, and then change to communications, having no 640 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: idea what I wanted to do, certainly, but but yes, 641 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 6: that was it was not physical education, but it was communications. 642 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: Right. 643 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: What's the and pardon my my naivete on this, right, 644 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: with flight aviation, how far I assume that's a four 645 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: year program, correct, obviously, So if you were two years 646 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: into it, did you get into the actual substance of 647 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: it or were you still doing mostly pre rights In 648 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: other words, did you do much flying? 649 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 6: Of course we did flying on day one. I had 650 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: my license in first semester. 651 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: Really, now, how long does that license hold up? You 652 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: still have it? 653 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 6: I have a license, but I'm not current. You have 654 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 6: to you have to go up every three months. Well 655 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 6: at that time it was every three months to stay current. 656 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 6: And after I graduated from COW, I still went up 657 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 6: while I was in college with my buddies from flight school, 658 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 6: and not a little bit after college. But but after 659 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 6: I got into into coaching and finished playing, I hadn't. 660 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 6: I hadn't done that. But by the time I finished, 661 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 6: I had not. You know, when you get into that, 662 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 6: you know, year three, year four, you're you're talking multi 663 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 6: engine rating and then jet ratings, and then you're deciding 664 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 6: whether you want to go get the commercial route or 665 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 6: the private route. And I did not get into into 666 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 6: any of that. 667 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: So what's the biggest plane that you flew? And if 668 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: you did solo that you did. 669 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 6: Solo single engines like single engine Cessnaspipers. 670 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: So what's the furthest distance you flew? 671 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 6: When you do solo fights, they're they're pretty regional. So 672 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 6: I think the furthest one I did was from Purdue 673 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 6: to Bloomington, Normal, Illinois, up to Kalamazoo, Michigan, and then 674 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 6: back to Purdue. 675 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty impressive. I did you find And 676 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: I know that this sounds really dumb to ask, Okay, 677 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: but in any way, shape or form, did being an 678 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: athlete help you with that? Or vice versa? Because of 679 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: the fact that, like if you're reading instruments and whatever else, 680 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: you've got to make quick decisions. Your mind has to 681 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: process things did in any way, shape or form one 682 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: parlay to the other it did. 683 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 6: And doing things under pressure, like I remember there was one, 684 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 6: you know they call them cross country flights. You're not 685 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 6: really going across the country. One flight that I had 686 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 6: to Bloomington Normal and back and my alternator went out. 687 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 6: And so being able to just stay under you know, 688 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 6: stay calm under pressure, be able to go through the 689 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 6: checklist of hey, let's try to get this back, let's 690 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 6: see what's happening here, to be able to communicate or 691 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 6: not communicate with with with tower and go through the 692 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 6: entire process. Being able to stay calm under pressure and 693 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 6: being an athlete and being in those situations certainly helped 694 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 6: as well. 695 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: My alternator goes out, I go to AutoZone, right, I'm 696 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: not radioing into people to find out how to fly 697 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: a plant. I mean that truly is remarkable though. And 698 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: then my last thing on this, and I promise we'll 699 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: get back to basketball before we wrap here. Did you 700 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: find that most of the classmates that you had do 701 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: most of them go? I think we think to ourselves like, oh, 702 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: you go on from there and you either fly for 703 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: like FedEx or American Airlines. But you know, when you 704 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: look at you know, simple stuff in terms of like 705 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: agricultural aviation and things like that, is it all across 706 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: the board in terms of those opportunities, It is. 707 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 6: All across the board. And now a majority of them 708 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 6: do go commercial airline or private and charters. And in fact, 709 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 6: sometimes there would be I would be flying with with 710 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 6: places that I was coaching, and some of our charter 711 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 6: charter flight pilots would be people that I went to 712 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 6: flight school with, and so so yeah, there's there's a 713 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 6: lot of different areas that you can go into and 714 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 6: different directions that you can go. And you know, usually 715 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 6: by by sophomore year you're making those decisions, and as 716 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 6: you go into junior year, you're making those decisions and. 717 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 5: Where you want to go. 718 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 6: Now that was back in the old days. That might 719 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 6: be accelerated now. 720 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: My sophomore year at college, I learned how to balance 721 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: my checkbook. My parents were so proud. Meanwhile, you're you're 722 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: radioing in alternator problems in Bloomington, normal and dealing with it. 723 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: Very impressive. All right, seven o'clock tonight, it is Seattle 724 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: and the Fever at the field House as Indiana one 725 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: more time. Coach. In terms of Caitlin Clark, I want 726 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: to recap this. You'd like to see five practices out 727 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: of her and to see that endurance before you then 728 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: try to put her back out on the floor in 729 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: a game situation. 730 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, I mean for me, the endurance piece. We 731 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 6: want to get her into five practices before he put 732 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 6: her out there in a game for sure, just to 733 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 6: see where she is and handling the level of physicality 734 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 6: and making that making sure that she's ready. 735 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: And she's had how many so far? 736 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 6: No live practices so far? I mean everything that we've done, 737 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 6: has been has been basically like. 738 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: A shot round walk through. Is that kind of thing? Okay, 739 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: all right, coach, best of luck. We appreciate the time 740 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: as all right here, thanks you all right. Stephanie White 741 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: joining us on the program We Come Back. I was 742 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: walking Pitt Road over the weekend and saw a guy 743 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: standing there and I thought, this guy looks fun. I 744 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: want to know what his story is and talk to him. 745 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: And immediately said, dude, I do a radio show in India. 746 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: I want you to come on real quick and share 747 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: your story. And he said, add a problem. That's because 748 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: he's from Wisconsin and I'm making fun of the way 749 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: people talk up there. But he does have a Wisconsin accent. 750 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: But I promise it'll be a fun story. We will 751 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: get to that coming up in Steven Holder. What time 752 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: today for Steven Eddie? 753 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: We are chatting with the ESPN dot com. 754 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: Reporter for the Colts in fifteen minutes. All right, sounds good. 755 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: So over the weekend, I was in Milwaukee for the 756 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: IndyCar Race. Christian Rasmussen gets to win. But I'm walking 757 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: around and I see this guy. I kept kind of 758 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: bumping into this guy, and he looked like he was 759 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: having a good time. It's certain people you see and 760 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: you I always say, you can always tell when you 761 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: meet people. There's two kinds of guys in this world, 762 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: those with the program and those that aren't. And you 763 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: can just tell when a dude is with the program, 764 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: and you're like, that guy is the life of the party. 765 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: And he's wearing a Santino Ferrucci shirt's and he's walking 766 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: around and he looks very official. He's got a headset on. 767 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: So finally I ask somebody, I say, who's the new 768 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: like Crucie for Santina Ferucci And they said, oh no, 769 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: that's not Ferrucci, and they explain what he's doing there, 770 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: and I said, that is fabulous. And I went up 771 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: and talked to him and immediately said, this guy's fun. 772 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: So he joins us now on the show. Doug Gilman 773 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: is his name. He is a native of Wisconsin. And 774 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: when I say native Wisconsin, folks, I'm telling you, this 775 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: guy's like Badger through and through. I don't know if 776 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: he's a Badger fan or a Marquette fan. So well, 777 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with that. Doug, which Wisconsin team 778 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: do you pull for all of the Badgers, all of 779 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: the Badgers. That's a right of passage in Wisconsin, is 780 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: it not? 781 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 8: Unless you actually go to school at Marquette, I would 782 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 8: say ninety five of us percent of us are Badger. 783 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: Fan, okay, and then obviously it goes without saying. And 784 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, fortunately I didn't see you stripped down to 785 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: your skivvies, but if you did, most of you is 786 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: green and gold, right because you're a Packer fan. 787 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 9: Especially this time of the year. 788 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 5: Man. 789 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, kind of kind of born and raised and baptized 790 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 8: and grew up at Lambelefield, Yes. 791 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: Sir, okay. So I want to get to this, how 792 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: in the world did you become a guy? And I 793 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: know this answer, but I want you to share it 794 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: with with fans here of the radio program. How in 795 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the world did you end up wearing a headset and 796 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: following around Santino Ferrucci for the weekend at Milwaukee. 797 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 8: Well last year this passed June up at Elcott Lake 798 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 8: at Road America. After the race, Santino, who finished third, 799 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 8: ran out of fuel literally pretty much coming to the 800 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 8: checker flag and kind of coasted the car down to 801 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 8: the bottom of turn one and shut the car off 802 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 8: and got out of the car, and that day, if 803 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 8: any of your viewers remember, was almost one hundred degrees 804 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 8: up in Wisconsin and for for middle of June, that's 805 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 8: really hot. 806 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: And he got out of the car and just. 807 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 8: Absolutely looked exhausted and took a minute or two to 808 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 8: catch his breath. And then you know, it's a good 809 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 8: quarter of a mile from the bottom of turn one, 810 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 8: you know, back to Pitt Lane. So he just kind 811 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 8: of started walking by the fans and everybody's kind of, 812 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 8: you know, waving to him, and he's kind of interacting 813 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 8: just a little bit, and a fan of about thirty 814 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 8: feet down from me, uh asked him if he wanted 815 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,959 Speaker 8: a bottle of water, and he kind of waved it over, 816 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 8: and the guy chucked it over the fence and it 817 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 8: landed about, you know, twenty feet from from Santino burst everywhere. 818 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 8: You only got a gulp or two, and I kind 819 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 8: of looked over at my dad. I go, I think 820 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 8: he'd won a beer. So I yelled, hey, Santino, you know, 821 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 8: would you like a beer? And he and he waved 822 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 8: it over and kind of all in the split second, 823 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 8: I just reached into the cooler, grabbed one and kind 824 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 8: of grenade, shucked it over the fence and he the 825 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 8: guy made a phenomenal catch. I mean, I said, man, 826 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 8: he could, we could sign him up for the packers, 827 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 8: and uh, you know, just kind of pounded it and 828 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 8: you know, and I just thought that was it, you 829 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 8: know whatever, that's cool. And and here it come to 830 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 8: find out that you know, there was a Fox you know, 831 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 8: live camera, you know, at the bottom of turn one 832 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 8: and they actually caught the whole thing live after the race, 833 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 8: and uh, it just kind of kind of went from there. 834 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 8: So yeah, they you know, the team. Eventually, I just 835 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: I just did a simple post. Know I'm not a 836 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 8: big social media guy. I'm forty seven years old, you know, 837 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 8: I'm not a big you know, TikToker or whatever. And 838 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 8: it got picked up on Fox Sports and Indie Cars, 839 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 8: Facebook and stuff, and I just sit a simple comment like, hey, 840 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 8: you know what an awesome race and oh, by the way, 841 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 8: I was a guy that threw santino to beer. And 842 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 8: it just kind of went from there. And a couple 843 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 8: of days later, the amazing ladies at at Foyt Racing 844 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 8: reached out to me and it just kind of all, 845 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 8: you know, just all culminated and we we decided to 846 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 8: get together at the racetrack in August here in Milwaukee, 847 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 8: and it's just it was. 848 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: Just an awesome day. 849 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 8: It was amazing. 850 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: So when you when you're sitting there as a fan, Doug, 851 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: and you know you're at the race, You're with your dad, 852 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, it's what it's all about. Right, You're 853 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: at Rhoda of America, which is a great place. Wisconsin 854 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: fans are great. And now you find yourself wearing a 855 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: headset and down there, you know, in the pitstall for 856 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: Santino Ferrucci. How much did your perspective And I know 857 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: that you've been around Union, you were telling me you've 858 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of grown up around racing, But to be able 859 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: to listen to the radio activity. When I said radio, 860 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: I mean for Rouchie talking to his team and the 861 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: engineers and just kind of being on the inside like that, 862 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: how much more appreciation did you get for what all 863 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: goes into a race. 864 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 8: Oh, It's just it's just amazing. I wish every fan 865 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 8: could do that once in their lifetime. And the amount 866 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 8: of access they gave to us was was incredible. And 867 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 8: watching the teams pit the car, you know, four or 868 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 8: five times that day and all the analytics that go 869 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 8: into it, in the in the in the engineers and 870 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 8: and the whole process and the way that the pit 871 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 8: stops are you know, it's it's like it's like a 872 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 8: scripted play in football or something like that. And you know, 873 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 8: the the you know, the pre race they had their 874 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 8: you know, strategy meetings and stuff like that, and it 875 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 8: was just awesome. I mean, it was amazing the access 876 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 8: they allowed us, and and uh, while it was on 877 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 8: the radio, I I kind of just just wanted to 878 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 8: give a little shout out to everybody at a j 879 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 8: Floyight Racing and Mary and her mom, uh and that 880 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 8: kind of run their munications department. They're just the team 881 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 8: was just phenomenal. Got to meet both David Malucas and 882 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 8: Santino for a few minutes, and these guys are just 883 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 8: the whole team. It was just it was just an 884 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 8: unbelievable experience. The guys were just so great and and 885 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 8: the amount of access they gave to us. But yeah, 886 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 8: I wish everybody, you know, at some point could just 887 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 8: kind of just get an idea or. 888 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 9: An experience what what a race day is like. It's 889 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 9: it's it's ONNLEI w all hard these people work. 890 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: Now do you considerate do you consider Miller Lytton Broughts 891 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: to be two of the essential food groups? 892 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 8: I would say yeah, I said around here, you know 893 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 8: we I live ten minutes from Johnsonville Brots. I lived 894 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 8: ten minutes from Sergento cheese, and uh, you know on 895 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 8: Miller Lte of course is a staple and something that 896 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 8: we're known for around the world here in Wisconsin. So 897 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 8: I'd say, I'd say that is that is a food group. 898 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: Now listen, I want to know this dog. Doug Gilman 899 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: is our guest. Have you been to the Indianapolis five hundred. 900 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 8: I am not, sir, No, that's kind of a bucket 901 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: list first thing for me. I've been to the Brickyard 902 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 8: a couple of times, but I have not. Unfortunately up here. 903 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 8: Memorial Day weekend is kind of a kickoff to the 904 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 8: summer up here, and you know it's it's an up 905 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 8: north weekend and everything a family weekend, and so no, Unfortunately, 906 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 8: the Indy five hundred. I've been to Daytona five hundred 907 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 8: numerous times, but I have not been to the Indy 908 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 8: five hundred. 909 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: Okay, and I understand Doug the and you know you 910 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: mentioned your dad and everything else, and I certainly understand 911 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: the family aspect of Memorial Day weekend. Would you this 912 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: year be interested in attending the Indianapolis five. 913 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 4: Hundred I would. 914 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 8: I would be there in a heartbeat if the opportunity 915 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 8: was given to me. 916 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: Okay, what about this? What about this? And I can't 917 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: top the experience that you had with Santino along Pitt Road, 918 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: and at times I have auctioned this off. But so 919 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: I call turn three for the radio network. And up 920 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: there in the top of turn three, which I think 921 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: is the best vantage point, you can see three quarters 922 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: of the track. It's the biggest area that you can 923 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: see of the track. I need a spot I need 924 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: a guy in a spotter. The job not spotted cow, 925 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: which is another staple up there in Wisconsin. But I 926 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: need a spotter. And the spotter basically just stands next 927 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: to me and then if there's something that happens, hits 928 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: me in the arm and points that's that's really the 929 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: only responsibility of the spotter. But and it's a non 930 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 1: paid position, but you can put it on your resume 931 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: as an intern. Do you want to be a spotter? 932 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: For the Indy five hundred. 933 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 8: I I that's absolutely one selsand percent. 934 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I'm gonna get a hold of you. We're 935 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: gonna try to arrange it, and we're gonna bring you 936 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: here in May and maybe bring in studio and you 937 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: can bring some of that Wisconsin trom down here to Indiana. 938 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: We need all of it we can get. 939 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 8: I would be honored on the part of all Wisconsin 940 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 8: fans and race fans and sports fans are ound here. 941 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: I would be honored, all right. And lastly, can you 942 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: just give me your best go pet go go go? 943 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: All right, Doug, I'll get a hold of you, man, 944 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm being serious. I appreciate the time, and I'll speak 945 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: to you soon. All right, it's been a plugger. Make 946 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: you sure all right again? That's Doug Gillman, who, by 947 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: the way, owns a He told me it owns a 948 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: pub in Sheboygan, which I think means that we have 949 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: our dinner plans set for Road America next year. Speaking 950 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: of the pack, they along with the Colts, have to 951 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: come up with their roster, make it official by four 952 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: o'clock today. What will the Colts do in that regard 953 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: and what news do we have so far. Stevenholder ESPN 954 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: dot Com joins us to discuss next. There have been 955 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: no major surprises. Sometimes there are that have leaked out 956 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: in terms of players to be released from their prospective 957 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: NFL teams they were hoping to make the roster for 958 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: on this cut day. They have until four o'clock today 959 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: to make official. They're fifty three. Man. I guess if 960 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: there's one that was I mean, is this a surprise? 961 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito and with the New York Giants, he had 962 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: been kind of an overnight fan favorite a couple of 963 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: years ago when he got opportunity to play and played okay, 964 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: and then of course, you know, becomes like a Monday 965 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: night football darling. But he is one that found out 966 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: that he needs to go see coach and bring his playbook. 967 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Who will get that call for the Indianapolis Colts today. 968 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: Joining us now on the program Stephen Holder from ESPN 969 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: dot Com, who I would assume has a very busy 970 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 1: next twenty four to thirty six hours in front of him. Steven, 971 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: let's begin with this. Those so far that we either 972 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: know or strongly suspect are not going to make the 973 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: roster for the Colts include. 974 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 4: Who I mean. 975 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 9: I don't think any huge surprises so far. I mean 976 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 9: a lot of the very predictable names have leaked out. 977 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 9: I think the one and I'll tip my cap to 978 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 9: Joel Erickson at the Star for this one, it would be, 979 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 9: I guess at tight end. I think that would be 980 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 9: the one that we're talking about. And we're talking about 981 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 9: Joelni Woods there. Now, that was some people might be 982 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 9: surprised for that. I was not surprised. I thought that 983 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 9: was where that was going to go. I just thought 984 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 9: that other guys had a better camp. And I'm talking 985 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 9: specifically about really Will Mallory because I think that spot 986 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 9: really boiled down to that last tight end spot. I 987 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 9: presume it's the last one boils down to in my opinion, 988 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 9: Will Mallory or Jeelanni Woods. And I thought Will Mallory 989 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 9: was more consistent throughout camp and and probably has some 990 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 9: up some upside that he can tap into. He's he's 991 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 9: been healthier. Johnnie Woods has been hurt pretty much his 992 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 9: entire tenure in Indianapolis. So, I mean, I don't think 993 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 9: that was a really tough call for the coaches. I 994 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 9: thought that's the way that would go. But you know, 995 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 9: we'll see. The day is young, so we don't have 996 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 9: all the all the outcomes just yet. 997 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: Wesley French is one of the names that I have 998 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: seen leak out that surprised me a little bit because 999 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: it's at a position where depth is a your thoughts. 1000 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 9: So I thought that one. I kind of predicted that one. 1001 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 9: I think they have a little more interior depth than 1002 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 9: they do at tackle. They just do they have more 1003 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 9: depth inside than outside. I'm looking for my prediction that 1004 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 9: I did the other day. I had. Let's see, I 1005 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 9: did not have him online. I had I had Dalton Tucker. 1006 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 9: Maybe that was one for one there that spot, you know. 1007 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 9: And obviously Danny Pincher is another, uh, another interior depth player. 1008 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 9: So I think those would be my two interior backups 1009 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 9: just in my projection. Then I've got Jalen Travis as 1010 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 9: a backup tackle and then Luke Tanuda as also as 1011 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 9: a tackle. But I think I think that that offensive 1012 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 9: line group could be in flux. So what I mean 1013 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 9: by that is specifically the waiver claim situation, and I 1014 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 9: want to see whether that changes. Even after we get 1015 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 9: the final roster today at four o'clock, that could still 1016 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 9: be in flux. For the next twenty four hours because 1017 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 9: you have waiver claims. I think they are due by 1018 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 9: noon tomorrow, and then we would get some news tomorrow afternoon, 1019 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 9: generally speaking. 1020 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: Stealing that thatches. Let me ask you this two things 1021 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: for clarification here, okay, number one, and I'm just asking 1022 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: you to spitball off the top of your head. Okay, 1023 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: more often than not on average, Like let's say, in 1024 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: the time that you've covered the colts and you can 1025 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: include the bucks, you cover them as well. In this 1026 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: when a fifty three man roster is finalized, typically then 1027 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: over the course of the next couple of days, you 1028 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: see perhaps an acquisition of somebody who didn't make a 1029 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 1: roster elsewhere, and they say, oh, you know what, let's 1030 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: put that guy on our roster and thus release, you know, 1031 00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: player number fifty three. Typically, how many players on Week 1032 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: one on a fifty three man roster, how many of 1033 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: those fifty three are guys that were after cut or 1034 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: after finalization acquisition? Does that make sense what I'm asking? 1035 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, just basically, how many how much change do you 1036 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 9: see between. 1037 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: At the bottom of the roster you can anticipate how 1038 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: many guys being in limbo? 1039 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 9: I think that if you're among those final three or four, 1040 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 9: you probably got to keep your head on a swivel. 1041 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 9: That's just how it is. I mean a lot of 1042 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 9: times teams do have a pretty good sense of who's 1043 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 9: going to get cut somewhere else. It may be a 1044 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 9: situation where you know, they they have some intel or 1045 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 9: they just can handicap the roster. And these teams all 1046 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 9: scout each other's preseason games, so they know like who's 1047 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 9: playing with which group and all that, right, they have 1048 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 9: all the intels they see it, and then sometimes they 1049 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 9: actually talk to each other. So yeah, you do have 1050 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 9: guys that are targeted. There's there's no question that they 1051 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 9: target players who maybe they couldn't get them as an 1052 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,720 Speaker 9: undrafted free agent because they went somewhere else. And maybe 1053 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 9: the guy ends up getting cut. And there was a 1054 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 9: guy that they had their eye on as an undrafted guy, 1055 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 9: and then he becomes available at final cuts, well you 1056 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 9: take a shot at signing that guy. You know, sometimes 1057 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 9: you see guys at the bottom of the roster get cut, 1058 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 9: then they bring them back and put them on the 1059 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 9: practice squad, you know, maybe two or three days from now. 1060 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 9: That does happen a lot also injuries, you know, tend 1061 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 9: to play into it. You know, where what is your 1062 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 9: injury situation? You'll see some guys potentially today be put 1063 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 9: on IR, so you know that that always has some 1064 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 9: impact on how things go. What's your death light as 1065 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 9: a result of that? And when I say IR, I 1066 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 9: mean IR with the intention of bringing them back. 1067 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 1: Looks like he could be in that position, right, Yeah, that. 1068 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 9: Was trending that way. We just haven't seen him in 1069 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 9: a long time and it doesn't seem to be getting better, 1070 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 9: so that that's it looked like a blow initially, But 1071 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 9: they've had a couple of guys I guess step up 1072 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 9: at linebacker, and Joe Botchie in particular is a guy 1073 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 9: that you know, I certainly had no expectations for, but 1074 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 9: apparently he's he's at a good camp and I think 1075 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 9: he'll he'll end up playing. 1076 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to go back to this situation as well, 1077 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: and there's a reason I ask it, So work with 1078 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: me here, Steven. When Sam Ellinger was on the roster, okay, 1079 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: so we all knew. I mean with the exception of 1080 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 1: that like one weird year where it was like hey, boom, 1081 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: he's your starter instead of Matt Ryan. But you had, 1082 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: like last year, for example, you've got Joe Flacko and 1083 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and then Ellinger was there like a was he, 1084 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, the emergency quarterback or practice squad quarterback? Correct? 1085 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: Or was he on the fifty three man the whole time? 1086 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 9: He was generally on the fifty three man roster, but 1087 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 9: he was he was definitely the third quarterback. And they 1088 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 9: have altered that rule as of I think last year. 1089 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I wanted to clarify here, and my 1090 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: apologies if I'm asking about the elementary, but that rule 1091 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, the qualifying rule, and when it 1092 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 1: comes to quarterback and the quote unquote emergency quarterback, et cetera, 1093 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: that impacts a roster or that means what for a roster. 1094 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 9: So it is important because I think this I think 1095 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 9: you're actually, you know, leading up to Royley Leonard question here. 1096 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 1: Correct. 1097 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 9: So it matters a lot because I assume at least 1098 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 9: because that third quarterback, they are allowed to be activated 1099 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 9: on game day. Now the third quarterback. This is going 1100 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 9: back to the rule that we all grew up with, 1101 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 9: which is that third quarterback, he's available, he's dressed but 1102 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 9: he can only play if the second quarterback that the 1103 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 9: number two quarterback is not available, so the first quarterback 1104 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 9: has to go out of the game, the second quarterback 1105 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 9: replaces him, and then he becomes unavailable. That is the 1106 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 9: only scenario where that third quarterback designated third quarterback, that's 1107 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 9: the only situation where he can play. The reason you 1108 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 9: do it, though, is that it does not count against 1109 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 9: your allotted number of active players on game day, right, 1110 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 9: So that's the incentive. It's like, I can have this 1111 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 9: guy dressed and in uniform and he doesn't take away 1112 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 9: an extra special teams player for me, you know, among 1113 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 9: my active players. So it's handy that way, and I 1114 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 9: think that's why teams have, at least some teams have 1115 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 9: leaned toward going with that third quarterback because it doesn't 1116 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 9: hurt you on game day. If you have a situation 1117 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 9: where you have three quarterbacks but you don't have that 1118 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 9: allotment in the act the game day actives, you then 1119 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 9: have a spot where that third quarterback is taking someone's 1120 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 9: spot that you may need. This alleviates that problem. So 1121 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 9: there's really no disincentive unless you just can't afford him 1122 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 9: among your fifty three man roster. 1123 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: But so here's question. Yeah, Monday through Friday, that quarterback 1124 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: is where in terms of the roster. 1125 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 9: He's on the active roster. Okay, he's on the active. 1126 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: So he is. 1127 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 9: Fact. 1128 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: The reason I ask it is because you know, there 1129 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: was always that that I'm trying to think of a 1130 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Colts' recent history where this has been 1131 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: the case. But a guy that's on your practice squad 1132 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: then you activate him, you know, like on Sunday for 1133 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: the purposes of what we're talking about. Oh, PJ. 1134 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 9: Walker. Walker was that guy for like three years. 1135 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 1: But he is, He's exposed, He's left unprotected to think 1136 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: of expansion drafts, right, It would be my assumption that 1137 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: the Colts do not want to run the risk of 1138 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: leaving Riley Leonard unprotected after what they've seen from him. 1139 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: Not that they anticipate him playing at any point this year, 1140 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: but they don't want to. But but somebody else could 1141 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 1: and so therefore, if they like him, they have to 1142 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: utilize a roster spot for him in particular because and 1143 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: this is where I'm going with this, Steven, and then 1144 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: I want you, Stephen Holder of ESPN dot com, to 1145 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm way off base the possibility that 1146 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: if they think Riley Leonard could be a guy that 1147 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: could play a two to three game relief role for 1148 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: them at the backup spot, and they say, you know what, 1149 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: at that point, our years is probably over with any way. 1150 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: If we're having to go to that, then that allows 1151 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: them to make an in season trade of Anthony Richardson 1152 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: if they think that that's where that relationship stands. Now, 1153 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if I'm being way 1154 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: too Freudian. 1155 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 9: So I mean, in theory, yes, that is what you 1156 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 9: laid out is accurate in theory. Yes, I do think 1157 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 9: I'll start with this. I do think they are going 1158 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 9: to keep him on the fifty three man roster and 1159 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 9: he being right, and really that just Riley Leonard correct 1160 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 9: And that boils down to you know, you drafted him, 1161 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 9: you see some things in him that you like. He 1162 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 9: is not ready to play in my opinion, and I 1163 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 9: don't think the Colts district. I don't think he's ready 1164 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 9: to play. I saw every training camp practice. I think 1165 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 9: he's got a lot of rooms still that he needs 1166 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 9: to grow before you could even think about putting him 1167 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 9: out there. Now, as it relates to the Anthony Richardson 1168 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 9: part of your question. As we sit here today, the 1169 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 9: odds this is just based on what I know of 1170 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 9: the situation, which is a fair amount. Based on my 1171 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 9: read of the situation right now, I do not think 1172 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 9: he is likely to be traded. I think that is 1173 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 9: very unlikely right now. However, However, a couple of things. 1174 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 9: We haven't started the season. We have not seen Daniel 1175 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 9: Jones in regular season action. At minimum, you'd want to 1176 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 9: see how it's going with Daniel Jones, Okay, because the 1177 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 9: fact is. 1178 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: We still look. 1179 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 9: I know Shane Steichen is very optimistic about this, and 1180 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 9: that's great. I love that for him. Okay, but this 1181 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 9: is still Daniel Jones, all right. This guy has had 1182 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 9: a couple of really terrible seasons the last two years, awful, 1183 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 9: and there are mitigating factors. I am not going to 1184 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 9: dismiss that. 1185 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: For sure. 1186 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 9: The Giants have a lot of problems, but Daniel Jones 1187 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 9: was not good and that's just a fact. So they 1188 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 9: just see what he looks like and see if this 1189 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 9: is actually viable and workable, and then they know whether 1190 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 9: this is even something that they should even consider. The 1191 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 9: other thing is there is a recognition inside the organization 1192 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 9: that Daniel Jones too has some injury history, nothing to 1193 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 9: the extent of Anthony Richardson, but he does have some 1194 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 9: injury history and has missed games most seasons in his career, 1195 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 9: so that's something they are keeping top of mind as well. 1196 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 9: So I don't see him being moved right now, or 1197 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 9: at least they desire to move him, unless things just 1198 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 9: got nasty there and devolved. And I don't think we're 1199 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 9: there yet. I mentioned this yesterday, Steven. I get the 1200 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 9: impression when it comes to Anthony Richardson that the Colts 1201 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 9: are hesitant to even move on from him, not because 1202 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 9: they believe that he could still be a good player 1203 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 9: for them, but because they're afraid he would be a 1204 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 9: good player elsewhere. Well, it's always a bad look. I 1205 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 9: can say that, I don't. I really think it's a 1206 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 9: couple of things. Number One, they do like Anthony Richardson, 1207 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 9: but there's also this competing reality here which is developing 1208 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson. It takes time, and I don't think they 1209 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 9: believe they have time. It's very clear. And then frankly, 1210 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 9: it's very clear to me that Anthony Richardson's agent, who 1211 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 9: I've talked to obviously at length. I wrote a story 1212 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 9: with his comments last week. My impression from talking to 1213 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 9: him is that he thinks that Shane Steiken's mind was 1214 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 9: made up a long time ago, and I don't think 1215 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 9: that's a crazy theory. 1216 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. 1217 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 9: I actually, I'm gonna say this, I haven't said this publicly. 1218 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 9: I kind of agree with him. 1219 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 4: I do. 1220 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 9: I'm not saying that the competition was a sham, but 1221 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,959 Speaker 9: I think you obviously have a preconceived notion of where 1222 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 9: you think you're going with a decision right when you're 1223 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 9: weighing two options. And I think he was leaning toward 1224 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 9: Daniel Jones heavily the entire time. And I didn't necessarily 1225 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 9: have clarity on that until recently, But there were certain 1226 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 9: statements in certain conversations that I've had in the past 1227 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 9: that now when I think about them through this current lens, 1228 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,959 Speaker 9: I got clarity on that. Does that make sense? 1229 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I. 1230 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 9: Believe that, I really do believe that he was heavily 1231 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 9: leaning toward Daniel Jones the whole time. Now, me to 1232 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 9: wrap it up, what I was going to say about 1233 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 9: Anthony is that, yeah, they believed in him, and they 1234 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 9: drafted him they believe there's something there, but I just 1235 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 9: don't know that. They still don't have any quarterback clarity 1236 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 9: beyond this season, and that's the bottom line. And I 1237 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 9: don't know. I don't know that. I believe Anthony Richardson 1238 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 9: is going to be their quarterback in twenty twenty six, 1239 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 9: but they don't have one. So I mean, I guess 1240 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 9: it's just as likely as anything else, right, So I 1241 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 9: don't know. I just don't think they have any security 1242 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 9: at that position, so they're reluctant to just completely close 1243 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 9: the door. 1244 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: Stephen, Is it unfair of me to say this when 1245 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: it comes to Richardson for example? Okay, it is my belief, 1246 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: and I have nothing to base this on. I want 1247 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: to make it emphatically clear. This is simply me reading 1248 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: tea leaves and just my belief, Okay, just my gut instinct. 1249 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: My instinct tells me that internally at the top brass 1250 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: that they're over it with Anthony Richardson, not as a person, 1251 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: not as a kid, not as a guy, not as 1252 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: a young man, and just as a quarterback. That they're like, yeah, 1253 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: we've given we can't wait any longer. And they've moved 1254 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: on from that and Shane Steiken is one that I 1255 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: think is the spearhead of that because if you go 1256 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: back and you look, it's like the sixth sense. You 1257 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 1: go back and you look at it, and you go, 1258 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: how do we not see this coming? Because he's basically 1259 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: been telling us this for a while. Now. With all 1260 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: of that said, I agree with you with Daniel Jones 1261 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: and barring a miracle, even if Daniel Jones is Sam 1262 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Darnold and all of a sudden they have this season 1263 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: where they go eleven and six and they get into 1264 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then they get beat thirty one to 1265 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: nine to the Cincinnati Bengals, And okay, great. Having said 1266 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: all of that, when I look at just the overall 1267 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: the change in ownership the quarterback, if it doesn't work out, 1268 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if that is not actually, if all of 1269 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: this is not just the seed that they decide to water, 1270 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: that is a complete overhaul of all aspects of the 1271 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: franchise next year and a complete start over. Am I 1272 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: like chicken little here? Well, well, this. 1273 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 9: Is what I can agree with. If you are Carly ERSA. 1274 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 9: Gordon and you are looking at Chris Ballard's miscalculations at 1275 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 9: quarterback and then you are looking at San Steichen who 1276 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 9: pounded his fists for Anthony Richardson. Okay, and two years 1277 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 9: later it's like going to pay Daniel freaking Jones. 1278 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 4: Okay, you have you have a very firm, firm leg 1279 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 4: to stand on if next year you say, I'm not 1280 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 4: letting you guys get anywhere near a quarterback decision, right, 1281 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that is a very prudent position that she 1282 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 4: could take, and what who. 1283 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 9: Could argue with her. I'm not saying it's the right 1284 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 9: or wrong decision. I'm just saying that's if that's what 1285 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 9: she decides. I mean, what case can you make, you know, 1286 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 9: to argue that she's wrong. That's what I'd say. So 1287 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 9: So I think everybody in the organization understands that torobably 1288 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 9: up to and including the two men were talking about 1289 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 9: Shane Stocking and Chris Ballard. So they got to figure 1290 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 9: something out, and they've got to show some some positive 1291 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 9: trajectory at that position here and change the conversation and 1292 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 9: change the tide, you know, turn the tide at quarterback, 1293 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 9: because right now it's all bad. It's all bad. I 1294 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 9: just can't keep doing this. 1295 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: By the way, and we will include Stephen for this 1296 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: news Eddie, the breaking news sounder, Please if you could 1297 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: this just Dan a few minutes ago from Steven's colleague 1298 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: at ESPN, Adam Schefter. Even though he has already won 1299 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Travis Kelcey has gotten another ring. He placed 1300 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: it on the finger of Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift and 1301 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey now officially engaged Steve. And I know you've 1302 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: been waiting for this for a while. 1303 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 9: Correct this is Is this the biggest transaction Adam's ever broken? Yes, listen, 1304 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 9: I work with Adam very closely, and listen, we could 1305 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 9: have one like a. 1306 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Little actually hadn't break it. I think they put it 1307 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram, didn't they? 1308 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 5: Oh? 1309 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: All right, all right? 1310 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 9: So I was going to say, like, I've worked breaking 1311 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 9: news with this guy and you know he's he's insane. Okay, 1312 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 9: I love Adam, but the guy is maniacal. But anyway, 1313 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 9: I was like, I can't even imagine how he would 1314 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 9: have been if he broke this one, because you know, 1315 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 9: he doesn't want to get beat on anything. All right, Anyway, 1316 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 9: I digress. That is a big transaction, though, big, big transaction, 1317 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 9: Travis skills big Internet, isn't it? 1318 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: What's ed. 1319 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 10: It's going to be internet, isn't it. I actually wonder, 1320 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 10: like this is gonna sound crazy? Does that do any 1321 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 10: kind of like expected? Does it do anything for her? 1322 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know when I say this, like the 1323 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Swifties are gonna go crazy? Right, does this in any way, 1324 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: shape or form impact like kind of her aura or 1325 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: her trajectory? Because her entire aura, I think is the 1326 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: fact that she's like the girl that has like the 1327 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: boyfriends that you know did her wrong and she writes 1328 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: songs about it. Whatever else she is a I mean, 1329 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: she is obviously one of the most, if not the 1330 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: most powerful entertainment brands in the world, no question about it. 1331 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: But you know, does that does that in any way, 1332 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: shape or form change the trajectory for either one of them? 1333 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 9: Yet what you're saying, you know, I mean like it 1334 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 9: And it's always like, all right, take like the hot 1335 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 9: the hot pop star whoever you know, replace her with 1336 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 9: whoever else? Right, whoevers like the hot pop star with 1337 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 9: all the guys would love to hook up with? Right 1338 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 9: if they then hook up with someone like permanently, are 1339 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 9: they less desirable to the to the guys? I don't know, 1340 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 9: it's not the exact same question, but something I wonder maybe, 1341 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,480 Speaker 9: like in the shower. 1342 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: Well, here's here's the thing. And when I say this, 1343 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to show my total ignorance about Taylor Swift. 1344 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: And I have all the respect in the world for 1345 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: what she does. I mean, she is a billion dollar 1346 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: economic generator for cities. 1347 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 9: Having boat here, I agree. 1348 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I think part of her relatability to a large part 1349 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: of her audience is the fact that she is the 1350 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,600 Speaker 1: girl that never needed the trophy guy, and now she 1351 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: has the trophy guy. Right. Does that defy what her 1352 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:56,560 Speaker 1: brain is? 1353 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 9: I wonder. I wonder that's a good question. I mean, 1354 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 9: she might be less inspired in her songwriting now, because 1355 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 9: from everything I've ever heard about Taylors is that she 1356 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 9: must have had some really DOOVII relationships in the past 1357 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 9: that inspired some amazing songwritings. So I wonder how that's 1358 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 9: going to work. 1359 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Now, Okay, Steven, we will start finding out the finality 1360 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: of the Colts roster. I realize they have until four 1361 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: o'clock to basically announce that. If I'm not mistaken, and 1362 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I told Eddie this, it feels to me like last 1363 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,959 Speaker 1: year they were one of the last teams to announce 1364 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,839 Speaker 1: their roster. They don't have to necessarily publicize it for right. 1365 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 9: They have to submit it to the NFL. They can 1366 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 9: tell us two weeks from now if they want to. 1367 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 9: But you know, in theory, yes, so, yeah, they tend 1368 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 9: to wait until the very last minute. That's just kind 1369 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 9: of what they do, and it is what it is. 1370 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Will there be any other major surprises yet? Not that 1371 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: there have been major surprises yet, But do you think 1372 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: we will hear major surprises? 1373 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 9: I don't, I really don't. I really think this will 1374 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 9: be one of the smoothest roster cutdowns they've had in 1375 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 9: recent years. Now, you know, it's still a tough day 1376 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 9: for the guys who get that bad news, of course, right, 1377 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 9: But I'm just talking about from the perspective of decision making. 1378 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 9: I don't think this is going to be that tough. 1379 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 9: They have a lot of carryover from last year. They 1380 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 9: have a lot of veterans who have very defined roles. 1381 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to be that difficult for 1382 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 9: them for the most part. 1383 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: All right, Stevenolder ESPN dot Com. I realize that you 1384 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,679 Speaker 1: will have all of the coverage for it. Certainly appreciate 1385 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: on what I know is going to be a busy afternoon. 1386 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate you not only dealing with the questions but also 1387 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift conversation always fun. 1388 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 9: Sure, why not? I mean, it's a big day and 1389 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 9: the American history isn't it? 1390 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: It is? It is? Hey, congratulations both them, right, I 1391 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: got nothing inside of one of them, to be honest 1392 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: with you, you know, congrat. 1393 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 9: Like them both. 1394 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I like them both, all right, Steven, appreciate it, all right, Cia, 1395 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: Steven Holder joining us on the program, Eddie, your thoughts? 1396 01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: You want to chime in on this? Should we get 1397 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 1: Scott Agnes on the line. 1398 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, we'll have Scott Agnes on the line a half hour. 1399 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's devastated, it's gonna say. But the Taylor Swift. 1400 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,560 Speaker 1: Engagement's bad news for me. Why, I'll tell you on 1401 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: the other side. Okay, again, when I I'm overly analytical 1402 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,719 Speaker 1: on things sometimes with and this is probably one of those. 1403 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: But Eddie, you very coyly said going into the break 1404 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 1: that this news that now we know that Taylor Swift 1405 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 1: and Travis Kelcey are engaged, at least according to all 1406 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: of their social media posts. You said, this puts you 1407 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: in hot water. 1408 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I saw it and I made I was 1409 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,759 Speaker 2: trying to get your attention, think but I just couldn't 1410 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 2: get it. We're just deep in conversation with Stephen Holder 1411 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 2: about this. Uh, So I was waiting. I didn't say 1412 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 2: anything to Olivia because she has she's not a big 1413 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,640 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey or Taylor Swift fan. But I got a 1414 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 2: text from her and she goes, I have a bone 1415 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 2: to pick with you, and this is all caps. I'm like, 1416 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,719 Speaker 2: oh boy, what do I do, like not leave. 1417 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Something out for those that don't know. Olivia is your girlfriend? 1418 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: You guys have been you met where college? 1419 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 2: In college, we've been together for five years, okay, And 1420 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh, what I do this time? And 1421 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 2: then she sends me the engagement post from Instagram. I 1422 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 2: don't know which one whose Instagram this is. This is 1423 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 2: on Taylor's and she goes, no way, little miss, I 1424 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,720 Speaker 2: can't hold a guy for more than one album got 1425 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 2: engaged before me. So I'm in hot water, Jake. 1426 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Okay, there appears to be a threshold that once you 1427 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 1: cross it without getting engaged, but being together for a 1428 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 1: long time, that then like the pressure goes off. 1429 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 2: Common law, right, is that what that's called. 1430 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 1: I believe common law means that you have to be 1431 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: living in the same residence. Correct, Well, but we're doing that. 1432 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I understood, But like, I'm not in the common law situation, 1433 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 1: but you're not the you know what I mean? This 1434 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: from your only friend, Alec. I need Eddie to take 1435 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: a page out of Travis Kelsey's book and propose so 1436 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I can plan him a bachelor party. So does that 1437 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 1: mean definitively that Alec is your best man? I guess 1438 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 1: if he's your only friend, he has. 1439 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 2: To be, right, Well, it's either him or my brother Jay. 1440 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't know which one that would be. 1441 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I have been a best man, I got it. 1442 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: I think I've been best man six times? Is that right? 1443 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: Something like that? I give great toasts and you know, 1444 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fun wedding date. But those days 1445 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 1: in terms of going to weddings, it's been a while. 1446 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: But here's my question, and I realized when I ask it, 1447 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I would like somebody to call in right now. That 1448 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 1: is that is a huge fan of Taylor Swift. Two 1449 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: through nine, ten seventy is the telephone number I need 1450 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 1: a Swifty to call in now? We only have twenty 1451 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: five female listeners. And I'm not saying that all of 1452 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: her fans are females by any stretch. She's a I 1453 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: have nothing against her. It's not my genre of music, 1454 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: but I know what it's like to go to a 1455 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: concert that is just like a force, and Taylor Swift 1456 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: is a force. I mean literally, like economically speaking, what 1457 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: she does when she goes to these cities. It's remarkable 1458 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: what she is able to do. But if somebody is 1459 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: a huge fan of Taylor Swift, my concern is two 1460 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: thor nine ten seventy is the telephone number. I don't 1461 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: want to come off like the guy, you know, the 1462 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: generation above Taylor Swift that has no understanding of her 1463 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: and look like somebody that is old man yelling at 1464 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 1: Cloud's sour grape guy. I mean that, in no way, 1465 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 1: shape or form is what I want to sound like. 1466 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I genuinely am curious from a diehard Taylor Swift fan 1467 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: for the question that I want to ask, But I'm 1468 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 1: afraid that I'm going to sound like an idiot when 1469 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,680 Speaker 1: I ask it. Now, do we have any Swifties that 1470 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,759 Speaker 1: called in at two three nine ten seventy Eddy. 1471 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Aaron called in. Don't know if Aaron is a Swifty though. 1472 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: Aaron, how are you? 1473 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 4: I'm doing good? 1474 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Jake car are you I'm okay? Are you a big 1475 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: fan of Taylor Swift? I? No, but my wife is okay. 1476 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 1: So here's my question. And Aaron, now let me ask 1477 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: this because your wife is a fan. Did you happen 1478 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: to a company your wife to a concert of Taylor Swift? 1479 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 4: I did not. I actually wish I would have it 1480 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 4: look like a great show. 1481 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that, right, I mean, like you clearly, 1482 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 1: it's like this two hour euphoria right for people. What 1483 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I want to know is, Aaron, and you're not with 1484 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: your wife right now? Are you? 1485 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 10: No? 1486 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Okay? I want to know this. Do you think that 1487 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,639 Speaker 1: your wife will be happy for Taylor Swift? Or will 1488 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: she in any way not be envious? That's the wrong 1489 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: way of saying it. But does it in any way, 1490 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: shape or form like compromise the branding of Taylor Swift 1491 01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: because part of her relatability is the fact that she 1492 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: is not the megastar girl that gets the NFL player. 1493 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 1494 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1495 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,759 Speaker 5: Well, hopefully no more breakup album? 1496 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, well, can you imagine if they Get Divorced Hall 1497 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 2: that album? 1498 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,479 Speaker 1: Can you imagine he's got to know that, right, which 1499 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: one signed with the Freed up? Right? Okay, so Murphy 1500 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 1: is next? Right? Is mur Murphy or you are swiftye. 1501 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 5: Uh A little bit man. I've been to a couple 1502 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 5: of concerts, man. I was security for the Lucas Oil 1503 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 5: for a few years and I was able to see her, 1504 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 5: actually met her. She bought lust for a few a 1505 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 5: couple of times at the stadium at the Lookies. 1506 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 1: Now, no, say that again. There was a little wind there. 1507 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 1: You said you met her. 1508 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 5: Yes, when I was security, you know, I was what 1509 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 5: I was watching the door, make sure it did nobody 1510 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 5: bust in, you know. Uh, she was. She was nice, man. 1511 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 5: She bought she bought us lunch. 1512 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cool. Right. So so did you did 1513 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: you actually get to like speak with her or just 1514 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: it was you know, like like she kind of went 1515 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: past and that was that. 1516 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 5: I spoke to her. I spoke to her, she spoke 1517 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 5: to me, man, It was it was It was It 1518 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 5: was fun. 1519 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 9: Man, he's really. 1520 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 4: Down to her. 1521 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 1: Okay. So here's my question for you, Murphy. If you 1522 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 1: were working security, and I'd like to know this Okay, 1523 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: we haven't said your last name, so you're gonna be 1524 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: safe here, right, and it's just you and I talk, 1525 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 1: and nobody's listening to this program anyway. How many years 1526 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 1: did you do security down there at Lucas Oil? 1527 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 5: I say maybe three or four years? 1528 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Okay? And then have you done that same job at 1529 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: other entertainment venues or just Lucas Oil? 1530 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 9: Oh? 1531 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 1: Just the looky okay, during that time? I would like 1532 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 1: to know, Well, first off, how were the Taylor Swift shows? 1533 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: Whether would you list them as entertaining? 1534 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 7: Oh? 1535 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 5: Man, it was entertaining. I had I was right by 1536 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 5: the like front of the stage. 1537 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 4: Man. 1538 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 1: It was the kids height, okay, didn't you just. 1539 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 5: Showed the dancers and everything. It was a good quality show. 1540 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: It's a great presentation, correct, Is that the best way 1541 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: of saying it? 1542 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 5: Yes, sir? 1543 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Now Murphy, were you right now? Are you in the 1544 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean now? 1545 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 6: Right now? 1546 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 5: I'm at work, man. I kind of dipped off to 1547 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 5: the side. 1548 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Well before your bud, I don't 1549 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: wanted to get in trouble here, but so I got 1550 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: one other question for you. And the time, the three 1551 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 1: or four years that you have been doing security at 1552 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, removing Taylor Swift from the equation. Tell 1553 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: me the show that you saw that you have to 1554 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: admit was the best non tailor Swift division. And then 1555 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 1: tell me the show that you said to yourself, this 1556 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 1: is horrible and I would be angry if I paid 1557 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 1: for it. 1558 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 5: Oh, Man, Well, I can't say, because I haven't been 1559 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 5: to do too many concerts. I was more of helping 1560 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 5: with the coats. Also, so one of my job with 1561 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 5: security for the for the cameraman on the field, So 1562 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 5: majority of my work was working with the coat. 1563 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: Okay, well, you could actually probably answer, depending on the game, 1564 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 1: both answers for the Colts. Right. 1565 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,680 Speaker 5: I got a question for you, Jay, I got one 1566 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 5: question man, I once did you recognize North Central Panthers 1567 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 5: get their first win? 1568 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,599 Speaker 1: You know what? So, Murphy, did you go to North Central? 1569 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 5: I didn't go to North Central, but my son playing 1570 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 5: for North Central right now, he can run it back 1571 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 5: to Zia Murphy. Ay Man, he ran for one hundred 1572 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 5: and eighteen yards, man for eleven carries. 1573 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 1: Listen, Murphy Murphy, I'm telling you thirty two games streak 1574 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: is over. New coach, new philosophies, new attitude, new vision, 1575 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: and one to zero. After beating buff on Friday, Hailar Panthers, 1576 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: hats up to thee And I saw that doctor White 1577 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 1: was in the building. Loved it about Okay, okay, yep, 1578 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,440 Speaker 1: love it Murphy. Tell your son congratulations. 1579 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 2: You know what it took take for that losing streak 1580 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,760 Speaker 2: to end to get a former your windy guy in there, 1581 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 2: coach Cooper used to be with the Grehounds. 1582 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, Uh, he is very highly thought of. 1583 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 1: When I was I was at North Central speaking to 1584 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the students there last year, right after he was hired U, 1585 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: and he had come in and met some of the 1586 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,760 Speaker 1: teachers and everything else. And I think there's a lot 1587 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,440 Speaker 1: of optimism. 1588 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 2: It's very energetic guy, high energy. 1589 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,759 Speaker 1: Did you did you we crossed Pasia? Okay? 1590 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 2: When I was in college, he was there. Is there 1591 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 2: a wide receivers coach? 1592 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Now, you did not when you were in college. You 1593 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 1: obviously were a high school baseball player, Eddie. Did you 1594 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 1: partake in any sort of intermeals or any sort of 1595 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: sports at U Indy? I did not know none. Do 1596 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,320 Speaker 1: they have intermeals at you Indy? 1597 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:25,640 Speaker 4: They do? 1598 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, basketball, probably some pickleball now, no, no baseball, right. 1599 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 2: I think they admit I can't remember for that baseball 1600 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,839 Speaker 2: or not, but I know they had five football and 1601 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 2: I was always the athletic trainer has always won those 1602 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 2: for some reason. 1603 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, By the way, my mom is putting the 1604 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: the same pres same pressure on me. Uh that you 1605 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 1: just got yet you know what I mean. I'm telling you. 1606 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 2: Olivia texted me, by the way and say, oh, I 1607 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 2: picked the right time to tune in. 1608 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,640 Speaker 1: I need I need female listener number twenty one of 1609 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 1: our twenty five female listeners to call in at two three, nine, ten, 1610 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,600 Speaker 1: seventy one of our I don't want Scott Agnes to 1611 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: have to be our only resident expert on Taylor Swift, right, 1612 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 1: but Scott Agnes does join us. Eighteen minutes from now 1613 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 1: four o'clock is when the Colts have to submit to 1614 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: the NFL their list of fifty three players. If you 1615 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,800 Speaker 1: are just joining us on the program today, Jelannie Woods 1616 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 1: is one of those that is expected to not make 1617 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: the roster, so to Wesley French. Both are being released 1618 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 1: in reports from Joel Erickson as well as James Boyd 1619 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 1: as things kind of trickle out. If you will. The 1620 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: other big news is that that Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey 1621 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 1: announcing on social media because that's what you do in 1622 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five that they are now engaged, and I 1623 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 1: have questions. And we have twenty five female listeners of 1624 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: this program. Three of the twenty five have managed to 1625 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: call it, and I'm thrilled about that. 1626 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 2: Wait a second, are we sure I know Colleen for 1627 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 2: sure as a female listener on the program. Have we 1628 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 2: initiated Meghan and Katie yet? 1629 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: I believe Megan's one of the twenty five has called 1630 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 1: the program before. Meghan leads us off. Megan, have you 1631 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:16,679 Speaker 1: called the show before? 1632 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 5: I actually don't. 1633 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if I have believe. 1634 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 6: It or not. 1635 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Do you think do you consider yourself to be part 1636 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,639 Speaker 1: of the twenty five or you possibly twenty six? 1637 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 11: I'm definitely part of the twenty five. 1638 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's only twenty five, is what I'm getting at. 1639 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 11: You are not like now, you have more than twenty five, 1640 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 11: You have more. 1641 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: Than twenty five twenty six? Okay, Meghan, you are or 1642 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,920 Speaker 1: not a swifty I am. 1643 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 11: I would definitely categorize myself as a. 1644 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: Swifty yes, okay, And I know that it makes me 1645 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 1: sound and I'm being serious when I say this. I 1646 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: don't want to sound completely out of touch with the 1647 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift phenomenon, because I'm aware of it and I 1648 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 1: can appreciate and respect it while not myself being engrossed 1649 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 1: in it. But I am curious, if you think, and 1650 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 1: maybe not for adult women, but for younger girls, does 1651 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's relatability or brand in any way become compromised 1652 01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: now that she is in a healthy and what hopefully 1653 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 1: is going to be a permanent relationship. 1654 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,599 Speaker 11: I don't think so. I think she's thirty five. Now, 1655 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 11: she's growing up, and if anything, it gives young girls 1656 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 11: something to aspire to. You, don't you know? 1657 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 7: You don't settle early. 1658 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 11: So I think she's providing some good lessons to the youth. 1659 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 8: I really do. 1660 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: Should that be my answer when people ask? Now, I mean, obviously, Shannon, 1661 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 1: I've been together for a long time, but I was 1662 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 1: well when I was close to thirty five when she 1663 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: and I started dating. Should I just say it's because 1664 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: I never settled early? 1665 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 12: I think you could say that. 1666 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:52,839 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1667 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 12: Do you think waiting for the right one? 1668 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 1: Okay, now, that could get you in trouble, Jake, No, no, no, 1669 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: waiting for the right one, and the right one is here. 1670 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 12: I'm just not we just have not exactly you were. 1671 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 11: You were waiting for the right one until thirty five 1672 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 11: you found her. 1673 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 7: You're still with. 1674 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: Her right, okay, but not engaged is what I'm hitting 1675 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: at here, Megan. You are also a big Colts fan? Correct? 1676 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 12: Correct? 1677 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,719 Speaker 1: I would like to know this now that Taylor Swift 1678 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 1: is getting a ring, do you think that the Colts 1679 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 1: anytime soon will as well? 1680 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 13: Oh? 1681 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 7: I hope, so, I hope. 1682 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,520 Speaker 1: So that sounded less than convinced. 1683 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 11: Well, it's you know, it's you never know. But it 1684 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 11: seems like we've got a little ways to go. It 1685 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 11: seems like we're in transition here. But we'll wait and 1686 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 11: see you. 1687 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,440 Speaker 1: So you're not thrilled with Daniel. 1688 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 12: Jones, I don't, I really. 1689 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 11: I you got to see Game one, I guess, and 1690 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,000 Speaker 11: see how things go. You just got to have faith 1691 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 11: in the coaching staff and it's a great ownership. They 1692 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 11: know what they're doing and hope for the best. But yes, 1693 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,439 Speaker 11: I'm a hopelessly optimistic cold stand Okay, I'm true, all. 1694 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: Right, Megan. We appreciate the call. I want to check 1695 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: in with Katie because you said that Katie is only 1696 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,200 Speaker 1: calling because somebody told her to. I don't think Katie 1697 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 1: knows this as a sports talk radio program. Katie. Are 1698 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 1: you there? I am, Katie. You have no idea what 1699 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: you've called. You just called because somebody told you to 1700 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 1: call to talk about Taylor Swift. Is that right? 1701 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 8: Yes? 1702 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 3: My husband's listening right now, and he gave me a 1703 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 3: number and said I have to call it immediately and 1704 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 3: talk about being the Swifty as I can do that 1705 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 3: as easy. 1706 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Katie. I hate to ask this because I don't 1707 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 1: want to, you know, I don't want to get in 1708 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 1: trouble here. You never ask a woman her age. I 1709 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: realize that. But if you were, for example, filling out 1710 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,679 Speaker 1: an insurance form and it had like the age brackets, 1711 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,799 Speaker 1: you were in? What category? 1712 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm twenty five? 1713 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Okay, twenty five? Well she's right with okay twenty five 1714 01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 1: O Katye Okay, So Katie, you probably heard what I 1715 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 1: was just asking. Megan. You have been a Taylor Swift 1716 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 1: fan for how long? 1717 01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,040 Speaker 3: Since thirteen or so? So we're going twelve thirteen years almost. 1718 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 1: And the thing about her that you most enjoy or 1719 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 1: that you most connect with is what. 1720 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I was a big sent of her breakup songs, 1721 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 3: not especially as a teen. Okay, and now I also 1722 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 3: just recently got married, got engaged, got married, all that stuff. 1723 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 3: So now be able to enjoy her music about being 1724 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 3: in love while she's awesome in love is very fun. 1725 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Okay. So this does not in any way shape or 1726 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,679 Speaker 1: form you heard my question like your thoughts on that 1727 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 1: In terms of I just it feels to me like 1728 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,760 Speaker 1: her career in her songwriting has been so epicentered in 1729 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 1: female empowerment of I don't need the man because I've 1730 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,759 Speaker 1: been through that and I've become stronger as a result 1731 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: of it and etc. Does this compromise that at all? 1732 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 3: No, because she can still be a strong independent woman 1733 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 3: that elevates a man as well as elevating herself. 1734 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,679 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's now kind of where it shifts, correct. 1735 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it shows that you don't need to be dependent. 1736 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,680 Speaker 3: You can still be strong, independent on your own and 1737 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 3: also have the growth in the relationship. And the way 1738 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 3: that he was supporting her on stage her tour, he 1739 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,200 Speaker 3: came out as a guest star on it and supports 1740 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,560 Speaker 3: her in that way, it could show that, Hey, you 1741 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 3: don't have to diminish yourself. Because he's the NFL superstar. 1742 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 3: He can also come to your level and show out 1743 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,799 Speaker 3: on a superstar level on your ter own field. 1744 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, Katie, can you do me a 1745 01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,639 Speaker 1: favor here? We keep a running tab on this show 1746 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,439 Speaker 1: of the number of female listeners we have, and we 1747 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 1: think we might be at twenty five, but we're not 1748 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,639 Speaker 1: convinced of that. Can you do me a favor when 1749 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 1: you hang up and turn on your radio to ninety 1750 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 1: three five or one oh seven five, both of them 1751 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 1: work FM, and just give us two minutes of listenership 1752 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: so we can go ahead and tabulate you as one 1753 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: of the twenty five. Of course, wait wait, wait twenty 1754 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 1: five or twenty six too. Well, here's the thing, I'm 1755 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: not certain it's twenty five. Katie would for sure make 1756 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,640 Speaker 1: us get us to twenty five. So if Katie can 1757 01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 1: just give us a little bit of listship, then we 1758 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,720 Speaker 1: know we get to twenty five. Katie, have you seen 1759 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift in concert? 1760 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 3: I have not, but I've seen the movie of it 1761 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:07,919 Speaker 3: on Netflix. 1762 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 1: Did you go and see that at the Imax deal 1763 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 1: or did you just watch that at home at. 1764 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 3: Home, and I just found out that my actually do 1765 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 3: send my induction date is going to be the date 1766 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 3: of her upcoming album release on ten three. Really, I 1767 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 3: have of our little baby girl at the time that 1768 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 3: a Showgirl comes. 1769 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: Yes, October third, Yes, okay, well and that's child number one, Katie. Yes, well, congratulations, Katie. 1770 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 1: I certainly I hope for all of you the healthiest 1771 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,760 Speaker 1: and the best in terms of that. So we we 1772 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: thank you, and I am very appreciative. All right, let's 1773 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,080 Speaker 1: round it out with Colleen. Colleen, if you listen, you've 1774 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,920 Speaker 1: called the program before, correct. 1775 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 7: Yes, Actually, I am your very first female listeners. The 1776 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 7: very first day on the air, I called in and 1777 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 7: you made me CFO because I think you said women 1778 01:29:58,720 --> 01:29:59,759 Speaker 7: were good with money. 1779 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,759 Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, you're the chief financial officer of the company. Yeah, 1780 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: that's right. And listen, there's no funny business going on 1781 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 1: with women and the money, right, men, you can't trust. 1782 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,439 Speaker 7: I keep it tight, wallet. I'm keeping you on the 1783 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,680 Speaker 7: air and on the up and up. 1784 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 1: Listen, and Colleen, be honest with yourself. As the chief 1785 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: financial officer. The financial prospects of this company aren't looking 1786 01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 1: any better than the day that you started, and you're 1787 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 1: actually a little bit surprised that we're still keeping afloat. Right. 1788 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,760 Speaker 7: Well, let's just put it this way. I think your 1789 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 7: show is doing better than a certain favorite football team 1790 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,040 Speaker 7: of mine. So we're doing good. 1791 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get to that real quick. With the Colts, 1792 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts going into it on the year, it's been 1793 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of a rocky road at the quarterback 1794 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,519 Speaker 1: position here, I assume you're talking about the Colts with 1795 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 1: your favorite football team, your thoughts going into it here, 1796 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 1: seventeen games, Colleen, as the CFO of this company, your 1797 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 1: prediction is a record. 1798 01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 6: Of what. 1799 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,200 Speaker 7: You want my heart prediction, or you want my realistic 1800 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 7: tradition prediction. 1801 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 1: What I know is this, Colleen, you became CFO of 1802 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 1: this company because you are a calculated and all business 1803 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,759 Speaker 1: no no heart in it. You can make decisions based 1804 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: on what's what's the reality, not based on the heart. 1805 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Don't make me compromise you your job. I don't want 1806 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 1: to have to remove you from your position. 1807 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 7: Okay. I I think we're going to win nine games, Okay, 1808 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 7: nine and eight. I really think I think we're going 1809 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 7: to win nine games. I think our defense is going 1810 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 7: to be greatly, greatly improved. I think our offense as 1811 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,519 Speaker 7: long as support and I you know, it's so hard 1812 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 7: to say because I don't know what the quarterback play 1813 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 7: is going to be. But I am going to assume 1814 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,280 Speaker 7: that we made the right choice with the quarterback, and 1815 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,280 Speaker 7: I think our quarterback play will be improved over last year. 1816 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 7: And I think it was Megan was that you asked 1817 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,719 Speaker 7: if we were going to get a ring any anytime soon, 1818 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,679 Speaker 7: like Taylor, did we have a woman in charge now? 1819 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 7: So I'm convinced we are going to get a ring 1820 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,040 Speaker 7: sooner rather than later, because you know, when a woman 1821 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 7: is in charge, you know, things get done. So I 1822 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,280 Speaker 7: think we're turning the corner and we're heading up the hill. 1823 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 7: We're going upward. 1824 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, it's like this show. In order to get 1825 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:20,600 Speaker 1: where you want to go, you've got to have a 1826 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,800 Speaker 1: woman in charge, like Colleen our CFO one of the twenty. 1827 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 2: Five as goal. 1828 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,479 Speaker 7: It's got to be clear cut. So we're going to 1829 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,160 Speaker 7: be Okay. This might be a little bit of a 1830 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 7: rough year, but I still think it's going to be 1831 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,400 Speaker 7: better than last year and the year before and the 1832 01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 7: year before and the year before. 1833 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,600 Speaker 1: And the problem is Colleen, as we know, and I 1834 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,519 Speaker 1: appreciate the call as always. The problem is, Eddie, you 1835 01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,680 Speaker 1: know it too. When you go nine and eight, you 1836 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,679 Speaker 1: find yourself kind of stuck in that vada suck. 1837 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 2: I got two things here, Jake. So number one, I 1838 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,759 Speaker 2: couldn't remember who I needed to call about your spending 1839 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 2: with you know, the Elixir, So now I know who 1840 01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 2: to call. He has to approve that purchase for that 1841 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:03,000 Speaker 2: subscription every year. And number two, Jay texted the station 1842 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 2: three one seven two three, nineteen seventy and he said, 1843 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 2: as the kids would say, Jake and Eddie, y'all are cooked, cooked, cooked. 1844 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Yes see, I don't know the KIDDLINGO. Does that mean 1845 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: that by we're cooked, does that mean in turn in trouble? Yeah? 1846 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:23,719 Speaker 1: Well speak for yourself right now. My mom's not happy. 1847 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 1: My mom's on board with Olivia and what all of 1848 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,479 Speaker 1: this means. But I promise you we're going to get 1849 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 1: back to talking about the Colts. We're going to get 1850 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,320 Speaker 1: back to talking about sports. We're going to get back 1851 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 1: to talking about the fever. Stephanie White joined us earlier 1852 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 1: on the program. I asked her point blank about Caitlin 1853 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Clark's return date, and she for the first time. I 1854 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,720 Speaker 1: think kind of opened that door a little bit and 1855 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,879 Speaker 1: gave us a little bit of insight. We will discuss 1856 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,559 Speaker 1: that and probably Taylor Swift as well when Scott Agnes 1857 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 1: joins us. Two o'clock hours underway in Indianapolis, for that matter, 1858 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,639 Speaker 1: of the two o'clock hours underway everywhere in the Eastern 1859 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 1: time zone. Good afternoon you. My name is Jake Quarry. 1860 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison is the other voice you hear on this program. 1861 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: We call it Querry and Company. Colleen is the CFO 1862 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 1: of the company we have established. Now that we have 1863 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty five female listeners, Eddie Garrison, do you happen to 1864 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 1: have the breaking new sounder please? It has pointed out 1865 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: to me that because of the fact that Katie is 1866 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,639 Speaker 1: has in utero a baby girl, that could mean female 1867 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 1: listener twenty six, right, do we count that? 1868 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question, Jake. 1869 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 1: As soon as the baby is born, I'm going to 1870 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 1: request that Katie make sure that there is some good 1871 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,760 Speaker 1: feeding time from twelve until three, bottle time with the 1872 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,280 Speaker 1: radio on and then there you go, buy one, get one. 1873 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 2: Can we get that on our weddings too? Jake, is 1874 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,759 Speaker 2: anyone out there offering a buy one, get one on weddings. 1875 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 2: You can be the buy one and I can be 1876 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 2: the get one. Okay, senilready first, right? Okay, age before beauty, 1877 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,680 Speaker 2: as I say. 1878 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, okay, I don't think when it comes 1879 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,320 Speaker 1: to if we were to do a buy one, get 1880 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 1: one wedding Eddie and the brides themselves, that we would 1881 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,200 Speaker 1: use the term age before beauty, right. 1882 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,639 Speaker 2: I don't think so, not one bit. 1883 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,840 Speaker 1: Joining us down in the program, I'm sure thrilled to 1884 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 1: be doing so. Scott Agnes, who himself a Scott, is 1885 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 1: it fair to say you're a swiftye? Do we have 1886 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: Scott Eddie? Well? I thought we did. Hold on. Maybe 1887 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 1: Scott Agnes just found out about Taylor Swift and his 1888 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 1: shock and dismay has prohibited him from joining the program. 1889 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,759 Speaker 1: Stephanie White was on earlier and I asked Stephanie White 1890 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:50,200 Speaker 1: point blank about Caitlin Clark, what where things stand? And 1891 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,559 Speaker 1: she said that she would like to see Caitlyn Clark 1892 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 1: practice five times before they have her in a game 1893 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:02,320 Speaker 1: situation five times Fever and action tonight taking on Seattle. 1894 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 1: That game is a seven o'clock tip. Eddie will have 1895 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,680 Speaker 1: the pregame at six forty five, and later in the 1896 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 1: conversation with Stephanie White, I said, okay, so if you 1897 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 1: said five practices before you would like to see Kateln 1898 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,720 Speaker 1: Clark on the floor. And one of the things that 1899 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Stephanie White talked about was it wasn't as much about 1900 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 1: timing for her and other such things as much as 1901 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:30,719 Speaker 1: it was about wanting to see the overall physical endurance 1902 01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,760 Speaker 1: that is necessary for Caitlin Clark, and that's why she 1903 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,759 Speaker 1: wants to see her in five practices. So I asked 1904 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:41,960 Speaker 1: the question of okay, how many practices then has she 1905 01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,679 Speaker 1: had to go through, you know, so far? How many 1906 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,759 Speaker 1: practices are under her belt so to speak? And she said, 1907 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,880 Speaker 1: we actually haven't had any real practices. We've had some 1908 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 1: shoot arounds and some walkthroughs since Kitlin Clark has been 1909 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,680 Speaker 1: on the floor, but we have not undergone practices. So 1910 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: you can to do the math there. When you look 1911 01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: at their schedule seven games remaining, they're a game over 1912 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,560 Speaker 1: five hundred other fever with Seattle tonight. If it's five practices, 1913 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 1: then you're looking at even more extended period of time 1914 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 1: before Caitlin Clark returns. We do have Scott agnesy As 1915 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 1: returned here Scott before we get into the fever, since 1916 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 1: you are a noted Swifty correct. 1917 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, I do enjoy it for sure. So today's news 1918 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,839 Speaker 14: is certainly massive in the community. 1919 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:33,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you live in a swifty community? Is that right? Okay, 1920 01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, and I've gotten the female 1921 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,720 Speaker 1: perspective on this. I'm curious, though you're a fan of 1922 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,760 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, what does this do just in terms of 1923 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,920 Speaker 1: the theme and the messaging of And I'm not saying 1924 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: that any of that is bad, but from my understanding, 1925 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: a large part of Taylor Swift's songwriting and vibe has 1926 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: been relationship based, and notably based in the conversation of 1927 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,479 Speaker 1: failed relationships. She now has found the one, presumably and 1928 01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,160 Speaker 1: hopefully that in fact sticks. How does that change the 1929 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 1: branding of Taylor Swift? 1930 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 14: I love this a legitimate funny question though also with 1931 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,559 Speaker 14: all this, yeah, a lot of it has been absolutely 1932 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:22,479 Speaker 14: about her relationships and her past and those different things. 1933 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,680 Speaker 14: I'm sure she's an immaculate marketer and an incredible songwriter 1934 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 14: and then obviously singer performer, so I have no doubt 1935 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:34,320 Speaker 14: that she'll adjust and hopefully it'll be more favorable things. 1936 01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 14: But I think that's why a lot of young girls 1937 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 14: especially love her relate to her because they're perhaps going 1938 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,720 Speaker 14: she's singing about things they're going through or about to 1939 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 14: go through. 1940 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so moving on to the feed, I don't disagree Sky. 1941 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know here, here's the thing. Kidding aside, okay, 1942 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,439 Speaker 1: as the kids say, I'm going to be real here. Okay. 1943 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,840 Speaker 1: There was a I think a bit epiphany for me, 1944 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: Scott happened when twenty five years ago, maybe not that, 1945 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:12,000 Speaker 1: but twenty years ago gen Con. Okay. I would see 1946 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,800 Speaker 1: the folks that would come in town for gen Con, 1947 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:19,680 Speaker 1: and like a lot of jocks, if you want to 1948 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,840 Speaker 1: use that term, I would snicker at the people that 1949 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,320 Speaker 1: came in dressed like their favorite Klingon or Darth Vader 1950 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,679 Speaker 1: or whatever walking around downtown and would go to almost 1951 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 1: gawk at it and like poke fun of it. Okay, 1952 01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 1: And then somebody pointed out to me, they said, you 1953 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,160 Speaker 1: know what, what's the difference between that and the guy 1954 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,040 Speaker 1: that's wearing a Peyton Manning jersey to go to a 1955 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 1: colts game. And I'm like, that's a very fair point. 1956 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,679 Speaker 1: And then I thought about it, Scott, and I thought, 1957 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,759 Speaker 1: when I go to Clemson games, I wear a pair 1958 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 1: of orange Oakley sunglasses. I would never wear orange Oakley 1959 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 1: sunglasses elsewhere, not because they're Oakley's, because they're orange. But 1960 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing it while I'm at the Clem game, and 1961 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: I wear a pair of like orange sweatpants that are 1962 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 1: Clemson sweatpants. I wouldn't do that normally. And then I thought, 1963 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,680 Speaker 1: you know what, Clemson is my gen con And who 1964 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,679 Speaker 1: am I to poke fun at other people? You do you? 1965 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,639 Speaker 1: We're all adults. You do you if it makes you happy, 1966 01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: you do you. And I could laugh or snicker at 1967 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,120 Speaker 1: people that get totally into the energy, the vibe, the 1968 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,080 Speaker 1: euphoria of a Tailor Swift concert. But you know, I 1969 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,439 Speaker 1: went to England and went to those two Oasis shows, 1970 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,040 Speaker 1: and the energy and the positivity and the camaraderie that 1971 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,720 Speaker 1: came with being around all of these other people that 1972 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,599 Speaker 1: shared the same soundtrack of importance in their lives as 1973 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,879 Speaker 1: what it meant to me was cool. And so therefore, 1974 01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:41,920 Speaker 1: when I look at people that go to a Tailor 1975 01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,000 Speaker 1: Swift concert, I'm like, who am I to say whether 1976 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 1: or not that's valid or invalid? Of what brings them joy. 1977 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,880 Speaker 1: So you do you? So I totally understand that. I 1978 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,799 Speaker 1: was just I'm genuinely curious as to what that reaction 1979 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 1: from people is about this personal news of hers. 1980 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,680 Speaker 14: Yeah, and no, I appreciate that entire in that we 1981 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 14: all have something we're probably obsessed with and you'll go 1982 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:09,160 Speaker 14: to different levels to either show it or to enjoy it, 1983 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,760 Speaker 14: whether it's traveling to concerts or traveling to games. Me 1984 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,720 Speaker 14: and you both do that, right, traveling for work, all 1985 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:17,439 Speaker 14: those different things that we enjoy that all come along 1986 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 14: part of it, for sure. So this it's funny because 1987 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,080 Speaker 14: of the timing too, right at the start of the 1988 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,360 Speaker 14: season and being on a big transaction day for the 1989 01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:27,479 Speaker 14: NFL and everything. 1990 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. 1991 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,679 Speaker 14: As long as whatever someone's obsessed with either brings them passionate, 1992 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,599 Speaker 14: doesn't tear anybody down or it negative good for you, 1993 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:35,679 Speaker 14: go enjoy it totally. 1994 01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get to the news about Caitlin Clark 1995 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 1: and Stephanie White said earlier five practices when you look 1996 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,759 Speaker 1: at their schedule, Scott knowing that now if in fact 1997 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,760 Speaker 1: they would like to see five practices before they can 1998 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,880 Speaker 1: see her on the floor, that to you would lead 1999 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 1: you to believe that her return could be win. And 2000 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 1: in addition to that, do you cross over a point 2001 01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: where you're like, now it's bet Now it's not as necessary. 2002 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,040 Speaker 14: In terms of the practices or the return in total. Well, 2003 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 14: let's begin being necessary. Let's begin with how long from 2004 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 14: the practb Yeah, from the practice standpoint, I would say 2005 01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,479 Speaker 14: you're probably looking at least another week. The thing I 2006 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,519 Speaker 14: wonder with what you reference with Steph is what do 2007 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,599 Speaker 14: you classify officially as a practice. Technically, yesterday was a 2008 01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,920 Speaker 14: film day, But if you're Caitlin and the staffers, you 2009 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 14: can easily get in there and get a workout in 2010 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 14: of some course, and you're obviously going to work in 2011 01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 14: some of the new girls as well as you're constantly 2012 01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,200 Speaker 14: having to sign players to seven day contracts. But realistically, 2013 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,760 Speaker 14: I'm looking about a week at out. After this road 2014 01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 14: trip that is La Golden State Phoenix, you play a 2015 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,800 Speaker 14: Chicago team that this Fever team have dominated all season long, 2016 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 14: winning all four games by an average of like twenty 2017 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 14: five points, a Washington team that is in the thick 2018 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 14: of the playoff race, and then that last game Minnesota. 2019 01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 14: The Links have already not only clinch, But I mean 2020 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 14: there are probably on the verge of nailing that number 2021 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,479 Speaker 14: one pick, and so that would be the ultimate meaningless game. 2022 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,280 Speaker 14: From a links standpoint, They're right, there would be a 2023 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,560 Speaker 14: good three games going into potentially the playoff situation. 2024 01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 1: Because at some point do you think and I get it. 2025 01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting because from a fan perspective and from an 2026 01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: organization perspective or two totally different things. Right, making the 2027 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,559 Speaker 1: playoffs is one thing. Feeling a you know that you 2028 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,519 Speaker 1: have a legitimate run in you is another. For example, 2029 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,000 Speaker 1: if Caitlin Clark was only available to let's say, play 2030 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,919 Speaker 1: one regular season game that eaks them into the playoffs 2031 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 1: and then goes into playoffs, do you believe then that 2032 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 1: they do it if they think that there is anything 2033 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,320 Speaker 1: other than one hundred percent. 2034 01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 14: From a health standpoint, to me, I don't know if 2035 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 14: one game's worth it. My thing all along is given 2036 01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,320 Speaker 14: that she is healthy and able to get through things. 2037 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,920 Speaker 14: Certainly I think it is incredibly important for her just 2038 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,479 Speaker 14: individually to come back, especially when you factor in how 2039 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,720 Speaker 14: long the offseason is, and like Tamika Catching's back in 2040 01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,479 Speaker 14: the day and all those pros, they go overseas right away, 2041 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,639 Speaker 14: they're going to Turkey and China and somewhere in Europe 2042 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,720 Speaker 14: to play. Caitlin's hasn't done that. She's not doing unrivaled 2043 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,640 Speaker 14: her next action. You're talking like mid May. That is 2044 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,600 Speaker 14: a lot both physically after not playing most of the 2045 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,719 Speaker 14: season and mentally for her girls so young, who loves 2046 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,680 Speaker 14: the game and is fiercely competitive. I think for all 2047 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,639 Speaker 14: of those reasons and more, if she can come back 2048 01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,280 Speaker 14: for at least a couple games, it's incredibly important. I'll 2049 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:33,679 Speaker 14: mention too, my mentality and all this has shifts. Seen 2050 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 14: others go through it. I saw Paul George do that 2051 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 14: in like twenty sixteen, suffer that injury, missed almost the 2052 01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,120 Speaker 14: entire season, came back for the final six games, and 2053 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 14: then could go into the offseason not focused on a return, 2054 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:48,720 Speaker 14: but powering up to the next season. Same thing with 2055 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,439 Speaker 14: TJ McConnell many years later. I suffered like a fractured 2056 01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,719 Speaker 14: wrist or thumb, had surgery on it. The team wasn't 2057 01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 14: going anywhere bound for the lottery, and I think he 2058 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 14: returned for the final ten game as or so in 2059 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 14: a season that was not playoff implications. But he said 2060 01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,760 Speaker 14: that was incredibly important. For him to return from that 2061 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 14: and so he could go into the offseason feeling healthy 2062 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,839 Speaker 14: and building upon it rather than you know, the lingering 2063 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,040 Speaker 14: of Okay, my return, how am I going to look? 2064 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,720 Speaker 14: How am I going to feel? You could put that 2065 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,439 Speaker 14: behind them. That's why I think it's important for Caitlin 2066 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 14: to return if she can. 2067 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,519 Speaker 1: Scott, what do you think in terms of you know, 2068 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 1: we talked to Stephanie White about this earlier, but when 2069 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,840 Speaker 1: you look at the backcourt play for the fever and 2070 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 1: the fact that they've had to almost overhaul their their backcourt, right, 2071 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, just based on injury, and I think they've 2072 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 1: got players that have done a good job with that. 2073 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,679 Speaker 1: But you know, Stephanie White was open about the fact 2074 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: that there has been a challenge of trying to maintain 2075 01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 1: the same style of play. Have you noticed any sort 2076 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:55,800 Speaker 1: of a pace or stylistic difference with Indiana now having 2077 01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 1: to utilize three new guards from the guards that they 2078 01:45:58,520 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 1: started the year with. Yeah. 2079 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,680 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think you can just see them playing a 2080 01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 14: little bit more basic offense, a lot more read and 2081 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,840 Speaker 14: react rather than offensive sets. I mean, with Caitlyn out there, 2082 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 14: you're playing through a Leah Boston, so much more the 2083 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,680 Speaker 14: pick and roll is just killer in there because you 2084 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,600 Speaker 14: sag off Kaitlyn, there's a three, you go off, you 2085 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,680 Speaker 14: double team Caitlyn and Alias slip into the basket for 2086 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 14: a layup or an easy five footer that she always 2087 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,559 Speaker 14: knocks down. I also think with these newcomers as well, 2088 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,120 Speaker 14: there's bound to be a lot of miscommunication, so you're 2089 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,720 Speaker 14: seeing several opportunities out there where a player maybe was 2090 01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:33,439 Speaker 14: supposed to be there. 2091 01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:34,519 Speaker 12: It's an end of shot clock. 2092 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 14: I think it slowed down a little bit and it's 2093 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,479 Speaker 14: less organized in a way that you would ordinarily think of, 2094 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:45,760 Speaker 14: with different play calls and sets and expectations, and much 2095 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,679 Speaker 14: more for them trying to get defensive stops and playing 2096 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:49,360 Speaker 14: in transition. 2097 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,880 Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest Fieldhouse Files, where you can 2098 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: read his work. Scott, The Pacers had a coaching change 2099 01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,360 Speaker 1: over the course of really the end of the week 2100 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 1: end of the week end. What can you tell us 2101 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 1: about that? Because initially when I saw that Mike Winer 2102 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 1: was leaving, I thought that it was because he was 2103 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:09,800 Speaker 1: interested in a job in New York. It looks like 2104 01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:11,920 Speaker 1: that is not going to be the case. What can 2105 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,560 Speaker 1: you tell us about changes on the bench for Indiana. 2106 01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:15,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, so sudden. 2107 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 14: You know, less than a month, Jacob before the start 2108 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 14: of training camp, right, That's not ordinarily where there are 2109 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,920 Speaker 14: changes like this. This is usually done in mid July, 2110 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,519 Speaker 14: so that was a little bit surprising. I saw Mike 2111 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,679 Speaker 14: when we were out for Vegas Summer League in early 2112 01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,600 Speaker 14: July as usual, as he was out there with the 2113 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 14: rest of the coaching staff. He's been with Rick Carlisle 2114 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,280 Speaker 14: since two thousand and eight. We have not gotten any 2115 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 14: clarity on this. He has not responded to messages at 2116 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,599 Speaker 14: this point, which is unlike him, and so I'm guessing 2117 01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 14: here that he's just taking family time and enjoying it. 2118 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,400 Speaker 14: It was not the easiest last couple of months for him, 2119 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,880 Speaker 14: as he lost his father in the spring. I don't 2120 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,920 Speaker 14: know what kind of factor that may be played in 2121 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,679 Speaker 14: all this, but it's certainly so sudden that it definitely 2122 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,160 Speaker 14: is is not your normal off season change here and 2123 01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,639 Speaker 14: now promoting Jim Boylan and then bringing in a familiar 2124 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,840 Speaker 14: face for Rick Carlisle, Johnny Carpenter, who was He spent 2125 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,840 Speaker 14: some time here in the Summer League three years ago 2126 01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,880 Speaker 14: with them and spent a majority of his time at 2127 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 14: the alma mater of Rick and Jenny Boosick at the 2128 01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,679 Speaker 14: University of Virginia. But this is a substantial change because 2129 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:24,479 Speaker 14: he's been Rick's right hand man, Winer has. He's handled 2130 01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,280 Speaker 14: a lot of the offense, a lot of the in game, 2131 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 14: end of game situations, and a lot of the let's 2132 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,320 Speaker 14: call them changes whenever the referees are emphasizing something or 2133 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 14: there's a unique way to handle a certain situation, the 2134 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,640 Speaker 14: specialty plays maybe is what I want to call them, 2135 01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,240 Speaker 14: or circumstances. Mike was in charge of all that. So 2136 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 14: this is definitely a substantial loss for a Pacers team 2137 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,080 Speaker 14: that otherwise with other than losing Miles, Turner has great 2138 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:52,240 Speaker 14: continuity on this roster. 2139 01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. You know, I'm curious in terms of, like, 2140 01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 1: for example, the offensive sets or schemes or areas of 2141 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:06,200 Speaker 1: assistance do we know yet kind of who who assumes 2142 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:10,000 Speaker 1: that responsibility. I know who assumes the seat right or 2143 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,120 Speaker 1: you know how the seats are shuffled, but the responsibilities 2144 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 1: do we know how that will be divvied? 2145 01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:16,160 Speaker 12: Not yet? 2146 01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,880 Speaker 14: And that's something that's evolved a great deal with on 2147 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,360 Speaker 14: Carlisle staff over the last several years. It was like 2148 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:25,160 Speaker 14: three years ago where he specifically went to a coordinator system, 2149 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,400 Speaker 14: and I think it was last year where he specifically 2150 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,280 Speaker 14: said they're going away from a coordinator system. Yet we 2151 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 14: do know, you know, Winer's involvement offense, we saw Jenny 2152 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,439 Speaker 14: Busick along with Jim Boylan, but primary Jenny at the 2153 01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 14: front of the bench running the defense and getting guys 2154 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 14: into the right spots. Maybe Lloyd Pierce takes over more. 2155 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,639 Speaker 14: I will say this is such a unique situation too, 2156 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,559 Speaker 14: in that when Tyreese is out there, he's the. 2157 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:49,639 Speaker 12: One getting them organized. 2158 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 14: Anyway, it'd be more the coach into game situations or 2159 01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:57,280 Speaker 14: out of bounds plays, after timeouts atos where you're really 2160 01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:01,559 Speaker 14: diagramming and organizing and things like that. But Lloyd Pierce 2161 01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 14: obviously has great responsibility on this staff. He's the lead assistant, 2162 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,120 Speaker 14: is in all the meetings and those sorts of things. 2163 01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,639 Speaker 14: But I think that's something we'll have a better idea 2164 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 14: of at the start of training camp. 2165 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:16,200 Speaker 1: Scott, you have seen Taylor Swift how many times in concert? 2166 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 1: Just once? 2167 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,080 Speaker 14: I couldn't get tickets for the life of me the 2168 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,639 Speaker 14: last couple of years. Nope, So just a one time 2169 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:25,559 Speaker 14: in Indy, right, Yeah, that was at Lucas Oil Stadium, 2170 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,479 Speaker 14: I want to say in twenty seventeen or something like that. 2171 01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 1: Because I hear a lot of people say that that 2172 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,400 Speaker 1: you can get that sometimes like the smart play is 2173 01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,439 Speaker 1: to go overseas to see her because the tickets are 2174 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,880 Speaker 1: cheaper and sometimes like even the hotels and everything. Right, 2175 01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:39,519 Speaker 1: I know, I. 2176 01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,720 Speaker 12: Learned about that the most from Laura Steele. I think 2177 01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 12: she did that. Didn't she go to like Shaine. 2178 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she went to Madrid maybe, yeah. 2179 01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe that was it. 2180 01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,559 Speaker 14: And in the seats are organized, I've later found out 2181 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,320 Speaker 14: if you purchase a seat on the floor, it's just 2182 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,760 Speaker 14: general admission and so it's all about when you get 2183 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,840 Speaker 14: there and maybe during the show you can go to 2184 01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,360 Speaker 14: one side to then the other and things like that. 2185 01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:02,799 Speaker 14: And the prices were like a fifth of the cost. 2186 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 14: So I would have absolutely done that if I knew 2187 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,960 Speaker 14: in time. That sounds like a great excuse. 2188 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,559 Speaker 1: So when, as I've mentioned before on this program, when 2189 01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,880 Speaker 1: I went and saw a concert in England and listen, 2190 01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm extremely fortunate and grateful to have been able to 2191 01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,479 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I'm not, by any stretch of 2192 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,640 Speaker 1: the imagination pretending that's something that people are just like, 2193 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 1: let's just go, you know what I mean. My cousin 2194 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: and I went and it was his kind of vision 2195 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,559 Speaker 1: and I will forever be grateful. But one of the 2196 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,640 Speaker 1: things I learned in outdoor concert venues in England is 2197 01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,479 Speaker 1: that people like to throw urine all over the place. 2198 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:34,840 Speaker 1: Now do you think that would take place in the 2199 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,439 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert over there? No? 2200 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,160 Speaker 12: I don't, nor have I ever heard of that? 2201 01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,479 Speaker 1: Are you serious? Oh yeah, So here's the thing. I 2202 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,599 Speaker 1: mentioned this before, but it's worth revisiting. So I think 2203 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:51,719 Speaker 1: this comes from British soccer culture, but an outdoor concert. 2204 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,360 Speaker 1: So this concert that I went to was they said 2205 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,080 Speaker 1: eighty thousand. I think it was more like one hundred thousand. 2206 01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:01,320 Speaker 1: If the NFL draft consensus was surveying, it was one 2207 01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:02,240 Speaker 1: point six million. 2208 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,800 Speaker 12: But I'd love that annual bit. 2209 01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:09,080 Speaker 1: That's right. So when you get a group of guys 2210 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,080 Speaker 1: that go to a concert or gals, I mean a 2211 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:13,680 Speaker 1: group of people that would go to a concert in 2212 01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,599 Speaker 1: England or a soccer match if it's outdoors, you get 2213 01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:20,000 Speaker 1: somebody that's the beer runner, because like you're in this compact, 2214 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, fish bowl area, And so they go and 2215 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,400 Speaker 1: they bring back, you know things of all the draft beers, 2216 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 1: and so you double fish your beers I mean, or 2217 01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,880 Speaker 1: for that matter, water whatever you're consuming liquid wise, but 2218 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean mostly beer is the culprit here. And then 2219 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,160 Speaker 1: if it comes time to use the restroom, it's really 2220 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 1: difficult to a get through the crowd and then be 2221 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 1: find your way back to where your group is. So 2222 01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 1: you use the cups. And then once your favorite song 2223 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,640 Speaker 1: comes on, or a song where you're just caught up 2224 01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,479 Speaker 1: in jubilation, you just hoist that bad Boys high in 2225 01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,160 Speaker 1: the air as you can. And this is what I learned. 2226 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,519 Speaker 1: This is why if you're going to a concert and 2227 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,760 Speaker 1: I reckon co in, Oh no, that's only like the 2228 01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,839 Speaker 1: front forty percent of the crowd. So the other sixty 2229 01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,200 Speaker 1: percent are fuddy dutties like me in the back, looking 2230 01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,200 Speaker 1: like my cousin and I must have looked at each 2231 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,280 Speaker 1: other and just broke out and laughter like a hundred times. 2232 01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:18,680 Speaker 1: By just moisture and cups flying everywhere crazy. I'm not 2233 01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 1: even sure what to say to that. 2234 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:21,720 Speaker 14: I have no interest in that, but I did have 2235 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 14: interest in going over to those those concerts. I mean 2236 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 14: it was Taylor I think would be phenomenal. 2237 01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Taylor Swift fans are doing that. 2238 01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,560 Speaker 1: Per Se. What upcoming do you have working in Fieldhouse files? 2239 01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, so we had Tyrese Haliburton back in town over 2240 01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,559 Speaker 14: the weekend, so that was great to talk with him 2241 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,559 Speaker 14: and also been going to work on a feature. I 2242 01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,519 Speaker 14: asked Caitlin about rehabbing and being there right sidestep with 2243 01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,439 Speaker 14: with Haliburton, and then I was able to ask him 2244 01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 14: about it. 2245 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 12: So it's remarkable, Jake, how this out of boot. 2246 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 14: Correct, he does not have to be in at full time, 2247 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,360 Speaker 14: but for example, during his camp on was Saturday, that's 2248 01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:02,679 Speaker 14: how he was getting it around. He can go and shoose, 2249 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,439 Speaker 14: but not full time. He's off the scooter is the 2250 01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,160 Speaker 14: main development, but he is still in a boot and such. 2251 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,680 Speaker 14: But those two have been rehabbing essentially together in the 2252 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,280 Speaker 14: weight room together, and so I think that's a unique 2253 01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,760 Speaker 14: story about how high everybody in this town was and 2254 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,800 Speaker 14: things were going. And now the two biggest stars are 2255 01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 14: rehabbing and doing so somewhat together. 2256 01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy stuff for sure. All right, Scott, appreciate 2257 01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,800 Speaker 1: the time as always, absolutely, thank you, Jake. We will 2258 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,280 Speaker 1: take a look and find out more in terms of 2259 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 1: cutdowns for the Colts. Obviously they have until four o'clock today. 2260 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,680 Speaker 1: I have not seen since we have been on the 2261 01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,320 Speaker 1: air whether or not there are any of those Scott 2262 01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,360 Speaker 1: League or excuse me, Eddie league wide that have been 2263 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 1: announced that have been overall surprises. I mean Isaiah Simmons, 2264 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,440 Speaker 1: who was a top ten pick a couple of years 2265 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,600 Speaker 1: ago in Arizona, didn't work out for him there. He's 2266 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,040 Speaker 1: one of those that and at some point teams one 2267 01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:01,200 Speaker 1: would think are going to get on board with this. 2268 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:06,000 Speaker 1: And that is I understand falling in love with just 2269 01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:10,560 Speaker 1: overall versatility and athleticism when scouting out players at the 2270 01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 1: NFL level. But at the same time, it's one thing 2271 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:16,560 Speaker 1: to be an athlete. You still got to be able 2272 01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,720 Speaker 1: to play the game. And I just think that there 2273 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,120 Speaker 1: are players that people they get an opportunity because people 2274 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,680 Speaker 1: are like, oh man, this guy just you know, he's 2275 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,040 Speaker 1: an athlete that can cover the cover ground and et cetera, 2276 01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 1: et cetera, and it's like, yeah, but you still got 2277 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:30,760 Speaker 1: to play the game though, right. 2278 01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:34,680 Speaker 2: Let me let me I've been refreshing Joel A. Erickson's 2279 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 2: Twitter feed religiously. Jake Ulyss has Bentley the fourth no 2280 01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 2: update yet as of right now, he's still on the roster. 2281 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 13: Yes, it's my understanding, you list says. Now, a lot 2282 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 13: of people are curious as to what exactly my understanding is. 2283 01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,960 Speaker 13: He actually went out himself and today is playing in 2284 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 13: a Croqueta tournament in the Highlands, and so he's not 2285 01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,480 Speaker 13: even worried about whether or not in the phone rings. 2286 01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,800 Speaker 13: He's just gonna let the process fall as it may. 2287 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:06,320 Speaker 2: Isaiah Land was waived by the Colts today as well. 2288 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:11,680 Speaker 1: This, by the way, from Cody earlier on the text 2289 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:16,120 Speaker 1: line when I was talking about defensive backs. Terrible take 2290 01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:20,360 Speaker 1: by Jake Lol. Ballard's first pick was Malie Hooker, Quincy Wilson, 2291 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:24,840 Speaker 1: Rocky Sen. Brent's Ballard can't evaluate secondary either. I'm just 2292 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 1: saying a year ago when he said that he needs 2293 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 1: to see the guys that he has in the defensive 2294 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 1: backfield before he can make a determination. I thought last 2295 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,040 Speaker 1: year some of those guys, Brent's being one of them, 2296 01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Jones being one of them. I can appreciate the 2297 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 1: fact that he said, look, we got to go out 2298 01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:45,280 Speaker 1: here and let these guys play, and I thought that 2299 01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:50,560 Speaker 1: was in retrospect. That was the right approach in retrospect, 2300 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,480 Speaker 1: the right approach. Hey, Jake, this is Marcia. I'd like 2301 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,920 Speaker 1: to add to your female listeners. Tried calling but couldn't 2302 01:56:55,920 --> 01:57:00,360 Speaker 1: get through. Marsha. Marsha, Marsha, we love it. Thank you. 2303 01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 1: You are officially Marcia female listener number twenty six. Eddie, 2304 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:11,040 Speaker 1: do you haven't have the breaking newshounder by chance? This 2305 01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 1: just jan We now have twenty six female listeners. Love 2306 01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 1: it so Marsha, welcome on board. We're happy to have you. 2307 01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,960 Speaker 1: Marsha maybe is a longtime listener. I'm not sure I 2308 01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 1: do agree with this. That came from Pennsylvania. Anthony Richardson 2309 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,000 Speaker 1: is done in this city. It's time to march for Arch. 2310 01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:33,880 Speaker 1: Only problem with that is number one, and I will 2311 01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:43,320 Speaker 1: stand by this. I don't know that arch Manning would 2312 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:48,200 Speaker 1: come here. I've said it before and I'll say it again. 2313 01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know for certain that arch Manning would come here. 2314 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:51,840 Speaker 1: But more so, I don't think the CULTU are going 2315 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:53,640 Speaker 1: to be in that position. Number One, I think arch 2316 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:55,320 Speaker 1: Manning is going to go back to Texas next year. 2317 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 1: Would not surprise me at all. Number Two, we haven't 2318 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 1: even seen arch man play a full season, and number 2319 01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, we have no idea. The pedigree would indicate 2320 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,000 Speaker 1: that he's going to be one heck of a player, 2321 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:12,160 Speaker 1: but we don't know that for certain. And Number three 2322 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,760 Speaker 1: you're going to have to be if he does turn 2323 01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,200 Speaker 1: out to be that guy that is worth like the 2324 01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:21,120 Speaker 1: March for Arch, then there are other franchises you're going 2325 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,680 Speaker 1: to be contending with that are all going to be 2326 01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:26,680 Speaker 1: in that same situation and wanting to take him at 2327 01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 1: the top of the draft. I just hope this listen 2328 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:38,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to Arch Manning. I hope by all 2329 01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 1: account that he is a wonderful player. I don't have 2330 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,200 Speaker 1: any reasonab believe he's anything other than I mean, his grandfather, 2331 01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 1: Archie Manning, is one of the true gentlemen to ever 2332 01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:53,040 Speaker 1: play the game. And I remember vividly. I do not 2333 01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,600 Speaker 1: know Archie Manning well, disingenuous to say that I do, 2334 01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,440 Speaker 1: but I've been around him a fair amount of times, 2335 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 1: just from his time when Peyton Manning was here for 2336 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:07,320 Speaker 1: so long, and I recall once I was working a 2337 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:09,520 Speaker 1: golf outing. There was a golf outing and I don't 2338 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,600 Speaker 1: remember who it was or for what it was for, 2339 01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:13,440 Speaker 1: but I was working at Channel six at the time 2340 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,320 Speaker 1: and went out to cover this golf outing, and we 2341 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,440 Speaker 1: do what we call a vosat, which is where you 2342 01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,720 Speaker 1: get a voiceover and then a sound on tape is 2343 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,920 Speaker 1: what it's called. You folks have seen this on the 2344 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,840 Speaker 1: news when you're watching the local news and they show 2345 01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 1: you they say earlier today and you see video and 2346 01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,640 Speaker 1: then they say afterwards, Archie Manning had this same boom. 2347 01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 1: That's a vosat. So I go out to get a 2348 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,760 Speaker 1: vosat because Archie Manning was in town for this golf outing. 2349 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,760 Speaker 1: So I go out and he's like on whole eighteen 2350 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,880 Speaker 1: or whatever sixteen. It was a shotgun golf tournament, and 2351 01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm interviewing him and we had taken a golf cart 2352 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,960 Speaker 1: out to what to find him on the golf course. 2353 01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 1: They knew we were coming. I interview him, and then 2354 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,120 Speaker 1: it just so happened. He needed I can't remember the circumstances, 2355 01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:02,200 Speaker 1: but he needed a ride back to the clubhouse, and 2356 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:05,040 Speaker 1: he says, I'll just ride with you with you guys, 2357 02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,000 Speaker 1: And it was myself and the photog and it might 2358 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,480 Speaker 1: have been his partner as well, whoever he's golfing with. 2359 02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,080 Speaker 1: So anyway. At any rate, I ended up in a 2360 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:17,440 Speaker 1: golf cart with Archie Manning for a three minute ride. 2361 02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,360 Speaker 1: And during that ride he told me this story that 2362 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I just thought was so cool when he said, I'll 2363 02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:27,480 Speaker 1: never forget. When I was at old Miss, my mother 2364 02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,480 Speaker 1: would write me a letter every week, and every week 2365 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,400 Speaker 1: in the letter, she would close the letter by saying, 2366 02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:39,160 Speaker 1: don't remember, don't forget, to always remember to be kind 2367 02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,200 Speaker 1: to people, because the day is going to come where 2368 02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,680 Speaker 1: you're no longer Archie Manning. And he said, and she 2369 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,760 Speaker 1: was right, because my playing career came to an end 2370 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and I was living in New Orleans, and he said, 2371 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:56,480 Speaker 1: and I was very quickly just becoming another guy that 2372 02:00:56,640 --> 02:00:59,960 Speaker 1: was Archie, the guy that lived in the garden district, 2373 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to know the saint's legend and whatever else 2374 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,760 Speaker 1: he said. And then he chuckled, and he said, and 2375 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:09,840 Speaker 1: then Peyton got to college, and then I became Archie Manning, 2376 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Peyton's father. But he had such a humility and down 2377 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:15,080 Speaker 1: to earth nature about him that it led me somewhat 2378 02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:20,200 Speaker 1: to be surprised when Eli Manning spurned the Chargers and said, like, no, 2379 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:21,960 Speaker 1: I will not sign with you. And I still don't 2380 02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:24,080 Speaker 1: know the exact reason of that. I'm sure it's out there. 2381 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:28,080 Speaker 1: But then when Eli Manning was here for the Super Bowl, 2382 02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,400 Speaker 1: and Archie and Olivia Manning, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning's 2383 02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,600 Speaker 1: parents were here, and that was during the uncertainty of 2384 02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's future in Indianapolis, and in covering that Super 2385 02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Bowl and being on Radio Row and talking to him, 2386 02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:44,960 Speaker 1: then he was very grounded. I'm talking about Archie Manning 2387 02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,760 Speaker 1: and just down to earth and matter of fact and 2388 02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,760 Speaker 1: realistic about the uncertainty of all of it in terms 2389 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,280 Speaker 1: of his family's history and place in Indianapolis and et cetera. 2390 02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:58,800 Speaker 1: He has never been anything other than a completely humble, appreciative, 2391 02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:03,520 Speaker 1: down to earth gentleman. And you know he is the 2392 02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:08,600 Speaker 1: grandfather obviously of arch Manning. But because of the situation 2393 02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:15,000 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, I understand also the I think Peyton 2394 02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:17,760 Speaker 1: in particular was very hurt by the way things ended here. 2395 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:20,920 Speaker 1: And I know that Peyton Manning has come back and 2396 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:24,480 Speaker 1: done all of the things that are necessary when the 2397 02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Colts have asked or wanted him to do so, and 2398 02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:30,280 Speaker 1: fans are appreciative of that, But I just it would 2399 02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,120 Speaker 1: not surprise me if arch Manning did not want to 2400 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:39,240 Speaker 1: play here, I you know what I mean. I don't 2401 02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,160 Speaker 1: know that it's just a gut, but I think that 2402 02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:44,520 Speaker 1: there are a million other teams that are gonna want 2403 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:46,480 Speaker 1: if he is in fact what we think he is 2404 02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,080 Speaker 1: going to be. But I hope the best for him 2405 02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,520 Speaker 1: at Texas, mostly when they open up, because I hope 2406 02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,920 Speaker 1: he wins their opening game by twenty eight or more 2407 02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:56,800 Speaker 1: because they're playing Ohio State and I think Ohio State's 2408 02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,080 Speaker 1: still going to end up in the College Football National 2409 02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Championship this year regardless of what happens. But that's talk 2410 02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:04,280 Speaker 1: for a different day. All Right, we will cruise it. 2411 02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,360 Speaker 1: We will let you know the latest on what's happening 2412 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:11,840 Speaker 1: in terms of NFL announcements and potential releases over the 2413 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:15,520 Speaker 1: next ninety minutes as we return here on Craney Company. 2414 02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:23,080 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that if you are, Ulyssa, is Bentley 2415 02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the fourth. If you are, I'm trying to think of 2416 02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,360 Speaker 1: other players that I mean, I think Riley Leonard's safe, 2417 02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:32,240 Speaker 1: but I'll just throw him in for the sake of it. 2418 02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it's Jake. See you like, do we have Ulysses 2419 02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Bentley's reaction to my doing the voice for him. By 2420 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the way, I have to pull it. What do you 2421 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:50,320 Speaker 1: call it when you get a steak sandwich and there's 2422 02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the juice on the side. What do they call that? 2423 02:03:54,680 --> 02:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, is azou or something like that? As 2424 02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,280 Speaker 1: you as You, by the way, is apparently released a Joe. 2425 02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, that's his name, I know, but it's as 2426 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,520 Speaker 1: you as you. It's a Joe Joe, I know, but 2427 02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:11,960 Speaker 1: I go with a you as You's same spelling out 2428 02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:15,040 Speaker 1: of respect for a Joe Joe. Well, we don't have 2429 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:20,839 Speaker 1: to say it anymore, right. Uh. He has been waived 2430 02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:26,440 Speaker 1: this according to Joel a Ericson. Isaiah Land waved. According 2431 02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:35,160 Speaker 1: to Joel a Ericson, also Sean McKeon tight end waved. 2432 02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Stop me if any of these are a surprise to you. 2433 02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Defensive lineman Marcus Haines has been waived. Oh no, Landon Parker. 2434 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:46,120 Speaker 1: He was one of them early on that I was 2435 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,160 Speaker 1: pulling for Landon Parker. I don't think we ever saw 2436 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Landon Parker step on the field to my knowledge, Uh, 2437 02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:58,360 Speaker 1: Land and Parker has been waved wide receiver. Okay, here 2438 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:04,120 Speaker 1: is one that is a little bit surprised. If you 2439 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:09,080 Speaker 1: look at their defensive back room, Eddie, and you look 2440 02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,720 Speaker 1: at fringe defensive backs? Are you looking at their roster 2441 02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,640 Speaker 1: by chance? On their like the depth chart for their roster, 2442 02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:18,760 Speaker 1: although that may have been what's that? Yes? Who do 2443 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:22,320 Speaker 1: they have listed in terms of their defensive backs in 2444 02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:28,320 Speaker 1: their corners specifically? So your starters would be Tavarius Ward, 2445 02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Jones, and Kenny Moore. Backups Xavian Howard, Mackay Blackman 2446 02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and Alex Johnson who was released slash Wave. Hey, how 2447 02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:41,040 Speaker 1: about their name? 2448 02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Juju Brintce you were, well, that would have been Alex 2449 02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,040 Speaker 2: Johnson in Chris Lamns, who was on the roster as well. 2450 02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Sammy Womack was waived earlier. 2451 02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Chrys La Mons was getting a lot of time during preseason. 2452 02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Chrys Lamns waived that that surprised me a little bit 2453 02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:03,200 Speaker 1: because he's been there. He's kind of been has he 2454 02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,800 Speaker 1: not like a guy that they've given some time to. 2455 02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:11,720 Speaker 1: Coleman Owen released Wesley French. That one surprises me a 2456 02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:14,240 Speaker 1: little bit because he has been a guy that has 2457 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:20,120 Speaker 1: played on the line for them. They've utilized him in 2458 02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:24,160 Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. But at the same time, 2459 02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Wesley French at the center position because of the fact 2460 02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,880 Speaker 1: that Danty Danny Pincher obviously was in front of him. 2461 02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:36,200 Speaker 1: But if you need Penner as an insurance policy anywhere else, 2462 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,480 Speaker 1: French becomes valuable at that spot and has been there 2463 02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:40,040 Speaker 1: in the past. 2464 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:41,920 Speaker 2: But he has gone at the end of an era, Jake, 2465 02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:42,920 Speaker 2: no more French Fries. 2466 02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Well, Fries is out too, right, he 2467 02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,560 Speaker 1: is with the Minnesota Vikings. That's what I mean. Yep, 2468 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,960 Speaker 1: that's the official end of an era. Once the Fries 2469 02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,920 Speaker 1: are gone, Who needs the French? Is that what you're saying? 2470 02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:54,080 Speaker 8: Uh? 2471 02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Huh? Can they get a guy? Was he hoping for 2472 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:58,720 Speaker 1: somebody whose last name is Toast? 2473 02:06:59,280 --> 02:06:59,600 Speaker 4: Then? 2474 02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:05,240 Speaker 1: The big one also is the fact that Jeelannie Woods 2475 02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:08,080 Speaker 1: is expected to be released. I don't know that that's 2476 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:12,640 Speaker 1: an overly surprising move with Jelannie Woods. It just you know, 2477 02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:14,240 Speaker 1: Woods is a guy that they it was a third 2478 02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:16,440 Speaker 1: round pick. He was a big tight end. He was 2479 02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of in that Moaly Cox mode of like basketball 2480 02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:23,520 Speaker 1: sized tight end, that kind of thing. Had played quarterback 2481 02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:27,720 Speaker 1: in high school, was injured not once but twice, set 2482 02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:30,560 Speaker 1: out two seasons due to injury, and I think they 2483 02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:33,880 Speaker 1: wanted to really give him time an opportunity before they 2484 02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,760 Speaker 1: could make full assessment, and now they have been able 2485 02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:39,320 Speaker 1: to make that assessment, and I and clearly decided that 2486 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:45,000 Speaker 1: just didn't fit in that room because you got Moaly Cox, obviously, 2487 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, Drew Ogletree, and Will Mallory, and I think 2488 02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Will Mallory stepped in front of Jelanie Woods in that 2489 02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:56,440 Speaker 1: depth chart, and therefore that's where that decision was made. 2490 02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:00,000 Speaker 1: So more kind of coming out here in the last 2491 02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:03,920 Speaker 1: couple of minutes in regards to those I I just 2492 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,400 Speaker 1: still don't think that there's anybody that's going to jump 2493 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 1: out and really shock you. We have had that in 2494 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,800 Speaker 1: the past where there are guys that you go, oh, 2495 02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:13,240 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's that surprises me. But I don't 2496 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that that's going to be the case. 2497 02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,520 Speaker 2: They're going to have to do something on linebacker Jake 2498 02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:21,120 Speaker 2: because of Jalen Carlis being on IR. 2499 02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:23,440 Speaker 1: So right now have they officially done that yet? There 2500 02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:24,960 Speaker 1: was thought that they were going to put them on 2501 02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:26,440 Speaker 1: IR with intention of return. 2502 02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Obviously, these won't be officially announced until sometime around four 2503 02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:33,080 Speaker 2: o'clock or later, but the expectation is he'll be on 2504 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,320 Speaker 2: the ir with the designation to return. So you're the 2505 02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:37,960 Speaker 2: healthy linebackers right now. For the for the Colts that 2506 02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,520 Speaker 2: they have based off the reporting that we've gotten from 2507 02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,600 Speaker 2: Joel a Ericson and James Boyd and others, is that 2508 02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:48,840 Speaker 2: it's Cameron mcgron, Zire Franklin and Joe Bachi. Those are 2509 02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:53,120 Speaker 2: the only linebackers on the roster. I could be wrong there, 2510 02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,320 Speaker 2: but those are the only three that I believe we're 2511 02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:55,880 Speaker 2: still around. 2512 02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:58,360 Speaker 1: The Other thing, Eddie, that you have to keep in 2513 02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:03,920 Speaker 1: mind is the fact that when you see the fifty 2514 02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:07,680 Speaker 1: three man roster that is submitted to the NFL today 2515 02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:09,600 Speaker 1: at four o'clock, that does not mean that that's the 2516 02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:12,880 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster that you will see opening up 2517 02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:16,920 Speaker 1: on September seventh against the Dolphins, because and I will 2518 02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, Steven and I talked about this earlier. I 2519 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,720 Speaker 1: think it's somewhat safe to say or estimate that the 2520 02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:30,960 Speaker 1: bottom three perhaps could be players that are not their 2521 02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,280 Speaker 1: name is not being submitted today at four. They are 2522 02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:41,480 Speaker 1: picked up from elsewhere as they cycle through waivers, and 2523 02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:44,680 Speaker 1: therefore then you know, the Colts pick them up, and 2524 02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:49,120 Speaker 1: there's always a player you know, you think about, I'm 2525 02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:57,800 Speaker 1: looking right now, November twenty third at Kansas City, wouldn't 2526 02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:00,000 Speaker 1: it be the most Colts thing ever? If on November 2527 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,360 Speaker 1: number twenty third at Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes, by the way, 2528 02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,400 Speaker 1: never beating the Colts. If the Colts go in to 2529 02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City and I'm not even saying win the game, 2530 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:15,560 Speaker 1: but shockingly play well and are like right there in 2531 02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the mix with Kansas City, and it's because of some player, 2532 02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:26,640 Speaker 1: like a corner that makes a key interception, or some 2533 02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,440 Speaker 1: running back that comes in because Jonathan Taylor's hurt and 2534 02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's Ulyssa's Bentley, whatever that comes in. 2535 02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:36,240 Speaker 1: That was a fringe fifty three man guy. That's a 2536 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:38,520 Speaker 1: late sign. And it's like, what a story this is. 2537 02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Here's the guy, you know, Jonathan Williams or you know, 2538 02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:43,640 Speaker 1: one of those players that just Brad Pyatt like comes 2539 02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,440 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and makes a play and you're like, yeah, 2540 02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,920 Speaker 1: that was a guy that was left for dead by 2541 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Seattle or Carolina and the Colts picked him up and 2542 02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:57,000 Speaker 1: now here he is. And in mid November, late November, 2543 02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:59,280 Speaker 1: they're going into Kansas City and Arrowhead and a rackets 2544 02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,360 Speaker 1: environment and this, this guy steps up and makes place, 2545 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,200 Speaker 1: next man up. You know those kinds of things. I mean, 2546 02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:08,120 Speaker 1: we have seen that before john S. Next, we'll hand 2547 02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:09,760 Speaker 1: it off to him, find out what he's got planned 2548 02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:13,640 Speaker 1: for his big program. As we roll along here Tuesday edition, 2549 02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Quarying Company. I'm telling you, I'm actually kind of nervous 2550 02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,120 Speaker 1: for Ulyssa Bentley the fourth. There's no It's been a 2551 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:25,160 Speaker 1: long time since there's a player that I've more been 2552 02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:26,360 Speaker 1: rooting for to make the roster. 2553 02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, Derek Sluquel last year you were read. 2554 02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:30,400 Speaker 1: I know, but that was you know, we kind of 2555 02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:33,920 Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea there, did we not? Right? True? 2556 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:39,000 Speaker 1: This chair is very loud. Is that translating over the radio? 2557 02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, translating, Yeah, transferring. The one that does 2558 02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:54,280 Speaker 1: is when you're when you're moving your mic. Really yeah, okay, 2559 02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,840 Speaker 1: sorry about that. I won't move my mic anymore, although 2560 02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:59,520 Speaker 1: it helps if I bring it over to a little 2561 02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:06,640 Speaker 1: bit sort of hear you know what I mean. I 2562 02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:15,440 Speaker 1: thought the answer from Stephanie White was very interesting when 2563 02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:18,320 Speaker 1: I asked her about the number of practices that they 2564 02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,880 Speaker 1: have had since Caitlin Clark started like kind of you know, 2565 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:29,120 Speaker 1: putting the shoes back on, so to speak. And the 2566 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,800 Speaker 1: reason I say that she said no life practices for 2567 02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,400 Speaker 1: her yet, correct, and she says she wants to see 2568 02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:37,360 Speaker 1: five of them before she gets onto the floor. 2569 02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:37,600 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2570 02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:39,760 Speaker 2: I think that's the first time she's she or anyone 2571 02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,879 Speaker 2: who's like publicly stated what the you know, the baseline 2572 02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:44,840 Speaker 2: or the benchmark is that they want to see before 2573 02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:45,440 Speaker 2: she returns. 2574 02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:50,400 Speaker 1: That's the thing? Is it? That makes me wonder? You know? 2575 02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:56,560 Speaker 1: And I probably should have asked this specifically, but how 2576 02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:59,520 Speaker 1: many opportunities for practice are they're going to be when 2577 02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you look at their schedule, right? I mean that's the 2578 02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:08,880 Speaker 1: that's the thing that jumps out at you. Of Well, 2579 02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:11,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, if you want to see five live practices, 2580 02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:13,720 Speaker 1: how many chances are you going to get? Because they 2581 02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:18,200 Speaker 1: obviously in action tonight take it on the Seattle storm, right. 2582 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a huge week for them, Jake tonight, 2583 02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:24,480 Speaker 2: seven o'clock. I'll have pregame coverage right here at six 2584 02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,600 Speaker 2: forty five. Of course they play Seattle tonight. They have 2585 02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:29,920 Speaker 2: the head to head at the moment over the uh 2586 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,920 Speaker 2: over the storm. But things are so convoluted right now 2587 02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:37,600 Speaker 2: for spots six, seven, eight, and then Los Angeles, who's 2588 02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:41,080 Speaker 2: out of the picture now looking in for the last 2589 02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,680 Speaker 2: couple of spots with less than you know, eight games 2590 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:45,960 Speaker 2: to go, because if the Fever win tonight, then they 2591 02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,800 Speaker 2: would be sixth in the standing. If they lose tonight, 2592 02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:52,760 Speaker 2: then it becomes very dire with how the things are 2593 02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,160 Speaker 2: looking because in terms of teams around them, Fever have 2594 02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:57,000 Speaker 2: the head head over Seattle. They do not have the 2595 02:13:57,040 --> 02:14:00,320 Speaker 2: head to head over Golden State or Los Angeles, but 2596 02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:02,480 Speaker 2: they do have a game left against each of those 2597 02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:06,520 Speaker 2: teams coming up on a West coast road trip that 2598 02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:09,920 Speaker 2: starts on Friday against the Sparks, Sunday against Golden State, 2599 02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:13,120 Speaker 2: and then concludes on Tuesday in Phoenix. 2600 02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:16,800 Speaker 1: By the way, if you are interested in going to 2601 02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a Colts game this year and you do not have 2602 02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:20,600 Speaker 1: cold season tickets, there's a chance that you can do 2603 02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:23,760 Speaker 1: so because and you'll hear me talking more about this 2604 02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:27,720 Speaker 1: leading up to it, but our friends at Premiere Weight 2605 02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Loss Indy right now have for September if you sign 2606 02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:34,760 Speaker 1: up in September for an initial consultation at PWL Indie 2607 02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:37,360 Speaker 1: dot com, not only are they waiving the sign up 2608 02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:40,080 Speaker 1: fee for Premiere Weight Loss, but in addition to that, 2609 02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:42,440 Speaker 1: if you use my name and I'm begging that you do, 2610 02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm asking that you do. I'm requesting you John obviously 2611 02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:48,040 Speaker 1: as well. But if you do, then you get entered 2612 02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:52,040 Speaker 1: into a drawing for Colts tickets against the Arizona Cardinals. 2613 02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:54,080 Speaker 1: And those are eight throw tickets, so very very good 2614 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:57,800 Speaker 1: seats and we would love no matter which program it 2615 02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,480 Speaker 1: is where you hear about that from me a weight 2616 02:15:00,520 --> 02:15:02,640 Speaker 1: loss if you were going to go in there and 2617 02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:06,200 Speaker 1: get that free September consultation and sign up. Once you 2618 02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:10,480 Speaker 1: sign up, you are entered for that drawing. JMV has arrived. 2619 02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:12,400 Speaker 1: He is checking probably right now to make sure there 2620 02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,040 Speaker 1: are not any last minute cuts that he was. 2621 02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:18,640 Speaker 15: Manter oasis over there. Are you one of the Gallagher brothers? 2622 02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:24,760 Speaker 15: Are you a lost Gallagher bro man? You are listen? 2623 02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:27,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned it yesterday. It's like it's fifty five degrees 2624 02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:29,480 Speaker 1: out when I left the house this morning. There's no doubt. 2625 02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:30,400 Speaker 1: How sucks. 2626 02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:33,080 Speaker 15: You can't tell me that people actually like this crap 2627 02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:34,960 Speaker 15: in August. It's not supposed to be this one, I 2628 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:38,880 Speaker 15: would agree. It feels like late Setember, it feels like October. 2629 02:15:38,920 --> 02:15:41,120 Speaker 15: But it's going to get back to normal though, right. 2630 02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, is it? 2631 02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:45,840 Speaker 15: The problem is you got a lot of pools out there, 2632 02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:47,160 Speaker 15: and it's going to be out of side, out of 2633 02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:50,240 Speaker 15: mine because of football coming up here on Saturdays and Sundays. 2634 02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:55,400 Speaker 1: And that's what sucks. I mean, it's like a premature ending. 2635 02:15:56,440 --> 02:16:02,000 Speaker 15: Excuse me to our summer even Sure, I've got a 2636 02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:06,839 Speaker 15: great deal of history with premature endings, but not to summer. 2637 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Not with the roommate from Bedford right, Oh, yeah, with 2638 02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Chloe the cat she got knocked up. It's by somebody else. 2639 02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:16,840 Speaker 1: She didn't give me the time of day. Now, did 2640 02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:20,680 Speaker 1: you did you ever meet the fella? I did, Yeah, 2641 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:23,160 Speaker 1: I did. I think they have long since been divorced. 2642 02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:26,880 Speaker 1: She was, She's awesome. He's a good girl. But she 2643 02:16:26,920 --> 02:16:30,000 Speaker 1: had a long haired Himalayan cat. Really, that only came 2644 02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:32,880 Speaker 1: around when I opened a can of tuna. I was 2645 02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,840 Speaker 1: a big time tuna eater out of the can. Uh 2646 02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:39,760 Speaker 1: huh so excellent protein. Yes, what's on the Big Show today? 2647 02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,480 Speaker 1: John Little Rakestraw? I got to do college. I've got 2648 02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:43,840 Speaker 1: to do high school with Greg. I know. 2649 02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:47,080 Speaker 15: Friday number one was pretty exciting. And then Joel from 2650 02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:50,920 Speaker 15: the Stars going to join us with the cuts. Very 2651 02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:55,520 Speaker 15: ordinary cut down day, isn't it nothing? 2652 02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, your list is Bentley the fourth gonna make 2653 02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:02,800 Speaker 1: it practice squad. I think that's probably it, right, That's 2654 02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:04,640 Speaker 1: probably a lot of these guys. They get caught up, 2655 02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:07,320 Speaker 1: get brought back to the practice squad. I would imagine 2656 02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:10,080 Speaker 1: the practice squad is not bad money, though, man, I 2657 02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:12,119 Speaker 1: would take it. What is it? What do you get 2658 02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,440 Speaker 1: paid to Eddie on the practice squad? Buddy? I thought 2659 02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:16,400 Speaker 1: somebody said that if you go the year on the 2660 02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:20,880 Speaker 1: practice squad and then get called up for like you know, Sunday, 2661 02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,960 Speaker 1: like four games or something, that you can make, it's 2662 02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:24,760 Speaker 1: like close to two hundred, right. Nice. 2663 02:17:24,959 --> 02:17:27,800 Speaker 15: Hey, you're gonna bring Shannon to Mystic Waters on Saturday 2664 02:17:27,879 --> 02:17:29,280 Speaker 15: night for the j MV takeover. 2665 02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:32,920 Speaker 1: I unfortunately, what here's the thing. I'm gonna be in 2666 02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:36,360 Speaker 1: Nashville for IndyCar which leads me to believe that Shannon 2667 02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:37,720 Speaker 1: probably will be at Mystic Waters. 2668 02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:40,520 Speaker 15: Well, yes, that'd be awesome. Ever, come up, I've got 2669 02:17:40,560 --> 02:17:45,160 Speaker 15: a cabin. Really, the cabin's rocking. Don't bother knocking, listen, 2670 02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:50,879 Speaker 15: I got a cab comfortable quickly. I've got a cabin 2671 02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:53,280 Speaker 15: up actually for two days, Friday night and Saturday night. 2672 02:17:53,320 --> 02:17:56,119 Speaker 15: That's beautiful up there, right. It is awesome Brent Hoolverson 2673 02:17:56,840 --> 02:17:58,280 Speaker 15: for what two or three years now, yep. And they 2674 02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:01,080 Speaker 15: do a great job with it. And there will be 2675 02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:04,240 Speaker 15: plenty of all that you need for the Labor Day 2676 02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:06,520 Speaker 15: weekend bender the third annual this weekend. 2677 02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:08,640 Speaker 1: That will be fun the takeover. Do you have a 2678 02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:09,440 Speaker 1: theme for the takeover? 2679 02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:11,760 Speaker 15: I think we'll probably go most of the time when 2680 02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:13,879 Speaker 15: we stick with the eighties, everybody likes it, but we 2681 02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:15,560 Speaker 15: may go all over the map. And a shout out 2682 02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:17,480 Speaker 15: to Dan Pantos, who's going to be back here doing 2683 02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:19,920 Speaker 15: stuff too, so I can count on him. It's gonna 2684 02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:21,480 Speaker 15: be awesome too. We're gonna be up there on Friday 2685 02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,760 Speaker 15: with the afternoon show, Sid's and Noblesville Tavern tour stop 2686 02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:25,400 Speaker 15: on Thursday. 2687 02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Greatness, awesome. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. All right. 2688 02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:30,600 Speaker 1: John's up next. We'll get you caught up. You got 2689 02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:32,840 Speaker 1: an hour before the Colts will have to submit their 2690 02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:35,039 Speaker 1: roster to the NFL. We will break all of that 2691 02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:37,959 Speaker 1: down tomorrow and also get into some college football talk. 2692 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Alex Kris joining us tomorrow, Tom Deemhart, Alex So I'm Sorry, 2693 02:18:41,720 --> 02:18:45,720 Speaker 1: not Alex Carris, I'm Ted Carriss. Sorry. Yeah, Emmanuel Lewis 2694 02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:49,000 Speaker 1: will be on with us, Sorry about that. Ted Carris 2695 02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:53,000 Speaker 1: will be joining us from Mary And tomorrow and as 2696 02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:55,400 Speaker 1: well Tom dean Hart will join us tomorrow as well. 2697 02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:57,080 Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to Quarry Company.