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Speaker 1: Live from thell Hartmyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Happy Thanksgiving, gobble gobble toil in trouble.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This is Kiara Davis. I'm filling in for Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: As you can probably tell, Tony is out today getting

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Speaker 2: his Thanksgiving week started early. I'm filling in for him, though.

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Speaker 2: Kira Davis. You guys know me. You can find me

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Speaker 2: on x at Kira Davis, k I r a just

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Speaker 2: it's Kira Davis. I got my It's no more real

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Speaker 2: Kia Davis. It's only Tira Davis. Elon launched a new

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Speaker 2: program er. You can get your old handles that people

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Speaker 2: have squatted on, So thanks for that. So you can

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Speaker 2: follow me over there. Go to my website to find

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Speaker 2: out more about what I'm doing, what I'm writing, what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Just Kiadavis dot com jost Kiaradavis dot com.

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Speaker 2: Or go buy my book Drawing Lines, Why Conservatives must

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Speaker 2: begin to battle fiercely in the Arena of Ideas And

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Speaker 2: I think you should buy that book. It's I wrote

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Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty two, and I will tell you

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Speaker 2: what it has never been more relevant. I'm actually going

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Speaker 2: to break I'm actually thinking about doing some clips with

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Speaker 2: the book, just to re up some of those ideas

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Speaker 2: that I had in that book. Because it's all everything

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Speaker 2: that I talk about in that book. It's all coming

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Speaker 2: to fruition now. How we all have got to get.

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Speaker 4: In the game.

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Speaker 2: Back then, I was saying we were at war and

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Speaker 2: we just didn't know it then. Back then, I thought

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Speaker 2: we were going to lose the war. I actually think

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Speaker 2: we could win. But we have a lot of work

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Speaker 2: to do, and there are some very concerning issues developing

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Speaker 2: here in our nations, as illuminated by what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee with their special election. I know you've probably

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Speaker 2: heard about the young lady there who's running. The Socialists

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Speaker 2: got Mom Donnie, and New York Socialists and Somalians in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot going on here.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about what this is setting up

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Speaker 2: for us, what it means, the good news and the

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Speaker 2: bad news of it, because there's actually both. I think

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Speaker 2: there's more bad news and good news, but there's actually

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Speaker 2: good news there.

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Speaker 4: But it's Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: We can you I can't even believe it. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I just dropped my daughter off for her freshman

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Speaker 2: year of college. She's going to College of Charleston, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like we just dropped her off and got

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Speaker 2: that whole rat race done, and now it's time for

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Speaker 2: the rat race of Thanksgiving. I hardly I cannot believe.

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Speaker 2: And then I haven't done a stitch of Christmas shopping.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've done any Christmas shopping. Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, I'm in bad shape this year. But it's

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Speaker 2: like that every year. I guess I should stop pretending

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Speaker 2: like this is the year when I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: a completely different person. But I am going to tell

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Speaker 2: you guys that I'm getting myself a new planner for

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Speaker 2: the new year, and then I will be a completely

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Speaker 2: different person. It's going to be a new planner, new possibilities.

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Speaker 2: I am going to be the perfect person in twenty

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Speaker 2: six I just know it. Anyway, speaking of buying gifts

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Speaker 2: and getting ready for Thanksgiving, I've got a flashpole up

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Speaker 2: on X. It's about to end, but if you go

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Speaker 2: over there right now, go to Kira Davis on X

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Speaker 2: flash pole. I want to know how you feel about

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Speaker 2: your cranberry sauce for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 4: Do you like it homemade?

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Speaker 2: Do you like it shaped like the can that it

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Speaker 2: comes in, or maybe you think that cranberry sauce is

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Speaker 2: only for serial killers. Let me know, go over there,

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Speaker 2: take that flash pole. I've got it up. It's only

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Speaker 2: there for a few minutes longer. Costs are coming down

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Speaker 2: a little bit this Thanksgiving, and the Trump administration is

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Speaker 2: making sure that people know this and the word of

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Speaker 2: the day, the word of the holiday. Frankly, guys, I

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Speaker 2: But costs are coming down, not as much as we

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Speaker 4: They are coming down.

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Speaker 2: But as I play this clip for you, I want

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Speaker 2: your mind, right because next Thanksgiving, when inevitably I'll be

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Speaker 2: next Thanksgiving, because the administration has been telling us this

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Speaker 4: Look, yeah, we are doing work.

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Speaker 2: Costs are coming down, but the real benefits are going

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Speaker 4: Cost cutting.

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Speaker 2: You know when Americans are really going to feel it

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Speaker 2: noticeably is in twenty twenty six. Everybody's saying that who's

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Speaker 2: a representative of Donald Trump? So make a mental note

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Speaker 2: of this now, so when you get to next Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: you can say to yourself, yeah, I really do feel

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Speaker 2: the difference, or there's not much of a difference. But

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Speaker 2: let's hear a Fox News had to say about this Thanksgivings.

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Speaker 2: Priceis saving dinner.

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Speaker 5: Got some good news, America, A little bit of good news,

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Speaker 5: all right. Average costs for ten people, average costs now

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Speaker 5: for ten people two years ago was sixty one bucks.

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Speaker 6: This year it's down to.

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Speaker 5: Fifty five dollars for a person now, not for all

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Speaker 5: of ten people, but for all the folks.

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Speaker 6: That you're having over here.

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Speaker 5: Prices right now Turkey said to be lower, and that's

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Speaker 5: really helping out of them right now. Sixteen pound turkey,

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Speaker 5: send me twenty one dollars and fifty cents. All right, yell,

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Speaker 5: little pumpkin pie mixed for sixteen Sandra? How much is

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Speaker 5: a gallon of the whole milk?

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Speaker 6: Okay? How much? How much is a gallon of whole milk?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say four because I'm cheating it. I

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Speaker 5: It's like a presidential test, right, three dollars and seventy frans.

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Speaker 6: Boom, it can.

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Speaker 5: Be yours, Come on down here. I love Cranberry's Holeberry.

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Speaker 5: Cranberry is one of my favorites right now.

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Speaker 6: Two dollars and twenty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So costs are coming down a little bit, and

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Speaker 2: we've been having this discussion about affordability. I'm sorry, my

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Speaker 2: want to connect this to another concept, which is the

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Speaker 2: concept of dressing up to travel.

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Speaker 4: We've been talking about this quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Secretary Duffy, He's launched this new campaign let's class it

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Speaker 2: up a little bit, and everybody's talking about it. I've

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Speaker 2: does it. He always dresses up to fly. That shouldn't

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Speaker 2: surprise you. He is mister Klass. Tony Katz has always

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Speaker 2: done it. I am alike a lot of you, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that flying has become

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Speaker 2: a terrible experience.

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Speaker 4: And that's not because of you.

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Speaker 2: That's because of the airlines, and that's because of the

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Speaker 2: way they begin to treat us. So you dress you

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Speaker 2: dressed to get through the day. I get that, but

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Speaker 2: I recently started trying to dress comfortably in a more

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Speaker 2: maybe even more comfortable, but it has an elevated look

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Speaker 2: to it. It's not fancy, but it's just a little

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Speaker 2: they're going, why are we talking about this? You know,

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Speaker 2: we have these problems, that problems, and Secretary Duffy is

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Speaker 4: Here's here's why it matters.

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Speaker 2: Here's why it matters that President Trump talks about the

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Speaker 2: cost coming down, even if it's a little bit. Here's

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Speaker 2: why it matters that Secretary Duffy is talking about dressing

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Speaker 2: up and if there's bigger problems, because this is a

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Speaker 2: holistic approach to pulling America back to an American identity.

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Speaker 2: It all serves the same purpose, which is elevating right,

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Speaker 2: which is looking up, elevating the quality of living by

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Speaker 2: lowering the cost of living, elevating the concept of American

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Speaker 2: mobility by dressing up as though it's a privilege. All

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Speaker 2: of this is working together to reset our notions about

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Speaker 2: what it means to be American to a time when

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Speaker 4: And know, you can't change the airlines.

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Speaker 2: I know you can't change you personally, can't change how

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Speaker 2: much your turkey costs. But what can we do as

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Speaker 4: Well, we can.

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Speaker 2: Dress a little better, we can determine to be a

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Speaker 2: because I think all of this is working together for

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Speaker 2: when he's talking about travel, which is a return to

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Speaker 2: the golden age. I think you should keep that. That's

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Speaker 2: not for nothing, everybody. It's not just some flaky propaganda term.

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Speaker 2: It's meaningful to label, it's meaningful to brand. We know

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Speaker 2: this because of Trump. Branding is meaningful. So when Duffy

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Speaker 2: and Trump and anyone else calls this the Golden Era,

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Speaker 2: believe that America is something special. You treat her special,

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Speaker 4: I want to talk a little bit more about this concept.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to fold this into the

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Speaker 2: Trump pardoning the turkeys. He had an extra special pardon

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving talk, more turkey talk here on Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Kats and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcoming you back on this day before Thanksgiving with a

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Speaker 2: little This is the CIA's love song. Love song to you,

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Speaker 2: every breath you take. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Kira David's

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Speaker 2: filling in for my good friend Tony Katz. So glad

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Speaker 2: to be here with you. I'm coming to you from sunny, warm,

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Speaker 2: crazier today. My husband texted me to tell me to

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Speaker 2: be kind to the Indianapolis listeners today because it's going

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Speaker 2: to be cold and blustery there. I hear so sorry

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Speaker 2: with much more. I'm Cure Davis filling in for Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz today. Welcome back, everybody, Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Katz today. On this Wednesday before

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving in the United States of America, the greatest country

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Speaker 2: in the not greatest state on Earth, but it's a

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Speaker 2: It's actually a great state. It has terrible leadership, terrible leadership,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Am I making good radio for you?

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Speaker 2: In Tony's absence? I don't know how this is. Let's

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Speaker 2: President Trump was pardoning doing the annual traditional pardoning of

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Speaker 6: That's going to be saved.

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Speaker 3: The turkey's being pardoned today go by the names of

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Speaker 3: wouldn't care what Malania told me, Darling, I think it

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Speaker 3: These are two of the largest turkeys ever presented to

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Speaker 2: a man for this time, and why yes, we can

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Speaker 2: laugh at him and laugh with him, but you should

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Speaker 2: take very seriously who he is. And you should take

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Speaker 2: very seriously all of these little things that to you

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Speaker 2: look extraneous or unimportant that don't matter, like him getting

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Speaker 2: the two biggest turkeys to pardon, or him embellishing the

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Speaker 2: White House with gold, or him building the ballroom, or

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Speaker 2: Secretary Duffy saying, hey, let's dress up a little bit

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Speaker 2: more to travel. Let's running a kindness. Can you know,

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Speaker 2: Let's be nicer to each other when we travel. All

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Speaker 2: of these things are aimed at the elevation of the

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Speaker 2: American era. Even President we got news yesterday. Again, this

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Speaker 2: might seem like a nothing burger, but we got news

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Speaker 2: yesterday and all of the outlets covered it. We're getting

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Speaker 2: a rush hour for remember, that movie Rush Hour, Jackie

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Speaker 2: chan Chris Tucker, don't have a touch of black Man's Radio. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know that movie, great, great series. I love Jackie Channer,

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Speaker 2: Chris Tucker. Well, we get news yesterday they're making a

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Speaker 2: fourth installment of that series after I think the last

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Speaker 2: one was twenty years ago. But at the tail end

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Speaker 2: of the reports, which some news outlets didn't even report this,

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Speaker 2: I had to find this out later. It turns out

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Speaker 2: President Trump pushed Paramount to do this. Now, Paramount is

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Speaker 2: trying to get a merger deal done, and Trump's name

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Speaker 2: has come into that whole situation with the Jimmy Kimmel issue, right,

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Speaker 2: And people were saying, well, Paramount doesn't want to tee

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Speaker 2: off Trump.

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Speaker 4: Because they need the government.

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Speaker 2: To approve this merger. Right. And so now here Trump

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Speaker 2: is putting his thumb on the scale and saying I

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Speaker 2: want this rush Hour movie. So we're getting a fourth

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Speaker 2: installment of a rush Hour movie. Okay, Why does this

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Speaker 2: pulling in full circle here? Why is this a big deal?

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Speaker 2: It's not that big of a deal, but why does

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Speaker 2: it matter in the golden era? Because Trump knows that

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Speaker 2: part of the problem with this modern moment in America

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Speaker 2: is we have sold off the American dream. We have

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Speaker 2: sold it. In some cases, we've allowed it to be

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Speaker 2: stolen to China. Right, They've stolen our film industry, they've

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Speaker 2: stolen the entertainment industry. They've stolen our technology, and then

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Speaker 2: they stole our audiences.

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Speaker 4: Using our own breathe.

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Speaker 2: It's our own studios begin to realize, oh, if we

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Speaker 2: cater our movies to China, we can sell them there.

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Speaker 4: And what happens is we get.

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Speaker 2: These watered down products because Chinese consumers are not sophisticated

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Speaker 2: entertainment consumers. They don't have a sophisticated entertainment culture at

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Speaker 2: the moment, and there's reasons for that. That's not because

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Speaker 2: of who they are, it's because of their history. So

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Speaker 2: they have stolen not only our defensive technology, you know,

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Speaker 2: our weaponry, our computer technology. It's not just that they've

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Speaker 2: also stolen our entertainment. And entertainment is very influential and

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Speaker 2: it informs people who they are. And we've talked about

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Speaker 2: this ad nauseum, and I know Tony has because we're friends.

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Speaker 2: We're good friends, and we talk all the time, and

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Speaker 2: this is one of the topics we have always talked

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Speaker 2: about it's one of the topics that made us friends

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Speaker 2: in the beginning, how we have to wrestle the entertainment

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Speaker 2: culture because it is so influential in how people view America,

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Speaker 2: how our own people view America. So Trump asking for

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Speaker 2: a Rush Hour four, which is a great American classic,

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Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I'm sorry gen xers, but

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Speaker 2: it's a classic. At this point for him to ask

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Speaker 2: for that American produced American dollars with this is important

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Speaker 2: a Chinese star.

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Speaker 4: So you split in a difference there.

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Speaker 2: You can sell this to the Chinese consumer, and you

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Speaker 2: can also tell the Chinese government we basically do still

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Speaker 2: own your entertainment. You can send us your stars, but

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Speaker 2: we're the ones who make them stars. Right, it matters.

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Speaker 2: What this is saying is it's bringing back the Golden era.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to make more movies about how bad

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Speaker 2: America is. Let's make more buddy coop movies, right, people

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Speaker 2: liked those, Americans liked those. Let's make more sci fi movies,

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Speaker 2: Let's make more horror movies. Let's make more movies about

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Speaker 2: traveling across the country. And stop worrying about the Chinese

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Speaker 2: consumer because it's killing the American palette. Do you understand

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Speaker 2: what I mean? You have to dumb down all your movies.

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Speaker 2: You have to bleed out all the nuance so that

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Speaker 2: you can send it to the Chinese consumer. But then

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Speaker 2: what's happening is the American consumer is learning to go

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Speaker 2: without new once. It's dumbing us all down. Y'all, y'all

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Speaker 2: don't see that. This is this three point sixty everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's all corners all.

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Speaker 4: The way around.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know I'm mixing my metaphors, but you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. It's the whole picture, top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: It's not just tariffs, it's all of it. The culture

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Speaker 2: has to be wrestled back. And here is the thing

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Speaker 2: we only have. We've really got a year. We've really

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Speaker 2: got a year. The Left has been working their plan,

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Speaker 2: their strategy to overtake the American culture.

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Speaker 4: Now they've been working it for seventy five years.

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Speaker 2: We have a year because we can never let the

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Speaker 2: Democrats get power again. This is why Republicans need to

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Speaker 2: nuke the filibuster. Just do it, do it and jam

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Speaker 2: through everything. We have no more time. Here are two

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Speaker 2: years ago, maybe even a year ago, would have said no,

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Speaker 2: preserve the filibuster. It's an important tradition, but the Democrats

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Speaker 2: are not going to honor it when they win. What

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Speaker 2: are we waiting for? You know, we're at war. This

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Speaker 2: isn't playtime, This isn't sort of the normal back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Will get a term, They'll get a term when the

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Speaker 2: Democrats get power again. I think we're going to be

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Speaker 2: in a civil war if we don't change the culture

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Speaker 2: so that we're educating and priming a new batch of

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Speaker 2: Democrats to go in and be a little saner. And

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Speaker 2: you know what, let me take a break here because

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go into this. We've got this woman running

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee. She's a socialist and she's getting real close

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Speaker 2: to winning that special election, and it's meaningful. It's in Nashville,

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Speaker 2: and I think we've got some bigger issues on our

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Speaker 2: hand we need to talk about. So let's take a break.

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Speaker 2: So I got a little more time on the other

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Speaker 2: side to talk about this. I'm Kia Davis filling in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back everybody to Tony Katz Today. On this Wednesday, November

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth, day before Thanksgiving. I hope you guys are

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Speaker 2: having a great Thanksgiving holiday week so far. I do

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Speaker 2: want to talk about what's going on in Nashville, But

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Speaker 2: before I do, I just got this press release that

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Speaker 2: came across my desk, and I just thought, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you might not hear this anywhere else. I thought you

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Speaker 2: might be interested to hear this. This is from the

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Speaker 2: Office of Surface Mining, Reclamation and Enforcement, which is part

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Speaker 2: of the Department of INTERIORSMRI eliminates obsolete coal regulations to

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Speaker 2: advance America's energy independence. We are announcing today the formal

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Speaker 2: recision of fourteen obsolete or redundant regulations in a decisive

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Speaker 2: move to advance America's energy independence and economic vitality. Important

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Speaker 2: step reflects the Trump Administration's broader goal of reducing regulations,

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Speaker 2: creating jobs, and encouraging responsible energy development. The rescinded rules

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Speaker 2: will officially be published in the Federal Register. So that's

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Speaker 2: some good news. Some red tape getting removed. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of It's well. It is a part of President Trump's

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Speaker 2: promise to get rid of the red tape and make

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Speaker 2: energy affordable again and bring back America's energy independence, and

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Speaker 2: so the Office of Surface Mining and Reclamation, like that's

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Speaker 2: not a very sexy office, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: No one's reporting on that. So these are things you

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Speaker 2: don't hear. You hear about the things that go wrong,

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Speaker 2: but we're not really hearing about the other little things

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Speaker 2: happening throughout the administration. So I just thought you might

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Speaker 2: be interested to hear that. I was interested to see it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But back to the story about this woman in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Your name is Afton Baine. She's run for Tennessee's seventh

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Speaker 2: congressional district. Aften Baine b e h and Aten aft Yn.

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Speaker 2: The tyranny of the millennial This is the theory I've

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Speaker 2: been thinking about writing an article Smith that something called

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Speaker 2: like the tyranny of the Braden generation, like often if

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Speaker 2: there was, I've never seen a more millennial name often

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Speaker 2: Aten Baine. She's a pure socialist. She's running for Congress

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Speaker 2: and you know this is a red district. Trump won

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Speaker 2: it by plus twenty two. Latest pole has her trailing

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Speaker 2: the Republican leader Matt van Epps by just two points

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Speaker 2: two point four points. To be exact, Matt Vanepps ait

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Speaker 2: a poll out today Emerson Pole pulling at forty nine

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Speaker 2: point four percent, often Baine polling at forty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: We've got a clip of her talking on a podcast

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Speaker 2: about her plan for social justice and for criminal for

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Speaker 2: restorative justice. Excuse me, for restorative justice. Let's play this

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Speaker 2: clip and we'll talk about why we should not dismiss this.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and play this.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 7: I'm currently involved in a transfer transformative justice seminar, and

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Speaker 7: so it's how to imagine a world without police and

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Speaker 7: what that looks like and what community mechanisms look like,

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Speaker 7: how people cannot police themselves. But what, for example, if

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Speaker 7: you experience sexual assault, like, what is the reconciliation process?

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Speaker 2: And what does transformative justice look like?

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Speaker 7: Because as we know, like you can't take those things

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Speaker 7: to like, you know, our legal system is terrible when

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Speaker 7: it comes to to retribution.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, all that says that, like I you know,

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Speaker 2: I hope all of you so one.

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Speaker 7: I'll have a podcast on it, and I highly recommend, like,

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Speaker 7: if it's been difficult for all of you to imagine

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Speaker 7: a world without police, please tune in too, maybe not

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Speaker 7: this episode, but the next one because I'll talk about

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Speaker 7: you know, things I'm learning and growing as an organizer

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Speaker 7: because I think especially for those of us you know

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Speaker 7: that are young, like you know, I've been talking to

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Speaker 7: our parents about what police abolition looks like, that you know,

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Speaker 7: we can do it, and there's a world.

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Speaker 4: Do you hear that? Do you hear that? I want

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Speaker 4: you to.

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Speaker 2: If you're having trouble imagining a world without police, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to have trouble imagining it much longer if

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Speaker 2: we allow this to go on. I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about this on the other side of the break. We

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Speaker 2: need to do something.

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Speaker 4: I'm Kia David.

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Speaker 2: It's filling it for Tony Kats and this is Tony

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Speaker 2: Cats Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from the Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Cats Today. I'm your guest host,

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Speaker 2: Kira Davis, feeling it for my friend Tone, guiding you

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Speaker 2: into the Thanksgiving holiday. It's a great time to be

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Speaker 2: an American. It's a great time to be alive. I

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Speaker 2: love that America has a Thanksgiving and that it's so American.

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Speaker 2: There's other Thingsgivings. I'm Canadian and Canada has Thanksgiving. They

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Speaker 2: have it in Otrober sometime because like the second Monday

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Speaker 2: in October or the third Monday. I don't know who cares.

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Speaker 2: It's not the real Thanksgiving. I didn't even like it

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Speaker 2: when I was a Canadian, so who cares? But the

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Speaker 2: American Thanksgiving always feels so very American. And that's because

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Speaker 2: it is a very American concept to have a nationally

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Speaker 2: recognized day.

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Speaker 4: Where we all pause as a nation.

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Speaker 2: And recognize the principle of gratefulness and the creator of gratefulness.

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Speaker 2: Even though all of you out there not all of

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Speaker 2: you recognize a creator, there's still value in corporately saying

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Speaker 2: we're grateful. And we've gotten away from that as we've

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Speaker 2: turned Thanksgiving. You know, the Libs couldn't get Thanksgiving off

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Speaker 2: of the books because now it's a federal holiday.

649
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Speaker 4: So what they did is they did they did.

650
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: What they always do. They perverted it. They changed the

651
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: language around it, they decolonized it as it were, and

652
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: they made it into Native American Day or Indigenous People's Day,

653
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: or you know, whatever they made this day into that

654
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: wasn't Thanksgiving. And that matters too, because when you remove

655
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: the core principle of the holiday, then you remove the

656
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: value of it, and you remove the consequences of it.

657
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: So the consequences of a nation pausing for just a

658
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: moment on one day a year to say thank you

659
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: to Creator, to the universe, to each other, to their

660
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: own internal feelings, whoever to say thank you. The console

661
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: quenses of that is more gratefulness. That's science, right, you

662
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: can you'll you'll see a dozen reports this week about

663
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: the science of gratefulness. It's not but it's not just science.

664
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Speaker 2: It also has uh, it also has consequences for your

665
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: personal well being, your faith and how but it also

666
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: views helps how you view the people around you and

667
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: your circumstances. So you know, when we do that, that

668
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: has consequences, and so it has consequences when we stop

669
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: doing it, when we stop looking at things giving day

670
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: as a day to be grateful, and then we start

671
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: looking at it as a day to hate, right, to

672
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: hate the pilgrims, to hate the settlers, to hate the colonists,

673
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: to hate the white people, to hate smallpox, to hate

674
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, straight white Christian men.

675
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: You know that's what it's become. You don't think that

676
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: has an effect.

677
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: Again, I want to go back to the Duff rule

678
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: of travel dress it up up to travel. You don't

679
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: think that all of these things work together to create

680
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: a society which people view each other suspiciously and poorly.

681
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 2: It does.

682
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: It matters that.

683
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: We we envelop ourselves in gratefulness so we don't treat

684
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: each other ungratefully. And it matters that we dress with

685
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: some measure of respect for ourselves so that other people

686
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: don't treat us as though we have disrespect for ourselves.

687
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: You know that happens anyway, But you know what I mean.

688
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: You create a buffer there, You give yourself a running

689
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: start on kindness. It all matters. It all works together

690
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: to shape a high trust society. So I want to

691
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: I want you to stop out whenever you see the

692
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: president or the vice president, or in your favorite talking

693
00:39:55,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: head whoever, going talking about something like Secretary Duffy talking

694
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: about dressing up to travel.

695
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Speaker 4: Don't go.

696
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's talking about that when we

697
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: don't have enough air traffic controllers worry about that.

698
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 4: He can walk in chew gum at the same time.

699
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, he is worrying about that, right,

700
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: the dressing up to travel thing is also worrying about

701
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: the air traffic controller thing. Because if you elevate the concept,

702
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: if you elevate the experience of travel, and hopefully maybe

703
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: fingers crossed, you inspire the airlines to elevate their customer service.

704
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: And then you just elevate the entire concept of traveling.

705
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: You also elevate the position of air traffic controller and

706
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: you get better candidates.

707
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 4: It all works together.

708
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Speaker 2: It's the Golden Era everyone, and you've got to do

709
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: your part from top to bottom. Yes, go to church.

710
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 2: Go to church on Sundays, even if you don't like church.

711
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Just go. It matters. Yes, ladies, put on a dab

712
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: of lipstick or lip gloss or whatever it is that

713
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: judges up your face when you leave the house to

714
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: go to a.

715
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: Meeting or something.

716
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: If you're going to work out, obviously it all matters.

717
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to Afton Baine in Nashville.

718
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: I want to tell you I want to talk about

719
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Speaker 2: I want to wrap this thought off up before we

720
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: move on for the rest of the episode, because I

721
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: want to talk about some more Thanksgiving stuff. I want

722
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: to do Thanksgiving stories. I looked a few up. But

723
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: here is the reason why this is a problem. It

724
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: is a real problem.

725
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Speaker 4: Mom, Donnie in New York.

726
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: Not that much of a surprise, although a little surprised

727
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: this She's pulling close, this close in a plus twenty

728
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: two in a district that was plus twenty two for Trump.

729
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: That's concerning, but not totally surprising, because it's Nashville. It's

730
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: the city, and that's what I wanted to talk about.

731
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: Dave Marcus over at Fox Digital wrote a great article

732
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: today about how we should not laugh off the Democrat

733
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: socialist threat in red cities. It can come the Democrats.

734
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: Socialism can come for the heartland too, And if you're

735
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, you already know that's true. Those of us

736
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: who have been living in the Midwest. Again, I'm in California,

737
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: but we moved here from Gary, Indiana, and I think

738
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: I just have to say the name of the town,

739
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: and you have all kinds of visions about what that

740
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: was like. But this has been going on forever in

741
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: the cities. This is not a surprise. Indianapolis, like almost

742
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: every major city in America, has been co opted by

743
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: the Socialists and Republicans. Let it happen. We said, well,

744
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: who's in the cities and the minorities as black people,

745
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: it's they'll never vote for us. We've just we've lost

746
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: the information war, we've lost the branding war.

747
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: They're convinced we're all racists. They'll never vote for us.

748
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: Let's focus on the rural areas and suburban area areas.

749
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Let's focus on where we can win. And they seated

750
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: the cities. But we have now created a society where

751
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: we have more people living in our cities than ever before.

752
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: And those people are again this is why it's a

753
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: holistic thing. Everybody.

754
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: It's everything, not one thing, it's everything.

755
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: These people have been educated in the city public school

756
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: system for seventy five years. And those are the people

757
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: who have received the majority of illegal migrants. So those

758
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: people have come from communist countries and deposited their values

759
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: there with no pushback, and they haven't been required to

760
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: assimilate because they're here illegally. And so we seeded the cities.

761
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 2: And now we've got these these socialist meccas, and god forbid,

762
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: some of them actually mecca meccas in urban America. In

763
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: red states that this is a Republican problem. I believe

764
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: Democrats have played this right. We should be worried about

765
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: this because she yes, she's an idiot, she's an idiot,

766
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: just like AOC. But look at AOC. She's the de

767
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: facto leader of the Democrat Party. Now stop laughing at

768
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: these people.

769
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: They're not funny.

770
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: I told you when AOC when she had stopped calling

771
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: her a bartender.

772
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: Stop stop pretending that what.

773
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: She's doing and saying isn't of value to her side

774
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 2: of the aisle. We can't afford to be flippant about

775
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: this everyone. We have lost the cities. Can you imagine

776
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: losing the Nashville area. It's happening, and Nashville's become the

777
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: conservative influencer mecca of America and even they can't save it.

778
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Some of the most influential conservatives in this country that

779
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: you listen to are in Nashville and they can't save it.

780
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Socialism is here, and that's the good news of this.

781
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: That's the good news. I wanted to point out that.

782
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: Now there's no more guessing.

783
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: We're not pretending anymore.

784
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: The Democrats aren't looking at us and saying we're not socialists.

785
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: You guys are just paranoid. Remember they always used to

786
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: do that. You can't do that anymore. They're proud socialists

787
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: and they're running on it. The problem is they're winning

788
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: in the cities. They're not winning America. They can't win

789
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: the general elections yet. But if we don't address this

790
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: problem in the cities right now, they will win the

791
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: general elections one day and then we won't be America

792
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: anymore anymore, or it'll be civil war. I think it's

793
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: going to be civil war. I think it's going to

794
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: be civil war. And so if we want to avoid

795
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: civil war, then we need to wrestle back these cities.

796
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: So excuse me, Republicans need to get serious and stop

797
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: ceeding these places. You know, we have this Prop fifty

798
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: battle here in California, and the National Republicans left us alone.

799
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: They didn't give us any money, they didn't send us

800
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: any help.

801
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: Because they knew it was a losing battle, and it was,

802
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: but they do it all the time. We're not going

803
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: to waste our money there, and that's fine. I get

804
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: that from a practical standpoint. But then what happens is

805
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: you've lost us. You've lost it and you need it

806
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: now the places that you're gonna need to win in

807
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: the future. You gave up because you thought I'm not

808
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: going to waste my money there. You didn't fight and

809
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: now is the time for fighters. So now we're going

810
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: to hopen. We're playing catchup, We're coming from behind in

811
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: the cities. Republicans have to get very very serious about

812
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: winning back the cities and they need to make very

813
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: real plays for the cities. Need to figure out how

814
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: Trump did it and replicate that. I need to take

815
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: a break. I'm I'm not a Curea Daves. I almost

816
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: said I am Akia Davis. I am Akia Davis, but

817
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm also be Craa Davis sitting in for the Tony

818
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: Katz And this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody,

819
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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Welcome back to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest

820
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: host Kira Davis sitting in for my good friend Tony

821
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Speaker 2: Katz on this pre Thanksgiving Day Thanksgiving Eve.

822
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Speaker 4: You all getting ready for tomorrow?

823
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: And what's your favorite Thanksgiving dish? Your dish at the

824
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving table? I love at the table when I'm eating

825
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: at the table, not because my favorite is leftover, so

826
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: I just I don't know why. I think a lot

827
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: of you are like that too, But at the table,

828
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: when it's nice and hot and fresh, I love mac

829
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: and cheese and sweet potatoes. I just love that combination,

830
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: looking forward to that. My husband also is a two

831
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: meat kind of guy. He's not satisfied with just turkey

832
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: on the table. He also has to have a ham.

833
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: It's his prerogative as the breadwinner and an American.

834
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Speaker 4: I understand that.

835
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Speaker 2: But it's a lot of meat every year. I still

836
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: love the meat from last year in the freezer, but

837
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna chop it up. Ben make dog food for

838
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: my dog with the leftovers from last year. Anyway, let

839
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: me know what you're doing. I'm really grateful to be

840
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: in the Golden era.

841
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 4: I am.

842
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little bit about Let's just divert

843
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, something a little more lighthearted and give up.

844
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: Let's dole out some Thanksgiving advice. I was reading an

845
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: advice column people asking about this Saturday. The other are

846
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: a lot of family issues. This woman writes about being

847
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: concerned that she's meeting her boyfriend's mom for the first time.

848
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: She's invited to Thanksgiving and his mom always has a

849
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: big blowout. You know, his mom is the Thanksgiving host.

850
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Everything from scratch ten side dishes. She's very well known

851
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: the mom and the family's known for her Thanksgiving, and

852
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: the girlfriend is very much looking forward to making a

853
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: good impression on the mom.

854
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 4: There's only one problem. The girlfriend is a vegetarian.

855
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: She says, I have not eaten meat in nearly a decade,

856
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: not for attention, but because it genuinely makes me feel fit,

857
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: to feel better physically, and it aligns with my values.

858
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: So she's saying like it's not for some kind of

859
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm scoring political points, this is just how I choose

860
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: to live. Fine, she sounds like a normal vegetarian, not

861
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: like a preacher. My boyfriend mentioned it to his mom

862
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: and she was polite, but I could tell from her

863
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: tone that she did not quite know what to make

864
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: of it. She said something like, oh, she doesn't need turkey. Well,

865
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: we'll figure something out. Now I'm panicking. I don't want

866
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: to show up and seem ungrateful, picky, or worse, judgmental.

867
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: I want his mom to like me, and I know

868
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: how personal cooking can be. I've even thought about just

869
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: taking a small piece of turkey to be polite. But

870
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: the idea of doing what feels wrong and idea of

871
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: doing that feels.

872
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: Wrong and dishonest.

873
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I don't want to make the

874
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: whole meal about me or cause awkwardness around the dinner table.

875
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: Should I offer to bring a vegetarian ditch to share?

876
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: Should I just quietly fill my plate with sides and

877
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: hope no one notices? Or should I explain my choice

878
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: more directly, so just not se like I am being difficult.

879
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: I really care about this guy, and I would love

880
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: to start off on the right foot with his family.

881
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: I actually love this letter. I love it because she's

882
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: clearly saying she's not trying to be obnoxious about it.

883
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: She is absolutely not expecting anyone to accommodate her. That's

884
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: the right step, and I think that's why, letter writer,

885
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: You're gonna do just fine at Thanksgiving dinner. You're going

886
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: in with the right attitude. I do believe that the

887
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: right thing to do here is to bring a vegetarian dish,

888
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: so it's something that you can enjoy in case there's

889
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: nothing on the table. Because I don't know how hardcore

890
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: you are. Some vegetarians won't even eat dishes that have

891
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: been cooked in cook where that has also cooked meat.

892
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you're that hardcore, or maybe

893
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: you're just like, no, that's not it. I just don't

894
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: want to consume the product. So if you don't mind,

895
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: you know the prep work for the sides, and you

896
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: should also but make sure you ask what's in the sides,

897
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: because again I don't know what kind of family your

898
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: boyfriend's in. I'm going to guess by the mom's reaction

899
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: that it's not a black family, because that black mom

900
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: would have just said you're getting turkey. Anyway, she would

901
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: have have fed. We don't believe in vegetarians. But but

902
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of family they're in, but

903
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: they might, you know, black people. We cook a lot

904
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: of Southern people period actually just cook our greens in

905
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: like hamhocks or whatever.

906
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: So some of the prep work might be done with meat.

907
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: You have to ask otherwise, I think you bring a

908
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: dish that's shareable but also that you can consume if

909
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: there's nothing else for you to consume on the table,

910
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: and then don't make a big deal out of it.

911
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: And guess what, probably they're not going to either. You

912
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: did when they offer you turkey to say, oh, no,

913
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: thank you, I'm a vegetarian, but I would love some

914
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: of that mac and cheese, Like that's what you do.

915
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: I love it. Go have a great time.

916
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: I think you sound like a lovely young lady, and

917
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: I think that the mom is going to I think

918
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: she'll be pleased, because the whole point is your attitude,

919
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's the whole point about Thanksgiving. I was

920
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: reading advice columns. I'm going to do my own little

921
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: advice column for Thanksgiving, and I was reading some and

922
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: it's just it's column at their column of like, how

923
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: do I deal with my family? How do I get

924
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: through this Thanksgiving? It's all family, cope? And I have

925
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: the same kind of family, not my immediate family, but

926
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: my extended family, and so.

927
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 4: I totally get that.

928
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: But I thought to myself, Gosh, all of these columns

929
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: are from people who are dreading being with their family.

930
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: It's just so much coke. And I just wondered, is

931
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: anyone having a good Thanksgiving out there? Are there people

932
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: who look forward to their family meetings. I actually put

933
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: a call out on X for some positive stories, and

934
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: I got a number. I got a number back, a

935
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: number of positive responses, people who said, we look forward

936
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: to it. You know, our family doesn't agree on politics,

937
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: but there's other things to talk about.

938
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: I agree with that, you know, My liberal.

939
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: Friend is coming over for Thanksgiving tomorrow and he's bringing

940
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: his liberal friends, and it'll be fine. We'll be fine

941
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: because you can still have those types of relationships in

942
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: modern America. You cannot have those types of relationships in

943
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: modern America with progressives, and those people are the problem.

944
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: And that's why there's so many people this Thanksgiving dinner.

945
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: I saw so this Thanksgiving that year. I saw so

946
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: many people writing articles and posting comments about their no

947
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: contact Thanksgiving. Just so many people have cut their families off.

948
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 2: This is really this is why I'm bringing it down.

949
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: This is a lighthearted discussion of this radio everybody, But

950
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: this is why I say, I think if we don't

951
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: wrestle back this culture, we're headed for civil war, because

952
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: that's the first step in advancement to war is families

953
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: splitting apart. And you can go read our own history

954
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: here in America of how it was even in the

955
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 2: revolutionary times and in civil war times, where people were

956
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: really split, and those were big deals. You're talking about

957
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 2: things that can change the face of your country where

958
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: you live. These were in the the nascent days of

959
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: our country, so these were very serious splits. And if

960
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: you read history you see family turning on family. You

961
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: can read journal entries about it. Brother leaving sister, daughters,

962
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: and sons leaving mothers at fathers.

963
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: That's where we are.

964
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: And so every time you read an article about that

965
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: this Thanksgiving, I want you to think about that and

966
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: think about how that's a precursor to civil war. So

967
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: if we don't wrestle things back now, we might get

968
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: to the point where we can't do it at all.

969
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: What a lovely note to end on. We'll talk about

970
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: something more fun when we come back on the other

971
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: side of the break, I promise. I'm Kia Davis filling

972
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz, and this is Tony Kats Today.

973
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz Today. Little Stranger Things

974
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: shout out, It's Stranger Things Day. How many of you

975
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: people out there? Leanna and I were talking in the

976
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: break about our love for Stranger Things, and the final

977
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: season is premiering today. I think it'll be out in

978
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: two parts. I think it's going to take like another

979
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: five years for them to wrap up the show. The

980
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: kids are going to be grand grandparents by the time

981
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: it's wrapped up. It's really weird how they do episodic

982
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: TV these days. But anyways, it's a big deal in

983
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: the Davis household. My daughter's a big Stranger Things fan,

984
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: and we have followed these people forever. And if you're

985
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: old like me, you know that song is a hit

986
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: song for the eighties Kate Bush. But if you're younger

987
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: like my daughter, you know that song is a hit

988
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: song from Stranger Things. That song got a number one

989
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: Billboard spot think it was sixty years apart. Just amazing

990
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: the power of the Internet, isn't it. Let's talk about

991
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: something not so amazing. I'd had this clip. I've been

992
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: staring at this clip of mine. I'm gonna it's been

993
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: visited upon me. I shall visit it upon you. Right now,

994
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite racial justice warrior, Joy Reid, joined too Bitter

995
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: White Ladies podcast. I don't think that's the name of

996
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: the podcast, but that's what it is to me. It's

997
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: one of the Bravo chicks. Jennifer somebody Welch. That's it

998
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: because her name sounds even like she's puckering her lips

999
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: all the time, like she's soured. Jennifer Welch, doesn't she

1000
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: She just seems it sounds like a name that just

1001
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: got the scolding built into it, and she's a horrible person.

1002
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: But Joy Reid joined her and her other bitter.

1003
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: Friend for a podcast and they were talking about all

1004
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: kinds of things.

1005
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: But then they talked me. The topic came to Jade

1006
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: Vance and.

1007
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: His wife Usha, who as you know, is Indian American

1008
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: and or of Indian descent, and well, I won't explain it.

1009
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 4: Let's just let Joy read.

1010
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: We had to thank you Landing for your hard work

1011
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: of bleeping this out because they are vile people. But

1012
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: let's let Joy give her comments for herself and then

1013
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: I will break it down.

1014
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 8: Motivates them so they can't have the successor to Maga

1015
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 8: be the guy with the brown Hindu wife. They're also

1016
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 8: Christian nationalists. That ain't gonna work. That's why he's throwing

1017
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 8: his wife under the bus or Usha or she's in

1018
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 8: on it right and planning slap and tickle with Erica

1019
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 8: Kirks where to get I've ever seen.

1020
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like in her Tammy fay Era.

1021
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 8: Okay, holding on the back of his head and rubbing.

1022
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 8: It's some weird baby. Don't do that today, said, I'm

1023
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 8: start thinking that was going on.

1024
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Why are you holding the bigger is he it?

1025
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 8: I'm like, you're not doing that right thing. You're supposed

1026
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 8: to be a widow, you in leather.

1027
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 6: Pants, not aware?

1028
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: Could you imagine?

1029
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 8: I wouldn't it be the most perfect fairy tale, maga

1030
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 8: fairy tale. If he finally sees the light that he

1031
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 8: needs a white queen instead of this brown hindu. I mean,

1032
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that's happening, right, or maybe that who's

1033
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 8: just not even in on it. Maybe she's whatever. But

1034
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 8: that's that's one entrant. Another entrant is Frankly Donald Trump Junior,

1035
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 8: if he can, you know, you know together.

1036
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to be silent because this is radio.

1037
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: But what I want to do is just sit here

1038
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: and stare for a minute because it's you know, you're.

1039
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: Almost at a loss for words.

1040
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: At the vile, at the pure vile hatred of these women.

1041
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: But this is what I'm talking about when.

1042
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 2: I say there are some people in this country we're

1043
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: not going to reconcile with. That's what I mean. Your

1044
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: liberal friends and family, you can do it. The progressives

1045
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: they're lost, they're lost, and maybe something will come along

1046
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: to show them the way. And maybe your calling is

1047
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: to talk to those people.

1048
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: But for me, I'm done.

1049
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: They're lost. They have nothing of value to offer. Joy

1050
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: read is a vile, horrible person. It's November. Erica Kirk's

1051
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: husband got shot in the neck in front of the

1052
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: entire world in September. It's November. Excuse you for talking

1053
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: about her wardrobe choices. The leather pants is? What's the

1054
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: proper widow attire? Joy? Tell me that was she? Is

1055
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: there a department store that you go to when your

1056
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: husband gets murdered?

1057
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: Give me the widow where I'm not allowed to wear

1058
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: wet leather?

1059
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not allowed to wear my regular, typical

1060
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: wardrobe that I wore every day before I lost my husband.

1061
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: What's the widow dress? Joy?

1062
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

1063
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: America?

1064
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: Do JD Advance has a problem with a brown wife?

1065
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: That's all made up. It's all projection. It's them that

1066
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: has the problem with the brown wife. It's Joy Reid

1067
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: that has the problem with the brown wife. Do you

1068
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: understand me? Everything they say is projection. They framed January

1069
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: sixth as an insurrection, and then they spent four years

1070
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: lecturing us and repeating the Mantra insurrection insurrection, insurrection, and

1071
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: of course it wasn't and that's being proven. So now

1072
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: who's the one launching an insurrection. It's the Democrats making

1073
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: a video encouraging members of the military disc of the

1074
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: military to disobey direct orders, to disobey their chain of

1075
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: command and their commander in cheap that's insurrectionist. That's an

1076
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: insurrection they're they're projecting with this too. You don't care

1077
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: what color jd Vance's wife is. She does. She doesn't

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Speaker 2: like that the white man is married to the brown woman.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem for her. And I'm not gonna break

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Speaker 2: down her psyche to tell you why. It could be

1081
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: all kinds of reasons. Maybe she really is a racist,

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: or maybe she's jealous. Maybe she's actually a sellout and

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: she wants the white man to pick her. I actually

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: think that's what it is. I actually do.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: That's what the problem is of women like joelry Read.

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Speaker 2: She looks at women like me and she goes, you're

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Speaker 2: a sellout, Kara. You're selling out the black community just

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Speaker 2: so you can get some of that Republican love. Those

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Speaker 2: lucrative Republican jobs look lucrative. I'm a guest host on radio,

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Speaker 2: you know I haven't exactly had the most lucrative career

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Speaker 2: as a black Republican. It's not very lucrative unless you're

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Speaker 2: candae Owans. It's not very lucrative. So and it's not

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: because I don't sell out right. You know what would

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01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: make would would make me rich if I sat on

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Speaker 2: this microphone right now. You know what Republicans really are racist,

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Speaker 2: And I really made a mistake becoming conservative, and I'm

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Speaker 2: leaving the Republican Party and I'm going to spill all

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: the beans, all the dirt that I know that would

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Speaker 2: make me rich.

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Speaker 4: That's what made Joy Read.

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Speaker 2: Rich, and it just got she got over her skis

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: and the landscape change and they had to let her go.

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Speaker 2: But the only reason she got the job in the

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01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: first place is because she talked trash about white people,

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Speaker 2: literally her own. The only reason she's not smart. What

1107
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: analysis has she given you that is really opening up

1108
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: or illuminating a topic for you or anybody? Nothing. She

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: doesn't add anything to the conversation. Her only job there

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01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: is to hate white people. But I think she does

1111
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: that job because it's how she gets white people to

1112
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Speaker 2: love her. And I so that's why I always think

1113
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: these black commentators on the left are the real sellouts

1114
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: because they want to be in the rooms with those

1115
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: white people. They want to be at the cocktail parties

1116
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: with those white people, and so that's why they go.

1117
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: And every time they do, like here's Joy Read. That's

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Speaker 2: the other thing, it's it's such as I can't think

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Speaker 2: of another word to you, So I'm sorry, but it

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: is such a vile specter. If you watch this video

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Speaker 2: to see Joy Read sitting there with these two blond

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01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: women at the table. The two blonde women are looking

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Speaker 2: at her like they just adore her, right, Like this

1124
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: is a black woman who's talking to them like like

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Speaker 2: she like they're one of her community. And that's what

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: every awful wants, right, affluent white urban liberal woman, that's

1127
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: what every awful wants to be the best friend to

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Speaker 2: the black woman. So they're eating it up. They're lapping

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01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: it up because Joy is accepting them, and she's she

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: paling around with them. And then Joy's eating it up

1131
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: because she's in an elevated status, right these upper class

1132
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: white women who otherwise she would not belong in their

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: circle of friends. Otherwise they would never have time for

1134
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: a person like Joy. The angry or she gets the

1135
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: more they clap, the rooter she gets, the more validation

1136
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: they give. That's what it is. That's what you're looking at.

1137
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: That's their ecosystem. On the left, joy Read is an

1138
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: awful person because she hates herself and she wants the

1139
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: white people to love her. I say it, I said it.

1140
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. That's why she's so mean about everything,

1141
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: and that's why she looks That's why this is the

1142
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: other thing I want to think about too. I'm actually

1143
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: going to write about this or maybe I'll podcast about

1144
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: it because I need to talk it out. But the

1145
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: other there's something going on on the left where they

1146
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: sexualize everything. They sexualize everything. You see it in your entertainment,

1147
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: like even your kids entertainment, like Stranger Things, We're gonna

1148
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: that's gonna premiere tonight for the final season, and even

1149
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: in that show. You watch that show and you don't know,

1150
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: you can't. No relationship is safe. This one's saying, no

1151
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: same sex relationship is safe because everything is sexualized, and

1152
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: so you're never sure if you're watching kids that are

1153
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: just kids and enjoying each other as kids, or if

1154
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: you're watching something that's gonna morph into a romantic relationship

1155
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: to teach you the viewer, a lesson. There, it's not

1156
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 2: They're not safe, and so they sexualize everything because they've

1157
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: taken the guard rails off of relationships. Right, family is

1158
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: who you make it, love is love, gay marriage, thrupples, polyamory.

1159
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 4: Right, they've taken the guard.

1160
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: Rails off of everything, and it makes everything permissible.

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 4: And then you do and then you have.

1162
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: No no tradition, and no traditional relationships, and so they

1163
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: cannot conceive of a platonic relationship of opposite sex or

1164
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: even same sex. Everything is sexualized. And that's why fan

1165
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: fiction is really popular right now. If you never heard

1166
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: of fan fiction, that's where you take whatever TV show

1167
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: or thing that you like. Let's say Twilight, which started

1168
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: out as fan fiction. Do you take that, and then

1169
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: you have a bunch of people who just write their

1170
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: own sort of side stories like what they wish would happen.

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: And what fan fiction does is it ships people. That's

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: what the kids called making relationships. It ships people and

1173
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: ships the characters that they kind of wish would have

1174
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: gone together in the story but for whatever reason didn't.

1175
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: It feeds this fantasy. But shipping culture is fantasy culture.

1176
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: On the left, and they're always trying to ship people

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: because everything's sexualized. So they're shipping JD. Vans and Erica

1178
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: Kirk because they're weird. There's something wrong on that side,

1179
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: and they sexualize everything. And so Joy Reid and her

1180
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: two white weird friends can't understand that these are two

1181
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: people who know each other and who have just lost

1182
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: to someone very special to them both. She has to

1183
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: sexualize it because she is a pervert, just like the

1184
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: two women she was talking to. This is why we

1185
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: can't work with these people. We can't compromise with these people,

1186
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: and we can never persuade these people. We just have

1187
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: to defeat them because they're dangerous and they cannot be

1188
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: convinced and they cannot be persuaded. They have all the

1189
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: wrong ideas and worse, they think they have right ideas.

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Speaker 2: We got to take a break. I'm Kia Davi's filing

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: in for Tony Kats and this is Tony Katz Today.

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody too, Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host,

1193
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: Kira Davis filling in for Tony Kats. You can find

1194
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: me on x at Kira Davia's kid Ads or on

1195
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: Instagram at just Kiera Davis, just here at Davis or

1196
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: go find my substack just Hereadavis dot com and you'll.

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01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 4: My podcast is over there.

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: I just do a I don't have a daily podcast

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: or a weekly podcast anymore. I've shelved just Listen to Yourself,

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: which is it's been my main brand for five or

1201
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: six years. I've shelved it because it's a persuasion podcast.

1202
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: It's a critical thinking podcast. And you know what, after

1203
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: Charlie just sort of done with it, I just I

1204
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,919
Speaker 2: don't feel very persuasive anymore.

1205
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: I just kind of want to win.

1206
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: So I shelved it and now I'm just sort of

1207
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 2: giving random talks whenever I feel like it. So Substack's

1208
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: the best place just to catch all that stuff. I

1209
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: got nothing regular going on, but whatever I have going

1210
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: on goes over there. All right. While we've been going

1211
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: through some things giving advice, and I found another little

1212
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: advice column that I want to share with you. Let's

1213
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: problem solve here. This woman said, as I am dreading

1214
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving because my sister and her husband are coming with

1215
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: their toddler, whom they refuse to supervise every time they

1216
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: bring him somewhere the host always ends up having to

1217
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: make sure he doesn't wreck something or kill himself while

1218
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: his parents gab away or play on their phones. My

1219
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: husband and I will be hosting twelve other people besides them,

1220
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 2: and we have no desire to play babysitters while trying

1221
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: to pull off making serving two turkeys plus sides. The

1222
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: kicker is that if I tell my sister she can't come,

1223
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: she'll stir the pot with our parents since she's the

1224
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: precious golden child. Or she'll claim that she and my

1225
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: brother in law will watch my nephew, only to go

1226
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: back on their word. Any ideas other than tying him

1227
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: to something, Okay, well, I don't think tying to something

1228
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: is such a bad idea, but maybe it's not, honestly,

1229
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: but let's think about it here. Because I don't think

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: you're out of line. I do think it's out of

1231
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: line to consider disinviting your sister. That's fam family's family. However,

1232
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: this is sort of what I was talking about about,

1233
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: a return to the golden era. A return to a

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01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 2: high trust society requires the big things and the little things.

1235
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: So the big things like cutting red tape for travel

1236
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: to make it easier to serve the customer and the

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: little things like dressing up for travel to make the

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: whole experience more respectable. All right, Oh, you know what

1239
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: we're getting on the music. I didn't realize time is

1240
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: going so fast. This is what I want to say

1241
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: about this. You can have the toddler over, but you

1242
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 2: have to keep making the parents responsible for the toddlers.

1243
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: So every single time he does something, you make it

1244
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: at the parent's problem, and that's how they'll learn.

1245
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 4: All right, I'll learn how to read o' clock after this.

1246
01:10:50,880 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis and this is Tony Katz Today.

1247
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 1: Live from the Hartbad and the Crossroads of America.

1248
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 6: It's Tony Kats Today.

1249
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Katz Today. We are in our

1250
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: three here we are leading up to the Thanksgiving break.

1251
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm here Davis filling in form a good friend. Tony.

1252
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: Go buy my book, just do it right now.

1253
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 4: Christmas is coming up. You need a good gift idea.

1254
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: You've run through all the good ones. Try and lame

1255
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 4: one like a.

1256
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: Book drawing lines why conservatives must be get a battle

1257
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: fiercely in the arena of ideas. That's my book. Definitely

1258
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: go find that wherever you find books. We're coming up.

1259
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to go shopping after this. Get my I

1260
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 2: don't really cook. I don't really do the cooking. I

1261
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: had a great cook. My mom's a chef, and so

1262
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: when I was growing up, you know, when she got

1263
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: home from work, she didn't want to teach anybody how

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: to cook. She's done with that. We were talking in

1265
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: the break about the kid. The advice we were reading

1266
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: before the break about what does this lady do with

1267
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: their braddy toddler nephew who's coming over? And I said,

1268
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: what she needs to do is make her sister and

1269
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: brother in law responsible for the kid. Because I know

1270
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: what's happening here. I've seen it over and over again.

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: You have too these parents, these gen zers and these

1272
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: younger millennials, they don't know what to do with their children.

1273
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: They look at parenting as being an entertainment director. They

1274
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with their kids, so they

1275
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: spend every moment of their parenting time trying to keep

1276
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: their child entertained. And so when they get into a

1277
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: and that's stressful, by the way, you should not be

1278
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: doing that. You should be teaching your kid how to

1279
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: entertain themselves and soothe themself out. So you have a

1280
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: bunch of parents who are stressed, and when they get

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01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: into a situation where there's other people who could possibly

1282
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: keep their kid alive for a few minutes, they take

1283
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: advantage of it, you know, maybe to an abusive point.

1284
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: So I can imagine that's what's happening here. These parents

1285
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: are just as frustrated with their toddler as you are,

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: and they're taking advantage of having what they probably consider well,

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: these are loving family members. They just think it's cute.

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: They're not like us. We have to deal with this

1289
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: every day, so we deserve this time off. And what

1290
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: you have to do is make them. We need to

1291
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: bring back shame. This is what I'm trying to say.

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: We need to bring back shame to our society because

1293
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: shame is a barrier, it's a buffer. It helps people

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01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 2: learn how to act in a high trust society. High

1295
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 2: trust society, I think, is another phrase we're going to

1296
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: be using a lot in the next year. Right that

1297
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: right next to affordability. But I was.

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 4: Watching Dagan What's her face?

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Speaker 5: Dagan?

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Speaker 4: On Fox Business?

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: She is the uh one of the analysts, and she

1302
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: was talking about how when she flies, they were talking

1303
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: about being nice and looking nice, way you travel, and

1304
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: she says, when she flies, she calls out people who

1305
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: are rude on the plane. So if a man doesn't

1306
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: take the bag down for a lady who's struggling, and

1307
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: he's standing right there, she'll say something. And she said,

1308
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's important to make people feel embarrassed about

1309
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: their poor behavior.

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 4: That's and we have gone. We have just come through this.

1311
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: Era where we're supposed to be tolerant and accept and

1312
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: accepting of everything. So when someone's kid acts up in

1313
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: the store, I just went through this the other day.

1314
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: I made a public comment about a kid who acted

1315
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: up in the store and then got a thousand responses of, well,

1316
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: maybe he was autistic, or maybe you know, we're just

1317
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: excusing everything. He has high anxiety, or I have social anxiety.

1318
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: We just excuse all this behavior. And some of it

1319
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: might be excusable for very valid reasons, but I think

1320
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: very little of it is. And in fact, if your

1321
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: child cannot behave themselves in public, then maybe you don't

1322
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: go out in public. You know, even if your child's autistic,

1323
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: maybe you just don't do that. Maybe you don't take

1324
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: him out to dinner. At a nice restaurant if you

1325
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: cannot depend on his behavior. But most of the time

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 2: I think it's just parents do not want to control

1327
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: the behavior. So we've come through this era where we

1328
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: have told people you're fine just the way you are.

1329
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: We shouldn't shame anybody for anything, because that's what prevents

1330
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: them from getting help. And you know what, as we

1331
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: did it with the body positivity movement too, didn't we

1332
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: And you know what, as it turns out, it doesn't help.

1333
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: It makes things worse. It gives people an excuse to

1334
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: be worse. Well, no one said anything to me about

1335
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,839
Speaker 2: playing my video loudly in public, so I guess it's okay.

1336
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: No one cares or everyone's scared of me. So maybe

1337
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: it's time we start saying something right making people feel embarrassed.

1338
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: You should be embarrassed about acting that way in public,

1339
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: and your sister and brother in law should be embarrassed

1340
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: about bringing their toddler to a family gathering and letting

1341
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: him run wild. And so while it might be a

1342
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: bit of a pain for you, you're gonna have to

1343
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: treat your brother in law and sister the way they

1344
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: should be treating the toddler. You're gonna have to train

1345
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: them and and they'll learn real quick, right, they'll learn

1346
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 2: right quick. Every time the toddler comes in and creates

1347
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: havoc for you, you lead.

1348
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 4: Him back to mom.

1349
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh, little Bobby, little Braiden, Little Braiden got into the flower,

1350
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: or little Braiden is under my feet and I can't work,

1351
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: or little Braiden kicked someone, or little Braiden did this.

1352
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: You make them deal with it.

1353
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: After a while, it's going to be so inconvenient that

1354
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: you have to keep finding them and keep interrupting them.

1355
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 2: They're going to find something better to do with little

1356
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: Braiden so he doesn't interrupt them. You got to make

1357
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: it their problem. So I don't I don't think it's uh,

1358
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's that rude. I do

1359
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 2: think it would be rude to disinvite your sister. She's

1360
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: the golden child, got it. There's probably other things going

1361
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: on there that there are very annoying. But I don't

1362
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: think you have to disinvite them. I just think you

1363
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: need to make them responsible for the creature that they've created.

1364
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: We need to do that. We need to bring more

1365
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: of that back. We were talking about Yes, bring back spankings.

1366
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: Bring back spankings. I don't even know why how we

1367
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: got to this place where now it's odd to spank

1368
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: your child. Bring back spankings. I saw a mom the

1369
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: other day. Her kid kicked her in Costco. He kicked

1370
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: her and she got on He was about five, and

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: she got on her knees and she was like, I

1372
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: told Mommy said, don't kick right, because there's consequences. I

1373
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 2: didn't kick her because he's autistic. He might be autistic,

1374
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: but that's not why he kicked her. He kicked her

1375
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: because he wanted ice cream and she didn't want to

1376
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: buy ice cream, so he kicked her and he said,

1377
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: I want ice cream. There's no excuse for that. I

1378
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: don't care if your kid's autistic. Autistic doesn't mean rude.

1379
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: And so she got on her knees and she started

1380
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: to explain. She's explaining for a while. You know it's

1381
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: wrong to hurt people, and would you like it if

1382
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 2: someone kicked you.

1383
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 4: It went on for a minute.

1384
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: I lurked because I knew I was going to talk

1385
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: about her, so I lurked and it went on for

1386
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Now, I think that's cruel, y'all.

1387
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: I think that's the cruel thing. She's extending that child's discomfort.

1388
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: He did something wrong, he's angry about not getting the

1389
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: thing he wants, and now he is sitting in this

1390
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: moment of consequence. One and done, honey, get it over with.

1391
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: If you spent that kid, you've delivered the consequence, and

1392
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: now you're both done with it and you can move

1393
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: on with your day. Instead, you're gonna make him pay

1394
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: for this all day, all day long. You're going to

1395
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: lecture him here. You're going to lecture him when you

1396
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 2: get in the car, and later on when he asks

1397
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: for dessert, you're going to remind him about what he

1398
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: did in the store, and you're going to lecture him again.

1399
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: It's cruel, no wonder all of our kids are so anxious.

1400
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: Just let them experience a consequence and get it over

1401
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: with and release them, release them from the consequences of

1402
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: their actions, and let them move on with that lesson.

1403
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: It's more cruel to prolong it. It is more cruel

1404
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: to sit there and lecture your child for ten minutes.

1405
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: It's confusing to them as well, because they haven't felt

1406
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: any consequences. The only thing they know is that you

1407
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: are disappointed and it's lasting, so they have to sit

1408
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: in that feeling and then it stamps on their hearts.

1409
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: Spanking is not cruel, it's a mercy. It's a mercy.

1410
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: If you've run across the street and you get hit

1411
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: by a car, you're dead or maim But if you

1412
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: run across the street and I yell at you and

1413
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: punish you for disobeying me about the rules about running

1414
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: across the street, by spanking you, you are getting a

1415
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: physical consequence that delivers physical pain that should be reminiscent

1416
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: of the pain that can come if you disobey me

1417
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: on this but doesn't have the same irreversible consequences. You

1418
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: are allowing your child to experience important physical consequences early

1419
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: so they don't experience irreversible ones later. Spaying your darn kids. Okay,

1420
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: you got too many bad kids out there, and you

1421
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: got too many lazy parents out there who feel like

1422
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: it's their duty to be entertainment directors instead of actually

1423
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: raising human beings who become productive members of not just

1424
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: your family, but of your community and society. We have

1425
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: removed parenting from the parents. I just saw. I just

1426
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: saw TikTok. I didn't clip it, but I saw a

1427
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: TikTok video of somebody saying, ladies, how much do you

1428
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: pay for childcare? It's one lady said, I pay five

1429
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month for childcare someone she pays five

1430
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month for someone else to raise her child.

1431
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 2: She's outsourcing parenting. So then of course when she gets

1432
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: to be a parent, she thinks she's supposed to be

1433
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: filling there that time with lessons, with life lessons, with studies,

1434
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: with you know, extracurricular activities, with you know, more studying,

1435
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: with entertainment stuff. You can't just be a parent because

1436
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 2: you farmed out so much of your parenting to other people.

1437
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not judging you on whether or not

1438
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: you have to work, but there's this idea that we're

1439
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 2: all supposed to share the burden of child rearing, and

1440
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: no one's looking at why it costs that much. It

1441
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: costs that much because you're not actually supposed to be

1442
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: farming out to other people to do and your child's priceless.

1443
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 2: By the way, why would you want childcare to be cheap?

1444
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: Why do you want it to be cheap? Your child

1445
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: is literally the most priceless thing you have in your life.

1446
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: So I think you should be worried. If it's cheap,

1447
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: it should cost a lot. It should be priceless. It's

1448
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: why you should probably try to do it yourself. And

1449
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: I think five thousand dollars a month could go a

1450
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 2: long way to letting a mom stay at home with

1451
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: their kids. How'd I get on that? All that to

1452
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: say that all of these things work in tandem. They

1453
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: they work together. Okay, let's go.

1454
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 4: To another break and we'll come back with more. I

1455
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 4: don't know.

1456
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we'll talk about if we want

1457
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: to break down this. I don't know how interested you

1458
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 2: are in the kom dropping, the Komy indictments. I have

1459
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: some thoughts on MTG as well.

1460
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 4: Why don't I do that?

1461
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: I'll tee up MTG and I'm going to tell you

1462
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: what's going on with Marjorie Taylor Green and how you

1463
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: can look at the situation.

1464
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,799
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere.

1465
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Cure Davis filling it for Tony Kats And this is

1466
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today,

1467
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: winding into this Thanksgiving holiday. I'm curre Davis feeling it

1468
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: for Tony Kats. Go find me on x at Cura Davis.

1469
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 2: What else do I have going on that you should

1470
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: go look at? I don't know. I think you should

1471
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: just oh yeah, I know. It's the holidays and you

1472
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: might want some lighthearted listening or viewing. You should go

1473
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: look up my Christmas cheesy Christmas movie podcast. It's called

1474
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: Journey to Christmas Land. My bestie Amelia Hamilton and I

1475
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: do it together. We love cheesy, homemark Christmas movies and

1476
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: we love the silliness of it. We love the formulaic

1477
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 2: aspect to it, We love all of it.

1478
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 4: It's we pull fun at it. But it's all good fun.

1479
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: And so even if you don't watch the movies, I

1480
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: think you'll like it. You'll just have fun hearing us

1481
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: talk about how they set up these plots and all

1482
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 2: of the writing, all of this stuff. But it's called

1483
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: Journey to Christmas Land. You can find that on subst

1484
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: and YouTube. Journey to Christmas Land with Kira and Amelia. Again,

1485
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: lighthearted listening, absolutely zero politics. Although we did do a

1486
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 2: Christmas movie a couple of weeks ago where I was

1487
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: pretty sure that the main character was connected to the

1488
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: Pritzker family. Somehow I just knew it is something about

1489
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: his countenance. What's the trashiest thing someone has ever done

1490
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: at your Thanksgiving? What's the trashiest thing someone has ever

1491
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: done at your things giving a table? I went and

1492
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: looked on Reddit to see what some people wrote, and

1493
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: here are a couple of things that people said. One

1494
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: woman said, the woman my cousin had just married stole

1495
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: a Costco sides box of individually wrapped cheese IT packages

1496
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 2: from our garage. I just happened to notice they were

1497
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: gone when putting food in the fridge. Asked. I asked

1498
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: about it publicly, and she locked up, started stuttering, and

1499
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: went to get them out of her car. She returned

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01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: with the excuse, I thought these were mine. I have

1501
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: a box just like them at all. No, she actually

1502
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: took the box and put them in her car.

1503
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 4: God bless her. Okay, I don't know.

1504
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: The charitable view was that she just was hungry and

1505
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: needed food. The uncharitable views that she was going to

1506
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: go put them in her snackstand, her street side snackstand.

1507
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 4: One person said, we.

1508
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Were hosting a young lady my wife worked with, as

1509
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 2: well as her boyfriend. How the discussion got to how

1510
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: her and her boyfriend once got super trash on Robotussin,

1511
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: and yeah, that was a really weird time. Everyone just

1512
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: got really quiet as we were trying to decide how

1513
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: to fill that one in and where to go with it.

1514
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: For some reason, they got really quiet after that. Some

1515
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 2: of you will like this one. My uncle shot the

1516
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: TV because of how the lions were playing. Shout out

1517
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: the fingers maloy out there in Detroit lions Land. He's

1518
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, the bane of his existence, his joy,

1519
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: and his pain. One person says, my uncle brought a

1520
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,839
Speaker 2: woman other than his wife.

1521
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: She was.

1522
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: She was crazy, a practicing witch who would divine things

1523
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: about us on the spot, and ironically accused my other

1524
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: uncle of having an affair. She got drunk and groped

1525
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: me in the coke closet, saying if only I were

1526
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: young again.

1527
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 4: I was sixty.

1528
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 6: Wow.

1529
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would.

1530
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 4: Want to give this up.

1531
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: For why doesn't everyone think this is the amazing part

1532
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving. That's what Thanksgiving is good for. If you

1533
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: have an uncomfortable relationship with your family, maybe reframe it,

1534
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: maybe instead of looking at it like, oh, I'm gonna

1535
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: go and I'm going to feel bad, and everyone's going

1536
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: to make me feel bad. Just determined that nothing they

1537
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: say matters and just collect the stories. I know, it's

1538
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: a weird time coming up on the holiday season.

1539
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,839
Speaker 4: Not all of us have direct family.

1540
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm estranged from my family, not not by my choice,

1541
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: but my mother actually estranged herself, went no contact with

1542
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: our family because of Trump. She didn't do that during

1543
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: the first Trump administration, but this time around it was

1544
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: too much for her. She's never really been that thrilled

1545
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,839
Speaker 2: with what I do for a living. You can imagine.

1546
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 2: She's a liberal hippie. She's a godless hippie, and so

1547
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: she has stranged herself from us. Now Thanksgiving not so

1548
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: bad because she's in Canada that we have Thanksgiving times

1549
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: at different times anyway, But it's a holiday season and

1550
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: this will be my first Christmas without her. This will

1551
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,839
Speaker 2: be my first Christmas without a phone call, without sending gifts,

1552
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: without getting gifts. And so there's a lot of people

1553
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: out there like that, and I think I kind of

1554
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: want to write about this, but.

1555
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 4: For a lot of you, it's disappointing.

1556
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, in a way, it's maybe even worse

1557
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 2: to be a parent and have your kids do that

1558
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: to you. So if you're out there and you are

1559
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 2: a strange from family and you're feeling like this is

1560
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: a very sad time, let me just give you some encouragement,

1561
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: encourage you to try to find something to be grateful

1562
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: for anyway, and because there is science for that. But also,

1563
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 2: we don't have as as maybe cold as it sounds,

1564
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: we don't celebrate Thanksgiving for your family.

1565
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 4: It is a holiday where we have.

1566
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Family, and we have made it a family holiday, but

1567
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: we don't have Thanksgiving for the family. Thanksgiving is actually

1568
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 2: a time for corporate celebration and corporate gap, corporate recognition

1569
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 2: of gratitude of what we have to be great four

1570
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: in America. So as sad as it might make you

1571
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: feel that you can't be with your direct family, your

1572
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 2: sons and daughters, your parents, I'm very sorry for that

1573
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 2: and I hope that that can change. But the purpose

1574
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving is to find gratitude. So go out there

1575
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: and find people to corporately give thanks with. And don't

1576
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: think that because your family isn't sitting by your side,

1577
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: that you just have to sit at home alone. Here

1578
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: in my house, tomorrow where the house is open and

1579
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: people are going to be coming through. Some people will stop,

1580
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: some people will stay and eat. Anybody can come and go.

1581
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: It's for everybody. But the point is that you celebrate

1582
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: corporately because the task we have ahead of us, my friends,

1583
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna get serious. The task we have ahead of

1584
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 2: us is daunting and historical, and it is the stuff

1585
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: that legends are made of. And so it is a

1586
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: task for a great people.

1587
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: You understand what I mean. It's going to be a

1588
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 4: task for.

1589
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: A grateful people who understand what they are fighting for

1590
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: and no less. All right, let's take a break and

1591
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: when we come back, we will come into our final

1592
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: half hour leading into Thanksgiving Turkey Day.

1593
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 4: Don't fo anywhere.

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01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Kats and you

1595
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: are listening to Tony Kats today. Welcome back everybody to

1596
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today.

1597
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 4: I'm your guests hos Kira Davis.

1598
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: Tony is out. You can find me on ex at

1599
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 2: Kira Davis Stranger Things. Today we've been playing East Stranger Things,

1600
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Bumper music. I don't know if you're a fan, I'm

1601
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: a big fan. At our house, we are Stranger Things,

1602
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: super Fans. My daughter has been counting down the days.

1603
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 2: I actually had made some plans for this evening, but

1604
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 2: I've just realized I have to cancel them because my

1605
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: daughter is making us all watch it. So but that's

1606
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: another great thing about the holidays, right the family all

1607
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: comes together and you know, you do stuff you like.

1608
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Maybe you go to the Sea of the Movies. We

1609
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: always like to see a movie on Christmas Day. To that,

1610
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 2: Hollywood hasn't been giving us a lot to enjoy lately,

1611
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 2: but hopefully that'll change in the Golden Era. You know,

1612
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 2: President Trump has commissioned a rush hour four. We're on

1613
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: our way. Excuse me. I want to talk about Margie

1614
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 2: Taylor Green before we I think a lot of you

1615
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 2: have questions why is she doing this? What's going on

1616
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: with her? And I think I understand her and I

1617
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 2: want to share it with you, But first I want

1618
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: to read you this little exchange she had. She as

1619
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, she has resigned from Congress. She's had a

1620
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: very public split with President Trump. Mike Cernovich, who's a

1621
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 2: big influencer on X, tweeted out, you need to serve

1622
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,520
Speaker 2: your full term, and this is what she how she responded,

1623
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: She says, Oh, I haven't suffered enough for you while

1624
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: you post all day behind a screen. Do I have

1625
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: to stay until I'm assassinated like our friend Charlie Kirk.

1626
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 2: Will that be good enough for you? Crap posting on

1627
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 2: the internet all day isn't fighting? Get off your ass

1628
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 2: and run for Congress. I thought harder than anyone in

1629
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 2: the real arena, and not social media. Put down your

1630
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 2: little pebbles and put your money where your mouth is.

1631
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: And then she goes on to say, typical of Republican

1632
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 2: men telling a woman to shut up and get back

1633
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: in the kitchen and fix me something to eat fu

1634
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 2: and the sweetest most Southern drawl I can enunciate. I

1635
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: have been trying to tell you, To tell all you men,

1636
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: she has that in scare quotes, that our kitchen pantry

1637
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: is empty with spider webs, our house has been ransacked,

1638
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: the windows and doors are broken and busted, and the

1639
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: greedy rich maasters have twisted your minds into a six

1640
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 2: state that you all continue in the two party toxic

1641
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: political system that acts like college football playoffs, yet is

1642
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 2: burying you and your children and their children and their

1643
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: children in a pine box in a shallow brave Get

1644
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: off your ass and fix your own damn food and

1645
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,799
Speaker 2: clean up the kitchen when you're done. That's MTG.

1646
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: All right, what's going on here? Whose side should you

1647
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 4: be on? I'm going to say this.

1648
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 2: I think she's right and wrong. She's right and wrong.

1649
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think she's wrong. Cernovich is

1650
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 2: from my neck of the woods. We actually live very

1651
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 2: close to each other here in southern California. She's not

1652
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 2: wrong about that. She did run for Congress, right, and

1653
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,799
Speaker 2: she won. And she was a very important warrior during

1654
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 2: the Dark Ages, during the Dark Brandon era. She was

1655
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: a very important warrior when there were no Moga voices

1656
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: that were being heard, and she was a fighter. And

1657
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Cernovich is an influencer. Now, I

1658
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 2: don't think it's fair to say influencers don't do anything.

1659
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 4: That's That's something I've.

1660
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Had to come to terms with as an independent opinion journalist.

1661
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Right watching the influencers leapfrog me, you know, and get

1662
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: all the great gigs and do all this stuff, I've

1663
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: had to realize, Well, they are influencing, They're doing something.

1664
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: They're worth the money because they get the word out

1665
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 2: in a way that someone like an MTG can't. So

1666
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 2: it's not fair to say he's not doing anything. But

1667
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 2: she is right. She's out there putting her money where

1668
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: her mouth is, putting words to action. She has done that.

1669
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 2: Does she need to stay there till she gets assassinated

1670
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: like Charlie kirk.

1671
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 5: Are.

1672
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 4: It's really is that?

1673
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 2: What you're is Marjorie Taylor Green so effective in the

1674
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: political space that she's got a hit out on her.

1675
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that. I think

1676
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: that's a little dramatic. But here's what I think is

1677
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 2: happening with MTG. She has not changed. This is who

1678
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: she has always been. And by the way, I don't

1679
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 2: think that she is an ideological trader. I think she

1680
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: still believes all the things that she always believed. I

1681
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 2: do think she's maga. I do think she's a Erica first.

1682
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 2: I do think that she is disturbed by what she

1683
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: sees in Congress, and she thinks that a lot of

1684
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: people there have sold out the American people. I think

1685
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: all of.

1686
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,480
Speaker 4: That is true.

1687
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: And when here's the thing I want to explain to

1688
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 2: you about Trump. Trump isn't just an effective leader because

1689
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: he can get stuff done. He's an effective leader because

1690
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,600
Speaker 2: of his very unique personality. And it's sort of a

1691
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 2: once in a lifetime thing. It's the if factor that

1692
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: you can't manufacture, you just have it. And Trump's personality

1693
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: causes the personality causes. Let me put this in a

1694
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: better way. Trump's personality makes people more of who they are.

1695
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: It makes people more of who they really are. So

1696
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: that's why when you see someone next to him who

1697
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 2: had a diplomatic personality before Trump got into office, and

1698
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 2: then they turn into a crazy person when he gets there,

1699
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: it's because that's who they always were. He just his

1700
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 2: personality just makes them be more of who they are.

1701
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: So Democrats seems like all of a sudden they're descending

1702
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: into lunacy. No, they've always been lunatics. Trump makes them

1703
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 2: be more of who they really are. And that's what

1704
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 2: he's doing to MPTG. She's always been this person. But

1705
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,520
Speaker 2: when Trump was just lurking on the edges of politics,

1706
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 2: when he was pushed out to the fringes exiled, MTG

1707
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,480
Speaker 2: had a purpose. She brought the MAGA message to Congress.

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 2: She stood up for the MAGA voice when nobody else could.

1709
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 2: And because Trump was right she was right, right, She

1710
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: aligned herself with Trump and the Trump movement, and that

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01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 2: made her right. She's still that same person, but now

1712
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: she's still an opportunist. Back in the dark Brandon era,

1713
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 2: the opportunity was Maga. She believed it, but she saw

1714
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: an opportunity in becoming the mouth move piece for that movement.

1715
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:06,480
Speaker 2: The opportunity was Maga. Now she is seeing the opportunity

1716
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I don't know exactly what that opportunity is.

1717
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 2: She's either seeing it through other prospects to make money elsewhere.

1718
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 2: There might be money floating around. Catter is throwing money

1719
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 2: around like crazy in the influencer space and the political space.

1720
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 2: It might be something to do with that. She might

1721
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 2: be just tired of the job.

1722
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 4: I really don't know.

1723
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 2: But whatever it is, she's sensing an opportunity to pounce

1724
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: on this Epsteine thing. And now she's wrong because now

1725
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: it pulls her out of alignment with Trump. And she

1726
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: made the mistake of thinking that she was the movement right.

1727
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 2: She's made the mistake of thinking that she's the draw

1728
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 2: and she's not. It's Trump, it's Trump. And so when

1729
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: she was adjacent to Trump, she had all the fans

1730
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 2: she could handle. Now, she doesn't want to get be

1731
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: in line with Trump for better or worse. You got

1732
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: to go out there on your own. She's taking this

1733
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: opportunity because she thinks this is a winning play.

1734
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: She's an opportunist.

1735
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: So the way to gauge where she's at is what

1736
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: she does next.

1737
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 4: She's leaving Congress a.

1738
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: Which a rich woman. By the way, I think she

1739
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: had tens of thousands in her bank account. She's leaving

1740
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,799
Speaker 2: with tens of millions. I think she's upwards about seventy million.

1741
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: I think I read she's leaving a wealthy woman. How

1742
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 2: do you go to Congress as a poor woman and

1743
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 2: leave as a wealthy woman. You know, you should be

1744
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 2: suspicious of that. Everyone should be suspicious of it. But

1745
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: that's what's happening with Marjorie Taylor Green. Okay, she's not

1746
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: a liar. I don't think she's a liar. I don't

1747
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,600
Speaker 2: think she's a grifter. I think she's an opportunist. I

1748
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 2: think she's a conservative, and she's an opportunist. And I

1749
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 2: do believe her when she says that things are very

1750
01:38:54,600 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 2: wrong in Congress. I believe that. But that response to

1751
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 2: Cernovich telling her to get back in Congress and do

1752
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 2: the job she was elected to do. That's a podcast

1753
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: or response. That is a media response. That's a Candice

1754
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 2: Owens response. That's a response designed for clicks and traffic.

1755
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 4: So my guess is that she's going into media. That's

1756
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: where I think she's going.

1757
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna bet she's heading over to Tucker's network.

1758
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to bet that's where she's heading. And if not,

1759
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 2: she might end up in the mainstream over an MSNBC

1760
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 2: or CNN, which I feel like would be a little

1761
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 2: less lucrative and probably better off going over there with Talker.

1762
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 2: He's got he's got a lot over there.

1763
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 4: But I think.

1764
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: We'll understand her more when we see her next moves.

1765
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 2: But absolutely Cernovich is right to tell her to finish

1766
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: her job. It's the job you were elected to do.

1767
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 2: We are in that this is the most precarious time

1768
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 2: in history, in our nation's history. We need we don't

1769
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 2: need anyone rocking any boats where it's unnecessary. Her leaving

1770
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 2: now is like, that's not a favor to the American people.

1771
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying. She's trying to spin

1772
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 2: it as I'm sticking up for my principles. I'm sticking

1773
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 2: up for the American people. You're sticking in to them

1774
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: in Congress every day, and I don't like what I'm seeing.

1775
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm leaving.

1776
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 4: Fine, serve out your term and then leave.

1777
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 2: That's how you do that, because the American people elected

1778
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 2: you to be there to do a job, particularly your constituents.

1779
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:31,839
Speaker 4: MTG.

1780
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 2: They're conservatives, and they elected you to make sure there

1781
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: was a conservative in that seat. So stay there and

1782
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 2: do your job. Cernovich was right, but MTG. I'm I

1783
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 2: think her use she's outlived her usefulness.

1784
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:49,879
Speaker 4: So Fine be gone.

1785
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: But Trump won't forget, and neither will we, and I

1786
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: think she's going to pay the price for this. I do.

1787
01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: I think everybody overestimates the power of Trump's personnality. Everybody does,

1788
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 2: and that's why the Republicans are They're still not in

1789
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,839
Speaker 2: a position to win next year because they are still

1790
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 2: out there trying to distance themselves socially from Trump. And

1791
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: he's the only person winning. He's the only thing that's winning,

1792
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 2: so we should not be distancing.

1793
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 4: Ourselves from it.

1794
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,560
Speaker 2: He is. She picked the wrong horse. She picked the

1795
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: wrong horse. Trump is eleventy billion two zero when it

1796
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 2: comes to hits on his reputation when it comes to

1797
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: people taking the bet against him eleveny billion to zero.

1798
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't think MTG is gonna fare any better, but

1799
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: we'll see. All right, let's take one more break and

1800
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 2: when we come back, we will wrap it up and

1801
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: head you guys into Turkey day. Feeling good, feeling confident,

1802
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 2: feeling informed. I'm Kia Davis feeling it for Tony Katz

1803
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 2: and you're listening to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back to

1804
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Katz Today. Best theme song in the

1805
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 2: biz and opinion Stranger Things best theme song.

1806
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 4: They get the eighties right.

1807
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 2: I think this is a great if you haven't watched

1808
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: the show, I don't find it scary some people. I

1809
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: like horror stuff, so some people find it scary. So

1810
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 2: if you can do it, I suggest watching the show

1811
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 2: if you're a gen exert because they get the eighties

1812
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 2: exactly right. I mean, it's so good. They are just

1813
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: so spot on with everything. They leave no detail too chance,

1814
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 2: just really good. Let's see what was I going to

1815
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 2: do here? I want to oh, I know, I want

1816
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 2: to play this before we leave. I wanted to play

1817
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 2: this clip from CNN Casey Hunt talking to Representative Ruben

1818
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Diego about this video. The video I'm calling it the

1819
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 2: seditious video of the six congress people critters encouraging our

1820
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 2: military to disobey orders. So you guys know the one now,

1821
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 2: But I thought this was really interesting. Ac Hunt was

1822
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: talking to Reuben Diego asking him why he wasn't in

1823
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 2: the video, and they kind of have a little laugh

1824
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: about it, and he says, well, I was in the

1825
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 2: first one, but I didn't have time to do this

1826
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 2: one play this clip. Did you consider why were Why

1827
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: were you not part of the video?

1828
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1829
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 3: Actually so I was part of the first video. The

1830
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: second video is by the time the script got to

1831
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 3: me and it was in the middle of a lot

1832
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 3: was going on, I just didn't have.

1833
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 6: Time to actually record.

1834
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: If I'm one hundred percent onlinement.

1835
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 5: With them altogether, this stuff happened, you know, it just

1836
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 5: happened not to end up being a recording.

1837
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 6: There's really no other three D three D chess to this.

1838
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 2: The logistics of human life. Yep, all right, fair enough.

1839
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: So what message would you send?

1840
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: My question is what was in the first video. I

1841
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: didn't know there was a first video, he said, I

1842
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: recorded for the first video, so clearly they re record

1843
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 2: they re recorded it. So the first video they didn't

1844
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 2: want for some reason, and they rewrote the script because

1845
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 2: he says, I got the script for the second video,

1846
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: but I just didn't have time to record it. So

1847
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 2: the second the script for the second video wasn't the

1848
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 2: same as the script for the first video, right, because

1849
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: they obviously had to re record it, redo it, and

1850
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: so they sent them a new one. What was the

1851
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: first video, y'all? What was in the first video? I

1852
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 2: think we need to know what that first video was.

1853
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 2: If they felt they had to re record it, was

1854
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: it because it was too.

1855
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 4: Much or not enough?

1856
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: I really think it was probably because it was too much,

1857
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 2: and probably they ran it through the lawyers. What they

1858
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: did was on the line. What they did was on

1859
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 2: the bubble. So I think that everyone's just letting that

1860
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 2: comment slip by, and I think we need to ask

1861
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 2: ourselves what was it supposed to be? It is sedition

1862
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 2: and this is war. But I don't want to end

1863
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: on that note because it's Thanksgiving. So the note I

1864
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: want to end on is that if you are blessed

1865
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 2: enough to have a family to be with this Thanksgiving.

1866
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 2: Then go be with them and when the uncomfortable topics

1867
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 2: come up, have fun with it or just don't talk

1868
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 2: about it, say I don't want to talk about this

1869
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving, you know, but do something to protect your peace.

1870
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 2: But be with the people you love because ultimately, and

1871
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: think about what they tried to do to us over

1872
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: the last five years. Think about all those Thanksgivings we

1873
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 2: had where we had to endure those ridiculous news reports

1874
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: and blog posts about and lectures from our representatives about

1875
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: staying home, don't eat, make your family wear masks, have

1876
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 2: a one hour Thanksgiving. Think about how they tried to

1877
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 2: keep us apart and how they tried to force the

1878
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 2: loneliness epidemic on us. And think about all of the

1879
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 2: other fractures that loneliness epidemic created in our society. You

1880
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 2: going to celebrate Thanksgiving with your family, with your friends,

1881
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: You engaging in that act of community. That's the ultimate

1882
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 2: counterculture act. That's the act of rebellion. That's how we

1883
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: win the war. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. I'm cure David. This

1884
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 2: has been my pleasure to be with you. I'll helpe

1885
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: you enjoy your Turkey Day tomorrow. We're so grateful for

1886
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 2: this country. Thank you, God for America. God bless America,

1887
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: God bless you all out there. I'll catch you on

1888
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:28,919
Speaker 2: the flip side.