1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Good morning, It Stacy and Jim It Snide three WIBC 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: and joining us in the studio, we have former FBI 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Special Agent Corey Grass, spent twenty years in the service 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: in counter terrorism and counter intelligence. 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: And before we. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 3: Get into our topic today, I want to play this 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: audio clip. This is the Trump administration's FBI saying that 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: they have located over twenty seven hundred victims of child 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: exploitation and they also terminated three point eight million dark 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: web pedophile accounts. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: Listen to that. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: I want to talk for men about something that is important. 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: Every single day of the year, the Department of Justice 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: investigates and prosecutes those who abuse in traffic young women 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: and children. Just last year, the FBI had located over 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: two thy seven hundred victims of child exploitation. The Department 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: of Justice found and terminated three point eight million dark 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: web pedophile accounts. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so Corey Grass is joining us. I mean this 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: is this is a huge win obviously. And then there 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: was another report that said the FBI arrest is seventeen 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: hundred predators and a mega crackdown and they located sixty 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: two hundred missing children. But he referenced the dark Web. Now, 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: that's a phrase that you know, I've heard, but I 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: only know what it is, not that I want to 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: go there. 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: But what is the difference between just the Internet I 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: pull up Google and the quote dark web? 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: Well, good morning, thanks for having me again. I'm not 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 5: an expert on the dark web or the tech features 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: on it, but my understanding, my layman's understanding, is it 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: is accessible information that's much harder to get to. There's 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: a way to find it if you know how to 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: get there, but it's not accessible to the general public. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 5: So they're obviously doing a lot of really bad things 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: there that they're trying to hide from the general public, 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: are from law enforcement in general. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: When they say they say, you know, we've got all 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: of these different numbers, sixty two hundred missing children, and 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: then I believe, what did he say, seventeen twenty twenty 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: seven hundred victims. When you have all of these numbers 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: floating out there, how many are legitimately missing persons versus 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: like a runaway or a family dispute or children that 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: were actually found safe without exploitation indicators. 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 5: Well, based on his numbers, and they're probably pretty accurate, 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: it looks like about two of every three are normal 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: rental abductions, missing kids and people like that, but a 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: third of them roughly would be exploited in a sexual 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 5: way most likely. It is overwhelming, as the general public 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: will see based on these numbers. It is just overwhelming 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 5: how prevalent child sexual abuse is everywhere. 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 6: In downstairs, and it seems like it's got a higher 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: profile than it used to be. Like ten years ago, 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: I didn't hear the word human trafficking or don't recall that, 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 6: and now it's part of our everyday stories and we hear. 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 7: About it all the time. 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 6: Is this an issue where these crimes are occurring more 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 6: often or we're just more hip to them and putting 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: more focus on them and making more rests. 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of those same things. I 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: think also we talked in the past about the director 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: of the FBI having priorities, and this director and this 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: administration the president have made a focus on doing these 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: kinds of things. So if you take resources away from 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: some other things that aren't as important that administration and 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 5: they hyper focus on it, immigration being example currently in 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 5: the child and they've also done things like streamline the 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: naming people used to say child pornography, and that was 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 5: kind of a generic thing. They change the name to 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: Child Sexual Abuse Material now so it has a formal 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: name and it has sexual abuse in it, so you 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: know exactly what it means. It's just so prevalent everywhere. 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: It's just overwhelming, and if they choose to focus on it, 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 5: they're going to find it. And just imagine how much 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: is going on they're not finding, you know. 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 6: I think it's interesting what you said about the you know, 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 6: the director you know, really wants to focus this and 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 6: so they're put resources on that. And I think that's 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 6: part of this that we normally don't think about. But 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: if you go back in history, I mean, right after 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 6: nine to eleven, FBI was all about terrorism. I'm sure 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: there were tons of other things that were going on 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 6: that the FBI you didn't have time for because it 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 6: was all about terrorism. 85 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 7: But that makes a lot of sense. 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 6: As time has gone by, and domestic terrorism isn't it 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: the heightened sense that it used to be right after 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: nine to eleven. They've got an opportunity to focus on 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 6: other things. And interesting that Cash Mattel is choosing to 90 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 6: focus on sexual predators and human trafficking with this Yeah, the. 91 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 5: People the top can make a big difference in that 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 5: and direct those objectives on how they push down to 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 5: people out on the street, out the field work in 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 5: the cases. 95 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: Okay, let's bring this closer to home. 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: We've got a big event coming up with the Final 97 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: Four this weekend in Indianapolis. And you have alluded to 98 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: the fact that sometimes these predators or these traffickers, they 99 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: will use special events like this to their advantage. 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: Most definitely, the FBI has always worked leading up to 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: special events Super Bowl, Final Four, any major sporting event, 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 5: those are the big ones because unfortunate, the bad guys 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 5: know how that works. People come here to party. People 104 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 5: Indianapolis is hosting. I think it's this weekend, Indianapolis is hosting, 105 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 5: and so people come here looking to have fun, looking 106 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: to party, looking to drink. Lit'll create and do the 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 5: things they want to do. And unfortunately there's a dark 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 5: side to that where coming into town, a lot of 109 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: times they will bring miners or women that are being 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: held against their will or you know, exploited in a 111 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 5: sexual way. Setting up for that. So generally the federal 112 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: government will respond to that in advance and start putting 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 5: up more information to try and help those victims. The 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: FBI uses sources, you know, human information that people will 115 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 5: give us and tell us about crimes ranging from a 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 5: street level crime up to terrorism anything between. So they'll 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: start recruiting sources or tapping their sources that they have 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 5: a history with to tell them, you know, what's going 119 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: on and how they can try and prevent it from happening. 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: So, with the Final Four coming up this weekend, they 121 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: obviously have task forces that are already in place. 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: How far in advance do they work on something like this? 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 5: When they did the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, I 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 5: can't remember that far back exactly, but it was at 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 5: least a year, probably more more than that. I mean, 126 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: they really started ramping up the year in advance. Before that, 127 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 5: they had a point person Indianapolis that was kind of 128 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: leading to charge and the resources that go into a 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: major event like that. Maybe the Final Four is not 130 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: quite as big as a Super Bowl, obviously, but the 131 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: resources they bring in, whether it's swat teams, helicopters, hushs, negotiators, 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: social workers that the FBI has social workers that do 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 5: deal with victims of crime like that too, they bring 134 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: they just really ramp up the manpower leading up to 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: it to deal with it when it happens. 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting you talked about how the FBI 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 6: preparing for the Final Four in human trafficking may be 138 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 6: an aspect of that, and that's something I'd never really. 139 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 7: Thought of it. 140 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 6: I think of the FBI assisting with security at a 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 6: big event like the Final Four, my first thought goes to, Oh, 142 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 6: they're trying to prevent you know, domestic terrorism or something 143 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 6: like that. How involved in what's the scope of the 144 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 6: FBI's involvement in a major event like this weekend's Final Four. 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: It'll be significant, very significant the end episodes. Well, we know, 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: yes and no. That's and I actually I was on Fox, 147 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: you know, I had a couple years ago talking about 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 5: the Mini Marathon security because it's so different too, it's 149 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 5: so spread out to try and keep track of. Yes, 150 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 5: there's things you will know. You'll see more uniform officers, 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: a helicopter, more police cars, more market units. You won't 152 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: see plain clothes officers. You won't see surveillance cameras hidden, 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: you won't find people with body cameras. You won't find 154 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 5: the sources for the weeks and days and months leading 155 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: up to it, where they're asking for information about what 156 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: they're hearing on the street and currently while these events 157 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: going on. So they will have a adjoint operation center 158 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: with the local police that will be fielding calls in 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: the probably the weeks leading up to that that will 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: somebody will call and say I have a suspicion on 161 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: this person. They'll deploy people out to fall up on 162 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 5: those leads. 163 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: Corey Grass is joining us former FBI special agent, And 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm curious from a parental angle, mom and dad thinking 165 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: about coming down to Indianapolis and participating in some of 166 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: the events going on with the Final four. 167 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: What should they be aware of? What should they be 168 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: looking for? 169 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: Really the same thing they look for on a daily basis, 170 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 5: just to hyper focus it when you're in that type 171 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: of crowd. I mean, no one's going to I shouldn't 172 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: say no one. Very very seldom will someone snatch a 173 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: child from you, And we talked about those with regular kidnapping, 174 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: you know, very fewer just random abductions. It's going to 175 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: be a family member who takes a vanute of a 176 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: child or somebody who the child was left in a 177 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: precarious situation where someone took advantage of that, So again 178 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: I would not I'm a hyper focus parent, believe a 179 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: helicopter parent proudly so. And of course I don't let 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 5: my kids out of my sight when I came in 181 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 5: they're a little but there's nothing dangerous in that regard. 182 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 5: It's just it's mostly the underbelt. Like Jim said, he 183 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: never would have thought about leading up to the event. 184 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: That's because Jim doesn't think like a criminal and the 185 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: criminal that's why we want people to eve to enjoy 186 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 5: those events. We don't want the normal public to have 187 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: to stress about things like that. 188 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: So what investigative tools or partnerships, for example, the National 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Center for Missing and Exploited Children are most effective in 190 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: locating missing children and identifying predators. 191 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: It seems to be even these days that agency, the 192 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: National Center, seems to be sending a lot of leads. 193 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: Just recently in Bloomington, where I used to be based 194 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: at that police department, they had a case down there 195 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: that came from that. I think they have a lot 196 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: of software technology that can filter things and then once 197 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 5: they get some sort of blip on the radar or 198 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: data point, then they send out to a local department 199 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 5: who acts on it from there. 200 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: How do how does the FBI differentiate between predators caught 201 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: through undercover operations or those that are arrested via digital 202 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: evidence online stuff? 203 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: I think very similar. Again, I never worked that type 204 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: of violation. Honestly, I steered away from it. It's super 205 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: important work. And I actually had a buddy in Miami 206 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: that went to that squad when I went to a 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: different squad, and his argument was he's making a bigger 208 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: difference in the case I was working. One hundred percent 209 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: agree with him, A thousand percent agree with him. However, 210 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: I know how I am, how my mind works, and 211 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: it messes with my mind today. 212 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: You can't put it away right. 213 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: It's hard for me to separate the things I've seen 214 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: just randomly that I wasn't even trying to find the 215 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: stories I've heard just through my own ears. Still is 216 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 5: not healthy. 217 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: I've been told through people that I know as well 218 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: who have investigated this type of crime, and they tend 219 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: to burn out because the prosecution doesn't seem to fit, 220 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: like the prosecution seems to be too lenient. 221 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: Funny, you should mention that I had example of my 222 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: notes today again, Town of Monroe County, we just had someone. 223 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 5: Funny enough, I had mentioned this person in the past 224 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: to a friend of mine on the police department random times. 225 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: Evidently that's something I found off about the person. I 226 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: didn't know what it was, but i'd mentioned I guess 227 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 5: enough to that when they executed a search WAN at 228 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 5: the person's house, they called to let me know that 229 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 5: they were there. That's not what I suspected. I just 230 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 5: thought something was off and that person was doing something 231 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: according to the problem cause affidat. But it's out in 232 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 5: the public, as young as younger than five year old 233 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 5: kids being sexual abuse on video. I believe thousands of images, 234 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: thousands of videos. They keep tracking the numbers for the severity, 235 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: and I don't remember I don't want to quit exact 236 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: number two or three. Four days later, I saw that suspect, 237 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: that subject who've been arrested for those crimes, posted on 238 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: social media flying on an airplane leaving and posting some 239 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 5: sort of message about. 240 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: Were they were out They were, Yeah. 241 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 7: They will. 242 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: It's even to me, as a former law enforcement person 243 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 5: who never worked those type of cases, when I ask 244 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: my friends, like, what will happen to that guy? 245 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 7: It's staggering. 246 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: How little will happen that person. 247 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 6: I want to go back to what you talked about 248 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: before about certain types of personalities going to certain different 249 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 6: areas of investigation with the FBI, because I would think that, 250 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 6: you know, if you're investigating horrific crimes like crimes against 251 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 6: children like this, that you have to have the correct personality. 252 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: Does the FBI offer resources for that? Is The type 253 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 6: of person that's in that line of work tend to 254 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: burn out faster. That's got to be a really challenge 255 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 6: to see these horrific images and videos every single day 256 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: as part of your job. 257 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how they do it. I just 258 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 5: I personally could not. I would have to find another 259 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: job if they tried to direct me that to that 260 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: line of work. I just know how I am. I 261 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: couldn't have done it. Like I said, I have some 262 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: issues with it today and I really never worked at 263 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 5: full time. 264 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: There's got to be a high amount of attrition there is. 265 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: And there's actually there's some horrible cases where I've heard 266 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 5: of around the country where people work on a full 267 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: time basis and somehow become addicted to it and I'll 268 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 5: become a suspect and the same thing. But I guess 269 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: it just messed with their mind so much. Yeah, it 270 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: works them somehow, some way that they have become a 271 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: suspect instead of a good guy. 272 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about this American journalist. 273 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: We've got Corey Grass, former FBI special agent, joining us, 274 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: and this is about the American journalist Shelley Kittleson. 275 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: Who was kidnapped in Baghdad. It was reported that she 276 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: was taken by armed men on a busy street. So 277 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: where does the FBI go from here? 278 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: Well, the credit that the article claimed that she was 279 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 5: worn several times, also that a group that was based 280 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 5: out of Iran had targeted her and was going to 281 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: either assassinate her or kidnapp her. She chose to stay 282 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: in country unfortunately. And I saw there was actually a 283 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: video forgetting kidnaped. I believe he was, Yeah, it was 284 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: when I read that article. Is compared that to Nancy 285 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 5: Guthrie case. Again, so imagine we can't as of now, 286 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: they're not solving the Nancy Guthrie case that we know 287 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 5: of at least. And how how many resources we have 288 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: based in the cotton the United States or CONUS as 289 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: we call, how many resources and videos and things we 290 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: have here and how tough that is. Now extrapolate that 291 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: to a foreign country where we have a very very 292 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 5: small footprint, particularly in a hostile environment, and there's not 293 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: a whole lot of zone. Yeah, there's not a whole 294 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: lot of US citizens or you know, military people FBI 295 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: as there are some probably work in the area, but 296 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 5: not obviously not nearly what Nancy Guthrie is getting. So 297 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: imagine how difficult that case is going to be to 298 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: solve in a positive way. 299 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: Do you think that there are FBI personnel that are 300 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: embedded with the Diplomatic Security Service or even the State 301 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: Department that are going to be working on this case. 302 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I would say quite possible. Definitely, they'll definitely 303 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 5: have ties to the States. I mentioned you, I think 304 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: a week or two ago the case that I had 305 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 5: in Syria and it was run I ran it from Indneapolis. 306 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 5: I was a team leader at the time, and then 307 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: we had a supervisor at headquarters in DC that was 308 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: assisting with it. We ran the operations. We had no 309 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: relations with Syria at that point, so we ran the 310 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 5: operation through our legal act that shay in Ankara, Turkey, 311 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: and then we had to send people into Syria. Tribes, 312 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: people to try and work that. So probably something similar 313 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: to that situation. 314 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: So when you've got this situation about this kidnapped journalist 315 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 6: American journalists yesterday in Iraq, who takes the lead because 316 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: there's so many government agencies involved. You got the State Department, 317 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 6: you got the US military, and I'm sure the CIA 318 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 6: and all these other agencies. And we talked about about 319 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 6: the FBI's involvement when something happens on foreign soil like that, 320 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 6: which US. 321 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 7: Agency is kind of the lead in all of this. 322 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: I believe if she's a US citizen, then the FBI 323 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: would take the lead to open the case. I know 324 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: about taking the lead per se. And again people get 325 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: down on the lead out who's in charge of what. 326 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: Everybody has their own roles, and you can you can 327 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 5: all be in charge, you can all lead the case. 328 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 5: But the FBI typically has an open case on they 329 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 5: will maintain the case over the years until it's resolved. 330 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: And now again that doesn't mean they're not working hand 331 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: in hand, like you said, with CIA, State Department, Military, 332 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: their Iraqi counterparts, or anybody else. There's obviously every country 333 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: has people flowing through it, so we may have a 334 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: source out of Australia that's traveling through Iraq, or has 335 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: business there, or is serving somehow that will give us 336 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: information there, or has. 337 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: Human intelligence on the ground that can help out. 338 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: So what what would the operational limitations be, because this 339 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: is a mistic American in a conflict zone. 340 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: Numerous. 341 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I means on. 342 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: The language barrier, to the cultural stuff, to the anger 343 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: about the war twenty years ago, to personal issues there, 344 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: if that you know, if they're if are imagine on 345 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: the lowest level, imagine that the FBI person has a 346 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 5: bad day and a bad attitude with somebody they first 347 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 5: met from the Iraqi military. How that sets it tone 348 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: for something, or vice versa, if the Iraqis don't want 349 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: the Americans there in the first place. So those are 350 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: all the issues you have to work through. I was 351 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: assigned to Bureau prisons for years and it was kind 352 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: of the same thing. They had mentioned to me at 353 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: the time that they liked me, they didn't like the FBI, 354 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: which is funny to say because it's get FBI. It's 355 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: a bad name because they have rules that have to 356 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: follow when the agendas they're trying to go for, and 357 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: the Bureau prisons did as well. So it's easy to 358 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: get along on the ground until the bosses get in 359 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: charge or bosses start having a hand on what's going 360 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 5: to happen. I mentioned that story because it's the same there. 361 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: I mean, the US military has an agenda, the FBI 362 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: has an agenda, and they all go don't get her 363 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: back obviously safely, but they all have their own agenda 364 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: in the way. 365 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: What do you think the likelihood of that is? 366 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 5: If they get her back safely and quickly. Unfortunately, I'm 367 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: a very broken man, and I would say pretty slim. 368 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: Really Yeah, Okay, I hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I do too. 369 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Corey Grass. Where can people find you? 370 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: The easiest place is on Facebook. I'm just Corey Grass 371 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: co r Y g r ass Or. I consult with 372 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: a company called Apex Solutions Group at Apexdefend dot com. 373 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: We appreciate you, thanks for coming in, Thanks for having me. 374 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 375 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 7: What is your problem for? I got a lot of 376 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 7: problems with your We have a problem with what's your problem? 377 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 7: I've got ninety nine problems on ninety three double TWYPC. 378 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: It's a little segment where we have some group therapy 379 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: what's your problem with, Jim? 380 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I got the problem today. 381 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 6: So you know, I'm a huge Caitlin Clark fan, love 382 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 6: everything about Kaitlin Clark, and we're getting ready for the 383 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 6: WNBA season. Here's the problem I've got. Well, okay, so 384 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: there's more before I get to the problem. Okay, So 385 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 6: we love Kaitlin Clark, but we know that Kaitlyn Clark 386 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 6: kept getting bullied and pushed around for her first year 387 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 6: in the WNBA, and then the fever got Sophie Cunningham. 388 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 6: Sophie Cunningham was the enforcer. And of course there was 389 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 6: that game against the Connecticut Sun last year where you know, 390 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 6: they were beating up on Kaitlin Clark, throwing her to 391 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: the ground and Sophie Cunningham grabs j. C. Sheldon throws 392 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 6: her to the ground. Sophie's the enforcer in all of this. Well, 393 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 6: here's the problem. Yeah, the WNBA has some expansion teams 394 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 6: this year, and coming up on Friday is the expansion Draft. Now, 395 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: part of that is each existing team gets to protect 396 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: only five players, yep. And so everybody is predicting that 397 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 6: Sophie Cunningham will not be one of those five players 398 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: that the Indiana Fever protects. 399 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's not a guaranteed protective player, which means 400 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: her roster spot is uncertain. 401 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's likely that she'll because she's such a good 402 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 6: player and such a good enforcer that it's likely one 403 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 6: of the expansion teams is going to draft her, and 404 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark could lose her enforcer this year for the WNBA. 405 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 6: That's my problem. I don't want to go back to 406 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 6: where she's just getting beat up on the court every day. 407 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so the expansion teams that you mentioned, You've got 408 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: Portland Fire and also Toronto Tempo. This doesn't necessarily mean 409 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 3: that Sophie Cunningham would. 410 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Be going to one of those teams. She could be 411 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: going anywhere if the Fever don't retain her. 412 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 6: Well, that is also AI's a There's two possibilities on 413 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 6: how she could leave. The most likely possibility is that 414 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 6: she gets rafted in this expansion draft on Friday. If 415 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 6: that doesn't happen, yeah, she's still got to get a 416 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 6: contract with the Fever, but I think all indications are 417 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 6: the Fever want her back if she doesn't get picked 418 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 6: up in this expansion draft on Friday. The bad news 419 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 6: is the teams don't have to let us know who 420 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 6: they protected, so we're all speculating that it's yes, we're 421 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 6: all speculating right now as to who the teams had 422 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: to have their protected players into the WNBA offices. 423 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 7: Earlier this week. 424 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: Those names are not being released publicly as of right now, 425 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: so we're really not going to find out until Friday 426 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 6: if Sophie Cunningham was one of the five protected and 427 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 6: whether or not she'll be back for the Indiana Fever 428 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 6: and continue to be Caitlin Clark's heavy and muscle out 429 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 6: on the court. 430 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: So Lexi Hull could be another one. 431 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: So they are predicting. I think everybody thinks that Lexi 432 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 6: Hall will be protected. I think the five are. They'll 433 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 6: obviously protect Caitlin Clark, Lexie Hall, Aliah Boston, Kelsey Mitchell, 434 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 6: and then the fifth one of most people are protecting 435 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 6: projecting right now that that'll be Mikayla Timpson. 436 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: But even if the Fever protected her Accountingham, she could 437 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: still leave in free agency afterwards. 438 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 6: She could, but it's unlikely because everything that we're seeing 439 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 6: right now is that the Fever want her back. She 440 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 6: seemed to play so well with Caitlin Clark and the 441 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 6: rest of that team last year. It just kind of 442 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 6: makes sense. The bigger, the bigger risk right now for 443 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 6: the Indiana fevers that she gets drafted on Friday, so. 444 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: We have a big day for NASA. 445 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Of course, they've got the Artemis two lifting off later 446 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: this evening. And it was just yesterday twenty four hours 447 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: before they shoot some astronauts into space, that the administrator 448 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: declared that, yeah, you think Sali in life exists, We're 449 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: going to talk about that coming up. You're listening to 450 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 3: ninety three WIBC. 451 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 8: I have like a slightly different take on this one, right. 452 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 8: I think most people, if you ask them at the 453 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 8: night sky, they look up and see all the stars 454 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 8: and they're like, Okay, well that's one galaxy. There's two 455 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 8: trillion galaxies, and how many stars are there? And how 456 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 8: many of them have exoplanets in a goldilock owned Yeah, sure, 457 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 8: surely there must be life out there somewhe. I would say, 458 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 8: there is a chance there could be life out there 459 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 8: everywhere if we go now. It doesn't mean it looks 460 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 8: like us, it doesn't mean it has the tentacles like 461 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 8: you have in the movies. But I would say, if 462 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 8: we can get to Mars and we can bring samples back, 463 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 8: I'd put it in a better ninety percent chance that 464 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 8: we could prove there is some there was some microbial 465 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 8: life on Mars. 466 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: That was the NASA administrator, Jared Isaacman, and he says 467 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: that there's two trillion galaxies and lots of stars out there, 468 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a ninety percent chance. 469 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: That there's alien life out there. 470 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: And this he said just hours before Artemis two is 471 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: going to lift off, fly around the Moon, and then 472 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: return back to Earth on their ten day mission. So 473 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: the Artemis two starts with six engines producing eight point 474 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: eight million pounds of thrust, and it's going to end 475 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: with a splashdown off the coast of California, and a 476 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 3: ship is going to recover the capsule and the astronauts. 477 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: So we're sending humans to the Moon the same week. 478 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: The NASA director says, aliens exist. Boy, we are spacing 479 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: really hard right now. 480 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: This is the most space ever it is. 481 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 6: It's a big deal and I'm glad we're talking about 482 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 6: it so much on today's show because now now while 483 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 6: these astronauts will not be touching down on the Moon, 484 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: they're going to kind of go around the Moon and 485 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 6: then come back, similar to what we did at the 486 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 6: beginning of the Apollo program. The first rocket that we 487 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 6: sent to the Moon. We didn't put people on there. 488 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 6: We sent some astronauts around and came back. And this 489 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 6: is all leading toward the next moon landing for the 490 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: United States, which is probably coming in the next year 491 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: or two. But I do find it interesting that he's 492 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 6: timing this perfectly by coming out and saying that, Hey, 493 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 6: there gotta be aliens out there. That's just the fact 494 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 6: of the matter. We've been going down this road forever. 495 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 6: I remember back in the nineties, specifically Bill Clinton as president, 496 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 6: and he calls a press conference and he's in the 497 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: White House briefing room and we just discovered, you know, 498 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 6: fossilized you know, bacteria on Mars. And it kind of 499 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 6: turned out probably wasn't fast fossilized bacteria that we found 500 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 6: on Mars. At this point, I am going to need 501 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: a spacecraft to land on the lawn at the White 502 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 6: House and little Green men to come out before any 503 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: of this alien talk really hits home. 504 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: At this point, he did say, if we can get 505 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: to Mars and we can bring some samples back. I 506 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: put it at a better than ninety percent chance that 507 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: we could prove that there's some microbial life on Mars. 508 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: Didn't we already do this? You had NASA's Perseverance rover 509 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: had been exploring the crater on Mars. 510 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: It landed in twenty twenty one, and they said it's 511 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: now being reported potential evidence of life in a rock. 512 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we've already done this, and. 513 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: I get scientists are going to lose their mind over this, 514 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 6: and theologists and all sorts of really smart people would 515 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: be would be very, very interested if we can find 516 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 6: any signs of life, even microbial life, on another planet. 517 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: But for the. 518 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: American public, it's going to take a little bit something 519 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 6: more interesting in that to really catch our attention. 520 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 7: We're not going to go running around like crazy. 521 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: If we find that there was some bacteria on another 522 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 6: planet at one point in time in the past. We're 523 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 6: going to need to see I mean, that's what the 524 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: American people really want to see. We want to see 525 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 6: intelligent life. We want to see space aliens. That will 526 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 6: be the marker as if we decide, okay, then we're 527 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 6: not alone in this universe. 528 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: Well do with this what you Will. 529 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: Yesterday you had former Congressman Matt gets saying that he 530 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 3: was briefed about a secret program where aliens were breeding 531 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: with humans. 532 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: To make a hybrid race. 533 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: He says the humans were involved, and they were humans 534 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: that were abducted from war zones and migrant caravans. 535 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that was in April Fool's Day joke 536 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: that he was just putting on a silly little story there. 537 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, don't go to Twitter today. I'm going to you 538 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 7: right now, Twitter, he said. 539 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: A guy in an army uniform came in and briefed 540 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: him on that. 541 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Twitter is a problem today because it's April Fools 542 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 6: and so you've got I mean, you've got all of 543 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: these people, I mean, you know, supposedly respected people around 544 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 6: the world that are putting out posts today on Twitter 545 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: as if that information is fact. 546 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: Well, like you just said, Mike Huckaby, Yeah, Mike. 547 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: Huckaby, he was currently the ambassador to Israel, just posted 548 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 6: on Twitter moments ago that he got a call from 549 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson. 550 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: Tucker said he's wrong about Israel. 551 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 6: He wants to come to Israel for Easter and publicly 552 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: say that he's been wrong about Trump and his criticism 553 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: of Trump and his criticism of Israel. And then at 554 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 6: the end of the post it didn't say anything. 555 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 7: Like April fools. 556 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 6: He just left it out there when clearly that's not 557 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 6: happening today. So Twitter's down bad today. It's really a 558 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 6: bad place. 559 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: So did you have to go to the comments and 560 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: see what groc had to say? 561 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: No, I didn't even have to. 562 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 6: That's how much I know it's fake. There's no way 563 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: that that's happening this weekend. I don't even need to 564 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 6: research it more. It's one hundred percent going to happen. 565 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: And Mike Huckabee is just putting it out there, and 566 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 6: then the white out that he gets to put all 567 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: over it at some point is like, oh, April. 568 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: Fool, April fools, just having a little fun on just 569 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: having fun. Okay, So this isn't a joke. A federal 570 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: judge has stopped construction on the ballroom at the White House. 571 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: A judge stopped construction. So is this judicial overreach? Is 572 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: this what you have been warned about? Have we been 573 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: talking about this forever and ever? Yep, here's another example, 574 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: and we talked about this yesterday. How this four hundred 575 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: million dollars ballroom at the White House is not a 576 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 3: ballroom at all. 577 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: But yet you've got this judge saying Nope, you can't 578 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: do that. 579 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, the news came out yesterday and Trump said this 580 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 6: that because of a lawsuit, because of this specific lawsuit, 581 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 6: they had to, you know, show details that they're building 582 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 6: a pretty significant military installation underneath this construction that's happening 583 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 6: at the East Room of the White House. 584 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 7: And our reaction to that was duh, of course they are. 585 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 7: I mean, there's so. 586 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 6: Many underground facilities underneath the White House. Yeah, that's of 587 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 6: course what they were going to be doing. So much 588 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 6: so six months ago when first Trump first mentioned the ballroom, 589 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 6: you came out and said, oh, yeah, you know, they're 590 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 6: going to be building some sort of military facility beneath 591 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: that ballroom that they're building. 592 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 7: And everybody looked at you, like, what are you talking about? 593 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 6: Tinfoil hat casey, you're going crazy over there. And then 594 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: six months later Trump's like, yeah, and I know we're 595 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 6: told totally what happened, totally building a military facility underneath 596 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 6: the ballroom yeaheah. 597 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: He criticized the ruling. He said that they're going to 598 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: appeal it. And he also said this. 599 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 9: He's so wrong. This is being financed privately. It's a 600 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 9: donation that's being given by companies, very rich companies, very 601 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 9: rich people. So that four one hundred and fifty years 602 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 9: they've wanted a ballroom here, we're going to have the 603 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 9: finest form, I believe anywhere. 604 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: In the world. Okay, so Trump saying that he's wrong. 605 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: This is private money, it's private donation, privately funded construction 606 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 3: at the White House, and the judge halted it. The 607 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: only reason to do this is to use the courts 608 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: to once again harass the president. 609 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: That's what's happening here. Although although and here's the big butt. 610 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the idea of these private companies 611 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: funding stuff either. I mean, I don't want taxpayers to 612 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: pay for it. But at the same time, how special 613 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: and what sort of special treatment are these private companies 614 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: going to receive from the administration for ponying up the money. 615 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'll take it's the lesser of 616 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 7: two evils. 617 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: What would you rather have four hundred million and tax 618 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 6: dollars building this ballroom or four hundred million in private 619 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 6: donations building it? Oh and by the way those donating 620 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 6: companies may get a little something something on the side. 621 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: I will take private investment over our tax dollars being 622 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 6: spent every single time. 623 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: Well, are they going to get loaded government contract? Most 624 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: likely that's what they're going to get on the other 625 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: end of this. 626 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 6: Again, it's the lesser of two evils. I don't have 627 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 6: a third solution for building a ballroom. Trump's not going 628 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 6: to come out of his personal fortune and build it. 629 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 6: But there could even be potential, you know, ethical issues 630 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 6: if he did that. 631 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 7: I think this jod what you got here is pay 632 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: to play. Maybe what you might have pay to play 633 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 7: what I got here. 634 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 6: If the tax dollars are spent, which is I guarantee 635 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 6: you the US to spend in more of our tax dollars, 636 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: there's going to be more national debt and there's going 637 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 6: to be more. 638 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 7: Inflation because of it. That's a guarantee. 639 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 6: I'll take a maybe play for play as opposed to 640 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 6: a guaranteed hit on taxpayer money. 641 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: So you've got Donald Trump speaking to the nation. It's 642 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: regarding I ran that's going to happen around nine o'clock tonight. 643 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: Of course you can hear that right here on WIBC. 644 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: Another thing Trump said is that he's going to the 645 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: Supreme Court when they hear the birthright citizenship case. He said, 646 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: no more anchor babies. So what you've got here as 647 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: a sitting president showing up to watch the Supreme Court 648 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: here a case that he cares about. That's that's unprecedented. 649 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: But you also got to wonder is he going so 650 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: that he can look them in the eye and give 651 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: them the ugly stare of do what I want or else? 652 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: Well, if you're a Supreme Court justice and you're worried 653 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 6: about the ugly stare from Donald Trump, you shouldn't be 654 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 6: a Supreme Court justice. There are three separate branches of 655 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 6: the federal government. The courts are certainly separate from the 656 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 6: executive branch. And if those Supreme Court justices are so 657 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 6: weak and so easily influenced that Trump just being in 658 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 6: the room causes them to lose their core values and 659 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: go away that you know, they might not normally have 660 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 6: gone if Trump wasn't in the room. I think is 661 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: is really pushing it a lot on this. Although it 662 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: is interesting that a sitting president has never gone to 663 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court to sit and watch arguments, on a 664 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 6: case like this. I was surprised by that. I'm surprised 665 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 6: the president just hasn't even just gone. If I was president, 666 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 6: I just want to go to kind of see what happens, 667 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 6: see the show, find out what happens. During one of 668 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 6: these Supreme Court arguments, he. 669 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: Told reporters that he's going to go because he's followed 670 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: the issue closely. 671 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 9: And this is not about Chinese billionaires or billionaires from 672 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 9: other countries who all of a sudden have seventy five children, 673 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 9: or fifty nine children in one case, or ten children 674 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 9: becoming American citizens. This was about slaves. 675 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 10: And if you take a look slaves, we're talking about 676 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 10: slaves from the Civil War. And if you take a 677 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 10: look at when it was filed, all of this legislation, 678 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 10: all of this everything having to do with birthright citizenship, 679 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 10: it was at the end of the Civil War. The 680 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 10: reason was it had to do with the babies of 681 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 10: slaves and the protection of the babies of slaves. It 682 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 10: didn't have to do with the protection of multi millionaires 683 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 10: and billionaires wanting to have their children get an American citizenship. 684 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 9: It is the craziest thing I ever had. It's been 685 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 9: so badly handled by legal people over the years. 686 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: He says it's been so badly handled by legal people 687 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: over the year as well, it's been blocked by lower 688 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: courts as likely violating the Constitution. Of course, this case 689 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: centers around the Fourteenth Amendments citizenship clause, which has long 690 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: been interpreted to grant citizenship to virtually anybody who was 691 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: born in US soil. But this could genuinely be one 692 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: of the most important Supreme Court cases in modern history. 693 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: And Trump attending means that this is a really high 694 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: priority for him. 695 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump is if he goes or if he's just 696 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: threatening to go. 697 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 6: Whether you love Trump, whether you hate Trump, whether you 698 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: think he's doing a great job or doing a bad job, 699 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 6: he is the most consequential president that we've had in 700 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 6: decades easily, if not even longer than that. And I'm 701 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 6: actually kind of surprised that nobody has really ever taken 702 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 6: a like a serious run at birth right citizenship before. 703 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 6: I mean, like he talked about, it's been around since 704 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: the end of the Civil War as far as as 705 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 6: far as you know, an amendment to the Constitution, and 706 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 6: the fact that nobody has really, you know, taken a 707 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 6: really hard run at it and taken it all the 708 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 6: way to the Supreme Court is a surprise. This one 709 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 6: could go either way. I think Trump's got I think 710 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 6: Trump's got an uphill battle. If I had to, if 711 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 6: I had to put this in betting terms, I would 712 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 6: say that Trump winning this case is probably slim. If 713 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 6: you're betting on it, it's probably plus three hundred. It's 714 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 6: unlikely to happen. If you put money on it, you're 715 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 6: gonna get great odds because I think Trump's probably gonna 716 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 6: lose this case at the Supreme Court. 717 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: So you've got TMZ with a bit of a rebrand. 718 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: Long known for Hollywood gossip and slop, they are now 719 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: calling out not only Republicans but also Democrats and they 720 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: say rhinos. You remember we talked about how they were 721 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: asking people to send them photos of any congress people 722 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: on vacation, and they receive pictures of Lindsey Graham, the 723 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: biggest cootie I've ever seen, who is on vacation at Disneyland, 724 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: and also Garcia, who was in Las Vegas bellied up 725 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: to the casino tables. 726 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Doing some gambling. Well, here they are saying that it's 727 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: just not one party, it's both parties. 728 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 11: And the point of this is to show how fat 729 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 11: up the American people are, because we are, and this 730 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 11: it's so insulting that they are. You know, the Republicans 731 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 11: blamed the Democrats, so Lindsay Graham was quick to say, 732 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 11: it's the Democrat's fault. No, it's both your faults. Because 733 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 11: two sides have to come together to compromise, they are 734 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 11: unable to do it. And yeah, one can blame the other, 735 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 11: but the bottom line is you've got to figure out 736 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 11: how to do it in order to run government, and 737 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 11: they haven't done it. And not only have they not 738 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 11: done it, they just threw up their hands and said 739 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 11: we're leaving. I mean, we have a vacation schedule spring 740 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 11: break and that's what they did. 741 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is what they did. 742 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 7: And TMZ is known as a very liberal leaning outlet. 743 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: And earlier in the clip of the part we didn't there, 744 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: they were calling out Bernie Sanders too. 745 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 746 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 7: So the backstory on this. 747 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 6: TMZ traditionally gossip and entertainment news and leans extraordinarily left. 748 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 6: But they've really had their profile raised in the last 749 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 6: several months, mostly because of what happened in the Nancy 750 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: Guthrie case and the fact that some people sent TMZ 751 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: as a news outlet, you know, ransom information, and TMZ 752 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 6: raised its profile. So I think TMZ figures, oh geez, 753 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 6: we're really killing it right now. What else can we 754 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 6: do on this? And as we know that media outlets, 755 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 6: the one thing they love more than being political or 756 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 6: partisan to one side is money, ratings, ratings, and money. 757 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 6: And another key part of this too is TMZ is 758 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 6: not a traditional news organization and generally does not adhere 759 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 6: to traditional journalistic standards because they pay people when you 760 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 6: send them this information. If you've got a great picture 761 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 6: of Lindsey Graham at Disney World, you can go to 762 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 6: TMZ and negotiate a fee for giving them that video 763 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 6: or that photograph. So I think that's really interesting what 764 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 6: TMZ is doing here and knocking both parties equally on this, because, 765 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 6: like you said, they were dogging on Bernie Sanders, that 766 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 6: rep from that was in Las Vegas. That was a Democrat. 767 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 6: So it's not just the Republicans that TMZ is trying 768 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 6: to shame and out here. 769 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 3: It's going to take a long time, though, I think, 770 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: to earn trust because they were so one sided for 771 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: so long and now they're trying to turn it into this, 772 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: but it's both parties. 773 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sorry. 774 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 6: I didn't when you give you the impression that I 775 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 6: trust them on anything at all. No, I was just 776 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 6: kind of analyzing how we got here with TMZ. 777 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 10: No, no, no. 778 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 6: Whenever you hear from something about TMZ, yeah, you got 779 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 6: a triple check it from three other sources because it 780 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 6: may be total bs. And yes, of course they're still 781 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 6: going to lean against the Republicans more than against the Democrats. 782 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 6: I just do find it interesting that this is kind 783 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 6: of the first time we've ever seen them really ever 784 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 6: call the Democrats out on anything. Ever, you're right gonna 785 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 6: take some more examples of that before I give them 786 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 6: any credit. 787 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 7: But it is a step in the right direction. 788 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 789 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a. 790 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: Cool idea and it sounds delicious, But would you pay 791 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: up to one hundred and forty dollars for chocolate when 792 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: you already have to buy groceries that are expensive. This 793 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: is just what's going on over at Costco. They're selling 794 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: a massive ten pound chocolate Easter Bunny this year, and 795 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: at some stores the price is up to one hundred 796 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: and forty dollars. Now, we were just there yesterday and 797 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: we saw it priced four half that. It was still 798 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: seventy dollars for ten pounds of chocolate. 799 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, would you do the math on that? That's only 800 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 6: seven bucks a pound. That's pretty it's a reasonable price 801 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 6: for chocolate. 802 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: When you eat the chocolate bunny, where do you start? 803 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 6: Ears? That the ears is the only acceptable answer. You 804 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 6: always start there when you need to get chocolate. 805 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: They're saying that this chocolate bunny is so big you 806 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: need a hammer to eat it. 807 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 2: No, just my mouth. Thanks, I'm good. Thank you, Jim, 808 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening. 809 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 7: This is ninety three w YBC.