WEBVTT - Tony Katz on The Difference Between President Trump and Vice President Vance 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.680 So what we have here is the story of he said, 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:12.760 he said, and he said, he said? Is Donald Trump 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.720 and JD. Vance? Now, nothing about to engage in is 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:21.240 going to surprise you at all. We are talking about 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.560 two men with two very different views of what the 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.960 job is. What are we talking about. We're talking about 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.920 Iran and in the job. It's a conversation, maybe to 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.240 a larger extent, of how they view America and America's 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.560 role in the world and their job regarding America. I 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.440 would say that if you were to ask both them 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.800 and pull both them, the president and the Vice president 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.320 of the United States, they would say that American safety 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:52.520 insecurity is job number one. President Trump understands that sometimes 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:57.080 American safety insecurity means handling it where it is. JD. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.440 Vance believes that American safety insecurity comes from I'm only 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.400 thinking about America and not paying attention to the rest. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.479 We don't have to get involved. Tony Katz Tony kats today, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.520 Good to be here, Good to be with You. Find 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.560 everything I do over at tonycats dot com, live streaming, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.160 YouTube and rumble Tony Kats. You have Twitter, which is 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.839 known as x Tony Kats and Facebook. Tony CAATs Radio. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.840 This was the story over there at ABC News. Trump 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:30.600 contradicts Vance says nukes, not oil prices number one priority 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:36.200 in Iran. Now, for those of us who have been 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.560 paying attention, man, you could have called that one one 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:48.640 hundred billion miles away. There is a difference between these 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:55.120 two men. There is a difference in philosophy. And I'll 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.880 start where I start, which is I don't think jd. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.800 Vance is a dumb guy, not at all. Jd Vance 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.520 approved that he was a capable guy in terms of 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.359 when he broke through. And he said to Martha Raddits, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.440 do you hear yourself? It was during the it was 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.520 during the run up, and he was still the candidate. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.760 He is a senator from from Ohio. And Martha Radditts 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.600 of ABC News is talking about trend de Aragua gang 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.360 members who had taken over apartment complexes in Colorado, and 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.280 she said, it's only a handful of apartment complexes and 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.680 jd Vance said, only a handful? Do you hear yourself, Martha? 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.800 And his voice kind of cracked a little bit because 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.919 it was the incredulousness, and it was okay, all right, 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.640 he's he's got this. He's he's handling this, there's no problem. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.880 And then we went to the Oval Office and Ukraine 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.920 and Vladimir Zelenski. You see, everybody else wants to remember 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.960 it for the dust up, remember it for Trump putting 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.280 Zelenski in his place. Well, Trump was right, I say 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.240 that now just like I said it then. But everyone 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:12.440 forgets how it happened. How it happened is that jd 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.840 Vance got way over his skis. And when the talking 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.359 was done, jd Vance, sitting on the side couch, decided 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.840 to jump in because he was going to talk about 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.880 how great the president is doing and say that they 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:32.480 were finally going to use diplomacy. Used diplomacy for what? 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:38.920 For thwarting Russian aggression? Is that right? You're gonna use diplomacy? 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.440 This was a fantasy of Jade Vance, of the vice president, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.600 a fantasy, and Vladimir's Lenski. I don't necessarily think it 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.760 was a great guy. I mean, he could have run 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:56.880 away when Ukraine was attacked and he didn't. There's got 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.160 to be some level of respect for that. He had 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.000 a poor job of asking for help. He just assumed 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.120 it would all come so quickly, and he acted impestuous 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.960 and he acted spoiled, and you know I deserve this. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.160 That's not the way the world works. It's not the 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.000 way anything works. That's leftism, horsecrap, and nobody wanted to 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.320 be around it or be a part of it. Even 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.719 Joe Biden had to say to him sometimes, would you 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.279 please be easier to deal with I'm giving you billions 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.479 of dollars and all this weaponry. Could you be a 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:34.560 little nice? And now that part was always legit, and 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.600 that's what Jady Vans tried to pivot to when it 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.800 was already too late, because jd Vance said, we're going 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:45.320 to use diplomacy, and there's Vladimir's Lenski saying, oh, blah blah. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.000 We signed this with Russia. They didn't listen to it. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.599 We signed that with Russia, they didn't listen to it. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.400 We agreed to this with Russia, they didn't listen to it. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.640 We'd wanted to do that with Russia. They didn't listen 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.640 to it. What diplomacy are you talking about. We've tried 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:04.080 all the diplomacy under the sun. What diplomacy are you 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:09.200 getting at? And that's when jd Vance, the Vice President, said, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.599 I don't appreciate you coming to the Oval Office and 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.640 arguing with us, have you at least said thank you? 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:23.000 And that's when Vladimir Zelenski, not perfect with the English, 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.640 started talking about your problem is you don't have a 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.720 rush to deal with. You've got a nice, big ocean. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.560 But soon you will see. And that's when President Trump 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.240 stepped and said, don't tell us, we'll see. Don't tell 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.280 we have the cards. We have all the cards, the 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.920 beautiful cards. They playing cards, my faces and all the cards. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.640 I'm the king and the Queen, I'm the jack. Oh. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.880 I really have a terrible impression of Trump. It's so 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.000 bad because it's not gritty enough. It's not gritty. I 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.320 think Shanon Gillis changed the idea of what a Trump 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.520 impression is. It's a little higher. But it's not that 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.080 I gotta I'll work on it. I swear I will. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:04.719 Trump was right. Vance is the guy who stepped in it. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.440 And that's when you first learned that JD. Vance is 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.560 a very different view of American policy. When JD. Vance 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.920 started talking about the idea that America is not the 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.960 idea America is the soil. Because his great grandparents were 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:29.039 buried in Appalachia, I never took that one well. Never 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.560 once did I take that one well. I never took 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.680 well that we had a Department of Homeland Security. Are 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.239 we people who think of homeland, land of the free, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.120 home of the brave number one? Since I put it 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:46.479 together as homeland, okay, home on I don't know. We're 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.880 the land and we're not the idea. We have land 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:56.880 that we should protect, but we are an idea. The 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:01.479 idea is what's powerful. The idea is what lights the world. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.880 The idea matters. I said, Okay, that is not where 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:14.120 I'm at. Then we have heard him when discussing Iran 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.280 and discussing this alleged deal in the MoU He said 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.760 it to Megan Kelly said it to others with this, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.280 it allows us to get out of there. As if 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.800 taking out the Iranian terrorist threat is somehow not worthy 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.400 and not worth our time, not our problem a Lah Tucker, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.200 Carlson and all the rest of that crowd. That is clearly, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.440 in my view wrong. I don't argue that we should 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.840 be fighting every war. I don't argue that we should 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.080 be writing every check. It's a terrorist organization that is 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:49.720 doing us harm. The end, what are we waiting for? You? 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.360 Want to buy into the idea that this is Israel's bidding. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:59.000 It's pathetic and it's sad, it's weak, and it's nonsense. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.880 None of what the Iranian regime wants to do has 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.040 anything to do with Israel. It has to do with 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.400 their wants. And if you think Iran is not a 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.120 threat to America, it's like you've never read a book. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:20.480 You don't understand their goals, their desires. It's weak, it 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.400 is pathetically ignorance, and we should say shame on those people. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.280 If you don't think Trump has gone about the war properly, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.200 we'll see that would be different. That would be different, right, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.360 because that's a policy conversation. I'm cool with that, kitten. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:39.319 That's a worthy discussion. If you want to argue that 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.480 we should not have gone into Iran, that could also 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.120 be a policy decision. If you want to argue Iran 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.200 is not a threat to the United States, that's laughable, ignorance, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.040 bull crap. There's the difference. I can handle all the 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.080 other stuff, but that first, that the idea never a 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.840 threat to us. It's just it's pathetic. It is pathetic. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:07.040 I say so. And where at any time now we 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.719 hear that about JD. Vance. Let's just get out of there. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:15.840 It's like, okay, different. Now, this the President coming out 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.480 on a social media post saying that the number one 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.120 goal is and always will be Iran not having a 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:28.040 nuclear weapon. But it was last week where jd Vance 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.319 said that the goal number one for the administration amid 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.720 the war was to quote keep oil and gas cheap 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.959 for Americans all over the country. And then obviously goal 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.840 number two is ensure that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.719 I feel confident we're accomplishing both of those goals. Now, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:51.280 one could argue that a it's a little it was 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.480 a little bump, it's a little thing. It's just the 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.160 way he said. He said the first one, first, he 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.560 said this one. This, it's all the same. I don't 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.319 believe it is all of the same. And we should 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.080 be clear that there is a divide here. This is 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.800 not new, This is not new. But I think this 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.480 divide is where the divide of the country is going 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:19.760 to come, not left right, right right. I said last 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:24.120 week that you know we're in we're in midterm season. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:28.480 Everybody knows this. Midterm elections have begun. Everything is is 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.520 focused on this. This is what the next two months 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.200 are thousand percent. This is what the next two months 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.520 are all about. Every focus is there, and certainly you'd 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.000 rather have lower oil prices to make it easier on 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:45.520 your candidates. On thousand percent. Can I also put something 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:53.320 else out into the ether? The post Trump America has begun. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.600 Trump fans may not want to hear it. You may 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:03.000 not want to hear it whereever you are on the spectrum, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:10.439 but it's here. The post Trump America has begun. Vance 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:16.199 very clearly, very obviously, is trying to figure out his 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.319 next moves as he runs for president of the United States. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.079 That is obvious. New York Post reporting that Rubio's outperforming 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.800 Vance in a twenty twenty eight matchup hypothetical. Vance, however, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.880 had a fundraiser with Donald Trump Junior and some people 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.000 who were the original funders of what was it? Tucker. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.840 They started on the left. They may still be on 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.560 the left for all I know. One hundred thousand dollars 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.800 a plate, unless you wanted the special meet and greet, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:48.960 it was two hundred fifty thousand dollars a plate. He's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:54.200 raising money and he has got Donald Trump Junior on 0:11:54.320 --> 0:12:00.560 his side. Hard Donald Trump Junior has lied, not lied. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.439 I'm sorry, don't read other things, Tony while you're doing 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:12.720 the show. That's foolhardy. Donald Trump Junior worked aggressively to 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.199 get jd Vance to be the vice president. He has 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:23.680 talked about this, braggs about this, brad about moving President 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.440 Trump into picking jd Vance. I say, as clear as day, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.560 jd Vance was never my guy. He was not the 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.240 guy I would have selected for vice president. The guy 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:39.079 I would have selected for vice president Sarah huckeby Sanders. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.760 I would have picked the governor of Arkansas ten thousand. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.000 If you want to talk about somebody who got through 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.240 the first term smelling like a rose, turned herself into 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:58.559 a player, and has capacity, Sarah huckeby Sanders. What should 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:07.120 we discuss this? Now we are in it and in 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:15.560 the post Trump world? The right versus right argument isn't 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:22.119 actually about Israel, and isn't even a specific conversation regarding 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:31.280 foreign policy. It is the idea of is America a 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:41.520 leader or is America America better leaving alone? Isolationist America 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:48.240 versus allied America. Now I say allied America. I do 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.280 not say entangled America, because I think that there are 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.840 a lot of places where a bunch of US we 0:13:54.920 --> 0:14:01.760 have crossover. I don't. I have no issue with taking 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.840 on the Iranian regime. I do have issue with the 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.160 idea of nation building. You know how much nation building 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:15.280 I want to do in the Gaza Strip? Zero less 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:20.760 than zero. Do I want to help thwart the Chinese 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.840 presence in African nations? Yes? Do. I absolutely want to 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.320 eliminate it in South America and Central America? You bet, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:37.960 you bet I do. What's the take from jd Vance 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.040 on that? Is jd Vance a Monroe doctrine, Guy Monroe doctrine. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:46.239 President Monroe was about limiting European influence in the Western hemisphere. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.160 Now we have to discuss it as a limiting of 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.680 Chinese influence in the Western hemisphere. And have we now 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.080 engaged the idea that we keep this hemisphere and they 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.960 have that hemisphere? We move the US S George Washington 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.440 out of theater. It's now in the Middle East. We're 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.240 leaving the US US Abraham Lincoln. We supposedly are going 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.560 to be replacing that carrier group in the Pacific. When 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.200 will be a question is it already there steaming its way? 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.960 Will it's a good question. Maybe we are already into 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:20.720 these things, and maybe this will appease the Vance types. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.000 But this divide between Trump and Vance, I don't think 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.440 it is just a little bit of a little hiccup thing. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.160 I think it is a real fundamental difference about not 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.280 caring whether or not Iran is a nuclear weapon. But 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.400 the people who say Iran was never getting a nuclear weapon, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:43.480 it's just it's so laughable. Just deal with the reality 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.280 of who they are, what they want, what they're doing. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.680 Dear Lord, they could be enriching uranium right now. I 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.600 don't know what's going on in Pickax Mountain, and neither 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:55.000 do you. I'm assuming America as a whole, our apparatus 0:15:55.040 --> 0:16:00.560 has an idea what's going on. But Trump advanced we're 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.240 talking about actual different visions for America, and Rubio and 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.360 Vance definitely are, and you and I might be. And 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.240 this is where we're at. This is where the right is. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:17.440 It starts now, it starts now. What's the vision for 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:24.440 America going forward? What's our vision of the world going forward? Yeah, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.240 got a lot more than midterms to contend with.