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Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartband and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to hour two of Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: Tony is out.

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Speaker 2: I am your guest host, your guide, your travel guide.

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Speaker 3: We push you into the weekend. We don't. I'm not

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Speaker 3: pushing you into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm gently guiding you into the weekend with my lovely, melodic,

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Speaker 2: not at all.

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Speaker 3: Annoying voice into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: You can just ask my family. They are not annoyed

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Speaker 2: by my voice at all. I think they find it soothing.

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Speaker 2: They love it when I'm talking at them. But I'm

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Speaker 2: going to talk at you today as we move into

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Speaker 2: the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'm Cura Davis. You can me on x.

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Speaker 2: At Real Kiara Davis, or go buy my book Drawing

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Speaker 2: Lines Why Conservatives must be in a battle fiercely in

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Speaker 2: the arena of ideas.

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Speaker 3: You have to go to Amazon for that. I'm sold out.

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Speaker 3: I sold out all my books. I went to an

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Speaker 3: event last week. I was the invited speaker to a

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Speaker 3: Ladies Republican.

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Speaker 2: Club in Torrance, in LA. And they were so what

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Speaker 2: a wonderful crowd. They were the South Bay Republican women.

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Speaker 2: They were a wonderful crowd, and they bought all my books.

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Speaker 2: I'm out, so I think that's a great advertisement. You

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Speaker 2: should go out there and buy that book too, but

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Speaker 2: you'll have to order online.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about jerrymandering, Voters Rights Act, and

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Speaker 2: just what the heck is going on at the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court and what this might mean for California Prop.

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Speaker 3: Fifty.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about that last hour, so I asked

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Speaker 2: my good friend to come in and break this all

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Speaker 2: down with us and for us. She's a lot smarter

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Speaker 2: the show. Please welcome to the show, Susie Moore. She's

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Speaker 2: the deputy managing editor of Breadstate dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: find her at at smoothie Q S M O O

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Speaker 2: s I E Q on X and Susie is a

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Speaker 2: lawyer out of Saint Louis and she's also a dog lover.

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Speaker 2: She volunteers at her dog shelter every week. She's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Susie, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I almost said good to see you, but I can only.

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Speaker 3: See you in my mind.

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Speaker 4: I just say I can see you, just find Hira.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: It's good to have you back, and it's great to

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Speaker 2: hear your voice, Susie.

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Speaker 3: I know you guys have read say have been.

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Speaker 2: Following along with what's going on here in California with

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Speaker 2: Prop fifty. Before before I ask you to break down

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Speaker 2: what's happening at Skotis. Give me a sense of what

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Speaker 2: this looks like to you outside of California. For me,

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Speaker 2: I was I was telling the listeners earlier. You know,

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Speaker 4: Well, from from where I stand here in the Midwest,

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Speaker 4: it just looks like, you know, partisan politicking on the

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Speaker 4: I don't know enough about the inner workings there in

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Speaker 5: Acceptance exception situation.

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Speaker 4: And I know that there has been a concerted effort

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Speaker 4: And I'm hoping that California's are successful with that. So

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Speaker 4: Or is it just going to be another episode of

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Speaker 3: Getting its way. But I'm telling yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling the listeners, look, Democrats cheat here all

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Speaker 2: And Gavin Newsom wouldn't have put this. He can't afford

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Speaker 3: But that's not the end of it.

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Speaker 2: This is why I want to bring you on because

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Speaker 3: Feet are sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I am out there every day talk about this measure

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you because if it passes,

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Speaker 2: where they were reviewing this case. It's Louisiana versus Colias.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's how you say it, and this is

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Speaker 2: the case. It could change the very nature of the

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Speaker 2: Voting Rights Act now, susy, And if you don't mind,

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Speaker 2: I might need to hold.

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Speaker 3: You over the break. Are you willing to stay longer

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Speaker 3: if you can?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 2: I can do that, okay, because I think we might

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Speaker 2: I'm five and explain to me how politicians or the

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to do my best.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you right now, this is something that

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Speaker 4: years ago, the rule was established that you can't racially jerrymander,

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Speaker 4: So the whole idea was to prevent that from happening,

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Speaker 4: and the Voting Rights Act is part and parcel of that.

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Speaker 4: But what's ended up happening from a practical standpoint is that.

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Speaker 5: Kind of the reverse has happened.

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Speaker 4: So in an effort to prevent racial discrimination from suppressing

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Speaker 4: this tension that they're risen between trying to avoid vote

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Speaker 4: for it. And I'm oversimplifying it by saying it that way,

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Speaker 4: but that's kind of what's a tension here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think the idea that I was reading

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Speaker 2: a great post from Mark Moser yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's a lawyer. He works for Harmony Hartmey.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Dylan Law, and he's here in California. He's also

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Speaker 2: running for Congress locally. But he had a great low breakdown.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things he says, it is like

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Speaker 2: it's almost like the abortion it sounds almost like the

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Speaker 3: Where they have created this right out of whole cloth.

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Speaker 2: It was a right, it was the voter. Just make

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Speaker 2: sure I'm understanding this, Suzie. The Voter Rights Act was

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Speaker 2: you know, maliciously redistricting.

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Speaker 3: But then the.

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Speaker 2: Court, a court found that it sort of it also

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Speaker 2: intimated that you can't that you have to aid in

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Speaker 3: And he had a really great way of putting it.

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Speaker 2: But the idea is that it was just to make

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Speaker 4: Numbers, right, And so it's like a well intended measure

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Speaker 4: you know, it also assumes, and you know, I'm going

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Speaker 4: it just assumes that if you belong to whatever group,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that, because this is

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Speaker 2: don't really have here or the redistrict being in general,

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Speaker 2: which is that we're talking about carving up all these maps.

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Speaker 2: But that still doesn't predict how the people are going

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Speaker 2: to vote. You're making assumptions, and a lot of people

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Speaker 5: They are absolutely so I'm going to hold you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm going to stop you right here, Susan,

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Speaker 2: because I want to hold you over the break, actually

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk to you about this particular

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Speaker 3: I have some questions for you.

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Speaker 2: So stick around, Susie if you don't mind, I appreciate it. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: we're going to break. Don't go anywhere. You're going to

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Speaker 2: want to hear Susie's breakdown after the break. She is

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Speaker 2: one of the smartest people I've ever met in my life,

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Speaker 2: and you'll be dumber if you don't hear her. All right,

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Speaker 2: I'm here, David's feeling it for Tony Kats and you're

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Speaker 2: listening to Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody to Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz Today. I'm your guest host, Kia Davis, filling in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz on this Friday, October seventeenth, day seventeen

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Speaker 2: of the government shut down. Children are starving in the

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Speaker 2: it's misery, but we're enjoying ourselves anyway. On Tony Kats Today,

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Speaker 2: I'm here with my good friend as Susie Moore. She's

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Speaker 2: the deputy managing editor at RedState dot Com, you confiner

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Speaker 2: at Smoothie q on X Susie, we want to move

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Speaker 2: to this case, Louisiana Versus Clias. I want to talk.

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Speaker 2: breakdown from Jennifer oliverall O'Connell over at Red State, your

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Speaker 4: How they navigate this because it's there's competing interests intention

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Speaker 3: Do we need this?

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Speaker 5: But anytime you look at a.

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel. I feel like that about most

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants that.

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Speaker 2: But I know it's true though there's so much stuff

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Speaker 2: And I was talking earlier, Susie, just about the massive

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Speaker 2: Keeps me employed, for sure, but it does also keep

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Speaker 3: In the game.

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Speaker 2: Susie, Before I let you go, tell everybody where they

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Speaker 3: Morning Minute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, the easiest place to find me if you're looking

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Speaker 3: I saw it today. I did appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And you can find Susie on X at smoozie q

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Speaker 2: and definitely go follow her over there.

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Speaker 3: She's actually Susie. I have to say.

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Speaker 2: I always love your legal breakdowns and your leak of

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much. That is high praise.

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Speaker 2: All right, Susie, Uh, you go. You got to get

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Susie Moore from Red State.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, I want to just piggyback before we go to

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Speaker 3: Going to lose and lose and lose and lose and lose,

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Speaker 3: All those loses.

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Speaker 2: A man, I've been doing this fifteen years and I

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Speaker 3: All right, don't go anywhere, We'll be back with much more.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Katz And this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's Frye everybody, Welcome back to Tony Kats Today. I'm

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Speaker 2: filling in for Tony. I'm Kira Davis. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for spending a little time with me today. I was

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Speaker 2: just trolling, patrolling or trolling X, and I came across

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Speaker 2: this story. Do you guys watch the Victoria Secret Show?

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Speaker 2: Remember the run you know, the Runway model show.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: I also wanted to say I did get a nice

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Speaker 2: message from Big John Big John nineteen thirty three on X.

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Speaker 2: He said, Kira, it's good to hear you on TK today.

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Speaker 2: Driving back to Indianapolis, listening to you all the way back,

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Speaker 2: have a great day. God bless You've got bless you too,

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Speaker 2: Big John. Thank you drive safely out there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: as I was saying the Victoria's Secret Passion Show, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got a million pictures in your mind

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Speaker 3: What it is? It's come back. They me too. Tried

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Speaker 2: The body Positive Victoria Secret Show, which listen, I've been up,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not into body shaming, but I

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Speaker 2: am into marketing. And I know as a woman, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to see a woman on the runway who

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Speaker 2: to look in lingerie.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the lie you're selling me that if I

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Speaker 3: So I'll have to say.

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Speaker 2: Victoria's Secret had their fashion show and they put a

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Speaker 2: a guy. His name is Alex Consani. I just retweeted

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Speaker 2: it out on exits at Real Curate Davis.

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Speaker 3: Alex Casani.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking at a picture of him and he's

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Speaker 2: these satin pants. They're not it's not a bikini bottom,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for lingerie, and not to get too blue

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Speaker 2: angles and the cuts of my body. I don't need

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00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: to be too graphic about it, but you all get it.

443
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: We're all working with different equipment and so our undergarments

444
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: feel and fit differently. No matter what weight you are,

445
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: it just depends on your gender. So no, I don't

446
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: want to see a guy walking down the runway modeling

447
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Speaker 2: my lingerie.

448
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Speaker 3: But more than that, this is sick.

449
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Speaker 5: This.

450
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Speaker 3: I feel like this fits.

451
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Speaker 2: Into what I've been talking about this whole episode, which

452
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Speaker 2: is that we're going to have to have some uncomfortable

453
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Speaker 2: conversations where we got to reset the culture here. We've

454
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Speaker 2: gone way too far and is dangerous. It's very dangerous

455
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: to have this gentleman. You can't see him, but if

456
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: you look him up, it's very dangerous to be putting

457
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: this gentleman out there as a model. How many years

458
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: did we go through liberal feminist friends at your behest,

459
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: how many years did we go through of pushing this

460
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: body positivity movement because the girls are too skinny. It's

461
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 2: wrong that we make girls look at these models and

462
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 2: they're so skinny because they never eat and they live

463
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: on cigarettes and vodka. And then we put that up

464
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Speaker 2: as a standard of beauty and we're making them you know,

465
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Speaker 2: bleem ink and antirect sic and it's bad for the girls.

466
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Speaker 2: That's how we got the body positivity movement brought to

467
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Speaker 2: you by the liberals. So now the liberals want to

468
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Speaker 2: put one hundred and ten pound male who has no curves,

469
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Speaker 2: like he literally is built without curves. Right, he doesn't

470
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Speaker 2: have hips, he doesn't have breasts, he doesn't have a

471
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Speaker 2: defined waist, he doesn't have the things that make a

472
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Speaker 2: woman attractive, particularly in lingerie.

473
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Speaker 3: And he's the only This is.

474
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Speaker 2: Difficult for transquote models quote trans models as well. The

475
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: only way for them to look particularly feminine is to

476
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: be super super skinny, so that they can mock the

477
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: look of a super skinny woman. Right, We'll look at

478
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: a super skinny woman and we'll be like, oh, okay,

479
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: she doesn't have like, you know, very healthy chest or

480
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: what every chest, but she's skinny, so we would expect that,

481
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: and so you have to get the super skinny. So anyways,

482
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Speaker 2: not only am I now you Victoria's secret. Now you're

483
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: putting up a skinny model that my daughter most certainly

484
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: can never emulate and is giving her mixed signals about

485
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: what her body's supposed to look like as a young woman.

486
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Speaker 2: You're literally giving her an impossible standard. She can never

487
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Speaker 2: look like that, the same way this man can never

488
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: look like her because she's a woman and he's a man.

489
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: And we have to call it out.

490
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Speaker 1: We do.

491
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Speaker 2: We need to talk about it. We have to call

492
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Speaker 2: it out. We have to shame these people for this.

493
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: It's not okay, and it's not a little one off,

494
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: and it's not like, oh well, we're just listen. Somebody

495
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: posted this in response Margaret Mary Margaret Olahan. She says,

496
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Speaker 2: this is a twenty two year old guy whose parents

497
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: have been encouraging him to identify as trans since four

498
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: and sending him to a trans summer camp, putting him

499
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Speaker 2: through trans hormones, and signing him with a trans modeling

500
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Speaker 2: agency at thirteen.

501
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Speaker 3: They've been grooming this boy since he was four.

502
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Speaker 2: At thirteen, and now they have him in front of

503
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Speaker 2: the world to influence.

504
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Speaker 3: To recruit your kids. That's what this is.

505
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: It's recruitment. The enemy cannot create. They can only recruit.

506
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: These people can't make children. It's physically impossible. They can

507
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: recruit your kids. So don't think that this, Oh these

508
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: are awful parents, and oh I'm glad I'm not like

509
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: that parent.

510
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: No, they're the soldiers.

511
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: They're the foot soldiers, and they're doing their job and

512
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: they have put out a soldier on the front line.

513
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: That's this guy at the Victoria's Secret Fashion show. So

514
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: you absolutely should where you see it, shame it. Share

515
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: it to your Facebook, share it to your personal feed,

516
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: even if you think it's going to make someone angry,

517
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: share it and shame it. These people should feel embarrassed,

518
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: they should feel ashamed, and we should no longer sit

519
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: back and say, well, I don't want to cause any

520
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: problems and I don't want to hurt any feelings, hurt

521
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 2: all the feelings. This is dangerous and it is killing

522
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Speaker 2: our country.

523
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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. I'm Curre Davis.

524
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Speaker 2: I'm filling it for Tony Cats and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz today.

526
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Speaker 2: It is Friday, October seventeenth, day seventeen of the government shutdown.

527
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: I was just perusing X in the break and came

528
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: across this post. So as you guys know, I can't

529
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Speaker 2: remember now if I mentioned it at the top of

530
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Speaker 2: the show, but US Attorney General. He's Acting Attorney General

531
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Speaker 2: Bill as Sale, who was in our Assembly here in

532
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: California until very recently, and then Trump plucked him out

533
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: and made him the USAG for whatever the Western District

534
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: or wherever we are. I'm bad at this anyway you

535
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: get it.

536
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: He's an AG for the DOJ.

537
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Here's all your acronyms here in CAA, and he's Bill's

538
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: been in it right, He's been in the muck and

539
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: the meyer. He's a Republican of California politics, and he's

540
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: been one of the lone voices in our legislature forever.

541
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Speaker 3: So he knows exactly where to go.

542
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: He knows exactly who to go after, which is I

543
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: think is a reason why Trump is appointing so many

544
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: people like Bill to the DOJ. Our Meat Dylan is there,

545
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: I mean he's got a whole California contingent there actually,

546
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: and they're doing good work. So one of the things

547
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: he announced yesterday was that they are launching prosecutions against

548
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Speaker 2: people who have defrauded the state and the state of

549
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Speaker 2: California and the federal and by extension, the federal government

550
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: in homeless fraud, in homeless funding. Okay, So, biggest criticism

551
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: I get as a Californian from people outside, both on

552
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: the left and the right, is why can't you guys

553
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: deal with your homeless problem.

554
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: You guys are so cruel.

555
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: You guys just walk by this stuff every day, You

556
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: see it every day and you look away.

557
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: You don't do anything. No, that's not true. That's not

558
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Speaker 3: how we are.

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Speaker 2: Californians are actually extremely generous with their homeless funding. Extremely

560
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: There isn't a tax or a measure that comes to

561
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: ballot that we don't pass.

562
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Speaker 3: Both locally and statewide. We're in the hundreds of billions.

563
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: We're in the hundreds of billions in a ten year period,

564
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Speaker 2: and we have nothing to show for it but increased

565
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: homeless rates and up to twenty deaths a day on

566
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Speaker 2: the streets of Los Angeles alone.

567
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: So it's a big mess. And Bill A.

568
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Saley had said, no, we're coming after these people because

569
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: it's an industry. We can't fix it. Because it's an industry.

570
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: All it is is money. It's it's just a money

571
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: laundering industry. None of the money.

572
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: If you give.

573
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Speaker 2: Think about whatever shelter is in your community that you like.

574
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: It's a shelter, or it's a homeless a homeless center,

575
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: or something that serves the poor people of your community.

576
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: Think about that right now. Picture it in your mind.

577
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Everybody's got something someplace that you really like and you

578
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: love for them to do the good work. Okay, now

579
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: picture that I said, I'm going to give this organization

580
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: twenty billion dollars, twenty billion dollars and they can do

581
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: whatever they want for the community with this twenty billion dollars.

582
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Speaker 3: What do you think that organization could do? What would

583
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: they do? How do you think they could change the

584
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: lives of the people in your community? Right now?

585
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: Double it and triple it and quadruple it, and ask yourself,

586
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: how could you eliminate those problems with that type of money?

587
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: Right there's no excuse for it.

588
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: The Left keeps telling us we just need more money,

589
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: and we give them more money and they don't do

590
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Speaker 2: anything with it. And I think it's time that we

591
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: all just stop pretending that this is how it goes.

592
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't go this way, and it doesn't have to

593
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: go this way. But you obviously need leaders who are

594
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: ready and willing to do the work of holding criminals accountable.

595
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: That's the other piece, right, It's not good enough for

596
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Speaker 2: me to talk about it.

597
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: We need leaders.

598
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Speaker 2: So Bill a Sale is doing that. But this is

599
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: the reason why I brought this up. So some guy

600
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Speaker 2: tweeted out his story after he saw that Bill a

601
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Speaker 2: Sale was prosecuting. He's prosecuting.

602
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: Cody Holmes.

603
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Speaker 2: He's an ex CFO of Shankra Law Industries. And when

604
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I read this tweets you, you're going to think, oh,

605
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: what an apropos name Shankra Law Industries for allegedly siphoning

606
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: millions from the homeless housing funding for personal use. Okay,

607
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: So this man named Jonah. His handle on x is

608
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: JVB underscore XYZ. I think I just retweeted, Yeah, I

609
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: just read. We retweeted it into my timeline. He posted this,

610
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: he said, this is me. He just went down the

611
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: laundry list of his experience. Excuse me, he says, landlord

612
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: in La.

613
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: It's talking about himself. Landlord in La. Rent house in the.

614
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Hills, Hollywood Hills, which is a very pricey exclusive neighborhood

615
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: to twenty five year old CFO of a quote real

616
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: estate company. He arrives in a lime green Bentley with

617
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: influencer girlfriend and emotional support micro poodle, stops paying rent.

618
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: Email me a pdf from the county website saying COVID

619
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: related income loss. Nothing I can do because La. No,

620
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: he says, nothing I can do because LA equals anarchy.

621
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: NonStop eyes, wide shut parties at my house, dog melts

622
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: my hardwood floors with atomic diarrhea, claims poverty on paper,

623
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: while bottle servicing magnums of ace in my pool. Private

624
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: jets to Paris, to Loom, Miami, Vegas, girlfriend showers with diamonds,

625
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: bricken bags, red carpet, chopper, to Tella, everything posted on Instagram,

626
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: lesser be any doubt. Eventually moves out, I celebrate prematurely,

627
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: sues me for eight figures the next morning, just to

628
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: f with me.

629
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Speaker 3: Two year legal war. Then he vanishes. Today the DOJ indicts.

630
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Speaker 2: Him for stealing one hundred and thirty million dollars from

631
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Speaker 2: California's homeless fund.

632
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Speaker 3: May justice be served.

633
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: That's what we're up against here, That's what we have

634
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: to clean out.

635
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: This is the landscape in California.

636
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: All these politicians talking about housing crisis, housing crisis, Well,

637
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: the people who have homes to rent don't want to

638
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: rent them because if you get a bad renter, you're screwed.

639
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: You're up a creek, you have no protection. So it's

640
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: better for a lot of cases to keep your house.

641
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: Either reserve your house for private use, or put it

642
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: on the airbnb market, which comes with its own problems

643
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: for every given community.

644
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: We're just up against it.

645
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: And I do think that California is at a breaking point.

646
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: I do, I do, And a lot of you don't

647
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: listen for California politics, but you know, maybe this is

648
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: a this is a little window for you on this

649
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: rare day where you get to have a California voice

650
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: on the air.

651
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: But I.

652
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: Have said it before, and I've been wrong.

653
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: All Right, take it for what it's I do think

654
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: we're at the breaking point here. I think this is

655
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: the series of unfortunate events, given what the DOJ is

656
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: doing now, given that this house of cards is coming.

657
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: Down, and I want you to know.

658
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Speaker 2: This is why Gavin is fighting so hard. This is

659
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Speaker 2: why they're fighting so hard. They are losing. This is

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Speaker 2: the last stand. California is the last stand where the

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Speaker 2: jewel and this is why they don't want This is

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Speaker 2: why they don't want.

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Speaker 3: Voter id everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is why they are fighting this Jerrymannering stuff tooth

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Speaker 2: and nail, and it's why they fought so hard for

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Supreme Court that the Left actually tried to

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Speaker 2: kill a couple of Supreme Court justices. It's their last stand.

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Speaker 2: I need you to know how desperate they are. And

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Speaker 2: I think in the clip I played for you from CNN,

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Speaker 2: that is a word that one of their analysts use.

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Speaker 2: She said desperate, desperation. Now she was using it in

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Speaker 2: difference to J. D. Banns and the Trump administration. She said,

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Speaker 2: they're desperate to evoke the Insurrection Insurrection Act. But you

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Speaker 2: need to know that everything these people say and do

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Speaker 2: is projection. If she's using the word desperate, it's because.

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Speaker 3: They are desperate and that makes them dangerous.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We'll talk more about this on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the break, and I'll play you a clip,

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Speaker 2: but why AOC things?

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Speaker 3: Republicans are winning men. It's a great one.

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Speaker 2: I'm Cura Davis sitting up for Tony Kats and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today