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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of truth to that.

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Speaker 1: It's the analogy I always give Eddie. We all know

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Speaker 1: What's Anthony Richardson?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They started their camp or whatever they call it.

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Speaker 1: Camp or whatever they call it.

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Speaker 1: What are they like sitting around making some'mores? Is that

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Speaker 1: Did you go to camp as a kid? I did not,

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Speaker 1: never once. No no baseball camp, nothing, no basketball camp, no,

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Speaker 1: Okay no like gnaw bone nothing. No, Okay, did you

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Speaker 1: in a tent? I did camp out ones where Raccoon Lake?

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Speaker 1: Okay as a kid?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough?

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Speaker 1: So I you you know, I'm curious about Purdue as well.

438
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Speaker 1: In Dave's thoughts on Purdue and the Big Ten, one

439
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Speaker 1: of the questions I want to talk to Dave Rebson

440
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Speaker 1: about when we have him from the Big Ten network is,

441
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Speaker 1: you know, we know obviously Ohio State. I think Oregon's

442
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Speaker 1: going to be really good. Penn State, you know, Penn

443
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Speaker 1: State is always going to be right there. But Penn

444
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Speaker 1: State doesn't it typically feel like Penn State every year.

445
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Speaker 1: If I was a Penn State beat writer, I would

446
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Speaker 1: every year. I would just have a boilerplate column written

447
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Speaker 1: already that says number five rated. Penn State was leading

448
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State mid third quarter in the battle for Big

449
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Speaker 1: Ten supremacy when Ohio State went on a seventeen nothing

450
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Speaker 1: run in the last twelve minutes of the game to

451
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Speaker 1: hand the Nitney Lions their first loss of the year

452
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Speaker 1: and then just submit it by the boom. But the

453
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Speaker 1: Bank it's the same thing every year, every year, without fail.

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Speaker 1: I get super excited because I don't like Ohio State,

455
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Speaker 1: and every year without fail, I literally I'm like, Okay,

456
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be Thank goodness, somebody's gonna knock out

457
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Speaker 1: Ohio State.

458
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Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be Penn State.

459
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Speaker 1: And they tease me every year, and I get super

460
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Speaker 1: excited because I go out and do whatever, and it's

461
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Speaker 1: a primetime game and I get home and it's ten

462
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Speaker 1: o'clock and I turn on the TV. I'm like, yes, yes,

463
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Speaker 1: Penn State is up twenty to seven in the third quarter.

464
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Speaker 2: Pulling them all five. Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And then they end up losing twenty eight twenty Like

466
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: every year this happens. But I'm curious in the Big

467
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Speaker 1: Ten what other program it is that Dave Revsen or

468
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Speaker 1: that those that are really kind of analyzing these camps

469
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Speaker 1: are looking at saying that's a team that could be

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Speaker 1: this year's Indiana. You know, Michigan State was really down Nebraska.

471
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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for. To Nebraska is to college football

472
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Speaker 1: what Anthony Richardson is to the colts. Like you keep saying, well,

473
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Speaker 1: we know it's there all the ingredients are there, it's

474
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Speaker 1: just a matter of finding consistency.

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Speaker 2: What about Wisconsin, that's another one.

476
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's interesting because it's obviously a very good program. But

477
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Speaker 1: aren't they another one that every time it really comes

478
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Speaker 1: down to the brass tacks, Wisconsin stubs their own toe.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, I mean new head coach Luke Fickle second

480
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Speaker 2: year or going into his third year, I should say.

481
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Speaker 1: And remember when, I mean when they got him, that

482
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Speaker 1: was a huge coup. And he's a darn good coach.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Minnesota. Is Minnesota going to be good?

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Speaker 2: USC? Are they going to be good?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: USC, you would have I mean, there is no reason

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Speaker 1: for USC to have more than like two dry years, right,

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, just based on recruiting cycles alone. USC, you

489
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Speaker 1: would have to assume. That's the other thing, Eddie, when

490
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Speaker 1: you mentioned you, you know, I'm still thinking and I listen,

491
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Speaker 1: guilty is charged here. And I love the fact that Washington, Oregon, UCLA,

492
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Speaker 1: and USC are in the big ten. I mean, it's

493
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Speaker 1: a logistical nightmare. It makes no sense, it's probably not

494
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Speaker 1: cost feasible. It's a little bit absurd. It's totally weird

495
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Speaker 1: sounding and feeling to this day, but I do love it,

496
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Speaker 1: but it still is taking a while for me to

497
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Speaker 1: get used to it. When you mentioned that, I'm like,

498
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Speaker 1: what USC, I still think of the Big ten? I

499
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Speaker 1: mean literally it three years ago. I finally automatically was

500
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Speaker 1: thinking like Maryland, Penn State, Nebraska, right, and then boom

501
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Speaker 1: you throw those and I'm like, wait, wait a minute, now,

502
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Speaker 1: I also saw yesterday. Did you see this? The I

503
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: heard this now now I might have been maybe I

504
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: slept this, Maybe I like dreamt this. Did I hear that?

505
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Speaker 1: North Carolina now is apparently still holding onto an offer

506
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Speaker 1: from the SEC.

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Speaker 2: You did not dream that?

508
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: That is correct, But the problem is you have that

509
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: bylaw letter with the you know, the charter letter membership

510
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: for the ACC that is apparently the most binding thing

511
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Speaker 1: ever in North Carolina. I think Clemson is very interesting

512
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Speaker 1: to see what happens with that, because if Clemson and

513
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Speaker 1: North Carolina both leave the ACC, and Clemson has flirted

514
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Speaker 1: with that as well, if they both leave the ACC,

515
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Speaker 1: then you know, then you're in real trouble.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's more of like a win.

517
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Speaker 1: Not if I would I would agree with that. Although

518
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Speaker 1: that I'm telling you that that contract or that deed

519
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Speaker 1: that was signed or that they're a part of is

520
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: seemingly pretty ironclad. So you know, that's that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, California and isn't SMU in the ACC now,

522
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? And then I

523
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Speaker 1: always feel bad for Oregon State because Oregon State in

524
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Washington State, which are two decent athletic programs, were completely

525
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Speaker 1: left out on the cold. They were completely asleep at

526
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Speaker 1: the wheel. And now Oregon State's like trying to, you know,

527
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Speaker 1: pump up season tickets, like come see our rivalry with

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Speaker 1: San Jose State.

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Speaker 2: What, okay, sure, come watch us play Washington State four times?

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Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, exactly. But I'm curious what we should

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Speaker 1: predict it now if I ask, if I ask Dave Revson,

532
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Speaker 1: who is going to be who has the best potential

533
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Speaker 1: to be this year's Indiana out of the Big ten?

534
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Speaker 1: And by that I mean a team that is not

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Speaker 1: forecasted to be at the top of the conference, that

536
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Speaker 1: could come kind of out of nowhere and based on

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Speaker 1: their schedule and other such breaks fall the way of

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Speaker 1: things really going well. For like Washington's expected to be

539
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Who's he gonna say, I'll predict. I got

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Speaker 1: a prediction too, Okay, who is your prediction? Ucla? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's good.

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Speaker 2: They got Niko Ayamaya Lava.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, and that's another one. Eddie that but UCLA.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like UCLA? I'm USI supposed to be good, right,

545
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Speaker 1: But that's a good pick. I'll say that he's going

546
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Speaker 1: to say Minnesota. But we'll find out when he joins

547
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Speaker 1: us from the Big Ten Network and he does it next.

548
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: It is upon us college football in terms of in

549
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Speaker 1: particular teams getting underway with It's crazy to think, you know,

550
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Speaker 1: kids back at school before August and now obviously the

551
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Speaker 1: Colt in training camp. Day off today for the Colts.

552
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Speaker 1: By the way, Joela ericson at about twenty but joining

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Speaker 1: us now on the program. He is, of course with

554
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network to preview the conference. Our friend

555
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Speaker 1: Dave Rebsen joins us. Dave, how are you?

556
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Speaker 5: I couldn't be fine? Or Jake.

557
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Speaker 6: We embarked tomorrow on our preseason camp tour line to Lincoln, Nebraska.

558
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: We'll see the hot Ters on Friday and then we're

559
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Speaker 6: off and running. It's pretty amazing to think it's upon us.

560
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Speaker 6: It's always an exciting time.

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Speaker 1: It is and then but you know before you know it,

562
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Speaker 1: And this is what is fun, Dave. I love like

563
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Speaker 1: those those early fall Saturday night under the lights games

564
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Speaker 1: where it's just starting to get crisp in the air

565
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Speaker 1: and you see these big matchups right separation Saturday and

566
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Speaker 1: et cetera. So let's start with this. Eddie and I

567
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Speaker 1: were just talking about it. We each predicted who you

568
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Speaker 1: may say for your answer, Okay, this year's And I

569
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Speaker 1: know that you haven't gone to camp and seen a

570
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Speaker 1: lot of these teams yet, so I understand that. But

571
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Speaker 1: when you look at scheduling and other such things, the

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Speaker 1: team that could be this year's Indiana, and by that

573
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't mean one that is starting out

574
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Speaker 1: ranked in the top twenty five per se, but one

575
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Speaker 1: that just you kind of have your eye on it

576
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Speaker 1: and you're curious to get to their camp because you

577
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Speaker 1: think things may come together for this team, despite people

578
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Speaker 1: not necessarily talking about them at this point. Who jumps

579
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Speaker 1: out at you as the potential of that squad?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean people are talking about Illinois, so maybe

581
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Speaker 6: that's not a fair one.

582
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Speaker 5: I feel like they won.

583
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Speaker 6: Ten games a year ago, and you know, maybe they

584
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: can be a team that makes the playoffs this year,

585
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Speaker 6: but it feels like the way that you set that up,

586
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: Illinois maybe isn't an acceptable response. So I guess if

587
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Speaker 6: not them, I might say Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little concerned about that.

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Speaker 1: That was my prediction, Dave. I predicted you were going

590
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Speaker 1: to go with Minnesota. I love it. And we did

591
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Speaker 1: not discuss this ahead of time.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Okay, all right, well no we did not.

593
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Speaker 6: That makes me feel good because you know, kay, and

594
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Speaker 6: it means it must be bordering on the truth.

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just I'm concerned about quarterback. I mean, I've just

597
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 6: never seen Drake Lindsay play other than him practice last year.

598
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: And he's a big kid with a nice arm, but

599
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 6: I mean he's not a five star recruit. It's not

600
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Speaker 6: Bryce Underwood coming in. But other than that, I just

601
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: feel like they've got a lot of really good answers.

602
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: They'll be really good on defense. They were elite on

603
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Speaker 6: defense last year. They did lose their DC.

604
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Speaker 5: Corey Heatherman.

605
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Speaker 6: He went to Miami, but I know Danny Collins has

606
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Speaker 6: been with PJ. Fleck for a long time to need DC,

607
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: And I was talking to PJ and Las Vegas, and

608
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 6: he's really excited about him and doesn't think they'll miss

609
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Speaker 6: a beat there. I think their offensive line will be good.

610
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Speaker 6: It really struggled last year, but I think they upgraded

611
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 6: some in the portal. They have a really good running back.

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Speaker 6: I just think there are a lot of pieces in.

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Speaker 5: Place for them. I wouldn't predict they're going to make

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Speaker 5: the playoff, Like I don't think they're going to have

615
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Speaker 5: the year that Indiana had.

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Speaker 3: A year ago.

617
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Speaker 5: But if we're talking about a team that people.

618
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Speaker 6: Aren't talking about, and again I think that excludes Illinois.

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Speaker 6: I think to a certain extent that excludes to Iowa.

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Speaker 5: I mean I would say Iowa is a team that

621
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Speaker 5: they could rise up.

622
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Speaker 6: But again, I feel like they may show up in

623
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Speaker 6: some preseason top twenty fives. You know, I'm not sure

624
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Speaker 6: I'm buying Nebraska.

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Speaker 5: I'd go Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's such a loaded league, Dave, You know what

627
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Speaker 1: I mean. When you look at it, you just you

628
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: can make a case really for about everybody, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously excluding Purdue. And we'll get to that

630
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Speaker 1: in a second. But I want to focus on Kurt Signette.

631
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Speaker 1: Dave Revson Big ten Network is our guest. A year ago,

632
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was was making waves with you know, we've

633
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Speaker 1: talked about it obviously, the uber confidence, the famous quotes,

634
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Speaker 1: the preseason stuff, and he backed it up. And I

635
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: found it interesting that when he came out and was

636
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Speaker 1: talking about scheduling as you know, as if you were

637
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Speaker 1: an SEC school and you know, the breaking the contract

638
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: with Virginia Dave. From an Indiana standpoint, it seemed as

639
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: though Kurt Signetti all of a sudden has elevated himself

640
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: into a coach that the rest of the Big Ten

641
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of backed up now what he was saying, and

642
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Speaker 1: that he was like this spokesperson for other coaches who

643
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: then came out and said, yeah, he's right, and we

644
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Speaker 1: agree with that. That's the Indiana perspective. Is that an

645
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: accurate assessment or is he still seen by other coaches

646
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: as this bravada that is kind of eyebrow raising.

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Speaker 6: I can't speak to how other coaches see him. I mean,

648
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Speaker 6: I just don't know. I haven't asked them how they

649
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Speaker 6: view him.

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: I look what, I'd rather see Indiana play Virginia than

651
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Speaker 5: some of these games that they're scheduling.

652
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Speaker 6: I would, But I also think that in life, you

653
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Speaker 6: do what you're incentivized to do, and I just don't

654
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 6: think there's incentive to play these top level non conference games.

655
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 6: And again, I think this is why the Big Ten

656
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: is advocating for four guaranteed spots in the playoff for

657
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 6: them and for.

658
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Speaker 5: The SEC, because they've been the best leagues.

659
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think if you go through here in

660
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 6: recent years, the most elite teams, it's those two leagues.

661
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Speaker 6: But also from the Big Ten's point of view, you know,

662
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 6: they look at versus the SEC, and SEC is only

663
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: playing eight conference games and no one penalizes them for that.

664
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Speaker 6: The Big Ten when you play nine, and again, the

665
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: math is you're.

666
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 5: Guaranteed that half your league's going to lose one more game.

667
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Speaker 5: And so if we're.

668
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Speaker 6: Leaving all us in the hands of the committee and

669
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: they're looking at one loss record above and beyond everything,

670
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Speaker 6: I understand kind of the notion of well, we're not

671
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Speaker 6: going to schedule the potential for another loss. We already

672
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: are playing one more conference game than our top rival

673
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 6: league is. So you know what the coaches think of it,

674
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Speaker 6: I don't know, but I understand where where Big Ten

675
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 6: teams are coming from.

676
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Speaker 5: Its terms of scheduling.

677
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Speaker 6: I mean again, I just think like until the committee

678
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Speaker 6: shows us that they're going to go deep and you

679
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 6: know they're going to pick up whatever it is, a

680
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: three loss team over a one loss team, or or

681
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 6: a three loss team over two loss team, or whatever

682
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 6: it is, they just haven't really done that. And so

683
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Speaker 6: I think, like your goal is just to minimize your

684
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 6: number of losses, and part of the way to do

685
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 6: that is to schedule is easy and non conference late

686
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Speaker 6: as you can.

687
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting for Indiana and Kurt Signetti's offense now, Dave,

688
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to say this because they got such good

689
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Speaker 1: play last year at the quarterback position. So I mean,

690
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: it is no slight, but they might have even upgraded.

691
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm a mate. You know, Mendoza coming from California has

692
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: not only experience, but I think there seemingly is a

693
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Speaker 1: lot of intrigue about him being a literally a top

694
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: level first round level pick at that position. Your intrigue

695
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: level about Mendoza and just about Indiana offensively this year

696
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: trying to maintain what they were able to do a

697
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: year ago.

698
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Speaker 6: It's really high, Jake, And I'll tell you I think

699
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Speaker 6: I maybe even I can't recall whether we talk about this.

700
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Speaker 5: So, like Curtis Rourke had a terrible.

701
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: Day when we were practice last year, and that's why

702
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: we always kind of say, hey, we're parachuting.

703
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 5: In it's one day.

704
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Speaker 6: You don't know whether it's representative.

705
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: And everyone there was telling us, now.

706
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Speaker 6: He has had a great camp, and we think he's

707
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 6: going to be really good. I mean, Tavin Jackson had

708
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 6: a way better day than Curtis Rourke and everyone kept

709
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 6: telling us this was his worst day by far.

710
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Speaker 5: He's going to be really good. So, I mean, I'm

711
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 5: excited to see Fernando Mendoza.

712
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Speaker 6: But again, I didn't come out camp last year thinking like,

713
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Speaker 6: oh my goodness, Curtis Rourke, they've really got this thing

714
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 6: figured out. But looking at tape for Nanda Mendoza, I

715
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 6: certainly understand why people are excited about him. I mean,

716
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 6: he certainly has the size and the physical tools. In

717
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 6: all of that, you know, the offensive line's got to

718
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: be better for him and Indiana than it was at CAL.

719
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Speaker 6: I mean, that was really the challenge for him, and

720
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Speaker 6: I think part of the reason that he was kind

721
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Speaker 6: of middle of the pack in the acc and passing efficiency.

722
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Speaker 6: But it's easy to look at the tape and the

723
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: highlights of him from call and to see why people

724
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 6: are excited. But I would just say, I mean, what

725
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: Curtis Rourke did last year was pretty amazing, and to

726
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Speaker 6: do it with an injury, as we later learned it was,

727
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 6: it was a remarkable year. And so yeah, I don't

728
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: want to slight that at all.

729
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: I mean, is it an upgrade.

730
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Speaker 6: It'd be hard to be much better than Curtis Rourke

731
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: was last year. But if they're just the same at quarterback,

732
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Speaker 6: if they're just as good, that would be a really

733
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 6: enviable spot because they were one of the elite quarterback

734
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: teams in the country a year ago.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Dave, do you really actually parachute in?

736
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Speaker 1: Is that a tandem jump or are you a solo guy?

737
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 5: Yeah?

738
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Speaker 6: Donardo likes to parachute in. He wants to get up

739
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Speaker 6: into a plane.

740
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Speaker 5: Is this big thing? I mean? And I just kind

741
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: of through the years and been like, all right, we'll

742
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: parachute in.

743
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're usually you know, we try to land at midfield.

744
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 5: We've had the Blue Angels a couple of times. I mean,

745
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: it's it's a pretty big production.

746
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Speaker 2: And that takes some practice. Too, which is impressive, right,

747
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: it does.

748
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: But again, I mean that's what the off seasons for

749
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 5: Jake like. We're not just sitting around resting on our laurels.

750
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 5: We're trying to figure out how we can get better.

751
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 6: And part of that is you make sure you hit

752
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Speaker 6: the fifty every time and.

753
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Speaker 1: At Paris Island for the entire offseason, getting getting things

754
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: right exactly. Hey, David, your thoughts on you know, obviously

755
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: it Purdue. This is a complete rebuild and I'm fascinated

756
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: by Barry Odom in terms of I think if you

757
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: really do look and I mean, you know, how much

758
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: do we really follow UNLV football? Right, But if you

759
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: look at his team there and you go back and

760
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: look at it, I think, you know, a disciplined style

761
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: of football, kind of an older school style of football.

762
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Speaker 1: I think he can bring that to Purdue and operate that.

763
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: But can that win in the Big Ten? And how

764
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: long does it take to turn that around? If you will?

765
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Speaker 1: What do you anticipate, if anything, this year from Purdue

766
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: in this rebuild.

767
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Speaker 6: I haven't the faintest idea. I mean, I really we

768
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Speaker 6: just have to see.

769
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 5: Them in camp. I mean, again, you're talking about.

770
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Speaker 6: A team that essentially has like one player that anyone

771
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Speaker 6: knows anything about.

772
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Speaker 1: Probably he doesn't have the faintest idea, right, I mean,

773
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Speaker 1: they've got to be nat.

774
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Speaker 5: I can't imagine that he does. Again, I think it

775
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 5: would be unfair to say, you know, can you do it?

776
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Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti did?

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Speaker 6: I just but in this day and age, you don't

778
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 6: have to rebuild over four or five years. You can

779
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 6: be competitive right away because he utilized the portal. And

780
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Speaker 6: again he's got a handful of guys coming from UNLV.

781
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Speaker 6: It's nothing like the JMU contingent that came last year

782
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Speaker 6: with Signetti. But again, I really, I mean, I have

783
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 6: no field at all. I would agree with you. I

784
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 6: think he did a really nice job at UNLV. You know,

785
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: my old colleague Kenny Mayne, of course, was a backup

786
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: quarterback at UNLV soul. He would always regale me.

787
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Speaker 5: With tales of UNLV football.

788
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 6: But the truth of the matter is it's not much

789
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 6: of a tradition. And you know the fact that he won.

790
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 6: They won twenty games in two years. I think he

791
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 6: was responsible for nineteen of them because he left before

792
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: the bowl game last year, but they had won you know,

793
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 6: I think like five years the year or five games

794
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: the year before he got there. So he did a

795
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: really good job. You know, he wasn't great at Missouri. Again,

796
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 6: I just reserve judgment. I want to see. I thought

797
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 6: he was impressive in Las Vegas. He's a pretty even

798
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: keeled guy, or at least came across that way. He's

799
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 6: different from Signetti.

800
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Speaker 5: I mean, there's a whole lot of bravado there.

801
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 6: There are lots of different ways to get this done,

802
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 6: and I just anxiously go to camp and see what

803
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: it looks like.

804
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: So take me through Dave repsent, our guest Big ten Network. Dave,

805
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: the coverage that you guys will begin doing. And I

806
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: know that you obviously you probably are doing your final

807
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: preparations in terms of getting ready to do your camp tour.

808
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned it starts at Nebraska. What is the next

809
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: say two weeks like on the Big ten Network in

810
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: terms of where all you're going to be and all

811
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Speaker 1: that you haven't planned.

812
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we start, as I said, we start the camp

813
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 6: tour at Nebraska on Friday.

814
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 5: We go to Minnesota from there and then we head east.

815
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 6: What we're flying, we're not it's not all buses anymore.

816
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 6: For obvious reasons, which is, you know you you really

817
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 6: couldn't get it done.

818
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 5: So we head east after that and will be.

819
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 6: I want to say, we go to Maryland and then

820
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 6: kind of do the the Penn State, Rutgers and that.

821
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Speaker 5: Whole leg of the trip.

822
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's I'm looking up here to see when

823
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 6: we're in Indiana and producer. We're in Indiana on August

824
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 6: the eighth, and we're at Purdue on August the ninth,

825
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 6: so that's kind of the back end. We go east

826
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Speaker 6: to Maryland and then swing back through the state of

827
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 6: Indiana and then go back out to Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern

828
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: and then the West Coast schools, which Ashley is.

829
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Speaker 5: Going to be doing. Uh those start in the middle

830
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Speaker 5: of August.

831
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't. And here's the thing, Dave. It's

832
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: parachuting from the top of a bus. Very dangerous, right yeah, I.

833
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, you got yeah, may not open quickly, you

834
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: may not.

835
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Speaker 1: Open yeah, I mean that's an ankle issue at that point, right,

836
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: So it's probably better than on the plane, right.

837
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Well, you know, we do. It's a mixture.

838
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: We've got We've got this company.

839
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 6: Called land Jet, which has these tricked out sprinter vans,

840
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: and so we use land Jet quite a bit like

841
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 6: kind of in these shorter haul trips, but we don't

842
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 6: have the full like concert tour bus that we used

843
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 6: to have, So it's a little bit of flying, a

844
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 6: little bit of driving, and a lot of parachhite.

845
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: By the way, before we let you go, Dave, two

846
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: things in terms of you mentioned concert now. Number one,

847
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: if you remember the last time we talked to you,

848
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: I had just purchased my tickets for my annual White

849
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Sox game with Shannon, which is going to take place

850
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: coming up here on the thirteenth of August. I set

851
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: up an alert on my phone to buy face value,

852
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: like you know, right there off the top, and I'm

853
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: thinking based on their year, you are correct in the

854
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: fact that was not a sound business decision. Probably secondary

855
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: market readily available right now.

856
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, Yes, been out there twice in the last month.

857
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: I was there for the win over the Cubs on.

858
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 6: Friday, which of course was packed house, but then the

859
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 6: other game I was at, I mean there could have

860
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 6: been more than ten thousand people there. So you'll have

861
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 6: your not just your pick of seats, oll to your

862
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 6: pick of a road I know.

863
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the other thing you mentioned concert I went,

864
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: and you tell me, you know, everybody on the show

865
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: knows this because I talked about it forever. It was unbelievable.

866
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: I did go to Manchester, England to see Oasis for

867
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Speaker 1: two shows in Manchester, their hometown, and the view of

868
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Dave Revson music officionado, that is lame or that is cool?

869
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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Man, I think that's super cool. I mean, I'm not

871
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Speaker 6: a huge Oasis fan, but but I mean, first of

872
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Speaker 6: I'll just go to Manchester for a concert to see

873
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Speaker 6: a group in its hometown. I think that's I think

874
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Speaker 6: that's awesome.

875
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Speaker 5: Was it fun?

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was They have a park that is as a

878
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, it's basically the size of Central Park

879
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: and they had they listed it at eighty thousand. I

880
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: think it's closer to one hundred thousand. Here's the one

881
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Speaker 1: thing I learned Dave that I shared with our listeners.

882
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Speaker 1: But you and I are friends, so I'm going to

883
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Speaker 1: share this with you. In the event that you go

884
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Speaker 1: to a concert in the UK, you start seeing cups

885
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Speaker 1: flying through the air, a lot of moisture through the air,

886
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: cups celebrating like with big songs, and I learned, thankfully,

887
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Speaker 1: I was tipped to this in advance when you get

888
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Speaker 1: into these big crowds like that for outdoor, this is

889
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: a soccer thing, is where it started. You double fisted

890
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: your beers, but then it's too hard to get to

891
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: the portalettes, so then the empty cups are used for

892
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: that purpose until your favorite song comes on, in which

893
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Speaker 1: you hoist them in the air. So if you're going

894
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Speaker 1: to go to a show there, you want to be

895
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Speaker 1: in the back like forty percent.

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, yeah.

897
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was. It was a little eye opening,

898
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Speaker 1: to say the least. And then like you talk to

899
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Speaker 1: people afterwards and like, yeah, I got kind of wet.

900
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Speaker 1: I just went back and took a shower. I'm not sure,

901
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, oh, as a germaphoe, you have

902
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Speaker 1: just described it literally my worst nightmare. Yeah, I mean listen.

903
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: But other than that, and that's you know, that's like

904
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Speaker 1: the twenty five and undercrowd that's in the front. You know,

905
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: David was amazing. I mean they are. It was electric

906
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: just to see. That's the thing about music when you

907
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: can look around at people that grew up on the

908
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: other side of the planet and realize that you have

909
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: the common thread of the same soundtrack. That means a

910
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: lot to you. That is a special thing. So it

911
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: was very, very cool, and I'll enjoy that exact same

912
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: fraternal feeling with the other two hundred and forty six

913
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Speaker 1: people that will be at the White Sox game with

914
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Speaker 1: me on the thirteenth. So if you're not at a camp,

915
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Speaker 1: swing by and say Hi.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sad that I'll be out of town on

917
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: that day because I mean, I would like to see you,

918
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Speaker 6: but I probably have my soul the Socks. I mean,

919
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 6: I went one and one and the win over the

920
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 6: Cubs Friday was fun.

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Speaker 1: So well two games season, You're doing better than most

922
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Socks fans, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know, yeah, all right.

924
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Speaker 1: Nebraska is the first of the tour for Dave Revsen

925
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Speaker 1: and the group from the Big Ten Network and again

926
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Speaker 1: August eighth and ninth, they will be coming through the

927
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Speaker 1: state of Indiana. Look for the low flying plane and

928
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Speaker 1: Dave pulling the ripcord jumping out of it along with

929
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Speaker 1: Jerry DeNardo. Dave appreciate it as always, man, look forward

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Speaker 1: to talking to you again.

931
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Speaker 5: Oh, I'd be good. Thanks you.

932
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Speaker 1: It's our buddy Dave Rebsen from the Big Ten Network. Again.

933
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Speaker 1: In terms of camp, it is an off day in

934
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Speaker 1: camp on the professional side of things. But Joel Erickson

935
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: will get us up to speed on everything that has

936
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Speaker 1: happened so far with the coltson maybe some injury updates

937
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Speaker 1: as well. We'll do it next. Joela Ericson would be

938
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Speaker 1: happy to know than just we are like, I think

939
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Speaker 1: two weeks three weeks away from IndyCar and Milwaukee. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but when whenever

941
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Speaker 1: IndyCar goes to Milwaukee, and I bought tickets last night,

942
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Speaker 1: by the way, for the Brewers. The Brewers are playing

943
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Speaker 1: the Giants. And let me tell you something. The Brewers tickets.

944
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Speaker 1: You know, I always buy like the top literally the

945
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Speaker 1: top row of like right field. No joke on the

946
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Speaker 1: Brewers tickets this year. I mean there it was.

947
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Speaker 2: Are the best team in baseball? Un I listen, I

948
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Speaker 2: mean it was, And I mean I have no idea how.

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Speaker 1: Top dollar I paid more for the Brewers Giants game

950
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Speaker 1: than I did for the Oasis concert. I'm being extremely sarcastic,

951
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: but whenever the Brewers are playing and I'm up there

952
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: for a game or for IndyCar. Then the beer Fairy

953
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: shows up at Joel Erickson's house, which is always exciting.

954
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: He joins us now, and I'm sure thrilled to be

955
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Speaker 1: doing so on the guest line on an off day

956
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: for the Colts. So exactly what most beat writers want

957
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: to do is join this program. Joel. Let's begin with

958
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: this from an injury standpoint. We discussed it yesterday, but

959
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: for those that were not here yesterday, there were a

960
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: couple of tweaks. Does anything can you recap for us

961
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Speaker 1: a couple of the injuries that we saw yesterday and

962
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Speaker 1: if there's any information at all to update, Yeah.

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00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 7: I'm I'm mostly focused on the cornerbacks. Juju Brents after

964
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Speaker 7: we talked to him. Sometime between us talking to him

965
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Speaker 7: and the next day was out with the hamstring, and

966
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Speaker 7: then we saw Jalen Jones deal with a hamstring injury.

967
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Speaker 7: We saw him pull up that one. As hamstrings go,

968
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Speaker 7: it looked it looked pretty bad to start, and I

969
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 7: think that that that that's the one I'm focused on

970
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 7: because they're they're competition with Justin Wally, and Wally has

971
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Speaker 7: been ahead of them, so far for that cornerback job.

972
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Speaker 7: I think that's the biggest one. Michael Pittman kind of

973
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 7: finished practice. I wonder if his growing is maybe more

974
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 7: just maintenance. But yeah, I think the corners are the one.

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Speaker 7: I'm most interested in.

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Speaker 1: The the injury that you talked about with Jalen Jones,

977
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Speaker 1: because you are right, I mean that that seems to

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Speaker 1: be boy. I mean, and now, and let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, my apologies. Is it Whaley or Wally because

980
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: I hear both.

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Speaker 7: I've been saying Wally, and now I'm concerned that I

982
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Speaker 7: that wrong.

983
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Speaker 1: I've been saying Whaley, and then I went to Wally,

984
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Speaker 1: and then I went, I've kind of how about this

985
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Speaker 1: justin w How's that?

986
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Speaker 3: The person to ask is Matt Taylor.

987
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Speaker 7: Tomorrow, I'm going to just pull Matt Taylor aside and say, hey,

988
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 7: am I saying?

989
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Joel, this is not unprecedented because we've had

990
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Speaker 1: like Antoine Bethay was Antoine Bethay, that he was Antoine

991
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: Betheya than back, you know what I mean. We've had

992
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: players and in racing I can tell you. I mean

993
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Tony Kanan was Tony Kanaan when he first came to

994
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: the United States, and then everybody said Canaan and it

995
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we'll just go with that, you know

996
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. So so we're all off the hook here.

997
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: But having said that, he has been really and you

998
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, he's been kind of the

999
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: buzz of this camp so far.

1000
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 7: I think early on it was mostly because he was

1002
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 7: ahead of those guys. The last two days, though, we

1003
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 7: started to see him make more plays on the ball.

1004
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 7: Some of the stuff we heard them talk about in

1005
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 7: the off season, we didn't really see that last week.

1006
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 7: We started to see it this week. I think the

1007
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 7: thing that I keep thinking about him is when I

1008
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 7: talked to him in June, after they've been praising him

1009
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 7: and saying he was breaking up all these passes and

1010
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 7: making all these interceptions, I said, is this easier than

1011
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 7: you thought it would be? Or are you more comfortable

1012
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 7: than you thought it would be? And he said, no,

1013
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 7: this is the hardest thing I've ever done on a

1014
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 7: football field. And I think when your head is swimming

1015
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: and you're still impressing the coaching staff and making plays,

1016
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 7: to me, that's an indicator of something something to be

1017
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 7: excited about.

1018
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: The quarterback competition is the one, Joel, that is always

1019
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: going to be the storyline of this camp. It was

1020
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: going into it, it is now. But before we go there,

1021
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you what I've asked a couple

1022
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: of others, and that is you mentioned corner. Is there

1023
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: another area that you look towards where maybe there is

1024
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: a potential unseat of the incumbent or a battle taking

1025
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: place that you did not anticipate three weeks ago was

1026
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: going to be a story.

1027
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 7: I think maybe not talking about center enough. You know,

1028
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 7: Magnzoalvez at right guard has basically just been the right

1029
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 7: guard with the first team at center, Tanner Bordolini and

1030
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 7: Danny Pinter are are they are trading off days?

1031
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: Really I thought I thought, I mean, guilty is charged

1032
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: here because I thought that that was a done one

1033
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: and that Bartolini was going to be the guy.

1034
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 7: That's that's kind of I think what most of us

1035
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 7: thought going in. But but so far it has been

1036
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 7: sixty there one day and then sixty three there the

1037
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 7: next day, and they have continued on that. I think

1038
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 7: that is a real competition at the center position that

1039
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 7: maybe maybe we need to pay a little more attention

1040
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 7: to as we go forward.

1041
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Is that because of the fact that that Bartolini has

1042
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: played poorly or because Pinter has exceeded expectation.

1043
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 7: I I think it goes back to last year. Because

1044
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 7: they've really only been in full pads for two days.

1045
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 7: They don't really have a ton of data on.

1046
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: The offensive lineman.

1047
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 7: Yet I think it goes back to last year BORDERLINI

1048
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 7: came back from any injury, Pinter had started a game,

1049
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 7: and instead of just giving ford a Leini back the

1050
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 7: position he had earlier in the year, they went with

1051
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 7: Pinter to start another game before Ryan Kelly came back.

1052
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 7: Something something in the evaluation for Tony Sparan or that's

1053
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 7: the offensive line coach and the rest of the coaching

1054
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: staff tells them that that should be more of a competition.

1055
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: And I have made a note.

1056
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 7: I made a note to myself yesterday I need to

1057
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 7: watch the centers a little more closely than I have.

1058
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: Been interesting because you know the but I will give

1059
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: and you tell me Joel if you agree with this.

1060
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. Bernard Ryman. Do you remember when

1061
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman came in he had short arms? You remember that,

1062
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: like everybody was they and actually they they initially when

1063
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: they drafted him, they only had a photo of a

1064
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: t Rex. They didn't actually have a photo of him,

1065
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: and that was the big knock on him, right and

1066
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard basically said, look, we think this guy

1067
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: can grow into it. And he did. And I will

1068
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: give Ballard credit there. And in a time when we

1069
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: have been very critical of Chris Ballard over the last

1070
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: couple of years, the one area well where I give

1071
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: him credit is I do think that they have built

1072
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: an offensive line here that does have some depth and

1073
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: some guys that can Swiss Army a little bit. And

1074
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: he gets credit there because not all of them were

1075
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: can't miss products. Am I giving him too much credit?

1076
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 7: No? No, I think you're right. I think Ryman in

1077
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 7: particular should be looked at, regardless of whatever happens, as

1078
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 7: one of the best draft picks of his tenure. You

1079
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 7: don't get left tackles outside of the first round. You

1080
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 7: just don't. I mean there's a couple. David Bachiari's a

1081
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 7: forced drawn Armstead was a third, but like it's very

1082
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 7: few and far between for like left tackle names that

1083
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 7: people might know that came outside of the first round.

1084
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 7: Ballard took one in the third saw something with him

1085
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 7: and he has developed into that that is much harder,

1086
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 7: I think than we necessarily give it credit for.

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Based.

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00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 7: You know, if you just go back and look at

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00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 7: the history of left tackles, and I know someone's gonna

1090
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: go out there and go, I found this guy and

1091
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: this guy or whatever. But my editor Nat newle Is

1092
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 7: is big in the numbers and has done this plenty

1093
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Speaker 7: of times. It is very hard to find a left tackle.

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00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: Outside of the first round.

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Speaker 1: The Colts were able to do it the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Leader right now is who Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: I think is.

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: That because Anthony Richardson has taken a step or because

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00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is not.

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00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 7: I think for me it's because I thought for Daniel

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00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 7: Jones to win this job coming in that he had

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 7: to be leaps and bounds more efficient as a pastor

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00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: and accurate as a pastor, and I haven't necessarily seen that.

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: So far.

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00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 7: Richardson has had periods and stretches of practice where he's

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: been much more accurate than we've seen in the past.

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00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 7: I still have like yesterday's practice is a good example.

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00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 7: He was nine to eleven at one point with one

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 7: of the incomplete is coming on a shovel, and you

1110
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 7: feel really good about that. And then the last period

1111
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 7: comes out and he goes oh for three with some

1112
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 7: with some misses in there. And so there's a piece

1113
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: of me that wonders, you know, which one to hang

1114
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 7: my hat on or.

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00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: Pay attention to.

1116
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 7: But Jones, I thought, you know, his advantage was, you know,

1117
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 7: he's a he's got a veteran with reputation for knowing

1118
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 7: the offense and working really hard and doing all that stuff.

1119
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 7: And those guys, I think you have to complete a

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Speaker 7: ton of passes and I just don't know that we've

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00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 7: seen that. I think the thing that I've noticed most

1122
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 7: with him is he has a tendency to either throw

1123
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 7: a little bit late or lock on a receiver or

1124
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 7: whatever it is. It's hard to tell, but there there

1125
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 7: are a lot of sort of routes where a receiver

1126
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 7: has settled down and he throws and it gets broken up.

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00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 7: There was one practice where every incompletion he had was

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 7: like that, and to me that that was the kind

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00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 7: of throw that he has to be making over and

1130
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 7: over and over again to take.

1131
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: The job away from Richardson.

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00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 7: Because Richardson, I think we haven't necessarily seen it in

1133
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 7: camp so far, but he gives you he's more dynamic

1134
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 7: as a runner, and he's definitely more dynamic as a

1135
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 7: thrower down the field.

1136
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: So and Richardson has am I correct in saying Joel

1137
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: shown a little bit more consistency in the layup game

1138
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: right like the over the middle. The timing has been

1139
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: better right in terms and to the point where there

1140
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: were people that were wondering who he worked with in

1141
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: the offseason. But before I get to my other question,

1142
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: am I correct in saying that he has been more

1143
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: precise in the rhythm passing. Talking about Anthony Richardson, So.

1144
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: I looked up last year. I looked at what I

1145
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: had last year for.

1146
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 7: Training camp, and by the end of training camp, I

1147
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 7: had him at sixty one percent completion. That's my unofficial count.

1148
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 7: I'm sure the Colts have a different official count. It's

1149
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 7: the same right now. I have him at fifty four

1150
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 7: to fifty five. So I do think there has been

1151
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 7: an uptick in in him getting the ball out of

1152
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 7: the pocket on time, all that type of thing. I

1153
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 7: would like to see a little more before I'm ready

1154
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 7: to say that it's definitely different than it was last year.

1155
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is my follow up to that, and

1156
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: it involves spoiler alert here. I'm about to reveal a

1157
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: deep secret from a movie and ruin the movie if

1158
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: you've not seen it. But the movie's thirty years old,

1159
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: so I feel safe that it's not really a spoiler alert. Joel,

1160
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: have you seen the movie? I've referenced it before on

1161
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: this show maybe with you. Have you ever seen the

1162
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: movie Primal Fear with Ed Norton and Richard Gear. Yes,

1163
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: it's a fabulous movie. In the movie, Ed Norton plays

1164
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: a defendant who is a very likable, innocent young guy

1165
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: with this like sinister streak, and at the end of

1166
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: the movie you find out that, in fact, he is

1167
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: a sinister guy with a fake persona of an innocent

1168
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: kid that he can do in a streak. Is there

1169
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: any chance that Anthony Richardson, when we see these things

1170
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: about him as a consistent quarterback, is actually ed and

1171
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: when the regular season rolls around, we're going to find

1172
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: out that he is not a guy now that is

1173
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: an accurate quarterback where that has come together, that has mobility,

1174
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: but rather he's a mobile guide that still does not

1175
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: have accuracy.

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00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 7: I I think that it's definitely possible, and I think

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 7: I think part of it is maybe a lesson for

1178
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 7: me and the time I've covered this team is I

1179
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 7: don't want to overvalue what we're seeing on the training

1180
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 7: camp field. And I know, as somebody who's who's writing

1181
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 7: an observations piece every day where I'm detailing every throw

1182
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 7: that that may sound a little bit, you know, hypocritical,

1183
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 7: But the thing is, like, you know, we're we're what

1184
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 7: were we thinking coming out of camp with Matt Ryan,

1185
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 7: you know, and some of these other guys, some of

1186
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 7: these other camps over the time. I think I think

1187
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 7: there's a there's a piece of me that's become a

1188
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 7: little bit skeptical on stuff. Like I said, I had

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Speaker 7: him at I had him at sixty one percent at

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 7: the end of camp last year. I think it's it's

1191
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 7: definitely possible that, you know, some of the some of

1192
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 7: the periods we've seen where he hasn't been as accurate

1193
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 7: so far, end up being more of the norm once

1194
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 7: you're in a less controlled setting, for the colt's sake,

1195
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 7: you don't want that, but I think it's definitely possible.

1196
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Speaker 1: Joel A. Erickson is our guest Indianapolis Star is where

1197
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: you can read his work. We're talking about the Colts

1198
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: who have the off day today again. Jalen Jones yesterday

1199
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Juju Brents it was not visible, but apparently

1200
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: is dealing with a hamstring injury. Michael Pittman Junior had

1201
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: a groin injury late in practice. Am I correcting that?

1202
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 7: And it was very late because he had something like

1204
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 7: five catches in teamwork before that.

1205
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so did it And that was not something that

1206
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: you saw, right. We just were told about it later.

1207
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: I didn't see it.

1208
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 7: I know Nay Atkins, who covers the Cults with me

1209
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 7: at Adnee Starr, said that he was kind of it

1210
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 7: looked like one of those things that maybe you kind

1211
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 7: of go over to the trainer and say, hey, this

1212
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 7: is bothering me, and then they kind of just make

1213
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 7: a decision on it. So it wasn't like the Jalen

1214
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 7: Jones thing where you saw it happen very obviously in

1215
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 7: front of you.

1216
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: You know one guy that I have heard. You know,

1217
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: there seems to be some optimism about and I get

1218
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: the fact that it's hard to get excited about anybody

1219
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: that is going to be spelling Jonathan Taylor, because Jonathan

1220
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: Taylor is obviously, you know, an elite player in one

1221
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: that you anticipate being on the field as much as possible.

1222
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: But I've heard good things about DJ Giddens, and it

1223
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: seems like he has been impressive. They're rookie running back

1224
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: out of Kansas State. Fact or fiction on the fact

1225
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: that he has jumped out a little bit.

1226
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: Fact definite fact.

1227
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 7: I think Gidden's he's an interesting runner because you know,

1228
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 7: you don't have sort of the jarring jump cut that

1229
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 7: you get with Taylor's, the kind of sudden and hard

1230
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 7: change of movement. He's more of a glider. I think

1231
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: the word is the word Shane Steiken used. It's subtle.

1232
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 7: The way he makes cuts is subtle. It's a little

1233
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 7: thing here or there. But he's really good at navigating traffic.

1234
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 7: And then the other thing I think that that helps

1235
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 7: him get on the field is he looks really natural

1236
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 7: catching the football, which you know is a weakness of

1237
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 7: Johnson Taylor's. I don't think anyone would ever say that

1238
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 7: Johnathan Taylor looks natural catching the football. Every time they've

1239
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 7: thrown it past the Giddons, it's looked very smooth, very consistent,

1240
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 7: and so I think that probably helps him get on

1241
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 7: the field and gets him in some situations if he

1242
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 7: can do that receiving work out of the backfield, They've

1243
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 7: they've wanted to have somebody that can rely on to

1244
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 7: do that and spell Taylor a little bit.

1245
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: For a while. Joel, how do you think Shane Steichen's

1246
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: different than last year? If in any way, shape or form.

1247
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 7: I would say he's. It feels to me like he's

1248
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 7: every year he's been here, he's gotten more comfortable in

1249
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 7: just the atmosphere of being on the team. I don't

1250
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 7: want to say just because I mean, honestly, who cares

1251
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 7: how he is with the reporters and stuff like that.

1252
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 7: That's such a small part of his job. But I

1253
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 7: feel like the comfort level he has is is probably

1254
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 7: gone up every year. I think the other thing with

1255
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 7: him that I've noticed is he's he's he's really into

1256
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 7: this year in practice trying to throw some unexpected at

1257
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 7: the players. There've been a couple times in practice where

1258
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 7: you know, Matt Taylor is announcing to everybody this is

1259
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 7: what's going to happen, and Shane's out there like, no,

1260
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 7: it's not I'm going to do a sudden change thing

1261
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 7: and deviate from the part. I don't know if I

1262
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: think deviate from the practice plan he talked about. He

1263
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 7: didn't feel like they did a good job with that

1264
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: in games last year. It's an interesting tactic. I have

1265
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 7: no idea if it's going to work out or not,

1266
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 7: but it's it's interesting that he's that devoted to it,

1267
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 7: that he's, you know, throwing a wrench into practice in

1268
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 7: random spots to kind of get the players out of

1269
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 7: their comfort zone. That's that's maybe the other piece that

1270
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 7: I've noticed with him that's pretty different.

1271
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: By the way, Joel, the last couple of days, they

1272
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: have increased the practices, I mean from an hour to

1273
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. It's not like it's overbearing

1274
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: and they're doing it before it is truly truly scorching

1275
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: hot out. But it's been warm, right. I know this

1276
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: is an NFLPA thing, and I get it the collective

1277
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement in terms of players and the amount of

1278
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: practice they're doing. And maybe I'm just old, but I'm

1279
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: still a little bit surprised at just how short the

1280
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: practices are and at least to this point. And you

1281
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, the lack of overall intensity.

1282
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm not the one out there, so don't get me wrong,

1283
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be. You know, the guy

1284
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: that sits here talks about how tough Dick Buckets was.

1285
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: But have you been, I guess, in any way, shape

1286
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: or form, surprised by the I'll say lack of work

1287
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: to this point, if that makes sense relatively speaking, I.

1288
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 7: Think that you know, I've been covering the NFL for

1289
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 7: about a decade now, and I think that that puts

1290
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 7: me in the range where I'm I this is kind

1291
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 7: of what I own pretty much what I've seen, even

1292
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 7: in covering another team and covering another coach in Sean Payton.

1293
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 7: I attribute a lot of it to a lot of

1294
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 7: it to the NFLPA, but a lot of it also

1295
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 7: to what goes on in those conversations with the training

1296
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 7: staff and the medical staff behind the scenes. I don't

1297
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 7: necessarily know that you would see it different anywhere other

1298
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 7: than I think the one place that has a reputation

1299
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 7: for being more physical than anywhere else is Pittsburgh with

1300
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin. But he's he's also kind of an old

1301
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 7: school coach himself. He's been there a really long time,

1302
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 7: and I think he kind of pushes the boundaries on

1303
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 7: the physicality. I I'll tell you this. I mean, I

1304
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 7: think basically everyone you know who coached a in a

1305
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 7: different era of football says that it's you know, even

1306
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 7: when they say they're being physical, they're not really being physical, right.

1307
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: I just don't know.

1308
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 7: That it's that different from anywhere else around the NFL.

1309
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 7: It just feels like to me, this is the way

1310
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 7: the NFL crime in it's now.

1311
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: It's basically the collective Barney agreement, right. I mean, didn't

1312
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: they say we only want to do so? And I

1313
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: get it again, I get it. I guess the question

1314
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: I had in Steve and I were talking about this

1315
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: yesterday Joel, but Joel ericson our guest, and that is,

1316
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: do we know? Do we have enough body of work

1317
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: to know? You know, the Colts have had a history

1318
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: in the last decade or so of seemingly being a

1319
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: team that has dealt with more little injuries over the

1320
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: course of the year than most franchises. Maybe we just

1321
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: say that because we cover them, right, But do we

1322
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: know or will we ever know, whether or not scaling

1323
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: back practices increases or decreases injury potential.

1324
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 7: That's that's a fantastic question, because I think it's not

1325
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 7: just the CBA. I also think it is these teams.

1326
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 7: I think it's the school of thought within the people

1327
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 7: who are in charge of strength and conditioning and rest

1328
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 7: and recovery and all that stuff. I think that is

1329
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 7: it is their school of thought that this is the

1330
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 7: way to go as well. Without seeing the data, Without

1331
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 7: seeing the data that they have and that they use

1332
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 7: it at, you know, the owners meetings and stuff like that,

1333
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 7: I think it's really hard for us to know because

1334
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 7: I know in terms of the cults having more injuries,

1335
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,959
Speaker 7: I know another thing that the NFLPA has really talked

1336
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 7: about a lot is surfaces, the surfaces they're playing on,

1337
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 7: and that the old Lucas oil turf was known as

1338
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 7: a bad surface to be playing on, and that that

1339
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 7: that that was there's a thought school of thought that

1340
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 7: that has contributed to some of the colts injuries over

1341
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 7: the years. Without having all of the data available to us,

1342
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 7: I don't think we have. I think it's really hard

1343
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 7: for us to do anything more than speculate on it.

1344
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 7: And I also don't know how to make them give

1345
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 7: us that data or or sit down with us and say, okay,

1346
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 7: you're doing doing this? How different from previous? How is

1347
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 7: that different from you know, twenty years ago.

1348
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: More or thirty years ago?

1349
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: Joel? Do you think I should get three and a

1350
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: half percent of Bernard Ryman's contract since it was on

1351
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: this show that he said that they were far offer

1352
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: than they got a deal done.

1353
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 7: Uh, I'm totally fine with giving you three and a

1354
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 7: half percent his I'm pretty sure that's more than his

1355
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 7: agent gets.

1356
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: But I have an agent typically gets seven percent, right,

1357
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: isn't that about right?

1358
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: No? No, no, No, that's gone down over the.

1359
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: Years, has it really?

1360
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these agents have like one

1361
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: hundred guys, so it doesn't matter. So what's the agent

1362
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: get's the cut?

1363
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: I think it's more in like the I thought.

1364
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 7: I'm in front of me right now, and I know

1365
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 7: we have agency if I was wrong, But I think

1366
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 7: it's more in like.

1367
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: The two percent, Joel, it's gone down, Joel. Hang on, Joel,

1368
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'd like to walk back what you

1369
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: just said. I know there might be agents in this

1370
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: city that are listening. Let me let me inform you

1371
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: of something we got twenty two female listeners. That's now

1372
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: up to twenty four. I think when Eddie was gone.

1373
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: The other day we picked up female listener number twenty four. Okay, yes,

1374
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: just yesterday Shannon, who I've been dating now for twenty years,

1375
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: actually asked what I do when I go to work.

1376
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: So so that's off the table. My mom's at lunch

1377
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: today right now. And then so I appreciate your belief

1378
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: and confidence that there are listeners of this program, But

1379
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: this is basically you and I sitting in a tent.

1380
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: You know that, right.

1381
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 7: I get enough text messages after I'm on with you,

1382
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 7: j because I know there are people listening.

1383
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: Really, Oh yeah?

1384
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: Is it mostly people saying how big an ass is

1385
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: that guy? Is that typically what most of them say?

1386
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: No, No, most of them are.

1387
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 7: Most of them are like, most of them are like, hey,

1388
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 7: I heard you on Jake talking about.

1389
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 3: This and this or that. Sometimes it's football, a lot

1390
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: of times it's about beer or something like that.

1391
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: That's how it goes on this program, Joel. Let's be honest, right,

1392
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way it goes. You know, you

1393
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: sign up for this class, you're getting more, You're getting

1394
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: a couple of elective along with it. Okay. Now, hold on, Eddie,

1395
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: do you haven't had the breaking new sounder. We have

1396
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: a verdict from Matt Taylor on the pronunciation of the

1397
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: guy that right now is the clubhouse leader at corner,

1398
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: the rookie out of the University of Minnesota. Justin is

1399
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: the first name. There is discussion whether it is Wally

1400
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: or Whaley for the last name, and we have a

1401
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: ruling from Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts, who

1402
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: of course would know you would like to guess for

1403
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: what answer Matt on that, Well, that's true, it's not Matt,

1404
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,919
Speaker 1: Joel Joe. You would like to You're going with which one.

1405
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 7: I've been I've been assuming it's Wally, so I'm gonna

1406
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 7: stick with.

1407
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: It, Eddie, Wally Wally is indeed correct. That is the

1408
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: correct answer. It is Justin Wallace. I don't know why

1409
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: I've heard it both ways, though I'm not wrong there right.

1410
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 7: There is a there is I know there is a

1411
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 7: beat writer who I will not name, but that has

1412
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 7: has had the other pronunciation. So you've definitely heard it

1413
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 7: the other way.

1414
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but it is indeed Wallett. Now I'm telling you,

1415
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,440
Speaker 1: so what said do I get for Ryman.

1416
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 3: Let's go too, and I say two and a half.

1417
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: We'll give you two and a half.

1418
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: Wow, listen, I'll take I'll take point zero two point

1419
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: zero two. Eddie, can you look up for me please?

1420
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be an easy Joel. Are

1421
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: you a math whiz? You're a writer, so you're not right.

1422
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: You've flunked every math class you ever took, right.

1423
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 7: I I was good at masks back then, but now

1424
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 7: someone gives it to me on a print out.

1425
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: By the way, my buddy, my buddy, Rick Givers. Rick

1426
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: Givers is an agent, but he's a media agent, and

1427
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: he says there's at least one agent listening. Now. Rick

1428
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: thinks I should get twelve percent, but that's because we're buddies.

1429
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: Eddie.

1430
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: Can you look up what point zero two percent is

1431
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: of one hundred million or just of one hundred? What's

1432
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: point zero? I should know that what's point zero two

1433
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: of one hundred? So one percent of one hundred is

1434
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: one So.

1435
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: Really you need to look up what point oh two

1436
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: of one hundred is?

1437
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, obvious, but one hundred million, right, So then you

1438
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: got to add, yes, it's two no, two percent, two percent.

1439
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: Is two hundred Jake, it would be two.

1440
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, point zero two is two percent.

1441
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: Correct, that's two one hundred Yeah, you're right. Okay, So

1442
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: but of one hundred so of one hundred million, how

1443
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: much is that?

1444
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: That would be two million?

1445
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: Oh well, hell, let's go. Yeah, I'll take the point

1446
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: oh two. No, point oh two of a percentage, right,

1447
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: two two million would be oh yeah, you're right for

1448
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: one hundred million, you're right, Yeah, let's go. I'll take

1449
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 1: the point oh two again. I mean, like I said,

1450
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: I flunked algebra. I had to take it seven times

1451
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: and then missus Means helped me get through it. So

1452
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: two and a half million for point oh two. Hell,

1453
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: I'll take point oh two. Right, I'll take two hundred

1454
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: fifty grand. That would be point oh two.

1455
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: Right, Joel, I believe though.

1456
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: Come on, keep up here, man, I mean, you know

1457
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: we're doing quick math. You got to keep up, Joel.

1458
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: You're with math wises here.

1459
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: I helped a little bit.

1460
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 7: But now now we're getting.

1461
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: Further into it, and I'm getting right again.

1462
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I got all kinds of arrows flying past me.

1463
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: All right, Joel, much appreciated. What's your beer order? In

1464
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: case I don't talk to you between now and when

1465
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: I go to Milwaukee. Same as always.

1466
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, same as always. Yep.

1467
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 7: If you find, if you find the fat squirrel, bring

1468
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 7: that back as well.

1469
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: That's now. Now here's the thing. And you got to

1470
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: clarify this. When you're talking to a Wisconsin I you're

1471
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: actually talking about the beverage fat squirrel. You don't want

1472
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: me to bring back an actual hefty squirrel, right because no, no,

1473
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1474
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, we have squirrels in Indiana.

1475
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: We don't, we don't.

1476
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't need any squirrel understood. But but as you know,

1477
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: if it's from Wisconsin, it's a fatter squirrel because everything

1478
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: up there's fatter because they live on beer and cheese. Right,

1479
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean we know this, right.

1480
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: That's a thousand there's zero debate about that.

1481
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: See one thousand percent. Now we know what that is,

1482
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: A thousand percent of the hundred million. I'd take all right,

1483
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: Joel appreciated as always. You bet you bet, Joela Ericson,

1484
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure thrilled is to be spending his off day

1485
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: with us today, Eddie. Anything else we need to go

1486
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: over with a quick math. Now, I'm very good at

1487
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 1: multiplying numbers in my head. But that's it. I've always

1488
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: been thrown off by the decimal point percentages. Totally thrown

1489
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: off by that.

1490
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: No, I think we're good on math for now.

1491
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: But two percent and point zero two percent are different,

1492
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: are they not?

1493
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: They are different?

1494
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my point.

1495
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: Yes, but you said to multiple, you said take one

1496
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: hundred and multiple point zero two.

1497
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: Okay, what you're saying, I'm saying point zero two of

1498
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: a percentage point, so one fifth of a percent, so

1499
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: that would mean.

1500
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 2: Point zero zero two zero two two three zeros.

1501
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: But again I'm talking about if you say point zero

1502
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: two percent of the contract, I'm saying one fifth of

1503
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: a percentage point, yes, not two percent overall. That's different, right, Yes,

1504
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: that is different. Yes, okay, so that's where I was confused.

1505
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: But either way, he ain't giving me twenty bucks, is

1506
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: what we're getting at. I'll take it. I am curious, though,

1507
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: you would be stunned if you knew for professional athletes,

1508
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: when you hear one hundred million dollar contract, after you

1509
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: subtract taxes, after you subtract agency fee, I mean, there's

1510
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that where that one hundred

1511
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: million is a lot less. It's don't get me wrong.

1512
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean it is generational wealth. I'm not saying that,

1513
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the thought that a guy is automatically

1514
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: walking away with a suitcase with one hundred million dollars in.

1515
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: It is not the case at all.

1516
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: I just saw. Is it Trevor Ariza that I saw that?

1517
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: I think it was Trevor Ariza that made like forty

1518
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: eight million dollars in his NBA career, and there he

1519
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: is like seventy one thousand dollars per month in the whole.

1520
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: If it's not Trevor Ariza, my apologies to Trevor Ariza,

1521
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: but it was I think that was the player I

1522
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: read that about. But it is, and I think that's

1523
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: that sounds insane, But I think that the money goes

1524
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: away faster than you think. I think it goes way

1525
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: faster than you think. Debbie Antonelli gonna join us on

1526
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: the program. That's at what time an hour from now?

1527
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: Yes, we have tickets to give away at some point

1528
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: as well, Jay.

1529
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: Let's do it next. We have tickets to give away

1530
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 1: for three Dog Night and drop kick Murphy's both correct.

1531
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: No, just uh just drop kick Murphy's.

1532
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: Okay, three Dog night is tomorrow night we gave or

1533
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: Friday night we gave all those away. So drop kick

1534
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: Murphy's tickets to give away. Drop kick Murphy's tickets to

1535
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: give away. That is out at fwy's Amphitheater at the

1536
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: Lawn at White River, which is a fabulous facility, and

1537
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: we will do that. Would you like to do a

1538
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: little show trivia Eddie, I do enjoy a showch all right,

1539
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: we'll do it next two nine ten seventy lineup if

1540
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: you would like to go to the show. That show

1541
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: takes place when Eddie next Tuesday, Next Tuesday night. Two three,

1542
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: nine ten to seventy is the telephone number. I don't

1543
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: feel so dumb because the number of people that have

1544
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: texted me their definitive answer, and like literally it is

1545
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: one third or saying twenty grand, one third er saying

1546
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: two hundred grand, and one third saint two million. So

1547
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: it's all over the.

1548
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: Math, right, If you're saying two percent, it's two million.

1549
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: If you're saying one fit, So if you're saying zero

1550
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: point two percent of the one hundred million, yes, that

1551
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: would be two hundred grand.

1552
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: Correct, because it would be one fifth of one percent. Yes,

1553
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: that would be two hunder grand Yes, yeah.

1554
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

1555
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: Mark has called in about this. Hi, Mark, how are

1556
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: you good?

1557
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 8: How are you doing?

1558
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 5: Jered? No?

1559
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: No, no, what what what was the name? He said?

1560
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 7: There?

1561
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 5: Did?

1562
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 2: He just combined Jake and Derek.

1563
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 8: No, no, I said, Jerry, Jerry Jake. I'm sorry Jake, Jake.

1564
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: That's all right, Well I.

1565
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 8: Started out real man, I'm sorry about that, Jake.

1566
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: Matt It's fine. No, I'm just kidding, all right, what's

1567
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: going on?

1568
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: Mark Dank?

1569
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in.

1570
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 8: Hey, I was a special ed teacher in middle school

1571
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 8: for many years.

1572
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, what middle school?

1573
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 8: And Raymond Park?

1574
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: Uh now, let me get okay, he said Warren. Yes,

1575
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: so Lake's side feeds into that, Is that right?

1576
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 8: Correct?

1577
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the big brain here on Jared. Right, okay,

1578
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: h and Mark, you were a special at teacher for

1579
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: what years?

1580
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 8: I just retired last year?

1581
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: Okay? And you began doing so in what year?

1582
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: Two thousand and seven?

1583
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: Because I got to tell you that is you know,

1584
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: we can talk all we want, and we sit here

1585
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: and talk about the fact that Bernard Ryman, for example,

1586
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: got a one hundred million dollars deal and et cetera,

1587
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: and I get the facts supplying de man. I get it.

1588
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: There is no more important job. There are those that

1589
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: would be of equal importance, but I don't know that

1590
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: there's any more important job than education. And in education,

1591
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: I think we focus too much on at times the

1592
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: top tier of those that go on to the Oxfords

1593
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: of the world, and we don't focus enough on the

1594
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: contributions that can be made from those in all areas.

1595
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: And you are absolutely a champion and a saint and

1596
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: deserve every flower that comes your way mark for the

1597
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 1: work that you did and impacting every kid you impacted.

1598
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 8: Well, I do appreciate it, Thank you very much. I

1599
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 8: did teach gen ed classes for a while, and I'll

1600
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 8: tell you what I had a it's called functional academics.

1601
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 7: And these kids, you'd.

1602
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 8: See him walking down the hallway. Great kids do anything

1603
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 8: for you see, just academically they weren't there, but they

1604
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 8: could learn, and they worked hard. I had one kid

1605
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 8: who would put simple things for me all the time.

1606
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 8: He had that mechanical mind where he could, but he

1607
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 8: couldn't do anything else. He couldn't read or do math,

1608
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 8: but he could do that. So I had him do

1609
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 8: that around my room all the time. He loved it.

1610
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 8: But great, you know I did that. I much preferred

1611
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 8: doing teaching those kids, and I did in the gen

1612
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 8: ed classrooms the regular classrooms.

1613
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I believe that.

1614
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 8: It's yeah. Anyway, what I was telling you is it

1615
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 8: was driving me crazy. Is that the easiest way to do?

1616
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 8: And I taught them percon just means per century of

1617
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 8: per one hundred, right, Okay, Think of money. If you

1618
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 8: route down ten dollars and fifty two cents, what then

1619
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 8: would be at the point zero two the two cents right,

1620
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 8: two cents, the five would be.

1621
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: The five would be what the I don't know.

1622
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 8: The point five to two point five two.

1623
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 5: Got you?

1624
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yep.

1625
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 8: Five is fifty cents right, right, So you get two

1626
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 8: cents on the one hundred, right, So the point zero

1627
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 8: two is two cents per hundred.

1628
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So point zero two of one hundred million mm

1629
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: hm is.

1630
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 8: And you just add all the zeros at the end

1631
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 8: of it.

1632
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: One it's one fifth of one percent, which is two

1633
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: hundred grand right.

1634
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 8: One fifth one percent? Yes, yes, you are correcting that, Yes.

1635
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: Okay, it is fascinating, Mark, because here's the thing. What's

1636
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: fascinating to me. I can multiply numbers in my head instantly.

1637
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: I can figure out yeah, five percent instantly. You get

1638
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: into stuff like that, and it literally is like algebra

1639
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: to me. I mean I can tell you, like right now,

1640
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you off the top of my head.

1641
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 1: Botta Boom butter Bing, Indiana. In the eighty seven tournament.

1642
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: They defeated Vegas ninety seven ninety three, Syracuse seventy four

1643
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: to seventy three, Fairfield ninety two to fifty eight, Auburn

1644
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: one oh seven, ninety Duke eighty eight eighty two, Lsu

1645
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: seventy seven to seventy six. There's your eighty seven tournament run, right.

1646
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: But you go into something like that and it is

1647
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 1: literally a foreign language. Jimmy yea, the brain is a fascinating,

1648
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: fascinating landscape, right, you are correct.

1649
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 8: In middle school, I grew up Minnesota and my team,

1650
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 8: of course was the Twins. And that was back in

1651
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 8: rod Crue, Harmon Killebrew.

1652
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

1653
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 8: All those guys. I would sit there and probably like you,

1654
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 8: being a nerd, I would listen to the game on

1655
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 8: the radio.

1656
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: Now, Jared's the nerd. Jake is the colde ad Jared Nerd, you.

1657
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 8: Know I got mixed up. I got a nick.

1658
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Mark, no, listen, I get it. It's fascinating.

1659
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean the way the things that we can compute

1660
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: and factor in fascinating. And by the way, we still

1661
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: have tickets to good Way, do we not, Eddie? We

1662
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: do all right? Two nine ten seventy the telephone number

1663
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: for the Dropkick Murphy's. We're not No math will be involved, right,

1664
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: No math will be involved. If you want the tickets

1665
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: for Tuesday night to see the Dropkick Murphy's at the

1666
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: Frowise Amphitheater, and that is a fabulous facility. I'm telling you,

1667
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: like that venue alone, just to go. And I'm going

1668
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: to a show coming up in a couple of weeks

1669
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: at Rock the Ruins and I'm not even familiar with

1670
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: the acts. I just love live music. Outside sitting there

1671
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: listening to live music, everything about it is awesome. So

1672
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: if you are wanting to go and just simply partake

1673
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere and environment of a live show, live music,

1674
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: then right now is your chance to do it. Eddie.

1675
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: We are going to do this in what fashion, No

1676
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: math involved. Show trivia, show trivia Okay, who do we

1677
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: have lined up?

1678
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: We've got three callers. We'll just do this blindly, four colors. Now,

1679
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: we'll go a call it the line four.

1680
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Lot four, Roulette style. You are on the air.

1681
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: What is your name, sir or madam?

1682
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Tracy?

1683
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: Tracy Foreigner, my man, Tracy is my man, Tracy. Let

1684
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: me tell you something we were just talking about. You

1685
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: heard Mark talking about, you know, from a special education standpoint,

1686
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: his teaching. And I'm gonna say it right now, Tracy,

1687
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind me putting this on the spot,

1688
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: but as we know, your son has done not one,

1689
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: but two different artistic pieces for me and my family.

1690
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,520
Speaker 1: And I know that he went through a different curriculum

1691
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: in school, but his skill and his talent is the absolute, absolute,

1692
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: right there. Emphasis on the fact that everybody has their

1693
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: own bit of contribution and his skill set is unbelievable, unbelievable.

1694
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.

1695
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 9: Man is, everybody has the thing. You just have to

1696
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 9: find people that can help you find your thing.

1697
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 8: And that's not always the.

1698
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 9: Case, but I have I have been the benefit of

1699
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 9: that for many, many years. I actually posted on Facebook

1700
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 9: today a picture of my empty front porch because Brownsburg

1701
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 9: Public Schools started school today and it's the first time

1702
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 9: in twenty one years there is not going to be

1703
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 9: a foreigner going to Brownsburg Schools.

1704
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we're old. It's what you're getting at. Yeah,

1705
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: you had an embraced on last time I saw you.

1706
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: All right, Tracy, here we go. This is obviously going

1707
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: to be an easy one. Eddie. You I will allow you,

1708
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison to come up with a question, a show

1709
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: trivia question.

1710
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for this. Uh yeah, I'm not good

1711
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: at this, Jake.

1712
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 5: Maybe I should come up and want reddy.

1713
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: All right, Tracy, here's I'll give you a show trivia question.

1714
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: You ready.

1715
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Listen?

1716
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: Dude?

1717
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 9: You know I love you and my listening is sporadic

1718
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 9: because I'm old. It's terrestrial, so when I'm in the car.

1719
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: So okay, take it easy on you. If you don't

1720
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: get this one right, Tracy, if you don't get this

1721
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: one right, then then we're done. Okay.

1722
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: I mean it's that that's how easy this this lamp is?

1723
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: You ready?

1724
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 9: Wait a minute, We're supposed to go to the Maritimes

1725
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 9: Sailors Cathedral and Michigan.

1726
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 6: That lighthouse.

1727
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: That's the that's depending upon Tracy Forearner. You knowing this question?

1728
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: You ready?

1729
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 9: Do you know what today is?

1730
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: Today? Is today the twenty eighth or twenty ninth of July?

1731
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 5: What happened earth day?

1732
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: July thirty? Hit me with it?

1733
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 9: Well, it became I became aware of this true historical

1734
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 9: fact from my obsession with the movie Jaws.

1735
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh, the sinking of the USS Indianapolis.

1736
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 6: Well, now I got that off Facebook, and the algorithm

1737
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 6: could be off a the ar two.

1738
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: I think that's right though. All right, how about this one?

1739
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: I just saw what band in concert two weeks ago?

1740
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 9: Well, are we talking about where you tried to give

1741
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 9: the guy the clue? Where you're in a desert and

1742
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 9: there's no water, but you see something that one?

1743
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Tracy was listening or you didn't.

1744
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 9: You didn't go to that, you didn't go to the

1745
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 9: hip hugger, but this would be on a marquis for

1746
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 9: a place of ill repute.

1747
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Tracy was listening when I gave this exact same

1748
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: trivia question, which I forgot about. All right, Tracy will

1749
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: send you on your way. Man, you are the absolute best.

1750
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 1: Eddie will get all your information, even though I probably

1751
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: have it that is our friend. Formerly, of course, he

1752
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: used to do a cooking show, Tracy Forner. Did you

1753
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: ever see the cooking show he did, Eddie. No, he

1754
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: did a little cooking show on one of the TV

1755
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: stations here in town every afternoon. But Tracy is the

1756
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: absolute best. The Pride of Michigan on his way to

1757
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: see the Dropkick Murphy's Debbie Antonelli joining us forty five

1758
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: from now. Update yesterday from Stephanie White on Caitlin Clark.

1759
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: We'll discuss next, Eddie. The Fever are back in action tonight.

1760
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix Mercury, your first time they're facing each other

1761
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: and one Bona's returned.

1762
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Correct, And she actually started out to want to bontom

1763
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: with Phoenix after, you know, leaving the Fever. She started

1764
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: out pretty active in the scoring, you know aspect of things,

1765
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: and Water's kind of found its level there and it's

1766
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: tapered off just a little bit, but still one of

1767
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the storylines you will look for tonight. But the in

1768
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: terms of return, we don't know yet the date for

1769
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: that for Caitlin Clark. And yesterday Stephanie White was on

1770
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: with me and I asked her about exactly that. Now, Eddie,

1771
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: what's interesting is if you look at their schedule, and

1772
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: Stephanie White had mentioned this, they basically play every other

1773
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: or every third day between now and the seventeenth of August,

1774
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,839
Speaker 1: and then they have a five day break. And Stephanie

1775
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: White made the of you know, they want to be

1776
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: able to get some practices under the belt before they

1777
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: bring her back in. And yes, I mean she could

1778
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: begin practicing and just simply sit out games. But or

1779
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like in other words, it's

1780
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: not like they're gonna wait until she's available to the

1781
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: like then she's gonna start practicing. But you have to

1782
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: wonder if the possibility isn't there that they go until

1783
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: the seventeenth without.

1784
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 2: Her, It would be likely, Jake, because you just don't

1785
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: know how much time you're actually gonna have on the

1786
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 2: court to practice during that stretch of play that.

1787
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: You just mentioned. Yeah, that's a better way of saying, yeah.

1788
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Like you may have a couple of shoot rounds in

1789
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: the morning, like they have been a couple times this

1790
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: year where the Fever have not had a practice on

1791
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: the day between games and they don't have a morning

1792
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 2: shoot around. They just go to the arena of the

1793
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: night they play and play the game like that's just

1794
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: where they're at.

1795
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 7: You know.

1796
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: The the other thing, Eddie, that you look at, and

1797
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: it's to say, because Kaitlyn Clark is, you know, I

1798
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: mean you're talking about the best, one of the best,

1799
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: if not the best players in the league. I mean,

1800
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: one of the best, and certainly for this team, the

1801
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: focal point of the team. But at the same time,

1802
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: they have had players that have played well in her absence.

1803
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying because of her absence, but they've had

1804
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: players that have played well in her absence, and they're

1805
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: starting to kind of round into form a little bit

1806
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: with that, right.

1807
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Sophie Cunningham's play has certainly stepped up,

1808
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: especially now that she's in the starting lineup. She's made

1809
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: multiple threes and I forget the exact number. I think

1810
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: it's like five or six consecutive games. The fever of

1811
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 2: finding stability and consistent production nightly from Kelsey Mitchell, who

1812
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: was second in the WN scoring this month, and she

1813
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: has the possibility of being first depending on what kind

1814
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: of output she has tonight, the only player who scored

1815
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: more points. And it's like we're talking about like decimal

1816
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 2: points here, Jake. Okay, not to bring back numbers here,

1817
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 2: but it's like less than you know, five half a points,

1818
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: less than half a point between her and Asia Wilson.

1819
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,839
Speaker 2: So my guess is that if she has another terrific

1820
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: game like she did on Sunday against Chicago where she

1821
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: scored thirty five points, then you're looking at the w

1822
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: player of the month potentially.

1823
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 1: The again game gets underway tonight, you are doing the

1824
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: pre and post game. Is that correct?

1825
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: That is right, six forty five pre game coverage right

1826
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: here on the fan John Nolan and Briogas at seven o'clock.

1827
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so everything gets underway tonight, six forty five. You

1828
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: can hear that coverage. Debbie Antonelli joining us on the program.

1829
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: That will be thirty five minutes from now. Off day

1830
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: for the Colts. But that is not to say that

1831
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: we don't have things to discuss. We'll let you know

1832
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: what those things are next. You know, one thing, Colts

1833
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: off day, and there are a couple of storylines to

1834
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that we're going to get into

1835
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: here in just a second. My name is Jay Query.

1836
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison the other voice you have in his program.

1837
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: How is Querrying Company here in ninety three five and

1838
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: one oh seven five, the fan, the company itself, all

1839
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: of you, and we think all of you that take

1840
01:30:58,240 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: time out of your day to listen to this program.

1841
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 2: How are you, Jake? We have one hour left?

1842
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: What's that?

1843
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: I said? How are you Jake? We have one hour left?

1844
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 10: Uh?

1845
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 3: You know what.

1846
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I can't complain yesterday by the way, Yeah,

1847
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, you know,

1848
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean okay?

1849
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 10: Uh?

1850
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were down at Cincinnati to watch the Dodgers

1851
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: and the Reds, right, yeah with my mom? Yes, how

1852
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: hot was it? By the way, So it was pretty

1853
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: hot there for the when we got there, we got

1854
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: there ninety minutes before because that's when Gate's opened. It saw

1855
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of Dodgers batting practice, walked around God's

1856
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Country that is Great American Ballpark for a little bit,

1857
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: and then the sun went behind the stadium, and then

1858
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 1: once it got dark, it got hotter again.

1859
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: It's like there was an area from like the you know,

1860
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: what's a second it's ning to the seventh inning, it

1861
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: was okay, and then for some reason the eighth they

1862
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: just boom and got hot again. And I was like,

1863
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: what in the world why the humidity went up? I mean,

1864
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 2: it'd be my guests, I'd be mine as well.

1865
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: Okay, here's an unpopular opinion for.

1866
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: You for me. Why are you saying I have an

1867
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 2: unpopular opinion?

1868
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm off for an unpopular opinion for your ingestion.

1869
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 2: Okay.

1870
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: As mentioned many times, I grew up a Reds fan. Yes,

1871
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: that was the first team for probably not unlike most

1872
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: people in Indianapolis. That was the first major league team

1873
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 1: that I saw play. My dad was in the steel

1874
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: business and his company had season tickets to the Reds,

1875
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: so we'd get, you know, five or six games a

1876
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: summer probably.

1877
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: So what did he steal jake.

1878
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: People's money that wanted to buy aluminum.

1879
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 3: Oh.

1880
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Interesting, And my dad actually sold a lot of the

1881
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 1: steel that is in Turn two of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

1882
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: He sold a lot of the steel that went into

1883
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: the building of the Hoosier Dome. And so at any rate,

1884
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: we would go to Reds games and I loved it.

1885
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: And yes, this is a childhood nostalgia speaking, I am

1886
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: well aware of the fact that Riverfront Coliseum was a

1887
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: riverfront stadium excuse me, was a dump. It was a

1888
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: cookie cutter stadium. You know, you had the red, yellow,

1889
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,879
Speaker 1: green sea which was kind of fun. The blue seats,

1890
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, were really good seats. There was nothing about

1891
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: it that was special. It looked almost identical to Bush

1892
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Stadium in Saint Louis, with the exception of the obviously

1893
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: the kind of arts configurations on top of Bush Stadium.

1894
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: It looked the same as Three River Stadium in Pittsburgh,

1895
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: where I've been, you know, it was the Fulton County Stadium.

1896
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 1: It was the cookie cutter multi purpose stadiums. But nostalgically speaking,

1897
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: it was special to me because just that's the place

1898
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: where I went and saw so many games when they

1899
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: built Great American Ballpark, and it was weird for a

1900
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: while there, like seeing you know, it was when they

1901
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: were transferring from one to the other and seeing the

1902
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: development of it there. But when they built Great American Ballpark,

1903
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: I had just so many like hopes about what it

1904
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: would look like, and you know, whatever else, I think

1905
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: it is the most disappointing. Every time I go to it,

1906
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, it feels like a state put together by Ikea.

1907
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Like it's just like a Lego I don't know. It

1908
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: feels like a generic there's no character to it. I

1909
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: know that like the to me, now, you tell me

1910
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, Eddie. Obviously for you though, that probably

1911
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: is the first place that you watch games, right.

1912
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it is.

1913
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I just like it doesn't. I thought they had an

1914
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 1: opportunity to really build something unique and special, and there's

1915
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: nothing about that stadium that is either.

1916
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: I would say the one thing I've been to stadiums

1917
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 2: that is one of the few where I can walk

1918
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: along the concourse and still be able to watch the game.

1919
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Fair Okay, fair point.

1920
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: Whereas if I'm at actually can't do that at a

1921
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 2: Cults game, right right, Well, yeah, if I'm at the

1922
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 2: concourse on like another ballpark, I don't have the ability

1923
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: to just be able to look to my left or

1924
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: look to my right, like, oh, that's what's going on

1925
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 2: in the game.

1926
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1927
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, you certainly can do

1928
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: that here at Victory Field. You can do that at Yeah,

1929
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a good point. And I don't

1930
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: even know there were there were spots where you couldn't

1931
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: even do that at river Front. It was kind of weird.

1932
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: The way it was laid out, so that's fair, and

1933
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: you can walk around it, I mean, and there are Listen,

1934
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's a terrible stadium. I just

1935
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: thought there was nothing about it. I mean, the you know,

1936
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the stacks out in the outfield, I mean, I know,

1937
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: it's powerful. Yeah, I mean you know, and you can

1938
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: see a little bit of the river. So that's cool.

1939
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, but I do still like the Reds. But

1940
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I realize now as I'm an older person, I like

1941
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: the nostalgia of the Reds more so than I even

1942
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:31,799
Speaker 1: like the Reds themselves well.

1943
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 2: In large part because that's where their entire franchise success

1944
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: is like totally right.

1945
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, in your lifetime it's been how did you

1946
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: become a Reds fan just because it's the local team

1947
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: through osmosis? Because they I mean, they have not had

1948
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of success in your lifetime, for sure.

1949
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 2: My dad.

1950
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Colts off day today and back on the practice field tomorrow.

1951
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: They have a night practice tomorrow, Is that correct?

1952
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Yep? First, every night practice a great not great American.

1953
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Ball, A true night practice. They have had late afternoon practices,

1954
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: but this is a true night practice. Grand Park up

1955
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: in Westfield, and it is cool up there for sure.

1956
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: Here are the things to keep an eye on eight

1957
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: pm to ten pm. Make sure you take the bug spray.

1958
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: You're not kidding there, You know what do you want

1959
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: to know? A bug spray?

1960
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 2: Hint you get you get the Centronello bracelets or something

1961
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: instead of bug spray.

1962
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Really well, that sounds convenient. I was going to go

1963
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: with this Avon Skinso Soft, which is a lotion. If

1964
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 1: you put that on, it has a natural repellent on it.

1965
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: And that is a well kept secret or a little

1966
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: known secret about Avon Skinso Soft if they still make it.

1967
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: The other is and this is very disgusting to do,

1968
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: but I think it does work. Before you were like,

1969
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: if you're to camp out, take two shots of vinegar.

1970
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Now that might be an old wives tale, but somebody

1971
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: tell me if they've ever heard that. You take two

1972
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: shots of vinegar and then it actually seeps through your

1973
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: pores and yeah, I mean you smell disgusting, but mosquitoes

1974
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: don't like it. So you have that going for you,

1975
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: which is nice. But the Colts camp tomorrow, here's what

1976
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: you want to look for. You want to look at

1977
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the cornerback position. What's happening in that battle

1978
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: because Jalen Jones was getting a lot of competition from

1979
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: Justin Wally. Justin Wally, the rookie out of Minnesota, might

1980
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: actually have been at this point holding down the starting

1981
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: spot at that corner position. But Jalen Jones was and

1982
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: is still a guy that I think has shown a

1983
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: lot of flash young player year three. But yesterday, at

1984
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: the end of practice, he went down with what appears

1985
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 1: to be a hamstring injury, and so you want to

1986
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 1: keep an eye on what his availability will be. In

1987
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: addition to that, the third member of that battle is

1988
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:56,959
Speaker 1: Juju Brentz, and Juju Brentz, even though it was not visible,

1989
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: it later was stated that he also has a hamstring

1990
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: issue that he is dealing with. So there's that number one.

1991
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Number two Michael Pittman Junior yesterday groin injury into practice.

1992
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Don't know the severity of that, and Pittman Junior is

1993
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: one that has kind of battled through some injury issues

1994
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But one thing we've learned

1995
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: is that that dude is tough and is willing to

1996
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 1: go out there and give it as all. Because he

1997
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: played with pretty serious back injuries. I mean, he's and

1998
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: he has been a solid, solid, reliable player obviously at

1999
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position as well. Alec Pierce is still

2000
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 1: chasing a new contract. Bernard Rayman got his, Alec Pierce

2001
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: one would assume will be the next but that position

2002
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: also It may well be that the Colts Brass, before

2003
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: offering Alec Pierce a big deal, is waiting to see

2004
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: what happens with the situation with Adie Mitchell and whether

2005
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: or not Adie Mitchell is able to come out of

2006
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: his shell a little bit, and if yesterday is indication

2007
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: he finally is starting to turn that corner. And Adie

2008
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell yesterday had probably from a camp standpoint, his best

2009
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: day as a pro. But what can you make of that,

2010
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to successful practices, what can

2011
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: you take from that? That's but you'd rather have that

2012
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: than have the guy be, you know, in absentia when

2013
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: it comes to practice. And then you have the situation

2014
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: that Joela Erickson mentioned earlier, which I found interesting because

2015
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 1: I really did think this situation had already sorted itself out.

2016
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: But Danny Pinter now is starting to get some reps

2017
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: at the center position and Bordolini, who I thought was

2018
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: a kind of a solid go and there was not

2019
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: much debate there. That battle seems to be heating up

2020
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. One position that's of interest to me,

2021
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Eddie is that of the linebackers, because we haven't really

2022
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: heard much about linebackers at all, and in this defense

2023
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: with lou Anarumo, and I know that it is a

2024
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: defense that is very reliant on aggression and a lot

2025
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: of different looks from the defensive backfield situation and you're

2026
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 1: in getting after it with your front foor but presenting

2027
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: different looks. And you know, we know Zire Franklin is

2028
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: a guy that stockpiled a bunch of stats for them

2029
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. But we have not

2030
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 1: heard a lot about elsewhere, just the overall standout or

2031
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: lack thereof at other positions from the linebacking corps.

2032
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 2: You know where what other position group? We haven't heard

2033
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: anything from either kicker, Well, no, that's a battle defensive end.

2034
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about you know, layout to a

2035
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: Latsu quitty pay or good good point Sampson Abacoman pressing

2036
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 2: it all.

2037
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't it kind of feel though, like that's one

2038
01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: that you. We probably haven't heard as much about that

2039
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: one because you feel the most confident there. I think,

2040
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: quitt he pay, quit he pay?

2041
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 3: To me.

2042
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: The Alex Smith rule. If you're a regular listener of

2043
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 1: this program, first my apologies and secondly.

2044
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: We welcome you.

2045
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: That's right, we thank you. But you've heard me mention

2046
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: a lot the Alex Smith rule. And that's the example

2047
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: I always give. You know, Alex Smith, when he was

2048
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: drafted as the number one overall pick in the draft

2049
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: and was drafted by San Francisco, underachieved in San Francisco

2050
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: based on what you would expect from a number one

2051
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: overall pick, and then he gets a new lease on

2052
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: life both in Kansas City and Washington and turned into

2053
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: a really good player. And for those two franchises he

2054
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: was a really good player and a really good value

2055
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: because they did not put the investment into him that

2056
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: San Francisco had. So you are judged sometimes based on

2057
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: where and how you are acquired and quity pay because

2058
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: he was a first round pick. And I can't remember

2059
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 1: actually now that I say that, I always get this confused.

2060
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: I know, Alec Pierce, this is the case. Was quit

2061
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: he pay a first round pick, or was he the

2062
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 1: first pick that they took in a year where they

2063
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: didn't have a first rounder?

2064
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 2: He was a first round.

2065
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: Okay, He's been a solid player, not great, and when

2066
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: you look at first round picks, you expect him to

2067
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 1: be great certain positions. When you take a guy in

2068
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: the first round, you assume you never hear their name

2069
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 1: if you're going to draft, and I think Ryan Kelly

2070
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: is another one. Might not have been a first rounder,

2071
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: but was the first pick taken in a year where

2072
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 1: they didn't have a first round. I could be wrong

2073
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: in that as well, but Ryan Kelly at the very least,

2074
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 1: like you know, late twenties, whatever it was when you

2075
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: drafted Ryan Kelly. The center position is one that's kind

2076
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: of a thankless position. But if you don't hear the

2077
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: guy's name a lot, it means he's pretty darn good.

2078
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Saturday was a little bit different because

2079
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 1: he was a color personality and Ryan Kelly was a

2080
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 1: very mature spokesperson for that franchise and that team. But

2081
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 1: in terms of his play, you know, you don't analyze

2082
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: it a lot because it's just solid and consistent and

2083
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting. And I think that there

2084
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: was with Quitty Pay. The defensive end position is one

2085
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: that solid play equates into headline or big name stuff,

2086
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been that, but he's been solid. The

2087
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner is you know, you hear his name a

2088
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: lot because he is in an upper echelon. Guy Pay

2089
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: is an interesting one because is he he is one

2090
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: that could go elsewhere and have if he had the

2091
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: exact same numbers he has right now, then people would

2092
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: probably say if they signed him as a free agent

2093
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: or something, They're like, yeah, he's been good. He's a

2094
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: good player. But you feel a little disappointed by it

2095
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: because you anticipated and we are so in this market

2096
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and in this media standpoint and from the fan base standpoint,

2097
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: we are spoiled because and I know one of them

2098
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: was a late round pick, but we're spoiled because we

2099
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: just assumed that having to bookend pass rushers that collapse

2100
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: in from either side was the norm, because it became

2101
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: the norm to us. And when you've got Freenie and

2102
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,799
Speaker 1: mathis on either side, I mean two heat seeking missiles.

2103
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: You know that became the norm. And then it's like

2104
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You've been chasing it ever since. But

2105
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: those are the things.

2106
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 5: You know.

2107
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: We haven't talked a lot, Eddie, to be honest with

2108
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: you about the kicker position, but that's one that do

2109
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 1: but kickers in the NFL are kickers to a franchise.

2110
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: There are not many areas where fantasy football is real football.

2111
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: That's why it's called fantasy football. But having said that,

2112
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 1: in fantasy football, do you play fantasy football?

2113
01:44:59,320 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 7: Eddie?

2114
01:44:59,520 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 6: Oh?

2115
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.

2116
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Are you one of these guys that has like seven teams?

2117
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: I'll have like four or five.

2118
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: You have four or five teams?

2119
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them will be the show League like

2120
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: last year.

2121
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: So do you have team names?

2122
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 2: I haven't drafted yet.

2123
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: No, No, no team. Do you have a name for your teams?

2124
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 2: I haven't drafted yet.

2125
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 3: No?

2126
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you call your team something.

2127
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 2: I will when I draft? Yeah? I wait to make

2128
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: my team names until I draft because I like to

2129
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 2: base my team name off of somebody I drafted.

2130
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: Wait, so you're saying that if you were an NFL owner,

2131
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 1: give me a franchise at the top of your head

2132
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 1: not named the Colts Cincinnati Bengals. So if you were

2133
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, you would petition to change it to

2134
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Burroughs. No so like for example, or you'd

2135
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 1: call it like the Chase and one Ninnati Chase. And

2136
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 1: one league I have Bjon Robinson, So my team name

2137
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: is bet Bath of Pajan. Okay, it's not bad.

2138
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 2: And then there was one league where I had Elik Neighbors,

2139
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: and I said, neighbors, what's that again? Neighbors touched my pinnix.

2140
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that that seems not only uncomfortable, but like

2141
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: some sort of a bad, you know, special presentation after

2142
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: school special, you know what I mean, Like Conrad Bain

2143
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: is gonna come out beforehand and tell people that it's

2144
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable subject, but it's an important show to watch.

2145
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: So you wait until you have your roster and then

2146
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: you come up with your team name. Yes, now, okay,

2147
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of this. The very first fantasy football

2148
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: league I ever did. Okay Gunner from q ninety five

2149
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: years ago. I worked at the cigar store and broad

2150
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 1: A Bowl. This was nineteen ninety probably five, maybe six.

2151
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: I worked a cigar store in Broaderpool. We had a

2152
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Speaker 1: number of customer great dudes. Paul Oaford was one of

2153
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the guy's names. Joel Johnson, who was a great dude,

2154
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: was one of them. Mark Barnhardt known as Barney. These

2155
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: guys were in a fantasy league and they would come

2156
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: in the cigar store and they're like, Hey, do you

2157
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: want to play in our fantasy football league? And literally

2158
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is fantasy football? Well? You would draft guys,

2159
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, no one. It was the brand that this

2160
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 1: was dial up internet days. It was so primitive that

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01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: each week Gunner would print out the results and then

2162
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: walk around to the different places and deliver them. So

2163
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: every Monday, Gunner would come into the cigar store and

2164
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: deliver me my fantasy football results because it took too

2165
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 1: long to download on the internet.

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01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

2167
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: But the one thing, and this was the fun thing

2168
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: about it, the one thing that was the rule of

2169
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: this league was you had to your team had to

2170
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: be named by location for a city that didn't have

2171
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: a pro sports team with a name matching like somehow

2172
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 1: that went with the city. So the very first year

2173
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: that I did it, I was the Charleston Cavalry. Not bad, right,

2174
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: pretty strong. Second year I did it and I even

2175
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: had a logo made the second year and I was

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01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: so proud of this the rule was that unless you

2177
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: like finished first year division, you had to completely you

2178
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: had to move your franchise. So year two I was

2179
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 1: the Baton Rouge Bayonets, and the logo was the B

2180
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: and the R and the two little swivels of the

2181
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: R the two whatever you call it or the R

2182
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 1: were two cross Bayonets. It was so I mean, it

2183
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: was badass, if you want me to be honest with you,

2184
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: But I didn't have to wait for my roster. But

2185
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: at any rate, when you do a roster in fantasy football, eddie,

2186
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: are you like most people where unless you are getting

2187
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: one of the like say three to four premier kickers,

2188
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 1: then a lot of times what you do in fantasy

2189
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: league is like you draft your kicker in the eighth

2190
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: or tenth round or whatever, and literally you just hold

2191
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 1: on to them until they're on a bye wee and

2192
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: you don't even keep them on the bye week. You

2193
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: drop them and you just pick up whatever carre. Yeah, Okay,

2194
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: Miami's kicker is available and take him this week.

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01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 2: It depends on you know what type of If you

2196
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 2: have Brandon Aubrey, like I said, if you've got the

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01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 2: top three or five, I get. But I'm with him there.

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01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Colts went last year from a kicker standpoint,

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01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: the Colts went with the we feel we have a

2200
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 1: top guy kicker, and they went out and they signed

2201
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Matt Gay two years ago or whatever it was, and

2202
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,520
Speaker 1: they gave him a huge contract, huge free agency contract.

2203
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: And one of the things about Matt Gay that to

2204
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: me was concerning is the wrong word, but I think

2205
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 1: had to be considered is simply the fact that Matt

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01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 1: Gay there was precedent there. And I mean this with

2207
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 1: the utmost respect to him, but I mean we had

2208
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: him on the show when he first signed here, and

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Speaker 1: I talked to him about this. Matt Gay had had

2210
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:02,839
Speaker 1: some challenges in his profession career. There is no position

2211
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: that is more I think like mental than kicking. And

2212
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: he was open about the fact, and I commend him

2213
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: for it. He was open about the fact that he

2214
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 1: had had challenges from a mental standpoint when it came

2215
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: to kicking earlier in his career. And then once he

2216
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: got over that, he was one of the best kickers

2217
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: in the league, the most accurate. It's why he got

2218
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: a huge contract. But then once he just once he

2219
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: got into kind of a rut again and started missing kicks,

2220
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: and I think there might have been some injury there.

2221
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is again when Gay was missing kicks

2222
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,919
Speaker 1: and Chris Baler was asked about it, Chris Ballard was adamant,

2223
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: this is not a concern, not a concern. The guy's

2224
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 1: a good kicker. He just you know, he's working through

2225
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: I think it was a groin or whatever, which I mean,

2226
01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I understand that's pretty severe for a kicker. And obviously

2227
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 1: the concern was there because they decided to go in

2228
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: another direction. So now that they have an open kicking

2229
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: competition and one of those two is a guy that's

2230
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: been with them for you know, off and on and

2231
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: through camps, you wonder if they're not going with the

2232
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: mentality now or with the you know, Spencer Schrader I

2233
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 1: think is going to be the guy. But you wonder

2234
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: if they're not kind of going with that fantasy football

2235
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 1: approach of just like yeah, you know what I mean,

2236
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: like we we have to put our eggs in other baskets.

2237
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 1: We've got to focus on other positions, and let's just

2238
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: bring in somebody at the kicker position that you know,

2239
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: we're good at that.

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Speaker 2: Point, can you even name the other guy that's in

2241
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: the kicking competition with Spencer Trader.

2242
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: How many guesses are you gonna give me here, Eddie?

2243
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean as you'd like.

2244
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 1: Would you like to go? Are we going initials? Or

2245
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: are we just going straight up name? Are we going college?

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01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: You have me to tell you the college as well,

2247
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Spencer Strader? Would you agree is the guy?

2248
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 3: Right?

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01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: I would assume so, I mean, that's who we assume

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01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy. Okay, but I mean

2251
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: you're wanting to know, and you're you're throwing me a

2252
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: curveball here because his last name is very tricky, but

2253
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: I just call him Ma Addox.

2254
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 2: Okay, is it.

2255
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 1: Trulio? Am I saying?

2256
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 2: Or something like that?

2257
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Temple?

2258
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: Right?

2259
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yes, started at Austin p then went to Temple.

2260
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Now are you going to give me any credit there

2261
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: at all?

2262
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure you just looked it up over there. You

2263
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 2: can go back and look at the monitor. You can,

2264
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 2: you can review the tape. I don't want to look

2265
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 2: at your search, your tree. I don't know where you're.

2266
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 1: Looking up over there? Watches. Do you know what's in

2267
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 1: this noggin? I mean, I mean, honestly, I don't even

2268
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: want to know that. I don't even want to know

2269
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: what's in that noggin. You know, Kylon yesterday told me

2270
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 1: she's impressed by my memory.

2271
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 2: Oh goodness island. Rule number one don't compliment.

2272
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: Shit told me that twice, so I wouldn't forget.

2273
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 2: Rule number one, don't compliment Chack. Why not? Because then

2274
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 2: it's just because I don't need any more of it.

2275
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: As what you're saying, Yeah, because.

2276
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm used to it.

2277
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: Before you know it, your head's going to be the

2278
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 2: size of mine. If you get more comments like.

2279
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: That, what sized hat do you wear? Large? It is?

2280
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: It is definitely that anyway, those are the things to

2281
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: look out for in Colts camp. And you know, with

2282
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: the off day to day we can go on and

2283
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: on and on about that, but I think tomorrow it'll

2284
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: be cool. It is very fun. If you've not been

2285
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: to Grand Park, it's an amazing facility and the Colts,

2286
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: of course, their training camp is right there. I kind

2287
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: of feel bad for the Indie eleven because the Indie

2288
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 1: eleven the other day when I got there, the Indie

2289
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: eleven were in the middle of practice and you've got

2290
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're out there trying to practice and the

2291
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: coach is telling out to them like different formations, and

2292
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 1: they were working on them all while you could hear

2293
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: like the roar of the crowd because Ady Mitchell just

2294
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: caught his fifth straight pass. But at night in particular,

2295
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 1: I'm curious of this, and people, let me know if

2296
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: you notice it.

2297
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 2: Proud of you for not making some joke there about

2298
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 2: ad Mental just catching a pass. Well that too, I mean, listen,

2299
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: you take what you.

2300
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: Can get here, right, yeah, but I'm curious tomorrow night

2301
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: for the night practice. When people arrive and they're walking

2302
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 1: into Grand Park, it is fascinating because you can tell

2303
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,719
Speaker 1: this is an area that was literally farmland like fifteen

2304
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: years ago, and there's one and I'm always proud of

2305
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 1: the holdout. I'm always proud of the holdout. Like when

2306
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: you go to you know, you're in some suburban area

2307
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: and there's a strip mall and then you see one

2308
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: little ranch house that's just surrounded by a bed bathroom

2309
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: beyond or bed bathroom bijan if Eddie owns it, and

2310
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 1: a Chucky cheese and then oddly a hustler store all

2311
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: right there, and then there's one ranch house and you're like,

2312
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 1: you know what that guy did not sell out. Good

2313
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 1: for him, he stood his ground. There's somebody there in

2314
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: Grand Park and they've got a rooster and the rooster

2315
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: when I would do the morning show and we'd show

2316
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: up the rooster, b what do you call crowing? Is

2317
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: that what you call when a rooster calling?

2318
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 2: Calling?

2319
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: It was a rooster call. I think that's right, Yeah,

2320
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: whatever you call it. So, and he's he's getting after

2321
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: it in the morning, letting everybody know he's awake. And

2322
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: then I noticed the other day when I was leaving.

2323
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's if his body's on specific

2324
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: time or what, but he was doing it again. And

2325
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: so I'm curious if he's doing it at night or

2326
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: does a rooster sleep at night.

2327
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm also curious if there's gonna be enough parking. Jake,

2328
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: you know it's Thursday. These high school are not high school,

2329
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: but these.

2330
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Travel ball tournaments there are big tournaments going on. They

2331
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: start shirt and they start on Thursday. Oh they do. Yeah,

2332
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: but that's on the baseball diamonds, right, I know. But still, Jake,

2333
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean Grand Park. You know, it's it's a couple

2334
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: of you got lot you got Lot B, you got

2335
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Lot C, and then you got lot D and E

2336
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: and it's a lot E is what you want to park?

2337
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 2: You got all you got? I you got J as well.

2338
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you spend a lot of time up there?

2339
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 2: I played up there a time or two. I had

2340
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: a brother that played up there, and had a sister

2341
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: that played up there. Oh yeah.

2342
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: Grand Park by the way on the boundary of the

2343
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: former three J Thunder Island, which is now Finally they

2344
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: took it down and my buddy Greg Bell and I

2345
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 1: went through and found the remnants of it like three

2346
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 1: years ago, and it was eerie seeing where the water

2347
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 1: slides were in the go kart track. But now they're

2348
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: talking about building another water park up near there, and

2349
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, why did you tear down the one before?

2350
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: It was great, it was fabulous, but I guess you

2351
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 1: had to build Grand Park. Did you ever hit a

2352
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: home run there? How many career home runs did you

2353
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: have in high school? None?

2354
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Really?

2355
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: What was your batting average?

2356
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 2: Like two seventy eighty?

2357
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: Not bad?

2358
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: Also, Decater as one of the biggest parks in the state,

2359
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: so they do. The dimensions are almost identical to Victory Field.

2360
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Really, so what what school has the shortest like it

2361
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: almost seems like in high school they should have a

2362
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 1: uniform dimensions, right, I mean, it seems like that would

2363
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:53,879
Speaker 1: be a fair way of doing Evian.

2364
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: Christian had a beautiful field, but it was like super

2365
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: short to left and right, and it was deep in

2366
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 2: the alleys left, center, right, center, and center. Martinsville is

2367
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 2: a short one. North Central is a short one.

2368
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 5: You know.

2369
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: Interesting you mentioned that when I was in North Central.

2370
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 1: When I was in high school Moorsville, they got every

2371
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: baseball player four foot eleven turf field and then the

2372
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: ball just fly.

2373
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 3: Out of there.

2374
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Now, I had no idea that Whiteland has a massive,

2375
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 2: he massive field as well.

2376
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 1: Fotball helmets.

2377
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that.

2378
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: You've seen the subtlety in the Whiteland helmet design, right,

2379
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: I know. Pull it up. Once you see it, you'll

2380
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: never unsee it. Pull up the Whiteland High School football

2381
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: logo on their helmets, and once you see it, you'll

2382
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 1: never unsee it. It's amazing. Whoever designed it is a genius.

2383
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: It is amazing.

2384
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I see it. Things right out Warriors.

2385
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 1: Yes, it's written in the headdress of the design. It's brilliant.

2386
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: Debbie Antonelli, who is also brilliant will join us next.

2387
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: The Fever are in action tonight, taking on the Phoenix Mercury.

2388
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: You know, when you really think about it, when you

2389
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: get fever and mercury in the same building, things are hot, right.

2390
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 1: The same for when they face Connecticut. You've got the

2391
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Fever in the sun. Yeah, imagine that fortune. Yeah, I mean,

2392
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, the mercury in the sun. I mean I

2393
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: never really thought about this until now, but it makes

2394
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: perfect sense because I don't know if you know, there's

2395
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 1: not Eddie but outside right now, especially with that corn

2396
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: sweat one hundred and sixteen degrees.

2397
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Tell you what the mercury is up there on the thermometer.

2398
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 1: It is. But the Fever are hoping that their hot

2399
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 1: play can continue. They've won two in a row. But

2400
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: there are a lot of question mark, question marks, wrong word,

2401
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of things to discuss though, because of where

2402
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: they navigate now through. Without Caitlin Clark joining us now

2403
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: on the program, a return guest to the show and

2404
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: always happy to have her. Debbie Antonelli, who you see

2405
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: doing television work, is the analyst for the Fever. Debbie,

2406
01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: how are you?

2407
01:58:59,520 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 4: What's up?

2408
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 10: Jake? And Yeah, let's hope that there's a lot of

2409
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 10: hot hands in the gym tonight, that their offense is

2410
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 10: fast and furious.

2411
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get to that because and I've

2412
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: talked about this with Stephanie White, but I want your

2413
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, DeBie, in terms of the way that

2414
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: you watch it and how they're navigating this, and that

2415
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: is there is no denying and we know this that

2416
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark is the straw that mixes the drink for

2417
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 1: the fever in a perfect situation. But when you remove that,

2418
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: then you have this kind of balance between sustaining until

2419
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: she returns or if you don't know when that's going

2420
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 1: to be moving forward without her. And I know that

2421
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 1: that sounds ridiculous, but I think you get what I'm

2422
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: saying there. Let's begin with the first part. They have

2423
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: been able to play without her because they have utilized

2424
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: or taken advantage of what.

2425
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 4: Their overall team depth.

2426
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 10: Right now, Kelsey Mitchell's thirty one minutes a game, Aliah Boston.

2427
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 4: Thirty minutes a game. Everyone else is less than that.

2428
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 10: So I thought Stephanie White staff continue to do a

2429
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 10: great job of balancing out to change in the rhythm

2430
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 10: of the game and One of the ways you can

2431
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 10: do that is with the.

2432
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 4: Depth of the team, the schemes.

2433
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 10: You can call time out, you can substitute, There's a

2434
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 10: lot of things you can do to change the rhythm.

2435
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 10: But I think that they have done a really good

2436
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 10: job of keeping their depth as a focal point.

2437
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 1: And then the other question with that Debbie becomes when

2438
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark returns, and we can get into the win

2439
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 1: in a second, but when she does, clearly she is

2440
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: an elite player, But do you have to kind of

2441
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:38,919
Speaker 1: slowly reacclimate that because of getting used to or finding

2442
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 1: your way through without her in that lineup.

2443
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 10: I definitely think there's some acclamation to weeding her back in,

2444
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 10: if you will, And it seems like such a soft

2445
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 10: term to use. I mean, obviously, when you've got the

2446
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 10: elite level skill set, the all star power that Caitlin

2447
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 10: brings on the floor.

2448
02:00:59,320 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 4: When you look at.

2449
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 10: Her numbers, last year she took fourteen and a half

2450
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 10: shots a game.

2451
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 4: This year she's taking fifteen.

2452
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 10: It's not that big of a difference in terms of

2453
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 10: the number of shots, but her impact, her influence on pace,

2454
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 10: on space, and certainly and making everyone else better, which

2455
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 10: is hard to measure in any sort of statistical category.

2456
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 10: Those are things that you have to acclimate Caitlin into

2457
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 10: with the speed and the rhythm of the game.

2458
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 1: When you look Debbie, and this is going to sound

2459
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:31,200
Speaker 1: like I'm being critical, I please understand that's not where

2460
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 1: this is coming from. Okay, But when you look at

2461
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 1: for example, you know Kelsey Mitchell, who has played really

2462
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: well in the absence, and you talk about the fact

2463
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: that Aliah Buston becomes a little more focal in terms

2464
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: of their offense, and we know how gifted she can

2465
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: be on the low post, but is winning that way

2466
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: and playing that way without her sustainable.

2467
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,880
Speaker 10: I don't think that you, in the back of your

2468
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 10: mind believe that you're going to be at your best

2469
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 10: until you have Caitlin one hundred percent. So having said that,

2470
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,920
Speaker 10: I think the player have to take it to the

2471
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 10: next level.

2472
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 4: And everyone has done that.

2473
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 10: Now, does Aliah Boston get the same number of field

2474
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 10: goal attempts without Caitlin or does she catch the ball

2475
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 10: in the same quality of shot area that she's really

2476
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 10: good in.

2477
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 4: No, I would say that doesn't happen.

2478
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 10: But part of that is because of what Indiana runs

2479
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 10: and the offense that they run and Kelsey Mitchell is

2480
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 10: on fire. But she was on fire at this point

2481
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 10: last year. When you look at her numbers from last

2482
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 10: year to this year, she is sustaining that elite level play.

2483
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 10: I actually watched her today go through a shooting workout today, Jake.

2484
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 10: I mean, look, this is the morning of the game,

2485
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 10: and I'm watching Kelsey go through the different spots and

2486
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 10: shots that she's going to get on the floor, working

2487
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 10: on her footwork, working on her cuts and her different

2488
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 10: movements without the ball. Look, she sustains a high level

2489
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 10: of excellence. It's not a surprise to any of us

2490
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 10: that have been watching Kelsey for a long time what

2491
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 10: she's capable of doing. I thought she put up those

2492
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 10: same numbers on the floor with Caitlin. I think she's

2493
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 10: getting a chance to get a few more shots per

2494
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 10: game without Caitlin. That's a good thing for the Fever

2495
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 10: because they need her scoring to be able to win.

2496
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about Debbie Antonelli is our guest,

2497
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Indiana Fever. Caitlin Clark in terms

2498
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 1: of the number of shots that she was taking, and

2499
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 1: then we saw her shooting percentage really go down, especially

2500
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 1: from the outside. Do we have enough now that we

2501
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 1: can say that that is that that was injury related?

2502
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 10: Do you think I personally think so after watching Caitlin

2503
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 10: for as many years and knowing as a shooter that

2504
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 10: she certainly has the ability to self correct and she

2505
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 10: has the ability to get her muscle.

2506
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 4: Memory where it needs to be. I've talked about this

2507
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 4: with you before about shooters.

2508
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 5: You know, when your.

2509
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 10: Footwork and your base and your balance isn't what it

2510
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 10: needs to be. Just think about let your back hurts

2511
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 10: a little bit, or when your knee aches and you

2512
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 10: can't do the things that you typically do as a

2513
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 10: regular person.

2514
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 4: And then you compound that with.

2515
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 10: The types of injuries that she's had and how that

2516
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 10: affects her ability to navigate space on the floor. Maybe

2517
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 10: her step back isn't as far back as it's then

2518
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 10: maybe it's off by a little bit of a rhythm.

2519
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 10: There's certain things that shooters know about, you know, the

2520
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 10: bottom part of their shot versus the top part of

2521
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:10,880
Speaker 10: their shot, because there's two different things there. Right the

2522
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 10: bottom your footwork, your load to high, your load.

2523
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 4: Where you catch the ball.

2524
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 10: Then the top part where your hands are do you

2525
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 10: have to drop your hands on a pass or your

2526
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:22,800
Speaker 10: hands up, but where's her follow through? There's so many

2527
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 10: technical things that I don't worry about that stuff With Caitlin.

2528
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 10: I clearly think that injury has played a role in

2529
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 10: her not being able to shoot the ball as efficiently

2530
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 10: as she's done it in the past. But then we're

2531
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 10: at twenty six games, Jake, and she's played thirteen and

2532
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 10: she's missed thirteen. It's been in and out all year,

2533
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 10: so she personally has not been able to get in

2534
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 10: much of a rhythm.

2535
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Debbie when we talked, I talked to yesterday to Stephanie

2536
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 1: White about just the overall evolution of the WNBA and

2537
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 1: the number of different styles that coach White has to

2538
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 1: prepare for versus say, if you were coming up with

2539
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 1: game planning twenty years ago. Because the game has evolved,

2540
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 1: but it also the women's game has evolved. Has that

2541
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 1: trickled down to you now that we have an entire

2542
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: and I think it's easy to forget this. We have

2543
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 1: now college basketball players who have never known different than

2544
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 1: seeing women playing at the professional level. And to be

2545
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 1: someone sometimes you have to see someone. And if you

2546
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: look back at your playing career at NC State and

2547
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: you look at the style of college play today. Are

2548
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 1: we seeing now the overall level and versatility of the

2549
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: game at the college level being benefit from an entire

2550
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:40,120
Speaker 1: generation of seeing that example before them.

2551
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question.

2552
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 10: And that is a beautiful thing and a wonderful statement

2553
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 10: that we have incredible skill set at the elite level

2554
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 10: with the best players in the world showcasing that on

2555
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 10: a platform that everyone can consume. And you're watching all

2556
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 10: these little young girls come up that are learning how

2557
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 10: to play the game because emulating what a Caitlin Clark

2558
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 10: might do, or what in the Leeah Boston or Kelsey

2559
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 10: Mitchell might do.

2560
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 4: I think that's a wonderful thing.

2561
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 10: And yes, back in the day, we didn't run any

2562
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 10: ball screens. We ran everything off the ball. And now

2563
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 10: you do see a trickle down from what comes internationally

2564
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 10: or NBA internationally.

2565
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 4: Into the women's game.

2566
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 10: And you know what we have as a hidden jewel

2567
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 10: or gem on our staff in Lynn Dunn. There are

2568
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 10: a lot of intricacies that Lynn Dunn has brought to

2569
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 10: the game that we have all learned from. She brought

2570
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 10: horns from the NBA into the WNBA. She inverted on

2571
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 10: out of bounce plays defensively, which is something that no

2572
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 10: one was doing. So yes, I do think that there

2573
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 10: is a pass through and I do think it is

2574
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 10: passing through and that is part of the reason why

2575
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 10: our game is at such a good level right now

2576
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 10: and the product is so good. That's why the young players,

2577
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 10: the rookie class can come in and have an immediate impact.

2578
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 10: It's fun to watch, it's exciting, and it's really good

2579
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 10: for the future growth of the league.

2580
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to take a road trip with Linda. I'd

2581
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,879
Speaker 1: like from here, just drive like from here to Wyoming

2582
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 1: with Lynn Dunn. It would be non stop hilarity, would

2583
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: it not.

2584
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 10: Lynn Dunn can tell you what Los Angeles and or

2585
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 10: Chicago might have run for Candas Parker in the third

2586
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 10: quarter on an out of bounds play in.

2587
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 2: The second Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.

2588
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 10: Jotted down and she has such incredible knowledge. She is

2589
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 10: such a savant when it comes to the game and

2590
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 10: the intricacies of the game. And she's, you know, serving

2591
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 10: a very important role with the Indiana Fever, which she

2592
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 10: has served for many years.

2593
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Debbie Antonelli our guest. Of course, you see her

2594
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 1: on Fever Games as the television analyst for the Indiana

2595
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 1: Fever Fever and Action Tonight taken on Phoenix pregame with

2596
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 1: Eddie at six forty five. Debbie, you know I'm going

2597
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 1: to ask you this before we let you go, and

2598
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: this is something we have discussed before, but I want

2599
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: to revisit it. I think it's important. This is in

2600
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Indiana right now, I mean literally this week. Teachers are

2601
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,600
Speaker 1: back in school, kids are getting ready to go back

2602
02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: in school at most of the schools here. For people

2603
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 1: that are listening that have young students that are getting

2604
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 1: ready to go back to school, we just talked about

2605
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 1: the importance of sometimes to be something. You've got to

2606
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: see something. And for those kids that are going back

2607
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 1: to school that are going back as your son Frankie did,

2608
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 1: in special ed that want to be and have visions

2609
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 1: and dreams and hopes and aspirations just like kids that

2610
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 1: are in the normal general education classes. What can somebody

2611
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: who is a parent of a general education student say

2612
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 1: to or encourage to their child right now at the

2613
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:34,120
Speaker 1: start of the school year to get things started on

2614
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 1: the right foot for those that are in special education,

2615
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 1: that can allow those special ed kids to see what

2616
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 1: it is that they two can be. What can a

2617
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: general ed student be encouraged to do or say?

2618
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 10: Jake, this is one of the reasons why I will

2619
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 10: always say yes to having a chance to be on

2620
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 10: your show because you have always allowed me to talk

2621
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 10: hoops and then use my basketball platform to share what's

2622
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 10: really important and what basketball has taught me and how

2623
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 10: we've gone about raising Frankie. Today, ironically, is Frankie's twenty

2624
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 10: eighth birthday.

2625
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 1: Outstanding.

2626
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 10: My son, Yes with Down syndrome is living independently with support,

2627
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 10: holding two jobs now granted he works a three or

2628
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 10: four hour shift, and he has friends that he socializes

2629
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 10: with and he has a full, complete, living his best life.

2630
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 10: It is a village that is required to have somebody

2631
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 10: with special needs to be able to live a full,

2632
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:37,760
Speaker 10: complete life that is healthy and has options to make

2633
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 10: healthy choices and can thrive. If you're a parent and

2634
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 10: you have a kid, and you haven't talked about tolerating

2635
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:49,320
Speaker 10: differences and showing empathy and working on your emotional like

2636
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:52,400
Speaker 10: you even as a young person, these are things that

2637
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 10: as you grow, you're going to be a part of

2638
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 10: society that is ever changing with people that are different.

2639
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 10: Everyone has something Everyone has something different if you just

2640
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,840
Speaker 10: take the time. There's two cliches that I often quote

2641
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 10: that I do not like. Do not judge a book

2642
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 10: by its cover. And you don't know anything about somebody

2643
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:10,600
Speaker 10: till you.

2644
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:11,919
Speaker 4: Walk a mile on their shoes.

2645
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 10: If you're making a judgment, take a step back, take

2646
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,400
Speaker 10: a deep breath and think about what you would do

2647
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 10: if you were that parent of that child with special needs.

2648
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 10: How would you approach them and what would you say

2649
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 10: to them? And how can you help everyone around you.

2650
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 4: Be happy, healthy and involved. That's the way we've raised

2651
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 4: our three boys. Those are the three most important things.

2652
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 10: That we talked about all the time. And making good

2653
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 10: choices and making a good choice would be making a

2654
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 10: new friend.

2655
02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, sometimes as simple as hey,

2656
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 1: you want to sit with us at lunch today, That

2657
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: can go a long long way, right it can?

2658
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 10: And then if you can follow up with it, because

2659
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 10: it's just like any other networking opportunity, if you spin

2660
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 10: it back, you know, we're all trying to network to

2661
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 10: advance whatever we want to do.

2662
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,920
Speaker 4: So you meet new people so that you can.

2663
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:01,720
Speaker 10: Build a bigger circle. Think about that as a kid

2664
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 10: at lunch. If you invite him to sit down that

2665
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 10: don't let that be the only time or the one

2666
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 10: time you do it. Continue to invite that kid to

2667
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 10: do something else with you, and maybe it's something outside

2668
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 10: of school, because that will matter more than you ever realize,

2669
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 10: and it could have an.

2670
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 4: Indelible impression on yourself.

2671
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:20,320
Speaker 10: It's not just about the kid with special needs, it's

2672
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:21,400
Speaker 10: about everybody else.

2673
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, our friend Fulton said he just blew out twenty

2674
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:27,840
Speaker 1: six birthday candles last week, and now Frankie does two better,

2675
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 1: twenty eight of them he'll blow out today. Tell him

2676
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: happy birthday from us. All right, Yeah, thank Jake. Love

2677
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: being on with you guys. Enjoying the game tonight. I

2678
02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Debbie Antonella joining us Fever and Action tonight

2679
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 1: against seven o'clock against Phoenix six forty five. Pregame with Eddie.

2680
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 1: Well come back. We'll put a tie on all of it.

2681
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:46,440
Speaker 1: We'll hand it off to John as well querying company

2682
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 1: here on the fan. You know this is Eddie money.

2683
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know this or not, Eddie,

2684
02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:54,520
Speaker 1: but oftentimes I refer to you as Eddie loose change.

2685
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 2: Oh really, so you know?

2686
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean close, right, I mean close, but not

2687
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 1: necessarily the full that's rude. Just so you know, well,

2688
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,160
Speaker 1: you can name your fantasy football team that if you get,

2689
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 1: if you had Eddie Murray as your kicker, you could

2690
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 1: call yourself what would you call it?

2691
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 2: Well, well, let's see hold on in the Querying Company

2692
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 2: League last year, I did not name my team after

2693
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 2: a player on my team. I went with the Watermelon

2694
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Commies last year.

2695
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:20,160
Speaker 1: That's solid and.

2696
02:12:20,160 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 2: We were victorious with the league. So got to like that, right,

2697
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:26,840
Speaker 2: got around the bank?

2698
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 7: Right?

2699
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 4: Uh?

2700
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 1: You wore Victoria's last year.

2701
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 3: Right.

2702
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 1: You made a late move, didn't you.

2703
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2704
02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: I did, banged up, got healthy. There we go, one

2705
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 1: of those teams that that got hot, got into the

2706
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken after round and found out. Do you

2707
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:43,480
Speaker 1: remember last year you were the commissioner, right?

2708
02:12:43,800 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

2709
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: Didn't you have to undo a transaction that I had

2710
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 1: made because like and you were understanding of it. There

2711
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 1: was there was some weird thing remember where I was

2712
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,520
Speaker 1: going through and I was trying to start a player

2713
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 1: and I and it like it like waved it.

2714
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 2: Drop to the player. Yeah, on accident.

2715
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was Tyreek Hill maybe maybe, Yeah,

2716
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I didn't mean to drop him, and

2717
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 1: so I immediately called you know, yeah, I get it

2718
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 1: because it was easier to do than you think.

2719
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I will not make the mistake. So you

2720
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 2: can draft this year of doing it during the show.

2721
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:19,400
Speaker 2: We should get Chicago'sizza on board and do a draft party.

2722
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, draft party. Chicago's pizzaud be awesome.

2723
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 2: Since eighteen Central and being a location, Jake, I'm sure

2724
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 2: twenty five state wide, we can find somewhere.

2725
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 3: Right.

2726
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:30,160
Speaker 1: You know, they have a location in French Lick. You know,

2727
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 1: I've never been to French Lick, Indiana.

2728
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 2: Neither of That's the second time I've had this conversation

2729
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. You know, we should

2730
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 2: you know what we should do. We could do a

2731
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 2: little double date.

2732
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,880
Speaker 1: We'll take uh, we'll go down go to French Lick

2733
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 1: and go to Chicago's Pzaza and have dinner. That would

2734
02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 1: be nice, sake, Olivia, take Shannon down there. Oh, oh,

2735
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:50,600
Speaker 1: what's what's that? I thought I was just gonna be

2736
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:54,360
Speaker 1: us two bros. Yeah, just a couple of dudes driving

2737
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 1: down to Prince Lick together.

2738
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not all of that at all.

2739
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 1: I noticed you wearing. Also, is this a new fever

2740
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 1: t shirt you have on?

2741
02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Shout out to Eddie White and the Peper over

2742
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:08,360
Speaker 2: It pay Sports Entertainment. They gave me a goodie bag

2743
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 2: last week when you're at when you weren't here, they

2744
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 2: dropped off a couple of shirts for me.

2745
02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:15,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to put you on the spot with

2746
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 1: a trivia question. And I now when I do this

2747
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 1: sometimes and you tell me if you have the right

2748
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:26,320
Speaker 1: to defer, I am not going to be just if

2749
02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:28,960
Speaker 1: you'd like. There are times, admittedly with you where I'll

2750
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:31,440
Speaker 1: ask a question like the Beatles and you didn't know, Hey, Jude,

2751
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like what This is not going to be

2752
02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: one of those times. I would actually be impressed if

2753
02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 1: you do know. But I'm curious just because of the

2754
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:48,240
Speaker 1: the antiquated nature of what I'm about to ask. Okay, Okay,

2755
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:51,000
Speaker 1: do you know the significance of the shirt that I'm wearing.

2756
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't.

2757
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if Jeff Ricker's just in here would know.

2758
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:59,680
Speaker 1: I'll bet he would know. J and B will absolutely know.

2759
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:03,280
Speaker 1: But I don't blame you for not knowing. Edy. It

2760
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: would have surprised. I would have been very impressed if

2761
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 1: you didn't know, John, do you know the significance of

2762
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 1: the shirt that I'm wearing.

2763
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:10,400
Speaker 2: The Red's made a Tree? Yes, breaking Away?

2764
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 1: Correct, I'm wearing the cutters shirt from Breaking Away?

2765
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:14,000
Speaker 3: Breaking Away?

2766
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:16,520
Speaker 1: Now do you know what number it is? Because they

2767
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:19,040
Speaker 1: all wore the same number. Do you remember that twenty three.

2768
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 2: Thirty four?

2769
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember the significance of why they all had.

2770
02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:26,600
Speaker 2: Three forty three for some reason. But no, great movie

2771
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 2: is always funny.

2772
02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 11: We would watch it and then I'd have friends and say, hey,

2773
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:32,120
Speaker 11: that's my parents' car, like you'd be.

2774
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 2: They'd get a shot a.

2775
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 11: Thirst tree in front of really well, I think it

2776
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 11: was Pagali's pizza place that was there. That's been Jay

2777
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 11: Arthur's and I just been Malibu Grill now, that.

2778
02:15:41,320 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 1: Pizza place right there on the square, right, Yeah, And

2779
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 1: that was so what they would have filmed that. I'm

2780
02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:47,880
Speaker 1: guessing the movie came out in seventy nine. They would

2781
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:49,280
Speaker 1: have had to have filmed it in the summer seventy eight,

2782
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 1: probably seventy eight. Yeah, summer of seventy eight. Their shots

2783
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:57,440
Speaker 1: of Clear Creek down on the south side of Bloomington, Big.

2784
02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 11: Function four forty six, oh, yeah, the Union bowling in

2785
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 11: the Union too, and the guy, the Beverly Hills cop

2786
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:08,800
Speaker 11: who just died, John Ashton was the brother of Dennis Quaid.

2787
02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:11,600
Speaker 11: Can you imagine having to spend all that time with

2788
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:14,440
Speaker 11: Dennis Quaid without going crazy to I think he was

2789
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:16,040
Speaker 11: just nuts back then as he was. And I'm not

2790
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:18,680
Speaker 11: talking about Randy. I'm talking about Dennis, because he's equally nuts.

2791
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:21,480
Speaker 1: Well, they you know, I read an article that the

2792
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 1: cast for Breaking Away, that they made them all live

2793
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 1: together for like two months or something to to to

2794
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,320
Speaker 1: give the you know, so they had a natural you know,

2795
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of like people don't realize this, but you know,

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02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 1: not unlike how one once one weekend per month, you me,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, James Boyd and Ricord, we all go together

2798
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 1: and stay in a cabin just for camaraderie purposes, and

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02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 1: then we take Can.

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Speaker 11: You imagine the ledge I'd have to jump off of that.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 11: The trade the Reds made. The trade was it buying

2803
02:16:56,680 --> 02:16:57,320
Speaker 11: or selling?

2804
02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 2: Buying? Who do we buy Ryan Hayes from the pirates?

2805
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:08,440
Speaker 2: Who exactly who the hell is that third baseman? Oh boy? Nick?

2806
02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 2: The Nerds working got rid of Taylor Rogers and then

2807
02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:14,400
Speaker 2: some someone else said, working at They can't get rid

2808
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:19,279
Speaker 2: of that Richardson clown quick enough. Now, my god, he's horrible.

2809
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 2: Holy crap, he's in the pan. I haven't seen him

2810
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 2: in a while.

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02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:27,160
Speaker 11: Breaking Away, Oh you went yesterday too for that mammoth disappointment. Yep,

2812
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:30,560
Speaker 11: you can see that coming a mile away. I love

2813
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 11: Breaking Away. Jake, yes to me, it's almost it's right

2814
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 11: up there with Hoosiers. I mean, as much as we love.

2815
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 1: I think one of the things about it that I

2816
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 1: enjoy is How and I forget the character's name. Some

2817
02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 1: my apologies, but the main writer, How, his dad, you know,

2818
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 1: just kind of rolls his eyes the whole time at

2819
02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:55,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then when he's at the you know,

2820
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 1: he's at his card lot when the race is going on,

2821
02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,920
Speaker 1: he's got it on the radio and suddenly he kind

2822
02:17:59,920 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 1: of gets it right and he gets into it and

2823
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:03,560
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, you go, you cutters, you know, And

2824
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:04,960
Speaker 1: the mom was supported. It was a cool movie.

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02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 11: It was kind of like you get like Don Stuck's

2826
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:11,200
Speaker 11: involved in this. Now you know Don Stuck. He's an

2827
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:14,600
Speaker 11: actor in Chicago. There have been you could see all

2828
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:19,520
Speaker 11: the characters, whether it's eight men out or breaking Away

2829
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:24,119
Speaker 11: or Hoosiers that they have Chicago ties because they hired

2830
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:27,760
Speaker 11: a lot of these actors regionally, like the guy that

2831
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:30,320
Speaker 11: that I forget what his name is, Chelsea, whatever his

2832
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:32,840
Speaker 11: name was. He played Ed Harris from Major League. He

2833
02:18:32,959 --> 02:18:35,160
Speaker 11: was in all of those films and he was based

2834
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:40,039
Speaker 11: out of Chicago. Herb Simon's Herb Simon's brother Mel was

2835
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:43,959
Speaker 11: a producer for the movie for My Bodyguard that was

2836
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 11: based out of Chicago, that had John Cusack's sister Joan

2837
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:50,360
Speaker 11: in it and Matt Dillon, one of his initial roles,

2838
02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 11: was in it. And they hire they hire actors or

2839
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:54,760
Speaker 11: out of the Chicago area.

2840
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:59,119
Speaker 1: I saw a movie poster today posted somewhere for Private School.

2841
02:18:59,160 --> 02:19:03,080
Speaker 1: It's in the poster not up to part with our

2842
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 1: favorite Phoebe k scene, but she looks pretty good in

2843
02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:05,440
Speaker 1: the poster.

2844
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 11: Let me tell you this, Betsy Russell in that film.

2845
02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:14,680
Speaker 11: Still to this day, I would go jousting you. Check

2846
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 11: out Betsy Russell on Private School. Tell me if I'm wrong,

2847
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,120
Speaker 11: I think she's She was once upon a time married

2848
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:24,720
Speaker 11: to a Van Patten, one of them, Vince van Patten Pen.

2849
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 2: Goodness, Betsy Russell.

2850
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 11: Was so hot and it was always it was always

2851
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:32,720
Speaker 11: forgotten about because Phoebe k was in that phone. Hey,

2852
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:34,560
Speaker 11: by the way, breaking Away, there's a scene after the

2853
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:38,240
Speaker 11: Cutters win. Remember that blonde haired kid that had the

2854
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:41,760
Speaker 11: bowl haircut, had the white Sox plastic helmet on. Yes,

2855
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:44,720
Speaker 11: in that I've always wanted to find out who that

2856
02:19:44,840 --> 02:19:47,280
Speaker 11: kid was. I do that all the time with movie. Yeah,

2857
02:19:47,320 --> 02:19:50,840
Speaker 11: I always wanted to find that out. Okay, different subject

2858
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 11: on it.

2859
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,840
Speaker 1: But the other day I was watching The Beatles in

2860
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:58,400
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, filmed a in a studio, filmed Hey Jude,

2861
02:19:58,520 --> 02:20:01,120
Speaker 1: like basically a music video, and they they brought in

2862
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,520
Speaker 1: like kids from a school and there's a kid standing

2863
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:06,360
Speaker 1: right behind Ringo Star that's like by the end of

2864
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:08,400
Speaker 1: the song, he's like, I mean, he's all into it,

2865
02:20:08,440 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 1: and he's like fourteen years old. And I've always wanted like,

2866
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:13,039
Speaker 1: who is this kid? You know, where is he now?

2867
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:14,920
Speaker 1: What is his life now?

2868
02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:15,240
Speaker 5: You know?

2869
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Is he still living? I mean he would be Gosh,

2870
02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:20,440
Speaker 1: the guy'd be seventy two years old, seventy three years old, now,

2871
02:20:20,480 --> 02:20:20,959
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

2872
02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:24,480
Speaker 11: But that's pretty cool. Hey, getting back to the late

2873
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:27,440
Speaker 11: Mail and Herb Simon. One time I had Herb on

2874
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:29,160
Speaker 11: the show and ask him. I wanted to ask him

2875
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 11: about Porky's and his brother's ventures into film production in

2876
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:35,119
Speaker 11: the early eighties, and he did not want any part

2877
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,080
Speaker 11: of it, really and did not want to talk about it,

2878
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:40,320
Speaker 11: especially Porky's. I think he was embarrassed. Yeah, I'm my Porky's,

2879
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 11: which I wanted to tell him. Porky's was like a

2880
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 11: ride of passage from my life.

2881
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:47,880
Speaker 2: Of course, no, I wanted to thank him was actually

2882
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:48,480
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do.

2883
02:20:48,920 --> 02:20:51,400
Speaker 11: I mean, there are so many like you couldn't do

2884
02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 11: that at a second now, there's zero way. Even the

2885
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:57,879
Speaker 11: shower scene, all this is a zero way. There's a

2886
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:01,920
Speaker 11: lot of it was just wall the wall entertainment. That's

2887
02:21:01,959 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 11: like the nineteen eighties, all right.

2888
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:05,040
Speaker 1: There, HBO.

2889
02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:09,720
Speaker 11: He did, he did Porky's, He did My Bodyguard. He

2890
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,480
Speaker 11: may have been involved in Porky's to the next day,

2891
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:15,600
Speaker 11: but he did some My Bodyguards a great film, by

2892
02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:16,959
Speaker 11: the way, absolutely great film.

2893
02:21:17,080 --> 02:21:18,480
Speaker 1: What's on the Big Show today.

2894
02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:20,760
Speaker 11: We'll do I think Kevin from Camp where there's no

2895
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 11: camp going on, I'm gonna be up there tomorrow.

2896
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 2: And Charles R.

2897
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 11: Buckle, who's going to play some Roles coming up here too,

2898
02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:30,680
Speaker 11: and we'll talk to Charles, the former Colts tight end,

2899
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:34,119
Speaker 11: about the upcoming season. And, as Larry Bird famously said,

2900
02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:38,040
Speaker 11: stuffick yep, and you're passing, dribbling, shooting stuff.

2901
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 2: Yet your shoes.

2902
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:43,039
Speaker 1: Your shoes match your shirt today, John, I'm very important.

2903
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 8: You like that, do you?

2904
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:45,680
Speaker 2: That was the last minute decision. I got all my

2905
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:46,959
Speaker 2: shoes to match my shirt. Press.

2906
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:49,840
Speaker 1: Will you look at Felt and you're matching and stuff

2907
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:50,960
Speaker 1: I can't, which is cool.

2908
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:51,200
Speaker 5: Ye.

2909
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 1: John's up next. We'll be back with through noon tomorrow.

2910
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Speaker 1: I thank you for Tony Stewart in studio tomorrow. By

2911
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 1: the way, thank you for listening to Quarry Company.