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Speaker 1: Sa Hammery Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel. That's

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Speaker 1: Chasing Hammer right over there with a very special guest

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Speaker 1: on the hotline.

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Speaker 2: He's an investigative reporter for The Daily Signal and the

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Speaker 2: host of the Tony Kennett cast Monday through Friday seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock right after our show here at ninety three WIBC

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Speaker 2: the tonas.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennett is with us.

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Speaker 2: And Tony, it's my understanding you and the Secretary of

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Speaker 2: War were playing grab ass earlier today.

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: Now? I don't want to say that he gave me

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Speaker 4: his famous American flag pocket handkerchief, but we did, in

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Speaker 4: fact laugh about the Narco boats that are have been

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Speaker 4: promoted to submarine.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, backup a minute here, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How did you end up in a room with the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of War Pete Hegzath and others?

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Speaker 4: So there is a Northeastern Indiana Defense Summit. Now that

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Speaker 4: might sone rather confusing to a lot of you out there.

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Speaker 4: It's like, first of all, why is there an Indiana

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Speaker 4: Defense Summit? Number two? Why is there a Northeast Indiana

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Speaker 4: Defense summer.

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Speaker 1: Jim Banks was on our show last week mentioned this.

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Speaker 4: I believe sang it, Jim okay, well, since he ruined.

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Speaker 5: It, keep going, keep going right here.

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Speaker 4: As the senator from Indiana explained earlier, Indiana, we are

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Speaker 4: known for our manufacturing industry. But a lot of people

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Speaker 4: bemoan that we don't make as many cars as we

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Speaker 4: used to. And that's true. But Indiana is one of

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Speaker 4: the top three states in production in military equipment and research.

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Speaker 4: Indiana makes the Humby, has made it for the last

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Speaker 4: forty years. Indiana makes the Honey Badger, the armored personnel

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Speaker 4: carrier that can put a hole in a house. Think

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Speaker 4: like a tank, but faster. Indiana is the leading naval

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Speaker 4: research center for hypersonic missiles. Yeah, I said, Navy. It's

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Speaker 4: a huge thing. And so the Secretary of War, Secretary

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Speaker 4: of the Navy was there. I actually got to ask

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Speaker 4: the Secretary of Navy a question I have been.

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Speaker 3: Itching to ask.

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Speaker 4: It's why I signed up for the Pentagon Press Pass.

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Speaker 4: And I got a straight answer, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: that in and of itself is a miracle.

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Speaker 5: Right right.

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Speaker 2: It's not normal of government folk to give you a

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: You were rattling off some stuff there Tony that I

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Speaker 1: was like, Wow, I had no clue any of this

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Speaker 4: I mean, I have to be very careful what I

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Speaker 4: say legally on the air. Here. I am acquainted with

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Speaker 4: certain matters pertaining to military industry, and I was shocked

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Speaker 4: to hear how much that Indiana's northeastern section in manufacturing

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Speaker 4: does for the military and again research as well. We

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Speaker 4: have the third largest naval research facility in the world Indiana. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and it's not near Lake Michigan. So it's incredible to

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Speaker 4: see that kind of stuff. Makes you proud to be

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Speaker 4: an American, but also really proud to be a Hoosier.

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Speaker 4: We build this country and we keep it safe.

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Speaker 2: With Pete Hegseeth, the Secretary of War being up in

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Speaker 2: Fort Wayne, how many people did he call fat?

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Speaker 4: You know, him being from Minnesota, he really didn't have

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Speaker 1: Now, did you guys really talk about the Venezuelan narco

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they keep on.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I was not being silly when I said that.

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Speaker 4: He laughed when I was talking about promoting boats to submarine.

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Speaker 4: It's because I want him to use that line in

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Speaker 4: the next presidential cabinet meeting.

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Speaker 5: Right from voting boats to submarines.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you Yes, it's a nice politically correct

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Speaker 2: way to look at it. Sure, sure, but Tony, you

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Speaker 2: see the same stuff that we do. There are people

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Speaker 2: out there that, for whatever reason, have become Team Fentanyl Boat,

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Speaker 3: And that's wild to me.

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Speaker 4: I just so happened to read your guys' minds. I

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Speaker 4: asked Senator Jim Banks in an interview for Tony Kinnett

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Speaker 4: And that's not the case. That is not the case.

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Speaker 4: It has been extremely precise, it's been targeted, and it

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Speaker 2: Tony Kennett with us from the Tony Kennett Cast, also

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Speaker 2: an investigative reporter at The Daily Signal. The big news

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Speaker 2: on certainly the liberal leaning networks, but I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of networks. This morning, the Epstein files, some emails

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Speaker 2: have been released, and CNN right now is at def

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Speaker 2: con one. They're claiming Donald Trump knew what Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: was doing, and he was in a room with one

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Speaker 2: aware of what Jeffrey Epstein was doing on his island.

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Speaker 2: Is this big trouble? Is this bad news for Donald Trump?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: And there's a couple of reasons why. Number One, the

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Speaker 4: guy who wrote the article in Michael Wolfe, on these

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Speaker 4: particular articles that they're parading around, this man has had

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Speaker 4: to issue several retractions because of defamation and libel lawsuits.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna make this very clear. I've never had

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Speaker 4: to do that. And so you know, when I actually

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Speaker 4: through a process of trying to get in touch with

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Speaker 4: everyone involved in the story. You outline the information, but Also,

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Speaker 4: you don't take quotes out of context. You don't pick

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Speaker 4: half of one email and say, aha, here's proof. Because

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Speaker 4: we also have information from the released file that show

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Speaker 4: the Trump team, that being Trump and his advisors before

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Speaker 4: he got into politics, were in communication with the FBI

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Speaker 4: and the state government of Florida back after these supposed

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Speaker 4: emails took place, but earlier than Epstein was caught, which

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Speaker 4: gives credence to that. Now you know, Mike Johnson says

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Speaker 4: he was an FBI informant. I think that may be

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Speaker 4: on the other side, Trump also has worked with the

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Speaker 2: Do we make anything of the emails from Jeffrey Epstein, Like,

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Speaker 2: I know, this isn't really like a great guy, it's

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Speaker 2: not a great source, But the emails show Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: communicating with Michael Wolfe that Trump knew what was going on.

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Speaker 3: Basically, I just need.

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Speaker 4: More information on it. And by the way, that's not

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Speaker 4: the author, this is all very suspicious. I haven't seen

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Speaker 4: any of these things validated yet. Carolyn Levitt seem to

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Speaker 4: rest for a minute. But yeah, this is incredibly suspect

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Speaker 4: that just all of the sudden, when the shutdown information

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Speaker 5: Clothing right right, you mentioned the shutdowns.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Tony Kennett from the Tony Kinney Cast

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Speaker 1: weeknight seven o'clock right after our show here on ninety

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Speaker 1: three WIBC Winners and losers of the shutdown. I would say,

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Speaker 1: on a very basic level, the Republicans are the winners

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats are the losers.

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Speaker 5: Would you agree?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean clearly the worst loser of all

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Speaker 4: is Chuck Schumer. And this is a weird one. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you get both sides of the party

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Speaker 4: mad at you. I've never seen that before. I mean really,

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Speaker 4: I've never seen you actually saw Chuck Schumer, the guy

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Speaker 4: the moderates like the John Fettermans. They hate him because

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Speaker 4: now the progressives hate Schumer because they don't think he

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Speaker 4: it's like everybody loves Raymonds like Devrah. Now it's everybody

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Speaker 2: So what does this mean about the leadership of the

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Speaker 2: feels like we're in that Captain Phillips, I'm the captain

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Speaker 2: now moment for AOC.

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Speaker 3: Is she the face of this?

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Speaker 2: I know, Charlemagne the god, the radio host, super leftist.

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Speaker 2: He feels like Jasmine Crockett might be the face of

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Speaker 3: What say you?

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Speaker 4: First of all, I was gonna bring up Jasmine if

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Speaker 4: you didn't. AOC obviously is going to be the leader,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that AOC will try it up there. However,

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Speaker 4: Jasmine Crockett, see she's gonna run for Senate And when

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Speaker 4: Titan Player, and before that, Beto O'Rourke. I mean, come out.

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Speaker 4: How many times do we have to hear the same

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like this little civil war that's brewing

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Speaker 2: right now. For every John fetterman, there's a bunch more

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Speaker 4: Well that's for two reasons. Number One, the establishment has

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Speaker 4: they didn't do that. They went with the youths. And

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Speaker 4: so also the moderates, a lot of them have left

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Speaker 4: there's really enough ground for them to say we can

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Speaker 4: fix this from the inside.

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Speaker 3: Back with Tony Kennett.

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Speaker 2: He's an investigative reporter at the Daily Signal and his show,

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Speaker 2: The Tony Kennett Cast, coming up right after our program

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Speaker 2: this evening. Or do we have IU basketball tonight? I

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Speaker 2: think we might have AU basketball tonight.

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Speaker 4: You know what, we do have IU basketball tonight, ah.

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Speaker 2: Man, Tony Kenneth's been a great conversation, Ki, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk again.

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Speaker 5: Now you're still doing your show. It's just not going

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Speaker 5: to be on our airwaves, right.

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Speaker 4: That's true. I don't know. I guess I could let

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Speaker 4: you know that the Secretary of the Navy, I was

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Speaker 4: teasing that question that like he actually answered correctly. It

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Speaker 4: was about the Navy actually doing something about drones in China,

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Speaker 4: and the man gave me like a six point power

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Speaker 4: point of an answer. So there's your teas. You got

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Speaker 4: to watch the show on the live stream. After you

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Speaker 4: watch I you win.

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Speaker 3: There we go love it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, since we've got a couple more minutes of your

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Speaker 2: time here. Did you catch the Turning Point USA event

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Speaker 2: in the quote birthplace of free speech, cal Berkeley and

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Speaker 2: the way that it was covered by the media mostly peaceful?

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Speaker 3: Which I feel like I've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 4: There's something beautiful about watching someone on the left make

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Speaker 4: the decision to do the meme, like to do the

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Speaker 4: for example, the Norm McDonald, Well, if there was a

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Speaker 4: nuclear attack in New York City, can you imagine the islamophobia?

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Speaker 4: I mean that kind of thing, but with the mostly

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Speaker 4: peaceful mean they just went ahead and did it. And then,

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Speaker 4: of course the other side is maybe right after you

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Speaker 4: say mostly peaceful, having two dudes deck each other in

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Speaker 4: the face may not be the best example of mostly peaceful.

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Speaker 4: Just a little news advice there.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I really get down when I see

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Speaker 1: these violent protests at Turning.

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Speaker 4: Point Me like it, start break dancing, get.

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Speaker 1: Down, do yeah, Like I lay a piece of cardboard down.

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Speaker 1: I turn on Electric Broogerloot Part two.

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Speaker 5: And I get there.

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Speaker 4: That'll stop a protest.

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Speaker 5: I wodn't say, I know, I like I get down.

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Speaker 1: When I see the ugliness of protesters throwing it in

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Speaker 1: the people from Turning Point USA's face that their guy

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Speaker 1: is dead, he's violently assassinated.

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Speaker 4: I think there's every reason to hate it. Those individuals

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Speaker 4: are Unamerican. Again. They've shown their true colors. You have

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Welch, one of the many botox angry, bitter, old

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Speaker 4: blonde women on the left who you know, tried to

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Speaker 4: make the case that if you don't get on board

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Speaker 4: with this, they're gonna come for you too. Yes, and again,

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Speaker 4: I don't really know what they think they're gonna do

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Speaker 4: in Georgia and Pennsylvania with that, but they're already losing

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Speaker 4: electoral votes. People are already listing their apartments on Zillow

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Speaker 4: in New York City to escape. And as long as

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Speaker 4: they continue trotting this stuff out, they are just going

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Speaker 4: to alienate themselves from again even the Bill Clinton moderates

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Speaker 4: who have left for the GOP.

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Speaker 2: And for the record, my botox looks fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Jones.

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Speaker 4: That's true. Your hips have never looked better.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're not on our air tonight, but we can

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Speaker 2: watch you online.

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Speaker 3: Where can we find your show?

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Speaker 4: You go to YouTube dot com or rumble dot com

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Speaker 4: and then you go to the Daily Signal channel. You'll

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Speaker 4: find me there looking dapper or your money back.

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Speaker 2: The tonis on Twitter at the Toonis Tony Kennett.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 4: You guys are the best.

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Speaker 3: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.