1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today and I. 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: Still here Tony Katz Today's awesome intro music. This is 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Mike Coolidge in for Tony Katz Today and fingers crossed 5 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: tomorrow and so excited to join Tony Katz's listeners on 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: what could be a really news breaky day an in 7 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: or I should say out of Indiana. That's right out 8 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: of Indiana. Now, I know that Tony Katz Today is 9 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: broadcast on some stations that are outside of Indiana, So 10 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: if you are on one of those stations, understand that 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: it be delving into the Indiana redistricting stuff later on 12 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: this show as the show develops. That is because that 13 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: is a national story. It is a hugely national story 14 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: that President Trump has been posting on truth social about, 15 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: both of his sons have been posting on x about. 16 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: It is something that has national ramifications. 17 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: So those of you who are. 18 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: In Indiana, you're obviously very familiar with this. You likely 19 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: are represented by many of the senators that everyone's talking about, 20 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: who are going to decide literally possibly by the time 21 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: this show is over, on whether the congressional maps in 22 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Illinois are going to be new for the coming election 23 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six A. They're going to be changed, 24 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: and will they be changed in a way that will 25 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: likely lead to all nine congressional districts being held by Republicans. 26 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: That is what I know. Tony, who told me earlier 27 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: this week, wants to happen. And I'll tell you, as 28 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: an Illinoian, I hope that happens too. We will bring 29 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: it to you live if news develops. The word is 30 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: or not the word is. The facts that I've been 31 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: reading here are that the I'm sorry, I'm going to 32 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: say that numerous times. I apologize. I might slip and 33 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: say Illinois because I live in Illinois. The Indiana Senate, 34 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: it's going to vote today, or at least they're going 35 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: to session today at one thirty Eastern time. Okay, so 36 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: at one thirty Eastern. I don't think we're going to 37 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: have news right at that moment, but they will be 38 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: in the session talking, and if the Indiana Senate is 39 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: anything like the Illinois Senate, or if it's anything like 40 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: the US Senate, there might be a whole lot of 41 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 2: talking and so there might not be a vote right 42 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: at one thirty one Eastern time today. It might take 43 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of time, and we're gonna continue to 44 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: be on the air, and Olivia give you a little 45 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: peek behind the curtain here. I like to plan things out, 46 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: but I also like to be agile. I learned that 47 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: from hosting my own radio show for fifteen years called 48 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: The Michael Coolidge Show, that, especially when there's late breaking 49 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: news or hot news, you want to not be talking 50 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: about I don't know the history of house paint with 51 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: one of your guests while a massive news story is occurring, 52 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, a Supreme Court ruling on something huge, or 53 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: remember the crazy impeachment of Donald Trump, all that craziness. 54 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: Listeners when they tune in, especially when they're driving, they 55 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: know hot news is happening they want, and especially when 56 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: they're listening to the good old fashioned radio, which you 57 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: are listening to right now, terrestrial radio, the real deal radio. 58 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: None of this podcasting business. 59 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: I'm not anti podcasting at all. I have a podcast. 60 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: I've been podcasting actually since way back in two thousand 61 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: and six, if you can believe it, used to podcast 62 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: my show when it was done and it was. 63 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: On it was through iTunes. You could put over this old. 64 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Way, and you know, we would chop it up and 65 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: you know, take out the commercials, and it was this 66 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: whole whole ordeal. 67 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: But I don't I didn't. 68 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: I stop doing that when I realized that most of 69 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: my listeners were listening on the real, good old fashioned radio, 70 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: and the time it took me to put podcasts together, 71 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: which was just a recording of the show, wasn't as 72 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: hot as the real old fashioned radio. And that's where 73 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: I would get, you know, comments and real time responses 74 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: back from listeners. And that might happen as you're listening 75 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: to this show today, their news or the news might 76 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: be breaking that the Indiana Senate voted yes or no 77 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: on the new maps. And as a non Indiana, I'm sorry, 78 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: as a non Hoosier, that's right. 79 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: There's no such thing as an Indiana in I know that. 80 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, my gosh, I got to take 81 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: an aside here. I'm a gigantic college football fan, and 82 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm a gigantic University of Georgia Bulldogs fan, and. 83 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: It is not going to be that far fetched. 84 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 2: I would say, today is December eleventh, twenty twenty five. 85 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: If I could go ahead and make a prediction that 86 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: the college football Championship in Miami, Florida in early twenty 87 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: twenty six might be against your Indiana Hoosiers and the. 88 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: Georgia Bulldogs. That might happen. 89 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: I respect a heck out of the Indiana Hoo's yours 90 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: football team, what an incredible year, number one in the country, 91 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: zero losses. Georgia loss to Alabama and then they beat Alabama, 92 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: so they kind of, you know, nullified that loss maybe, 93 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know. If it is Georgia versus Indiana 94 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: in the college football Championship, I'm gonna be nervous. 95 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: Honestly. 96 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Indiana is really really good. Y'all are really really good 97 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: the football team there. So in any event, the news, 98 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: the national news about this is going to have very 99 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: big ramifications. It might even have ramifications in my state, Illinois, 100 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: which will also have national ramifications. Talking about this whole 101 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: redistricting thing. We're gonna get into it in the second 102 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: hour a little bit more because there might be late 103 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: breaking news at the time. Later on, we're going to 104 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: be joined by my good friend, doctor Will Riley, political 105 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: science professor at Kentucky State University. He's a huge deal 106 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: and has become a huge deal. He was posted on 107 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: or talked about on X yesterday by what's. 108 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: That guy's name again? Oh yeah, Elon Musk. 109 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, the owner of X, posted about Will Riley's 110 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: book yesterday. His book's been out for years, Will, It's 111 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: been a huge deal for years. He did this piece 112 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: or he did this segment with John Stossel about the 113 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: I really disliked the term misinformation, but it's kind of 114 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: applicable here. The misinformation that has been put out about 115 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: the history of slavery in our country and slavery in 116 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: the world, and it's still being taught to our children. 117 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: And doctor Wolf of Riley, he teaches at a historically 118 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: black college in Kentucky, laid out the facts about slavery 119 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: that so many people don't know and or at least 120 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: aren't told. And John Stossel asked him about that. Anyway, 121 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: there was a clip Elon Musk posted about it and 122 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: kind of blow up. But I mean, Will's been on 123 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, He's he's all over the place and he's 124 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: been on I'm pretty sure Tony Katz has interviewed him. 125 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: And he was one of my favorite regular guests on 126 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: the Michael Coogan Show many years ago, and so he's 127 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: going to be joining us in the third hour of 128 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: this radio program, and who knows, by then we might 129 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: have a vote or something to talk about. News wise, 130 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: as far as the Indiana Senate voting yay or nay 131 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: on new maps for twenty twenty six, that if they 132 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: vote yes, we'll almost guarantee a plus two, a flip 133 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: of two Republican or I'm sorry, a flip of two 134 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: Democrat seats. You know in Indiana is what seven to 135 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: two right now go, it'll be nine zero almost certainly 136 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: at the same and it votes yes today if you 137 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: find out that they vote no or that there's no 138 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: vote at all, because word is I've been reading. 139 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: Up on the old X that some of these senators. 140 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: Are are a wall, are not showing up, not yet anyway. 141 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say any names yet because they 142 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: still have time to get there. But there's rumors being 143 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: circulated that some senators might not show up again, just 144 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: a rumor. When the rubber meets the road at one 145 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: thirty eastern today, we will know if they do have 146 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: everyone there on the ground in the Indiana Legislature. Okay, 147 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: we are going to and I got to say too. 148 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: And I know that Tony Katz today listeners will appreciate this. 149 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: And I hope the radio station, the flagship radio station 150 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: of his show, WIBC, doesn't mind me saying this. But 151 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: the people behind the scenes, I guess there's some new 152 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: studio equipment or some changing stuff going on. 153 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: And it all went off without a hit. 154 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: Uh, we was, We were slightly nervous right before we 155 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: got on the air that you know, my equipment on 156 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: my end here in Illinois would communicate properly with the 157 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: communications apparatus in Indiana. 158 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: And uh, it's working like a charm if you can 159 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: hear me. 160 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: So the magic of again good old fashioned radio is working. 161 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: You're listening, and we can't wait to make radio for 162 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: you today. My name is Mike Coolidge. That's spelled with 163 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: the K k O O l I d g E. 164 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: Coolidge kay is in cats except that's Coolidge and that 165 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: is my ex handle as well. If you want to 166 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: say hi to me there, I'll follow you back at 167 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: k O O l I d g E if you 168 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: want to follow me on X. I didn't even post 169 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: about this yet, but I might during the break here say, hey, 170 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and listen live online. But you need to 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: listen online. You're listening on the regular world radio and 172 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: we appreciate it. This is my Coolidge in for Tony 173 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: Cats Today. 174 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 175 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: We are back. 176 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: Come on Tony K's Today, Mike Coolidge in for Tony A. 177 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: I miss good old fashioned real music. That's one of 178 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: the great great things too about radios. You can play 179 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,479 Speaker 2: actual music podcast You got to do all this copyright 180 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: stuff and no, and you got to bring your own 181 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 2: guitar in for your bumper music. 182 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: But not on good old fashion radio. 183 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: You can play any music. It's fantastic, all right. So 184 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on, you know. We talked about 185 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: how there might be some news breaking in an hour 186 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: and a half two hours or so in the state 187 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: of Indiana, which I know where I know many of 188 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: you listen to this radio program on not all of 189 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: you been many of you about the redistricting, so we 190 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: will be talking about that later. But there's other stuff 191 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: going on. There's other things happening in Washington, d C. 192 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: Namely this whole illegal immigration crisis that was fixed was 193 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: stopped by President Donald Trump. Joe Kent, he is the 194 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: NCTC director, and he is. Listen to what he says. 195 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: These are some amazing numbers that have been able to well, 196 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: just listen. 197 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: Another issue that we are addressing right now, thanks to 198 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: the decisive leadership of President Trump, is the scourge of fentanyl, 199 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: gang and cartel violence. Under President Trump's leadership, we've designated 200 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 5: these cartels and gangs as terrorist organizations, and we've done 201 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 5: that rightfully. So these individuals, these terrorists have killed hundreds 202 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: of thousands of Americans. As these angel families will tell 203 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 5: you firsthand. What President Trump is done by designating them 204 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: as terrorists has allowed us to turn the tools of 205 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: the intelligence community against them and predominantly watch list them 206 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: as terrorists to prevent them from ever coming into America 207 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: in the first place. 208 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: To date, we've. 209 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: Added about thirty five thousand of these narco terrorists to 210 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: our terrorist watch list, and we've stopped just around six 211 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 5: thousand of these terrorists from ever entering our country, from 212 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: setting foot inside of America, so they can no longer 213 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: kill Americans with impunity another all right. 214 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: So that's what the Trump administration has been able to accomplish. 215 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Listen to this next clip about what happened during the 216 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: Biden administration and the numbers that we're able to get 217 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: through under him. We're not just talking about illegal aliens here, 218 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about terrorists. 219 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: Under Biden. 220 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 5: We've made significant progress under President Trump's leadership. We have 221 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 5: the jihads of ISIS and al Qaeda on the run 222 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: in Iraq and Syria thanks to decisive action and the 223 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: strikes that we've taken there recently since President Trump took 224 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: office in January. However, we have a persistent threat from 225 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 5: the individuals that were allowed into this country by the 226 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: previous administration. Number one threat that we have right now, 227 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: in my view, is the fact that. 228 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: We don't know who came into our country in the. 229 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: Last four years of Biden's open borders. 230 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: What we have. 231 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: Identified is alarming, and I want to share that with 232 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: you today. 233 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: We just recently put out. 234 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 5: A warning warning of the heightened risk of terrorist attacks 235 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: posed to the homeland by terrorists pretty much of all stripes, 236 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 5: but in particular from ISIS and from al Qaeda. NCTC 237 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: has been crunching the numbers and going through the sheer 238 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: volume of known and suspected terrorists that are in the 239 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: country that came in under the Biden administration. So far, 240 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: NCTC has identified around eighteen thousand known and suspected terrorists 241 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: that the Biden administration let come into our country. These 242 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: are individuals who, under normal circumstances would never be allowed 243 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: to enter our country because of their ties to Gihati 244 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: groups like ISIS and al Qaeda. Yet the Biden administration 245 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: not only let them into the country, and in many 246 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: cases facilitated their entry into the country, just like the 247 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: entry of the app Ghan terrorists who committed the terrorist 248 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: attack here just before Thanksgiving, killing one of. 249 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: Our National Guard members and wounding another. 250 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: That Afghan was brought into the country as a group 251 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: of over one hundred thousand Afghans who were brought here 252 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: during the disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan. These individuals, despite what 253 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: has been reported, were not vetted properly to come into 254 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: the United States. The individual terrorists who committed the attack 255 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: in DC, he was vetted to serve as a soldier 256 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: in Afghanistan. The Biden administration essentially used his tactical level 257 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 5: vetting as a ruse to bring him here and to 258 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: bring him into our communities. 259 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: And we've seen the tragic results. 260 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: Of that Okay, and this piece goes on. I want 261 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: to play the whole thing, but. 262 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: It's hard to emphasize how huge the damage was from 263 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: the last administration. What the Biden administration did were really 264 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: more accurately did not do when they took over. There's 265 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: it's not I mean, it's not even a conspiracy theory 266 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: or any sort of you know, like fantasy that the 267 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: goal was obviously to import voters. That's what the Democrat 268 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: plan has been for years, import voters from other countries. 269 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: The arguments being made by the left. 270 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: Have fallen on deaf ears by Americans and the electorate, 271 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: and they said, well, shoot, we're not able to convince 272 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: people of our arguments and the way we think that 273 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: law should be written and you know, things should be passed. 274 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: Well, what can we do. 275 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: We can riot, we can scream, we can try to 276 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: censor those that don't agree with us. 277 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: Darn it, we keep losing, we keep losing. What can 278 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: we do? 279 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: I know, Well, let's before not enforcing the laws of 280 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: the country, particularly out of southern border, so that we 281 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: can bring everyone possible into our country and get them 282 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: signed up to vote, get them to vote for Democrats. 283 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: For us, that was their plan. But Biden the completely incompetent, 284 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: kind of vegetable really that he was as president. Even 285 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: way back in twenty twenty one, after he was sworn in, 286 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: there wasn't really any rhyme or reason to what he 287 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: was doing at the southern border. Remember he put Kamala 288 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: Harris in charge the borders are. I don't really think 289 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: that he pulled her behind closed doors and said, hey, look, Kamala, 290 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: don't do anything. 291 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: You know you can. 292 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: We're calling we're just giving you a title. You know, 293 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: borders are kind of gave you vice president. You're not 294 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: going to do anything for that either, Just don't do anything. 295 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he did that. I think like they 296 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: just didn't talk. There was no plan. He just said, 297 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: we're going to not enforce the laws at the border 298 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: because Trump did. 299 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: Trump wanted to build a wall. 300 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Let's just do the opposite of that, and Kamala supposed 301 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: to at least and then and then we're gonna have 302 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: the uh Alexander Myorcis character completely lie to the American people, 303 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: the impeached Alexander Myorcus and. 304 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: Lie and say that the border is secure when it needn't. 305 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: It was not. 306 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: Of course, a complete farce. But it's finally happening. There's 307 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: finally some results occurring at the border, which is no 308 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: one's coming in anymore. 309 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: It's sealed. 310 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: Now, what about the awful criminals and the awful human 311 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: beings that did get in and are here in the 312 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: United States right now over the last four years I 313 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: meet there is a new website that has these people 314 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: by name all throughout the country. If you can search 315 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: it state by state where they are. We're gonna tell 316 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: you what that website is and some of the names. Yeah, 317 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: after this on Tony Kat's day, I had my cooliage 318 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz. 319 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. 320 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: I would like you sooo. 321 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: If you are not driving, if you're a passer you're 322 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 2: in a car, or if you're pome listening to this 323 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: on your good old fashioned transistor radio, or if you're 324 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: listening online, go to DHS dot gov forward slash wow. 325 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: All right, DHS dot gov forward slash wow real easy 326 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: to remember. 327 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: Wow. What does WOW stand for? Worst of the worst? 328 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: The US Department of Homeland Security is highlighting the worst 329 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: of the worst criminal aliens arrested by the US Immigration 330 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: and Customs Enforcement Undersecretary of NOMES leadership. The hard working 331 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: men and women of DHS and ICE are fulfilling President 332 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Trump's promise and carrying out mass deportations, starting with the 333 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: worst of the worst, including the illegal aliens you see 334 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: here now in my state, Illinois, there's all sorts of 335 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: rebel rousers in the city of Chicago that are trying 336 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: to do everything they can to stop the federal government 337 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: from kicking people out of the state of Illinois. 338 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 3: Like the following. 339 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Permo Garcio par Seo from Mexico, arrested for aggravated battery 340 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: attempted murder. 341 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: With intent to kill. He is on the lamb right 342 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: now in Chicago, Illinois. 343 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: He's from Mexico. He's an illegal alien. He's on the street. 344 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: He could do more aggravated battery. He could do more 345 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: attempted murders. The protesters in Chicago are trying to stop 346 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: ICE from arresting him. Who else we have here, Juan 347 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: Alberto Carro Marine, also from Mexico, aggravated criminal sexual abuse. 348 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: Of a child. 349 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: He is on the ground right now in Chicago. Protesters there, 350 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: leftists there are stopping authorities from arresting this man. How 351 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: about almost Pang saying Yee from Singapore. Enticement of minor 352 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: for in decent purposes, sexual exploitation of a material photograph, 353 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: sexual exploitation of a minor via telecommunications. He's an illegal 354 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: alien from Singapore. Right now in Chicago, he is being 355 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: stopped from being arrested, or at least if they had 356 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: their druthers, he would not be arrested by Ice by 357 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: DHS because of the protesters like doing everything they can 358 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: to stop ICE from doing their job. Who else we 359 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: have here, Freddie Alexander Maza Barrios from Venezuela. He was 360 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: convicted of resisting an officer. Not as violent as the 361 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: rest of these, but he was convicted of this. This 362 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: is a criminal illegal alien. There are twenty one pages 363 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: of names of people in the state of Illinois who 364 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: are on the LAMB right now, and leftist protesters and 365 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: Democrats if they had their way, would stop these people 366 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: from being arrested. You can search Indiana too. It's really 367 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: easy to do again DHS dot gov forward slash wow. 368 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: Hat tip to Dan Proft, by the way. 369 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: In Chicago for making me aware of this. You can 370 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: look right now on DHS dot gov forward slash wow 371 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: in whatever state you live in, and you can see 372 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: these illegal criminal aliens who are on the LAMB right now, 373 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: who are again leftist protesters and Democrats don't want these 374 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: people to be accosted by Ice. They want them to 375 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: just go about and do as they please. Aang ooh 376 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: from Verma Burglary. He was arrested in Columbia City, Indiana, 377 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: a man named Nelson Avarez Goodoi for homicide. He was 378 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: convicted of homicide. He was arrested in Greencastle, Indiana on 379 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: LAMB right now, one more we have let's just do it. 380 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's ten pages. If you are a Hoosier 381 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: and you want to look this up on DHS dot 382 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: gov forward sash wow. Of the people who are currently 383 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: on the lamb. Ice is looking for them and they 384 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: are according to the leftist protesters and democrats, they should 385 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: be free. 386 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: Leave them alone, do not do anything Ice. 387 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: How dare you do the job that the American people 388 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: voted in the last election to charge the president to 389 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: order you to do the work of the American people 390 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: and clean our communities of these criminal illegal aliens like 391 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: Palo Jemenez, a woman arrested in Columbia City, Indiana for 392 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: hid and run and traffic offense, not arrested, I'm sorry, convicted, 393 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: arrested and then convicted. 394 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: This isn't a. 395 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: Criminal illegal alien who's assumed to have committed a crime. 396 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: Notice I'm not saying alleged here. These are criminal illegal aliens. 397 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: They were already convicted of and in Paalo Jimenez's case, 398 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: hit and run in traffic offense. This is on the 399 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: DHS dot gov forward slash Wow website. Look for it 400 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: yourself if you so desire, and check out the names 401 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: it might be being say the cool thing about it too. 402 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: You can search for the country of origin and you 403 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: can search for the state. There are ten pages of 404 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: such criminal illegal aliens. Richard Neptune from Haiti arrested for 405 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: kidnapping in Indianapolis, Indiana. I wanted to find an Indianapolis one. Yeah, 406 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: convicted for convicted of kidnapping. If the leftist protesters and 407 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Democrats had their. 408 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: Way, he should not. 409 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: He should just be able to go to Walmart, you know, 410 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: get some Christmas gifts, maybe steal a couple, maybe kidnap 411 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: a child or two. Again, that's what he was convicted 412 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: of previously. This is nuts, This is insanity. You want 413 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: some more insanity. 414 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: Those of you who. 415 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: Are faithful and are celebratory of the birth of our 416 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: Gordon Savor Jesus Christ. It being Christmas time, celebrating Christmas. 417 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: If you go to. 418 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: Church, or if you live in a town where there 419 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: are churches, you might see some you know, mangers out 420 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: front of the churches. It's that time of year. I 421 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: participated year years ago and witnessed my brother and sister 422 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: in law being Mary and Joseph as alive major, which 423 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: was really cool, at a Presbyterian church in Georgia years ago. 424 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: There's some super hyper radical leftist church goers who are 425 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: trying to hijack the purpose of this season, which is 426 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: again to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savor 427 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, you know, his birthday. That's what Christmas is, 428 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: That's what's supposed to be. And and you know, it's 429 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: a secular holiday too here in the United States. I mean, 430 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm a Christian, but I know many people are not Christian. 431 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: If you're Jewish, or or you. 432 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Know, Muslim, or you don't worship of faith at all, 433 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: you still probably at least understand that Christmas is a 434 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: really big deal here in the United States. Well, people 435 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: who call themselves Christians are trying to hijack this and 436 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: compare the Holy Family that would be Mary, Joseph and 437 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: Baby Jesus to illegal immigrants. Yes, there's a great piece 438 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: in The Federalist by Mazie Jefferson that says that and 439 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: spells out how historically and theologically ridiculous it is to 440 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: compare the Holy Family to illegal immigrants. We will read 441 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: from some of that on the other side of the spreak. 442 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. I am Mike Coolidge in 443 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: for Tony Katz. Coolidge is also spelled with a K. 444 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: We'll be right back on Tony Katz today. This is 445 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: not a classic rock station. This is a talk show, 446 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: darn it. And I am Mike Coolidge in for Tony Katz. 447 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: I've filled in for Tony a number of times and 448 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: don't want to delve into too much about me and 449 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: my background because who cares. 450 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: We have some really big stuff to talk about today. 451 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: If you so desire and you want to look up 452 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: more about yours, truly, you can find me at Coolidge 453 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: ko l I dge on the old X Coolidge. 454 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: It's spelled with a K. 455 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: Before the break, we were talking about the old Christmas season, 456 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: you know how big a deal it is. And this 457 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: hot topic of illegal immigration and these criminal illegal aliens 458 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: that if you go to DHS dot gov forward slash wow, 459 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: you can see in your state some of these insanely 460 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: awful human beings that have been convicted of crimes like 461 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: kidnapping and murder and homicide, who are being prevented from 462 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: being accosted by ice by leftist protesters and Democrats. They 463 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: don't want these people to be thrown out of the country. 464 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: Oh no, they're protecting them. And that the same mindset 465 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: thinks that the Holy family that would be Joseph, Mary 466 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: and baby Jesus are somehow applicable to the illegal immigration discussion. 467 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that boils my blood 468 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: more than anything as a Christian, is when politics and 469 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: leftism that's the religion really of so many of these leftists, 470 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: and they either bastardize with heresy the story of the birth. 471 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: Of our Lord and your Jesus Christ with their. 472 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: Politics, or they are mocking it because they themselves are 473 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: not Christian, and they try to put the guilt somehow 474 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: and those of us that are by saying wait, wasn't 475 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: the Holy Family. 476 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Of illegal immigrants too? Or I mean, what's going on here? 477 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: No maze. 478 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: Jefferson and the Federalist has a brilliant piece which I 479 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: encourage you to check out. Check out on the Federalists. 480 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: The Holy Family fleeing from one Roman controlled region to 481 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: another in the first century is in no way a 482 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: mandate on whether America has a right to enforce immigration laws. 483 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Last week, a Catholic church in Massachusetts made headlines with 484 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: its Nativity display in which Mary Joseph and Baby Jesus 485 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: were replaced by an empty major manger and an anti 486 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: ice poster. Now it seems the church's pastor is refusing 487 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: to take down the display for the time being, against 488 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: the wishes of his church authority. Saint Susannah, located in 489 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: the Boston suburb of Dedham, displayed a Nativity scene outside 490 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: the church with an empty manger and a sign that 491 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: says Ice was here. 492 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Fox News reported yesterday. 493 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: The implication, of course, is that the baby Savior was 494 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: either apprehended or threatened by federal immigration agents. 495 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 3: Get it. 496 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: The Holy Family is safe in the sanctuary of our church. 497 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: The sign below the ice wassseer poster read, followed by 498 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: contact information for a group that monitors immigration operations in 499 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: the state. Father Stephen Josama, the pastor at States des 500 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: on A, reportedly told Fox that the church's Peace and 501 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: Justice Group puts together a display each year. 502 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: They tried to see what it would. 503 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Be like if Christ was born into the context of 504 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: the world today and asks what would he be facing. 505 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: The display's ultimate message is clear in a modern day context, Jesus, 506 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: his mother Mary, and earthly father Joseph would be considered migrants, 507 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: a family of refugees crossing borders only to face being 508 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: nabbed by law enforcement officers amid Trump's illegal immigration crackdown. 509 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: If that rubs you the wrong way, you're the problem, 510 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: at least according to Chosama, who told Fox that it's 511 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: a display of really just. 512 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: Art evokes a strong reaction. It's maybe good soon take 513 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: a look at that. 514 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: On Friday, the Archdiocese of Boston condemned the display, which 515 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: was reportedly put up without its permission. According to Fox, 516 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: the archdiocese secretary for Communications and Public Affairs issued a 517 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: statement calling for the display to be removed and the 518 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: manger restored to its proper sacred purpose. Ice acting director 519 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: todd lyonce has also spoken at against the politicized nativity. 520 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: On Monday, Josama defended the display and indicated it would 521 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: stay in place while waiting for an opportunity of dialogue 522 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: and clarity with Archbishop Richard Heading before reaching any final decisions. 523 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: As an aside here, I'll say I'm a Presbyterian. I 524 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for Catholics. 525 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: I really do. 526 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Some of my best friends are Catholic, and we talk 527 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: about the differences between the two sects of Christianity a lot. 528 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: But one of the key differences I know between Catholics 529 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: and Protestants and mainline Protestant denominations like Presbyterianism, is that 530 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: Catholics have a hierarchical structure to their church, with the 531 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: Pope being at the top of it. And I can't 532 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: speak smartly about it because I'm not Catholic, but I 533 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: know that it goes something like the Pope and then 534 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: cardinals and then bishops and then priests. 535 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: And you know, if. 536 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: You hear from higher in the Catholic Church that hey, guys, 537 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be doing that at the church and you 538 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: need to take it down. 539 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: They're supposed to follow those orders. 540 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: It's not the case in the Protestant it's more bottom 541 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: up in the Presbyterian Church. I can speak as a 542 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: Presbyterian as an elder at my church too. It's a 543 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: congregationally led church always. And even the presbytery, which supposed 544 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: which is somewhat regional that you know, has a bunch 545 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: of other churches under the umbrella of a presbytery. 546 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: We don't answer to them either. 547 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: They it's just a collective body that kind of you know, 548 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: has things under its umbrella. Anyway, this is absolutely nuts, 549 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: and we don't have time to get into it. Maybe 550 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 2: on the other side of the break the historical inaccuracy 551 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: of this ridiculousness, and next hour there might be some 552 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: updates too on the redistricting in Indiana, which I know 553 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: many of you live in. We will be right back 554 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: on Tony Katz today. I am my coolish in for 555 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: Tony to stay with us.