WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone hanging out with you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some Panther paranoia in the air, but we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with this over the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people texting in with bad feelings about

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers going to Philadelphia. About the folks that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see there or the team? That's twofold. That's twofold. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>heads on a swivel folks. Be careful, please. No doubt

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Y'all no doubt about it. Take to your head. Unbelievable. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will say this though, bone and our next

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<v Speaker 2>guest can attest. Sometimes a team is told going into

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<v Speaker 2>a game and enemy territory that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>so hostile. They will not be able to perform that.

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<v Speaker 2>They will fold under the pressure and, and Adam Gold

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to talk about that, Bone, after what

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<v Speaker 2>Manchester City did to his Liverpool football club over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Gold, 99-9 the fan in Raleigh. What's up, Goldie?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that Man City had to upset the entire

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<v Speaker 2>soccer world on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's all good. It's good to know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of those fans that don't care about rules. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love Liverpool's game. until the bogus sending off

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<v Speaker 1>of Ryan Gravenberg, who was the best player on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>until that point. But that's okay. Enjoy the points while

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<v Speaker 1>they count.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will. I think we will. We may

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<v Speaker 2>lose them, but I think we'll try to enjoy it now. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, let's talk about a little more closer-to-home sports

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I want to start with the Canes. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>because that felt personal. The Canes. I knew Goldie had

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<v Speaker 2>that snark right back. I mean, he's got plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>material to use. All right, Goldie, the Canes are on

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<v Speaker 2>fire right now. Five straight wins. They're beating the heck

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<v Speaker 2>out of Philly and then trolling the entire city on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, on their social account. I love it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about the way they're playing right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it seems like they've hit a groove.

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<v Speaker 1>The last five games have been very, very Canes-like. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they've dominated play in every phase. I actually think the

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<v Speaker 1>game on Sunday was the worst of the five, and

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<v Speaker 1>they won 4-1. I didn't think they were very good,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they were good, they scored. So it created

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<v Speaker 1>the separation. But combined, those five wins were over teams

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<v Speaker 1>with five total wins. Philly hasn't won yet. Montreal's got two.

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver's got two. I'm trying to think the other team

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<v Speaker 1>they beat. It doesn't really matter. Chicago has won. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like they beat the murderer's row. Tonight will

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<v Speaker 1>be a different test against the Washington Capitals. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love the way the team's playing, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>great anyway. And they're probably not that far away from

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<v Speaker 1>getting Seth Jarvis back.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam, there's a lot to talk about from the result

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<v Speaker 3>of Wake Forest and NC State this past Saturday. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the good for Wake Forest, but we'll start with the

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<v Speaker 3>negative for NC State and the blowout loss. How hot

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<v Speaker 3>is the seat for Dave Doran right now, and is

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<v Speaker 3>this the beginning of the end for him, do we think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dave Doran calls his own shot. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that. I think Dave will be the coach until

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<v Speaker 1>Dave doesn't want to be the coach. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I said that before David Cutcliffe as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And at some point, the administration basically has to take

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<v Speaker 1>the keys away. I'm not saying that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen with State because the season isn't over yet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>world if NC State ended the season with eight wins.

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<v Speaker 1>And an 8-4 team with the way they are Supported financially?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not the craziest thing that I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Dave has two problems. Dave's problem is messaging

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<v Speaker 1>to his fans, which he's not great at.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Except when they're winning. Now, when they're winning, man, they

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<v Speaker 1>love salty Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not winning enough. And, frankly, Wake Forest just

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<v Speaker 1>kicked their fannies. in the second half. They could not

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<v Speaker 1>stop them at all. Look at the five drives in

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<v Speaker 1>a row from the last drive of the first half

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<v Speaker 1>through the first four drives of the second half. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Forest went them through a goose, man. It was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. Goldie, I wanted to bring up about

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<v Speaker 2>Dave's message into the fans. And you're right. When they're

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<v Speaker 2>beating Carolina or they're winning big games and you get

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<v Speaker 2>solo cup and cigar, Dave, oh my God, NC State

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<v Speaker 2>fans love it. But that answer the other day to

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<v Speaker 2>a truly legitimate question about why the heck against opponents

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<v Speaker 2>not named Richmond, they are getting obliterated in the second

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<v Speaker 2>half of games. And him acting like, oh, it's execution,

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<v Speaker 2>which to me is blaming players, can't be lack of

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<v Speaker 2>adjustments or other teams adjust. Like, that can't be what

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<v Speaker 2>fans want to hear, man.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not what anybody wants to hear. Sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've used this with Roy Williams all the time. Roy Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>who is, I don't know, one of the top six, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>eight coaches in the history of college basketball. When his

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<v Speaker 1>team played poorly... It was never about them. It was

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<v Speaker 1>always about him. Now, he might not have been telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, but your fans want to know that you

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<v Speaker 1>are not, you are being accountable. And Dave, whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>right or not, and my assumption is he's probably more

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<v Speaker 1>right than not, is that you still can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't couch accountability by saying, well, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a better job of helping them execute because

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<v Speaker 1>you're essentially saying, yeah, it's them, not me. And fans

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear that. And so again, he might

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<v Speaker 1>be right, but you can't say it. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that bothered me was when they asked him, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you have made, what do you make of wake doing

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<v Speaker 1>this with their resources? And Dave pretended to not know

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<v Speaker 1>that wake is, barely funding their football program.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not know that? Oh, yeah, that was shameless.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he knows it, but he doesn't want to admit

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<v Speaker 1>it to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if you acknowledge that you got, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely shoved into you by a team that was

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<v Speaker 1>funded maybe a third of what you're funded, that's, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that. And he refused to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a good question. And by the way, Wink, It's, like,

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately good. I don't think they're, you know, playoff good,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're legitimately good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that was my question. How much are you buying

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<v Speaker 3>into the playoff chatter? There are some projections. SI.com has

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<v Speaker 3>them as a playoff team. Why aren't you buying in

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<v Speaker 3>as the Deacs as a second team out of the ACC?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'll do that. I'll do that if they keep winning. But,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think they're going 11-1.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking with Adam Gold, 99-9. Excuse me for asking.

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<v Speaker 2>In Raleigh. We had a suspicion Goldie would not play

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<v Speaker 2>your Wake Forest playoff game. I said there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>Goldie's buying into Wake's playoff team. They have to go 11-1.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the problem is, on top of that, they

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<v Speaker 2>probably have to beat Miami in a rematch in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like, 11-2 with losses to Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>as good as Miami is, they're going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>three-loss SEC team instead, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if Lake Forest losses, I mean, like, if we

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<v Speaker 1>want to play out this mental exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, now we got them in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, they could lose at Cal. very easily

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a tricky one.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Wake's only two losses are to Miami, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you think so? Okay. Well, there we go, Bone.

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<v Speaker 2>We got that. Right in this town. They're a playoff

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<v Speaker 2>team if their.

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<v Speaker 1>Only two losses are to Miami. arguably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top three teams in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is, will they have a ranked win? That's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. It's possible they can go this whole season

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<v Speaker 2>and not have a ranked win and two losses to Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Who freaking cares if they don't have a ranked win?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Louisville was ranked at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>They have SMU, but they need to hang on desperately

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<v Speaker 3>to their ranking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no mechanism. Zero mechanism. For the strength of your schedule. None.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they decide to hold wake to it, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to scream nonstop for three months about how

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<v Speaker 1>fraudulent the system is. Because Indiana didn't play a damn

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<v Speaker 1>soul two years ago. Not a soul. So... Wake Forest

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<v Speaker 1>non-conference schedule is better than Indiana's was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They just kicked everybody's rear end, just like Wake's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. See, Bo, not only do we get

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<v Speaker 2>Goldie to engage on Wake's playoff chances, I now gave

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<v Speaker 2>him a hypothetical. scenario by which he would scream at

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<v Speaker 2>folks on behalf of Wake. He's riding that motorcycle like

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<v Speaker 2>a deacon. What do you think about UNC getting a

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<v Speaker 2>win against Pitt? And now I'm sensing from some of

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<v Speaker 2>our UNC texters that I'm sensing they think they might

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<v Speaker 2>be able to get the victory bell and make it

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<v Speaker 2>two upsets in a row. How are you feeling about that?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I expected from Bill Belichick. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they're great by any stretch of the imagination, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of the opposite. This is not about Dave Dorn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about most college coaches. Most college coaches aren't as

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<v Speaker 1>good as Bill Belichick is. at managing and winning games

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<v Speaker 1>in the margins. And that's where I think Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>was always going to have an advantage at the college level.

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<v Speaker 1>There would be a game or maybe two per year

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<v Speaker 1>that he would steal because of the way he does

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<v Speaker 1>things and the way he has teams prepared to win

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<v Speaker 1>those games in the margins. And that's where they beat Pitt.

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<v Speaker 1>They let Pitt make mistakes. I still don't understand. Pat Narduzzi...

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<v Speaker 1>You know your quarterback is terrible, right? So whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>are presented with the opportunity to get points, take them.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you're going for it on fourth down at the

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<v Speaker 1>21-yard line is beyond me. I don't care that there's

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<v Speaker 1>four and a quarter left. Just take the three. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the ball back, which they did twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill is brilliant as a football coach, especially in games.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got good enough players. They can take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think they're going to beat Duke? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a heck of a game. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see how Duke handles Jelani Thurman, Jordan Shipp, three really

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<v Speaker 1>good running backs. Duke has to find another way besides

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Shepard. That's what scared me about Georgia Tech, that

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to take Nate Shepard out of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and as best as you can, they did. And Duke

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to beat them without using Nate Shepard exclusively.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Goldie, we appreciate it. Goldie, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>people are not mad at you on the text line.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an amazing appearance on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to hear this one guy's comment, though, Goldie?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how this is possible. Goldie sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>a bald man.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you tell by a voice if a man

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<v Speaker 2>is bald or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I sound aerodynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. All right. Goldie would pass the wind

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<v Speaker 2>tunnel test, baby. No doubt about it. Goldie, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>did get this text, though. This dude says, I could

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<v Speaker 2>hear it in Goldie's voice. The second Mac did the

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<v Speaker 2>arrogant Man City fan routine shamelessly, despite 114 guilty charges,

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<v Speaker 2>Goldie lost respect for Mac. Is that true? No. Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 2>I was worried about that for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you become a City fan?

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<v Speaker 2>2018?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know from City. Right when the charges stopped happening.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still benefiting from the cheating, but still, you became

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<v Speaker 1>a City fan, right, after they had already established themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the betters sides in the Premier League.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know that they were once down in League One.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do now. I know all the history now.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we all do. So they cheated to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the club. Which I totally understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the rules were established so teams like them can't

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<v Speaker 2>get in the club.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules are awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I just, Goldie, I just wanted to clear that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got worried there. Goldie lost respect for me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Because Bone and Fitty lost

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<v Speaker 2>respect for me years ago, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>lose it from you, too. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Chelsea fan. Like, I got zero respect for Chelsea. Oh!

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<v Speaker 2>Man! That's a stray. I'm just minding my own business.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for reminding me who I root for. Goldie,

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<v Speaker 2>you are the man, brother. We'll talk to you next week. Later, brother.