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Speaker 2: So that, oh my goodness, Hammer, we had some state

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Speaker 1: So it's not really called the Beckwith bill, but it

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Speaker 2: So the person coming up with this bill doesn't like

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Speaker 1: Indiana State Rep. Danny Lopez is the man that is

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Speaker 1: I don't recall that the Rob Kendall rule.

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Speaker 2: There's several different nicknames for a situation surroundings.

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Speaker 1: He's a bull and a china shop. Yeah, and some

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Speaker 1: That's House Bill ten twenty two, we're calling it the

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I know Rob Kendall didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendle doesn't like anything it, doesn't like Christmas, doesn't

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Speaker 1: You know, what do they want to do?

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Speaker 1: death going that song sucks, no, but it's the truth.

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Speaker 2: I think they just did this as a tribute almost okay,

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Speaker 2: which is fine.

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Speaker 1: So we got one minute left here, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to defer to you, mister alternative rock music, mister rock DJ.

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Speaker 1: Give me the Mountain. We're well aware, and I tried

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Speaker 1: not to mention that, just like I tried not to

444
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Speaker 1: mention the terrorist that got arrested. Give me the mount

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Speaker 1: rushmore of grunge.

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Speaker 2: Bands, well, I mean, I think Nirvana is on top,

447
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Speaker 2: but that whole era of Nirvana and Alison Chains and

448
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Speaker 2: Stone Temple pilots, and.

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Speaker 1: I need four Pearl Jam one through four. I gotta

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Speaker 1: rank them, oh Man, Pearl Jam, probably Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam, Havana, Nirvana,

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00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: those are interchangeable. Man, I don't know Alison chains and

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Speaker 1: Stone Temple pilots.

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Speaker 2: Okay, those are mine. Those are mine. No Sound Garden, blessed.

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Speaker 2: I wish I forgot about Soundgarden.

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Speaker 1: X one O three, my ass. That's the hammer in Nigel.

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Speaker 2: Show about a little good news hammer to start out

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Speaker 2: this segment right ready, let's do it. New unemployment claims

458
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: were filed by the fewest Americans in over three years.

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Speaker 2: Last week, far fewer than economists had been expecting. Turns

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Speaker 2: out when you threatened to take away those snat metis

461
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: oh krap, better get off my ass start filling out

462
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Speaker 2: some applications.

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Speaker 1: There's an old quote by former IU coach Bob Knight

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Speaker 1: that the biggest motivator is the bench. The bench is

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Speaker 1: the biggest motivator. But I think when it comes to

466
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Speaker 1: the lazy community, the biggest motivator is them fearing that

467
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Speaker 1: they're not going to get their quote free money for

468
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Speaker 1: their bags of Cheetos. So I guess they better go

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Speaker 1: out and find work like everybody else.

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Speaker 2: So I and look, there are people that need it,

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Speaker 2: and there are people that absolutely benefit from it. I've

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Speaker 2: taken unemployment before, but I didn't. It wasn't like your lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: It was you didn't choose to just not go find

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Speaker 2: a job. It was only a few hundred bucks a week.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand. It was very convoluted and very cumbersome

478
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Speaker 2: when trying to do that through the website. And that

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00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: happened in twenty thirteen. Maybe sure, so so I mean.

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Speaker 1: Everybody goes to a stretch where you get fired or

481
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Speaker 1: you're down on your luck. I get that, but there

482
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Speaker 1: are some people, and let not act like this isn't happening,

483
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Speaker 1: that are just fat, lazy pieces of crap that refuse

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Speaker 1: to go look for a job. I applied.

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen. I applied at Low's in Whitestown and

486
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Speaker 2: never got a call back. You and I had been

487
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Speaker 2: doing the podcast for a while, right, twenty thirteen, that's

488
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Speaker 2: around that time.

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Speaker 1: We were doing podcast stuff long before it was cool.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, so so I it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was out there, you know, take advantage,

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Speaker 2: taking advantage of the system.

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Speaker 1: I was actively I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I would have worked anywhere right, just to even help

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Speaker 2: the wife out a little bit. She had a job

497
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Speaker 2: to we're dual income, but we have kids. But never

498
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Speaker 2: got to call it back from Lows.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it worked out for it, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still a little salty Lows.

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Speaker 2: Like I couldn't have gone back, you know, I had logistics,

502
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Speaker 2: a background. I couldn't have gone and just you know,

503
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Speaker 2: hopped on a forklift in the in the warehouse out back. No, No,

504
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Speaker 2: it was during Christmas for God's sake. Kick Rocks kid,

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Speaker 2: We'll keep your information on file. We've all heard that before, right,

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Speaker 2: But no, this is good news. One hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: one thousand initial claims for unemployment benefits in the week

508
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Speaker 2: that included Thanksgiving. Department of Labor and Economics had forecasted

509
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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five thousand, so they thought it'd

510
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Speaker 2: be two hundred and twenty five thousand.

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Speaker 1: It was one hundred and ninety one. That's good. That's

512
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Speaker 1: good news. Last night on CNN, this was on Jake

513
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Speaker 1: Tapper's program, yet Ill hand omar on.

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Speaker 2: She's a wonderful person.

515
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Speaker 1: She was brought in to talk about all the fraud

516
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Speaker 1: that's going on with the Smallly funding in the greater

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Speaker 1: Minnesota area. So Jake Tapper bills. Jake Tapper, in a

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Speaker 1: rare moment of journalism, asks right to her face, how

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Speaker 1: this fraud got so out of control?

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Speaker 9: Can you shed any light on why the fraud got

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Speaker 9: so out of control in Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: I think what happened is that, you know, when you

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Speaker 3: have these kind of new programs that are designed to

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Speaker 3: help people, you're oftentimes relying on third parties to be

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Speaker 3: able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot

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Speaker 3: of the COVID programs that were set up, they were

527
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Speaker 3: set up so quickly that a lot of the garden

528
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Speaker 3: hills did not get created.

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Speaker 1: What anybody understand? That word salad? Nonsensical bull crap that

530
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Speaker 1: came out of il hand Omar's mouth right there, like

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Speaker 1: she was just finding words left and right and throwing

532
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Speaker 1: them out there. Kamala Harris thought that was a word salad,

533
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Speaker 1: Like in my mind knowledge, this is exactly what it

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Speaker 1: sounded like.

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Speaker 9: Okay, can you shed any light on why the fraud

536
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Speaker 9: got so out of control in Minnesota?

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Speaker 6: I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do

538
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Speaker 6: so because sense people out there in our nation don't

539
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Speaker 6: have that. And I believe that our education like such

540
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Speaker 6: as South Africa and Iraq everywhere like such a I

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Speaker 6: believe that they should Our education over here in the

542
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Speaker 6: US should help the US, or should help South Africa,

543
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Speaker 6: and should help DIRAC in the Asian countries so we

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Speaker 6: will be able to build up our future.

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Speaker 2: I actually understand and Jake Tapper's question, I have the

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Speaker 2: answer to that. Jake Tapper's question now after hearing.

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Speaker 1: Her so Rider ill han Omar or missed teen South

548
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Speaker 1: Carolina from about a decade ago.

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Speaker 2: Please miss teen? Yeah, much more coherent.

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Speaker 1: According to a new survey, eighteen percent of adults made

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00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions in twenty twenty five, and of the

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Speaker 1: eighteen percent, only about nine percent kept their resolution. So

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Speaker 1: my question to you, are you a resolution guy? Are

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Speaker 1: you one of these New Year, New me people? Do

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Speaker 1: you set any goals or anything like that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Not really.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've lost a significant amount of weight.

559
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Speaker 2: I was at my heaviest in twenty twenty four. I'm

560
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Speaker 2: down to about two fifteen two fourteen. You are down

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Speaker 2: as well. I think that was probably the biggest thing. Yes,

562
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Speaker 2: that was the biggest thing for me. And then my

563
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: numbers in terms of cholesterol and blood pressure are down.

564
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Speaker 2: So that kind of old guy stuff guys in their

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Speaker 2: late forties kind of thing I did. I did have

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Speaker 2: a significant thing in twenty twenty five where I was

567
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Speaker 2: I was consciously going to make an effort to improve

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Speaker 2: those numbers, which you know, through weight loss medication, through

569
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Speaker 2: maybe tamping down the imbibing just a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He became more of a binge drinker as opposed to

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Speaker 1: it all the time, raging alcoholic.

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Speaker 2: I don't know there's a difference there, but I see

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Speaker 2: what you're saying. Yes, for me, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's the weight loss, it's the health. There are some

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Speaker 1: career goals that you know, I keep to myself ways

577
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Speaker 1: I want to grow this show, ways, I want to

578
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Speaker 1: grow the brand. But then I set some realistic ones,

579
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Speaker 1: like I want to drink more beer, Like I want

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Speaker 1: to have more shots at work. So the opposite of

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Speaker 1: what right, I want to make sure that I feel

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Speaker 1: good about myself at the end of the year if

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Speaker 1: I've attained something. So I said it a little bit

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Speaker 1: of low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 2: Sure, right there, Sure, Tony writes in at h Hammer

586
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Speaker 2: and Nigel, what's our email account? Hammer and Nigel Hammer

587
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Speaker 2: WBC dot com, Camery Nigel WIBC dot com. Tony just

588
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: wrote in my resolution was to lose ten pounds, only

589
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Speaker 2: fifteen more to go.

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Speaker 1: Keep at it, my friend, dreams can come true, Tony. Well,

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Speaker 1: for those who upset the goal of drinking more, Yes, Nige,

592
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Speaker 1: you need a reason to drink tonight. Sure Thursday, best

593
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Speaker 1: day of the week. Happy fifty sixth birthday to rapper

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Speaker 1: jay Z j Z is is fifty six. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play a little game here. I've got a

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Speaker 1: seven song jay Z montage producer, Alison. I've set the

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Speaker 1: over under at four and a half jay Z songs

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Speaker 1: that I think you've heard of four and a half

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Speaker 1: out of a seven song montage. Now you're more of

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Speaker 1: a pop and country music gal, but these are popular

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Speaker 1: jay Z songs. So nige over under over over so five. Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's honor system as always, Allison. If you've heard of it,

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Speaker 1: let us know. Okay, here we go. You sit, yes,

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Speaker 1: three for three.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 4: Alison, heard this one more?

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Speaker 1: We cash? Come on, Allison, we knew when Jim no

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Speaker 1: no I heard this one more? Just for sports?

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Speaker 7: Can I get.

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Speaker 10: Next?

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Speaker 1: For Lincoln Park? John all right? Good job, Allison.

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Speaker 6: Proud to that.

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Speaker 1: Not too bad at all.

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Speaker 7: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 2: Is this anything? Alright's rock and roll and we're brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Indiana Unclaimed, presented by the Attorney General's Office.

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Speaker 2: Here in Indiana, the Attorney General's Office reuniting Hoosiers with

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Speaker 2: over one million dollars in unclaimed property every single week, fast,

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Speaker 2: easy and free to search at Indiana Unclaimed dot go.

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Speaker 1: Is this anything? And this day and age of everybody

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Speaker 1: having cameras on their house, ring, doorbells, blank systems, video

623
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Speaker 1: surveillance everywhere, kind of hard to get away with this

624
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: these days. A door dash driver in Florida dropped a

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Speaker 1: chicken wing on the street, picked it up, put it

626
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Speaker 1: back in the box, licked his fingers, and it was

627
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Speaker 1: all caught on camera. Here's the homeowner, Srina, talking about

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Speaker 1: what happened.

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Speaker 8: She said, Mom, all he had to do was knock

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Speaker 8: on the door and say, hey, it was really one

631
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Speaker 8: bonus wing out of twelve that dropped on the ground.

632
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Speaker 8: I dropped this. I just wanted to let you know.

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Speaker 8: If he can't deliver food with do care, then maybe

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Speaker 8: there's something else stop there for him to do. Secondly,

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Speaker 8: on door dash behalf, I'm not really sure what the

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Speaker 8: training is, you know, but maybe it's time to bring

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Speaker 8: the drivers in or require them to have some type

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Speaker 8: of training.

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Speaker 2: Three words, five second rule. Boom lady, So you got

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Speaker 2: a chicken tender that had been previously dropped on your

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Speaker 2: concrete driveway, sorry about it now. I Look, i'd be

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Speaker 2: pissed off about that too if I caught that on camera,

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Speaker 2: and I would have appreciated honesty from the driver. Look,

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Speaker 2: one of these dropped on the ground. I just kicked

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Speaker 2: it to the side. I don't know that I would

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Speaker 2: have put it back in there. I will say, working

647
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Speaker 2: at Burger King at the age of sixteen, at a

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Speaker 2: very tender age, we had like specialty items sometimes that

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Speaker 2: would come around. We're like, we had like a s

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Speaker 2: fried shrimp that was only available for a limited time,

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Speaker 2: and you're only allowed to put so many in the

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Speaker 2: deep fryer at a time. And I accidentally dropped one

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Speaker 2: on the floor for an order, and I picked it

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Speaker 2: right back up and put it right in the basket.

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Speaker 1: How long was it on the floor, less than five seconds?

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Speaker 1: I'll allow it. Five second rule. I don't make the rules.

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Speaker 1: I just abide by society.

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Speaker 2: Awful, greasy, dirty, I mean, it's just the nature of

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Speaker 2: the business in fast food there in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: True. But let's say you drop it in the driveway,

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Speaker 1: but there's some dog poop near Yeah, then I'm not

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Speaker 1: abiding by the five second rule. Like poop overrides the

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Speaker 1: five second rule.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I would I would like skim off the top

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Speaker 2: of those chicken tenders in burger king all the time,

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Speaker 2: Like somebody orders some around the chicken tenders generally supposed

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Speaker 2: to put like an eight or nine in the deep fryer.

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Speaker 2: I'd go ten or eleven and set a couple off

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Speaker 2: to the side. Okay, Oh, I like, if like I was,

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Speaker 2: I was laundering chicken tenders, you.

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Speaker 1: Are like a mafia guy laundering and skimming off the top.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever give somebody more chicken tenders than you

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Speaker 1: were supposed to? Almost? Like, yeah, you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: I think I've told this story before. Somebody came through

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Speaker 2: in order to Whopper Junior extra pickles, and I just

676
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Speaker 2: took my hand and just loaded it up with pickles

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Speaker 2: and slammed it on that that Dwopper Junior like like

678
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Speaker 2: it was a joke. Like I think they only would

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Speaker 2: like four or five. I had a fistful of pickles.

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Speaker 2: Did they complain?

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Speaker 1: Nope, they got what they wanted. They just quietly put

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Speaker 1: you on a people to kill list and went on

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Speaker 1: with their day. Is this anything? A New Zealand TV

684
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Speaker 1: reporter was wrapping up a shot when a bird flew

685
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Speaker 1: into her face. Oh no, take a listen, Waldrove is

686
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Speaker 1: going to be short lived.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Oh my god, yeah am I Oh?

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Speaker 2: Somehow I think this bird survived the run in with

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Speaker 2: the reporter, unlike Randy Johnson several years ago when he

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Speaker 2: was in the middle of the Major League baseball game.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that Alison had never seen the

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Speaker 1: Randy Johnson bird video up until like a couple of

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Speaker 1: months ago. Like she was looking at us like, what

695
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Speaker 1: are you talking about? And we made her watch it.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this? Yeah? And I thought it was

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Speaker 1: ai at first. It was so funny. I've never seen that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that bird disintegrated. It wasn't like the ball

699
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Speaker 1: hit bird. Oh no, It's like a poof, poof, just

700
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Speaker 1: gone feathers up there. It was like a magician had

701
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Speaker 1: just done a trick. That bird was gone.

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Speaker 2: Man, this bird very lucky that that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with

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Speaker 2: a very special studio guests.

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Speaker 1: He's been kind enough to join us every couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks at least once a month here on The Hammer

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Speaker 1: and Nigel Show. This entire year.

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Speaker 2: You need to come up with a name for this segment,

710
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Speaker 2: like beers with Braun.

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Speaker 1: Maybe is that right? Perhaps Governor Mike Braun joins us

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Speaker 1: in studio, and I know time is limited here, so

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Speaker 1: let's dive right into it. What are you What are

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Speaker 1: your staff members hearing about the changing of the congressional

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Speaker 1: maps since the last time you joined us in studio.

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Speaker 1: The Senate pro Tim rob Bray has done a one

717
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Speaker 1: eighty and now he's bringing the Senate back. A lot

718
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Speaker 1: of people have different theories as to why what are

719
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Speaker 1: you hearing?

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Speaker 5: So I think his reason is still not known. But

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Speaker 5: I think the big impetus there was one the House

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Speaker 5: that they had the votes and they're coming back and

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Speaker 5: they're going to do fair map, and I think at

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Speaker 5: that point he probably knew too. We'll see tomorrow what

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Speaker 5: the margin is, but we're expecting a pretty overwhelming vote

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Speaker 5: there in the House. And they've worked closely together over

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Speaker 5: the years, and I think that the House and Speaker

728
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Speaker 5: Houston have just been more in touch with our own

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Speaker 5: Republican voters, conservative voters in this state. And I think

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Speaker 5: early on, I think the clock was being worked a

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Speaker 5: lot of different methods were being used, but I think

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Speaker 5: when it came down to Speaker Houston saying we're coming in,

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Speaker 5: and that then put a different dynamic into it. And

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Speaker 5: then as that has kind of transpired, you've seen it's

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Speaker 5: gone through. It was attempted to be amended many times

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Speaker 5: a day. None of those worked.

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Speaker 3: It was a.

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Speaker 5: High percentage of only Democrats, I believe on those amendments.

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Speaker 5: And tomorrow we'll see. And I think then it puts

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Speaker 5: even more burden on the Senate for the relationship that

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Speaker 5: they have down the road between Chambers and I think

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Speaker 5: once it became public the reasons fart have been fleshed

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Speaker 5: out more. I get text Aliday, Well, I've seen you

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Speaker 5: on Newsmax on Fox on your show explaining it why

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Speaker 5: and then the reason why is that they've done it

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Speaker 5: and now hypocritically are against it and have done it

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Speaker 5: for decades. And if you look at the map nationally,

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Speaker 5: I think somehow they think this has to do with

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Speaker 5: our own state. This has nothing to do with our states.

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Speaker 5: This is a macro This is a macro discussion, an

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Speaker 5: electoral one. Yes that they do not pull any punches.

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Speaker 5: They have gerrymandered it like I've said many times on

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Speaker 5: this show to where they can't do it anymore, and

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Speaker 5: the loud, vocal oppositions from Democrats and liberal, moderate independent.

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Speaker 5: So here we are.

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Speaker 1: Hearing a lot of local report orders from various different

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Speaker 1: media outlets saying that if the Senate were voting right

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Speaker 1: now today, on December fourth, they would not have the votes.

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Speaker 1: It would be a no right now. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: anything like that? Are you talking to people? Are your

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Speaker 1: staff members talking to people?

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Speaker 5: I don't think most of the public realized that it

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Speaker 5: was split evenly as of when they took that adjournment vote,

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Speaker 5: it would have been understood, well, it's not even close.

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Speaker 5: But whenever you have half of your caucus for something

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Speaker 5: and half against, it's generally going to be people wanting

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Speaker 5: to do it, leadership digging in on not wanting to

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Speaker 5: do it, and then when you did it outside of

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Speaker 5: the framework of a public discussion, you could hide behind that.

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Speaker 5: So I think that there's been more and more pressure

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Speaker 5: from outside from within. A large majority of who's your

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Speaker 5: Republicans want to do it, and that is clear, and

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Speaker 5: that's gained as we've discussed it and brought it to

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Speaker 5: this culmination.

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Speaker 2: No guarantee though, if this passes through the Senate, this

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Speaker 2: all happens, the redrawing of the maps, there's no guarantee

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Speaker 2: that those two seats are going to flip, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like we're all sitting

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Speaker 2: here high five in each other and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you know, but there's still just no guarantee, is.

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Speaker 5: There, assuming the Senate does the right thing. Yes, and

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Speaker 5: you can look the odds up. It's very high percentage

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Speaker 5: unless you'd really have a candidate that didn't make sense

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Speaker 5: and you get a couple of those dandies now and

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Speaker 5: then and otherwise, I mean, it's really high that it

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Speaker 5: would do then what it's done in all the blue

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Speaker 5: states that have almost the same kind of arithmetic. Massachusetts

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Speaker 5: would be the best comparison because we're almost identical and

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Speaker 5: they've not had a Republican bust through there in a

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Speaker 5: long long time.

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Speaker 1: Governor Mike Brawn with us in studio here on the

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Speaker 1: Hammer in Nigel's show. You can watch it live on

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Speaker 1: the YouTube camera or just turn your radio up here.

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Speaker 1: Either way, we appreciate you. How is your relationship today

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Speaker 1: with the Senate pro Tem Rod Bray? I feel like

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Speaker 1: the last time we spoke it wasn't in a great

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Speaker 1: place since then, like we talked about he said, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring the Senate back. There are some

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Speaker 1: people that feel like he's doing that because he knows

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the votes and he thinks it will

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Speaker 1: be something embarrassing onto you take me through your relationship.

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Speaker 5: I think you're probably reading too deeply into that theory.

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Speaker 5: I think here, this is no different than what they did,

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Speaker 5: and I've talked about it before, giving USB one which

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Speaker 5: we were going to have to negotiate probably away from

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Speaker 5: that to get Remember it passed with two Senate votes,

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Speaker 5: so it would been him and leadership that made that

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Speaker 5: a difficult navigation. If you remember that took about three months.

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Speaker 5: This is almost about the same timeframe here. I'm surprised

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Speaker 5: that they haven't taken the queue, because let's say they don't,

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Speaker 5: this is not the end of it. Do you think

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Speaker 5: the White House is going to just drop the issue

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Speaker 5: when they've come in twice with the Vice President twice

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Speaker 5: with phone calls.

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Speaker 1: You guys have gone there, Yes, So.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean it's over like you can get that

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Speaker 5: off of your agenda. It just then becomes a different

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Speaker 5: type of a pursuit, and it's a longer term possibly,

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Speaker 5: And I don't think it'd be a dead issue even

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Speaker 5: in the session when it starts in January. So I

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Speaker 5: think all of that would make you wonder why they

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Speaker 5: die on that hill. Now when there have been more

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Speaker 5: people for it, you're not losing people that we're far

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Speaker 5: it in the first place, and we're gaining momentum, and

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Speaker 5: you can see it across a wide spectrum.

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Speaker 2: One of the positions is I've heard that even Republicans

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Speaker 2: say that we don't want Washington, d C. Pushing us around.

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Speaker 2: Is there an answer to that?

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Speaker 5: I think that would be from the part of our party.

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Speaker 5: It was never really bought into America first, and are

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Speaker 5: still hanging on to maybe establishment politics. But look how

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Speaker 5: that worked in sixteen. I mean, there were fifteen candidates

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Speaker 5: that would have been in that posture, all of them

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Speaker 5: taken out of the political scene. And then you can

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Speaker 5: see what's happened since then. The first term we got

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Speaker 5: a real dose of really what works, Biden nomics and

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Speaker 5: all of that, and obviously that was such a poor seller.

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Speaker 5: You know, Trump got re elected and now you've got

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Speaker 5: some of those old Rhino Republicans that still are living

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Speaker 5: in that world. That's not the current world of conservative politics.

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Speaker 5: Turning Points coming in tomorrow, and I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: speaking there the youngest part.

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Speaker 1: Tell them they were Hoosiers, not Indiana Ends, though, please,

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Speaker 1: because they made that mistake already. What's at that turning point?

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Speaker 1: USA put out a tweet and they said, hey, Indiana Ends,

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Speaker 1: you need to make sure you're contacting your representatives like

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Speaker 1: we have the same goal we got. I want nine

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Speaker 1: to zero. But you can't cost Indiana.

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Speaker 5: We've got We've got probably more chapters per capita of

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Speaker 5: turning point groups across our state. That's resonating everywhere. And again,

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Speaker 5: remember this is a national concern. We're not talking about

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Speaker 5: state and Senate or rep and Senate districts. This is

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Speaker 5: part of the electoral college that we play within.

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Speaker 1: Health Virginia is trying to change theirs from like six

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Speaker 1: five to ten to one.

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Speaker 5: And the to me, it's a hid to hypocrisy that

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Speaker 5: you're complaining about it when you've done it to the

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Speaker 5: limit and you know you can't go much further. So

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Speaker 5: it's that discussion.

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Speaker 1: One more thing here before we let you go. We

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Speaker 1: were talking a little bit earlier about the unemployment numbers

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Speaker 1: that were released. At a national level, unemployment was a

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Speaker 1: little lower. People had a smaller number. We're filing for benefits.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing here. How was Indiana doing as

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Speaker 1: we're in this holiday season? I know money can get

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Speaker 1: tight into the year, things can get tight jobs compared

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Speaker 1: to wages inflation.

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Speaker 5: How are we doing so Black Friday you had retail

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Speaker 5: sales up nine percent online, four to five percent brick

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Speaker 5: and mortar. That's about as good as we've had in

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Speaker 5: recent times. When you look at a state like ours,

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Speaker 5: where the budget austerity that was based upon tariffs, that's

873
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: all been dissipated. So our state government is cash flowing

874
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: much better with real revenues coming in than what the

875
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 5: budget indicated it would. And that's because we're doing things already.

876
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 5: Like when it comes to how we incentivize building our economy,

877
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: we have taken those incentivizing money that we were spending

878
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: fifty five thousand dollars per job, yielding a thirty six

879
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 5: dollars in our wage. We're spending one third as much

880
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 5: and we bump that pay up to forty one bucks.

881
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: Those are just a few of the things. So our

882
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 5: unemployment rate compared to our peer group Midwestern states is good,

883
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Speaker 5: and the fact that we're running state government with a

884
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Speaker 5: lot more efficiency, that'll be the dividend of how we

885
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Speaker 5: pay for lower taxes down the road. The last twelve years,

886
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: I don't think there's been much attention to running our

887
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Speaker 5: own state government like a business would run it. I've

888
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Speaker 5: got a crew in there now that is doing it,

889
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: and you're going to see increasing benefits from it. And

890
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: our economy here in the state is already in this

891
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: short period of time since our crew has been here,

892
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Speaker 5: is spending less and getting more and has got a

893
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Speaker 5: strong ecomomy.

894
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: You need to get some businesses back in these buildings

895
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: though down.

896
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: Town, and that's going to be a function of what

897
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Speaker 5: happens here, because if you don't do better in terms

898
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: of addressing hopelessness crime on the streets, those leases are

899
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 5: not going to be renewed. And I'm going to have

900
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Speaker 5: conversations with the mayor on those to see how we

901
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 5: may be able to work jointly. It is our state capital,

902
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Speaker 5: and I've had a lot of people way in and

903
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 5: we've already had that discussion a time or two. So

904
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Speaker 5: I'm hoping there that they go forward with some plans

905
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Speaker 5: that they've got out there that they've talked about, put

906
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Speaker 5: some funding behind it, because if we don't, those leases

907
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Speaker 5: won't be renewed, Businesses will move outside of the downtown,

908
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Speaker 5: and we'll have to rely on convention business mostly, which

909
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Speaker 5: is not as good as businesses down.

910
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Last thing, I know I promised last thing like two

911
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Speaker 1: questions ago, but seriously, last thing here on the subject

912
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Speaker 1: of budget and taxes. I was speaking to some of

913
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Speaker 1: your staff members yesterday about this. I think there's a

914
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Speaker 1: lot of Hoosiers that feel like, because the big beautiful

915
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Speaker 1: bill will pass through and Donald Trump got that through

916
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Speaker 1: at a national level, everything is in place right now,

917
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Speaker 1: that's not the case because a lot of people who

918
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Speaker 1: have worked over time are wondering are they going to

919
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: have to pay taxes on it? Or you know, the

920
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: no tax on tips thing that the President wanted in

921
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Speaker 1: that big beautiful bill, that's not happening until a budget

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Speaker 1: session in Indiana correct it.

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Speaker 5: It would happen, then in states would have to choose

924
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Speaker 5: to do it. They'd make their own calculations that if

925
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Speaker 5: that's going to cut back revenues or is it going

926
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Speaker 5: to stimulate the economy. I'm going to be one that's

927
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Speaker 5: always trying to take taxes down, do things that would

928
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Speaker 5: keep more money in our own hoosiers pockets, and we

929
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 5: will be managing our cash flow in away that We're

930
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 5: going to enhance stuff like we just put out which

931
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Speaker 5: we didn't talk about, that new mothers can bring their

932
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Speaker 5: infants in to work, and we're doing that on a

933
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Speaker 5: trial basis. Earlier this year, I did an executive order

934
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Speaker 5: that extends paid maternity leave up to ten to twelve weeks.

935
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Speaker 5: We're going to be pro family. We're going to do

936
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Speaker 5: it make things easier. Childcare is an issue. High healthcare

937
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Speaker 5: costs are an issue, and we've talked about probably what

938
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Speaker 5: many people are complaining about more than anything would be

939
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Speaker 5: high utility costs.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

941
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Speaker 5: You're about ready to hear three new appointments to the

942
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Speaker 5: iu r C that are going to be rate payer

943
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Speaker 5: conscious like it's never been done before.

944
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Speaker 1: There, Governor Mike Brown with us. Thank you so much

945
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Speaker 1: for your time. If we don't see you before the holiday,

946
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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and your family, and we'll talk

947
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Speaker 1: again soon. You bet it's the Hammer and Nigel show.

948
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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Chason Hammer over there with special

949
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Speaker 2: guest in studio and a special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 1: Governor Mike Braun in studio with us this afternoon and

951
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Speaker 1: joining us on the hotline. Senator Jim Banks, Senator, how

952
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: are you, my friend?

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Speaker 11: Well, I would much rather be there in the studio

954
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Speaker 11: with all of you in Indiana than here in Washington, DC.

955
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Speaker 11: I'm told regularly that Governor Braun, my predecessor, the former Senator,

956
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Speaker 11: is much happier in Indiana than he was in Washington.

957
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Speaker 11: So Z, I take a page from that book, and

958
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Speaker 11: I wish I was there with all of you instead

959
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Speaker 11: of here.

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Speaker 1: I will second that motion, Senator. Let's get into it here.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, the political left is trying to make

962
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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseeth the boogeyman, the Secretary of War, Pete Hesyth,

963
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Speaker 1: some sort of boogeyman because he wants to blow up

964
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Speaker 1: Venezuelan drug dealers. Like, I'm no political strategist, but this

965
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a smart idea from the political left.

966
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Speaker 1: What say you?

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00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 11: Seventy one percent of Americans support striking these drug boats

968
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Speaker 11: and stopping narco terrorists from flooding poison into the country

969
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Speaker 11: before it gets here. And I bet there are more

970
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Speaker 11: Hoosiers than that, even more than seventy one percent of

971
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Speaker 11: Hoosiers who are common sense people who understand that President

972
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Speaker 11: Trump is stopping it from coming here to begin with.

973
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Speaker 11: And Secretary of War Heagset, who was just in Fort

974
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Speaker 11: Wayne with us a couple of weeks ago, is executing

975
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Speaker 11: the President's plans to take out these drug boats before

976
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Speaker 11: they get here. So I have no sympathy for these

977
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Speaker 11: narco terrorists. I mean a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Chatter on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 11: Today about these videos from September one or September two,

980
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Speaker 11: the drug boat and a couple of the couple of

981
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Speaker 11: terrorists who are hanging from the boat. I say, take

982
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Speaker 11: them out, stop them from stop them from poisoning Americans.

983
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Speaker 11: President Trump gets that the American people support him, and

984
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Speaker 11: Pete Hegset, who I think is doing a great job,

985
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Speaker 11: has done nothing wrong, so I back him one hundred percent.

986
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Speaker 1: I keep on.

987
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: Hearing things like words like war crimes Fromkeen Jefferies, the

988
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, the Leader of the House on the Democratic side,

989
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: like we're not at war with these people, We're just saying,

990
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Speaker 2: you know, we're going to take you out if you

991
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: were trying to import fittanol that's going to kill one

992
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand Americans a year.

993
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Speaker 11: Well, we talked about the war on drugs for how

994
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 11: many forty years? Right, I mean all all of my life,

995
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 11: we have had the war on drugs. And President Trump

996
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 11: is the first president of my lifetime who's taking that

997
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 11: war seriously and taking out these drug votes and telling

998
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Speaker 11: the drug cartels are you are our enemy, and we

999
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Speaker 11: will kill you before you kill Americans. So he had

1000
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Speaker 11: the President has Article two powers to protect the homeland

1001
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Speaker 11: of the United States of Americas. So he's well within

1002
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Speaker 11: his constitutional rights. The authorizations are already there for him

1003
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Speaker 11: to do what he's doing. We've seen for way too long,

1004
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Speaker 11: so many Hoosiers affected by drug overdoses.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 11: Just the last year the Biden administration a couple couple

1007
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Speaker 11: thousand or more drug overdoses in Indiana because of these

1008
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Speaker 11: this poison flooding into our country. President Trump is that

1009
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Speaker 11: is the first one who's finally doing something about it.

1010
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Speaker 11: So I can't. I mean, you're you're picking you guys

1011
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 11: are picking up on something here though. That's that I'm

1012
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 11: sure Governor Browns he gets back to the land of

1013
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 11: common sense in Indiana. Uh, it doesn't miss this at all.

1014
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Speaker 11: But these Democrats are wacky and crazy. I mean they

1015
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Speaker 11: they they're they're siding with the narco terrorists over over

1016
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Speaker 11: the American people. And that's not you know, you're talking

1017
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Speaker 11: about politics. This is a life and death matter. It's

1018
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Speaker 11: not it's not political, but it's talking about the politics

1019
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 11: of it. The Democrats are on the wrong side of

1020
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Speaker 11: this issue, and it's going to come back to haunt

1021
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Speaker 11: them on election.

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Speaker 1: Day and Governor to piggyback off of what Senator Banks

1023
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Speaker 1: is talking about. I bet when you go around the

1024
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Speaker 1: state and you're talk about the drug epidemic that has

1025
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Speaker 1: been running rampant over the last ten plus years in

1026
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Speaker 1: this country. When so many families who have lost a

1027
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Speaker 1: loved one to a fentanyl overdose see the Department of

1028
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Speaker 1: War trying to proactively eliminate people bringing this poison to

1029
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Speaker 1: their country. I feel like they are excited for this.

1030
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Speaker 1: They're finally being heard by the government. Does that make sense?

1031
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Speaker 5: They finally have a voice at the highest place in

1032
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 5: the country that's doing something about it. As Jim said,

1033
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Speaker 5: seventy one percent in Indiana. That's that classic eighty twenty

1034
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Speaker 5: and the other side of the aisle seems to always

1035
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Speaker 5: be picking that twenty percent where this should be something

1036
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Speaker 5: that we don't equivocate at all about. And when you're

1037
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Speaker 5: talking about one hundred thousand lives each year at stake,

1038
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Speaker 5: take the percentage of Hoosiers that are involved in that too.

1039
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Speaker 1: Speaking with some of their Jim Banks here on the

1040
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Speaker 1: hand in Nigel Show, Governor Mike Brawn also in studio

1041
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Speaker 1: with US Senator Let's pivot to the vetting process for

1042
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Speaker 1: some of these refugees, the Afghan vetting process. This is

1043
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Speaker 1: on the heels of the DC shooting. Now, if you

1044
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Speaker 1: go back a couple of years, you'll remember there was

1045
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Speaker 1: a little controversy at Camp Adterbury here in Indy about

1046
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Speaker 1: who was coming in Afghan refugees. I fought with a

1047
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Speaker 1: local TV station about this. I'm curious as to your

1048
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: perspective on what's happening a couple of years removed and

1049
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Speaker 1: what's happening at a national level.

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Speaker 11: Well, this is one of those cases where we predicted this.

1051
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Speaker 11: I served in Afghanistan back in August of twenty twenty one,

1052
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 11: when Biden and General Milly and Lloyd Austin, all these

1053
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 11: jokers in that administration that botched the withdrawal and all

1054
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Speaker 11: of that happened. And then all those planeloads of Afghan

1055
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Speaker 11: nationals they brought to the United States who were largely unvetted.

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Speaker 11: We knew it that want to take one hundred and

1057
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Speaker 11: ninety thousand of them, most of them were largely unvetted.

1058
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Speaker 11: We knew at that point that they were bringing terrorists

1059
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Speaker 11: to the United States of America. And then the last

1060
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Speaker 11: week you've had three incidents, the first one of course

1061
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Speaker 11: being very sad, and the terrorist attack in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 11: And then you've had two more of these Afghan nationals

1063
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Speaker 11: who were brought in under Biden who have been arrested.

1064
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Speaker 11: This is a real problem, and what we know is

1065
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Speaker 11: probably going to be true is that as the President

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Speaker 11: and the administration turned their sites to fully vetting all

1067
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Speaker 11: of those who came here, they're going to find a

1068
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Speaker 11: lot more ties to terrorists. This last one that was

1069
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Speaker 11: arrested had ties to isis K, which is the worst

1070
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Speaker 11: of the worst of terrorism. Let me say this, I

1071
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Speaker 11: brag about this all the time, and I want to

1072
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Speaker 11: thank Governor Braun on this program. Governor Braun was one

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Speaker 11: of the first governors in the country, might have been

1074
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Speaker 11: the very first one.

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Speaker 1: And one of the very first.

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Speaker 11: Things that he did when he went into the governor's

1077
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Speaker 11: office was to sign an executive order that instructed the

1078
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Speaker 11: state police and the State of Indiana to support President

1079
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Speaker 11: Trump and the Trump administration and the mass deportation efforts

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Speaker 11: to get the illegal criminals off of our streets. That's

1081
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Speaker 11: different than the unvetted Afghan nationals, but that shows you

1082
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Speaker 11: that we have a governor and our state who's serious

1083
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Speaker 11: about law and order, that's serious about the illegal immigration crisis,

1084
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Speaker 11: and stands with the Trump administration what they're trying to

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Speaker 11: do on this entire front. Governor, I want to thank

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Speaker 11: you for that type of leadership.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jim.

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Speaker 5: And you know, when I decided not to run for

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Speaker 5: a second term for Senate, I remember the conversation you

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Speaker 5: and I had, and I always felt you were going

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Speaker 5: to fill that spot up.

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Speaker 1: And you've been true blue to that.

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Speaker 5: You've been there back in the president and for me

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Speaker 5: here as a governor where the states are going to

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Speaker 5: have to rally behind America First and common sense stuff,

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Speaker 5: it makes me feel really good that we got someone

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Speaker 5: like you that's carrying the tw out there. Keep doing it.

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Speaker 5: On redistricting, you've been a fan of it, as our

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Speaker 5: seven congressional officeholders have. We're working on that. That's another thing.

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Speaker 5: If we don't get that done, that playing field has

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Speaker 5: been so uneven. You've been a proponent for that. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for your support of that vocally.

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Speaker 1: Sender Jim Banks. Your response to the redistricting conversation happening

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Speaker 1: here in Indiana. The Governor and I and n I's

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Speaker 1: just had a long conversation about what's happening here with

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Speaker 1: the Indiana State House. There's a lot of Republicans, especially

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Speaker 1: in the Indiana Senate, that are a little wishy washy,

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Speaker 1: a little unsure about changing of the congressional maps. As

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Speaker 1: somebody that's representing Indiana and Washington d C. Your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the whole concept, the whole conversation of changing the map.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad Governor bron called the special session. I'm

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Speaker 11: glad that the House, the State House is likely to

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Speaker 11: pass this forward tomorrow on third reading and pass it

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Speaker 11: over the Senate. And I've said all along that the

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Speaker 11: Senate should just vote on it. I think when they

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Speaker 11: vote on it, they're going to You're going to see

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Speaker 11: senators and maybe have been you know that haven't been

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Speaker 11: public about their stances. They're going to vote for it

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Speaker 11: because that's what their voters want them to do. So

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Speaker 11: just vote on it. Just be transparent about it. Don't

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Speaker 11: don't sweep it under the rug.

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Speaker 1: Just have a vote on it.

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Speaker 11: Make it public so all the senators cast their vote

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Speaker 11: and their constituents know where they stand on it. I mean,

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Speaker 11: at the end of the day, we know that the

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Speaker 11: Democrats cheated and manipulated the data from the last census.

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Speaker 11: When Joe Biden came to and took over the White House,

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Speaker 11: they took the census data from the twenty twenty census

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Speaker 11: and they and they use that they misused that data

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Speaker 11: to create more Democrat seats and Democrat states and take

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Speaker 11: seats away from We know that Florida and Texas would

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Speaker 11: have more Republican districts than what they do because of

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Speaker 11: how they manipulated this data. They counted illegals in the

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Speaker 11: census data and used that to how they how they.

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Speaker 1: They drew some of these districts.

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Speaker 11: So then you have states like California, Illinois threatening to

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Speaker 11: do it. Other other Democrat states who are doing this

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Speaker 11: mid cycle redistricting. But I think I think the governor

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Speaker 11: and I agree on this, that that the way the

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Speaker 11: way that they manipulated that data, and how the Democrats

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Speaker 11: have have managed this process.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 11: There there's a good reason for Indiana's nine votes in

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Speaker 11: Congress to mean even more, uh, for to go to

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Speaker 11: do this mid mid cycle redistricting. There's a there's a

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Speaker 11: there's a logic, there's a case. There's a case here

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Speaker 11: to be made, and I'm glad that the State House

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Speaker 11: is moving forward on it.

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Speaker 1: Senator, last thing here before we'll let you go, have

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Speaker 1: you been talking any trash to the Vice president about

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Speaker 1: this i U Ohio State football game coming up this weekend?

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Speaker 1: You better believe it. I believe it. I was thought

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Speaker 1: he can play that.

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Speaker 11: The last time he was in Indianapolis was whenever whenever

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Speaker 11: there was was the Rose Bowl and the mid two

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Speaker 11: thousands when he drove over from Columbus and Ohio State

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Speaker 11: got thumped by somebody I forget who it was. So

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Speaker 11: he doesn't have fond memories of Ohio State playing in

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Speaker 11: Indianapolis and UH and bowl games. So let's let's make

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Speaker 11: it another miserable Yeah, state guys on Saturday. I feel

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Speaker 11: pretty good about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, it's a big weekend here in Central Indy.

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Speaker 1: Senator Jim Banks, we appreciate the time. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 11: Have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with

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Speaker 2: a special guests on the hotline.

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Speaker 1: Representative Andrew Ireland joining US representative. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: patient here, and you were over in the mix today

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Speaker 1: at the Indiana General Assembly. The topic was redistrict ing.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard for me to say that. Did I

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Speaker 1: do it right? Thank you, Press, thank you. Wow. You

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Speaker 1: were kind of texting me back and forth. Tons of amendments,

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Speaker 1: everybody's got in the walk me through the latest. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so good to be back, guys. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: interesting to me. I think we saw more amendments on

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Speaker 7: this today than almost any other bill during the last session.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of a three day process. Usually

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Speaker 7: you go through a committee, then you go to the

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Speaker 7: floor and you've got amendments, and then on the last

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Speaker 7: day you have an up or down vote of whether

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Speaker 7: or not you're going to pass the final version of

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Speaker 7: that bill. So we've gone through the you know, the

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Speaker 7: second piece of that there. Today we went through the amendments.

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Speaker 7: Democrats offered everything out of the sun. All of those

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Speaker 7: were defeated. So tomorrow's the big day. The House will

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Speaker 7: have a chance to vote up or down of whether

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Speaker 7: or not they are going to move forward with redistricting,

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Speaker 7: and then it goes off to the Senate.

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Speaker 1: What are we hearing?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: You know me, I'm a gambling man representative. It feels

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Speaker 1: like the House has always had the votes. Do you

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Speaker 1: kind of got that feeling?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I certainly we have the votes. I

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Speaker 7: feel like for tomorrow. I'm pretty confident. Speaker put out

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Speaker 7: of a statement about a month ago too. As much,

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Speaker 7: I'd be surprised it goes any other way. Obviously, the

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Speaker 7: Senate is a bigger question. I think some Senators it's

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Speaker 7: still not clear where they stand on this one. So

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Speaker 7: we really may not know where it ends up until

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Speaker 7: next week.

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Speaker 2: So what's the timeline? Then you vote tomorrow and then

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Speaker 2: it goes over to the Senate. Then what happens?

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Speaker 7: So the Senatel gavel in on Monday, I think their

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Speaker 7: calendar to be in all of next week, So the

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Speaker 7: hope would be that they would send it to a

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Speaker 7: committee hearing, just like we did take public testimony. Then

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Speaker 7: they'd come back a day or two later and they'd

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Speaker 7: go and do amendments on the floor. Hopefully you know,

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Speaker 7: that kind of continues to move forward, and then if

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Speaker 7: they agree with the bill we gave them, they'll be

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Speaker 7: a single vote by then. If they pass it, it goes

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Speaker 7: to the governor. If they have any amendments, and we

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Speaker 7: have a conference committee and both sides they have to

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Speaker 7: kind of hash it back out and we'll have maybe

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Speaker 7: one more vote on each side to get it done.

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Speaker 7: But I'm cautiously optimistic that I think we're going to

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Speaker 7: get to twenty six votes of the Senate and get

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Speaker 7: this done.

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Speaker 1: Representative Andrew Ireland with us. I love this idea. I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping it can become fruition your plan to impeach rogue

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Speaker 1: judges and prosecutors. Andrew is somebody that lives in Marion County.

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Speaker 1: You're talking romance to me here when you're talking rogue

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Speaker 1: judges and prosecutors. Walk me through this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So, I mean this is really simple. In fact,

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Speaker 7: there are only about two jobs in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 7: If you're in government that cannot be impeached right now,

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Speaker 7: and that is circuit judges and prosecuting attorneys. It's a

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Speaker 7: cork of our Indiana Constitution the way the courts have

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Speaker 7: interpreted it. So all I want to do is say,

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Speaker 7: there's long list of other people that could be impeached.

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Speaker 7: Guess what, guys, you're subject to the same standard that

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Speaker 7: I'm subject to. The governor that you'll just talk to

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Speaker 7: A subject to that. We have to have some accountability

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Speaker 7: for these people, particularly when they're not willing to do

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Speaker 7: their jobs. And I think in part they do it

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Speaker 7: because they know they can get away with them because

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Speaker 7: they know there's no consequences when they don't want to

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Speaker 7: be judges where they don't want to be prosecutors, but

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Speaker 7: instead they want to be advocates for the criminals. So

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Speaker 7: it's really important to have those checks in place. So

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Speaker 7: that's exactly what this does.

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Speaker 1: Is there criteria for this? Because I know the folks

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Speaker 1: on the left are going to say, you can't just

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Speaker 1: impeach somebody because you don't like them, which the irony

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Speaker 1: is thick. I totally get that, But what are the

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Speaker 1: criteria for this?

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Speaker 7: Come of three categories right, and impeach with the high

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 7: bar are going to be clear. You know you can't

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Speaker 7: just go and you know, impeach somebody willy nilly, you

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Speaker 7: gotta have two thirds vote on both the House and

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Speaker 7: the Senate side. As you've seen over the last couple

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Speaker 7: of weeks, Republicans have a really hard time sometimes have

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Speaker 7: eve Ben getting to twenty six votes in the Senate.

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Speaker 7: So this has to be you know, somebody that's really

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Speaker 7: dead to rights. But if somebody commits a crime, if

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Speaker 7: somebody is doing effectively a visive office mau seasons or negligence,

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Speaker 7: which is, you know, a nice legal word for not

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Speaker 7: doing your job, if you're not going and holding the

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Speaker 7: violent criminals accountable. And so if you have one of

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Speaker 7: those things as a prosecutor or a circuit judge, and

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Speaker 7: you're dead to right, so you can get the votes, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think it's time to go, and you know, impeach

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Speaker 7: somebody's then the packing and hopefully that sends a message

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Speaker 7: to these other softs on crime judges and prosecutors that

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Speaker 7: either start doing your job or we're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: Next thirty seconds left here. How optimistic are you that

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Speaker 1: this can get to the finish line.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm feeling pretty good about this one. I

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Speaker 7: mean one, Elon Musk tweeted out his approval of this

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Speaker 7: plan today, so I really appreciate that in one of

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Speaker 7: the world's smartest people. But to U tuck to a

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Speaker 7: lot of the Senators, and I think that's been one

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Speaker 7: of the hold ups. So this general issue is on

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Speaker 7: the Senate side. I've had a lot of support of

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Speaker 7: this language. I think this is the best a proach

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Speaker 7: we've tried so far, So I'm hopeful we're going to

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Speaker 7: get it done this time.

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Speaker 1: Representative Andrew Ireland, Hey man, keep us up to date

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Speaker 1: on all things happening over there and let us know,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll let the masses know. We appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there also

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Speaker 2: joining us live in studio to go off the rails.

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Speaker 2: It's one mister Rob Kendall from The Kendall in Casey Show.

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Speaker 1: Rob, how are you?

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Speaker 12: Oh, I'm great, Thanks as always to our segment sponsor,

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Speaker 12: Garage Doors of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: They're the best. I heard.

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Speaker 2: Your guest earlier this morning on your show is Nikki

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Speaker 2: Kelly from Capitol Chronicle, and you kind of you into

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Speaker 2: the conversation, you kind of pinder down metaphorically speaking, hey,

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Speaker 2: and you said, you know, best guess.

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Speaker 1: Easy, they're Weinstein, is Weinstein? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: Best guess is this going to get through the Is

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Speaker 2: redistricting going to get through committee and get voted on

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Speaker 2: by the Senate?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you asked her today? Understand, we've been

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: asking our media people.

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Speaker 12: We've had all these media people on this week and

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Speaker 12: I've asked every single one of them, The Star and

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Speaker 12: Capitol Chronicle and all these people.

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Speaker 1: Do they think this thing is going to go forward?

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: What's for?

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01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: What has to happen next? What's going to happen next?

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Speaker 2: Here in this process?

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 12: The Household prove it tomorrow, that's a foregone conclusion. Then

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 12: the Senate will meet next week and go through the

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 12: hearing process. Now it is unknown what committee they're going

1314
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 12: to assign it to. That's a Rod Bray deal, right,

1315
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 12: Bray's going to pick the committee assignment. And when he

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 12: picks it, will they even hear it? And if they

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 12: hear it, will they approve it to even get it

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 12: to the Senate for a vote.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is a big deal because in the past,

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: the people Rod Bray has picked for certain committees have

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: been designed to screw you. Go back to property taxes,

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: and he puts people like Scott Baldwin on the committee

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: who've got financial skin in the game for screwing people over.

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Speaker 12: Oh totally'll I think you'll get an idea based on

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 12: where it goes in committee. Now it will depend on Look,

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 12: I'm so torn on this because I just can't like,

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 12: and you know, in your mind, you can't picture things

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 12: like what it's going to be Like. I can't picture

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 12: Bray allowing something to be voted on and approve that

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 12: he's vehemently against, which he clearly is with this. But

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 12: then I also can't picture the governor getting thoroughly embarrassed

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 12: in front of the entire nation. But Brown has been

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 12: such an ass about this and goaded and insulted Bray

1334
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 12: and challenged him. And but ba da dah. Maybe Bray's like,

1335
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 12: just get him what he wants, will embarrass him in

1336
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 12: front of the nation, and Bray can be bought. We

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 12: saw that with Constitutional Carry Allegedly, when the NRA started

1338
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 12: making phone calls up it'd be a shame of all

1339
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 12: of our funding stuff coming to the state of Indiana

1340
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, he believed in Second Amendment.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, the difference here is he does, the constituents aren't

1343
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 12: for it. This is the problem. This is an invention

1344
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 12: of Donald Trump and these people being subservient to him

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 12: and these outside groups like Turning Point USA. Poll after

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 12: poll after poll shows the people of Indiana are against

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,440
Speaker 12: this and those maps are an abomination. Those maps are disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Why are they disgusting?

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 12: Look, the whole premise of representative right is the word

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 12: you're supposed to represent. When you look at how the

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01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 12: founders put the country together. There's a reason there's a

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 12: house in a Senate. The Senate's the upper chamber. It's

1353
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 12: the big pictures. Why they're up every six years. They

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 12: represent the entire state. The House is supposed to be

1355
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 12: people who represent a group of people with like minded interest.

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 12: When you go to Washington, your job really is and

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 12: I mean it's become this, but not to be a

1358
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 12: Republican or Democrat. Your job is to say, my people

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 12: feel this way about this issue. I'm supposed to fight

1360
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 12: for these people who this is going to impact them

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 12: in this manner. There are districts multiple ones that start

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 12: in Indianapolis and stretch across the entire state. The people

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Speaker 12: of Marion County have nothing in common with somebody at

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Speaker 12: the southern tip of Indiana, these largely rural ag districts.

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Speaker 1: And yet I think I do. I'm Marion County. I

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01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: think I probably got a little bit in common with

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Speaker 1: the old books at the River of Ohio. We both

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: like to gamble, we go to casinos, and we don't

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Speaker 1: want to have Andre Carson. We got a lot in common.

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Speaker 12: I guarantee you that a lot of those people in

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Speaker 12: other Indiana don'tive two damns about Andre Carson.

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Speaker 1: That is a Marian know him, and that's the point.

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: But that's the point.

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Speaker 12: Though your job, there will be policies, I promise you,

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 12: there will be numerous policies that will be in direct

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 12: conflict where this person's vote will screw somebody in their

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 12: district because of the way these districts are set up. Look, okay,

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 12: and here's another example of this, because people have been

1379
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 12: on me about this about Shreve. How did Jefferson Shreed

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 12: become a congressman. He spent an entire year screwing the

1381
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 12: people of Marion County, lying and running this horrible mayoral campaign.

1382
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 12: But he was essentially spent fifteen sixteen million dollars whatever

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 12: of name id. He district that he's in now has

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 12: a portion of Marion County and it stretches all the

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 12: way to the Ohio border.

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Speaker 1: What did he do?

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Speaker 12: He ran up the score in Marion County When he

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 12: ran for Congress, he didn't get a majority of the

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Speaker 12: vote or anywhere close to it. He got all those

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01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 12: people in Marion County a vote for him, and now

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,520
Speaker 12: he's a congressman. He is a Marion County Congressman representing

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Speaker 12: the rest of that entire district. That's what almost every

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 12: district is going to be like if these maps passed.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, how much sway

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: how much poll does Rod Bray Senate pro tim have

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Speaker 2: over the people under him?

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Speaker 1: A lot?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's why property taxes went down. That's why

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Speaker 2: I mean he does. He's the big boss, right. I

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: mean you could make a case maybe Houston.

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Speaker 1: Which is why I'm surprised you aren't as anti Rod

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: Bray as I am. Property taxes was your baby, that

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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: was like your cause. Like I'm ticked off because I

1404
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: think he's the reason why in his little elite team

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: of butt sniffers underneath of them that we got screwed. Like,

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: I feel like you should be more angry than anybody

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: at Rodbrooke, like Rod Bray, Well, you're way angrier about

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: Braun and Beckwick. They lied to me.

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 12: Rod Brden lied to me. Don't lie to me. Braun

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 12: looked me right in the eye, lied to me numerous times.

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 12: Micah lied to me numerous times. Those guys, eh, don't.

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01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 12: I can deal with people that I don't agree with.

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 12: I get on by with Jesse Brown. I agree with

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01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 12: him on anything. He looks right in the face, tells

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01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 12: me what he thinks.

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: Dare I say, friend of the show, you've been with us?

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: I get along with all sorts of liberal people. Do

1418
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: you make fun of my friends all the time?

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 12: They don't lie to me the bad guy. Those guys

1421
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 12: lied to me, and they lied to the state. I

1422
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 12: got no tolerance for that. Because you can't trust him,

1423
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 12: you can't deal with them. I know what Rod Bray

1424
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 12: is the same ways I know what the Democrats are. Look,

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 12: I do not believe. Look, Jennifer Ruth Green is a

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01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 12: disgusting person. She failed in that run for Congress. They

1427
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 12: tried to push her up by giving her this cushy

1428
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 12: two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars taxpayer funded job,

1429
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 12: and because she has the ethics of Tony Soprano, she

1430
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 12: couldn't even make it eight months before they had to

1431
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 12: get rid of her. That's who's going to be their

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 12: golden child in that first congressional district.

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: Is that the person that's gonna.

1434
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 12: Save America because that's what they want us to believe.

1435
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 12: I don't believe in rewarding these people. I don't want

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 12: any more Jefferson Shreeves, and I don't want Andre cars

1437
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 12: to be the mayor of Indianapolis, which is what's gonna happen.

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my thing about Andre Carson becoming the mayor

1439
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis. If he just shows up and he's sober,

1440
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: I feel like we've made progress. Like I'm not gonna

1441
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: like policies, but I don't like Joe Hawks. That's policies.

1442
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: Is he going to be there? Is he gonna be coherent?

1443
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: Is he not faced down in a urinal somewhere? Like

1444
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: If that's the case, I feel like we've made progress.

1445
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 12: We have to stop the Republican lies and the bad

1446
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 12: Republican behavior. When my two and a half year old

1447
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 12: misbehavior mismisbehaves, I don't give her more candy. I don't

1448
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 12: give her cookies and go great job, Livy. If she

1449
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 12: draws on the wall, I put her in time out.

1450
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 12: We have had nothing but bad behavior from these Republicans.

1451
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 12: The taxes, the corruption, the conflicts of interest, the utility bills.

1452
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 12: They don't do anything to help us. And we're like, well,

1453
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 12: let's just reward him and give him two more seats.

1454
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: Why would they ever help us? And I agree with you,

1455
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: and you're right about that, but I feel like there's

1456
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: a better chance of primarying a Republican turn out than

1457
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: primarying Andre Carson out because Andre Carson is a made

1458
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: man here in Marion County. He is like the uh

1459
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: capo of a mafia. He is not going anywhere he

1460
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: has set. He could walk out there pantiless and say hey,

1461
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: all of you can bite me, and he would win

1462
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: in a landslide. Because the last name is Carson, Henry

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Carson doesn't matter.

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 12: If the Republicans would just act like Republicans, none of

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01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 12: this would be an issue. It's the Republicans who are

1466
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 12: to blame because they have all the power. We don't

1467
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 12: need Andre car It doesn't matter about Andre Carson.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't pass through the Senate. It's just as

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01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 2: embarrassing for Rod bras it is Governor Braun, Isn't it

1470
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 2: why Bray's been against it from the beginning. If I

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01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 2: beg you not to keep something, but he's letting them.

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Speaker 2: He's bringing it to the table though, So why bring

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: it to the table because he wants embarrass Braun? If

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01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: he wants to do think that's his endgame here. I think,

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: why did he one a Well, I don't know.

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01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: You'd have to ask him. Here's what I know. You

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01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 12: got what twenty knows right, well, probably twenty two. I

1479
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 12: know of a couple of people that are knows that

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 12: haven't announced it, but I'm not gonna out them on

1481
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 12: that because that's their job to do. You got basically

1482
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 12: twenty two people that are against. So that's like ten Democrats,

1483
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 12: twelve Republicans. You've got what is it twenty twenty yes? Confirmed? Yes,

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 12: So you've got eight people that are this is gonna

1485
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 12: come down to They got to get four of them

1486
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 12: to be no. If you were a yes and you

1487
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 12: could get all these lunatics off your ass, wouldn't you've

1488
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 12: made that announcement by now? If you could be a

1489
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 12: hero and a turning point, being able would love you

1490
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 12: and Trump would say nice things about you, and you

1491
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 12: wouldn't get bothered anymore. Wouldn't you come out and say

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01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 12: you know what, I'm for this and just be done

1493
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 12: with it. I think if you haven't announced now, minds

1494
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 12: could be changed. But I if you have an announced,

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01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 12: you're probably a NO.

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01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: I got be wrong. It feels like you are one

1497
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: of the most connected people when it comes to what's

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01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: going on inside the state House. This is the interesting

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: question for me, and I don't know if you've heard

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 1: anything one way or the other. If you have, please

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01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,879
Speaker 1: let us know. It's one of two things here. Somebody

1502
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: told Rod Bray it'd be a shame to follow your

1503
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: funding stopped coming, and he decided to see the light

1504
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: and let's move forward like he did with Constitutional carry.

1505
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: Or he's like, you know what, if Braun and Trump

1506
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: are gonna drag my name through the mud, let's dance.

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01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: Don't threaten me with a good time all call a vote.

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01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: We're not going to have the votes and all the

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: main tweets will start going to him. Yeah.

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 12: No if the people I've talked to, we talked to

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 12: multiple people, and I never got anybody this week to

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 12: say it's a yes. I got multiple people to say

1513
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 12: they think it's a no. I got some people say

1514
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 12: I don't have idea, it's super close. But like these

1515
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 12: people that are coming out in the nose, they are

1516
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 12: subservient to Braun Bray, many of them. They wouldn't be

1517
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 12: doing that if they thought he was really for this

1518
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 12: or was gonna be angry if they did that, because

1519
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 12: those those committee assignments and stuff are two they're too important.

1520
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 12: And I think maybe Braun was such an ass about

1521
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 12: this and Bray. Look, you said whatever you want about Bray.

1522
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 12: He was very polite about all this. He tried his best.

1523
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: He's a very polite weasel. Well I'm not saying he's not.

1524
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's like Bobby the brain heena. He's

1525
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: very well spoken. Still a weasel, but very well spoke.

1526
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 12: If you keep telling somebody that train is going to

1527
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 12: run you over and get off the tracks and the

1528
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 12: guy keeps extending his middle finger back to you, and

1529
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 12: saying you don't know anything about anything, get out there

1530
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 12: and drive that train. Well, okay, I'll ride the train

1531
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 12: and run you over.

1532
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, at least I really thought i'd get more

1533
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: of a response from the Bobby Heenan, a reference out

1534
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: of you like you's own baby right, used to fill

1535
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: in on this radio station that.

1536
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 12: Had been to have Bobby Heenan as a filing as

1537
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 12: doing a show with you.

1538
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: The Hammer and Heena or the Nigel and Heena. Oh great.

1539
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: And something Nige and I have been talking about quite

1540
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: a bit is there's an awful lot of open property

1541
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: here in downtown Indy. Stores are moving out, nobody's moving

1542
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: back in.

1543
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

1544
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: The coupon Lady and I had a little date night

1545
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weekends ago, Friday night downtown went to

1546
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: the comedy club. And this was a warm night. It

1547
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: was like sixty degrees, unseasonably warm on a Friday. There

1548
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: was hardly anybody out downtown. The Country Bar was full,

1549
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the comedy club was full, and that was it.

1550
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: And the studies have been done that we're higher than

1551
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: the national average of empty office space.

1552
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: Over double the national average. So explain to me, Rob,

1553
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: why do people like the Indie Chamber, the Chamber of Commerce,

1554
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: hitch their wagon to people like Joe hawk Set and

1555
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: endorse them when last time I remember hawks Set have

1556
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: businesses out to dry during the riots.

1557
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 12: We had this conversation today on our show because we're

1558
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 12: talking about these people who look I never changed, right.

1559
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 12: I call people out the same principles, same everything. When

1560
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 12: I do it the Democrats, people love me for four years.

1561
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 12: When we're doing it to Biden and now the same

1562
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 12: standard to Trump, people get mad and or screaming at me.

1563
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 12: And somebody I was talking the other day that's connecting

1564
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 12: the State House, said you got to think of it

1565
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 12: like this. Remember when they had Bob Knight literally on

1566
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 12: camera choking a kid and people were still like in

1567
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 12: some sort of denial, like Night got a raw deal. No,

1568
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 12: you can see him wrap his hands around that guy's

1569
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,839
Speaker 12: throat in his head, jerks back violently.

1570
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: He was choking a kid.

1571
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 12: Why did people continue to find by for years all

1572
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 12: the crap, putting the cop in the trash can and

1573
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 12: throwing the plants and the soil toilet paper because they

1574
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 12: were so emotionally connected into it. And if at some point,

1575
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 12: if you've been so emotionally connected into something. You break

1576
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 12: from it, you're not only indicting that person, you're indicting yourself.

1577
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 12: And I think that's part of it, is like these

1578
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 12: people have been in this club for so long and

1579
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 12: it's kind of the leadist, like bigger than the Peasants Club,

1580
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 12: and Joe Hoggs has been sort of the face of

1581
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 12: it that if you break from it, like it's an

1582
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 12: emotional thing, like it's a trigger in your brain that

1583
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 12: they just can't do it no matter how bad it gets.

1584
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: So we got a couple seconds left here. We've got

1585
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: a new podcast that's out right. We've done the College

1586
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: Football podcast on Tuesday, We've done the NFL podcast today.

1587
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Which is your favorite play of the weekend. We're gonna

1588
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: give one away for free right now because this may

1589
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: be the final off the rails in this building. Maybe

1590
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: we think we don't know, So give me your best bet,

1591
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: whether it's college or football this weekend.

1592
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 12: Well, I think you and I are in an agreement.

1593
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 12: That's and a half. The Bears are a six and

1594
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 12: a half point underdog at the Packers. You and I

1595
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 12: are both plundering buying it up to ten because the

1596
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 12: Bear stink the.

1597
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Place of the NFC.

1598
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 12: Rob, Well, I'm in first place at our betting in

1599
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 12: our betting show.

1600
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm the best?

1601
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 11: Better?

1602
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: That's a good point. What's coming up tomorrow?

1603
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Uh?

1604
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 12: The booze industry is in trouble. Small market booze people

1605
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 12: are in trouble, Cloppenstein. Stein's gonna be with us to tellus.

1606
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Can you say that like Bruce Springsteen for me?

1607
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 12: Hey, hey, Bruce, how many local mom and pop bars

1608
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 12: are left?

1609
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: It's not many. It's not many. You guys are in trouble.

1610
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: He's off the rails. That's Rob Kendall. This is the

1611
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Show.