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Speaker 1: Hi, you've reached Will from Will's wills and testaments. I

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Speaker 1: can't fact you call right now because I'm willfully ignoring

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Speaker 2: If you're calling to make a.

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Speaker 1: Will, contest a will, or you're simply willing to talk

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Speaker 2: If you're calling for that other will, the handsome one

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Speaker 2: are ten days away from IndyCar opening with the first

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Speaker 2: practice on the streets of Saint Petersburg, courtesy of our

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Speaker 2: friends at Fox Sports. First, one of the promos, the

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Speaker 2: alex Poalo promo commercial, also aired this weekend on Fox.

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Speaker 2: And then one of the Easter eggs was a phone

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Speaker 2: Willpowers Legal Services. Hello, welcome, thanks for joining us. Trackside

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Speaker 2: ninety three to five, one oh seven five the fan

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, landon Coons is in the studios, Kevin Lee,

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Speaker 2: Kurk Cavin. We've crossed another milestone. We got the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl out of the way. Now we have the Daytona

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Speaker 2: five hundred done. IndyCar is just about upon us. Maybe

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Speaker 2: for NASCAR. When they release the ratings, we'll do a

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Speaker 2: quick touch on that. And that's where the IndyCar promos

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Speaker 2: aired this weekend. And maybe I'll just offer this without

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Speaker 2: first noticed it with who won the Daytona five hundred.

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Speaker 2: It's the guy who sued NASCAR, Michael Jordan. So that

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Speaker 2: worked out quite nicely that they were able to use

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Speaker 2: one of the main assets that they have, they make

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Speaker 2: Sports Center, They get coverage they otherwise wouldn't get with

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan going to Victory Lane with Tyler Reddick and

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Speaker 2: our friend Jamie Little is the official MJ interviewer, so

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Speaker 2: a wedding arbar Mitza for us through Jamie. But who

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Speaker 2: Exfinity for a while, but the O'Reilly Auto Parts Series,

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Speaker 2: the Exfinity Series now it's the number two series. Richard

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Speaker 2: chill Dress Racing. Now he didn't sue NASCAR, But what

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Speaker 2: did the person that was the commissioner of NASCAR call him?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't very nice. It wasn't very nice.

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Speaker 2: He called him a redneck. I think called Richard Childress

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Speaker 2: Richard Childress wins the Exfinity race with Austin Hill who

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Speaker 2: talked about a whole lot in the lawsuit with NASCAR

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Speaker 2: Row Motorsports. The other Bob Jenkins, not the Bob Jenkins

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Speaker 2: Actually I got to go Doug double check that did

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Speaker 1: So it's probably enough on that. Let's move on to

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Speaker 2: We got Indy car cars on track today. In fact,

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Speaker 2: so we'll go through everything at the end of the

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Speaker 1: That's correct. And by the way, the other driver that

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Speaker 1: Correct, And I don't know anything special to add to it.

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Speaker 1: That's correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all you need to know. And it's being

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Speaker 1: and again I think these things are sip cyclical. You

433
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: may have Aeron McLaren, may take some good people away

434
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: from Ganassi, and that's the difference, and all of a

435
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: sudden they are second tier. If you will, I don't

436
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. Ganassi's always been good and they

437
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: will continue to be. But I don't think you can

438
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: just say because Meyer, Shank and Ganassi took four the

439
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: top eight finishing positions in twenty five, that that's going

440
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: to be the case in twenty six, twenty seven, even

441
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: new program in twenty eight. Again, for every Meyer Shank

442
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: Ganassy situation you talk about, you got a Foyt and

443
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Epenske that's been very beneficial for the sport.

444
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: Mostly just kind of talking out loud. I get it.

445
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: I get it. This is not a simple This is

446
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: very complex. And when we first heard about this as

447
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: part of it, it was, hey, whatever it takes, if

448
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: that's what it took to get Chevy and on it

449
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: to stay, I am all for it, and we'll deal

450
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: with the unintended consequences moving forward. But it's just not

451
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: pristine in all hell that works, and I don't know

452
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: that everything is ideal on the Chevy side. Well, that

453
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: might be the simplest thing that happens. I don't know

454
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: that they've really said, you know, we've wondered what can

455
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: be drying rhine Bold. Is this their path to come

456
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: back in or not? I don't know, unless they did

457
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: a partner ship or maybe merge with the current team

458
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: or something along those lines. Otherwise, it seems like it

459
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: might be pretty good opportunity for a third card AJ

460
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Foyight Racing and six Penske cars Yep, yep, yeah, Hey,

461
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: how's that going to go over?

462
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: And I get the bench racing as we talk about

463
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: this in February of twenty six, But let's see how

464
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: it plays out. But you know, I think the technical

465
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: alliances are beneficial for the teams that could use it

466
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: and generally speaking, I don't have a problem with it

467
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: because I think Meyershanks still trying to beat the Ganassy guys.

468
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll have to kind of see how

469
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: it plays out. You do have this in NASCAR to

470
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: some degree. You have some teams working closely with one another.

471
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: You know. There the manufacturers have historically worked really well

472
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: as a cohesive group, and you spoke of that in

473
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred competitively with the Toyotas. So you're

474
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: going to have some of these things. Deals, alliances can

475
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: call them what you want, but you know, friends are

476
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: going to work with friends.

477
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: By the way, we did get I haven't seen a

478
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: press release, but on good enough record, Marshall prud Eraser

479
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: wrote this morning that the Penske Foight partnership will continue.

480
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: We had heard the Foight side saying it over and

481
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: over it will continue, but when Penske management was asked,

482
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: it was stand by TBD on that. So I think

483
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: I like the idea that Larry Foyd just had. Let's

484
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: just keep saying it's going to happen, and they'll have

485
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: to make it happen. And we're going to tell all

486
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: of our sponsors no we're still affiliated with Penske. And

487
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: if we say it enough, what is it? George Costanza said,

488
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: If I say it enough, if I believe it myself,

489
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: it's not a lie. I'm getting the quote wrong with

490
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: something along those If I can convince myself, it's not

491
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: a lie. So it's worked out. It's not the same

492
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: though as it was. They had a Penske engineer the

493
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: last two years in James Schnabel. He staying with Little

494
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: Dave going to Penske. There is not as as far

495
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: as it has not been shared yet, it doesn't sound

496
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: likely that there is a Penske engineer working for Foights,

497
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: so they will share some information. Is it going to

498
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: be at the same level when they're soon to be

499
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: announced driver was with the team? We will see same

500
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: thing with the Coin Andretti relationship. That's not been really

501
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: made clear what that is. There are no Andretti engineers

502
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: with Coin. They're not even necessarily sharing information. It might

503
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: just be simply that Andretti and TWG is paying for

504
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Dennis Hager. You know, they may be funding that car

505
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: so that he can run as an Andretti driver, and

506
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: he is there in waiting, so he is the new

507
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: David Malucas right, that's right that Marcus Erickson is unfortunately

508
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: going to have to answer to this year. If Dennis

509
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: Hager is doing well and Marcus in the last year

510
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: of his contract is not, He's going to have to

511
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: be faced with those conversations, Hey, is Dennis Hager going

512
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: replace you? And the other one that is there in

513
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: the depth department for Andretti is it doesn't work out

514
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: in Europe in Formula one Formula two for Colton Hurda,

515
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: is there an invitation for him to come back and

516
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: join the organization at some point. So that's why the

517
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: start of this season is so important for a lot

518
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: of people, including you know, Nolan Siegel and Marcus Erickson

519
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: kind of stand out a lot as where there clearly

520
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: are options for Marcus. It's already been stated that they

521
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: you know, that job is open that Nolan has. Now

522
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: I'll say this about the Andretti seat. My opinion I've

523
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: not asked anyone in this, but my opinion is that

524
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: Andretti will be very content to keep Dennis Hauger at

525
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: dale Coin Racing for multiple years. If Marcus Erickson has

526
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: a good year, I think Marcus Erickson will stay in

527
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: that seat. And I'm not even saying he has to

528
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: finish in the top ten if I'm that team, As

529
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: long as Marcus is solid at Indy this year, that

530
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: is so much of your season from a commercial standpoint,

531
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: from a publicity standpoint, from what really matters the most.

532
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: And Marcus Ericsson, even if he does on the road

533
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: courses finish eighteenth, is a good teammate.

534
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: He's a great teammate. He's a great teammate.

535
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: So I would argue, if Marcus is a factor at

536
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: the Indy five hundred, I've got room for him. I

537
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: don't care what he does. And if he steps it

538
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: up a little bit and has a podium or two

539
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: and you know, finishes tenth, eleventh in points, I'm finding

540
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: a place for Marcus Erkson on my Andretti team.

541
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: And he's certainly capable of that. On the road courses

542
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: and streets are he's very capable. And you know, you

543
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: can look at these what ifs and so forth, but

544
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: he's he's only a whisker from being a three time

545
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Indy five hundred winner. I mean, it's it's that close, all.

546
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Right, coming up in the all we got more to

547
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: get to as we look in to the start of

548
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: the season, including we know who the twenty five drivers

549
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: are going to be, so we'll do that and more.

550
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: And look in the Twitter inbox too, coming up track

551
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: side ninety three to five, one oh seven five the.

552
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Speaker 1: Fan, Hi, this is what power and you're listening to trackside.

553
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Thank you for staying with us. One other addendum to

554
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: the Honda Chevy talk I don't think I mentioned, but

555
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: also from why this matters for those manufacturers, you know,

556
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: not only do they have something they could sell, they

557
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: can essentially get cash back. So if they got a

558
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 2: charter and that charter makes the top twenty two, they

559
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: get a check for the way things stand right now,

560
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: one point six million dollars that will cover those shortages

561
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: that they have in fielding engines for teams, or at least

562
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: some of them.

563
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Some of them, some of them. Yeah, I hadn't thought

564
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: about the cash flow coming back, but you're right, that's yeah.

565
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: They don't have to wait to get out of the

566
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: sport to make some money. They can get some of

567
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: that back. I forget what it is. I think the

568
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: estimates have been. You know, it's definitely in the ten

569
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: million plus is what it costs per year. Maybe not

570
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: over fifty, you know, somewhere in that range when you

571
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: talk about development, and there's some marketing add ins to

572
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: that and so forth. But it's not like it's a

573
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: quarter of a billion dollars or anything like that. It's

574
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: still a lot of money, still a lot of money

575
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: to do what they do. Honda Driver confirm the Phoenix

576
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: has risen. Ro Mau Grojean is back. Rumors that started

577
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: last fall have come to a conclusion, and Grojean will

578
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: be in the one of the two dale Coin cars.

579
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: He's in the eighteen, right, He's in the eighteen, and

580
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: Dennis Auger is going to be in the nineteen.

581
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad you clarified that because I think I was

582
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: going to write that Alger was going to be in

583
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: the eighteen. So that's good that you reminded me. I

584
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: didn't look at the entry list going into Phoenix to

585
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: see which cars are which, But that's good. So yeah.

586
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Remember this is the second time he's driven for Dale Coyn.

587
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: He was with them in twenty one when he came

588
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: over from Formula One. Had a good season that year,

589
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: in fact, better than good, honestly, had a chance several

590
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: races to be in contention, and I think this will

591
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: be good. That we've talked about their upgrades, well, their changes,

592
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: I guess they are upgrades, but they've had good people

593
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: many times at dale Coin's engineering staff, and I think

594
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: they'll be prepared. You know, I think you'll see some

595
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: flashes from them. You know, it feels like to me,

596
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a side going into the season.

597
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: It feels like the teams outside of the Big four

598
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: have made some really solid improvements. We've talked about Reyhall

599
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: making its upgrades throughout the management team. You've got who

600
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: Ghost Hollinger adding Rena's VK. You've got dale Coin's team

601
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: with a really strong rookie driver and and Roman Grojean,

602
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: and there there are other examples to the field. So

603
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: it feels like to me that that the second group

604
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: is stronger than it was a year ago.

605
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Yeah, they'd like to call

606
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: it in the form the one world the midfield, but

607
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: a lot of teams have done things. Ed Carpenter Racing

608
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: has made some ecr By the way, you can't call

609
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: him Ed Carpenter, and we can't call him at Carpenter

610
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Race It's not Ed Carpenter Racing anymore.

611
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: It's e c R.

612
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: It's official ECR.

613
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Yes, they rolled that out in the fall and I

614
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: made the mistake in a story. Look at their emblem.

615
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: They're ECR. They have faced out. It can't be Ed

616
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Carpenter's team with with you know Ted Ted Glov and you.

617
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Can well I know, but Ed still he's still there.

618
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: It's e CR.

619
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Now, huh. And how does that stand for Ted Gelov

620
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: or splendor or.

621
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're supposed to call it.

622
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: What's ECR stand for?

623
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: It stands for ECR. It doesn't stand or anything anymore.

624
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: It's ECR. I'm just telling you, extra boy, I'm just

625
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: telling you.

626
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, they haven't told the TV people yet, so

627
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna hear a lot of Ed Carpenter Racing until

628
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: we get that memo and maybe we will by next week. Okay,

629
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: they haven't. They haven't informed us of that, by the way. Uh,

630
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: grojan Yeah, here's the release. He is in the eighteen only.

631
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Bulls and Bitcoin Max are the primary partners for the program,

632
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: and as part of the announcement, Grojean is an ambassador

633
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: for Bitcoin Max. He it's somewhere deep in my notes.

634
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've.

635
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: Ever used this at some point, but one of the

636
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: things he was doing when he was a young driver,

637
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: he was basically a financial advisor back in the day

638
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: in Europe and really is pretty sharp with the He's

639
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: very smart. He's worked with banks and things like that.

640
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: So this is a nice fit for him. It's not

641
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: just yeah, you're putting the logo in the car and

642
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to shake some people's hands. I don't know

643
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: that he's necessarily advising people and what to do with

644
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: their money and their bitcoined, but it is a nice

645
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: fit with him in that regard, and the sport is

646
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: better having Grojon in it. I'm happy that happens. It's

647
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: not say I didn't want somebody else, because there are

648
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: plenty of other people who don't have a seat that

649
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: I would like to have see a seat. But I'm

650
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: happy that Grojan is going to have an opportunity as well.

651
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: We had a nice chat with him a couple of

652
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: weeks ago, looking forward to seeing what he can do

653
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: this year as well. Speaking of bro anything else, let's

654
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: see Prema won't be there. We know that not ruled

655
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: out it's still as far as I know. If they

656
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: can find some funding, then they will see if they

657
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: can get something together and do some races at a

658
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: later time, and that will be something we will talk

659
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: about in later weeks because everyone's going to need to

660
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: know their plans, even on a part term schedule for

661
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: the ND five hundred, because if not, Chevy is going

662
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: to field at least one extra entry, So I think

663
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: we're at thirty four. If Prema has two, which I

664
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: think is possible, I could see that happening. If they're

665
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: going to field a team, they might say, yeah, we've

666
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: got the guy who won the poll last year in

667
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Robert Schwartzman, and we've got Calumilot. We're going to do two.

668
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: But I have no idea if that's possible or not.

669
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: If it's one that might be it for us other

670
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: than waiting for the second Dry and Rhine Bowl announcement.

671
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: We don't have that announcement at this point. Is there

672
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: any chance Dryer and Rhine Bowl. I think they've probably

673
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: decided that, Okay, Connor Daly has some budget, but I

674
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: don't know that it's a great idea for us to

675
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: try to compete in a half a dozen races with

676
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: that budget. It's not a good use of Connor's partner's budget,

677
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: and it's probably not going to go great for us.

678
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: Do they look in partnering with another team in sort

679
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: of a combined efforts to take the resources they have

680
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: and someone could expand just one of the things that

681
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't know waiting to hear about. And then if

682
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: Prema is not there at all, a Chevy team at

683
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: least one is going to feel an extra car. Is

684
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: it foyight? Is it who goes Hollinger? And then it

685
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: would take two to get us to thirty four. My

686
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: fear is if Prema does not show, then we may

687
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: have thirty three. But I don't know that. I've not

688
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: asked anyone from IndyCar Fox if we have plans for

689
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: a last row shootout, But I do have kind of

690
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: that fear that they're just going to say it's not

691
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: not what we wanted, but this is what it is.

692
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: I have the same gut feeling. I just call it

693
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: a gut feeling at this point because it's February seventeenth,

694
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: not you know, April seventeenth.

695
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: So.

696
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Well love to see you know, they're not only Prema,

697
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: not going to be at Saint Pete. It seems you know,

698
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: they're not at the open test at Phoenix, so you

699
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: could count that as another race that you don't expect

700
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: them to be at.

701
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: So i'll go beyond don't expect not yet Phoenix. Yeah,

702
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: I know they're not going to be there. We're looking

703
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: at April. Best case scenario.

704
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like Long Beach might be the first,

705
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: first opportunity, but yeah, really really tough to say.

706
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Let's see.

707
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

708
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Also, there was an announcement today from Fox. I was

709
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: glad to see I was hired. Rehired, so I'm back

710
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: for this year. But one of the things that I

711
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: had heard that I didn't know if we should share

712
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: or not. But now it's been put out in a release.

713
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 2: We have more driver's eye cameras this year. Every single

714
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: race is going to let me look this up and

715
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: see if it has a number. I've heard six. I've

716
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: heard six drivers eye cameras, so those are pretty cool.

717
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: I think we have fifteen on boards for Saint Pete

718
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: at some point, you know, I think we all hope

719
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: that everybody has an onboard that when something happens that way,

720
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: there's very little chance going back to replay, you won't

721
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: find it. But we're making progress. We're not quite yet

722
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: there yet, but that's going to be a lot of fun.

723
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: And it's not just coming up with fifteen cameras. It's

724
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: the technology to make it all happen and you know,

725
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: paying for them, but it's probably paying for it.

726
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not only paying for the extra cameras to

727
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: be made. And there is there is a cost rf

728
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: like my headsets. I'm not going to say what I've

729
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: heard the number is, but I think it costs more

730
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: for my headset pack to work for a weekend than

731
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: what I make. That stuff is just expensive for the

732
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: technology and the people. It takes more a lot more

733
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: people to do that than it takes for me to

734
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: do my job, if that makes any sense. That's why

735
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: it costs more because there's a lot of people that

736
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: have to to test those things out and make sure

737
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: that it works, so it's not just simply it's not

738
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: like using your cell phone. At this point. Ryan Robinson

739
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: asked this question three time defending champion Alex Polow's biggest

740
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: competition is.

741
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: Boredom. I mean, the guy won by one hundred and

742
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: ninety six points won eight races, finished in the top

743
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: three thirteen of seventeen races last year. Now he's not

744
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: going to win five of the first six like he

745
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: did last year. He just might win them all. But

746
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, his biggest competition, I don't know. I've gone

747
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: back and forth on that.

748
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: You know.

749
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: I like Christian Lingard to be more competitive even than

750
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: he was last year. But it's not just the eight wins.

751
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: It's the fact that he was top three thirteen of

752
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: seventeen races last year. Nobody else has shown the ability

753
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: to even do half of that. So he's either going

754
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: to have to fall off the cliff or he's gonna

755
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: win the championship by fifty points instead of one hundred

756
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: and ninety eight.

757
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm picking Poloa to win, and I'm picking Polo to

758
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: win by a significant margin. But that doesn't mean that

759
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: it's not going That doesn't mean it's going to happen.

760
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: This is sports, This is why we love sports, and

761
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: I think that is going to be the thing that

762
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 2: we're watching for this year. It's any time he doesn't win,

763
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: this is going to be a big deal. And if

764
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: it's the same person enough, it can be tight. So

765
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: who's his biggest target depends on what the teams get going.

766
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's Kyle Kirkwood or Scott McLaughlin. I

767
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: can see one of those two giving him a fight

768
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: for the title, and the third would be Joseph Duguard.

769
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Joseph Douguard.

770
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to expect. I think Joeph

771
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: needs to get off to a good start to stay

772
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: in his happy place. If it starts poorly, then I

773
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: fear it's going to be here we go again, and

774
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: then he's going to start looking at all, right, what

775
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: do we do now?

776
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: So the the only driver I think how many Dixon

777
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: won in his you know, his best year. You got

778
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: to have somebody who's capable of winning five races, and

779
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: that's Joseph Newgarten. To me, Kyle Kirkwood maybe could win

780
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: win three or four, Kenny win five, Kenny win five.

781
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it'll take winning five to beat Polo. But again,

782
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: you've got to be there every week to beat Polo,

783
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: or he's got to get collected in things. And I

784
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: think that's the more likely path for somebody to beat him,

785
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: is for him to be you know, just dumb luck

786
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: taken out. But I still think he wins by thirty

787
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: or forty or fifty points.

788
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I feel you have to win five.

789
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: Polo won a championship winning two two years ago in

790
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Power win a championship the last non polo championship by

791
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: winning two. Yeah, I think you can win two or

792
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: three and just rack up top sevens all year.

793
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: He finished an average finish last year of four point one.

794
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: Well, if he does what he did last year, you know,

795
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: it's over by the fourth of July.

796
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

797
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: If not the five hundred, because it was over by

798
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: the night five hundred this year, it was over. But

799
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: you got to rack up more than top seven finishes,

800
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: is my point. You got to be consistently in that

801
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: top five and you've got to win. You got to

802
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: win at least three, and it might take five. I mean,

803
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: it's just because he's going to win. He's probably gonna

804
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: win three. Probably, But that's why we will watch people.

805
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: I know it'd be great story that will be and

806
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: I think it does.

807
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: It's fun to watch greatness, absolutely. I just I just

808
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna fall off the cliff unless he's collected.

809
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Unless he's collected, yeah, you.

810
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: Know, and some say he's due for bad luck. I

811
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: think he has had a little bit. But if he

812
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: does have horrible luck and blows three engines and gets

813
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: collected in three crashes, you know that's how things can change.

814
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: We'll finish with this in this segment, Lynn underscore IndyCar

815
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: brings up something we wanted to mention with the sad

816
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: news about George Barber passing away. Do you know what

817
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: the long term plan of that amazing track he is

818
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: so mostly just wanted to make a mention that I

819
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: don't know how much you interacted with him. I did

820
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot an amazing gentleman who you would

821
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: never have known. This guy's probably a borderline billionaire and

822
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: did so much good with his money and as race fans,

823
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: created something that we will treasure forever. I don't really

824
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: want to get into what the family's plans are because

825
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'd be very surprised if

826
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: anything is changing. But he passed away today at eighty.

827
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: Four and yeah maybe eighty four degrees, not eighty four

828
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: degrees eighty four.

829
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: Eight four years old.

830
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Dairy farmer, right, but milk. Yeah, here's the thing. We

831
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: all we all scoffed at Barbara Motorsports Park the first

832
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: time we got to look at it. It's a motorcycle track.

833
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: You can't pass. It's just going to be, you know,

834
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: something they added to the schedule. And I'm telling you,

835
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: for however many years we've been racing at Barber, it

836
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: has been one of the joys of the season. It's

837
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: a beautiful place, it races well, the hospitality is outstanding,

838
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: his staff is terrific. And You're right, there's not a

839
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: nicer man. There hasn't been a nicer man in the

840
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: paddock than George Barber. He's just a race fan who

841
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: just he's a gentleman. He has been a gentleman and

842
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it getting to know him. And he's just

843
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: he's just a Southern gentleman. And I couldn't have couldn't

844
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: have imagined such a great presence for the IndyCar paddock.

845
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: He didn't ask for anything, he didn't and he didn't

846
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: scoff at the at the at the scoffs that we

847
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: were presenting. He just said, come race, we'll treat you right.

848
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: And it's been a great event. And I hope we

849
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: race at Barbara for years to come.

850
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: What a legacy. We'll see what we miss coming up

851
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: next on trackside. This is Alex below and you're listening

852
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: to truck side all right, final segment and what we

853
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: missed We missed sharing the times from day one of

854
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Test which concluded oh about fifty to fifty

855
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: five minutes or so ago, and little Dave likes the

856
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 2: number twelve Verizon car not a big shocker. Team Penske

857
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: always good on short ovals, and David Malucas has also

858
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: been in his young career very good on short ovals.

859
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: He was fastest on the day by a decent margin

860
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two points six oh five miles

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Speaker 2: per hour. Then Joseph Neugarten one seventy two zero two one,

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Speaker 2: so six tenths three tenths of a mile an hour

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Speaker 2: back to will power, the former driver of the twelve

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Speaker 2: at one seventy one seven. Then Kyle Kirkwood, Alex Palou fifth,

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Speaker 2: and Marcus Armstrong, Felix Rosenquis, Scott McLaughlin, Scott Dixon, Alexander Rossi.

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Speaker 2: Outside the top ten looking backwards from the bottom, Kyle Collette,

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Speaker 2: rookie was the slowest I don't have in this how

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Speaker 2: many laps that he did. I do know that he

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Speaker 2: was the only incident of the day light damage with

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Speaker 2: the rear wing, and that was again fairly late in

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Speaker 2: the day. All Right, that's it for us. It'll be

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Speaker 2: race week next week. We'll talk to you Monday night

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Speaker 2: next week, Monday night at seven here on track side