1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: The Smalley scandal is bigger than we know, bigger than 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: we understand. That it doesn't matter how much people scream 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: and yell about it. We are going to be people 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: who should be discussing it, who are discussing it and 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: should be investigating it. There's a problem here, and the 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: problem might be whether or not our immigration policies, our 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: immigration thoughts, are based on who is going to be 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: a part of American society. It is imperative in my 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: view that we do not take any group of people 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: and label them as persona. No, I don't feel that way 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: about Somali's. I do feel that way about Islamists. And 14 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: if we are going to say that somehow it is 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: wrong to look at those coming from Islamic countries differently, 16 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: well no, no, no, no, it's it's the only rational 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: course of course. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: be with you find everything going on over at Tony 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Katz dot com. 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate if you'd head on over. 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: There, subscribe and be a part of it. Let's start 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: with the basics. What is this entire scandal. 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: That is bigger than we know and worse than we think. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: This has to do with theft, just stealing by a 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: group of people, either part of that Somali community in Minneapolis, Somali. 26 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: Themselves or others. 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Who saw the COVID money coming in and said hey, 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I got an idea. What they did was was they 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: made the claim that they were feeding children. There was 30 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: a group called Feeding our Future. There were a couple 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: other groups. We're gonna feed children? How many children are 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: you feeding? And will send you money to help you 33 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: do that, because you know COVID has affected everybody. Well, 34 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: lockdowns affected everybody in certainly Minnesota, a progressive state. Are 35 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: not so progressive when we talk about how you grow 36 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: a state, but progressive in their politics. They were engaged 37 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: in real shutdowns. How many people are you feeding? Feeding 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: our future? Oh, eighteen thousand? While you're feeding eighteen thousand 39 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: children a month? 40 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: That's something? No, no, no, a day a day. We met today. 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: You're feeding eighteen thousand children every day. 42 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: Yes, we are money. Please. It's like Jenny Slate, what 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: show is that from? I forget? It's not Parks of 44 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: our creation? Is it? I forgot? 45 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: What money, please, it's so great, and Minnesota said, here 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: you go. And when Minnesota started getting an inkling, a whiff, 47 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hint, a little something, a 48 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: little Joe Biden kind of ah, smells like people. When 49 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: that happened, the good people there who were involved in 50 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: this theft not a grift theft, said, listen, very carefully, 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: you approve these groups for this funding or we're going 52 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: to call you racists. And the government folk in Minnesota 53 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: so afraid of being called racist, they went along with it. 54 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: You understand that this means that Governor Tim Walls went 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: along with it. You mean you have to understand that 56 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: that there are people associated with this, like the Attorney 57 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: General of Minnesota, Keith Eusan, like the Congresswoman Ilano Mar, 58 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: who were in so way connected. 59 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: They certainly knew the groups. 60 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: They were there taking photos at least Stillana Mar was, 61 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: so when the investigation takes place, all of those players 62 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: need to be investigated. Stephen Miller called this the possibly 63 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: the largest fraud against Americans in history, which led to 64 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar saying that you know, well that that's that's nice, 65 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: but you know, Stephen Miller, he's just a he's just 66 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: a white nationalist. 67 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 3: The architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller said 68 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Day, he posted, no magic transformation occurs when 69 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: failed state's cross borders at scale, migrants and their descendants 70 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: recreate the conditions and terrors of their broken homelands. What 71 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: do you make of this argument of failure to assimilate 72 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: and sort of ruining America? How do you understand this? 73 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: When I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, 74 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: it reminds me. Yes, it reminds me of the way 75 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: the Nazis described Jewish people. 76 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: At that moment, Margaret Brennan of CBS News, who hosts 77 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Faced the Nation, should have ended the interview, said thank you, goodbye. 78 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to get to call Stephen Miller a 79 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: white supremacist based on what based on what a recognition 80 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: that you're a bigot, Ilhanomore, you are Jews controlled Congress. 81 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: It's all about the Benjamins. 82 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: That was you, right, that was you who did those things? 83 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: Now do people come to the United States and recreate. 84 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: The horrors they came from? 85 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: So I want to say for the record that I 86 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: don't actually believe that part true. Here is one thing 87 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: that I do believe if we look at it honestly, 88 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: if there is not a buy in to how we 89 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: do things, well, what does one expect You're going to 90 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: go with what you know? That that's a very rational 91 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: point of view, which of course brings us to what 92 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: it is that we expect when people are a part 93 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: of the nation. 94 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: I had shared. 95 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: A part of this last week, and I created a 96 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: short out of a of you follow us on YouTube, 97 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz. It's gone, It's done, 98 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: all sorts of views about the idea of assimilation. 99 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: And you would have. 100 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Thought that I had engaged in the most barbaric talk 101 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the world had ever seen, which. 102 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: Is not the case. 103 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: That all, I was discussing the idea of hyphenization, and 104 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I was discussing the idea of assimilation. 105 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: This is what I said last week. 106 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: If we are to agree that that is true, that 107 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: the American left has no belief in assimilation, and we 108 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: can see this in a myriad of ways. 109 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: For example, the hyphenization of America. 110 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: What the bloody heck is African American, Mexican, American, Colombian, American, 111 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Irish American. 112 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: There's American, and that's it. 113 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: The hyphen is an absolute prob because it creates separation 114 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: as opposed to assimilation. I believe that that is an 115 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: accurate statement. The hyphen creates separation, not assimilation. And I 116 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: had put this out a in a post where I said, you, 117 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I can't have assimilation to American culture if everyone wants 118 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to talk about only where they are from, to which 119 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: I had some people who I think aren't thinking clearly, well, 120 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: what's American culture? And then someone said, well, Tony doesn't 121 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: want Saint Patrick's Day? 122 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Who doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day? 123 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: And minly, I don't want green beer, but I love corn, 124 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: beef and cabbage. 125 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: These things are delightful. 126 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: I want bars to be packed, to be having a 127 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: very good time. 128 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: What kind of fool would say such a thing Tony 129 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day. 130 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I never said anything like that. I did say that 131 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: hyphens are an issue because they are I added Irish American, 132 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: but I could add Jewish American, I can add Mexican American. 133 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: All these things keep us from being American. American involves 134 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: where you came from and a recognition that where you are. 135 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: This idea, this ideal is better. This place that we 136 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: have created is indeed better. I think that's when we 137 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: talk about assimilation. It isn't about forgetting where you came from. 138 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: It's a recognition of where you're at and how fortunate 139 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: you are to be there. Let's at least be clear 140 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: it's better here. If it was really better there, you 141 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: would have stayed there. So when we see people coming 142 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: to the United States who don't think that this is better, 143 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: they think this is bad. They think this place owes them, 144 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: and they are proactive in wanting its destruction. I think 145 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: those are people telling us that they don't want to 146 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: be Americans and. 147 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: We should oblige them. 148 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying that they don't pass the test. You're like, oh, woh, wah, 149 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: wah wah, what tests to be an American? What do 150 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: you mean what test to be an American? Do you 151 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: believe in the destruction of the United it States? How 152 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: would it be possible for us to take in anybody who. 153 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: Believes in the destruction of the United States. 154 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: What is clear is that I'm not interested in labeling 155 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: a whole group as you're all terrible when there are 156 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: people who are part of this world in Minneapols who 157 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: haven't done anything wrong, and so I do have an objection. 158 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: Now President Trump has gone about discussing things. What I 159 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: have noticed. 160 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: Is that when we see a specific level of issue 161 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: with not being interested in being part of the American society, 162 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: the American fabric, that while we've seen it in groups 163 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: from from South America and Central America because of their 164 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: progressive bona fides and their hatred of the United States, 165 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: their hatred of Western culture, of their Western civilization, their 166 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: their hatred that that permeates. We see this from his 167 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: life on societies. The Islamist is not compatible with Western civilization. 168 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: They're just not. 169 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: They're not compatible with anything in Europe. They're not compatible 170 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: with other Muslims. 171 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: They're not. 172 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: We need to be honest about this and clear about this, 173 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and maybe there should be some reticence regarding those nations 174 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: that are Islamic nations. Well, Tony, you see, now you're 175 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: painting everybody with a broad brush because of their culture, 176 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: their religion. No, and that's where the first part of 177 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: this conversation is going to take place. When we talk 178 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: about Islamists, we're not talking about a religion. We're talking 179 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: about a political system and it is incompatible with ours. 180 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: And we have every right to say the answer is no. 181 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: And I only have to look back to the Barbary 182 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: pirates in order to be able to, I believe. 183 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: Make my case that is about who we take into 184 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: the nation. 185 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Maybe there is a moment proven that our kindness cannot 186 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: be extended. 187 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to say, and I won't lie. 188 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: I feel weird saying it because what's the difference between 189 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: that and someone says, well, really, the people we can't 190 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: allow to the country are Jews. 191 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: I mean, what is the line there? What is the 192 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: separation point in that? I got asked today. 193 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I did a radio interview with someone and they were 194 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: discussing how they what they hear from young people zoomers. 195 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, did we just use the 196 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: term zoomer gen Z? What we hear. 197 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: From gen Z is is number one, fix the economy 198 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and number two stop talking about Israel. 199 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: What do you think, Tony? 200 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I was like, well, first yeah, things need to be cheaper, 201 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and secondly, I'm a Zionist in Israel all I want, 202 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: and I'll debate it with anybody. I don't actually care, 203 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: but if somebody is more interested in how what it's 204 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: going to cost them for a gallon of gas as 205 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: opposed to his rally foreign policy. 206 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: I get that. I get that. That makes perfect sense 207 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: to me. 208 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I have to stop talking about what's happening from Islamists 209 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: against a society that allows people, allows people to live freely. 210 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: Hell no, no, not at all, not in any way, 211 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: shape or form. I think that we have to accept 212 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: the fact that the conversation we're having is super heavy. 213 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: That the people involved in the criminal activity in Minneapolis, Man, 214 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: they have to go to jail, and if they're not 215 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: from the United States, if they're not American citizens, they 216 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: have to be deported and their family get deported. 217 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: So be it. That's the crime. 218 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: You are welcomed into the United States with open arms, 219 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and you said, how badly can we blank these people? 220 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: How can we steal from them? How can we take 221 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: advantage of their generosity? And when they notice, we will 222 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: call them racists so they don't do anything about it. 223 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Then we have to investigate all of those elected officials 224 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: who went along with the grift, the theft. Did they 225 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: profit off of it, did they profit monetarily off of it, 226 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: or do they see a value in bankrupting the system. 227 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Do they see a value in bankrupting the system because 228 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: they want the system to fail? I mean, we're getting 229 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: into like Glenn Beck Cleward Piven kind of conversations here, 230 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: But it's true. I ask point blank of Ilhan o Mar, 231 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: are you disgusted by what you saw? And do you 232 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: believe in investigations? No mention of no mention of Stephen Miller. 233 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Do you believe that people who are in the country 234 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: on a level of permanence but not necessarily citizens yet. 235 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: Should they be the ported? 236 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: If the answer is anything but absolutely, well, then what 237 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: are we discussing here? Not every Somali did something wrong, guys, 238 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: it's just not true. It's just not factual. But larger 239 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: scale questions have to be asked. We should be a 240 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: nation that welcomes people who want to live a better 241 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: life and be a part of it, and by the way, 242 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: bring the cool stuff with you. 243 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: Love it. 244 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: But when the nation is primarily Islamic, maybe we have. 245 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: To ask a different question. 246 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Because the data, whether it's in our own country or 247 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: whether it's in Europe, is in. 248 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: And that's rough. 249 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: But if we don't have this rough talk, this rough conversation, 250 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: how Are we going to come to a determination and 251 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: do it without losing our souls as Americans? 252 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Let's start here. 253 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: The investigations have to happen, and anybody involved can't win reelection. 254 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Anybody involved has to go to jail. With the fleecing 255 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: of Americans to the tune of us. Fox News reported 256 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: it possibly eight billion dollars. If we have objection to that, 257 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: can you imagine the objection they're going to give to 258 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: everything else. 259 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz,