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Speaker 3: We are racing, and immediately New Garden attempted to go

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Speaker 3: with six to go. And what a day and what

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Speaker 3: a drive. Celebrating sixty years at the forefront of international

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. Kevin Leek or Cavin landon Coons is in

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Speaker 2: expanded pre race coverage. Green comes up sometime after one

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Speaker 1: staying on the same strategy as Rasmussen. Now, as it

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Speaker 1: turned out, he didn't get around Rasmussen, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think that was a championship play. I want to

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Speaker 1: finish second or third, you know, and let's not give

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Speaker 1: up five positions.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, yep, yeah, I think that makes more sense

437
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Speaker 2: for them. They maybe didn't have a winning car. They

438
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Speaker 2: had a good car, and I may have pulled it off,

439
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Speaker 2: but yeah, I think a lot of us feel I

440
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Speaker 2: know I said this going in. If you have to

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Speaker 2: pick someone that has the best chance to beat Polo.

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Speaker 2: My pick was Kirkwood, and I'm gonna guess he feels

443
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Speaker 2: that way as well. Now we know, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: clear that Penske is pretty back. And I think I

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Speaker 2: also mentioned this how big this race was, because if

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Speaker 2: Polo wins again, you know, we can kind of forget

447
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Speaker 2: about it. But if he doesn't and just has an

448
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Speaker 2: average day and New Garden wins, all of a sudden,

449
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Speaker 2: New Garden is the championship leader. Well we went a

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Speaker 2: step beyond that that Polo is involved in a crash

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Speaker 2: and not only is New Garden the leader, Polo falls

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Speaker 2: back to fifth in the points, and you know he's

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Speaker 2: probably gonna win this weekend. I think the stats I

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Speaker 2: think I saw this. Russ Thompson sent me this that

455
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Speaker 2: of recent new events, he's won the last two. As

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Speaker 2: I recall, it's the guy. Yeah, he won the debut

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Speaker 2: at the Thermal Club. He won the first race of

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Speaker 2: the new Detroit Street Circuit in twenty three. Other recent

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Speaker 2: new event winners that are not OVAL's Ericson won the

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Speaker 2: Nashville Street Circuit cluster that we saw with forty seven

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Speaker 2: cautions in twenty twenty one, Colton won at Cota in

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Speaker 2: nineteen at whatever eighteen years old. Hinch one at Nola

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Speaker 2: in the monsoon, and then we're going. Dixon has won

464
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Speaker 2: a couple of new events Houston and at Motegi. Power

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Speaker 2: won in Baltimore in twenty eleven at South Paulo in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten in new events there.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you a question here about these

468
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Speaker 1: two events. So Power apologized for the issue with Rasmussen

469
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Speaker 1: that led to the basically kind of taking them both

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Speaker 1: out of the race. But it seems like we hung

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Speaker 1: the problem we in the plow Renus vk incident on

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Speaker 1: Renus when he's the trailing car. How are we viewing

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Speaker 1: those differently? Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because to me it felt like the one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent on anyone there. And I think you can find

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Speaker 2: some fault in both of those. So I will I

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Speaker 2: always like to defer to my driver friends, And I

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Speaker 2: think Hinch explained it pretty well on our call today

479
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Speaker 2: after everybody had looked at it a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: and his thought was, the leader is more at faults

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Speaker 2: because you do need to leave some room up there. However,

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Speaker 2: it's the trailing car that has more control of the

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Speaker 2: situation absolutely and can see so I think he was saying,

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Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm not blaming either one anywhere close

485
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Speaker 2: to one hundred percent. And I think Pelo said he

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Speaker 2: wasn't aware that VK was coming. And the point could

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Speaker 2: also be made that the trailing car had a lot

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Speaker 2: of momentum and didn't just want to give it up.

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Speaker 2: But they're going after it there, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: that you really have to be quite so aggressive from

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Speaker 2: the Rasmuss in case it's clear that he was better,

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Speaker 2: he probably should have waited a little bit more. I

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Speaker 2: think what Power was saying taking blame to himself. I

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Speaker 2: think he eventually said, I should have known who I

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Speaker 2: was racing. And that's the advantage that Rasmussen has. In hindsight.

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Speaker 2: Power feels I should have let this guy go because

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Speaker 2: I know he's either going to pass me or he's

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Speaker 2: going to crash. And that's the advantage that Christian has

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Speaker 2: at this point that everyone feels that he's nuts and

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Speaker 2: has no regard and his checkers are wreckers, and that

501
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: will work to his advantage, and I think he probably

502
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Speaker 2: is going to want to continue to have that reputation.

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Speaker 2: It works in his favor. Now inside, he's probably going

504
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Speaker 2: to don't want to pick a spots a little bit more,

505
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Speaker 2: but that reputation is going to last for a while,

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Speaker 2: even if he doesn't have any more moments.

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Speaker 1: I guess I would be inclined to say that the

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Speaker 1: trailing driver in each of those incidents had the most

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Speaker 1: control of the situation and could have could have helped

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Speaker 1: the situation. So I just didn't think it was I

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Speaker 1: get now kind of maybe what Power was trying to

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Speaker 1: explain without saying I should have let him go because

513
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Speaker 1: he's you know who he is. But I just thought

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Speaker 1: it was probably the responsibility of the trailing driver in

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Speaker 1: both incidents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a clip that has the in car

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Speaker 2: radio from Power. I think it's been mentioned that he

518
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Speaker 2: didn't get word from the clip. I saw he's being

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Speaker 2: told right rear corner, you know, he was being Now

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Speaker 2: is there enough time? Does that exactly sync up with

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Speaker 2: the video? I do not know. It could have come

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Speaker 2: too late, but the audio that appeared to be in line.

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Speaker 2: He is getting word that he's on your bumper, he's

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Speaker 2: looking right rear, that kind of thing. But there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to process when you're doing one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: miles an hour like that. It was. It was amazing

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Speaker 2: racing and how close it was and all the things

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Speaker 2: that were going on. And once again I use this

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Speaker 2: every week, don't listen to the drivers telling you it's

530
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Speaker 2: going to be professional, because this is about the fifth

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Speaker 2: oval short oval in a row where the majority said

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a parade. It's going to be

533
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Speaker 2: single file. When they get out there and they try

534
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Speaker 2: to race, they get after it. And now this was

535
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Speaker 2: not nearly unanimous. I've had some that were pretty unanimous

536
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Speaker 2: and it ended up being pretty good. Maybe the NASCAR

537
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: rubber helped a little bit. You know, we weren't sure

538
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Speaker 2: how the good Year rubber was going to work, but

539
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Speaker 2: you know, I know Joey mentioned that maybe it did

540
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Speaker 2: help because they're up there rubbering in the high line.

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Speaker 2: So that's another good sign how they can work together.

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Speaker 2: That there didn't seem to be any negative impact from

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Speaker 2: the two going back and forth.

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Speaker 1: The only thing we didn't see that I expected is

545
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Speaker 1: dramatic drop off in speed and lap times through the

546
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Speaker 1: tire stint. It wasn't as prominent as we have seen

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Speaker 1: in the past. Yep, Yeah, they were able to go

548
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: the full fuel stints and so when you get that,

549
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: you do get more coming in. And that's why it

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Speaker 1: was amazing that we still had good racing. Normally it

551
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Speaker 1: takes that major drop off to have it, but there

552
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Speaker 1: still were enough different strategies because of when cautions came

553
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Speaker 1: out and not everyone decided to take it. That added

554
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Speaker 1: to some intrigue. So huge home run. We'll get to more.

555
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Speaker 2: Inside the box score and who did well and you

556
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Speaker 2: know who already two races in is on the back

557
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Speaker 2: foot just a little bit. Another new event we got

558
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Speaker 2: more confirmation of and more details on. That's the Arlington

559
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Speaker 2: event as a part of America two fifty in August.

560
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what we learned there yesterday and much

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Speaker 2: more coming up. Track Side ninety three five one oh

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Speaker 2: seven five the fan. Hi, this is justin Newgarten and

563
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Speaker 2: you're listening to Trackside. Thank you for staying with us.

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Speaker 2: Before I forget. Next week's show will be so Monday

565
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Speaker 2: next week, Monday March sixteenth, seven o'clock. That works well

566
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Speaker 2: because I will be heading to Sebring for the twelve

567
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Speaker 2: hour on Tuesday morning, so we'll recap Arlington, talk about

568
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Speaker 2: an Indy car off weekend and much more coming up.

569
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Speaker 2: All right, before we get to Arlington, I want to

570
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Speaker 2: look back through my notes and see what else we

571
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Speaker 2: have and just kind of look at the box score.

572
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Speaker 2: What else do we need to touch on? From the

573
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Speaker 2: box score? From the Phoenix race.

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Speaker 1: Well, great save by the way by Dennis Hauger, How

575
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Speaker 1: did that happen? And you know the other element to

576
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Speaker 1: that great save if you will, by Christian Rasmussen in

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Speaker 1: the middle of that one. I mean, I first thought

578
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Speaker 1: that there was contact between the two. You know, replay

579
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Speaker 1: showed you could put your hand between the two of them,

580
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Speaker 1: but they didn't touch, so, you know, kind of excellent

581
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Speaker 1: work by both of them. You don't see that very often.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time a car coming off

583
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Speaker 1: turn two I guess I want to call it turn four,

584
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Speaker 1: but coming off that corner at Phoenix didn't hit something

585
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Speaker 1: because it just is always going to happen, and you know,

586
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: just just a big, you know, just a good, great

587
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: start for David Malucas in terms of qualifying, you know,

588
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Speaker 1: to get that one under his belt. I don't think

589
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Speaker 1: he needed any personal validation that he's earned that spot

590
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Speaker 1: with that team, but it certainly was a nice public

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Speaker 1: you know, show of have his abilities. So I think

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Speaker 1: that was you know, a real positive. You know, they's

593
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Speaker 1: just all kinds of you know drivers you mentioned ROSSI

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Speaker 1: I thought that was that was excellent, and I think

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Speaker 1: we just kind of felt like, now two races into

596
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Speaker 1: the season, the Team Benski's at least back to a

597
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: level where they can contend on a weekly basis. You know,

598
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Speaker 1: they lost their way a little bit in the middle

599
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Speaker 1: of the last season, but yeah, good star mel.

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Speaker 2: Lucas is disappointed because he led a lot of laps

601
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Speaker 2: and had a potential winning car, and the fight he

602
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: had with Newgarden mid race there, I sure shows that

603
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Speaker 2: I'm not here to defer. You know, he he got

604
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Speaker 2: after it for a little while, so I know he's

605
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Speaker 2: frustrated and thought it was there. But I still feel

606
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Speaker 2: like that's a really good start to the season. He's

607
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Speaker 2: shown pace at both weekends and it's coming. A win

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Speaker 2: is coming. And you know, as we said before, we

609
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Speaker 2: all wondered, how do you move will power out for

610
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Speaker 2: someone that hasn't won a pull or a race. And

611
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Speaker 2: I know I said this that well, the people at

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Speaker 2: Team Penske are a lot smarter than I am when

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Speaker 2: it comes to these kind of things, and he had

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Speaker 2: been David Malucas hired by Kerrel McLaren and Team Penske,

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00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: so they've seen something. Now we've seen some things too,

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: but you know, just looking at rough stats really good.

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Speaker 2: But they see the potential for greatness and I suspect

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Speaker 2: it's going to come. With Team Penske. Ray Haall Letterman

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Speaker 2: Lanigan deserves a lot of praise, had some optimism coming

620
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Speaker 2: in from the test at Phoenix, but to qualify two

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Speaker 2: cars this has been a massive problem for them on

622
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Speaker 2: any kind of oval, but even more so on short ovals.

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Speaker 2: They generally finish multiple laps down in a race just

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Speaker 2: based on pure pace and qualify, you know, somewhere. A

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Speaker 2: good qualifying would be fifteenth for them to qualify third

626
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Speaker 2: and fourth, and when one of them is doing his

627
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Speaker 2: very first oval race is a massive step forward. Graham

628
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Speaker 2: ran up near, you know, inside the top ten most

629
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Speaker 2: of the race, and I think the first stint he

630
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Speaker 2: was like fourth or fifth, did fine. He got a

631
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Speaker 2: decent result where he finished ninth, finished ninth, and Schumacher

632
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: slipped back as you would expect for a little while,

633
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Speaker 2: but was still I think tenth or eleven through the

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Speaker 2: first stin and then they had a wheel gun issue

635
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: which caught them back. So that's why he did not

636
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Speaker 2: finish on the lead lap. But I felt that was

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Speaker 2: very impressive for.

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Speaker 1: Them, absolutely, And I think Mike qualifying fourth was the

639
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: most surprising thing of the weekend. Honestly, he was outstanding.

640
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Speaker 1: And you know, and not just because he's a rookie,

641
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Speaker 1: not the first time, not just because it was the

642
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Speaker 1: first time on an oval, but very seldom do you

643
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Speaker 1: see a driver go out first in the qualifying line

644
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Speaker 1: and be able to hold it inside the top ten.

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Speaker 1: It's just, well, there's a reason why he's he's going

646
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Speaker 1: first in the qualifying line. Usually that means, you know,

647
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: he's he's performed poorly somewhere else. But in this case,

648
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: he goes out first, doesn't really know what kind of

649
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: speed he had as whether or not that was great

650
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: or average or somewhere in between, and it held up.

651
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: So and look the fact he was still on the

652
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: lead lap at the at kind of the that middle

653
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: part of the race when he had the pit stop,

654
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: that's very impressive.

655
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: You mentioned Hawber, he deserves credit as a rookie to

656
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: finish on the league lap, especially after spinning and showing

657
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: great skill. Some luck involved, but great skill to keep

658
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: it out of the wall and get things going. That's

659
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: a good start for him. Dixon stays alive. You know,

660
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: as we talked about last week, if you start the

661
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: season with two finishes in the back, you're probably not

662
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: winning the championship. When ale it's Polo is a part

663
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: of that championship. So he gets a seventh, so he's

664
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: still involved there. ROSSI gets a sixth, kind of the

665
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: same thing. Go ahead.

666
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: You know when Marcus Armstrong in the preseason media gathering said,

667
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, a good season for me to finish the

668
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: top three in the points, and I thought, what calendar

669
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: are you looking at? Because I don't think you can

670
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: get to the top three in twenty twenty six. Hey,

671
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: he finished fifth on an oval, a short oval. Hasn't

672
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been his outstanding venue. This kid's making a lot

673
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: of progress. Let's he deserves a lot of credit.

674
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: I think Marcus is looking at it rather matter of

675
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: factly and having some confidence in himself and knowing what

676
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: it's going to take. He told us if I was

677
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: in if Polo was in my car, he still would

678
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: have dominated the championship. So what he's saying is no excuses. Now,

679
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: he also said, you know, there are things that we

680
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: all need to get better at. As a team. We

681
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: can execute some things. But I think he said Polo

682
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: would have still won the championship if he was in

683
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: my car. My car is good enough to do it.

684
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: So top three is what we're looking at. My two

685
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: teammates are top three in the championship. I need to

686
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: be top three in the championship because he is essentially

687
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: in a Ganassi car. He has Ganassi engineers, he is

688
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: a Ganassi contracted driver. They're sharing information. Now, we all

689
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: know that would be a massive story, you know, just

690
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: to be in the top five and within shouting distance,

691
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: even though he would finish probably seventh last year in points,

692
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: so that would not seem to be a major jump.

693
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: But he was a long way back. He finished eighth,

694
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe fro finished sixth, sixth or something like that. Yeah,

695
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: So but Marcus is Marcus has got something. Yeah, I

696
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: just I wanted to point that out. He's you know,

697
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: a short oval is not where I would have expected

698
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: him to finish fifth. Yep.

699
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: So uh.

700
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: Scott McLaughlin might feel a little bit disappointed with not

701
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: being able to finish off with pretty good cars, you know,

702
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: where it's expected to go well in the first two weekends.

703
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: But if these are bad days, he's in great shape.

704
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: He comes out of the first two rounds third in

705
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: the championship, So there's something to work with for McLaughlin.

706
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: And the same can be said for Potter Award, who's

707
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: fourth in the championship. This is you know, it's early,

708
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: but this is an eighteen race championship, so after two

709
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: races you do start to look at these things.

710
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets late early, as you often say, but

711
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, and even though Polo had his trouble, finished

712
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: his twenty fifth or twenty fourth out of twenty fifth.

713
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: You know what is he nineteen points? He can have

714
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: that back, you know, by the end of the day

715
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: on Sunday.

716
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine, He's okay,

717
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: he'll be fine. But he can't have a lot of those.

718
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: He just can't have. No, you can't have a lot. Yeah,

719
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: what do we make of where will is? You know

720
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: he going into the race, he had crashed three times

721
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: in two weekends and now effectively he's crashed four times.

722
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't a big crash, but it was a crash that

723
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: kept him. You know, he was going to finish second

724
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: or third and instead finishes sixteenth. And now two rounds in,

725
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: he's clinging to the final leader circle spot. You're not

726
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: going to stay there, but he's twenty seconds and I

727
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: think already, unfortunately, we can forget about a championship when

728
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: you are that far back. It went from you know,

729
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: it was he it was zero to hero to maybe

730
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: not back to zero, but back to two. From the

731
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: way that race wents.

732
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: The problem is now you start to and this happens

733
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: whether you're down twenty early in a college basketball game

734
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you start feeling like you have to

735
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: make every shot. Do you start to press, you start

736
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: to press, or you start, you know, trying to avoid

737
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: mistakes as opposed to the aggression that it takes to

738
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: win one of these dog fights.

739
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: I feel for him.

740
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he crashes the same spot on

741
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: two different sessions in Saint Pete, then he has the

742
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: issue in Phoenix. It's just gonna have to go perfect

743
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: for him for about a month to get to get

744
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: back on track. Of course, winning the NDY five hundred

745
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: would do wonders for anybody. So it's not like it's

746
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: not salvageable, but he's gonna have to be perfect for

747
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: a while here.

748
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: And that's why it's hard not to press or to

749
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: reach because no matter how bad it's going, if you

750
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: can win a race. I always contend that if you

751
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: win a race in a season, in this championship, you've

752
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: had a good season. I agree, great season, but you

753
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: can be eighth or ninth or eleventh in points. If

754
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: you win a race, you've done something. Because unless you're

755
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: gonna win the championship or run up front all the time,

756
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: winning a race is what really gets people excited. That's

757
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: what stands out pop moments like that. So you're always

758
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: one away from that. And it won't shock us if

759
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: he wins at Arlington this week, and when we talk

760
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: about how does he crash a couple of times, you

761
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: know there's always more to it, and no one who knows,

762
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, I know they had some break issues at

763
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: Saint Pete. I suspect too, It's just part of the adjustment.

764
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: You've driven a Penske car forever. No one has ever

765
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: left Penske and found success anywhere else, it's really hard

766
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: to do. I saw Paul Tracy over the weekend. We

767
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: were chatting about that, and he said, well, I did,

768
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: and he's right. He is about it at someone that

769
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: had been with Penske for a while and still was

770
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: able to win moving on to another team because you've

771
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: kind of dealt with things a certain way and the

772
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: best way for a long time. Now. Not many have

773
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: left in, you know, when they still have a lot

774
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: left give, and that's what it's going to take as

775
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: an adjustment. And I still think he's going to get

776
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: there and he's going to be a factor this season.

777
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 2: It's just not going to be quite so instantaneous. What else,

778
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: anything else on this we need to mention. Let's shift

779
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: to Arlington then, and we got some new news, and

780
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, I think we can take this off the

781
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: questionable list. There's enough going on that this event is happening.

782
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: And I guess at one point they were going to

783
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: race around the Capitol and they've conceded to do some

784
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: things a little bit different there, and I'm all for that.

785
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Whatever makes this, you know, less of a burden or

786
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: less controversial as to whether there's noise too much of

787
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: it and advertisements. You're still seeing the Capital and the

788
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: Washington Monument and you're running on Pennsylvania. This to me,

789
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. Seems to have though, everything that we

790
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: could ask for in a big type of promotional events.

791
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

792
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: I think the which street you actually use is not

793
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: as significant. You're running essentially in front of the Capitol building.

794
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: You're running down Pennsylvania Avenue. It's gonna you know, it's

795
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: going to be a quick circuit. I mean, you're going

796
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: to get around there in less than a minute. It's

797
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: going to be fast.

798
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: Like Sebring short course, lapt It might be, it might be, but.

799
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be a big deal

800
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: for IndyCar. As I said earlier, I kind of wish

801
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: it was before July the fourth, or leading into the

802
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Giant July the fourth instead of mid August. But it'll

803
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: be fine. It'll be really it'll be a great visual.

804
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: The logos are spectacular. It looks like what it's supposed

805
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: to look like. It's going to be an attractive event.

806
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: I think it kind of fits the purpose as much

807
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: as we would like it to be before July fourth.

808
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: The goal by our government is to make this a

809
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: year long celebration, so we can't do everything on you know,

810
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: late June, on July fourth weekend, There's there's more to it.

811
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: So this allows them to extend the America two fifteen.

812
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: That's probably how this was able to happen. We learned

813
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: that there will be no support races, which makes a

814
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: lot of sense. It's a big ask to do this already,

815
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: and there is a small space available, so let's not

816
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: worry about anything else. Let's make this as simple as

817
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: possible to get through the weekend with as little difficulty

818
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: for all involved as possible. It becomes a two day event,

819
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: and by not having any support races, they can still

820
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: have the same amount of track time. We may actually

821
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: see more practice time in a two day event for

822
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: IndyCar than we do over a three day event, and

823
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: this allows them to maybe keep the roads open a

824
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: little bit longer. In that regard Saturday and Sunday August

825
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: twenty second and twenty third free tickets in the National

826
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Mall area, you are going to need to sign up

827
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: for those from what I read, so kind of keep

828
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: an eye on when that becomes available because they want

829
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: to know how many people are coming and make sure

830
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: they're a room. Have you heard if there is the

831
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: ability to buy a seat somewhere? Are they going to

832
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: have different less levels of grandstand tickets that could be available.

833
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: I've not seen that, and Bob Pocris was there and

834
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: I know he wrote a lot about it, and I

835
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: did not read that in there, So I think there

836
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: are still a few things that are TBD, so we

837
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: would keep an eye on that. If you want to

838
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: pay and have a reserve seat, maybe that option becomes available.

839
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: I have to believe there's going to be hospitality, but

840
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: do you need to be associated with someone or could

841
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: you buy a suite ticket? We will find out about that. Oh,

842
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: I did see likely sign up is starting in April,

843
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: so a month or so from now is when you

844
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: could start to sign up for those free tickets. And

845
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: then I think that's kind of the next round when

846
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: we might get some more details. So they just unveiled

847
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: the course. They had to get all that approved and

848
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: that is done on that front. So that's fun. You know,

849
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: that's another big potential event, and we'll learn more about

850
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: that as we move on. Some other nug I've read

851
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: that I've found of interest, and I have thrown this out.

852
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't think this is being discussed because I've mentioned

853
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: it to some of my bosses. But you know, on

854
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: this show, I've said, and I always know when Formulae

855
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: or the NHR or something that doesn't typically have massive

856
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: television ratings does a race in the fall at four

857
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: point thirty on Fox or CBS, and they get an

858
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: average audience of three or four million, because the starting

859
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: audience is ten million from the NFL, and it trickles

860
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: down and you still get a three or four million

861
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: dollar a three or four million audience average. So an

862
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Speaker 2: article from Adam Stern in Sports Business Journal quoting Doug

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Speaker 2: Bull saying Indy car is open to extending future seasons

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Speaker 2: into the fall if the right event could be set

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Speaker 2: up with a broadcast lead in on Fox. So I

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Speaker 2: honestly no one mentioned that to me this weekend. I

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Speaker 2: know I have mentioned it to some of my bosses.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I was telling them anything. They didn't know.

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Speaker 2: They're smart enough to know these kind of things. But

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear. But that's being discussed. So my

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Speaker 2: opinion has always been, I know people want, especially none

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Speaker 2: other sports fans think that we are cowering to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And my point has always been, if you care about

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Speaker 2: business of the sport, if the teams need to get

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Speaker 2: television ratings and the broadcast partner does, you don't want

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Speaker 2: to go head to head. But that is the way

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Speaker 2: if you can get the network on board and find

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Speaker 2: the right event. Still needs to be the right events

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Speaker 2: to run sometime in September, you can extend your season

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Speaker 2: if it can start at four thirty Eastern time. You're

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Speaker 2: still going head to head with the second round of

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Speaker 2: the NFL, but you can draw a good number with

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Speaker 2: an early Fox lead in that will be somewhere between

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Speaker 2: ten and fifteen million people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And I don't know whether that's a new

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Speaker 1: event or pushing an existing event back a few weeks,

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Speaker 1: but I did get I mean, the first thing that

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Speaker 1: came to mind was things you mentioned earlier. Could you

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Speaker 1: run at Kansas? Could you run it, you know, Homestead?

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Speaker 1: That seems too late, but I was thinking about what

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Speaker 1: does their schedule look like in late September early October?

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Speaker 2: Could you revisit Nashville? Yeah, I still think there is

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to go back downtown. Once the Titan Stadium

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Speaker 2: is done, we will know that once that is all finished.

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Speaker 2: But I think that is a possibility, and I would

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Speaker 2: love for IndyCar to be able to still race the

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Speaker 2: Nashville super Speedway if that event continues to do well enough.

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Speaker 2: We need to keep seeing the crowds, you know, look

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Speaker 2: correct for that, but you can spread those out by

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Speaker 2: two or three months, and I think that market is

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Speaker 2: big enough to make both of those events work. So

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Speaker 2: that's what I know. There are other things, but we're

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Speaker 2: short on time, but I want to see what we

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Speaker 2: missed and maybe check into Twitter xbox in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Track Side ninety three to five, one oh seven to

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Speaker 2: five the fan, Hi, this is Kyle Kirkwood, and you're

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Speaker 2: listening to track side final segment and what we miss

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Speaker 2: The IndyCar television ratings are out from Phoenix. Came out

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Speaker 2: late this afternoon, and in my opinion, they are quite good.

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Speaker 2: One point two four seven million viewers plus ninety five

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Speaker 2: percent from the similar window from last year over the

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Speaker 2: Saturday races on Fox, seventy seven percent over the second

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Speaker 2: race of the season from last year. Peaked at one

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Speaker 2: point four to six eight million at the end of

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Speaker 2: the race, best Saturday viewership since one point two to

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Speaker 2: five million barely better. June sixth of twenty. That was

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Speaker 2: the season opening race when during COVID, when IndyCar was

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Speaker 2: the only sport going along with NASCAR and maybe Formula

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Speaker 2: one had started. So awesome, Star, very very happy for that,

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Speaker 2: and thank you to all those that watched, and we'll

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Speaker 2: try again this weekend from Arlington. Friday is in FS

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Speaker 2: two day three o'clock Eastern time for Indie Next practice,

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Speaker 2: followed by IndyCar practice at four o'clock Saturday. We started

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Speaker 2: nine to thirty eastern on FS one. The rest of

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Speaker 2: the day is on FS two with practice qualifying including

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Speaker 2: the next qualifying session and remember single lap qualifying for

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Speaker 2: the Firestone Fast six. That'll be cool to kind of

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Speaker 2: spotlight those teams on Saturday afternoon and who can get

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Speaker 2: it done on simply one lap. Sunday, the warm up

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Speaker 2: is at ten o'clock on FS one Eastern time, then

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Speaker 2: the Indie Next race at eleven o'clock. Ryan Hunter Ray

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Speaker 2: joins us in the booth pre race. Chris Myers will

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Speaker 2: be there twelve thirty eastern on Fox Green Flag one seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Hope you can join us and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: next Monday night at seven here on track side