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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of guys rooting for Ashton Dueling,

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Speaker 1: and he was one of many bright spots for the

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Speaker 2: On the payleoss S Liquors hotline as we speak, coming

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Speaker 2: off the heels of a forty to six win against

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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. Good morning, Ashton Dueling. How much

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Speaker 2: fun did you have yesterday?

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Speaker 3: My friend?

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Speaker 4: Good morning? I appreciate that. Yeah, it was definitely lots

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Speaker 4: of all yesterday. Yeah, get a win like that and

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Speaker 4: at home is definitely a good feeler.

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Speaker 3: Ashton. You strike me as a dud that doesn't get tired.

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Speaker 3: You just played a career high in offensive snaps. Are

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Speaker 4: No body definitely feeling a little bit. But that's what

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Speaker 4: I signed up for. You know seven years when you

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Speaker 3: New, so no thought to go to the old oxygen

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Speaker 3: after the kick return, I literally would have been on

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Speaker 4: It's actually funny because a couple of guys were like,

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Speaker 4: don't even think about it. I probably should have think

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Speaker 4: a high insight, but fight next time.

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Speaker 1: Ashton, When you look at what your office was able

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Speaker 1: clicking at a rate that we just haven't seen for

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Speaker 1: a team that once had Peyton Manning. I mean you

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Speaker 1: all scored on six straight possessions, and not just scored,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I think it's just testaments. You know, how

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Speaker 1: Game, Shane Stiken described you as being tough and gritty.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that assessment? And how would you

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Speaker 1: describe just your path from you know, Malone which no

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fair description. You know, I shot

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Speaker 4: I prout myself when you know, doing whatever day of

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Speaker 4: So you know that's been doing for seven years now.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just got seen to do that and just

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Speaker 2: All I know is I want to ask the dueling

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Speaker 2: through what it's like in the huddle with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're all kind of getting to know him

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Speaker 2: And what do you see?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he attacks every day the same as far

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Speaker 3: I think you've told the story before, but for audience

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Speaker 4: And you know, Indie was always kind of my second

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Speaker 3: I totally forgot that you were born here. Where were

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I was born in Elkhart, Indiana. She was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be given like Ashton, Dolon just r

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Speaker 1: We had to get the Wikipedia page updated Ashton, because

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Speaker 1: It says you're born in Ohio. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: here on.

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Speaker 3: The internet.

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Speaker 4: Wikipedia, you know, anybody any Wikipedia. So it's a free

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in and and and change it to Ashton.

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Speaker 1: Uh doesn't get tired dueling and you know as your name. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Actually, so, can you describe.

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Speaker 1: Your football career pre malone, because from what I understand,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I mean so obviously I played throughout little league,

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Speaker 4: That was always a goal of mine. But you know,

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Speaker 3: a third, Frank, I thought that other one was a

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Speaker 3: here on the payloff stickers hot line. What is the

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Speaker 3: new kickoff rule? Like, I'm stressed following it?

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Speaker 2: What is that like?

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Speaker 4: know you got a shot pretty much almost every kickoff.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, you just got to find the holes

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Speaker 4: and you know, trust your blocks, and then you know

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Speaker 4: he gonna got a big play on the rise.

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Speaker 3: Biggest thing you've learned from Reggie Wayne since he's been

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Speaker 4: Oh man, is you know he he diagnoses coverage, you know,

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Speaker 4: probably burying anybody else. You know, he's going to feel

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Speaker 4: he's gonna stilight sometimes, you know, just yelling at us

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Speaker 4: what the coverage is. And right before the play you

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Speaker 4: might see a picture. You know, it changes and he's

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Speaker 4: able to He might eat me. Sometimes we can him,

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Speaker 4: sometimes we can't. You know, he doesn't know that. Don't

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Speaker 4: tell him nothing, but when he when he sees it,

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Speaker 4: you know, he's yelling on the sideline, cover two, cover four, whatever,

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Speaker 4: you know, but just having him there and he makes,

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Speaker 4: you know, makes reading defenses easier, you know, makes you

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Speaker 4: comfortable go out there and play and untrust your abilities.

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Speaker 3: Is he a coach that shows his own highlights to you?

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Speaker 4: Uh, to believe it or not, He's probably only showed

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Speaker 4: probably I could probably count one hand how many times

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Speaker 4: he showed me his highlights, probably all of us as

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Speaker 4: a whole. He doesn't really brag too much, but he

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Speaker 4: definitely shows us. Is is like when he's he's you know,

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Speaker 4: breaking down a certain route or something like that, he'll

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Speaker 4: definitely go back to the archives and probably's one on

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Speaker 4: one clips to him, just just routing somebody up and

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Speaker 4: you know what you're doing what he does.

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Speaker 2: Hey, while we're talking about wide receivers, one of the

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Speaker 2: things I really like about this group. And obviously Jonvian

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Speaker 2: Taylor is one of, if not the best running back

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Speaker 2: in the NFL right now, But running backs in the

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Speaker 2: NFL don't get yards unless wide receivers, not just offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen do their job and make blocks. This group seems

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Speaker 2: totally bought in on making sure you make your block

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Speaker 2: into games when it comes to you just making sure

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Speaker 2: you steal your edge, you take care of the cornerback,

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Speaker 2: you you help create that whole. What's that like for

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Speaker 2: you guys?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I mean everybody in the receiver room is

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Speaker 4: ready to block for till for anybody. You know, they

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Speaker 4: have the clichees and a block to get the rock.

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Speaker 4: So that you know, we're all kind of bought in

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Speaker 4: on making sure no our guy doesn't make the tackle,

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Speaker 4: because if he doesn't make the tap going and ready

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Speaker 4: to count as a loss every time. That doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: if your guy makes the tackle, whether you you know,

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Speaker 4: you beat him in the first five yards and you

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Speaker 4: had a good block for that first you know, two

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Speaker 4: attack where he makes the play, Reggie count has a loss.

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Speaker 4: So for us, it's it's no lecture, man, make the

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Speaker 4: tackle and let JT go to work.

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Speaker 2: Great fun to talk to you this morning, Nice job yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's been a fun season so far. Keep it going,

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Speaker 2: my man. We appreciate watching you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir, yes, and d appreciate you having

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Speaker 4: me have a good one,