WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/7/26

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<v Speaker 1>And where are we going here? Anything you have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance against ours? Mister cowboy? Hey mother, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>like to do? Oh? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Play chess? School Seller's play chess?

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<v Speaker 3>They give off that Jonathan Taylor chuck cutting its way

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<v Speaker 3>walking the goal line. He's in there, put down andde

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<v Speaker 3>why Jonathan Taylor Reler finds lawn.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's halliburn into the front court, mishandled it mcgainst any

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<v Speaker 4>shots it?

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<v Speaker 5>John.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never been bedroom to be on the air

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<v Speaker 3>with you here in Indianapolis, a place where so many

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<v Speaker 3>of my dreams have come true. The ride with JM

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<v Speaker 3>V on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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<v Speaker 3>the fan, Hey, welcome into the show. Cayler's over there,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm John right here. That's one hell of a day

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<v Speaker 3>we had yesterday, wasn't it. That is the springboard we

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<v Speaker 3>need to have a fantastic weekend. We've got jack assery

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<v Speaker 3>all around. It started with the inbound new boy, the

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<v Speaker 3>maker ad who's presence? Yes, or I should say today

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<v Speaker 3>on Query and Company clarified things. You know, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>thought about this had you been in a similar spotlight.

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<v Speaker 3>We all think we have the answers. I know I

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<v Speaker 3>act like I have the answers. In fact, there's nobody

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<v Speaker 3>out there that has less answers about anything than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you, the one truth thing that I know

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel comfortable in. This is all really the

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<v Speaker 3>massive amount of things.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's how I'm able to walk around

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<v Speaker 3>upright and not constantly run into stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, otherwise it would be it'd be difficult. It would

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<v Speaker 5>But how would you guys have handled that?

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<v Speaker 3>If you are Tommy McClellan, would you have just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it looked like it was scripted and we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go by his word. He appeared with Jake a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit earlier today on Query and Company to clear

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<v Speaker 3>the air and said, you know what, it was just

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<v Speaker 3>me trying to be funny, and if you gather a

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<v Speaker 3>dude like that, probably rarely, if ever, has been funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's face it, guys, guys like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's an incredibly intelligent human being, but making people laugh

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<v Speaker 3>is probably not at the top of his This is

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<v Speaker 3>what I've done list, nor will it be.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean, Hey, this will be funny

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<v Speaker 5>when I knock him dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So I.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of wondered about is any boiler Maker fans

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<v Speaker 3>that are left out there that are not on the

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<v Speaker 3>side of man, I wish this crap cloud would just

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<v Speaker 3>go away, and you're thankful for the weekend because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we all have short attention span, so we're gonna forget about.

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<v Speaker 5>It by Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you wish if you're not hoping that it

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<v Speaker 3>just simply goes away, how about just flexing on it

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<v Speaker 3>and going, Hey, well, this is what we expect. We're Purdue,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what we strive for. This is a new world,

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<v Speaker 3>a new era, new landscape. You could have mixed in. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, our competitors to the south, they got a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of something right now. Now it's up to

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<v Speaker 3>us to go at it too. That's why I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to raise some funds. I'm here to obtain

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<v Speaker 3>some cash and spread it around and bring high level

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<v Speaker 3>winning to this football program. I'm here to back up

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<v Speaker 3>Barry Odemar football coach. Would you have doubled down on

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<v Speaker 3>that at all? Or that have just made it worse?

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<v Speaker 3>But flexing on that a little bit? Hey, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I said? What I said, that's what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>by God? Or do you just say man, I really

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<v Speaker 3>jecked this thing up, and I was trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>funny and I'm not, which again, you can look at it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a guy that probably rarely has ever been

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<v Speaker 3>funny about anything. That was probably the funniest he's ever

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<v Speaker 3>been and it was by accident. So I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine that that was a comfortable situation for him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say this, I will give I'll give

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<v Speaker 3>him credit for coming on. This is what he had

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<v Speaker 3>with Jake a little bit earlier. This is new on

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<v Speaker 3>the Inbound ad Tommy McClellan up Purdue talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>statement that he made that everybody has been talking about

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<v Speaker 3>for the past twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 4>The last several days has just been an incredible opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>for me and my family. As we've arrived here in

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<v Speaker 4>the Greater Lafayette community, we've had an incredible worm welcome,

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<v Speaker 4>and yesterday was another banner day of that, being able

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<v Speaker 4>to share the vision and the hope and the optimism

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<v Speaker 4>and the where are we going the trajectory of Purdue

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<v Speaker 4>Athletics and what can be And in the midst of

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<v Speaker 4>that great day made an off the script, off the script,

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<v Speaker 4>off the cuff remark about an instate rival as a

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<v Speaker 4>joke that didn't land well, And I knew it immediately

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<v Speaker 4>as it came out of my mouth. And you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it's like taking the ball in the first tee

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<v Speaker 4>and putting it in the lake.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to tee it up.

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<v Speaker 4>The good news, Jake, is that we've got eighteen more holes.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that bothered me, probably more than anything, is

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<v Speaker 4>it becomes a distraction to what the focus is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get the attention on where are we

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<v Speaker 4>trying to go? How are we going to get there?

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<v Speaker 4>We've got six hundred thousand living alums, fifty five plus

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<v Speaker 4>thousand students, an incredible state, We've got an incredible opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>ahead of us, and the last thing I want is

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<v Speaker 4>an off the comfort mark to be a distraction to

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<v Speaker 4>what the real goal is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will say this, I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a distraction to what the real goal is. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a need of the nuts to the fan base, That's

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<v Speaker 3>what it was. It was an embarrassing need of the nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like something from where the home videos, remember

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<v Speaker 3>the Yeah that show? Right, what's the Golden Yeah, funniest

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<v Speaker 3>home video and you know, all the funniest moments is

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<v Speaker 3>when accidentally some guy got hit in the nuts every

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<v Speaker 3>single time. That's really the only thing that was redeemable

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<v Speaker 3>about that show is you're going to get like fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>different nutshots and we're all going to laugh. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>the boy, the maker fan base felt like yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 3>there was not a distraction. There's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a distraction. This will loom above his head until they

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<v Speaker 3>prove otherwise. And when you win, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff goes away. When you win, everybody is quiet. When

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<v Speaker 3>you win, you no longer are a part of the

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<v Speaker 3>butt of jokes. I think what's more distracting on what

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<v Speaker 3>has been more distracting for the fan base and for

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<v Speaker 3>what Purdue is trying to do is what the football

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<v Speaker 3>team has looked like and some of the decision making

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<v Speaker 3>with the football program, and you know, moving forward now

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully you get that right with Barry Odom who

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<v Speaker 3>to me seems like he says and does all the

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<v Speaker 3>right things. And even though you're the boss, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you all know that Matt Painter always does and says

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<v Speaker 3>the right things. So luckily for you, even though you

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<v Speaker 3>are the boss, you can kind of look around the

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<v Speaker 3>room a little bit and people can help you out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that that was distracting. But I

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<v Speaker 3>will give the tip of the cap for him going

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<v Speaker 3>on Jake's show and saying what he said.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to to own it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was not a distraction. It was simply put

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing as hell. That's exactly what you don't want. Distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, the distraction hopefully will go away quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was embarrassing to a lot of folks. And

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<v Speaker 3>the moral of the story is, if your forte is

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<v Speaker 3>not being funny, then probably don't try it in your

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<v Speaker 3>introductory press conference after you at ben tabbed as the

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<v Speaker 3>next athletic director at Purdue.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it. Know what you don't know?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you that's how I walk around because I

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<v Speaker 3>am as dumb as this table top, and I realize it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not trying to fool anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys ever notice on this show, Hey, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>sound like Jamb's trying to fool anybody with this dialogue

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<v Speaker 3>and his ut words usage. Why because I know about

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<v Speaker 3>five is why I can't fool anybody I'm not smart

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<v Speaker 3>enough to fool anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's where you can't officially embark on what is the

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<v Speaker 3>true battle right there? And yesterday unfortunately the new l

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<v Speaker 3>LETI director there did not know what he didn't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be funny, the old zinger, the old zinger.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that dude's name that went on Letterman the

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<v Speaker 3>time and thought he was being funny and it just

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<v Speaker 3>turned out to be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 5>Was his name? Crispin Glover? Is that who that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is that somebody different? Here's the guy that did

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<v Speaker 3>the karate kick and it whizz right by Letterman's face.

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<v Speaker 3>That who I'm thinking of, Crispin Glover. See, he thought

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<v Speaker 3>he may have been high on drugs at that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>which is completely different. But he thought at that time

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<v Speaker 3>that he was trying to be funny and it wasn't funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You can got to know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So hopefully now for Tommy McClellan, their vision of what

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<v Speaker 3>they believe he can bring to that athletic program and

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<v Speaker 3>institution can become a reality and knuckleheads like me can

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<v Speaker 3>stop making fun of it. You got to know what

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know, man, especially, I don't know how many people, Hey, Caleb,

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<v Speaker 3>how many people out there you think are as dumb

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<v Speaker 3>as me? Give me a great example. It just happened

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<v Speaker 3>literally fifteen minutes ago, did it not? Caleb says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>did you send me that thing for email?

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<v Speaker 5>Said? Yeah, I said it to you. Where is it?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't find it? You don't see what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't send it. It's in there all the desktop.

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<v Speaker 3>And Eddie Garrison said, it's probably still in your desktop.

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<v Speaker 3>See he knows he guy is the guy. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>very bright right here. It's probably still in there on

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<v Speaker 3>his desktop. He may have just forgotten to do it

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<v Speaker 3>all together. But no fault of yours. I get reminded

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<v Speaker 3>of that on not a weekly, not a daily, but

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<v Speaker 3>an hourly basis, And that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I have learned to live with it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to hear the entire conversation, Jake was

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<v Speaker 3>out at the State Fair the opening day of the

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<v Speaker 3>State Fair going on. It looks like started out with rain.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like it's hot and humid and sunny right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go to it. And certainly you can listen

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<v Speaker 3>to that conversation with Tommy McClelland and Jake on a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast at one oh seven five fan dot com. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get to the Fever in just a second, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you thought that that was going to be all

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<v Speaker 3>she wrote in the terms of embarrassing situations on a Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>you had yet watched the Fever play against the Vegas Aces,

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<v Speaker 3>because that was some embarrassing stuff too, all the way around,

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<v Speaker 3>All the way around. Tricia Thompson, ESPN bot of the Hour,

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<v Speaker 3>how many thirty for thirties has she been involved with?

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<v Speaker 3>I know that she's involved with the show aotani thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but how many do you know at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Not thirty for thirty specifically, but she's done broke a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of stories, even about you know, Daniel Snyder's ownership

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<v Speaker 6>with the Washington Commanders.

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<v Speaker 5>She's very, very plugged in.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you've seen anything about the show, heyo Tani, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>thirty for thirty. I think it's a real interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 6>conversation just about gambling and that whole story because it

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<v Speaker 6>is it is a never ending rabbit hole, that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So excited rabbit hole reference right there. That's the first

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<v Speaker 3>time the rabbit hole reference has ever been used on

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<v Speaker 3>this show. Yeah, happy to use I and I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting you are, but I normally associate terms

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<v Speaker 3>like that with nerds.

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<v Speaker 5>File that under with green dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the green dot, rabbit holes. Mount Rushmore's of using narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the top I got onetionality, optionality, another one

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<v Speaker 3>top five nerdery.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how you tell me automatical And I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not suggesting you are, but maybe you're showing signs of

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<v Speaker 3>nerdery when you go in those categories. It's Caleb over there,

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<v Speaker 3>up John and bottom of the ole. Tricia Thompson is

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<v Speaker 3>going to join us. I will tell you this. Don

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<v Speaker 3>Fisher just got back with me. Don says he can join.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see if we can go at five thirty with

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<v Speaker 3>Don today.

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<v Speaker 1>That works.

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<v Speaker 3>Don Fisher, Voice of the Hoosiers. We're bringing Bob Lovell

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<v Speaker 3>back once again. Four year number one, thoy thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob lovel is going to join us today at four thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>He starts once again after a summer long vacation hiatus.

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<v Speaker 3>He is back with Indiana Sports Talk. That, my friends,

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<v Speaker 3>is what you call an institution. Did you see the

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<v Speaker 3>meeting of the minds out here. A little bit earlier

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<v Speaker 3>this week, we had Bob Lovell here and we had

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<v Speaker 3>Ray from Telemundo. There are two of the most interesting

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<v Speaker 3>men in the world right there. He is, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe what's going on here. I felt compelled just

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<v Speaker 3>to say, can somebody snap a photograph of all of

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<v Speaker 3>us together right here? The most interesting dudes in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob's going to join us today at four thirty. Pat

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<v Speaker 3>Sullivan Sullivan Hardware and Garden hashtag asked, Pat, get those

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<v Speaker 3>questions in. Somebody's gonna win some stuff. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>it's the Ride with JMV Yetties. You guys dig on

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<v Speaker 3>free and I know that to be true because I've

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of Howard Jones winners. Chime in, go hey,

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<v Speaker 3>where are my tickets? I won these tickets. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have them yet, So I've been helping you make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you have those tickets for later on tonight, because

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are all going to buy me beers for

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<v Speaker 3>my effort. But Pat Sullivan with free stuff, the Ride

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<v Speaker 3>with JMV Free Yetties on the person that Caleb selects

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<v Speaker 3>that we either talk to you on the phone that

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<v Speaker 3>has a question hashtag Guss Pat, or we read your question.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's via three one, seven, two, nine, ten seventy

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<v Speaker 3>on text line, or maybe it's at jamb ten seventy

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<v Speaker 3>on X. Maybe it's an email. Whatever, somebody's gonna win it.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus he always brings some cool stuff in here, which

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<v Speaker 3>is nice. Pat Sullivan top of the four o'clock how

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned Bob Lovell four thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt the need for all of us, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 5>you understand this. I felt the need.

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<v Speaker 3>I was compelled to lead us all down the path

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<v Speaker 3>of knowledge of education for the twenty twenty six college

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<v Speaker 3>football season. Does it feel like it's time?

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<v Speaker 5>You know this to be true?

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<v Speaker 3>The gateway to every college football season always starts on

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<v Speaker 3>this show. It always starts with the Almanac, the college

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<v Speaker 3>football Preview. And you can get that via hard copy.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go to Books a Million, you can go

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<v Speaker 3>to Barnes and Noble. Get that bad boy rot off

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<v Speaker 3>the magazine rack. Put that right next to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody has ever been educated more as a member of

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<v Speaker 3>Generation X than toilet readings. It is a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to be like Desmond Howard will have nothing on.

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<v Speaker 3>You think Kirk Herbstreet knows something, You're gonna know more

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<v Speaker 3>because that college football preview is right next to your crapper.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil's going to join us, so we're all going to

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<v Speaker 3>be educated on the college football season. Coming up at

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<v Speaker 3>the five o'clock hour mark of this show. Phil Steele,

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<v Speaker 3>as usual his annual destination is on this show at

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<v Speaker 3>five o'clock, and it looks like as long as he

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<v Speaker 3>can do it. At five thirty today, the voice of

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<v Speaker 3>the Hoosiers, Don Fischer, will join us for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>So cannot wait for that, all right. I hate to

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<v Speaker 3>do it because we're feeling so good even after that loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Going back to Sunday, we were feeling good, feeling about

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<v Speaker 3>what do I say?

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<v Speaker 5>And I may have to put this up on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dorkery Mount Rushmore of this is how I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>a nerd terms, but we thought that this team had

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<v Speaker 3>turned the corner.

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<v Speaker 5>And you lose in Minnesota on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>It was game three of after the All Star Break,

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<v Speaker 3>a three game road trip and the Link's best team

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<v Speaker 3>right now, the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 5>So you give them that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you go home and they get off to

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<v Speaker 3>what a twenty two point advantage early on. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I've ever seen a team lose a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two point lead as quickly as the Fever did

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<v Speaker 3>in the first half of that game last night. That

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<v Speaker 3>was amazing. Anybody ever seen a lead? Seriously, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you do. You think if you would have

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<v Speaker 3>just pulled the all five players off the floor and

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas could have just gone by virtue of not getting

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<v Speaker 3>the inback, you know, I don't know if you would

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<v Speaker 3>lose the lead as quickly as they did.

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<v Speaker 5>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It really was.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything was going wrong and so many of the issues

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<v Speaker 5>that this team has had this season.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing about it was the biggest issue during

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<v Speaker 3>that moment was the lack of offense. They went forever

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<v Speaker 3>in a day without scoring. That has never been an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a serious issue last night. And these are

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<v Speaker 3>some things this late in the season where you go,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, so have we been fooled about where this

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<v Speaker 3>team has been as we get to this portion of

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<v Speaker 3>the season. There is zero way if you're the team

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<v Speaker 3>that's rotten, full of expectations and things to live up to,

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<v Speaker 3>and as talented across the board as this team is

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<v Speaker 3>at home, You're going to turn this thing over twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one times and don't give me that vegas pressure defense

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<v Speaker 3>both sides. It was awful offense and at best it

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<v Speaker 3>was half assed defense. You turned the ball over twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one times in IHLA, I think the Aces turned it

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<v Speaker 3>over sixteen, and there was very little defense being played.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball was just going absolutely everywhere. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we got these ten people out here and this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first time they've ever seen this round thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It was awful.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a moment where you thought, I gotta turn

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<v Speaker 3>this off. It is awful basketball. It was awful basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>But under those circumstances, if you're the fever at home,

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<v Speaker 3>you just want to survive it. And they were in

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<v Speaker 3>position to survive it, and then unfortunately for their star

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<v Speaker 3>and their team, it unreveled in Tommy McClellan embarrassing fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what that was. An embarrassment last night. You

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<v Speaker 3>cannot have that happen if it is a team that

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<v Speaker 3>is going all out and they're tough and they're just

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<v Speaker 3>coming down hard on you, and you've got, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia Miles of the Lynx is out there just taking

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<v Speaker 3>you off the dribble and scoring it will That was

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<v Speaker 3>both sides.

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<v Speaker 5>Of it was crapwater.

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<v Speaker 3>It was there was no need for what you had

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<v Speaker 3>to witness last night inside of Gambridge field House and

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<v Speaker 3>Caitlin Clark, unfortunately, in the closing moments of that game,

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<v Speaker 3>the superstar of the team and of the league, certainly

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<v Speaker 3>the profile of the league. You have to close that

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<v Speaker 3>you missed two free throws. Kelsey Mitchell misses a free throw.

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<v Speaker 3>You had that up one incredibly awful position and know

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<v Speaker 3>that was not a foul on Asia Wilson. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>she got fouled. She Here's what happened. Caitlin Clark goes

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<v Speaker 3>up to pass the ball deflected. Both had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to go up and get it. Wilson went up to

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<v Speaker 3>get it. She is the bigger player, and in the

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<v Speaker 3>process of getting the ball discarded Caitlin Clark whom turned

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<v Speaker 3>the ball over.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't give me that she was foul. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>foul on the play. The defensive play was made and

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<v Speaker 3>there was just some discombobulation And I think it all

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<v Speaker 3>comes down to the discombobulation of the offensive night that

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<v Speaker 3>Kaitlin Clark was having which would also stand the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why you saw her at the free throw line with

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to put the game away by hitting one

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<v Speaker 3>free throw up three. One free throw does it for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you missed two with a little over seven seconds remaining.

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<v Speaker 3>Cannot happen. We would say that about anybody on that.

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<v Speaker 3>We would say that about Tyrese Haliburton. In a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>it cannot happen. Zero of two cannot happen. And Caitlin

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<v Speaker 3>Clarke herself talked about this after the game, described her play,

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<v Speaker 3>especially during late game circumstances into regulation and into overtime,

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<v Speaker 3>as follow.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously just can't happen. And those are free throws I

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<v Speaker 7>usually make and certainly frustrating, you know. Obviously one of

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<v Speaker 7>them gives us a two possession lead and kind of

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<v Speaker 7>cost my name there for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she knows better than anybody else, and she

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<v Speaker 3>should know better than anybody else. Hey, it's tough to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with and it stinks to deal with, but that

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<v Speaker 3>that can't happen. As she said, that cannot happen. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't just give that away. They just gave that away

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<v Speaker 3>last night. But that was some excruciatingly awful basketball really

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 3>on both sides. I mean, Chelsea Gray knocked down a

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 3>couple of threes, and hey, it's not lost on me.

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 3>With Stephanie White, I didn't think they had enough time

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<v Speaker 3>to foul when they were up three. However, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I'd come out and say, well, we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>going to listen, the whole thing looked like an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>unathletic mess. Trying to put that thing away defensively, they

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<v Speaker 3>just did you throw it in. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to secure Stephanie White center. You got to secure that

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 3>fifty to fifty ball. We knew what they were gonna run.

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Alexi Hall had her head turned, had no idea where

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<v Speaker 3>the ball was. She was face guarding, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>ball bounced in the right direction, right to Chelsea Gray.

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<v Speaker 3>She knocks down a wide ass open three. Can't happen. So,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will say this, and you're gonna say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just a f the coach. By the way, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one turnovers, misfree throws, lack of execution late, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>on the coach. Now, I would question why the coach

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>was not even if there was not enough time to

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<v Speaker 3>implement a fouling process there. Why you weren't thinking about that?

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I would question that, But everything else is on the players.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all on the players, and really your criticism is

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<v Speaker 3>going to come down to who you like and who

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 3>you don't like. So all the Kaitlin Clark zelots out

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 3>there are going to say, wow, you know she got

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 3>fouled there on that play or is here, this is

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 3>what was going on. They're trying to keep the ball

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<v Speaker 3>away from and none of that could be further from

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>the truth. You know who said it right, you know

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 3>who had the accurate description, Kaitlin Clark. So just listen

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 3>to that. No, you have to listen to me. I'm right,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 3>But you don't have to listen to me. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to listen to somebody that knows and then truly

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 3>believe it. If you don't buy it right now, listen

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<v Speaker 3>to Caitlin Clark. What we just played was all that

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>needed to be said. Yeah, that was an embarrassing laws

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<v Speaker 3>So the introduction of the new Bullermaker ad was beyond embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 5>Steven A.

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<v Speaker 3>Smith going off on it, I think he said the

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<v Speaker 3>most embarrassing moment ever. It'd be the most embarrassing moment. Ever,

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<v Speaker 3>if it mattered as much as what Steven A. Smith

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<v Speaker 3>thinks it matters, I mean around here everybody got aroused

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<v Speaker 3>by it, right well, I should say this maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite of arousal for Bullermaker fans, but you know what

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody got stirred up about it around here. Yeah, nationwide.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just kind of the bud of jokes and

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<v Speaker 3>it was embarrassing. But yeah, most embarrassing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll probably pop something off coming up Monday that he

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<v Speaker 3>feels is even more embarrassing than that.

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<v Speaker 5>On the Eddie Moore Automotive Group Potlain and on the Ride.

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<v Speaker 3>With JMV from ESPN investigative reporter, Hey, I'm bolting my

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<v Speaker 3>windows and doors right now, covering up because Tisha Thompson

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 3>joins us, you ever often get that as an investigative

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<v Speaker 3>reporter at the highest level.

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<v Speaker 5>People kind of signe Stephanie A bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People are like, do you want to look at my

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<v Speaker 2>phone right now?

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<v Speaker 3>How does one focus in on wanting to become and

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<v Speaker 3>or accomplish what you have in your world? Your realm

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<v Speaker 3>of investigative reporting, especially on this latest thirty for thirty

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<v Speaker 3>on show, Heyo Tani.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, a lot of it comes from people

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<v Speaker 2>with tips. That's how this story started.

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<v Speaker 8>We got a tip in October twenty twenty three, which,

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<v Speaker 8>just to help people remember, was right before the news

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<v Speaker 8>broke that show Heyo Tani was about or signed a

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<v Speaker 8>seven hundred million dollar contract to play with the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 8>So behind the scenes, while everybody was talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About that, I was trying to figure out if this

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<v Speaker 2>tip was true or not. You know, we get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of tips.

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<v Speaker 8>At the ESPN Investigative Unit. Sometimes you never learn anything

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 8>about them because they just.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't follow through. In this case, we had.

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<v Speaker 8>Good documents, We talked to a lot of sources, and

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<v Speaker 8>it ended up being one heck of a story where

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<v Speaker 8>we ended up following the money.

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<v Speaker 5>How long did it take you to verify that tip

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<v Speaker 5>to be accurate?

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<v Speaker 8>The initial tip was accurate. It was literally right on

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<v Speaker 8>the money, and we got that in October of twenty

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 8>twenty three, and we ended up publishing our first story.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a number of stories in March of.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty twenty four, right as the regular season was getting

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<v Speaker 8>started that year.

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<v Speaker 3>So Tisha Thompson joins US investigative reporter from ESPN. Before

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<v Speaker 3>I get started on this thirty for thirty in your

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<v Speaker 3>so your I Guess World of tips? What is the

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<v Speaker 3>percentage of those that have turned out to be accurate

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<v Speaker 3>compared to those that have led to nowhere?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, most of the time the original tip is accurate.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 8>What happens is trying to confirm it or find multiple

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 8>sources for it. I mean that was the challenge with

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 8>this story in particular, is we knew money was going

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 8>from show hey Otani's bank account to an illegal bookmaker.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>And the reason why that was important is I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody these days knows.

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<v Speaker 8>You cannot bet on baseball if you're a baseball player

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<v Speaker 8>or a staffer with.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball. That is against the rules.

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<v Speaker 8>But you also are not allowed to bet with a

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<v Speaker 8>bookie or have anything to do with a bookie because

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 8>it's illegal. And it's so trying to figure out just

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 8>because the money went from someone's bank account doesn't mean

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 8>that that person knows that that money is leaving their

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 8>bank account, right, So who is actually the person sending

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<v Speaker 8>the money?

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<v Speaker 2>That was really important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this.

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<v Speaker 8>Podcast we go to a show Heotani's agent and we say, look,

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 8>we have we've seen proof, We've seen that these wires

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<v Speaker 8>sent money to this illegal book maker. We want to

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<v Speaker 8>talk to show Heyo Tani and they said, maybe we'll see,

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<v Speaker 8>but we'll give you the person who knows what happened,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's Epei me Tahara, who of course is show

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<v Speaker 8>Heyo Tani's interpreter at the time and has often been

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<v Speaker 8>described as show Heyo Tani's best friend.

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<v Speaker 5>That's an incredible right there.

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<v Speaker 3>So in your investigation to this and again the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>for thirty podcast the Betrayal of Sho Otani, how long

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<v Speaker 3>did it take Otani to understand what was going on?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's what we really get into in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of people know the headline that

0:29:55.240 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 8>the interpreter was accused by Otani's lawyer for stealing from

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<v Speaker 8>show Hey, and then the interpreter later says, yes, I'm guilty,

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<v Speaker 8>I did it and goes to prison for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a lot of strangeness leading up to

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<v Speaker 2>all of that.

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<v Speaker 8>As I said, we went to show he Atani's people

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 8>and he said, we want an explanation for what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>They give me an interview with Epai me Tahara in

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<v Speaker 2>episode two.

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<v Speaker 8>For the first time you can actually hear the interview

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 8>that I do with Epay, and the original interview was

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<v Speaker 8>about ninety minutes long. We don't make you listen to

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<v Speaker 8>all ninety minutes of it, but we let you listen

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<v Speaker 8>to the vast majority of it. You know, the stuff

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 8>with the like nitty gritty detail. You don't need to

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 8>listen all that, but you hear the good stuff. You

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 8>hear him tell me his version of the story. And

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<v Speaker 8>then sixteen hours later, I get back on the phone

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 8>with him and he recants almost all of it. He

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 8>tells me that he lied to me, and he lied

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 8>to show Hey, And so that's very strange. I've had

0:30:58.080 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people lie to me in my career,

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 8>but I haven't ever had anything like what happened in

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<v Speaker 8>the twenty four hours leading.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to and after that interview with Epay.

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<v Speaker 6>Tisha Caleb here and I just want to say love

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 6>the podcast and am still still getting through it. And

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you talked about episode two because to me,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 6>that's the most bone chilling part to me, your conversation

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 6>with Epay. When you were talking to him, he kind

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 6>of talked about how bad he felt and the.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Remorse he felt.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, as a reporter, how do you balance that between

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 6>like feeling maybe some sympathy at that time in the

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 6>timeline of the story with trying to get the details

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<v Speaker 6>down and trying to do a job.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I say this to everybody, everybody's got a story,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 8>and I'm willing to listen to them. I want to

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 8>hear what they went through. At the same time, with Epay,

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 8>I had been tipped off by a source that Epay

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<v Speaker 8>was prepared to say that he was the one gambling

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 8>and that it was all his fault. And that's what

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 8>essentially happens is is he says I'm the gambler, and

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 8>he does. He expressed a tremendous remorse. And there's a

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 8>moment in an episode two where he tells me he

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 8>hasn't told anyone in his family how much trouble he's

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 8>in because he knows he's in trouble.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>He knows it's bad.

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<v Speaker 8>He does not admit to me in that interview how

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 8>much money he really owed to the bookie. But I

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 8>had been tipped off that it was at least four

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 8>and a half million dollars had been sent from sho

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 8>Aotani's bank account, but it was probably more at least

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 8>sixteen million dollars, And so when I say to him,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 8>is it at least four point five? He says, I

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 8>think so. And then I say, could it be more

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 8>than that? He says, I don't think so. We're talking about.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Millions of dollars. He isn't sure.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's an example in the interview where I'm very skeptical.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm wondering if he is in fact lying to me,

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<v Speaker 8>And there's multiple instances of that. And then, of course

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 8>in episode five, which just came out yesterday, and people

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 8>can listen to the Feds lay out their.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Case of what they found when they got into Epay's.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 8>Phone and the Bookie's phone, and they compared all the

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 8>records that they collected when they did raids on the

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 8>Booky's house, and they rated Epay's car, and they went

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 8>through all this evidence. And there are multiple places where

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 8>Epay's lying to me in that interview that the Feds

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 8>later said, Nope, guess what it was?

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Sixteen million dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>For instance, Wow Tisha Thompson ESPN investigative report of the

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 3>thirty for thirty podcast, The betrayal of Show hey Otani

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>is high level interest and Tisha joins us here on

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I never really knew this.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Epay and Otani know one another before he became

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 3>his interpreter? How did all that that introduction, I guess

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>of sorts go down initially?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm really glad you asked about that, because while

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 8>we were all focusing on oh my gosh, all this money,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 8>how much money?

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Who stole what?

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 8>One of the big questions that kind of went unanswered

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 8>for me until we got a chance to do the

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 8>thirty for thirty podcast is who is Epay?

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Who is this man?

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 8>And we spend a lot of most of episode three

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 8>really digging into what we do and don't know about

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 8>Epay Mitsahara, because we do discover that they meet in Japan.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 8>He Epay is hired by the Knee Pon Hand Fighters,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 8>which is a Japanese baseball team to be an interpreter

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 8>for American baseball players who are playing in Japan, and

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 8>Shohi Otani. When he shows up to play for the

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 8>Knee Pon Hand Fighters, his locker is right next to

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 8>the American players, and that's where Epay and Shohy get

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 8>to know each other. And in episode three we interview

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 8>an American player who really got to know Epay because

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 8>Epay was his interpreter.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Before he becomes sho He's interpret Wow, that is that's

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 3>some deeply rooted stuff right there. Now, What was the

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 3>most interesting aspects of the entirety of your podcast and

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the investigation you did?

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 5>The reporter you did itself right here?

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to say the interview I did with

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>you Pay is unlike any interview I've ever done in

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>my career.

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 8>And having the opportunity and the time and the space

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 8>to let the fans hear the entire interview, that's pretty unusual.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 8>We don't normally you have the time to let people

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 8>sit there and listen to the whole interview. But this

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 8>interview warrants it, right, I think having that chance for

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 8>fans to hear that. But also it's very rare for

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 8>the FEDS, and when I say the FEDS, I mean

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 8>the IRS and the other investigators in the US Attorney's

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 8>Office to ever talk about an investigation.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>They do not talk about many of their investigations.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 8>The IRS special agent that we have in episode five

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 8>has never done an interview before in a twenty year

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 8>career of investigating tax crimes. But he lays out he's

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 8>the guy that went through all the text messages between

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 8>Epay and show. Hey, he's the guy that did the

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 8>raid on the book He's house, He's the guy that's

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 8>found all these baseball cards in Epay's car, And you're like, well,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 8>why do I care about baseball cards? They end up

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 8>becoming an important part of the story.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 6>Tricia Last Tisha, Oh my gosh, I did it again.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, sorry about it?

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 5>The last one from me. I'm messing up here.

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<v Speaker 6>In episode four, it's all about Matt Boyer, the bookie,

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 6>and with him and under you kind of get a

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 6>glimpse into the ugly underbelly of the gambling world. Just

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 6>what did you take from spending time with him, and

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 6>just how kind of in my opinion gross, I will

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 6>say that, but kind of what did you think of

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 6>just the whole gambling industry and bookie industry and the

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 6>intimidation factor that they used and they talked about in

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 6>that portion of the podcast.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I keep talking about how unusual it is to

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 8>get people to talk. It's very unusual to get a

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 8>bookie to tell you how he does it and In

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 8>episode four, Matt Boyer not only explains how he hooked

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 8>Epay as a client and how he essentially kept Epay

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.439
<v Speaker 8>on the line, you know, getting him to bet more

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 8>and more and more and getting him to continue to

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 8>pay this massive debt.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Epay ran up a forty million dollar debt with this bookie,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>so there were a lot of questions about that.

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 8>But he also really gets into detail about how he

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 8>hooks all kinds of clients, not just Epay, but how

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 8>he goes on golf courses and he plays in poker

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 8>games and it feels very friendly, and it feels like

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 8>it's just, you know, a couple of bets between some guys,

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, playing some golf, drinking some beers. But it's

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 8>all in pursuit of getting you so in debt that

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 8>the only way you think you can get out of

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 8>debt from this guy simply playing a game of golf

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 8>is to sign up for his book. And how he

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 8>is perpetually threading that needle from keeping his clients from

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 8>going bankrupt so that he continue to make as much

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 8>money as he can.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Very rare to get that.

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 8>Frank and like Insider's perspective on the guys that you're

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 8>essentially betting against anyone who likes the sports bet really

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 8>should listen to what he's thinking about and how he's

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 8>betting against you, essentially when he's taking your money.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Man, that is it's a lesson that can be learned

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 3>across the board, right there, tissue.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's any question.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it's a remarkable interview. He's very forthright in it,

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 8>and I do a lot of I mean I've interviewed

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 8>him now many times over the last two years. But

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 8>he was about to go to prison. He was convicted

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 8>for bookmaking, and so he was like, what do I

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<v Speaker 8>got to lose?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you how I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>One of these days we'll probably watch a feature film

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 5>regarding that. Maybe no A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>People care about show.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, I mean it's hard to explain how sameous he is.

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<v Speaker 8>And he's not just this great baseball player, but he's

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<v Speaker 8>an international superstar. I mean, he makes one hundred and

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 8>twenty five million dollars a year just in endorsements. That's

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 8>on top of the money the Dodgers are paying him.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 8>That's on top of his business and his investments. I mean,

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 8>he is a real international superstar, Tisha, this was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you jumping on here today, and again I

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 3>want to remind folks the thirty for thirty podcast, The

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Betrayal of Shohei Otani.

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<v Speaker 5>It is available wherever you get podcast.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 3>It is I guess that I'd probably wrongly say here episodic,

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>so there are different episodes and I'm from Southern Indiana.

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<v Speaker 5>Here episodic and it is awesome.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.800
<v Speaker 3>A tremendous listen, and thank you so much for the

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 3>time today, And a shout out to Caleb who felt

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 3>compelled to put you on the show because of his

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 3>interest in the podcast in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 8>Southern Indiana is the hometown of my godfather. It's one

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 8>of my favorite places. Oh oh Dyannapolis is such a

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 8>fun town, so thank.

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>You for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's the godfather from Tisha?

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 8>Way down south, tiny little farm.

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>There's not even a name for his town.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 5>It's but you know what's what's it near?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And I love them to death.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 5>Do you know what town it's near?

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 8>It literally the border like it's boss as you can

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 8>get in Indiana.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna say Posey County right there. The Godfather.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to the Godfather right there. I don't know,

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, Tisha, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 3>joining us.

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys. Have a great weekend.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Tisha Thompson right there of ESPN Investigative Reporter.

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<v Speaker 5>That was good. I had no idea. Yeah, it was awesome.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I know. I thought like, I'm getting into this and

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, because I just gave that speel the

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 3>start of the show about how dumb I am, and

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I go, Wow, this is really going to back it up.

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 5>This is good. This is about ready to back up

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>my lack of intelligence.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 6>That's why you listen to that.

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 5>It's very well done, very good story. Welcome.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, speaking of that, not only am I not the

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 3>brightest bulb in the pack, but evidently I have led

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 3>our guy groupie down the path to missing his first

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 3>field goal. Last night Colts camp. That was a night

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.280
<v Speaker 3>practice that had some good things.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, camps have opened and the actual games are going

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to start at the end of the month. So we're

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>almost there, jamb.

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 5>I love the fact that we're almost there.

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>And then coming off of what was an absolute incredible

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 3>season around here last year. You talk about things that

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 3>we never thought would occur or happen. Are you winning

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>a national title in football would be chief among those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So your thoughts on the Hoosiers trying to bounce back

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<v Speaker 3>after that national championship of a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, I didn't realize Indiana had that

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>many alumni that they could take over stadiums in the playoffs,

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>especially going into Miami and having the crowd as pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 3>So never say a thing like it, Phil, And I'll

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 3>never see if they go back to back, we won't

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 3>see anything like that again.

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 5>It was an incredible, surreal moment to attend a game

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 5>like that.

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>It was just amazing. And you know, when I look

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>at Indiana this year, I see a team it's once

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>again a legitimate national title contender. And you know, you're

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>bringing a quarterback in Josh Hooper. He's got nearly ten

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards passing in his career. I think he's going

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 1>to fit up well with Kurt Signetti. You know, I'll

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>go back to my first conversation with coach Signetti back

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>when he was at James Madison. They were just coming

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in from FCS to FBS. They had lost a second

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>team All American quarterback. There was Conference Player of the Year.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>They had like seven passes from the previous year back

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>on the roster, and I asked coaches, said, hey, I'll

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>probably struggle over a quarterback this year. He said, Phil

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>had an All conference quarterback every year I've been a

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>head coach. We'll have one this year and guess what

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they did. And he's produced one every year. And Hooper,

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he told me, was in the same ship Mendoza was

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>in the spring. So I look for a big year

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>out of Hoover. All the positions are loaded now. They

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>had in a couple of defensive linemen in Kellen Wyatt

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and Stephan Daily that I didn't expect to be there.

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>This will loaded Indiana team. I've got it favored in

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>every single game with the exception of Ohio State October seventeenth,

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and I've got that one pick them. So if you're

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>asking me if coach Signetti can get back and win

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>now the national title, I think the chances are there.

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm very bullish in Indiana this year.

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>So Phil Steele the college Football Preview and we're getting

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>previewed right now via the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline.

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious your thoughts on this, because you mentioned the

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>fan base and then obviously in this NIL era there's

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>tremendous resources, but there's also the process that you just

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>brought up, and that is the process of selection for

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>your roster. And really, either in Bloomington or wherever he's been,

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 3>it seems like the Kurt Signetti has been a master

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 3>of roster selections and this seems like maybe another year

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 5>What makes him so special in that category of phill.

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Just the overall talent evaluation that this guy has. I mean,

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>as a coach, I've talked to other coaches, and we

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>don't generally talk about other coaches. When I talked to

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty three of the one hundred and

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight coaches this year, going over to the rosters

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>with them, and the average about now are a call.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>We're just trying to worry about their roster. But occasionally

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a coach will, you know, step out of the box

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>for a minute and say, well, you know, coach Signetti's

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the best at evaluating talent. And I think it's pretty

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>much a consensus among folks that this guy analyzes, evaluates,

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and just a tremendous eye.

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 3>For talent, and the other thing is coaching staff consistency.

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 3>And you look at the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator.

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 3>That consistency is a big deal to Phil.

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh Absolutely look at Oregon this year, brand new offensive coordinator,

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>brand new defense coordinator. Ohio State's got a brand new

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator. I think having the same guys on the

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:01.399
<v Speaker 1>staff is huge.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 3>That's Phil Steele College Football Preview. Kind enough to join us.

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 3>So you talk about Indiana, the Big Ten, Ohio State

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>as well, new coaches at Michigan and Happy Valley in

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>East Lansing. Let's start with a Big Ten ride here

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 3>in some of your thoughts Middle America, and then I

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 3>guess on the left coast in a second as well.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 5>Within the Big Ten.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think when you look at the Big Ten,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you said in the middle. So we'll start with Ohio State,

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>probably the most explosive offense in the country. They got

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Julian sand Back who is a Heisman finalist one thousand

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>year at Rushier and Bo Jackson best receiving corn College

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 1>football like they have every year, led by Jeremiah Smith

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and the offensive line. I rated them slightly above average

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>last year. This year I rate them the number two

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>offensive line in the country, so they are loaded there defensively,

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>top notch D line, and I know they lost the

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>number two and a number six draft pick off the

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>D line, but last year they lost two number ones

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and number two and a number five off the D line,

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 1>so actually in better shape. Linebacking is big question mark.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>They lose two of the top eleven picks in the

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>draft this year, and they also lose it that top

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>notch corner who's in the top eleven picks, But it's

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>an Ohio State team clearly capable of contending for it.

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned two new head coaches, and I think both

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.959
<v Speaker 1>coach Winningham of Michigan and coach Campbell of Penn State

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>step into really good situations for Michigan. Kyle Willingham is

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy that runs is always the top notch offensive line,

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>the top notch defense, top notch special teams, and he's

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>got that here at Michigan. The offensive line I rate

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>number eleven in the country, the defense overall, I rate

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>number sixteen in the country, and he's got a good

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and Bryce Underwood, an offensive coordinator in Jason Beck

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that gets the most out of the talent on hands,

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>so they're going to be dangerous this year. They do

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>host Indiana to be a slight dog there and have

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to play Oregon and Ohio State on the road. There'll

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>be an underdog in those three games, will pull one

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.280
<v Speaker 1>upset and they're a playoff contender. And then Penn State

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>with Matt Campbell, brings over twenty five players with him

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>from Iowa State, including his longtime quarterback in Rock Obeck,

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the entire receiving corps, his top running back in Carson Hanson.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And then the schedule really nice for Penn State. No Indiana,

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>no Oregon, and no Ohio State on the schedule. They

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>do have to play Michigan and Washington on the road,

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and they get USC at home. But I think Penn

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>State's another team from the Midwest, is a potential contender

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>for the Big Ten playoff spot. We are getting previewed

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for college football with the Phil Steele kind enough to

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>join us right now, so I'm sure Crimson Tide fans

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>would probably dispute this. But is Lincoln Riley on the

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>hottest seat in college football this season as a head coach.

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>He's on the hot seat, but I think he gets

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>off at this year and here's why. When I talked

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to coach Riley going over the roster with him, he

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 1>feels this is the best defense he has had since

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>he's been to USC. Brings in a defensive coordinator in

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Gary Patterson, who one of the best defensive minds in

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the game. I rate their offensive line number five in

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the country. They've got Jaydon Mayava back at quarterback. Last year,

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the running back corp was banged up Waymon Jordan went

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>down the injury. They less their number two. They're number three.

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll walk on King Miller rush for nearly a thousand yards. Well,

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>King Miller's back, Wayman Jordan's back. They had in a

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of vhds. This a loaded USC team both offense

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and defense. And the biggest games of the year Oregon

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and Ohio State, they get them both at home. And

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind last year they were seven to zero

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 1>at home. So if they take care of business upset

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>one of those two teams at home, they've got a

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>shot of making the playoff. And that's really what we

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>keep Lincoln Riley off the hot seat, getting USC back

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to the playoff. And keep in mind last year when

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>they traveled the face Oregon at the end of the year.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Had they won that game, they would have made the playoff.

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>They just were playing in the autstin Stadium. Now getting

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Oregon at home, I think that's going to be huge.

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Would you give Dante Moore the nod for the best

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 3>quarterback in the Big Ten?

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 5>Or is that Julian saying going in I'm going to go.

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>With Dante Moore for the fact he would have been

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the second pick in the NFL Draft this year had

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>he gone into the draft. You take a look at

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's got all the everything you want from

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. He's got the experience as well. And remember

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>last year his receiving core Evan Stewart missed most of

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the year to Corey and Moore miss half the year

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with injury. Those guys are both back. They've got McClellan back,

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the best tight ends in the country and

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Jamari Johnson and a top notch offensive for line in

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>front of him, which are rate number eight. So I

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>think dot Taey Moore is going to have a big year. Now,

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 1>they do have to play Ohio State on the road.

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>They also play USC on the road, and that's going

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to be tricky, and they also have Illinois, but I

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>think when you look at Oregon, they could very well

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>become the fourth different Big Ten team in four years

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 1>to win a national title.

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Phil, what do you like Washington? And then what do

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 3>you think about one of the old standbys, certainly in

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 3>the Big Ten that is Kirk Farrence and Iowa City

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 3>with the hawk Gys this.

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Season, Yeah, Jed Fish did not step into a great

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 1>situation his first year, had a completely rebuilt roster somehow

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>got him to a Bowl game even though they were

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>coming off a national championship. It wasn't high on them,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.240
<v Speaker 1>but last year got them the nine wins. Demand Williams

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>is back and I'm not going to worry about what

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>happened in the offseason. He's got the team completely behind him.

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:13.839
<v Speaker 1>That's all water under the bridge right now. They've got

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and the defense. I think when you

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.879
<v Speaker 1>look at Washington with after Week ten this year, they're

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 1>in the mix for a playoff spot. But their final

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 1>two games they host Indiana and travel to Oregon. I

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>think that knocks them out of the playoff spot, but

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll be a contender during the year. And with Iowa,

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I just have so much admiration for coach Farence and

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator Phil Parker. I mean, they lose a lot

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>off the defensive side of the ball, but you know,

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Phil Parker, I haven't playing one of the best defenses

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>in the country. Offensively, they lose their quarterback. And here's

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>showing my respect level for coach Fernce the special teams.

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 1>They lose their kick returner, punt returner, punter, kicker, and

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, they lose the special teams. Coach

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I still rank them a top ten special teams and

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll develop it somehow, some way, somehow. And Iowa last

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>year was within four plays of actually being unbeaten. Their

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>four losses last year were all by seven by less

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>than seven points. So I think he'll have them being

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the solid team once again this year.

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And in Kurt Signetti, it's interesting to note that one

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 3>of the toughest accomplishments he felt a year ago on

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 3>the way to the national title was that game in

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Iowa City that the Hoosiers, if you remember the regular season,

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 3>had to survive.

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 5>That was a year ago.

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>It's Phil Steele with us right now, despite the new

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 3>ad and a foot in the mouth situation. During the

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 3>introductory press conference yesterday at West Lafayette. I think Barry

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.879
<v Speaker 3>Odom has done and said all the right things going

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 3>into year number two now in West Lafayette. What's on

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 3>the horizon for this rebuilt Boilermaker team that hopefully, in

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 3>the minds of the Boilermaker fans there takes it up

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 3>a notch.

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they didn't add as many transfers as last year,

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and didn't add as many transfers after spring as last year.

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>In fact, without the second spring port a win, probably

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>more of a team atmosphere. In fact, I gotta tell

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 1>you JMV. When I talked to the coaches this year,

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 1>they would all say, Phil, how you doing. I was like, Oh,

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. There's no second spring portal window. I

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>have to rewrite one hundred and thirty eight teams all

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 1>in the month of May. But each coach told me

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>they felt more like a team this spring because the

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 1>team that they took into the spring, they knew where

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.879
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be taken into the season. They could

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>coach them harder. They could list the guy third string

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and then he's not going to transfer. The players could

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>bond together knowing their buddy was going to leave after

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>spring practice, and the players didn't have to be about

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>worry about being replaced after spring practice with the second

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>portal window. So I think we're going to see a

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>better brand of football around and I think produced one

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 1>of those teams to be affected by that because last

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>year they brought in so many players post spring it

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was tough to get that team together. But the schedule's brutal.

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>They played the ninth toughest schedule in the country. It's

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be tough to win a lot of games

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>this year. I don't see him getting too a bowl game,

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 1>but I do think they'll be more competitive. And I

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like Ryan Brown at the quarterback spot. He's a guy

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that I think, you know last year he came in

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 1>after spring practice was over, transferred back in and tried

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to learn the offense. I think fare better this year

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in his second year in the offense.

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 3>That is Phil Steele College Football Preview. He's getting this

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 3>updated here via the Eddy Moore Automatic Group Potline. You've

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 3>talked about a lot of really good quarterbacks across the

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>nation so far. What are your thoughts on CJ. Carr

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.800
<v Speaker 3>and the fighting Irish of Notre Dame going into this season?

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm rather high on this group. In fact, I

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>picked him number one in the country. So you know,

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>when you look at CJ. Carry, he was the star

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Manning Passing Academy. He's the Heisman front runner

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>right now and did well in his first year as

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a starter. Had a twenty four to six ratio last year,

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and now he's a veteran quarterback. And there's a lot

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to like about Notre Dame. First of all, I'm on

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the Joe Moore Award Committee, so I value offensive line play.

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at their offensive line with Craig

0:53:55.760 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Jagasaw Napa Lambert all NFL caliber offensive linement, I rate

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>them the number one offensive line in the country. You

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>look at the receiving corps, Jordan Faison's back, Greathhouse missed

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>most of last year with injury. He's back, and they

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of Ohio state transfers and Milond Graham

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.919
<v Speaker 1>and Quincy Porter. I think that's a dynamic receiving corps

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.240
<v Speaker 1>this year. And I know they lose Love and Price,

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but I like the running backs they have, and with

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>this offense, you're going to see some running backs emerge. Defensively.

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Last year, they held opponents to ninety five yards per

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 1>game below their average, and they have nine starters back

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my number five d line, number one linebackers, number one DBS.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I rate them the best defense in the country. Special

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>teams have got number four in the country. And then

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>factor in the schedule, I rate it the number sixty

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>six schedule. The two toughest games are at BYU and

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.320
<v Speaker 1>home against Miami. Other than that, I've got him a

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>two touchdown favorite in every single game. Their model this

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>year is leave no doubt, and I think the Irish

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>will leave no doubt. I think they dominate the regular season.

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Now the key is getting by that bye week. Only

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>one coach has been able to manage the bye week situation,

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, having three four weeks off while your opponent

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just played last week. That was coach Signetti. Can Marcus

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Freeman overcome that same obstacle?

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 3>So Phil Steele with us? All right, continue down the

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 3>quarterback road here. You mentioned arch Manning, arch Manning and

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Austin with the Texas Longhorns.

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Your thoughts on this.

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.479
<v Speaker 1>You know last year didn't have a great supporting cast,

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>only a one returning starter on the offensive line. His

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>top running back had five hundred and ninety seven yards.

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.799
<v Speaker 1>This year, they've got a veteran offensive line now rank

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 1>into the top twenty. You look at the receiving corps,

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>not only have Brian Wingo and them at Mooseley back,

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>but they had in Cam Cameron from Auburn, one of

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the more underutilized wide receivers in the country and one

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of the best out there. You look at the running

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>back corps, they had in two thousand yard rushers Hollywood's

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Mothers from Menci State and Relike Brown from Arizona State.

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Last year, arch Manning got better as the season went on.

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought in the Bowl and even late in the

0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>year he was playing great football, much better the start

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of the year. I look for that to continue. So

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>with the better supporting cast, I think it'll be one

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of the top quarterbacks in the country. Then defensively it's

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a top ten defense. I've got Colin Simmons back at

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>De Hero Canoe inside, and then how about adding Rashine Biles,

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>an All American mindbacker from pitt This is a very

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>talented Texas team. Now they do play the toughest schedule

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>in the country, not only nine SEC games, but also

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, but I think they're capable of getting to

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the SEC Title game and perhaps winning it. I think

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>they're a legitimate national title contender.

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 3>We saw the Hurricanes lose the national title game back

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>in January. They are loaded up once again and Fletcher

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 3>and Tony Malachi Tony is one of my favorites across

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 3>the college football landscape. As far as excitement is concerned.

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about the Hurricanes first navigating the season,

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 3>possibly getting back to the playoffs again, then making another

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:50.879
<v Speaker 3>run as they did a year ago.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I live in Cleveland and we're looking for

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback next year, and there's I can't remember a

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterback class like the one we're having now. You got

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to figure the Heisman winners a quarterback, right, But if not,

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it might just be Malachi Tony. Because this guy not

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>only is a dangerous receiver, he's a dangerous runner. He

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was the fourth leading rusher last year. He threw seven

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>passes last year. He's a dangerous punt returner averaged thirteen

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>yards per punp return and went surprised at me if

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.439
<v Speaker 1>they get him involved in the kick returns as well.

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So there's a dark horse Heisman possibility for you. Now

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they add in Darien Mensai quarterback who I think can

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>even maybe top Carson beck stats from last year. And

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they also had in Cooper Barcade his top receiver. You

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 1>look at them defensively, yes, they lose Bain and Messador,

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>but they're talented on the defensive side. If you have

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 1>one question mark with Miami, it's the offensive line. They

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>have just one starter back. However, I've been talking to

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Mario Christoball since his day's back at Florida International. This

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 1>guy always has a top notch offensive line. He'll develop one.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami's the most talented team in the ACC. They do

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>have to play Notre Dame on the road. I've got

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>him a slight underdog there, but I've got him favored

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all the other games. And once they get to the playoff,

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they've got that playoff experience now. And heck, they gave

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame a heck of a game or not our

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>name Indiana heck of a game last year in the

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>title game.

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Phil, I'm curious here regarding the SEC. We'll get

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 3>back to that for a moment.

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Two.

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 3>The expectations for Lane Kiffin and Baton Rouge or the

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 3>half twos in Tusco looser for Kalin de Boar this season,

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 3>what's of the highest priorities in those two situations.

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the hype is going to be

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on Lane Kiffin and LSU. They might be close to

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the top ten when the season begins. But the thing

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 1>that concerns me is the massive transfer portal turnover. They've

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>had sixty plus transfers come in. You know, last year

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech had the number one portal class, but that

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>portal class was topped on top of my number five

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>most experienced team in the country. Lane Kiffin's got the

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 1>number one portal class on top of the number ninety

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>three most experienced team in the country, and they have

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a brutal schedule. I think they may not be the

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>national title contender a lot are calling for. Meanwhile, Alabama's

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>way under the radar. You look at the fact that

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>last year they got blown out by Georgie, blown out

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>by Indiana, couldn't run the football in the postseason, and

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>lose Ty Simpson. Nobody likes them. They're number six in

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the SEC media poll at the start of the year. However,

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Kellen de Boor's in year three, He's got talent throughout.

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I like both Keelon Russell and Austin Mack. I think

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>whoever wins the job could be a Heisman contender at

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. They will get a run game.

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>They've got Daniel Hill, EJ. Croll, Kevin Riley, ak Dear.

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 1>The emphasis was on it in the spring. Ryan Coleman

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Williams heading off the year last year with eleven drops.

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 1>He's got a chip on his shoulder. He'll return the

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>defense solid. They're bigger, bigger upront on the D line

0:59:35.360 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and the entire secondary returns. And when I look at

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>their schedule this year, they got them favorite in nine

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>games and three toss up games. The toss up games

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>are home against Georgia, at Tennessee at LSU. I think

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:49.440
<v Speaker 1>those all in the winnable category. I think Alabama's going

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<v Speaker 1>to surprise a lot of folks this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil Steels on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline College

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<v Speaker 3>Football Preview. We'll talk about what is an essential piece

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<v Speaker 3>getting set for the college football season in just a second.

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<v Speaker 5>Mike Elko, I think is a talented coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He did win eleven straight with Texas anim a year ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I think most noted.

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<v Speaker 5>We remember the two that they lost in a row

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<v Speaker 5>down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>What type of team will the Aggies have, especially those

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<v Speaker 3>in return and Mike Elko once again coming up this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Very talented. Now they got to get Marcel Red to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more consistent for starters, but he

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<v Speaker 1>can be a dangerous quarterback. They've got Mario Krabbecker receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>They had in Isaiah Horton from Alabama. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest question mark with A and M probably goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the offensive line, just one starter back there. When

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to coach Elko his first year, he said

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line was middle of the road to the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year he said it was at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC, and it was. They were nearly a Jill

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<v Speaker 1>Moore Award finalist. This year is back towards the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the road with the potential to get up there

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<v Speaker 1>if the offensive line comes around. I think they're a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate playoff contender. And I'm going to agree with the GMV.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Mike Elko is one heck of a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach always gets the most out of the talent

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<v Speaker 1>on hand.

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<v Speaker 5>It does see exactly like that too.

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<v Speaker 3>All right before we pop up the magazine or I

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say in this case where we can go online

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<v Speaker 3>to find all of your material. I got to ask

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<v Speaker 3>you Heisman Trophy race this season. You mentioned the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're a lot, but there are some skill position players.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about Malakai Tony, but Jeremiah Smith of Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>State is absolutely stand alone I think in that category.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you expect this race to end come December?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? At this point it is a pure tossup because

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<v Speaker 1>you could say arch Manning, Dante more CJ Carr, Trendent Chambliss,

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Sayan, Jeremiah Smith, Darien Mensa, Josh Hoover of Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we talked about Malachay Tony. I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot at you. Any of those other ones

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<v Speaker 1>could win it. I'm going to say, here's a long shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Gunner Stockton at Georgia twenty to one odds right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's best in big games sixteen and two versus

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<v Speaker 1>ranked teams solid and fourth down south in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got the schedule to potentially be close to

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated at the end of the year. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go with the long shot Gunnerstock at twenty to one,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you know the other ones, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>better chance of winning it. Right now, the preseason favorite

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<v Speaker 1>is CJ. Carve Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 5>You are the absolute best. Phil.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell everybody how they can get their hands on your

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<v Speaker 3>material because it is a must have in preparation for

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<v Speaker 3>the college football season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate that it's The magazine is Phil Steele's

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<v Speaker 1>College Football Preview, three hundred seventy six pages, two full

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<v Speaker 1>pages on all one hundred and thirty eight teams. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Steele dot com. And check out my daily blog and

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<v Speaker 1>great information. Just go to Phil Steel dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And for example, you can also find Phil at Phil

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<v Speaker 3>Steele zero four to two. I believe right on x

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<v Speaker 3>social media is correct.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there you go. Hey, I don't know what my

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<v Speaker 5>year would be without your pal.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, I can't thank you enough, and you do all

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<v Speaker 3>the work so the rest of us can just sit

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<v Speaker 3>back and enjoy.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate I always enjoy our conversations each and every summer.

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<v Speaker 5>You got a pal.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we'll do it again and enjoy the season until

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<v Speaker 3>we do talk again, Phil. Thank you sounds great, Phil Steel.

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<v Speaker 3>That is awesome college football preview. I think he said

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<v Speaker 3>books a million and Barnes and Noble. I would prefer

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<v Speaker 3>the hard copy. I got to get my hands, my fingers,

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<v Speaker 3>my fingers. I gotta get my fingers on something that's

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<v Speaker 3>right there.

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<v Speaker 5>How you get up to date? Phil Steel? The Andy

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