1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Lie from Baal, Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: All I did was take a couple of days off 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: to go visit my mother and check in on her. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: And in that time we learned. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: That Russia Gate was a complete and total cover up 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton. We have the release, the declassification of 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: the Duram Annex. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: We know this true. We know that the Soros team 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: was involved. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: We know that Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Komy McCabe our liars 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: and frauds, including Hillary Clinton. My god, these people aren't 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: even Americans, not the way you and I would think 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: of Americans. They don't value the rule of law. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: My gosh. 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: No, we learned that the Democrats are holding up Trump 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: nominees to all sorts of positions. They don't allow any 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: voice votes to take place, and Republicans are kind of 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: rolling over on it. Then Schumer said, well, we'll allow 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the votes if you release a billion dollars in funding 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: for these projects we want to, which Trump said, hey, 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: why don't you go to hell, Chuck Schumer, and hey, Republicans, 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: go tell your districts what these people are doing. Have 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: a great recess and it would have been a great 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: recess for Trump. But Thune, the Senate majority leader from 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: South Dakota, for some reason, is going to keep the 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Senate open in a procedural way which will keep the 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: President from having recess appointments so he could get all 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: these people confirmed. 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry appointed. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: They wouldn't be confirmed until the end of the term 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: was up and they needed it again, right. 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: Because that's the way it works. 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: In a recess appointment, you create a de facto I'm 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: using a term there, a term. 36 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: That's the way I would say it. 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: This is just some of the stuff that's been going 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: on in the last ninety six hours. Tony Katz, Tony 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Katz today, good to be with you. Holy crap. This 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: is a lot of stuff. And this is nothing because 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: the job's numbers came out and they all suck to 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Holy hell? 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say that on the air? Hold on? 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Can I get a ruling on that? I think I can. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: I think I. 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Can, but maybe maybe I shouldn't. I'll take that under 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: advisement for the future. Jobs numbers stunk, stunk. So what 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: did Trump do? Trump fired the woman in charge of 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Her name Erica mcintarfer. Erica mcintarfer. 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: That is not an easy name to say. 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it rolls for you, it doesn't roll for me easily. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't go trippingly off the tongue. Now, this is 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the one story where I think the reaction has been 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: completely illogical. You see the jobs numbers in the month 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: of July, seventy three thousand in the month of July, 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: which was below the expectation. 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: But the expectation wasn't great. I think the expectation was. 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Like all one hundred and twenty three or something like that. 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: It really wasn't I'm sorry, one hundred thousand. It was 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand was the estimate. It came in below estimates. 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: You're like, wow, that's not great. We just got a 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: report of three percent GDP and now we've got this. Well, 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: then becomes the revisions lower that June and May were 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: revised lower in terms of jobs, down two hundred and 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand jobs from the previously announced levels. So 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Trump fires this woman, don goodbye see you. This is ridiculous, 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: This is nonsense. Nobody can trust these numbers. It's all 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: just a bunch of garbage. Kevin Hasset, who is the 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: chief of the White House Economic Council, is defending the firing. 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: Okay, for the same kinds of problem. But just to 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: be very clear, do you have to see administration have 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: any evidence that it was rigged? 74 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: As the President said, will you be presenting that to 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: the American public? 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: Well, the evidence is that there have been a bunch 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: of revisions that could hear. I mean, the revisions are 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 3: hard of it's for example, there was an eight hundred 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: thousand and eighteen eight hundred and eighteen thousand revision making 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: the Joe Biden job record a lot worse that came 81 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: out after he withdrew from the presidential campaign. There've been 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: a bunch of patterns that can make people wonder. And 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: I think the most important thing for people to know 84 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: is that it's the president's highest priority that the data 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: be trusted. 86 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Now, the data needs to be trusted, and this is 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: where I think Kevin Hasset is. 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Making the right argument. 89 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: First things first, though, when you talk about rigged, can 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: we please stop utilizing the word rigged? 91 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: Eventually it's like one of those things that loses all meaning, 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: like racist. No one even knows what it means anymore. 93 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: MSNBC is so busy calling everybody a racist all the time, 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: We've all just become innured to it. It's like, yeah, great, whatever, 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: all right, see at the bottom of the ratings. 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, not us. 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: You'll see CNN at the bottom of the ratings. Bye Felicia, 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: And we don't care. We don't care. 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Whatever. 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Woke Karen liberal freak calls us racist, blah blah blah. 101 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: It means absolutely nothing, zero less than zero. 102 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Anna Navarro, an actual bigot, could say anything she. 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: Wants on CNN and people are like, oh, hum, it's 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: it's just a term that rigged is just can become 105 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: one of those things. Oh yeah, sure, everything's raked. Great, 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, no everybody's a racist. So good and you 107 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: just move on with your day. The conversation here is 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: about whether or not we actually trust the numbers. I 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: know some people saw this from Trump and are like, 110 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: can you believe he's firing this woman? 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: I mean, my god, I was like, the numbers he 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: fires her. 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: There's something called the gell Man effect, and I saw 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a first learned about this through Michael Crichton. 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I believe it was where you read something in a newspaper. 116 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: It's the Gellman g e LLL next word man m 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: A n N amnesia effect. 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: I believe it's referred to us. 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: You read something in the newspaper, you read a story, 120 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and then it start a news story, and you're like, 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: that's a lie. No part of that is true, absolutely positively, 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: no part of that is true whatsoever. I know this 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: subject and everything they just wrote, everything they just told 124 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: about this story is a complete and total lie. I 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: can't believe they published this. This is all falsehoods, This 126 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: is all nonsense. What a bunch of frauds this is, 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: and total lie from beginning to end. Then you read 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the next article in the paper and you go, ooh, 129 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: that's very interesting. Why is it that we would look 130 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: at one story and say that's not true and somehow 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: think that this publication, the publication in question, has got 132 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: the next story act. That's very, very very weird. Well, 133 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: that amnesia, the gel Man effect is how I feel 134 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: about the numbers we saw in the Biden administration, month 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: after month after month after month after month after month, 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: that the numbers were revised down every single month. Why 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: they keep telling us these numbers and they get revised 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: down every month, and they only go one way. They 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: never got revised up, They always got revised down, which 140 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: would make one think that maybe the numbers weren't trustworthy. 141 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I did not know it was the same people in 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: charge as then during the Biden administration. That's at least 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: the way I read the story. Why would I still 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: trust these numbers, any of them? Why would anyone? I 145 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: am not saying that there is something duplicitous taking place 146 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: with these people. It could easily be that the methodology 147 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: we use doesn't work. It could be that we get 148 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: in different data points now from different places, and the 149 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: math that we use, the method that we use, doesn't 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: actually take everything into account. So we should change the method. 151 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the answer. Maybe we have to change the person. 152 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the answer. Maybe by changing the person, we 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: change the method. Maybe that is the answer. But isn't 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: anybody curious as to wondering why it is? Why is 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: it that we have these these revisions, always down, always down, 156 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: always down. Maybe how we first calculate the number doesn't work. 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: So I don't think this is crazy. 158 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I want to know why it is that it's taken 159 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: till now to actually go about focusing on it. You mean, 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: if the numbers had come out the way Trump would 161 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: have liked, it had just been like what what if 162 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: that was also inaccurate the numbers themselves. Haven't we seen 163 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: this over the past years. We should have been addressing 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: this on January twentieth. So I don't think that Trump 165 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: firing this woman is the end of days at all. 166 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, even on the political right, 167 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: have gotten this story all wrong. So we know about 168 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Russia RuSHA, Russia being a lie, We've got this conversation 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: about the economy. I've talked about the nominees, and then 170 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: of course there are the propagandists in support of Hamas. 171 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Let me start with, of course the New York Times, 172 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: which can't be trusted at all, which ran a front 173 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: page a photo of a starving child and then had 174 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: to come out and admit that that child was not 175 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: starving because of anything having to do with the war. 176 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: That child had physical ailments that led to it being 177 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: and malnutrition malnourished. 178 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: I should really say. 179 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: That's what happened. We know this for sure. We know 180 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: this for a fact. As a matter of fact, we 181 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: know that the New York Times editors discussed that utilizing 182 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: this photo, which by the way, they crop out the 183 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: perfectly healthy brother. Oh yeah, you trust the New York 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: Times Again the gel Man effect in full display. 185 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: You know their liars. 186 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: Why would you look at any other story they have 187 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: and think it's telling the truth. Now, it's not that 188 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: they don't have some good reporters there, of course, there 189 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: are two sides of the Bell curve. But as a newspaper, 190 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: trust this publisher, trust these editors. 191 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 2: Oh come on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 192 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: no no. 193 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: The editors discussed how using a photo of a child 194 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: with a serious pre existent condition would undermine the credibility 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of their reporting about famine Gaza, but they did it anyway. 196 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: The story from Semaphore. 197 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: The Times attempts to be quite careful when it comes 198 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: to the words and images it uses in relation to 199 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Israel's war in Gaza, and as the story of deepening 200 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: hunger in the territory rippled through the global media, the 201 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Times thought it was. 202 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: Being careful too. 203 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Last Thursday, The Times was preparing to run images of 204 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: a young child in Gaza with cerebral palsy who was 205 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: suffering from lack of nourishment, alongside it's July twenty fourth 206 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: story that cited doctors in Gaza finding quote, an increased 207 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: number of their patients are suffering and dying from starvation. 208 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: So they knew exactly what this photo was, and they 209 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: were talking about, Hey. 210 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: Are we sure we want to run that. 211 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: Photo next to this article because it's going to make 212 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: everyone think it's one and the same. The topmost editors 213 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: at the Times Quote wanted to err on the side 214 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: of caution after viewing the gutting photo. According to communications 215 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: viewed by Somemophore. They worried that it might inadvertently call 216 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: to question the paper's reporting, which said that many of 217 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: the children suffering from hunger did not have pre existing 218 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: health issues. 219 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: They asked the question. 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Did the managing editor, do we want to use a 221 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: photo that will be the subject of debate when there 222 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: is presumably no shortage of images of children who were 223 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: not malnourished before the warren currently are That was a 224 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: question asked by Mark Lacy, managing editor. The executive editor 225 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: said the story isn't framed around people with special needs, 226 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: and the lead art really should not do that either. Instead, 227 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: they did exactly what they said. They shouldn't do. They 228 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: said it it was going to lead to a problem, 229 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: They said it was going to make people question their reporting, 230 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: and they did it anyway because they are propagandists for Hamas. 231 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: End of sentence. 232 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: If you wear a Kafia, you're a propagandist for Hamas. 233 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: If you are the French, UK, Canadian or Portuguese governments, 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: you are propagandists for Hamas. They have all decided they're 235 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: going to recognize a state of Palestine. 236 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: Oh okay. If you vacation these. 237 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: Places, you're nuts, And I think we got to get 238 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: all BDS on them, Boycott investments, sanction of France, the UK, 239 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Canada and of course Portugal. No, no, no, we don't 240 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: vacation there, we don't invest there. 241 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: Nothing. 242 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Screw you. You support terrorists, there's no place for you. 243 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think of Israel. 244 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Support terrorists. 245 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you think Israel the terrorists, 246 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that's just weird. But hey, if you want 247 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: these two places, just fight it out. I'm down with it, 248 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: no rules, whoever survives wins, let's go to work. I'm 249 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: just curious to see what's going to happen. But if 250 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: you wear a kafa. You support terrorists, I have no 251 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: place for you. 252 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: None. 253 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: In a choice which in Israel Hamas, I choose Israel, 254 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: and I hope the people who choose Hamas lose, I 255 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: want them to lose huge. While we certainly know that 256 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: the food not getting to anybody in Gaza is the 257 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: fault of Hamas, I mean, we even have the United 258 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Nations on our side proving that we have the actual 259 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: data proving that we know that Hamas is starving Israeli 260 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: hostages who they've now kept for two years. And Israelis 261 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: are saying enough of this and this war now. I 262 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: haven't figured out whether the Israelis are saying stop fighting 263 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: or they're saying, go kill every last member of Hamas. 264 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: I am more under the opinion of the latter. And 265 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: you have to accept. 266 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: The fact that it has to happen. 267 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Nat Yahoo is saying that if the Cabinet is going 268 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: to issue the idea of new directives to achieve their 269 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: war goals, this cannot go on. But these photos, these images, 270 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: these videos of these Israeli hostages being starved, living in tunnels, 271 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: and the New York Times doesn't cover that. The New 272 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: York Times didn't cover that The Washington Post put it 273 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: on their cover, not the Times. Remember, the Washington Post 274 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: should be the paper of record. The New York Times 275 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: is a propaganda rag that isn't worth your time or attention. 276 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: Just the facts, Boo boo, Just the facts. 277 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: So these are four things that happened just over the 278 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: last few days, and I just wanted to cover some 279 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: of it, and I've gotten into more of it throughout 280 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: the show. I haven't even gotten into Sidney Sweeney, who, 281 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't care that she's registered as 282 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: a Republican. It means nothing to me. I never asked 283 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: her politics. I just I just wanted to wear jeans. 284 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: That's all any of us could ever really want. This 285 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today. I keep bringing this up, and 286 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's just me, Except there's no way 287 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: it's just me. 288 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: Who notices? Are we having a ton of recalls lately 289 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: or what? 290 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, Tony Kats. Michael Waima got really excited there, 291 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. See that's much better. That was more sexy, Hey, 292 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Actually. 293 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: That was a little more. 294 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Hank Kingsley from Larry Sanders Show, I should just stick 295 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: with my voice. Tony Kats much better, Tony Kats today, 296 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: good to be with you. Kia has got a recall 297 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: of over three hundred thousand vehicles, so something called the 298 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: K five, which. 299 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: Is a sedan. I don't know. I don't think I 300 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: even know what a K five looks like. 301 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: And then there is the Tell You Ride, and I 302 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: know what the Teller Ride looks like because those things 303 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: are crazy popular. 304 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: I think they did a nice job with that car. 305 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I think it looks I think it looks good like 306 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: when I first came out, I was like, Okay, it's 307 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: a little it's a little. 308 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: More attractive than the average SUV. 309 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Except my problem with SUVs is that they all look 310 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: exactly the same. Because of the insanity of cafe standards, 311 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: you know, being able to make sure our car has 312 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: hit certain levels of miles per gallon. They all look alike. 313 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: Every single one of them looks alike. Even the large 314 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: scale ones look alike. It's why I think the Ford 315 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Bronco and the Bronco Sport became so popular, because they 316 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: just look different. They look a little more rugged, they 317 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: look a little more cool. Boxy is fine now, full disclosure. 318 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: I do a. 319 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I have a deal, a marketing deal and advertising deal 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: with a local Ford dealership in Indianapolis. I own the 321 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Bronco Sport, but I can also say that we bought 322 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos Sport because it didn't look like everything else. 323 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: My wife didn't want it. She hated the way these 324 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: SUVs look. She wanted something that was different. And the 325 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: car has been excellent, all right. I just I always 326 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: like full disclosure. But this is about the recalls. There 327 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: always seems to be a recall of everything on this 328 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: The recall is one hundred thousand of the K five 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: models twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five, over two 330 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Teller rides twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five. 331 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: On the Teller Ride, it's a faulty door belt molding. 332 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. 333 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: On the K five, it's a window trim detachment issue. Wait, 334 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: this isn't about how the car runs. No, this is 335 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: about some extra pieces on the car that can fall 336 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: off the car and create a road hazard for other vehicles, 337 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: increasing the. 338 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: Risk of a crash. That's what this recall is. 339 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: If I were to sum it up better, it's that 340 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: someone didn't use enough glue. 341 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: Somewhere, we're going. 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: To find that, in an effort to cut costs, they 343 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: use plastic this or plastic that, or they were using 344 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: the same people who were using dish soap instead of 345 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: the right kind of oil to put in doors on 346 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: airplanes at Boeing, some kind of nonsense. 347 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: This is going to be you can't keep the molding on. Okay, 348 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: so not as big of a deal as other recalls. 349 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: But still there seems to be a recall going on 350 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: all the time for everything. 351 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: And I can't be the only one who notices. It's 352 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: not me right, this is happening. I think, I think 353 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: as it is. I'm not used. I'm Tony Kats. Keep 354 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: it right here. This is Tony Kats today. 355 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: So you say you're in favor big picture of nonpartisan 356 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: map drawing. Does that mean you or how would you 357 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: feel then about California taking action if Texas does to 358 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 4: redraw its maps, or your home state of Illinois trying 359 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: to read your maps if Texas takes action. 360 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: Look, you can't have unilateral disarmament. You have to fight 361 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: fire with fire, otherwise the Republicans will rig the election. 362 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: They see the poem that's take place. The reason they're 363 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 5: doing this is they don't like the way things look 364 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: for the mid term elections, so to maintain power, they're 365 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 5: trying to draw maps in the middle of the census, 366 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 5: which was never anticipated for political reasons. 367 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: So how do you respond to that way? You have 368 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: to fight fire with fire. 369 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: There is an alternative, and that should be our first effort. 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: That's what I'm offering my Republican colleagues past this bill. 371 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 5: I've served many terms in Congress in the minority, even 372 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: though far more Americans voted for a Democrat for Congress 373 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: than Republicans. We see the results here, the mess that 374 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: we're in. It shouldn't be this on either side. But 375 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: they're forcing the issue now, and we have to react. 376 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: On every single subject and in every single place. A 377 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Democrat will tell you that a Republican is trying to 378 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: destroy democracy. None of it is true, but they can't 379 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: help themselves. This is the only argument they've got. Tony Katz, 380 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. Find everything 381 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: at tonykats dot com. Redistricting in Texas, you would think 382 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: they were rewriting the Constitution to ensure that everybody eats 383 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: three pounds of brisket at least once every two weeks. 384 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: Now that said, I would favor that constitutional amendment because 385 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: I think it would make people a lot happier. But 386 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. I'm not responsible for people's happiness. 387 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: As long as I get to eat brisket every two weeks, 388 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: everything's going to be fine. The redistricting conversation in Texas 389 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: is not anything new. It's not, as I see it, 390 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: anything particularly interesting, except, of course, you have Democrats who 391 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: have decided to run away. 392 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: This is happening right now. 393 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: You have got Texas Democrats who boarded I believe it 394 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: was a private plane and then flew themselves to Illinois 395 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: because they do not want to be in the state 396 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: to be there for the vote that would change the 397 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: congressional maps. This is actual audio of Democrats of an 398 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: elected office in Texas. Now, this isn't the first time 399 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: this has happened. I believe Wisconsin Democrats did this. They 400 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: ran away to Illinois. Indiana democrats did this in twenty 401 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: eleven because of some union rules, and they remove themselves 402 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: to Illinois. It is pathetic, it is sad, it is weak, 403 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: It is childlike should be laughed at for the absolute 404 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: children that they are, and they are absolutely children. Now 405 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: refusing to attend the legislative session is a civil violation. 406 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how Paxton, the attorney general or 407 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: the governor Greg Abbott could put somebody in jail as 408 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: a matter of just the law. I don't know how 409 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: that works. Can someone be held in contempt? Well, that 410 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: is not something I have an answer to. Certainly interesting 411 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: as a concept, but leave all that to the side. 412 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: This is what Republicans are talking about when these Democrats 413 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: do indeed return. Let's get into the larger scale subject. 414 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: They left because they are not interested in seeing a 415 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: redrawing of the maps, but maps get redrawn. Their argument 416 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: is this is happening mid decade. This is not when 417 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be doing this type of map drawing. 418 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: This should have already been done and complete. I think 419 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: the question before us is twofold number one, how often 420 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: does something like this happen? Exactly? How many times in 421 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: the past? And secondly, what would be the rules about this? 422 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: What are the real issues involved here? The only issue 423 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: that seems to be involved for Democrats is that they 424 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: are not going to have what they want. Jerry Mandering 425 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: is what we call redistricting in a lot of places. 426 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: Happens all the time, and I don't think any of 427 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: us like it. I don't think any of us actually 428 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: want it. This idea that districts are drawn in these 429 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: very very odd shapes to allow certain political parties to 430 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: have more of an advantageous result. I oppose jerry mandering 431 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: because jerry mandering seems to be a cabal between the 432 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: parties to say, okay, you get this, and we get this, 433 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: and nobody steps on anybody else's turf. It's it's like 434 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a gangland detante. And that's not my interest. My interest 435 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: is here's the district, and it doesn't change. This is 436 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: always the district. Here are the boundaries of the district. 437 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Here's from this pool. You vote for your representation and 438 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: that's it, and you can move districts. That's far different 439 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: than a district. 440 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: Moving on you. It's a very Yakov Smirnoff kind of line. 441 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: And communists Russia districts moves on you. That was It's 442 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: a terrible impression. I mean a scale of one. It's awful. 443 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: That was awful. 444 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: But I get points for a Yakov Smirnoff reference. So 445 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: therefore it's it's it all balances out. And for those 446 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: of you who don't know Yakov Smirnoff, you might wanna 447 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: you might want to do, I don't know, get to 448 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: Google or wherever it is you do your searching the 449 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: district changes. That's what jerry mandering does. And it's gross 450 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: that these members of the Texas House are going to 451 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Illinois's hilarious. 452 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: Look at the Illinois map. It looks like two octopi humping. 453 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: Also, can I get a little something for the plural 454 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: of octopus? 455 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: No? 456 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 6: No? 457 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh, sure, hump big is the you guys, you it's ridiculous. 458 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: It's tentacles over here, and it's this weird look over there. 459 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: It's nuts. Illinois is the. 460 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: State that rechange, that changed the districts, that rewrote the 461 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: districts to push out Adam Kinsinger after he served on 462 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: the J six committee. 463 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: Here he is serving doing the thing. 464 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: Attacking Trump, and Illinois Democrats said. 465 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: Screw that Republican. Oh uh, no, nobody deserved it more. 466 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: No one deserves it more. 467 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: We see this everywhere, and I think that the vast 468 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: majority of the majority of US would say that stuff 469 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: stinks to high heaven. Of course it does. We don't disagree. 470 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: But the argument here is whether or not the party 471 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: in charge can engage this. Nobody is questioning. 472 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: The legality of it. 473 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: That's the part that's interesting that you would call it rare. 474 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Feel free knock yourself out. But you know what, no 475 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: one is saying, and I haven't seen this anywhere. No 476 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: one is saying that there is a legality issue. 477 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: None. They're saying that it's political. 478 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: Well, it might very well be political. So, by the way, 479 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: is the response. Now, I have said this before many 480 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: times about the political left. 481 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: When the political left. 482 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: Does something, you know, it's fine. When you do something, 483 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: it's a moral the same way it can be said 484 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: that when you do something, it must be pointed out when. 485 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: They do something, Why are you looking at us? Why 486 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: are you always focused on us? My gotcha? Just about 487 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: the culture wars. 488 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: The left does this all the time, which brings us 489 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: to two very worthwhile clips, the first being from Spartacus himself, 490 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: Corey Booker. 491 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: I'm sick of the jerry mandering. But if Donald Trump 492 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: is going to push to jerry mander Texas, he's going 493 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 6: to break the rules in order to win. He can't 494 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 6: win by the rules they are right now, so he 495 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: thinks you should break the rules for Democrats to sit 496 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 6: back and just say, Okay, we're going to play by 497 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 6: the queen's rules. No, I'm telling you right now, we 498 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: need to win in the mid term. We need to 499 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 6: stop him from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election. 500 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: And if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, 501 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 6: we need to look at our ways of doing that 502 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 6: right now. 503 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: First, I didn't know you were still allowed to talk 504 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: about steal an election. 505 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: I thought that was for Boten. Clearly I was mistaken. 506 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: You could talk about stealing elections now, Absolutely fine, no problem, 507 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: no issue, totally. Okay. Number two, we have to Jerrymander. No, 508 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: they're not having the argument of we shouldn't be doing this. 509 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: They're having the argument of, well, if he's gonna do it, 510 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. The point is they're already doing it. 511 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: There's no question as to whether or not they're already 512 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: doing it. As a matter of fact, you've got Gavin Newsom, 513 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: the ridiculous nonsense governor of California, who's applauding the escape 514 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: of these Democrats to Illinois escape, I mean the cowardly 515 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: running away, and he put out a tweet, this is 516 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: what democracy looks like. Oh holy hell, I don't like 517 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: what's happening, so I'm gonna run away. 518 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: Is not so much democracy. 519 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Newsom has said, well, if Texas redraws their map, will 520 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: withdraw the maps in California to get rid of all 521 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: Republican sees. These people aren't opposed to Jerry Manderin. They're 522 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: only upset that they didn't get to it first, which 523 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: is weird because they've already been doing it. They're angry 524 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: with Republicans for doing the thing that they do. When 525 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: they do it, it's all fine and they love the country. 526 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: When you do it, you are a destructive force that 527 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: hates America when they when Republicans act in a way 528 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: it is immoral, and when Democrats do the same exact thing. 529 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: The answer is, why are you looking at us? My gosh, 530 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be talking to us. This is so weird 531 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: that you're talking to us. Why are you staring at us? 532 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Why are you always so obsessed with us? My gosh, 533 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: you're in your culture wars, always, always, always, always, it's 534 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: this way and if you want more proof that they 535 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: are down with this redistricting nonsense, this jerrymandering, that they 536 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: love it. This is the chair right here of the 537 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: Texas Democrats on CNN. 538 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 7: Because when we look at the maps and we look 539 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 7: at the states that are, you know, kind of prone 540 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: to jerrymandering, Illinois is one of them. It's ranked among 541 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 7: the worst by people who study these things. And so 542 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 7: you have lots of state houses around the country that 543 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 7: are going to be looking at what's happening in Texas 544 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 7: and saying, hey, maybe we can do that, given how 545 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 7: few are controlled by Democrats. What's your concern here. 546 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 8: Well, Democrats would be the first ones to line up 547 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 8: to try to get federally recognized nonpartisan redistricting committees, but 548 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 8: Republicans will never be on board trying to get that accomplished. 549 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 8: We see lots of Democratic states where they've done that 550 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 8: and Republican states where they haven't, and all it's done 551 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 8: is crippled Democrats from their ability to be competitive. I 552 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 8: hope that blue states across the country see this is 553 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 8: a signal flame and start carving up their own seats 554 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 8: because the Democrats have to stop trying to be the 555 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 8: only adults in the room. When Republicans are not willing 556 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 8: to play fair, and Republicans are not willing to make 557 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 8: sure that everyone gets has a seat at the table 558 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 8: and is able to be heard, then we need to 559 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 8: stand up and. 560 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Fight back with Gusto. 561 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 8: And I hope that blue states around the country are 562 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 8: taking notice and that they're going to step forward and 563 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 8: start carving up their states as well. 564 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: First things first, I'm pretty sure it's Gusto fighting back. 565 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 8: With Gusto able to be heard, then we need to 566 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 8: stand up and fight back with Gusto. 567 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, your radio works. Fine. 568 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: That's just embarrassing Kendall Scudder, chairman of Texas Democratic Party. 569 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: He's saying carve it up. He's saying do it. 570 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: And he may call what Republicans are doing illegal, but 571 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: there is no conversation about it being illegal. He just 572 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: doesn't like the fact that Democrats aren't the one's doing it. 573 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: If Democrats do it, it's because it's fair and equitable. 574 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: If Republicans do it, it's evil and they're trying to 575 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: destroy the country. 576 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: You have never understood the. 577 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Arguments as clearly as what they are presenting right here, 578 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: and understand that I'm with you. This is a different 579 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: conversation whether or not we like the jerry mandering to 580 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: begin with. I think we could all be like, yeah, 581 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: we think it's ridiculous, but the idea that it's new 582 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: is not new. And if we were having the honest 583 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: conversation that what Illinois does and what Texas might be 584 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: doing is ridiculous, that would be one thing that's not 585 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: the conversation. The conversation is how dare Republicans do what 586 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: it is that we do? And now we have to 587 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: pretend that it's the most outrageous thing in the world 588 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: when it happens clearly, and we have to threaten to 589 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: do what they're doing if they don't stop doing what 590 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: we already do. 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