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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 3: Hello bought my name is Nigel, Jerry Lopez, Indy Spanglish

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Speaker 3: on the socials in for Jason Hammer. Today is a

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Speaker 3: big day for w IBC, celebrating eighty seven years on

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Speaker 3: the air today. And I got the email from one

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Speaker 3: mister Dennis Sullivan earlier or a Sullivan. This is a

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Speaker 3: terrible way to start, started Denny Smith.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Because because Denny I texted Denny, I go, hey, you

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Speaker 3: want to come on and talk about w IBC's eighty

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Speaker 3: seventh birthday today because you know a lot. You sent

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Speaker 3: a great email out but but my my iPhone changed

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Speaker 3: you from Denny Dennis. Do I have to call you? Dennis?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't know my mom? No?

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Speaker 2: The only one calls me Dennis was my mom and

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Speaker 2: she's ninety five and you're not even close.

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, that's did I you? Did I call you?

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Speaker 1: Dennis Sullivan was more than for him.

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Speaker 2: Actually, just just a question asking for a friend.

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Speaker 1: Are you drinking currently?

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Speaker 3: I've got a water bottle in my hand, but no

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I am. I am sober at this time,

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Speaker 3: which makes it, which makes it worse.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, probably so.

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Speaker 2: October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eight, WIBC officially went on the

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Speaker 2: air for the first time. And the only one of

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Speaker 2: the folks at WIBC that I'm aware of that was

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Speaker 2: alive at the time was Dick Crumb And which is

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Speaker 2: sort of funny, but it was broadcasting from the Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: Athletic Club, the ninth floor. And it wasn't even ten seventy.

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Speaker 2: We were always am but it was the radio station

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Speaker 2: called sign was ten fifty.

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Speaker 1: It was fifty. Wait, where's the where was the Athletic Club?

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Speaker 2: The Athletic Club is about three twenty North.

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Speaker 1: Meridian roughly Okay, so it's north.

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Speaker 2: Commis it's condos now, buddy, It used to be the

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Speaker 2: Athletic Club, which was a gathering place for you know,

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Speaker 2: central Indiana. And realize our Tarket audience.

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Speaker 1: This is what's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Tarket audience for WIBC has always been the forty to

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Speaker 2: fifty year old, forty five year old was it? Well?

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Speaker 1: Back then?

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Speaker 2: You know, the Athletic Club was the center of everything.

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Speaker 2: The building I think was constructed in the nineteen twenties,

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Speaker 2: but it was a social and athletic hub for Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't a traditional radio station per se in

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Speaker 3: some building. This was in a this was in some

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Speaker 2: That's right, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very very new.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the call letters WIBC that actually stood for

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Speaker 2: Indiana broad Broadcasting Company. And so no, not very many

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Speaker 2: people knew it. But then we changed over. And but

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Club was a social and civil or a

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Speaker 2: civic centerpiece in Indianapolis. And so the station is the

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Speaker 2: beginning blended music, news and community program in the early days.

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Speaker 2: And by the time we got to the fifties, that's

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Speaker 2: when you know Jim Shelton's pick a Pocket, and it

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Speaker 1: In fact, tomorrow, let's.

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Speaker 3: What's would you just say, Jim Shelton, pick a Pocket?

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Speaker 2: Okay, your grandfather would know who this was.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jim Shelton.

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Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, say hi to my

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Speaker 3: grandma Phyllis. I'm sure she's listening right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, Phillis, she's the best. Their business was always

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Speaker 2: right across the street from the plumbing shop. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: you come from a great family. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: what happened to you. So anyway, so Shelton would walk

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Speaker 2: But there was something about all the pockets on a

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Speaker 1: Terry Stacey's been here since the seventies.

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Speaker 2: She finished forty years last week. Wow, Wow, she's Hall

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Speaker 2: I was a paper boy in the nineteen sixties and

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Speaker 2: I always listened to WIRI, which was fourteen thirty because

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Speaker 1: But I can go along the water Nearing.

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Speaker 2: But that's when Donald.

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Speaker 3: By the way, forty years if Terry, that was like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I'm sorry nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: But here's Here's the thing about Terry is that she's

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame broadcaster, one of two that I'm

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Speaker 2: aware of from WIBC. And what a class lady, Just

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Speaker 2: what a class lady.

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Speaker 1: Who's the other one? But it was a pitch.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was Fred Heckman, But I'm not okay.

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Speaker 1: Terry today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's over at John Griffiths Sayonara party, Josh

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Speaker 1: Time sales three years. Where was the party?

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Speaker 1: Is it ale Ale Emporium? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But some of the some of the programs that they

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Speaker 1: Stumped the Chunk.

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Speaker 2: Well, that really was a fan favorite quiz Style eighty

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Speaker 3: Did they ever have did they ever have lud nude

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Speaker 3: dude in the news back in the sixties and so.

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Speaker 2: No, they had Lou Palmer, but they didn't have loud

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Speaker 2: dude news, but you know they did have This is funny.

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Speaker 2: There was a quirky calling segment about unusual listener stories

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Speaker 2: that came about in the nineteen nineties, and it was

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Speaker 2: called Confessions Months, and people would get on there and

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Speaker 2: confess to all this ordering us and of course all.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm not an older web but I

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Speaker 1: So we have that it's called let wait a minute.

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Speaker 3: So when so it so it was fifty, it was

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Speaker 3: forty one to when they fired me on radio now

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Speaker 3: ninety three point one. In two thousand and seven seven,

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Speaker 3: they transferred they transferred the signal, so they put ten

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Speaker 3: seventy WIBC on ninety three point one, which is a

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Speaker 3: signal ironically that I'm working on now.

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Speaker 1: I got rid of the whole site, the whole signal, right.

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Speaker 1: It was known as the Wrath of the Buzzard w NAP. Oh,

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Speaker 3: It was the buzzard before it was Radio Now. And

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Speaker 3: I worked at Radio Now played pop music on this

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Speaker 1: Two I was Peenie Bopper. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But December twenty sixth, two thousand and seven, we went

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Speaker 2: there ever since because the big problem was people still

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Speaker 2: We had to dial it back down to five thousand

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Speaker 3: Eighty seven years on the air. Today WIBC days Great

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Speaker 3: Denny Smith is here now our esteem. The program director

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Speaker 3: David would let us know another piece of radio history.

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Speaker 3: On this date, WIBC also could coincided probably arguably the

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Speaker 3: most famous radio broadcast of all time. The Orson Wells

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Speaker 3: were of the World, which scared the crap out of America.

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Speaker 2: You know, I reached out to me today, Lee to

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Speaker 2: Noon who used to be the news director when David

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Speaker 2: King Wilson was on there. Lee, let me know that

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Speaker 2: It was about a Mars invasion. Remember that Orson well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but people thought it was real.

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Speaker 1: I think an air on w they thought it was real.

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Speaker 3: Now they said, like I'm looking at stats right now,

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Speaker 3: oh my lord, I'd rather go out this way than

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Speaker 3: the aliens.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing about WIBC.

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Speaker 2: It's legendary in every way it is, and yet all

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Speaker 2: of us who are on there right now saying how

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Speaker 2: in the hell did I get get hired here?

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Speaker 1: I'm a knucklehead.

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Speaker 2: I listened to you and Hammer, and I keep asking myself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's a legendary station.

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Speaker 1: What am I doing here? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Hammer and I look at ourselves every day and say,

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Speaker 3: how did we end up here? We love our job,

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Speaker 3: love our audience. I just never thought when I was

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Speaker 3: twenty one years old playing Mandatory Metallic at Exporter three

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Speaker 3: at ten o'clock at night, that I'd be breaking down

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Speaker 3: the U this summit between Jiji Ping and Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: in Asia twenty years.

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Speaker 1: You do pretty good at that.

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Speaker 2: The best thing that's happened to your show, it's not

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Speaker 2: Jerry Lopez, No, no, no, no, it is in Cubano America.

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Speaker 2: made America. You'll take it. But the best thing that

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Speaker 2: happened to you was Alison.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely accept that. I'll accept that. Alison is an awesome person.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Danny. You're checking the mail while you're at anywhere.

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Speaker 1: A great day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do we got to? Where's the Home and

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Speaker 3: Garden show this weekend?

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Speaker 1: What are we are we I think we're in studio.

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Speaker 2: Allison notes that she sends out our homework assignment on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think we're in studio.

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Speaker 2: I think we're in and we'll have a little craft

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Speaker 2: corner and h taking home and garden calls and all

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Speaker 2: the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Denny, thanks for the history lesson. I'm proud to

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Speaker 3: be part of such a legendary radio station and hopefully

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Speaker 3: many more years to come. Here on the eighty seventh

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Speaker 3: birthday of WIBC, Denny, have a good one.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys, you are my favorite show on

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Speaker 2: wib thxs Buddy none thanks Buddy, and with Kiri Lopez

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Speaker 2: buenomgo with Alisignor.

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Speaker 1: Hey, grasses from being into