WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Faith 0:00:03.950 --> 0:00:07.490 Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby. 0:00:07.550 --> 0:00:09.170 This is my friend Matt. 0:00:09.410 --> 0:00:10.990 Posh, come on, Posh. 0:00:11.030 --> 0:00:14.090 This is my friend T-Bone. 0:00:14.330 --> 0:00:15.230 Let's have some fun. 0:00:15.350 --> 0:00:18.690 I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone. 0:00:18.730 --> 0:00:19.290 Do it live. 0:00:33.860 --> 0:00:37.339 Every week seems like good milestones, good progression. I can't 0:00:37.380 --> 0:00:39.960 tell you exactly how close that is, how far that is, 0:00:40.740 --> 0:00:42.690 but I know that he's trending in the right direction, 0:00:43.470 --> 0:00:45.970 getting into some more individual drills where he can start 0:00:46.010 --> 0:00:48.610 to really load and anchor and do all those things. 0:00:48.690 --> 0:00:50.990 But it's got to get to a point where we 0:00:51.010 --> 0:00:54.110 feel really comfortable about sending somebody at him full speed 0:00:54.150 --> 0:00:56.350 and do all that. We're not quite there yet, so 0:00:57.190 --> 0:00:58.430 I can't really tell you specifically. 0:01:00.820 --> 0:01:05.990 That is Dave Canales being asked about Icky. That is 0:01:06.190 --> 0:01:09.149 not a, I don't want to act like it's bad news, 0:01:09.209 --> 0:01:11.970 like he's progressing bone, but the rate at which he 0:01:12.050 --> 0:01:15.590 is progressing, maybe not as fast as we would like 0:01:15.650 --> 0:01:18.330 with the state of the tackle position. Now that Timo 0:01:18.410 --> 0:01:20.990 is out, the way Rasheed Walker has been playing lately, 0:01:21.490 --> 0:01:24.930 but that's it. So it's kind of a non-update and 0:01:25.010 --> 0:01:28.010 it doesn't It doesn't give us any indication, Bone. 0:01:28.209 --> 0:01:30.550 It's not optimistic. I'll say that. 0:01:30.670 --> 0:01:32.640 No, for a guy that we thought, hey, beginning of 0:01:32.660 --> 0:01:34.560 the year, where could he fit in here? 0:01:34.660 --> 0:01:36.310 But now... I don't know. 0:01:36.330 --> 0:01:39.030 I don't really know if I'm counting much on Nicky 0:01:39.069 --> 0:01:41.930 Mack throughout this season. I don't know if the moment 0:01:41.970 --> 0:01:45.530 injury changes anything, but I don't know. I just don't 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.560 know if that's something to really count on, to be honest. Yeah, 0:01:48.580 --> 0:01:50.260 I keep feeling like that, too. I agree with you. 0:01:50.300 --> 0:01:52.960 A couple of things. Also, if he gets anywhere near Walker, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.380 he might get hurt. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:00.500 So a couple of things here, Bone, that I am 0:02:01.540 --> 0:02:04.180 wanting to tell you is coming up. There's some things 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.340 that y'all are asking for here. One is what the bleep. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.030 Multiple fans said, hey, where are the what the bleep stories, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.100 the messed up stories we can make fun of and 0:02:12.150 --> 0:02:16.350 laugh at? It was the Panther talk. The Florida Panther talk. 0:02:16.410 --> 0:02:19.190 That's coming up at 845. We did some shuffling. Buckner 0:02:19.270 --> 0:02:21.829 went into the what the bleep slot. I didn't want 0:02:21.850 --> 0:02:23.790 to go through to 7 o'clock hour without Hornets talk 0:02:23.870 --> 0:02:27.109 after the win and stuff. So anyway, 845 for what 0:02:27.150 --> 0:02:30.370 the bleep coming up. And there is a youth sports 0:02:30.410 --> 0:02:33.290 story that I must what the bleep. It is unbelievable. 0:02:33.310 --> 0:02:36.869 But anyway, also, there's a great chance a well-known Florida man, 0:02:36.910 --> 0:02:40.700 Ric Flair, appears. It's been a minute. It's been a 0:02:40.740 --> 0:02:43.419 minute for Ric Flair. He's in here for two different things. 0:02:44.260 --> 0:02:48.839 Also being asked, Bone, by a few people who have 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.980 sent the link to us and said, are you guys 0:02:51.060 --> 0:02:55.100 going to address this? It is Chris Sims, who was 0:02:55.210 --> 0:02:58.030 upset last week. The Panthers made a video trolling his 0:02:58.110 --> 0:03:01.590 pick of the Eagles over the Panthers. He has responded, 0:03:01.730 --> 0:03:03.810 and all of a sudden he's a lot tougher this week, Bone. 0:03:04.270 --> 0:03:06.690 He is mocking the Panthers. We will play that audio 0:03:06.740 --> 0:03:08.580 coming up here in the next 20 minutes. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.560 That's what I get for saying last week I felt 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.340 a little bit bad about all the spleen jokes. 0:03:13.460 --> 0:03:16.000 It's free gaming. 0:03:16.139 --> 0:03:18.650 Game on! I tried to help bridge the gap here, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.829 but now I know what this is all about. 0:03:21.850 --> 0:03:24.030 So I've got news for you. You will be triggered 0:03:24.190 --> 0:03:26.930 in the next 20 minutes because we will play that 0:03:27.050 --> 0:03:29.709 clip and it will make you mad. The way he 0:03:29.790 --> 0:03:31.630 acted last week and the way he's acting this week, 0:03:31.690 --> 0:03:34.570 it'll make you mad. But let's have the conversation, Bone, 0:03:34.610 --> 0:03:36.170 about coaches and Dan Morgan. 0:03:36.210 --> 0:03:38.450 I've seen a lot of criticism. 0:03:38.530 --> 0:03:41.310 Heck, we've had our criticisms for the coaches over the 0:03:41.380 --> 0:03:42.340 last couple of days. 0:03:42.630 --> 0:03:43.240 The trend. 0:03:43.660 --> 0:03:46.340 I think someone was quoting Smoke Ludwig and said, Canales 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.760 has five 20-point losses in his career. Matt Rule had zero. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.120 Smoke was saying that yesterday. So clearly bring back Matt Rule. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:04:00.060 I think that's the answer. But how much, Boney... is 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.040 your trust in canalis or any of the coaches of 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.470 arrow i'm sure his name will come up or dan 0:04:06.510 --> 0:04:08.810 morgan i've seen some people say hey look at the 0:04:08.850 --> 0:04:12.910 way rashid walker's played or you know um uh you 0:04:12.930 --> 0:04:15.050 know look at dan dan morgan hasn't done anything to 0:04:15.070 --> 0:04:18.370 address the corner spot since the injuries like do you 0:04:18.390 --> 0:04:21.840 have you lost you find yourself questioning any of the 0:04:21.900 --> 0:04:24.719 coaches or dan morgan any more than you did last 0:04:24.820 --> 0:04:25.779 week or or. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.700 No Probably a wee bit more on the coaches more 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.600 so than Dan Morgan. We were just saying a week 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.190 ago how high level the rookie class could be for him. 0:04:35.210 --> 0:04:37.109 We were talking about Will. 0:04:36.910 --> 0:04:41.310 Lee's job against Philadelphia, Wheatley's grades being high. We have 0:04:41.350 --> 0:04:45.890 not seen Brazel or Hecht yet. to judge them, but 0:04:45.910 --> 0:04:48.890 you've got Freeling we think is going to be really productive. 0:04:48.910 --> 0:04:51.600 This could be a really good draft class, and this 0:04:51.650 --> 0:04:56.240 past week doesn't change that for me. Obviously, Walker has 0:04:56.260 --> 0:05:00.160 been a problem, but also he drafted Freeling, who's right 0:05:00.180 --> 0:05:03.500 there to maybe potentially just take right over that spot, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.740 but then, of course, the Tebow thing happened. But I 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.680 don't really put a lot of this right now on 0:05:07.700 --> 0:05:10.810 Dan Morgan. I think that there's definitely some coaching stuff 0:05:10.850 --> 0:05:13.630 going on there, but I put more on that than 0:05:13.650 --> 0:05:14.130 Dan Morgan. 0:05:14.170 --> 0:05:17.390 Yeah, I kind of do as well. It's hard not to. 0:05:17.430 --> 0:05:20.400 And again, I don't want to make the big swing 0:05:20.460 --> 0:05:23.120 from one week to the next, although Brinson Buckner did 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.960 accuse me, Bone. uh, earlier in the show of trying 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.470 to lead the parade one week and lead the funeral. 0:05:30.910 --> 0:05:31.870 You are a busy man. 0:05:32.050 --> 0:05:35.060 I don't want everybody to think funeral max running a 0:05:35.140 --> 0:05:38.040 funeral here. Like I don't want people to feel that way. 0:05:38.100 --> 0:05:42.140 Like I do still believe we're going to win the division. 0:05:42.750 --> 0:05:46.369 With that said, it's hard not to hear that stat 0:05:46.410 --> 0:05:50.790 that Smoke was given yesterday about Canales losing five 20-point games. 0:05:51.190 --> 0:05:53.590 It's hard not to hear the stat from Mike K 0:05:53.930 --> 0:05:58.360 about we have given up 12 200-yard. 0:05:57.380 --> 0:06:00.060 Rushing games, Bone, in the last three years. 0:06:00.620 --> 0:06:04.440 It's hard not to at least question why the heck 0:06:04.940 --> 0:06:07.380 does Dave Canales and the staff at times have us 0:06:07.500 --> 0:06:10.590 so ill-prepared to play football games that we get embarrassed? 0:06:11.130 --> 0:06:13.850 And then the Avero thing, too, is how is the 0:06:13.910 --> 0:06:18.180 run defense still having this level of problems two years 0:06:18.500 --> 0:06:20.900 after the debacle of 2024? 0:06:20.900 --> 0:06:23.770 How can you not at least ask those questions? No, 0:06:23.870 --> 0:06:25.270 it's perfectly fine questions. 0:06:25.310 --> 0:06:25.490 Look. 0:06:26.660 --> 0:06:29.940 There has to be some question somewhere when you get 0:06:30.050 --> 0:06:33.289 beat at home by the margins of victory you have. 0:06:33.350 --> 0:06:35.810 I'm not saying the full Bears game was bad. It 0:06:35.850 --> 0:06:38.450 was a half that got away. But when you give 0:06:38.550 --> 0:06:42.130 up 59 and then 40 plus both games at home, 0:06:42.750 --> 0:06:44.570 we can't sit here and say we have no question 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.500 about anybody. Obviously, there's a lot of questions about why 0:06:48.980 --> 0:06:52.740 when they're bad, they're that bad, right? It feels like 0:06:53.260 --> 0:06:55.539 when they have bad days, man, do they have some 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:56.100 really bad days. 0:06:56.220 --> 0:06:56.480 It is. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.760 And that has to be concerning. You said it earlier, like, again, 0:07:01.779 --> 0:07:06.820 I still believe. although the Timo injury hurts, right? But 0:07:06.860 --> 0:07:09.440 I still believe we're the best in the South. Matter 0:07:09.490 --> 0:07:14.770 of fact, the odds, I was looking at playoffstatus.com, Bone, 0:07:14.810 --> 0:07:16.910 the stat that has all the playoff odds and stuff 0:07:16.950 --> 0:07:19.710 like that. The Panthers still have a 50% chance of 0:07:19.730 --> 0:07:23.790 the playoffs and Atlanta has a 45% chance. So it's 0:07:23.810 --> 0:07:26.730 still a slight edge to the Panthers having a better chance. 0:07:26.750 --> 0:07:29.310 So I still believe that's the case, but it's getting 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:30.130 a little scary. 0:07:30.190 --> 0:07:32.360 I will say that. They play the last game, right? 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.460 Is that true? Oh, are they final game? 0:07:34.540 --> 0:07:37.420 Ooh, doggy. I think that's the last game of the year, right? 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.080 I didn't realize that. Very well. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.980 The way these teams are up and down, up and down, 0:07:41.060 --> 0:07:42.680 up and down. It very well could come down. I'll 0:07:42.940 --> 0:07:44.080 double check, but I think that's what it is. But 0:07:44.140 --> 0:07:47.180 you said it, though. Last year was one thing when 0:07:47.220 --> 0:07:49.620 we got blown out, and then we bounced back after 0:07:49.660 --> 0:07:50.880 the blowouts and won. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.480 That was a step in the growth under Canales. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.060 But we were kind of hoping that the growth would 0:07:58.110 --> 0:08:00.950 include this year, Bone. The growth would include maybe not 0:08:00.990 --> 0:08:03.070 getting humiliated once every three freaking games. 0:08:03.710 --> 0:08:04.989 You know? Yeah. 0:08:05.030 --> 0:08:08.690 Week 18 is Atlanta at Carolina. That could be juicy, dude. 0:08:08.830 --> 0:08:10.730 That could be a Sunday nighter because it might mean 0:08:10.770 --> 0:08:13.170 a lot. Could be real freaking juicy. And I love 0:08:13.190 --> 0:08:14.450 the way we play the Falcons. 0:08:14.490 --> 0:08:15.910 That's good. I don't want to play the Bucs the 0:08:15.950 --> 0:08:16.950 last week. Bucs own us. 0:08:17.500 --> 0:08:20.160 But again, Matt, that's just assuming the NFC South might 0:08:20.180 --> 0:08:22.480 be up and down all year. We'll see what happens. 0:08:22.540 --> 0:08:25.320 I mean, you just got to hunch over there about this. Uh, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.460 let's see here. Um, most people seem to be, um, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.500 Dan Morgan's done a lot of good things. I find 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.720 it hard to nitpick him. Even if the point about 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:38.479 Rasheed Walker is true. Um, uh, it's coaching for me. Uh, 0:08:39.140 --> 0:08:44.360 Mitt is backboney. Uh, Mitt says, uh, Robert Hunt was 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.640 Morgan's biggest miss. Damian Lewis was a nice pickup though. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:52.819 That off season Hunt gave us the one really good year, right? Uh, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.750 And then last year was an injury loss. And this year, 0:08:57.130 --> 0:08:58.550 I don't know if it's coming back from the injury. 0:08:58.570 --> 0:09:00.270 I don't know what it is, but he does not 0:09:00.890 --> 0:09:05.140 appear to be at the same level. And it just, yeah, it's, 0:09:05.300 --> 0:09:08.260 it's Damian Lewis has been such a good pickup. Robert Hunt, 0:09:08.300 --> 0:09:10.949 part of it's injury induced, right? But it does make 0:09:10.990 --> 0:09:13.390 you wonder, will we ever see anything close to the 0:09:13.500 --> 0:09:15.679 first season here in Charlotte version of Robert Hunt? 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:16.559 It sucks. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.339 We're not getting the Robert Hunt they paid for right now. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.460 And Damian Lewis has been constantly banged up this year 0:09:21.500 --> 0:09:24.300 as well. A huge piece to the puzzle. But both 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.850 guys won the injuries and won for kind of the unknown, 0:09:27.890 --> 0:09:28.390 I guess, of. 0:09:28.330 --> 0:09:29.170 Robert Hunt right now. 0:09:30.030 --> 0:09:34.390 Are certainly worries down the stretch. Not the performance of 0:09:34.429 --> 0:09:37.150 Damian Lewis, but the constant injury that he's dealing with. 0:09:37.230 --> 0:09:39.830 Oh, by the way, I undersold that stat that Smoke 0:09:39.850 --> 0:09:43.250 was reading off yesterday. It's five losses by 30 points. 0:09:43.470 --> 0:09:46.750 Damn it! I don't even want to know what the 0:09:46.770 --> 0:09:49.900 20-point loss number is. Now we've got to look that up. So, yeah, 0:09:49.980 --> 0:09:54.880 that's extreme embarrassment, losing by 30. Now he has, this 0:09:54.940 --> 0:09:58.830 dude says, you are reading stats that prove Canales ain't 0:09:58.850 --> 0:10:01.520 the man for the job. But that's why this is 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:06.100 not that's why this is a nuanced conversation, because he 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.540 has certainly on his watch improved this football team in 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.550 so many ways. But that is a disturbing trend that 0:10:14.610 --> 0:10:19.489 ain't going away, man. You know, it's just it's those 0:10:19.530 --> 0:10:22.250 two things kind of like fight each other, right? 0:10:22.730 --> 0:10:25.350 People pointing out that what's wrong with Amit today? He 0:10:25.370 --> 0:10:26.230 made a solid point. 0:10:26.370 --> 0:10:30.050 That was a pretty good one from Amit there, man. 0:10:30.150 --> 0:10:31.990 Amit, just take the rest of the day off, big guy. 0:10:32.210 --> 0:10:34.270 Amit didn't even come after Bryce, man. 0:10:34.330 --> 0:10:34.689 What's going on? 0:10:34.690 --> 0:10:37.770 Is he feeling okay today, though? Thoughts and prayers to Amit. 0:10:37.790 --> 0:10:38.569 We hope he feels better. 0:10:40.710 --> 0:10:43.250 Oh, man. Let's see here. 0:10:43.429 --> 0:10:47.240 A texter named Walls says we need an all trenches 0:10:47.300 --> 0:10:49.179 draft and a good one. 0:10:50.300 --> 0:10:54.960 Was the law so bad we got to talk draft? No, no, please. 0:10:55.020 --> 0:10:57.280 But yes, like Robert Hunt looks like a guy bone 0:10:57.300 --> 0:11:00.030 that you're probably going to move on from in the 0:11:00.090 --> 0:11:02.610 offseason unless he dramatically improves. 0:11:03.770 --> 0:11:04.709 Let's see. Moten. 0:11:04.850 --> 0:11:07.170 I wonder what happens. Like Moten, you would think we 0:11:07.210 --> 0:11:09.670 get rehab, but he's only got one year left. Do 0:11:09.710 --> 0:11:12.920 you need to draft? That's a pretty huge injury for 0:11:12.940 --> 0:11:14.850 a guy his age with his wear and tear on him. 0:11:14.900 --> 0:11:16.920 Do you need to draft an O-tackle in the first 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.080 round again next year? 0:11:18.100 --> 0:11:19.420 Yeah, I'm wondering. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.620 And then D-line, don't we need interior guys on this team? 0:11:22.660 --> 0:11:24.620 I know we drafted Hunter. Aaron Hall looks like a 0:11:24.660 --> 0:11:25.360 good signing. 0:11:25.380 --> 0:11:26.610 We're talking draft now, aren't we? 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.429 He's got to duke me into it, man. Damn, I 0:11:30.450 --> 0:11:32.250 didn't want to talk draft for like. 0:11:32.130 --> 0:11:34.670 Another couple months. How about this? We can talk draft, 0:11:34.710 --> 0:11:35.890 but we can't look at mock drafts. 0:11:36.210 --> 0:11:41.850 Guys, stay away from those, please. 704-5709-610. Did the loss 0:11:41.910 --> 0:11:45.429 shake you to the point where you're questioning coaches, where 0:11:45.450 --> 0:11:49.880 you're questioning Dan Morgan? North Star Race Fan says, I'm 0:11:49.980 --> 0:11:52.500 stoked for the trade deadline with Dan Morgan. 0:11:53.540 --> 0:11:57.760 Do you think he's going to be active? Trade deadline 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:58.920 is in two weeks, I think, Bo? 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.820 I don't think he's going to be active because there's 0:12:01.860 --> 0:12:04.140 a need at corner, but he's got guys coming back 0:12:04.220 --> 0:12:06.939 at corner. He addressed... I'm trying to go through each 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:11.040 position here. He was active in the offseason at linebacker, 0:12:11.059 --> 0:12:11.840 got Okereke. 0:12:12.860 --> 0:12:13.900 I don't see. 0:12:15.630 --> 0:12:17.290 I don't think so. I don't think he's going to 0:12:17.309 --> 0:12:19.210 be that active. I'm just trying to think of where 0:12:19.230 --> 0:12:21.270 he'd be active, and I don't think so. 0:12:21.730 --> 0:12:23.770 I mean, corner, I would have thought if he was 0:12:23.790 --> 0:12:26.710 going to do something, he would have done it right away. 0:12:26.929 --> 0:12:29.150 He wouldn't have waited closer to the guy's comeback. He 0:12:29.170 --> 0:12:31.390 would have done it right away. I know deadlines spur action, 0:12:31.429 --> 0:12:33.870 and teams might not be. I mean, they might want 0:12:33.890 --> 0:12:36.150 to see things play out before they trade their own players. 0:12:36.390 --> 0:12:41.280 I keep coming back to DeForest Buckner. reportedly being a 0:12:41.300 --> 0:12:43.599 guy that could be had if the Colts do a 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.000 fire sale that people expect. Jonathan Taylor is part of that. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.140 Just not for us, but they're going to get rid 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.370 of a lot of people. There's also the other D-tackle, Grover, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.230 as well, that could be on the market. But I 0:12:55.570 --> 0:12:58.550 think we are light at D-tackle, and I can't imagine 0:12:58.670 --> 0:13:01.310 anybody would argue with me after that performance against the 0:13:01.350 --> 0:13:02.069 run the other day. 0:13:02.210 --> 0:13:04.810 No, he's an accomplished guy, too. A leader. 0:13:05.090 --> 0:13:05.470 No, he. 0:13:06.170 --> 0:13:08.319 He'd be something for sure, but I don't know if 0:13:08.340 --> 0:13:11.570 they would do that or not. I don't know. I 0:13:11.590 --> 0:13:13.150 can't see DeForest through the trees right now. 0:13:14.370 --> 0:13:16.770 You're on fire today, Bone. You were on day. 0:13:16.790 --> 0:13:17.010 Fire! 0:13:17.050 --> 0:13:20.329 Some are saying I'm reaching my prime here. You're like 0:13:20.410 --> 0:13:23.410 moose on the offensive glass last night, baby. Just getting 0:13:23.690 --> 0:13:26.829 after it. Regulator says, I like the trade. How am 0:13:26.870 --> 0:13:30.770 I going to wear a collared shirt? That's an interesting effect. 0:13:30.850 --> 0:13:34.150 Regulator says, I like the trade for Nelson in Indy. 0:13:34.530 --> 0:13:38.890 Let him play hunt spot. Yeah, he's another one. Quentin Nelson. 0:13:39.790 --> 0:13:42.740 Real good guard. So the Indy thing's interesting. I would 0:13:42.780 --> 0:13:46.420 definitely hope that Dan Morgan is sniffing around there a 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.559 little bit. No doubt about it. This dude says we 0:13:49.620 --> 0:13:52.040 do need a running back. Chuba can't do it alone. 0:13:52.500 --> 0:13:54.990 I don't think you'd do a Jonathan. That Jonathan Taylor 0:13:55.030 --> 0:13:59.460 deal to me would be for someone that. Literally, like, 0:13:59.900 --> 0:14:01.079 their number one is injured. 0:14:01.100 --> 0:14:02.280 You know what I mean? Like, they don't have a 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.839 number one. Yeah. We have a number one. We would 0:14:04.860 --> 0:14:07.440 need support at running back, I feel like. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.300 If Chuba wasn't healthy, I think, yeah, that would be 0:14:11.330 --> 0:14:14.250 a great addition. By the way, the great Colin Hoggard, Matt, 0:14:14.270 --> 0:14:17.590 just sent us a list all time of Panthers' 20-point losses. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.740 from pro football reference so they have two this year 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.180 they had two last year they had five in canalis's 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:24.820 first season. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.630 Okay so he's nine 20 point losses and five 30 0:14:27.630 --> 0:14:30.190 point losses yeah and that's thank you colin for that 0:14:30.370 --> 0:14:32.570 is we are made that's good stuff there from colin 0:14:32.590 --> 0:14:35.570 colin colin caught us floundering right and i'm not that's 0:14:35.610 --> 0:14:38.320 not a shot at anthony pagnotta i mean okay he 0:14:38.420 --> 0:14:41.200 knew that we we did not have the data at 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.320 the ready and we're probably not going to get it 0:14:43.380 --> 0:14:44.120 anytime soon. 0:14:44.340 --> 0:14:46.760 That's when the stats come in when Colin says, all right, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:47.860 I'll go throw these guys out. 0:14:47.870 --> 0:14:50.130 Colin's like, where's the stats? Look it up right now. 0:14:50.210 --> 0:14:52.750 I have to do it for you. What was I 0:14:52.750 --> 0:14:53.130 going to say? 0:14:54.140 --> 0:14:56.850 But that's the thing. It's like their progress being made 0:14:56.990 --> 0:14:59.910 in some areas. Some weeks they show progress. They show 0:14:59.950 --> 0:15:03.270 progress last year. But how do those things keep happening? 0:15:03.650 --> 0:15:06.790 I think it's time, Bone, to get angry at Chris Simms. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.620 And I don't know if this is a welcome distraction 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.620 from the talk about the team's game on Sunday or 0:15:13.660 --> 0:15:16.760 if this is just going to rage bait a fan 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.360 base that we already are full of rage about. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:20.700 But we can't ignore this. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.609 So last week, Chris Sims picked, and his dad also, 0:15:25.070 --> 0:15:28.790 picked the Panthers to lose to the Eagles. The Panthers 0:15:28.830 --> 0:15:30.730 did something that I have to be honest with you, Bone. 0:15:30.810 --> 0:15:32.650 I feel like a lot of teams do this on 0:15:32.690 --> 0:15:35.830 social media. They'll mock people that picked against them. 0:15:36.290 --> 0:15:38.470 The Bucs did it on Sunday because everyone picked Carolina 0:15:38.510 --> 0:15:39.070 to beat them. 0:15:39.210 --> 0:15:42.090 See, so I don't like Chris Sims felt so targeted. 0:15:42.110 --> 0:15:43.790 I feel like this has done a lot. But the 0:15:43.830 --> 0:15:47.460 Panthers like used clips of his picks and then highlights 0:15:47.500 --> 0:15:49.420 of the game against the Eagles. and had a laugh 0:15:49.460 --> 0:15:52.240 at Chris Sims' expense. Well, Chris Sims and Mike Florio 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.900 couldn't believe the Panthers would stoop to that level to 0:15:54.980 --> 0:15:58.690 make fun of him for his prediction, right? So this week, 0:15:58.710 --> 0:16:01.810 the Panthers lose to Sims' old team, the Buccaneers, by 0:16:01.850 --> 0:16:04.810 the way. And this is what Chris Sims did on 0:16:04.850 --> 0:16:06.230 the PFT podcast. 0:16:07.620 --> 0:16:07.920 43-13. 0:16:09.180 --> 0:16:14.600 Carolina Panthers, what is the world coming to? Carolina Panthers, 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.680 after you're 3-2 and you're in first place in the 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.440 division and you're talking shit on social. 0:16:20.060 --> 0:16:23.900 Media, Carolina Panthers, did you think you had a bye week? 0:16:24.330 --> 0:16:25.760 Where were you yesterday? 0:16:25.780 --> 0:16:28.690 Puffing out their chest like, oh, gosh. 0:16:29.070 --> 0:16:31.450 Pause that for a second. All right. 0:16:32.070 --> 0:16:32.490 We were not. 0:16:33.870 --> 0:16:35.330 We were not prepared. 0:16:35.750 --> 0:16:37.150 I don't think I told you there was a bleep 0:16:37.170 --> 0:16:38.120 needed in there either, Finney. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.680 I didn't even hear him when I pulled it. I 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.780 didn't even hear him say it. That's on me, though. 0:16:43.820 --> 0:16:46.100 It wasn't very easy to hear just right out loud 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.080 when he said it. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.640 And the thing you're hearing here, by the way, which 0:16:50.700 --> 0:16:52.900 is why the cuss word got in there, Florio is 0:16:52.980 --> 0:16:55.880 ticked at the Panthers, too, on behalf of Chris Sims. Like, 0:16:55.990 --> 0:16:58.430 he's annoyed with us, too. All right, can we go 0:16:58.470 --> 0:16:59.290 back to this? 0:17:00.050 --> 0:17:02.330 Are we good now, Finney? I'm scared. Are we good now? 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.260 Should be good. All right. Let's continue. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.100 Let's continue here. Cause at some point, Chris Sims is 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.139 going to get his shots in it without cussing. 0:17:09.180 --> 0:17:12.100 I believe he went into Philadelphia and beat a third 0:17:12.140 --> 0:17:16.370 string quarterback while they were dealing with the most dysfunctional 0:17:16.510 --> 0:17:18.790 situation in football that week. Look at us. 0:17:18.850 --> 0:17:19.570 We're amazing. 0:17:19.850 --> 0:17:21.250 And we had to squeak it out in the fourth 0:17:21.290 --> 0:17:24.350 quarter to do it. I mean, geez, here was he, 0:17:24.390 --> 0:17:26.010 was he, was he, was he cats here? 0:17:27.030 --> 0:17:30.040 I don't think that's the same. I mean, what a 0:17:30.060 --> 0:17:44.090 lay in the hay. Holy crap. Was that embarrassing? 0:17:44.670 --> 0:17:47.460 I mean, the one in five yuckineers come to town 0:17:47.580 --> 0:17:49.919 and just, I mean, you guys laid down. You didn't 0:17:49.940 --> 0:17:51.920 even lay down like some cats. You laid down like 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.970 some damn street dogs. You woozy, woozy, woozy cats. I mean, 0:17:56.010 --> 0:17:57.270 that was embarrassing. 0:17:57.650 --> 0:17:58.910 Holy cow. 0:17:59.340 --> 0:18:02.240 I mean, unreal. That was as big a butt whooping 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.520 as we've seen in any game the whole year. I mean, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.840 the whole year, even when they did something good, they 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.100 found a wide open Darren Waller down the middle of 0:18:11.140 --> 0:18:13.690 the field. They had the extra point block and then 0:18:13.710 --> 0:18:17.650 we had the proverbial four point play. Basically you don't 0:18:17.690 --> 0:18:19.890 ever see that. I mean, it was amazing. It just 0:18:19.930 --> 0:18:23.010 was a great day. Great day. Yo ho yo ho 0:18:23.050 --> 0:18:24.340 the pirates life for me. 0:18:25.180 --> 0:18:26.120 I mean, just beyond annoying. 0:18:26.140 --> 0:18:27.859 I don't know what's worse, the wussy cat or the 0:18:27.900 --> 0:18:32.020 pirates on there. Also, I'm confused because he was so 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.419 confused last week on why do they mock him and 0:18:35.460 --> 0:18:38.959 he's upset. What did he do? How is that going 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.159 to help now? Now it's on, baby. They're going to 0:18:42.220 --> 0:18:47.380 mock you constantly. Now it's on like your guy... Donkey Kong. 0:18:47.460 --> 0:18:49.119 There you go. 0:18:49.510 --> 0:18:52.850 He wanted to play the victim last week. Oh my God, 0:18:52.890 --> 0:18:56.190 they mocked my picks. Oh my God, which as Fitty said, 0:18:56.210 --> 0:18:58.810 the Bucks did this week. You'll find it all over 0:18:58.869 --> 0:19:02.360 social media, admin accounts for teams is having fun with 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.720 people that picked against them. 0:19:04.100 --> 0:19:05.100 Now, granted, there's. 0:19:04.940 --> 0:19:07.460 Probably a little oomph behind it from the Panthers bone 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.830 because Chris Sims has been so negative about Bryce that 0:19:10.869 --> 0:19:12.130 I think, you know what I mean? That I think 0:19:12.190 --> 0:19:14.050 people kind of may be over there to kind of like, 0:19:14.090 --> 0:19:16.650 let's really give it to him. But like, you know, 0:19:17.109 --> 0:19:19.460 that's done by teams every week. Why was he so 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:25.120 sensitive and so offended? You can't ever play the little victim. 0:19:25.619 --> 0:19:28.860 You can't play little wussy, wussy, wussy Sims if they 0:19:28.900 --> 0:19:32.050 call you out again now. Because now it's a full-fledged feud, Boney, 0:19:32.330 --> 0:19:33.669 after that performance right there. 0:19:33.690 --> 0:19:35.369 Was that even a real Pirates song or just his 0:19:35.450 --> 0:19:35.889 own song? 0:19:36.970 --> 0:19:38.770 I'd sound like he was singing the Jake and the Neverland. 0:19:38.869 --> 0:19:40.949 Was he singing Jake and the Neverland Pirates? I don't 0:19:40.970 --> 0:19:41.480 know what that was. 0:19:41.490 --> 0:19:43.790 What's going on there? All right, we come back. Adam 0:19:43.850 --> 0:19:47.830 Gold from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh. He'll react to 0:19:47.850 --> 0:19:52.169 the Dave Doran firing. the UNC loss to Syracuse, and 0:19:52.230 --> 0:19:53.469 much more. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:14.120 The craziest thing, Bone, about what has just happened here 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.840 on the Mac and Bone show is that the text line, 0:20:17.900 --> 0:20:23.060 not all, not even the majority, but 30% or so 0:20:23.140 --> 0:20:27.300 responding to the Chris Sims, Wussy Cats, Yo-Ho-Ho pirate routine, 0:20:28.060 --> 0:20:31.220 about 30% of them are saying, oh, he wasn't telling 0:20:31.260 --> 0:20:33.920 any lies. We deserve that one. And I don't think 0:20:33.940 --> 0:20:37.929 we're saying he was lying. Like, he was putting us 0:20:37.970 --> 0:20:40.429 down for all the horrible stuff that we did on 0:20:40.450 --> 0:20:43.650 that football field. It's just that he hated being picked 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.520 on the week before. Now, all of a sudden, he's 0:20:46.580 --> 0:20:48.619 a tough guy. Like Bagel Guy Bone, of course. 0:20:48.660 --> 0:20:51.639 You can name off the people that enjoyed that without 0:20:51.700 --> 0:20:52.880 even looking at the text line. 0:20:52.940 --> 0:20:54.780 And Bagel Guy is one of them. So that's some 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.800 A-plus trolling right there. I think Bebop would even like that. 0:20:57.940 --> 0:20:58.240 He did. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.220 But here's the thing, though. He's like three texts below you. 0:21:01.609 --> 0:21:04.310 If you are a troller, you have to be able 0:21:04.350 --> 0:21:09.000 to take the trolling. I can't say it any simpler 0:21:09.020 --> 0:21:12.540 than that. You can't cry victim the week before and 0:21:12.580 --> 0:21:15.560 then be a badass. Because now it's on. You will 0:21:15.580 --> 0:21:18.460 be trolled constantly now. Or at least you should be. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.630 There's a rule in life that you can't be soft 0:21:21.690 --> 0:21:23.750 and then call somebody a wussy cat and use those 0:21:23.790 --> 0:21:26.369 type of terms the next week. You don't call a 0:21:26.410 --> 0:21:28.910 grown man a wussy cat. It's something you don't do. 0:21:29.090 --> 0:21:31.869 We're also getting a lot of this. He is angry 0:21:31.970 --> 0:21:33.570 still that Al Wallace. 0:21:35.490 --> 0:21:37.970 Messed up his ruptured spring. Yeah, I don't know. 0:21:37.990 --> 0:21:43.510 Maybe there's something to that. We can't say it, though, 0:21:43.530 --> 0:21:43.730 can we? 0:21:44.090 --> 0:21:46.750 No, no. There's a former players question in that, too. 0:21:46.859 --> 0:21:49.100 All right. Let's just leave it at that, though. Let's 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:49.560 leave it at that. 0:21:49.580 --> 0:21:49.840 All right. 0:21:50.340 --> 0:21:53.980 Anyway, speaking of players, that's the word I think of 0:21:54.020 --> 0:21:55.740 when we bring in our next guest, baby. 0:21:55.820 --> 0:21:58.550 Just a player. Adam Gold is joining us. 0:21:58.550 --> 0:22:02.490 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh here in Charlotte. You can 0:22:02.530 --> 0:22:06.890 listen to him most weeknights at 7 o'clock. And Goldie 0:22:06.970 --> 0:22:11.700 is here, I'm sure, to chime in on the Panther debacle, 0:22:11.740 --> 0:22:12.740 among many other things. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.420 What's up, Goldie? How you doing, brother? 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:20.570 I am doing well. Who has the thinnest skin? Chris Sims, 0:22:20.590 --> 0:22:24.930 Pat McAfee. Or Stephen A. Smith? 0:22:25.030 --> 0:22:25.369 Yes. 0:22:25.750 --> 0:22:28.130 The answer is yes. That is a great question. 0:22:28.150 --> 0:22:32.640 Yeah, McAfee's thin skin will appear next segment on the show. 0:22:32.660 --> 0:22:35.139 So it's interesting you bring that up. I'm going to 0:22:35.180 --> 0:22:36.780 go McAfee in the moment, yes. 0:22:37.380 --> 0:22:42.350 Did you see the video that he is all, like, 0:22:43.270 --> 0:22:45.050 you know, underwear and a bunch about. 0:22:45.250 --> 0:22:47.590 It's so bland from the Utah students. 0:22:47.790 --> 0:22:49.729 It's nothing. 0:22:49.830 --> 0:22:50.910 It's crazy. 0:22:51.190 --> 0:22:53.710 He felt uncomfortable at you. 0:22:54.090 --> 0:22:56.149 Are you joking? I couldn't believe it. 0:22:56.170 --> 0:22:58.930 Thought he might get assassinated off that video and what 0:22:58.950 --> 0:22:59.750 in the world? 0:22:59.970 --> 0:23:02.010 We got to play this for y'all coming up next 0:23:02.050 --> 0:23:04.470 segment of what he said, because it was unbelievable. 0:23:04.530 --> 0:23:06.609 You think that a guy that makes that much money, 0:23:06.690 --> 0:23:08.960 is involved in as many things as he wants to do, 0:23:09.020 --> 0:23:13.420 controls all of ESPN, would not really care what a 0:23:13.460 --> 0:23:15.030 bunch of Utah nerds have to say about him. 0:23:15.060 --> 0:23:16.840 But here we say it. Seriously. 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.200 Was he most offended by the keep your shirt on? 0:23:21.220 --> 0:23:24.510 I mean, if they said that about me, I would understand. 0:23:25.590 --> 0:23:28.750 Maybe that's why McAfee's like, I'm fit. I actually look 0:23:28.770 --> 0:23:31.869 good with my shirt off. Oh, man. I don't get it. 0:23:31.869 --> 0:23:33.330 Yeah, we got to let y'all hear what he said 0:23:33.390 --> 0:23:36.820 on his show yesterday because it is crazy. But also 0:23:36.859 --> 0:23:39.740 crazy was the Panthers' performance that we did not see 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:43.180 come in Goldie. I mean, how much does that worry 0:23:43.220 --> 0:23:46.380 you that, man, maybe this team is not– you know, 0:23:46.420 --> 0:23:50.150 made the strides and the growth that we thought they did? 0:23:50.590 --> 0:23:52.590 Or do you just view it as just a crap 0:23:52.630 --> 0:23:54.530 game and flush it like they've been saying? 0:23:54.609 --> 0:23:55.130 What do you think? 0:23:56.530 --> 0:23:58.590 I'm not going to be prisoner of the moment about it. 0:23:58.930 --> 0:24:02.690 It all depends on whether or not we have assigned 0:24:02.810 --> 0:24:07.230 meaning to to the previous two weeks where, all right, 0:24:07.270 --> 0:24:11.389 this is a team that's basically now going to run 0:24:11.470 --> 0:24:14.430 roughshod on the rest of the league. And I didn't. 0:24:14.570 --> 0:24:17.929 I still think that they were, you know, a 9 0:24:17.930 --> 0:24:22.940 or 10 win team. And that doesn't change. And they 0:24:22.980 --> 0:24:27.119 had a bad game against a capable team. And let's 0:24:27.180 --> 0:24:32.340 be perfectly honest. The mistakes that they made early, the 0:24:32.420 --> 0:24:38.700 muffed punts, then the strip sack return for a touchdown 0:24:39.300 --> 0:24:42.119 had them in a spot where they were behind it. 0:24:42.220 --> 0:24:46.100 Then Bryce completes, I mean, a gorgeous pass to Waller 0:24:46.140 --> 0:24:49.040 for the touchdown. And then they can't block the guy 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.980 up the middle. And all of a sudden, so rather 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.120 than pick up seven points, they'd pick up four. And 0:24:56.500 --> 0:25:04.620 so instead of being down, it would have been 17, what? 17, seven. Yeah, 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:10.790 it's now 19-6. Unbelievable. So right there, then you throw 0:25:10.830 --> 0:25:15.210 the interception. I actually haven't heard whether or not... I mean, 0:25:15.990 --> 0:25:19.450 that pass was so bad, part of me thinks that 0:25:19.510 --> 0:25:23.260 it was a bad route or guys trying to read 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.740 off each other and they just individually made different reads. 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.720 Because the pass was... I don't know who that was to. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:31.500 I really don't. Seriously. 0:25:32.500 --> 0:25:32.720 So. 0:25:33.619 --> 0:25:36.820 After that, I think the game was gone, and I 0:25:36.859 --> 0:25:39.199 don't really put anything into it. It was just one 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:44.169 of those things. But, look, on the back-to-back sacks, we've 0:25:44.190 --> 0:25:47.030 been saying, at least I have, all year long, I 0:25:47.050 --> 0:25:49.709 don't trust the offensive line. It's amazing that they were 0:25:49.750 --> 0:25:52.350 this good without a good offensive line. They're not good 0:25:52.390 --> 0:25:55.929 up the middle. Rasheed Walker has not been good. He 0:25:55.970 --> 0:25:58.960 has not been good at left tackle. I don't know 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:03.220 if it was a plant by Ike Ikuonu to get paid. 0:26:04.010 --> 0:26:06.290 But Walker has not been good. 0:26:06.350 --> 0:26:07.330 No, it's been brutal. 0:26:07.910 --> 0:26:09.930 Do you think eventually they're going to have to make 0:26:09.950 --> 0:26:11.270 a move at defensive coordinator? 0:26:12.810 --> 0:26:20.210 No. No, I like Averro. I mean, is he Vic Fangio? 0:26:20.330 --> 0:26:25.830 Probably not. But there's a reason why he is one 0:26:25.850 --> 0:26:29.689 of those under-the-radar head coaching candidates. I think he has 0:26:29.730 --> 0:26:32.300 got a great rep around the league. I don't think 0:26:32.340 --> 0:26:35.860 he's the problem. Uh, to me, the pro I mean, honestly, 0:26:35.900 --> 0:26:41.040 there were 14 to 16 defensive points put on the board, um, early. 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.139 I just think you get, they haven't been able to 0:26:44.180 --> 0:26:48.420 stop the run forever. So, I mean, Vero is not 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.930 the first guy that, uh, hasn't been able to stop 0:26:50.970 --> 0:26:54.169 the run. Uh, like I said, it's against the, uh, 0:26:55.369 --> 0:26:59.650 the bears and it was made worse by Caleb Williams, uh, 0:26:59.690 --> 0:27:05.580 going nuts. They couldn't stop Swift either. Um, the, I'm 0:27:05.700 --> 0:27:09.770 not a hundred percent sure they've got elite defensive personnel. 0:27:10.470 --> 0:27:12.530 I think there's only so much you can do. Lloyd 0:27:12.570 --> 0:27:15.369 is great. Uh, I don't think Derek Brown had his 0:27:15.410 --> 0:27:18.410 best game this past weekend. Uh, but they really couldn't 0:27:18.470 --> 0:27:22.150 stop Bucky Irving. Um, and, but they haven't been able 0:27:22.170 --> 0:27:25.120 to stop the run in a while. Um, I think they, 0:27:25.460 --> 0:27:29.550 you know, not having Phillips, not, uh, certainly hurt i 0:27:29.570 --> 0:27:31.149 don't know that it hurts the run game but it 0:27:31.190 --> 0:27:32.250 just hurts your own world. 0:27:32.150 --> 0:27:34.670 Defense definitely i think he's the best run playing edge 0:27:34.730 --> 0:27:38.600 not to mention the corners um were targeted were targeted 0:27:38.650 --> 0:27:41.680 and you lose two great tackling corners so and nick 0:27:41.700 --> 0:27:44.040 scorton nick scorton's a great run defender i mean i 0:27:44.060 --> 0:27:45.159 know that's old news. 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.540 Oh man a lot of personnel issues there. 0:27:47.500 --> 0:27:50.300 Okay let's uh um Mack gold. What the hell am 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.060 I talking about? Adam gold is with us here on 0:27:53.340 --> 0:27:56.940 the back view of an old view. 0:27:57.190 --> 0:28:00.389 A hairless me, Adam gold, apparently. 0:28:00.410 --> 0:28:01.169 All right. 0:28:01.190 --> 0:28:04.330 Um, Adam gold, Adam gold is with us. Um, let's 0:28:04.369 --> 0:28:07.700 talk about the big news in Raleigh. Dave Doran fired 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:13.340 after the Stanford loss. Now Phillip rivers is seen as this, 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.480 you know, hot candidate. How do you feel about the 0:28:16.540 --> 0:28:20.179 firing being done in season? Uh, And then, and, and 0:28:20.270 --> 0:28:21.350 Rivers as a candidate. 0:28:23.270 --> 0:28:25.990 I think the firing, even though it's out of character 0:28:26.130 --> 0:28:29.450 for state, I don't know, can't remember them ever doing 0:28:29.510 --> 0:28:32.330 it since I've been here. I think it had to 0:28:32.390 --> 0:28:37.810 happen just because it was too toxic. And it's one 0:28:37.850 --> 0:28:40.710 of those things that, I mean, they could have let it, 0:28:40.970 --> 0:28:42.570 let it go to the end of the year. Wouldn't have, 0:28:42.710 --> 0:28:47.150 wouldn't have really impacted anything significant, but it's one of 0:28:47.210 --> 0:28:51.270 those things where, And I've said this before. I kind 0:28:51.310 --> 0:28:55.130 of wish that Dave would have retired like a couple 0:28:55.150 --> 0:28:59.210 of years ago. You know, I keep saying that there's 0:28:59.330 --> 0:29:04.270 two different parallel conversations. There's the conversation about the program, 0:29:04.590 --> 0:29:09.170 which I think is outstanding. And then there's the conversation 0:29:09.210 --> 0:29:13.250 about why can't Dave get the most out of any 0:29:13.370 --> 0:29:18.070 individual season? Why is there always meat left on the bones? 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:24.590 for a particular season. For instance, this year, look, there's 0:29:24.670 --> 0:29:27.830 no business losing to Stanford if you're NC State, none, 0:29:28.290 --> 0:29:32.410 but they did. The way you lost to Vanderbilt, it's 0:29:32.630 --> 0:29:40.860 really unacceptable. So what are they, three and four? I mean, 0:29:41.300 --> 0:29:46.220 at the very least, they should be four and three. 0:29:46.780 --> 0:29:50.520 If you say they beat Vanderbilt, but maybe don't beat Louisville. So, 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.640 I mean, at the very least, they should be four 0:29:54.660 --> 0:29:57.270 and three, but probably five and two. And we're not 0:29:57.290 --> 0:30:01.510 having this conversation, right? Because the program has been so 0:30:01.630 --> 0:30:04.490 good and so consistent. State fans will argue with me 0:30:04.550 --> 0:30:08.650 all day long. You can't find a 10-year run before 0:30:08.710 --> 0:30:14.710 this year that has a better outcome over a 10-year period. 0:30:14.950 --> 0:30:18.740 You can't find it. Certainly not with one coach. Doran 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.100 has really laid the foundation for somebody else to take 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.540 it to the next step. In some ways, he's like 0:30:27.580 --> 0:30:31.180 David Cutcliffe at Duke. And that at the end, it 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.710 became apparent that David couldn't get them to the next 0:30:34.790 --> 0:30:37.370 step if they wanted to take another step. And they 0:30:37.450 --> 0:30:40.290 obviously did, because that's what success does. It makes you 0:30:40.330 --> 0:30:45.110 want more success. Dorn had basically cranked out eight win 0:30:45.150 --> 0:30:47.120 seasons over and over and over and over and over again. 0:30:47.500 --> 0:30:49.820 Sometimes there was a nine. Sometimes there was a seven. 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.600 There was an occasional bad. But that's basically what they 0:30:52.620 --> 0:30:55.330 had become. and now you want more, and I get it. 0:30:55.650 --> 0:30:58.270 Totally get it. Dave couldn't do that. I wish he 0:30:58.310 --> 0:31:01.670 had retired a couple years ago and let somebody else. 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.200 Then he'd be a hero, and now he's just another 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.500 fired coach, although I give him a lot of credit. 0:31:07.580 --> 0:31:09.320 Today he's going to do a Zoom at 4 o'clock. 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.480 Much credit to him for that. That's awesome. 0:31:11.580 --> 0:31:16.810 What do you think of him talking before Boo talks? 0:31:16.850 --> 0:31:19.350 What's that say about the future of Boo as the 0:31:19.410 --> 0:31:20.410 AD at NC State? 0:31:22.100 --> 0:31:24.300 Oh, I don't, you know, I hadn't really thought about 0:31:24.340 --> 0:31:29.840 it in those terms. I I'm not sure NC state 0:31:29.940 --> 0:31:34.560 has had, I like boo personally. I really do. I'm 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:41.740 not sure they have had very many strong ADs since 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.050 I've been here. I mean, Lee Fowler was fine. And 0:31:46.150 --> 0:31:49.640 I mean, state fans probably hate him, but he's fine. Um, 0:31:49.900 --> 0:31:54.469 but I wouldn't call him a strong voice. Um, you know, uh, 0:31:55.350 --> 0:31:58.250 I thought North Carolina had that, even though one of 0:31:58.270 --> 0:32:00.710 them was Dick Bedore, uh, he was more of a 0:32:00.750 --> 0:32:03.590 money guy than anything else. I think Bubba Cunningham was 0:32:03.630 --> 0:32:07.580 an outstanding director of athletics. Uh, but these things, these 0:32:07.620 --> 0:32:11.200 programs now are run by the boosters. And I think 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.000 the boosters are running NC state, uh, just like the 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:19.680 boosters are running UNC. Um, That's just the way it's gone. 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.200 The money is running these programs. 0:32:22.500 --> 0:32:24.810 And they always had power, but I'll be damned, they've 0:32:24.870 --> 0:32:27.430 never had this sort of power where they need them 0:32:27.570 --> 0:32:29.510 constantly to get players. 0:32:30.010 --> 0:32:33.510 Goldie, you are the man, brother. You brought it, baby. 0:32:33.550 --> 0:32:34.670 We appreciate you, man. 0:32:35.910 --> 0:32:37.650 You got it. I'm going to go take my shirt off. 0:32:37.850 --> 0:32:40.990 There you go, baby. I'm going to put mine on. 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.040 Please do. Thank you. 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:42.980 Oh, nice. 0:32:44.700 --> 0:32:46.180 That's a vision I will have next. 0:32:46.820 --> 0:32:48.840 Oh, yeah. And you know what, Bo? Put your pants on, too, 0:32:48.860 --> 0:32:50.719 while you're at it. What's going on with you today? 0:32:50.740 --> 0:32:51.020 I will. 0:32:51.100 --> 0:32:51.420 Dime. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.240 Go put your eagle costume on. 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:59.370 All right, Goldie. Goldie, I have a pirate costume, but 0:32:59.430 --> 0:33:02.020 I I know you do. I can't use it yet. 0:33:02.310 --> 0:33:05.510 I know you do. One of these games, we'll beat 0:33:05.530 --> 0:33:05.890 Baker again. 0:33:05.910 --> 0:33:07.320 You're one of the village people. 0:33:10.660 --> 0:33:11.260 Oh, man. 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.300 I don't really know what to do for Thursday. Just 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.350 a big old piece of cheese, I guess. 0:33:15.380 --> 0:33:17.550 We should go out Saturday night, Bone, and just dress 0:33:17.610 --> 0:33:19.650 up in all your different costumes as a group, man. 0:33:19.670 --> 0:33:21.270 Make use of them. I've got more than you know. 0:33:21.290 --> 0:33:22.190 All right, Goldie. 0:33:22.230 --> 0:33:22.830 Thank you, brother. 0:33:23.730 --> 0:33:24.210 Later, fella. 0:33:24.330 --> 0:33:24.729 There you go. 0:33:24.950 --> 0:33:29.160 Adam Gold, 99.9, the fan. I now have an eyepatch 0:33:29.180 --> 0:33:30.420 for you also I can't use yet. 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.540 One of these days we'll beat the Bucs again, man. 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.270 The good news is they play again, but the bad 0:33:35.290 --> 0:33:36.550 news is they play again. 0:33:36.570 --> 0:33:37.750 They own us. 0:33:38.050 --> 0:33:40.030 When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show, 0:33:40.110 --> 0:33:42.430 it's what the bleep time. Stories in sports and in 0:33:42.470 --> 0:33:45.040 life that make us say what the bleep. Max said 0:33:45.060 --> 0:33:46.900 he's got a youth sports story, I believe he said. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:48.600 Oh, yeah. And I've got whatever. 0:33:48.660 --> 0:33:52.620 McAfee's in here. Ric Flair's in here twice. Sports Radio 0:33:52.620 --> 0:33:52.740 92.7 WFNZ. 0:34:13.650 --> 0:34:19.609 Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. The latest person, Bone, to get 0:34:19.660 --> 0:34:23.900 the wrath of the text line, our man Goldie. Our 0:34:23.940 --> 0:34:27.860 man Goldie defended Avero a little too much for the 0:34:27.900 --> 0:34:31.359 text line's liking. Even I am not kind of like that. Like, 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.540 I realize, dude, that Avero is on notice. Like, we 0:34:35.580 --> 0:34:38.360 can't keep having that happen in the run game. I 0:34:38.380 --> 0:34:41.020 am at least willing to admit that. Oh, it's not 0:34:41.100 --> 0:34:43.520 trending in the right direction for him. No one's saying that. Well, 0:34:43.540 --> 0:34:46.379 I don't think Goldie, yeah, I don't think Goldie, you know, 0:34:46.420 --> 0:34:49.660 would even go there, kind of. So anyway, but hey, man, 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.200 it gets the heat off us for a segment, and 0:34:52.340 --> 0:34:54.359 in just a matter of minutes, you'll probably be ripping us, too. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.950 All right? So it'll happen. And when you do, we 0:34:56.969 --> 0:34:57.529 will read them here. 0:34:57.550 --> 0:35:00.350 We will read them. 0:35:00.370 --> 0:35:00.850 704-570-9610. 0:35:01.170 --> 0:35:03.090 Let's get into some What the Bleat, Bone Man. We 0:35:03.450 --> 0:35:06.050 had to move the segment. We had Brenton Buckner. Great interview, 0:35:06.070 --> 0:35:08.350 by the way. Check it out on podcast.com. telling us 0:35:08.410 --> 0:35:11.250 what happened to the run defense and he did stand 0:35:11.310 --> 0:35:13.850 up for rivero himself too earlier in the show check 0:35:13.870 --> 0:35:17.050 that podcast uh out in podcast form but we move 0:35:17.090 --> 0:35:20.220 what the bleep we're doing it now stories sound bites 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.580 florida man actions anything that make us say what the 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:24.460 bleep what do you. 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.200 Got this is a florida man named rick flair all 0:35:27.219 --> 0:35:30.120 right let me try to walk you through his the 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.450 end of his last week mac and then a story 0:35:32.489 --> 0:35:35.410 that pertains to his behavior down there first of all 0:35:36.010 --> 0:35:40.450 He had to cancel an appearance somewhere in the United States, 0:35:40.469 --> 0:35:43.100 wherever he was going, due to having blood clots. So 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.140 a serious thing that we know. He had blood clots. 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.020 He had to cancel his appearance. That was on Thursday. 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:49.360 Yeah. 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.120 Thursday, the same day, he ended up at his favorite 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.600 bar in Tampa. 0:35:55.020 --> 0:35:57.580 Imagine that. He then fell at the bar. 0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:02.000 Busted his eye open, got got stretched back out of 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.680 the bar, much like Ric Flair bleeding from the head. 0:36:05.700 --> 0:36:08.239 Is this real blood or is this Flair's old trip? 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.779 Ended up at the hospital with this giant, giant eye 0:36:11.820 --> 0:36:12.440 patch on. 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.280 And we're all worried about Ric Flair. 0:36:15.230 --> 0:36:18.230 Less than 24 hours later, the next photo is from 0:36:18.270 --> 0:36:21.450 the same bar. Someone took a photo of the nature 0:36:21.489 --> 0:36:22.270 boy at the bar. 0:36:22.310 --> 0:36:24.370 Right back at it. With his eyes patched up. Right 0:36:24.410 --> 0:36:26.130 back at it. He just flushed it, Bone. He flushed 0:36:26.170 --> 0:36:27.910 the rough side of the bar and got right back 0:36:27.969 --> 0:36:28.230 to it. 0:36:28.310 --> 0:36:31.669 Someone on Reddit who works in the service industry down 0:36:31.710 --> 0:36:35.850 there said, have you all had to deal with Ric Flair. 0:36:35.550 --> 0:36:36.359 In 2026 like I have? 0:36:38.300 --> 0:36:41.080 The person, the anonymous Reddit poster that works at a bar, 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:45.380 says Ric Flair has soiled himself at least six times 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:46.500 at that same bar. 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:52.260 Oh, what the bleep is right. Oh, my God. Come on, baby. 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.640 That is not styling and profiling. This is the dirtiest 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.420 pants in the game. Oh, my. 0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.060 The dirtiest pants in the game. 0:36:58.860 --> 0:36:59.440 Oh, my. 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.020 That is brutal, Bone Man. That's your weakened flair. 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.680 That is absolutely brutal. 0:37:04.739 --> 0:37:07.359 This man just walked out of the hospital unharmed. eyepatch 0:37:07.489 --> 0:37:08.589 on and went right back to his bar. 0:37:08.830 --> 0:37:10.930 Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? 0:37:11.110 --> 0:37:14.630 Bone, I've got the story of a future Florida man, 0:37:15.030 --> 0:37:17.850 a youth soccer player that is three years old in 0:37:17.870 --> 0:37:18.629 Florida right now. 0:37:18.710 --> 0:37:19.450 Three years old? 0:37:19.489 --> 0:37:22.610 Winter Park, Florida. Three-year-old soccer player. And I don't know 0:37:22.630 --> 0:37:24.610 if you've seen this. This story has gone viral. They 0:37:24.630 --> 0:37:28.050 were talking about it on CBS this morning, earlier today. 0:37:28.450 --> 0:37:30.819 He is a three-year-old bowler, and he is making the 0:37:31.050 --> 0:37:35.660 other Three-year-old soccer players look silly in this league in 0:37:35.700 --> 0:37:40.100 Florida to the point, Bone, where the cops were called 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.680 about it on Saturday during the soccer game. 0:37:44.739 --> 0:37:46.790 Yes, the cops were called. 0:37:47.230 --> 0:37:50.170 People that were there, Bone, are quoted in the police 0:37:50.210 --> 0:37:55.170 report as saying that the cops were called because the 0:37:55.270 --> 0:37:59.160 kid was too good at soccer. They wanted him removed 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.600 from the field and they wanted other kids to take 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:06.120 his playing time because he was out there making everybody's 0:38:06.180 --> 0:38:07.600 son look silly. 0:38:08.020 --> 0:38:10.299 Now, there also ended up being a back and forth. 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.770 My parents should have called the cops many times. 0:38:13.090 --> 0:38:15.689 There ended up being a back and forth between the 0:38:15.830 --> 0:38:19.730 star three-year-old's parents. and and the cops the cops showed 0:38:19.870 --> 0:38:22.630 up they said hey the game's over now we're leaving 0:38:22.650 --> 0:38:25.230 um but there are people here that don't want him 0:38:25.489 --> 0:38:29.239 on the field i've watched the highlights bone i'm gonna 0:38:29.260 --> 0:38:31.940 tell you right now parents instead of calling the cops 0:38:32.260 --> 0:38:34.500 and trying to get this kid kicked out of the 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.240 soccer league y'all got to teach these kids some defending 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.759 bone i'm telling you right now This was some hideous defending. 0:38:42.060 --> 0:38:45.490 This kid looks like Leo Messi with all your sorry 0:38:45.570 --> 0:38:48.750 center backs trying to handle this kid. Coach your kids up. 0:38:48.930 --> 0:38:51.510 Don't whine to the damn police. What the bleep is that? 0:38:51.570 --> 0:38:52.910 We should have called the cops on Sunday. 0:38:52.930 --> 0:38:58.840 That's funny. That is funny right there. Unbelievable, man. 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:03.660 Mac, have you followed the torrid romance between Leslie Pickett 0:39:04.500 --> 0:39:07.180 and Jon Bon Jovi? Have you followed this romance? 0:39:10.130 --> 0:39:10.270 No. 0:39:10.650 --> 0:39:14.319 Either has Jon Bon Jovi because this is another high-profile 0:39:14.430 --> 0:39:17.920 online safety case where a woman fell for a scammer 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.540 that was impersonating rock legend Jon Bon Jovi. She gave 0:39:22.580 --> 0:39:26.590 him $ 10, 000 to a man she thought she was dating 0:39:26.670 --> 0:39:29.480 that was not the real john bon jovi oh come 0:39:29.580 --> 0:39:31.520 on now seriously he was even using come on now 0:39:31.580 --> 0:39:34.380 fellas he was easy even using ai matt to talk 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.020 to her as bon jovi and it wasn't him that 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.980 ain't cool man that ain't cool what's the bleep and 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.719 it started in nigeria so basically she fell for like 0:39:42.739 --> 0:39:46.500 the new age you know nigerian prince scam but this 0:39:46.540 --> 0:39:48.390 wasn't prince this was bon jovi. 0:39:48.860 --> 0:39:52.350 By the way, Bone, and this guy out there, if 0:39:52.390 --> 0:39:55.190 he were to be listening, that's not cool at all. 0:39:55.810 --> 0:39:58.969 That's dishonest, and that is very lame. But at least 0:39:59.050 --> 0:40:02.170 pick a better celebrity than Jon Bon Jovi in 2026. 0:40:02.170 --> 0:40:05.070 It's not 1990 anymore, y'all. Seriously. 0:40:05.250 --> 0:40:07.590 Oh, my God. I just got shot through the heart. 0:40:07.810 --> 0:40:10.469 All right. But you are not to blame, Bone. 0:40:10.590 --> 0:40:10.850 All right? 0:40:10.890 --> 0:40:11.290 Seriously. 0:40:11.469 --> 0:40:14.690 This guy gives love a bad name. I worry about 0:40:14.750 --> 0:40:17.410 people falling for online scams. Vinny, you've met your girl 0:40:17.430 --> 0:40:18.049 in real life, right? 0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:19.620 Yes. 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.340 That didn't involve a Nigerian princess. Flounder is going to 0:40:23.380 --> 0:40:24.799 fall for Sidney Sweeney at some point. 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:26.760 Oh, man. 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.660 People are fired up, by the way, about this story. 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.219 A couple of things with the kid. I'm going back 0:40:31.260 --> 0:40:33.140 to the kid now, Bone. He was playing in a 0:40:33.500 --> 0:40:36.419 five-U league. So he's playing against kids that are older 0:40:36.460 --> 0:40:41.299 than him, even. Still making him look silly. Yes, some 0:40:41.340 --> 0:40:43.779 people are saying the parents were the problem whatsoever, but 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.410 there were other observers saying, that basically said they want 0:40:46.430 --> 0:40:47.750 to kick this kid out of the league because. 0:40:47.610 --> 0:40:50.109 He's too good. And the parents got upset about that. 0:40:50.210 --> 0:40:51.770 So whatever. I'm just going to say this. 0:40:52.110 --> 0:40:53.870 How about I what the bleep the cops need me 0:40:53.890 --> 0:40:55.989 to be called to a youth sports league? As someone 0:40:56.010 --> 0:40:59.009 who's been around youth sports for years, I understand people 0:40:59.050 --> 0:41:00.310 are crazy and out of control. 0:41:00.710 --> 0:41:02.490 It should never require police intervention. 0:41:02.530 --> 0:41:02.810 No, no, no. 0:41:02.830 --> 0:41:05.770 Like, we need the adults to sort things out. But anyway, 0:41:06.030 --> 0:41:08.090 let's get to the Pat McAfee portion of what the 0:41:08.140 --> 0:41:11.219 bleep on. Adam Gold teed this up for us, and 0:41:11.260 --> 0:41:14.540 we are going to pay it off. So Pat McAfee 0:41:14.580 --> 0:41:18.780 Bone was very upset while doing game day on Saturday. 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.110 It started, Bone, with him taking his shirt off at 0:41:21.130 --> 0:41:24.230 the start of the show in protest of a New 0:41:24.250 --> 0:41:27.029 York Times article, Bone, which is two weeks old. that 0:41:27.110 --> 0:41:29.440 called him out and said basically he's ruining game day 0:41:29.460 --> 0:41:31.939 with his hijinks. He is, this is the second straight week, 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.620 Boney's had to call that article out on game day. 0:41:35.100 --> 0:41:38.919 And then there was also this viral video that were 0:41:38.980 --> 0:41:43.810 students doing McAfee impressions at Utah, goofing off, saying McAfee, 0:41:43.830 --> 0:41:44.770 leave your shirt on. 0:41:44.830 --> 0:41:46.150 I love you, but it's creepy. 0:41:46.730 --> 0:41:50.640 And the university then posted it on their Instagram account. 0:41:51.070 --> 0:41:53.400 It upset McAfee so much that at the end of 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.820 the show, he defiantly picked against Utah only because of 0:41:56.860 --> 0:42:00.120 this and said, I want to never come back here again. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.280 He was that upset by this Instagram post that wasn't anything. 0:42:04.380 --> 0:42:06.390 They never called him creepy, by the way, in the video. Oh, 0:42:06.420 --> 0:42:08.580 they didn't say creepy. No, corny, but not creepy. Corny 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.040 they did. He said they called him creepy. They just 0:42:11.060 --> 0:42:13.340 said keep your shirt on. Yes, they never called him creepy. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.919 So that's important context here. Even if they did call 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.460 him creepy, like you're going to act a fool. I 0:42:18.540 --> 0:42:20.080 act a fool for a living. I'm going to say 0:42:20.100 --> 0:42:22.140 it right now. I act a fool for a living. 0:42:22.380 --> 0:42:24.759 I want, like, when I dance like an ass, I 0:42:24.860 --> 0:42:26.620 want to be made fun of. Like, I am trying 0:42:26.660 --> 0:42:29.930 to amuse you. The stuff that Pat McAfee does is 0:42:30.110 --> 0:42:34.149 begging for people to react. And when he gets reactions, 0:42:34.489 --> 0:42:36.089 he wants to cry about it. That's not the way 0:42:36.150 --> 0:42:39.270 it should work. Listen to him yesterday, two days later, Bone, 0:42:39.750 --> 0:42:42.530 still telling everybody how much he now hates Utah because 0:42:42.550 --> 0:42:42.830 of this. 0:42:43.610 --> 0:42:46.610 Right before I go out there, okay? Right before I 0:42:46.650 --> 0:42:52.680 go out there. I see the University of Utah's Instagram page. Okay? 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:53.799 The universities. 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:54.560 This is. 0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.300 This is how we are. They put out an impression 0:42:59.340 --> 0:43:02.080 of Pat McAfee, and one kid goes, oh, he's corny. 0:43:02.100 --> 0:43:05.360 Another kid calls me creepy. If these kids would have 0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:07.910 done this on their own blogs, all good. I mean, 0:43:07.950 --> 0:43:10.509 everybody's taking shots at me anyways for everything. I get it. 0:43:10.830 --> 0:43:12.930 If the two ladies that were hosting that put that 0:43:12.989 --> 0:43:15.040 out on their own blog, I'd be okay with it. Hey, 0:43:15.070 --> 0:43:17.450 you're allowed to do what you want. The university puts 0:43:17.489 --> 0:43:20.009 that out? Like, as I'm about to go out and 0:43:20.030 --> 0:43:22.509 do an infomercial for the place, and then I'm walking 0:43:22.530 --> 0:43:24.690 in front of thousands of these people. This is how 0:43:24.730 --> 0:43:27.609 the university feels about it. It's an uncomfortable feeling. I'm like, 0:43:27.650 --> 0:43:29.760 this is, you know, I'm getting a lot of shrapnel 0:43:29.780 --> 0:43:32.819 from a lot of places. The university is putting this out? 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.620 That is something I just had never experienced, really, in 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.360 my entire life. So it kind of sent me off 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.220 a little bit. It made me feel a little bit weird, 0:43:41.460 --> 0:43:42.839 I would say. It made me feel a little bit weird. 0:43:43.180 --> 0:43:45.410 And then I thought to myself, has anything, like, really 0:43:45.489 --> 0:43:49.279 scary happened at, like, a college event? gathering in the 0:43:49.340 --> 0:43:51.609 state of Utah recently? Like, do we think we should 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.009 be amplifying reasons for why people hate my guts as 0:43:55.050 --> 0:43:58.070 a university? I don't know. So it was just, it 0:43:58.090 --> 0:44:00.549 was a lot of mixed feelings for me going out there. 0:44:01.100 --> 0:44:04.899 And then, obviously, the kicker goes, only $ 1 million? Only 0:44:04.900 --> 0:44:07.680 $ 1 million? It's like, all right, I hate this place. 0:44:08.219 --> 0:44:10.299 I hate this place. They got a good football team, though. 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.140 They got a good football team. But I've never been 0:44:13.180 --> 0:44:15.980 more uncomfortable, honestly, in my life, walking in front of 0:44:16.020 --> 0:44:18.860 a group of people after watching their university put out 0:44:18.900 --> 0:44:21.000 a post basically dogging me just moments before. 0:44:21.780 --> 0:44:25.109 It's the most dramatic reaction to really nothing that was 0:44:25.140 --> 0:44:27.770 said I've ever heard in my life. You talk about 0:44:28.130 --> 0:44:32.330 the softest skinned person in America for all that he does. Like, 0:44:32.370 --> 0:44:34.160 you got to understand, Pat, the way you act, not 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.359 everyone's going to be for you. But what they said 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.220 in the video was just. 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:39.440 Just, just. 0:44:39.460 --> 0:44:39.860 Silliness. 0:44:39.969 --> 0:44:41.469 College kids being silliness. 0:44:41.770 --> 0:44:42.030 Yeah. 0:44:42.450 --> 0:44:44.910 College kids silliness leave your shirt on i love you 0:44:44.950 --> 0:44:47.489 leave your shirt on oh he's corny like that's the 0:44:47.550 --> 0:44:49.589 stuff bone we read on the text line every day 0:44:49.670 --> 0:44:53.989 max max corny max dad joke like like like you 0:44:54.030 --> 0:44:56.940 are is great you are i'm sorry you are a 0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.780 personality like that you you should know what you're doing 0:45:00.940 --> 0:45:02.879 and by the way you should love the fact that 0:45:02.940 --> 0:45:06.760 the whole video was students talking about you You'll become 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.020 the star of game day very quickly. And you are 0:45:10.060 --> 0:45:12.800 the guy that students are talking about. And they love 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.610 you or they hate you. And then, as people are 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.790 pointing out on the text line, to reference what happened 0:45:18.810 --> 0:45:22.730 to Charlie Kirk and compare it to that, how the 0:45:22.850 --> 0:45:23.430 heck do you. 0:45:23.989 --> 0:45:24.989 You said it dramatic. 0:45:25.110 --> 0:45:27.470 He took a hell of a route from that video 0:45:27.489 --> 0:45:28.530 to assassination. 0:45:28.790 --> 0:45:30.690 It's just... They were having fun, bro. 0:45:30.750 --> 0:45:34.640 Also, like McAfee, you think you're... You're on the level 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.259 where people would want to, like, assassinate you? 0:45:37.340 --> 0:45:38.040 Like, what? 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.259 You talk about thinking that you're a certain person of... 0:45:41.260 --> 0:45:44.440 I mean, yeah, you're valued for the sports world and 0:45:44.460 --> 0:45:47.520 all that, but my gracious, assassination attempt. 0:45:47.540 --> 0:45:49.819 Because students call you corny and don't take your shirt 0:45:49.910 --> 0:45:52.069 off while smiling and laughing and saying they love you. 0:45:52.650 --> 0:45:53.250 That.... 0:45:54.450 --> 0:45:55.549 Equals assassination attempt? 0:45:55.570 --> 0:45:55.810 Yeah. 0:45:56.350 --> 0:45:57.509 And he just seems like. 0:45:57.590 --> 0:45:59.670 The New York Times article, I told you, Bone, he 0:45:59.710 --> 0:46:01.870 had to take a dig at them for the second straight... Like, 0:46:02.410 --> 0:46:04.110 took off his shirt. Usually does it at the end 0:46:04.130 --> 0:46:06.130 of the show, right? During his prediction. Took off his 0:46:06.150 --> 0:46:08.989 shirt to start the show because of the New York 0:46:09.010 --> 0:46:10.870 Times article, which was 10 days earlier. 0:46:11.290 --> 0:46:11.850 Like, he just. 0:46:12.250 --> 0:46:15.780 The criticism really bothers him. And, like, I get it. Like, 0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.259 there'll be criticism that'll bother me or whatever, and then 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.960 I try to remind myself, like, you can't put yourself 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.739 out there like that without, like. 0:46:24.300 --> 0:46:26.040 Criticism. You know what I mean? 0:46:26.260 --> 0:46:29.540 His style brings– if you don't want criticism, go be 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.739 Reese Davis. Reese Davis won't get mocked like that. Like, 0:46:32.820 --> 0:46:36.279 what you do is so strong-willed, like, it is going 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.439 to bring on criticism. 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:39.620 It's just inevitable. 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.640 Do we think Charles Barkley would act this way, who 0:46:41.700 --> 0:46:45.120 messes with everybody? He calls San Antonio big women, goes there, 0:46:45.180 --> 0:46:46.060 and they mess with them, right? 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:46.970 I felt what the bleep you did, man. 0:46:46.980 --> 0:46:49.320 By the way, McAfee, do what I do and be 0:46:49.610 --> 0:46:53.529 above the critics like that, McAfee. Also, also, Mackers, I 0:46:53.550 --> 0:46:55.370 have a question before we go to break. From what 0:46:55.450 --> 0:46:58.730 I see, he gets a ton of views. He makes 0:46:58.770 --> 0:47:01.510 a ton of money. He's made a life for himself. 0:47:01.989 --> 0:47:05.450 Who are the McAfee fans of 2026? Because on the 0:47:05.469 --> 0:47:11.160 text line, I'd say 99.9% of our audience doesn't like McAfee. 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.360 You go on the internet, they don't like McAfee. 0:47:13.620 --> 0:47:15.739 It's young. It's young people. Yeah, I guess it is. 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:16.280 I guess. 0:47:16.300 --> 0:47:18.239 You want to know the irony? Those kids on those 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.859 videos like McAfee. They made a movie. They're just playing. 0:47:21.060 --> 0:47:23.819 They're playing a part. They're busting chops. Like, people bust 0:47:23.860 --> 0:47:27.020 our chops. Like, they're busting his chops or whatever. And 0:47:27.060 --> 0:47:28.360 we got our guy here on the text line. I 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:29.510 don't even know how to say his name. 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.060 Wouch. I like to say guach. Guach? 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:33.660 Guach? 0:47:33.739 --> 0:47:34.520 I call him guach. 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.500 Guach says, you do a live show at UNC Charlotte. 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.540 We should call him Charlotte now, or else they might 0:47:39.580 --> 0:47:41.359 post a video about us. But he says, you go 0:47:41.460 --> 0:47:43.580 do a live show at Charlotte. They post something about 0:47:43.620 --> 0:47:46.160 the students talking bad about you, and you're not going 0:47:46.180 --> 0:47:47.480 to come on the next day and complain. 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:48.839 Oh, no, Mac. 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.049 Don't dance out here. Don't dance out here, Mac. We 0:47:52.090 --> 0:47:53.910 make fun of you. It was harmless silliness. 0:47:53.969 --> 0:47:57.010 It would be like them saying this uncoordinated dad joke 0:47:57.110 --> 0:47:57.770 in Goober. 0:47:57.850 --> 0:48:02.169 Like, it was so... It was just such silly... Hey, Bo, 0:48:02.190 --> 0:48:04.950 don't wear all your team gear out here. All right, 0:48:04.969 --> 0:48:06.819 we're going to break right now. When we come back, 0:48:06.860 --> 0:48:09.680 the Hornets are off to a 3-1 start. Brandon Miller 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.910 looks like he's on that star course. Are the Bugs 0:48:12.969 --> 0:48:16.490 turning the Boos into cheer? Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.