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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wednesday. Later, traditional and natural pathic doctor doctor

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Speaker 1: A will re turn to our classroom. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: please please take advantage of her expertise. Doctor A will

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Speaker 1: provide you with a traditional or holistic response. But before

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Speaker 1: doctor A, world traveler Kim Hoss will take us on

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Speaker 1: a tour of Afro Latina countries as we expanded the aspora.

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Speaker 1: But to get us started momentarily activists, doctor tel Zeno

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Speaker 1: Wilson Debadio will update us on his garvination program. But

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Speaker 1: first let's get Kevin to reopen these classroom doors. Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed Carl Nelson and today the eighteenth of February,

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Speaker 2: as everything continues, and Wednesday is sometimes known as hump Day,

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Speaker 2: but that's somewhat controversial because you just be yourself, be

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Speaker 2: positive and you can.

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Speaker 3: Make it right. Carl, how you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. Today's also ash Wednesday for Christians, especially Catholic.

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Speaker 1: If you go out somewhere and see with the ashmark

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Speaker 1: Ash Wednesday and leading up into Easter. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: all our Christian brothers. At the same time, shout out

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Speaker 1: to our Muslim brothers who are also commemorating Ramadan the

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Speaker 1: bark I should say, yeah, okay, and Holy Month. Holy Month,

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Speaker 1: all right, and now to all of the world and

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Speaker 1: all the ships at sea, we welcome you to the

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Speaker 1: Colin Nelson Show University with the dean of radio the

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Speaker 3: I'm Kevin Langford.

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Speaker 2: And look, speaking of muslim did you hear about the

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Speaker 2: gop rap who faces censure because of an anti Muslim

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Speaker 2: post representative Randy Fine out of Florida.

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Speaker 3: Do you hear about that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I heard that story Randy Fine. And he's

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Speaker 1: a serious trumpster and he's I think in Central Florida

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Speaker 1: or northern Florida from those areas, and he's a real hardcore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not Muslims, immigrants. He basically he

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Speaker 1: just likes white folks. That's it. He attacks everybody. But

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Speaker 1: his latest attack is on the Muslim community.

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Speaker 3: Right. I don't see exactly what he said.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that yet here in this article, but

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Speaker 2: they are saying that he's doubling down on whatever the

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Speaker 2: remarks were, and it escalates a controversy. That's ruling calls

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Speaker 2: for his censure and for his resignation, as well as

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Speaker 2: for Speaker Mike Johnson to take away his committee posts

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Speaker 2: he took see he took office less than a year

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Speaker 2: And if they force us to choose the choice between oh,

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Speaker 2: here it is, he said Sunday on X.

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Speaker 3: If they force us to choose the choice.

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Speaker 2: Between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one.

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Speaker 3: What man, where did the people get this audastic the right?

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Speaker 1: That's what he taketked about dogs, and people say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they'll choose the dogs. People say he'll choose the dogs

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Speaker 1: You know, he mentioned that Mike Johnson has been quiet

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Speaker 1: of course, the President's leader of the party, they've been

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Speaker 1: So far, nothing has happened.

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Speaker 2: Right, give him his walking papers. Representative Alexandria O Casia

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Speaker 2: Cortes says, this is genuinely one of the most disgusting

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Speaker 2: and so the House Oversight Community Committee, rather the ranking member,

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Speaker 2: Robert Garcia said Johnson should strip or find all of

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Speaker 2: But they're all speaking resignation, but it's kind of on

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Speaker 1: They hope that it just blow out over because he

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Speaker 1: What is the reaction to what he's doing is the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, silence that in and of itself is its own enemy.

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Speaker 2: And then silence is implicit with the action. If you

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Speaker 2: In other news, citing or Wells nineteen eighty four that

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Speaker 2: exhibit that it removed in Philadelphia and exhibit about nine

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Speaker 2: people enslaved by George Washington must be restored at its

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Speaker 2: What are your feelings on that, Carl?

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw the picture on the news when

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Speaker 1: he's going to appeal a judge's decision. So far as

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Speaker 1: black community in Philadelphia, of course is celebrating. But they knew,

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Speaker 1: The question is to the black follows, the black supporters

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Speaker 3: Kevin. Sure.

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Speaker 2: Now, the issue appears to be that he removed the

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Speaker 2: you know, okay, to take down the statue. She prohibited

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Speaker 2: Trump officials from installing replacements that would explain, according to Trump,

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Speaker 3: And was there really sanity back in those days?

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Speaker 2: And anyway, So here's the Orwellian quote, as if the

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Speaker 2: now asked to determine whether the federal government has the

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Speaker 3: And she says it does not. So you can't just

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Speaker 1: Well, well, so far he has. He's ignored all the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, So, un, let's take a quick look before

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Speaker 2: we conclude, and take a quick look at African American

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Speaker 2: history for Black History Month and Did you know the

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Speaker 2: home security system was invented by a black nurse in

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Speaker 2: Her name was Marie van Britton Brown. She was born

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Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty two in Queens, New York. And picture

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Speaker 3: They didn't feel safe.

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Speaker 2: So instead of just worrying about it, she designed a solution.

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Speaker 3: That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty six, Marie and her husband created a

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it starts right at the front door. Let's do

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Speaker 2: something about this. So a nurse from Queen's is our

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Speaker 1: For thank Before we go, Kevin, we got our condolences

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Speaker 1: to the family of Reverend Graylon Hagar from Plymouth United

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Speaker 1: And you know this is where we heard if we

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Claude Anderson did, gregve Tony Browner,

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Speaker 1: their pastor emeritus. I just want to get that in right.

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Speaker 3: May he rest in power. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 3: On the eighteenth of February. Thank you Carlin for your doing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Kevin. All right, all right, family, twelve mays

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Speaker 1: Wilson de Barrio, Doctor del Zeno Grand Rising, welcome back

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's a pleasure to be here, my brother, a pleasure.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you again to tell us how

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Speaker 1: you got started with what you call the Nation program,

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Speaker 1: because I totally give us an update, but we always

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Speaker 1: So if you can share with us, how did you

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Speaker 1: conceptualize this project that you're working on now, it's called

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Speaker 1: the Govie Nation Program.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, yes, sir. Well, some years ago, when my

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Speaker 5: have invented here in America. There are thousands of years

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Speaker 5: of history, thousands. You should see some of these lessons

435
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Speaker 5: every day. It's another little bite sized snapshot so that

436
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Speaker 5: in ten fifteen minutes members can come on and get

437
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Speaker 5: enriched with knowledge and inspiration. It's truly powerful. But from

438
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Speaker 5: East Africa to West Africa, from North Africa to South

439
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Speaker 5: Africa to Europe Asia, the Black history is everywhere. And

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00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 5: boy are we delivering it to our people, and people

441
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 5: are raving about it. Brothers and sisters all over the

442
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Speaker 5: world who never knew any.

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Speaker 1: Of this great thirty minutes to top down, I guess

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Speaker 1: they'll Wilson del Barrio his projects called the Garvination Program.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's basically recycling that black dollars. If if

446
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Speaker 1: there's a black there's something that you want, something you

447
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: need or a professional this is the place to go

448
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: to get it. Cliff's calling us from Connecticut. Is online too,

449
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Cliff, you're on with el Zeno.

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Speaker 6: My calling Grand Rise Aster, your guests. I'll be totally honest.

451
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 6: I never heard of this with theeff and thanks to

452
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Speaker 6: your program today this morning. I'm the first. This is

453
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Speaker 6: the first time being exposed to this. I'm in without

454
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Speaker 6: a doubt. Let me get my membership. I want to subscribe,

455
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Speaker 6: become a member. I'm down with this man. This is excellent.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: So question how much is the membership?

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Speaker 7: Go on?

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Speaker 6: Is it online? Garby Nation, and then follows the prompts

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Speaker 6: for the subscription. Is that correct sir?

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, yes, and let me explain.

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Speaker 8: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your insuran brother. Let's create a whole

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Speaker 5: new future. For our people. Now, what is it? Garby

465
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Speaker 5: built wanted to build a nation, and he knew that

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Speaker 5: you have a few ways that you could do it.

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00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 5: You could one astra donations because you gotta raise money.

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Speaker 5: Garby wanted a nation where every product, every service, everything,

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Speaker 5: and that's what we're building in time, our own banks,

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Speaker 5: insurance companies, sports, leagues, entertainment and just everything inside Garby

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Speaker 5: Nation for us, by us. Year by year, we just

472
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Speaker 5: keep adding and it's just started. We're a year old. Now.

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00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: We could charge taxes like most nations. We could ask

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Speaker 5: for donations like we could charge a big membership fee.

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Speaker 5: But Garvey laid it out a sanctury ago. He said, no,

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Speaker 5: get with black businesses that make their own products and

477
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Speaker 5: create jobs. Make a deal with them. We will have

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Speaker 5: our members. If they want to be a member, they'll

479
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Speaker 5: have to buy a product from any of you every month,

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Speaker 5: just one product a month from any of the black

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Speaker 5: businesses in the program, and in return share part of

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Speaker 5: your profits of what the business generates back with Garvi Nation.

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: So that basically, to be a citizen of Garvi Nation,

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Speaker 5: a supporter of garvination, a full member of Garvi Nation,

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Speaker 5: and participate in this great nation building game that we played.

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Speaker 5: It's nation building effort we're doing. All you got to

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Speaker 5: do is create a free account, first of all, and

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Speaker 5: then go to our online store, add any product from

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Speaker 5: any of the black businesses there at least ten points

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00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: or if the products check out, and when it checks

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Speaker 5: out or they'll ask you would you like to become

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Speaker 5: a supporter of the Nation, and you say yes. That

493
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: sets up a monthly order. You can change your order

494
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Speaker 5: to different products, you can cancel in any time. But

495
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: that buying black is what creates jobs. So it's not

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Speaker 5: a membership fee you pay to us directly. It's how

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Speaker 5: we feed our people and create jobs and get these

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Speaker 5: businesses booming all over the world. And that's how we're

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Speaker 5: recycling millions back into the race. How we're one of

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Speaker 5: the only black companies not only that have generated millions,

501
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Speaker 5: but have paid millions out to our own people. And

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Speaker 5: we're just getting started. So it's a pop.

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Speaker 6: Person I need to do is to go to the

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Speaker 6: website and then subscribe or buy a product. Yeah, create Nation,

505
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Speaker 6: just c yeah, garvnation dot com. You'll see everything right there.

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Speaker 6: Create a free account. Just take some minute and then uh,

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00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 6: that's where you're going to sign up to become a supporter.

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 6: And to be a supporter, it's just adding products to

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Speaker 6: your to your shopping cart at least ten points, could

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Speaker 6: be as little as twenty dollars, twenty thirty dollars, whatever,

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Speaker 6: and then you check out and it'll ask you would

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Speaker 6: you like to be a supporter to set up that

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Speaker 6: monthly order. That's what makes you a full member. And

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00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: once you're there, oh man, come on and participate every

515
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Speaker 6: day online with all the brothers and sisters around the

516
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Speaker 6: world that'll up. Just your participation will make you what

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Speaker 6: we call a full citizen, and you'll start earning.

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Speaker 5: From the nation. It's a whole entire nation building program

519
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 5: built right after what Marcus Garvey did one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna love it, brother, and we're gonna love having you.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm excited about it. To your guests, this is

522
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: like a modern day Black Wall Street. Yes, sir, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Right, thanks, Cliff. Twenty six away from the top of

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Speaker 1: a family that, of course, I guess they start to

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Speaker 1: say Delzo Wilson de barrio and it's what it's called

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Speaker 1: a garvination. Recycling black dollars it's a global event and

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Speaker 1: using the Internet to push it. But I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you this, Marcuscovey had his detractors and people look like

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Speaker 1: us who sold him out. We can't forget that. That's

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Speaker 1: part of his demise. Are you concerned us? Some people

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Speaker 1: may once they see how successful this is, as successful

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Speaker 1: as Marcus Goffy was, they tried to try to pull

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Speaker 1: it down and try to figure a way, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to make it, to make it fail. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any do you have any thoughts about that?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you're.

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Speaker 5: Always gonna have people who don't agree with anything you do.

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00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: You know, we've run into that our whole career. When

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Speaker 5: we started, we were at we had nothing, and when

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Speaker 5: we started breaking records, we broke every record in the

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Speaker 5: company we're in. We broke every record in the industry,

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Speaker 5: and we took the number one position in the game.

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Speaker 5: No blacks that ever produced what we have produced in

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Speaker 5: the marketing field. And so the whole way, we had

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Speaker 5: people telling us you never make it, you're wrong. You know,

547
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: you're trying to help black people and that's wrong. That's racist.

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00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's racist for us to help each other.

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Speaker 5: So It's beautiful when a Chinese unite and do something

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Speaker 5: for themselves. It's beautiful when the Italians get together and

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Speaker 5: do something for themselves, or you know, the Japanese get

552
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: together and build, or you have a little Italy, or

553
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Speaker 5: you know, it's beautiful when any group gets together and

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Speaker 5: works on behalf of their own people. But as black people,

555
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: it's somehow wrong because we should be serving the masters

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Speaker 5: that dragged us over here in the first place. No,

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Speaker 5: that's we don't subscribe to that. We don't agree to it.

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Speaker 11: You always have.

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Speaker 5: People who who they kind of feel that some but

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Speaker 5: we don't concern with that. What we do is we

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Speaker 5: unite and we produce, and our numbers and the success

562
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: and the wealth that we create for so many black

563
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: people around the world, it speaks for itself. This is

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Speaker 5: a successful action. Garvey was the most successful black person

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Speaker 5: uniting our people, empowering our people, creating jobs. Garvey had

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Speaker 5: over ten thousand black people working in Garvy businesses and

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Speaker 5: his government in ten years. No one has ever achieved.

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00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what black business since in America, at

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Speaker 5: the very least it employees over ten thousand black people,

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: and yet Garby had ten thousand people black people on

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: payroll one hundred years ago, so we're following the greatest

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00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 5: example of unity. This helps us become more responsible as

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00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: a people doing for ourselves. This gets us less reliant

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Speaker 5: on the government for assistance and welfare and all these

575
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: different kinds of things that are necessary. But we the

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Speaker 5: better thing is to get our people to a position

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 5: where we can do for self, stand on our own

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00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: two feet, create our own build our own businesses, buy

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Speaker 5: from our own people, become better citizens, you know, contributors

580
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: rather than takers. We can do it, man, but it

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00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: takes believing in each other and working together. So it's

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Speaker 5: not everyone's cup of tea, but for the people that

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Speaker 5: are here, it is a dream come true.

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Speaker 1: Right and hold that thought right there. We got to

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Speaker 1: check the news in our different cities and we come

586
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: back and learn more about garvin Nation. They produce their

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00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: own online store. They've got a video platform, e learning platform,

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00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: online school, news service, events, a marketing team, warehousing, shipping, business,

589
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: design team, and printing service. So if folks have a

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00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: business and they want to get involved globally anyway on

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00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: the planet with the Garvie Nation. When we come back

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00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: at Delz you know, tell us what they have to do. Family,

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00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: you too, got questions, just reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight to seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we'll take you phone calls after we check

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Speaker 1: the news in our different cities.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for waking up with us on this Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: sixteen minutes away from the top of day out with

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Speaker 1: our guest. He's an activist out of Atlanta. His name

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Speaker 1: is del Zino Wilson del Barrio, and he's created what

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Speaker 1: he called the Garviy Nation program model after Marcus Govey,

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Speaker 1: where dollars can recycle globally. Before we go back through

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Speaker 1: the elements, remind you. Coming up later this morning, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna speak at natro pathic doctor and holistic doctor doctor A.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got a health challenger or you know

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Speaker 1: someone who does, please please take advantage of our expertise.

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Speaker 1: Those of you who've been in the doctor's obvious these days,

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Speaker 1: you know what it's like even just try to get

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Speaker 1: an appointment at least even to speak to a doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you she's gonna do for free later

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Speaker 1: this morning, but before we speak to her, we're gonna, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna travel somewhat vicariously. We wear a traveler Kim

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Speaker 1: has She's gonna take us on a tour of Afro

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Speaker 1: Latino countries. It's gonna be interesting. And that's come up

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Speaker 1: late this morning and tomorrow we're gonna be joined by

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Speaker 1: a clinic of psychologist doctor jerome E.

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Speaker 7: Fox.

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Speaker 1: You know him from his best selling workbook Addicted to White,

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Speaker 1: The Oppressed in League with the Oppressor, a shame based alliance.

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Speaker 1: So make sure that you keep your radar locked in

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Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB if you are in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: If you are in the Washington, DC metropolitan here the

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Speaker 1: DMV run fourteen fifty WL. All right, Zeno, Brother G's

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Speaker 1: calling from the DC. Has a question for he's online

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Speaker 1: two grand rising Brother G. Question for Brother Tel Zeno.

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Speaker 12: Yes, I was just wondering, brother, how much has your

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Speaker 12: organization patting yourself after Ken Bridges and the marta movement

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Speaker 12: which Little Black Distribution Company established in the mid nineties.

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Speaker 12: That was a multi million dollar black distribution company. Are

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Speaker 12: you familiar with him? And did your organization patting yourself

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Speaker 12: after him in any way?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, what a great hero of brother Ken Bridges was.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you when I met Ken Bridges, I had

635
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Speaker 5: not known him, but he came to me. He came

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Speaker 5: to a convention that I was throwing when we were

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Speaker 5: breaking records in that other company, and I had probably

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Speaker 5: around five thousand black people in convention center, and he

639
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: came him and Al Wellington, his partner, to present Manta

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Speaker 5: to me. They were just starting They had an idea.

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Speaker 5: We were already uniting black people by the thousands at

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Speaker 5: that time. It was around nineteen ninety eight when he

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Speaker 5: came and I met the brother, but that's the only

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Speaker 5: time I ever met him, and it was then some

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Speaker 5: years later that we learned that he had been assassinated.

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Speaker 5: So I was definitely inspired by the vision that they

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Speaker 5: presented to me. I still have the proposal that they

648
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: gave me to try to ask me to leave that

649
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: what I was doing and then bring all my people

650
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: to join them, which was basically just them starting out

651
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: with the idea, and it just wasn't a good fit

652
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: at the time. But that brother, powerful, powerful, visionary, way

653
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 5: ahead of its time and right on path with what

654
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: we're doing here today. So all of our race, for sure.

655
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 12: One last question is by May you said, prior to

656
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 12: building the governation, you and your wife estaff you, we're

657
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 12: generating black millionaires before. What business was that that you

658
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 12: were producing black millionaires during that time?

659
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: We were there, Yeah, no problem, brother. We were a

660
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: member of a network marketing company called ACN. We joined

661
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety three. We became their top producers from

662
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four and stayed number one in that company

663
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: and broke all the records in the network marketing industry

664
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 5: into the two thousands, and that's when we left them.

665
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: By two thousand and four, we realized we couldn't free

666
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: black people being a part of a non black company.

667
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: We were earning pennies compared to the millions we were

668
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: bringing in. So we realized we were going to have

669
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 5: to take full responsibility and get together with our own

670
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: people and build something for ourselves where our race could

671
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 5: keep one hundred percent of everything. And that's the journey

672
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: that has let us through many projects, seminars all over

673
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: the world we've done and then commended twice by US

674
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: Congress or not commended but recognized, I should say, for

675
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: our work in educating black people, teaching seminars at universities,

676
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: all these different types of things, but it all leads

677
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 5: to here Marcus Garvey, who did way more than we've

678
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: ever done and left a blueprint, and we feel that

679
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: we're finally the place that we can apply all this

680
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: to finish this work and truly uplift our race.

681
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Brother G. Twof away from the

682
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: topic of brother G mentions Ken Bridges and we saw

683
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: what hammened to Ken Bridges, and again we know what

684
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: hammon to Marcus Govey, and I go back. That makes

685
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: me go back to the question that if you guys

686
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: really fortified your security, not just online, but your personal security,

687
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: because people don't want to see what you're doing, and

688
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: you already know this. They don't want to see this happening.

689
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: They don't want to see this that all of a

690
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: sudden that we've weaned off the baby bottled its black people,

691
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: we can survive without them. And that's what that was

692
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: cam Bridges was trying to do. That was Marcus god

693
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: was trying to do. This is what you're trying to do,

694
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and look what happened to them. So I'm just concerned

695
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: that if you've your personal security for you and your

696
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: family and also for the business security as well.

697
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we've we definitely take care of those things,

698
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: and we make sure that we are very very compliant

699
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: with all the laws. You know, we follow the philosophy

700
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: that you know, we we basically we keep everything in

701
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 5: a straight and narrow we work. We're very very transparent

702
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: about what we're doing, and you know, we take all

703
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 5: the necessary precautions and when they're you know, if and

704
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 5: ever when there are problems, you know, you have to

705
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: be proactive and stay ahead of it and all the

706
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: different kind of things. So you know, we we we

707
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 5: have very well studied the past movements of our people

708
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: and we know where we can run into problems like that,

709
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: and one of the ways is by just sticking to

710
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: our program. And you know, we're not interested in criticizing

711
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: the government and calling out or doing any things that

712
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 5: attract that kind of unwanted attention. We're trying to be

713
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 5: better citizens. We're trying to be better contributors. We want

714
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 5: to take responsibility as opposed to you know not. So

715
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 5: we're we're raising our people and doing it in a

716
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: very unique way, and we're doing it in a way

717
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: that Marcus Garvey taught us. He's the most successful at

718
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: doing this work. And yeah, we we feel very very

719
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 5: strongly about what we're doing and we've spent a lot

720
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: of time putting this together so that we we have

721
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: learned from our great ancestors, including Ken Bridges, amazing man

722
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: let the.

723
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: Other for the top down delse. You know, if I

724
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: have an idea, I'm in Memphish and I've gotten the

725
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: idea a plan for a business. I haven't kind of

726
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, figured it out yet, but I've got an

727
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: idea and I've gotten the outline a business plan. Can

728
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: you can you have help me if I want to

729
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: get my business on and the gooviy nation? How does

730
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that work?

731
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: What do I do.

732
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 13: Well?

733
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: We definitely have Like one of the things that we

734
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 5: feature here is a lot of education, and some of

735
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: it's even free. Like we have a seminar every month,

736
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 5: one of our recorded events that we do live and

737
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: then we offer a replay like this month, doctor Chico

738
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: Cool one of the greatest African centered historians in the world.

739
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: He did a seminar called the Majesty of the Moors.

740
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: The Moors Africans who ruled Spain from you know, seven

741
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: eleven AD to fourteen ninety two that seminar is so powerful,

742
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: so power packed. It's one of our most sought after things.

743
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 5: People buy it all the time, but it's free this month.

744
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: Is there anyone who creates a free account. You can

745
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: go to garvination dot com, create a free account and

746
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 5: watch that seminar. Now we have business seminars, business training.

747
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 5: We do everything we can now to supply products to

748
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: Garvy Nation though, which is you know, this incredible thing

749
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: like stri Kakula is one of our top you know,

750
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: six sigure money earners. Here we sell his products, his

751
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 5: black history products. We look for unique businesses because a

752
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 5: lot applible. We can only approve a few a year.

753
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 5: And the thing that we got to understand, Marcus Garvey

754
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 5: built this program to create jobs for black people, to

755
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 5: create factories to take to create industries, to put our

756
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: people to work. I would easily say ninety percent of

757
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 5: the black businesses who say, oh my god, Garb Nation

758
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 5: is incredible, can you sell my product? I would easily

759
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 5: say ninety percent don't make their products. They buy them

760
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: from China or Pakistan or Vietnam or some other country

761
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 5: and then put put their label on it. And that's

762
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 5: that doesn't fit our definition. We can't say if we

763
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: sell a million of those Chinese dresses, who gets the expertise,

764
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: who learns manufacturing, who gets all the money, who hires people?

765
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: All that's going to China. So here we work with

766
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 5: black businesses that actually make their own products, create it,

767
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: go through the time, because we're looking to do to

768
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: build a nation is to create expertise, to create production,

769
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 5: to take that one or two person business and turn

770
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: it into a twenty or thirty person business or two

771
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: or three hundred person business over time. So we have

772
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: a whole process. A person has to go through to

773
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: be approved to be a supplier of products. But once

774
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: you get an approved supplier, the whole nation now lines

775
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 5: up to buy from you. So it's a pretty powerful program.

776
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 6: And boyd we hold right.

777
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: There and help us once we've been approved. Now this,

778
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: of course, you got to market the product. Do you

779
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: help the new customers with marketing so the people will

780
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: know because it's kind of like the Internet. There's a

781
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: lot of stuff out there, but if you don't know

782
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: where it is, you want know where to find it,

783
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: don what to look for, So you help people like that.

784
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have our own marketing team, a marketing opportunity

785
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: that black people join and they get trained and they

786
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: earn tons of money marketing. Versus paying YouTube to run

787
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: the ads or Instagram to run ads, just basically taking

788
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 5: black money and handing it to a white company, we

789
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: don't do that here. We pay black people that are

790
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 5: part of our own marketing team sales commissions for every

791
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: person they refer. So we have people calling people all

792
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 5: over the world to let them know about Garb Nation

793
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: every day. And so by doing it ourselves, we gain

794
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: the expertise, we gain the knowledge, and all the money

795
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 5: stays in the race. And that's one of the main

796
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: ways we're able to recycle all these millions back into

797
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: the race because we do everything ourselves, even the marketing.

798
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: And yes, that's the key to bringing sales to black businesses.

799
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 5: Someone needs to tell them about it, tell them the benefits,

800
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 5: read them a success story, share with them the excitement

801
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: and how the product works and what people saying about it.

802
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: And so marketing is a big, big, big, big thing,

803
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 5: and we rather go through the hard thing of doing

804
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: it ourselves, and you know, and doing it this way

805
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 5: then just paying some other non black business to do

806
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: it for us, which just makes us completely dependent and

807
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: keeps us in the same place that we started five away.

808
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: From the top. There we'd come up on a break

809
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: where we've got to check the trafficing weather on different cities.

810
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: If you just waken up, family, I guess it's LZ.

811
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: Wilson de Barrio. He's an actress out of Atlanta, Georgia,

812
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: and he's was created what he called the Carving Nation

813
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: program or what it does, it's it's a place where

814
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: people like you and me who are listening to us

815
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: right now can go and shop if you need anything else.

816
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: And there is always services as well. I mean if

817
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: you're looking for an attorney or a dentist or a doctor,

818
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: is this a place to go as well? Or just goods?

819
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: Goods for now soon every single thing you can think of.

820
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: And that's the whole journey we have in this next decade.

821
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 5: What we're going to do together with all the members

822
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: of Garby Nation is going to shock the first is

823
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: that powerful in time justice Garbying to do one hundred

824
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: years ago. Every product, every service, everything that we produce,

825
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: everything that we consume, entertainment, arts, culture, anything that we

826
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: will take as a race and go to consume somewhere

827
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 5: else we're going to be doing with our own members,

828
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: including hopefully some of you that participate in Garby Nations.

829
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: Starting now, we're going to be producing everything under the

830
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 5: sun ourselves. So go to Garby Nation. You'll see what

831
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: we have right now from black businesses that actually make

832
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 5: their products. And we're constantly adding and adding and adding,

833
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: just sticking to the philosophy of Marcus Garvey. It's a

834
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 5: powerful in tremendous and keeps the money in the race.

835
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: All right, Hold that though, right there, we got to

836
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: check the traffic weather in O Diament says. When we

837
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: come back, though, tell us what product is moving the

838
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: fastest in garvination. What are our people buying more than

839
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: any other product? I love to hear that. Family, You

840
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: two can get in on this conversation with our guest

841
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: from the Garvy Nation. His name is del Zeno Wilson

842
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: de Barrio is out of Atlanta, and you can reach

843
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

844
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls after we

845
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: check the news, traffic and weather in not different cities.

846
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: That's next and grand rising family, and thanks for starting

847
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: your Wednesday with us and we're speaking with Atlanta activists

848
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: jal Zeno, Wilson de Barrio. It's got a program called

849
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: Garvi Nation program and on deck we moment Tary. You're

850
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: going to speak with Kim Haas he's world traveler. We're

851
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: going to take a tour of Afro Latino countries with Kim.

852
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: But let's finish up with del Zeno first, So brought

853
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: at del Zeno. My question to you before we left

854
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: for the traffic and weather update was what's the most

855
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: What product is moving the most for you? What are

856
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Black people buying or getting involved with most? From your side?

857
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: Oh, well, from garb Nation, we have a number of

858
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: products that are hugely popular. We have laundry detergents. For instance,

859
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: one is a powder laundry detergent that is hugely popular

860
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: by black family that puts it together. And then you

861
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: have another black family that has a wonderful factory and

862
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: they make a liquid laundry detergent, a fabric softener, and

863
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: those are flying. It's amazing to be able to support

864
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: these and have customers all over the world by them.

865
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: That was never happening like that before. We have a tremendous,

866
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 5: tremendous black made toothpaste that is out of this world.

867
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 5: It's called Zodi natural toothpaste. And members of the nation

868
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: of Yahweh have this whole entire production and they make

869
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: this toothpaste and no fluoride, no harmful chemicals, and brothers

870
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: and sisters love it all over the world. And so

871
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: it's just a beautiful thing to be able to bring

872
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: black people here to buy these products. We have a

873
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: skin conditioner for black skin. It's called Ebony Secret. You

874
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: literally it feels like silky water. You put some of

875
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: this in your hands, rub it on your face and

876
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: it clears up black skin issues, acne blemishes, scars, moles, keloids,

877
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 5: stretch marks, dark marks, old's feet, the wrinkles around the eyes.

878
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: They literally just start lessening, lessening, lessening with this all

879
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 5: natural skin condition assist. Some put on a stretch mark,

880
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 5: put it on things in the legs and there. It's

881
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: just amazing.

882
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 9: Uh.

883
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: And then our most popular product is Motherlands Gold Maringa.

884
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 5: Maringa is a treat that grows in Africa, now grows

885
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: in other parts of the world as well. It has

886
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: more nutrition nutrients in it than any other plant found

887
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: on Earth. You can literally google most nutritious plant you're

888
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 5: gonna get maringa. But this Motherland's gold maringa. It is ideal.

889
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 5: And when they came into our office and they presented

890
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: it to us, we had tried another brand that didn't

891
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 5: really do much and we denied them. But this one

892
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: they came in all grown in special volcanic soil under

893
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 5: ideal conditions, sprouting these leaves that were super nicse with nutrients,

894
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: the Motherlands gold maringa. Everyone in the office, on the

895
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 5: trial team had miracles and thousand, thousands and thousands and

896
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 5: thousands of bottles and these just fly off the shelves

897
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: because our people, you know, were deal with a lot

898
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: of illness in our race, and a lot of times

899
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 5: what our people don't realize is that we're not sick

900
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: because of a lack of drugs or medicines. Well, we're

901
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 5: sick because of a lack of nutrients. And if we're

902
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 5: eating food from salt that's been depleted and overmined and

903
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 5: round up this poured into it and all this kind

904
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 5: of harmful chemicals, well it's someone you get these leaves

905
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 5: from overseas, crush it into powder and now you can

906
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 5: buy capsules or bags of powder, or the tea bags

907
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: that we have, or we even have a liquid version

908
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: of it that you can just squeeze under your tongue.

909
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 5: We even put it in lotions and body washes. It's

910
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: the Motherland's gold maringa. These leaves are so powerful that

911
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: they're bringing nutrients. And you should read the success stories

912
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 5: that we're getting. So you can go to garbination dot

913
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 5: Com clicking buy Black Sear store and you'll see the

914
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 5: products and you can see the business owners who make

915
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: the products from all over the world.

916
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: All right, I thought that Cliff and Connective would call

917
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: us earlier, Elsie. You know, he says he just bought

918
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: some ginger tea, so he just wants you to know

919
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: he signed up already bought him some ginger tea. But

920
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: let me ask you this before I'll let you go though,

921
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: What is the quality control? How do we make sure

922
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: that these goods are what they are? Because you know,

923
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: we've always got some bad actors around who may be

924
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: trying to sell and pull willow some of the eyes

925
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: of some of our folks. How do you determine what's

926
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: real and what's memorys?

927
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's one of the things that was very

928
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: important to us when we started this, and so what

929
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: we did was we set up a whole entire review process,

930
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 5: you know, that we go through with every single person.

931
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 5: Because tons of people approach us right to us, apply

932
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: online where they can read about what we call our

933
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 5: supplier program. They want us to sell their products for them,

934
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: but we're very very strict. We only accept a few years,

935
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 5: and we have to go through a whole due diligence.

936
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: You know, we got to make sure they are what

937
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 5: they say they are. We got to make sure that,

938
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: you know, if we build a relationship with them, that

939
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: we're going to be able to grow it together. You know.

940
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: So we have to test every product they send. We

941
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: send it to testers, and we make sure you say

942
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: this is a here grow tream, it has to grow here.

943
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: You say this is gonna help, what a help, it

944
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 5: has to actually produce it. And so this is where

945
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: we deny and give recommendations to many companies who apply,

946
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: you know, to this is what you can do to

947
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: come up to this garbage standard. But when we approve

948
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 5: a company, it's because we've exhaustedly gone through everything and

949
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 5: really built a relationship with that person and their company

950
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 5: and tested all the products so that we can make

951
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: sure that we're bringing our people, black people the absolute

952
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: best on the market. Very important to.

953
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: Us and a big key great to hear before we

954
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: let you go. How can folks get involved in How

955
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: can they join the Gonvie Nation?

956
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: All right? Well, it's three easy steps. One go to

957
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: garb nation dot com all right, and there you can

958
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 5: literally just at the top click joint sign up and

959
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 5: become a member for free. You just create a free

960
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 5: account and that's more of like a look around and

961
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: kind of get a feel for it when you have

962
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 5: a free account. But once you really see the power

963
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: of what's going on there, you'll see the center of

964
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: the nation as our nation building game. That's the activity

965
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 5: that all the big numbers are doing every day. But

966
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 5: to get to that, you have to be what we

967
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: call a supporter, where you buy something from one of

968
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 5: the black businesses every month. So one create the free

969
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: account to read about supporter you can see it right there.

970
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 5: Or but go to our online store, add products to

971
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 5: your shopping cart, work at least ten points, and when

972
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 5: you're checking out, click yes, I want to become a supporter. Yes,

973
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 5: I want to become a supporter. Follow the directions and

974
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 5: now not only will your order ship to you tomorrow

975
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 5: or today, but you also now have a monthly ordered

976
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 5: and you can change to different products. You don't have

977
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: to buy the same product every month. You can cancel

978
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: it anytime. It's very very simple. But with that monthly order,

979
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 5: now you're a supporter. The third and last step, now

980
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 5: that you have your monthly order, that gets you into

981
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: the whole center of the nation that only supporters can see,

982
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 5: the nation building game. This is what Garvey was all about.

983
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 5: You go in there and that's where you see all

984
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 5: the other black people that are supporters all over the world.

985
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 5: And every day you log on for ten minutes, you know,

986
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 5: an hour if you want to, But log on and

987
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: do all the daily activities.

988
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 7: We have.

989
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 5: All these daily activities. Learn about Africa, learn about our history,

990
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 5: see a vision of the future. Every day. The visuals

991
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 5: are stunning, get inspired, communicate with black people all over

992
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 5: the world. And if you do the activities, you gain

993
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 5: points and your score goes up complete, you know, and

994
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 5: so it's a game. We're all working together to get

995
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 5: these high scores. And everybody that is what makes you

996
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: a full citizen of Garby Nation, So free account, then

997
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: become a supporter with the monthly order. Then participate and

998
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 5: become a citizen and help us build a nation that

999
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 5: Marcus Garvey dreamed of one hundred years ago. And you

1000
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 5: also earn now that you're a citizen. So it's it's

1001
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: a beautiful program. I look forward to seeing you online

1002
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 5: and helping you to embrace this new world of possibilities

1003
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: of what we as black people can do. We're an

1004
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: awesome people. We have great potential and it's now time

1005
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 5: for us to unite and lift ourselves up by our

1006
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 5: own bootstraps.

1007
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: You got that right, Thank you, Dels. Don't keep us

1008
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: in the loop man, keep us updated on how things

1009
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: are going.

1010
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 5: Yes, sir Shure Will my dear brother, thank you for

1011
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 5: the time.

1012
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: All right, family, that's activist. Else you know Wilson de

1013
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: Barrio And if you called gombination program, just google it

1014
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: and you understand what he's been trying to say all

1015
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: morning long. Next step, don't let's bring it on that

1016
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: guest Kim has and grand rising Kim, welcome to the program.

1017
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Good morning, all right, hold on nada my Spanish that

1018
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: I got, you know, growing up in the Bronx and

1019
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: you get to load the Spanish because we have a

1020
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of Puerto Rican friends. But family this is I guess.

1021
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: There's Kim Haas and Kim. Kim's a world travel if

1022
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: you will, and she's going to take us to some

1023
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: of the Afro Latino countries. You know, a lot of

1024
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: times we're for Latino brothers and sisters and we don't

1025
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: get to interact with them because of the language barrier.

1026
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: We're competing over a white person's language. For us, it's English,

1027
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: for them it's Spanish, but it's still not our language.

1028
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: And language, one great scholar told me, is the cornerstone

1029
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: of our culture. So that's one of the things that

1030
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: we don't have as a people, a universal language that

1031
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: if you're in Haiti, for Angola, you're free in London,

1032
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: if you're in Brazil, if you're black, you can we

1033
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: can communicate with each other. That's so I'm sort of

1034
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: jealous of the Haitians because they've got their creole language.

1035
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: They can they can have the conversations with themselves. But Kim,

1036
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: before I go any further, give us some of your background.

1037
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: How did you get started doing this, Oh boy, thank.

1038
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 11: You and thank you so much for having me. And

1039
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 11: as I said, good morning, Bonzia, good morning in Portuguese

1040
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 11: to our listeners. So you know, I tell the story

1041
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 11: that my grandmother, Cassie took me to She was originally

1042
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 11: from South Carolina and she loved to travel, and she

1043
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 11: grew up in the segregated South, and she loved to travel.

1044
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 11: And what I love about my grandmother is that she

1045
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 11: didn't let you know her upbringing in the South, the

1046
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 11: segregated South, limiting views of who and where people of

1047
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 11: African sent African Americans could go and what they could do.

1048
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 11: I mean, she didn't allow those to really think into

1049
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 11: her psyche and she loved to travel. And so when

1050
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 11: I was six or seven, she took me to Acapulico, Mexico,

1051
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 11: and I remember being in the hotel lobby and someone

1052
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 11: stranger came up to me and said, would you like

1053
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 11: to learn how to count your numbers? One to twenty

1054
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 11: uno avente in Spanish? And so I was like sure,

1055
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 11: And I say, from that moment on, I was hooked.

1056
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 11: I wanted more Spanish, more language, more travel. I couldn't

1057
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 11: wait to go to the next place to go with

1058
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 11: my grandmother, and I just loved. From that moment on,

1059
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 11: I was just in love with travel. And I wonder

1060
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 11: how many of your listeners, you know, feel the same way.

1061
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 11: Got bitten by the travel bug and you just you

1062
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 11: want to soak up every experience and culture and meet

1063
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 11: so many wonderful people. And so that's what happened. And

1064
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 11: so from that moment on, I studied Spanish in elementary

1065
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 11: school and middle school and high school, and I was

1066
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 11: a Spanish major in undergraduate school. And I lived in

1067
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 11: Spain duringior year in college, and I studied Spanish in

1068
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 11: graduate school. So I really at this point can't remember

1069
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 11: a time in my life when I wasn't connected to

1070
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 11: Spanish and involved in travel.

1071
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen half the tough day family. Kime Houses she's

1072
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: a world travel if you will. But she's going to

1073
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: take us on the tour of Afrol Latino countries. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's part of the daspar the brothers and sisters who

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Speaker 1: speak Spanish. You know, for us, it's it's just Spanish.

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Speaker 1: But from what I understand, there's some different dialects in

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Spanish is different from the Mexican Spanish, from

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Speaker 1: other countries who speak Spanish. Is there any truth to

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Speaker 1: that it came and can you tell the difference?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so that's really interesting what you just mentioned. Yes,

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Speaker 11: so just like we'll give an example, maybe this will

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Speaker 11: help people. Just like with English, right, so we have

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Speaker 11: a version of English that we speak in the United States,

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00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 11: and if you go to London, if you go to England,

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00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 11: there may be in general you can understand someone from

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 11: Great Britain, but they're going to be words and maybe

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00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 11: their accent is different from ours. Right, So it's the

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 11: same kind of thing. Or if you go to Jamaica,

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 11: you know they're speaking English too, but they are going

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00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 11: to be words vocabulary saying that that we may not understand,

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 11: but in general you can understand one another. So it's

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00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 11: that same kind of thing. So in Latin America, any

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00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 11: Spanish speaking country in general, usually they can understand someone

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00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 11: from you know, Puerto Rico, can understand someone from Uruguay

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Speaker 11: or someone from Mexico. That there are going to be nuances,

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Speaker 11: there are going to be words vocabulary that are going

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Speaker 11: to be different. And that's what makes I think travel

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Speaker 11: also very interesting and learning from other people is that

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 11: you don't have to let those things that are different,

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Speaker 11: make them things that hold us back from getting to

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Speaker 11: connect with each other. Take it as an opportunity to learn,

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Speaker 11: and that's what I think makes travel so interesting.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise we're all just the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I be boring, wouldn't it? But let me ask

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Speaker 1: you ask you this, Kim, how do you deal with

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00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: the slang though? Because we've got slang here in English,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they got this slang in Spanish and

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Speaker 1: Cuban slang probably different, Dominican Republic slang and Puerto Rican slang.

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Speaker 1: So help us out. How do you deal with that

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Speaker 1: when you travel to these different areas? And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what I'm looking at the clock. We got to

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Speaker 1: take a short break and we come back. I'll let

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Speaker 1: you respond to that.

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Speaker 3: Family.

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Speaker 1: You two can get in our conversation with our guests

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Speaker 1: and Kim HAPs she's just sort of a world traveler

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Speaker 1: and she's taking us on a tour of Afro Latino

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Speaker 1: countries this morning as we continue to unite the Dashpora.

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Speaker 1: You can reach her at eight hundred four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take it phone

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Speaker 1: calls next. Grand Rising family, Thanks for starting your Wednesday

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Speaker 1: with us, it's twenty minutes after the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We've got world traveling with us. So traveler Kim has

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Speaker 1: and she travels to all these Latin American countries, the

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Speaker 1: Afro Latinos, and it makes a connection as we continue

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Speaker 1: to unite the dash Bora so Kim. Before we left

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Speaker 1: for the break, I was asking you about the slang

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Speaker 1: if you're speaking with a Mexicano or Cubano or what

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Speaker 1: a Rican, they've got that and they won't their own slang,

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Speaker 1: especially the young people the street signing, I mean change

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Speaker 1: its just like wait, do can you pick that up?

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Speaker 1: Is it easy for you to pick that up?

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Speaker 14: When you have in these conversations so it's you know,

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Speaker 14: you're it's so interesting that you mentioned it.

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Speaker 11: Then it depends, and sometimes I will prior to going

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Speaker 11: to a country, you know, I'll ask people from the country,

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Speaker 11: especially if I know you know certain people, I'll ask them,

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Speaker 11: are there words? Are there sayings that I want to

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Speaker 11: stay away from? Or tell me what you know it's

1140
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 11: commonly what are some of the common terms now or

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01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 11: slang that's used, And especially if I want to make

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Speaker 11: sure that I'm not saying something offensive because there could

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 11: be a word that in one country and I was thinking,

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 11: you know, may mean something that is fine and normal,

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01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 11: and if you use it in another country, it could

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01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 11: be something totally offensive. So a lot of times I'll

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Speaker 11: ask prior to traveling are their words? Are there sayings

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Speaker 11: that I want to stay away from? Or are there

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 11: hot topics so things that I need to know about

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 11: in advance when speaking with you know people, So there's

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Speaker 11: the preparation that you do prior to travel. But you're

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Speaker 11: absolutely correct.

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Speaker 8: I mean, just like we have you know in the

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Speaker 8: United States.

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Speaker 11: Here words and slang and terminology that people are using

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Speaker 11: that changes. Remember all this be evolved and there are

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Speaker 11: terms and slang that I would use or maybe you

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 11: know people in my generation that now say, my daughter,

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Speaker 11: I mean, she looks at me like, wait, what are

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Speaker 11: you saying?

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Speaker 10: Well, what word is that you know?

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Speaker 11: So it's the same thing. Language vocabulary evolves and changes,

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Speaker 11: and you see the same thing in Latin America, and

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Speaker 11: you know in Spanish for example, or in Portuguese in

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Speaker 11: Brazil and so and just as a reminder to those

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Speaker 11: that remember, in Brazil people speak Portuguese and not Spanish.

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Speaker 1: True, And I've been to Brazil. Had a great time

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Speaker 1: in Brazil twenty two half the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this though, because uh, Trump

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: was speaking to Celensky and he kept telling you don't

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Speaker 1: have the cards. You didn't have the cards, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he thought Celencia understood what he meant. But that's

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Speaker 1: a phrase for it when the bills saying like kick

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Speaker 1: the bucket and all that kind of things. But because

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Speaker 1: you it's not your first language, you interpreted literally. So

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Speaker 1: he was thinking of cards. So we were not playing cards,

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Speaker 1: you know, but he did it went over his head

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Speaker 1: and Trump was, you don't have the car here? What

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Speaker 1: is he talking about? You know, he's thinking about a

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Speaker 1: deck of cards.

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Speaker 7: So is that is that?

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Speaker 1: Do you even have that issue too in the in

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Speaker 1: the Spanish speaking Latino countries?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 11: I mean, as as you said, someone who is not

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Speaker 11: a native speaker, there are always words and phrases that

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Speaker 11: I'm going to learn because I didn't grow up in

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Speaker 11: a Latin American and a Spanish speaking country. So absolutely,

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Speaker 11: and you know what you just learned by doing and

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Speaker 11: by speaking. There's no other way to get around it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you have to put yourself out there and

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Speaker 11: so for any of our listeners who are either learning

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Speaker 11: Spanish or learning Portuguese in particular because of Latin America,

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Speaker 11: or you're thinking about just learning another language. That's just

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Speaker 11: an example of And it happens all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it happens to me still, you know, after all these

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Speaker 11: years of traveling, because I'm not a native speaker, there

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Speaker 11: are always words and sayings that I'm going to learn,

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Speaker 11: and sometimes you do. You find yourself in situations where

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Speaker 11: you might say something or you just don't understand, or you,

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Speaker 11: like you said, may take something literally because of someone

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Speaker 11: the way they're speaking or what they've said, when you're

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Speaker 11: not realizing that it has a totally different significance because

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Speaker 11: you didn't grow up in the language. And so and

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Speaker 11: it's okay.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think if you go in with the

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Speaker 4: idea that you're there to learn, that you have some humility,

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Speaker 4: that you're not going there as hey, I'm from the

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Speaker 4: United States, and whatever I say goes, and you know

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Speaker 4: that you're there to go and experience and learn, and

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Speaker 4: you will have I think an amazing time.

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Speaker 11: And if you learn just a few words, I think

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Speaker 11: that goes a long way. If people see that you're trying,

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Speaker 11: and that you stay oh lah or good morning, buenos

1215
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Speaker 11: bis or good afternoon in Portuguese botargi, and you know,

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Speaker 11: thank you, gracias over to God. That goes a long way,

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Speaker 11: and you listen, people appreciate it. My general, you know,

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Speaker 11: sense and feeling after years of traveling is that people

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Speaker 11: just appreciate you trying and that you don't just go

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Speaker 11: there speaking English and speak English, and you know, even

1221
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 11: if you're visiting a Latin American country. So I think

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Speaker 11: all those things make a great difference. And people see

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Speaker 11: that you're learning and that you don't know, you're not

1224
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Speaker 11: going to know everything, and that's okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five the Tom Dawn family. You want to get

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Speaker 1: in on this conversation we're talking about after Latia, you know, countries.

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Speaker 1: Now you can reach us at eight hundred four five

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Speaker 1: zero eight seventy six, and Kim, let's take a tour

1229
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Speaker 1: some of the country. Let's start in the Dominican Republic

1230
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Speaker 1: the DR, because I understand that many other people in

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Speaker 1: the DR they feel that they're Spanish first and Black second.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you got when you visit it there?

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Speaker 11: Yes, that's what I got, And well, let me say this,

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Speaker 11: let me clarify, So the Dominican Republic, each country has

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Speaker 11: a very you know, their own unique culture and their

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Speaker 11: own and I'll start. Let me just go back a

1237
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Speaker 11: little bit. So people often ask, oh, well, or they'll say, like,

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Speaker 11: the Dominican Republic is kind of known for denying its

1239
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 11: African roots. That's not every Dominican is not going to

1240
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Speaker 11: be very clear about that, but in general, there is

1241
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Speaker 11: a sense of denial.

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Speaker 7: There is.

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Speaker 11: You can see someone who you know, scenotypically looks like

1244
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 11: they're of African descent. Obviously for me, I'm a dark

1245
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 11: skinned black woman, and if you saw me on the street,

1246
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 11: you would say, oh, you know, a black woman. But

1247
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 11: in the Dominican Republic there is a great sense, again

1248
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 11: generalizing of denial of their African roots.

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Speaker 5: So many will.

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Speaker 11: Claim to be Indian, Kayino, the Indians of that area,

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Speaker 11: or I don't know, some other but not black. Let's

1252
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 11: just say anything else but not black. And I remember

1253
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 11: years ago, and I was just talking to someone from

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Speaker 11: the Dominican Republics, a young woman the last week, and

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Speaker 11: we're talking about actually developing a tour that centers around

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Speaker 11: the country's African roots and What I love is that

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Speaker 11: she is found to be black and she wants to

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Speaker 11: spread the goodness of that in her country and let

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Speaker 11: people know that. The country has some work to do,

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 11: no doubt about it. But there are people and communities

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Speaker 11: there in the Dominican Republic who are working.

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Speaker 7: To do that.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 11: What I think in the Dominican Republic because of its

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Speaker 11: history and each you know, each country has, you know

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Speaker 11: its history with Spain as being a former colony. Remember

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Speaker 11: how people of African descent back to Latin America is

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Speaker 11: through the Transatlantic slave Route. So while I think in

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Speaker 11: the United States, so many of us realize are learned

1270
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Speaker 11: about the history of kidnapping people of African descent Africans

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Speaker 11: from Africa, mostly the western coast of Africa during the

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Speaker 11: Translantic slave Route. So fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred, seventeen eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 11: the great majority of people of African descent went of

1274
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Speaker 11: Africans went to Latin America, the Caribbean, Central America, Latin America,

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 11: so twelve the twelve percent went to what is North America,

1276
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Speaker 11: the United States and eventually Canada, but the great majority

1277
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 11: went to Latin America, Central America, Caribbean that region. So

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Speaker 11: that's why you have so many people who are African descent,

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01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 11: and you can see it in their hair, in their

1280
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 11: facial features, the color of their skin, and so many

1281
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Speaker 11: attributes of what we consider someone of African descent. And

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Speaker 11: so that's how number one people got there.

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Speaker 8: So I just want to give some context to that.

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Speaker 11: But in the Dominican republics, for example, which you were

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Speaker 11: asking about, because of the history the dictatorship through Heil

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Speaker 11: who denied, heavily denied people of African descent, over time,

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Speaker 11: the country has just completely denied its African roots. And

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Speaker 11: then being on the border and having sharing Hispaniola with Haiti,

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Speaker 11: to remember, Medican Republic and Haiti share that island. There

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Speaker 11: is just tremendous. It's just saddening of treatment of Patians.

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Speaker 11: There's a massacre of Haitians many years ago. And so

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Speaker 11: there is a very prevalent anti blackness in the Dominican Republic. Again,

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Speaker 11: it's not all Dominicans, so I want to be very

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Speaker 11: clear about it, but it is pervasive. But at the

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Speaker 11: same time, we are seeing over the years a lot

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Speaker 11: of people who are saying, you know, hey, I am

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Speaker 11: black and I am proud of it and sharing the

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Speaker 11: goodness because what I like to talk about is so

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Speaker 11: much of what people enjoy in Latin America comes from

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Speaker 11: people of African descent, comes from the enslaved Africans their

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Speaker 11: descendants creating tremendous culture and also not just a culture

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Speaker 11: in terms of the arts, cuisine, but the infrastructure. And

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Speaker 11: I can get into that as well. So I put

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Speaker 11: I often put countries on a spectrum in terms of

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Speaker 11: their awareness consciousness of being black, of having African roots,

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Speaker 11: Afro descending communities, and unfortunately the Dominican republics I put

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Speaker 11: on one end in terms of just a general denial.

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Speaker 11: But things are changing. And if I could just add

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Speaker 11: one thing I just saw the other day, and I

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Speaker 11: was just speaking yesterday and I just saw the other day.

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Speaker 11: Last week, I was in the subway in Manhattan and

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Speaker 11: I saw the Dominican Republic. Domini Kana was the promotion

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Speaker 11: and they have built they had posters all along the

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Speaker 11: subway and it was so wonderful to see on these

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Speaker 11: images throughout the subway of people who were obviously black

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Speaker 11: as part of this, and I think it.

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Speaker 13: Was Domini Kanas.

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Speaker 11: And then it's say Dominican Republic and something like it

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Speaker 11: smiles that you are smile back at you. And people

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Speaker 11: that I would have never seen featured in ads who

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Speaker 11: look like people have obviously African descent. So the Dominican

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Speaker 11: Republic would you know, invariably just promote white people. And

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Speaker 11: finally I was seeing in promotion black people and it

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Speaker 11: was it was I was astonished.

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Speaker 8: I stopped that, you know, it took.

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Speaker 11: A look again and they were beautiful, and so that.

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Speaker 15: Was great to see.

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Speaker 11: And we could talk about, you know, perhaps the reasoning

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Speaker 11: behind this, but at.

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Speaker 14: Least in terms of images, there was a change all

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Speaker 14: right twenty eight away from the top there our family,

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Speaker 14: Kim Houses, I guess then we're talking about Afro Latinos

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Speaker 14: and markat Anaheim send many question for you, Kim.

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Speaker 1: And before that, let me just you know, most of

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Speaker 1: the folks who listened to this program already know that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the brothers and sisters in the Caribbean or

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Speaker 1: in South America, even if they speak Spanish. You know,

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Speaker 1: we all took the same trip with just different ships,

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Speaker 1: and so we stopped at different ports, so we understand that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if that most of those in

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Speaker 1: the in those Latino Afro Latinos understand that. Did you

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Speaker 1: think that, say, for example, the Cubanos or the Haicanos,

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Speaker 1: they did they embrace the blacks in their in their countries?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you tell when you visit?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: No, I'm so glad that again that you mentioned that.

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Speaker 11: And I think this speaks to education, right, and this

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Speaker 11: speaks to education over generations and one of the challenges

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Speaker 11: in Latin America.

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Speaker 5: I remember, each.

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Speaker 11: Country has its own history. So some countries, like you

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Speaker 11: were asking about the Dominican Republic, have and most of

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Speaker 11: them have some sort of denial at some point about

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Speaker 11: you know, their blackness and their afric community. So but

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Speaker 11: some countries moved either faster or making the change to honors, celebrate, recognize,

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Speaker 11: give more resources to these communities because just like in

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Speaker 11: the United States, unfortunately, black communities in Latin America are

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Speaker 11: economically tend to be the most disadvantaged on the lower

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Speaker 11: echelon spectrums in terms of economic viability, so health outcomes

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Speaker 11: and indicators. Again, but there's so many similarities between you know,

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Speaker 11: what's happening in Salvador in Brazil, the communities in Louisa

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Speaker 11: and Puerto Rico, these black communities in Santiago, Cuba. So

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Speaker 11: often these communities, black communities, predominantly black communities, are unfortunately

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Speaker 11: experiencing lower educational levels, outcomes, health indication. So we see

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Speaker 11: that time and time again. But there are throughout the

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Speaker 11: Die Asked For Latin America movement and people making great

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Speaker 11: strives to make changes to support their communities. And that's

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Speaker 11: and that's really wonderful to see. So it's evolving. I mean,

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Speaker 11: just like humanity, society evolves in the United States and

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Speaker 11: we're evolving it involved it's an evolution in Latin America

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Speaker 11: as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I got some twet up questions for your

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Speaker 1: twenty six Away from the Top. They are with Kim Housen.

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Speaker 1: Kim travels of these Afro Latino countries and father report.

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Speaker 1: We sort of traveled with her vicariously. Of the first

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Speaker 1: tweet I got was about Bad Bunny. Please ask your

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Speaker 1: guest her thoughts on Bad Bunny's performance of the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and how did that go over it with Afro Latinos.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I can't I can't speak to how it

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Speaker 11: went over with Afro Latinos because you know, remember after

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Speaker 11: Latinos again, just like asking Americans are not a monolith.

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Speaker 8: I can say that.

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Speaker 11: I think in general there is great pride and you know,

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Speaker 11: Bad Bunny is from Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a

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Speaker 11: very rich Afro Puerto Rican tradition and culture, and I

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Speaker 11: think Puerto Ricans in general are one of the proudest

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Speaker 11: people that I've ever met, I think across the planet.

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Speaker 11: When you think about people who have a pride in

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Speaker 11: their country and culture, I think of Puerto Ricans right

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Speaker 11: up there at the top. In terms of how he

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Speaker 11: was received, I think, and I want to be very

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Speaker 11: careful because I just cannot speak to you know, how

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Speaker 11: Afro Latinos view him, But I think he in his

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Speaker 11: in the presentation, there are a lot of aspects if

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Speaker 11: you've seen him in concert, I have not seen him

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Speaker 11: in concert, but he features from what I've seen in

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Speaker 11: terms of footage, Bomba dancers, and Bomba is an Afro

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Speaker 11: Puerto Rican dance and you is ex form and he

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Speaker 11: includes that in his concert. So the footage that I've

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Speaker 11: seen in his concerts, So you know, there's.

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Speaker 8: A lot around.

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Speaker 11: I guess you know Bad Bunny and Ice and you

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Speaker 11: know all of that. But in terms of just I

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Speaker 11: think how Puerto Ricans view him. I think there's a

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Speaker 11: great side in terms of how he's viewed there. I'm

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Speaker 11: just not that well versed in bad Bunny, so I

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Speaker 11: just I can't speak to it.

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Speaker 1: But so much musical generation. Hold on Thoughay that Kim

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Speaker 1: a twenty three away from the top that I've got

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Speaker 1: some tweet questions from Kim. Got one from mar from Anheim,

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Speaker 1: one from Darren as well. Family, you can speak to

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Speaker 1: her directly when we're talking about Afro Latinos. She traveled

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Speaker 1: the country's Jesus and these different countries in our region,

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Speaker 1: and you know how to reach her. Eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take a phone

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Speaker 1: calls after we check the news. That's next and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for starting on Wednesday with us. It's

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Speaker 1: a hump day. That means we're halfway through the work.

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Speaker 1: Weick with our guess that Kim hoas before we go

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Speaker 1: back to Kim.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Kim's taking us on the journey of

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Speaker 1: Afro Latino country before we go back to Adela. Got

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Speaker 1: to offer our condolences to the family friends of Reverend

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Speaker 1: Graylyn Hagar Plymouth Plymouth Congressional of the United Church in

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Speaker 1: Northeast Washington, d C. Reverend Hager made his transition. On Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: repend Hagar's Church was hosted our first power Talk conference,

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Speaker 1: you know, where our scholars met up with doctor Claude Andison,

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Speaker 1: doctor Greg Great, Tony Browner, doctor Francis Gresse, Welson, Ormark Johnson.

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Speaker 1: They're all there and I'm probably missing a few folks

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Speaker 1: as well. But the first time we did and he

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Speaker 1: accommodated us real real well because he was reigning. I

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Speaker 1: remember that day and he came out and help us

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Speaker 1: get the folks inside for the conference to get it started.

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Speaker 1: So again, our condolences because I know he's a past

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Speaker 1: emeritus of Plymouth. Condolences to the church as well before

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Speaker 1: were gone. We kim also want to remind you coming

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Speaker 1: up later this morning, we're gonna speak with natural Paddic

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Speaker 1: doctor and also she's also a traditional doctor. You know

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Speaker 1: she where's the White coach as well. So if you

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01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: got a health challenge, and you know somebody who has

1442
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: a health challenge, please please I employ take advantage of

1443
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: our expertise. You tried to speak to a doctor these days,

1444
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: you get five or ten minutes and then you're out.

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: Somebody else is up next. But she can help you

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: with it, and you help you read the traditional way,

1447
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, the pharmaceutical way or the holistic way. She

1448
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: can help it both ways. So she's coming up later

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Speaker 1: this morning and tomorrow clinical psychologist doctor Jeremy Fox will

1450
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: be here. So if you're in Baltimore and make sure

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01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: you're radious lotting tied on ten ten WLB. If you're

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01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: in the Washington DC ERA run in the DMV around

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen WL. All right, Kim, as mentioned, I got

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Speaker 1: some tweets for you as well, and I got one

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Speaker 1: from markam Manheim. I don't know once. The one from Darren.

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Speaker 1: Darren's tweet says, please ask your guests, has there been

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Speaker 1: any black civil rights movement in any Central and South

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Speaker 1: American country by blacks there?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so thank you and thanks for that question. So

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Speaker 11: I think in the sense of what we're used to

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Speaker 11: in the United States of particularly the sixties, right, that's

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Speaker 11: what we often think that down in terms of the

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Speaker 11: civil rights movement, But that was also a build up

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Speaker 11: right in the United States, and we don't necessarily see

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Speaker 11: something like that in Latin America. You can remember, countries

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Speaker 11: are different, and so the way that what you see now,

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Speaker 11: for example, and over the years, is been a heightened

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Speaker 11: awareness of and for the years that I've been traveling

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Speaker 11: to Latin America, I definitely see more and more people

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Speaker 11: in the various countries promoting Afro Brazilian culture, Afro Cuban culture,

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Speaker 11: Afro Puerto Rican culture, Afro Equadorian culture. So while there

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Speaker 11: wasn't per se a civil rights movement like we have

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Speaker 11: here in the United States, there's a movement of a

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Speaker 11: different kind where I think there's just a growing sense

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Speaker 11: of Latin America's African roots in general, and so countries

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Speaker 11: expressed that differently. And so you can see in Brazil,

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Speaker 11: for example, you know that there is movement and with

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Speaker 11: the current president Lula, who I guess like the equivalent

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Speaker 11: of Biden, right and so pride to Lula. Then there

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Speaker 11: was Bulscenaro, who's equivalent to kind of like Trump, and

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Speaker 11: then Lula beforehand, so it kind of went back and forth,

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Speaker 11: just like in the United States. And so with Lula,

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Speaker 11: who's been very supportive, much more supportive, let me say,

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Speaker 11: of Afro Brazilian culture, and ministers who are black and

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Speaker 11: so there's people in all of these countries who are

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Speaker 11: doing the work and who have been doing the work.

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Speaker 11: But I think now between social media where people can

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Speaker 11: take things. You know, you don't have to wait for

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Speaker 11: a television crew to come film something you're doing.

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Speaker 8: You know, you can.

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Speaker 11: Promote your activities and events. You'll see curriculum in certain countries,

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Speaker 11: many of them have it on the books that Afro

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Speaker 11: Latino culture needs to be part of the curriculum, like

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Speaker 11: is go back to Brazil again, But is it actually

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Speaker 11: implemented that takes That's another step. So while there wasn't

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Speaker 11: so much in these countries an actual specific movement like

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Speaker 11: in the United States when we think about but there

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Speaker 11: are people, there are leaders who are doing the work,

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Speaker 11: who are working to advance equality throughout Latin America. And

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Speaker 11: that's one of the things that we talk about and

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01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 11: we feature in our PBS travel series Afro Latino Travels

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01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 11: with Kim Hawks is we'll talk about the historians and

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01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 11: what's happening in the country and give people context. So

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 11: every country, as I said, is different. So our first

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 11: episodes were shot in Costa Rica and I'm so glad

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 11: that the previous segment was talking about Marcus Garvey and

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01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 11: the Garby Nation, and so we feature we have historical

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 11: background and information about Marcus Garvey and his time in

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 11: Costa Rica. So he was in Limone. So I don't

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01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 11: know if any of your listeners, if they've been to

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,879
Speaker 11: Costa Rico, are thinking about going to Costa Rica. Marcus

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01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 11: Garvey had a presence in Limon on the Caribbean coast.

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01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 11: He worked at the United Fruit Company, and so there's

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01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 11: that back and forth between Jamaica and Costa Rica, which

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01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 11: is fascinating, I mean just fascinating. So if you're in

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01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 11: Limon on the Caribbean coast, you can see so many

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 11: people from Limon. Their ancestry dates goes back to Jamaica

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01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 11: and then obviously Jamaicans and Africa. But so many people

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01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 11: from Limon trace their roots and talk about Jamaica as

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01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 11: their homeland. And that's because Jamaican's left kind of the

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 11: American dream, right. They left Jamaica early nineteen hundreds looking

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01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 11: for opportunity, looking for jobs and work and went to

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01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 11: Costa Rica, went to Panama, helped build the Panama Canal.

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01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 11: So there's just all this travel intermingling immigration, migration back

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 11: and forth, which is really fascinating. And we talk about

1526
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 11: that in Aple Latino Travels, which airs on PBS and

1527
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 11: you can also catch it on creatv TV, which is

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01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 11: PBS's travel and lifestyle channel.

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01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: All right, before you go, I'll let you give that

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01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: information again. Yeah, because you want to see it on

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: the screen. Ten away from the top House, I mentioned MARKA.

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01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Manheim sent a tweet for you. It's kind of like

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01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: a long tweet, So follow me, Kim. He says, hello

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,959
Speaker 1: for us, and he says, and these one actually recommended

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: that we have you on. He says that all of

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01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: the black female serfs he has coached mented hail from

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01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: the Caribbean, Central and South America, and like what folks

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01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: from the sixteen nineteen project, the first permanent black settlers

1539
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: in what is now the US were from Barbados. He

1540
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: goes on to say before sixteen nineteen, Barbados had become

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01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: overpopulated with slave on us and they sure came plantations.

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01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: He adds that the San Miguel Guadeloupe Colony was creating

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01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: the early fifteen hundreds is what is now Georgetown County

1544
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: in South CA Carolina. It's as the white fort amongst themselves,

1545
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: and many black slaves escaped and lived with nearby Native

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01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: indigenous people in South Carolina. The white settlers who survived

1547
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: decided to leave, and the black slaves who had not

1548
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: already escaped decided to remain. Consequently, they were blacks and

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: black Native indigenous people here in what is now the

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01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: US long before sixteen nineteen, which makes them the first

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01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 1: black permanent residence. And his question is does your traveling

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01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: see provide this kind of black history to your clients

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01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: who visit the Caribbean, Central and South America.

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01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, thank you, And I think thank Michael for

1555
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 11: Mark from Anaheim for this, for the recommendation, and for

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 11: referring us. And so I think there's so many ways

1557
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 11: that you can experience and learn about the culture of

1558
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 11: the different countries. One is it's come with us on

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01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 11: a tour. So we are going to Guatemala in May.

1560
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 11: And so for any of your listeners who whether you've

1561
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 11: thought about Guatemala, let me just say this is whatever

1562
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 11: you may have heard about Guatemala in the past, and

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01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 11: I'm guessing it probably was negative, maybe not, But you

1564
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,839
Speaker 11: can come with us and you'll see a totally different country.

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01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 11: Than what you've probably heard on the news. It's absolutely gorgeous.

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01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 11: We in the same example of Guatemala focus on a

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 11: little bit more on the indigenous population of Maya culture,

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01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 11: which is amazing. And then we also have some an

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Speaker 11: activity with a Gharifuna and the Gharihuna are people of

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01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 11: African descent, African and indigenous discerent in Guatemala, meaning Guatemala

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01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 11: has primarily a living spin on the Caribbean coast, a Gdyfuna,

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01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 11: a black community, and so we talk about we give

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01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 11: historical context in terms of how people of African descent

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01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 11: got to the country in this case Guatemala, and an

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01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 11: overview of their presence their history in that country. You

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 11: can also come with us in August to Salvador, Bayia, Brazil.

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01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 11: And I know, Carl, I think you had mentioned you've

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 11: been to Brazil.

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 16: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to share my story with you

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01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: before you.

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 11: Go, but go ahead, okay, okay, but this thing so

1583
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 11: your listeners can come with us to Brazil and to Salvador.

1584
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 11: Salvador is amazing and it is the capital of Afro

1585
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 11: Brazilian culture and so so much of what people enjoy

1586
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 11: about Brazil what Brazil is known for, whether it be Kapwa,

1587
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 11: the martial arts form comes out of Salvador. Some people

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 11: say Samba. If it wasn't out of real then it

1589
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 11: was out of Salvador. Condo Bla, the religious spiritual practice

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01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 11: that has Nigerian roots comes out of Salvador. Is particularly

1591
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 11: is practice in Salvador. Salvador is mind blowing. I mean

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 11: it is amazing a city that is sixty seventy percent black.

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 11: So I think about DC right in that area and

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 11: the culture, it just it oozes out of you and

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 11: out of the streets and you meet. We're gonna meet

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01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 11: entrepreneurs and chefs and people maintaining the culture. So it's

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01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,879
Speaker 11: going to be phenomenal. And again if people are interested,

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 11: they're welcome to email us, go to our website Travels

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01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 11: with Kim hoss Ha a s as in sam or

1600
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 11: info at Travels with Kim hass for more information. But again,

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01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 11: Guatemala is this May. Salvador vay Via Brazil is August,

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01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 11: and then next year we're going to have more tours

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01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 11: to the Dominican Republic and really learn about the African

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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 11: roots in the Dominican Republic. So that's going to be

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01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 11: fantastic and a whole lot for our in store for

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 11: next year.

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Speaker 1: Thought stix away from the top of our Sister Fama's

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01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: called from Washington, d C. She wants to speak with this.

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Speaker 1: She's online. She's online. Seven grand rising sister for him.

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: You only came high.

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01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 17: Good morning Knows, Good morning mister Nelson, and all commost

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01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 17: to your guest. Yes, rien Us, Yes, you know. I

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 17: wanted to say. You mentioned Costa Rica. And you probably

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 17: know Martha Johnson from Lamone, who was the first Black

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01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 17: governor of Lamone. Every August she does this big African UH.

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01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 17: It's a celebration of African culture every August. And I

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01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 17: had the chance to as a member of an organization,

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01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 17: the International Black Ones Across Culture Institute, and Lemone is

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Speaker 17: an area where it's primarily people of African descent. It's

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01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 17: some you know, in contrast to San Juan, and it's

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01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 17: also not very far from Costa Rica. And you also

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01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 17: referenced Guardy. I know when I went in the nineties,

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Speaker 17: and I know the man is deceased now, but the

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Speaker 17: caretaker was actually still alive who was part of the

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01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 17: UH Marcus Garvey's movement, and we were there. We had

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Speaker 17: an event there and it's a big celebration. They have

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Speaker 17: the parade every year in August and it's something that

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01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 17: folks would really would like to tend. And also I

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01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 17: had the chance to go to Cuba and what what

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01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 17: impressed me in Cuba is the African spirituality Santa Ria.

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01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 17: It's very much a part of It's like here in

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Speaker 17: this country, people hiding, right, I mean, you know it,

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01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 17: you know it, But there in Cuba it was every

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01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 17: I even had written a poem called Havna Sky that

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01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 17: indicating that this particular the religion it you know, it's hidden,

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01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 17: It's not hidden. It's every in the museum, uh Na versa,

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01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 17: that kasais, et cetera, everywhere, And that was the contract.

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01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 17: And it is an African country. Black people are there,

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01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 17: and well what we know, the history is there. It

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01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 17: is very much a present and I just wanted to

1641
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 17: share that experience. And have you have you been during

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01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 17: the time when market has he the festival in August

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01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 17: A to you?

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01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: Well, hold you response, Kim, because we got to step aside,

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01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Kim holy response. I'll let you you respond to System

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01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: Forjima's question and thank you System for Hima. But we

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01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: got to check the traffic in different cities at three

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01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: minutes away from the top of the our family with

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01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: our guest Kim Has, she's taken us on a tour

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01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: of Afro Latino countries. You could join us at eight

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01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: hundred and four to five zero seventy eight seventy six

1652
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls as we check the

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01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: traffic and weather. That's next and grand rising founding fact.

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: You're staying with us on this Wednesday morning and we

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01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 1: speak with Kim House. Kim House is at Oral Traveling.

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01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: She's taken us a tour of Afri Latino countries. Before

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01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: we left, we're speaking with sisterm Forahima. So Kim, I

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01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: know you want to respond to what Sister Forhima said.

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01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 11: So yes, no, thank you so much for that. And yes,

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01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 11: So in terms of Costa Rica and Lemon, we're talking

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01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 11: about earlier and Lemon on the Caribbean coast. We actually

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01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 11: took our a tour of Costa Rica in terms of

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01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 11: its African roots. We had the author Quint Duncan gave

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01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 11: a historical overview and he was amazing. And one of

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01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 11: our second tour was actually we've attended the parade, So

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01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 11: the Afro Costa Rican Parade in August, as you mentioned,

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01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 11: we did that intended in twenty twenty four, and it

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 11: was so colorful and vibrant, and the people have a

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01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 11: real reverence and appreciation for Costa Rica's African roots. So

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01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 11: you can see everyone, not just you know, people of

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01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 11: asking descent, but people are dressed in guarded and it's

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01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 11: a real celebration and community and so it's really beautiful.

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01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 11: So we actually took a group as I mentioned, in

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Speaker 11: August twenty twenty four to Costa Rica and prior to

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01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 11: that in twenty twenty two to Costa Rica. And then

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01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 11: we make sure that on our tour, you know, we

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01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 11: have the speakers many of the people who appear in

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01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:08,839
Speaker 11: our shows again with us on the tours and diving

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01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 11: even deeper into the country's African roots. So Colombia, we

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01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 11: just went to Colombian July, had a fantastic time. We

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01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 11: were in Colleague and the Pacific Coach was very much

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01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 11: Afro Colombian and then in Kastahena and Palnke. So we're

1683
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 11: making the rounds and getting people out and with us

1684
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 11: having a great time, learning a lot and really engaging

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01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 11: with community members and afric you know, whether it's Colombian

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01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,879
Speaker 11: or Costa Rican or coming up in Guatemala or in Brazil.

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01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 11: As I mentioned in August, So it's a great way

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01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 11: to exchange, to learn to support communities. When we go,

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01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 11: we donate school supplies and other items that are you know, requested.

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Speaker 11: So it's as to really start forming these relationships with

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01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 11: other people of African descent and to learn so much.

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01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 11: And the great thing is that so often do people

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01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 11: want these relationships. They want to hear from folks from

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01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 11: the United States and African Americans and learn and engage,

1695
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 11: and it's really beautiful and our travelers just come away

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01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 11: with unforgettable experiences. So if you can't travel with us again,

1697
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 11: you can catch our episodes on television on TBS on

1698
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 11: Create TV because they air throughout the year, and it's

1699
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 11: a wonderful way to learn about these countries and their

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01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 11: phenomenal history.

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01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 1: All right, four f that topic, I think it's systant

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01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 1: for Hima. Let me say say this came out I

1703
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: told you about it that trip. We used to take

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01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: trips to Africa. Every year we go to a different

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01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: African state, and so one year resigned let's go to

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01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: Brazil because there's more Africans in Brazil and ail the country.

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01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: So we went to Brazil. So once we got to

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: the reo, you know, and our guide, we can saying

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01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: where are folks at? Well, we want to we want

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01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: to see our people, you know, we want to go

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01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: to Salvador, Bahia. We want to meet our people. And

1712
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: he was sort of dismissive. He says, you guys from America,

1713
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: all you want to do is ask about race. He

1714
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: says that I mean, and this is he told, you know,

1715
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 1: they don't discuss race like how we discuss race in Brazil.

1716
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: But we went to Salvado by and we had a

1717
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: great time. As you mentioned that the folks are welcoming Usk,

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01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, and and and just just the language barer,

1719
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: but trying to communicate with each other. We had a

1720
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: great time. But did you find that in Brazil that

1721
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 1: they don't want to because they have a color hierarchy

1722
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: hierarchy if you will. And of course our folks at

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01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: the bottom of the.

1724
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 11: Barrel, absolutely, and Latin America in general. And again when

1725
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 11: I speak, I want to be very careful because you

1726
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 11: know I'm talking and speaking in generality but there are

1727
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 11: you know, people on all sides of the spectrum and

1728
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 11: with opinions. But in general, Latin America has had this

1729
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 11: history of what they call and I singing quotes, they

1730
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 11: are quotes racial democracy and we don't see color and

1731
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 11: everybody's equal. But remember at the part of that and

1732
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 11: the core of that was what they call blancamiento, right,

1733
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 11: or the whitening of the race, and that promotion of

1734
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 11: particularly people of asking the scent marrying someone white too

1735
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 11: again in quote better the race and Latin America. If

1736
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 11: you go to Latin American and you'll find that there's

1737
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 11: still this oh we don't we don't trudge, you know,

1738
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 11: we everybody's the same I have. You know, my cousins

1739
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,759
Speaker 11: are all different colors. Some are black, some are white.

1740
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 11: I mean you'll hear that. But just like you said,

1741
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 11: but when you go and you learn, turn on the

1742
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 11: television and you will not see someone black. You will

1743
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 11: not see someone with black features, someone dark skin, in

1744
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 11: particular on television anchoring the news. If you go into

1745
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 11: a restaurant, I can't tell you how many times I

1746
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 11: go to a restaurant throughout Latin America and I will

1747
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 11: be the only black person in the restaurant, but there'd

1748
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 11: be probably if you go in the kitchen, or if

1749
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 11: you look to see who's in the kitchen, there's a

1750
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 11: good likelihood that it would be somebody black, somebody of

1751
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:21,560
Speaker 11: African descent. So who has the power making the decisions,

1752
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 11: who's controlling the budget the finances. When I was in Salvador,

1753
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 11: as you mentioned, and I love Salvador, Salvador is easily

1754
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 11: sixty seventy percent eighty percent black and brown. Stayed at

1755
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,759
Speaker 11: the hotel, or at least I was there ten days

1756
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 11: on my last trip, not one black person at the

1757
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 11: front desk. But who was doing the work. And when

1758
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 11: I say carrying the furniture, because I was watching carrying

1759
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 11: the furniture up the steps, I mean heavy. They were

1760
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 11: moving heavy pieces of furniture up the step. It was

1761
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 11: black men and dark skinned black men. But at the

1762
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,759
Speaker 11: front desk, not one single black person in a city

1763
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 11: that is sixty seventy eighty percent black.

1764
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 7: And then finally, on my last day, I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, go.

1765
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,520
Speaker 1: Ahead, and finished it because I got to ask another.

1766
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 14: Question to go ahead.

1767
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 11: I was just going to say, on my last day,

1768
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 11: I was leaving after been there ten eleven days, I

1769
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 11: saw one black woman and I said, oh my gosh,

1770
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 11: I said, where.

1771
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 8: Have you been?

1772
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 11: And I went talked to her and I knew she

1773
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 11: couldn't say but so much. She was at the front desk,

1774
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 11: and I didn't want, you know, but I was so

1775
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 11: surprised to see her because I had not seen one

1776
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 11: black person at the front desk in ten days of

1777
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 11: being there. And she said, you know, I'm pretty sure

1778
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 11: I got this job because I speak English. So none

1779
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 11: of the other people spoke English. I think a couple,

1780
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 11: but in ten days, none of the other people spoke English.

1781
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 8: But she was the only one.

1782
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 11: And she was the only black person there I saw

1783
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 11: who spoke Portuguese obviously they're her native language and English,

1784
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 11: and it was just amazing. And she said, you know,

1785
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 11: I watch YouTube. I watched television so that I could

1786
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 11: learn and learn to speak English. And that's why, no

1787
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 11: doubt why she was there. So in a city that

1788
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 11: is predominantly black, Salvador has never had a black mayor,

1789
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 11: I think that it's just tremendous. Sixty seventy eighty percent

1790
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 11: black and brown, and still that's where they find themselves.

1791
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 11: So there's a lot there that this is just centuries.

1792
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 11: Remember we've got to remember this, this is centuries of racism,

1793
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 11: centuries of denial. I'm glad you brought it up though,

1794
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 11: because it's still very common in Latin Aerica.

1795
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 17: Oh, we're all the same, there's.

1796
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 11: No prejudice, okay. And then you ask people, well, how

1797
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 11: come I've never seen someone who looks like me on television?

1798
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 12: Here?

1799
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 11: How come I've never seen a mayor? How come I've

1800
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 11: never seen and you go into things and then people

1801
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 11: many times I've said that to people and they start, Oh,

1802
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 11: it's like they've never I don't know, they've never thought

1803
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 11: of it before. But this stuff is so deep sea

1804
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 11: that it's going to take time to undo how people

1805
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 11: feel about being black, how people feel about you know,

1806
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 11: the negative denying it, the negativity around it. It just

1807
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 11: takes it takes generations to undo the damage and undo

1808
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 11: what has been done for centuries.

1809
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: All right, if the top I'm moment tail we're going

1810
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 1: to speak with doctor Abel. I'm gonna ask you this question.

1811
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: All the Afro Latin American countries that you go to,

1812
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: are we concentrated in ghettos? I hate to say by

1813
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: he is a ghetto Salvado or Santiago, Cuba where we

1814
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: are concentrated, is it, you know, would we think of

1815
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: it as a ghetto. Then let me put it that

1816
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: way in all the different Latin American countries that you visit,

1817
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: so I think.

1818
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 11: In again watching what I'm you know, in general, people

1819
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 11: of Acting descent in the various countries, whether it's in

1820
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 11: you know, Lemon in Costa Rica, in Savador, which is

1821
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 11: a city of several million people, if you're in Luisa,

1822
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:13,719
Speaker 11: Puerto Rico, which is much smaller in general, Santiago, Cuba.

1823
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 11: In general, these communities have less economic resources, find themselves

1824
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 11: in less powerful financial situations. So that is in general,

1825
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,839
Speaker 11: I'm not going to say they are ghettos or qualify

1826
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 11: them in that way, but they tend to be in

1827
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 11: communities that have less economic power. And that's because of opportunity.

1828
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 11: I mean, it's a whole series of things. Policies, it's

1829
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 11: lack Whilst Latin American general did not have laws on

1830
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 11: the books segregating people of African descent, the way people live,

1831
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 11: whether they were allowed to pursue opportunities, wound up a

1832
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 11: lot of times relating and keeping people in communities with

1833
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 11: less economic resources. So I think that's how I would

1834
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 11: qualify it. But at the same time, it maybe the

1835
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 11: lead people on a good note. There's so many great

1836
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 11: things happening as well. And we had a former president

1837
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 11: Costa Rica vice president EPC. Campbell, was the first black

1838
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 11: vice president in Latin America and that was EPC.

1839
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 8: Campbell.

1840
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 13: And in Colombia.

1841
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 11: We have Colombia now for the first time has its

1842
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 11: first black vice president, Francia Marquez. Her term is finishing

1843
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 11: up right in the next couple of months. I met

1844
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 11: with her last year in Colombia. Amazing story. So we

1845
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 11: could go on and on. So while conditions aren't still

1846
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 11: I think the way we would like to see them

1847
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 11: and see, you know, people back in descent, but they're

1848
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 11: still thriving and they're still doing so many good things

1849
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 11: and great work and culture and history and preservation and

1850
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 11: keeping community. So there's still a lot to be proud,

1851
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 11: so much to be proud of. And these things take

1852
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 11: time to dismantle racism. I mean we're talking about centuries.

1853
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 11: It just doesn't happen overnight. But people are welcome to

1854
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 11: come with us or see us on television and learn

1855
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 11: more about it because it's truly an amazing history.

1856
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: And Kim real quickly, how can they follow you? How

1857
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: can they see the shows that you've done.

1858
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 11: So our television show Afro Latino Travels with Kim Has

1859
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 11: airs on PBS across the country in Washington, DC, in

1860
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 11: the Baltimore area, so you do have to check your

1861
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 11: local listings, and then they're welcome to come with us

1862
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 11: on one of our tours Travels with kimhas dot com,

1863
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 11: HAA s or just google us. We have a tour

1864
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,759
Speaker 11: to Guatemala, which is indigenous and Garifuna and I'm happy

1865
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,440
Speaker 11: we send you information. That's in May, and then Brazil

1866
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 11: in Salvador in August, and then more tours to come

1867
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 11: Uraguay next year, Dominican Republic, so much of Latin America

1868
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 11: to see. We'd love to have people join us on

1869
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 11: one of our upcoming tours.

1870
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Kim, thank you for sharing your thoughts

1871
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 1: with us. A strength and we traveled with you Vicresa

1872
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: to these different countries. Thank you, Kim. Gratias Danada fourteen

1873
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: after the top of the family, Kim has A World

1874
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Travelers taking us on a tour of Afro Latino countries

1875
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: and let's go over and now to doctor A doctor

1876
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 1: A grand Rising, welcome back to the program. Thank you

1877
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: for being so patient with us this morning.

1878
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 8: Oh definitely listen. I want to go on a trip abroad.

1879
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 8: So that's powerful information for everybody in our community. Is

1880
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 8: so good to be back with you and your team.

1881
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: And let me just tell family, Doctor A doctor is

1882
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: a natropathic doctor. She's also a traditional doctor. So you've

1883
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: got a health challenge, a health question, or you just

1884
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 1: need a second opinion about your health, or you know

1885
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: somebody who does, tell them to call us right now

1886
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: and you can speak to doctor A at eight hundred

1887
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. And again

1888
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: I employ you take advantage of her expertise. You guys

1889
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: have been to the doctor. Hopefully you haven't, but if

1890
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: you have, and trying to get an appointment just to

1891
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: see the doctor, and then when you get to see

1892
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: the doctor, you maybe get ten fifteen minutes the most

1893
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: and you're in and you're out, and then you might

1894
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 1: have Oh I should have asked about this because you know,

1895
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: and currently if I'm wrong, Doctor A, the doctor can't

1896
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: treat you unless you're tell me everything that's wrong.

1897
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 11: With you.

1898
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: You know, he's just moving on the information that you provide.

1899
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 8: You nailed at Carl, A part of the key is

1900
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 8: it's just like a lock and key, right, you want

1901
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 8: to open the door, and you've got the wrong key.

1902
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 8: You can't gain entry. When you go to see a physician.

1903
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,759
Speaker 8: Yes they are a trained expert. Yes they've got exceptional skills,

1904
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 8: hopefully if you vettit them. However, if you don't plug

1905
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 8: in the information about your quote, fingerprint, what is your symptom,

1906
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 8: what is your history, what are your risk factors, they

1907
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 8: literally will come up with the wrong answer. They're not psychic.

1908
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 8: It depends on the patient feedback. A lot of what

1909
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 8: we've been doing, Carl in these past two years when

1910
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,919
Speaker 8: I come on, it's not just taking callers, but teaching

1911
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 8: our Pan African community how to interface with a medical

1912
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 8: professional and get what you want out of it.

1913
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: So true and hoole leftough right there, I'm looking at

1914
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: the cloud. We're at a stepiside. I hate to do this,

1915
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: you had just started, but we come back. Family, you've

1916
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: got a health challenge or a health question at all.

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Speaker 1: You've got family and friends who do and you know

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Speaker 1: and you want to help them. This is the lady

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Speaker 1: you need to talk to. She's a traditional doctor as

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Speaker 1: long as we wear a white colt. And she's also

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Speaker 1: a holistic a naturopathic doctor too, so you can have

1922
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Speaker 1: both ways. If you've got an issue, she'll give you

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Speaker 1: an idea which side you want to go, and you

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Speaker 1: make your decision. You don't get that often very real,

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Speaker 1: especially the doctors and the white coat because they went

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Speaker 1: to med school, so they're not about to share something

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Speaker 1: that you can do holistically to cure whatever ailment that

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Speaker 1: you have. Again, it's seen at the top of the eye.

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Speaker 1: You know how to reach us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take

1931
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Speaker 1: your phone calls next real less on this Wednesday morning,

1932
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Speaker 1: and it's a hunt. We're halfway through the work week,

1933
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Speaker 1: and our guess is doctor A. And as I mentioned,

1934
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Speaker 1: doctor A is a traditional doctor. There the ones who

1935
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Speaker 1: wear the white coat. You know, I'll give you the pharmaceuticals.

1936
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Speaker 1: And she's also a traditional a holistic doctor naturopathic doctor.

1937
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Speaker 1: So there's two ways to look at it. If you

1938
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Speaker 1: have health concerns, health issues, and you have a choice,

1939
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Speaker 1: very rarely you'll find that with your own doctor because

1940
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Speaker 1: you know they went to mad school. They don't feel

1941
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Speaker 1: like they should give you a cheaper way of getting

1942
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Speaker 1: better if you will. And some people will say doctor

1943
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: a that you know, doctors are there just to help

1944
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Speaker 1: the medical the pharmaceutical company because if you cured, then

1945
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Speaker 1: they're out of a job, so they're not trying to

1946
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Speaker 1: cure you. And I don't know if you want to

1947
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Speaker 1: comment on that, but the holistic doctors they do. On

1948
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Speaker 1: the other hand, I'll let you figure if you want

1949
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Speaker 1: to comment on that, because I want to get you

1950
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Speaker 1: in trouble.

1951
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Speaker 8: I think it is worthy of commenting that the narrative

1952
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 8: for Western medicine was controlled by JD. Rockefeller. You know,

1953
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 8: after he killed a lot of poor white men in

1954
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 8: the coal mines, he had a horrible reputation. He literally

1955
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 8: hired a pr agent who told him become a philanthropist. Okay,

1956
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,560
Speaker 8: so that is why. And so now as a philanthropist

1957
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,600
Speaker 8: he bought There were very few medical schools at the

1958
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 8: turn of the twentieth century, so he bought them and

1959
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 8: controlled the curriculum. So the narrative is focused on disease

1960
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 8: and use pharmaceuticals. That does not mean that as an

1961
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 8: educated human being, you cannot get what you want out

1962
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Speaker 8: of the medical community. One thing about the United States,

1963
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 8: you have a right, alleged lea to healthcare. One in

1964
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 8: three Americans does not have a primary care doctor, Carl,

1965
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 8: and you know that's majority of our community. However, you

1966
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 8: at least have the right, okay, meaning when you go

1967
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 8: into a hospital and you actually are sick, you can't

1968
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Speaker 8: be turned away. Across the globe. You know, the sister

1969
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 8: before me was talking about international travel. Many of those countries.

1970
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 8: If you happen to have an injury or an illness,

1971
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 8: you're going to be up the creek. Okay, you will

1972
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 8: not have the right to anything. At least in this country.

1973
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 8: You can actually go into a hospital, you can actually

1974
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 8: receive health care. You cannot be turned away once you

1975
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Speaker 8: are sick. But even better, if you are a recipient

1976
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Speaker 8: of government health care because of age or disability or income,

1977
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 8: then you absolutely need to be utilizing that. You absolutely

1978
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 8: need to know yourself, know your family history, know your lifestyle,

1979
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Speaker 8: your habits, and be honest and transparent. See, the doctor

1980
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 8: cannot snitch on you. Even in court of law. They

1981
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 8: have to protect patient confidentiality unless you are you know,

1982
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 8: the massive murderer of United Healthcare, a CEO or something

1983
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 8: like that. They protect your confidentiality. You can be honest

1984
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 8: with them about your sex life, your habits, how you

1985
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 8: self medicate, what failures you have, as well as what

1986
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 8: your strengths are, whether you work out or whether you

1987
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 8: do zero exercise. All of these things contribute to whether

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Speaker 8: you're well or whether you're moving in the direction of illness.

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Speaker 8: Looking at a holistic model, Carl, we look at acidic

1990
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Speaker 8: versus alkaline, and we've talked about that extensively. That the

1991
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Speaker 8: body's state of wellness is an alkalinized state. That you

1992
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 8: really don't want an acidic condition in your body. You

1993
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 8: want to really make sure that you are bringing things

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Speaker 8: into your body that do not cause an acidic state,

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Speaker 8: that do not cause inflammation and mucus. That is how

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Speaker 8: disease and cancer are born.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, thank you for that. Before have to top

1998
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: dare I got some folks want to talk to you already.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to line one. Lisa calling from DC Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising Lee. You're on with doctor A.

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Speaker 15: Greeting to all, Uh, doctor, I have a question about parasite.

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Speaker 15: What's a natural remedy for parasites in the bottom.

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Speaker 8: Well, okay, that that is a broad, broad question, Lisa,

2004
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Speaker 8: have you been diagnosed or somebody that you know been

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01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 8: diagnosed as having parasite?

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Speaker 15: Yes, the friend of mine has cancer. She's doing chemo

2007
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 15: at the moment. In fact, she's due for her last

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Speaker 15: chemotherapy this week.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 7: They said she had tumors for here.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So no, that.

2012
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Speaker 8: That's extremely important to know. And thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 8: If you don't mind sharing, what is the form of

2014
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Speaker 8: cancer that she's being treated for.

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Speaker 11: She happened?

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Speaker 13: You know, she hasn't been for me.

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Speaker 8: I don't like her past. Okay. And you know what, now,

2018
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 8: you're common in our community that we love people, we

2019
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 8: are loving on people, and we don't always have access

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Speaker 8: sometimes even a family member, and we really will.

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Speaker 11: Not have access to the specifics of what's going on.

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Speaker 8: But I can tell you this that number one, you know,

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Speaker 8: we often as a community we talk about parasites, and

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Speaker 8: we have an impression that perhaps detoxing is consistent with

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Speaker 8: the removal of parasites. But the first statement that I

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Speaker 8: need to make is that so many persons that are

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Speaker 8: looking at social media or googling things, or or trying

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Speaker 8: to recounter culture to Western medicine, latch on to this

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Speaker 8: word parasite and try to actually treat and eliminate parasites

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Speaker 8: from a body because it's in a disease state, because

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Speaker 8: it's not in a wellness state. Everybody is not affected

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Speaker 8: by parasites. So some of the parasite remedies for human

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Speaker 8: beings can include a mixture of evidence based and prescription

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Speaker 8: based as well as natural, herbal and dietary approaches to

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Speaker 8: being able to clear worms or what we call protozoa

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Speaker 8: from your gut or from your intestines. And while many

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01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 8: natural remedies are popular for reducing the quote symptoms and

2038
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 8: supporting your immune system, very serious infections actually require conventional

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01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 8: medicine and treatment. What it sounds like, though, in your friend,

2040
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,600
Speaker 8: is that what she's really going to benefit from, in

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01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 8: addition to whatever treatment she may be seeking, is an

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Speaker 8: overall reboot in her nutrient and that means whole foods,

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01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 8: not processed foods, for her to intake, and if she's

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Speaker 8: undergoing rounds of chemotherapy, then even smoothies, so you can

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01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 8: certainly google recipes for smoothies and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 8: If she has not been diagnosed with having penworms, intestinal parasites,

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Speaker 8: or anything of that sort. I would really focus on

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Speaker 8: her holistic treatment as a compliment for rebounding the body

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Speaker 8: from cancer. Chemotherapy is enormously toxic. Yes, it works because

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01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 8: cancer cells multiply so much faster than normal cells, and

2051
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 8: so when you target cancer cells, they are going to

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01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 8: be hit so much more frequently than our normal cells.

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Speaker 8: But our normal cells are affected, and that is where

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Speaker 8: we take a punch when we're under going chemotherapy. So,

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Speaker 8: getting this woman who you love and care about and

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01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 8: have been praying for, nutrients like omega three, fatty assis, zinc, magnesium, soursop,

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01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 8: whole foods shop, the perimeter of the grocery store, not

2058
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 8: the owls with all the chemicals and processed food. These

2059
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 8: are some of the things that will help her and

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Speaker 8: pray for her because if she's a private woman, that's

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Speaker 8: a part of our culture. So many of us are

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01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 8: not disclosing the very things that we're praying about. Thank

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01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 8: you so much for calling and being a part of

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Speaker 8: the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all righty, thank you Lisa. Before I take

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Speaker 1: the next call for you, you mentioned pray. Praying is

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Speaker 1: prayer something that you recommend too, What about it if

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01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: the person is a non believer.

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Speaker 8: Doctor A Well, Carl, thank you for tapping into that

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Speaker 8: part of my commentary. I think that is a very

2071
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 8: very essential part of our African culture. We come from

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01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 8: praying people, so you don't have to believe in a religion.

2073
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 8: You don't have to ascribe to a belief system. But

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Speaker 8: being a believer means that you, being in the flesh,

2075
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 8: have a comprehension of quantum physics, Carl.

2076
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Speaker 13: So even science says.

2077
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Speaker 8: We're bigger than who we are, We're bigger than the

2078
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 8: accumulation of atoms that make the physical being that you

2079
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 8: happen to see manifesting. We do have an aura, We

2080
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 8: do connect with the rest of the universe. All living beings,

2081
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 8: not just human beings, have a component of spirituality. So

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01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what the human beings belief system. We

2083
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 8: have a diaspora, just like we have a diaspora of

2084
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 8: our eye color and our skin complexion. There's a diaspora

2085
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 8: of belief among our people. But as we cross the globe,

2086
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 8: we do have to believe, especially in these turbulent times, Carl.

2087
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 8: We are in times where if the only thing that

2088
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 8: you go on are the factual evidence presented to you

2089
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 8: by mass media, you'll become depressed or suicidal. You have

2090
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 8: to have a sense of faith, and like I said,

2091
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 8: even if you don't ascribe to a religion, you can

2092
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 8: look to study quantum physics to understand that your physical

2093
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 8: self is actually so much greater. Yes, believing and praying

2094
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 8: and tapping in. We just saw the monks take what

2095
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 8: a three thousand man journey in prayer.

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01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:47,839
Speaker 13: They number one.

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01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 8: When two are more, gather and affirm the same thing.

2098
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 8: There's power in that. When we come together as a

2099
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 8: massive there's power in that. There was power in the

2100
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 8: million man march. There was how your power in the

2101
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 8: millium woman march. There's power when we collectively pray as families.

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Speaker 8: There's power when we collectively pray as church families. Yes,

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Speaker 8: a part of our healing is our belief.

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Speaker 1: Got you twenty nine away from the top of our family.

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Speaker 1: Doctor A's our guest this morning, and please don't wait

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01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: to the last manet many of you every time she's

2107
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: on the way to the last minute to call. If

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01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: you got to concern a health challenge, and you don't

2109
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: have to use your real name or your real city

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01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: I know some people are really private and want people

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Speaker 1: know their business. I get it, so, but please take

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Speaker 1: advantage of our expertise because a lot of times you

2113
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to ask doctors the questions that

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01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you're going to ask Doctor A. And if you've got

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Speaker 1: a friend who's got a health challenge as well, this

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01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: is the lady you need to talk to you. And again,

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Speaker 1: the telephone number is eight hundred four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six, Marks reaching out to us. He's

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Speaker 1: in Houston, he's online two Grand Rising, Mark, You're only

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Speaker 1: doctor A.

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Speaker 7: Well green Water, Grand Rising.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, how y'all doing? You're doing all right this morning?

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Speaker 8: Wonderful Mark. Just ma'am.

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Speaker 16: I just want to ask this questions and it's just

2125
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:08,839
Speaker 16: running rapid in our community. I know you remember COVID.

2126
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 16: A lot of people took this COVID shot and now

2127
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 16: most of them don't understand when they go to the

2128
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Speaker 16: hospital they say they have fil posy or something like that.

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Speaker 16: What can you tell the community the other people, uh,

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 16: what do they need to do to get that just

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Speaker 16: simptoms because they're they're side of their places are messed

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Speaker 16: up and stuff like that. And I don't think that

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Speaker 16: no one really understands that someone went to the burgency

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Speaker 16: room and they just checked them out into them. They

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Speaker 16: didn't have a have a stroke or art attack. It's

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Speaker 16: just it's just a fair posy, uh, because it has

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Speaker 16: anything to do with the the COVID that they took.

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Speaker 16: That for those people are hearing through the communities. But well,

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Speaker 16: I mean, can you help them and do what needs

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Speaker 16: to be doing them? What can they do about that?

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, thank you for calling in. Mark.

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Speaker 8: We appreciate you joining the conversation on this Tony Morrison's birthday.

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Speaker 8: Let me share with the community what we're talking about.

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Speaker 8: Mark's concerns are real based concerns we know and you

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Speaker 8: know the community, the medical community of America has now admitted, yes,

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Speaker 8: there have been negative consequences adverse effects of us rushing

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Speaker 8: out the COVID vaccine. So again, to interpret that is

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Speaker 8: not to say let's all be anti vacs about everything.

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Speaker 8: You know, A separate critical discussion is what's happening in

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Speaker 8: our school systems with this measles epidemic, and so it

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Speaker 8: is critical that we educate ourselves properly about all vaccinations.

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Speaker 8: They're not all the same. They didn't all get released

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Speaker 8: in the same way. The COVID shot in particular was

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Speaker 8: released under crisis and certainly was hurried out to the public,

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Speaker 8: and we had multiple pharmaceutical companies vying for the billions

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Speaker 8: of dollars. Then all of a sudden, it became mandatory

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Speaker 8: for certain workforces to get the COVID shot to return

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Speaker 8: to work. So there were a lot of political social

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Speaker 8: implications behind the COVID vaccine. In particular, Bell's palsy is

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Speaker 8: what he specifically brought up. Bell's palsy is a temporary

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Speaker 8: sudden weakness or paralysis of the muscles on the side

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Speaker 8: of your face, and it's caused by inflammation. So again

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Speaker 8: we talked about inflammation Carl at the start of the show.

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Speaker 8: That's why I intentionally spoke broadly to touch as many

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Speaker 8: listeners as humanly possible. Inflammation touches so many things to

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Speaker 8: go wrong with the human body. So when the seventh

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Speaker 8: cranial nerve becomes inflamed, the symptoms are facial paralysis or

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Speaker 8: weakness on one side of your face. The symptoms can

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Speaker 8: be drooping mouth, difficulty closing your eyes. You're drooling out

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Speaker 8: of your mouth, uncontrollably. Your taste and your sense of

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Speaker 8: taste changes a lot of times. You will recover over

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Speaker 8: two weeks to six months. But things that can trigger

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Speaker 8: Bell's palsy include inflammation, viral infections, and yes, some persons

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Speaker 8: have experienced this directly resulting from getting the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 8: Your body received a vaccination and depending on your own

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Speaker 8: immune system status, you did or did not respond to that.

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Speaker 8: Some people took a vaccine two, three, four times, got boosters,

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Speaker 8: and still their body failed to have an immune response.

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Speaker 8: Other persons took an mRNA virus vaccine, and the mRNA

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Speaker 8: vaccine incorporates in your DNA in a different way than

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Speaker 8: a killed vaccine or a different type of live vaccine.

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Speaker 8: So specifically looking into the effects of mRNA vaccines is

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Speaker 8: a part of what we need to do as a listenership.

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Speaker 8: I advise you to do that because we don't have

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Speaker 8: enough time on the airways to cover every single negative

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Speaker 8: adverse effect that occurred from the covid shot by mass.

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Speaker 8: Persons are showing up with Bell's palsy. Persons are also

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Speaker 8: showing up with coagulopathies. They're developing blood clots, they're throwing

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Speaker 8: clots and having strokes, having heart attacks, whereas they never

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Speaker 8: had a risk factor for a coagulopathy previously. So there

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Speaker 8: are many different consequences that have come about from COVID

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Speaker 8: other persons that have had zero adverse effect. Everybody that

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Speaker 8: got the shot didn't have an adverse effect. You may

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Speaker 8: have a subpopulation that maybe two to four percent of

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Speaker 8: the US population, right and hold up.

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Speaker 1: All right there, doctor, Hey, we got to step aside

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Speaker 1: for a few moments.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you.

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Speaker 1: And this is really important because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: took the shot and every time we have a doctor

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Speaker 1: on there asking is there a reversal? There's something I

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Speaker 1: can do, and I want you to go down that

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Speaker 1: road and help those folks as well. Family, you've got

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Speaker 1: a health challenge and a question about health, and you

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Speaker 1: want to see one of the best doctors we've got.

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Speaker 1: Her name is doctor A. You can reach her at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls. Next and Grand Rising

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Speaker 1: Family acts just staying with us on this Wednesday, Monday

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Speaker 1: with our guest doctor. As I mentioned, doctor A is

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Speaker 1: a traditional doctor and also a holistic a natropathic doctor.

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Speaker 1: So you've got it both ways. You've got to you've

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Speaker 1: got a health challenge or a health question. At least

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Speaker 1: this is a doctor you can talk to, or at

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Speaker 1: least you want to get a second opinion. And again,

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Speaker 1: don't be bashful about this when it comes to your health.

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Speaker 1: Be proactive because it's only you. You are the one

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Speaker 1: who could make the decision. Nobody else can make the

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Speaker 1: decision for you. Don't wait till the last minute to

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Speaker 1: ask doctor A a question like many. If you do

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Speaker 1: every time she's on, it's a whole bunch of calls

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Speaker 1: were left. So make sure you get in early at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 1: And again you don't have to use your real name

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Speaker 1: of your real city. Doctor A doesn't care. She wants

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Speaker 1: to help you. And before we go back to it,

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Speaker 1: let me just rebind. Oh, today's I got a shout

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Speaker 1: out our Muslim brothers and sisters Ramadan mdark my barak

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Speaker 1: and they start Ramadan today and they are not eating

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Speaker 1: too till dusk, so they're fasting and all day long.

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Speaker 1: And also it's ash Wednesday for the Christians, especially the

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Speaker 1: Catholic folks. If you go on the stores or go

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Speaker 1: out today, you'll see them with that cross mark on

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Speaker 1: their foreheads. You know that's I guess that's for ash

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Speaker 1: Wednesday leading up to Easter coming up next month. And

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Speaker 1: I shout out both of those groups eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Speak to doctor eight,

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Speaker 1: doctor A, did you finish tell us about because again

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Speaker 1: we always get this question about folks who have taken

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Speaker 1: the JAB and taken more than one, one or two

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Speaker 1: three times now we've seen all kinds of problems being

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Speaker 1: you know, with some of the folks who've taken the JAB.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you finish up that before I take another

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Speaker 1: call for you.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So again, Carl, the COVID vaccine was developed by

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Speaker 8: several different companies, and there certainly are adverse effects that occurred.

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Speaker 8: The first thing for people to know is you've got

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Speaker 8: your own immune system, and so we're not all created equally.

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Speaker 8: Not only are we different ages, but some of us

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Speaker 8: have COD morbidities and others of us do not. So

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Speaker 8: if you are a high risk person because of already

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Speaker 8: having co morbidities, then the vaccine may have really affected

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Speaker 8: you in a different way more often than not. What

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Speaker 8: has happened with the covid vaccine. Since we now have

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Speaker 8: rolled out and we still are not ten years out, Carl,

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Speaker 8: so we still will be learning more adverse effects as

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Speaker 8: time goes forward. But what we do know is that

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Speaker 8: there have been cases where persons have coagulopathies. There have

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Speaker 8: been cases where persons have strokes, where persons have heart attack.

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Speaker 8: The brother called and asked about Bell's palsy, which is

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Speaker 8: one of the less severe consequences because again Bell's palsy

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Speaker 8: is most commonly temporarily temporary and reversible, so after two

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Speaker 8: weeks to six months it goes away. A stroke or

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Speaker 8: a heart attack, on the other hand, these are catastrophic,

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Speaker 8: permanent events, So we really want to understand what is

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Speaker 8: the inflammation that can occur to the heart muscle and

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Speaker 8: to the heart lining that's observed with the mRNA vaccines.

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Speaker 8: That is the most significant thing that we're really seeing.

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Speaker 8: That's called myocarditis, and that's also a pericardidem So both

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Speaker 8: things have been seen with this mRNA covid vaccination. Certain

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Speaker 8: various strains of the vaccine, meaning produced by specific pharmaceutical

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Speaker 8: companies also have been associated with specific consequences and complications.

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Speaker 8: For example, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine specifically was linked

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Speaker 8: to rare cases where persons did develop low platelets even

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Speaker 8: to the point of fatality. So again, there are many

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Speaker 8: rolling out consequences, even change in neurologic status to the

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Speaker 8: point where you are delirious or you're experiencing what looks

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Speaker 8: like in early dementia and you never had those symptoms

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Speaker 8: prior to taking the vaccine. What we really need is

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Speaker 8: research within our community, studies that we control where no

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Speaker 8: we're not jabbing people, but we're following. That's called a

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Speaker 8: case control study, where it's retrospective. You already look at

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Speaker 8: who are the Pan Africans that did not take the

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Speaker 8: vaccine and then match them demographically to persons that received it.

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Speaker 8: And we do our own data collection of what are

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Speaker 8: the effects over the ten years following mandatory vaccination of

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Speaker 8: American people?

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Speaker 1: All right, hold on, all right there, We've got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of folks want to talk to you. Doctor. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Houston, thank you for your call. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Maryland and Marie is waiting for us online. Three

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Speaker 1: grand rising Maria on with doctor.

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Speaker 13: A, friend rising Brother Carl and doctor A and all

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Speaker 13: the listening audience. Thanks to the Most High unmighty for

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Speaker 13: keeping us amen. My question is thank you for doctor

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Speaker 13: A for what you just shared too. Because I have

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Speaker 13: a sister's returned from the military and lo and behold

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Speaker 13: she's having dementia only six the eight years old. My

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Speaker 13: heart is heavy every day and I'm keeping the faith

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Speaker 13: and I'm praying, could you please share with me if

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Speaker 13: there's what could I do. She's in rehab right now,

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Speaker 13: but again not getting any physical movement and it's just

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Speaker 13: she's just there. I have to push with them to

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Speaker 13: give her mega threes because they weren't giving her that.

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Speaker 13: And I'm holistic all the way. My family members think

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Speaker 13: I'm often cool, cool, whatever, but I stand firmly with that.

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Speaker 13: In my case personally, I have visual vision issues and

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Speaker 13: I'm praying that there's hope. And the last question is

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Speaker 13: if one goes holistic, is that a great way? Not

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Speaker 13: holistic I'm sorry, non animal protein like cut it out completely?

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Speaker 13: Do we have a better chance of recovery moving forward?

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Curly.

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Speaker 8: First of all, Marie, thank you, thank you, thank you

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Speaker 8: for calling for transparency, for your loving hearts. You started

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Speaker 8: with affirmation for our entire community and then trying to

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Speaker 8: bless your sister first and foremost. In dealing with dementia,

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Speaker 8: we can certainly take a number of holistic approaches. The

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Speaker 8: fact that she's in nursing care, she's not even seventy

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Speaker 8: years of age. We want to do everything to re

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Speaker 8: engage this sister, re engage her mind. It is still there.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't eaten by a quote parasite. Okay. So the

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Speaker 8: fact of the matter is this, we need to understand

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Speaker 8: what is the underlying cause for her dementia. So that's

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Speaker 8: the first thing. This is a new onset. She did

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Speaker 8: not previously have it. Thank her for her service to

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Speaker 8: all of us because she served in the military. She

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Speaker 8: stood in the gap for everybody. Was she exposed to

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Speaker 8: something chemically or environmentally? You need to get down to

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Speaker 8: what is the undergoing There's so many underlying causes for dementia.

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Speaker 8: You don't just want to manage symptoms. We want to

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Speaker 8: improve her quality of life. But if we can ascertain

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Speaker 8: the actual causality, we may do a lot more benefit

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Speaker 8: to her. So there are a combination of lifestyle adjustments

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Speaker 8: and natural supplements and therapy that can be an adjunct

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Speaker 8: to whatever medication she may be on. Ginkobaloba is a

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Speaker 8: natural supplement that is extremely impactful on the brain and

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Speaker 8: on our memory. Or Mega three fatty acids. Music and

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Speaker 8: art therapy. You really want to infuse that because more

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Speaker 8: and more studies show in the very young and the

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Speaker 8: very old, music therapy re engages their brain in ways

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Speaker 8: that math, reading and even crossword puzzles cannot. In terms

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02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 8: of her diet and nutrition, and a well balanced diet

2343
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:07,640
Speaker 8: becomes critical, so nutrient dense foods again, Omega three fatty acids,

2344
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 8: things that support brain health. The vitamin B complexes are

2345
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 8: important to the brain. Vitamin D three is important to

2346
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,800
Speaker 8: the brain. You don't want her in a nursing facility

2347
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 8: where she gets zero sunlight. She does need sunlight and

2348
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 8: probably needs supplement on vitamin D just because she's in

2349
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 8: a nursing facility. She needs regular exercise that includes walking

2350
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 8: and light resistance training. I don't know her cardiovascular condition,

2351
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 8: but cardiovascular health is improved even with the walking. We

2352
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 8: want to strengthen her muscles, and we want to make

2353
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 8: sure we have fall prevention in place. So those are

2354
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:54,400
Speaker 8: some of the modalities as a loving sister that you

2355
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:55,240
Speaker 8: can tap into.

2356
02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:01,600
Speaker 13: Douca A. She's not walking, she's not speaking, and it's

2357
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:06,240
Speaker 13: very fastication. But I thank you so much. And for myself,

2358
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,000
Speaker 13: she returned from the military. I don't know I serve,

2359
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 13: but I got out. I got the message I was out,

2360
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:14,800
Speaker 13: and she went in without even telling me. And she's

2361
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 13: always been private. So it's just a lot on my plate.

2362
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 13: I'm trying to survive myself and it's very stressful.

2363
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:25,840
Speaker 8: So okay, okay, would you suggest if she's if she's

2364
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:29,920
Speaker 8: not walking or talking, if this is that extreme, then again,

2365
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:36,040
Speaker 8: what really becomes important smoothies, dinko baloba omega three fatty

2366
02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 8: acid as supplements for her, music therapy for her because

2367
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 8: this has gone to the extreme. And you're right, her

2368
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,720
Speaker 8: service is in the military and how much that impacted this,

2369
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:51,320
Speaker 8: we're never going to know mm hm exactly.

2370
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 13: All right, Thank you, Mary, God bless you. Thank you

2371
02:14:54,920 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 13: so much, and yes, I appreciate you much. Doctor Nelson also.

2372
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, And let me just add a family,

2373
02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 1: if you've got an issue of medically, don't wait and

2374
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 1: hope somebody has the same issue and they're going to

2375
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:12,880
Speaker 1: call in. Be pro when it comes to your health.

2376
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:15,920
Speaker 1: You have to be proactive. Nobody else cares about your

2377
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,400
Speaker 1: health but you, and so it's your problem. If you

2378
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 1: got an issue, you just want a second opinion what

2379
02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 1: the doctors told you. You need to speak to doctor A.

2380
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:26,800
Speaker 1: You get the traditional medical opinion. Also you'll give you

2381
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:29,360
Speaker 1: a holistic opinion as well. Eight hundred and four or

2382
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy sixty three. On hold, we

2383
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:34,200
Speaker 1: will get to you. Johnny's up next to HEA's online

2384
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 1: four is coming from Long Beach in California. Grand Rising, Johnny,

2385
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 1: you're on with doctor A.

2386
02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:43,960
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Johnny, you're you're an early riser. Kudos

2387
02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 8: to you, my man. You got up at the Craft

2388
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:50,520
Speaker 8: of Dawn in California. Wow. You love Carl Nelson.

2389
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 7: Well, actually, actually I do love Carl Will However, it's

2390
02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 7: I get up brilliant all the time, you know, So

2391
02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 7: it's broad do love. But thanks, thanks for the compliment,

2392
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 7: you know. But what I'm calling about is I had

2393
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:08,720
Speaker 7: to precede your last Friday. It's called generical artery and simbalization.

2394
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:16,680
Speaker 7: Uh on my on my knee, okay, uh for targeting osteoarthritis.

2395
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:18,480
Speaker 7: Have you ever heard of it?

2396
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2397
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 8: Sure?

2398
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 7: Now now okay. The reason why I wanted to ask

2399
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:26,920
Speaker 7: you is did I do the right Uh? Do you

2400
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 7: think I did the right thing by doing that instead

2401
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 7: of doing a knee replacement or this other one that

2402
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 7: has called me or me?

2403
02:16:36,400 --> 02:16:40,520
Speaker 8: Okay, So once again, this is a phenomenal, phenomenal question.

2404
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 18: Uh.

2405
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:46,520
Speaker 8: It certainly affects tens of millions of people across the country.

2406
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 8: So we're talking about osteoathritis. And firstly, and talking about

2407
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:56,920
Speaker 8: osteo athritis, that's very broad, that's very very broad. So

2408
02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:03,640
Speaker 8: in knowing did you select the best modality for your knees?

2409
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:05,280
Speaker 13: Number one?

2410
02:17:05,879 --> 02:17:09,800
Speaker 8: Are you a former athlete? Number two? Are you a smoker?

2411
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:13,039
Speaker 8: Number three? Are you OBEs? Those three things?

2412
02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 7: Somewhat? Yeah?

2413
02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:21,160
Speaker 8: And but you know, women, John, go go back, go back,

2414
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:23,959
Speaker 8: so that we're clear, so that I answer you intentionally.

2415
02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:26,039
Speaker 8: Are you a former athlete?

2416
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 11: Yes?

2417
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 7: Sam?

2418
02:17:27,879 --> 02:17:30,880
Speaker 8: Yes, Sam, you are a former athlete. See that's important

2419
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 8: because those of us who are not athletic and not

2420
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:37,879
Speaker 8: former athletes, we don't even fall in the same category,

2421
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:43,600
Speaker 8: even at age fifty sixty seventy a former athlete versus

2422
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:47,800
Speaker 8: non we're in two different categories. Second question John, was

2423
02:17:47,879 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 8: are you a smoker? No, okay, you don't smoke good

2424
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:57,359
Speaker 8: and because that affects bone health for the listening audience,

2425
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:01,320
Speaker 8: when you smoke tobacco on a record, the basis, okay,

2426
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 8: when you are addicted to nicotine, you are definitely accelerating

2427
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 8: the death of your bones. You're definitely not contributing to

2428
02:18:11,600 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 8: bone health, bone growth, or anything of that sort. You

2429
02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 8: are tremendously more likely to experience osteoarthritis and outright osteoporosis

2430
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 8: and fracture. The third question was about weight. Are you obese?

2431
02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 7: I'm somewhere, you know, I don't consume myself with somewhere.

2432
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 7: It's like I can lose a few pounds.

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02:18:37,879 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, so these are really important things. So in

2434
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 8: other words, and many former athletes, okay, you can either

2435
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:51,400
Speaker 8: you know, have a track runner body or a football

2436
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:56,440
Speaker 8: linebacker body. Both are categories of former athletes. So it

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02:18:56,600 --> 02:19:02,120
Speaker 8: sounds like in your younger days you participant as an athlete,

2438
02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:06,320
Speaker 8: and now that you're non athletic, your body weight is heavier.

2439
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:08,400
Speaker 8: Is that correct, right?

2440
02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:11,720
Speaker 7: But I also I also was a jogger in a

2441
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:15,320
Speaker 7: walker You know, so those I did that after I

2442
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:19,760
Speaker 7: started playing football. I started jogging of the day.

2443
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 8: Okay, So you you have tremendous impact onto your knees,

2444
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 8: and so for somebody who's having continual impact, do you

2445
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:30,680
Speaker 8: wear a brace regularly on your knee?

2446
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:35,120
Speaker 7: I tried everything, you know, the sneeze, you know, the no.

2447
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:37,440
Speaker 8: No, it's not gonna be a be all in all.

2448
02:19:38,600 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 8: It's not the be all in all. Your your problem

2449
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,920
Speaker 8: is very deep and it's been going on for decades.

2450
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:46,920
Speaker 8: So I don't suggest did you do this one thing

2451
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:50,200
Speaker 8: to be paying free. I'm asking you in terms of

2452
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 8: lifestyle and habit, do you regularly wear a brace?

2453
02:19:55,360 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 3: No?

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02:19:56,600 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 8: Okay? So no, So with all those things being the case,

2455
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:06,160
Speaker 8: whether you chose as you did to do the embolization,

2456
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:11,400
Speaker 8: or you chose the jail therapy or the knee replacement,

2457
02:20:11,959 --> 02:20:16,800
Speaker 8: you need physical therapy. You need a physical therapist that

2458
02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:22,920
Speaker 8: really engages you. And somebody who is going to show doctor.

2459
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:25,320
Speaker 1: A hold up a response there for a second doctor.

2460
02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:27,240
Speaker 1: We've got to take a short break so our stations

2461
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:29,800
Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line. Family, you got to

2462
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 1: question a health concern or you know somebody who does

2463
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:34,920
Speaker 1: reach out to doctor A. You get both. You get

2464
02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:38,760
Speaker 1: both opinions, a traditional doctor's opinion and a natural panic

2465
02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 1: doctor's opinion. All you got to do is give us

2466
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:42,200
Speaker 1: a call it eight hundred and four or five zero

2467
02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:45,199
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take you phone calls

2468
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:47,720
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us

2469
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:49,880
Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning with our guest, the doctor A.

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02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he's a traditional dictor, you know, with

2471
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 1: the white suits and holistic doctor. And that's a rare occurrence,

2472
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:59,040
Speaker 1: especially in our community. I know how it is. You're

2473
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:00,520
Speaker 1: trying to find a doctor, and then when you do

2474
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 1: find a doctor and may get ten to fifteen minutes conversation,

2475
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,520
Speaker 1: you're in and you're out if you can get an appointment.

2476
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:08,320
Speaker 1: So if you've got a health concern, or you know

2477
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:10,120
Speaker 1: somebody's got a health concern, this is the lady you

2478
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:13,199
Speaker 1: need to talk to. Family, and please please take advantage

2479
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 1: of an expertise. You don't have to use your real

2480
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 1: name either or a real city, but doctor A is

2481
02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 1: here to care for you. You don't get that kind

2482
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 1: of care, especially if those doctors who don't look like us,

2483
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:24,520
Speaker 1: they don't care about us. Let's be honest with most

2484
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:26,640
Speaker 1: of it, at least Johnny, I'll let you finish your

2485
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 1: question or doctor A was was responding to Johnny's question

2486
02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:31,240
Speaker 1: about a knee problem. So doctor almert you finishing.

2487
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 8: Let me let me be very specific, Carl. I had

2488
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:40,960
Speaker 8: to ask Johnny questions because of the fact that osteoarthritis

2489
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:46,800
Speaker 8: affects so broadly across this country. The baby boomers are aging,

2490
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:51,200
Speaker 8: so with aging baby boomers, they all have osteoarthritis. So

2491
02:21:51,480 --> 02:21:55,840
Speaker 8: for my comprehension from him, he's a former athlete and

2492
02:21:56,120 --> 02:22:01,440
Speaker 8: he approached a non surgical modality of help. And what

2493
02:22:01,600 --> 02:22:06,119
Speaker 8: I'm basically advising him is this, as a heavyweight brother,

2494
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:10,080
Speaker 8: he probably would want to stay out of the operating room,

2495
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:14,960
Speaker 8: which means obesity or anything near obesity is a risk

2496
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:18,119
Speaker 8: factor for surgery. It's a risk factor for being put

2497
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 8: under anesthesia. So it needs to be taken into account

2498
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:26,640
Speaker 8: in terms of what modality is best for me as

2499
02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:32,600
Speaker 8: an individual. Broadly, there's so many options to treat osteoathritis

2500
02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 8: from medications, injections, topical agents, natural remedies, acupressure, acupuncture, taking

2501
02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:50,360
Speaker 8: glucosamine to a condroiten, getting massage, therapy, etc. Overall, the

2502
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 8: specific advice is person by person, but in general, osteoathritis

2503
02:22:56,920 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 8: is something Once you get it, you're not gonna resolve it.

2504
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:04,080
Speaker 8: Like Bell's palsy. You've got it for life. So my

2505
02:23:04,280 --> 02:23:09,720
Speaker 8: advice basically to Johnny, you need to be taking conjoining

2506
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:13,879
Speaker 8: and glucosamine. Those are supplements. Take them for the rest

2507
02:23:13,959 --> 02:23:18,200
Speaker 8: of your life. That the modality that you picked may

2508
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:22,560
Speaker 8: only last for a certain amount of time unless you

2509
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 8: do the backup work. I advise you to get a

2510
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:29,640
Speaker 8: physical therapist, not for the rest of your life, but

2511
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:33,240
Speaker 8: perhaps for three months, so that that person can guide

2512
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:37,120
Speaker 8: you post treatment. What do you now need to do

2513
02:23:37,400 --> 02:23:43,000
Speaker 8: to maintain and not deteriorate your new functioning need? What

2514
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:45,840
Speaker 8: do you need to do to prevent the wear and

2515
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:49,120
Speaker 8: tear that will put you back in the gutter? Back

2516
02:23:49,160 --> 02:23:53,520
Speaker 8: at step one? How can you prevent forward going needing

2517
02:23:53,560 --> 02:23:57,160
Speaker 8: a knee replacement? Those are your issues. Thank you so

2518
02:23:57,320 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 8: much for calling from California.

2519
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:02,360
Speaker 7: I just had one one thing to say. You know,

2520
02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 7: it's like, thus far the pain, the pain has subsidy.

2521
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:11,560
Speaker 7: You know, subsidy e mentally Okay, I couldn't And not

2522
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:13,360
Speaker 7: only that, you know it's like, you know, my whole

2523
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:17,640
Speaker 7: you know, it's I And what it is is like

2524
02:24:17,720 --> 02:24:20,240
Speaker 7: I can't I couldn't get up to do anything. Okay.

2525
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:23,960
Speaker 7: Now since I had that procedure, I'm mobile. I am

2526
02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:25,920
Speaker 7: more mobile now that I've had been I have been

2527
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:28,760
Speaker 7: in years. Okay. And that you know, and that and

2528
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,400
Speaker 7: that you know, and I'm working. I'm working on the

2529
02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:34,360
Speaker 7: wait issue. Okay. Now, once I work on the wait issue,

2530
02:24:34,520 --> 02:24:36,600
Speaker 7: you know, would it still be a viable thing for

2531
02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:38,880
Speaker 7: people to, you know, to look into because it's not

2532
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 7: a basic I mean, you know, I wasn't. I wasn't.

2533
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:42,879
Speaker 7: I wasn't cut.

2534
02:24:43,959 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 8: That's right, that's right.

2535
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 7: No.

2536
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:49,840
Speaker 8: And again, non invasive options do exist, and for certain

2537
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 8: people they're phenomenal. So for you, you had a phenomenal outcome.

2538
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:57,360
Speaker 8: I want you to be able to maintain that over

2539
02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:00,400
Speaker 8: the next ten fifteen years. And the things you're talking

2540
02:25:00,400 --> 02:25:03,000
Speaker 8: about are going to maintain that outcome. I don't want

2541
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:05,959
Speaker 8: you to have a phenomenal outcome that goes to squat

2542
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:07,280
Speaker 8: within twenty four months.

2543
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 7: And I agree with you know that, because see the

2544
02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:12,920
Speaker 7: way the greatest thing is done. They went in you know,

2545
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:15,600
Speaker 7: it was my right knee. They went into my left

2546
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 7: grain to do something. Am I right my right knee,

2547
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 7: which I think is right and very interesting.

2548
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 11: You know.

2549
02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:26,080
Speaker 7: And and I'm having you my other need done next month,

2550
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:29,560
Speaker 7: you know. And and I want to try this, you know.

2551
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:31,600
Speaker 7: And they say that it's it's not it's just a

2552
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:34,800
Speaker 7: thing that can go from from two to five years,

2553
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:37,760
Speaker 7: and you can, I can have it done again. And

2554
02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 7: but for me, it was the pain. I mean, I mean,

2555
02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:43,640
Speaker 7: when you can for it, not just.

2556
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:47,600
Speaker 8: Not just for you, not just for you, Johnny, for everybody. Okay,

2557
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:52,160
Speaker 8: you don't die of osteoarthritis, but your quality of life

2558
02:25:52,760 --> 02:25:57,400
Speaker 8: is unbearable. So for everyone, the the the rate limiting

2559
02:25:57,560 --> 02:26:00,600
Speaker 8: factor is the pain. And I am so grateful to

2560
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:03,520
Speaker 8: God that you got a phenomenal outcome and that you're

2561
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:05,600
Speaker 8: now paying free and you can move again.

2562
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:09,800
Speaker 7: Thank you. And and I see that. And that's the thing.

2563
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 7: But I also wonder which I can call you next time.

2564
02:26:12,959 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 7: I have a nephew. He has he has constant hiccups. Okay,

2565
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:18,800
Speaker 7: they've done everything, they can't they don't. They don't know

2566
02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:20,959
Speaker 7: what's going on with him. Next month, when you when

2567
02:26:20,959 --> 02:26:23,080
Speaker 7: you're on you know, I would like to address that's

2568
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 7: for him because you know it's you know, he's you know,

2569
02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 7: he can't he can't hold food down. Okay, you know,

2570
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:31,840
Speaker 7: and and uh and and that was another part of

2571
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:34,440
Speaker 7: this conversation. I wanted to address this for him, you know,

2572
02:26:34,560 --> 02:26:37,360
Speaker 7: and what he could do for for the hiccups that

2573
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:37,760
Speaker 7: he has.

2574
02:26:37,959 --> 02:26:43,120
Speaker 1: And uh, all right, I think we're Johnny hung up.

2575
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:46,039
Speaker 1: But doctor, you want to address that, yes.

2576
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:50,360
Speaker 8: Very briefly so that we can get to more callers. Again.

2577
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:54,200
Speaker 8: It's it's very difficult to assess when you don't know

2578
02:26:54,440 --> 02:26:57,720
Speaker 8: a full patient history. Of course, you know, part of

2579
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:01,840
Speaker 8: how we operate as doctors limited time or not. You know,

2580
02:27:01,959 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 8: that's what we have nurses and medical assistance for. We

2581
02:27:04,959 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 8: need your full history, age, body characteristics. We do a

2582
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:15,119
Speaker 8: full physical exam, family history, lifestyle, all these things matter.

2583
02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:19,640
Speaker 8: So loosely, not knowing age of medical history nothing. I

2584
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:21,800
Speaker 8: don't know if this is a child with cerebral palsy

2585
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:27,640
Speaker 8: or what hiccups involve. What you're esophagus. So if you're

2586
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:31,720
Speaker 8: hiccupping and hiccupping, you need an E and T. There

2587
02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:36,240
Speaker 8: is an esophagial problem, and it may be psychological, it

2588
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:39,160
Speaker 8: may not be physical, because it sounds like they did

2589
02:27:39,280 --> 02:27:43,280
Speaker 8: the basic tests for something physical as a cause for hiccup.

2590
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:47,360
Speaker 8: This could be anxiety, This could be so many different things,

2591
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:50,920
Speaker 8: so an E and T. And if you saw one,

2592
02:27:51,080 --> 02:27:54,320
Speaker 8: see another one, get a second opinion. Always, when you're

2593
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:58,440
Speaker 8: not satisfied, Pan African people go to somebody else and

2594
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:01,560
Speaker 8: ask the same question again, just like you did with mama.

2595
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 8: You go to Mama, you don't like what she said.

2596
02:28:03,879 --> 02:28:05,920
Speaker 8: Now you go to Daddy. Now you go to Auntie.

2597
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:09,040
Speaker 8: Kids keep asking until they get the answer they want.

2598
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,360
Speaker 8: Be like a kid with your help, get the answer

2599
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:14,440
Speaker 8: you want. Don't just stop?

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02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:16,160
Speaker 3: All right?

2601
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 1: Ten half that top of thew and I hope you

2602
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:21,920
Speaker 1: mean that sincerely, because our next call is mom, Grand

2603
02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:25,279
Speaker 1: rising Mom. Doctor Benita Thompson, welcome to the program.

2604
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:32,879
Speaker 10: Thank you Carl for having this wonderful program, and thank

2605
02:28:32,959 --> 02:28:39,000
Speaker 10: you Doctor A for celebrating Tony Morrison's birthday with health information.

2606
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:47,360
Speaker 10: You are the Black community's physicians general. And as as

2607
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 10: as you said, Carl, this wonderful program can only be

2608
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 10: a confrontation with very very short consultations. And I suggest

2609
02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:03,440
Speaker 10: that your listeners who need more consulting call me at

2610
02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 10: doctor A's booking agent for a private consultation, a private consultation,

2611
02:29:11,720 --> 02:29:16,360
Speaker 10: also a speaking engagement or workshops. And my phone number

2612
02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:21,199
Speaker 10: is two O two two seven zero three two six six.

2613
02:29:23,720 --> 02:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Best our number again, doctor Thompson to zero two.

2614
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:34,480
Speaker 10: Two seven zero three two sixty six.

2615
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:38,920
Speaker 11: All right, that's that's my that's.

2616
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:41,800
Speaker 8: My number one fan. So if you text, if you

2617
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:45,959
Speaker 8: text doctor A to that number, then we can certainly

2618
02:29:46,120 --> 02:29:51,240
Speaker 8: schedule a twenty minute forty minute consultation or uh, you know,

2619
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:54,000
Speaker 8: we can set up a speaking engagement. And you know

2620
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:57,119
Speaker 8: what she made me. Remember, Carl, I will be making

2621
02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 8: a house call to Roots at the end of the month.

2622
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:03,280
Speaker 8: This is Heart Health Awareness Month in February, so the

2623
02:30:03,360 --> 02:30:08,000
Speaker 8: American Heart Association focuses on what things we can do

2624
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:12,280
Speaker 8: to improve our heart health. Heart disease is the number

2625
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,800
Speaker 8: one killer in this country, especially of Black people, and

2626
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:19,760
Speaker 8: especially of Black women. Ever since nineteen eighty four, Carl,

2627
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:24,279
Speaker 8: more women than men die of heart disease. So on Saturday,

2628
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:27,280
Speaker 8: the twenty eighth, I'll be live and in person at

2629
02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:30,879
Speaker 8: Roots for a free event for the community. A lot

2630
02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:32,800
Speaker 8: of powerful people going to be in DC at the

2631
02:30:32,879 --> 02:30:37,360
Speaker 8: end of February, not just Ayana Gregory, but Bernita's daughter.

2632
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:41,440
Speaker 8: So be there or be square. Come to the DMV

2633
02:30:41,959 --> 02:30:44,360
Speaker 8: at the end of February. We will all be there,

2634
02:30:44,879 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 8: but I'll be at Roots.

2635
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,959
Speaker 1: From hey, ladies, let me ask you this though, ladies,

2636
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:52,240
Speaker 1: for the folks who are not in Washington, DC, can

2637
02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:54,240
Speaker 1: you tell me about Roots? What is Roots?

2638
02:30:55,400 --> 02:30:55,560
Speaker 9: Oh?

2639
02:30:55,800 --> 02:31:01,280
Speaker 8: Thank you Carl. That's true. So Roots is a afrocentric

2640
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:06,760
Speaker 8: learning institution for children. And this was founded by both

2641
02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:11,400
Speaker 8: of my parents in the year nineteen seventy seven. So literally,

2642
02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:16,359
Speaker 8: as Jesse Jackson, we just lost the Reverend. He transitioned

2643
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:21,800
Speaker 8: to our ancestors. But Reverend Jackson was starting the Rainbow

2644
02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:25,640
Speaker 8: Coalition at the same time that Roots was being founded.

2645
02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:30,640
Speaker 8: So back in the powerful seventies, this school was the

2646
02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:34,840
Speaker 8: post civil rights answer to we don't want to just

2647
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:39,160
Speaker 8: accept public education. And Bernita Thompson has written out an

2648
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:46,560
Speaker 8: afrocentric textbook curriculum and devised stem and reading and arts

2649
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:50,800
Speaker 8: and music therapy and just so many modalities. But most

2650
02:31:50,879 --> 02:31:55,959
Speaker 8: importantly it's what Jesse Jackson I am somebody, I'm Black,

2651
02:31:56,480 --> 02:31:59,600
Speaker 8: I madter, and who I am today is only a

2652
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:03,120
Speaker 8: piece of who God created me to be. So she

2653
02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:06,400
Speaker 8: teaches that philosophy, you come out of Roots, you know

2654
02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:10,760
Speaker 8: I'm a strong African sister, I'm a strong African brother,

2655
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 8: and you can step forward into white America with confidence,

2656
02:32:15,959 --> 02:32:19,960
Speaker 8: with self esteem and not self mutilate. So Roots has

2657
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:26,160
Speaker 8: now graduated almost fifty years of proud African people in

2658
02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:29,640
Speaker 8: this country. And then the second school was opened in

2659
02:32:29,800 --> 02:32:35,240
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety nine. The charter school made that education available

2660
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:40,840
Speaker 8: to anybody and everybody. It availed the curriculum that she

2661
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:46,560
Speaker 8: devised at a private school to everybody because in the DMV,

2662
02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:50,520
Speaker 8: as you know, Carl, charter schools are starting to slowly

2663
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:55,560
Speaker 8: replace public schools. And unfortunately that was the MAGA plan

2664
02:32:55,879 --> 02:32:59,000
Speaker 8: out the gate. Okay, a part of Project twenty twenty

2665
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:03,440
Speaker 8: five Dominate public education, get all black and brown people

2666
02:33:04,240 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 8: back in the prison system. And we got more black

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02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:09,960
Speaker 8: men in the prison system than we had on the

2668
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:14,520
Speaker 8: fields during slavery. So it's working. We need more schools

2669
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:15,560
Speaker 8: like Roots.

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02:33:16,959 --> 02:33:19,560
Speaker 1: And doctor Thomson Hack of folks. If they're in a

2671
02:33:19,680 --> 02:33:23,080
Speaker 1: DNV or close by and they want to tend Roots,

2672
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:25,280
Speaker 1: is it a phonob you can share with us this morning?

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02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 5: They would go on.

2674
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:33,960
Speaker 10: Myschool DC dot org and sign up for Roots. We

2675
02:33:34,120 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 10: have our open house, we have we're accepting people right now.

2676
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:47,760
Speaker 10: It is the only afrocentric education that is free in Washington, DC.

2677
02:33:48,440 --> 02:33:53,920
Speaker 10: The only free African centered education is Roots Public Charter

2678
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:59,879
Speaker 10: School for children from three years old up through fifth grade.

2679
02:34:00,480 --> 02:34:03,960
Speaker 10: If you're in the DC area, go right now on

2680
02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:10,480
Speaker 10: my school DC dot or and put Roots down as

2681
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:11,760
Speaker 10: your number one.

2682
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 5: School to go to.

2683
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:19,360
Speaker 10: You can also call me to go two to seven

2684
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:21,800
Speaker 10: zero three two sixty six.

2685
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:24,880
Speaker 1: And let me just say this family doctor as a

2686
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:28,440
Speaker 1: product of Roots Schools afrocentric school. He's a medical doctor,

2687
02:34:28,560 --> 02:34:31,000
Speaker 1: she went to med school. She's got it all. So

2688
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:34,440
Speaker 1: those of you who have doubts about afrocentric schools, she's

2689
02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:36,680
Speaker 1: a living proof. But let me say this before we'll

2690
02:34:36,760 --> 02:34:39,160
Speaker 1: let you go, Dr Thompson, because you've got some more folks.

2691
02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Wanted to talk to your daughter.

2692
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:40,680
Speaker 14: Uh.

2693
02:34:41,440 --> 02:34:43,240
Speaker 1: This person just sent me a tweet and he says,

2694
02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:46,280
Speaker 1: please express the tremendous love and appreciation we have for

2695
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Roots Education on doctor Thompson. It's coming from Baba Mark,

2696
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:52,000
Speaker 1: so he wanted to know that. It's got a tweet

2697
02:34:52,040 --> 02:34:57,039
Speaker 1: in the studio for you guys. Thank you, all right,

2698
02:34:57,120 --> 02:35:01,720
Speaker 1: thank you, doctor Thompson. You're welcome, all right, family, fifteen

2699
02:35:02,360 --> 02:35:05,119
Speaker 1: at fifteen after the topic, I thank you for loaning

2700
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:06,959
Speaker 1: your daughter for us and what she's doing for us.

2701
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 1: This morning. Anonymous is calling from North Henderson in North

2702
02:35:10,760 --> 02:35:13,720
Speaker 1: Carolina on line five. Anonymous grand Rising, you're I'm with

2703
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:14,160
Speaker 1: doctor A.

2704
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 5: Grand Rosin. Good morning.

2705
02:35:19,760 --> 02:35:24,039
Speaker 8: Welcome, welcome, welcome, Thank you for calling from North Carolina.

2706
02:35:24,200 --> 02:35:26,600
Speaker 8: I went to college in North Carolina. Thank you for

2707
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:27,160
Speaker 8: checking in.

2708
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:29,360
Speaker 5: All right, great.

2709
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:34,480
Speaker 7: I'm a diabety first of all, and I have an

2710
02:35:34,480 --> 02:35:38,720
Speaker 7: apartment for my regular check up on Friday. But I'm lately,

2711
02:35:38,840 --> 02:35:41,240
Speaker 7: last couple of weeks, I've been experiencing some swelling in

2712
02:35:41,320 --> 02:35:44,840
Speaker 7: my legs, ankles and feet. I mean, I don't know

2713
02:35:44,920 --> 02:35:47,920
Speaker 7: what's going on, but I, like I said, I do

2714
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:49,320
Speaker 7: have an apartment on Friday.

2715
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 1: All right too, well, hold on, Anonymous. We got to

2716
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:54,120
Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments and I'll let doctor

2717
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,320
Speaker 1: A respond. A family, you two can get in on

2718
02:35:56,440 --> 02:35:59,400
Speaker 1: this conversation. You've know someone who's got a health challenge,

2719
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:02,040
Speaker 1: a health question, or if you do, or you go

2720
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:04,960
Speaker 1: on to just get a second opinion, take advantage of

2721
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:08,480
Speaker 1: doctor A's expertise, because you can get the traditional response,

2722
02:36:08,560 --> 02:36:11,000
Speaker 1: you can get holistic response, and you know how to

2723
02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:12,720
Speaker 1: reach her. It's real simple and by the way, you

2724
02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:14,320
Speaker 1: don't have to use your real name or your real

2725
02:36:14,400 --> 02:36:18,520
Speaker 1: city just like Anonymous did, because she doesn't. She doesn't

2726
02:36:18,520 --> 02:36:21,160
Speaker 1: concern where you are, but she is concerned about your health.

2727
02:36:21,440 --> 02:36:23,360
Speaker 1: You can reach her this morning at eight hundred four

2728
02:36:23,440 --> 02:36:26,440
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

2729
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:29,200
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for

2730
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:31,680
Speaker 1: rolling with us on this Wednesday morning with our guess doctor.

2731
02:36:31,720 --> 02:36:34,680
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, she's a holistic also traditional doctors. Well,

2732
02:36:34,840 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 1: she can write prescriptions if you will, but you have

2733
02:36:37,800 --> 02:36:42,160
Speaker 1: a choice if you have a medical question, take advantage

2734
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:44,440
Speaker 1: of her expertise. You can reach her at eight hundred

2735
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:47,240
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Before we

2736
02:36:47,320 --> 02:36:49,360
Speaker 1: left for the break, we're speaking of anonymous callers from

2737
02:36:49,800 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 1: North Henderson in North Carolina about a question about diabetes.

2738
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:56,280
Speaker 1: So Doc, I'm gonna let your response to mis anonymous.

2739
02:36:57,600 --> 02:37:01,480
Speaker 8: Okay, once again, Carl, I have to qualify for the

2740
02:37:01,640 --> 02:37:08,400
Speaker 8: listener that I'm speaking extremely broadly. I don't know the

2741
02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:13,240
Speaker 8: North Carolina sister's age, how long she's been diabetic, what

2742
02:37:13,400 --> 02:37:18,160
Speaker 8: her comorbidities are, etc. All of those things actually affect

2743
02:37:18,680 --> 02:37:24,760
Speaker 8: the physical symptom of swollen feet. But in general, to

2744
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 8: address all the listeners across the country, diabetes is a

2745
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:36,680
Speaker 8: deadly disease. Unlike Bell's palsy, unlike osteoarthritis. Both of those

2746
02:37:36,760 --> 02:37:40,160
Speaker 8: things will cripple your quality of life, but you could

2747
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:44,640
Speaker 8: still live to two hundred were that possible, not with diabetes.

2748
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:50,520
Speaker 8: So diabetes is so important as a comorbidity. You can't

2749
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:54,680
Speaker 8: mention anything else about a human being without mentioning that

2750
02:37:54,800 --> 02:38:00,480
Speaker 8: they're diabetic. It becomes a defining characteristic How much so,

2751
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:06,040
Speaker 8: my husband actually dropped into a coma from diabetes with

2752
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:09,920
Speaker 8: a blood sugar over eight hundred, which really should not

2753
02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:14,000
Speaker 8: be humanly possible, and he never had been previously diagnosed.

2754
02:38:14,280 --> 02:38:18,920
Speaker 8: That is to say, as a community of afrocentric people,

2755
02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:22,800
Speaker 8: we all actually need to know our blood glucose level.

2756
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:28,160
Speaker 8: Diabetes is that prevalent in our community. Everyone should quote

2757
02:38:28,320 --> 02:38:31,840
Speaker 8: know their numbers. In this heart health month of February,

2758
02:38:32,360 --> 02:38:36,160
Speaker 8: everyone should know what is my average blood pressure? What

2759
02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:39,160
Speaker 8: is my average blood sugar? When I wake up first

2760
02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:41,240
Speaker 8: thing in the morning and I've had nothing to eat

2761
02:38:41,320 --> 02:38:43,920
Speaker 8: or drink all night, what am I first thing in

2762
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:46,640
Speaker 8: the morning, What am I two hours after I eat.

2763
02:38:48,480 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 8: Then you know if you are or are not diabetic,

2764
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:54,439
Speaker 8: because some of us are and we're just not diagnosed

2765
02:38:54,680 --> 02:38:58,679
Speaker 8: because we haven't gone to the doctor. Swollen feet in diabetes,

2766
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:04,240
Speaker 8: most are is from several things. Number One, poor circulation.

2767
02:39:04,879 --> 02:39:09,320
Speaker 8: See diabetes affects your blood. It affects how blood moves

2768
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:12,440
Speaker 8: through your body. It affects your blood vessels. When you

2769
02:39:12,560 --> 02:39:16,680
Speaker 8: have diabetes, your blood vessels are all gunked up like

2770
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:20,440
Speaker 8: dirty pipes. Okay, imagine water trying to move through your

2771
02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:23,200
Speaker 8: pipes and there's gunk all in the pipes and you

2772
02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:27,760
Speaker 8: need draino. That is the blood vessels of a diabetic.

2773
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:32,720
Speaker 8: You have fluid build up. Your lymphatic system doesn't work. Okay,

2774
02:39:33,160 --> 02:39:38,760
Speaker 8: So to improved limphatic drainage, I would recommend anonymous begin

2775
02:39:38,959 --> 02:39:42,520
Speaker 8: to drink green tea. Get the fluid out of your body.

2776
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:46,040
Speaker 8: It's building up below your knee all the way down

2777
02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:49,200
Speaker 8: to your toes. Okay, you have fluid build up. You

2778
02:39:49,320 --> 02:39:53,080
Speaker 8: have poor circulation, which you can't just one, two, three fix.

2779
02:39:54,560 --> 02:39:57,760
Speaker 8: You may have kidney issues, and you may have neuropathy,

2780
02:39:57,879 --> 02:40:01,320
Speaker 8: which is nerds damage. All of these things are caused

2781
02:40:01,360 --> 02:40:06,560
Speaker 8: by one thing. High blood sugar. So the puffiness, the tightness,

2782
02:40:06,720 --> 02:40:10,640
Speaker 8: the tenderness in your ankles and feet, that's what that's

2783
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:17,360
Speaker 8: coming from. Poor circulation and high blood sugar causes weak

2784
02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:21,640
Speaker 8: blood vessels. So your doctor when you go tomorrow, I

2785
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:24,840
Speaker 8: think you said, needs to be assessing do you have

2786
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:30,080
Speaker 8: vascular disease, do you have neuropathy? Do you now have

2787
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:36,959
Speaker 8: another condition other than the diabetes. The technical medical word

2788
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:40,600
Speaker 8: for the puffy feet and ankles, you have peripheral edema.

2789
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:43,600
Speaker 8: They also need to make sure that you don't have

2790
02:40:43,840 --> 02:40:48,760
Speaker 8: kidney damage, that you don't have congestive heart failure. So

2791
02:40:48,959 --> 02:40:54,000
Speaker 8: those are some of the explanations. You can elevate your feet,

2792
02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:58,560
Speaker 8: So elevating your feet, drinking green tea, and get to

2793
02:40:58,680 --> 02:41:00,520
Speaker 8: your doctor. That's my advice.

2794
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:05,160
Speaker 1: All right, thank you anonymous. Let me answer this question

2795
02:41:05,360 --> 02:41:09,560
Speaker 1: about diabetes. Thank you anonymous. Question do you get diabetes

2796
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 1: from eating sweets? Sweet stuff?

2797
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:14,200
Speaker 10: Carl?

2798
02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,000
Speaker 8: What a wonderful question, What a wonderful question. There are

2799
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:22,320
Speaker 8: two fundamental types of diabetes, okay, Type one that's genetic.

2800
02:41:22,760 --> 02:41:27,039
Speaker 8: That's genetic, okay, so that's like drawing the bad straw.

2801
02:41:28,440 --> 02:41:32,080
Speaker 8: There's a juvenile diabetes that they didn't do anything to

2802
02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:35,240
Speaker 8: earn that diabetes. It is not their fault because they

2803
02:41:35,400 --> 02:41:39,240
Speaker 8: ate too much candy. Okay, So if you have juvenile

2804
02:41:39,360 --> 02:41:43,880
Speaker 8: diabetes or type one diabetes, the organ called you're pancreas

2805
02:41:44,440 --> 02:41:48,960
Speaker 8: doesn't make insulin, so you're screwed out the gate. You

2806
02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:54,080
Speaker 8: can die. So if a type one diabetic, unfortunately we

2807
02:41:54,200 --> 02:41:57,760
Speaker 8: have one at roots, if he doesn't get his insulin,

2808
02:41:58,400 --> 02:42:01,760
Speaker 8: it becomes a life threatening situation. Cua. His blood sugar

2809
02:42:01,840 --> 02:42:05,080
Speaker 8: can go too high or too low because his body

2810
02:42:05,240 --> 02:42:08,200
Speaker 8: doesn't make the insulin and it has to be given.

2811
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:13,879
Speaker 8: There's another type of diabetes, Carl. That is the person's fault. Partially.

2812
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:22,320
Speaker 8: Obesity comes from what over eating? Over eating, Yes, there

2813
02:42:22,360 --> 02:42:25,600
Speaker 8: can be a metabolic problem more often than not, it's

2814
02:42:25,680 --> 02:42:29,840
Speaker 8: not You can have a thyroid problem or other sluggish

2815
02:42:29,959 --> 02:42:34,039
Speaker 8: indocrine system that made you obese for no good reason.

2816
02:42:34,280 --> 02:42:38,320
Speaker 8: That's usually not the problem, especially in America. Okay, we're

2817
02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:42,279
Speaker 8: stressed out and so we self medicate with drugs, alcohol,

2818
02:42:42,400 --> 02:42:46,280
Speaker 8: and food. That's why we have an obesity crisis. We're

2819
02:42:46,360 --> 02:42:49,959
Speaker 8: self medicating instead of getting a therapist and getting well,

2820
02:42:50,520 --> 02:42:53,640
Speaker 8: we want to shove a hamburger, a hot dog, and

2821
02:42:53,800 --> 02:42:57,680
Speaker 8: mostly sweets. See I know from college, the more you're

2822
02:42:57,720 --> 02:43:02,880
Speaker 8: stressed out, you actually do crave carbohydrates also on your

2823
02:43:02,920 --> 02:43:08,400
Speaker 8: menstrual period, so it's hormonal and it's emotional, it's psychological,

2824
02:43:08,600 --> 02:43:13,440
Speaker 8: but we overeat. So once you're obese, your body literally

2825
02:43:13,600 --> 02:43:18,360
Speaker 8: cannot keep up. You have more body fat than your

2826
02:43:18,400 --> 02:43:23,680
Speaker 8: pancreas can possibly make an insulin. So type two diabetes, Carl,

2827
02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:28,320
Speaker 8: you are overweight, your body cannot keep up with you.

2828
02:43:28,879 --> 02:43:32,120
Speaker 8: It's cranking out insulin and you keep on cranking in

2829
02:43:32,240 --> 02:43:35,800
Speaker 8: the carbs. So you've overdone it and now you need

2830
02:43:35,920 --> 02:43:39,920
Speaker 8: medication for type two diabetes. So we have two fundamental types.

2831
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:40,960
Speaker 8: Excellent question.

2832
02:43:42,760 --> 02:43:44,440
Speaker 1: All right, twenty eight After the top of that, some

2833
02:43:44,520 --> 02:43:46,760
Speaker 1: mother folks want to talk to you, Jason, DC Jays

2834
02:43:46,840 --> 02:43:48,640
Speaker 1: online two Grand Rising Jay.

2835
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:53,600
Speaker 7: You're on with doctor A, Grand Rising Doctor A, and

2836
02:43:53,720 --> 02:43:58,240
Speaker 7: thank you for being here. I have a couple of issues.

2837
02:43:58,360 --> 02:44:02,400
Speaker 7: One is talking them all odd health month. One is

2838
02:44:02,480 --> 02:44:06,440
Speaker 7: a cholesterol issue that I was advised to deal with

2839
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:10,240
Speaker 7: and deal with her from a vegan perspective. And another

2840
02:44:10,320 --> 02:44:12,320
Speaker 7: big issue I want you to dress if you can,

2841
02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:19,279
Speaker 7: is I have an issue with mucus, constantly having mucus

2842
02:44:19,400 --> 02:44:23,279
Speaker 7: that I have to clear from from my body for background,

2843
02:44:23,440 --> 02:44:27,400
Speaker 7: I'm a older black mail and only may I take

2844
02:44:27,480 --> 02:44:31,199
Speaker 7: madas for a high blood pressure and a large cross state.

2845
02:44:31,959 --> 02:44:36,160
Speaker 7: And from the vegan perspective, when you're a dressed that

2846
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:38,520
Speaker 7: can you can you say what's what's good and some

2847
02:44:38,760 --> 02:44:41,120
Speaker 7: things to stay away from because I know everything vegan

2848
02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:42,320
Speaker 7: is not really good for you.

2849
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:42,959
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2850
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:50,040
Speaker 8: Well, you know what color you are a proof that

2851
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:53,560
Speaker 8: we are learning as a community right here in real time.

2852
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:57,560
Speaker 8: Thank you for giving me the additional information so that

2853
02:44:57,680 --> 02:45:01,480
Speaker 8: I could feed you more intentional only and more specifically.

2854
02:45:02,800 --> 02:45:08,000
Speaker 8: The first thing really in terms of your cholesterol, we

2855
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:11,760
Speaker 8: certainly I said earlier in the show, that we want

2856
02:45:11,959 --> 02:45:13,760
Speaker 8: to know our numbers.

2857
02:45:14,560 --> 02:45:14,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

2858
02:45:14,920 --> 02:45:19,760
Speaker 8: Cholesterol testing is something that once again on an average

2859
02:45:19,840 --> 02:45:23,920
Speaker 8: age of thirty. But if you have comorbidities okay, meaning

2860
02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:28,039
Speaker 8: you're a sick person, not a well person. You've got diseases,

2861
02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 8: You've got illnesses, maybe earlier than thirty. If you have

2862
02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:36,720
Speaker 8: a high family history of heart disease, maybe earlier. You

2863
02:45:36,840 --> 02:45:41,640
Speaker 8: may have genetic factors. But in general adults, you should

2864
02:45:41,720 --> 02:45:46,439
Speaker 8: know your blood pressure, your blood sugar, your blood cholesterol

2865
02:45:46,800 --> 02:45:51,840
Speaker 8: is a panel. Your total cholesterol should be under two hundred.

2866
02:45:52,440 --> 02:45:57,840
Speaker 8: That's the total cholesterol. But then you've got subcomponents of

2867
02:45:57,959 --> 02:46:03,279
Speaker 8: that panel. There's an l DL. When you think of LDL,

2868
02:46:04,160 --> 02:46:09,520
Speaker 8: think of low low low. So you want this less

2869
02:46:09,680 --> 02:46:13,920
Speaker 8: than one hundred. You don't want to high LDL. You

2870
02:46:14,080 --> 02:46:21,280
Speaker 8: have an HDL, HGL high high high, So the higher

2871
02:46:21,640 --> 02:46:26,880
Speaker 8: the better. Starting at the number sixty and going up

2872
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:31,680
Speaker 8: from there, you also have triglycerides, then that should be

2873
02:46:32,120 --> 02:46:36,600
Speaker 8: under one hundred and fifty. So again total cholesterol less

2874
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:43,160
Speaker 8: than two hundred, LDL, less than one hundred HGL. We

2875
02:46:43,280 --> 02:46:48,480
Speaker 8: want to go high sixty and above triglycerides one fifty.

2876
02:46:49,879 --> 02:46:54,760
Speaker 8: So in general, if you're saying that, and again instruct me, brother,

2877
02:46:54,879 --> 02:46:59,040
Speaker 8: so that I'm being intentional with your health. You weren't

2878
02:46:59,080 --> 02:47:07,800
Speaker 8: always told that you have a high cholesterol hung oh okay, okay, okay, okay. Well,

2879
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:13,320
Speaker 8: to control our cholesterol, what are the things that are

2880
02:47:13,440 --> 02:47:15,920
Speaker 8: going to be good? What are the things that are

2881
02:47:15,959 --> 02:47:21,280
Speaker 8: going to get those numbers into the categories that I

2882
02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:26,160
Speaker 8: just described for you? It's really basic. The whole foods

2883
02:47:26,280 --> 02:47:30,400
Speaker 8: that I was already talking to previous callers about, it's

2884
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:35,000
Speaker 8: that exact same instruction. You want half your plate to

2885
02:47:35,160 --> 02:47:39,720
Speaker 8: be fruit and vegetable, and then a quarter of your

2886
02:47:39,800 --> 02:47:44,560
Speaker 8: plate is protein, so that right there, you're not having

2887
02:47:44,640 --> 02:47:49,840
Speaker 8: a carb dominated nutrition. In general, we want more fiber. Right,

2888
02:47:50,360 --> 02:47:53,920
Speaker 8: fruit is fiber. We want more fiber in our diet.

2889
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:57,760
Speaker 8: Most of us do not take in adequate amounts of

2890
02:47:57,840 --> 02:48:01,200
Speaker 8: fiber on a daily basis. Any of us eat when

2891
02:48:01,240 --> 02:48:04,800
Speaker 8: we need to be drinking. We're thirsty and we're thinking

2892
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:10,000
Speaker 8: it's a hunger reflects. So number one, we need to

2893
02:48:10,200 --> 02:48:13,760
Speaker 8: just revamp how we eat. We need to start waking

2894
02:48:13,959 --> 02:48:18,480
Speaker 8: up and jump starting our metabolism. Don't wake up like

2895
02:48:18,680 --> 02:48:22,160
Speaker 8: my wonderful friend. I won't out her on the show,

2896
02:48:22,959 --> 02:48:27,200
Speaker 8: but she's a chain smoker. That's problem number one. Problem

2897
02:48:27,320 --> 02:48:31,160
Speaker 8: number two, she's proud to not eat until seven at night.

2898
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:35,840
Speaker 8: You train wreck your metabolism by doing that. Wake up.

2899
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:38,920
Speaker 8: You want your brain to be awake, so eat. It

2900
02:48:39,120 --> 02:48:43,279
Speaker 8: is now unethical to send a child to school without breakfast.

2901
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:45,200
Speaker 8: That's why we have free breakfasts.

2902
02:48:45,760 --> 02:48:46,680
Speaker 13: You know what that means.

2903
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:52,680
Speaker 8: It's been proven that the child cannot scholastically achieve with

2904
02:48:52,879 --> 02:48:56,360
Speaker 8: no food, So why is not also true for an adult?

2905
02:48:56,760 --> 02:48:59,640
Speaker 8: It is so you want to show up to work

2906
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:06,440
Speaker 8: incapable of thinking no cognitive capacity whatsoever. That's not fair,

2907
02:49:06,760 --> 02:49:08,520
Speaker 8: and then you're gonna get paid to do what you do.

2908
02:49:09,400 --> 02:49:14,280
Speaker 8: Wake up and eat, eat in an inverted pyramid, so

2909
02:49:14,440 --> 02:49:17,040
Speaker 8: by the time the sun sets, you really are not

2910
02:49:17,120 --> 02:49:19,920
Speaker 8: supposed to be eating. I know it's Ramadan, I know

2911
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:25,240
Speaker 8: it's asked Wednesday, I'm going to get my ashes. And unfortunately,

2912
02:49:26,400 --> 02:49:30,200
Speaker 8: the majority of human history we didn't have electricity. So

2913
02:49:30,440 --> 02:49:34,920
Speaker 8: fasting teaches us what fast all day and then eat

2914
02:49:34,959 --> 02:49:40,160
Speaker 8: at night. Well, metabolically, that's the inverse of logic. You

2915
02:49:40,360 --> 02:49:43,640
Speaker 8: don't want to fast all day and yummy yum, like

2916
02:49:43,720 --> 02:49:47,320
Speaker 8: the cookie monster all night long. Uh huh. To the opposite,

2917
02:49:47,920 --> 02:49:52,640
Speaker 8: you wake up, we have light, we have refrigeration. It

2918
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:56,280
Speaker 8: is not the sixteen hundreds. We can move fasting into

2919
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:59,320
Speaker 8: the twenty first century and do what makes sense and

2920
02:49:59,400 --> 02:50:02,240
Speaker 8: what's gonna help help your heart and your cholesterol.

2921
02:50:04,240 --> 02:50:06,400
Speaker 1: All right, twenty six away from the top, I've still

2922
02:50:06,400 --> 02:50:07,640
Speaker 1: got a bunch of folks want to talk to you,

2923
02:50:07,760 --> 02:50:11,240
Speaker 1: doctor a'co the line three Silver Spring, Maryland, the Cashiba's

2924
02:50:11,240 --> 02:50:12,880
Speaker 1: there's just the cab. I'm with, doctor A.

2925
02:50:15,160 --> 02:50:20,400
Speaker 18: Thank you, Carl, great show as usual, Doctor A. You've

2926
02:50:20,480 --> 02:50:25,240
Speaker 18: already answered some of my questions here because I'm trying

2927
02:50:25,320 --> 02:50:33,039
Speaker 18: to decrease my LDL cholesterol. Total cholesterol is not good

2928
02:50:33,120 --> 02:50:37,400
Speaker 18: because of that LDL, but my ADL is is very good.

2929
02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:41,160
Speaker 18: It's very high. So I am going to, you know,

2930
02:50:41,280 --> 02:50:46,520
Speaker 18: do some changes in the diet regarding that LDL. But

2931
02:50:46,680 --> 02:50:48,800
Speaker 18: my other question had to do with my friend who

2932
02:50:48,879 --> 02:50:55,200
Speaker 18: can't call in. She's received a diagnose, says of I

2933
02:50:55,280 --> 02:51:01,200
Speaker 18: guess it's stage two or class stage three or class

2934
02:51:01,280 --> 02:51:06,160
Speaker 18: three kidney disease. And what are her options other than

2935
02:51:06,959 --> 02:51:10,359
Speaker 18: the doctor has given her an option of having dialysis,

2936
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:14,680
Speaker 18: but she doesn't want dialysis. Can can this? There's something

2937
02:51:14,800 --> 02:51:22,520
Speaker 18: she can do other than just submitting to that to diolysis. Uh,

2938
02:51:22,959 --> 02:51:25,039
Speaker 18: when you're when you have kidney disease?

2939
02:51:25,200 --> 02:51:30,840
Speaker 8: Is that that high or that great? So, first of all,

2940
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:32,440
Speaker 8: I want to thank you for calling.

2941
02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:34,760
Speaker 13: This is a common theme.

2942
02:51:34,840 --> 02:51:38,880
Speaker 8: It's not even Women's History Month, but the irony of

2943
02:51:39,080 --> 02:51:42,720
Speaker 8: this morning's show on Tony Morrison's birthday, we have a

2944
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:46,360
Speaker 8: number of women who are just loving one other women

2945
02:51:46,680 --> 02:51:50,960
Speaker 8: and I appreciate that. I appreciate that you're calling for

2946
02:51:51,080 --> 02:51:55,840
Speaker 8: somebody you love, just like earlier in the show, someone

2947
02:51:55,959 --> 02:51:59,200
Speaker 8: called for her sister and even earlier in the show,

2948
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:03,760
Speaker 8: someone called for somebody she loves does not even being

2949
02:52:03,840 --> 02:52:07,520
Speaker 8: transparent with her, but she still wants to get help

2950
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:11,600
Speaker 8: for that person. So again, this is a beautiful your

2951
02:52:11,720 --> 02:52:18,720
Speaker 8: intentionality is so beautiful. Stage three of chronic kidney disease,

2952
02:52:19,600 --> 02:52:24,279
Speaker 8: that is a moderate stage. So when we talk about

2953
02:52:24,440 --> 02:52:30,560
Speaker 8: science and medicine, we're looking at GFR for the listenership.

2954
02:52:31,760 --> 02:52:37,720
Speaker 8: So the GFR, which is race dependent, should basically be

2955
02:52:38,440 --> 02:52:42,240
Speaker 8: you know, at a certain level, and when a person's

2956
02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:49,120
Speaker 8: glamegular filtration rate or GFR begins to deteriorate, that means

2957
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:53,160
Speaker 8: their kidney is not clearing poison out of their body.

2958
02:52:54,280 --> 02:52:55,920
Speaker 1: Doc hold I thought right there, we got to step

2959
02:52:55,959 --> 02:52:57,720
Speaker 1: aside for our last break. I'll let you finish your

2960
02:52:57,720 --> 02:53:00,840
Speaker 1: responding to sister Kashiba is a question on the other side, family,

2961
02:53:00,920 --> 02:53:03,400
Speaker 1: you two can get help from doctor A. Reach out

2962
02:53:03,440 --> 02:53:06,280
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

2963
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:08,600
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and

2964
02:53:08,760 --> 02:53:10,720
Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks to staying with us on this

2965
02:53:10,920 --> 02:53:14,040
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning here with the doctor Am. However, we got

2966
02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:17,480
Speaker 1: off our condolences to Reverend graylen Hager's family and also

2967
02:53:17,560 --> 02:53:21,800
Speaker 1: the family Plymouth at church he made his transition on Tuesday,

2968
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:23,960
Speaker 1: and his church, by the way, it was first the

2969
02:53:24,280 --> 02:53:28,040
Speaker 1: church that we held our power Talk conferences back in

2970
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:30,920
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He was great for us. And the group

2971
02:53:30,959 --> 02:53:36,160
Speaker 1: that was there was doctor Claude Anderson, Dick Gregory, Tony Browner,

2972
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:39,199
Speaker 1: doctor Franciscus Wilson, Dr war Johnson and some more folks

2973
02:53:39,240 --> 02:53:41,640
Speaker 1: were there. That's where it all started Plymouth. So again

2974
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:45,959
Speaker 1: our condulcens through doctor Reverend doctor Grayla's family and also

2975
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:49,320
Speaker 1: to the family at Plymouth as well. Eight hundred four

2976
02:53:49,400 --> 02:53:51,280
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seven six to speak to

2977
02:53:51,360 --> 02:53:53,200
Speaker 1: doctor eight doctor Ill. Let you finish your response to

2978
02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:54,520
Speaker 1: Sister the Kashiba's questions.

2979
02:53:55,400 --> 02:54:01,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I was describing to our listenership glomial filtration

2980
02:54:01,440 --> 02:54:06,480
Speaker 8: rate or gf ERA. That is what doctors are measuring

2981
02:54:06,840 --> 02:54:09,760
Speaker 8: when they take your urine samples, be it a one

2982
02:54:09,840 --> 02:54:14,199
Speaker 8: time sample or a twenty four hour collection. Your GFR

2983
02:54:14,840 --> 02:54:19,280
Speaker 8: is what is measuring your kidney function. So stage three

2984
02:54:19,520 --> 02:54:24,840
Speaker 8: of chronic kidney disease, the GFR is between thirty and

2985
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:30,039
Speaker 8: fifty nine. That means waste products like urea are building

2986
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:34,160
Speaker 8: up in the blood and cannot be cleared. Stage three

2987
02:54:34,360 --> 02:54:38,040
Speaker 8: is divided into three A, which is a forty five

2988
02:54:38,160 --> 02:54:42,720
Speaker 8: to fifty nine percent functioning kidney, or three B, where

2989
02:54:42,760 --> 02:54:46,640
Speaker 8: you're forty four percent down to thirty percent functioning kidney.

2990
02:54:47,959 --> 02:54:52,840
Speaker 8: So while the damage is generally irreversible, what you would

2991
02:54:52,920 --> 02:54:56,200
Speaker 8: want to be thinking about is slowing the progression of

2992
02:54:56,320 --> 02:54:59,600
Speaker 8: the underlying cause. I'm not sure if your friend is

2993
02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:04,200
Speaker 8: die of or affected by high blood pressure. High blood

2994
02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:09,160
Speaker 8: pressure and diabetes CARL are the two causes for chronic

2995
02:55:09,320 --> 02:55:14,080
Speaker 8: kidney disease. So when we go into kidney failure and

2996
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:17,480
Speaker 8: we need a kidney or we need dialysis, we have

2997
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:22,680
Speaker 8: failed to prevent either the one set of diabetes or

2998
02:55:22,760 --> 02:55:25,320
Speaker 8: the one set of high blood pressure, or we have

2999
02:55:25,440 --> 02:55:27,039
Speaker 8: failed to manage one.

3000
02:55:27,040 --> 02:55:27,879
Speaker 18: The other or both.

3001
02:55:28,959 --> 02:55:33,680
Speaker 8: So the woman's symptoms are really going to determine what

3002
02:55:33,920 --> 02:55:39,080
Speaker 8: she needs. So many individuals first start to notice that

3003
02:55:39,200 --> 02:55:42,720
Speaker 8: they're sick when they are already at stage three. They

3004
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:46,320
Speaker 8: don't have symptoms at stage one and two. That's why

3005
02:55:46,520 --> 02:55:50,320
Speaker 8: going to the doctor and getting preventive health care. Knowing

3006
02:55:50,440 --> 02:55:55,240
Speaker 8: your numbers of giving blood samples, giving urine samples when

3007
02:55:55,280 --> 02:55:58,400
Speaker 8: you think you're healthy is important because if you have

3008
02:55:58,520 --> 02:56:01,640
Speaker 8: stage one and two you're not going to know. So

3009
02:56:01,840 --> 02:56:06,599
Speaker 8: stage three you finally feel like crap. You are fatigued,

3010
02:56:07,040 --> 02:56:10,480
Speaker 8: you're weak, You're retaining fluid in your hands and feet

3011
02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:15,360
Speaker 8: and ankles. There's a change in your urination. Your urine

3012
02:56:15,440 --> 02:56:18,920
Speaker 8: may be foamy or dark colored. You may start to

3013
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:24,640
Speaker 8: have dryer, itchy skin, muscle cramps, trouble concentrating. You're not well.

3014
02:56:25,360 --> 02:56:29,200
Speaker 8: So I'm not sure what this lady your friend's symptoms are,

3015
02:56:30,280 --> 02:56:33,200
Speaker 8: but we don't want her lifestyle going down the tubes

3016
02:56:33,520 --> 02:56:37,920
Speaker 8: while we're trying to prevent her from dialysis. Dialysis clears

3017
02:56:38,440 --> 02:56:41,600
Speaker 8: toxic material out of your blood, so if she can

3018
02:56:41,680 --> 02:56:45,600
Speaker 8: do that naturally, wonderful. If she cannot, then she needs help.

3019
02:56:46,160 --> 02:56:50,760
Speaker 8: The chronic kidney disease we can slow by slowing the

3020
02:56:50,840 --> 02:56:53,840
Speaker 8: progression of the high blood pressure or the diabetes. So

3021
02:56:54,080 --> 02:56:56,720
Speaker 8: we really need to know what her underlying causes are.

3022
02:56:57,240 --> 02:57:01,119
Speaker 8: If she's anemic, then she can take on. If she's

3023
02:57:01,160 --> 02:57:05,800
Speaker 8: got mineral imbalances or bone disease that can be treated,

3024
02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:10,640
Speaker 8: cardiovascular issues, whether it's blood pressure or fluid build up,

3025
02:57:11,080 --> 02:57:14,920
Speaker 8: that needs to be individually treated. In terms of her diet,

3026
02:57:15,520 --> 02:57:19,680
Speaker 8: low salt, low protein, that's the recommendation, so you don't

3027
02:57:19,760 --> 02:57:24,200
Speaker 8: overwork her kidneys, her medications. It really depends. Is this

3028
02:57:24,320 --> 02:57:27,640
Speaker 8: a blood pressure issue, is it a cholesterol issue. Is

3029
02:57:27,680 --> 02:57:31,000
Speaker 8: it a diabetic issue. If she's a smoker, she must

3030
02:57:31,120 --> 02:57:35,160
Speaker 8: quit smoking. If she does not exercise, she should start

3031
02:57:35,280 --> 02:57:38,000
Speaker 8: if she can tolerate it. So that's my advice.

3032
02:57:38,840 --> 02:57:39,640
Speaker 5: Well, what she does.

3033
02:57:39,879 --> 02:57:42,680
Speaker 18: She had a lot of chemotherapy because she had cancer,

3034
02:57:43,280 --> 02:57:46,720
Speaker 18: and she thinks that it was after all that chemotherapy

3035
02:57:46,800 --> 02:57:48,720
Speaker 18: that's why she developed this disease.

3036
02:57:52,400 --> 02:57:54,640
Speaker 8: That may be the case. That's what I mean, that's

3037
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:57,600
Speaker 8: that's that's new information. I did not know she's a

3038
02:57:57,720 --> 02:58:02,080
Speaker 8: cancer survivor when I started to address stage three kidney disease.

3039
02:58:02,200 --> 02:58:04,480
Speaker 8: So everything, everything affects everything.

3040
02:58:05,080 --> 02:58:05,400
Speaker 5: You know that.

3041
02:58:05,640 --> 02:58:08,800
Speaker 8: That's why physicians take a history, or have the nurse

3042
02:58:08,879 --> 02:58:12,280
Speaker 8: or medical medical assistant take a history. We all just

3043
02:58:12,360 --> 02:58:14,960
Speaker 8: walk in the room and start talking off the cuff

3044
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:21,440
Speaker 8: based on the symptom. Yes, the cancer, absolutely, the chemotherapy, radiation, therapy,

3045
02:58:21,520 --> 02:58:26,000
Speaker 8: whatever she had absolutely can have a consequence of affecting

3046
02:58:26,080 --> 02:58:30,320
Speaker 8: her GFR. And now she has kidney disease. That is true.

3047
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:34,720
Speaker 8: If she can exercise, she needs to do such. If

3048
02:58:34,800 --> 02:58:37,400
Speaker 8: she can manage her nutrition. She needs to do such.

3049
02:58:40,080 --> 02:58:42,640
Speaker 18: Okay, well, thank you, I'm going to pass. I wrote

3050
02:58:42,680 --> 02:58:44,760
Speaker 18: down your answer, so I'm going to pass all this

3051
02:58:44,840 --> 02:58:46,840
Speaker 18: information on to her. Thank you very much.

3052
02:58:47,840 --> 02:58:48,640
Speaker 8: Have a blessed day.

3053
02:58:49,200 --> 02:58:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Sista Kashiba. Twelve away from the top,

3054
02:58:51,680 --> 02:58:54,440
Speaker 1: there are Terry's joining us. Tarry's called from Connecticut. These

3055
02:58:54,920 --> 02:58:59,840
Speaker 1: online four grand rising Terry. You're only doctor arasy Mike.

3056
02:59:00,120 --> 02:59:04,800
Speaker 19: Question is about high blood pressure. It seems that I

3057
02:59:04,920 --> 02:59:08,200
Speaker 19: can't get my blood pressure down to where it's supposed

3058
02:59:08,240 --> 02:59:08,400
Speaker 19: to be.

3059
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:08,800
Speaker 8: Now.

3060
02:59:09,520 --> 02:59:12,160
Speaker 19: I have eliminated things for my diet just to see

3061
02:59:12,200 --> 02:59:14,760
Speaker 19: if that was the cause of it. I have fast

3062
02:59:14,840 --> 02:59:17,400
Speaker 19: to see if that was the cause of it, and

3063
02:59:18,200 --> 02:59:20,600
Speaker 19: just seems like I just can't get those numbers down

3064
02:59:20,879 --> 02:59:21,880
Speaker 19: where they really should be.

3065
02:59:22,080 --> 02:59:22,200
Speaker 12: Now.

3066
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:24,560
Speaker 19: Doctor told me that maybe I need an alignment. I

3067
02:59:24,640 --> 02:59:27,640
Speaker 19: need to see a chiropractor. So why say you doctor?

3068
02:59:27,680 --> 02:59:29,080
Speaker 19: A good morning to you by the way.

3069
02:59:30,200 --> 02:59:33,280
Speaker 8: Good morning, and thank you so much for calling about

3070
02:59:33,400 --> 02:59:38,560
Speaker 8: something that I think is extraordinarily common. Extraordinarily common. We

3071
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:43,280
Speaker 8: inhabit this body, and earlier call provoked me to talk

3072
02:59:43,320 --> 02:59:48,160
Speaker 8: about faith and spirituality and belief. We inhabit this body

3073
02:59:48,879 --> 02:59:53,080
Speaker 8: and we come out of the womb with this inhabited body,

3074
02:59:53,720 --> 02:59:57,240
Speaker 8: and we're learning new things about it every five to

3075
02:59:57,360 --> 03:00:01,680
Speaker 8: seven years, if not daily, So you don't have the

3076
03:00:01,800 --> 03:00:04,360
Speaker 8: high blood pressure, and then suddenly you wake up one

3077
03:00:04,440 --> 03:00:08,800
Speaker 8: morning and you're being told by healthcare professionals that you

3078
03:00:08,920 --> 03:00:13,160
Speaker 8: have a blood pressure problem. You know, the first thing

3079
03:00:13,240 --> 03:00:17,520
Speaker 8: to grapple with for all the listenership. You know, we

3080
03:00:17,760 --> 03:00:20,880
Speaker 8: understand going through puberty. You used to not have a

3081
03:00:20,959 --> 03:00:25,400
Speaker 8: mental period, Now you do. Voila. You used to not

3082
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:29,360
Speaker 8: have pimples on your face, now you do. You used

3083
03:00:29,360 --> 03:00:31,560
Speaker 8: to not have to shower. You used to not have

3084
03:00:31,640 --> 03:00:34,440
Speaker 8: a body odor. You used to not have to wear deodorant.

3085
03:00:35,160 --> 03:00:40,200
Speaker 8: We are accustomed in our society to acclimating to the

3086
03:00:40,400 --> 03:00:45,680
Speaker 8: human body changes from young child to pubertal child, young adult.

3087
03:00:46,160 --> 03:00:50,879
Speaker 8: We are not acclimated to the later in life changes. Okay,

3088
03:00:51,400 --> 03:00:55,520
Speaker 8: because something worked in your twenties, it doesn't mean it's

3089
03:00:55,560 --> 03:00:58,279
Speaker 8: going to work in your thirties or forties or fifties.

3090
03:00:59,000 --> 03:01:03,080
Speaker 8: It sounds like you have a hereditary propensity to high

3091
03:01:03,120 --> 03:01:07,160
Speaker 8: blood pressure. That's what say I. That's what it sounds like.

3092
03:01:07,760 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 8: I didn't do anything to cause it, Doc, It ain't

3093
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:13,440
Speaker 8: my fault. That's right, but suck it up because you

3094
03:01:13,600 --> 03:01:16,240
Speaker 8: inherit it from a mommy and a daddy. And they

3095
03:01:16,360 --> 03:01:19,400
Speaker 8: weren't flawless much as we want to think they were

3096
03:01:19,520 --> 03:01:23,599
Speaker 8: and put them on a pedestal. No, they both had conditions.

3097
03:01:24,160 --> 03:01:28,440
Speaker 8: The human body is by definition flawed. We will return

3098
03:01:28,520 --> 03:01:31,080
Speaker 8: to ashes and dust. That's part of what the dust

3099
03:01:31,160 --> 03:01:33,960
Speaker 8: on the forehead on Ash Wednesday is about. You're just

3100
03:01:34,040 --> 03:01:37,920
Speaker 8: flesh and blood. Don't get it twisted. The spectacular part

3101
03:01:37,959 --> 03:01:41,840
Speaker 8: about you is the spiritual, not the flesh. So BRH.

3102
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:46,920
Speaker 8: I understand accept in reality as we change through the decades,

3103
03:01:47,000 --> 03:01:50,760
Speaker 8: it is difficult. The alternative is death. So I would say,

3104
03:01:50,840 --> 03:01:54,240
Speaker 8: wake up, smell the coffee, and start the blood pressure treatment.

3105
03:01:54,640 --> 03:01:56,800
Speaker 8: Whether you think it's fair or not, you've got it.

3106
03:01:57,160 --> 03:02:00,720
Speaker 8: It's repeating itself. Get a home blood pressure cuff. But

3107
03:02:00,879 --> 03:02:05,560
Speaker 8: if you consistently are above the mark, don't play around

3108
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:09,720
Speaker 8: and develop heart disease. Manage your blood pressure now. If

3109
03:02:09,760 --> 03:02:14,280
Speaker 8: you can do it with black seed oil, you can

3110
03:02:14,360 --> 03:02:17,520
Speaker 8: do it with weight loss, with quit smoking. You can

3111
03:02:17,600 --> 03:02:20,800
Speaker 8: become an athlete. You can you can join orange therapy

3112
03:02:21,200 --> 03:02:23,800
Speaker 8: and avoid the medicaid. It's been great, But what is

3113
03:02:23,879 --> 03:02:26,840
Speaker 8: sounding like to me. You've tried everything known to man.

3114
03:02:27,360 --> 03:02:31,560
Speaker 8: It's not working. You need to start medication so that

3115
03:02:31,680 --> 03:02:32,840
Speaker 8: you don't get heart disease.

3116
03:02:34,040 --> 03:02:36,920
Speaker 19: Well, I am on medication. He wanted to pump that

3117
03:02:37,760 --> 03:02:40,320
Speaker 19: or started up to one hundred milligrams. I've told them,

3118
03:02:40,360 --> 03:02:42,080
Speaker 19: no way, You're not gonna blow my kidneys up.

3119
03:02:43,280 --> 03:02:47,160
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, okay, So I don't blame you. So here's

3120
03:02:47,200 --> 03:02:50,280
Speaker 8: the point. I'm proud of you. You're a man and

3121
03:02:50,440 --> 03:02:57,040
Speaker 8: you are being proactive. That's unusual, spectacular. So what about fitness.

3122
03:02:57,120 --> 03:02:59,120
Speaker 8: Where are you at with fitness? Can you do better?

3123
03:03:00,200 --> 03:03:03,440
Speaker 19: Oh? Well, I normally get my exercise by running the stairs,

3124
03:03:04,280 --> 03:03:06,800
Speaker 19: and I can run the stairs very well. Three floors,

3125
03:03:08,000 --> 03:03:10,000
Speaker 19: just up and down the stairs and down the hall,

3126
03:03:10,360 --> 03:03:12,640
Speaker 19: back and forth. That's basically what I do for exercise.

3127
03:03:12,840 --> 03:03:16,760
Speaker 8: That is a beautiful start. You're not an elevator man,

3128
03:03:16,920 --> 03:03:20,320
Speaker 8: and you're not sedentary. I'm super proud of you. One

3129
03:03:20,600 --> 03:03:24,920
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty minutes of cardiovascular activity a week. That

3130
03:03:25,160 --> 03:03:28,120
Speaker 8: is the mark you need to hit. So I don't

3131
03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:30,959
Speaker 8: know if you wear a fit bit or how you're tracking,

3132
03:03:31,360 --> 03:03:34,840
Speaker 8: how you run the stairs three flights. The point is,

3133
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:39,160
Speaker 8: do in a week one hundred and fifty minutes cardiovascular

3134
03:03:39,600 --> 03:03:42,680
Speaker 8: and let's see if over three to six months does

3135
03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:44,279
Speaker 8: this improve your blood pressure?

3136
03:03:45,959 --> 03:03:50,199
Speaker 19: Okay, I can add to it to my workhouse measurement

3137
03:03:50,320 --> 03:03:53,640
Speaker 19: there and see what happens from there. And I've be

3138
03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:58,960
Speaker 19: taking stuff like beat root powder, dandelion roofed and by

3139
03:03:59,000 --> 03:04:01,720
Speaker 19: the way, michelesterol a perfect levels are perfect.

3140
03:04:02,360 --> 03:04:04,879
Speaker 8: Well, see this is this is kind of what I assumed. Again,

3141
03:04:04,959 --> 03:04:07,120
Speaker 8: I haven't met you, and I haven't done the thirty

3142
03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:12,560
Speaker 8: minute of inventory on paper, but just my intuition spending

3143
03:04:12,959 --> 03:04:16,080
Speaker 8: a quarter of a century doing this and loving what

3144
03:04:16,280 --> 03:04:20,280
Speaker 8: I do, I already kind of took your proactive you

3145
03:04:20,400 --> 03:04:24,640
Speaker 8: go the extra mile. You've done everything imaginable. That is

3146
03:04:24,760 --> 03:04:28,960
Speaker 8: why my empiric answer to you was assume it to

3147
03:04:29,040 --> 03:04:32,360
Speaker 8: be genetic, and don't be in denial. You know, we

3148
03:04:32,440 --> 03:04:35,720
Speaker 8: want to be proactive, but we also want to be enlightened.

3149
03:04:35,959 --> 03:04:38,680
Speaker 8: We want to be self aware, and most of us

3150
03:04:38,760 --> 03:04:42,279
Speaker 8: don't know every lick of our family history. Okay, Brenita

3151
03:04:42,360 --> 03:04:47,320
Speaker 8: Thompson traced my family history to eighteen fifty six, but

3152
03:04:47,560 --> 03:04:49,320
Speaker 8: I don't know if we can all do that. So

3153
03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:53,400
Speaker 8: even if you think you know your family history, one monkey,

3154
03:04:53,600 --> 03:04:57,440
Speaker 8: one monkey, can spoil the show. Okay, one person with

3155
03:04:57,600 --> 03:05:01,360
Speaker 8: the heart disease in your genealogy could be the reason

3156
03:05:01,760 --> 03:05:05,119
Speaker 8: you cannot wrestle your way out of high blood pressure.

3157
03:05:05,720 --> 03:05:09,600
Speaker 8: I assume that you have a perfect cholesterol. I'm assuming

3158
03:05:09,680 --> 03:05:12,840
Speaker 8: that you're you're doing the most. That's why I'm answering

3159
03:05:12,920 --> 03:05:15,000
Speaker 8: the question accordingly. This is.

3160
03:05:16,760 --> 03:05:16,920
Speaker 3: Doc.

3161
03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to get another calling real quick because we

3162
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:21,039
Speaker 1: racing the clock here, Terry. I thank you for your call,

3163
03:05:21,360 --> 03:05:23,760
Speaker 1: stix away from the top of the hore, Della in Maryland,

3164
03:05:23,840 --> 03:05:26,440
Speaker 1: could you make it quick for us for doctor Adella's

3165
03:05:26,440 --> 03:05:28,160
Speaker 1: online five real quick for us.

3166
03:05:28,160 --> 03:05:31,280
Speaker 9: Della, good grand rise into both of you, and thank

3167
03:05:31,320 --> 03:05:34,200
Speaker 9: you for your fantastic show as usual. I just want

3168
03:05:34,280 --> 03:05:37,640
Speaker 9: to know if how much you know and how much

3169
03:05:37,680 --> 03:05:40,480
Speaker 9: you can share about amma lodosis. I have a brother

3170
03:05:40,560 --> 03:05:43,920
Speaker 9: who passed away from it, and it can be hereditary

3171
03:05:44,360 --> 03:05:46,520
Speaker 9: or it may not be. Can you share something to

3172
03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:49,600
Speaker 9: help me figure out if I have any symptoms or

3173
03:05:49,600 --> 03:05:52,720
Speaker 9: anything that relates to that. And it's for me and

3174
03:05:52,800 --> 03:05:55,000
Speaker 9: my family both because all of us, you know, are

3175
03:05:55,040 --> 03:05:57,080
Speaker 9: concerned about it, because it's something that just came out

3176
03:05:57,120 --> 03:05:57,520
Speaker 9: of the blue.

3177
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:05,960
Speaker 8: All right, to respond, First, the first thing is this,

3178
03:06:06,160 --> 03:06:09,360
Speaker 8: Carl let me let me tell you. The dilemma that

3179
03:06:09,560 --> 03:06:12,760
Speaker 8: you face when I come on air is the dilemma

3180
03:06:12,800 --> 03:06:16,560
Speaker 8: I face every single day in office hours. How can

3181
03:06:16,640 --> 03:06:20,480
Speaker 8: you finish in a timely fashion? It doesn't happen because this,

3182
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Speaker 8: this is the problem. When a doctor cares we're gonna

3183
03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:26,160
Speaker 8: be running late, it's gonna be three to four hour

3184
03:06:26,280 --> 03:06:31,440
Speaker 8: wait because the patient or the listener comes in partially loaded.

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03:06:31,760 --> 03:06:34,800
Speaker 8: So to ascertain what we need, it's gonna take forever.

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03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:39,000
Speaker 8: Amiloid doses is a rare disease that's caused by an

3187
03:06:39,080 --> 03:06:43,840
Speaker 8: abnormal protein buildup of amyloid in your organs and tissues.

3188
03:06:44,120 --> 03:06:47,560
Speaker 8: This is a rare disease. Then you stiffen and you

3189
03:06:47,760 --> 03:06:52,600
Speaker 8: and you begin to fail. So the rarity of this condition, firstly,

3190
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Speaker 8: caller the likelihood that this is going to affect more people.

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03:06:57,720 --> 03:07:01,200
Speaker 8: It's not, it's not. This is not something that is genetic.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure how your family member contracted this or

3193
03:07:05,920 --> 03:07:10,840
Speaker 8: developed this. The common symptoms are severe fatigue, they're swelling

3194
03:07:10,920 --> 03:07:14,320
Speaker 8: in the legs, the stomach, shortness of breath, your numb

3195
03:07:15,640 --> 03:07:23,199
Speaker 8: is primarily caused by bone marrow disorders, chronic inflammatory diseases,

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03:07:24,160 --> 03:07:28,200
Speaker 8: or some genetic factor that may have happened. But again,

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03:07:29,480 --> 03:07:33,040
Speaker 8: in what you're describing in your family member, this is

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03:07:33,160 --> 03:07:35,760
Speaker 8: not something that happen. How old was the family member

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Speaker 8: when they got this.

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Speaker 15: Caller?

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Speaker 1: And she may have hung up? I think she hung up.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, Well then I can't answer a question when

3203
03:07:46,240 --> 03:07:48,720
Speaker 8: the person's not there. But the point is, Emilar goes,

3204
03:07:48,800 --> 03:07:51,920
Speaker 8: this is very rare. Most of the other callers, we're

3205
03:07:51,959 --> 03:07:56,640
Speaker 8: talking about common conditions that affect on a broad basis,

3206
03:07:56,920 --> 03:07:59,640
Speaker 8: and it being heart healthy months. I'm just going to

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03:07:59,680 --> 03:08:03,119
Speaker 8: finish with this, Carl. You know, when I'm in the office,

3208
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:06,560
Speaker 8: I may be scheduled to see twenty five to forty patients.

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03:08:07,760 --> 03:08:10,560
Speaker 8: Patients don't do a prep like you do when you

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03:08:10,680 --> 03:08:14,440
Speaker 8: go to the gym. You do your stretching and get

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03:08:14,560 --> 03:08:18,360
Speaker 8: ready before you hit the treadmill. No, they come in blind.

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03:08:18,959 --> 03:08:22,640
Speaker 8: And so what does that mean? Question number one? What

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03:08:22,879 --> 03:08:27,880
Speaker 8: is your menstrual cycle? Most educated, intelligent women, they don't

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03:08:27,920 --> 03:08:31,279
Speaker 8: even have a ready answer for that. They're not prepared.

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03:08:31,800 --> 03:08:33,560
Speaker 8: So we can't get through the day.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, and we just flat out of time. Doctor A,

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03:08:36,200 --> 03:08:37,800
Speaker 1: can you give that number out for the folks of

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03:08:37,840 --> 03:08:40,000
Speaker 1: you A bunch of folks still will hold in trying.

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03:08:39,800 --> 03:08:42,520
Speaker 8: To get to his shoes two seven zero three two

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03:08:42,680 --> 03:08:45,560
Speaker 8: sixty six and text doctor A to that number.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's two two two seven zero thirty two sixty six.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again, doctor A. Thank you for what you

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03:08:51,920 --> 03:08:56,680
Speaker 1: do for us as well. All right, that's right, all right,

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03:08:57,040 --> 03:09:00,320
Speaker 1: it classes this miss family. Stay strong, stay positive, stay

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03:09:00,360 --> 03:09:03,080
Speaker 1: help it. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right

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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore on ten ten WOLB and fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: wol