1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, from one turn bag to another. It's a new boss, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: same as the old boss. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: That race is already heating up. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Huh uh vop os osly osly mm hmm. Former president 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: of the Indianapolis City County Council. Yeah, comes out yesterday 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: with a big announcement that he's running for mayor. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's running for mayor and the new mayor will 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: be chosen in twenty twenty seven. Right, So Joe Hawks 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: got a long way to go in a short time 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: to get there. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be interesting because Joe Hawk said 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: is in his third term. He had said this was 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: going to be it for him. There's a lot of 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: people who believe he's going to run again because the 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: guy is a complete dumpster fire as a human being, 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: and it's totally unhiable for any sort of any decent 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: reputable place. Why would they want him and. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: What else is he going to do? 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of people that believe that 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: he will indeed seek a fourth term. And Osley is 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: throwing the first salvo out there saying I'm going to 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: run now. Look, nothing's going to change if this guy 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: becomes the mayor because he's been in charge of the 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: city government as the president for all the things that 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: are doing have been done. And so you're just looking 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: at this and going, well, whether it's this guy or 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: it's hog set again, where is the change necessary in 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: vision and strategy and whatever? 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Where is that at that the city so desperately needs. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. He 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: says he wants Indianapolis to be a world class and 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: globally recognized city and that he wants a skyline that 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: is recognizable. That's the vision. 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: And here we go. 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: And this is where we get back into we call 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: him Bso's Bright Shiny Objects, in which the obsession becomes 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: about the bright shiny object because that gets the headlines 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 3: and that's the ribbon cutting rather than doing the nuts 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: and bolts basics of government. Well in this city doesn't 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: really do any of them. Well, obviously crime is totally 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: out of control, and you know, you can hang your 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: hat on well, it's not as bad as it was 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: the year before. The numbers are still unacceptable. Any reasonable 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: people would would would think that you've got the roads 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: which are a complete disaster. You've got you know, snow 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: plow every time. There's some sort of snow event. You 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: can speak to this better than I can. You're a resident. 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: The roads are just complete trash. Yeah, and speaking of trash, 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: that's sort of the fourth job of a mayor. I mean, 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's public safety, it's roads, it's snow, 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: and it's trash. 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Those are the four main jobs. I don't know. 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if the trash has done well or not. 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm not here dumping trash. But what is that's clearly 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: number four on the list of things you're most most 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: thinking about. And so what gets better, what changes, what's 57 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: going to be different? How do we get Indianapolis out 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: of this? To steal a phrase from Jimmy Carter, the 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: state of malayase that that it's entered in, you know, 60 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: one of the things, and this sounds horrible to say, 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: but the one of the things I love about our 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: new building is one it has saved me about ten 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: minutes because I don't have to drive through downtown anymore. 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: And two I'm just not subjected to downtown anymore, not 66 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: even the drive, just the general just stink and depression 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: of it. You go out there during a random weekday, 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: and even if there's not nine homeless guys laying on 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: the circle. There's just this like dystopian feel about it 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: where it used to be hustling and bustling, and there's 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: not nearly as many people and they don't seem as happy, 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: and it's just it's just so depressing. 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Osley says that he's gonna put his emphasis 74 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: on neighborhood neighborhood led development and also the downtown area 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: which you're talking about, and White River revitalization, and that 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: he wants to engage more directly with the General Assembly 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: and do that on infrastructure. Sure, and the city needs. 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Other than. 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: Asking for more money. What does that even mean though, 80 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: because a big part of this is a complete lack 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: of competency from the city government as a whole. And 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I just come back to this thing. Ryan Hedrick told us, 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: this has been several months ago. 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: Now. 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: I can't even remember what the scandal with hog Set 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: was at the time. There's been so many of them. 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: But Ryan Hedrick, who always saw the construction, was that 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: what it was. I can't remember what it was. There's 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: been so many of them, it doesn't matter. Ryan Hedrick 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: was in with us from the WBC newsroom and of 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: course Ryan has been very candid. Him and Matt Bear 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: have this fabulous supporting Sobriety podcast that they talk about 93 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: their trials and tribulations with struggles with addiction. And Ryan 94 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: was telling us Joe hog Set runs his city, the 95 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: city that he's in charge of, the same way he 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 3: ran his life when he was in the throes of addiction. 97 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: And what he was saying about that is things get started, 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: they never get finished. Everything's a mess, everything's on organized, 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: everything's a dumpster fire. 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: You travel around this city, that's it. That's the city. 101 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: And again, I don't have to tell how long has 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Washington Street been closed? 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: Still still under construction. 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: They built the World Trade Centers. 105 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: In a shorter amount of time than that bridge. 106 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: And I assume it still is under construction. 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Part of it, part of it's open. 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: It's utterly ridiculous. You're years on this now, and it 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: is whether it's Illinois Street or whatever, it's all the 110 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: things start, they don't get finished. It's all going at 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: the same time. There's nothing about this city right now 112 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: where you say that's the city on the move, that's 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: the city on the sin. That's a place people want 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: to be and I don't know how this guy who 115 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: has been while he's not been the mayor, he's been 116 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: the council president is the dude who's going to get 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: it back on track. 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: He has been criticized for having that former hog Set 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: campaign staffer, Lauren Roberts removed from that council meeting. He 120 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: later apologized for it, but some people are saying the 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: criticisms of him are that he is visibly emotional at times. 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: So you have to ask yourself, does that visible emotion 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: and occasional pause is that a weakness or is that 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: authenticity and heartfelt leadership. 125 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, you don't rise to that level with authenticity and 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: heartfelt leadership. The establishment, the power brokers, they don't allow that. 127 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Right. This is where, well, this is what we are 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: in our country. 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: I was having this conversation yesterday with somebody and I said, 130 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: we just oh, I know what it was when the 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: mayor of Carmel was there advocating for another tax increase. 132 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: They want this innkeeper's tax thing to go up so 133 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: they can build a convention center. And I was telling 134 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: this person we were talking about it, and I said, 135 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: we just we're a socialist country. 136 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Now, we just don't admit it. 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: We're basically socialism without the routine violence and the gulags. 138 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, essentially, you have a tippy top group of 139 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: people who make all them money. They utilize and weaponize 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: the government to help them make more money, and we 141 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: the peasants, are essentially the people who scrap to put 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: together some sort of middle class existence to do the 143 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: bidding of these people. I mean, that's just basically the 144 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: way it works now, and so you don't get outsiders 145 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: to rise to levels of power anymore. Just like they'll 146 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: cut you off, they will stop it. So I am 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: hoping here's what I'm hoping for next year, Casey, and 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: we'll see if I get this. I'm hoping for two 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: things as it relates to Indianapolis elections. Number One, we 150 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: need Jesse Brown to run for mayor in the Democrat primary. 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: I think that would be fascinating. Given the traction that 152 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: socialist candidates have had in major metropolitan cities, I think 153 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: he would do quite well. Could he win, I don't know, 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: but he is honest and at least in his view 155 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: of things. You ask him a question, he gives you 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: an answer. He cuts the bs. Now, some of his 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: answers are insane. But if you have to tell me, 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: I have to deal between a guy who I think 159 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: is kind of wacky and out there and a little 160 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: insane on some of his answers and policies and naive, 161 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: but he's honest and he's a decent human. Right like 162 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: his views, He'll tell you you sit down and talk 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: to him, or I got to deal with four more 164 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: years of a continuation of Joe hog Set, which, whether 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: it is hogg seat or oestly, I'm gonna take the 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: honest guy who's got some views that are out there, 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it every time. 168 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, is Jesse Brown going to start 169 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: promising things like mom Donnie does in New York City. 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: But the difference is he would try to do them. 171 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Like who has been the most forceful voice against the 172 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: hog Set administration. 173 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: It's been Jesse Brown. Sure, who has been the most 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: forcefull voice on the Thomas Carl Cook Socket's been. 175 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Just would say it's Jason Hammer. 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, but I'm saying in terms of the actual the structure, 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: it's not the Republicans. It's not the been, the six 178 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: or whatever. It is Republicans who have been leading against 179 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Joe Hogshead. It's been Jesse Brown. The biggest pain of 180 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: the ass to Joe hogg Set has been the Democrat 181 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: socialist on the Indianapolis City County Council. The other thing 182 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: we need, and I don't know if we're going to 183 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: get this or not, because we need our old PALINDI 184 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: reporter Steven Whimmer to run for mayor two in a 185 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: general election. 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: And would he run as a republican libertarian Democrat. 187 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm kind of hoping for. And I 188 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: don't know, and I don't know what he's going to do, 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: but I feel like if he runs as a libertarian, 190 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: then he would be on the stage with whoever the 191 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: Democrat pick is for the general election debates. 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I just need. 193 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: I need Indie reporter on stage with the Democrat candidate 194 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: for mayor in Indianapolis. 195 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Not necessarily to win, but just to stir things up. Oh, 196 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: he'd have no chance of winning, but that's not what 197 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: this is about. Audio for days on this program. 198 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: So those are the two things. The city is not 199 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: getting fixed. You're not going to see any changes. These 200 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: are all the same people, just under different names. And 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: so if it's going to be. If the city's going 202 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: to go to hell, we might as well get some 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: entertainment out of it. 204 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Right, how expensive do you think this race will be? 205 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't it what? Fifteen million? 206 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: Well that's what Shreeves spent his own money. That's not 207 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: even include hog set. I mean, you're not who do 208 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: the Republicans even have? 209 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: Who? 210 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Would you look at? 211 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: Many people are calling for Andrew Ireland to run state rep. 212 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: He would get destroyed, you think so? He would get 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: destroyed because he doesn't connect with people. 214 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: He does not. Look, I go back to that interview, 215 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: you and Jim. You want somebody who connects? 216 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Or do you want somebody who's smart? 217 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Well? Do I have to choose? 218 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Apparently a million people in this city and I got 219 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: to choose? Do I have to choose in alof weirdo 220 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: who's smart or somebody who connects? 221 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: That's a moron? Do I have to I can't in 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: a million. 223 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: People, you'd have somebody who's smart and connected. 224 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: I can't find one person out of a million people running. 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Look here, I don't live here. I'm an eligis and 226 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Hammer running Well, Hammer's the sort of guy who could 227 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: do it. But why would anybody decent want to do it? 228 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Give him the dumpster fire of what the Marion County 229 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Republican Party is and their inability to be competitive on anything. 230 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: I would any decent person want to run for the 231 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: mayor of Indianapolis unless you're like Jefferson and you're using, 232 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: well shre was using. 233 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: As a stepping stone if you didn't win, you knew 234 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: what was going to happen, and it did. It played 235 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: out exactly like we said it would. 236 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: Good people do not run for public office because it 237 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: ain't worth the hassle. And I and when you don't, 238 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: when you have a party, in this case, the Marion 239 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: County Republican Party, who is totally inept who is totally ineffective. 240 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: It's not just that they don't raise moneyor put good 241 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: candidates for it. They don't even fight on most things. 242 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: They agree with hog Set on most things. WIBC is 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: the opposition to Joe hogg Set, because the Republican Party 244 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: on the City County Council just goes along with whatever 245 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: he says. 246 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, they're like the Democrat Party in the General Assembly. 247 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: It's over. 248 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: They can win that fight, Okay, So mostly may have 249 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: some competition there's rumors that Andrea Hunley could be running 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: as well. 251 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're going to see several people get in, 252 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: especially if hog Set decides not to run for another term. 253 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: You know, I definitely wouldn't rule out Ryan Mere's running. 254 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: And look, I think the move of Chris Bailey, the 255 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: IMPD chief who took this job as the chief of 256 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: staff for hog Seat, tells you that he's reading the 257 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: tea leaves that it's going to be somebody there in 258 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: twenty eight that he's going to be working with You. 259 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: Don't leave the job as chief of police for some 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean mostly political position, right if you don't think 261 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: that job is going to be there in a couple 262 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: of years. 263 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: So he's telling you by that that nothing is going 264 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: to change. 265 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: Just look, don't look at the words, look at the 266 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: actions of these people, and he's telling you that he 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: thinks it's going to be the status quo. 268 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: We're going to hear from. 269 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: NICKI Kelly next. 270 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: She is from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, and we'll get 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: her take on what Governor Brown had to say last 272 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: night on his State of the State address. 273 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Plus yeah, maybe finally perhaps probably not, but maybe Township 274 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: governments might finally be going on. 275 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about that. It's coming out from 276 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC. 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: So the state of the stain Gamin wins and I 278 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: don't think we got anything out of it. 279 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Let's find out what the pros have to say. One 280 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: of the best in the business joins us. 281 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: Now Niki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Nikki Kelly, Hello, 282 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: good morning. 283 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: All right. 284 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: So we talked about this earlier on in the program. 285 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you got not much in terms of 286 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: new vision. He tried to put a good spin he 287 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 3: being brawn on the last year that a lot of 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: people are disappointed with. I thought it was kind of 289 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: a stinker of a speech. Let's say you. 290 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: I think I would say subdued. I mean, there just 291 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of meat there. I mean there were 292 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: the typical, you know, you're the things re did good, 293 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: But in addition to that, there wasn't sort of what's next, 294 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: you know, that was this part of the speech. I 295 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: think that was maybe a little lacking. 296 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Is that normal in a short session year? 297 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: Right, you normally don't get as much big policy as 298 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: that normal To have that lack of policy initiatives in 299 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: a short session speech, I don't think so. 300 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: Like I remember covering Mitch Daniels and he would say, look, 301 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: there's no session that we can you know, sit on 302 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: the sidelines for. And so but I do think the 303 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: whole redistricting debate sort of sucked up the oxygen for months. 304 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: So maybe a lot of the prep work that would 305 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: have usually gone into a more extensive, you know, agenda 306 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: wasn't there. And also there lawmakers are just I don't know, 307 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: they're just not in the mood to be there this year. 308 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: And so so I just think everyone wants to you know, 309 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: they're obviously still working a lot of bills, and we'll 310 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: get some good bills that are passed, but it's just 311 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: not on you know, there's no speed or for sort 312 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: of momentum moving this year. 313 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sort of seemed like and you've covered a 314 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: lot more of these than I've watched, right, so maybe 315 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: you'll say, no, rob you're making this up. But when 316 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Beckwith introduced him, it did not seem like there was 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: this robust, enthusiastic applause that we normally get from a 318 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: state of the state Addresser, Am I just imagining that? 319 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: I mean when he first came in the room, all 320 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: the lawmakers stood and there's the long part where they 321 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: clap and he you know, shakes everyone's hands going down. 322 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: That was very normal. However, through the rest of the speech, 323 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: the applause was kind of tepid. The only two times 324 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: that there it was very enthusiastic was for law enforcement mentioned, 325 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: and then ofso some chanting for the Hoosier therapy end. 326 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: So but you know, like I said, it just sort 327 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: of goes with the whole deel and tenor of the 328 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: session this year. And I think also because they're inding 329 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks early, you know, to make up 330 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: for the time they spent on registricting, I think everyone's 331 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: just like, let's let's get this done. 332 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly from the India Capitol Chronicle our guest one 333 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: more thing than I'll let Casey hop in here. 334 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: He was very big on the Bears last night. 335 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: There's no chance the Bears are going to ham in Indiana? 336 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Is there? 337 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: I mean, is he setting up unreasonable expectations at this point? 338 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: But I wouldn't say he's very big on it. He 339 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: made one statement I think technically two sentences, and the 340 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: whole speech mentioned the Bears, so obviously he's trying to 341 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: attack attract some attention to it. I think everyone thought 342 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: when this first came out, this was a move by 343 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: the Bears to try to leverage some movement there in Illinois. 344 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: But you know, heck, we Indiana has a lot to offer, 345 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: and so they're gonna take their chances and see, you know, 346 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: what they can do. I think there was a report 347 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: earlier this week that the NFL Commissioner was in Indiana 348 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: looking at sites, so I think that shows it's a 349 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: little more serious than some people might take it. 350 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Nikki, a couple questions. 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: It seemed to me that the length of it was 352 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: very short in regards to past state of the States 353 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: of the Past. Was this one in you know, line 354 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: with other ones or was it shorter in your opinion? 355 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: No, yeah, it was a half hour. I think technically 356 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: twenty eight minutes. If you know, they allowed for from applause, 357 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: that's the normal. I mean, they moved it back from 358 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 4: seven to seven thirty and from Tuesday to a Wednesday. 359 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: But other than that, it seemed pretty normal. 360 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: He had mentioned some specific bills, and he was pointing 361 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: out people that were in the congregation was he picking 362 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: bills that he knows are going to pass. 363 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: I mean, some of them probably will in some form. 364 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: And I mean, you know, when you picked a priority 365 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: build a house Republicans, you know that's going to pass. 366 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: Whether it's in the same format it was filed as 367 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: another thing. I would say that was the most interesting 368 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: part of it. Is usually a governor crafts their own 369 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: vision and bills and they draft them and they find 370 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 4: lawmakers to carry their priorities. This was more like, Hey, 371 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: I think metal date medical debt is awful and we 372 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: need to deal with that. And there's as that build, 373 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: So I'm going to support the medical debt build you know, 374 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: similar for housing affordability or for utilities. Now I will 375 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: give them credit on utilities. He's been talking that up 376 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: for you know, easily the past year and clearly using 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: all the executive powers he has to do that. But 378 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: it was just a different approach than bringing your own 379 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: specific ideas and plans versus you know, just looking at 380 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: some of the bills that are moving and saying you 381 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: support them. 382 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: Colein's up with Nicky Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle. You 383 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 3: guys had a couple articles on this. Now it appears 384 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: like there is at least some momentum finally after twenty 385 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: years on doing something with township government. Am I just 386 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: getting my hopes up here? Or is there a chance 387 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: we're going to see some meaningful change to township government 388 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: in Indiana? 389 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: You know there's a chance. I think you know, over 390 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: the years, there have been numerous studies and reports, and 391 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: I think the problem for townships is that there's a 392 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 4: fair amount of examples in which the township Trustees office 393 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: does very little and you know, accept pay their staff. 394 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: And so that I think is a fair question to 395 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: bring up. And you can argue that, well, if you 396 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: bad apples are tolering us, But you know that's existed 397 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: for a long time and doesn't seem to be changing. 398 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Are the is there? 399 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: It seems like usually when these township bills come out, 400 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: there's this Township Trustees Association, they come out in full force. 401 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Are they doing that again this time? 402 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like that at least they're getting the 403 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: headlines for the organized opposition they usually have. 404 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were there. They testified as they normally 405 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: do and trying to defend their usefulness and then talk 406 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: through some of the more logistical reasons not to support 407 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: the bill. You know, it got out of committee, so 408 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: we'll see from there. But it's you know, we've been 409 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: having this discussion for so long, you know, maybe this 410 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 4: is finally the year. 411 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: All right, real quick before I let you go, you 412 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: guys had an interesting article we talked about yesterday with 413 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: the tax code where the state of Indiana is basically 414 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: saying that they are not in some capacity going to 415 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: match the federal tax changes that came out of last 416 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: year's legislation. 417 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot of money on the line here. 418 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: If Indiana matches the federal tax who can you just 419 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: explain that to us real quick? 420 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, So basically, you know, for instance, this is the 421 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: easiest one to understand, but think of like fifty or 422 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: so of these provisions that we would quote conform to. 423 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: So if the federal government start saying we're not going 424 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: to tax overtime and tips, that obviuously changes your federal 425 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: tax return. Right, So the question is, well, the state conform, Well, 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: we not tax overtime and tips that kind of thing. So, 427 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: and yes, it's obviously helpful to Hoosiers, but it means 428 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: we lose revenue for the state. That we've already built 429 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: budgets on. And so those are the provisions we're talking about. 430 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: There are a ton of them in that one big, 431 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: beautiful act they'll act. They all cost different things. The 432 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: one big one they've said before so far and they're 433 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: still debating a bunch of the others, is they're not 434 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: going to probably not going to do this large production 435 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: tax credit for businesses. I mean, it has a three 436 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: hundred million dollar price tag, and so I think they 437 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: decided that one is just not doable right now, but 438 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: they're considering a bunch of the other ones. 439 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com is the website. She's one 440 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: of the best in the business. Nikki Kelly, thank you, 441 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. 442 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: It's Kevin Casey on ninety three w IBC. 443 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: This Iran, Iran, Iran flock. 444 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 2: Of seagulls, Iran Iran. Do you go with either Iran 445 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: or Iran Iran? I used to say Iran or Iran 446 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Iran Iran, I mean Iran so far away and ran 447 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: to Iraq and then I ran back. 448 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: I could not get away. 449 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much like. 450 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Kev's in there, laughing hysterically. I got the reference. That's 451 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: good stuff right there. 452 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he should have used that song as a bumper. 453 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have done that. Yeah. 454 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: Anyway, whatever they are, they're a menace. I think we 455 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: can all agree with that. This feels like it's escalating though, 456 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: Like it really feels like we're I mean, we're moving 457 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: carriers into the region. While we're moving carriers, we presume 458 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: that is to be in that into the region. And 459 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: you've got clearly it appears that violence is still Plaquey's 460 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: taking place in the streets, despite directives from the President 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: for that to stop. You know, it's very hard to 462 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: get accurate information out of that country. It's very similar 463 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: to like a North Korea because they just shut everything off. 464 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: You're dealing with a bunch of insane people. And at 465 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: some point, if you know, those that bunker buster bomb 466 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: that we threw down on them several months ago didn't 467 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: stop them, you either got to just decide we're escalating 468 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: to full scale engagement or we're just gonna let it go. 469 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, you had Donald Trump saying help us on the way, 470 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: he didn't elaborate on any of the specifics, and then 471 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: just yesterday he said he had it on good authority 472 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: that the killing of protesters in Iran had stopped or 473 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: was stopping. He also stated that there were no plans 474 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: for executions. 475 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: We have been notified and pretty strongly. 476 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: But we'll find out what that all means. 477 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: But we've been told that the killing in Iran is stopping, 478 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: stopped and stopping, and there's no plan for executions or 479 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: an execution or executions. So I've been told that a 480 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: good authority. We'll find out about it. I'm sure if happens, 481 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: we'll be very upset, including you, will be very upset. 482 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: But that's just gotten to me from information that the 483 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 5: killing has stopped, that the executions have stopped, and not 484 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: going to have an execution, which a lot of people 485 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 5: were talking about for the last couple of days. Today 486 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: was going to be the day of execution. 487 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: So CBS This News was reporting that there have been 488 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: at least twelve thousand deaths, possibly up to twenty thousand. 489 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: But then you have Lindsay Graham who says that the 490 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: regime is still killing protesters, So he's contradicting what Trump said. 491 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: Look, they're still killing people, Okay, I mean, what rational 492 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: person thinks that, Oh, they. 493 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: Just decided they're going to stop Trump said stop. So 494 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: they're gonna know you're dealing with insane people. 495 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 3: I mean, we've been at this with these people for 496 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: almost fifty years now, like active turmoil related to Ron 497 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: and the Iranian regimes, and so I just think you're 498 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: gonna have to make the choice at some point. You 499 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: can't negotiate with them. How many times have we tried, 500 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: How many billions of dollars have we given these people, 501 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: and here they are. It doesn't work. They're insane psychopaths, 502 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: they're religious fanatics. They are the world's law arguably the 503 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. They hate us, they 504 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: hate freedom, they hate the American way of life, they 505 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: hate people who associate with us. 506 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: And so, whether that is. 507 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: Giving stuff to Israel to be able to do it, 508 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: whether it's US engaging in these covert type operations on 509 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: a much larger scale than what we saw you know 510 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: several months ago, you're going to have to do something 511 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: or just say we're done and we're just going to 512 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: let them operate as is, because the talking simply doesn't work. 513 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: They are just not going to respond to any sort 514 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: of reason or incentive laden plan put in front of them. 515 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: So when Donald Trump was asked about military action if 516 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: that was off the table. He said, We're going to 517 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: watch and see what the process is. And then the 518 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: Trump administration kind of indicated that they had a range 519 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: of options, including military strikes or even cyber operations. Yesterday 520 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: you had that big Verizon outage across the country, and 521 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: I so many people online saying, here we go, this 522 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: is the start of it, like the two were connected 523 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: on some level. But then Rob, you've got Rolling Stone 524 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: magazine saying that Trump is going to have a hard 525 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: time winning in Iran. 526 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: Ah Rolling Stone. 527 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: So you know, when you want to go to your 528 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: geo political experts, is it Rolling Stone magazine the first 529 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: one you go to? 530 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 531 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's clearly over for us if Rolling Stone 532 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: Magazine said, like I go back to that. 533 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: And I don't know how much of it's legitimate. I 535 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: don't know how much of it is hyperbole. I don't 536 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: know how much is exaggeration on how much of it 537 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: is the guy was in a tumultuous event and he 538 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: doesn't recall all of it properly, But that guy in Venezuela, 539 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: the guy that was part of Maduro's security force, and 540 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: him describing what that capture Madua was like, and the 541 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: and the military you know, military engagement that took place, 542 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: and the things that were you used, and you know, 543 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: the like the sound waves, and I mean, you realize 544 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: the US military can do whatever it wants to do. 545 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: And if we want to take Iron out, if we 546 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: want to cripple the Iranian regime, then we're gonna. 547 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Have the ability to do that. 548 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: But you got to make at some point case you 549 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: and I were talking about this on a different topic 550 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: not that long ago. At some point you just got 551 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: to make a decision and go with it. If you're 552 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: in a bad spot, you can't just drag it out forever. 553 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: You can't just let the feelings fester. You gotta just 554 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: say your piece and then whatever's gonna happen is going 555 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: to happen, right, And that's sort of where they're at, 556 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: and I think relatively soon you're going to see some 557 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: sort of action take place because talking with these people 558 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: simply does not work. 559 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So now we have to turn our attention to 560 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: what's going on with Greenland. Greenland, Greenland. 561 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: We can't do this on everyone, Casey. We got to 562 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: be very we gotta. 563 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: Be more judicious Okay, so they had talks yesterday and 564 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Denmark in the US they disagree on the future of 565 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: that country. 566 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Big time. 567 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I said that the discussions they were described 568 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: as frank but constructive. 569 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 570 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: So I was about to say destructive. 571 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: No, not yet, well constructive Okay. 572 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: Your husband works in the collectibles world, so oftentimes I'm 573 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: sure he has been on both ends of this where 574 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: either he has a collectible or he sees a collectible 575 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: that he would either that someone would like to acquire 576 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: from him, or he would like to acquire from someone else. 577 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: How does that work? 578 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: You make an offer, a negotiation, the person that either 579 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: accepts or rejects, You go back and forth. But really 580 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 3: it's not even about a negotiation, because it'd be if 581 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: your husband saw, you know, a magazine he wanted and 582 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: he makes an offer that he goes, no, no, no, it's 583 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: not for sale. Well but what if I no, no, no, man, 584 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't it doesn't matter, it's not for sale, like 585 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: this means too much to me, whatever whatever reason. It's 586 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: not for sale if your husband made doesn't I mean, 587 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: your husband just have an option and the guy's not 588 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: interested in selling it. But this would be the equivalent 589 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: of your husband and going over to that person's house, 590 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: kicking down their door and just go we I'll just 591 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: take it. Then that's sort of where we're at right 592 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: Denmark has the right to decide that's their country. They 593 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: can decide what happens to Greenland. They said they're not 594 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: interested in selling, they're not interested in giving it away. 595 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: They're not interested in what the United States is offering. 596 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: So Trump's can either have to decide I'm going to 597 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 3: escalate to this point where I'm kicking the guy's door 598 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: down and taking the magazine. I'm going to take it, 599 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: or just have to say, well, that didn't work out, 600 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: maybe something else in the future. And it seems like, 601 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: at least from a posturing standpoint, the US is considering 602 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: knocking down the guy's door and just taking the magazine. 603 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So the Trump administration said that the US needs 604 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Greenland for the Golden Dome project and also for NATO effectiveness. 605 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 2: But when when he was asked about it, will we 606 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: take Greenland by force? 607 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: He said no. 608 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: Right now, it sounds like you were saying that you 609 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: would potentially acquire Greenland by a force that would be 610 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: a NATO country in China. 611 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: Are you saying how would you do? 612 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 5: Now you're saying that you're telling me that that's what 613 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to do. 614 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm going to do? So what 615 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: are the options? 616 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: Your network doesn't know it did? 617 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: Danish for ad minister said that there's still fundamental differences. 618 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: After the meeting with Rubio and with. 619 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: The Vice president. Are you willing to leave the NATO 620 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: alliance in order to get what you want which Greenland? 621 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: What are the options? 622 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: Really? 623 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be telling you what I'm willing to do. 624 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 5: Certainly I'm not going to give up options, but it's 625 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: very important. Greenland's very important for the national security, including 626 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: of Denmark. And the problem is is not a thing 627 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 5: that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China 628 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. 629 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 5: You found that out last week with Venezuela. There's everything 630 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 5: we can do about things such as that's not going 631 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 5: to happen. We're not you know, I can't rely on 632 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: Denmark being able to find themselves off. You know they 633 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 5: were talking about they put an extra dog and the 634 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 5: serious about this, they put an extra dog sled there 635 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: plussed month they edit a second dog sled that's not 636 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: going to do the tricks were fought alongside. 637 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: In the United States, it's so very unpopular idea. But 638 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: there's a new Reuter's ipsos pull that came out and 639 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: it says only seventeen percent of US adults approve of 640 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: the push to acquire Greenland, and forty seven percent disapprove well, 641 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: and only four percent want military options. 642 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Well, you ever have a friend who's about to do 643 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: something like kind of silly or there's something they should 644 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: be doing, and you're you're trying to give them advice, right, hey, 645 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: you really should whatever, and they don't take it. Well, 646 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: that's frustrating, but that's their life. They can choose not 647 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: to take it. In the case of Trump with Greenland 648 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: or the US with Greenland, sure would it be in 649 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: their interest to have some sort of a relationship with 650 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: the United States, some sort of guaranteed defense mechanism whatever. Probably, 651 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: But if they don't see it or they don't. 652 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: Think it, they're not going to get on board. 653 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: Well, all you can do is offer that and you 654 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: start really, Okay, Venezuela, we're doing that. Okay, Greenland, We're 655 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: exploitly doing that. Okay, iron we're sbloadly doing that. People 656 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: start seeing this, right or wrong, as a continuation of 657 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: interventionalism from the US in terms of foreign policy. They 658 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: have not seen fruitful results of that in a post 659 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: World War two US government, and so yeah, they're going 660 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: to recoil against it. Is Trump wrong, No, he's not wrong. 661 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: He's absolutely right. It probably would be very helpful to 662 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: numerous things he wants to do. Probably would be very 663 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: helpful to the United States on numerous fronts related to 664 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: foreign policy and defense of this country. There is no 665 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: dispute about that. But there's probably lots of countries where 666 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: that would be the case, and we can't. You can't 667 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: invade every single country. And so again it comes back 668 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: to unless you're willing to just knock down the guy's 669 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: door and take it by force, you're just not gonna 670 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: get the country. 671 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: More Republicans are open to the idea than Democrats. Democrats 672 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly oppose the idea. Forty percent of Republicans approve of it. 673 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: But you got to wonder is it because they're just 674 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: supporting Donald Trump, or is it because they really think 675 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: that's a good idea for the country. 676 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: What would the what would the polling be if Biden 677 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: were still president? 678 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: Right, if it were somebody else? Right, what would they're 679 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: even a different Republican president. 680 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: Well, and then that gets you know, I know, I 681 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: got to get to a break here, But that gets 682 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: you back into the idea that we talk about of 683 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: people not really having any most people set of core 684 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: convictions in terms of their politics. Well, my side did it, 685 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: so it's good. Well, but what if the exact what 686 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: if the opposite side did the exact same thing, Well, 687 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: then they would think it's bad. And unless you are 688 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: able to walk through life with some sort of core 689 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: set of beliefs to guide you, then you're always just 690 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: going to be pingponging based on who's in power rather 691 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: than the policy itself, and thus you keep getting bad 692 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: public policy. 693 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 694 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about? I got so 695 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: distracted doing that great we grow hair, Indy liver reied. 696 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: I just totally had a brain cram. 697 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: You did fantastic at that, by the way. Oh thanks 698 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: knocking it out of the park. By the way, have 699 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: you heard the phrase of bald maxing for the who 700 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: bald maxing? 701 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: No, what is that? 702 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: It's it's well, you know, it's when you accept your baldness. 703 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: I guess it just reminded me because you did that 704 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: we grow hair, Indie spot. 705 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you mean accept my baldness? 706 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Like you don't have to. 707 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: You don't go to we grow hair, Indy. 708 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: Is that what you're racked men who are losing their men? Okay, right, 709 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: it's called bald maxing. I don't just accept that they're 710 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: thinning on top. 711 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: And well, I don't know, like I do this every 712 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: so often where I'll go look at old pictures of 713 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 3: myself before we grow hair, Indy, and I'll think, man 714 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 3: as hideous as I actually look right now, I think 715 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: how bad I would be if I plunder what I 716 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: would look like if I hadn't done that. 717 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: Those five years ago. 718 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was worth it? 719 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I mean look at you now. I 720 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: mean look, here's what I tell people. The first month 721 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: look good. 722 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: Little rough, right, Like I'm not gonna lie. You know, 723 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: we don't fit here. 724 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: We you know, we talk about sponsors, we use, we 725 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: support the people that we use. We give you the 726 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: honest assessment. First month of the procedure a little rough, right, 727 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: but after that then the result's totally worth. 728 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: It, right, Yeah, And look at you now. 729 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: And look, I mean I'm probably I'm not saying I'm 730 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: GQ level of beautiful, but I. 731 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: Got a punch of I saw you comment on X yesterday. 732 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: Look how beautiful you look on the big screen? 733 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Si good a podcast. I was commenting about that. What 734 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: do you want to do? 735 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about how you've got Donald Trump 736 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: and Marco Rubio oh joing to the college football playoff 737 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: national championships. Right, So You've got Donald Trump on one side, 738 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: who has picked a favorite. He's been praising Fernando Mendoza. 739 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: So it seems that Donald Trump is picking on you. 740 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: But then you've got Marco Rubio on the other side, 741 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: who is a Miami native and he's gonna go with 742 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes. 743 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this could be fascinating. Is the line still 744 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 3: eight and a half? 745 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 746 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: I was curious about filibuster for a second here, and 747 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll look that up broke back. 748 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: Another interesting tidbit about this is that Trump's granddaughter Kai Trump, 749 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: She's committed now to play golf at University of Miami. 750 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: Oh he is still going to be cheering for the Hoosiers. 751 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, the line is still late and half. So 752 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 3: Miami is getting eight and a half points. You've got 753 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: an over under a forty seven and a half. Here's 754 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 3: the thing nobody's talking about, and I think IU fans 755 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 3: need to be aware of this. Miami has a hell 756 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: of a defensive line. I mean, there are some dudes 757 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: and they bully people at the line of scrimmage. IU 758 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: has really only played one team thus far this year 759 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: that I would say is a comparative defensive line. 760 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: And who was that? 761 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 3: That was Iowa and i you had the problems with Iowa. 762 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: I Will probably should have won that Gamemeber they were 763 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: driving late and then it all fell apart. 764 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: They I think they must field goal. 765 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying it's an apples to apples comparison, 766 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 3: but Miami's got a quarterback that's been there in college 767 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: football nine million years, Carson Beck, and you got a 768 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 3: defensive line with some dudes. Eight and a half's a lot, 769 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, I'm leaning on the degenerate 770 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 3: sex stor sports betting podcast. I'm leaning on taking Miami 771 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: getting eight and a half. Now, that doesn't mean I 772 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: think Miami win the game eight and a half a 773 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: lot of points. That's a touchdown, a two point conversion, 774 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: and then another point. Right, that's a lot for a 775 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: team that's playing in the national championship game that has 776 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: arguably been the best team in college football since the 777 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: tournament started. 778 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying that they're disappointed that 779 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Marco Rubio are going to be at 780 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: this game because now it's turning into a distraction. I 781 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: think it's mostly Hoosiers that are saying that, like, let's 782 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: just have fun with a football game and not make 783 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: it political on any level. 784 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it is political. Right. Can't you 785 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: just go watch a football game without it being political. 786 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, when Donald Trump shows up automatically people are going 787 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: to have an opinion on that. 788 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: Well, it does raise the question how much does it 789 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: cost us as taxers for all presidents. I'm not just 790 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: saying Trump, I was a Biden, any of these people 791 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: for them to go do their see, I think I'd 792 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: try to pass off. I was in the Congress saying 793 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: no fun of any kind. If you're the president, we 794 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 3: give you the big house. 795 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: You'll live there. 796 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: If you got another house, I guess you can go 797 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 3: to that one. But none of this like leisure travel stuff, 798 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: because we as taxers are paying for that. And if 799 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: you don't want that job, there's three hundred and fifty 800 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: million people in this country or thirty or forty or 801 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 3: whatever it is, there's no people that would want the job. 802 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: You live in the house, you do the job. It's 803 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: a twenty four to seven job. 804 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: No, we're screwing around on a golf course or going 805 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: to football games. 806 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: What about the Army Navy game? Should they show up 807 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: for that? 808 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay, that's the military, right, Maybe that's a little different. Okay, 809 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: And that's not that far for him to travel. You 810 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: go there by a helicopter, right, correct? 811 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, how do you think he's gonna get done 812 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: to Miami. 813 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Based going on an AirPair? First one? Yeah, a helicopter to Miami. 814 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: It does also highlight that there's this growing relationship between 815 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Marco Rubio. 816 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Come back, let's take a colossal dump on Mike bron how's. 817 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: That sound sounds good? It is Kennel and Casey on 818 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: ninety three WYBC