1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: Okay. 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 2: Look, I'm, by no means some sort of etiquette expert. Yeah, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: and I'm not a you know, a decorum snob. Okay, 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: but there is something bizarre about a sitting US congressman 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: getting into a fight with the radio guy on social media, right. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean that is especially. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: When he's got a big day ahead of it. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Well, so we'll get to the Marlin the bizarre Marlin 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Stutsman behavior here in just a little bit. But first, 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: obviously everybody's coming on glued because they are just desperate. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: The Republicans are desperate, well not even the Republicans, A 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: select group of Republicans are desperate down the street from 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: US to try to alter these maps to cover for 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: their bad governance. And I think part of the behavior 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Casey is especially yesterday, and kayleb Dwyer from Indie Star 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: is going to join us here at nine point thirty 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: because she was there yesterday covering the whole event. I 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: think there is a sense, and I heard this from 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: multiple people yesterday, there is a sense that the Senate 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: is going to is gonna pull the trigger on a 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: thumbs down on this and totally humiliate the governor in 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: front of the entire nation that the Broadbray had basically 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: reached the up for with which he could not stand 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: with the governor. 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: So you think he's saying, Okay, this is what you want, Well, 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: we'll do it. We'll come and we'll take a vote. 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Look, look, nobody knows exactly how it's going to go 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: next week. They certainly could you know, scrounch together twenty 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: five votes and you know the lieutenant governor would be 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: the tie breaker. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: They could do that. I'm not saying it's not going 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to happen. 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've talked to multiple people who were 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: there yesterday who have sort of their ear to the 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: ground on this, and they said it is looking more 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: and more like that that is the path that's going 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: to go forward. Now that again, let me say this, 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 2: that would shock me. That would shock me if they allow. 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it would be an utterly humiliating defeat for 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Mike Brunt. I would be thrilled to death to see 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: it happen, but it would be an I would be 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: shocked to see it happen because normally, at all costs, 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: the governor of the party in power is protected by 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: the other you know, the power structure. But we may 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: have reached a point with Braun repeatedly insulting and goating 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: Rod Bray, the pro tim the leader of the Senate, 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: trying to humiliate him, trying to bully him. That Bray 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: just said, Okay, if this is what you want, I 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: will stop trying to save you from yourself and go yeah, 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: and let's let's do it. So when you see kind 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: of the tensions and the way things are playing out 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: and the ridiculous behavior from from so many people, maybe 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: there maybe there is something to that. 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: It'll be really interesting to see which way this falls. 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: Do you think Houston's on the side with Bray, I 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: mean like that, He's just like okay, I mean the 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: House will pass. It'll pass the House even with the language. 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: It's Bill ten thirty two, and the bill includes what 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: some language saying that there's a temporary restraining order may 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: not be sought or issued. Also gives the Indiana Supreme 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: Court mandatory and exclusive jurisdiction over appeals. 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically what they this is what I said. 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I said. 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I used to you know, 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: you would play with your friends and I would shout out, 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: I claimed this land in the name of Spain. It 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: didn't mean that I actually had any power to claim land, 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: nor did I actually govern the country of Spain. Right, 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want, It doesn't mean that 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: the legal community, for lack of a better term, has 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: to abide by. What they're trying to do is shut 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: down some county judge. This getting shopped to some county judge. 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: To shut it down. 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Now, the most likely scenario if the map that they 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: went forward with yesterday is what they proceed with, is 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: a federal judge is going to swipe it down because 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: of stuff related to the Voting Rights Act until the 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: Supreme Court rules of this. 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: But again I come back to in all of this, right, 80 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: what have. 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: The Republicans done that you would say, man, I just 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: hope there's two more of these people. What at a 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: state or a federal level have the Republicans done in 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: terms of governance where you would say, man, everything's just 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: going to be so much better if there's two more 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Republicans in Washington, DC. And what you come back to 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: repeatedly is the Republicans once again have had an opportunity 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: to govern the American people in a way in which 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: the American people would want to vote for them. All 90 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: they would have to do is follow through on campaign promises. 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: They haven't done that. The primary issue of which people 92 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: are upset about to the point where it depending on 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: what happens today in Tennessee, you could see a massive upset. 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: Now. 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, but it looks 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: like it's going to be close. In a say previously, 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: say for a district, they have not a asked the 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: issue of inflation and affordability of living because they won't 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: stop spending money. 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: Well, the thing they keep saying, though, is that if 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 4: they don't readistrict and they don't have the house, Trump 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: will be a lame duck president and he won't be 103 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: able to get anything done. So therefore he won't be 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: able to do anything about the inflation or the economy. 105 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: So the first year when he had control over everything, 106 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: he didn't do anything about it. But you just wait 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: next year. Does this sound familiar? Casey, have we heard 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: this before? 109 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna come back to it. We got an ace 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: up our sleeve. 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: This is exactly what they told us with property tax. 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: This is exactly what Braun told me with property and 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: I told him. He was full of it, and I 114 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: told him where he could shove that ace up his sleeve. 115 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: That became his phrase. 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Later. 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: I was told, which, Oh, we'll get this and the 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: next year we'll come back for something else, and it's 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: gonna be big and it's gonna be great. Have you 120 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 2: heard a word from the governor about what he's coming 121 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: back for. 122 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: No, for property tax? 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, because. 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: He's not coming back for anything. And the same thing 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: with Trump. They're not doing anything. There's nothing being done 126 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: in Washington, DC right now, whether it's the spending bills 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: that they're passing, whether it's that big bullcrap bill that 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: they pass, whether it's the tariffs, there's nothing being done 129 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: that you would say, Okay, right around the corner, we're 130 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: going to start getting this inflation, the price of living 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: under control. They don't have a plan to address it. 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: They're not going to address it. And all this is 133 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: is about Trump not wanting to have to deal with 134 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: the Democrats for the remainder of his two years as 135 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: president of the United States. 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: That's all this is about. 137 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Well, not only that, but there's also talk that if 138 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: he doesn't have control, impeachment proceedings, So the last couple 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: of years of his administration would just be bogged down 140 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: with that. 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So let's play this out because I keep 142 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: hearing the impeachment PTPs. So they did it twice when 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: he was president. The last time was he still the president? 144 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: How many votes does it take? I believe it's sixty 146 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: six votes to impeach someone in the House. In the 147 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: United States Senate, even if the Democrats have a landslide 148 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: and win every swing election this coming year, they'll barely 149 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: be in the majority, much less have the sixty six. 150 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Look all you're doing with these maps, and at the 151 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: core of this, this is what this is about for me. 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: All you're doing with these maps, if you alter them 153 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: in Indiana is you're bailing out bad Republican governance. You're 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: telling the Republicans if you do this, it doesn't matter 155 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: how you govern us. It doesn't matter that you don't 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: follow through. It doesn't matter that you don't keep your promises. 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that you don't deliver, because you'll just 158 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: keep your power by changing the rules of the game 159 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: in the middle of the game. The Republicans are the 160 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: only hope to ever actually fix this country because the 161 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: Democrats we wait, bye bye to those guys a long 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: time ago. Right, And if the Republicans keep getting away, 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: it's like your kid. 164 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: If your kid. 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: Misbehaves, you've raised a child, casey. If your kid lied 166 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: to you repeatedly or misbehave, or you told them to 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: do something and they didn't do it, do it or 168 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: you like here, Emily, here's more candy. Go hang out 169 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: with your friends. Can I give you twenty bucks for 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: the evening? 171 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Is that how you handled it? 172 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: No? 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: What'd you do? Well? 174 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: You disciplined exactly. 175 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: The Republicans need to be disciplined. The Republicans are Livy Kendall. 176 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: The Republicans are the two and a half year old 177 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: who know that if they draw on the wall because 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 2: they know it's wrong, and you tell them it's wrong, 179 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: you're going. 180 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: In time out. 181 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: What they want to do is I'm supposed to be 182 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: giving Livy cookies when she draws on the wall. 183 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Hey, I know I told you not to do that. Hey, 184 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: I know you know what's wrong. 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you did it. Anyway, here's a cookie. The 186 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Republicans right now, by trying to change these maps, are 187 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: my two and a half year old kid who has 188 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: just drawn on the wall despite the fact that she 189 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: knows it's wrong, and they want the people of Indiana 190 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: to give them cookies for it. 191 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: So everybody's saying that Indiana is you know, everything's riding 192 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: on Indiana getting this done. 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis just announced that. 194 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: Florida is going to redistrict. So maybe it's not all 195 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: an Indiana shoulders. 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's all ridiculous anyway. Kayla Dwier will be 197 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 2: with there's Mendi Star at nine point thirty. She was 198 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: there all day yesterday. We'll get the vibe. You'll feel 199 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: what the vibe is. 200 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: By the way, they're having the committee vote this morning, 201 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 4: like right now. 202 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: Well, nothing says we desperately want to be transparent and 203 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: want your participation, like giving the public less than twenty 204 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: four hours notice to show up to something. Right, That's 205 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: what they think about you. That's that is their opinion 206 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: of you on everything. We don't care about you. We 207 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: don't care what you have to say. We're just gonna 208 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: do what we're gonna do if it benefits us. What 209 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: are we doing next? What's going on? 210 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: Oh, well, let's see, we've got the map that I 211 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: really don't like the weather map. 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Can we talk about the driving when we come back. 213 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: Can we talk about the drive in just the just 214 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: the public and not I'm sure there's many people hearing 215 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: us right now who are wonderful drivers, but there are 216 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: a few people out there who are ruining it for everyone. 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: It's Kennel and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 218 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: So you're getting your some. 219 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: Couple of tickets to that Big Ten Championship game on 220 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Saturday night. 221 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: You know, had I only bottom sooner, it would have 222 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: been a lot more inexpensive. 223 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, it's Kenell, Casey, Sean Rob that's Casey. Big Ten 224 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: Championship Saturday night. We're talking football. It's IU Yes versus 225 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State, the Ohio State University. Okay last year? Didn't 226 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: we talk about this last year? Because for those who 227 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: don't know, Casey is an events person. She likes to 228 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: go to things, even if it's things like it's not 229 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: my favorite topic or event or whatever. You just like 230 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: to go to events where there's large amounts of people. 231 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: Right, It's all how you frame it, right, Like, I'm 232 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: not a huge Major League Baseball fan, but if you say, hey, 233 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: you want to go out to this open air bar 234 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: with ten thousand of your closest friends. 235 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: It's a little different. Sure, I'll go. 236 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So last year the Big ten championship game was 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: Penn State and Oregon, and I seem to recall the tickets. 238 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: We had this conversation that tickets were like readily available 239 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: and they were very cheap on the open market, and 240 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: you were pondering. 241 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: You and Jim, your husband, were pondering going last year. Yeah, 242 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: they were so cheap. 243 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: But this year it's a different story. I'm looking at 244 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: the price of some of these tickets. Wow, so you've 245 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: got they range between thirty two hundred dollars and three 246 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety is the lowest I'm able to see? 247 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: And is that like the Tippy the tebby top of 248 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Lucas Oil State the nosebleeds. 249 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: So I think we're going to have to pass. 250 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: What's the most darn it? 251 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: That would be good, That would be fine. 252 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: What's the most you've ever paid to go to an event, 253 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: any event, sports, concert, whatever? 254 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm not the one who normally does the purchases. 255 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Someone else just pays. How great of you? 256 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: Huh? 257 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: Just go along and look pretty Jim text me, what's 258 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: the most you've ever paid to go to? 259 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: Right? He's paid? 260 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Can you He's like, diego hot, pay pay. 261 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: To the game, pay for the tickets. 262 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 263 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, when I went to the Rolling Stones when 264 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: they were at the track at twenty fifteen, I paid 265 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: three hundred dollars for that ticket. 266 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a once in a lifetime thing 267 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: and it was the like the way. 268 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: The tickets were structured. It was I think they called 269 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: it a gold pass. I got a friend who was 270 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: very connected was able to get it for me, and 271 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: he was able to get me a ticket. So I 272 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: went by myself and it was like, okay, I'm guaranteed. 273 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: Basically when I'm planning on getting there to be in 274 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: one of the first five rows, it was all standing right. 275 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was the receipt and I was like, 276 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: I was right by the stage. So it's like, Okay, 277 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm never gonna have this opportunity again, and I'm going 278 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: to be right next, Like I'm as close to Mick 279 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Jagger as you and I are right now. 280 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Gotta do it. But you're paying three hundred and ninety 281 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: bucks to be at the top of the stadium. 282 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: One thing like, Oh, you're on the fifty yard line, 283 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: Row one, it's gonna be great. 284 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: You're at the top of the stadium. 285 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's not even fifty yard line top 286 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: of the stadium. 287 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: It's a corner, so construct value. Yeah. 288 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: Now, if you do want to get on the fifty 289 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: yard line section one for two, there is a ticket 290 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: available for three two forty two dollars. Now there's two 291 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: left in one of the end zones for twenty three hundred. 292 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: Now, okay, if you're an events person and you just 293 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: have infinite money or you know, money to throw around, okay, 294 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: But you and I have had this conversation before. With 295 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: television being so advanced, now. 296 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: You can feel like you're at the game, there's like. 297 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Unless you just want to be at the event itself, 298 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: there's zero reason to attend a sporting event because the 299 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: television experience is so much better. I mean, you get 300 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: the replay, like, you get all the camera angles, you 301 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: can go to the bathroom when you want, the drink 302 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: server more readily of available and cheaper like. The television 303 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: has made going to a sporting event obsolete unless you 304 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: just want the experience of being at. 305 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: The game, being around some other fans. 306 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: I prefer to have quick access to the bathroom and 307 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: whatever food I want. Now I'm okay. So I was 308 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: looking on StubHub. Now I'm looking at ticket Masters. Oh, 309 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: to see if there's a difference. 310 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: Huh. 311 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of tickets on Ticketmaster in the 312 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: four hundred dollars range. 313 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: But are they tippy tops? 314 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: Oh let's see here this one section one thirteen. Yeah, 315 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: that's not so good. 316 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: Hey, real quickly, sink A Master's a lot harder to navigate, 317 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: by the way. 318 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's called a monopoly. Okay, real quick. Before 319 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: we go, can we talk about the drive in today? 320 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: Was it slow going for you? 321 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: How was it for you? Because you get better Hell 322 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: on Earth better known as Washington Street. Now you should 323 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: be five minutes from the station, but they totally carved 324 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: up Washington. 325 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: I had to do a detour by the way yesterday 326 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: on my way home because they were digging a huge. 327 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Hole right in the middle of Washington. Actually, it wasn't 328 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: so bad on my way in this morning. 329 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: I think it was mostly because there was less traffic, 330 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 4: less people out and about. I did have a moment 331 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: where I had to do a little swerve because there 332 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: was a guy walking down the middle of the short of. 333 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Course there was well my thing was this. So there 334 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: was an accident on seventy and while it wouldn't have 335 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: impeded because it was west instead of east, it was 336 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: impeding the traffic on four sixty five to get to seventy. 337 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: So I had to detour off on Tenth Street, and 338 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: for some reason, and God blessed the town of Speedway. 339 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: Every time I have to schedoodle through Speedway on Tenth 340 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Street when it's snowing like especially like past Allison's et cetera, 341 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: it's a nightmare. 342 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why Speedway. 343 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: Can pull off and go into big woods a bear. 344 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: Well at seven thirty in the morning. Yes, I don't 345 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: know why Speedway can't ever get tenth Street. They're around 346 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: Alice since figured out, but they but they can't. And 347 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: then obviously Indianapolis it's always a dumpster fire anytime you know, 348 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: you got to Indiana Avenue and you're just you're holding 349 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: onto the wheel with both hands, praying that nobody in 350 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: front of you stops. 351 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: I was pleasantly surprised the side streets were cleared. They 352 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: were plowed this morning. No kidding, Yeah, I know. 353 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: I almost said something else would have gotten in big trouble. Yeah, 354 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: all right, let's take a break. Kayla Dwyer from Indie 355 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Stars going to join us next. She was at the 356 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: State House all day yesterday. One of the things we're 357 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: gonna ask her is, look, I kind of think the 358 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: House is going to go forward with these redistricting maps, 359 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of people like me are starting 360 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: to feel maybe the Senate isn't isn't so game in 361 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: terms of voting for redistricting. What is the vibe inside 362 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: two hundred West Washington. 363 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: She joins us. Next on ninety three WIBC. 364 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Casey, was a big day at the State House. 365 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: Has was something going on? What are you talking about? 366 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: There were people, there was protesting, there were bills being filed. 367 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: Of course, it's all centers around redistricting. Let's find out 368 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: exactly what took place yesterday. One of the best reporters 369 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: in the business from the Indie Star, Kayla Dwyer, joins us. 370 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: Now, Kayla, Hello, oh my goodness. Hello. 371 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: I always love that when the reporter starts with, oh 372 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: my goodness. 373 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: But she didn't know how to react to your compliment. 374 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: I think, well, that's what we do. We wow everyone 375 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: with our charm in chrisma. 376 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: All right, so tell us yesterday you were there, let's 377 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: start sorry about that. Yeah yeah, yeah, So let's start 378 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: with that, Like, did you get a feel for the 379 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: mood in the House, the House of Representatives who is 380 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: meeting this week, the Senate will meet next week. Did 381 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: you get a feel for an overall mood, like are 382 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: these guys fired up about this? Are we doing it? 383 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: Because well, we've just got to do it. What's kind 384 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: of the feel of the Republican House members. 385 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: It's definitely not a super fired up feel. It's just 386 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 6: kind of a we're here, we're doing it it. And 387 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 6: when when you when you talk to speaker House Speaker. 388 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: Todd Houston, he's he's saying all the things. 389 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 6: That you say, you know, to support this, I'm not 390 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 6: necessarily feeling the fervor. But you know, it's not a 391 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 6: lot of smiles in the room. Let's just say that. 392 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: Going through the motions you say. 393 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 6: I would say so, and I don't think that's unfair. 394 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: I mean, this is something that was not their idea. 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: They're doing it, you know. 396 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: Did you get a sense that you did get some 397 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 4: fervor from Representative Delaney? 398 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 5: The man is not short of fervor. 399 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, how Democrats did their best to make the day 400 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 6: into interesting given their super minority status. There was a 401 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: lot of consternation over what they alleged the House rule 402 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 6: that was broken to meet yesterday at all. Basically the 403 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 6: rule that says in order to change the time of 404 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 6: meat from a resolution, there needs to be agreement from 405 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 6: the House Speaker and the House Minority leader. So you know, 406 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 6: Democrats got really worked up about that, and they pulled 407 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 6: out other stops to try to stop proceedings. They tried 408 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 6: to adjourn early, they tried to reject the bill, the 409 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 6: maps bill on first reading. And yeah, ed Delaney from Indianapolis, 410 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 6: he said, this is the lowest day in the legislature 411 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: since he's been there since two thousand. 412 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: Well, he's seen some low points. Kayla Dwyer from Indie 413 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: Starr is our guess. She was at the State House 414 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 2: yesterday covering the big event. So there was protests. There 415 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: were a lot of people there. There were a lot 416 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: of anti anti redistricting people. Do you get a sense 417 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: that that these protests one way or rallies for do 418 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: they affect these lawmakers at all? 419 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 6: Well, I don't want to be uncharitable, but if they 420 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 6: affect them insofar as when you're in the chamber you 421 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 6: could hear them the whole time, and it was that 422 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: that creates a bit of tension. Like anytime there was 423 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 6: a gap in someone's speech, you heard loud booing or cheering, 424 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: depending on who it's speaking. 425 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: So so that definitely created some tension. 426 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 6: But you know, at the end of the day, the 427 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 6: Republicans that control the state, how are there to do 428 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 6: something and they're regardless of what the protesters say, they're 429 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 6: going to do what they set out to do. 430 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: In my opinion, Cayla. 431 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: Do you think you mentioned it created tension. Do you 432 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: think that there was more tension based on all of 433 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: the recent swatting that has been happening that. 434 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: Certainly levels up the tension. 435 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, I do think they're generally speaking, there's 436 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 6: an atmosphere of of of fear, not not fear in 437 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 6: the way that it's going to deter the procedings in 438 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 6: my view, But you know, it's something that's in the. 439 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 5: Air, like who's next. 440 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 6: It seems to be affecting senators more than the House members. 441 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 5: So it's not something that was brought up. 442 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 6: At all yesterday, but I certainly feel like that could 443 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 6: be more of a mood changer in the Senate next week. 444 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: Kayla Dwyer from Indie Star is our guest, So it 445 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: sort of feels like a FATA complete that the Republicans 446 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: are going to pass. On the House side. The big 447 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: intrigue is the Senate. Are you guys getting any sense 448 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: of what's going on as it relates to the Senate. 449 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: Do they have the votes? 450 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 5: It sounds like they still might not. 451 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 6: I mean, the behavior from and the rhetoric from President 452 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: Trump and some supporters seems to be adding more voices 453 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 6: to the anti coalition, you know, essentially making people angry. Now, 454 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 6: there's still a lot of senators who just have been 455 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 6: silent and remain silent, So without being in the Caucaus room, it's. 456 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: Hard to know. 457 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 6: But the vibe, if you will, is that perhaps their 458 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 6: meeting next week to you know, honor. 459 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: Their due diligence. 460 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 6: But I think it's still very unclear how that vote 461 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: is going to go now. 462 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 4: Senator Bray had announced on November fourteenth that the Senate 463 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: didn't have enough votes, and you recently created an article 464 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: about him and how he's been consistent in his message. 465 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: I'm wondering, do you think that there's a tilt at 466 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: all with him? Is he's swaying at all? 467 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: You know, him deciding to ultimately meet is a little 468 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: bit of a reversing, of course, but it's hard to 469 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 6: discern whether that's in response to the ramp up pressure 470 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 6: in the form of public safety, you know, the swating incidents, 471 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 6: or if it's a change of position on the issue. 472 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: And I highly suspect. 473 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: It's the former Kayla Dwyer from Indy Stars our guest 474 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes left with her. She was 475 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: in the State House yesterday for the beginning of the 476 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth session, redistricting front and center on that. 477 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: One of the bills away from redistricting that got a 478 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: lot of attention yesterday was Danny Lopez. He is the 479 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: Central Indiana State rep. He files this bill which would 480 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: essentially change the way that the lieutenant governors elected, taking 481 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: that away from the delegates, giving it to the governor's 482 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: nominee him or herself. Was there any reaction, I mean, 483 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: it got a lot of play on social media, but 484 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: was there any reaction yesterday inside the state House to that. 485 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 6: I will be honest, the redistricting took all of the 486 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 6: auction in yesterday. This was something that was being like 487 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 6: whispered about in the hallways and among. 488 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 5: The press corps, but hardly. 489 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: Had a chance to even focus on it. But it's 490 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 6: certainly intriguing, and you know, something that had been whispered 491 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: about for since Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck was elected in 492 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 6: the way that he was. 493 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll get you out of here with this. 494 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: When you talk to the pro redistricting people, not the politicians, 495 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: but the people that are there, do they really think 496 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: like the country hangs in the balance on these two 497 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Democrat seats flipping red? Like is that a genuine belief 498 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: that these people have It? 499 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 5: Actually is? 500 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: I think, because you know, I was just thinking the 501 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 6: other day, I really need to look up the math 502 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: on this. But with you know what California did, I mean, 503 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: there is a strong contention that we could be one 504 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 6: of those difference makers, like with these couple of seats. 505 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: I need to check those numbers personally, but pretty much 506 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 6: when you talk to the pro side. The national picture 507 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 6: is the big driving force. We are not in a vacuum. 508 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: This is. 509 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: We need to play a part in this or we 510 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 6: could lose the majority. 511 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: In the House. It's an unusual position for Indiana. 512 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 6: We don't usually We usually do our own thing. 513 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: You know, she does a phenomenal job covering Indiana politics 514 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: and government. Indie Star dot com is the website, Kayla Dwyer, 515 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. 516 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: It's Ken Casey on ninety three WIBC. 517 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: This, uh, this lawsuit involving well streaming or or I 518 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: guess internet service is fascinating me. Can we get into 519 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: this for a few minutes? Sure, it's Kinna like Casey 520 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: showing Rob. That's Casey. Casey, as you know in this program, 521 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: does all the work here. I simply just show up 522 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: and I say what are we doing? And then Casey's like, 523 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: it's on the templat well, because she'll tell me what 524 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: she wants to do, and I'll say, okay, where can 525 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: I find this story? 526 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: It's on the template I spent five hours on. Is 527 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: that how I sound in your mind? 528 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: And then I'll say what time did you have that 529 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: on the template? 530 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Out? 531 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so this is fast this fastic story. 532 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: Though USA Today has the story, and it is about 533 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: a billion dollar lawsuit that has made its way all 534 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: the way to the Supreme Court, involving basically essentially the 535 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: music community, for lack of a better term, suing Cox. 536 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: What are the Cox Communications? 537 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: Cox Communications? 538 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: They're a massive internet provider. 539 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: They're a broadcast company, but also they provide internet service. 540 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sony Music Entertainment and fifty other record labels 541 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: are involved in this, and they were saying, look, Cox 542 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: has this internet provider, has not done enough to curb 543 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 2: the tide of blatantly illegal internet streaming. 544 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, music piracy is what it is. 545 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: Which blows my mind, Casey that in a world where 546 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: you can go to YouTube at any time and get 547 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: whatever song you want, like pretty much whatever song you picked, 548 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: there's going to be you might have to sit through 549 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: an ad, right, Like there may be an ad before 550 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: you get the song. You can know whatever song you 551 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: want for free. Doown people still do the illegal internet downloading? 552 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: That blows my mind. 553 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: So music companies are saying that Cox Communications let sixty 554 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: thousand customers share ten thousand copyrighted songs. 555 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: Illegally, and so they took them to court. 556 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: And the court said, okay, yeah, billion dollar fine. They appealed, 557 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: and then a later court threw it out and ordered 558 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: a new trial. And now the new trial is at 559 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court is now deciding 560 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: whether Cox can still be held responsible for quote, helping piracy. 561 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: Cox is saying, we're not helping anybody, and the music 562 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 4: industry is saying, yeah, but you didn't stop them either. 563 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: So this is a fascinating conversation that could affect I mean, 564 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: everybody going forward, depending on how this thing alters gets 565 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: sort of decided. In the end, it looks like it's 566 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: going to be in the side of the Internet provider Cox. 567 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: By the way, the Justice Department, a whole bunch of 568 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: other big wigs have lined up behind Cox because, like, 569 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: I see both sides of this, where the music industry 570 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: is saying, hey, wait a second, we get paid off 571 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: of legitimate you know, downloads, transactions, listens, pay services, using 572 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: you know, streaming our music, Amazon, Apple Music, whatever it is, 573 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 2: and you're you are bypassing our ability to get paid. 574 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: These people are bypassing our ability to get paid by 575 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: illegally pirrating our music. And Cox, you're the Internet provider 576 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: we're telling you where this is coming from, we're giving 577 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: you the IP addresses, and you're not doing anything about it. 578 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: Cox then says, and it's a valid point. Look, we're 579 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: not the police, we're not law enforcement, right, we don't 580 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: have investigated powers. We don't know who in this house 581 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: is doing it. If it's a kid and the internet 582 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: is paid for and you know, given to an adult, 583 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna be screwing not only that person, at everybody 584 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: in that house. Then let's extrapolate this out too. I 585 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: think they used as an example army barracks, hospitals, hotels. 586 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: They said, this is just impossible for us to police 587 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: every single person, and we're gonna end up punishing people 588 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this, right. 589 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 590 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: Cox is saying that the judgment could jeopardize internet access 591 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: for all Americans because they're saying, yeah, you gave us 592 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: this IP address, but what is actually at that IP address. 593 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: We can't just randomly cut off the IP address because 594 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: you're saying there's music piracy. What if it is a hospital, 595 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 4: what if it is a military base. 596 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: And so it comes back to the music industry is 597 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: sort of where the radio industry has been which is, 598 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, you've obviously run many many radio stations. You've 599 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: been at the you know, at the tippy top and 600 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: the business. You know, about twenty years ago, radio unleash 601 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: what was known as HD rate, and this was supposed 602 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: to be this pioneering thing that was going to change 603 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: the industry. And it didn't really change anything other than 604 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: the FCC allowed and we do this with one O 605 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: seven five and nine three five to the fan use 606 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: HD stations as what they call translators to put to put. 607 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: If you have an HD frequency license, you can now 608 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: put a translator on them. And it has helped to 609 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: that extent, but it does not revolutionize the industry like 610 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: it it. 611 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: Puts the product on another signal. 612 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Right exactly. 613 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: But this was supposed to be the new thing, right like, 614 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna buy these HD radios, everyone's gonna love HD radio. 615 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna save the radio industry. 616 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: And what they came to the conclusion of a couple 617 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: of years into this thing was that they had this 618 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: technology for like ten years, and instead of just getting 619 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: it out there and saying, okay, let's all go make 620 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: money on it, the radio industry, like everything else, just 621 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: fought amongst themselves instead of getting at the forefront of anything. 622 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: And in the meantime, satellite radio became a thing. They 623 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: got people used to paying for radio content, and so 624 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: by the time the terrestrial radio industry unleashed HD radio, 625 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: people are. 626 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Like, no, I already got my way. 627 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: I do business right, like I'm okay with Sirius or 628 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: XM or whatever it is now. And the radio industry 629 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: never was able to capitalize the way they should have 630 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: been on HD radio because they had HD before a 631 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: satellite was in people's homes or in people's cars. 632 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: Same thing here with this. The music industry feels the 633 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: same way. 634 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: I remember twenty five years ago they were fighting over 635 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: illegal downloading, and what they should have done is, instead 636 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: of insisting you will pay fifteen dollars for this CD, 637 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: you will buy it the way we tell you to 638 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: buy it. They should have been getting people used to 639 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: paying some small amount for their favorite songs and getting 640 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: access to just the songs they want if you don't 641 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: want to buy the whole album. All the things they're 642 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: kind of doing now anyway Spotify exactly. And they could 643 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: have done that twenty five years ago and been so 644 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: far ahead of the curb. But they like their own 645 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: arrogance or hubris or whatever it was. They insisted people 646 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: do it their way, people like I had to do 647 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: it your way. 648 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing it my way the freeway. 649 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 4: So the music industry is saying, though at one time 650 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 4: twenty one percent of Cox's network was piracy related traffic, 651 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: they're using that as the basis for their argument a 652 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: quarter of their business was pirated music. But Cox is saying, 653 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: you know what, you can't punish us just for knowing 654 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: about piracy. 655 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, look, it comes back to this. If the train, 656 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: if you see the train coming down the tracks, right, 657 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: you have two options. You can stand in front of 658 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: the train and get run over, or you can say, hey, 659 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to get on board. And where this train's 660 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: going may not be exactly where I want to go 661 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: or do I want to get there, but it's better 662 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: than getting run over. And the radio industry, just like 663 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: the music industry, for some reason, chose to stand in 664 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: front of the tracks and get plowed over. Hey, can 665 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: we talk Can we talk about the behavior of Marlin 666 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: Stutsman when we come back. This was bizarre, right, You've 667 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: seen what I'm talking about. This was weird for a 668 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: sitting congressman to do this. 669 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: It is Kendall and Casey. 670 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: It's ninety three WYBC