1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: There may be some clear cut answer for this. If 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: you haven't actually really accomplished anything, should you get a 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: major reward. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: A major award? It's Fred Gilly. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: You're talking about the Nobel Peace Prize nomination, right, Donald Trump? Right? 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 4: Okay, this just to play out with me with this term, right. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying he didn't have some fine efforts 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: in the first term, but that was. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 4: A long time ago. 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: You'd think if he was gonna be nominated or win 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: for that, that they would have done that. Now, look, 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: these awards are all a joke anyway. It's whose line 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: is it anyway, where the game's made up and the 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: rules don't matter. Obama won one of these, and of 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: course he just bombed a bunch of people into oblivion. 16 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 4: But just just for. 17 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: The premise of this exercise, let's just pretend everything's on. 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: The up and up, shall we. 19 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so Trump has been president for eight months. 20 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: He did bomb ran into oblivion. Which I'm not saying 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: that's bad. I'm not just saying. 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: That's wrong something. 23 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just just reiterating facts as we know them. 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like uber peaceful, right. The Palestinians and Israelis. 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: While there was a peace deal negotiated, it does not 26 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: appear really people are adhering to the tenets of the deal. 27 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I just heard on the news well every 28 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: day pretty much about how they're still throwing various high 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: powered weaponry at each other. And last I checked, Russia 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: and the Ukraine still involved in a pretty serious international 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: conflict where people are dying. Thus the premise of having 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: the people come to the White House and Trump going 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: to Alaska at all? Right, Okay, so if you haven't 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: really accomplished peace, I mean, you have talked about peace, 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: you have advocated for peace, right, but yamn a coll 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: and you did do the bombing, which again not not 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: opposed to that, not saying that was wrong. 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: Are you? Are you? 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Should you win the major award four piece if you 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: really haven't accomplished any peace, So. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Even trying to get peace isn't worthy in. 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Your well, I don't know. 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean when they gave it to Obama, it's like 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the Sagamore of the Waalbash. Once upon a time, a 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: great meaningful award that was given to the best amongst 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: us that served our state. Now they just give it 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: to donors. And cronies and political people. Right, it doesn't 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: mean anything anymore. I feel the same way about the 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize. Probably once upon a time, really prestigious 50 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: people who advocated for great things. When they gave it 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: to Obama, I think the meaning went out the door. 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: So there have been multiple world leaders who have nominated Trump. 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: The Pakistani government nominated him in June, citing his role 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: in ending a four day conflict between Indian and Pakistan. 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: You have the Israeli Prime Minister An Yaho. He sent 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: a letter in July nominating Trump. In August, the Cambodian 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: Prime Minister credited Trump for advocating for a ceasefire between 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: Cambodian and Thai armies. You also had some other world 60 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: leaders nominating Trump for his August eighth Piece summit. And 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: again you mentioned the August fifteenth sum in Alaska with 62 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin and also many meetings that he's had with 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: Zelensky and other European leaders. So you have had some 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: world leaders who are recognizing him. I think there was 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: like forty monks who were nominating him. But now we 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: have somebody here in Indiana who's saying he's deserving real. 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Quick before we get to that, though, the problem is 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: he wants it so bad, like we laugh hysterically about 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: me and the Sagamore, like it's just a running joke 70 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: on our show. Look, I'm never getting that award. What 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: they've deluded it down to. There are many great people 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: I know who have them and who got them in 73 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: the olden days when they were still prestigious. Have a 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: dear family friend who got one. Those people totally deserved it. 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: They have so deluded that thing now it means nothing 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to the people who are getting them today. 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: We joke about me and the School Hall. 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Of Fame, right, also never getting into that, like we 79 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: joke about these things because it's funny. Trump really wants 80 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: this award, like when you're I mean, he basically has 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: been out there begging for the award, and when you 82 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: when you're telling people you and it's meaningless. 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: Look at the people they've given it to. Why do 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: you want this award so bad? 85 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Like it's in his mind it's still the nineteen eighties 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: and it's still this uber prestigious thing where they actually 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: gave it to people who were advocating for peace. 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: They don't do that anymore. It's just it's a political award. 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: Now is it a plaque or is it a I 90 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: don't know. 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: It's a great question. 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: Tell you how does it come? 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: Because if it's a plaque sort of thing, you know, 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: he would hang it in the oval office and anytime 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: anybody comes to visit he would point it out. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: Did you know, well exactly. 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: It sort of takes like, if you want the thing, 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: it almost feels like everything you're doing is for the thing, 99 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: rather than I'm just doing it because it's the right 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: thing to do. Oh and how nice of society to 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: bestow this honor upon me because I went out of 102 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: my way to do the right thing. It sort of 103 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: feels like he wants the award so bad that everything 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: he does is about whether or not he can get 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the award. 106 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got it. Here it is. 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: It's a gold medal maybe eighteen carrot recycled goldways one 108 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five. Uh. There's also an official Nobel diploma, 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: which is a handwritten Each diploma is unique. There's also 110 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: a cash award with it. 111 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: A cash award, like does it say what the number is? 112 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: The amount varies? 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: Yet, Now you've got my attention. 114 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: It's been around. 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: It carries the year by ear. 116 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: Is it like very between one and nine million dollars 117 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: or does it very between line? 118 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it varies between nine hundred thousand dollars to one 119 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: million dollars. 120 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: Oh so, I mean it's so it's pretty close, right. 121 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean you might feel a little slighted if you 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: were one at the year that you got nine hundred k. 123 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: But if someone handed you nine hundred k, you wouldn't 124 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: be like, well you dirty, rotten, no good, you know what, 125 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: although you would rather win it the year you get 126 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: the million dollars. 127 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, pick me on the good year. 128 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: Why does it change? Does it say? 129 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you're looking at now that would be fascinated to know, Hey, 130 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: we came up a little short that we passed around 131 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: the hat it. 132 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: Were you were almost worthy one million dollar Nobel price 133 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: almost all right? 134 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: So what's what's going on here with somebody here is 135 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: involved in this? 136 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 137 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: Oh boy. 138 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: Marlon Stutsman, oh No, Indiana's third congressional district representative. He's 139 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: advocating for president to win to receive the Peace Prize. 140 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, Marlin's a really sad story because, as many 141 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: people know, I worked for Marlin. 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: I worked for him. 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: I got to know him and work for him when 144 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: he ran for US Senate against Todd Young in twenty sixteen. 145 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: And I really admired Marlon Stutsman because in the Congress 146 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: he was a Massy before Massy was cool type of guy. 147 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: He was one of those guys. He voted all the 148 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: time against things that the party wanted. He was very quiet. 149 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: He was not boisterous or robust in his personality. But 150 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I got to know him, and he was very quietly 151 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: a guy who did hard things and went about his business. 152 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: And I never I mean, he should have. 153 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: He elevated himself up the latter he was in the 154 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: General Assembly and then became a congressman and blah blah blah. 155 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: But I never saw him as some guy who really 156 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be a politician. But clearly he has shown 157 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: because what happened to Marlon Stutsman he ran against Todd Young, 158 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: because Marlin had been such an independent voice in the House, 159 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Mitch mcconne was like, uh, ain't dealing with this guy, 160 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: and they put a gajillion dollars behind Todd Young to 161 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: win that primary. And one of the things I had 162 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: kind of admired about Marlin was he had just sort 163 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: of said. 164 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I lost doing the right thing. You know, 165 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 4: I'll go be a farmer again. 166 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: He has shown himself on multiple occasions, this time though, 167 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: as a guy who he must have really wanted it, 168 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: because he has turned into a proud card carring member 169 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: of butt Sniffers r US. 170 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: I mean he is he voted for all. 171 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: The old Marlin would have never voted for that spending 172 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: bill that got approve, the big Bullcrab bill, and not 173 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: only did he vote for it, he was a leading 174 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: advocate for it. The old Marlin would have never been 175 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: down with the rigging of the of the congressional districts. 176 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: He would have pointed out how unfair they were. He 177 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't have gone along, you know, with this sort 178 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: of thing. And that's so sad to see. I mean, 179 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: they get everybody, Casey, it's Hotel California. You can check 180 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: out any time you like, but you can never really 181 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: they get everybody. They get everybody, and they've even gotten Marlin. 182 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, man, that is so sad to see 183 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: somebody who I once really admired just totally he's it's 184 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: like he's back, and he's like, well, I'm not gonna 185 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: let I'm not gonna let this happen again where the 186 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: party gets me if I want to run for a 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: higher office. I mean, that's the only logical thing is 188 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: that he so covets the office, whether it's the current seat, 189 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: which by the way, he represents the Fort Wayne area 190 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: northeast corner of the state, that he so needs that 191 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: or wants that, and or political higher aspirations if he 192 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: runs again. That's just really disheartening. 193 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: So two days ago him along with a representative from Tennessee, 194 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: they sent a letter to the Norwegian Nobel Committee nominating 195 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: Trump for the award. 196 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: You send that by FedEx or what do you? What 197 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: do you do? 198 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Do you? 199 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: How do you get that to them? Hey, get on 200 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: a boat, buddy, send that over there. 201 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 202 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: They wrote that Trump's leadership helped deescalate globe conflicts and 203 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: foster peace peaceful resolutions. 204 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but why are you wasting your time doing this? 205 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 4: Like you're a congressman. 206 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: There's a gadjillion things going on in our country and 207 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: your focus is on getting some guy a meaningless award 208 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: that he's obsessed with. 209 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: I mean, again, it's another example. 210 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: The reason this matters, right, is it's another example of 211 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: how these guys in the Congress who are supposed to 212 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: be regardless of what party and power, and obviously there's 213 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: there's always a certain synergy. Parties have blueprints, they have plans, 214 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: but the ultimate job of why we send people to 215 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Congress is not to be a teammate or an opposition 216 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: to the president. 217 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: It's to be a check and balance. If there's areas 218 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: you agree, great, you vote together. If there's areas you 219 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: don't agree, you push back. 220 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: And all we see now in terms of our Congress 221 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: is just, hey, if it's Democrat, it's blanket opposition, and 222 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: if you're a Republican, it's blatant Aaron boy, you know behavior, 223 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: And like there's no there's no semblance of being able 224 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: to find what's good and what's bad. We've just so 225 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: dug ourselves into the teams on both sides, and that's 226 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: the way we govern now.