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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: The trio back together again as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: a big day for the Indianapolis Colts. We'll find out

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Speaker 2: who their initial fifty three man roster is going to

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Speaker 2: be about four pm today, at least all those cuts

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Speaker 2: are due by then. Along with James Boyd and Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 2: I'm jeff Rickard Mark dyketon studio a little bit warm

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Speaker 2: today and the clothes are already flying off for Kevin

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Speaker 2: Bowen today. I'm a little worried about what it's going

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Speaker 2: to be like at the very end of the show.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing this morning, you're hanging in there.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. Great to have you back. It was hot,

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Speaker 3: very hot yesterday, sauna like so yes, I put an

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Speaker 3: extra layer on this morning for the walk to the car,

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Speaker 3: but knew full well once we got in this studio

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Speaker 3: it was not needed whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: I liked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Hinkle Fieldhouse T shirt today. Haven't

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Speaker 2: seen that when that's a that's a cool one.

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Speaker 3: I like that one there for fad model in the.

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Speaker 2: Dolts Indiana Basketball Cathedral right there, James Boyd. It is

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Speaker 2: a very busy day for the Indianapolis Colts, but last

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Speaker 2: night they made a little bit of a roster edition

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Speaker 2: in the secondary, didn't they They did.

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Speaker 5: They made a tray for we would say his name right,

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Speaker 5: Mackay black Man, the cornerback from Minnesota, to give him

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Speaker 5: a six round pick for him black and miss all

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Speaker 5: of last year with the torn acl But he is

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Speaker 5: a third round pick from a couple of seasons ago.

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Speaker 5: So what does that mean for the rest of the

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Speaker 5: cornerback room is the bigger question After a move like that.

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Speaker 2: That would be interesting to see how the whole roster

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Speaker 2: comes together a little bit later on tonight. But suddenly,

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Speaker 2: where they had some injuries and things, what a week

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Speaker 2: and a half ago, all of a sudden, the Colts

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Speaker 2: are flushed with cornerbacks right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen it in the Chris

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Speaker 3: Powered era any position group get so much infusion in

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Speaker 3: an offseason. And it's not like they rebuilt the room.

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Speaker 3: The room still has the top guys back from last year, Kennymore,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Jones, if you want to call you Crystala Mond,

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Speaker 3: Samuel Walmack, those guys from last season. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean they have now there are some obviously, you know,

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Speaker 3: not all of this is crystal clear justin Wally for examples,

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Speaker 3: the third round pick the towards ACL Unfortunately, as James mentioned, mckail,

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Speaker 3: I really want to say Makai Becton, not Makai black exactly,

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Speaker 3: Makai Blackman, like James pointed out towards ACLT on the

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Speaker 3: first A training camp last year, so he missed all

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Speaker 3: of last season. But yeah, two former All pros and

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Speaker 3: Travarious Ward and Xaming Howard. So I cannot recall a

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Speaker 3: time really in the ballad era where I have seen

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Speaker 3: one position group just get so again infusion not like

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Speaker 3: retooling at all. There are a lot of names at corner.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens when

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Speaker 3: four o'clock holes rolls around and how exactly it plays out.

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Speaker 2: That brings up a question from our first text this morning.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean Juju Brentce is gonna get cut? James Boyd?

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Speaker 2: We just have to wait and see how it all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we just gotta wait and see how it all

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Speaker 4: plays out.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like, you know, this morning, we were

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Speaker 5: coming in, we weren't sure if our boss is gonna

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Speaker 5: be on the show, and then we showed up and

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Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, there he is fifty

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Speaker 5: three man roster, our four man rosters back together. A

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Speaker 5: bit of a joke there. We have a groove text

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Speaker 5: that we heard nothing from you, Jeff. Until I walked

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Speaker 5: in today, I was like, oh, he's here, So I don't.

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Speaker 2: Hear anything from me? It means everything's okay.

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Speaker 4: Right, That's usually never what that means. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: I'll take this right.

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Speaker 2: That's how I've always thought about Its good where you

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Speaker 2: at on that market. No news is good news.

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Speaker 5: Well, when the news is hey, are we planning for

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Speaker 5: the show tomorrow and we don't hear anything, it's like,

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Speaker 5: is he all right?

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Speaker 2: So I said, be back tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Confirmation is always good, right?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm joking. I'll start sending a proof of letter

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Speaker 2: from now on, you know, you know, a proof of

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Speaker 2: life tweets. You know I love them. I know we're

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Speaker 2: good with that.

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Speaker 4: Shout up to listen Helfie in front of cracker barrel.

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Speaker 2: That's what I watched up to listen to John.

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Speaker 3: Here he goes moving home this morning. The show is

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Speaker 3: the only thing that's going to make this bearable. Much appreciated,

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Speaker 3: good sirs, John. I can think of far worse late

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Speaker 3: August days to move home. So honestly, weatherwise, John, you

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Speaker 3: gotta go in for you, so we'll have it covered

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Speaker 3: here for the next three hours.

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Speaker 5: It's safe, safe travel. You guys got any tips. I

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Speaker 5: know you've done it before. I believe Kevin. I know, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: maybe you've done it before, moving homes, moving locations a

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't think it's a top ten worst day.

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Speaker 7: You can have higher movers. Higher movers, don't think you're

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Speaker 7: doing it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Just pay them.

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Speaker 3: Have you have you looked how much you're talking for ice?

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Speaker 3: I don't care at ibuprofen. Yeah, moving sucks.

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Speaker 7: You want to try to be lifting up like futons

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Speaker 7: and couches and all.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, this goes there.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure that goes there? I thought it went there.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you know, you pay with money or

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Speaker 4: you pay with your back. Yeah, okay, it's.

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Speaker 2: Usually how it works. I am now in the camp

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Speaker 2: of higher people, but I am also my eyebrows get

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Speaker 2: raised every time that that. I go, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: that's how much it costs these days.

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Speaker 4: Think of the back, Jeff, I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: Uh So anyway, we're we're waiting on cuts later on today.

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Speaker 2: Are there any any potential big surprises, like as you

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Speaker 2: four hours, Kevin, is there anything that that goes man

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Speaker 3: Well, Juju, I mean, would definitely be that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's a question that we have asked ourselves now here

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Speaker 3: to be cut. But you know, as James and I

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're there just yet. I kind of

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd probably go there. But I mean, outside

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Speaker 3: how does that play out at tight end? But I

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Speaker 2: How it all breaks out a little bit later on today,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be watching here's the other thing, James, we'll

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Speaker 2: be watching the cut names all over the league. And

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Speaker 2: just as we've learned over the years, just because you

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Speaker 2: afternoon doesn't mean it's what it's going to look like

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning at nine am.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, which is so crazy because we all break this

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Speaker 5: It's almost like you turn the test and then it's

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Speaker 5: like wait a second, with there's some different answers here.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see if the Colts make any waiver claims.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry misspoke there, but yeah, that is certainly a factor, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: as far as how things shake out, because what we

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Speaker 4: And honestly, it changes.

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Speaker 5: I would even venture to say a few times after

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Speaker 5: but still some of the bigger names. If a Jelani Woods,

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Speaker 4: Something to keep in mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're all getting ready for a final rosters.

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Speaker 2: We probably we really won't know everybody in the league's

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Speaker 2: the teams really start to prepare for Week one. And

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Speaker 2: and there was probably gonna be a little bit of movement.

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Speaker 2: We saw a big movement locally and we'll have more

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Speaker 2: details coming up in the in the update in the

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Speaker 2: moment here, but Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals finally got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, again this fell in the category

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Speaker 3: of continue to be asked about it. Hey, you should

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Speaker 3: the Colts be involved? You're frozen right now. It was

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Speaker 3: a franchise now last.

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Speaker 5: Year's there's my pushback though, if you were saying you

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Speaker 5: got to win this year, why don't just go get them?

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Speaker 3: Well that's where if I'm carly ersee Gordon, i am.

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Speaker 4: If you believe in yourself this much.

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Speaker 5: You believe in Dane Jones, Go get a God's gonna

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Speaker 5: help you make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's level levels of belief and fair enough,

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Speaker 3: and there are not all the chips being pushed into

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Speaker 3: the middle of the table. Six round pick for Makai Blackman,

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Speaker 3: I guess, but you know, anything much higher than that

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin, you know, we saw that as

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Speaker 3: well yesterday. So it seems like Michael Parsons is the

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Speaker 2: That's what you're saying, the Colts to trade for. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it feels like there's genuine animosity now between Jerah and Micah.

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Speaker 2: At this point in time, it just feels like they

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Speaker 2: are really angry with each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, Like I said, I watched Land Man.

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Speaker 5: There's an appearance from Jerry Jones in there, and he

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Speaker 5: was an much nicer person. I'm thinking that show, and

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Speaker 5: he's coming off right now as the owner.

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Speaker 1: But I honestly, Jack waiting today.

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Speaker 4: Great job.

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Speaker 5: Mar Bonus is looking at the contracts and reading through

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Speaker 5: some of this stuff. A few years ago when JT

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Speaker 5: was going through is US with Jim Irs. It is

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Speaker 5: hard for a player to gain any leverage, and obviously

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Speaker 5: for an owner, you probably want to owner to act better,

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Speaker 5: but he still has full control over his contract and

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Speaker 5: his future.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm about the rest of you guys. But this this

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Speaker 2: Cowboys documentary, that's all right now. I can't think of

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Speaker 2: anything I'm less interested than finding out more about Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones and the Dallas capis I just don't care about

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Speaker 2: act together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to a couple of people and

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Speaker 3: they spoke highly of it.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever known anything James on this show to

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Speaker 2: Good morning, everyone, Welcome into Tuesday cutdown day in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. Everybody has to get down to fifty

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Speaker 4: So you think Xavion Howard is third cornerback.

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Speaker 5: Just keep an eye on Juju Brentant. I think we

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Speaker 5: But hey, you bring another cornerback in, that's always going

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Speaker 2: Right, We'll turn to the WNBA back at the field

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Speaker 2: House tonight for the Seattle Storm taking on the Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see that. What would you call that?

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Speaker 2: your way at six forty five. Other news in National

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Speaker 2: footballleagu yesterday, just down the road, Troy Hendrickson and the

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Speaker 2: He'll be making thirty million dollars a year this year.

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Speaker 2: That's an extra fourteen million from what he was slated

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Speaker 3: Deadlines spur action and you're seeing that Terry McLaurin yesterday

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Speaker 5: I will say I saw people saying that's the trade

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, yesterday Mark's Cubs were off, but the

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Speaker 3: When you've lost me four of five. I don't know

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Speaker 3: very rare, very rare. Where I tell Mark Dyke, tend to,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know he loves Ellie.

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Speaker 3: Well it was, uh, it was fun while it lasted.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals beat the Pirates seven to six. The White Sox

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Speaker 2: This guy, Mark you, fellow baseball, He's just doing historical

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Speaker 7: catcher just being squatted down for hours at a time,

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Speaker 7: no thank you, and then hitting dinger after dinger after that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's doing incredible for his stats are episode.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at it right now.

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Speaker 5: One hundred and twenty hits, one hundred and seven RBIs.

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Speaker 2: It's in balling right now. The Indianapolis Indians off yesterday.

445
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Speaker 2: They'll be at home Victory Field tonight taking on the

446
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bisons at six thirty five. Keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: that one. We get ready for college football later on

448
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Speaker 2: this week, Kevin. I know you're already pacing the floors

449
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Speaker 2: ready for Notre Dames opening salvo at Miami coming up

450
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Speaker 2: on the thirty first, looking forward to that, and I

451
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Speaker 2: know I can't bleep and wait, No, you're ready to go.

452
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Speaker 2: Butler is going to play at Northern Iowa. Of course,

453
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Speaker 2: Purdue hosting ball State. Indiana starts their preseason schedule with

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Speaker 2: Old Dominion, and then that's what's happening in college football

455
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Speaker 2: around here, looking forward to it. Anything else you guys

456
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Speaker 2: want to throw.

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Speaker 3: In, Yeah, we went to this yesterday, James. But the

458
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Speaker 3: Pacers did indeed bump up Jim Boyl in to the

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Speaker 3: front of the bench there with that staff, I guess addition,

460
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Speaker 3: and Johnny Carpenter was the new name there. He's got

461
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Speaker 3: some history at UVA, of course with Carlisle, plenty of

462
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Speaker 3: ties there and also ties with Rick I think a

463
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Speaker 3: year at Dallas and with the Pacers in a training

464
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Speaker 3: camp a few years ago. But spent a lot of

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Speaker 3: time with Tony Bennett at UVA, former manager, which we've

466
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Speaker 3: seen that route.

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Speaker 4: I believe you might have coached Jay Huff as well.

468
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Speaker 3: Yes, some background there with Jay Huff, so he will

469
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Speaker 3: be behind the bench. And then Jim Boylan, who of

470
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Speaker 3: course has coached in the NBA, he will be up

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Speaker 3: there with Jenny Bossick and Lloyd Pierce. So with Mike

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Speaker 3: Winer's news that happened on Friday, that will be the

473
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Speaker 3: assistant route for Rick Carlisle here coming up this season.

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Speaker 2: And looking forward already to a Pacers I know that

475
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Speaker 2: the that the hopes are not high given everything that happened,

476
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Speaker 2: and Tyree s being out and Miles being gone. I

477
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Speaker 2: still think this is a really fun group to watch

478
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Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see him overperform people's expectations.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of become the Tame Jeff over the last

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Speaker 5: few years for this team. So if you're looking at

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Speaker 5: a team in the market right now to believe.

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Speaker 2: In, it's that one. All right, take quick time out.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about NFL cutdown Day and the Colts

484
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Speaker 2: and some of the things that they may have ahead

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Speaker 2: of them. Also, I haven't had a chance to talk

486
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Speaker 2: to you about a terrific piece you wrote about Anthony

487
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Speaker 2: Richardson and the Colts and how it all went sideways.

488
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Speaker 2: We'll do that as we continue next. It's ninety three

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Speaker 2: to five and one on seven five except Britney Spears.

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Speaker 4: Hell, yeah it is. Mark said that like it's a

491
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Speaker 4: national anthem, like everyone should know. Yes it is. Teenage

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Speaker 4: Mark Dyke didn't love Britain.

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Speaker 3: Music video again.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, best video of all time. She was

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Speaker 4: the peak of her game. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A long time ago. A buddy of mine, he was

497
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Speaker 2: a salesperson. I was supposed to host a suite at

498
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Speaker 2: a Britney Spears concert and he got sick, and so

499
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Speaker 2: I had to go fill in. I've never felt more.

500
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Speaker 2: I was surrounded by like twelve year old girls around

501
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Speaker 2: the entire place. I was just like, oh my god,

502
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Speaker 2: I just want to go home and get out of here.

503
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Speaker 2: I just stayed for the show, but I just remember thinking,

504
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Speaker 2: this is the one place on planet Earth I do

505
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Speaker 2: not belong right now.

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Speaker 5: So speak for yourself, banger after banger, right, Yeah, I

507
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Speaker 5: don't mind Britney Spears.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, it was just not my scene,

509
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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. In the meantime, the scene over

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Speaker 2: at West fifty sixth will be busy a little bit

511
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Speaker 2: later on this afternoon. It's always tough, I know, for

512
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Speaker 2: coaches and staff. You bring in a bunch of guys

513
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Speaker 2: who've put out their blood, sweat and tears for the

514
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Speaker 2: last months, them all the way back to all the workouts,

515
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Speaker 2: the OTAs and things like that. I know it's never easy.

516
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Speaker 2: Those conversations are probably never fun, and you know, you

517
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Speaker 2: try hopefully the a few of these guys might catch

518
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Speaker 2: on somewhere else before it's all said and done. But

519
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Speaker 2: for a lot of guys, it's tough day. A dream

520
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Speaker 2: can go to die today, and that's never fun.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I mean you're gonna cut what eleven hundred

522
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Speaker 3: north of that around the NFL obviously, what sixteen is

523
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Speaker 3: a sixteen or seventeen? I forget practice squad spots. That

524
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Speaker 3: is a big, big number. And as we've talked about

525
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Speaker 3: for the last week, you can make damn good money

526
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Speaker 3: on the old practice squad. So that is definitely something

527
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Speaker 3: in the NFL has tried to increase really ever since

528
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Speaker 3: the COVID season, and they've maintained that here. But yeah, definitely,

529
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Speaker 3: you know, you see it played out on hard knocks

530
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Speaker 3: a whole lot. Yeah. Never easy to get the call.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of these guys are telling their

532
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Speaker 3: families you don't call me whatsoever today, I will call

533
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Speaker 3: you because I do not want that call. And unfortunately

534
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Speaker 3: for guys fifty two fifty three, you might celebrate a

535
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Speaker 3: little bit tonight and then bam, all of a sudden,

536
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Speaker 3: the waiverclaim goes through tomorrow by noon and you're off

537
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Speaker 3: the roster. So that's always something that there is some

538
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Speaker 3: tinkering with the back end of that roster here for

539
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Speaker 3: the next handful of days.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, everyone, Welcome into the fan.

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Speaker 1: Morning.

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Speaker 6: Show.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us on the way to work

544
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Speaker 2: or getting ready for the day, whatever it happens to be,

545
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Speaker 2: we appreciate you being here along with James Boyd, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 2: I'm jeff Rickard, Mark Diyton, and yeah it is cut

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Speaker 2: down today around around the NFL. But late last night

548
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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, the Colts did bolster again

549
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Speaker 2: their cornerback room. They will certainly James have a lot

550
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Speaker 2: to choose from before it's all sudden done. Just in

551
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Speaker 2: terms of week to week, who's going to be suiting

552
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Speaker 2: up for these guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Kevin laid it out earlier in the

554
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Speaker 5: show already. But the top three cornerbacks up here to

555
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Speaker 5: Beach Various Ward and Kenny Moore, which are obvious picks

556
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Speaker 5: on those two out of the three, and the third

557
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Speaker 5: one being Xavin Howard, the former two time All Pro,

558
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Speaker 5: but he hasn't playsin twenty twenty three. However, he's getting

559
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Speaker 5: first team reps basically his first day here. So those

560
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Speaker 5: are the top three. And then they traded for Makay

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Speaker 5: Blackman of the Minnesota Vikings, a twenty twenty three to

562
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Speaker 5: third round pick, missed all of last year due to

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Speaker 5: a torn acl that he suffered, I believe throughout the

564
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Speaker 5: off season, and so he's got something to prove. The

565
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Speaker 5: Colts Philly wanted to take a gamble on him, and

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Speaker 5: looking at his background, Kevin, I wonder if he slots

567
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Speaker 5: in more as like a backup slot guy behind Kenny Moore,

568
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Speaker 5: in like that nickel position, which in English terms for

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Speaker 5: those listening, basically means like the cornerback who isn't on

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Speaker 5: the outside, the shorter cornerback. You know, Kenny Moore is

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Speaker 5: more like the tweeter cornerback. And so could he be

572
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Speaker 5: a backup to Kenny Moore? Or he has some experience

573
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Speaker 5: on the outside, could he challenge for an outside spot.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of questions to be had and hopefully

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Speaker 5: we get some answers here in a few hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I saw the trade, I thought, yes, I

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Speaker 3: would agree with you, James. That's that was my first inkling.

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Speaker 3: And then I was curious too, how much special teams

579
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Speaker 3: background does he have? And he really doesn't have any

580
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. I think he played two special team

581
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Speaker 3: snaps his entire rookie year, and given his height five

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Speaker 3: to eleven, Yeah, I thought a little bit more of

583
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Speaker 3: slot background, but it actually sounds like he is more

584
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Speaker 3: of an outside corner. And now we'll see maybe the Colts

585
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Speaker 3: think he can play inside a little bit. Nothing like

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Speaker 3: a nice little Chris Baward Ryan Grigson trade that we

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Speaker 3: got last night there. But yeah, I mean, I'll go

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Speaker 3: back to kind of what I said to lead off

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Speaker 3: the show. I cannot recall a position group in the

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Speaker 3: history of Chris Boward's nine years as GM of the

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Speaker 3: Colts that has gotten this much attention in one offseason.

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Speaker 3: And again, it's not like you lost anybody of note

593
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Speaker 3: from last year. You bring back your top four snap

594
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Speaker 3: guys from last season, so former All Pro and Saveria's Ward,

595
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Speaker 3: former All Pro and Xavion Howard again, the third round

596
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Speaker 3: pick of Justin Wally unfortunately towards ACL and now the

597
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Speaker 3: third round pick in Makai Blackman, who you trade a

598
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Speaker 3: sixth rounder four. I mean, that is a lot of

599
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Speaker 3: new investment, new resources into a cornerback room. So some

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Speaker 3: more Gus Bradley is raising his hand in the back

601
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Speaker 3: of the room saying, did you forget about me?

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Speaker 5: I was the GM, he never got this much. I

603
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Speaker 5: would criticize them, but yes, I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, it's unbelievable how much. And again I say all

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Speaker 3: of this just to say, man, Louis Arumo, he's got

606
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Speaker 3: a loud voice in this personnel, like Xavion Howard is

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Colts might trot out two starters in

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Speaker 3: week one purely because Louis Arumo believes they should be

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Speaker 3: here Xavion Howard and Joe Bachi like that is I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I'm fine with that. Let me be clear that right,

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Speaker 3: and I think you should cater to the coordinator that

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Speaker 3: you have, certainly there, but the first ye're here.

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Speaker 4: Man, they are certainly bringing out some bucks in.

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Speaker 3: But if you're going to take a one to eighty systematically,

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Speaker 3: then you know, And so I guess I bring all

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Speaker 3: that up to say, what does that mean for the

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Speaker 3: in house guys that weren't drafted by him? What does

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Speaker 3: that mean for the in house players that did not

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Speaker 3: join this team in the last handful of months, know,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carlis and Juju Brents and you know quit he

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Speaker 3: pay up front. And again, not all these guys are

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Speaker 3: in jeopardy of missing the team or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But just as you start the roles, yeah, as you

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Speaker 3: start to yes, define roles you know, years go on.

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Speaker 3: Assuming that this regime sticks together, those will all be

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Speaker 3: things to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: The Other thing, some good news. We've seen Josh Downs

628
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Speaker 2: and Nick Cross moving pretty well at practice, and I

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Speaker 2: think maybe does that indicate they're gonna be ready to

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Speaker 2: go week one?

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Speaker 4: We have not seen them moving at practice.

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Speaker 2: I saw a report where they were they were running.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Shane Stichen was saying that there. He's hopeful they'll

634
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Speaker 5: be back and getting out back in action peer pretty soon.

635
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Speaker 5: So I'll be the last time we were at practice.

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Speaker 5: Kevin correct me if I'm wrong. We hadn't seen them

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Speaker 5: on the action I have not the same way. It

638
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 5: sounds like that's the game. But yeah, just to clarify there,

639
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 5: It is a positive sign there, Jeff, because you want

640
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Speaker 5: to get those guys healthy for your season opener, mainly

641
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Speaker 5: because Josh Downs led your team and catch last year

642
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 5: and Nick Cross tire for the team high interceptions last year.

643
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Speaker 5: So two big key pieces and also some young players

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Speaker 5: you're hoping to see another step forward from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we keep an eye on West fifty sixth

646
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Speaker 2: all day long to see if names start trickling out

647
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Speaker 2: throughout the days. Does happen in some places, but the

648
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Speaker 2: culture usually pretty good about keeping things close to their vest.

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Speaker 2: They don't leak a lot.

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Speaker 3: Over there, do they, Kevin, No, I mean they've Yeah,

651
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Speaker 3: they're they're pretty steel trappy when it comes to you know,

652
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Speaker 3: anything along that along those lines, and typically they've operated

653
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Speaker 3: in a team that announces these roster cuts about as

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Speaker 3: late as anybody around the league. And we've seen this

655
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Speaker 3: already with I don't know, James, it seems like a

656
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: good amount of teams have already announced whatever, five, ten,

657
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: fifteen cuts, like they've got ahead of a little bit

658
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 3: of this that Colts have not announced anything from a

659
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Speaker 3: you know, outright cut.

660
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say so. Shout out to Joel A.

661
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 5: Erickson though Indie Starr, this is his wheelhouse among other things.

662
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to diminish him to just that, but

663
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 5: he is usually all over these signings, whether it's right

664
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Speaker 5: after the draft and they're getting all he's undrafted guys

665
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: to right now announcing a few of those. So if

666
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: you do want to keep up with what's going on

667
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: and kind of have like that minute by minute update,

668
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: he's somebody that's good to follow on social media and

669
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Speaker 5: also to subscribe and watch his work read his work

670
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: over at Indy Starr dot com.

671
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: You get nothing official from the team, is no, but

672
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying trust yeah, he's a definitely is always

673
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: on it.

674
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Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on that. Of course. On over

675
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: the weekend, the Colts won the Battle of the second

676
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: and third teamers over in Cincinnati. Be down anybody there

677
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: that maybe made their way on to the fifty three

678
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: man roster or at least solidified themselves as a practice

679
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Speaker 2: squad player.

680
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Speaker 3: You know, one debate we had yesterday which I think

681
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: we got a little clarity on James was wide receiver.

682
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: You saw in that game Lacwan Treadwell and coleman Owen,

683
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: two very different backgrounds, both were outstanding in that game.

684
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Speaker 3: And I think both their guys the Colts really like.

685
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: And so a question that I did have is I

686
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: didn't think wide receiver had much debate. I think it

687
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: was a pretty clear six throughout the offseas Michael Pittman Jr.

688
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: Alec Pearce, Josh downs, Ady Mitchell, and then your other two.

689
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: I look at Anthony Gould and Doolan, those are your

690
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: kick returners. But we did see Ashton Dolan get hurt

691
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: in practice last week. Shane Styke can clarified yesterday just

692
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: a concussion for Dolan, so something where they expect him

693
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: to be back very soon. Because my thought was, all right,

694
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Speaker 3: if Doulan has more of a serious injury. Do you

695
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: then get into debate of Treadwell versus Owen, which I

696
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: mean that is an undrafted free agent and Owen versus

697
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: tread Well, a former first round pick who's thirty years old.

698
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: They're they're different whiteouts. Owen more of a slot, Treadwell

699
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: more of an outside guy. Treadwill actually has played a

700
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: decent amount of special teams in his NFL career. But

701
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: right now I would look at both of those guys

702
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: as practice squad players. You know, there was a little

703
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: bit of me that thought, you know, could Owen compete

704
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: with Anthony Gould, But I don't think I'm quite there

705
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: just yet. From a punt red turn kick return backup

706
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 3: slot to Josh Downs standpoint.

707
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know it was the battle of the

708
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: second and third teamers, but man, it was fun to

709
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: watch the Colts just rack up some points on somebody

710
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: at some point, wasn't it.

711
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were looking up.

712
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: Because to give you all some context, my last story

713
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 5: every preseason is that fifty three man roster projection at

714
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 5: the buzzer of the game. And so yes, I am

715
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: watching the game, but not as intently as I usually am.

716
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: So every time I would see the horn go off

717
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: or I would see them kind of getting in the

718
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 5: red zone, I'm like, man, these guys are putting on

719
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 5: some points.

720
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Speaker 4: And so there was certainly good vibes in that locker

721
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: room afterwards.

722
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: I think you heard from Ry Leonard how much it

723
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: meant to him to throw his first touchdown pass in

724
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Speaker 5: the NFL.

725
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: Had some haters of social media telling me didn't count.

726
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: Yes, it does count because I saw it with my

727
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 5: own eyes, and so that was a cool moment for

728
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 5: him if the game ball gave that touchdown ball rather

729
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: to his father for his birthday, which just happened to

730
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Speaker 5: be Saturday's game. So it was cool, and I enjoyed

731
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 5: that locker room afterwards. It's always good after win. And

732
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Speaker 5: then one quick shout out Dane Scott been through a

733
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Speaker 5: lot of injury stuff. You know, I had missed a

734
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 5: year because when Achilles missed another because when a cl

735
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: comes back he's healthy, he's a lot to make the

736
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: roster for me, Kevin initially, and he gets a pick

737
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: six against the Cystanti Bengals and kind of has a

738
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: triumphant return moment to the league.

739
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for me, I you know, I look at

740
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Scott as potentially that third safety, and you know, a

741
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna play a key special teams role for you.

742
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: Can I throw a hypothetic value? Of course, better chance

743
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is traded today or Kurt Signetti's Hoosiers make

744
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: the final four of the college football playoffs.

745
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: A better chance than Anthony Richardson has traded today.

746
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm rolling with AYU you think so? Yeah, in this situation, yeah,

747
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: I would go hooing it up.

748
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 10: I don't.

749
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I you.

750
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: I did see a shirt four by the way, when

751
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I was walking flying Bison baby.

752
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: I did see a shirt when I was walking through

753
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: the airport actually get my rental car to go to Cincinnati,

754
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: and the woman had on a Who's your Mama's shirt?

755
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty funny. I hadn't seen that before.

756
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: Look.

757
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: I like Kurt Signette. I like what he's doing in Indiana.

758
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: I like what they're going. I don't like their preseason schedule.

759
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna hurt them in a world

760
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: where there are a lot of big time preseason football

761
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: games that really bolster other people's resumes.

762
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: Do y'all know how much Chris Baller loves Anthony Riffidson.

763
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: He ain't going nowhere. Okay, they love him.

764
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: I think he loved I loved the question, But I

765
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: think there's a small chance of either thing.

766
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 7: I'll take the Hoosiers just because you have a longer

767
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 7: timeline to be wrong. You can be like, I can

768
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 7: wait till December and I'll be wrong.

769
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 6: Now.

770
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: Well, listen to twenty four hours today, key wrong. Listen

771
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: to Kurt Signette.

772
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: You talk about old domeinion yesterday, you would have thought

773
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: they got the seventy two Dolphins here in a week one.

774
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Well Mark, you were saying that the spread was closer

775
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: in that game than you expected me to be.

776
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: What was it, Kevin wore we say twenty two or

777
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Speaker 3: twenty three, and I don't.

778
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Speaker 7: I don't think it was. I thought it would be

779
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 7: bigger than that. Yeah, I would, I could be said

780
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 7: about a lot. I would agree.

781
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they used that game to get ready

782
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: for Kennesaw State.

783
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: It's been said to me quite a few times.

784
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Speaker 2: And I will I will continue to pound on that.

785
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: Schedules just drive me nuts again. Wanted to play a

786
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: couple of cupcakes early, but throw somebody in there before conference.

787
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: Oh you're not getting it for the next five years.

788
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: I know.

789
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: See that future is still I know.

790
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: I know.

791
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: The other thing I want to talk about I read

792
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: it the other day. I thought it was a fantastic

793
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: piece that you wrote about everybody being to blame for

794
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: where Anthony Richardson sits at this moment in time. Certainly

795
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: he takes the majority of the blame for all the

796
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: things that we've documented and talked about, But every step

797
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: of the way, the general manager, the coach, the quarterback

798
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: coach seemed to have stepped left when they needed to

799
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: go right in this situation.

800
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like the only person we have on

801
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: records saying that they are to blame at least to

802
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: some degree is Chris Ballard. He is on the record saying, yeah,

803
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: we shouldn't have started him, we shouldn't have played him. Now,

804
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 5: if you want to put that out there, that's your business.

805
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: Kept it to yourself. That's also your business. But at

806
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: least he has fallen on the sword a bit. I

807
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 5: think with Say Steichen and Cam Turner to a degree

808
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: as well, I have not really answered for why the

809
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: development process hasn't gone the way it's supposed to and

810
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: practice the question asked Jim Bob Cooter as well. But

811
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: for Shane I had to kind of hammer it a

812
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: couple times, like what could you have done?

813
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 10: Though?

814
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 5: It took three questions to get a non answer, and honestly,

815
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: if I read it out loud on air like I

816
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: did last week, it wouldn't change anything. None of it

817
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: really made sense to me. And then for Cam Turner,

818
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: you have him saying, well, you know, we did everything

819
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 5: we could. I did everything that I could. Anthony's worked hard.

820
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: The consistency just isn't there. But I'm like, you're supposed

821
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 5: to be the developmental guy. You're supposed to work with

822
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 5: this guy day to day. Why hasn't there been enough

823
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 5: progress going into his third year. I'm not saying it's

824
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: all your fault or all his, but to again kind

825
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: of just push it all back onto Anthony I think

826
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: is a bit disingenuous.

827
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we placed some audio here in a little bit.

828
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: I know, we got Jake Arthur talk some roster cuts

829
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: coming up. At eight o'clock, we'll begin our college football tour,

830
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: if you will, around the state. We'll start in Bloomington

831
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: with Zach Osterman in the nine o'clock hour as IU

832
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: gets ready for week one here in the second season

833
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: of Kurt Signetty. But you know, Shane yesterday asked about

834
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. You know, has there been any doubts from

835
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: Anthony about his standing within the franchise? And you're judging

836
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: like social media reaction is probably a dangerous game to play, James.

837
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I can't recall and obviously

838
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: there has been iterations of this, but it's been a while.

839
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: And why I bring this up. I can't recall the

840
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: last time the Colts fan base was this fed up

841
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: with the with their head coach.

842
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah to the except fed up, you think fed up, pissed,

843
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: I I don't know, irritated, it's fed up, right.

844
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, James, go ahead and push back

846
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: or agree or whatever.

847
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: But it's social media.

848
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: I will say that, Like I haven't been out on

849
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: the streets to you, but it's a big throng.

850
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even if talking to people, you know whatever

851
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: on the streets are in public, I think people are

852
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: generally fed up with and maybe it is the whole

853
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: overarching thing of like, well, it's the fact that Ballard's

854
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: got a ninth year, and it's the fact that Anthony

855
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: Richardson apparently isn't going to work out. You know, maybe

856
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: it's all of it, and now Shane just happens to

857
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: be spokesperson, But I just think there is a general

858
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: you know, you have used the phrase word salad a lot,

859
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: and when Shane does speak, oftentimes you walk away from

860
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: it being like there was absolutely nothing of con and

861
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: I think it's largely intentional. Yeah, it clears, and I

862
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: think when you couple that with questionable play on the field,

863
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: it's a recipe for the fan base to turn on

864
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: you in a hurry. And sure, when he can cure

865
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: a lot of it, but I think that's where you're

866
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 3: at here on August twenty six.

867
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: He's a football robot.

868
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 7: So when he doesn't give any answers and it's all

869
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 7: just like emotionless, like football jargon, you're not going to

870
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 7: gain any sort of sympathy from the fan base they're

871
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 7: gonna be like, okay, enough, like this is just nothing.

872
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Speaker 7: This is you're giving us nothing. You're not showing us

873
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 7: you're a human being. You're just reciting football jargon day

874
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Speaker 7: in and day out, and we're sick of it.

875
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Speaker 5: And to Mark's point, I think said, by the way, yeah,

876
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Speaker 5: that's a great point. Honestly, Mark is probably dealt with

877
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: that a lot of that with some of those former

878
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Speaker 5: bearss catch last.

879
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Speaker 2: Season Mark, Mark is an expert in that. Yeah, I

880
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Speaker 2: was gonna.

881
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: Say last year, you know in Chicago was certainly an

882
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: example of that. And then to kind of piggyback off

883
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Speaker 5: that Mark, I mean off that point from Mark is

884
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Speaker 5: or Mark from Mark, but you're saying nothing and haven't

885
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: produced anything, so it's nothing for nothing. As we said

886
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: throughout the break, I think I was talking to Mark.

887
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 5: If Bill Belichick says whatever he says for every many years,

888
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: people just kind of live with it because he wanted

889
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 5: such a high rate, it didn't matter. When you don't win,

890
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: and you also don't have an answer for why you

891
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 5: haven't worked out. That is frustrating for a fan base,

892
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 5: and I think it kind of gas lights them to

893
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: to a certain degree because It's like where you're telling

894
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: us stuff that we clearly can see isn't the case.

895
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: And I think the biggest sources of frustration if I

896
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Speaker 5: had to guess, and this isn't me like putting out

897
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Speaker 5: some official poll, but just hearing some of the complaints

898
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: of my mentions on my story even my own personal belief,

899
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Speaker 5: is that there is no plan beyond this season. The

900
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Speaker 5: plan is Daniel Jones, but the plan that you told

901
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Speaker 5: us and you sold us on was Anthony Richardson, And

902
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: like when we are asking questions about what's next for him,

903
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 5: there is no plan. If there was a plan in

904
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Speaker 5: that answer that he gave you yesterday, Kevin, I would

905
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: like to hear it, because it wasn't in that whatever

906
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 5: many words that was seventy five words he gave that

907
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 5: was just yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to answer something.

908
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: Let's get off the zoom call. But that, to me

909
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 5: is the money question going into tomorrow's press conference with

910
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: Chris Ballard is what is the plan? And then secondly,

911
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: why should anyone believe it because the plans you all

912
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: have had.

913
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Speaker 4: Have not worked out.

914
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on all of that and

915
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: it'll bmhzy how it does play out. But you know what,

916
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: you win those first two games and then go and

917
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Speaker 2: get a division of game against Jacksonville I'm sorry, against

918
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: the Titans in Week three, and people forget all the

919
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: things we're talking about today. You know how that works.

920
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But again, like I just said, if you say

921
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: nothing and you win, hey, more power to you. But

922
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: you can't be the Colds, who are in my opinion,

923
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 5: no longer not even an opinion, it's a fact. They're

924
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: no longer the perennial playoff team contender upper quartile. The

925
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: Colts that I kind of grew up with as a kid,

926
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Speaker 5: this team that I've known throughout most of my adulthood

927
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: now as a twenty nine year old, has been bad. Like,

928
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 5: they have not been a good team. They've been irrelevant.

929
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Speaker 5: They've been largely irrelevant. And so you can't sit up

930
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Speaker 5: there and have these kind of you know, wordless wordy

931
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Speaker 5: answers and have not won anything.

932
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Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing.

933
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Speaker 3: And again I think it is largely intentional by Shane Staking.

934
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Speaker 3: I think he has always walked into a media climate

935
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Speaker 3: not wanting to be super transparent. James think back to

936
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Speaker 3: last year. It took him a while to finally offer

937
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Speaker 3: transparency on Anthony Richardson's benching. Remember it took about two

938
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Speaker 3: weeks before he finally.

939
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Speaker 5: Got I mean to tell me when they put him

940
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Speaker 5: back in the lineup, and then he said, oh, by

941
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: the way, yeah, here's the process.

942
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that long statement yeah I mean. And

943
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Speaker 3: then later in the year and Steve I think reported

944
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Speaker 3: on this. The Richardson camp was really disappointed in the

945
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Speaker 3: lack of clarity on Richardson's back injury. You know, Shane

946
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Speaker 3: talked about the back injury like, you know, me hurting

947
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Speaker 3: my back tripping over with my kids toys, whereas Anthony's like, yeah,

948
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: I kind of crawled to the door the other day.

949
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: Like again, it's just a I think it's largely intentional.

950
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: I think it's rooted in, as crazy as it sounds,

951
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: of some people competitive advantage disadvantages, which again I know

952
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: that that isn't something that totally applies to the Richardson situation,

953
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: but I do think that's where it largely comes from here,

954
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: and when you aren't winning and you have had inconsistencies

955
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: like you've had, it's gonna boil over. But right now,

956
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: I just I can't recall the last time there's been

957
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: this much pent up frustration and again, fed up apathy,

958
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: pissed off everyone to describe it, I think all that

959
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: applies right now to where the fan base is at.

960
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I always say this too, All

961
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: that stuff from the outside, we're right to talk about

962
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: because it's what we see, it's what we observe, it's

963
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: what people say. Really at the end of the day,

964
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: it's what's going on between the cults and their leadership

965
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: group and Anthony Richardson and what is being communicated privately

966
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: as to what we're thinking, how are you feeling those

967
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: kinds of things. We're not privy to that, but based

968
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: on what we see from the outside, it sure looks

969
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: like it's topsy turvy up and down and anything can

970
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: change at any moment.

971
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Again, if we ask you what is the plan

972
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 5: for the guy you drafted fourth overall two years ago,

973
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: and you can't give an answer, at least publicly, at

974
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: least a glimpse of an answer that is concerning to me,

975
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: all right, Like.

976
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: This this tweet here, mik lolol, I'm actually never been

977
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: more tired of hearing someone speak more than I am

978
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: of Shane like that general thought. I bet I got

979
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: one hundred of those yesterday in regards to that specific video.

980
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: So that's just the reality I think of where a

981
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: lot of Colts fans are at right now.

982
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Coming up in a minute, Jake Arthur

983
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: from Lucked on coltsside dot com get his thoughts on

984
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: the Colts getting ready to make some cuts a little

985
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: bit later on today, the state of the franchise in general.

986
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: We'll do it next and we'll start to take a

987
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: look at some of your texts throughout the course of

988
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: the morning as well. They're coming in fast and furious

989
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: at two three, nine, ten seventy, it's all straight ahead

990
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: at ninety three five what I was seven five? Good

991
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: morning and thank you for joining us wherever you may be.

992
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: If you're up and dance and the meal the music

993
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Speaker 2: is moving you like James Boyd love to see it.

994
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a little distarby, I believe.

995
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 5: From Rihanna and Rihanna Yes, yeah, I feel like I

996
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 5: was at a club or rave or something.

997
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: I like that. Little we're talking the morning. Yeah, uh,

998
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: we got a lot going on today. We'll be talking

999
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: about the Colts all morning long as they get ready

1000
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: for cutdown day cuts due to the NFL by four

1001
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: pm this afternoon. We've been talking about that for the

1002
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: last hour or so. Now we are joined by Jake Arthur,

1003
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: who covers the Colts at SI dot com. Also you

1004
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: can hear him un Lockdown Colts just about anywhere you

1005
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: can download your podcasts, and he is live with us

1006
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: right now on the Paylosslookers Hotline.

1007
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: Good morning, Jake.

1008
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: There's a you just gonna be looking and reloading the

1009
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: Internet all day long, just going to your favorite web

1010
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: page and just hitting refresh, refresh, refresh.

1011
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 11: That's how it goes on these days, isn't it. That's

1012
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 11: especially when the deadlines are always in the afternoon. It's

1013
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 11: like you kind of just sit and wait and put

1014
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 11: out feelers all day.

1015
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: So, Jake, when you look at guys who might be

1016
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: on the bubble, well, actually let's start here. What are

1017
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: your thoughts on the Mackay Blackman trade and what that

1018
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 5: can mean for some guys in that cornerback room who

1019
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: may be on the bubble.

1020
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought that one was interesting. This guy seemed

1021
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 11: like he's kind of cut from that same justin Wally

1022
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 11: Samuel wollmack Cloth. But the whole group of corners is

1023
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 11: kind of influx. You know, Juju Brinston, j Jones just

1024
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 11: recently came back, but Jones isn't quite ready for field work. Womack,

1025
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 11: of course, had that hamstring last week. It looks like

1026
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 11: he was limping around a bit when we saw him

1027
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 11: at practice. So I think the riding on the wall

1028
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 11: is that at least one of these guys is expected

1029
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 11: to be out a little while when the season starts.

1030
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 11: But I don't Blackman, I don't think moves the needle

1031
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 11: like Xavien Howard does. For example, like Howard already got

1032
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 11: penciled in as a starter on their depth start.

1033
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: But black Men, you.

1034
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 11: Know, he's coming off in acl last year and hasn't

1035
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 11: had the strongest summer for the Vikings. With maybe a

1036
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 11: guy who you know, maybe not even going to make

1037
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 11: the team.

1038
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Or really kind of scratching and calling.

1039
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 11: For reps there, it feels very much like a Lomac

1040
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 11: thing from last year. I'm guessing he's kind of insurance

1041
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 11: and maybe along the lines of like a.

1042
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: Third or fourth cornerback.

1043
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 11: But what I thought was really interesting with him is

1044
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 11: he's not really got a ton of special teams experience,

1045
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 11: So I was kind of curious about that if that's

1046
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 11: their playing with him, or if he's actually supposed to

1047
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 11: get playing time, or what they're going to do there.

1048
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: Jack Arthur again, you can find his work locked on

1049
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: Colts Great, Great, Listen and SI From a written standpoint,

1050
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: one more on the corner front. You don't believe Juju

1051
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: Brentz is a cut candidate, do you.

1052
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1053
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 11: You know, either of Samuel Wellmacker or Juju Brents. They

1054
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 11: don't feel super safe. But if it was me, I'd

1055
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 11: probably be more inclined to go with Juju over Wollmack.

1056
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: The problem with Juju obviously.

1057
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 11: He's he's been hurt throughout his first couple of years,

1058
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 11: but when he's on the field, he's pretty good. And

1059
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 11: I think they've been getting him trying to get him

1060
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 11: more reps on special teams to kind of bring even

1061
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 11: more valuable value to the team when he's not out

1062
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 11: there on defense.

1063
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Speaker 1: I would say they would.

1064
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 11: If it's between the two, I would probably lean more

1065
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 11: into Juju brent sticking around Womack, you know, with the

1066
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 11: injury and it felt like he was kind of battling

1067
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 11: for a spot to begin with. I mean, you guys

1068
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 11: were there, you saw the injury that cornerback. They you know,

1069
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 11: they gave Jonathan Edwards serious naps, They gave Alex Johnson

1070
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 11: serious naps.

1071
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: Womack was not always.

1072
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 11: A guy that they just immediately threw right in there

1073
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 11: to absorb those first team reps when other guys went down.

1074
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Speaker 3: How about offensively, pass catcher wasn't too difficult for me?

1075
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: Feel free to go down the Jelaanni Woods route if you, well,

1076
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: if you want to running back a little bit more

1077
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: of a question given the injuries Tyler Goodson and Khalil Herbert,

1078
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: But what do you view offensively of stuff you're curious

1079
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: about with cuts?

1080
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think with Goodson and Herbert it's certainly that's

1081
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 11: the big question because I.

1082
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: Would think they'd only keep three running backs. But you

1083
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know to what degree these guys are injured.

1084
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 11: Herbert's already been out a couple of weeks, so he,

1085
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 11: you know, could be closer returning. When we talked to

1086
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 11: Shane yesterday, I couldn't get a great gauge on Goodson, Like,

1087
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 11: do you guys feel like he was maybe an early

1088
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 11: IRA candidate.

1089
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean it.

1090
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Speaker 11: Sounded like he was expected to be back within the

1091
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Speaker 11: first you know, handful of weeks there in the regular season.

1092
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't.

1093
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I did speak to Tyler Goods and he

1094
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 5: told me dislocated as left elbow, doesn't need surgery and

1095
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: was hoping to get back early in the season. Now,

1096
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if that means, you know, he's an

1097
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: ER candidate or not, but he's seen more games as

1098
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: the cut exactly. But yeah, he seemed optimistic that he

1099
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 5: could be out there within the first month of the season.

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00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 11: Okay, See, I mean, I mean, if they wanted to

1101
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 11: play cautious with him, they could certainly throw him on

1102
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Speaker 11: ir to begin and then have an extra roster spot there.

1103
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 11: But then with the pass catchers, yeah, I think we're

1104
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 11: all kind of in the same boat where we've got

1105
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 11: Warren Moley, Cox, Ogle Tree, and Will Mallory, with Johnny

1106
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 11: Woods kind of being the guy on the outside looking in.

1107
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 11: I think he kind of accomplished everything he needed to

1108
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 11: this summer, but it just wasn't enough to surpass Will Mallory.

1109
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 11: And obviously he's you know, Woods has been going with

1110
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 11: the twos and threes all summer. Mallory has been with

1111
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 11: the ones and twos, so you can kind of obviously

1112
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 11: tell what they want there. And he's played a lot

1113
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 11: in the preseason as well. If they could get him

1114
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 11: onto the practice.

1115
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: Squad, they'd be great. But seeing as.

1116
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 11: He was healthy all summer and you know, made some plays,

1117
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 11: I've got to imagine another team will probably try and

1118
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 11: scoop him off.

1119
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Flavors h Jake.

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Speaker 2: This is obviously a roster on defense that's being heavily

1121
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: influenced by the new defensive coordinator, lou Anaumo. In that light,

1122
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: something we've talked about, how many linebackers do you see

1123
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: them even keeping on this roster?

1124
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not many.

1125
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 11: Definitely fewer than a Gus Bradley defense I would have imagined.

1126
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 11: And we've obviously kind of probed them about linebackers throughout

1127
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 11: the offseason and they just have not really seemed all

1128
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 11: that concerned.

1129
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Speaker 1: I think I've got them with five Bachie Franklin, Carlais mcgron,

1130
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: actually four, I guess. Aloupi is a guy that.

1131
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 11: We obviously thought he was probably going to be competing for,

1132
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 11: you know, a third linebacker spot going into the summer,

1133
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 11: but they haven't really been given him all that much

1134
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 11: they've been feeding really all that stuff to Bachie and

1135
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 11: mcgron and really Austin the GK. Carlis has been banged

1136
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Speaker 11: up as well. We'll see how long he's out. I

1137
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 11: don't think they're going to keep that many linebackers. There's

1138
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 11: probably almost never going to be more than two on

1139
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 11: the field. At the same time, we've seen them be

1140
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 11: very willing to use three safeties on the field at once.

1141
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 11: It's kind of affected with Hunter Wooler being out for

1142
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 11: the year.

1143
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Speaker 1: You lose a little.

1144
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 11: Versatility there, But I still think they would be more

1145
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 11: apt to use an extra defensive back than they would

1146
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 11: be an extra linebacker.

1147
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 5: So, Jake, I believe the last time I saw you, you

1148
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: were telling me you had some scheduled conflicts and you

1149
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: might not be able to make Chris Ballace press conference tomorrow.

1150
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 5: So now we have you on the show. If you

1151
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 5: had to ask him one or two questions in all seriousness,

1152
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 5: and I would imagine they will get asked to some

1153
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 5: degree from all of us in support of you and

1154
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 5: and support of each other, trying to get real answers,

1155
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: what would those questions be?

1156
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I imagine he's going to spend the

1157
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 11: first twenty thirty minutes talking about the quarterback competition, Right, Yeah,

1158
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 11: I would just I'm just very curious about the validity

1159
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 11: of the quarterback competition because I thought, you know, let's

1160
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 11: say you thought Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson was a

1161
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 11: wash going through training camp as far as how the

1162
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 11: competition went. You know, Anthony I thought showed some growth.

1163
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 11: Now there's obviously still some things he needs to improve,

1164
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 11: and it's not like he had an awesome summer, but

1165
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 11: it looked largely like he accomplished a lot of things

1166
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 11: they wanted him to, and I don't know how much

1167
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 11: more he could have proved. So Daniel Jones getting the

1168
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 11: nod with you know, the reasoning mostly being that he's

1169
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 11: just got this big mental catalog of stuff that he's

1170
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 11: acquired over being a veteran, and he's better at the

1171
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 11: line and all that.

1172
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Well, how could Anthony.

1173
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 11: Have possibly you know, made up all that ground over

1174
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 11: the course of the summer. It just it kind of

1175
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 11: I think a lot of people are questioning how valid

1176
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 11: the quarterback competition really was.

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Speaker 1: Because what more could Anthony have done and done?

1178
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Speaker 11: So that's that's definitely one thing I would be curious

1179
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 11: about and then you know if if they feel like

1180
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 11: they might be playing it safe with Jones, because I mean,

1181
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 11: I think you would want Anthony to continue developing if

1182
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 11: he was playing so was his baseline of play just

1183
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 11: not good enough to be patient for his development throughout

1184
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 11: the year, Like do you just think you can get

1185
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 11: this high floor with Daniel each week of the season

1186
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 11: that's going to be good enough to get you into

1187
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 11: the playoffs?

1188
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: It's I would just really like to see the look.

1189
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Speaker 11: Behind the curtain of what they really think their ceiling

1190
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 11: is this year with Jones and Jake.

1191
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: Arthur was here SI dot com where can find his

1192
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: work locked on Colts straight listed him and Zach X

1193
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: along with Eric Schultzen Allan think it a little bit

1194
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 3: as well as they've expanded their coverage.

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00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 6: Jake.

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Speaker 3: Last one for me. I threw this hypothetical with the

1197
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: guys about a half hour ago. You probably signed a

1198
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Speaker 3: little bit more in the Notre Dame camp, so I

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Speaker 3: might change it up a little bit here. Better chance

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is traded today or Marcus Freeman's Irish win

1201
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: the national title this year?

1202
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Speaker 11: Oof, I would say I would say Irish, You know,

1203
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 11: I don't. As much as the Colts seem to be

1204
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 11: averse to putting all their eggs into anthony basket, I

1205
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 11: don't think they want to trade him either. I think

1206
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 11: if they did trade him, it would have to be

1207
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 11: a team approaching them with like an awesome offer, because

1208
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 11: we've heard from Chris GoGG before he wants to he

1209
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 11: wants to honor their side of things and keep guys

1210
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 11: in the house, you know, let them live out.

1211
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: Their contracts and everything. If he's going to trade.

1212
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 11: Someone, he wants it to be a good situation for

1213
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 11: that player. He wants it to be right for the

1214
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 11: team as well. He just he's not going to want

1215
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 11: to give guys away for nothing. But at the same time,

1216
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 11: I think they have kind of honored guy's trade requests before.

1217
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 11: I mean, there's been guys who have wanted out before,

1218
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 11: and as long as it was reasonable and didn't seem

1219
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 11: too toxic, they've honored that. So I still don't really

1220
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Speaker 11: see Anthony being traded because at the same time, Daniel

1221
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 11: Jones hasn't had the best bill of health throughout his career,

1222
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 11: so something happens to him suddenly, rightly, Leonard as your quarterback,

1223
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 11: so you know, the Irish being on the heels of

1224
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 11: a national title appearance and having the best running back

1225
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 11: in the nation.

1226
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Speaker 1: You know, quarterback situation seems to be looking up. I

1227
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Speaker 1: like the Irish. Let's say you, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would agree. Jeff had a very quick audible

1229
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: groan when I said that hypothetical to you, that your

1230
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: skepticism and Notre Dame No.

1231
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Speaker 2: I felt like we were being warmed up when you

1232
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: originally asked the question about what Indiana make the final

1233
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: four this year, and now he's pivoted with you to

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00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: another Dame, and I feel like it was a long

1235
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: play setup by Kevin.

1236
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Speaker 3: Is what Jacob is much more than Notre Dame Phantom.

1237
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: So just trying to play a little bit more to

1238
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Speaker 3: Jake Arthur of the appreciate that using you, Jake, he's

1239
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: using you. Yes, Jake, I would I would agree with you.

1240
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Speaker 3: I I thought you really said the Richardson part very well.

1241
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: I would agree. Yeah, it might sound weird to some people,

1242
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: but I don't get the vibe that, like, you know,

1243
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: this is going to be whatever Kenny pick at, Sam

1244
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: hal I don't know some of these quarterbacks that have

1245
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: moved here in the last couple of days. So yes,

1246
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: I thought that was very well said.

1247
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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it. I try to speak well for

1248
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: your guys in the morning.

1249
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: I always going to talk to you. And uh, as

1250
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: I said Jake Arthur locked on colts, you can find

1251
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: that anywhere podcasts can be found. You can read this

1252
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: stuff at SI dot com. We appreciate it. A few

1253
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: minutes of your time this morning. We'll be watching the

1254
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: wires with you all day long.

1255
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thanks.

1256
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: There you go. Nice him to stop by this morning

1257
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday morning. And uh, I get the sense

1258
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: cap morn than anything, you're just excited for for real,

1259
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: Week one a college football to come, like it's here,

1260
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: let's go.

1261
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: I love college football more than you love the Tour

1262
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: de France.

1263
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: Not true, not possible, not possible.

1264
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 5: Jeff shot that down real quick. We have beefs not

1265
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 5: at MARKA is beef this morning. I love both, by

1266
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 5: the way, I know, I know, we know.

1267
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 3: I love both. Your wife doesn't want to hear that

1268
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: who's your favorite kid?

1269
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh no, I have a theory about this. I have

1270
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 4: a theory about.

1271
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite kid?

1272
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: James Boyd.

1273
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 5: So I tell them, well, first of all, when I

1274
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 5: walk in the house whenever they see me out something

1275
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 5: the best ever happened to them.

1276
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: So of course I'm a favorite kid.

1277
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 5: I say this to the twin who lives at you know,

1278
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: who still lives closer to her parents than than I do.

1279
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 5: So I think she's a favorite at the moment. But

1280
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 5: I think it's momentary or is that word. I think

1281
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: that there are certain moments where you fluctuate between which

1282
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: kids you like more, because I know, raising twins, there

1283
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 5: is no way my parents liked both of us equally

1284
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: all the time. That's the narrative with twins is like, oh,

1285
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: you gotta love them all equally. I was not always

1286
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: the best kid. So yeah, that's my theory there.

1287
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: Look at that to come up with such your father,

1288
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: your father of three mark, where are you out.

1289
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: On that the ranking has changed daily? Yes, I will

1290
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: say that with three there's always one that's just the

1291
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: a hole. That's how it works. There's always one that's

1292
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 4: in a bad mood.

1293
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 7: They're just like like, what's going on?

1294
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you keep giving me old dominion Kennesaus State

1295
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: in Indiana State and we can have a conversation later on.

1296
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm telling you now, if I have more

1297
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: than three kids down the line. You all can quote

1298
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 5: me on this, Mark, you can clip it now. I

1299
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: will absolutely have favorites if I have four kids.

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Speaker 2: I'm yes, I'm about to every every day when he goes.

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Speaker 2: You know how some some families have like that chalkboard,

1302
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: the message board up in the kitchen. Every day, James

1303
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: is going to have today's rank.

1304
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm ranks kidd, one of my kids being an a

1305
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: hole and zero is what it says.

1306
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 7: It's like you take like the number one ranking and

1307
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 7: you just slowly lower it and like you feel the

1308
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 7: heart sink, like no.

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Speaker 2: So number one. This is what happens though. You're gonna

1310
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: wake up one morning and you go to the chalkboard

1311
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: to make your rankings and you go no. You'll see

1312
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: a message that says, no, Dad, you're the blank.

1313
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: That person is getting sleeping on at that point, I mean, hey,

1314
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: it's pass you are sleeping in the shed.

1315
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Look, it's one of the reasons I do what I do.

1316
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: I love sports. I've told you a million times. Mark,

1317
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: You've heard me say it. You give me a championship

1318
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: competition in just about anything, I'll put down the remote

1319
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: and watch it.

1320
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can believe you and your

1321
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: Tour de France love being the same as college football.

1322
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Would you like to check my phone real?

1323
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: WHOA, I don't want to know.

1324
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 5: I'm like.

1325
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: I was offering it up should to you a couple

1326
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: of weeks.

1327
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: Again, that was on the actual text line. That was

1328
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: not to my phone, that was public you.

1329
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: Know, screenshots.

1330
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous download and sent to you.

1331
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, we'll figure this all out during the checkdown.

1332
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Speaker 9: The morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one seven

1333
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 9: five Bay, we'll get.

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Speaker 2: To the college football schedule for the weekend coming up

1335
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: at a moment. But first cutdown day in the National

1336
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: Football League. Indianapolis Colts, like everybody else, have until four

1337
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: pm this afternoon. James, do we see any even mild

1338
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: surprises today?

1339
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1340
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: I think the question is throughout our show is just

1341
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 5: Juju Brintce. I personally think that he will be on

1342
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 5: the fifty three man roster, but as our buddy Jake

1343
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 5: Arthur just said from Colts s I, I don't know

1344
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: if it's like one hundred percent lot. So that's the

1345
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: name I'm keeping an eye on, and I guess Jelaney

1346
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 5: would be another one too, because he's a former third

1347
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: round pick.

1348
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: For you, Kevin, she got a keen eye on.

1349
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably echoed both of that. You know, do

1350
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: we see anything else on the trade front? You know,

1351
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: last night obviously the Colts traded at six round pick

1352
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: front corner. We've talked about that. We'll continue to share

1353
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: some more info there, But.

1354
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: You bring me Michael Parson's via trade.

1355
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: Those would be probably the big items that I'm watching for.

1356
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: Who are the injured reserve candidates to return? And then

1357
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: as we talk tomorrow morning, you know, are there any

1358
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: waiver claims? Typically those oftentimes can fall into draft picks

1359
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: that you liked that you just missed out on in

1360
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: the draft. You see another team cutting them, and then

1361
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: you want to try and you know, hey, let's give

1362
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: them an opportunity in our building. There is there any

1363
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: Kenny Moore's or Jack Doyle's you know lingering around there.

1364
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, the Colts have not been waiting on that. They've

1365
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: been using the lower round draft picks all over the place.

1366
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: Their latest yesterday as a sixth rounder in twenty twenty

1367
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: six for safety Makai Blackman from the Minnesota Vikings. A

1368
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: lot of business done this year in the offseason between

1369
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: the Vikings and the Colts.

1370
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 5: James just a little bit there, but certainly a noteworthy move.

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01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 5: Makai Blackman has not played in twenty twenty three, which

1372
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 5: was his rookie season, missed all last year with an

1373
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 5: acl but he is back healthy. And what does that

1374
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 5: mean for the rest of the cornerback room? That is

1375
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: the question.

1376
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep an eye on that all day long.

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Listen live right here at ninety three five one O

1378
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: SEVENYI fan for the very latest in any NFL and

1379
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: Colts moves throughout the day.

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Speaker 7: Tommy DeVito released by the Giants. So Tommy Cutlet's a

1381
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 7: free Agent's there you go?

1382
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: I would r Anthony Richardson and Tommy DeVito and his

1383
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: agent are calling Indie home.

1384
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 7: I guys just said on Twitter, Tommy Cutlets belongs in

1385
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 7: New York City that game. That man can't play for

1386
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 7: any other city. We would just bring all the Giants, Cord,

1387
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 7: get back of the Jets, Get the Jets on the phone.

1388
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: That's right, WNBA tonight. Caitlin Clark will not be playing tonight.

1389
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: She hasn't played since the fifteenth of July. But the

1390
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Fever will host the Seattle Storm and she is Nike's

1391
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: newest signature athlete. That means she gets her own logo

1392
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: soon to be your own shoe, and down the line,

1393
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: even her own clothing line. Kevin, So good for Caitlin

1394
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: Clark in the absence of actually playing right now because

1395
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: you've hurt.

1396
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: What a huge week for the Fever. I mean, I

1397
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: cannot reiterate that enough. If you look at the standings

1398
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 3: right now, the teams right above them, right below them,

1399
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: they're going to see them all here tonight, Seattle, the Sparks,

1400
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: and the Valkyries. That's La and Golden State coming up

1401
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: this weekend as they start a western road trip. If

1402
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: you go one and two, zero to three something like

1403
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: that this week, then it's not looking great for the playoffs.

1404
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: But if you're able to continue to beat Seattle, which

1405
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: they've done this season, and get them out west, then

1406
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: they could be in good standing here two weeks to go,

1407
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: two weeks from today the regular season finale.

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: And across the hawsome news for the Indiana Pacers, Yes, Ken.

1409
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: Bone, Yeah, they're gonna bump up. Jim Boyl. I think

1410
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 3: we talked about this on yesterday's show to the front

1411
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: of the bench to replace Mike Winer as they're again

1412
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: kind of front of the bench assistant. So still with

1413
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: Lloyd Pierce still at Ginny Boussek coming back, and then

1414
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: it will be Jim Boylan, former head coach here in

1415
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: the BA. The added Johnny Carpenter to the staff, got

1416
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: some Virginia ties, got some ties with Rick Carlisle as well,

1417
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: dating back to the Dallas days. So Rick Carlisle will

1418
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: add Jim Boylan, who I think you saw do halftime

1419
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: interviews of Jeremiah Johnson this past season, probably always viewed

1420
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 3: as in front of the bench assistant. Anyways, now he

1421
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: will be up there for all eighty two games.

1422
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, your disquality from this question because we

1423
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: know where your viewing habits are going to be this weekend.

1424
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: But if you had to choose James for college football

1425
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: this weekend, are you interested in Purdue Ball State, Notre

1426
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: Dame at Miami, Indiana hosting old dimission a question or

1427
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: Butler at Northern I which one? Are you personally interested in?

1428
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 5: Ohio State in Texas? But of course it is Notre

1429
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: Dame in Miami. I mean it has to be.

1430
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: Lord, did you read off those four games? If he

1431
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: said anything else, Miami, I have to check us pulse.

1432
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 4: I was gonna say yeah.

1433
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 5: As the guy who isn't a liver die with college

1434
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 5: football person, I will certainly live and die with the

1435
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 5: bigger games.

1436
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: So yes, it has to be a marking matchup for

1437
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: me to watch.

1438
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: Todd Meyer is somewhere shaking his fist at the radio

1439
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: right now. He can't shake the way you guys didn't

1440
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: say ball State Perdue come.

1441
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: On, by the way, Shout out to Devin Mockaby, Perdue

1442
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: running back. He is one of the only notable players

1443
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: to stay at Purdue for Barry Odom like in a

1444
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: day and age where everyone transfer portals it and many

1445
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: of his marquee teammates did that last year. I think

1446
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: that's a pretty cool story that Devin Mockaby is going

1447
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: to finish his career with the Boilers and believe he

1448
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: is moving up the charts there in terms of an

1449
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: all time leading rusher as well. So you don't get

1450
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: many of those stories in twenty twenty five college athletics,

1451
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: particularly college football, So shout out to the man from

1452
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: the Evansville area, Devin Mackaby I love his running style,

1453
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: all right.

1454
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: Some major League baseball to tell you about. Yesterday, the

1455
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: Dodgers beat the Reds seven to nothing, Saint Louis over

1456
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: the Pirates seven to six, the White Sox shut out

1457
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: the Royals seven zilch, and Cam Raleigh continues to impress

1458
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: in the American cal I said, Cam, didn't I cal

1459
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: Raley fifty home runs. I just it's insane. These are

1460
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: historic numbers. We've never seen this from a catcher before,

1461
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: and he's only the second switch hitter in Major League

1462
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 2: baseball history. They had fifty home runs from both sides

1463
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: of the place.

1464
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 4: He's incredible. Big dumper getting it done.

1465
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: We gotta work on that nickname, though, don't.

1466
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: We duck now Man? The way he's balling, he had

1467
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: the Big Dumper.

1468
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: Thirty years from now, people are gonna be looked back on,

1469
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Big Dumper.

1470
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the greatness of Big Dumper Man.

1471
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: Fun to watch though. Baseball's actually been fun for me

1472
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: this year. I kind of fell out alike with it

1473
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: for a minute. But I've seen a rocket right now.

1474
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: You're loving it right now.

1475
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, Actually, at one point when I worked in the Northwest,

1476
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: I did like when the Mariners had King Griffy Jr.

1477
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: And Randy Johnson and stuff like that. I was young,

1478
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: but no, it's always been the Reds. That's always been the.

1479
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 4: Was that a young band wagon, Jeff that I'm hearing?

1480
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: I was there for years as as just out of college,

1481
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: so I kind of went to the games all the time.

1482
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 7: Remember years ago when Rob Low was at the NFL game,

1483
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 7: he had the NFL logo on that. Yeah, he just

1484
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 7: says the MLB logoba the Reds.

1485
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: I tell you all the time. Reds were my first

1486
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: ever Major League Baseball game. They've always been my team.

1487
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: Are you gonna abandon being a Reds fan?

1488
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: Are you going to abandon following this team?

1489
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: Hey? Who was pumping up Ellie de la Cruz in

1490
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 2: a loss because he scored from first base?

1491
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: Razing there?

1492
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: You were? Yeah?

1493
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: Good lord, Okay, not the first time he pumped up

1494
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: old Ellie. Is it best when your team just like

1495
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: sees their season die out west so like you don't

1496
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: really have to watch it? Is that like a is

1497
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: that a little bit of a Well, at least I'm

1498
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: not living and dying at you know, eight forty eight

1499
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: pm with like bullpen pitches at least it's happening while

1500
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm in rem sleep and I just wake up to it.

1501
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: Do you remember when you were a little kid and

1502
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: you'd fall asleep early for school and the first thing

1503
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: you'd ask your dad in the morning is after your team.

1504
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: Did I remember asking that about the Duke Yukon national

1505
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: title game? I was stunned when he told me that

1506
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 3: Yukon beat Duke Ricky Moore for Yukon.

1507
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: Did your dad ever mess with you at first just

1508
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: to kind of get a bad reaction.

1509
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: I don't think my dad was that that that cruel there.

1510
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh he wouldn't. He wouldn't go on with it all

1511
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: day long, but he'd like just to see my reaction.

1512
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember my dad at that age.

1513
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: It can be an emotional state. Hell, I've been watching

1514
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: my nephew reactive sports, and man, you never.

1515
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 5: Know, y'all know your nephew had to be going through

1516
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 5: it through some things this summer with the Pacers. I mean,

1517
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 5: my goodness, But I remember my dad stayed up for

1518
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 5: the Syracuse Yukon six overtime game years ago, and he

1519
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 5: looked so tired the next morning.

1520
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: But as a.

1521
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 5: Sports lover, he was like James I had to see

1522
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 5: how it ended. So I went to school refreshed, and

1523
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: he went to work very tired. But the man has

1524
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: no regrets and I respect him for it.

1525
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. I don't my parents.

1526
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 5: I will say, Johnny Flynn days back at back in

1527
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 5: the day, I will.

1528
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 3: Say this door if up on the scores table after

1529
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: that game.

1530
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents would let me stay up for bigger games. Well, look,

1531
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate that to the cool parents out there. So

1532
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: the record coming up in a moment. We will continue

1533
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: to talk about the Colts. I got a lot of

1534
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: decisions to make later on today. We'll get to the

1535
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: text line full throated for the first time today at

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: two three nine ten seventy as we continue the Fan

1537
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: Morning Show ninety three five one seven five The Thing

1538
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday. It will be anything but for a number

1539
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: of potential NFL players throughout the country today as it

1540
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: is cut down day, and they used to do it

1541
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: a little bit at a time, but over the years

1542
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: they've just decided, you know what, you guys, keep as

1543
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: many people as you want in camp, but everybody's got

1544
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: to have a fifty three man roster by four pm

1545
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: on the twenty sixth of August this particular year. And

1546
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: so there'll be a lot of guys who don't want

1547
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: phone calls today. They don't want to knock on their door.

1548
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 2: It used to be when you're out at camp, they'd

1549
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: come knock on your door. Now it's it's your cell phone.

1550
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 2: Keep your cell phone handy and ready, And a lot

1551
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 2: of guys don't want that. And then the worst, James,

1552
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: is when you make today's fifty three man roster, but

1553
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: then because of shuffling and maybe picking up somebody from

1554
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: another roster, you go to get to work tomorrow morning

1555
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: and you find out, yeah, ultimately you didn't make the team.

1556
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: It's tough.

1557
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 5: It is tough, but that is life of an NFL

1558
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: fringe athlete. So we'll see a lot of guys trying

1559
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 5: to chase their dreams today and trying to validate their

1560
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: dreams today, and we'll see how it all shakes out

1561
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,919
Speaker 5: here in a few hours.

1562
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to the text line right now, and Brandon

1563
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: writes in Kevin, just my thoughts on Anthony Richards and

1564
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: I would not be disappointed if they did did is

1565
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: that trade today? But I doubt that happens. I think

1566
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: the cults are going to keep him around as long

1567
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: as they can. You can call him silly or whatever,

1568
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: but Riley Leonard showed me the other day really liked

1569
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: what he had to offer. I'm not saying he's any

1570
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: better than Daniel Jones or anything like that, but I

1571
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: think we could get by with Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard.

1572
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

1573
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh, get by, it's quite the compliment. Yeah, I don't

1574
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: see them moving to Anthony and Richardson in an eminent

1575
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 3: state by any mean. Maybe I'm dead wrong on that.

1576
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 3: I look at Riley Leonard's a guy that continues to

1577
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: need development. Obviously a really nice half from him the

1578
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 3: other day, but I think he's a guy that, you know,

1579
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: again has to learn how to deliver from the pocket,

1580
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 3: and you know, whether that takes a couple of years,

1581
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: we'll see, but you know, a nice option. I don't

1582
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: know if i'd have him necessarily be your backup, and

1583
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: you know, with Richardson, I don't understand. Maybe what is

1584
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: the urgency in moving him. I don't I mean, for

1585
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, sitting all of a sudden turned him into

1586
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,440
Speaker 3: a better player than where he was at in November.

1587
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 3: Maybe Anthony Richardson sitting All of a sudden, someone says,

1588
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm kind of intrigued by him. Our

1589
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 3: quarterback situation got a little murky as the season moved along.

1590
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 5: Well, I guess the pushback will be that Daniel Jones

1591
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 5: did ask to be released, and then he joined the Vikings,

1592
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 5: and then he sat out the rest of the season, So.

1593
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna sit with New York. New York wasn't

1594
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: gonna play him because.

1595
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 5: The going somewhere where you have an offensive mind or

1596
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 5: coach that is more I guess suited to rehab your

1597
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,959
Speaker 5: image a bit. Because we all know that Kevin O'Connell

1598
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 5: has currently looked at as the QB whisper or somebody

1599
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 5: who can help revive your career. I'm not saying that

1600
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 5: a ton for Daniel Jones, but he did switch teams

1601
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 5: with all I'm saying.

1602
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kind of look at it as Daniel

1603
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: Jones in all likelihoods and not going to start all

1604
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: seventeen games. So if and when that happens, which I

1605
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: agree with, I probably rather see Anthony Richardson get one

1606
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 3: more crack, Adam and see what happens.

1607
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: Graham from Avon. We were talking earlier about the fan

1608
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 2: base seemingly being disgruntled right now and vocally disgruntled about

1609
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: the leadership with the Indianapolis Colts, and Graham says, yeah,

1610
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: definitely ticked off. And I edited that Shane has no

1611
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: accountability of what he says and just expects us to

1612
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: believe him when he lies about things like he's going

1613
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: to be the starter the whole season. Thoughts on that, James.

1614
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there is a certain level of uncertainty

1615
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: that fans should have about everything that Shane Styken says,

1616
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 5: because what he's been saying, at least in the past,

1617
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 5: has not held up when push comes to shove.

1618
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: And I think in the story I put out.

1619
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 5: Last week kind of detail on why it isn't just

1620
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 5: Anthony's fault story over the athletic, the line that a

1621
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 5: lot of people kind of gave me feedback about was

1622
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: this paragraph I had in there, and I'll just read

1623
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 5: it aloud. So this isn't a two week span last

1624
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 5: year when Anthony got benched initially for Joe Flacco and

1625
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 5: then got reinserted a couple weeks later for Joe Flacco.

1626
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 5: So that first week when I asked Shane, hey, do

1627
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 5: you think Ar will ever start again for this franchise,

1628
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 5: he says, quote, I can't predict the future. And then

1629
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 5: they moved to Joe Flacco, and I believe this might

1630
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 5: have been Kevin or somebody else is getting clarity. Hey,

1631
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 5: by the way, is Joe Flacco your started for the

1632
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 5: rest of the year. And Shane confirms that yes, quote,

1633
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 5: he will be our starter going forward, meaning through the

1634
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 5: rest of the year. And then when they benched Joe

1635
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 5: Flacco because they lose two games in a row and

1636
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 5: they're worse with him than with Anthony Richardson, they go

1637
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 5: back to Ar and then Ssichen says, quote, Anthony Richson

1638
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 5: is going to be quote our franchise quarterback. Those are

1639
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 5: three wildly different statements, all made within fourteen days. So

1640
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 5: if people don't believe what you say now, they have

1641
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 5: no reason to because what you said then has never

1642
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 5: held up. That's my biggest issue, which Sam's thyking, is

1643
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: why would anyone believe in a plan that you give.

1644
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: Whatever plan you gave, you've never stuck to it. And

1645
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 5: then on top of that, my biggest issue, on top

1646
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 5: of him, just the talking and all that is one thing.

1647
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 5: But how the development affects the player, or better a

1648
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 5: plan you have effects the player is another thing. And

1649
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 5: again you said, Anthony Richardson is not ready to start.

1650
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 5: He needs to go to the bench after the TapouT.

1651
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 5: He's got a lot going on. He needs to chill out.

1652
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 5: And then you stunk for two games. You fell below

1653
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 5: five hundred two games, and then you were like, you

1654
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: know what, wait a second, even if with all his flaws,

1655
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 5: his preparation goes, it's not where I wanted to be,

1656
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 5: he's still better than the other guys. Let's go back

1657
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 5: to him. What does that mean? You told us he

1658
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 5: had to sit And then again I think it was

1659
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 5: you me everyone. How much can it God change in

1660
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 5: two weeks? News flash, you probably can't. So that's the

1661
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: biggest thing with Shane, is you kind of flip flopping.

1662
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe on the side we can play this,

1663
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: you know stichen audio in regards to Richardson. But you know,

1664
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: I go back to the combine James, and you know

1665
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 3: he mentioned like, you know, he's learned, Shane, this is

1666
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: learning from some of the mistakes of like, I need

1667
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: to set the standard more clear, reiterating the standard over

1668
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: and over again, you know, not saying at the start

1669
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: of training camp, at the start of the season and

1670
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 3: just hoping that like that's going to be there throughout

1671
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 3: the season, because clearly last year his messaging behind the

1672
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: scenes ran into issues.

1673
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, that's what truly matters.

1674
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: You know, we bring up obviously Belichick and sure your

1675
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: messaging in public is one thing, but when you're messaging

1676
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, which he admitted had issues last season,

1677
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: then that's where the problem comes into play. And with

1678
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 3: Richardson specifically his team, you know, according to Stephen Holder,

1679
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 3: has had some frustrated moment moments with the organization and

1680
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 3: what the public messaging has been of their player there

1681
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 3: and again I largely think it's you know, some form

1682
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: of competitive advantage and or I'm not gonna say anything

1683
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: because I'm going to protect you know, the player at

1684
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: all costs. But at times I think when you don't

1685
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: offer transparency, it then doesn't protect him. Ie talking about

1686
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 3: Anthony's back last year like it was just some casual

1687
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: thing when it ended up costing him multiple games, And honestly,

1688
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: you can probably look at that back and say that

1689
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: might have been you know, one of the bigger nails

1690
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 3: in the coffin of like, here's just one more thing

1691
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 3: after he had shown some better football there the Jets

1692
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: the Patriots game in the latter stages of the season.

1693
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in a moment, we'll hear from

1694
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: Shane Stiken. What did he have to say yesterday? How's

1695
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: it all fold in to what we've been talking about

1696
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: and what the quarterback situation looks like? Down the road

1697
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: it comes to you, wed X, it's ninety three five

1698
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: one oh seven five. Well, I'm going to cut down

1699
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: day here in the National Football League. Got ninety three

1700
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: five one oh seveny five the fan. We won't have

1701
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 2: definitive answers until later on this afternoon on what the

1702
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: fifty to three man roster looks like at the end

1703
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 2: of the day. It'll probably change the next couple of

1704
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: days as well, but we'll keep you up to date

1705
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: on it all day long us here until ten, any

1706
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: big moves will be covered by ESPN, and then of

1707
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: course at noon it'll be Jake Query and three to

1708
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 2: six it'll be John Michael Vincent or JMV as you

1709
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: like to call him. J D from Colorado on the

1710
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: text line at two three nine ten seventy says Shane

1711
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: clearly had an impact on quarterbacks when he was in OC.

1712
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: As a head coach, he has no time to develop

1713
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback Ballard, Please hire a competent quarterback guru for

1714
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: this team. J D and Colorado says that.

1715
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of

1716
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 3: debate about the offensive staff, and you know he opted

1717
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: for continuity with that group. And yeah, I know I've

1718
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: brought this up before, but you know, you go back

1719
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: to Andrew Luck and think about the college career of

1720
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck and Chuck McGonnell had Bruce Aria and Kly Christiansen.

1721
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 3: That was quite the OC and quarterbacks coach for Andrew Luck.

1722
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 3: That is not the resume of Jim, Bob Kouter and

1723
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: Cam Turner. So you know, I know Shane as a

1724
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,839
Speaker 3: head coach certainly is much more offensive minded than Chuck Pagano.

1725
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I found that interesting. That was a storyline

1726
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 3: for me early in the offseason. Would you change the

1727
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: offensive staff? Did you feel like the voices needed to

1728
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 3: change around Anthony Richardson at all? They opted for no

1729
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: on that front, and you know, obviously it hasn't played

1730
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: out very well.

1731
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone lines at two through nine,

1732
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: ten seventy. Bobby's been hanging on for a minute. Thanks

1733
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: Bobby for waiting your term, but we appreciate you being there.

1734
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: What's on your mind this morning?

1735
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 12: Well, thanks for taking my call first off, But I

1736
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 12: was just wondering We've seen it in the past, whether

1737
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 12: it be Brian Lee, some of the quarterbacks lately, deer

1738
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 12: lately that are signing multi million dollar contracts stay out college,

1739
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 12: and I'm just wondering about maturity on these guys. Is

1740
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 12: Anthony Richardson turns out and he's I got a million

1741
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 12: dollars multi million dollars in my pocket, And I just

1742
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 12: think it's takes a very very special person to be

1743
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 12: able to say, Yeah, I've got this multi million dollar

1744
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 12: contract in my pocket, and I'm a millionaire, never have

1745
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 12: to work to get in the rest of my life.

1746
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 12: But I just think it takes a very special person

1747
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 12: to be able to still have the work ethic and

1748
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 12: the maturity and turn around and go out there and say, hey,

1749
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 12: I want to be a best Mana's got all the

1750
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 12: chalent to physical chalent in the world, but does he

1751
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 12: have the is it a million dollar body in his

1752
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 12: five set brain.

1753
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: So I'll take this one. I see where Bobby's coming from.

1754
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 5: But I think the thing that we always kind of

1755
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 5: leave out of the equation is number one, he was

1756
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 5: twenty when he is going through the draft process, got

1757
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 5: drafted at twenty one. Yes, he got a ton of money,

1758
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 5: life changing money. Thirty four million dollars full of guaranteed

1759
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 5: will change anybody's life. However, I think back to you

1760
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 5: were twenty one, and if you did everything correctly, and yeah,

1761
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 5: you might say, well, if I was in those shoes,

1762
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 5: well you're not.

1763
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 4: A lot of us aren't.

1764
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 5: So the world that we're trying to put ourselves into

1765
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: is just one we can't really relate to at all.

1766
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 5: But I think for Anthony to kind of clear this up,

1767
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 5: he has his pitfalls, He's made his mistakes, and I

1768
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 5: have laid all of that out. I think the majority

1769
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 5: of why he hasn't worked out it is obviously on

1770
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 5: him as the player. But I think some of his

1771
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 5: pitfalls Kevin, and we've talked about this, I've talked about

1772
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 5: it on the record. All there to go people is naivety.

1773
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 5: It's not apathy like he goes into places, and he

1774
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 5: just doesn't care to work hard, or doesn't care to

1775
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 5: become a better quarterback, doesn't care to be the best

1776
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 5: player he can be for his team. A lot of

1777
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 5: it just growing up, he didn't know how to be

1778
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 5: a professional. And that is, in my opinion, where the

1779
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 5: Coat's scouting department, I'm sorry, the Colts scouting department.

1780
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: How do you not see that?

1781
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: How do you not foresee that and go after that

1782
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: and address that a lot earlier? Because again, when you

1783
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 5: get to the point we have to bench a guy

1784
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: because he isn't working hard enough, that isn't the first

1785
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 5: time you've told him that, So how didn't you get

1786
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 5: through to him? But again, I think it's naivity more

1787
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 5: than him not caring or him being arrogant.

1788
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bobby, thank you for the call. Yeah. I think

1789
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of truth in what Bobby

1790
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: is thinking or asking about. Sure, and so much of it.

1791
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 3: I do think James comes back to the evaluation point

1792
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 3: of Anthony Richardson in college. And yes, you are projecting

1793
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 3: a little bit, but this is why you have area scouts.

1794
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: This is why you have people that sift through every

1795
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 3: single bounce, investigative of background, material on these players. Yes,

1796
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: that's the exact way to describe it. And yeah, you

1797
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: again are still projecting a little bit. Hey what will

1798
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: millions of dollars do to this guy? And he did

1799
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: grow up in a climate where I think there are

1800
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 3: many more people around him that are gravitating towards that

1801
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: millions of dollars that it's harder for him to kind

1802
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 3: of keep them away a little bit here, and a

1803
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 3: lot of people moved up from Florida with him, and

1804
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 3: that's a good thing, and also it can be potentially

1805
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: a bad thing from that. So this just again gets

1806
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 3: back to the evaluation part of Richardson and projecting him,

1807
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: and I think the cults were too Frankly, I just

1808
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: think they were too lackadaisical in that process, thinking that yeah,

1809
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: it'll work out, we'll have the right culture for him

1810
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: and he'll settle in nicely. And it's like, well, you

1811
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 3: better be right on this because it's quite the big

1812
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 3: risk on the field and off the field, and it's

1813
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 3: a massive, massive investment. And I just think it was

1814
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 3: a misevaluation. Dating back to that twenty twenty three NFL draft, I.

1815
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: Was having this conversation with someone over the weekend. I've

1816
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: always felt this way about quarterbacks too, and whether it's

1817
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning who's the ultimate example of it, we saw

1818
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. I think Patrick Mahomes is like this, Joe Burrow,

1819
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 2: so many of the really really good quarterbacks and even

1820
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: some guys that aren't that talented but end up making

1821
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 2: long careers in the NFL because of this thing. I'm

1822
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: about to talk about one thing I want in an

1823
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback if he's my quarterback, Like he's obsessed with

1824
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: being an NFL quarterback all day long, everything about him.

1825
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: He's getting his body ready, he's looking at more film,

1826
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: you know that when he's going to sleep at night,

1827
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: he's going on over plays in his head, Like, Okay,

1828
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: I know I watched all this film today, but what

1829
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: if that outside linebacker, for no reason at all, does

1830
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: this instead? What's the wide receiver going to do to

1831
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: adjust to that? And when that happens, what am I

1832
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: going to do if the blitz is coming? There are

1833
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: guys who are just obsessive about everything that has to

1834
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: do with being an NFL quarterback. I think to be

1835
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: successful at any level, whether you're ultra talented like a

1836
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning or a Patrick Mahomes or you're a rock

1837
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: party that's getting every lance, last ounce out of your

1838
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: ability to play in the National Football League. Those are

1839
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: the kind of guys to me that's just like their

1840
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: entire lives are built around being quarterback in the NFL

1841
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: and nothing else even comes close.

1842
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what makes the draft selection head scratching

1843
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: looking back on it is Shane Stiken pretty much said

1844
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 3: that in what was the dominant trait he wanted in

1845
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 3: a quarterback? You think about it, Jalen Hurts, justin Herbert

1846
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,959
Speaker 3: Philip rivers different shapes and sizes, different styles of quarterback,

1847
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: all three of them. But the common thread, according to

1848
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 3: with all three of them is and again an obsession

1849
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: to play that position. And then if you look at

1850
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard's comments in regards to real the quarterback play

1851
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: in general, he's often said, you know, at some point

1852
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: you have to deliver from the pocket, basically saying at

1853
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 3: some point you've got to become a pinpoint accuracy type

1854
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: of guy. Your legs get cut off if you will.

1855
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is probably the poster child of it. For

1856
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: as great of a runner as Lamar is, he does

1857
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 3: not get anywhere near the credit that he deserves as

1858
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 3: a thrower of the football and can win games from

1859
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: the pocket, and yet the player the cold drafted Richardson

1860
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 3: that those are two of the bigger questions about him

1861
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: coming out of Florida is what you know? Are you

1862
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: married to the craft to the degree that you feel

1863
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: is necessary? And can you deliver from the pocket? So

1864
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 3: you could honestly do with thirty for thirty and probably

1865
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 3: a week long summer series on Anthony Richardson and what

1866
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: went wrong? And there are many pieces to that pie there,

1867
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: but that aspect was always a bit confusing to me.

1868
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: And you know I again, I know I said this

1869
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty three. That's why I was such

1870
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 3: a big believer. If you do anything and everything to

1871
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: get up to that first overall pick, you want to

1872
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: be the one choosing from the quarterbacks, not having the

1873
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: quarterbacks left on the shelf for you. Would it have

1874
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: cost a lot, Yes, but it wouldn't have cost as

1875
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 3: much to move from four to one as it did

1876
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 3: for Carolina to move nine to one. And then you're

1877
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 3: up there and you're saying, all right, now, let's look

1878
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: at CJ. Stroud. Now, let's look at Bryce Young obviously,

1879
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: let's look at Richardson, Let's look at you know, Levis,

1880
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 3: all these quarterbacks there and see what happens.

1881
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: So what if they go nine to eight this year

1882
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones is okay and it's a one year deal,

1883
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: and Anthony Richardson sits and learns and matures because he's

1884
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: still really young, do we start all over with him

1885
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: again in the off season this coming year?

1886
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 5: Joe, I wouldn't And if they were trying to pitch

1887
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 5: dot Osella to this fan base, they wouldn't buy it.

1888
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 5: Why would you no? See I'm serious, I mean in

1889
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 5: feel free to answer, like, why would you know?

1890
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: For the reasons you laid out in that terrific article

1891
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: you roll over the weekend, it just has been flip flop,

1892
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: topsy turvy the entire way.

1893
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if Daniel Jones is the guy that got

1894
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 5: you to nine and eight, and if you make the

1895
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 5: playoffs with Daniel Jones, that's the guy you should be

1896
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: talking to about being your quarterback. I'm not saying that

1897
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 5: I would be gung ho about it, but yeah, like

1898
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 5: playing it, Daniel Jones, him playing well enough to get

1899
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 5: you a winning record, possibly into the playoffs and then

1900
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 5: pivoting back to the guy you benched for a second time. No,

1901
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 5: that would make no sense in the world to me.

1902
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 5: And I don't care what they tell me about whatever

1903
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 5: development plan they have. That to me is the part

1904
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 5: where I just can't get with it. What development plan

1905
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 5: in they might be able to really believe what they're

1906
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 5: trying to sell us, but historically it just never works

1907
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 5: that way with a guy who is your own guy.

1908
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 5: When you draft a guy and you bench him twice,

1909
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 5: and I guess to the second time it was open

1910
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 5: to competition, so technically not a benching he went back

1911
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 5: to the bench. Whatevertheless, semantics acide, what are you actually

1912
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 5: talking about?

1913
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will probably just say that sign me up

1914
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty six draft and see what happens

1915
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 3: ic quarterback if that hypothetical plays out. Jeff, Again, I've

1916
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 3: said this endlessly, but this day and age in the AFC,

1917
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 3: those band aids, it's like jumping in the pool at

1918
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 3: the band aid on.

1919
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes that, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, good.

1920
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Look, those ain't band aids, and they're young, they're not

1921
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: by the one anywhere.

1922
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: Maybe the best of all them, Lamar Jackson, and the.

1923
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 3: Last Like again, yes, you have your four that have

1924
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,919
Speaker 3: made the final four each of the last two years

1925
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: in Stroud and Lamar and Josh Allen, him Holmes. But

1926
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 3: still you have a Herbert, you have a Burrough you.

1927
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of wild you get into this

1928
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: Miami thing here in week one. It's amazing how different

1929
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 3: their record is with TUA and without I mean with

1930
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 3: Tua they are like a legit playoff I mean, hell,

1931
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 3: they made the playoffs twice in Mike mc daniel's first

1932
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 3: two years. If you're New England right now, you feel

1933
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: pretty good about Drake May obviously had a long ways

1934
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: to go, but again, the depth of this conference, you

1935
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: gotta go find one of those guys. And that's main

1936
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: screams twenty twenty six drafts, given everything that I have

1937
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 3: in front of me right here on August twenty sixth.

1938
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to Zach Ostaman about all this

1939
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: coming up in just a moment here as we continue

1940
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: taking your texts and phone calls. At two three, nine,

1941
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Speaker 2: ten seventy it's NFL cutdown day here on the fan.

1942
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: Been talking about the Colts all morning along here on

1943
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: the Fan Morning Show with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, jeff Rickord,

1944
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Mark dyked in on the ones and twos once again,

1945
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: just slamming it on the on the tunes today.

1946
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 7: This is a video that came on MTV on TRL

1947
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 7: or something, and like, I'd have to change the channel.

1948
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: My parents walk da.

1949
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 3: This is the kids marked or era.

1950
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I do feel like kids missed out

1951
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 5: on a good era when you.

1952
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 4: Had good Lord music channels. Yes, play the music videos

1953
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 4: all day?

1954
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1955
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Is that your theme for today?

1956
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 10: Mark?

1957
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Just like teenage music videos.

1958
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 4: I'm just going with like ladies that put out good music.

1959
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: There we go.

1960
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, Extina, well, good Lord. I had to change

1961
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 4: that channel.

1962
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Mighty car.

1963
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 5: I need a shirt that says good Lord. A little

1964
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 5: you know, Dash says by Mark.

1965
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 4: My mom would be like, what are you watching? Like

1966
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: just music videos? Mom? What is this?

1967
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 6: Hey?

1968
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 4: If Marx says good Lord, Christina do her thing. I

1969
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: can't help that. She's all in water. What's happening here?

1970
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1971
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 5: Well, if Mark says good Lord, the Lord is I'm

1972
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 5: expanding my musical taste.

1973
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Mom.

1974
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: In the other room. I'm busy. Later on the night

1975
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: storm taking on the Fever over at the Fieldhouse. You'll

1976
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: hear that game live at six forty five with the

1977
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: fan pregame show. Eddie Garrison and John Nolan has the

1978
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: play by play at seven. If you're going to the game,

1979
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: enjoy it. The Fever Nita win once again without Caitlin Clark,

1980
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: who's been unable to play because of injuries since the

1981
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: fifteenth of July. More on that coming up at a minute.

1982
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: It is cut down day in the NFL. We'll be

1983
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: keeping a close eye on the Colts. We've been talking

1984
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 2: about the Anthony Richardson situation and folks have been chiming

1985
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: in on the text line all morning long. Cody writes

1986
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: his take watch the manning cast. Peyton's on his couch

1987
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 2: and still lives and dies with every play. You can

1988
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: see and feel his love for the game with every

1989
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: play through the screen. He's retired and just watching AR

1990
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have that passion when he's on the

1991
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: field and probably in meetings, obviously, Peyton is one of one.

1992
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Even comparing AR to a guy on the rosters, like

1993
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: comparing him to Riley Leonard, he gets and I wonder

1994
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 2: if that's part of it too, especially a guy with

1995
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: so much inexperience at the position, maybe he could make

1996
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: up with it with just a burning desire to twenty

1997
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: four hours a day, every second of the day, try

1998
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to be better and smarter

1999
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 2: about it. And from the outside, it doesn't appear like

2000
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: that is necessarily the case. Is that fair? Maybe he's

2001
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: already been sat down because of that once.

2002
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I would say, and Kevin, you can speak

2003
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 5: to this at every turn this summer, Shane has said

2004
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 5: he has been doing those things as far as the

2005
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 5: working hard and going over tape and if you want

2006
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 5: to get to the audio that he kind of gave

2007
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 5: you yesterday when you're asking how he feels about his

2008
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 5: place in the franchise, Shane mentioned a lot of those

2009
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 5: things that apparently ar has been approaching the right way

2010
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 5: for the last holver many months. And so I don't

2011
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 5: know if that's necessarily a fair statement to how to

2012
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 5: assess him. Now Here's my question is how he used

2013
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 5: to be.

2014
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Is that a conscious decision for him which is important

2015
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 2: or just an organic need passion to do you see

2016
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: the difference?

2017
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I would have to ask Anthony

2018
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 5: richardson that question. I mean it's hard to it's always

2019
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 5: hard to get into the player's psyche and like their

2020
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 5: makeup because I don't really care which one it is.

2021
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 4: Just do it.

2022
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got Zach Ostman joined here in a few

2023
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 3: so I don't think we've got time necessarily to get

2024
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: even deeper into the conversation with the audio for those

2025
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 3: I know, we've hit the richardson topic a lot here

2026
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 3: in the last half hours, so if you're just joining us.

2027
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: The Colts didn't make a trade late last night. Mackai

2028
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 3: Blackman a corner that they have added here from the

2029
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. It was a sixth round pick they sent

2030
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 3: the Vikings there torn acl a first day of training

2031
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: camp last year, so former third round pick twenty twenty

2032
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 3: three played about half Minnesota snaps as a rookie. Did

2033
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 3: play in this year's preseason, but a five to eleven corner,

2034
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 3: so once again, size not really a big requirement for

2035
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 3: Louis Arumo. Sounds like can definitely play outside. Don't know

2036
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 3: how much slot background there is, but can go back

2037
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 3: to a conversation we had earlier in the show. I've

2038
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 3: never seen a ballad position group add more in an

2039
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: off season without departures. They're bringing back their top four

2040
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:34,799
Speaker 3: corners from last year, Kenny Moore, Jalen Jones, Samuel Wellmack

2041
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 3: crys La Monds, even Juju Brents played a little bit.

2042
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 3: And then if you look at what they've added former

2043
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 3: All Approachavarius Ward, former All Pro, and Xavier Howard, I know,

2044
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 3: justin Wally Towards acl that's a third round pick, and

2045
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 3: then Blackman a former third rounder. So now not all

2046
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 3: these guys are exactly you know right there. Obviously Howard

2047
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 3: didn't play football last year. Blackman didn't play football last year.

2048
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 3: So they've got a lot to prove. But just in

2049
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: general strictly resumes, I cannot recall any position group ever

2050
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 3: seen this much investment in one offseason.

2051
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Well that's uh lu an Arumo probably talking, as you

2052
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 2: pointed out, And you know, fewer linebackers, more secondary guys,

2053
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot of dime, a lot of nickel, and you

2054
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: just got to get pressure on the quarterback to make

2055
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 2: it all work. At the end of the day. It's

2056
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: great to have all those guys, but how many sacks

2057
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: they end up getting this year, That's how many pressures

2058
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: do they end up having? To me that's just as

2059
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: key as everything else.

2060
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,480
Speaker 4: Number one past defense in the preseason.

2061
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'll take it. Zach Ostraman joins us. Now

2062
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 2: you're laughing.

2063
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 3: I was serious, but I'm laughing.

2064
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm laughing with you, not at you.

2065
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm laughing at you.

2066
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Zach, are you laughing this morning? How are

2067
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,560
Speaker 2: things going for you?

2068
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: You got them laughing?

2069
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: But I can't complain, Zach Ostraman joins us. On the

2070
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 2: Payless Liquors Hotline cut down Day, any any thing that

2071
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 2: you think could be a surprise before it's all sudden done.

2072
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, I probably haven't followed it closely enough

2073
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 10: to be honest.

2074
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean from the cutting down.

2075
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, the cutting down in my sport happens in the

2076
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 10: winter for the most part.

2077
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: Now there's actually a lot of cuts. College athletic Zach

2078
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: Osmin from The Indie Star. Obviously, I you they're gonna

2079
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: get ready here Old Dominion coming up this weekend, game

2080
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 3: one of year two of the Signetti era. Let's just

2081
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 3: start with the Kurt Signetti personality, Zach. Obviously this year

2082
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 3: or last year at this time, you know, he went

2083
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: above and beyond from a talking standpoint, How would you

2084
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 3: compare the Signetti bravado lead into year one to what

2085
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 3: we've heard from him in those media sessions here leading

2086
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 3: into year two on the same meter or maybe not

2087
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 3: as full throttle.

2088
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've writen about Yes, I think other

2089
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: people have to.

2090
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 10: I think he's listen. There's there's an element to Signetti

2091
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 10: that that's just his personality, Like he not afraid to

2092
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 10: speak his mind, and he's you know, he's confident, and

2093
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 10: he's willing to be sort of publicly confident. But I

2094
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 10: I don't know that he feels that he's kind of

2095
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 10: got to you know, stir the pot to get it

2096
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 10: to boil this year the way that he did a

2097
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 10: year ago when he talked about you know, especially in

2098
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 10: the preseason, and of course some of what he says

2099
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 10: happens during the season, but a lot more of that,

2100
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 10: if you really think back to his first twelve months,

2101
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 10: happens before the season starts, in terms of you know,

2102
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 10: maybe just trying to kind of get his his team

2103
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 10: on side a little bit more than that I can

2104
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 10: get his fan base on side, get his fan based

2105
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 10: kind of gended up, and you know, really sort of

2106
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 10: you know, kind of believing in the project and the

2107
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 10: and the you know, the process and all those different

2108
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 10: kinds of things. You know, maybe he gets his wings

2109
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 10: clipped a little bit with what he says on game

2110
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 10: day before the Notre Dame game. But then the flip

2111
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 10: side is he also comes out after that game and says, hey,

2112
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 10: listen to better team one. You know, we got beat

2113
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 10: good today. That that, you know, he's not afraid to

2114
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 10: own basically when when it goes against him as well,

2115
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 10: I think I think more of it is just him

2116
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 10: knowing or him having the confidence that his rosters, certainly,

2117
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 10: but maybe even more than that, Like his fan base

2118
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 10: is his booster base, you know, his athletics department, all

2119
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 10: those sort of constituencies nobody needs convinced anymore, nobody needs,

2120
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 10: you know, kind of sparks to life in the same

2121
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 10: way because everybody can see what if they buy into

2122
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,440
Speaker 10: use the cliche the process, what the result.

2123
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Is, Zach.

2124
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 5: Obviously, as you've laid out and in a terrifect piece,

2125
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. In the Indie Star, the title of it

2126
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 5: being Indian football's monticipated season shows historic support. Yet who

2127
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 5: just haven't changed. One thing that has changed is the

2128
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 5: quarterback position Fernando Mendoz is now QB one. How much

2129
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 5: pressure do you think is on this guy to deliver?

2130
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 5: And also just how good is he because he has

2131
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 5: got some NFL rumblings.

2132
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, listen, there's certainly pressure to deliver if

2133
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 10: you consider what Indiana got out of the quarterback position

2134
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 10: a season ago.

2135
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: But I think that not that.

2136
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 10: Signetty's the ultimate qv whisper. But if you look at

2137
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 10: his recent history, I mean his last four at least

2138
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 10: his last four quarterbacks. I don't know if I can

2139
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 10: go all the way back to his SCSJMU days, but

2140
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 10: his last four quarterbacks involving transfers, and the first three

2141
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 10: were all conference. You know, Toddson Tao was I think

2142
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 10: Toddson Tao was Conference player of the year. Jordan McLoud

2143
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 10: was Conference Player of the Year. Of course, Rourke didn't

2144
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 10: quite get there last year, but he was second team

2145
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 10: All Big Ten and he was, you know, certainly considered

2146
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 10: one of the best quarterbacks in the Big Ten, if

2147
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 10: not in college football last season. And then you take

2148
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 10: Trenanamndza to your point, he comes in with some NFL buzz.

2149
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 10: I know there are some things that you know pargicularly

2150
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 10: about the way he delivers the ball. The NFL scouts like,

2151
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 10: I mean, he's the guy that threw the three thousand

2152
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 10: yards last season, and that was in front of an

2153
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 10: offense line that allowed forty one sacks. So you know,

2154
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 10: you don't it's never that simple, but there is at

2155
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 10: least a some element of imagine what he'll do in

2156
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 10: front of a better offensive line, maybe with a little

2157
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 10: bit more depth at the skill positions as well.

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01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: I think there's there's.

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01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 10: A lot of belief both in Mendoza and then also

2160
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 10: in the process that Kurt Signetti Mike Shanahan, who's been

2161
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 10: his offensive coordinator for several years now, have to take

2162
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 10: their offense and take whatever the you know, sort of

2163
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 10: the the underlying principles of how they get the ball

2164
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 10: of the perimeter, you know, RPO situations, things like that,

2165
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 10: and fit them to a different every different quarterback strengths.

2166
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 10: Because if you go back and look like Jordan McLoud

2167
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 10: was a lot more mobile than Curtis Rourke. Of course

2168
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 10: we had no idea Rourke was playing on a torn

2169
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 10: acl through most of last season. But the point is

2170
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 10: that's two different quarterbacks, that's two different ways of getting

2171
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 10: offense moving down the field and in the end zone,

2172
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 10: and the ultimate result is very very similar. I think there's,

2173
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 10: like I said, belief in Mendoza and some of the

2174
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 10: things that maybe he'll be able to again, particularly from

2175
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 10: a mobility perspective that Indiana just wasn't comfortable to it

2176
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 10: for work last season. But I also think that there's

2177
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,759
Speaker 10: there's also just leaf in the process that leads Indiana

2178
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 10: to be able to put quarterbacks in really good positions

2179
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:20,879
Speaker 10: to succeed.

2180
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: Zach Ostman, the Indie Star, joining us here talking about

2181
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: some college football Indiana. You wrote earlier, I guess last

2182
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: week that Indiana has become a straw man in the

2183
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Cold War over scheduling and the future of the playoff

2184
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 2: to its own detriment. Could you expand on that for

2185
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: us please?

2186
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2187
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 10: I mean, basically, Indiana has become and this was kind

2188
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 10: of recycled back into the news, and I don't know

2189
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 10: how much more we need to hear about it at

2190
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 10: this DIAF from the SEC side, but I grewubbed done

2191
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 10: there and they don't let things easily in the South sometimes,

2192
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 10: and it kind of got recycled back into the news

2193
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 10: when the SEC announced it was going to move to

2194
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:05,799
Speaker 10: nine conference games, and essentially Indiana has kind of become

2195
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 10: and this season maybe goes back to last season.

2196
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: That critics of the way the playoff is currently.

2197
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 10: Want to sort of point Indiana say, well, look at him,

2198
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 10: play anybody a nine when SEC team is better, the

2199
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 10: SEC's mass that it is better, the SEC's process is better.

2200
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 10: These are obviously unwinnable arguments because there is no perfect

2201
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 10: way to sort of solve them, but Indiana has kind

2202
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 10: of become the easy punching bag. And then of course

2203
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 10: that spends forward this summer into the debates of that

2204
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 10: Indiana's non conference scheduling philosophy cursing and he said, he

2205
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 10: says it SEC media or bigg and media.

2206
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: He gives a lot of people down South riled up.

2207
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 10: And the point I was trying to make is essentially

2208
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 10: Indiana doesn't have to go on so extreme pr offensive here,

2209
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 10: but it does need to recognize that where in the

2210
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 10: playoff conversation. And I don't think it's unfair for Indiana

2211
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 10: to see itself as a playoff contender. They were literally

2212
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 10: the playoff last year until they get far away from that,

2213
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 10: until they get you know, until their cod starts proving

2214
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 10: he can't hack it at that level, which is something

2215
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 10: Signetti has roundly sort of disproven across the course of

2216
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 10: his career. Indiana has got to think in those terms

2217
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 10: and with those ambitions, and if they're going to do that,

2218
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 10: they've got to recognize that fair or not perception in

2219
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 10: college athletics is the thing. And Ohio State or Michigan's

2220
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 10: going to get a pass that Indiana isn't. And certainly

2221
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 10: Georgia for example, which I believe plays in the non

2222
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 10: conference Charlotte Austin p and I'm struggling to remember the

2223
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 10: third team that isn't Georgia Tech. You know, certainly the

2224
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 10: kind of Indiana is not going to get the that

2225
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 10: a George is gonna get or you know, at Ole

2226
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 10: miss or whoever. And so the point I was trying

2227
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 10: to make is just Indiana kind of needs to start

2228
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 10: fighting its owner a little bit more on this unless

2229
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 10: you know, some of that is solved naturally, particularly if

2230
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 10: particularly just once the game start, because so much of

2231
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 10: it is just like we're all desperate for college football

2232
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 10: and we don't have any yet, and so we're looking

2233
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 10: for something to talk about. We're looking for something to,

2234
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 10: you know, something to sort of satisfy that appetite. But

2235
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 10: if you're Indiana, you know, let's say Indiana gets to

2236
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 10: selection Sunday in December ten and two and there's an

2237
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 10: SEC team there at.

2238
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Nine to three.

2239
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 10: Indiana is gonna be fighting the perceptions around its history.

2240
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 10: It's non confidence, schedule, things like that. There is an

2241
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 10: ability to kind of go on the offensive a little

2242
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 10: bit more, and I think Indiana, you know, maybe needs

2243
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 10: to consider doing that. But in the same breath, I

2244
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 10: think everyone recognizes the thing to speaks loudest is the

2245
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 10: results in the field. And if Indiana goes out and

2246
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 10: let's see what city win ten games, and you know,

2247
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 10: one of them is win at Iowa, the other ones

2248
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 10: a really impressive went home against Illinois, then you know,

2249
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 10: maybe maybe your red the may does speak a little

2250
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 10: bit more for itself. It's just it's sort of it's

2251
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 10: sort of saying, if Indiana is going to be a

2252
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 10: playoff contender, and it has every right to think of

2253
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 10: itself as one, because again it was in the playoff

2254
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 10: literally nine months ago, then it needs to act that

2255
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 10: way when it comes to public messaging, when it comes

2256
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 10: to the way that it defends itself against criticism, all

2257
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 10: those different kinds of things.

2258
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 3: It's been an value beat since I was an undergrad

2259
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 3: down there. He does great, great work and someone I

2260
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 3: admired back in the day that Zach Ostman from the

2261
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Star, Zach, if we could shift gears to basketball,

2262
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 3: It's pretty rare, honestly, but welcome to today's day and

2263
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 3: age where we ask more football questions in basketball when

2264
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 3: it comes to Indiana University, Darren Devrees and the Puerto

2265
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 3: Rico trip, grand takeaways, They're going to shoot a bunch

2266
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 3: of threes, and maybe some questions about defending teams that

2267
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 3: are bigger? Is that too simple of takeaways? What do

2268
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: you think about the three games down there?

2269
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I think I mean, listen, I think you

2270
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 10: could see Indiana was going to be a much more

2271
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 10: sort of three point shooting bend offense just by both

2272
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 10: the region's history and the way that he constructed this roster.

2273
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 10: I think, I think from Indiana's perspective, there's also again,

2274
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 10: if you want to look at the way this roster

2275
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 10: was constructed, there has been since kind of it all

2276
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 10: came together a pretty clear sort of hole in the

2277
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 10: sort of rim protection and rebounding sort of aspect. Now, Listen,

2278
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 10: the flip side is you can go too far in

2279
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 10: the other direction, and we can argue that maybe Indiana's

2280
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 10: done a little bit of that in the last couple

2281
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 10: of years. That you're never the blanket's never going to

2282
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 10: cover up over every single potential shortcoming or weakness. You

2283
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 10: only get thirteen scholarships in fifteen spots, so you're always

2284
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 10: going to have to give and take somewhere. Indiana, you know,

2285
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 10: can do different things to maybe mitigate the size disadvantage,

2286
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 10: and of course there will be nice when the threes

2287
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 10: don't fall. I think you saw certainly some of the

2288
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 10: excuse me, some of the pace that the Freeze talked

2289
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 10: about that in Puerto Rico. Now that was those games

2290
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 10: were played with a twenty four second shot clock, so

2291
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 10: they were naturally going to be faster. But you could

2292
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 10: just see Indiana really emphasizing not just let's get the

2293
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 10: rebound and throw it up the floor as fast as

2294
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 10: we can, but more, you know, pace in terms of

2295
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 10: multiple bodies getting down the floor, getting into a you know,

2296
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 10: a secondary transition offense that's meant to create a shot,

2297
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 10: even if it's not literally a transition opportunity. It is.

2298
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 10: It is something that capitalizes on a defense as disorganization,

2299
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 10: as it's recovering down the floor to create another opportunity.

2300
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 10: I think you see, you know, it's a very experienced team,

2301
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 10: and I know that sounds simplistic, but I think a

2302
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 10: lot of people are going to look at them and

2303
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 10: you know, kind of I think I think Kallas Massbo

2304
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 10: is looking at Indiana as brand new, which is fair

2305
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 10: because they haven't spent a lot enough time together. But

2306
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 10: there is just a lot of pure college basketball minutes, games, shots, rebounds, assists,

2307
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 10: whatever on that roster, and so I think you could

2308
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 10: see some of that experience manifest itself, especially in those

2309
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 10: those two comeback wins. And I think, listen, I mean,

2310
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 10: if you want the simplistic way I would, I would

2311
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 10: boil it down. It would basically be Indiana should get

2312
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 10: as much credit for its comebacks as it should get

2313
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 10: criticism for the reasons that it had to come back

2314
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 10: and the ways that it got itself into those holes.

2315
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 10: I think, you know, it's probably something that maybe we

2316
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 10: didn't talk as much about on that trip, but I

2317
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 10: didn't think Indiana started any of those three games, particularly well,

2318
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 10: and that's reflected a lot more in the two games

2319
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 10: against Mega Supervet. But I think that's that's something that

2320
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 10: Dereez has got to kind of think about, because you're

2321
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 10: obviously in a thirty second shot clock world not going

2322
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 10: to get the pace of the games to affect that

2323
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 10: kind of come back in the same way. But in general,

2324
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 10: I thought you saw some promising things from Indiana. I

2325
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 10: thought you recognized too that those games were not Indiana's

2326
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 10: greatest priority. I think that at the end of the day,

2327
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 10: what Debris wanted out of that tour more than anything

2328
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 10: else was the ten practices leading up where he could

2329
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 10: have his whole team on the floor together for full

2330
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 10: practices and instruction and installation and you know, just just

2331
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 10: working through a lot of different things so that when

2332
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,480
Speaker 10: the games do start mattering.

2333
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: The.

2334
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:34,560
Speaker 10: Terminology is secondhand, the chemistry between players is a lot stronger,

2335
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 10: and so I think it's there's also probably an element

2336
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 10: of trying not to read too much into those games,

2337
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 10: because I mean, it wouldn't shock me if Indiana was

2338
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 10: at the beach the morning of, you know, the Saturday game,

2339
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 10: the Saturday night game, for example. I don't think Debris

2340
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 10: was actively trying to lose the games, but I don't

2341
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 10: think he will have wanted the games to be so

2342
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 10: all consuming that he didn't get other, you know, benefits.

2343
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 10: His team didn't get other benefits from the trip as well,

2344
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 10: so you know, it was it was an interesting first look.

2345
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 10: I think Indiana's still got a lot to improve on,

2346
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 10: but I think it gives Debreeze and his staff a

2347
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 10: lot to chew on, you know, over these next few

2348
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:13,480
Speaker 10: weeks as they build up toward the proper preseason.

2349
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 2: All right, Zach, thanks so much. Get ready and bucket you.

2350
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 2: Buckle yourself in for Old Dominion, Kennesaw State and Indiana

2351
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 2: State over the next three weeks. Good luck, I'll do it.

2352
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me as always, Thanks, Zach, appreciate you.

2353
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 2: Zach austraman Indie star joining us here on the Payless

2354
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 2: Liquors Hotline. In the meantime, very quickly, let's check things down.

2355
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 9: Mark the morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one

2356
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 9: oh seven five.

2357
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 2: The Bad Colt's busy. Last night they picked up Makai Blackman,

2358
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: a safety from the Minnesota Vikings, in exchange for a

2359
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six to sixth rounder, and they make a

2360
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 2: bunch of cuts to get down to fifty three men

2361
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 2: by four o'clock today. James Boyd.

2362
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, just to clarify, believe, Mikayle Blackman has some safety background,

2363
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 5: but he's more of a cornerback, and so they're going

2364
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 5: to try to I think, wetch him into that.

2365
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 2: In the back room versatility day like.

2366
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think he could probably slot in possibly

2367
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 5: as like a backup slot cornerback behind kennymore of the

2368
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 5: second Whenevertheless, if he's coming in, that means somebody else

2369
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 5: might be going out. So at four o'clock today we

2370
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 5: should get more clarity, all.

2371
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: Right, Kevin Bowen, any insights on what we might see

2372
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 2: before the day is done, Yeah, I don't, I.

2373
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 4: Mean the future. Yeah, can give us some hard sir?

2374
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,759
Speaker 7: Do you accountable for it so often?

2375
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 2: That's why I ask.

2376
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 3: One O seven five of the fan dot com. I

2377
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 3: guess that's where I would sease some people to head

2378
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 3: their updated the fifty three men roster with the Blackman news,

2379
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 3: he ended up moving Chris Lamon's to off of it.

2380
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 12: Uh.

2381
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 3: He is a corner that could uh do the practice

2382
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 3: squad elevation thing. You elevate a couple guys, in the

2383
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 3: practice squad each game. It can do that, so you

2384
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 3: could opt for that. So again there's a lot of

2385
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 3: gymnastics involved with the roster. It will help fluctuate a

2386
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 3: few times a year over the next handful of days.

2387
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 3: But I don't know, James. Maybe I'm just person of

2388
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 3: the moment, but I don't recall a cut down that

2389
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 3: I had this much just kind of shrug of the shoulders.

2390
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of like big, big thoughts

2391
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 3: in terms of, Wow, that was a position that was

2392
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 3: really hard to cut down. It looks relatively straightforward to me.

2393
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 4: I would agree.

2394
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 5: My biggest thing would just be if there are some

2395
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 5: players who are going to get designated to go to

2396
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 5: IR INJURR reserve but also return for the season, who

2397
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 5: could those players be one of them? At least that

2398
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 5: comes to mind for me early on. It's possibly Jayleen

2399
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 5: carli As the linebacker is dealing with a right ankle injury,

2400
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 5: and I believe the last time I saw him personally

2401
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 5: he was in a boot. So could he be someone

2402
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 5: they automatically put on IR to bring back later in

2403
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 5: the year.

2404
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 7: Pick the powerball numbers, Kevin, I want to agree with

2405
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 7: that I'd be moving to the Burbs with Ian Brownsberg.

2406
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 3: And what is it an indoor golf?

2407
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 4: Indoor golf.

2408
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 2: I have not seen these yet.

2409
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 4: I need a tour. I need to see these things.

2410
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 3: I am g academy over there in Hendricks County.

2411
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: I live on Kevin's Colt's bold predictions. I'm looking forward.

2412
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 2: There you go, and he had a fever play. Later

2413
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: on tonight, they are currently in the eighth and final

2414
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 2: playoff spot where the season to end today. Of course

2415
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 2: it does not end today. They are nineteen and eighteen.

2416
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 2: They will it's the Seattle Storm. Later on tonight, seven

2417
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 2: o'clock tip over at the Fieldhouse six forty five airtime

2418
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 2: here at ninety three five one on seven to five.

2419
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 2: The fans and Eddie Garrison will have that. Also, Caitlyn

2420
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Clark being named Nike's newest signature athlete. She's got her

2421
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: own logo, she'll get her own shoe and eventually James

2422
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: Boyd her own clothing line.

2423
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait for the sneakers. Just drop the sneakers.

2424
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 5: I feel like we have all been itching and scratching

2425
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 5: for him, and yeah that she drop them, not her

2426
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 5: signature sneakers. No, those are like the Kobe you know,

2427
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 5: player player exclusive Rookie of the Year I believe is

2428
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 5: what she dropped recently. But yeah, give us the Kaitlyn

2429
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 5: Clark exclusive sneakers, James.

2430
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 3: It'd be disappointing if they missed the playoffs.

2431
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 5: It would be I think so, because just looking back

2432
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 5: at where the season started with somebody's expectation on competing

2433
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 5: for a championship, missing the playoffs entirely would certainly be

2434
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 5: a big blow.

2435
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 4: But also we would understand it.

2436
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 5: This is not necessarily a scenario where you envisioned all

2437
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 5: of your players getting heard, and the main one being

2438
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 5: Kaitlin Clark, but some big ones coming up, and I

2439
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: do think they're still going to fight, scratching claw try

2440
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 5: to get there, because that's what we see from this

2441
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 5: team all year.

2442
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 2: All right across the hall and he had a pacer.

2443
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of coaching news yesterday, Kevin Bowen,

2444
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:26,719
Speaker 2: what's going on there?

2445
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this was kind of the assumption that

2446
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 3: they would just bump Jim Boiling up to the front

2447
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 3: of the bench. He's been i want to say, the

2448
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 3: last two years. Definitely last year with the team. Obviously

2449
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 3: former NBA head coach. Certainly, Marks remembers his days with

2450
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 3: the Bulls. There also the Jazz and he was an

2451
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 3: assistant about a decade ago with the Pacers. I did

2452
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 3: I miss the joke?

2453
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 7: Well, no better assistant, a better assistant than he was

2454
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 7: a head coach in Chicago. There's rumors he had a

2455
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 7: legit punch card clock.

2456
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: That's been going on since Phil Jackson or that, yeah,

2457
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 2: ever since the.

2458
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 3: United Center at their remember and punching my cart in

2459
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 3: or finish line warehouse and Plump Craik back in.

2460
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 4: The day two seasons for Boyling going to your number three.

2461
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, he'll be bumped to the front of the

2462
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: bench with Lloyd Pierce, Jenny Boosik and that Mike Winer

2463
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 3: news from Friday. There Johnny Carpenter who the Pacers are adding,

2464
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: he's got some ties Eva ties to Rick car loows

2465
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 3: with him in Dallas briefly. Also the Pacers a couple

2466
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 3: of years ago during training camp. So they have filled

2467
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:29,759
Speaker 3: the Mike Winer news.

2468
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, Cubs were off yesterday, but the Dodger

2469
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,600
Speaker 2: shut out the red seven nothing card. Well, where are

2470
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 2: you gonna go beat the pirates?

2471
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: Stop it?

2472
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 2: Beat the Pirates seven six. Wilson Contreras got thrown out

2473
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 2: of that game arguing balls and strikes and threw a

2474
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: bat at one point in time that clipped his own

2475
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: coach instead of just like moving off to the side

2476
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: in frustration.

2477
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 7: The Pat Murphy the potato pancake or whatever it was,

2478
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 7: pocket pancake that saved his life. Maybe maybe when he

2479
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 7: hit Pat Murphy with the bats, it just clipped him

2480
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 7: as he was kind of just starting it. He was

2481
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 7: being held back and the bat went flying.

2482
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 2: And the funny thing was, I'm looking at that cult strike.

2483
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 2: It looked like it was a cult strike. It looked

2484
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: like it was a strike to now.

2485
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 7: I mean, if Williams anything like his brother Wilson, that

2486
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 7: doesn't matter.

2487
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:16,839
Speaker 4: He will argue anything.

2488
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 2: All right, what else can we tell you? That's pretty

2489
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 2: much it. The Indians are back at home to night

2490
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: Victory Field. They'll take on the Buffalo Bison at six

2491
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 2: thirty five.

2492
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 5: I would say shout out. Since Terry McLaurin the local product,

2493
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 5: he gets a massive extension with the Commanders three years,

2494
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 5: ninety six million dollars. Trey Hendrickson, also not too far

2495
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 5: away over in Cincinnati, gets at a raise for his

2496
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 5: one year with Cincinnati, no extra years on his deal,

2497
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 5: but gets thirty million dollars this year to play it

2498
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 5: out with the Bengals.

2499
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 4: Who you know.

2500
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 5: I think they're going into that season kind of with

2501
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 5: an all or nothing approach, paying their guys and trying

2502
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 5: to see if they can capture some glory with this

2503
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 5: one year window.

2504
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 7: I would imagine it seems like all eyes turned to

2505
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 7: Dallas now with Mike Arsons. Are you gonna get a

2506
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 7: deal done? Are you gonna sit out? Or what's going

2507
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 7: on there?

2508
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2509
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 4: Land on the scorers table or land on the training table.

2510
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 5: Whatever that was probably wasn't the best look, but I

2511
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 5: understand it because it seems like there has been some

2512
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 5: just weird negotiations going on, particularly on the part of

2513
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones. Yes, Jerry, you have to talk to the agent,

2514
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 5: like legally you should do that.

2515
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't have the patience Jack with you today.

2516
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like the ESPN talk shows in

2517
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 2: the morning desperately need that to go on for at

2518
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 2: least another week.

2519
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 7: Do we get Oh yeah, we're in the doldrums now.

2520
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 7: So aside from cut day, they need some content. So

2521
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones would be happy to oblige.

2522
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in just a moment, we will

2523
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 2: hear some of the words that Shane Steichen had to

2524
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: say yesterday about the situation with the Indianapolis Colts, their

2525
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 2: quarterback and everything moving forward. We'll do that as we

2526
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: continue ninety three to five and one on seven.

2527
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: We get to suck on that all week.

2528
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday morning, and welcome into our little round table

2529
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: today as we get ready for the Indianapolis Colts to

2530
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 2: make some decisions. Four o'clock is when they are due

2531
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 2: NFL cut down day. We've been talking about that all

2532
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 2: day long, but also been talking about Shane Stikeen and

2533
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: how things have been handled quarterback position, some of the

2534
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 2: things he had to say at his press conference yesterday.

2535
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 2: Kevin Boonen, Yeah, he.

2536
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 3: You know, James, I guess we hadn't really gotten maybe

2537
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 3: too deep into the mean. Steven Holder honestly had the

2538
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 3: reporting this last week about Anthony Richardson, and you know,

2539
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 3: I forget the exact phrasing. What maybe we have a

2540
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 3: lot to think about, I think is what his agent said,

2541
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 3: Derek Jackson.

2542
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:31,839
Speaker 4: He used the word trust.

2543
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, trust had been.

2544
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,879
Speaker 4: Trust this questionable right now with the organization.

2545
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 3: So you know, I just asked Shane something to the

2546
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 3: effect of, hey, has Anthony come to you in any

2547
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 3: conversations with doubts about where he is at right now,

2548
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 3: current standing with in the franchise, things like that. This

2549
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 3: was Shane Stikeen's response to that yesterday afternoon.

2550
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I've had conversations with him. Obviously, he's

2551
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 8: our backup quarterback right now and still attacking it the

2552
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 8: right way, coming in being a pro, getting in here early,

2553
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 8: taking care of his body, rehab treatment, and then in

2554
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 8: the QB room preparing like you're the starter. I think

2555
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 8: we've got a great QB room with the really bright

2556
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 8: minds in there and everyone kind of ping pongs off

2557
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 8: each other. And then on the practice field making sure

2558
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 8: he's working on his fundamentals and details, you know, running

2559
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 8: the scout team, making sure that's on point and getting

2560
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 8: better there. And then obviously when meetings are over, you know,

2561
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 8: making sure we're watching cut ups, third down, red zone,

2562
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 8: all those things throughout the week, knowing that you know,

2563
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 8: he's one play away from playing.

2564
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 3: Jeff, I think that was the first time you had

2565
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 3: heard that, You're Yeah, I guess I was on a

2566
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 3: plane I'll go to you first, your thoughts upon hearing

2567
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 3: that the first time.

2568
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 2: All the stuff that goes on with your number four

2569
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: overall pick from a couple of years ago in his

2570
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 2: own psyche, when he is the starter, then he's not

2571
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 2: the starter, then he pulls himself out of the game,

2572
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: and then he's the starter again, and then they bring

2573
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 2: in Daniel Jones, and now he's not the star again.

2574
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 2: At some point in time, you can keep saying from

2575
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 2: your perspective as the Colts, hey, he's still our number

2576
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 2: four guy. He just needs more time to develop and

2577
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 2: he's one play away and that's all good. But at

2578
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 2: a certain point, how does Anthony Richardson feel about himself

2579
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 2: as a quarterback and how he feels the Colts view

2580
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 2: him at some point in time? Like that all plays

2581
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 2: into it at some point, doesn't it.

2582
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you hit the you know, nail in

2583
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 5: the head right there, because that is what the money

2584
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 5: question is in my opinion for Chris Ballot tomorrow.

2585
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 4: What is your plan?

2586
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 5: Your plan right now is to win with Daniel Jones,

2587
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 5: and I can understand why you would make that pivot.

2588
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 5: I'm not here to say that Anthony Richardson has been

2589
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 5: a good quarterback in the NFL. He's been a bad

2590
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 5: quarterback largely in the NFL. So the idea that you

2591
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 5: want to pivot away from that makes sense. However, that

2592
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 5: decision is not made in a vacuum. There are still

2593
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 5: other implications of that. And so if you pivot off

2594
01:57:56,720 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 5: of him for a second time, One do you sell

2595
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 5: him on whatever plan you're you're giving him?

2596
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 4: And two? What is the plan?

2597
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 5: I mean, why isn't I go back to how it

2598
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 5: was when he got benched the first time? Kevin and

2599
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 5: he could just never And it's is shame I'm talking

2600
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 5: about when I reference he He could never explain whatever

2601
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,879
Speaker 5: process Anthony Richardson is going through. He just says process

2602
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 5: like we're supposed to believe in some vague term, And

2603
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 5: I get that, Yeah, it involves film study and you know,

2604
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 5: coming in early and watching cutups. But like all that stuff,

2605
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 5: we already know. So what tangibly specific to Anthony Richardson

2606
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 5: is different about whatever process he's going through because what

2607
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 5: he's given us is answers that I could tell you,

2608
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm not in that room every day.

2609
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about being a quarterbacks coach. Or

2610
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 5: being a head coach. So what can you what insight

2611
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 5: can you give us? It isn't just some you know,

2612
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 5: rudimentary stuff that we can google, if that makes sense.

2613
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: What you hope is that Anthony Richardson is just mentally

2614
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 2: strong enough to say, look, I don't know what the

2615
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 2: Colts really think about keep jerking me around here. From

2616
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 2: his perspective, all I know is at some point in time,

2617
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will probably miss some time, whether it's a quarter,

2618
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 2: whether it's two games, something along those lines. That's how

2619
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 2: the NFL works these days. All he can do is

2620
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 2: say to himself, you know what, I don't know what

2621
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 2: my future is with the Golts. I don't even know

2622
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 2: if I want to be here. I don't even know

2623
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 2: if I'm their guy. All I know is that when

2624
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 2: I have my next chance, I'm going to prove to

2625
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 2: somebody out there who wants to love me that I

2626
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 2: can play quarterback in the National Football League. That's what

2627
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 2: you hope happens.

2628
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way, he kind of did that last

2629
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 5: year briefly obviously, when he got benched and he came back.

2630
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 5: The first game back, he had the best game of

2631
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 5: his career and that dramatic went over the Jets, and

2632
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 5: I believe that might have been, in my opinion, the

2633
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 5: most complete performance for Anthony outside of a few moments

2634
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 5: here or there in other games. But it's also a

2635
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 5: huge gamble in a way because Anthony is so up

2636
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 5: and down throughout his career, as you can't bank on

2637
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 5: him proven to anybody that he can be an NFL

2638
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 5: starting quarterback right now, So there are certain only a

2639
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 5: lot to unpacked there, and I look forward to talking

2640
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 5: to Chris Ballad tomorrow more about this. It's funny because

2641
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 5: again he meets with us about the or at least

2642
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 5: the thought is, you meet right after the cutdown date

2643
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 5: talk about the roster, but I guarantee you if we

2644
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 5: get Chris ballot for thirty minutes, twenty eight of those

2645
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 5: minutes are going to be by Anthony Richardson.

2646
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 3: You think that answer is just a nothing burger from

2647
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen.

2648
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people on the text line do.

2649
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 5: Yelling at Initially in the moment, I thought yes, But honestly,

2650
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 5: I think he was kind of getting at all the

2651
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 5: things that he wants him to do, and you know,

2652
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 5: I thought that was a little bit more than what

2653
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 5: he's given in the past, and maybe I'm just like

2654
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 5: desperate for something, but you know, watching the red zone

2655
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 5: cut ups and you know, staying later, getting there early.

2656
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 5: I think these are all things that he's like, he's

2657
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 5: probably thinking.

2658
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 3: So he's mentioning that because Anthony was not doing them,

2659
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 3: is that what you're inferring?

2660
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 5: Not necessarily, I think what I'm inferring is that, Okay,

2661
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 5: he's doing them now. Maybe I don't know when I

2662
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 5: say not, I don't know if he's not not been

2663
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 5: doing them as of late, but perhaps this wasn't the

2664
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 5: case last year or going to this season, whatever the

2665
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 5: case may be.

2666
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 4: But now that he is doing them, he just wants

2667
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 4: to see more of that. That's kind of where I'm at.

2668
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 5: But again that I have to speculate because I don't

2669
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 5: we haven't been given any clarity.

2670
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 4: And then to give some grace to Shane.

2671
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 5: Whenever we have kind of asked, and I have done

2672
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 5: this one on one with Anthony Richison, what could you

2673
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 5: tangibly have done different last year or what have your

2674
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 5: teams we've done different this year?

2675
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 4: There's not a clear answer. Their ease are on his side.

2676
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 4: He's just like, well, I gotta do more. What does

2677
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 4: that mean? Coming?

2678
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 5: Can anybody in this organization just give real answers more?

2679
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 5: What does that mean? It's like the Kobe Bryant commercial

2680
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 5: with Kanye West a few years ago. What do you

2681
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 5: need from me, mama? Mentality?

2682
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 2: More?

2683
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 4: More means what explain that?

2684
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2685
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 4: I probably aged well, right.

2686
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I'll say they're clear of the

2687
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 5: Kanye West conversation. Yes, not age very well.

2688
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 2: Mark.

2689
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 3: Look at this text line and honestly, I had this

2690
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 3: tweet probably a handful of times yesterday of Shane listening

2691
02:01:56,840 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 3: to Stikens like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher. Like we

2692
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 3: mentioned this about an hour ago. I don't know if

2693
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 3: I've seen the fan base this fed up with Stichen.

2694
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 3: And you know right now you're in a very much

2695
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,080
Speaker 3: of a Hey, you just evaluate him off of public settings,

2696
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 3: because you know you don't play games until week from Sunday,

2697
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 3: and you know that's when the truer evaluation is going

2698
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 3: to be. But it just seems like there is a growing,

2699
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 3: growing level frustration, largely based off the public comments from Psychen.

2700
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 3: And again I have said this for any coach, because

2701
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 3: obviously coaches handled the media very very differently, you know,

2702
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 3: Darren Devrees versus kurtz Aignetti. But you know, those are

2703
02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 3: two different people when it comes to a media standpoint here.

2704
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 3: You know, Rick Carlisle to Shane Stikeen two very different

2705
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 3: people when it comes to the media. And my question

2706
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 3: has always been what is happening behind the scenes, and

2707
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,839
Speaker 3: when Shane last year expressed regret and how he handled

2708
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 3: some of that stuff and the messaging not necessarily getting

2709
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 3: through to the players and the standard that he wants

2710
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 3: out of his operation not being met, that's when it

2711
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 3: becomes a big issue. And so I think it is

2712
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 3: fair to question that from Shane Steikeen right now in

2713
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 3: that he regretted it last season. And then you have

2714
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson's own team being frustrated by some of the

2715
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 3: public messaging around him. And I'm not maybe speaking to

2716
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 3: the answer we just heard right there, but the lack

2717
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 3: of transparency in front of a closed door is one thing.

2718
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 3: The lack of transparency behind a closed door when it's

2719
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 3: not resonating with your team is also a question. Right now,

2720
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 3: do the Colts have a head coach or do they

2721
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 3: have an offensive coordinator as head coach?

2722
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 7: That's the teacher talking and Charlie Brown, Like, do they

2723
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 7: have a head coach slash leader of men or do

2724
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 7: they have an offensive coordinator who has head coach duties.

2725
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 5: Or do they have Charlie Brown's teacher as Mark was

2726
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 5: alluding to. Yeah, yeah, I think that is the money

2727
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 5: question as well. Another money question is I think it can.

2728
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 3: You have to strike such a balance of like and

2729
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 3: again this gets into the head coaching debate. Do you

2730
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 3: hire a guy that's going to delegate Dan Campbell, Mike Tomlin,

2731
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 3: John Harball, or you can hire someone that's gonna be

2732
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 3: super hands on, mostly offensively Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid.

2733
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 3: You know, you can find different sides of it that

2734
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 3: have had great success. Yea, And today's NFL Shane Syching

2735
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 3: is more of the offensive side of it.

2736
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 2: But the other guys you mentioned on that list though

2737
02:04:45,160 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 2: a pretty good leaders of men too.

2738
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, but you know they were initially hired

2739
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 3: more for that offensive background. I mean that's why Shane

2740
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 3: was hired Shane. If Shane Syking had the exact same

2741
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 3: reme resumes a defensive guy, he would not have been

2742
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 3: the higher here. No chance he was hired because you

2743
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 3: couldn't figure out quarterback for years, and they wanted to

2744
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 3: hire a guy that will work with Jalen Hurst and

2745
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert and Philip Rivers. And right now, two and

2746
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 3: a half years into it, the quarterback position still has

2747
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 3: the same questions it did two and a half years

2748
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 3: ago when you hired them. That's not good.

2749
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 2: I coming up in a moment. We will finish up

2750
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 2: with some final thoughts. Get ready for cut down day,

2751
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 2: look ahead to what is on tap for everybody this

2752
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 2: evening here on a Tuesday, it's ninety three five or

2753
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 2: one o seven to five of the Fan. I'm right

2754
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 2: to wrap it up here on this Tuesday morning. The

2755
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 2: Indiana Fever will play tonight against the Seattle Storm. That

2756
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 2: one comes your way at seven o'clock. You can hear

2757
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 2: it live by to get six forty five here at

2758
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 2: ninety three five, one oh seventy five the Fan on

2759
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 2: our fan pregame show with Eddie Garrison. Before we get

2760
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 2: out of here too, let's check the phone lines one

2761
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 2: more time, two three, nine, ten seventy. Good Jimmy being

2762
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 2: patient through the break. I appreciate that, Jimmy, you are

2763
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 2: on the air.

2764
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 6: Good morning, Jeff, Good moilliing KB, good Mollion JB. And

2765
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 6: but not least good morning Mark. How are you guys

2766
02:05:59,520 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 6: doing a way?

2767
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh good to hear from you.

2768
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 3: What's up?

2769
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: Hey two?

2770
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 6: Dangel Frank one, he said, directed directly my friend Kevin

2771
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 6: Bowen goe cage be the Irish?

2772
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 2: Whoa you haven't just said we thought it was good?

2773
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 3: Jimmy, Jimmy, I might be smashing your mailbox. And then

2774
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 3: if you keep this up, young man, you don't go

2775
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 3: there on me. I cannot wait. Well, I'm not I'm

2776
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 3: gonna if you don't have anything nice to say, don't

2777
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,920
Speaker 3: say anything at all. Hey, I wrote that, I wrote

2778
02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 3: that where are you going with this? There's no way

2779
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 3: you were close for the dig right?

2780
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I did have a respectful thing to

2781
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 6: say about the Irish. I won't say that your two

2782
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 6: had a monster. I run your back.

2783
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 10: It gives me nightmares.

2784
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 2: There we go.

2785
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 6: I'm uh, I'm I'm I'm pulling for my cane. But

2786
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,880
Speaker 6: if you're Irish win, I will be a good friend

2787
02:06:55,920 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 6: and congratulate you. So there's that. But also, I just

2788
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 6: wanted to make your time and the wolt real quick.

2789
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: Guys.

2790
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,880
Speaker 6: Everyone is showing dirt and writing your victuary and Anthony

2791
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 6: Richardson and I just been I'd been like as long

2792
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 6: as he could, you know, staying with it mentally. I

2793
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 6: think that seemed to be the hardest thing for him

2794
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 6: and and I wish him the best. I just want

2795
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 6: to hosted you well. As you guys know, I was

2796
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 6: a training camp at this season and there's a life

2797
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 6: full and yeh, that's all I got you guys, have

2798
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 6: a great morning. Great to talk to you.

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02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 1: Thanks.

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02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate that I always get to hear from Good Jimmy,

2801
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 2: especially when he's taking shots uh early in the morning

2802
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 2: to any of us.

2803
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 3: And Mark Dacton could learn a thing or two from Jimmy.

2804
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 3: Always great to hear your voice, you know, if you

2805
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 3: want to live in a Richardson world. James Boyd and

2806
02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 3: you grabbed the cup. That's super half. Probably his best

2807
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 3: stretch of his pro as a pro came after he

2808
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 3: got bench last year.

2809
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 4: I think it's probably out of it.

2810
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 3: It was absolutely his best stretches, best stretch as a

2811
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 3: pro came after he got bench.

2812
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 5: That's what Good Jimmy is kind of alluding to, is

2813
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 5: you know, hey, don't right Daniel Jones.

2814
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean really, you know it was the back injury

2815
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 3: that took him off the field. Yeah, last year, late

2816
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 3: in the season he the Denver game was definitely not good.

2817
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 3: But you know, New England, the Jets big time moments

2818
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 3: on the road, delivering for your football team when you

2819
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 3: had you know, before you got to the Denver game,

2820
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 3: you had to get there with those other wins. So again,

2821
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 3: it's probably reaching for a little bit glass half full,

2822
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 3: but I believe Anthony Rison will get one more shot

2823
02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 3: at it.

2824
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 5: I do think again, if they start off like two

2825
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 5: and three, one and two, one and three, you could

2826
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 5: get very loud for the anthy Richardon getting back.

2827
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 3: You think that quickly. You think Shane would bail that early.

2828
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 4: If they started one to three.

2829
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 5: Maybe not one and two, but there are two games

2830
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 5: under five hundred through four games or a month in

2831
02:08:59,520 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 5: the season.

2832
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 7: YEA look up the Joe Flacco quot where they said

2833
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 7: they're going to ride with Joe Flacco the rest of

2834
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 7: the season and then how long was it?

2835
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 2: Three weeks?

2836
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 4: Then they went back to two weeks, fourteen days.

2837
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 3: I think I think the least will be longer for

2838
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:10,960
Speaker 3: Jones and it was for Flacco.

2839
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 4: That's fair.

2840
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gary and Nobles fifteen days says, any chance you

2841
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 2: guys can say hi to my son Ashton, he's home

2842
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:20,160
Speaker 2: sick from school. We're watching you on YouTube. Ashton, how

2843
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 2: you doing man, Ashton?

2844
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 3: Hope you're feeling better?

2845
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 1: Man?

2846
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ashton, hope you feel better.

2847
02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 5: And shout out to your parents letting you stay home

2848
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 5: from school because you're sick. Because my parents never let

2849
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 5: me stay home when I was sick, because in their mind,

2850
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 5: kids didn't get sick.

2851
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 4: They just got sick of going to school. And you

2852
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 4: were gonna go, James, is what they told me.

2853
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 2: Fever of one hundred and two.

2854
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 3: Get up and get go.

2855
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 4: But shout out to Ashton, man, I hope you're having

2856
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 4: a good day, but better.

2857
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 2: That's Gary soup?

2858
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: Is that?

2859
02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 2: Gary Deacon?

2860
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 3: Love me some Gary Deacon? If it is this from Brant,

2861
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 3: big old accident I sixty nine South, I feel like

2862
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 3: that's an annual day thing. But sixty nine shut down

2863
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 3: between Hamilton Town Center and one sixteenth that's a big

2864
02:09:56,040 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 3: old shutdown. If indeed so, Fisher's area north east side

2865
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 3: of town or watchouts.

2866
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 2: Stay away, uh DJ and Indy speaks for the prostration

2867
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 2: of many many textures and fans today when he talks

2868
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,680
Speaker 2: about that it's just time to let go. He's tired

2869
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 2: of what he perceives the arrogant attitude of Chris Ballard

2870
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 2: dumpster fire after dumpster fire. It's just time to let

2871
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 2: go and move on, he says.

2872
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 4: We'll see.

2873
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 5: We'll certainly get some answers after this season. They have

2874
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 5: one more year together at least, and they have bet

2875
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 5: it on Daniel Jones, and so we will see how

2876
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 5: much that bet cash is in.

2877
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 7: I think the leash will be long for Daniel Jones.

2878
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,800
Speaker 7: When it comes to Shane Steigen. I think the leash

2879
02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:39,400
Speaker 7: is short when it comes to fans patience this year,

2880
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 7: I think absolutely wits end for the Colts. Fans are like,

2881
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 7: enough is a night. The second of this gets ugly,

2882
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 7: we are booing, we are not showing up. We are

2883
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:49,560
Speaker 7: going to voice our frustrated The kid at the mall has.

2884
02:10:49,480 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 3: Broken the leash. He's on the loose. That's exactly where

2885
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 3: Colts fans are at right now, candy store with Shane Steikeen.

2886
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 2: If they come out of the gate and beat Miami

2887
02:10:58,560 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 2: in Denver, Now, what are we talking about?

2888
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 3: You carry Daniel Jones back to his beautiful state. You

2889
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 3: build a statue, Yeah, you might take Peyton's statue down. Look,

2890
02:11:08,200 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 3: it's one of those dictators overseas. And then you build

2891
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Joneses.

2892
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 2: Somebody will throw his jersey on the Peyton Manning statue

2893
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:16,840
Speaker 2: over there at Lucas. Would be good to go after

2894
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:17,400
Speaker 2: two games.

2895
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you got a great gift in week one.

2896
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 3: You see Miami's kickers out for a month plus two.

2897
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 3: I mean, like, there are so many things in your

2898
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:29,240
Speaker 3: corner for week one. Their secondary obviously he has had major,

2899
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:32,400
Speaker 3: major questions. So I mean, hell, the Colts are favored

2900
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 3: in week one?

2901
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 4: What if they go too and one in the first three. Again,

2902
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 4: that's better than what they've done.

2903
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I mean, aren't they They will probably

2904
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:42,160
Speaker 3: be favored, right and two of those first three. I'm

2905
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 3: looking at the schedule next to James mart You're gonna

2906
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 3: be favored at Tennessee.

2907
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 4: You think so, I would think so.

2908
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 3: Don't think a rookie quarterback is going to be doing that.

2909
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:51,640
Speaker 2: So all right, great job again spinning the tunes this morning,

2910
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 2: Mark Dyke didn't thank you, a little upset with your

2911
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:58,160
Speaker 2: consistent attacks on Kevin and the Reds all the time

2912
02:11:58,280 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame.

2913
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 4: Thanks for the audio. It wasn't me.

2914
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 2: All right. Jay Query comes your way at noon with

2915
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 2: very latest from the Cults. JMV, of course, will be

2916
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 2: on the air live when NFL cut day deadline comes

2917
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 2: at four. We'll be here all day on ninety three

2918
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 2: five and one A seven five the Fan. Thanks for listening,

2919
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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow morning.