1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from dall Hertbland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: I have got the Secretary of State in France. He 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: is at the g seventh Summit, the seven most developed economies, 5 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: just getting together, having themselves some lunch and talking about 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: how to engage world domination. All right, I don't think 7 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: that happens. But the lunch part I'm pretty sure about. 8 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, guys, good to be with you, Good 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: to be here. Find everything at Tony kats dot com. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Then the President is gonna be at the White House. 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Is it National Agriculture Day? Is that the official name 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: of the day, And there's gonna be a conversations with farmers, 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: but he knows this is gonna be a conversation about 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Iran and a ten day pause, now that's right, an 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: additional ten day pause. And then of course his executive 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: order saying we're gonna pay the TSA agents. 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: Can you do that? 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: The executive order direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: pay the TSA agents. And then the next thing, you know, 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: here come Democrats and Republicans will say, you know what, 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: we'll fund the DHS, not the whole of DHS. We 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: won't fund ice and border patrol, but ice is funded 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: through the one big beautiful bill. So what really is 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: the loss here? Democrats didn't get any of their reforms, 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: Yet somehow I've got media painting this, phrasing this positioning 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: this that. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: It was a huge win for the Democrats. No one 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: is surprised the press would do this. Huh. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Shocking, shocking indeed. So there is a lot to get into. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: And when Secretary Rubio starts, I'm gonna bring it to him. 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: When President Trump starts, I'm gonna bring it to him. 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: But this whole idea of winning and losing, we can 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: break down a couple different ways, but let's start where 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: we start. If the argument after not paying Americans for 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: forty one days for doing a job, If the argument 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,279 Speaker 2: after disrupting the lives of Americans, whether they be passengers, 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: whether they be those who work at airports, whether they 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: be those who work for airlines gate staff, or flight 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: attendants or pilots. If after all of this and all 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: the disruptions people had, and the issues with hospitality and 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: hotels and restaurant reservations missed and family events missed, and 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: if After all of that, the big question is who won, 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Republicans or Democrats? 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: We suck. It's nonsense. This is the argument. 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer putting out a statement, I'm so proud of 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: my caucus. 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: We held the line, what line, the line that. 49 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: We support as Democrats, illegal immigrants staying in the country 50 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: and being opposed to ICE being able to. 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: Operate at all. 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: And if we had our way, we to get rid 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: of ICE all together, we wouldn't support a soul because 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: we want those voters. Was that the wind, chuck? I mean, 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: admittedly you could argue that this is more of a 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: wind than the way you make cheeseburgers. But is that 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: the wind, chuck? Because that's the basis every single part 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: of what you saw of forty one days. And by 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: the way, the House has got to vote and pass 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: what it is that the Senate passed. 61 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: Every part of this was not about. 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Americans' lives, American's future, American safety, the American economy. It 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: was about allowing people who are here illegally to have 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: the opportunity to engage in voter fraud. 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: Every last bit of it. Oh, call me any name 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: you want. 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Eight three three got tony eight three, three, four, six 68 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: eight eight six six'. 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: NINE i am happy to debate. 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: It WHEN i say, DEBATED i mean laugh at any 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: commentary that says, otherwise because there is no. Debate AND 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: i put forth to you THAT i think americans see. 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: It and this is the part WHERE i differ than my, 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 2: colleagues fellow radio. 75 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: Hosts maybe not all of, them but enough of. 76 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: THEM i see a lot of people discussing How republicans 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: are going to get slaughtered in the, midterms destroyed in 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: in the, midterms just eliminated and abused in the. Midterms 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: maybe standard thought would absolutely bring you. 80 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: There the party in power is going to. LOSE i 81 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: don't think that this is a. 82 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Surprise to, anyone BUT i have laid out pathways For 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: republicans to have victory here. 84 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: In this. 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Shutdown When democrats started pushing the, idea, well we'll just 86 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: fund THE. Tsa, here here's a, Bill we'll fund THE. 87 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: Tsa come, on let's fund THE. Tsa let's get these lines, 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: short and let's get people going where they're. 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Going let's fund THE. 90 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Tsa And republicans, said, no we're gonna fund The department 91 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Of Homeland. Security we're not gonna play this game with. 92 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: YOU i, said, Well republicans are gonna lose this. Battle 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: Because republicans should have been jumping on this much. Earlier 94 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: they could have taken advantage of. It they didn't because 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: they're not good at doing those. Things they're afraid of 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: doing those. Things whatever it. Is and here come The 97 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: democrats with this. Plan, well all, Right democrats are gonna 98 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: steal their. Thunder they're gonna steal the whole. Story and that's. 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: It that was two weeks. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Ago they didn't steal. Anything they didn't steal anything at. 101 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: All it didn't. Work it didn't capture the attention to 102 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: The american. People there was no drum beat about this 103 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: from The american, press like it was a non. 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Starter democrats had a moment and it didn't. 105 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: Work And i'm. Sorry i'm stuck on the. Why and 106 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: the only Thing i've been able to come to about 107 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: the why is the same THING i come to Regarding 108 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: republicans And democrats wanting to figure out who won this? 109 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Fight who Cares americans lost this, fight and they're pot about. 110 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: IT i think that is. CORRECT i think that's. Accurate 111 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: and if it, is because you could argue that this 112 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: is naivete on my. 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Part you could argue That i'm just being hopeful and really, 114 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: cute WHICH i. 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: AM i, mean look at this. Face damn. POSSIBLE i 116 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: don't deny that it's. Possible but AM i? Wrong democrats 117 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: went down this, road a road that should work for, 118 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: them and it didn't work for. 119 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: Them why? 120 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: Not the media should have been all over, this just 121 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: just drilling it into people's. 122 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: Heads they. Didn't why not because there was a war 123 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: going on In. 124 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: Iran these people are completely capable of doing two things at. 125 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: Once why. Not the only THING i can come to 126 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: is that it didn't. Connect if it didn't, connect they 127 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: spent forty one days not PAYING. 128 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: Tsa because whatever you think ABOUT, TSA. 129 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: I am not a. FAN i want privatize. SECURITY i 130 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: don't think they do a good job at. 131 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: ALL i think it is a nonsense system where THE 132 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: tsa agents are abusive to the. PASSENGERS i think it's 133 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: part of the massive problem we have in flight and With, 134 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: america and it has to. Stop they have to Be 135 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: they are the ones who have to be, retrained and 136 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: we have to rethink the entire. Process but it's a 137 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: job and they get paid for. It and now they're 138 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: not getting. 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Paid it's what do we expect from. 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Them it would be a silly thing to expect them 141 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: to still show up on the job and do the 142 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: thing forty one? 143 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: Days are you doing? 144 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: That And democrats did it. Joyfully we're not paying them 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: all for the sake. 146 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: Of illegal. 147 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: Immigrants that's the narrative that has. Held and What i'm 148 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: saying to you. 149 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: Is that the TRUE i Think i've got it. 150 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Right the winners and losers conversation is what makes us 151 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: hate them with, passion winners and. Losers Chuck, schumer you 152 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: scummy yah da da da D d things you can't 153 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: say on. 154 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: Radio and and who what do you? Mean who? Won 155 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: is that what this is? About? You having Some You're 156 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: randolph And Mortimer. 157 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: Duke and now you hand To John thune a dollar 158 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: because he won or he handed you. 159 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: One people's lives are on the, line quite, literally on 160 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: the line who. Won BUT i am. 161 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Not so. 162 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: Uh foolish as to not note that there is a 163 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: political to all these things and the AND i guess 164 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: you could argue That republicans could have agreed to this 165 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: a week or so, ago two weeks, ago whatever it, 166 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: IS i. 167 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: Guess you could have. Done you could say, that but 168 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: no one's saying. 169 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: That democrats said we could FUND tsa just by, itself 170 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: and it never went. Anywhere the media did not pound on, 171 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: that did not Push republicans on. 172 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: That, ever it went? Nowhere? Why and the only THING. 173 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: I can come to is That america has already made 174 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: up their. Minds, now which way did they make it? 175 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Up did they say this is democrats fault and just 176 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: leave the thought process ending there like a dangling, participle 177 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: just hanging in the. 178 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Air or did they, say These democrats care way more 179 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: about illegal immigrants than they do about. 180 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Me they think they take my vote for, granted they 181 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: take me for, granted they take. 182 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: Everything about us for. Granted they really don't. Care maybe it's, 183 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: naivete BUT i hope that's the. 184 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: Case that people are waking up to the realization that 185 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: this this progressive party cares more about the, illegal more 186 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: about a power than they do about the, people more about, 187 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: party more about power than it is about, people more 188 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: about control than it is about. Country and Dear, lord 189 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: that is an opportunity for the. MIDTERMS i did not. 190 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 2: EXPECT i don't Mean republicans will necessarily be. VICTORIOUS i 191 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: am saying this idea of some great. Slaughter maybe that's 192 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: people speaking too. Early when we talk About. November Marco 193 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: rubio scheduled to speak after THE g. Seven President trump 194 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: is speaking from The White house to farmers and ABOUT 195 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: i think It's National Agriculture, day so everybody gets some 196 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: beats and we will. 197 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: Enjoy. No, NO i meant the food and not not the. Earbuds. 198 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry you're gonna have to get with Doctor dre 199 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: on your. Own Tony katz and this Is Tony katz 200 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: today