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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pacers made a move today. Shortly before an

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Speaker 1: are now left for nothing, which I think is what

434
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Speaker 1: everybody thought, right, everybody thought coming into it, like, look,

435
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna be seven and nine and the right back

436
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: to square one. I said, ten and seven. They're going

437
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: to be better than ten and seven unless the wheels

438
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: fall off here, bottom line. And part of that is

439
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: because they're getting solid play from each and every player

440
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: when their name and their number is called. And one

441
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Speaker 1: of those guys, Eddie, did you say that you're scouring

442
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: through right now to see if somebody might be able

443
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Speaker 1: to join us over there?

444
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to see if we need to get

445
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: some teen crumpets.

446
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: Really?

447
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

448
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: Does that mean that we might be taking a player

449
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: that has spent time in England? That is indeed the case.

450
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: There is a player who's had a circuitous route to

451
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: land him in Indianapolis, a player that is like ash

452
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: taking advantage of every possible situation that comes his way

453
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: and making plays for the Colts when it matters, most

454
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: exemplifying what this particular version of the Colts have become,

455
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: not unlike the version of the Pacers that everybody just

456
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: fell in love with in town. And by that I

457
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: mean guys that are coming in and saying I need

458
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: to do what is best, not just for this team,

459
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: but to simply take advantage and wait my turn and

460
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: then make plays. And I believe we're going to talk

461
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: to one of those guys. He is essentially an Ashton

462
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: Dooland type. When his number is called, he's there, and

463
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to dial and call his number

464
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: and see if he answers. And he spent time in

465
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Speaker 1: England and he's now with the Colts and we will

466
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Speaker 1: bring him into the program and we'll do it next

467
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Speaker 1: Also on the program today, Taylor tannebo I'm going to

468
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Speaker 1: join us later on in the show. You ask why, Well,

469
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: not just because Taylor's fun and we love being from Indy,

470
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: but or working in Indy. But this situation with Bill.

471
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Speaker 1: Bill is crazy, honestly, like like I don't know and

472
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I realize who cares about North Carolina football. Don't care

473
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: about North Carolina football. But Belichick is obviously a guy

474
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: that you look at and you're like, what the hell

475
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: is going on there? He's got this young girlfriend and

476
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: it's just a disaster so far. Is it a disaster

477
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: or does it need to get more time? Taylor Tannebaum

478
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Speaker 1: acc Network going to join us on the show. We're

479
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: going to go to Arizona, do our road trip, find

480
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: out what's going on with the Cardinals. We will do

481
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: that at one o'clock. But when we come back inside

482
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Speaker 1: inside the Colts locker room, one of their players joining us.

483
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Speaker 1: Next Colts and the Cardinals coming up Thursday edition. By

484
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: the way, Quarry and Company, thank you for joining us.

485
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: My name is Jake Quarry. Eddie Garrison the other voice

486
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: you hear on this program. We call it Querry and Company.

487
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: And as you folks know, we always have those that

488
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: are listening in the audience, we assign them a title

489
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Speaker 1: within the company. Eddie, I am super excited because you

490
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: know what we don't have. We don't have a director

491
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: of economics. We don't have a director of stock trading.

492
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: That's what we need on this show. In this company, right.

493
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: So what better guy to do exactly that than one

494
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: that joins us from West fifty sixth Street. He is,

495
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: of course an Indianapolis cult He had a big block

496
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: punt against the Las Vegas Raiders. He is also a

497
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: linebacker for them. Shagu Alubi joining us on the Java House.

498
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Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line Shagu, how are you?

499
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 7: I'm good man, that's good, and that good to be here.

500
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 7: That's funny.

501
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's begin with that. Are you cool with

502
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: being the director of economics and day trading?

503
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, we can get it done.

504
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Then. I'm sure I used to do a little bit

505
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: in college, although at this point you're a little bit

506
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: busy in your primary day to day job. All right,

507
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Speaker 1: So I want to begin with this. You know, your

508
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: story to me is fascinating, and for those that are unfamiliar,

509
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: obviously I think everybody knows by now. But you came

510
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: here by way of the San Francisco forty nine ers,

511
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: where you were an undrafted free agent, and you have

512
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: found your way within this roster of doing every little

513
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: thing that needs to be done, no matter what is

514
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: called upon you. And I've talked a lot on this

515
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: show about Ashton Doolan and how much respect I have

516
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: for Ashton Doolan because he just is the guy that,

517
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: when it's necessary, does what's needed to be done. Do you,

518
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: number one take that as a compliment? And number two,

519
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: what is the mindset of just kind of having to

520
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: find your role within a franchise?

521
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's just being here. You have so

522
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 7: many great examples of that, you know what I mean.

523
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 7: It's the culture here, so just being able to follow

524
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 7: the success. You know, you look at guys like Dueling,

525
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 7: you look at guys like Zee, you look at it

526
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 7: like guys that will come through here. It's just every

527
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 7: man that does what they can to help.

528
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Speaker 1: With your position. Obviously, you know you are a linebacker

529
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: by trade, you know, the will linebacker whichever way we

530
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: want to use the terminology there. But we now know

531
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Speaker 1: that the guy that you know was just in front

532
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: of you and Joe Bachi goes onto ir. They make

533
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: the trade. Now for Jermaine Pratt, you're right there as well.

534
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Speaker 1: Do you anticipate the reps and your role to be

535
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: elevated within that position?

536
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Speaker 7: You know, you always look to help another but any

537
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 7: way that you can, So you know, Jermaine come in

538
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 7: and he's a great he's a great guy for them,

539
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 7: he's been with them in the past. Provides leadership obviously,

540
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, help with z you know.

541
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Speaker 7: And it's just looking for opportunities wherever they come up.

542
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 7: For sure.

543
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Speaker 1: I want to get back to kind of your story, Shagud,

544
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: because I think it's it's a fascinating one and quite frankly,

545
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: and I don't mean this condescendingly, it's an inspiring one

546
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: because you know, and you know this. I mean, there

547
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: are so many guys in the NFL that were five

548
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: stars that we knew about and we've known about them

549
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: since they were nineteen twenty years old. Okay, Now I'm

550
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: going to give for our listeners, and you stop me

551
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: if I'm incorrect in any of the information that I've

552
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: accumulated from various sources here. Okay, So you were born

553
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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. As a kid, you lived in New Jersey,

554
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: You lived in Minnesota, lived in Arizona, lived in London

555
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: in England, came back, lived in Arizona, lived in California,

556
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: then went to college in Idaho, went to college in Arkansas,

557
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: back to college in California, and then into the NFL.

558
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Now that's a very circuitous route, and so my first

559
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: question would be, do you believe had it not been

560
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: that kind of a path, that you still would have

561
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: found your way into the NFL Or did having to

562
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: kind of go those extra steps drive you to the

563
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: player you've become.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, looking back on it, there's opportunities where I think

565
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Speaker 7: if I could have got placed as sooner or could

566
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Speaker 7: have did things a little bit differently, But ultimately my

567
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 7: goal was to just taken an idea from every place

568
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 7: that I went along the way and just added to

569
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 7: my game. You know, whether it's learning how to be

570
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 7: a leader, learning how to watch film from a guy

571
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 7: like Nate Moore, learning how to pull your trigger from

572
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 7: Jacory Nichols, you know what I mean, learning how how

573
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 7: to be a dog like from Tayok you know me

574
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 7: and over in San Diego State, just every step along

575
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Speaker 7: the way of adding something to your game.

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Speaker 1: When you walked on at San Diego State, there were

577
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Speaker 1: probably people that didn't know your story but you did.

578
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: Was that similar to the situation that you found yourself

579
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL of having to kind of prove yourself.

580
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 7: Definitely there's parallels there, you know, I'm grateful for that

581
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 7: to me, to have been able to go on through

582
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: a situation like that before I got to because it

583
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 7: just caught me that you put your head down and

584
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 7: things go the way that you want them to if

585
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 7: you work hard.

586
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: You know. So what point, let's get to this. You

587
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: said in college you did a little bit of day trading.

588
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Now my understanding is one of the schools you attended,

589
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I think it might have been Hearting, I'm not sure,

590
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: but that you you were looking for like an economics

591
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: course that they didn't offer, and so therefore you transferred

592
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: back out again. Maybe that's embellished, I don't know. But

593
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: how did you get into the trading part of it?

594
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Speaker 1: And what about it intrigues you?

595
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just I've always been a person that love

596
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 7: seeing growth and so being able to start an investment

597
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: portfolio with like ten dollars and then it's actually up

598
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 7: to about like twenty one hundred. Now I haven't touched

599
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 7: that initial portfolio. I kind of left it alone and

600
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 7: allowed it to do its thing. Is that, you know,

601
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 7: as like a momento to myself. But yeah, just seeing

602
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 7: like the opportunity for growth is one of those things

603
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 7: that I've always.

604
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Speaker 1: Loved Okay, so you started with ten bucks and then

605
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: you just put it in a rainy day fund, and

606
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: now at twenty one hundred.

607
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 7: Well, it wasn't really a rainy day fun. It was like,

608
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 7: you know, let's see what we can do with the

609
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 7: ten dollars.

610
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: You know that's pretty cool though, right, Yeah.

611
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. Yeah it's been going steadily. Man, I

612
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 7: think at it. Over the course of the time, I'll

613
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 7: edit up to three hundred, and then from then it

614
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 7: was just purely growth.

615
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: Okay, fact or fiction. When you were in college or

616
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: at some point along the way, you were working at

617
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: five Guys. Fact, So how do you not weigh three hundred?

618
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Because I would I mean you know what I mean,

619
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: like I'd be I would have been eating five Guys

620
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: every single day, and I.

621
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Speaker 7: Was, oh, man, my manager it was funny if my

622
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 7: manager actually he didn't eat at work, so he used

623
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 7: to just put his meal in for me too, because

624
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 7: he knew I was going to eat.

625
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Speaker 1: So now, wait a minute, here's my thing. Every time

626
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I go to five Guys, they have the sign that

627
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: tells me where the fries are from, and they're always

628
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: from Idaho. And you were at collegized. Is that did

629
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: you work at the Five Guys in Idaho?

630
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Speaker 7: No, that was in Orange County, California.

631
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to because otherwise you just you

632
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: could have just gone out back to get the potatoes.

633
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 7: Right, Oh exactly.

634
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: Hey, what do you most like about Indianapolis? I mean

635
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: you've obviously been kind of to all parts. What are

636
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: you most like about Indy?

637
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 7: Uh, the family vibe. It's not just in the building,

638
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 7: you know, you get around the people in the community,

639
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 7: like people are accepting and loving out here. I think

640
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 7: people are authentic and real, which is something that can

641
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 7: be hard to find.

642
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: You talked about growth. Shaegu Alubi is our guests. He's

643
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: on the Java House peeling poor guest line. You talk

644
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: about growth, you know, for your money and just your

645
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: story in general represents exactly that this particular team and

646
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: you've been around it. I mean, this is not your

647
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: first year in Indy, so you've seen kind of this

648
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: team grow and blossom, and you guys are obviously off

649
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: to one of the best starts in the league. What

650
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: has been the difference.

651
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Speaker 7: Ultimately? I think it's just you know, sometimes it's Tommy

652
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 7: an opportunity, you know, We've had good players, you know,

653
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 7: when I've been here, and we've had you know, a

654
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 7: good coaching you know, and it's just sometimes things got

655
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 7: to marry up in the right way. And that we're

656
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 7: seeing that happen on Sundays.

657
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: This year, the you know, the and I realize the

658
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: other side of the football, so different meeting rooms and

659
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: things like that. But Daniel Jones has been as you know,

660
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: jegu I mean, you're aware of this. He has obviously

661
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: been a major story in a positive way for the

662
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Colts this year. Quarterbacking sometimes with leadership, I think that

663
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: we envision that the quarterback is the one that everybody

664
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: gravitates towards and he's the one that's giving the raw

665
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: rod chance and everything else. What kind of a leader

666
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: have you been able to see that Daniel Jones is?

667
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 7: Yeah? Just consistent execution, right, Like, you look at a

668
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 7: guy like Daniel, he's not super big into the raw row,

669
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 7: but you can look at him and see that confidence

670
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 7: that's there, and then you can see the consistent execution

671
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 7: that makes guys, you know, believe, and when you have beliefs,

672
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 7: guys play hard. You know.

673
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: So, okay, what about on your side of the ball,

674
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you know the guy that well, I'll just say, I'll

675
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: ask you this, who is your defensive leader.

676
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 7: We know Ze to be a vocal leader for us,

677
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 7: but there's multiple players on our defense that are our leaders,

678
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 7: whether it's you know, DEFO. I mean realistically, like, we

679
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 7: have so much good leadership in sen on defense that

680
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 7: it's not just one guy. And that's kind of one

681
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 7: of the things that we have as an advantage.

682
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I the Forest Buckner is the guy that it

683
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: seems and obviously Zira Franklin, Right, it goes without saying

684
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: that Franklin based on tenure and just the fact that

685
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: he is so reliably there, right, But Buckner is also

686
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: a guy that, it seems as though from the outside,

687
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: is the one that's not afraid to speak up, so

688
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: to speak. Is that a fair assessment. Yeah.

689
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 7: When so something needs to be said, buck isn't afraid

690
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 7: to say it at all, you know, And I think

691
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 7: that's true for a lot of guys on our defense,

692
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: which is, like I said, part of what makes us

693
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 7: so good because Cam bind him the same way.

694
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So Cam Binham is a guy that you have

695
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: a lot of experience with, right, because you go beyond

696
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: just the walls of West fifty sixth Street and your

697
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: experience with cam Bynham correct.

698
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, me and him went to the high school together,

699
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 7: so that's all. I was really awesome to be able

700
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 7: to see him and be teammates again.

701
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: Who was the better player in high school?

702
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 7: I say you, he said, He might say me. I

703
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: might say him. You know, that's this kind of guys

704
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: we are. But you know, I'll probably go with camp.

705
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: It is it surreal to be And I would think

706
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: this is true for anybody, but I'll ask it just

707
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: for you in particular. Is it still surreal that you're

708
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: in the National Football League?

709
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 7: Every day? I walk in every day, walk in the

710
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 7: locker room every single day, look around and see, Like

711
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 7: I mean, when I first walk in, usually I see

712
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 7: tread you know, and so I see LaQuan Treadwell. And

713
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 7: I remember watching Lakwan in college and then watching him

714
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 7: in the league, and like, you just see different guys,

715
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 7: you know, and it just reminds you. Look around the building,

716
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 7: you see how people are. It's surreal every single day

717
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 7: and I try not to take it for granted.

718
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: And with that the at what point in your career

719
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: did you realize that the NFL was a distinct possibility.

720
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Speaker 7: I remember it like it was yesterday. It was my

721
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 7: freshman year of high school of college. I was sitting

722
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 7: in my college dorm when I was watching an NFL

723
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 7: game with my roommate, and I just remember sitting there

724
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 7: and I was like, man, I watched some guy and

725
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 7: I think he got completely cooked. And I was just looking.

726
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 7: I was like, you know, I think I could do it,

727
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: at least that, you know what I mean, Like, I

728
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 7: think I could do better than that. And so I

729
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 7: just remember that I changed my Twitter handles to the

730
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 7: league and then kind of just started working on it

731
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 7: from then.

732
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Speaker 1: And once you got into like the situation, for example,

733
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: where you get a key block punt a special teams

734
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: play like that, right, I would think being in particular

735
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: in special teams can be a challenge because you only

736
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: get so many opportunities out there to make the name,

737
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: to make your footprint, to impact the game, and so

738
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you're not over rushing it,

739
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: overthinking it, getting too zealous and letting the process take

740
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: care of itself on a play. Now, that's me a

741
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: rate talking. Is that me way overthinking the mindset of

742
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: what you have to be in the NFL.

743
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 7: No, I mean it's pretty simple, like you just line

744
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 7: up and execute your job, and then the big plays

745
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 7: happened because you were prepared and you were doing what

746
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 7: you were supposed to do. Like, you can't really go

747
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 7: big play hunting because that's when you get out of position.

748
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 7: I mean they'ad the are too good, you know, Like

749
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 7: you can't sit there and try to capitalize on something

750
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 7: that isn't there.

751
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: But doesn't that kind of symbolize your entire journey.

752
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know what I mean, Like like.

753
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: You just had to go through the process, right, Yeah.

754
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 7: It's taking advantage of the opportunities when they're there, but

755
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 7: you can't rush the process. I think that's true for

756
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: a lot of guys in this league.

757
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing to do when you're not and

758
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: during the season. I realize, you know, you're pretty committed

759
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to what you're doing, but when you're away from the facility,

760
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: when you're away from practice, when you are just kind

761
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: of kicking your feet up, so to speak, chegu Alubi

762
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: is doing what to pass the time?

763
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: I like to travel, you know, I like to travel

764
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 7: around a bit. And then if I'm not doing that,

765
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 7: I'll probably be doing yoga or boxing like I don't

766
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 7: like to do active things like that.

767
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: How long do you live in London?

768
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: We were there for a brief stint, probably like a

769
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 7: few months, a couple months, you know what I mean.

770
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 7: I'm trying to get things situated back here.

771
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Have you been? Have you been back there since? I mean,

772
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: didn't have any sort of an impact on you?

773
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

774
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 7: I travel I traveled there pretty as often as I can.

775
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 7: I was just there this last summer visiting my cousins

776
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 7: and friends and stuff.

777
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Do your cousins have British accents? Yeah, of course I

778
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: have a wonderful I have. Eddie loves this. I have

779
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: a wonderful British accent. Now, Shae, can you can you

780
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: critique my British accent for me?

781
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 7: All right, let's give it a go.

782
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching Indianapolis Coach of the Week and

783
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: and they had a guy that he brought upont foot

784
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: against it right is? And then before I knew the

785
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: Colts just pulled away. What do you think?

786
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 7: I think it sounds like it makes the different reasons,

787
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 7: but you know it's better than.

788
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: Some Yes, yes, now here's the thing though Britt would

789
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: immediately be able to call me out as opposer, wouldn't.

790
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 7: They in different places? For sure?

791
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: It's it's cockney, that's what That's what I'm going for. Idea.

792
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means, but I like

793
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: saying it. You know what I mean? All right? Shake Alubi, Listen.

794
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck against the Arizona

795
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals coming up. If you guys gotten a chance really

796
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: to dive in yet, I would assume that yesterday was

797
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: probably when you really started to look at tape on Arizona.

798
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we've been on it. We've been on it

799
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 7: since Monday. Shoot, how do you.

800
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: How do you prepare for it when a Kyler Murray say,

801
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know if he's going to play.

802
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: He's a dynamic playmaker. You got to have an eye

803
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: on him at all times. But you don't know if

804
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be uh, you know, whether it's going

805
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: to be Murray, whether it's going to be Jacoby Brissett.

806
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: How do you, guys, what is the approach when you

807
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know the status of a quarterback?

808
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 7: I think it just you just add more time, right,

809
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 7: like as much time as you can squeeze you're gonna

810
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 7: you're gonna focus on on both guys. You know, obviously

811
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 7: the time I've been you know, you can't discount it back,

812
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 7: and we always have a plan in place for either guy.

813
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: Well, Seagu, we wish you the best of luck. Man.

814
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. It's always a pleasure to speak

815
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: to the guys from over there, and we certainly wish

816
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: you the best of luck. Coming up in h Lucas

817
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium on Sunday against Arizona. We look forward to

818
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: watching it.

819
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 7: Awesome man, Thank you for having me.

820
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, good day. Then see see how I did that?

821
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Eddie h Scheague Alubi joining us on the Java House,

822
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line. Lots still to get to

823
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: over the course of today when we come back. There is,

824
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: in fact, as we mentioned off the top, a change

825
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: in things at Gambridge Fieldhouse. We'll explain next. Thank you

826
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: to schegu Alubi for joining us on the show. Heading

827
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: out to Arizona a little road trip we're going to

828
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: be doing that. The Cardinals are coming here, but we

829
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: will go out to Arizona coming up about ten minutes

830
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: from now. Pacers have a change in their back court.

831
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: The Lon Wright, who was one that I actually thought

832
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: was going to be somebody that could, you know, fill

833
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: that role as just kind of the number three backup, backup,

834
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: if you will, point guard. But within this offense, obviously

835
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: everybody kind of gets a chance to get through, especially

836
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. But he was and I don't

837
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: think it was because of this. He was shaken up

838
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: in game preseason game number one, he received ten stitches

839
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: after a collision on the court. But he was released

840
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: by the Pacers today and they have already gone out

841
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: and decided to try their luck elsewhere. In terms of

842
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: that position, it is Cameron Payne that now comes to Indiana.

843
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: He most recently spent time, I believe is a Knickerbocker.

844
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: Am I correcting that, Eddie?

845
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: That is correct?

846
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Campaign? Who has played. I'm just gonna keep saying Cameron

847
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Payne because every time I say campaign, I started thinking

848
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: about all those commercials that take place. He's been, you know,

849
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of bounced around the league, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Philly, most

850
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: recently New York, but now going to get his chance

851
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: the former Murray State player. The general managers of the

852
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: NBA did a survey Eddie that you were just telling

853
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: me about but you did not tell me the results

854
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: of said survey. Give me the category and I will

855
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: tell you where the Pacers slot, or that those related

856
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: to the Pacers in what you were reading.

857
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: All right, there's a total of forty nine questions. Yeah,

858
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: this was just released on NBA dot com. Let's start here, Jake,

859
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: in the Eastern This is a survey of all general

860
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: managers in the league and then they tallied up the votes. Right, yes, okay, yes, okay,

861
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: So go ahead with the category and the Eastern Conference rankings.

862
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: Where do the Pacers fall? They only dow top eight.

863
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to say the I'm going to give

864
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: you teams that I'm certain would be ahead of Indiana,

865
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Speaker 1: and we'll see how quickly I run out. You ready,

866
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: So I'll give you the team. You just tell me

867
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: where they slot. New York second, Orlando third, Cleveland first,

868
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: Boston eighth, Milwaukee tied for fifth. Okay, oh, Detroit tied

869
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: for fifth? Did I say Orlando already?

870
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: You did?

871
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go with how many have I mentioned so far?

872
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: You've mentioned Cleveland, New York, Orlando, Detroit, Milwaukee, Boston.

873
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll say, now Indiana, they are not in

874
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: the top eight. Okay, so there's one team that I'm

875
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: looking for above them. Okay, surely this wouldn't be the case.

876
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Chicago New Miami New. I think Miami deserves some consideration.

877
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: They're strictly based on their coach. I mean, after that,

878
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: everything's at dumpster fire, right.

879
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: The I think there's an obvious one, and I think

880
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: there's a team that nobody really talks about a lot

881
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: that's going to shock people with how good they will

882
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: be this year. All right, hit me who's the obvious Philly? Yeah?

883
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: See, I strongly disagree there, although I realize if healthy, Yeah,

884
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: that's fair.

885
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: They're all healthy to my knowledge right now.

886
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: So that's why I say.

887
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: But again, I mean, okay, Atlanta, Atlanta fourth in the

888
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: GM survey. Really hm, okay, let's see no players in

889
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: this one. But who do you think they predicted will

890
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: win the MVP. This was a pretty much unanimous sixty

891
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: seven percent of the votes went to this guy, Luka doncic. Yep,

892
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: that is correct. Let me scroll to another one. Oh

893
00:45:51,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: most likely active player to become a head coach. McConnell

894
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: tied for second with Mike Conley. So there was a

895
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: player that was in front of them. Yes, bam, out

896
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: of BYU. Nope, hit me Chris Paul, the most overrated

897
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: point guard in the history of the NBA.

898
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Everybody like Chris Paul is the final piece for a

899
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: championship for fourteen different franchises, all of which then got

900
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: beat in the conference finals.

901
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: Which player would you want taking a shot with the

902
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: game on the line?

903
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean if Tyrese Halliburton is not number one

904
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: in this category after what he just did in the postseason,

905
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: then every single one of these gms needs to never allowed,

906
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: never again be allowed to do this.

907
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: With thirteen percent of the votes, Tyrese Halliburton third on

908
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: the list, okay behind. Now here's the thing, I don't

909
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: consider the top guy. I don't really know the top

910
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: guy for clutch shots. I know of a couple, but

911
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: not a lot in his career. Hit me Stephen Curry fort.

912
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he did hit a pretty big one in

913
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: the Olympics. That's fair, Okay, yeah, that one?

914
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: And then uh, I mean just the fact that if

915
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: he's open, you know, you feel pretty good.

916
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Okay, last one, Jake, before we have to hit a

917
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: time out here, who is the other player on that list,

918
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: who Kevin Durant, Who is the best point guard?

919
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Rant?

920
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: Who is the best point guard in the National Basketball Association?

921
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Are they considering Luka Doncic a point guard?

922
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: They are indeed?

923
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Okay, then I would put uh shake Gildess, Alexander Luca

924
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson.

925
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, No, Haliburton, Stephan Curry third, Tyrese Haliburton fourth

926
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: Lifetime Achievement Award.

927
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Uh do you happen to have Eddie and he? Are

928
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: you going with peanuts or the little cookies on our

929
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: flight that we're about to take.

930
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh, pretzels? Can I do pretzels?

931
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: Sure? You can do pretzels. Okay, we're gonna take a flight.

932
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Arizona. We're gonna talk to somebody

933
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: from Azcardinals dot com. Thank you Darren Urbin joining us

934
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: previewing Who's coming to Lucas Oil Stadium next, Eddie? Have

935
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: you been to the Greater Phoenix area? Out of curiosity?

936
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I have not.

937
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: I would love to go out there. I've heard great

938
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: things about It's fabulous.

939
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: There's it is. It's awesome. First off, the now they

940
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: tell me, you know, in the summertime. Obviously, no it's

941
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: a dry heat gets a little toasty. But I'm no bugs.

942
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: There's not a single bug in the state of Arizona's

943
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: you know that because of the lack of humidity or whatever.

944
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: It is. No bugs, no spiders. Well you do get that,

945
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: and then there's the occasional scorpion. But in terms of

946
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: let me, no airborne bugs, no mosquitoes, no nothing, No skeeters,

947
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: no skeeters, that's right, No nuisance, no gnats, nothing. I

948
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe some of that is. So then how

949
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: are you welcome there? We'll find out what's that?

950
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: Are you welcome there?

951
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 4: Then?

952
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: Thank you? Darren Urban joins us now on the Java

953
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: House Peel and Poor Guest line. He is with acardinals

954
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: dot com. Darren, is that true there are no bugs

955
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: in Arizona?

956
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: Well, again, I know that you just mentioned scorpions, which

957
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: to me is a pretty I sometimes I wish I

958
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: might have a mosquito when I've seen the scorpion on

959
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: the wall in my house, But generally, no, there's no,

960
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 5: there's no not a whole lot of flying bugs. There's

961
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: definitely not very many mosquitoes, and that has to do

962
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 5: with the fact that it's one hundred and ten every

963
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 5: day in the summertime.

964
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, how big are scorpions?

965
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: By the way, Well, that's the interesting part about the scorpion.

966
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: The smaller the scorpion, the more dangerous it is. Actually, really, yeah,

967
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: the venom tends to be nastier if they're smaller. But

968
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: most scorpions or I don't know, maybe maybe a couple

969
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: of inches, maybe a little less than that.

970
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Like how often are you seeing them? How like? Is

971
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: this something that like once in the lifetime of a

972
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: house you see a scorpion or is it a regular

973
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: thing in the course of say the winter.

974
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Speaker 5: It depends. It depends on where you live in the valley.

975
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: The older, the older neighborhoods tend to not have a

976
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: whole bunch of them because they they've been there. But this,

977
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 5: this valley has grown so much in the last twenty

978
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: thirty years that there's a lot of building out in

979
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 5: where it has been traditionally desert for the longest time.

980
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 5: So that's where they tend to be. So and I

981
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: did not expect to have this many scorpion questions today.

982
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: I'll be up. So that's what we do, all right.

983
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: So now, so we'll get to football, then the Cardinals

984
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: and the Colts coming up Sunday Lucas Oil Stadium. Let's

985
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: get to the meat of the matter first, and that

986
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: would be Kyler Murray and his availability. What are we

987
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: hearing at this point?

988
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 5: The Cardinals are saying he's day to day. He didn't

989
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: practice Wednesday, were before practice today, so don't know if

990
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 5: he's going to be out there, and the coach Gannon

991
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: doesn't talk until tomorrow again, and so we won't really

992
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 5: get any kind of other update other than whether he's

993
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 5: out there or not and whatever's on the injury report,

994
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: So we'll see if he's out there. I mean, obviously,

995
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: if he's a DMP again today, you wouldn't think that

996
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 5: that would be trending in a great way. But I

997
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 5: would think it would take the entire week of what's

998
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 5: exactly going to happen, because you know, he's been around

999
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 5: this offense. If he was able to practice some on Friday,

1000
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: maybe that opens a door for him. So well, we'll

1001
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 5: see where it is today and tomorrow. But I mean,

1002
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 5: obviously it wouldn't have been brought up, and Gannon, who

1003
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 5: doesn't really like to talk a lot about injuries, did

1004
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 5: bring it up. Before practice yesterday. I mean, I think

1005
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett is absolutely in play for a possibility of

1006
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: playing this weekend.

1007
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: Okay, and let's go to that. Obviously, in Indianapolis, we

1008
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: are familiar with Jacoby Brissette, right, And I know in

1009
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Arizona one of the expected big playmakers has been Marvin

1010
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior since the time that he was acquired there,

1011
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: and you know, there have been there's been inconsistency, but

1012
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I think we know how good he can be. How

1013
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: does Arizona's offense change in terms of the playbook essentially

1014
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: or schematically if it's preset and not Kyler Murray.

1015
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I mean, obviously we haven't seen

1016
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: Jacoby yet in this offense when it matters, I mean,

1017
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 5: obviously played a little bit in the preseason. I think

1018
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: Jacoby is a little bit more of your standard kind

1019
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: of stand in the pocket quarterback. So in theory you

1020
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: could see a possibility of them being able to throw

1021
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 5: the ball down the field a little bit more. I

1022
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 5: don't think that necessarily is something they've done a lot

1023
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 5: of with Kyler for whatever reason. It's not the kind

1024
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 5: of can't, but I would just I mean Kyler's ability

1025
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 5: to scramble obviously is not there with necessarily with Jacoby Brissett.

1026
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 5: So you could see more Harrison, you could see more

1027
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: of the receivers. But I'd be fascinated to know. I mean,

1028
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 5: this offense, this offense came into the season and the

1029
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 5: way they played the last two years, it was based

1030
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: on a really good running game and it was all

1031
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 5: going to be playing off of that, and unfortunately for

1032
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: the Cardinals, between the injuries at running back and not

1033
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 5: awesome play on the offensive line and some injuries there,

1034
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 5: that running game has not been there. So when you

1035
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 5: have an offense based on the running game and it's

1036
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: not as effective as you were hoping, that tends to

1037
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 5: have a trickle down effect. And I think that's what's

1038
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 5: happened to the Cardinals over the first five games.

1039
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, in looking at it, Darren Trey McBride has

1040
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: played well for them, for example at tight end right,

1041
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know you would know obviously better than

1042
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: I whether or not he has been a focal point

1043
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: for them or is that kind of you know, it

1044
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: seems like we're seeing a league that is getting more

1045
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: involved with the receiving tight end. Does Arizona do that

1046
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: because of what is available there, or is it almost

1047
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: most out of necessity because the other areas that the

1048
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: offense haven't gotten going yet.

1049
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think Trey McBride gets the targets

1050
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: he gets and is the impactful player that he is.

1051
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 5: I would say eighty percent of that is because he's

1052
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 5: a great player, and he's essentially their best He's their

1053
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: best pass catcher.

1054
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: He just is.

1055
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 5: So when you have somebody as good as that, and

1056
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 5: I think when the offense is clicking, I personally believe

1057
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 5: that Trey McBride is absolutely in the conversation for best

1058
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 5: tight end in the league. Now, I know not everybody's

1059
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 5: going to see it that way, and part of that

1060
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 5: is how the Cardinals are, but I believe that. So

1061
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: I think most of what McBride gets is because of

1062
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 5: how good he is, But there is a necessity, a

1063
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 5: necessity part of it. You know, Marvin Harrison is continuing

1064
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: to try and figure out his spot in this league.

1065
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 5: He's played really well the last game and a half

1066
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 5: and it seems like he's finally trending in the direction

1067
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 5: that they need him to trend in the rest of

1068
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 5: the receivers have not been very impactful. But I don't

1069
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 5: know how much of that is really them and how

1070
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 5: much of that is how this offense has struggled, and

1071
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: maybe some issues and pass protection and maybe the idea

1072
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 5: of using the running backs as pass catchers. So but

1073
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 5: getting back to your original point, I mean, I don't

1074
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: think anybody would look at this team and not say

1075
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 5: that Trey McBride is the number one pass catching option.

1076
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: I will see where how Marvin continues to develop in

1077
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Speaker 5: that way. But I mean, if Marvin gets to the

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00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 5: level that they want him to and Trede plays how

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00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 5: he's been playing for two years now, that's a pretty

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00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 5: nice one two punch.

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Speaker 1: Darren Urban is our guest Azcardinals dot Com, where you

1082
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: can read his work. We're previewing, of course, coltson Cardinals

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00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. Darren, there probably have

1084
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: not been a lot of matchups in the history of

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: the NFL that feature two teams that have had players

1086
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: that have dropped the ball just prior to the goal

1087
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: line on what was expected to be a touchdown. Now

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00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, that player, Ady Mitchell, then essentially was relegated

1089
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: to the bench. He did get in at the end

1090
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: of the game against Las Vegas, but he was disciplined

1091
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: for it. Arizona handles that situation how.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a great question. I mean, part of

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 5: the Cardinals situation. I mean, with all due respect to

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 5: Ady Mitchell, you've got other receivers that you're using.

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: In correct, different position. They're running back correct.

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 5: And with the Cardinals, they their top two running backs

1097
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: are James Connor and Trey Benson are both on ir

1098
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 5: Amar de Mercado, the player that dropped the ball, has

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: been their main third down back. They can use the

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 5: other two Michael Carter, who's been in this league and

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00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 5: Bam Knight, who's a little bit younger, but he's been

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00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: around a little bit. You know, could they get more work.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: They absolutely could. I don't know if the Cardinals are

1104
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 5: in a position where they can just afford to say Omar,

1105
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 5: you're not playing, because he also play a lot of

1106
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 5: special teams. But you know, we'll have to see where

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: it goes. It's been it's been such a weird five

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00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 5: games for this team. Every single one of the Cardinals

1109
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 5: games has come down to the final and essentially the

1110
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 5: final possession of the game. That's part of it. And

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 5: they won those first two. These last three, they've literally

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 5: lost on the final play of the game each time.

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Speaker 5: There's just a lot wloting around and the Amari thing

1114
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: just to be the cherry on top and the conversations

1115
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: around it. You can't have that happen, you know. I

1116
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: know that, you know. Not Surprisingly, the coach coaches for

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00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: the Cardinals, which I'm sure was true for all the

1118
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: other thirty teams around the league, all showed video of

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Speaker 5: A d Mitchell the previous week last week, So for

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Speaker 5: that to have happened after all the coaches, I'm sure

1121
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 5: the league saying don't let this happen. That's a tough look.

1122
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: But what that looks like on Sunday, we'll have to see,

1123
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 5: Johnson Gannon said. At this point there, it was asked

1124
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 5: if there was going to be any repercussions for him.

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 5: Gannon said, no, I don't know what that exactly looks like,

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 5: because I think the original sense of the question was

1127
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: probably more like would you cut them? But we'll have

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Speaker 5: to see exactly how it plays out on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What is Arizona's defensive strength?

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Speaker 5: I think right now their defensive strength continues to be

1131
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: the defensive line. They worked really hard to upgrade that

1132
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 5: the front seven overall, actually, and they've played really good defense.

1133
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 5: I mean, now, one of the reasons everybody's so frustrated

1134
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: out here is because defensively they've played well enough to win.

1135
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 5: If their offense had just generated any kind of semblance

1136
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 5: of regular scoring, this team very easily would be five

1137
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 5: and zero right now.

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: We can say that about a lot of stuff and

1140
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 5: a lot around the league. So you know, Bill Parcells,

1141
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 5: you are what your record says you are. But defensively

1142
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: they've played well. Unfortunately for them the last three weeks,

1143
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 5: they've had a chance to really put an exclamation point

1144
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 5: on that defensive performance in any of one of those

1145
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: games to potentially stop these game winning field goal drives,

1146
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 5: and unfortunately they have not been able to on those

1147
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: final possessions. But overall, they've played really well defensively, and

1148
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Speaker 5: I would not doubt that whether Kyler plays or Jacobe

1149
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: Prisette plays, this game this weekend is going to be

1150
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 5: about how much the defense can hold the Colts in check.

1151
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: What is their defensive achilles? What is the area that

1152
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Indianapolis can look at offensively and say there's susceptibility here,

1153
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: let's exploit it.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question, I would say. I mean, the

1155
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: first thing that pops into my mind is if it's

1156
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 5: a close game late, you might be able to move

1157
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 5: the ball late on them, because that to me, The

1158
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 5: biggest issue that the Cardinals defense has had is that

1159
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 5: they haven't gotten those last stops. I mean, I guess overall,

1160
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 5: you could probably say they have a younger secondary, but

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Speaker 5: I think for the most part, the secondary is held

1162
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 5: up and they have gotten pressure most of the time

1163
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 5: pretty well. Joshwaz got five sacks already. Their defensive line

1164
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 5: has played well, even though they've had a couple of injuries.

1165
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 5: So I guess I would say the secondary, it's been tough.

1166
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Speaker 5: I know the Seahawks ran on them, but generally teams

1167
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: have not been able to run on them.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever hike that Camelback Mountain? By the way,

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 5: Done it twice, I think, oh, in my many many years. Yeah,

1171
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: I've done it a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of a must new but it gets

1173
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: hot as hell right in that right if you like,

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Speaker 1: if you don't time.

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Speaker 5: It right, well, if you're if you're dumb, enough to

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Speaker 5: go in July, then that's pretty much on you. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be hiking something if it's

1178
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 5: not you know, November to maybe early May. That's that's

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01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 5: when I would be doing that hiking. But then again,

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: that's when everybody's going to be out there. Maybe if

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Speaker 5: you want to go in July when nobody's out there,

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Speaker 5: that's fine, but you know, if you end up having

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Speaker 5: a toll somebody to come rescue you, that's again on you.

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Speaker 1: Now, for those that don't know, by the way, just

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01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: outside of Phoenix is came on Back Mountain and you can,

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Speaker 1: I say, hike it. I mean you can. It's basically

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: rocks and then it's not overly arduous, but it is

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: pretty awesome because you get to the top you can

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Speaker 1: kind of see I like just saying the valley. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if that's in the valley, aron I

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: just like we live in Indiana, so everything to me

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: is in the valley, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's in the valley. Came Back Mountain is

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: basically right around the Scottsdale Phoenix area. It is it

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: is kind of in the center. If you get to

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Speaker 5: the top I mean one of the times I climbed

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 5: it was actually back in the day, the Cardinals had

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Speaker 5: a strength coach named John Lott, and when the rookies

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Speaker 5: first showed up, and it was the summer, it was

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: real early morning. But I accompanied them one time when

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Speaker 5: he would take the rookies out there and climb it

1202
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 5: a couple of times during the off season, and they

1203
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: go to the top of Hacked John Lott would run it,

1204
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 5: actually run it up and then run it down. Sane

1205
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 5: sounds dangerous.

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Speaker 1: As yeah, that's that's insane. Now I'm curious before we

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Speaker 1: let you go. Darren Darren Urban as our guest. He's

1208
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peelingport guest line Azcardinals dot com,

1209
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: where you can read his work. When the Cardinals to

1210
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: me are an interesting franchise because it's an interesting area,

1211
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: because it has become such a transi in other words,

1212
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's obviously a beautiful and a fabulous

1213
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: area of the country. So therefore, seemingly a lot of

1214
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: the population of Arizona is from elsewhere, and perhaps they

1215
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: have their favorite team they grew up watching, and so oh,

1216
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: let's go to the Cardinals game because they're playing my broncos,

1217
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: et cetera. But they've been there for a while now,

1218
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: since coming from Saint Louis. Is it now an entrenched

1219
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: end in rooms, part of the Phoenix lifestyle and culture,

1220
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: or is it still a franchise that is trying to

1221
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: completely be embraced, if you will, by the market.

1222
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think I think it's much more

1223
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: entrenched than it was. I think you've had a generation

1224
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 5: that live here that grew up and the Cardinals have

1225
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 5: been here the whole time, so you do have that help.

1226
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 5: I mean, there's still going to be fans from other places,

1227
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: but I think you find that in a lot of places.

1228
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: I mean, some of these legacy kind of franchises are

1229
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 5: always going to have fans well.

1230
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Speaker 1: And I think I say that more about the growth

1231
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: and the evolution of the city than the franchise itself,

1232
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just such a place

1233
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: where who wouldn't want to live there?

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Speaker 4: Well?

1235
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Speaker 5: And again, you're right, there's a lot of people moving

1236
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 5: in here all the time, and it just depends and

1237
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 5: there's still lots of people that are fans of other

1238
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 5: teams for sure. But I've also run into a bunch

1239
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 5: of people that are said. You know, I was a

1240
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 5: fan of another team, but I moved here, and after

1241
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 5: a couple of years, I'm like, you know what, if

1242
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 5: I'm going to live here, I need to be a

1243
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 5: fan of the home team. So it's grown like that.

1244
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 5: But it's like anything else, like when you're when you're successful,

1245
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 5: and this tends to be more as you move west

1246
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 5: in this country. It's not just Phoenix, but when you're successful,

1247
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 5: the fans are going to be there. And when you

1248
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: know it's there's something to be said. I get the

1249
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: fans in Cleveland and Pittsburgh that no matter what happens,

1250
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 5: you're going to show up every week. It's there's a

1251
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 5: lot to do out here, and there's a lot to

1252
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: do in California, and there's a lot to do in

1253
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 5: Washington State, where it's like when you struggle, it's it's

1254
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: going to hard. It's harder to keep people's attention.

1255
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously they've been there. You know, it's

1256
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: essentially the same as the Colts, right, I mean they

1257
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: what they got during what eighty eight is that right

1258
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in there eighty or eighty nine?

1259
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, eighty eight.

1260
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Speaker 1: Been there longer than they were in Saint Louis and

1261
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: closing in on as long as they were in Chicago. Hey, listen,

1262
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Darren certainly appreciated travels safely to Indian app and look

1263
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: forward to watching what happens on Sunday.

1264
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, guys.

1265
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: Darren Urbanazcardinals dot com again on the Java House Peel

1266
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: and poor guest line, you said, Eddie yesterday you tried out,

1267
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: by the way, the liquid science correct.

1268
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Speaker 2: Very good, solid. All their stuff is really good, Jake, And.

1269
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Speaker 1: I'm having to start to like keep it up on

1270
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: lock and key here, right, because you broke into my

1271
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: Wrangler stash the other day the energy.

1272
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: Drink, right, I didn't break into anything.

1273
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Java House dot com where you can see all of that?

1274
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: Do you know where you live?

1275
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: Though? So, and by the way, I'm curious of this,

1276
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: so I think, and you don't know this yet, but

1277
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to do cat duty for me on Saturday.

1278
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm leaving tomorrow to go to Denver just for the weekend.

1279
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Speaker 2: Can't be me, Jake, I leave for my vacation tomorrow morning.

1280
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Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Okay, So here's the thing.

1281
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: What about Zybersover. I know he's around here. I believe

1282
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: he's a cat guy. Yeah, I think Caleb's in the mix.

1283
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: My sister.

1284
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, my sister has got a lot going on

1285
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: right now, so you know, I might put her up

1286
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: to this. Of course, she has a lot going on.

1287
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: Typically it would be Shannon, but she's going with me.

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: We're going to Denver, and I'm curious of this. Jake.

1289
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: Just make sure you clarify on what kind of coumanies

1290
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: you want when you go there.

1291
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: Please, I'm not bringing that's all you man. We're gonna

1292
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: go see Paul McCartney on Saturday Night, right, Okay, And

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01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'm a McCartney like. I'm not like some

1294
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: diehard I'm not Mike Chapel, right, I love the Beatles,

1295
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: But I mean I realize it's Paul McCartney now, and

1296
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: he's been you know, he's I've had several people Michael Young,

1297
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: tract dude, Michael Young. He's a huge Paul McCartney fan,

1298
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, yep, I won't see him anymore because

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01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's just not the same. I mean, I

1300
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: get it right. I think it's mostly a singalong concert

1301
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just one of those I'm like, look, the

1302
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to sing along Hey Jude with

1303
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney. I just want to do it once. I

1304
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: want to do it once. But I'm curious for anybody

1305
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: that has seen Paul McCartney in concert. I have not.

1306
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of concerts. I've not seen

1307
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney. For anybody who has seen Paul McCartney in concert,

1308
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: is this like how much of his fastball does he

1309
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: still have? I think, you know, he's a remarkably youthful

1310
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: looking and sounding guy and everything else when you see

1311
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: interviews in it. But getting out onto a stage and

1312
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: doing the show, I am genuinely curious for anybody. And

1313
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: we're going out there because Denver is Shannon's hometown, so

1314
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean she actually leaves today, she's on her way

1315
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: there now, right now, and we'll get out there before

1316
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: I do. And we're going to be back. I mean

1317
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: we're literally cracking on Sunday morning back and then Colts

1318
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: and Cardinals on Sunday. But genuinely curious from anybody shoot

1319
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: me a text or let me know, send me a tweet,

1320
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, whether or not, like, am I

1321
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: going to go out there basically and be like, what

1322
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: in the world is happening here? Or is it? Do

1323
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: you think does it still? Does he still have the

1324
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: same flow, the same energy, the same sound that he did,

1325
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: say ten years ago. I'm not expecting to go out

1326
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: there and feel like I'm watching the Beatles in nineteen

1327
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: sixty five. Don't get me wrong, right, Jake saw Paul

1328
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,520
Speaker 1: McCartney twice in the last ten years. Both were amazing concerts,

1329
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: not just sing alongs. The guy has an incredible amount

1330
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: of energy and performed tremendously. That's cool?

1331
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: Is that?

1332
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the overwhelming sentiment? Do you have

1333
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: a favorite Paul McCartney song Eddie do you not? Or

1334
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: Beatles song m.

1335
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: Hey Dude Solid? You know, I hadn't heard it until,

1336
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: you know, last year.

1337
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way that you were that

1338
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: the that I introduced you to. Hey, Jude, that is

1339
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: legitimately impossible.

1340
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 2: No, it's possible.

1341
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: How many times have you listen to it since? You see?

1342
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: There are three things that I've introduced you to that

1343
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: I think deep down you are actually thankful for. Okay

1344
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: them one huh we know? Number one Fast Time's a original?

1345
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: The Java House peel Pods, right yeah, and then hey Jude,

1346
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: right yeah, twist and shout probably and wait until you

1347
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: see Shawshank once. Once you see Shawshank, you're gonna be like, yeah, okay,

1348
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: can I tell you something?

1349
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 7: M hm.

1350
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: I was scrolling through the TV Guy the other day.

1351
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: I think it was sad last Saturday, okay, and I

1352
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: was scrolling through. It was like, hey, look, Shawshank just started.

1353
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: I can watch this. And I was like, Olivia goes, no,

1354
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: we're not watching this. I'm like, why, I've never seen it.

1355
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: Jake swears it's a grace movie of all the time.

1356
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 2: She goes, it's not that good.

1357
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 6: No.

1358
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, we're not watching this. So are

1359
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: you using tender or bumble to find your next girlfriend?

1360
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: Neither? Neither Jake. So she did not watch it. She

1361
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: just watched him. But she just doesn't understand.

1362
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: This from your only friend, Alec, I'm disgusted that Eddie

1363
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: did not know Hey Jude before last year. Yes, I know, Jack.

1364
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: We saw McCartney several years ago. I could not believe

1365
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: the energy that he brought to the concert, and it

1366
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: was a lot more than just to sing along. Hey Jake,

1367
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: tell Eddie he needs to get divorced, not engaged or married.

1368
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: Listen Shawshank may okay, now we only have thirty female listeners.

1369
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: That's right, but I'm curious of money nine.

1370
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: We're still looking for thirty. I think yesterday we determined, oh,

1371
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: Candice had already called, so we were back down to

1372
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: twenty nine.

1373
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: Jenny yesterday texted me. Remember I said that we had

1374
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: Jenny sent me in. Tell that's said that she was aforementioned.

1375
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: So she is thirty. So we are sitting on thirty

1376
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: of female listeners, we think, But among our thirty female listeners,

1377
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: I would like if we have a female listener, for

1378
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: a female listener to call in at two, three, nine,

1379
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: ten seventy right now and let us know whether or

1380
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: not Shawshank Redemption is in fact just a guy movie

1381
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: or are there because that may be the case. It

1382
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: may be it might mean that it's just a guy's movie.

1383
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: I would like to know if there's a woman out

1384
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 1: there that has seen Shawshank, their overall opinion of Shawshank,

1385
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,879
Speaker 1: and whether or not you're getting bum advice, because I'm telling.

1386
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: You good call Eddie about your girlfriend. It's overrated. Vic

1387
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: in the company break.

1388
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: Room Tracy Forner the best, my spirit animal. My wife says,

1389
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Shawshank is a remote dropper. You gotta watch. Yes, Yes,

1390
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think we might actually have this

1391
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: is stunning. More than thirty female listeners. Taylor Tannebaum, by

1392
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: the way, is one of those. She's going to join

1393
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: us coming up two o'clock. I want to get the

1394
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: latest on this situation. I know that nobody here cares

1395
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: about North Carolina or the ACC, but Bill Belichick and

1396
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: everything that's going on there, I'm fascinated by it. A

1397
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: couple of calls on that in terms of Shawshank and McCartney,

1398
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: and we'll get back into the Colts conversation. We'll do

1399
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: it all next Okay, so we got two things going

1400
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: on here. I mentioned that I'm going to see McCartney

1401
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: coming up Saturday at Coors Field in Denver and was

1402
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: curious whether or not he is still kind of the

1403
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, am I going to be disappointed or is

1404
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,520
Speaker 1: it going to be good? And basically emphatically everybody has said,

1405
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: like right here, he can't hit all the high notes,

1406
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: but he puts on a heck of a show, two

1407
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: and a half hours of singing you love all the

1408
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: songs and will really enjoy Livin Let Die. I've had

1409
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: several people tell me that about Livin Let Die, that

1410
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: he really goes all out for that. I really want

1411
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: to see it. So long as he plays Hey Jude,

1412
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: then I'm cool with it. I mean, that's the bottom line. Okay. Now,

1413
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: the other thing is Eddie just said that Shawshank, which

1414
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: he has never seen. Okay, the other day he it

1415
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: was on television and his girlfriend Olivia said, no, I

1416
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: don't want to watch it because it is overrated. So

1417
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: I then asked the question, is it possible that it

1418
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: is in fact just a guy movie? Okay? So Nick,

1419
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: I'll get to you in second on McCartney, but let's

1420
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: begin with Jennifer. Now, Jennifer may or may not, because

1421
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: we are in pursuit of female caller number. What are

1422
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: we on, Eddie, We're sitting on.

1423
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: Thirty to thirty, and Jennifer's a previous caller.

1424
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: So Jennifer, you are among those thirty correct, yes, sir? Okay,

1425
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: any chance that you could lie about your name and

1426
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: we could just bump it up to thirty.

1427
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,440
Speaker 4: One and well I go by Gritty Okay.

1428
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: That's it. And that here's the thing. I think last

1429
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: time I asked you the same thing and you went

1430
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: with gritty there, so we're still stuck on thirty. Okay, Jennifer,

1431
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: you have or have not seen Shawshank. Eddie's not seen it,

1432
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: and at some point we're gonna watch it together, so

1433
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: no spoilers on it. But you have seen the movie

1434
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: or you have not.

1435
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 8: I have seen the movie.

1436
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: Yes, on a one to ten. Now let me ask

1437
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: you this, Jennifer, what would you get What is Jennifer's

1438
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: like ultimate film? What is the ultimate measuring stick bar

1439
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,440
Speaker 1: number one film in Jennifer's filmography.

1440
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 8: Well, it depends if it's a comedy or a drama.

1441
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 8: But if I'm thinking probably gosh, I hate.

1442
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 9: I really liked Fargo. I liked the whole story of

1443
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 9: it and the accine.

1444
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So based on that, if you're giving Fargo a ten,

1445
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: you put Shawshank at what five? So you think it's overrated?

1446
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 9: It's a good movie, but I don't need to see

1447
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 9: it again.

1448
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: You've only seen it once?

1449
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 3: Yep?

1450
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so is it in your opinion? Would you listen

1451
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: as a guy film?

1452
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: I would say so?

1453
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1454
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so we got one vote. You're getting

1455
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: some support there, Eddie. Let's check in with Connie. Listener

1456
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: number twenty five is Connie. Connie, how are you hi?

1457
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 4: I'm good, Thank you, Connie?

1458
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: What's just out of curiosity? It's a gorgeous day on

1459
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: a Thursday. What's what's a what's a sunny Thursday? Other

1460
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: than this radio program, which we greatly appreciate you making time?

1461
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: What's Thursday looking like? For Connie? What are you out?

1462
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: What are we out doing today?

1463
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 10: We are running over to Anderson to get Tony.

1464
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: Dos, Tony Dogs, and Anderson jeans.

1465
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, Jean's drive in.

1466
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: Jean's drive in and Anderson. Okay, that sounds like actually

1467
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: a fun trip. Okay, So, Connie, you have or have

1468
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,959
Speaker 1: not seen Shawshank Redemption?

1469
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 10: I have many times?

1470
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: And your gold standard of film is what movie?

1471
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 7: I know?

1472
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 10: I like so many different shows, but I probably like

1473
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 10: the like the eighties Breakfast Club and sixteen k all

1474
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 10: of that.

1475
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, so if Breakfast Club or sixteen Candles

1476
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: or any John Hughes film is the gold standard and

1477
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: is a ten, you put Shawshank as.

1478
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 10: A what like probably a seven or eight. It's probably

1479
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 10: better writing.

1480
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it. Okay, I thought it really good.

1481
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: Is it a guy film?

1482
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 10: My husband's one who introduced me to it. Probably wouldn't

1483
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 10: have watched it without him, but I thought it was great.

1484
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 10: And like I said, I've watched it multiple times with

1485
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 10: him since, so I don't know if it's completely a

1486
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 10: guy film.

1487
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: But okay, now, no spoiler, Connie, no spoiler alert. But

1488
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,959
Speaker 1: the scene, the scene where you go, oh my gosh.

1489
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: Every time you watch it you still say, oh my gosh. Right, okay,

1490
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: see Connie, Connie gets what I'm She's picking up what

1491
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm dropping, Eddie. Is what we're saying. Thank you. Connie

1492
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Conny by the way, from now on, Just

1493
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: so you know, Connie, when you go to jeans, they're

1494
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: now known as Connie Dogs. Okay, yeah, no problem. Yeah,

1495
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: they're going to change him on the menu, Eddie. That's

1496
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: what we do here. We have the power of that

1497
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Speaker 1: within the company. All right, But let's go to Nick

1498
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: real quick. Nick, what's up?

1499
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 8: Never better?

1500
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: Jake?

1501
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 8: How are you?

1502
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm good? Have you called the program before?

1503
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 7: Nick?

1504
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 8: I have and we shook hands and talked about radio

1505
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 8: at the State Fair when.

1506
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: You had your on site, And was I a nice

1507
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: guy or was I jerk?

1508
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 8: Oh what a nice guy? I don't know that Eddie

1509
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 8: would agree with that sentiment, but I don't work for you.

1510
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, see, he acts nice to everyone else so that

1511
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: he can boost his ego by asking people those types

1512
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: of questions.

1513
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: Listen that trust me. Trust me, I'm running a huge

1514
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: risk when I asked publicly to somebody was I a

1515
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: nice guy or not? Because you just never know depending

1516
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: on the day. Okay, Nick, you have seen paublack Barney

1517
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: or you've not seen Paul.

1518
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 8: McCartney before we get to McCartney. Before we get to McCartney,

1519
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 8: the leading woman in the Shawshank Revenge Shawshank is Rita Hayworth. Okay,

1520
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 8: so I think you need to bring that into context.

1521
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. No spoilers here, okay, but rockel

1522
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: Welch is a pretty big lead in it as well.

1523
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: Although you do actually see Rita Hayworth in terms of

1524
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: a cameo, so maybe you are correct there right. As

1525
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I believe

1526
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: this to be correct. It was based on a short

1527
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: story that I believe was called Rita Hayworth and the

1528
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: Shawshank redemption. I believe that's exactly right, So you are

1529
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: probably correct there. Okay, So what am I going to

1530
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: see Saturday night?

1531
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 8: McCartney? So I will try to give you advice to

1532
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 8: go to that show, because there are certain people that

1533
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 8: are just different human beings, and I think McCartney is one.

1534
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 8: And the source that I have for that is I

1535
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 8: saw Herb Albert, of the famed Herb Albert and the

1536
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 8: Tijuana Brass, who is ninety years old at the Palladium

1537
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 8: in Carmel and was electric. And so if you know,

1538
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 8: McCartney's got seven more years to be a great show,

1539
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 8: so he doesn't even have to blow into a trumpet

1540
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 8: in order to perform for people.

1541
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen McCartney? Yeah, how recently?

1542
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 4: Not recently?

1543
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 8: But my point is is that he actually seems with it,

1544
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 8: that is active, and so like my like, I was

1545
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 8: expecting the absolute worst at the Herb Albert show and

1546
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 8: it was awesome.

1547
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's cool. I mean, I listen, and that

1548
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: is impressive. No, listen, it's impressive for any of them.

1549
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you you know, fifty three

1550
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: feels different than forty three. I can't imagine eighty three

1551
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: for certain, right, no question about that. But I'm excited

1552
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: to see and then you know, I'll report back. And Eddie,

1553
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: when are we doing our Shawshank party?

1554
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: You tell me, Jake, you're the one who said it

1555
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: would happen, and I'm still waiting. Well, now that and

1556
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: you can't put the fault on me here. If you

1557
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: watch it and you consider it a masterpiece, will you

1558
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: admit it or you now bound based on your relationship

1559
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: to downplay it? Well, See, Jake, I was pretty forthcoming

1560
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: and truthful about my review of Fast Times at Ridgemont High,

1561
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 2: so I will be honest and upfront.

1562
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, Denver is beautiful. Enjoy it. If you haven't

1563
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: been to the Red Rocks Amphitheater for a concert, it

1564
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: is a must. I have been again, like I meant so.

1565
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: Shannon grew up in Denver, moved here at the age

1566
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: of nineteen, so she actually went to Columbine High School

1567
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: before the trade of Columbine. But and her family is

1568
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: all still not all but her brothers are still there

1569
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends from high school there,

1570
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: So I have been. I've been fortunate enough to have

1571
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: been to Denver a number of times. I've been to

1572
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: Red Rocks, but never for a show. That would be

1573
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: an absolute mud I mean, that would be a bucket

1574
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: list thing to see a show at Red Rocks. I

1575
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: actually looked at their schedule this year and there weren't

1576
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: as many acts. That was overall of intrigue to me.

1577
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: But beautiful area for certain, definitely a beautiful area.

1578
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: Do you think the rocks were not red enough?

1579
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: Jake? Is that why no listen? Red Rocks was? Actually

1580
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: it's so it's coral rocks that are all around the

1581
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: Amphitheater and that was part of the new deal after

1582
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: it was I mean, it's ninety years old at this

1583
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: point and it's it's unbelievable and one of the huge

1584
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: boulder rocks at the top of it. When Shannon was

1585
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: in high school, she and her friends climbed it, which

1586
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: is highly illegal, and they didn't know it at the time.

1587
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: I don't know they didn't know it at the time.

1588
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: She has a picture of herself up on top of it,

1589
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, okay, so.

1590
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: You got banish from his ac and Shake, and she.

1591
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: Totally right, She's climbing Red Rocks and I'm getting banned

1592
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: for life from Steak and.

1593
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Shake Matt made in heaven. Jake, look at that, you

1594
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 2: two love birds.

1595
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: Well listen, that was the steak and shake at eighty

1596
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: six and Westfield. It's now a crew car wash, and

1597
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: strangely enough, I'm not allowed to go through there either. Really,

1598
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I was having a monthly pass or whatever. Gradually, okay, well,

1599
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: come back the Colts. In terms of getting set for Arizona.

1600
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: Is it possible It's going to be a look in

1601
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: the mirror. I'll explain what I mean next. Colts Cardinals

1602
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. And there is increased

1603
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: possibility if you're just joining the program.

1604
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: Where have you been? I turned your mic on, even

1605
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: though it was already on. I forgot to turn mic on.

1606
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,879
Speaker 1: We were just talking to Darren Urban from the Arizona

1607
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com and he was saying, Kyler Murray, you know,

1608
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: there is increased possibility that, in fact, it will be

1609
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett that the Colts could face on Sunday. And

1610
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 1: this just in.

1611
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray not at practice again today.

1612
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: He has a toe injury and or foot injury up.

1613
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: But you know he is a dynamic you know, I

1614
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: think he's actually Kyler Murray might be Arizona's leading rusher

1615
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: at this point, and part of that is by design.

1616
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously put him in position to get

1617
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: in space, and he's a dynamic quarterback. The way that

1618
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: you prepare, I think is completely different if you know

1619
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: you're going to face Jacobe Prissett. Obviously, let me rephrase that,

1620
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: it's you prepare just based on this is our defense,

1621
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do, and then you

1622
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: see which one you're going up against. I don't know

1623
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: that you like design entirely your defense based on the

1624
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: anticipation of one versus the other. But Arizona in terms

1625
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: of their offense and the way that they want to

1626
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: do things. You know, Darren was saying, there's not the

1627
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: body of work to know exactly what you get from

1628
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett, but you have a general idea. We know

1629
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis Brissett is more of the ball control,

1630
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: shorter yardage reception type quarterback. And look, we can put

1631
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: poo Jacoby Brissette all we want from the time that

1632
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: he was here in India in the fact that there

1633
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: was nothing over the dynamic about him. But you know,

1634
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: what clearly, the guy is a solid teammate and a

1635
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: reliable player that you know what you're getting because he's

1636
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: made a living in the NFL with different franchises. You know.

1637
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: I remember talking to someone from an NBA standpoint that

1638
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: had been in the league for a really long time,

1639
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and they they essentially said, yeah, I mean, let's be real,

1640
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I lasted an extra five years in the league just

1641
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: by being a good teammate. I mean, there wasn't a lot,

1642
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, I was an end of the BA guy

1643
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: by then. But if you are a good teammate that's

1644
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: ready when your number is called, you can make a

1645
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: good living for a long time. And Brissette probably is

1646
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: there now. But I don't think schematically that you change

1647
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: things a lot. But you're going to be going you know,

1648
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: you're probably going to see more throws to the tight end,

1649
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: even though Kyler Murray does that. Arizona has not been

1650
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: able to really get their running game completely uncorked, and

1651
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior is just now starting to, I think,

1652
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: show the traits that we anticipated or expected of him

1653
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. He has been inconsistent, he has

1654
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: at times because I do think that receiver, like we've

1655
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: talked about with kicker, can become kind of a mental

1656
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: position or a rhythm position, and so he has Marvin

1657
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: Harrison to this point not found the stability or the

1658
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: consistency that he had in college where he was a

1659
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: walking first down. And it is interesting because if you

1660
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: think about when he was in I mean everyone and

1661
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: I get why, you know, I mean the narrative of

1662
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: like the Colts need to I'm telling you right now,

1663
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Jim Mersey, They're gonna do everything they can to get

1664
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior. R S loves Marvin Harrison junior. He

1665
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 1: wants to reunite the man I get all that wonderful player.

1666
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: But man, you were mentioning, was it Thursday night football,

1667
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Eddie where he had like two of the first three

1668
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: passes thrown his way.

1669
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they pretty much had trouble getting to him.

1670
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: And then late in the fourth quarter they're like, you know,

1671
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 2: this guy's pretty good. You know, we'll just love the

1672
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: ball up to him, see if he can catch it.

1673
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: He comes down with two fifty to fifty balls, One

1674
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: results in a touchdown that ties the game late in

1675
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and the other one set them up

1676
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: to be in position to score that said touchdown, and

1677
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: then last week he leads the game off with like

1678
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: a forty six yard reception and then the numbers nothing like.

1679
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: That's just been the story so far through a season

1680
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: and five games now for Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior.

1681
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: They just seemingly cannot get on the same page. And

1682
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's some underlying metrics that we

1683
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: need to look at from a statistical standpoint to say,

1684
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: like maybe just the fact that his name was Marvin

1685
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. We overhyped him a little bit and maybe

1686
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't you know, the greatest thing since sliced bread?

1687
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: This from Angie and Fisher's Shawshank is definitely one of

1688
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: the movies that you watch whenever you are scrolling, you

1689
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: cannot scroll past it. See. I also got a.

1690
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: Eddie put a ring on her finger this weekend.

1691
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I got one of those. I don't know if it

1692
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: was me or to you. That's a good question, is

1693
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: that somebody saying that you need to put a ring

1694
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: on it because they don't like Shawshank, or I need

1695
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: to because we're going to Denver together.

1696
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: Somebody else said I've got Shawshank TV yard have never

1697
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 2: seen it before watching because our show, well, thank you.

1698
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: You know what's weird is you know how you can

1699
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: now with like DVR? You know you can you just

1700
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: hit record and then it just saves. My DVR is

1701
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: full of hoarders. Here's another one.

1702
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Eddie needs to drop as fast as the Reds dropped

1703
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. Shot Shank is a top two

1704
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 2: movie of all time only for me, second to only

1705
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: Here's uh not happening on the dropping her though not

1706
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: happening Okay, Jake.

1707
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I saw Dave Matthews at Red Rocks, one of the

1708
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: best concerts ever matt and Avon. I think the cool

1709
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: thing about seeing Dave. The only drawback I should say

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01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: I've seen Dave Matthews and Red Rocks is you're seeing

1711
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews. You know. I used to say that about shows.

1712
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I used to be kind of a concert snob where

1713
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I was like the Dave Matthews thing, I don't get it,

1714
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: like people that travel around and see them all over

1715
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: the place whatever else. And then I had this epiphany

1716
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: where when I went to that show this summer with

1717
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: my cousin and we went to go see the two

1718
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: shows of Oasis in Manchester. And I know I've talked

1719
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: a lot about that show, but literally one hundred thousand

1720
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: people in this park, and I'm looking around and like

1721
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: people were emotional, and now they hadn't played in twenty years,

1722
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: but and that's their hometown, so it meant a lot

1723
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: to people. But as I was looking around and I'm

1724
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: seeing and I'm sharing in this euphoria with other people,

1725
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and then I realized what this song means to me

1726
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: means something different to that guy and that woman and

1727
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: that kid over there, but it means something to all

1728
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: four of us, even though individually it might be a

1729
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: different meaning, it is amongst the soundtrack that is paralleled

1730
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,480
Speaker 1: for all of us, and that unity and that experience

1731
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: was It's a unique experience and one that you can't

1732
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:57,520
Speaker 1: just create out of nothing. And so therefore I understand

1733
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: and I respect now, or have a better understanding in

1734
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: respect out of people that when I would say, like

1735
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand why people tour with Dave Matthews are

1736
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: the grateful Dead or whatever else, I get it because

1737
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:14,520
Speaker 1: being able to experiencing that common bond with total strangers

1738
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: and enjoying the euphoria of a moment is very cool.

1739
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: So I get it. I mean I joke about it,

1740
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: but I totally get it. This from Anthony Shawshank a

1741
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: top ten movie. Eddie, You're allowed to You are allowed

1742
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: to watch TV without her. Yes, come by and at

1743
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: some point we will do I am. I do think

1744
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Eddie as somebody who has grown up around sports and

1745
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: been around it. I do think that you will watch

1746
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: it and have an appreciation for it. I think you'll say,

1747
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, what's a great movie. Taylor Tannebaum is Do

1748
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: we count Taylor as a female listener. No, she's with

1749
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the ACC Network. She is from WTHR Channel thirteen. She's

1750
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: always a fun guest. We're gonna ask her shaw Shank,

1751
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: and we're also going to find out what the hell's

1752
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: going on with one of the coaching nemesis of Indiana,

1753
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. We'll do it all next two o'clock on

1754
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: a gorgeous Thursday in Indianapolis. For that matter, it's two

1755
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: o'clock everywhere in the Eastern time zone. My name is

1756
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: Jake Query. Eddie Garrison, who has not seen shaw Shank

1757
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: is the other voice that you hear on this show.

1758
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: We call it Querry and Company. James Boyd, who you

1759
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: hear in the morning, is going to be joining us

1760
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: just about thirty minutes from now. Get you up to

1761
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: speed real quick on what is going on. The Pacers

1762
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: have a new point guard in terms of their number

1763
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: three point guard because they released Delon Wright, not because

1764
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: of the injury he suffered in preseason game number one

1765
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: where he received ten stitches, but they waived him and

1766
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: they now have signed Cam Payne, who has been Cameron

1767
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Payne played a little bit of everywhere in the NBA,

1768
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: most recently with the New York Knicks. He is in

1769
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: the mix. As for the Colts and Cardinals, we just

1770
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 1: told you Kyler Murray still not practicing with that foot injury.

1771
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 1: We will Eddie, I believe Alec Pierce back on the

1772
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: practice field. James Boyd will be able to give us

1773
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: a complete update on who was in and who was

1774
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 1: out for practice anymore.

1775
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 2: Was not practicing again today, so that's.

1776
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Not good again a big one. So we shall see

1777
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: and we will get caught up on all of that

1778
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: coming up in just about thirty minutes. But joining us

1779
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: now on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.

1780
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: She of course from WTHR Channel thirteen, where she would

1781
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: be known in Indianapolis, but also friend of the show

1782
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: and now with the ACC Network and ESPN. Taylor tannebo,

1783
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm joining us. That was a huge saw you just

1784
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: let out, Tyler Taylor, everything going Okay?

1785
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 9: No, I was laughing. I love the intro and I'm

1786
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 9: just happy to be with you guys.

1787
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, well, we're happy to have you. I'm

1788
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: going to begin with this has nothing to do with sports.

1789
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: I know that's shocking to you. Are you ready?

1790
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,440
Speaker 9: Oh?

1791
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Shawshank Redemption? You have her? Have not seen it?

1792
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I have, Eddie and I are having this discussion. Eddie

1793
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Garrison has not seen the movie. No spoiler alert. But

1794
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: I'll begin with this. I'm not gonna lead the witness. Okay,

1795
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: yes or no? It is a guy film.

1796
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: No, let me ask.

1797
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 9: You it like for like like for guys, like it's

1798
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 9: just like a like a guy's kind of film, like

1799
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 9: toward women.

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01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Like Beaches is a chick flick, right? So is Shawshank

1801
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: a dude film?

1802
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 9: I don't think so. I wouldn't consider that.

1803
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: In Taylor Tannembaum's like movie listings, What is your give

1804
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: me your krem De la Creme movie, the movie that like,

1805
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's the one that is it.

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01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 9: You're gonna embarrass me, really, Shawshank is one of my

1807
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 9: favorite movies. But you're gonna embarrass me on radio right now,

1808
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 9: aren't you. I'm not embarrassed to say this. I'm first

1809
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 9: of all, not an avid movie watcher. I'm much more

1810
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 9: of like a docu series, watch a show binge it,

1811
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 9: so it's sort of like a movie. I'm just like,

1812
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 9: if you ask me if I fe movie, I probably

1813
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 9: haven't seen it. My all time favorite movie is Twister,

1814
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 9: Like I've seen it four thousand times. If it's on TV,

1815
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 9: I'm watching it. If it's on an airplane, I'm watching it.

1816
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, we're talking to the original Philip Seymour

1817
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: Hoffmann version right, yes, the og. Now here's the thing.

1818
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna totally laugh so long as you agree

1819
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: to this, okay, And if you don't agree with this,

1820
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: then we're gonna laugh at you and mock you. Okay.

1821
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't disagree that it's great, but it's great in

1822
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: the same form that's Saved by the Bell is great.

1823
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: And by that I mean it's so cheesy you can't

1824
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: quit watching, no question.

1825
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 9: And you know what happens at the end every single time.

1826
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 9: But I'm gonna watch it every single time. Like there's

1827
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 9: cows flying, they drive through a full blown house from

1828
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 9: roof to and like, come on now, like the Twisters

1829
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 9: look like they've been just like drawn in. It's pretty

1830
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 9: good though, you know, as long as you look past

1831
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,520
Speaker 9: all that stuff, it's pretty realistic.

1832
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: Okay. So so here's the thing. It's a perfect segue.

1833
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: And I actually it's interesting, Taylor because I texted you

1834
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: and said, hey, can you come on? And you said sure,

1835
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: And you didn't even ask for what it was for

1836
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: the reasoning that I wanted to have you on. Now,

1837
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: if you had to guess, what is the reason? What

1838
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: is the storyline? What is the thing that I need

1839
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: you to edge mcate me? What is it that what

1840
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: is the story that I want to talk about?

1841
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 9: That Carolina is a bleep show?

1842
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: Bingo? So it is Twister right North Carolina football, And

1843
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: again I realized we're in Big ten country. But Bill Belichick,

1844
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is the guy that I

1845
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: don't need to tell people. Here the history of Bill Belichick,

1846
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: and he goes to North Carolina and it has been

1847
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: so far an utter disaster. So first off, give me,

1848
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: you know, the the ninety second summary of just where

1849
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: we are and how we got here.

1850
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 9: So how we got here as the end of last year.

1851
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 9: Toward the end of last year, Mac Brown was relieved

1852
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 9: of his duty. He's after a six and sixth season.

1853
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 9: This is the Hall of Fame head coach and Matt

1854
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 9: Brown who before anything else, the players come first, and

1855
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 9: that's what he's known for. He's a people person. But

1856
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 9: they felt like they wanted to change at the Helm.

1857
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 9: Understand respect it. I love Bubba Cunningham, their athletic director.

1858
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 9: He's a wonderful mind in terms of Carolina and also

1859
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 9: college athletics as a whole. He's been on the board

1860
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 9: for the NCAA Basketball selection Committee. YadA, YadA. So they

1861
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 9: decided they're going to go in a different direction. And

1862
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 9: you're thinking, this day and age in college football, you

1863
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 9: go young, you go innovative, you go someone I don't know,

1864
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 9: up and coming fresh who can relate to the kids.

1865
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 9: They go seventy three year old Bill Belichick, now the

1866
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 9: oldest coach in all of college football. That's the direction

1867
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 9: they decided to go and from learning and listening and

1868
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 9: everything that's been gathered, Ah, that wasn't necessarily the direction

1869
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 9: the athletic department would have gone. But you know, there's

1870
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 9: people with big pockets and big voices in terms of

1871
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 9: the board of trustees and other people involved, and they

1872
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 9: wanted to bring in someone the name of Bill Belichick,

1873
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 9: who has won at the highest level and has won

1874
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 9: eight Super Bowl six of the head coach, and they

1875
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 9: thought that that would up the recruiting. It would obviously

1876
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 9: excite the fan base, and this would be a different

1877
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 9: approach in a world that has turned very professional as

1878
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 9: opposed to amateur. Well, that appears that has not been

1879
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 9: the case. It has not worked out. The record speaks

1880
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 9: for itself. They have two wins this season, none of

1881
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 9: which are against FBS opponents. They are pretty much at

1882
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 9: the bottom of every single statistical category offensively defensively, when

1883
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 9: it comes to not just in the ACC but all

1884
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 9: of the entire country. They're in like one thirties and

1885
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 9: below in all the major statistical categories. And there seems

1886
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 9: to be a ton of turmoil and discord and disconnection

1887
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 9: within the locker room and within the building. So the

1888
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 9: school did put out a statement and said we were

1889
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 9: sticking behind our coach, and then Bill Belichick in that

1890
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 9: statement said I am here at Carolina and that's where

1891
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 9: we stand right now.

1892
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing, Taylor, when I guess a

1893
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: two part conversation on this, when when a coach, a

1894
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 1: coach like a Belichick seemingly would have the track record

1895
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: where if he were to come out and say, look,

1896
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: I've got to I'm going to put my footprint on this.

1897
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: We're going to do things my way, and there's going

1898
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: to be some navigation that needs to go through that

1899
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: before we you know, we are turning around a program,

1900
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: we're putting our own stamp on it, and you know

1901
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: that's going to take some time, right and so therefore

1902
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 1: you could go with that, or then the other side

1903
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: of it is this guy's completely out of touch. He

1904
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: has no idea how to talk to college kids. And

1905
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady won him a bunch of games and we

1906
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: got fooled into thing and he's a genius. Is the

1907
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: truth somewhere in the middle there, or you know what

1908
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: has led for to go this far down?

1909
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 9: I do think the truth is somewhere in the middle

1910
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 9: there Obviously the man knows how to win. I don't

1911
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 9: think there's a question about that. But there is that

1912
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 9: asterisk there that he did most of his winning with

1913
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 9: a all time great and Tom Brady at the quarterback position,

1914
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 9: and what happened once that marriage was no longer. You

1915
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 9: could say that was just coincidence and that it was

1916
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 9: time for a change for everybody involved. Sure, but maybe

1917
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 9: you're seeing more of the other side of that now.

1918
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 9: But I do think the other side of the coin

1919
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 9: is while he does know how to win, Yes, college

1920
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 9: football has gone more pro and farther away from amateurism

1921
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 9: than ever before, but it is still different than the NFL.

1922
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 9: It still requires different rules, It still requires eighteen to

1923
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 9: twenty two to twenty three year old young men. It

1924
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 9: still requires you building relationships with not just the young men,

1925
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 9: but their extended families, because at the end of the day,

1926
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 9: these parents are sending off their kids to you, their trust,

1927
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 9: seeing you with their life essentially, and I think that's

1928
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 9: where there's a bit of a disconnect. I'm not in

1929
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 9: these living rooms, I'm not in the locker room, so

1930
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 9: I can't say for sure, but I think there is

1931
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 9: a level to this that that hasn't been matched by

1932
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 9: this regime. In Bill Belichick's regime, that is misunderstood because

1933
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 9: that's the part that's different than the pro and college level.

1934
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 9: These are still young men and they still do have

1935
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:31,560
Speaker 9: another job and going to school, and you know, transparency

1936
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 9: is really important, and there hasn't been a ton of

1937
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 9: transparency with the program. Like Bill Belichick's not very accessible

1938
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 9: to local media, the players haven't been very accessible to

1939
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 9: local media. And I think that too, was maybe not

1940
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 9: the right approach when you're opening up the doors to

1941
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 9: try to build something new, Like people want to learn,

1942
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 9: people want to know, and when you shut people out,

1943
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 9: they tend to ask more questions. And I think that's

1944
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 9: what we're getting now. And people are frustrated and people

1945
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 9: are upset because there's been a massive investment. And if

1946
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 9: you want to say this as a rebuild, to me,

1947
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 9: it's not. This wasn't a program like in Turmoil. They've

1948
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 9: gone to Bowl games in twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

1949
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 9: twenty four. You're watching Drake may do what he's doing

1950
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 9: with the Patriots, Like this isn't a program that has

1951
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 9: some deep, rich history of winning championships. But they were

1952
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 9: solid and competitive in the Atlantic Coast Conference and they

1953
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 9: were playing for an ACC championship in twenty twenty two.

1954
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 9: So where they are today is actually a far cry

1955
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 9: from where they were three years ago. And this is

1956
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 9: with an entire new approach and a new coaching staff,

1957
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 9: where you expected it to go.

1958
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 7: The other way.

1959
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny Taylor in any walk of sport

1960
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,799
Speaker 1: and any level, whether we're talking about the Colts, the Pacers,

1961
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Indiana Purdue, or North Carolina football and the Patriots, the

1962
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: separation between eccentric mad scientist and Prickley has been out

1963
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: of touch. Guys wins, right, I mean literally, that's I mean,

1964
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the method to the madness when you are getting results

1965
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: is one thing. And then when you're not, you see,

1966
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean obviously how it ended in New England and

1967
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: all of it. Right lastly, and then I want to

1968
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: talk to you about some stuff locally, but it would

1969
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: seem from afar. You know, I watched that. I was

1970
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: curious because of Belichick and listen, you know, in covering

1971
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: so many Colts Patriots games and going to Foxborough and

1972
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: for the week leading up and you know, seeing kind

1973
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: of that glimpse behind the curtain a little bit. I

1974
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: was curious how it would go in Chapel Hill. I

1975
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: watched game number one and there's, you know, there's this buzz.

1976
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: It was Deonic Colorado. It was this energy and this excitement,

1977
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: and Jordan's there and Dean and excuse Roy Williams is there,

1978
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: and you know, people are are super stoked and it's

1979
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: this star studded event. And then they went out and

1980
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: just absolutely fell flat on their face. And now it

1981
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: seems like they're going to take the little crumb. And

1982
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how little we're talking about with an

1983
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: NCAA violation that supposedly he's being investigated for. But from

1984
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Afar Taylor, what it seems like is there is now

1985
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: a group of influential people at Carolina that if they

1986
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: haven't out, they're going to take it. Is that fair?

1987
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 9: Yes, you know they put out these statements to squash

1988
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 9: that beef, But from what I've heard, there are where

1989
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 9: there's smoke, there's fire, and there are some rumblings in

1990
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 9: there that people are looking for a way out. Whether

1991
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 9: it be one side or the other, whether it's Bill's

1992
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 9: camp or whether it's you know, the school's camp, I'm

1993
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 9: not entirely clear but yeah, those rumblings, there's something to it.

1994
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 9: But then they put out a statement saying we're committed

1995
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 9: to each other. But statements are statements, and I guess

1996
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 9: it's just words.

1997
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 7: Typed on a sheet of paper.

1998
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 9: I don't know how much benefit it would do to

1999
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 9: do right now, Like I look at the coaching staff.

2000
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,520
Speaker 9: I'm being serious, Jake, and I'm like, if Bill Belichick

2001
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 9: were no longer the head coach, who the heck is

2002
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 9: taking over this football team?

2003
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday, Baby, Jeff Saturday. He's used to it. Man,

2004
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 1: He's a Carolina guy, right, Yeah, I know.

2005
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 9: I'm serious, like truthfully, because that's been a big point

2006
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 9: of contention with this staff, is like who really has

2007
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 9: true mc double a winning experience on this coaching staff.

2008
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 9: Forget the roster, which has seventy new players. That's why

2009
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 9: I feel bad for is these players. Regardless of what

2010
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 9: happens at the Helm. If Bill Belichick and the school

2011
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 9: were to mutually part ways today, cool whatever, they're hiring

2012
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 9: a new head coach. You know who doesn't get this

2013
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 9: year back? These players, they don't get this year back.

2014
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 9: They've played what five games? I mean, you know, it's

2015
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 9: not like the NCAA is going to be like, hey,

2016
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 9: you guys were screwed this year, We're going to give

2017
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,720
Speaker 9: you a year back for That's never gonna happen, first

2018
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 9: of all, but you know, they lose that, and I'm

2019
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 9: I'm disappointed for them. Maybe they can turn it around,

2020
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 9: and I want to hope the best for Carolina because

2021
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 9: this is a brand that has potential to be good.

2022
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 9: But man, right now, it's as bad as it could

2023
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 9: possibly be.

2024
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: So you're you're traveling, you you are currently you said

2025
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 1: you have a game this weekend? Right, votech in Georgia Tech?

2026
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: Is that right?

2027
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 5: Yes?

2028
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 9: We were heading to Atlanta to the undefeated Jackets.

2029
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, hey listen, they're tough, man, I can tell you

2030
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that much. Okay, So when you are traveling and you're

2031
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: on planes or whatever else, I want to know the

2032
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: last three shows or docu series that you you binged ooh.

2033
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,719
Speaker 9: Well, currently, right now, on my television as I prep,

2034
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 9: I'm watching Dateline Big, Dateline Girl. When I'm on a

2035
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 9: plane lately, I'm on a Wicked kick Like I've seen

2036
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 9: Wicked a ton of times now too, but I inevitably

2037
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 9: always fall asleep on a plane. I'm like a baby

2038
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 9: in motion, I fall asleep, so wicked has been one

2039
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 9: of them. And then you know, I'm watching sports, you know,

2040
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 9: I'm catching up on the day's event. So those are

2041
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 9: really my three things. But where there's a dateline, there

2042
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 9: is a tailor.

2043
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 7: I can assure you.

2044
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the dateline thing. A lot of

2045
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: people that are on dateline are wicked. We know that much, right,

2046
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of that going on

2047
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: there you go. But when I watch it, I'm a

2048
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: dateline cheater. So I'll watch. I'm starting, I look it up.

2049
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm like wait, because then I get fascinated by it,

2050
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, like these are real people, like

2051
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: real stuff. You know this, did you? And then I begin,

2052
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 1: this is what And when I say this, this is

2053
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 1: going to sound so incredibly bizarre and whatever, right, right,

2054
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 1: But when I see some of these stories on dateline,

2055
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: because they're always about crimes, right, They're always like some

2056
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: crime of passion or whatever else. And then and hear

2057
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: me for what I'm going to say here without it

2058
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: sounding terribly perverse or whatever else, when it comes to

2059
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: these terrible crimes that take place in these documentaries and

2060
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: everything that we then get completely invested in. Then I

2061
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: begin to wonder and ask myself what makes one of

2062
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 1: them more like intriguing or fascinating than another, because in reality,

2063
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: especially in twenty twenty five, like I mean, this stuff's

2064
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: happening like all the time, right, you know what I mean?

2065
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, So, how do they pick which one qualifies

2066
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 1: for having an entire show done about it? Does that

2067
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: make sense?

2068
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 9: That's a great question. I wouldn't assume that people like

2069
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 9: submit their tragedy, but maybe, right maybe they do. Maybe

2070
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 9: there's a I don't know, that's a good question. I

2071
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 9: actually Dave Clausen, former head coach at wake Forest, who

2072
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 9: is now an analyst with me at ACC Network. His daughter,

2073
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 9: Courtney works at NBC and she works with Tom Yamas,

2074
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 9: and I'm going to ask her about this, this whole

2075
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 9: dateline thing and how they come about with the stories.

2076
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 9: I'm going to get back to you on this. Does

2077
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 9: an inside scoop on.

2078
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: That, I'll tell you it's not Dateline, but but I

2079
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: have to admit it's another one that like if I'm

2080
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: flipping through and it's on, I always stop. Is when

2081
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: that Chris Hansen's always interviewing the guys that are that

2082
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 1: just came for eliminating cookies with a young girl and

2083
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: to catch a predator. And then he comes out and

2084
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: he's like, what are we doing here? Here's here's my

2085
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: correspondent the course, and I always watch those.

2086
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 9: Also, right, cinematic truly, it's it's cinematic.

2087
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 2: And poetic or so than Twister.

2088
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 1: Right, we know that much more so than twist.

2089
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 4: Do you miss once again?

2090
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: And Taylor, here's the last thing for you. We have

2091
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: now determined on this program. Eddie and I have kept

2092
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: a very scientific chart on this We have thirty thirty

2093
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: female listeners. Right. We are debating whether or not we

2094
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: can make you listener number thirty one because you don't

2095
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: actually listen to the program. You don't live here, but

2096
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 1: you have to hear it when you're on with us

2097
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: from time to time. Do we count you as a

2098
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: female listener? Yeah or nay?

2099
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 9: One hundred percent. I'm a dedicated fan of the program,

2100
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 9: ivid listener as long as I can, as long as

2101
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 9: I can hear it, Yeah for sure?

2102
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 1: Sure, kind of like just repeat it all We got

2103
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: cows flying past us, the whole deal, right, all right.

2104
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech this weekend ACC and ESPN for

2105
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Taylor Tannembaum. Taylor appreciate the time. As always, we look

2106
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: forward to talking to you again. Give our best to Mitch.

2107
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 9: I will thank you, guys. You're the best.

2108
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: That's right, Mitch is her dog, Eddie, as you know, right.

2109
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm aware I heard the dog is. Don't you worry.

2110
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what's going on because one of

2111
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: the engineers just came in and it's frantically texting you

2112
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: guys back and forth. What's going on around?

2113
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are having some we were having technical issues.

2114
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: We have cows flying past us. Are we driving through wind?

2115
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: And a house that's flying past? Are we still on

2116
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel cow due to the to the delight

2117
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: of the viewers.

2118
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 2: No, we're good. We're good now. Cam's got it all

2119
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 2: squared away.

2120
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: I think people like my blue Jay's hat.

2121
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 2: People were asking why the blue Jays in the In

2122
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 2: the chat though.

2123
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I mentioned this before, but

2124
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: it's part of my genius. You ready, when did you

2125
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: did you ever collect baseball cards, Eddie? Or were baseball

2126
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: cards kind of gone by the time you were playing

2127
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: Little league?

2128
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Baseball cards were never gone, Jake. They're still out there

2129
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 2: and they're still popular.

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01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Well, but they so base baseball cards in general though. Actually,

2131
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, the seventies and eighties, really the eighties is

2132
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 1: where baseball cards like had this meteoric rise because you

2133
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: would do baseball card shows and all kinds. This is

2134
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: pre internet and all that stuff, right, And part of

2135
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: it was because part of it was because so many

2136
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,799
Speaker 1: people from the fifties, sixties, and seventies that had baseball cards,

2137
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: you know the old story, right all my mom threw

2138
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: them out of the basement, or I used them and

2139
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: the spokes of my bicycle to make the sound effect

2140
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 1: of a motorcycle and it bent up my Mickey Mantle

2141
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: card at whatever, and so so many great players that

2142
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,759
Speaker 1: the cards became collectible because it was hard to find

2143
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: mint condition cards of that era. So that spiked this

2144
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: interest of baseball cards in the seventies and eighties of look,

2145
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: this is like your future, this is your literally, these

2146
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: are your stocks. You buy these baseball cards, hold on

2147
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: to them, and you're gonna sell them. I mean, you're

2148
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 1: gonna make a ton of money off of them. Everybody

2149
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: thought this, right, and so it was a huge thing

2150
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: for childhood for a lot of kids to collect baseball cards.

2151
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that became popular was you

2152
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: send your baseball card to the stadium of the player

2153
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: and ask them to sign it with a self addressed

2154
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: stamped envelope. So you'd write to Dale Murphy, Dale Murphy,

2155
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves, you know, Fulton County Stadium, drop it in

2156
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: the mail, and in it you would have a letter

2157
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: made out to you with a stamp already on it,

2158
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: so that theoretically or feasibly, the player would get it,

2159
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,839
Speaker 1: sign the card, put it back in the envelope you provided,

2160
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: hand it back to the mailman. There it goes. Now,

2161
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: when you did this, you would get more often. If

2162
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: you got anything in return, it was usually something from

2163
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: the team itself that was like a little stamped you know,

2164
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,759
Speaker 1: a created manufactured card or photo or whatever of the player,

2165
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 1: or a sticker or something, and even that was cool

2166
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: to get for sure. When I was eleven, I believe

2167
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: my god parents, my parents' best friends had family in

2168
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Toronto and they would go like once a year to

2169
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: Toronto to visit. And so I thought, wait a minute,

2170
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: all of these kids are sending self addressed stamped envelopes

2171
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:35,879
Speaker 1: to the expos and the Blue Jays. But those players,

2172
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 1: Tim Rains and Andre Dawson and Jesse Barfield and George Bell,

2173
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: those players are signing those cards and putting them back

2174
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,520
Speaker 1: in these self addressed stamped envelopes. And then the Canadian

2175
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: mailman is saying, or postal worker, I can't take this

2176
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: that has an American stamp. It needs a Canadian stamp.

2177
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 1: Do you happen to have a Canadian stamp? And Andre

2178
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Dawson or Tim Rains or They're going, well, no, I

2179
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: don't have one on me, you know whatever, and those

2180
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: cards are getting pitched. Was this is the thinking of

2181
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: like eleven year old Jake Querry. So I say to

2182
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: John and Liz Brown, when you come back from Toronto,

2183
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 1: can you bring me a sheet of Canadian stamps? Now

2184
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't pick the ex Bos,

2185
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: they had great uniforms, but I think it was because

2186
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: John and Liz had gone to Toronto. And so I

2187
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to send a card to every

2188
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Blue Jay player. And I did, and I put the

2189
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Canadian stamp on it, and I put in my letter

2190
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: about how proud I was that I had the forethought

2191
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: of this. And I got back literally like of I

2192
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: probably sent twenty cards to Toronto and got like twelve

2193
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: of them back. I still have most of them. And

2194
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: then in eighty five they went to the ALCS with

2195
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: George Bell, Jesse Barfield, Lloyd Mosby was my favorite player.

2196
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: They later had Tony Fernandez, and then they got into

2197
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: the Roberto Alomar, Joe Carter, Dave Steve, that era of

2198
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: player and one back to back World series when I

2199
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 1: was in college in ninety two and ninety three, and

2200
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: so I've always kind of liked them. And then we

2201
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 1: go to Toronto every year for Indy Carr and I

2202
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,759
Speaker 1: got a Blue Jay's hat and they beat the Yankees.

2203
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: So I'm all in on the Blue Jays, like I'm

2204
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 1: die hard, die hard. I've watched almost three games this year.

2205
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm all in. So there's your answer. You seem unenthused

2206
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 1: by my answer? Preoccupied? Or is the world blowing up

2207
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: around us? Is that what's happening?

2208
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 2: I was just way way way too long cooled.

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01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you asked.

2210
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 2: I didn't ask people ask Yeah, but.

2211
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what's going on from you seem

2212
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: distracted by everything that's going on with people coming in.

2213
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Here, right No, we're good.

2214
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 5: We're good.

2215
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 2: We've just had a little system.

2216
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: Are David Beach, Grove Jake. Look at North Carolina's roster.

2217
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: They are young with what they have, they should be better.

2218
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: It is, I thought in the era of NIL. And

2219
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: this is why the Belichick story to me is interesting.

2220
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 1: In the NIL era, it seemed to me like North

2221
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: Carolina was thinking ahead and they were looking beyond the obvious,

2222
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: and they were going out and getting an NFL coach

2223
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 1: that's used to salary cap and used to egos and

2224
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, money and all those things.

2225
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 2: They hire a former general jilliam and Mike Tannenbaum to

2226
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 2: relation to Taylor.

2227
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: To oversee everything, right, so they had they have all

2228
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: of these aspects or pieces where it basically is like

2229
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 1: it feels like they are going to run this like

2230
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: a basically a minor league football franchise. And that's what

2231
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: it feels like. Football is going in that direction, right,

2232
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: and so you know when you when you look at

2233
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: it that way, and by the way, it's Michael Lombardi,

2234
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: right Lombardi. Yeah, But but either way, you know you're

2235
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: bringing in somebody thanks for the correction that has worked

2236
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: in the National Football League and a coach that's worked

2237
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and you're becoming this it's school.

2238
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: And what's fascinating to me is the two schools that

2239
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: had this blueprint and the other one I realized has

2240
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: been a college coach. But North Carolina at the beginning

2241
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: of this year was this year's Colorado. Like the look

2242
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: at the it literally was like a Netflix fictional movie

2243
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: or documentary about college athletics.

2244
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 2: Well, now you have the whole situation with his girlfriend,

2245
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 2: all of it.

2246
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that obviously adds the whole different

2247
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: wrinkle of it, right of just that sidebar of this

2248
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: of his girlfriend being essentially nearly the age of many

2249
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 1: of the players, et cetera. But when you watched that

2250
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: first game in Carolina, I mean it literally was like, man,

2251
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: they are turning college football on its ear and this

2252
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 1: has been a and the other thing too. If this

2253
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: was if this was pre controversy John Gruden, or if

2254
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: this was like give me an NFL coach, that's Sean McVay.

2255
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: If this was Sean McVay, I don't know that you

2256
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: have the scrutiny of the failure like you do Belichick, because.

2257
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 2: Here's a good example Jake Trent Dilfer at UAB. They

2258
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 2: are constantly one of the worst teams in college football.

2259
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: But nobody talks about him. Yes, because even though he's

2260
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: a former NFL Super Bowl champion.

2261
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Analyst, right, I mean, and you know, television and everything else,

2262
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 1: but but you don't have it's just the fact, the

2263
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: stark contrast.

2264
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Michael Vick of coaching college football too.

2265
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: But this guy was the face of coaching brilliance, you

2266
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And now he's the and and

2267
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 1: he is literally, in the span of a year, has

2268
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: turned into the face coaching failure. And I think that

2269
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: part of it is because there are so many people

2270
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: that were just waiting for any opportunity to jump on

2271
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: board and get on the bandwagon of, you know, celebrating

2272
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: his failure. And he has given them plenty of ammunition

2273
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: to that. He has given the Wolverines the raw meat.

2274
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: It's fascinating. And I don't think he's going to be

2275
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 1: coaching there at the end of the season. I don't

2276
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 1: think he makes it to the end of the year.

2277
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff, all right, Who's in who's out for the

2278
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 1: Colts in terms of practice, in terms of their injury report,

2279
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: and what they may look like on Sunday. James Boyd

2280
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: has been out of the complex and we will talk

2281
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: to him about it next. So the Colts and Cardinals

2282
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday and let's find out because there are

2283
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks from a health standpoint, not

2284
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: just for Arizona but Indianapolis as well. Joining us now

2285
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and Poor Guest line. You

2286
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 1: hear him in the Mornings with Kevin Bowen and Jeffrick.

2287
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 1: James Boyd joins us on the show.

2288
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 4: James, how are you doing good?

2289
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to get right to this point, and that

2290
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 1: is I'm just going to simply name the player and

2291
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: then you tell me the latest on what we're hearing

2292
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: in terms of availability. Okay, Kenny Moore.

2293
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 3: Doesn't look good.

2294
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 11: Did not practice for a second straight day due to

2295
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 11: the achilles injury that's kept him out the last two weeks.

2296
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So in that, well, we'll get to this in

2297
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: a minute, I guess. So put this in the back

2298
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: of your head in terms of what that means of

2299
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 1: who would be enter out. You know how they move

2300
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 1: things around, even though obviously he has been out, so

2301
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: we have some idea there Alec Pears will be the

2302
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: next guy.

2303
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 11: He was practicing today, which is a good thing, but

2304
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 11: like we saw last week, he has to get through

2305
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 11: the final stages of the concussion protocols the available come Sunday.

2306
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: Where do things stand in terms of the return of

2307
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Jones.

2308
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 11: It still sounds like he's going to be out a while.

2309
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 11: It did not sound like he was near returning according

2310
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 11: to Saint Syching. He just said he remains out and

2311
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 11: they will not open the practice one dow for him

2312
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 11: this week, So I would not be looking for him

2313
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 11: to be out there, you know, in the near.

2314
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Future when you look okay. So I'm trying to think

2315
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Grover Stewart's another one by the way, who is on

2316
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: his way back or on the men. Where do things

2317
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: stand with Stuart?

2318
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 11: I believe he's fine, he didn't practice or sorry, he's

2319
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 11: practicing full yesterday. Did not practice today, Although throughout the

2320
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 11: season Grover has received at least one rest day per

2321
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 11: week more or less, so I wouldn't be too alarmed

2322
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 11: that he didn't practice today.

2323
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Tayquin Lewis, I think misspracticed due to an illness. I

2324
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 1: assume expected to still go though, right.

2325
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, He was back out there today, so it seems

2326
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 11: like he was fine.

2327
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 1: Anybody I'm missing, I think those.

2328
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 11: Are the big ones. Oh, Braydon Smith, he was missed

2329
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 11: yesterday due to rest. Back out there today. No worries there.

2330
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: When you look James at you know, just in general,

2331
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: we'll begin with this the the the attrition, so to speak,

2332
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: and let's go back to the Kenny Moore as the

2333
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: example here. What how many guys are having to play

2334
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 1: kind of out of position? If that makes sense? In

2335
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 1: other words, I'll give Chris Ballard credit. What I'm getting

2336
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 1: at here is in the defensive backfield. It's an area

2337
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 1: that he kept saying a year ago, like, look, I

2338
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 1: just need to see my guys play. And I know

2339
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: they went out and they you know, they acquired players

2340
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 1: in binding them in ward and tried to solidify it,

2341
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Speaker 1: but they just haven't been able to get any continuity there.

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Speaker 1: Is it safe to say that there are guys in

2343
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Speaker 1: their defensive backfield that are playing opposite areas or different

2344
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 1: ways in which at the beginning of the year we

2345
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 1: envision their role to be.

2346
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Speaker 3: Not really, I.

2347
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Speaker 11: Just think that their roles have sort of expanded more

2348
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 11: than you would have liked. For example, what Treia's Ward

2349
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 11: is still their number one corner Nothing's really changed in

2350
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 11: his world. Without Jelen Jones out there, Davin Howard retired,

2351
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 11: You're looking at certain players to kind of step up

2352
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 11: in bigger roles. And for example, a guy like Makai Blackman,

2353
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Speaker 11: you made that trade for him at the beginning of

2354
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 11: the year.

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Speaker 3: You probably don't want him.

2356
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Speaker 11: Be as your starter, but he's become your starter because

2357
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 11: you know any other bodies out there, So that's something to.

2358
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Speaker 3: Keep in mind.

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Speaker 11: And then looking at this week in particular, with Mike

2360
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 11: Hilton going on injury reserve due to the shoulder injury,

2361
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 11: Cannymore look like he won't play, they probably rely on

2362
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 11: Chris Lamon's the veteran defensive back. He's going with the

2363
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 11: team for a couple of years now to step in

2364
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 11: at that slot cornerback.

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Speaker 1: You know, Nick Cross is a guy that I was

2366
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Speaker 1: thinking about this on Sunday, James, and I wanted you

2367
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Speaker 1: to expand on this thought. Oftentimes you see players that

2368
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: get drafted and they say, you know, hey may not

2369
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: have football instinct of yet, may not be a pure

2370
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 1: quote unquote football player, but as such, a dynamic athlete

2371
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 1: that can grow into the role. And I think there

2372
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of that of the thought of that

2373
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: when Nick Cross came out of Maryland and then I

2374
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: was watching on Sunday and I thought to myself, he

2375
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: has done exactly that. Like, kudos to him, because it

2376
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: seems like now he is a more instinctive player and

2377
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 1: that instinct is now matching with the athleticism to be

2378
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good safety. Your thoughts on that are

2379
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 1: am I selling short what he had when he came

2380
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 1: out of college?

2381
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Speaker 3: No, I think you're spot on there. I mean it's

2382
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 3: a gamble on him.

2383
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 11: They traded up to draft him, I believe, in the

2384
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 11: third round, and at the time, the way that Chris

2385
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 11: Baalor kind of described it was that they felt today

2386
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 11: were getting a first round talent a year early. Like

2387
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 11: had he gone back to school at Maryland, he probably

2388
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 11: would have been a first round pick the next year.

2389
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 11: So they drafted him, knew they had to develop him,

2390
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 11: and he did get off to kind of a rocky start.

2391
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 3: Started the first couple games of his career, they got benched, didn't.

2392
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,839
Speaker 11: Really play that much, but I think the position changed

2393
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 11: from free safety to strong safety as helt him a

2394
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 11: Ton Jake, and this year you're seeing him, you know,

2395
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 11: play like you said, more instinctual, closer to the line

2396
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 11: of scrimmage, close to the box, close to the accident,

2397
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 11: and they having camp Bina on the back side. This

2398
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 11: helps you out of time because you get to play

2399
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 11: a little more free, I think, because you know you

2400
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 11: have an elite you know, playmaker on your back side

2401
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 11: to help you out just in case you get to

2402
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 11: buying James.

2403
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has played so well and that has been

2404
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: the dominant storyline through five games that that's been. You know,

2405
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 1: it's exceeded all expectation. I think maybe even the Colts

2406
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 1: would tell you it exceeded their expectation. And they've taken

2407
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: care of the football and they're playing at a high level.

2408
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 1: But Daniel jones play to this point has allowed us

2409
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: to or or has caused us to overlook perhaps the

2410
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 1: slow start of who is there anybody that jumps out

2411
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: of you, either player or unit that you say, yeah,

2412
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 1: that person owes Daniel Jones a Christmas card.

2413
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a great question.

2414
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 11: Honestly, you probably want to look at the regime more

2415
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 11: than the team. I mean, does the play of Daniel Jones,

2416
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 11: if he keeps this up, does that.

2417
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 3: Mean you have earned another year?

2418
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 11: If you're Chris Ballard, if you're a Saint Spiken, if

2419
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 11: you're you know, part of that front office as group,

2420
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 11: do you feel like, Okay, if we get into the

2421
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 11: playoffs with Daniel Jones playing at such a high level,

2422
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 11: we have shown the new ownership carl Ers Gordon in company.

2423
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 3: Hey you know what, Yeah, we.

2424
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 11: Might have messed up with Anthony Richardson, but look what

2425
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 11: I got you in return. Here's what I did as

2426
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 11: plan B. So that to me is probably the bigger

2427
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 11: conversation around Daniel Jones, because everyone else on offense I

2428
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 11: feel like you can't really complain.

2429
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Downs perhaps.

2430
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 11: But even last week we saw he got more involved,

2431
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 11: and so with him playing at this level, it feels

2432
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 11: like any given Sunday you could have any different receiver

2433
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 11: sort of step up. I mean, if there's one blemish

2434
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 11: on the offense, I guess you're looking at Ady Mitchell

2435
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 11: saying why is everyone else thriving with Daniel Jones And

2436
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 11: you're the one guy who obviously has been in the

2437
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 11: doghouse last couple of weeks.

2438
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 1: If you put truth Seram and Chris Ballard. Do you

2439
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: think he would say, look, I signed Daniel Jones because

2440
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: I saw something in Daniel Jones and thought this was possible.

2441
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 1: Or do you think he would say, I signed Daniel

2442
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: Jones because I wasn't sold on Anthony Richardson and knew

2443
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: that we might have needed somebody just to hold the

2444
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: wheel for the rest of the season.

2445
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 11: Oh, that's a great question. I'm probably gonna go with

2446
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 11: the ladder just because Daniel Jones and what he had done.

2447
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 3: In New York.

2448
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 11: You know, he hadn't played good football, he hadn't played

2449
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 11: winning football. Now we're seeing, especially at this moment in time,

2450
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 11: that it certainly wasn't all his fault the failures that

2451
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 11: have gone on in New York.

2452
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 3: They have already moved on.

2453
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 11: From Russell Wilson to Jackson Darts, so.

2454
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:47,440
Speaker 3: They're going through their quarterback change. But I think anybody

2455
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 3: who tells you I saw.

2456
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 11: Something in Daniel Jones will probably be like, Okay, I

2457
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 11: can see that. But anybody telling you they saw this

2458
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 11: level of Daniel Jones, an MVP caliber player, I think

2459
02:06:57,760 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 11: that they probably be lying. I mean, he's playing exception

2460
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 11: football outside of the Rams game, has been nearly flawless,

2461
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 11: and the idea going into at least in my mind

2462
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 11: and perhaps you know, for the Colt front Austin's was

2463
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 11: that if he could just be steady and safe, we'll

2464
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 11: be fine. But the difference between what he's doing here

2465
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 11: with the Colts versus what he's doing with the Giants

2466
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:19,480
Speaker 11: and they made the playoffs in twenty twenty two is

2467
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 11: that he's really been a great passer, you know, aggressive.

2468
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 3: Throwing the ball down the field, not running a whole lot.

2469
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 3: So he feels that a new and improved player.

2470
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 1: James Boyd is our guest. He's on the Java house

2471
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 1: feeling poor guest line. Of course, you hearhim in the

2472
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 1: mornings on the morning show here on the fan. We're

2473
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 1: talking about the Colts and Cardinals, you know, the James

2474
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 1: in talking about Jones and I was talking about this earlier. Clearly,

2475
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 1: this guy's becoming a fan favorite, as he should be. Clearly,

2476
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 1: I think now unless the wheels come off, the seed

2477
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 1: is planted to the fact that he might be the

2478
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: long term quarterback here and he may get an extension

2479
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 1: and be here beyond this year. A lot of football

2480
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,200
Speaker 1: yet to be played. I realize I don't know the

2481
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 1: fans know who he is as a dude. As a guy,

2482
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that we ever know that per se.

2483
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: But you're in the locker room and you get to

2484
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: see like his weekly avails and you know, his interviews

2485
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 1: and et cetera. What does he come How does he

2486
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 1: come off? Quiet guy, quiet leader, quietly confident, shy guy

2487
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 1: one rather than is boisterous around his teammates and they

2488
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: love him. I mean, what kind of dude is Daniel Jones?

2489
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,400
Speaker 11: That is the money question and the question I've been

2490
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 11: trying to glean and get answers for because he's such

2491
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 11: a reserved personality, especially in media settings. But from what

2492
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 11: I've been able to gather from his teammates and just

2493
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 11: from watching him a little bit, he seems like he's

2494
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 11: very down to earth, you know, one of the guys.

2495
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 11: But that switch gets slipped as soon as they get

2496
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 11: into the more serious side of football. And so if

2497
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 11: you ask any of the linemen, the wide receivers and

2498
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 11: tight ends, they're all like, yeah, he is as easy

2499
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 11: going as they come. But when it comes to the aim,

2500
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 11: he can be not annoying, but he can be very

2501
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 11: persistent and meticulous. You know, you got Doman Taylor telling us, look, man,

2502
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:09,160
Speaker 11: I can be walking in, you know, to the facility

2503
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 11: about the grab breakfast and he's telling me, hey, did

2504
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 11: you see that messages us into about this check on

2505
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 11: this play or this block I want you to make

2506
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 11: on this play. And you got Michael Pittman Jr. Saying Hey,

2507
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 11: the guy's always late to our Thursday dinners which is

2508
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 11: tonight because he's watching the film. And I did get

2509
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 11: a chance to ask Daniel Jones about that this week,

2510
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 11: and I got a real smile out of him, I

2511
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 11: believe because he kind of laughed at all. It was like, look, man,

2512
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 11: I think these guys woul much rather me know what

2513
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 11: I'm looking at on Sundays versus being on time for

2514
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:38,840
Speaker 11: dinner on Thursdays. So the guys really appreciate him, they

2515
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,920
Speaker 11: love him, But it sounds like that competitive nature comes

2516
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 11: out and how detailed he is.

2517
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 3: Not a big screamer, raw ra guy. But she'll know

2518
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 3: how much he cares because he's.

2519
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 11: On you all the time about the little minute details

2520
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:53,600
Speaker 11: that often decide winning and losing in the NFL.

2521
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: James, I haven't pinpointed which one it is yet, but

2522
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 1: to me, Daniel Jones looks like some sort of a

2523
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 1: cross between the animal character from We or the little

2524
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 1: guy in the Kroger commercials. I can't figure out which

2525
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 1: one it is yet, striving me crazy. When you figured

2526
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 1: it out, you let me know, all right, I.

2527
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 3: Will, I will. He's certainly somebody who around here.

2528
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 11: You know he's coming a fan favorite, So mighty neat

2529
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 11: a couple of fatheads or something.

2530
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:16,400
Speaker 3: That's right around the city up.

2531
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,720
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, James, we'll be listening tomorrow seven

2532
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. Appreciate the time.

2533
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 3: All right, you have a good one.

2534
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 1: H James Boyd joining us on the Java House Peel

2535
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 1: and Port guest line. JMV is in. He is back.

2536
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Speaker 1: I should say he is on remote?

2537
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Speaker 4: Is he not?

2538
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 7: Eddie?

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2544
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Speaker 1: he's got cooking. We'll do it next. Hey, Jake, this

2545
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: from Michael. My uncle took me to see several blue

2546
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:53,080
Speaker 1: Jays games in their inaugural season. I saw the first

2547
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 1: ever Grand Slam for the Blue Jays. My uncle's construction

2548
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 1: company later helped build the SkyDome. Also decided not to

2549
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 1: go to a game once against the Angels based on

2550
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: the forecast, and that was the day that Elvis died.

2551
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:07,240
Speaker 1: I had my first ever chocolate chip dip ice cream

2552
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 1: cone from Dairy Queen that day. Go Blue Jays from

2553
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 1: Michael Heck, yeah, I told you. Lifelong Blue Jays fan.

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Speaker 1: I watched almost three games this year, but I'm enjoying

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Speaker 1: the postseason with them, and it was fun to see

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Speaker 1: them defeat the New York Yankees. J ANDB is back

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Speaker 1: in the mix. He is at I believe the all

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Speaker 1: Imporium in Greenwood, as he joins us now for the crossover,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by the good guys at Love Heating

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Speaker 1: and Air John and Little Hermanacky Wings.

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Speaker 6: I assume, oh, buddy, this is a great place. All

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Speaker 6: ales are great, but Kissing Greenwood is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Who's your favorite all time Blue Jay boyd Moseby, That's nice.

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Speaker 1: Mine would be I'm gonna get Rance Mullenicks. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: Rance Moullinnicks. Rance Moullinicks Kelly Grub oddly enough both played third.

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Speaker 4: George Bell, See Barfield.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Barfield, Yep, Dave Steve.

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Speaker 6: That would be like the top five right there for

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Speaker 6: me and just some of the greatest uniforms of all

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Speaker 6: time and played. Really that Exhibition Stadium may have been

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Speaker 6: the crappiest stadium before Skydom ever created.

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Speaker 4: Right there too, sure.

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Speaker 1: Was Exhibition Stadium. It's interesting, John, because IndyCar when they

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Speaker 1: do their race every year in Toronto, which this year

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Speaker 1: is going to be moved in terms of the location,

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Speaker 1: but the where they do that race. If you watch

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Speaker 1: the IndyCar Race, so it's at Exhibition Place, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of like their fairgrounds. Right. So one year I'm

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Speaker 1: there and I'm like, I wonder where this has to

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Speaker 1: be where Exhibition Stadium was, And I looked down literally

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Speaker 1: like ten feet away from me, and right there in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a parking lot. Next to there was

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Speaker 1: a guy that was actually had a little vending machine

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Speaker 1: making snow cones, and right next to it, boom, right there,

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Speaker 1: that's where home plate was. And then they actually have

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Speaker 1: each of the different you know, here's first base, second base,

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Speaker 1: third base, but right there by Ontario Place. And yes,

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Speaker 1: it was a total dump. It was a complete show

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Speaker 1: where Ernie Wit used to catch Yeah, right behind the

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Speaker 1: home play, the home play thing, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Ernie Ernie Wit was awesome.

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Speaker 6: But nah, I agree, and I like I like Vlad

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Speaker 6: Guerrero Junior. And I like it because there's so many

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Speaker 6: legacy names on that squad too, some of which aren't

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Speaker 6: playing right now, but they are legacy names on there.

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Speaker 6: That's that's kind of cool as well. With that Blue

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Speaker 6: Jay team, they're fun to watch because they're heavy offense.

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Speaker 4: Man, they are absolutely rake. They rake, they.

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Speaker 1: Do do that. But you know, typically when teams are

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Speaker 1: like that, they get into the postseason and then they

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Speaker 1: have a round where the bats goes silent and it

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Speaker 1: ends as quickly as it was fun to watch, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder.

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Speaker 6: I mean they go both they basically go pitching by committee.

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Speaker 6: I mean they pitch the entire game, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean with everybody you kind of want under with

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Speaker 6: a team like the Dodgers, for example, if that's who

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Speaker 6: they end up getting, maybe if that's going to work out.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I would agree, they're fun as heck to watch.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking about this because this is a question

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Speaker 6: for you. I was listing all my way back from

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Speaker 6: GC the other day and I got to thinking, Jake,

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Speaker 6: what's the most overplayed song of all time?

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Speaker 4: Most overplayed?

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Speaker 6: I mean we got the worst and the best, And

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Speaker 6: what's the most overplayed on the radio song of all time?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Got anything?

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Speaker 1: Now, when you say overplayed, you just mean you mean overrated,

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Speaker 1: or just like it's the one that has been.

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Speaker 4: I mean played.

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Speaker 6: We have played the most and maybe because of that,

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Speaker 6: you love it deep down inside me? You go, damn again,

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Speaker 6: they're playing that again. Got to hear that again? And

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Speaker 6: you've done that now for decades. Is there a song

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Speaker 6: that stands out?

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this shook me all night long,

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Speaker 1: but ACDC comes to mind.

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Speaker 6: That he should because it's played all the time and

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Speaker 6: basically every single format seems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there has to be one. Do you have one

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Speaker 1: in mind? I do I have one in mind. What

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Speaker 1: year did it come out?

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Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy six? I think.

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Speaker 1: Seeing the year, boys, it's multi decade and I think

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Speaker 1: it charted in at least two, if not three, different

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Speaker 1: decades too.

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Speaker 6: And when you think about it, when you then you'll go, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Speaker 4: And it's that's it.

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Speaker 6: And it's about nine minutes long, which is not it's

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Speaker 6: five and a half minutes long. But it takes forever

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Speaker 6: and not like any great deal. But whenever you hear it,

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Speaker 6: you go, man, that again, is like when somebody requested

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Speaker 6: on Saturday night, I go, oh, man, really again?

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's way up there. Man. I've always

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Speaker 1: wondered this what what what song? And there's various answers

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Speaker 1: that what song do you believe has been played on

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Speaker 1: American radio more than any other in history American more

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Speaker 1: than any bohemian to be up there, right, it.

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Speaker 6: Would probably it would probably qualify. I mean, then if

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Speaker 6: you if you're gonna go multi decade, which i'm you'd

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Speaker 6: have to go back to the sixties, where what let

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Speaker 6: it be by the Beatles nineteen seven Hotel California. Hotel

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Speaker 6: California is right there in a similar category. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I just I was thinking, if if it's to fit

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Speaker 6: your criteria, that means it probably had to have played

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Speaker 6: in another decade as well, So probably in the sixties.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing John that like Bohemian Rhapsody. If

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Speaker 1: it the thing that comes. The key there is if

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Speaker 1: it gets into a movie and then is all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden like relaunched and reintroduced and then charts the

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Speaker 1: second lace, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly why I think it.

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Speaker 6: I know it charted in the seventies, it may have

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Speaker 6: in the eighties, and I think it did come back

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Speaker 6: with Wayne's World, no question in ninety two.

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Speaker 1: No question, no question about it. All right, what's lined

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Speaker 1: up on the Big Show today?

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Speaker 6: We're going to talk about who's starting for the Cardinals Sunday,

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Speaker 6: Kelly Stoffern.

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Speaker 4: We're excited about that to see Kelly still for play.

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Speaker 4: Is the stuffer a Stofer? Remember their former quarterback? I

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Speaker 4: was thinking of Ultra, But that's those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Neil Lomax is gonna come off the bench, right.

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Speaker 6: Neil Lomax will be better than Jacoby Brissette right now.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't tell you that, we don't be nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty four, Neil. I mean, right now, I think you would.

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Speaker 6: I think Jim Jim Hart would roll out there and

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Speaker 6: look better than Jacoby Brissette right now. I bet you

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Speaker 6: that's exactly right. Who was who is the quarterback in

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Speaker 6: the Tom Cruise movie. You know it was throwing to Dwell,

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Speaker 6: Show me, show me? Yeah, who was throwing to rod Tidwell?

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Speaker 1: Who was that boy? That's a good question. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: I'm googling it. Jerry McGuire, quarterback, Jerry McGuire. Quar're back.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here. That's Rick Johnson Johnson. There's a minor

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Speaker 1: role for a real life former NFL quarterback Rick Johnson.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's yeah, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: the name of the character though.

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Speaker 4: I think Rick Johnson would be better than Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. It actually says in here would

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Speaker 1: be better than Jacoby Brissett. That's one of the things

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Speaker 1: that's listening, right.

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Speaker 4: That's good for the colts.

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Speaker 6: Good for the colts because that one thing, I mean,

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Speaker 6: Murray's not gonna be able to run around to do

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Speaker 6: anything with a sore Sergeant Hulka. Apparently a lot of

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Speaker 6: Sergeant halk is getting injured out there too, that is correct.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 6: McConnell's going to miss at least from what Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 6: said the day of month.

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Speaker 4: So that's why campaign is here.

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Speaker 6: I like campaign man, but his his jumpers broke cast jumper.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why jump Jacoby cat jumper.

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Speaker 6: But I do like him, and I Murray state, I

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Speaker 6: kind of like that mid major flavor he's always brought

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Speaker 6: to the NBA.

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Speaker 4: But man, hurry up and get back TJ.

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Speaker 6: McConnell, because that juice is necessary for this group.

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Speaker 1: Jason. I do think there's an element of with McConnell,

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Speaker 1: because as you are a year away from the return

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Speaker 1: of Halliburton and you want to get as much replicated

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Speaker 1: of what you had, it's not necessarily bad to have

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Speaker 1: to not put additional miles on that. And I know

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Speaker 1: that sounds crazy because you'd rather have him out there

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Speaker 1: than not. I get it, No, but no, I grow

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 6: Certainly wait until you wait until he's healthy, and then

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Speaker 6: wait a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit longer because he corrects in his thirties right now,

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Speaker 1: that would exactly correct. Yes, I agree, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: John's up next. We'll throw it out to him and

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Speaker 1: eleen porium and green with plenty of time for you

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Speaker 1: to get down and enjoy a cold one. We will

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Speaker 1: be back with you at noon tomorrow. And I thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to the quarying company,